No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 464: FedEx St. Jude/Women's Olympic Golf Recap

Episode Date: August 9, 2021

This week's pod is a busy one: Abe Ancer's win in Memphis, Harris English's meltdown, Bryson, more Bryson comments, Nelly Korda's gold, what women's golf in the Olympics means, the new PGA TOUR schedu...le, and a ton more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the No Langa podcast back in the kill house. The crew is back. DJ Pies here to my right. Hello DJ. Hello guys, how are you? T.C. is here. Hello T.C. Greetings. Good to be home.
Starting point is 00:00:40 It was a fun, fun week of golf, if I may say so. If you didn't get enough golf through the WGC FedEx St. Jude and the Barricuda champion It's good to be home. It was a fun, fun week of golf, if I may say so. If you didn't get enough golf through the WGC FedEx St. Jude and the Barakuda Championship, you as the US women's AM, there was the Olympic golf for the women and the Olympics, of course. You may have seen, if you'd watched the Barakuda, you may have seen Eric Van Ruin
Starting point is 00:00:58 and the hunt for his first PGA Tour win. Van Ruin is one of the subject of Calaways. Latest video series, the second installment of their series, The Jump. It is a look kind of, beyond the leaderboard inside the heads of a few Calaway athletes preparing for big career jumps. This season on Calaway's YouTube channel
Starting point is 00:01:15 it highlights Eric Van Ruin. John Rom may have heard of him and Van Dam, Okshay Bhatia and Will Gordon. In addition to seeing a very impressively organized shoot collection in Van Roen's garage, there's plenty to learn about. All these athletes or backgrounds or motivation, interesting note about the John Rom episode. The plan was to talk about his, the jump being his switch to Calloway in his quest to Winham
Starting point is 00:01:37 Major, and the filming was scheduled for the week after the United States Open Jabe. That was so well. Had to do a little bit of a pivot on that storyline, but also a fun fact we learned on the jump in season one, had an episode about Sam Burns, who obviously just finished a second place at the WGC that we're gonna talk about. He can operate an excavator, true story. If you didn't know that,
Starting point is 00:01:55 you would've learned that from the jump. He's Freddie's favorite player. Is he really? That's great to him because of the excavator. Niels' favorite player also because of the mustache. You can catch the episodes on Caloay's YouTube channel again. That's the jump season two with Okshay and Van Dam, Ram Van Royen and Will Gordon on Caloay's YouTube channel.
Starting point is 00:02:13 I think we start with the FedEx St. Jude, WGC, FedEx St. Jude, championship challenge, Jim Vittational, kind of an honestly lost track of it there. Look, Jim Nance had difficulty with the title at one point as well. But is the story A-Banzers first win or everyone else shitting the bed today? A little bit of both. I think. Good for honest Abe. T.C. as you've told us many times, guys literally never told the lie. He also chopped on a cherry tree. He was as young.
Starting point is 00:02:37 You know, only matter of time, I think they said that a bunch on the broadcast couldn't agree more. Guys seems like he's been in contention forever. I was almost kind of shocking to be reminded that he hadn't won. It just seemed like he had picked off a fall event or some early season event or something last year. There's just so many events. It's kind of shocking that he hadn't got one with how much he's in contention.
Starting point is 00:02:58 And he almost won Heritage last year, which is the one I keep thinking that he won when we've gotten by one shot. But just an awesome, awesome finish man. Cool to see him. Both him and Sam Burns kind of nut up in that second playoff hole, stick wedges in there close. Kind of bummed to see Sam Burns
Starting point is 00:03:13 with a violent vicious lip out there. But happy for honor state, it seems like a very solid dude. Abe is just very subtly progressed through his career. And I think a lot of people probably look at him, and I think, probably as I say this on the telecast too, but just assume he just puts the absolute lights out, and that's the only reason you can contend, just because he's not tall and stature,
Starting point is 00:03:34 which I think was highlighted when they did him dirty last year on those microphones, that they had set up in between the nine-nose. They didn't change the height of it from female to Abraham Answer, but he is a legit, one of the best ball strikers out there. I mean, he is a Strokes game machine off the tee and with approaches. His putting has been solid in the last couple years. It was never a strong point really up until 2020, but yes, as gained in strokes gained every single year since 2017 since 2016 really going from a negative Strokes game player all the way to positive 1.43, which I know those numbers can mean a lot
Starting point is 00:04:09 or not mean a lot to you. Positive 1.43 is an elite PGA tour player. It's a really, really good player. That's almost six shots better than the average tour player throughout the course of the tournament. And that's gonna make you a lot, a lot of money. He's got 30 top 10s, or sorry, 20 top 10s since the beginning of 2017.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And he won the Australian Open. So that's a legit win. Finished second to make a rib earlier this year, Wells Fargo. He's poked around so many times and I think it's probably the most notable thing is just the president's cup. Right. He's a dog. he's a dog. He's a certified dog.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I would fully coast on that. I think also the most notable thing is, he of course was the victim of that tiger woods walk-in in singles match after saying he wanted to play tiger. Also, they should give him come back player of the year after that. That's the current Jordan. They should resurrect that and make sure
Starting point is 00:05:02 you're honest to have your gets it. Not only is the WGC a bigger purse than normal PGA Tour events. Also, there's a lot of sponsorship bonus money that comes with a Tour win. Imagine that for a dancer. It is maximized out, right sleeve, right chest, left chest, left sleeve, left collar, right collar,
Starting point is 00:05:22 back of the nape, and all four spots on the hat he's got sponsors. His agent is the hardest working man in the business. It's all I mean, heck, he's probably lobbying the tour to give him a special exemption for, you know, left buttocks, right? Yeah. All the stuff we talked about in the, uh, in the commission or the the player handbook. We're not calling them out for anything illegal. They're all of appropriate size. And the, the, the, anything illegal. They're all of appropriate size. And the the the the the count, I believe is accurate. It's he doesn't have more than eight on his on his shirt,
Starting point is 00:05:50 but it's just it's impressive. It's very impressive. He's deep in with big oil. Two. He's a wildcatter. He's got the he's got the drilling one on there. He's a true wildcatter. Veritex bank.
Starting point is 00:06:03 He's got he's got all of them. Abraham sponsors will number the stars, as I mentioned today. He might be big techs. It's possible. I like that. I think he lives outside of San Antonio, right? Who does? He does.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Sam Burns, as you mentioned, honestly, I kind of did a little double take when I realized he was going to be in the playoffs. I remember him making the big putt on 18, and I was like, oh, god, he's going to take T3. That's a great finish for Sam. And I was like, oh, my god, oh, God, he's gonna take T3, that's a great finish for Sam. And I was like, oh my, oh shit, he's actually gonna be in the playoffs. Who do we talk meltdown first, Bryson, Harris, or Camp Smith?
Starting point is 00:06:31 I think you gotta start with Harris. Okay. I mean, the, you know, Harris got it to what, 20, 21? 20 under. And we finished that to play off at 16. So I mean, I think we gotta, I think we gotta start there. But did you see the gap that Cam Smith tried to hit it? Trust me, we'll get there.
Starting point is 00:06:46 We'll get there. That was unbelievable stuff from Harrison. I don't know how deep we want to get into it now and where there's any blame to lay or if any, but he was talking kind of nonstop about the pace. I know you picked up on that kind of him saying that into the mic, like I just got a hate playing rushed, but he kind of started to about the pace. I know you picked up on that kind of him saying that into the mic. I just got a hate playing rushed, but he kind of started to look like Neil out there
Starting point is 00:07:08 when Neil gets a group of hide of it. It just turns into a total shit show. To clarify, he didn't get picked up on the mic. He said it loud and he wanted somebody to hear. Almost like he wanted Bryson to hear. He's walking off the green on one of them and it wasn't like a man, a habean rushed. It was like a, a happy and rushed kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And I'm surprised it didn't comment on it when it happened, but it very much seemed pointed, guided, and he just was, yeah, I'm up two minds here. I don't think, I do not think in any way, Harris is blameless for this, right? There is a curve ball thrown at you part of being a professional athlete is when things are not going to plan
Starting point is 00:07:44 that you have a plan in place and that you are able to handle that and he did clearly did not handle that very well. Yet, I've never seen, I don't know if I can recall seeing somebody get so flustered by the clock that being, I don't even know where they officially put on the clock. They said they were warned twice about their position and I don't know if that means they'd ever clarify if that means being put on the clock. That means when you put on the clock, you have a rules official on the booth, help us out with that, I think.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Guys, we're gonna warn you three more times before we put you on the clock. No, before we warn you that the next phase of warnings that we're gonna put you on. I think he kind of let Bryson off the hook a little bit in some of his post-round comments too, if you saw the transcript. He was very, very deflective of any Bryson blames and totally not his fault
Starting point is 00:08:26 It just happens when you got to get rulings and then they had the kind of shit show on 11 Which I kind of agree with totally no totally yeah, I don't I don't think it was Bryson's fault I mean, I'm sure Bryson's not the fastest guy, but we don't have him to step off of shots because guys are you know We don't totally I'll get out ahead of this because I'm sure there'll be plenty of Bryson pinniotting later on. But he doesn't get a ton of credit for massively picking up his pace of play. He's still slow as fuck though.
Starting point is 00:08:54 He is, but it was like laughably, like comic book slow beforehand, like, like, villainist. And he's just like moderately breaking the rules. Point is, I don't think it was totally his fault today. But it was crazy. It was crazy. I'm with you that I can't recall somebody,
Starting point is 00:09:10 like just coming totally unglued the way Harris did. He was hitting the ball faster than he needed to. I mean, you get 40 seconds when you're put on the clock. When you, so if you're not familiar with the rule, you can basically take as long as you, you know, you want to, if you are keeping pace with the group in front of you. You're not being timed unless your group falls out of position. And if you're out of position,
Starting point is 00:09:29 you are your first time over 40 seconds. If you're the second player to hit or your first time over 50 seconds or if you're the first player to hit, that's results in awarding. And the second time, you are penalized one shot. So not only that, but he wasn't even officially warned
Starting point is 00:09:46 as far as I know that he was over time, right? So you still have that built in buffer, your first bad time is only gonna be a warning. And he was rushing through shots as if before that warning even came. I think once you have the warning, then it's like, all right, shit, I cannot get another bad time.
