No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 462: Men's Olympic Golf Recap

Episode Date: August 2, 2021

We recap a wild weekend of Olympic Golf in Tokyo, discussing what this win means for Xander, Rory Sabbatini's wild route to a silver medal, C.T. Pan, South Korean military service, golf in the Olympics in general, Rory and JT's comments, format changes, and a lot more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes. That is better than most. That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up Podcast coming to you live from what always are we up against here, Big Randy? Oh God, I don't know. We're the Kingsley Club here in Michigan. We are filming season seven of Taurusaw, solid here, Big Randy to my right.

Hello, Mr. Chris. Thanks for having me on your show tonight. TC, a big pour of wine across the table. Got a baby super tusk in front of us. Neil is here as well. Nice screen in porch. Haven't been in one of the wilds. Love a screen in porch.

Are we, I'm gonna bounce this off you guys to start. I feel a little bit like Rory right now. You know, he's had some comments this week about, you know, he has said some things about the Olivia It's just a pure scheduling in perfect nature of this job and we were unable to and I'm wondering if anyone else has the same FOMO. Pure Michigan, if you will. Yes. Yeah, no, I watched, I caught some of it last night. There were a lot of guys involved all the way down to the stretch. I think the biggest point of reference or point of, you know, just like valuable intel

is the fact that there was more things to play for or there were more things to play for than first place That is one of many takeaways. I think I have is the the consensus seem to be that the seven-way playoff from bronze Which is absolutely absurd it looked like a a Monday qualifier or a US open qualifier Seven-way playoff for bronze was probably the most exciting part of a one shot victory and a final round 61 from Roy 17. You need to win the silver medal for Slovakia, which we can talk about. We can talk about all that, but I think let's start with Zander, who is the gold medal winner.

Randy, does this change anything, for Zander? You are Mr. You got to win every tournament or you're dead to me guy. Does this change anything for Zander? No, not really. I mean, what'd you say? Strength of field was a little less than the 3M? A little bit better than the 3M, yeah. But I will say it's kind of a cheap,

that's an easily digestible little stat to rip on the Olympic field, but a lot of it has to do with just volume and it only being 60 guys. Sure. And the way the strength of field is calculated is the volume of players that are qualified for it, et cetera. But yes, the way the strength of field is calculated is the volume of players that are qualified for it, et cetera.

But yes, the way the official world golf ranking strength of field works, that's about what it equal. It's good. It's a nice win. It's not a major. Yeah. I don't know what, you know, it's probably better for him that he won it than giving it away, but I don't know. It doesn't move the needle as far as like his PGA career, right?

It's a nice footnote in history now and he'll always have the gold medal, which is really, really cool. But I don't, he's got a lot to prove on tour to match his ability. He's got some winning to do, I guess is what I'll also say that I think that the manner in which you won. He basically shot even par on his last 10 holes. Bogged 14, which was a par five. It wasn't exactly resounding, right? He didn't he didn't finish through the line.

It was a little shaky there on 18 to needing to get up and down from. I don't know what the yardage was. But he did it. He did it. He did it. You have been on the Xander block here for a little while in terms of needing to see more out of him. Does this help? Not so much more out of him.

I find myself rooting for him. He feels like a very sincere guy. I'd like to see him win a major. I think that him coming up short in majors is tough. He deserves some criticism for that. I would say, you know, this probably lead to him winning a FedEx cup and getting tons of hype. Get ahead on this block, you're calling me really do.

I think that he just seems to do really well in big money events that are not majors. And that's great for him. I also, sample size, right? Yeah, I would also argue we like to give Justin Rose trouble for winning the gold medal. Team Rose. And using that as something the hang is had on,

I think you got a lot of mileage out of that, but we do remember it. It's one of the first things you think of when you think of Justin Rose. Well, it's once every four years. So there is a... They force it every time he's on the screen, they say gold medal winner.

And that's the only like a huge downside of the Olympic medals is every time you hear Zander, Roy Sebateini or CT Pan's name, they're going to front it with and metal winner blah, blah, blah. That's that's something I have an issue with. But you could see I could go both ways with that though. I think winning a medal in the Olympics is a special thing for any athlete is probably an awesome experience. And I would argue to the strength of field debate flying over to Japan, you know, not being part of the regular ebb and flow of the PGA

tour season. Like there's a, you know, there's, I don't say adversity to overcome there, but that's a challenge, right? Showing up on the other side of the world and playing well, like hats off to Xander for getting it done. Especially as we're about to lead into, I know we make fun of it a lot, but FedExCub, like everybody, if you talk to guys on tour, everybody, their goals are all centered around majors

and the FedExCub much more so than you would think, because that's how they're bonnest and that's what the tours laid out in front of them, as far as how they're making a bunch of extra money and what their qualifications are for success. And I think it was Xander. I mean, shit, for how much emphasis the tour is placed on the Olympics between Ty Vota and just everything

that they've put around, like all the support that they put around the Olympics the last, I guess, five years now or seven years leading into Brazil. I think Xander should get some FedEx cup points for this. It would probably be a massive infringement upon all the Olympics, whatever the amateur bullshit with the Olympics is, it's the total joke at this point, right, Randy? Let's try to tee you up, baby.

All you, I don't know if I want to take that bait right now. Before we take that bait, I must admit, I was very excited to talk Olympics and everything, because I totally forgot to do the opening read, which, let's go there now. Suspiciously does not Includes Andrew thanks to what TC just mentioned in the very protective sponsorship rules around

You know sponsors in the Olympics so there was a plenty of drama on golf courses around the country around the world this week One there was absolutely no drama Brooklawn Country Club in Fairfield, Connecticut That was the site of the US Senior Women's Open Championship. There's no drama because the goat, Anika Sorenstam ran away with things on Sunday taking home her first senior major to go with. How many regular majors does she have? What was you guys?

Oh, she's got nine. Yes, nine. I think that's right because in our Nelly discussion, I said she's gonna win 11. She has one less than Nelly. She has 10. She has 10. Okay. That's right. That's right. I knew it was right around there. We definitely looked that up recently. Yes. Eight stroke beat down on her nearest competitor took a took a page out of John Ram's book winning a USGA event with an epic speed driver. Apex Irons, a couple

jaws wedges at Cromesoft, Exgolfball, and Odyssey White Hot OG Rossi putter. And if you're scoring at home, that is the fourth major win for the epic driver jaws wedges a chrome soft X golf ball and Odyssey white hot OG Rossi putter and fear scoring at home. That is the fourth major win for the epic driver this year. Phil, Ron, a senior men's major and now onica also epic drivers in the hands of the winners of a few other significant golf events this weekend. Of course, referring to the European tour and the LPGA tour events for those details on the clubs in onicaah's bag head over to CalabayGolf.com slash Onikah that's a deep dive on Onikah's equipment at CalabayGolf.com slash Onikah. Neil Onikah's got a similar setup to you.

She does. You know what? There may be a similar type of winner here at Taurusus season seven. Very well could be. Likely will have Calabay in the bag. No spoilers. Okay. They got to wait until October for that.

