No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 47: Adam Sarson on the Open Championship

Episode Date: July 18, 2016

Emergency podcast! Adam Sarson joins less than two hours after Henrik Stenson’s 63rd and final stroke of the day fell on the 72nd hole of the Open Championship to immediately react to one of the... ... The post NLU Podcast, Episode 47: Adam Sarson on the Open Championship appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah! That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Expect anything different! Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No-Lang Up Podcast. Emergency edition. I've never done a Sunday night podcast, mostly because over here in Europe the golf usually ends after midnight and it's the last thing I want to do, but
Starting point is 00:00:41 pretty historic moment that we just witnessed from Henry Stenson winning the Open Championship by three shots over Phil Mikkelsen. I am joined by Operation Supervisor from the score Adam Sarson. I would normally ask if you've recovered yet from what we just witnessed but I don't think it's even possible given the amount of time since the last putt just dropped. No there is there is no chance to have recovered as of yet. It's been a lot about not even an hour. Since it ended, I'm still in shock at what we actually just witnessed. There were two players who were playing a completely different course out there, apparently. And I don't understand
Starting point is 00:01:20 how any of it ever actually happened. I mean, how often do you see, I guess I should look this up before asking it, but guys, just like the second place guy is 11 shots clear of the third place guy. Like, it really, I mean, just broadcast tend to hone in on just the final grouping and the final guys and the running at the end. There was almost no reason to show anybody else
Starting point is 00:01:42 though at that point, because it really was the biggest runaway two-man show I've seen in a major i think i said i can't remember who tweeted it out but i think i saw somebody just before we came on a dentist say that it was the previous uh... biggest margin was ten shots uh... at the at the dual the sun so i mean we're talking about uh... actually
Starting point is 00:02:02 you know the store uh... store a level of difference here. I mean, it was actually, I was saying you just before we came on, but it was actually comfortable watching what they were doing on Sunday, because everything was just so pure. But it was a little different on Saturday where they separated themselves on Saturday as well, but Phil was not somehow, I don't know how he shot what he shot on Saturday because he was all over the map and he was somehow I just seemingly getting lucky out there, but like it was completely
Starting point is 00:02:32 different on Sunday because they were just hidden so so pure shot who was unbelievable. I had a buddy actually come over, usually I'm watching golf by myself, like I said, it's usually pretty late at night and I actually had a buddy come over and watch with me today and he's a decent golf fan, not a huge golf fan, but we were literally laughing out loud at when putt started rolling in, like we're just looking at each other and laughing when Stenson would roll in a 25 footer and like even he could clearly appreciate what was going on was absolutely ridiculous, but before we get into it. I walked in a 51 footer. He walked in.
Starting point is 00:03:05 That was awesome but did he like Stenson does that. He walks, he starts walking after some of the long putts. Are we positive he thought it was in or was he just kind of like you know what? I'm actually 40, I can't see that far. Like I need to see how close this gets and it went in. I honestly don't think it matters.
Starting point is 00:03:22 I really don't think it was so it was just so it was it was the most boss when we could have the entire week. It was in Pro. I but I'm not confident. It was pretty it was amazing. It was badass but I'm not confident that he thought it was in when he started walking. That's the only criticism of it. It's going to be up there for the saucy's. Don't you worry. It'll be when you're in saucy. It will be there. I imagine that's going to make the final four. Although Thomas Peters today breaking club over his over his knee and hitting
Starting point is 00:03:48 15 feet. That's probably your front runner for the years Oh, this is the greatest tournament ever. I love this tournament. Unbelievable It's completely overshadowed like Rory breaking the three wood It's completely unbelievable Yeah, DJ Pioski just tweeted out like a list of top 10 things of the week It's completely overshadowed, like, Rory breaking the three wood, it's completely unbelievable, sweet. Yeah, DJ Pioski just tweeted out like a list of top 10 things of the week. And I think Rory breaking the three wood
Starting point is 00:04:10 only came in at like number nine. It was like, I forget, I didn't see the whole, I don't have the list in front of me. But before we, the most important thing we have to tackle is these people that are out there trying to come up with a name for this thing, like comparing it to the duel in the sun. The duel in the sun, they literally just described what the weather was like
Starting point is 00:04:28 after the word duel. That's the amount of effort they put into naming this thing. Can we stop this? The only like really really good one that I thought I saw from, I think it was Joe Pistons and asked you to, did it out? It was, was, was high true. Okay. That one's pretty good. All right. But But but the rest of them like, yeah, you're just you're trying to hard, but you know, it's not you don't need to call it like the tussle of trim or something like that. It just doesn't make any sense. I mean, we when I grew up in the tiger era and it's always a risk, especially this immediate aftermath of doing it of hyperbole, but do you recall a better final round of a major in your lifetime?