Starting point is 00:10:01 And just look at how he said he rushed a shot on what's the part 315, 14. He said he rushed a shot on what's the part three, 15, 14. He said he rushed a shot on that and it cost him two shots. So it's a combination of like just a hard end, it's impossible to write these rules to properly address the situation. And also him not handling it very well.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Yeah, I mean, maybe he just doesn't want to get fine either. Maybe he's played with some slow players all right this year and he just doesn't want to get fined either. Maybe he's, he's played with some slow players all right this year and, and he just doesn't want to get fined. He's already up to eight, nine, 10, something like that. I believe he said that they were timed on 12. So they were put on the clock after the, after the mess on 11. After the double in the triple.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Yeah. But nothing in there that he would have fish had received that warning for the first one, right? So I'm not sure. Yeah. So I don not sure. Yeah. So I don't know. Again, that's, it honestly looked like he was just trying to get it in the house, had already missed the cut.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Like that's the pace that he was playing with. Like the lack of days go nature, which he played the 16th hole, there's no excuse for that. I mean, it's the easiest hole in the golf course. He made bogey on it and ends up one shot out of the playoff. I don't, I don't feel bad for him in that regard. I think it just, everyone has those rounds of golf where they get crabby, they get really uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:11:08 And I've been that in that spot where like the rest of your group is taking a long time and you feel like you have to rush and it feels unfair. So I know that feeling, but man, at the highest level, it's just a kind of a surprising thing to see. With $400,000 on fire. Yeah. Speaking of which, and like at a point where the Ryder Cup points would have been extremely important for him.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I think he's probably in good shape to get a spot and we'll get there, but like that would have been a lot of points and possibly shifted them up into sixth place. Yeah. If I'm doing the quick math on the standing. So that seemed like he wouldn't have had to be heroic to slam the door on his Ryder Cup case today. You know, it's, it reguss to slam the door in his rider cup case today. You know, it's regressive. It got him in the points.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Three wins you're getting on the team, right? Three wins in one season and a close call at the Palmetto. Like, yeah, he's ninth coming into this week and was about two million, two thousand points behind sixth place, which was zander. So I think this is kind of an underrated golf course Especially the back nine. I think it just it forces you to hit golf shots Yeah, you got to you got to execute you got to drive the ball in the fairway small greens I think that's that's part of it is like there there is trouble out there There's some like next week at at a windum. There's not a whole lot of trouble out there
Starting point is 00:12:22 And and we'll see you know and granted are you, that's probably a better golf course next week. But I think I get so frustrated when down the stretch, there's no variance, there's nowhere to miss. Yeah. And here, there's a lot of variance, a lot of, like, I mean, 18, for instance, that's a challenging driving hole. Both those part threes are very,
Starting point is 00:12:44 like there's, there's shit everywhere everywhere watching 11 was awesome today. Yeah, I'll say underrated the PGA tour golf course, right? It's it's kind of it's kind of I don't love a ton of water hazards being the hazard, but at the highest level it usually makes a lot of sense. Well, I think you know, I don't think the time of year that they that they have this event does them any favors as far as course conditioning and all that is probably. it does them any favors as far as course conditioning and all that. It's probably super firm and a lot better test in September or October after the thunderstorms kind of die off. And it also just shows the difference that just a little bit of wind can make. First three days were just throwing darts all day. I don't know what the scoring average ended up being today, but at one point it was four
Starting point is 00:13:20 shots higher than it was on even the second hardest day. And that shot on 11 is only hard if the wind is there, right? Otherwise it's a pitching wedge to the middle of the green. And yeah, gosh, I just, just, the Harris' whole course management today was really frustrating to watch. Bryson was, Bryson was Bryson today just being a chode the whole day pretty much and didn't really have it and had a pissy attitude the entire day. It was obviously Harris' golf tournament to lose
Starting point is 00:13:45 and he lost it. 2.6 shots higher today. Oh, that's it. Yeah, interesting. There were a lot of 62s and 63s this week, which is just wild. Yeah, and I hadn't, you know, we were filming our tour of sauce season, so I didn't really watch a ton
Starting point is 00:14:00 of early week, but I was pretty plugged in today and you could kind of see some of those fairways running out. I think especially as the wind was picking up and things were starting to firm up that, you know, you mentioned that T-shot on 18 was was sneaky tough. They kept talking about a Bansers ball, but it was actually it was fun to watch them try to, you know, you had to hit a draw. You had to keep it off those bunkers, keep it off that right rough. And Hedeki was to Quilp Rice and living on the razor's edge there with a couple of those
Starting point is 00:14:23 approach shots into the uh into the the playoff greens but yeah i'm with you it was it was a very enjoyable back nine i think partially for the the shot in for a day of uh... watch a lot of guys like themselves on fire but uh... it was i i agree with you i've always come thought that too a little bit underrated for from a pj tour perspective a little bit of an underrated golf course i think also just i mean looking at the guys that were involved, running it down, answer Burns,
Starting point is 00:14:47 Matsuyama, English burger, Paul Casey, Kamsmith, wheels out, tours, Bryson, DJ, Pulitzer, Rory, Speed, Sheffler, web, Bob McIntyre. Like those are ball hitters. Fucking scud. Yeah, yeah, it's, if we're talking about courses that kind of give us a reprieve
Starting point is 00:15:04 from Bob McGaudes, this is one, which I mean, Bryson's up there, but Bryson did. It doesn't hit a lot of drivers on this golf course. Yeah. And the numbers check out, too. It's a course that emphasizes approach play more than it does driving distance compared to a normal PGA to workhorse in that regard. It's fun to see a golf course that somebody, like those three varying styles that you saw
Starting point is 00:15:23 in the playoff are able to compete. And Bryson right there, of course, and Harris English right there. It's hard for it to really feel like a truly elevated event, and it's an event that's not going to be a WGC anymore, which we'll get to by the end of this. Kona the next level. I can't tell if it's getting demoted or promoted to a playoff event. That's a good sign for the status of the schedule. You know what, I think we might be living in the world,
Starting point is 00:15:47 just real quick, we might be living in the world of like, where everything's an elevated event. It's possible nothing's an elevated event. That kind of seems like the whole problem with the PJ Tours schedule. But lots of good stuff in the PJ Tours schedule too, which I'm sure we'll get to it. It's overall very positive.
Starting point is 00:16:01 I agree. I would say also Hadecki making a playoff without while losing 1.4. Then it didn't make a pass. overall very positive. I would say. I would say also Hadecki making a playoff without with while losing 1.4. Literally didn't make a putt. Strokes to the field and putting this week. He actually had a good putting day today in route to the 63, but yeah, I just can't putt and it's amazing. I mean, it's funny that that's even amazing. Even mildly of a shocking statement that like, you know, he shot 63, he actually putt it pretty decent too. Well, if you know props them for showing up and plan well
Starting point is 00:16:28 this week too on the heels of. It could be exhausted. Yeah, it could be a pretty exhausting week in Tokyo as well. It's fun to watch, man. I mean, I know this is, we've kind of said this about a bunch of guys, but you need to have the majors just add so much context for these guys, right? I mean, you just, when Hadecki's out there now,
Starting point is 00:16:44 like you just look at him in a completely different way, just knowing that he's a major champion, master champion, he just has so much more context about him. I've never really, I don't know, I've never really felt too much about him, one way or the other. He's just, obviously, he's among the probably five best ball strikers in the world,
Starting point is 00:17:02 but you just have never really felt all that much, but seeing him in the playoff today after everything we've seen from him this year, it's like, oh, come on, Adecki, you like this? Got some grub at that. Yeah, it's great. So good for him.
Starting point is 00:17:13 That's well deserved. Adecki was number one in Strokes Game to Proach in round three by almost two shots. Then was number one again in approach to green in round four by point eight shots. So like over the course of the weekend, the stroke scan approach for him was, I don't even, I can't even do the math on on who was even second in that part. As far as how badly he blew the field away. Speaking of strokes gained and a potential, you know, all shot partner for Hadecki
Starting point is 00:17:41 Cam Smith. Yeah. We talked about the putting this week. I was trying to be sideways. Before we go into the meltdown today, we talk about the putter. Sure. First, because he had what? He had 93 putts this week. He had 18 putts in 18 holes. 18 putts in round two, which is obviously very clearly incredible. But what also what Strokes Kane tells us, he did not have the best putting day of the field that week.
Starting point is 00:18:05 How many times did you chip in that day? I don't know. He must have hold at least three from off the green, but 18 puts is just a very comical number to see it around. Ty's BGH or whatever. Neil was saying he's had, he kind of average, he was like 36, 37 around. So, it came Smith, the four rounds, 24 puts, 18 puts 18 puts 26 puts 25 puts. That's not a lot of puts.
Starting point is 00:18:27 And there's small another small green little ask reads but still that's wild. Which gets us to his meltdown. Also Kim Smith was negative stroke scan approach this week, which is like it's harder to do than stroke scan putting. I think some of that though was was just today like he Cause he was in really good shape, stroke, skin, approach. Three of his four rounds were negative, negative on the week in stroke, skin.
Starting point is 00:18:50 But yeah, he cost himself two shots immediately on that last hole, which, gosh, they were talking about this window that he had up there. And the cameraman has an earpiece clearly cause he just pans up directly to the side and I was like, yo, there is not a window up there. What was he seeing?
Starting point is 00:19:07 I don't know. This is kind of the definition of one of those moments where it's like, listen, these guys are professional golfers, professional caddies. There has to be something that they're seeing that we're not seeing on TV. So I reserve some sort of benefit of the doubt, but from where I was sitting, it was a very like,
Starting point is 00:19:23 holy shit, dude. What are you doing? what are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? He's trying to win the golf tournament. He didn't want to go to a playoff. He's trying to win the golf tournament. I mean, your best case scenario out of there
Starting point is 00:19:34 is the best to playoff tournament. Which before he even got up there, the rules of fish that was waiting there for him and pointing out the option of TIO relief. I don't know if you caught that. Like literally as they're setting the bag down, the rules of fish was pointing out and pointing out the option of TIO relief. I don't know if he caught that, but literally as they're setting the bag down, the rules official's pointing out, pointing out could have TIO relief.
Starting point is 00:19:49 The official's rules is ball back out in the fairway. Just drop it somewhere in there, it's good man. Gosh, that ball hitting, I've been there where it hits the tree and you just know your ball's OB. Like, he makes the look over his shoulder to see the ball go OB. That was very tough, especially because he punches the next one out,
Starting point is 00:20:05 chips it up to give me range. Almost makes it. Yeah. And then it makes what would have been the par to miss the playoff. I don't know if there was some confusion. Like it didn't sound like it from his post-round comments. Like was there any confusion on, you know, what Harris was doing or maybe thought he needed birdie or par wasn't going to be good enough?
Starting point is 00:20:21 I don't know. Yeah, it's wild. It's true, who could say that? That was a very, very wild decision. If you guys that kind of leaked oil today, Dustin Johnson, Holter, Scotty Sheffler, you're kind of all within striking distance of top five at least and kind of faded a little bit today.
Starting point is 00:20:43 I do want to give Rory a shout out. Well, 66, 66 on the weekend. To not win. To not win. That officially... Heating. Oh, I hit the wrong button, usually solid as it charged. That's officially in McKenzie Hughes.