A good chance. They were. A good, very good chance. Where were good very good chance Where were we because I lost track? I was trying to T. Randy up to shit on the IOC T.C. He was just throwing He's like me at me Like I was some type of Randy's T.J. Ragnar. Yeah, the lion cage. I'm sorry. Where do you want to go? What do you think of Zander? Let me let me turn the question on the host. What do you think this does for Zander? Do you think it gives them more confidence in majors? Do you think it changes how we think of his career? I

place this win for us. It's not nothing. I will say that. I think it is, it's not a major. It is a limited field event. There are only four people from the great, the strongest golf country in the world that are allowed to play in it. A lot of, it's not a strong field, right? But it is something that everyone that goes there is trying desperately, desperately hard to win. So it's a big limited field win is what it is,

but it's different than a lot of other limited field wins and that it's not the top 50 players in the world. Do you think Rory was trying desperately to win? I think by the end of it, I think he was... I think once he got there, he was. It seemed like it. I think that was a big theme of the whole week, right? It was just tracking the scores throughout.

It was a lot of slow starts from guys. I think the winner was, Xander was 18 under. But it was kind of a race to, I think there was a stepstruck, a shot seven or eight under in the first round and then some guys kind of you know shooting around even par First round and kind of starting starting slow and then kind of digging themselves a hole and then furiously fighting back And I'm not sure if some of that's just jet lag or lack of enthusiasm from the start with no fans and all that but But, you know, it seemed like, too,

that it was a pretty good diversity of players in the leaderboard. Which is great. I mean, I did not. I think maybe that's what 2016, walking away from that, was kind of like, all right, Justin Rose, Henry Stenson, Matt Koocher on the podium. Like, that's three stalwarts, right? I mean, that's three guys.

Well, three guys with very different styles of games. Very different styles, but like, I didn't feel anything in particular. Like when I watch WGC's and stuff, I want to see CT Pan and Roy Sabatini do something crazy and shake up like the normal flow of those things. And so in that regard, seeing Roy Sabatini and CT Pan on the podium is like, that's a cool thing for golf. I'd say, I mean, that makes me feel better than, you know,

I don't know, Paul Casey up there or someone that I don't I don't know unless you have ties to Sabatini or CTPam, but like that's the biggest moment of their careers or Mito Pereira for sure. He was you know, he was Working his ass off to get up there, but Chilean trying to you know kind of Between him and walking Nein Neiman, like, Chileans had a great thing. But I think that's where I get back to with Olympic golf is I wish there was, I wish there were some sort of team element.

Oh, yeah. Right. Because I think between Carlos Ortiz and Abe Answer playing well, Joaquin, Mito Pereira playing well, there's just, there's a certain sense of, of nationalism that's present and all these other events that I think it would just be additive for golf. And I don't want to be the guy winging about the format or whatnot. We'll do that later.

Yeah, but I think, you know, overall, it's a credit to both the setup and the golf course. And it was three radically different players playing well. And also like CZPAN, I think it's interesting. I think he played under Taiwan or Chinese Taipei for the Olympics. But he's like, it's a very different way that the Olympics recognizes him nationally versus the way that he's recognized by the PGA tour nationally. I thought they had to be the same.

They're not the same. Well, no, it's,'s it's it's weird where How he like what you call Taiwan basically right oh gosh. Yeah. Yes That's very fraught politics. That might be a different meal. What are your what are your feelings on the the Taiwan situation? That's a rainy. That's a great question. We'll tackle that on this week's trap. Yeah, we will Yeah, flip over the trap draw for that answer. I will say I am a big fan of the Olympics in general and I Maybe it's it was cheap laughs or whatever, but I read in the quotes from JT of like, you know I was sitting with Greg popovich and just being in the Olympic village and having lunch with You know some of the guys on the USA basketball team.

It feels like in this kind of goes to the Rory situation, all Roy is not happy to be there. I feel like once they show up and see how important this is to every apex of every other sport, it feels like that energy was kind of driving a lot of these guys to play well and to be happy they had the experience. I think a lot of things are out of the golfers' hand in terms of maybe why we don't get super-amped about the Olympics. One being the format for fans, if you are a golf format,

we just watched four weeks, we watched every week this year of four rounds of 72-Hull stroke play, right? And it's a part of a PGA tour schedule. There's not really a break for it. There's a event last week and there's an event next week. There's not enough, you know, an Olympic period, right? It is a spot on the calendar. That's less than ideal.

It's tough. Like you don't try to like peak for the Olympics. A lot of people, at least Americans in particular. Some people from other countries have skipped other events to try to peak for the Olympics. And I also just want to say, yes, they don't play for any money. But what is a gold medal worth?

What's a gold medal worth, right? I mean, it is not zero. I would say it's in the tens of millions of dollars. Certainly in sponsorships. In other countries. Yeah, in other countries. One other sports. More so, other versions of one other sports. More so do you think do you think that applies to golf?

I would say Xander. Xander that's going to be worth $10 million plus to Xander. I think it's already. Yeah. I think it's already built in a little bit to golf to wear less so than because all these other sports, the Olympics move the needle. Maybe maybe not. I mean, some of the X games sports or whatnot, but like, you know, otherwise you've got the Olympics is the deal maybe maybe not I mean some of the X games sports or whatnot but like you know otherwise you've got the Olympics is the deal they're not getting they'll get bonuses for world championships or world records but

the Olympics is the deal the all their bonuses are predicated upon that so I don't think it's quite to the same level with golf it's not as like swimming now an additive thing it's it would be like winning a, you know, winning a tournament or winning, you know, and really I'm not sure if they can even, if it's, if it's too nascent to even build that into an endorsement deal at this point where is an Olympic medal built in the same way as a PGA tour win. I'm saying going forward, negotiating sponsorship deals, it's changed once you're a gold medal winner. Well, it would be interesting to look at before and after Justin Rose's gold medal. Because now that you say that, it's like, may have elevated him. Yes, he's one of US Open and 9, 10 events, I think. But that puts him in a different, like you said, it's something that is attached to his

name that you hear. It's on the Cliff Notes for the Telecast every week. For sure. is attached to his name that you hear, you know, it's on the cliff notes for the telecast every week. The guy that I look at is CT Pan. Like he's, I mean, he's already a big deal over there, but I think he would be, that's a massive jump for him, right? It's for his notoriety. And um, biggest thing, I think on my end, is just the fact that there's, that Brooks, like you would think that playing in the Olympics would be catnip Brooks right? I know he's a little the real at up and everything But he like Brooks having like taking the opportunity to to have lunch with Kevin Durant or

you know with the with the Sprinters or you know Caleb Dressel or somebody like that, you know, he's he would be peacocking out there acting like he's, quote unquote, middle linebacker guy, when in actuality, and maybe he's just nicked up and it just wasn't the right time for you to fall. I think this might be change things going forward for the Olympics.