Starting point is 00:05:09 Oh, no, I honestly don't think. I mean, but you did, so you can obviously look back in terms of memorable moments, who obviously have all kinds of different stuff, whether it's Van Develder or even, you know, speech, you know, this year, I'd address it, which I'm sure you're still not over yet. Yeah, let's not, we're not doing that. But, but for talking about pure entertainment value, no, I mean, there was no,
Starting point is 00:05:32 there, there, I can't recall anything that even comes close to this. There's a, there's a great account on Twitter, 15th Club, which I believe Jake Nichols writes for, and they were talking about all the Stroke's game and whatever, and basically they were saying that Stenson's 20 under this week was pretty much equal to what Titer did at Pebble in 2000. Wow. Wow, okay.
Starting point is 00:05:56 So I mean, we're talking historic levels here. Yeah, and that's so dating back all the way back to the 2015 PGA Championship, the Jason Day 1 at 20 under Speed Finish in 2nd at 17, same exact 2 scores as Stenson and Nicholson this week, but behind that, Brandon Grace at 15, Justin Rose at 14, Kebkela Harry at 13, Katsia, DJ, Kutcher, 12, Finau, Streb, 11. There were guys that were, it was an easy setup. Wasting straight just played very easy. Trune did not. I mean, Rory finished 5th at 4 under.
Starting point is 00:06:32 And he was 16 shots back, extension. It's on, it really is unvalidable. Like you look at like what, and it's even better actually that there were two guys who did it like these two guys obviously just it felt like I can't remember again we tweeted it but it felt like those two were playing at the barfus all this week like it was it was insane um and yeah it's you have like jabby homes shot 70 on the first two days and then 69 on this and on the weekend and that's like it wasn't even remotely close. No, maybe he finished third. Yeah, he should get like,
Starting point is 00:07:08 his, his, so Ryder Cup points count double for, you know, major championships, they should not count double for him for that. You cannot finish 11 shots behind second place and then like fully accept all the third place points for that because that's ridiculous. But, no, Hank Stinson and Phil shot a best ball 59 today in the final round of the major pair together.
Starting point is 00:07:29 It wasn't easy conditions, like it wasn't tough. It wasn't like, it wasn't whipping and raining and whatnot that it was earlier in the week, but it was not like it was on Thursday when Phil had basically as easy as possible conditions as you can have in an open. I'm, Hank had two, three pots, two, two bogeys in shot 63. And it's, it's, it's a lot of it's a component to even yesterday's round.
Starting point is 00:07:52 But yesterday's round was a whole lot tougher and they still want to shot 68 and 70 and, and just gave them enough of a cushion that it really wasn't like no one was going to catch them today. Anyway, and then on top of that, it's like they went out and just shot 63, 65, like it was nothing. Like it's like, it defies description on so many levels really. And it's, I don't, you're never gonna see this again.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I really honestly believe you're never gonna see this again. Yeah, the only way it could have been better in my mind is if I think if Phil had shot 63, Hank shot 65 and Phil beat him by one, that would have been like the storybook ending, I think if Phil had shot 63, Hank shot 65, and Phil beat him by one, that would have been like the storybook ending I think. It would have been like Stenson, you couldn't say anything about his performance, he didn't blow the lead and Phil shot the greatest round in final and major championship history to beat him by one. I mean not to say what we just witnessed was incredible, but at the very end the suspense was gone at least
Starting point is 00:08:44 by the 18th hole, but I should absolutely be the last thing I should be doing is critiquing this tournament and trying to wish for something better than what we just witnessed. Well, there is no way that Phil, like, Phil didn't deserve the loose at all. Like, this is, like, it's, he did everything possible that he could do to not lose this tournament. There's nothing you can really say about it. Yeah, I'm struggling to come up with words. There were, I was reading something else too about how, his score of 17 under, he loses by 3,
Starting point is 00:09:23 and he would have at least forced a playup and 141 of 145 open. But how do you post a number like that and not only lose, but lose by three? Oh, God. I don't know how he's gotta be feeling right now. I mean, I know he's probably his career in general, he's feeling very accomplished, I would think,
Starting point is 00:09:43 but you just, how do you come to turn?'s got to be a little bit of why me today like you kidding me all the Final round heart breaks I've had I went out and shot 65 today and got beat by I got beat by three I mean you got to just feel helpless at that point it just doesn't feel right but yeah I mean I maybe it feels a little bit better that it wasn't the US open I guess I mean he's already got one of these I mean I his life is obviously great as it is, but I mean, obviously you want to win as often as possible. Um, you could tell the one like his, he didn't interview with Steve Sands after the round. And like, he knows, he knows how well he played today. And it just, you know, he can say that he's happy for Senson. And I'm sure he is, but like it's just not, it's not the same obviously.