Starting point is 00:20:59 And it's actually, well granted, it's only a part 70, which I know the Honda was, I think, is also part 70, but you finish 66, 66, 66, three in a row, Friday through Sunday. One and a half McKenzie Hughes'. If you guys had a guess where Rory is, the FedEx cup right now, what would you guess? 19th.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Yeah, I was gonna say like 17. 25th. Okay, that feels about right. I mean, it's still been like, by the measure of a normal person It's you know bit of a very solid year. Will he make the tour championship for sure? I think he will yeah, I would think so too, but that's his source bowl. We're the question. Was it Liberty National? Caves Valley and
Starting point is 00:21:41 Yeah, I guess those are the only two. I don't have a time to share about Kays Valley, but Liberty National has played a bunch. I'm sure he'll play well. Kays Valley is the Faws, maybe. It's like Quo Hollow style Faws. This was the cam Smith quote, by the way, after that shot, he said, yeah, there was a little gap up there. I had to hit like a medium flight draw and I tried to hit it.
Starting point is 00:22:01 I mean, I wanted to win. I didn't want to chip out and leave my chances and Harry's hands. He was still 16 under at the time. I wanted to make sure I had a good look at Bernie and I just didn't execute it. Which on one hand, like every bone of my body's like, fuck yeah, man. I respect the hell out of you.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Is sick. The other hand, it's like that might have cost you like a half a million dollars. That's interesting. So good for, I mean, seriously, good for him for going for it because if he would have pulled it off, it would have been probably among the more impressive shots I've ever seen in my life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:35 And I'll give shout, credits of CBS crew, they were, they were not second guests. They were first guests in that very much. Usually they're quick to second guests. It, you know, when ball goes in the water, fell to the ball and I'm saying, what, what is he doing? I do love with Nance. He doesn't do it often. He, he, he, he, he, he reserves it. He keeps it up his sleeve for moments
Starting point is 00:22:53 where he's, he knows he's dead right. And it always makes me laugh when he, he gets into like, even he gets into analyst mode. Just like, yeah, you know, you got to, got a second guess now. That was, that was a, That was a pretty interesting choice there. I was listening on the radio, my head was on the radio, we're a little bit,
Starting point is 00:23:10 be followed as well. The chief, Earl Forsey, total pro. Of course. Was this before after FALTO commented on the 17 year old? It was before. It was before. That was questionable. It was on brand.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Grayson Murray asked. Not good. Bryson, can we talk about Bryson's golf for now? Bryson had a lot of, we've been, keep talking about the sketch show. I think you should leave. Bryson had a lot of, I don't even want to be around anymore. Energy on that back then.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Front nine, he chipped in on, what was that five? And then just had zero emotion after it. It was like, this dude is in a crabby, crabby mood today. And I'm assuming he blew off media. I'm assuming for the fourth straight day. He was not listed on the transcript. So I would have to assume so. He'd that.
Starting point is 00:23:57 That would have been really enjoyed reading about what excuses he would have had to do for today. He didn't yell for again this week. Didn't yell for again this week. Got't yell for again this week got called out by a bunch of the crabby euros. Blondie for sure. Blondie. Bird Vistberger at Vortomo.
Starting point is 00:24:11 And are he all called him out? Didn't yell for again today, which I mean, it's rare to get those two 1% events in the same week. And obviously this is something that's very controversial. Yeah, it's a disappointing you're bringing it out. It's unfortunate that you're bringing it out. His fellow players brought that up. You know Bob McIntyre in the field. I would like to see Bob Bobby Mac go up to him on the range, put a finger in his chest.
Starting point is 00:24:37 So come on mate. You know, we don't do that out here. Yeah. This is such a... I truly can't tell if this is a bit that people are upset about this, if it's just me. Well, it's just such a message that he's, it is, but it's so much more. He's so much more. He's, it shows that you think you're bigger than the game and that he's such a piece of shit. And like I think I've, like I've had so many people
Starting point is 00:24:59 be like, you're way too hard on Bryce and you're way too hard on Bryce and for the last three or four years, has it been yelling from the rooftops. This is a truly fucking bad human being. He's a legitimately awful person. And he just keeps, when somebody shows you their true colors, let them. Right?
Starting point is 00:25:18 Well, he did his whole after he made Bogey on 15 today, the camera followed him to the walking off the green turns to the camera and like mockingly waves and smiles at the camera as in like, oh, you're following me again after trying to catch me in a bad moment that's bad for my brand. And even the caddy kind of looked over like, oh fuck, whatever I signed up for here. It was just tough.
Starting point is 00:25:41 The ruling, the ruling he got early in the round with the fence was tough, but I think by all technical aspects, part of the rules, his ball, rested underneath the property boundary or the fence, temporary fence, and it was in by like a fraction of a dimple according to of course, Kentacket gets the ruling yet again.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Every time something bracing related happens, Kentacket is there. And so he standing on the car path and this nearest point of really, it feels wrong that the nearest point of relief would relieve you from a ball that's basically up against offense and out of bounds. But because the nearest point would be out of bounds, you get relief in the car path. But I guess it is what it is. That was a lot of people were yelling at the TV when
Starting point is 00:26:23 that happened, but that wasn't Bryson's fault. The rules official gave him that option, so which was probably right anyways. Anyways, Bryson played like absolute shit. She had 41 on the back on a part 35. Yeah, it was 31, 30, the two days prior. They mentioned it on there, but it felt a ton like, Tory Pines. I mean, it on there, but it felt a ton like Torrey Pines.
Starting point is 00:26:45 I mean, it was like, did he pick the wrong club in a lot of spots and all that? Yes. He also did get some like horrific bounces, but also that, I mean, that's, you know, that's just kind of golf. And so constantly seeing him as like the, I can't believe I just got that bounce guy
Starting point is 00:27:01 is pretty on brand, because that guy sucks. And so you get to hear that. You get to hear that. That's a full point. That's what that felt pointed at me. As a, yeah, yeah. We're probably not gonna say that. As a mathematician.
Starting point is 00:27:13 As a mathematician. As a mathematician. As a mathematician. As a mathematician. As a mathematician. As a mathematician. As a mathematician. As a mathematician.
Starting point is 00:27:20 As a mathematician. As a mathematician. As a mathematician. As a mathematician. As a mathematician. As a mathematician. As a mathematician. As a mathematician. As a mathematician. As like he's a junk scientist. I mean, what a fucking idiot. Like truly. We even got to the idiot part yet, which-
Starting point is 00:27:29 He's living in a TikTok house in Plano. He looks like Barry Bonds with the size of his head. He should, he's sweating in all the, I mean, just put it together, folks. He should get the Barry Bonds earring. That would complete the eat. The Barry Baud's very mistake. With that, with that.
Starting point is 00:27:48 But remember when we wanted to do that as a as a pouch of misery, getting the clip on Barry Baud's earring? I think Bryson's probably just like very fried of being in the spotlight. And that's all his own fault and all of this. He never has to be famous. All of this has snowballed to a point where it just seems like he's truly really fucking miserable.
Starting point is 00:28:08 And I have a little bit of empathy for that. I feel bad that that that looks like it really sucks. It doesn't it doesn't look like it's fun to be Bryson right now. Here in Shane you just pointed me to some of Shane Ryan's tweets. Yeah. Him talking about following Bry Bryce on that back nine and just like, I mean, Shane used the word bullied. He said like, dude, it's just people who think
Starting point is 00:28:31 they're being funny, just constantly firing Brooks shots at him and all of that stuff, which yes, there are a million things Bryce and says, I'm not apologizing for Bryce and I will stay. Very consistent on my record of, he seems like a massive tool. I don't wanna spend any time with, but it just seems like it's all really aggregated
Starting point is 00:28:52 and snowballed into something that just looks like a really pretty miserable existence the last couple of months. I do agree that that stuff's ugly. All that's ugly, but I think he just got all this negative energy about him anyway, right? Totally. And we have of course, Brooke Bryson saying,
Starting point is 00:29:11 like, oh, I think it's absolutely flattering what they're doing. They can keep calling me that all day if they want to. I've got no issue with it. And then an audible from a female yelling out, let's go, Brooke see, just a big pause. He just goes, good one. That's just kind of funny. Kind of, but he's very clearly his butt hurt with it.
Starting point is 00:29:29 And like, of course he is. But what's he supposed to say? Like, no, this really bothers me. Please stop. Like, you think that's gonna help? Well, just, but his, to your point of, to your Barry Bond's point, his mood swing from his Saturday post-round interview
Starting point is 00:29:41 to like him moping around the front nine today. It's like, hmm, hmm, dude. Honestly, guys, like him, him not, you know, maybe it was, you know, maybe he did have COVID or whatnot, like, maybe he didn't, right? And maybe the like, he's been a different player the last, however long since Olympic testing ramped up. Yeah. It's, it's, it's crazy what that man will and will not put in his body, which we'll get to that.
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Starting point is 00:31:14 That was pretty solid effort. That was really good. Anything else from FedEx? I think it's just interesting. I guess we can talk about this in a bit, but to see who the guys that are playing FedEx versus the guys that are playing Reno, like Gary Woodland's out in Reno.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Really? Yeah. That's wild. Truly. He is not a good season. He's 20th on the Ryder Cup standings. Playing Barracuda. Maybe we should take a look at the Ryder Cup standings and calculate it, huh?
Starting point is 00:31:39 Should we be counting majors from 2019 in this? Hmm. Thank you TC. I did not know that. I have got the word to be the other guys battling it out to move up a spot in the rankings, in the right of cup rankings out in Reno. But you wanna talk a little women's Olympics.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Yeah, at least. That was delightful. And you know what, I wanna give, I just wanna say, I felt like that was rapid fire golf that we were watching, at least the final round there. It was exactly how I would want a golf broadcast to look. It was, the pace was proper.
Starting point is 00:32:16 They were just so dialed into the action of the tournament and the announcers were not, this is not a backhead of the government. They were not putting you to sleep with the action, right? Usually they just, they just thrown on during normal PGA tour broadcast or whatever. This just felt elevated. I wanna, I wanna ask the question, I guess, we got a good question in relation to this.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Rick Wetherby said, why did it feel like the women's Olympic golf had more juiced than the men? Have my theory, but no one here you guys thought. To me, I think it's fairly simple just in that. There's so many men on the record of like saying, how much they don't care about it, right? I mean, the women, you never see that.
Starting point is 00:32:51 It seems like they are absolutely thrilled to be there. I think the women's game in general is probably, I wouldn't have to double check this, but it seems a little more just worldly week to week, anyways, I mean, so many more countries involved, so many more tournaments around the world that just seems like more of a global, a global game on the women's side anyways. And the Olympics feels like kind of a natural culmination of that, right? And so when, when all your superstars are totally bought in, like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:33:18 that's going to make a big difference. Opposed to someone like Rory who, for reasons, I think all of us completely understand, he's from a very complex place, like he just totally was so apathetic about being there in the lead up and you know, seemed like he had a good time and played well and all of that. But yeah, I mean, that makes a difference when you're, when not only are world number whatever one two three four skipping a bunch of people out with COVID. I mean a lot of people you know Dustin Johnson Brooks people just like nah no smell ya not interested. I'll see you guys in Memphis. Also that like that's gonna make a big fucking difference. Yeah. It's it's right like it's not it's not like it lines up well with the LPGA tour schedule either. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Right. We're in France for the major. Then they went over there, then they've got the women's skydish open this week, women's British open next week. I mean, there's a lot of big ass tournaments going on for them. They're major seasons a little bit later in the summer. And yet they all showed up with Bells on. I think it speaks, a big factor is just that
Starting point is 00:34:27 the LPGA tour and Women's Golf in general is not bathing in just an embarrassment of riches, right? They have more for them. They have big tournaments, they have big majors. Their majors stand out so much more than the regular tour event, regular tour events. The PGA tour and men's golf in general has just had so much money influxed into it
Starting point is 00:34:47 and so many big events that like the Olympics feels like a stop on tour. Whereas for the women, it feels like something that, it just feels like a legit thing you have to think about for the men's side is like, there's like $15 million up for grabs here this year, like it benefits me not at all to go to Japan for that. Like, why would I do that?