I think JT and Roy's comments alone, I know Paul Casey had similar comments, I don't think his comments care the same way does those two other guys, but I think with Paris, it's gonna be easier. I think in general to get to and make that a part of your travel schedule. Maybe you stay after the Open Championship and don't go back over back to the States

if it does fall within this two weeks apart or whatever. I think this was a memorable, memorable Olympics for golf and I think that it potentially does change things. I know personally, I've been very apathetic about the Olympics and I read Aiman Lynch's article today and it kinda just hammered home how I feel about it. And he was basically like, yeah, if you are a big time golf fan

and then you're apathetic about it, like that's fine, but don't pretend like that is like that for the rest of the world, right? I mean, it's very fair to say you're not excited about it, but at the same time, maybe this isn't for you. Maybe this isn't about you. Well, we will. Yeah.

And we were talking about this a few days ago, you know, in the van. I think I saw as like wide, you know, four rounds, 72-hole stroke play. And it's, I think it's important to establish why that is. It's the Olympic Committee goes to the sport, the new sport they want to have and they say, how do you decide who's the, how do you decide the best in your sport? That's what it is for golf.

I would ask you if you're the Olympic Committee and you're bringing- Three on three basketball. For instance, right. Because I've had a massive problem with three basketball. Here's a three on three basketball. I'm trying to, no, the reason I bring that up, I don't agree with it.

Personally, I'd love to see a two-man team match play, but I'm a golf fan, so I watch golf every week. I'm just trying to present the other side of the argument of why to do the best test for. Yeah, how do you establish the best in the world? And maybe golf is just unique because they do that every single week, but You know, but then in swimming they've got like mixed relays and stuff, you know So that's why the argument doesn't hold on but swimming's been around forever They're they're evolving, you know, they're trying some new things and if 30 40 years from now

Hopefully golf gets that same point where you know, maybe they can're trying some new things. And if 30, 40 years from now, hopefully golf gets that same point where, you know, maybe they can evolve, try some new things. It's certainly like a mixed competition and golf makes a ton of sense. So hopefully, I'm with you. Like, I hope golf will get there where, you know, they can try new things and adjust format.

I guess I would add formats. I was trying to understand why they did what they did. And that does make sense to me. Even if I don't like it, I get it. Is what I'm getting. I would also assume too that if they were to do an NCAA style format, it would take up more days. And you're basically taking, you know, keeping the best players in the world off the schedule

for, but looking at the dates for Paris in 2024 for LA in 2028, there it's it's kind of I think I think some of the some of the fatigue or the lack of excitement from us is where it falls on the golf schedule. Sure. On the back end of major season, it's you know, everybody's kind of checked out a little bit on on golf or it's going on summer vacation and all that and it's going to summer vacation and all that. And it's going to be the exact same dates, the next two go rounds.

That's it. That's that's totally where I'm at with that is like, this is something, this isn't for us necessarily. I think it can be enjoyed by us, but it's totally, it's a golf being in the Olympics does a lot of things for golf that we probably don't pay that much attention to and comb through, right? Which is like, and Aiman brought this up in his article too of like, funds are allocated to Olympic sports by, you know, by Olympic.

Olympic committees and I don't pretend to know how all that stuff works. But like, if I, you know, we roll our eyes at a lot of grow the game stuff because almost everyone that tells you grow the game is trying to do that so they can make money off of adding golfers to the game. Especially Randy. Randy especially. Well, you guys should be thanking me for my courageous strength, the game position. But if we also want the game to be more available to more people of different backgrounds and

everything like that, like being in the Olympics would support that. It takes it from being, you know, a country club sport to potentially, you know, getting more and more young people out on the, which we all would agree is a great thing for golf. So again, in that regard, it's serving a purpose that's larger than just like, hey, dance for me guys. Like, entertainment. It's next week, the, it's next week.

Yeah. Okay, so it's so it's basically, they could essentially move the PGA tour schedule. You know, like it doesn't jive with PGA tour schedule because they want to avoid football and they want to end. They want to end before the NFL starts. They want to end the tour championship on Labor Day weekend, where if you wanted to do that kind of team competition and make it more of a six day thing and make you, you know, three or four rounds of stroke play, award an individual winner, and then the top, let's

say the top eight teams, the top eight countries advanced to team competition, and then that's a match play thing. But like, how freaking cool would that be if you had Mexico and, you know, you had a banter going up against Xander or, you know, Moracal or somebody like that, or, you know, like Slovakia. I mean, who else is on the slow, I don't even think they had anybody else in there, but it would just change the calculus a little bit

because a little bit of it does feel like a WGC where you've got, you've got certain guys that have simply gotten in just, you know, due to being, you know, 180th in the world. But from a different certain country. Do you think they need professional golfers to play Olympic gold? I do. Yeah. I don't think, yeah, I don't think Amiters make it a better competition or more interesting competition. Like think about Olympic baseball,

right? You know, where like, nobody gives a shit. Accurate. Right. So I just have a, I have like a personal litmus test where like if the Olympic, if an Olympic gold medal is not and sports, but it's all it. I don't think it's I don't think it's an either or that's where I'm net out. Brandy I'm like, same way like when I watch Olympic golf, I don't know what I'm watching. I don't consider it to be the test of golf like the greatest honor in golf is to win the Olympic gold. This is the pinnacle of our sport. This is the most important event like we do so many other things. We just got a bigger group of the best players in the world together for a same exact format tournament two weeks ago that was way more interesting to me, right? So that's where I, again, like,

Aiman kind of changed my mind on this where it's like, hey, this is like, this is something different. I would argue though, like I like Olympic basketball. That's not the pinnacle for a basketball player, but that's where the team thing comes in is that I like it because you see the best players You know in the US is specifically for us then playing together where it's like the only other time you see that is like an all-star game

Right, but this is a serious competition. I think the the difference here is that an end of like Give me another sport in the Olympics. It's an individual competition. It's not the pinnacle That's like that's a pretty elevate like if you know joke of it's not that competition that's not the pinnacle. Timus? Yeah. That's exciting. That's a pretty elevate, like, you know, joke of it's not they're breaking his racket. It feels similar to tennis to me though. Yeah, okay. But those guys still, and he's still, okay, that's fair.

He's coming off a very hard major season with the US Open still to come, and he's out, you know, he flew over, he's out there grinding. For sure, and that's the same with the golfers too, I feel like, you know, some skip, but like at the same time, it's not, it's not, it's not the panic. Like Wimbledon would be the penalty. Totally. Yeah.