Starting point is 00:10:25 That's what made it so enjoyable though from a viewer standpoint is I would say I was like 55 to 45 rooting for Phil, but it was not like Zach Johnson vs. Pete at the British Open last year. My day could not have been affected by whoever won. It's Sensen's a very likable guy. I've always been a big fan of him. I don't talk about him a whole lot, but he's one of the, I probably, when it comes to foreign players that I root for,
Starting point is 00:10:51 he's way near the top, you're probably only behind Rory and maybe Sergio, depending on the situation. But such a likable guy, there's, it's hard to find a bad thing to say about him other than the traditionalist that would don't like as temper or whatever That's really the only criticism I could think of him So that's what made this so much fun. It's like he's back in fourth bird He was like I couldn't even get up. I couldn't be mad like you can't there's no possible way
Starting point is 00:11:15 You could have not enjoyed watching that I felt people like people not even golf fans were tuning in tweeting about it And it was not wildly entertaining. I'm still I'm still buzzing from it. I think yeah I mean like he, he is incredibly lightable. I mean, that's the, that's the truth. I mean, like, not only from a, from a personality standpoint, I mean, he's hilarious. Like, if you see him do any of the, any of the great stuff that the Call of Way guys have been putting out
Starting point is 00:11:38 on social the last few weeks, like he's, he's front and center as one of the funniest strategies you'll ever see on tour. And then when you get to watch him on the course, like he's just such a pure ball striker. Like the ball sounds different. Like I know that's a cliche that people say, but like it really does sound different coming off of his club. But he said it does off of anybody else's. Like he's he's insanely good.
Starting point is 00:11:57 And the whole like, yeah, the whole thing about how he hasn't had a major win and all that. Yeah, I mean, I mean, you and I both hate those kinds of conversations. So obviously with DJ last month and hopefully Sergio and two weeks will be done with that stuff. We made it 11, 12 minutes into the recording, and without you mentioning Sergio and winning a major. You mentioned it first and fairness. I mentioned his name, and I would somewhat root for him. I didn't think I did not mention him possibly getting off the Bajor Sniide. It was like even my buddy was again, he's not the biggest golf player watching. He's just like, does Sergio just do this at every major, just kind of like near the top, but is clearly not going to win it?
Starting point is 00:12:37 And I was like, yeah, that's a pretty good way of defining it at this point. It's pretty accurate. I mean, that ends in a couple of weeks. Oh, God. You're still going gonna do this. I, we picked him 2014 Masters, I think that was last time I did it, nor will I ever do it. I'm just like, you know what, that was it.
Starting point is 00:12:52 I've come this far. It's not, I don't think it's gonna happen, but. Eventually, I'm going to be right. That's just my theory. That's the logic, but there's gonna be so much scar tissue at that point. Are you going to even be able to enjoy it when it actually does happen if it does? But, yeah. What did you think, I guess, about Royal Trune, RNA setup and the golf course in general?
Starting point is 00:13:16 I don't know. Setup was great. You know, there really isn't much to say about this setup. I don't know how much you can really do to a lot of these forces. Like, Trum, it's so pretty much perfect as it is anyway. I thought the RNA obviously, with the high winds that were forecasted over, at least for the first three days, they decided not to do anything with the greens. They're only running about 9.5 on the stem, apparently.