Starting point is 00:35:10 Versus for the women's game, they have the million dollar price that comes with the race to the CME glow, but it is, and not to say that they do it all for marketability, but for sponsorship wise and their marketability as athletes being Olympian is a bigger deal than it would be to men. Yeah. That fair to say.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Yeah. So it's easier to get into it in that regard. I felt like I was watching something significant for each person that was going through it and I didn't feel that on the men's side. Except for Team Rose. For sure. For sure.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Nobody will ever get more mileage out of a medal than he did. But he also had won the FedEx Cup. Like he had, you know, cashed in a ton of money. Some simple questions from Connor J. Wilden over under 10 and a half gold medals for Nelly Corda. God, I'm gonna have to think on that. I put this in the agenda when I thought Niel was gonna be on the show tonight.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Also from Nided, that would take her to what? About 20, 20, 65, something like that. Nided Puss, where does this gold medal rank for Nelly among her 12 majors again? Sorry, that's- Well, I think for Niel. Yeah, I almost feel like we should give Neil this one to make the race a little more interesting.
Starting point is 00:36:07 That's fine. So she's at 2 now. Sure. I think going back to the actual golf, like talking about. I'm more, baby. There were a lot of, like a lot of players involved that final day.
Starting point is 00:36:17 And a lot of like non superstars, right? Which almost made it kind of interesting. I think that was cool on the men's side. I didn't watch a ton of the men's side. I know I will probably keep saying this, but we were on the road, so it didn't get to watch everything we wanted to watch. But having some kind of random names up there
Starting point is 00:36:32 and having CT pan get a medal, and some of that stuff is kind of interesting, especially given the context of stars kind of opting out and what the Olympics means and all that stuff. But we saw a lot of that with a DD Ashok and some of the people that were up there, it was like, man, a medal would be kind of a life changer for some of these people, which is really cool.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I think, you know, on that front too, it definitely helps that you've got three things to play for. I've talked about that before. I thought the core, I know it was hot as shit there with that tsunami rolling in, or the typhoon, all that stuff, not tsunami. Tropical storm. Tropical storm. But yeah, it was, it was, uh, the course was like just watching
Starting point is 00:37:11 it. It was firm. It was fast. It looked wonderful. It played that way for the women. Yeah. Yeah. And they definitely, I thought they moved up, they moved up a couple of teas, which was, made it so much more interesting and like that short par four was so much fun to watch. Yeah, they did a great job setting like to checking in on like that 17th hole of like, hey, here's you can also play in the 17th. Here's what the leaders, little preview. Yes, here's what the leaders are going to face in the opportunity that's going to come in the final group. So like she just made a two here. If you cover this bunker and hold the green, you can do it too. And like bailing right was not a good place to be because you're chipping down hill. All that
Starting point is 00:37:47 stuff was working. And it just speaks to like watching the men play the little bit that we were able to watch. Like it was just you could spin it and stop it anywhere you want to. It was just a typical, it was the on the easy side of PGA tour courses. Whereas the way the women spin the ball and the the launch angle that they put it in at how well that course played compared to how it did for the men, just speaks to a lot of what, you know, the issue. It's first of all, it's awesome to see men and women play the same course back, back, weeks. Pinehurst 2014 was fantastic
Starting point is 00:38:17 and how that hasn't been replicated in any British opens, US opens, anything like that. I still don't understand because it's really cool to watch how different a course can play for two different types of skills. And yeah, it speaks even more to a lot of the issues that a lot of people have with equipment, I think, just seeing the playability of those two courses. But back to Nelly. Yeah, Nelly. I mean, I think first thing I think is her making the double on seven and
Starting point is 00:38:40 then coming back with just ripping off three straight buries right after that. Tom Manskey. It could have gone sideways for her right there. And that's where I feel like, incorrect me if I'm wrong, I feel like rooting for Nelly used to, that's where it went wrong. Yeah. I think you said that on Twitter. It used to be a very stressful experience and now it just looks like, she kind of looks
Starting point is 00:39:01 like a murderer now. Yeah. I mean, she just looks very calm and I remember even at the Cambridge, which like she kind of looks like a murderer now. Yeah, I mean, she just looks very calm. And I remember even at the Cambridge, which was her kind of her first win of the year and her first win kind of here on American soil. Of course, we were doing the week in the life that week. So we were kind of right there as she was given her post-round press conference around the 18th green
Starting point is 00:39:19 film and that. I mean, she was like emotionally kind of shook by this idea of like holding on on a Sunday and claiming a title. And even in the short time since then, that was February. Like, God, it really doesn't look like she feels that anymore. It feels like she, she's cracked the code a little bit. One comfortably in Michigan, of course, won the major, the KPMG Women's PGA in Atlanta,
Starting point is 00:39:41 the following week, and now a gold medal. It's, it's the summer of Nelly and it feels like, it still feels like there's room for room proof. Like her skill set is so different than anyone else is out there and as far as the shots she can hit, the distance she hits it, how well she puts it to, like it, gosh, it is, I don't know, this does not feel like a blip on the radar.
Starting point is 00:40:03 This feels like it could be a thing for many years. This might be a wildly unfair question, but is there a, like, is there an equivalent in the male game as far as like what she does great compared to the rest of the field or where she kind of like stands out? You know what I'm trying to say? Well, it's hard to tell because we don't have the stats with women's game, right?
Starting point is 00:40:22 I'm trying to make this comp on Twitter and it's a bit of a reach, but I think it kind of works, and that Nelly is wrong, and Lydia Coe is Jordan's beef, and that Nelly is finally fully realizing her talent, has won her first major, is clearly, if there was a stroke-skinned stat, would clearly be number one on that, just like Ram is. And also not, at least to my eye,
Starting point is 00:40:42 I probably don't watch this closely, as you do it, even, but not super top-heavy in one stat. It's not like she just bombs my eye like I probably don't watch as closely as you do it even but not Super top heavy in one stat right now. So like she just bombs it and I don't know fix apart golf courses like just seem That's kind of why I ask is like it just seems like she's just Really fucking solid at everything now. He's gamer mind's in urnials That's that's interesting. The tempo the height the trajectory all it kind of, you know, long-learn wood-pudding stroke. I don't know why I can't get that comp out of my head. Shit, she shut 62 with a double on eight.
Starting point is 00:41:12 She had to get advantage of it. I said this on Twitter too. She's like leaning on wedges and stuff. Oh my gosh, she fan that one. It's legit like three feet right of the pin. Her accuracy, again, it's not a bomb and gouge kind of thing. Like, she just hits it, gosh, her swing is maybe the best golf swing in the world.
Starting point is 00:41:30 And a question here at Huge Bills fan. I feel like Nelly is a star. Congrats on the Josh Allen extension. I feel like Nelly is a star who has drawn me into the women's game on a diehard golf fan. What do you think the LPGA could do to try and use her start them to grow the game? Also, do you think she has the potential to grow the game like Tiger, but not as much for the LPGA?
Starting point is 00:41:50 I think they can do just let her just let her just yeah, just showcase her golf, I think right? It's probably the biggest the biggest part. I mean, I always struggle with, it's isn't shot at anyone, but I just don't know the court is at all. I don't necessarily know what their personality is. I don't know if they're kind of like, if they have a ton of outgoing personality. I mean, part of what made Tiger so, comparing her to like Tiger from a marketability standpoint
Starting point is 00:42:20 is so fun. Absolutely ridiculous, but there was so much more context and personality and everybody could kind of almost like project whatever they wanted on to tiger, right? And Nelly and Jessica both kind of seemed like absolutely great delightful people. I don't know that much about them but probably just kind of your your typical golf prodigies, right? And I think it's wildly unfair to try to turn someone like that into all of a sudden, like a film Nicholson.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Like, why don't you just be like, be entertaining? Just be like a massive entertainer. Like, that's such an unfair thing to ask. It's such a different thing. Yeah. It's very different than like her being trained her whole life to get the ball in the hole.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Exactly. And she's very good at that. She's not a dominant personality. She's not as far as I know, super funny or super, like that's just not very well-adjusted. Yeah, that's just not gonna be the reality, right? However, I think that they would be, it would be very silly to not include either both Jessica and Nelly
Starting point is 00:43:18 or, you know, Nelly or someone else in the next match or in a match. No, I totally agree. We have to get something mixed on the, like, entertainment-wise, that is gonna draw people totally agree. We have to get something mixed on the entertainment wise, that is gonna draw people into the women's game to get it outside the normal mainstream, get it off the golf channel.
Starting point is 00:43:31 The golf channel. That's what I was gonna say. I mean, to circle all that back to, you know, what can they do? It's like, just keep putting into context how fucking good she is at golf. Yes. Show her golf skills, right?
Starting point is 00:43:40 And that's what I think everybody on the LPJ would say too. And they'd say the same thing about Ginny and Co. And all these other people is like, man, just show how good they are at what they're doing. And you have to put it in context with other players and with male players and with amateurs. And like, it's one of those things that like, I mean, once you see it, you can't unsee it, right? It's, we got a very provocative question. I'm sorry, I didn't save this one, but somebody asked almost almost skipping past the first part of it,
Starting point is 00:44:06 but which course would make the most sense for Nelly to play on the PGA tour, similar to how Onika played at Colonial? Probably similar to the ones that... Head goes like Harbor Town. Yeah, I would say, uh, Wildlife or Colonial. Colonial. Yeah, probably similar from the Onika and Michelle we you know are we there yet
Starting point is 00:44:27 with now is that a ridiculous thing to even recommend or explore I think would want yeah I mean I think she need focus on winning women's majors and dominating and all that right you know and then I think also like just just talking a little bit more about the competition. Like watching Lydia, I mean, she, a couple of things go differently like when she hit the flag on that approach, she was freaking locked in. It's been fun watching them do this year.