Yeah. But by the same time again, I just go back to, all right, what's the intent of this? The intent of this is to grow the game. If you really, really want to grow the game, who are the dominant golfers? They're from the US, they're from England, Australia. Those guys, it's like, you want to grow the game? Who are the dominant golfers? They're from the US, they're from England, Australia. Those guys, you want to grow the game, establish upsets and underdogs and all that

in a way that it's predicated upon teamwork and inspire some nationalities, like rooting interest, right? It's like, hey, remember when, and as much as we, and we'll get to Rory, Sabotini, but like, as much as we clown on Rory, Sabotini for the whole, like, Slovakian thing, like, at some point, like, this fucking cool. Oh, it was important to him to play in the Olympics,

and he wasn't gonna get through on South Africa, so he took up citizenship in another country, and you got a problem with that, Randy? No, no, I don't have a problem with that. I want to bring it back real real quick to who from the US qualified, but chose not to go. DJ. DJ Brooks. DJ and Bruce. And Cantley. Well, they can't lay was a late offer after Bryce and tested positive. Okay. So I think he had already said no, even prior. I guess what I'm going with that is like the dream teams

a great example of a really cool team, but they literally had the best players in the world. And I feel like we're getting to a point where they don't, they might not anymore like I would argue that this year. And that's what I mean is like if we're not gonna send the absolute best players, then let's make it an amateur event. You know, like in the 70s that the USA Russia played and that's one of the most memorable gold medal basketball games the US got robbed

and it's in its college senior. You know, it's an amateur team. Yeah, I think what Randy's maybe suggesting is that the rest of the world sends their professionals out of the US sends their amateurs. I just think I think Olympic golf could be like a real feather in the cap of an amateur career Whereas I think it falls a little short for for established pros. How much did basketball? I'm here in that take how much did pros playing basketball in the Olympics change the game of basketball though forever Like the downstream effect decades after that of the 92 dream team how much stronger do the international teams get? Yeah, that international basketball programs and things like that. So if we are talking about making golf in more global sport and, you know, in other countries, not always look, view things through the

lens of the U.S. Like there are Olympic programs that John Rom came out of the Olympic program in Spain. Like he was, I don't know exactly how it works, but essentially like a sponsored athlete through the Olympic program in Spain. And like he's become the number one player in the world. That's awesome. That the argument you're making is kind of why I think the team game in the Olympics would be awesome. Like I would watch Cam Smith and Mark Leishman.

Yeah. Like that's, or Norway like Christopher Ventura and, and, uh, Holland. I think something like that. I give set of that feels like, I think for sure, I think feels like it, like you're representing your country with someone else. It's just I guess it's tough when I agree with you on the individual sport if it's not the apex. It's hard for me to get excited about it if it's not the apex of your sport. I think if it's hard for the best players to not get excited about it then you know. I think having four guys on each team, or like, perhaps you have two teams

from some of the bigger countries, like US or, you know, even Japan, but there are two teams of two, whereas I think if you did a four, you know, like, kind of like beach volleyball, right? You got multiple teams from the US, you know, like I think if you did that, whereas I think if you went for deep on a single team, you would probably go back to limiting it to the teams with depth and the teams with guys.

I think if you have two... You could have upsets to in those two. Yeah, really, really good player from one country and a young up-and-comer that's basically tied at the hip to that guy and they say, hey, we're gonna, you know, you, you, you, Sebastian Munios and, and Vegas, or, or, I don't even think, I think Vegas is, Venice, Waylon, Munios is Colombian, but, but like, you know, figure out, all right, you know, Camilo Vijaygas and somebody, and really tie those two together and you get, you know, you get something that's kind of weird, but also fun at the same time.

You get better storylines, do you? Yeah. Of like all those guys are playing together. All surely Olympics to me strike me as somebody is competing against somebody else. And when it's a stroke play event, it feels like everybody's competing on their own against the course. That's what I like that as well. And also, I mean, the golf course was very easy. I mean, the scores were very low. And that's the things.

I don't know if it was a special test on like the hardest golf course or, you know, and venues matter and things like this. And this was very vanilla golf course. That's where I get like France, I can play at Lake golf, and ask you know, or I think LA they're gonna play at Riviera. Yeah.

So that works, but then again, on some level, you don't wanna bring these guys in off the road and then they've got a WGC next week and beat the shit out of it this week because then you're gonna scare certain guys off as well. Before we get any further in this, I get a lot of questions I wanna ask you guys. We even put a lot of mileage on tires this week.

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adding formats, but I see a great opportunity. And once you're transitioning from the men's week to the women's week, having a mixed event of some kind in the middle. You have so many different swimming events. I know this is all different, but like it just seems wild that you have this many athletes competing for three medals and you know when you have so many opportunities in other sports. And you have four years to plan it out and maybe work with the governing bodies to say to work the calendar where they could do two weeks in a row.

Like maybe the year the PGA tour, maybe in 2024 the PGA tour doesn't have the 3M open or the, you know what I mean? Like, and it's not like JT is playing the 3M. Right. Or there's not a WGC, the week after. Right? Where it's a, no offense to the 3M,

but it's a 3M and a, know a barbersaw or whatever like it there could be a they could work on that because they have time to plan for it is what I'm getting at. Yeah I think everybody would like to see that it's and then we've got what we got 2032 they just awarded that to Brisbane. Yeah yeah Australia I think. There's president you know like a winter Olympics the NHL has worked with the Olympic committee. They've they've taken like a two week pause in their season. It is certainly, I think, you know, we covered the team aspect and and there's certainly no reason why you can't have a, uh, co-ed team comp question for you guys.

And even if it's 36 holes, right? Like, I don't know if it has to be 72.? Like, I don't know if it has to be 72 holes for everything. I don't understand why it has to be 72. And there's, you know, other competitors go to the Olympics and they do like qualifying. They have semi-finals. They do things like that. Like a cut would make sense, right?

Or something like you start, so and so starts is in this wave. And you got to be in the top 15 in this wave to advance to the weekend. Or something like that would be a lot more interesting to follow Thursday, Friday. I think they got a great finish out of it and exciting finish, but the path to get there is pretty long and frankly, even for golf fans, not that interesting. I doubt many non-golf fans are watching the Olympics on Friday. It's 60 guys.

Yeah. You could do a 36-holt day. Sure. Or, you know what I mean? There's so many different things you could do, but I think the key there is the fact that, like the PGA Tour spearheaded all this. They have zero creativity with anything, right?

Question for you guys, is the world baseball, or the world baseball classic still a thing? Is that still going on? Or is that die? Who could say that? I believe it got COVID interrupted, but I think it is still a thing. Still a thing? And it's still a good thing or like a creative to the sport? Oh, T.C. I got to, I got a research site and get back to you. You're a big baseball

guy. I know. I know. What you have no idea. I know what you should tell you. That's kind of it. First, I was kind of in a first, but I think they ran into the same thing with just trying to find a good spot on the schedule where like if you're not going to get the best players in the world to participate, then what are we doing? So what, where are we going with that? I was just wondering. I mean, all I've heard all week is like DJ and so many and Randy talking baseball. So I just wanted to bring it back to baseball.

Right. Also, like maybe we're overitting the importance of the Olympics. Little bit, right? I feel like Neil and I are probably John this. I still call back to 96 in Atlanta. We just moved back to Atlanta and we went to a bunch of... We went to the Beach volleyball or you were there when Kerry Strog and the gymnast. I went to Dream Team.