Starting point is 00:44:55 I mean, that's, and it shows no signs of letting up either. I can't wait to watch. Tournament, I mean, Ryder Cup of course, but Tournament, I'm kind of mostly forward to is the women's open at Carnegie State. Just speaking personally, I've probably watched women's British open. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:45:13 That's actually the name of it. There you go. But I've probably watched more women's golf this year than any previous year. And just seeing how the skills transfer is always really interesting. Because I do think partially because they are so
Starting point is 00:45:32 freaking good at it like a lot of women play fairly robotic golf, right? I mean they they're so good at when they need to hit it 82 they hit it exactly 82 and when they need to drive in the middle of the fairway they drive it in the middle of the fairway and I think seeing whose skills transfer to links golf and bouncy weird crazy golf like I can't fucking wait to watch that. Going back to context, giving people like you've watched numerous tournaments at Karnu's D. Now this time you can watch, you know, similar shots and similar. And that's the entire women's golf major slate into the future looks like that. I mean, it is not entirely.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I mean, it's pine needles next year right for the US Women's Open, which is held a lot of US women's open and will be great. But like once they go to pebble, they're going to bolt us off, though, the LPGA, they're going to the old course, I think, for the, I'll, I'll tweet out a whole after the British open. I'll tweet out a whole future, future women's sites, but it's a lot to be, enough to be excited about. I think one other point I had was just disappointing week for the South Koreans.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Yeah. You know, they had Jin Youngco, T9, the Young Kim, T9, HJ Kim, T15, and then NB, T23. So certainly not the week that they were hoping for. Great shirts though. Yeah, oh, those were sick. It's low key been a quiet year, you know, half for the South Koreans and women's golf. And I think a lot of that speaks to COVID
Starting point is 00:46:53 and then kind of being, you know, some of them playing more in Korea to come back and just a lot more complications that come with world travel and that tour. But yeah, it's been a little bit of a power shift in 2021. But, Moni and Nami, yeah. Shout out to her, Winds of Silver Medal. She hit the first shot in playing in her whole country.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Hit the first shot of the Olympics. It's probably not a name that a lot of Americans are familiar with, hand up. I was not very familiar with it coming in this week. She's turned out seven wins on the Japan tour, and Tom Abbott made a great point on there too, was like, that's not a manipulators tour, like that's a really good tour in women's golf,
Starting point is 00:47:32 and she's I think 28th ranked in the world coming into this week, and we don't hear a name a lot in the States, but it's a pretty strong tour on the men's side as well. We should look at the world ranking. That's awesome. What a big year for Japanese golf. For real, so.
Starting point is 00:47:49 It's been a decade, NASA and Ename. Well, that's awesome. I had a DDShock mentioned her, but not a lot of it. Not a lot of Indian golfers doing big stuff on the world stage. That was awesome to see. She was also paired with Madeline. One of the days we were doing the Week in the Life,
Starting point is 00:48:04 just really enjoyed watching her, absolute pro. Bum, she didn't get a medal. But, and then of course, the shout out to Sean Sean, if she truly is retiring, that's I think the last we're gonna see of her, which is a huge bummer. Ten time winner on the LPGA for a bronze medalist in Rio, possibly the best quote on the LPGA,
Starting point is 00:48:23 just absolute menace bummed to see here go. A few opening around 74s that kind of, you know, make you think what if for Sean, Sean, you can sass their shot, opening's around 74 and they've each finished about five or six shots off the pace. Yep, so. On the Ashok note, India's prime minute,
Starting point is 00:48:41 anytime you get the attention of the prime minister, he tweeted out, well played, a DD golf, you've shown tremendous skill and resolve during Tokyo 2020, a medal is narrowly missed, but you've gone further than any Indian and blazed a trail, best wishes for your future endeavors. I always think it's cool when you have a country in some sport that is truly like,
Starting point is 00:48:59 yo, where is this coming from? Like this is not what we are known for in any way, like the attention that that garners in home countries is a very strong positive. We touched on this a little bit last week of the Olympics that like, the Olympics isn't, golfing Olympics isn't necessarily just for golf fans.
Starting point is 00:49:14 It's a total of the individual countries. And the programs that support these golfers from childhood on, that the Spanish golf federation is whatever their actual name is, is very responsible for John Rom's development, and that's number one player in the world. So I'm coming mostly around, I think, on golf and the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:49:36 I understand it better. I still don't think it's like, I still don't always know what I'm watching on the men's side in terms of what it means for greatness, but I have more appreciation for its role in the Olympics than I did when the Olympics started. Kind of like Rory. Yeah, I mean, I think it's, it's going to just always kind of boil down to money, right? I mean, as long as there's as much money as there is in the men's game, then it's going to kind of take a backseat in the men's game. And you know, it's just funny to me that's what it is, I guess.
Starting point is 00:50:02 That the PGA tour is, is that the fourth, fourth like they were the ones that were really really really lobbying for it and they seem to be You know, it's their players that are the ones that are kind of hey, whatever, you know, it's just weird and of course needless to say mixed event in this or a team event of some kind would be Watch much much more entertaining. I think you know some people will point to exciting finishes of in both to say like hey See, no, this is great, but like I think, you know, some people will point to exciting finishes in both to say, like, hey, see, no, this is great. But like, I think that it is, it's, you can't just sit back and hope for a close and exciting finish because you don't always get that in 72 whole stroke play tournaments. It happened both times this week, but we see a lot of top players get together a lot of the time and it does not equal that exciting.
Starting point is 00:50:41 So I'll say it one more time, just do like a 54-hole stroke play and then do, you know, and that's the top six or eight countries advance to this. And you have a team competition after that. Or you have different, swimming has how many events, right? You have a, a ult shot, you know, discipline,
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Starting point is 00:51:51 it's just too much golf, too much money, too much everything. You just can't just everybody happy. You get the WGC Olympics. That's what they seem like they have an opening now. Are you taking your energy group host, Alina? Well, I think the, just, you're just looking ahead. It's like golf nasty now, but actually watching the women play at Riv,
Starting point is 00:52:09 will be awesome. Yeah, oh, totally. It's in 28. So where do you guys wanna go next? We have other golf. We have, we can go back to Bryson. We could do some, be some Ryder Cup stuff. Other golf wise, we've got Erick Van Royen,
Starting point is 00:52:24 getting out in front, out in Reno right now. He's currently a plus 46, just birdied the 13th hole. He's two ahead of Andrew Putnam and four or five ahead of a slew of other guys. Big day for Woodland, 12 points. A lot of people, a couple of questions we got. Like, hey, why does they stick to one stable for the event they run? Why do they stick it in an opposite field event?
Starting point is 00:52:49 Buh, blah, blah. Again, kind of going back to what we've talked about a lot on the PGA tour. The PGA tour is full of 48 different tournaments. It is not full of, it is not one overarching tour that, you know, decides, let's do this format and this one, this format and this one, it comes down to sponsors, what they want to get out of the tournament. And not it, it, the tour can't necessarily go to a sponsor and be like, all right, you got to fall in the sword and you got to be the team event. You got to fall in this and you got to be stable for it because we need this kind of balance. A lot of sponsors for a lot of reasons want four
Starting point is 00:53:20 rounds of stroke play. And that's probably why we see that a lot. So it's not something that they just decide, all right, we'll stick this in the opposite field event. It's, you know, barracuda, and it's a long time been a stable for an event, and that, you know, I don't know what to attribute that to. It's a cool kind of variable, but they're more to credit for that than they are the PGA tour, I'd say. I'm also pumping my brakes on different formats until I become a little more invested in the Zich Classic.
Starting point is 00:53:45 You know what I mean? Every year. It's fair. Really leading before the Zurich change, I think a lot of, I'll say us, a lot of people were riding a lot harder for like 30s. To be more team golf, there needs to be more different formats, blah, blah, blah, and I have been pretty apathetic about the Zurich Classic. So hand up on that one that it's, that hasn't solved all the problems.
Starting point is 00:54:05 That's probably a pretty good segue to the schedule stuff. You wanna do that first? Can we get to the junk scientist first? Sure. I feel like people are ready to hear about this. This feels like a long time ago, but from earlier part of the week, from co-op orders at CBS.com,
Starting point is 00:54:23 Deshambo said he was not vaccinated when he contracted COVID-19 and that the virus created some fatigue and congestion as he quarantined at home. He also lost eight to 10 pounds and five miles an hour on his ball speed. Nevertheless, he said he does not regret being vaccinated prior to the event in Tokyo. And of course, he does not regret not being vaccinated. Whatever I said, maybe, okay, correct. Does not regret being unvaccinated prior to event in Tokyo. DeChambo said, told ESPN on Wednesday, the vaccine doesn't necessarily prevent it from happening. We'll get there.
Starting point is 00:54:57 He says, I'm young enough. I'd rather give the vaccine to people who need it. I don't need it. I'm a healthy, young individual that will continue to work on my health. Clinical trials of the Moderna vaccines have consistently demonstrated high. This is from WebMD.
Starting point is 00:55:15 High effectiveness against COVID-19, but now a large real-world study confirms that a Pfizer, biotech, and Moderna vaccines are more than 95% effective in preventing confirmed infection. So I think, all right, where I fall out, it's certainly Bryson's right to not get the vaccine. I think he's well within his rights on that. I don't think that he needs to be like
Starting point is 00:55:42 spewing misinformation, right? Of saying that, you know, I would rather give the vaccine to people who need it, which infers that there's a shortage. There's a shortage here in the United States, right? Which is very, very, very much not the case. I'm totally with you. Listen, man, if you don't want to get it, don't get it, that's fine, but like they're... I'm not down with that.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Well, that's... It's a public, the point is that this is a contagious virus, right? Like, do I care necessarily about like Bryson's health if he chooses not to get it? If it was that simple, I'd be like, that's fine. That's your own personal decision. You miss the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:56:16 I will not shed a tear for you, but like, that's fine. But it has never been about how it's going to treat like young healthy people, right? It's about the spread of it. The Delta variant here is more contagious than the Alpha variant. That's what's currently going on. He dismisses all of that to be the most selfish you could possibly be about it. To say, I'm healthy, I don't need it.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Then also misinformation about the availability of the vaccines on top of it. What a complete asshole. Total asshole like that's such an asshole move and it really, really pissed me off. Like for a lot of people that have, you know, like, I feel like they've done their part when it comes to this virus and worn masks and gotten vaccinated to help prevent of it. Like to hear those quotes, like just,
Starting point is 00:57:00 like it just almost broke me. Like it was so frustrating. Let's just go to the show, you're like, how big of a, you know, like I guess I'm not frustrated about it because, hey, I think the guys are fucking idiot anyway. And like I wouldn't take anything that he says with you. But as a public figure, people will.