It was a three-week party in Atlanta. It was awesome. But like, maybe, like, it seems like this year with, like, I think NBC's done a very, very poor job of, and granted a lot of this is COVID related. And it's time related. Like, let's be honest about the golf, too. It's tough to, like,

Salia and I were watching golf last night and Randy, and I fell asleep on the couch. Flat out, I was, I was, I fell asleep on the couch. Flat out, I fell asleep. I fell asleep on the eighth hole and I woke up and I looked at Sally and we said that's I think it's time to go to bed. But like conversely, what a chance his golf gets exciting. Yeah, we both looked at each other like, dude, I don't think I'm going to make it. I can't make it.

And that's the truth. But conversely, sometimes like when they're in Australia, which is a similar time zone, like we get so excited to stay up and watch when they're in Australia, which is a similar time zone, like we get so excited to stay up and watch when that role Melbourne or somewhere like that and granted the if it was Royal Melbourne I would not have gone to sleep. I truly believe that but it also helps that that was the president's cup And it was a team event and there's so much yeah, that gets the nationality stuff going that that's the whole point of the Olympics It's like that's so much easier to support and watch it when it has these like literally nationalism ties to it. Oh my god. I guess we're all getting together or there's a lot more drama.

It's just like NBC's taking a fucking bath on these Olympics. A little bit right? Or like they're they're paying so much money for these are in a shitty time zone. They're they're they're not, it's impossible to bring Tokyo to life. Like every time they show an overhead or any sort of city shots of Tokyo, it looks like somewhere very familiar, right? Where it's like Tokyo is one of the most unique and remarkable, I've never been there,

but like most unique and remarkable places in the world and it just seems like it's Seattle or Vancouver or somewhere on the west coast. I'd Tokyo's got to be taking a bath on this. Sure. MBC's hands are tied. I was reading some of them though that was like an eye opening moment for me. Just how MBC treats the Olympics for American viewers at least on their flagship. It's like a highlight. Yeah they don't really show that much sport. I think that's where the cock comes in though

Like right and then they try to get you on all their affiliate channels But you know if you're just like I'm gonna turn on NBC watching a little bit like you're not watching that much Just live sport a lot of check-in. Yeah, okay. Let's check in with the gymnast I'm like no stay with the gymnastics. I'm but I think that's where you have to be an active viewer, right? They're basically saying, Hey, here's a lead in and if this interested you go here and this is on live right now. Yeah, I can I interest you guys and some questions from from listeners before I forget to work some of these in. Yes, please. Jamie Kennedy over under gold medals for X-man 4.5. That's a great question. I think that one's directed at me. I you know what what I'll take that one. I'm going to go under.

What the hell I'll go over. Jamie, thank you for that. Tyler Munson seven. Are they cowards for not doing the seven some in the playoff for the bronze medal? That's yeah. Yeah, they are definitely. Sure.

100%. That is something I would have loved to have been mad about in present time. I was very surprised. I wish I would have stayed away. Are there any questions about Zander's? Zander's podium get up. I have not seen any questions of that, but we could address that.

He's where he was wearing the sweatsuit that the athletes wear. The athletes wear. And it was what you say looked like a ghost buzzer. Ghost buzzer. Somebody to no, no, no, no. Yeah, I was going to say Cody might have said that too. But it was, I mean, it was, it was a, or no, Nick might have said, I don't know. It was, it was a, you know, it was a look for sure. How, so can we bring this back to PGA Tour Golf?

Unfortunately, how can we have a playoff for third place? And I don't know if playoff is the answer for every place on the PGA tour. I can tell you it's not the answer. How in one event they make you care about who finishes third yet on the PGA tour, I quizzed you guys earlier. How many FedEx Cup points go to the third place guy? No one knows the answer.

I know where you're going, but that's just an Olympic thing. We're so conditioned with the medals. Right, but George Russell finished P9, not in bumped up to P8 today and was shedding tears and the formula won race because that sport has done such a great job. The viewers made the viewers care about who finishes in a top place other than first place. It'll be interesting. I mean, just on that, it does not matter.

On that thing, if it's a top 10 spot, and, grand, this would be a nightmare with with you know daylight and everything like that but if if there was daylight or if there was the ability to do this if you had inside the top five if instead of splitting the money you know splitting the fourth and fifth play it once had there's two guys tied for fourth instead of splitting fourth and fifth and you know chopping that total prize money in half if you just had those those two guys go back out and play for something to decide that $120,000 difference.

I'd fucking watch that. Especially if it's a bad tournament. If it's a foreshot win for somebody, but the second place or the third place is where the action is at, that would be. That would be a total nightmare for the TV that's how the just tonight there logistics and the contracts would not or encourage the players that you know what man I will challenge you like now or talk every course has to buy whole yeah or the following way you know what we're both

playing a part of the weekend wind yeah on Tuesday let's go on playing nine holes for the difference in this check or the events in this FedEx Cup points I playing next week at Windham. Yeah. On Tuesday, let's go on playing nine holes for the difference in this check, or the difference in these FedEx cup points. I do just... We're in Commissioner for Daytarter. Yeah, I just wanna get us back. I found it just very interesting

that the most fun part of this seemed to be a seven way playoff for third place. Like that's so, I think that's a really cool aspect of the Olympics, a differentiating aspect that we didn't get that part of the experience in 2016 that we have a gold medal winner, we have a silver medal winner, and seven dudes are going out and fighting, playing a playoff for a medal, an Olympic medal. It's awesome.

I think one of the things that's impactful with that is there's like, we do have a midfield battle on the PGA tour. Yeah, but they just suck at high levels. They're just so bad at telling that story until we get to Windum or the week before and then by that point it's like a Lot of it's already sorted out or there's three guys in the bubble instead of We see it on the Leader or like the whole point projected to drop this many points, you know

But I don't know why or how that's how and then the guy that finishes 126 on the money list or on the on the points list goes the cornferry finals, but then still gets into 12 or 13 events the following year in the PGA tour and it's like, that's why we need the death panel guys. All right, let's bring this back around. We got a great question. So I love what you're going. This question was from Gino Rubico. He said, just like the high jumpers came together

and agreed to share gold. I don't know if he saw this guy this clip, but I didn't see that. Awesome. The high jumper from Italy and from Qatar tied. And I asked him, do you want to have a jump off for the gold medal? They're like, no, let's share it.

And they erupted into a celebration together. I mean, everybody is a champion. Let's jump in right there. I have a little bit of a problem. That's in the rulebook though. They have the option to split the metal. Let's go ahead and say, continuing Gino's question,

should all seven have been on the podium to get the bronze? Which of the seven would have said no way let's have a playoff? I mean if everybody gets a bronze, does anybody get a bronze? Can you just list off the seven we got CT pan Moracawa, Mito Pereira Sebastian, Munoz, Roy, McElroy, Deque, Metsi, Yama, Paul Casey I Think a deck you would have said let's let's play

I think Roy let's let's go ahead and play yeah, I don't know if that was an option Is that for all sports? They have that option Neil or is that I was reading I was reading that there's a rule in the like a deep in the Olympic rulebook that there's Like an option to Share metal. I don't know if that's for all metals. Was that before or after it might be sport related I was just reading the one about the high jumping and it was at USA today post that I read Is that before or after the public corruption and bribery rules? I'm not sure. I think it was rule like 135 or on page 135

Neils of big one and Tony is some ranch guy What happened? What would have happened if sung Jay or Seewoo would have been in that playoff for the third place And they would have been able to exempt been exempt from military service. Can you explain that real quick? I know but I'm sure there are people listening that don't know. Do you know? No. Okay. It is all South Korean men must complete 18 months or two years of military service. 18 months of military service before their 30. Is that right? 34th. And you are exempt if you achieve certain sporting achievements on a global stage. If you win a major, I believe, you are exempt major Olympic medal. And I think the like the Asia, like some sort of Asia

championship or like the Asia, you know, Pacific Am. But I think some of these guys that are really, really good, really really really young get actually a Disadvantaged because the age out or they they turn pro and they can't play in that Kind of during their image or prime. I think they can also get residency Yeah, but then they're then they're subject to the scorn of their countrymen Okay, that is a I mean technically away. I heart take. Like, if your country has compulsory service, then you should do it just in your bayonets. I don't think that's a heart take at all.

Yeah, like, I'm kind of glad that they should do it. Yeah. Well, then there was, and then some of these things that were all sorts of, because it was what Sangmoon Bay went and did it. But then you could tell that like there were anonymous sources Shitting on him because he had like a pencil or a paper He was pushing papers in a bureaucratic role and playing golf every weekend Versus other guys have done it and said, hey, I'm you know, I'm gonna truly go in the military here, but

Can we talk a little bit about like did they set the course up super easy yesterday? Can we talk a little bit about like did they set the course up super easy yesterday? I don't know. Because there's got crazy like I mean we're a 17 you shot a 61 with two bogies. They had 10 birdies and eagle and two bogies like five pars the greens did not look very difficult. They guys made putts from pretty much everywhere. CT pan shots 63 more Kawashat 63. You know 64 from Holland.

There were some low, low scores Saturday and Sunday. And then I think it affects things. I really do. I think if you wanna draw golf fans into this, I think it needs to be some kind of different test from what we see week two weeks. Well, that's the thing. I think that a little bit of like,

it was a different presentation in Brazil, right? It wasn't the average thing. I was like, hey, this is interesting. This is a little bit of like, it was a different presentation in Brazil, right? It wasn't the average thing. I was like, hey, this is interesting. This is a little bit different. This isn't the week-to-week test. On a golf course design, especially for the Olympics. And this felt like, I know Fazio came in, and I know Aimein, through a shot at Fazio, and also people who did track

from Fazio designs. But I do think, like, at some point, if it looks like the week-to-week setup, you're kind of going to treat it like the week to week set up, right? 100%. AD plaques sports, if CWOO or SungJ and Rory were in a playoff for the bronze, do you think Rory or any other established tour pros would consider purposely gagging it? No, again, no, I would hope not. I don't know.

I'm with Randy. Yeah. The more I read about that, the more I came around of like, I'm unsubscribing from the rooting for the South Koreans to metal. I also like to hear their opinion on it. True and unvarnished. Yeah, like do, I mean, they're probably like, I'm proud to do that.

I've been raised to do that. Like I don't know because nobody's, I don't, I haven't they're probably like, I'm proud to do that. I've been raised to do that. Like, I don't know because nobody's, I haven't read anything of anybody asking them about it. Is that just us projecting like, oh my God, that's, can't believe they have to do that. Like, that's, which is not, I mean, I don't know. I don't think that's right. I mean, I just empathize.

It's a massive, it's a massive imposition or inconvenience in your like the course of your career. But I like to give them say that. Yeah, totally. Or I mean, maybe they wouldn't say that publicly. You know, public service and national duty is a thing too. So it's also, I mean, this is gonna be tough wording

and a tough take, I think, or cringy take for some people. But serving, like playing professionally and being a recognizable athlete for your country is in a way serving that country, right? It's not the same as military service. Like if you are blessed with a unique skill that brings pride to your country on a global stage, I don't think they're short on manpower with the military, right?

They've also got, yeah. I don't really understand what you're saying. I think we could, I could poke a lot of holes in that. I'm guessing that's why they have this exclusion within it, right? If you are achieving this on a world stage achieving these specific things, like you can be a... Especially how golf craze Korea is.

Yeah, I think that's part of it is, I mean, I understand their geopolitical position where they have thousands of cannons pointing at them from North Korea like in Newk like you know there's there's like very catastrophic harm point into soul but at the same time there is there's a point of national pride, whereas like let's say we had conscription or draft here in the US like I don't think that golf is serving the national Spirit or then you know the Pitching way down on the list of things that like actually matter in my book. Yeah, you know

But I understand a smaller nation though that that might be smaller than the US I think that might couldn't potentially Hasn't, did David Robinson get the admiral? The admiral didn't get his service after the Naval Academy waived, or am I? Well, there was a big thing here recently where there was a guy from the Naval Academy. He got drafted by the, either drafted

or signed by the Buckenhears. And then he, last secretary of defense denied it and he got, he got an exemption basically to where he can play in the NFL, but he's got to do. And like Chad Hall, you know, you be for Air Force, Air Force, and then he went to the Eagles and all that. Like you can go do recruiting and stuff like that

and pay your service that way. At J-Knock's underscore 59, should Kochrack apply for Saudi citizenship into 2024 Olympic birth to fulfill his promise of growing the game in that country? Especially now that he's going to get blackballed from the tour for, although, if it's just a, like, so I guess to re-ash the tour basically said this, it's A, it's no longer a, like, so I guess to, to re-ash the tour basically said this, it's, it's,

it's, hey, it's no longer as sanctioned. The bone-somitation was no longer as sanctioned. European tour event. And I think that, I think the Saudis are trying to invest in the Asian tour. Yeah, they have. They have, yeah. You know, like a hundred million dollars in the Asian tour and basically going to make the Saudi Saudi like the Saudi events Do multiple make those kind of an Asian series and then they're sanctioned by the OWGR and all that but basically The crux of the argument is that the tour they're not starting suspensions and threatening

Monetary punishments but the so the Saudis can basically just get around it and say hey, we'll pay you 1.5 million to come over and say you're fine. We'll pay you're fine. $700,000. You know, come over. I think that's a question that would truly be going all in. It's a tough, tough, tough timing for our point, Cochrane. Light of his life.

I was wondering why he got an appearance fee to go play in that last year and sure enough now he's officially sponsored by golf. Golf Saudi. How much money is enough money for some of these guys? Come on. I mean, co-crack though. You got to cash in. It's a tough thing because he's a troop.