Starting point is 00:57:14 No, totally. And that's, and I think that's what I'm saying is like, yo, just don't open your mouth at all, dog. Like just, just like, you're not talking to the media anyway. Why talk to them about this? Yeah, and he hasn't since. He kind of stepped in here. He, man, I don't know who,
Starting point is 00:57:30 yeah, he's got some questionable advice around him, I think. Or I don't think he listens to anything. I don't know who's not telling him to just not do this stuff. But yeah, again, I'm not trying to defend Bryson on any of this stuff, but what is the PJ Tour? I think, said a number that I think 70% of players have vaccinated. So there's another 30% of players who like also should be in that same sentence then, right? I mean, I know they're not out there talking about it, but it's, I don't know, man, it
Starting point is 00:57:59 is a weirdly personal thing that I can have my own personal massive disagreements with, but it is really hard if it's not a government mandated thing to have to go do. It's hard to tell somebody to just stop being a dipshit when it's his choice to totally be a dipshit. He has every right to be an asshole and we have every right to call him an asshole for it. That's where I net out on it. Like, yes, technically he does not require to do this, but that doesn't put him an asshole for it. That's where I net out on it. Yes, technically he does not require to do this, but that doesn't put him above criticism for it.
Starting point is 00:58:28 No, I agree. I, I, listen, the kid got the vaccination. I, I totally, I totally disagree, but also it's like, I don't know, it's a weird territory to wait. We live in an individualistic society. I think it's well within his rights. And I don't, I don't,
Starting point is 00:58:43 I don't, possibly the most individualist country in the most individualist society. Yeah, it's well within his rights. And I don't, I don't, possibly the most individualist country in the most individualist society. Yeah, and so, you know, so I think it, you know, at some point I think he's well within his right, not to, not to have it, but like you guys said, I'm, you know, I don't think, hey, I don't think it doesn't affect me
Starting point is 00:58:56 whether he has it or not. It affects all of us when he opens his mouth with pretty unfounded bullshit. Yeah, so. He also just, you know, tries to take the extremons of both sides of the coin by saying like, if you're vaccinated, it doesn't mean you can't get it. It's like, well, yeah, well, it's 95% effective in it. And also acting like he couldn't possibly be harmed from it.
Starting point is 00:59:15 There have been plenty of healthy, fit people that have died from this virus. So if you want to take the extreme end of, you know, the vaccinated part, you got to look at the extreme end of that side. Well, you can't play it all. To take that a step farther, it's not that, yeah, you can get it. That's not the deal. The fact is, you're very, very, very likely
Starting point is 00:59:33 to not have a bad experience, like a hospitalization with it. That's the key here. Yeah, you may get it, but it prevents the hospitalizations. So. I think, yeah, I mean, hopefully he's, I don't know. It's just, I it prevents the hospitalizations, right? So. I think, yeah. I mean, hopefully he's, I don't know. It's just, I know we keep saying this,
Starting point is 00:59:48 but it's his decision to whether he wants to get it or not get it. I obviously have my personal feelings on what he and everybody else should do, but as long as he's, you know, I guess accepting the massive consequences that come with not getting it, like missing the Olympics, then I don't really know what else to say.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Well, as it relates to what's going on in the NFL, currently with their vaccination policies and like looking ahead to the Ryder Cup as to the potential to throw out this game from a golf week article called that, they're trying to figure out what the rules are gonna be around COVID. They have it's pretty simple when it comes to PGA tour golf,
Starting point is 01:00:22 you test positive for it, You are forced to withdraw. In team event, that gets a lot more complicated. Options being considered as a main one, liches article. Options being considered include forfeiting effective players point in Sunday singles matches and possibly even having alternate players on site for each team. And it seems like they're kind of caught with their hands,
Starting point is 01:00:40 you know, totally. They kind of caught with their pants down of like, whoa, like this timeline on vaccination, we should get this figured out. Is like now, if we are totally, they kind of caught with their pants down of like, whoa, like this timeline on vaccination, we should get this figured out is like now, if we are going to have any kind of policy of any kind. On some level, it kind of feels like just don't have a policy because you're going to have tens of thousands of fans, you know, on site. They're aren't vaccinated.
Starting point is 01:01:00 You know, who are aren't vaccinated, right? And at this point, it's like, to me, what does it matter if the 12 guys in the team room and their caddies are, you know, 12 guys plus the assistant captain is everything. That's on them, right? That's what I keep coming back to you is like, dude, as long as this sounds so flippant and stuff, but it's like, yeah, if you don't want to get the vaccine, the vaccine, that's all you're progative. But like, yeah, if you get kicked out of the Ryder Cup, then I have no fucking sympathy for you. Oh, absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Yeah, PGA, bolster the rules, man. Do what you got to do, like I'm all for it, but yeah, people need to have some personal responsibility, I guess, in this. On that note, you want to talk about Ryder Cup? We'd love to. Sure. I want to give a shout out to our partners at BMW,
Starting point is 01:01:42 who are a global partner of the Ryder Cup and a partner of ours, and have kindly sponsored these segments throughout the course of the year, as we've talked about the Ryder Cup at every possible stop. How are Captain's picks shaping up on the US side? Have you, I gave you guys a little homework assignment to come up with your Captain's pick,
Starting point is 01:01:58 picks as of right now. These six are in, as of now, on points, Colin Moore-Calla, Dustin Johnson, Bryson, Capka, JT, and Xander, and as of the time recording, Colin Morecawa, Dustin Johnson, Bryson, Kepka, JT and Zander. And as of the time recording, this, the standings have not been updated. Speed is seventh. I was conceding a spot to him.
Starting point is 01:02:13 And Harris English at ninth prior to this week, I was also conceding a spot to him. You can convince me otherwise. So those are my, I think those eight fully on board with those. Fully on board with those. Close on me as well. Who are your four added picks? Before we go into the picks, just to read off kind of the next list,
Starting point is 01:02:30 this is seven through 20 here, is, so these are people not already qualified who are theoretically kind of, really, really heavily in contention for these six spots. Spieth, read, Harris, English, Patrick Cantelet, DB Stray Vibon, and Tony Fina Web Simpson, Scott Sheffler, Jason Kochrack, he's all in Bill Horshall, Phil Mickelson, Max Homa, Sam Burns and Will's Allatores.
Starting point is 01:02:54 I'm surprised Kochrack is still eligible. I thought he had taken up Saadi citizenship. That's going to be, God, that's going to really come back to Bite of Wood. PJ Tore doesn't grade of his release next year. And we're gonna get to that on the schedule. Uh, you know, I'm going, should we, should we all, should we go around the table? Who's, I'm gonna hear all, let's go, you can go first,
Starting point is 01:03:14 each if you want to try. You're, you're anxious to go. We're four things. I got, well, your team, you're, oh, so you're just gonna pick four shitty guys and fill in your team? Oh, absolutely not. I have four guys and I feel like rock solid about them. And you know what, I apologize to team Reed.
Starting point is 01:03:28 I apologize, you know, use golf facts, you can get at me. And we can have a dialogue about it on Twitter. Tron, or should I mean troll? Troll Carter, you know where to find me. So no offense to Reed, can't lay, Vinal, but I'm going burger. First form of it was I think burgers earned it. He's been so freaking solid since the restart last year.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Just like consistently one of the best players in the world played great this week. I think you know what you're getting out of him. Next, I'm going Scott Schaeffler from a Stroke's game perspective, from a length perspective. Kind of guy that I think his game sets up for whistling straights.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Plus, you know, those are two guys that I think you want to get some experience for. I think all the, you know, veteran stuff is complete bullshit. Next, I'm going Sam Burns. I think Sam Burns' game translates to Whistling Straits as well. Played really, really well throughout the year this year, coming in hot. And then last, I've got Will's Allataurus, who's in my opinion one of the top 15, 20 players in the world and there's no reason why he shouldn't be on the team. We had almost almost identical teams. Yeah. Yes. I also had spieth, also had Harris English,
Starting point is 01:04:36 also had Daniel Berger for all the reasons you mentioned, also had Scottie Sheffler for all the reasons you mentioned, also had Sam Burns for all the reasons you mentioned, but I did not have Zalatoris. I can't unsee some of the puts, and I don't wanna see him at the Ryder Cup. I think that's NC17 stuff that can't be put on broadcast TV. I had Web kind of a boring talk about like knowing what you're gonna get, just absolutely rock solid.
Starting point is 01:05:03 I know he hasn't been quite as good as he's been, you know, kind of earlier this year, but Web seems like a guy that, you know, when you are kind of in my hypothetical theoretical team, when you are injecting the Sheffler, Sam Burns, Daniel Burgers, you don't want all rookies. Harris English is of the world. Like I think Web kind of balances the scales a little bit. Interesting. I'm going to join you guys on Speak. I'm going to live in. Interesting. I'm gonna join you guys on speed.
Starting point is 01:05:25 I'm gonna live in there. I'm gonna join you guys on Harris English. Cantlay, gotta be on the team. The numbers just are impossible to ignore. He's one of the few guys that's paused over two strokes gain total of the past three months. He went to an own foursums at Role Melbourne. I think he's a great foursums partner
Starting point is 01:05:41 on a team that needs foursum players. Okay. Trilley, I'm really trying to think a step ahead on a team that needs force and players. Okay. Trilliet, I'm really trying to think a step ahead on, you know, how these pairings are going to come out in this extremely hypothetical scenario that has zero impacts on the team and will, of course, change over the next month. I'm also picking this team as if we're going to play this event next week. So I think it's important, right? Yeah. Scotty Shaffler, absolute force this year, does everything well, no weaknesses, his stroke
Starting point is 01:06:07 gain numbers are great over the last three months, even better over the last six months, should be a great course fit with some straights, say no more. Thank you, Sally. Appreciate it. Daniel Berger, straight vibe and criminally underrated player. People don't appreciate how good that guy is. Great stroke, gained over the past three months, six months as well. He's fourth among all Americans, including, again, all Americans over the last six months, six months as well. He's fourth among all Americans,
Starting point is 01:06:25 including, again, all Americans over the last six months in strokes gained fourth. So it's kind of a, he is the standard case for why the Ryder Cup rankings are so bad. And for my final pick, please say co-crack. You know, I checked in the beginning and let the table get around with some best. I'm all in. Jason Cograck. His game suits the court. Game suits the course wonderfully. He is one of the best Americans over the last three months. One of the best Americans over the last six months.
Starting point is 01:06:56 It's checking a lot of boxes for me. This is kind of that one that he's obviously going to need to finish this year playing some great golf finish, the playoffs playing some great golf and kind of beat down the door to get on the team. I don't think there's enough there to actually make these cappins that don't have any balls actually pick him over Reed. So, do I read Ann Webb and Fina and Zalatoris? Is that so?
Starting point is 01:07:17 A lot, but. Just going by the ranking. Right, again, the rankings are horrible because Webb has been very pedestrian over the last three months. As has Finau, like his flame has just flickered out. I appreciate you saying that. Yeah, I'm happy to acknowledge that. Read is poison and has not beaten down the door enough.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Like he has not played good enough golf to demand being on that team. And for some reason, everybody but me forgets what he did with the last time he was on a team. So I think what that gives us is a ForSums lineup that looks something like this. JT and Speed makes a lot of sense. Zander can't lay seems to be a pairing that has to happen no matter what. I'm not exactly sure why, but those two just seem linked.