Yeah, it's true. You know, so how do you square those two things? There's a long alliance there with our troops. We're selling the hard troops. Exactly. At Jordan Fuller asks, how long did it take before Sabatini FaceTime Collins girlfriend? I don't even know where to go. Remember when they got caught on the hot bike when, when Speed hit into Sabatini and Borkow was like, yeah, he kept FaceTime in my girlfriend.

It was really weird. Sure enough. Sabatini. We, do we talk enough about my girlfriend. It was really weird. Sure enough. Sabotee, did we talk enough about Sabotee when he's silver medal? No, not at all. This is absolutely absurd. This entire thing has been a build up to like,

okay, so just so I understand it. I was born a year ago. He gained his wife is Slovakian. Yeah, and shout out to the shotgun star with the boy from Bratislava. As you can see, this is like the culmination of like, a four year building inside joke for them. But they are absolutely buzzing over there.

And he was over the moon on, you know, a couple nights. It's gonna be like Chez winning the mask. Yes, I know. And I just wanna get it straight. It's he's South African. Yes. By birth. And he's also for citizenship because his wife's cousin

His on the Olympus the his wife's cousin is like head of their Olympic program. Oh, maybe but his wife is what allows him Okay, pathway to Slovakian citizenship. Okay, and he did that How long ago? 2018 Like three years ago. It was it was all building haste Specifically so he could play in the Olympics. Yes. Okay. That's the only reason at sawgrass at PGA tour HQ that the Slovakian flag is up there

or is there another Slovakian PGA tour? I think there's one other Slovakian guy who's a professional golfer, but he's currently indicted for murder or something like that. It's a very weird situation, I think. I don't blame one Iota. I think the opportunity to become the big fish in a very small pond is kind of cool. It's very similar to some of the US men's national team stuff where there's You know Julian Green like born to

Yeah, they just have to make that decision earlier. Yeah, exactly and the opportunity was offered to him like Present it to him. It was not his idea. It was hey, you could play golf in the Olympics for some luck Hey, why not? I mean it worked. You want to fucking sell for metal. You want a Olympic medal through this route. He would not have been on the South Africa. He's 48. Yeah, it's incredible. He brought his game.

I mean, he was, he's been to talk about the apex of your sport or personally, like, you know, that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. Live forever in Slovakian sports history, you know? That's kind of cool. I'm going to do a quick, deep dive on Slovakian sports history, you know, that's kind of cool. I'm going to do a quick deep dive on Slovakian sports history. You guys keep rolling here. I wonder what, you know, this is what we could see, or can we,

will we see a downstream effect of golf in Slovakia as a result of this, right? I mean, I truly don't know. I would imagine the impact will not be this, right? I mean, I truly don't know. I would imagine the impact will not be zero, right? They're going to want to invest more in their Olympic golf programs. And does that mean the game of golf grows in Slovakia and Central Europe in general, which I feel I could be a huge growth opportunity. Like for the European Ryder Cup team and the European tour in general, expanding the game towards Central Europe, there's 500 million people that live in Europe, yet they don't have as many golfers in Europe

as we do in the United States, I would imagine, just because just sheer like the lack of golf that's available in the Eastern and Central Europe, I would think. Can I interest you guys in what the metal count for, or what the most like prominent sport in the summer games for Slovakia is, is it, I feel like handball, you're not going to get it in like 20 tries.

Archery. Slalom canoeing. Oh, I knew that. Absolutely running. They have 19 medals in Slalom canoeing, eight gold, seven silver, four bronze, six in shooting, one in athletics, I'm assuming that's like, to Catholic or something like that, two silver in swimming and then one golf, judo and wrestling. And then they got, they run the byathlon in winter. They, they show up in the winter. I feel like they punch above their weight.

They only have eight medals and seven in biathlon and one. Oh, really? I would have guessed all. So they know how to shoot and ski. Yeah. But they're not great at one of them. They're great at both of them.

JT was a little bit of a disappointment. I really thought he was going to compete pretty strong. He finished through the line. That's what another thing that's got to be weird if you're in the Olympics. What is there to play for when you're way back? There's no fourth place. Fourth place in 60th get the exact same out of it. It's like a WGC, but there's no purse. There's no purse that's attached to it. Well, I guess credit to CT Pan. He was I think in 58th place after around

one. It's unbelievable. I feel like, you know, a little disappointment in JT has been a theme of 2021 here. Are we declaring anything? Not yet. Not yet. We're still. I think the players win. I was gonna say the players got to give them some life. Right. So well. The players. No, we're doing some testing. The doctors are, we're trying to diagnose what's wrong. It's funny. I'm on the ESPN leaderboard. And Rory's still got the northern Irish flag. And so I'm on this one because I don't think they can separate this out from his profile

in their system. If I can't say on the Rory note, his willingness to, he's the only one that I guess got, not the only one, but he is always willing to give you, tell you exactly what he thinks. So he gave his honest opinions on why he probably was not excited. Very good reasons, I think, to not be excited about the Olympics. He talked about patriotism and how, you know, for a lot of people that follow the game, probably a lot of them come from the United States. They don't understand somebody that has a very confused allegiance to a country.

No, almost no one in the game of golf grows up under the northern, a flag like Northern Ireland, which is very complicated history of, you know, relationship with the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland and how it just made him not very excited the decision about who to play for in 2016 and everything that worked around it and him coming around and saying that he, you know, has fully changed, caught up in the Olympic spirit by going to it. I good on him for, you know, being open to the change, right? And it felt like he was going through the motions in the beginning part.

But I genuinely think his comments and JT's comments about, you know, this being the coolest event he's ever played in, including the Ryder Cup. That gives me a lickit. I feel like there lack a lot of lack of interest in this over the last two Olympics and people not going to it has influenced me not being that into it. And like hearing those two guys talk about it's kind of like, ah, all right, damn, like that got my attention in terms of what I think about Olympic. Exactly. That's, I felt the same way. Just like, if those guys care about it, then All right, then that makes me want to care about it

I think Roy is kind of an open book for better or worse, right? Where maybe like maybe all right Like maybe you shouldn't talk about how much you let big sucks before you've experienced I that's what I was saying. He kind of maybe Said too much before beforehand and he maybe He's a lot of down as tired as game isn't where he wants it to be I guess he was being honest and And so we can't be good for exactly. You can't flame like one of the things I love about Rory is I feel like he's very real. So I'm not maybe he does say too much sometimes, but that's how he felt in that moment. And it's actually cool to see

somebody change their mind and then be vocal about it after the fact of like actually totally exceeded my expectations. And I feel very differently after I've done it. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's where I support it. People can get this very confused, right? You can't ask somebody to be honest and then, you know, slay them for their comments or criticize their comments. Like, actually, you definitely can. Like, that's kind of like why people want you to be honest. Now, that's good reason for athletes to shut the hell up and not say anything, right? Because they don't want to be critiqued on things they say. But that some of us always admired about Rory.