Starting point is 01:07:58 They won two ForSums matches in at Royal Melbourne. Moira Kaua and Kebka, I think, is an interesting pairing. Woodwatch, Woodwatch. Scottie Schaeffler and Dustin Johnson. I think those are my four ball teams right there. Bryson definitely sitting for that. No way Bryson plays a ForSums match. Oh, I thought you were sitting for four ball.
Starting point is 01:08:16 No, ForSums. No, ForSums. Going back through, you did Burger, Coke Rack, Cantla, and Who's Your ForSums? Schaeffler. And Schaeffler. Okay. I think English could slot in pretty well for a ForSums. Berger, Kochrack, Cantler, and who's your favorite? Shaftler. Shaftler. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Um, I think English could slot in pretty well for a ForSums. Uh, he, he is solid, no weaknesses. I don't pretend to know what exactly makes a good ForSums player, but I know it's not what Bryson does. Uh, I feel like some of it's just like, yo, like just go out and play good golf. Yeah. We're, we're, we're putting way too much stock into this. That's where I net on, on it on Zalatoris, right?
Starting point is 01:08:46 It's like he's just really freaking good. And like, you know, I'm probably not sending him out in Forrest, I'm just gonna send him out in Forball. Yeah, it's just his putting is a true weakness. It's not just like the little Yip that we saw the last time, how, but he is one of the, of all the guys in the running him and Mark Hauer, like the bad putters.
Starting point is 01:09:05 And it just seems like in his first big crazy, full long PGA tour season, he's running out of steam a little bit. He's not been the force that he was when he, you know, basically in the wrap around part of the season. He's so sick of you made the Ryder Cup team and wasn't eligible for the playoffs. That would be an all-time coup.
Starting point is 01:09:24 He just like hasn't been as good as somebody like Sheffler, not even close. And so if we're taking like a young kind of prodigy, a Jason player, you know another guy who was really high up on my list that I've not heard anyone talk about was Brian Harmon. Yeah. He would make a ton of sense, I think,
Starting point is 01:09:41 both for Whistler and Straight. I think so. What? Yeah, the dude's a bulldog. I love, nobody loves Harmon. I love Harmon, but like, it's, it's not like the ball, like, but he's a, he's like a good driver of the golf ball.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Straight driver of the golf ball. Yeah, which I think, you know, especially in Forcim's, I think would be good. I just go back to watching the like Jason Day just bomb it over those dog legs and, you know, and granted, I imagine the US will set it up so that distance is a massive, massive factor. Oh, I definitely, I would agree with that.
Starting point is 01:10:15 So you would think they would want guys that are gonna fit their stated strategy in 10, right? I'm just saying he was on my radar. That's all I'm saying. No, I love that. That's all I'm saying. Do you guys love that. That's all I'm saying. Do you guys think they're actually going to skip over Patrick Reed? No.
Starting point is 01:10:28 I don't either. I think they have absolutely no plan for managing the personalities of this team. Like it could be a colossal shit show. There's nothing that would, like just going, I did not feel like the US was going to lose the Ryder Cup until I interviewed Paul McGinley. He talked about managing the individual players on the European team. I was just like, oh, yeah, we're not doing any of that. Imagine.
Starting point is 01:10:48 The test force is total bullshit. Oh, yeah, totally. It's like how they corporatize this event into which corporate decisions are just like, all right, let's all get in a room and make the most bland possible decision we could so we can be, you know, cannot be criticized. Like, that's pretty much what the task force is. That's why they'll come up with like some computer generated task force is a perfect name for it.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Yeah, so many like presidential task forces on this for that. But like imagine Stricker like going to Bryson to like manage him and be like, yeah, just so you know, you're going to play two matches that you're going to play with this like this person. And this is how we're going to do it. Just seems not allowed the team room. Imagine doing him managing read with anything like that. It's just not going to happen.
Starting point is 01:11:24 So they're going to throw a bunch of talent out there and hope they play great golf. I don't know if that's good for him though for winning the Ryder Cup, but we'll see. I think that's totally what their model's gonna be. They should lean in and just make Justin the captain. Justin or Toto Wolf?
Starting point is 01:11:38 Yeah. One of those two. Can we talk about the Europeans a little bit? I think we're giving them short shrift. So I think their picks make it like net out really easily though. So on the Europe points, you've got Ram Fleetwood Hatton and Fitzpatrick. And Rory. Rory's fourth.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Rory's fourth on that one? Yes. Unless it's... Oh, yes, you're right. Right, okay. So European points. Yes. Okay, so yeah, Ram Fleetwood Hatton, and Rory, there,
Starting point is 01:12:07 Fitzpatrick, and then on the world points, you've got Havland, Casey, Fitzpatrick, Westwood, and Lowry. Correct. A, like, if I'm the US, I'm basically setting it up so that a guy like Fitzpatrick, whose game is, you know, from a driving perspective, is somewhat similar to like a Brian Harman.
Starting point is 01:12:28 I'm setting it up so like he's at a massive disadvantage and you know, I love Matt Fitzpatrick, but like for the Ryder Cup, he's kind of been a tough scene for Europe last. So I think he might need to take a knee. I'm going with big Bob McIntyre, Poults and Sergio. Yeah. I think it's Poults and Sergio.
Starting point is 01:12:47 I would, I would just have to imagine, have two of the picks. I don't think they're going to take big shot Bob over Justin Rose, but, um, they really only have one pick, I think, to make. I would, by all accounts, I would imagine that Sergio and Poults were going to be on that team. Uh, and then I, I think, you know, looking at otherwise, the guy that can make it kind of interesting would be if Victor Perez snuck in somehow. I don't know where or like with world points.
Starting point is 01:13:15 I don't know. He's one behind or he's 20 points behind Lowry again. I'm not sure what that signifies or what not, but with European tour events upcoming and everything. Can you explain the difference? European world, how do they? So yeah, it basically, it's like, you have the European points, right? It's mainly designed for guys that play
Starting point is 01:13:36 European tour for the most part, but they only give four spots away to that. So it's the top four on that list no matter what. And then they go the next five on the world points, which is basically like your world ranking. We're not otherwise. Not otherwise qualify. Correct.
Starting point is 01:13:48 So that's how they give the nine slots and then with three captains base. So that gives Victor Pres is kind of right on the edge. That's what you say. Yeah. Yeah. And he's got a, he's long as shit. And he's got a pretty good game for whistling straights.
Starting point is 01:14:01 The guy that just didn't, I was expecting a lot more, yeah, just a lot more out of him this year is Peters. Yeah. You know, just expected a lot out of him after 2016 that just never really fully blossomed, I think. Perez has not had a good run. MC, T59, MC, MC, MC. So it will be interesting if he's got a lot of points out of the match play still from
Starting point is 01:14:24 March. So it will be interesting if he does sneak his way in really often not much playing for him coming in. I mean, talk about team rose. You got you got T46 at the open T36 at travelers, missed the cut of the US open T20 at colonial or Charles Schwab T8 at PGA Championship, MC at Val Spore, seventh at Masters. Like, A, he's not playing at all. B, he's just not playing very well. Yeah, something about some of those dudes
Starting point is 01:14:52 that just flip it on, though, when it comes to this event, they play not scared and we play scared. So experience on their side, I think does matter. I really do. I just don't think it matters on the US side because a lot of the experience has been shitty. So, tour schedule, let's do it. The new tour schedule came out earlier this week.
Starting point is 01:15:11 I'll quickly go through some of the main highlights from a lot of these notes will be pulled from a golf digest article. Down to two WGCs, there is no more WGC slash Mexico slash concession. I'd like to, you know, formally just console my friend here, TC, who represents group of Salinas. Group of Salinas has taken over title sponsorship of the PGA Tour Latino America points thing though. Huge. Which is massive. Yeah. Didn't didn't realize that. But like, if you're
Starting point is 01:15:47 gonna get rid of the WGC's, please get rid of HSBC. Right. They kept the only stroke play with the least important stroke play when I would say. That's tournament blows. The FedEx St. Jude becomes a playoff event. That means the Northern Trust is going away. Okay. Which I think that makes sense with FedEx moving to, I think we've talked about moving the FedEx to like the torch championship. But on some level I think that makes sense. Totally. Makes way more sense.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Slide them in there. And I think this is a great development for a lot of longstanding tournaments. The WGCs have just felt plastic from the get-go. And I think there is some soul to events like Bay Hill, to Genesis, to Memorial, and they get all kind of washed when you have so many, you know, all these events you're supposed to care about a lot, like seeing some of these WGC's go away and seeing some of the love get spread out to something like the new Genesis Scottish Open, which is now a co-sanctioned event with the European tour. I think that's a great development for golf fans. Totally agree.
Starting point is 01:16:44 I don't think it means great things for the Scottish open. I think Renaissance is a factor. I think it's going to be the course. I think especially with a bigger infrastructure coming to the event. I think that is a big requirement for it. I don't foresee a big link swing, unfortunately, which we can talk about that when we get the Irish open as well. We can do that right now when I say... Well, I, I thought it was interesting that they put the barbersol opposite the Genesis, Scottish open, because then that is, they're basically conceding that, hey, we're gonna give some European tour members some spots
Starting point is 01:17:18 in the barbersol as a kind of a olive branch for giving additional PGA tour. Players starts. and players starts on their tour. And then I think it also makes sense because they were they were looking to do they've got barbass all and barracuda, I think back to back as co sponsored events. So those are those go up against the Scottish open and the open championship. And so with that in mind, there's going be also two co-sanctioned European Tour
Starting point is 01:17:46 and PGA Tour events in the US during those two events, which I think is again, good developments for both tours. And it makes it worthwhile for European Tour players to travel over and play in those events if they're not getting two starts in the skydish open and British open. PGA Tour is, this is one I don't really fully understand, but the PGA Tour is bolstering
Starting point is 01:18:05 the Irish open by contributing to a near doubling of its prize money to $6 million in 2022, though that event has not, has yet to establish its dates or venues, nor will it be co-sanctient. Which almost feels like, I mean, I'm totally guessing, but it almost feels like they're kind of setting the table to do the same thing as what they're doing with the Scottish open this year, right? I would think so. And make that a true kind of bang, bang, bang, over in Europe, which would be awesome.
Starting point is 01:18:29 At some point, it just needs to be like the diageo Guinness Irish Open, right? Dubai duty-free Guinness Irish Open. That's one I'm holding out a little bit of hope for a link scores, but again, more money being thrown at it means bigger footprint, which means harder to find a links course. And, you know, I don't pretend to know how all that works. I just know it almost always ends up with disappointment for golf fans in that regard. But I think no matter what, seeing the top American players play over in Europe more frequently is a good thing. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 01:19:01 I think it's going to be really interesting to see how when the European tour schedule comes out to see how they treat the the Middle East swing, you know, and the how all encompassing that is and how many events they have over there in a row. Obviously, the Saudi element of it now too. That's not going to be as sanctioned. So from Golf Digis, again, the future of the WGC series could be complicated by a Saudi backed groups recent investment in the Asian tour, widely seen as the next step in an attempt to shake up the landscape of professional golf that includes a potential rival tour. The WGC's are put on by the International Federation of PGA tours, which includes the
Starting point is 01:19:37 Asian tour and the PGA tours taken a firm stance against cooperating with groups that seek to challenge its position at the pinnacle of professional golf. In a related move, the tour, according to our port last week, indicated that it will not grant players event releases for next year's Saudi international. Looking at you, Coke rack. After the European tour ceased to sanction it on its schedule. Sanktion me. Sucks for Phil. I know he loved that event so much. Well, he already saw a ton of events.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Yeah, he already saw it. Practically at home, you have. He already saw the views. I think that was he was big in, in the scene, the views of the Red Sea. Well, I think it, like, it goes with saying, it's like, it's not like this is a hashtag, strategic alliance. It was a hostile takeover by the PGA tour of the European tour. And, but I do, you know, I got a hand into the Saudis. That's a good little back door into, like, basically buying the Asian tour.