It's like he will put himself out there. He will accept that some people are going to disagree with the things he has to say. It's going to be sometimes be polarizing, but he's still going to give it to you. And he's going to be thoughtful and it's going to be a complete answer. And he's probably going to get pretty pissed at you if you take what he says and dumb it down into a click-bady headline Because he always provides you context around these answers. That's why his Paul Kimmage interviews were so good They're deep. They include full on answers and follow up questions whereas all this stuff

It's why he's been great on podcasts great on our podcasts because he will tell you a a full answer a four minute answer on a question Because really let you in. Yes. And we need more people like that and golf to make this, honestly, a sport that could be very boring at times to fall professionally, but a little bit more interesting. I think just going down the leaderboard, I just keep seeing Paul Casey's name.

I'm like, man, the only reason Paul Casey wants to win an Olympic medal is to convert it into sponsorship dollars. I'm sure I don't know about that. I feel like that's maybe maybe Paul Casey's just I don't know if we know from like, yeah, I think I think we assume a lot about Paul Casey because we don't You know, we're not we're not very close to Paul Casey, but he seems like he honestly I think he would have he seems like a very English Him and Rose just to me there like I think he would have loved to win a gold medal for winning a gold medal I think he would have been extremely proud of that. I don't think it's just for sponsor money is what I'm getting that

Yeah, and like going down a list here just looking through it like why Casey would love to win anything That's also fair to that that might be the only day right? Yeah, you don't win anything So I but I think going down a list here Joaquin Neiman and Cam Smith Joaquin shot 70 in the first round Cam shot 71 in the first round both finished T 10 at minus 14 I think both those guys which probably wish they had like as they were both, you know them Honest Abe I thought honest Abe was gonna absolutely show out for this event like this is the thing that he you

know like thrives on Tommy Fleetwood I thought he was he was in prime position he made made a lot of bogies I mean honestly that's kind of pretty much what we seen from Tommy for the last two years. Maybe I'm just in denial. I thought P was disappointing. I thought P was disappointing too. That's a late ad. That's a late ad. He's got the jet lag.

I guess P tied with JT. So you got to be a lot more disappointed in JT. First sure, I'm not going to get, I'm not going to pile on P for a ride basically getting on site by Wednesday. How about SunJay? SunJay starts 70, 73. And then on the weekend he shoots 63, 68, but puts himself behind the eight ball. Like there was a lot of guys like that that did, you know, um, Sanjay said a very quiet. I would also, I would like

to, to give Hadecki credit. Yeah. I think he showed up and almost went the distance and, and deserves, you know, there's got to be a ton of pressure. He hasn't been playing well since the Masters and he showed up and he's in the final group on, you know, I guess, Sunday, final round. So. And more Kawa. We've barely talked about him and how he was. Yeah.

A shot away from being on the podium as well. And watching him put the little bit of golf that I dig it to see this week, that, that man's starting to pour it in the center. It looks to be a little bit more sustainable putting model for confidence. Yeah. It's like, it's hey, there's less scar tissue. Yeah. I'm seeing the ball going the whole.

Carlos Ortiz didn't, he shot 65, 67, 69. So he was a part 71, I think. So he was six, 10, 12 undergoing in the final round. I shot 78 in the final round, which was one of the highest scores of the entire week. And shout out to Medellin Pereira. Wins three times in the corn fairy tour and shows up and is in the playoff for 30-30. Keep me out of the pouch. Any other Olympic takes before we got to get to Smith one.

And then we got a very, very disappointing. I'm a little bit worried about big leash. But no, I don't think Mackenzie, I wish she would have played a little bit better final round. But no, there's nothing to play for if you're outside of that. Top 10 with a look at the bronze medal. And do you want to speak to, you know, using your last draft pick on Nico Holcomb Bergas, Nicholas the T. He got the gut points at the F1 race.

Yeah, I think listen, no regrets there. How about Georgie finishing the points finally. What is that? I think I think for George seems like a genuinely awesome dude. Yeah. What is that? I think I think for sure he seems like a genuinely awesome dude. Yeah from you know his radio Please, you know, I Let's make this race about

Nicholas Latifi to being extremely emotional after the race. I don't know him except for what I see Each Sunday and some social media clips, but man, he strikes me as just a really genuine guy. Same with, yeah, just like Nikita Mazepin, right? And I'm very happy for. How about you guys congratulating me for Esteban O'Conn's win today? I'm really happy for you. Well, Randy, I think O'Conn, I think that it comes with, you know, if you want to celebrate,

then you have to take responsibility for a medal as well, right? Yeah, he got screwed. I need to look into that more. No, Terry, Terry Boat asked. We got to talk about Terry Boat asked. He got screwed. He got screwed. He's a completely wrecking boy. He was a danger to everybody.

Like, he always did. What was the hell with Stroll doing? No, the fact that it's signs got crowned up and under the podium. You guys are too hard on both sides signs it signs is essentially like like land straw with a little bit more talent a little bit less so what's things is I think lando is winning that race today and he just got obliterated by by Botos on that first lap it's suspicious two weeks in a row Hamilton after getting in first place is knocked

out the race by Mercedes driver almost knocked out he was able to race but it's. Toto is doing some pre-provoking shit right now. Toto got pants today on the opening line sitting Hamilton Hamilton went out there only one that started the race because everyone else went and switched out of their intermediate tires. That was a poor decision. Well apparently it was also Hamilton's decision to make. They can't tell them the information lab to come in. So Hamilton has to make that decision to come in.

It's clear to up very, very, very quickly. It's saying they were on that red flag. And then it cleared up. And they were like, oh, like they got back out there and then, you know, crafty in the boys. Or it's super dry up, girl. They were, yeah, they were, they were geek. Randy, any, any, uh, any apologies from McLaren?

No, I just said, I think Lando was winning the race today, but he got, and Ricardo got side swipe too. They, they got totally assassinated by Mercedes by Botos. I mean, Ricardo's, you know, finishing, you know, down a lap. He's, I know, but he took damage in that first lap. He's a rudderless. He's a rudderless. He has been in this point, but I'll go... Especially absolutely give you that.

Fernando Alonzo finished fifth slash fourth today after the Vettel. It was a goofy race. Alonzo won that race for Ocon by putting his elbows out around for Hamilton for as long as he possibly could. That's a good team name. Let's wrap it up. Thanks everyone for tuning in. or Ocon by putting his elbows out around for Hamilton for as long as he possibly could. That's a good, yeah, that's a good teammate. Let's wrap it at that. Thanks everyone for tuning in.

Again, wish we could have watched more Olympic golf this week, which we could have covered a little bit more on social media, but we are deep, we're in the middle, or the middle point of filming season seven of Taurusos up in Michigan. It will be some good content coming this fall because of it, and I promise you that. So cheers, boys, thank you for a lovely evening.

Let's get some sleep and get back out tomorrow. Well, and if you haven't watched the first six seasons, go to our YouTube channel and check them out. Check them out. Well done. Oregon last year. Start there. All right.

Good night. Cheers. Crack on. Good night club. Peter Rice Club today. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's better than most.

How about in? That is better than most. Better than most. Yeah. Expect anything different.