Starting point is 01:20:32 And then having, you know, however many events they're gonna have in Saudi Arabia, or we'll see how it shakes out, no pun intended. But, I'm sorry, I'm just sliding in there. But, you know, it's like they've, they've still got, I think next year it's interesting too. You've got waste management and pebble flip flopped next year. And then I think it, it, it's also interesting.
Starting point is 01:20:54 There's not a single PGA Tour event in Boston, New York, Chicago, three of the biggest cities in the country. Yeah. Kind of wild, right? Very, very little golf in the Northeast, other than the travelers, and I guess BMW's going to Wilmington. Wilmington, so that's kind of Philly next year.
Starting point is 01:21:10 But, you know, I'm sure the Wilmington people jumped down my throat at that. But you're an hour down the road from Philly. Is the Canadian open on the schedule? We're back. Okay. Yeah. There are St. George's, that'll be a good one. There is a TBD Mexico event,
Starting point is 01:21:24 I don't know if you mentioned that, crossing our fingers as hard as we possibly can, that we're going back to Chipotle to pack. I think we've all warmed up in a massive way to that golf course. We'd love to see that back on the schedule, so fingers crossed there. And then I think also you got the 3M rocket mortgage moves to late July, it's 3M, rocket mortgage and wind
Starting point is 01:21:42 them kind of all back to back to back to to close it out there. And John Deere and then going in kind of late June and that first week in July. Three Scottish open. Yeah, that'll be a bit of a different date as well. You should, you would think that that would help the John Deere field, which I know is an exciting thing for. Kind of fun. They've got a little New England swing this year between Brookline and then Cromwell. That's true. I forgot the, I forgot the US opens up there as well. Puerto Rico
Starting point is 01:22:09 opened used to be opposite WGC. Now will be opposite of Bay Hill leading to, you know, implication that those events are being further elevated, which I can't go any. I'm sort of already pulled over. I can't pull over any further. I can't pull over any further. Also, we're noting Wells Fargo at TPC Potomac because the Quail Hollow has the, the Presidents Cup. Sure. I can't wait to get a look at Quail Hollow at the Presidents Cup.
Starting point is 01:22:32 It's just a super secretive golf course that I can't wait to familiarize myself with for Match Play. It's gonna be so exciting. TPC Potomac's sweet though. Is that what it was playing? It was. Firm as fuck that one here, remember that? Our friend.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Of course. Stephen Britton. Stephen Britton. He's got the boys playing hard out there. He's since moved on down to Chevy Chase Club, but. Hopefully he left his playbook out. Yeah, I think they legitimately, I think the membership was like, yeah, you can turn this place up as much as you want.
Starting point is 01:23:02 That was awesome. So. Also, some interesting sentences at the end of that golf digest article about possibly revisiting the wrap around schedule. And some of those, obviously nothing concrete in there and nothing even really tip in their hand. But my reading of it almost was like,
Starting point is 01:23:19 it sounded like the wrap around schedule would kind of be going away a little bit, possibly leaning more towards a more traditional calendar year, which I think everybody would be pretty massive thumbs up for that, but much more to come there. I feel like you almost make the, like, transfer the European tour, at least with the middle east swing, and with, you know, you can incorporate Australia into this, you can incorporate, um, I'm trying to think where else. Some of the Spanish events,
Starting point is 01:23:46 like doing some of that kind of opposite field, building that out a little bit, right? Or fall season kind of thing. Which I wonder, is there an opportunity to make the fall season, it's a separate season? Like almost like an optional thing. Like do you wanna play in this sprint for the FedEx,
Starting point is 01:24:03 you know, FedEx bowl? Or I wonder if that's what kind of the PGL type stuff turns into, is if it almost becomes like a, hey, do whatever you want, you know, basically the PGL tour season is going to be from Coppaluo to tour championship. And after that, you know, we'll have kind of a hand in certain things, but you know, I almost wonder if they turn that, those couple months into almost like free for all golf. That's a complete total guess, but I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Just some interesting lines in that article. It seems like the biggest changes are coming that in 23. It seems like there's not enough time to get all this stuff done between all the COVID rescheduling and all this to kind of where they wanna be. But the two biggest themes for me are the, it seems like a repudiation of the WGCs and of Finchham's kind of dream on that front.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Then be just kind of, you know, with Monahan being a Boston guy and with, they're kind of forfeiting the New York area to the majors and the Ryder Cup. And then the fact that there's not a PGA Tour event in the Pacific Northwest just blows my mind to, those people are golf crazed up there. But I think it also just goes to,
Starting point is 01:25:23 like we were saying with the Barakuda and the stableford format, right? It's more about sponsorship than it is like overall toward. That's what I would guess, right? I mean, you know, if you have somebody that's going to put up the money and you could go play in states that are not like not as highly taxed as New York and Massachusetts. I don't think the WC's went away because of like conceptual rejiggering. Like I think it was just, they got so freaking expensive that. I was just kind of paying twice as much
Starting point is 01:25:51 in the WGC when actually your name's not even on it as much. But like, you know, there's not a whole lot of tech companies that they're digging into. They're like to see a bank like Northern Trust bail on this. It's super interesting. And solid of that. And like Houston doesn't have it.
Starting point is 01:26:10 They still have a sponsor on here. It's not like the Vivint Houston Open. It says the Houston Open. I don't know. I don't know if they signed. Yeah, that's interesting. I don't know why they would go away from that's interesting. I don't, I really don't know why they would go away from those markets.
Starting point is 01:26:27 I'm trying to understand that, but maybe they just, they didn't serve them great being in them. And they never consistently went to Chicago or anything like that, which I always found curious. But, yeah. But it may be the biggest cities are not the best places for them to operate for whatever reason. I really don't know the answer to that. But it's just wildly, they've got the Texas open,
Starting point is 01:26:47 the Byron Nelson, Charles Schwab Challenge, the Houston event, and Matchplay, they have five events in Texas. Texas seems like the most bloated. The target reach environment. Yeah, especially playing two of them in May, which are one of the worst months for golf in Dallas, but in the Fort Worth area. And then the last thing I had was CJ Cup will be played in Vegas for the second straight year with the summit club taking over for Shadow Creek.
Starting point is 01:27:15 It does the event plans to return to South Korea in the future as the first leg of the three tournament Asian swing in the Zozo, which was at Sherwood last year will return to Narasino Golf Club outside Tokyo. I don't know why one is going back to Asian, one is not, but again, that's individual sponsor, probably related decisions. They are holding the CJ folks through that deal. I can't imagine there are all that pleased with, you know. Heaked about Vegas. Yeah, for, you know, two years in a row. Anything else? I was gonna say Jensen Castle about the I was just a little bit more
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Starting point is 01:28:15 That's right. It'll be on in the mornings each day on golf channel. Seven to eleven Eastern. We have the Wyndham coming up this year, this, this week as well, which will be long, long, long time coming to decide who will be on the PGA tour next season, who will be in the top one 25, which there's some guys, I think if you're looking at FedEx cop, you've got, I know he's, you know, Ricky Fowler at 125. You've got, uh, do we figure out if he's exempt?
Starting point is 01:28:45 I don't know. I'm sure they'll carve out a grant-thorton exemption or something. Well, I guess he would have the career money list exemption he could use, but you only get to use that once. Right. I'm sure he would not,
Starting point is 01:28:55 he'd love to save that one. Did they change it? Don't you get a top 15 in a top 25? Or is he not a top 25? You do get one of each, I think, but he's not top 25. He should be the right, no, I don't. So the bubbles typically, what?
Starting point is 01:29:09 Like goes down to what, like 118, 119-ish. So you got Bryce Garnett at 118, Woodland at 119. And this is prior to Reno, and I think this is not updated yet, but, and you've got Woodland, Couture at 120, Bo Hogue at 121, Stollings at 122, Adam Scott at 123, Lashley at 124, Ricky Fowler at 125, and then Patrick Rogers, Vijay Gas, Hadley, Percy, Charles Hal III.
Starting point is 01:29:38 How the third is a Wildland for some of this never lost their tour card. He's not a good one. That's what a wild one is. I guess for some of these guys, it doesn't really matter because they won. Like a Michael Thompson, you know, he's still, but like Michael Thompson, it feels like he's been involved in a lot of events this year for him to be 132. Fleetwoods 133, Rose 134, Austin Cook, 135.
Starting point is 01:30:01 Yeah, just kind of some, some, you know, Bo Hossler, 145. Roar Sabatini, 138, despite winning the Silver Medal. Ricky, by the way, number 24 career. Okay, so he's got a couple exemptions to use. But Jimmy Walker, 163, Tyler Duncan, 165. It seemed like he was very involved in the false wing. And then Corn Ferry goes to Omaha for the big one. This is a two-year like so so the guy that won this week Josh Creel he moved up from 64th to 32nd you won this week and he's not even in the top 25
Starting point is 01:30:36 Which is bananas? We're looking at a big sample size big big sample size really I don't know if it's going to translate into things being very like tough, like kind of not as much movement as we would normally see, at least within on the 25 bubble, but you've got some guys on the 75 bubble as well, because that's definitely an underrated thing, like even getting into the Cornfairy Finals. And then the shrimp, currently number 76. I know. I know some of the guys on this, God, some of the guys on this list of the 25 have played 40 events that are,
Starting point is 01:31:14 that are counting. That's a God. If you like watching some massive heartbreak, this year's going to be even more heart breaking. Yeah. And you also have guys on the PGA tour trying to get in the top 200 to make it into the Cornfery finals, which there's another path to getting more tour cards.
Starting point is 01:31:29 On the Cornfery tour route, of course, always rooting for our guy Justin Lauer, currently number 27. 29 after this week. 29 after this week. It's like like a couple guys, Taylor Montgomery, and then somebody else, they kind of bumped up to, from 29 to 24,
Starting point is 01:31:44 Uline went from 30 to 25. So it's gonna be very, very interesting. And then 75 list. And then even on like the 125 to 200 side on the PGA tour, there's gonna be some shuffling there. Cause if you're outside the 200, you don't get into more and very finals. So this is like one of my favorite weeks
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