Starting point is 00:13:45 So the set up is great. It's not too artificial penal. But so much of the USG I set up is obviously very penal. I mean, you saw what happened all week at the postage stem. It's only 120 yards at the very most, depending on where the T is that day. And the guys were just all over the place, they couldn't figure out how to play it. Yeah, so the setup was great. I've always tuned, so it was great to see.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Yeah, I thought, I mean, I made this point in the US Open 2, is how much we just talk about the golf course during the US Open Week, and during Open Championship Week, it's just kind of the setting, right? And that's the way it definitely should be. I feel like Trunze a little bit boring and not like my favorite of the Open Championship courses, but at the same time, a great test. I love the fact that these guys were, I mean, I think it was kind of a free way it played out, but the fact these guys were able to separate themselves, uh, says a lot about the golf course, more than, more than necessarily than it does, like Stenson and, and Mikkelsen and that, like
Starting point is 00:14:52 that, that PJ Championship I gave, the example I gave, like everybody went low, day just went the lowest. Like, uh, this was such a good setup to be able, if you're like really on your game, especially from a putting perspective, if you're like, Stenson and Mikkelsen, the only ones making puts all week. That was the, it's just a setup where you could absolutely take it low if you were on fire, but you're not getting away with any, like Rory, I felt like hit the ball really well for the better part of the week.
Starting point is 00:15:17 But just made too many mistakes, missed so many puts inside five feet, inside 10 feet, that he would never really got it together. And I mean, I was kept trying to talk myself into him making a comeback at this and made it to come to about 16 shots short. I'm happy the way that I played out. I would like to have been so many like, damn, if he had just made that putt, if he ended up being closed, which I'm very thankful he was not close. I mean, he's still back toward that top five.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Oh, yeah. I mean, that's just what he does. It's a patented move. Yeah, he's just so talented that obviously, you know, it actually, it just, it'll take over, right? But no, I agree with you that it's not like the best course on the Elven Road, but like, I mean, how it's still so good that, you know, it's, you can't really have any major complaints about it. I do think that some of the holes do kind of what's so similar but I love love the
Starting point is 00:16:09 posters and I love ten and eleven. They're very difficult all week. But like I said it wasn't artificially difficult. It's not tricked out with the USGAMR's all to all their courses. So I thought it was great. I just love on the links. The links courses how interesting like the 360 to 390 yard par force can be depending on the wind and like the strategy that goes into playing those holes. Those holes, no matter what the, no matter what you do in the US to those holes, the pros are going to play those holes under par, like overalls of you.
Starting point is 00:16:41 You can trick them up as much as you want, but no matter what, outside that US Open set up, those holes are always going to be birdie holes for those guys, but it's not necessarily the case when it comes to these link style and open championship courses, which I think is a lot of fun. I mean, you can play a whole, and I think we saw a lot of different wins this week, which I don't think is a normal thing there. There was no like, on a day-to-day basis, I didn't know how certain holes were playing. It wasn't like, oh, seven, everyone's going to be driving this hole today, or four is easily reachable. Is it reachable on every day? I don't know. I find that really fun and really a really a strong test.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Well, and then even just to go back to the post-imstand first item, like they were Mark O'Marrow one day, he birdied it one one day and he actually like, he hit an eight iron into the hole where it was only 100 yards. You know, Kutcher today put it in one of the bunkers and then, you know, and then I put it back in the same bunker I'm gonna pitch you know. Like, it was like, the whole thing is, like the courses I now, like, you know, you don't need, you know, you don't need the 245 yard part three to make these guys struggle a bit. You just need to have them think and if they think about it, it's just more entertaining that way.
Starting point is 00:17:54 What was the difference between number eight at Oakmont versus Trune? It was the length of a part three, it was like 183 yards or something one of the days. Exactly. It's incredible. Yeah, no, it's incredible. So, and I mean, Phil even made comments after the round. Brennan-Poreth was tweeting about just through a shot at the USGA, of course, at his RNA or at his Open Championship press conference. I'm doing great, not calling it the British Open right now, which I was way too nice about
Starting point is 00:18:21 that this week. You better watch out. Oh, I know. The best was today I did a fake quote from the USDA president, like screwing up Henry Stenson's name and the announcement. I called it the British Open and people were correcting me. Well, I've never heard of the British Open. What is that?
Starting point is 00:18:38 Oh my God, get over yourself. You people need to let it go. Have you ever listened to this? You need to let it go. I call the Open Championship all the time. Come on. All the time you say by not calling it the British Open, just calling it the Open, you waste correcting everybody else that says it. I thought it was interesting though that NBC, because obviously it's their first year on the covers this year, but like NBC just, they made a point of not calling it the British
Starting point is 00:19:00 Open on the air repeatedly this week. Like they were just calling it the Open right from the very beginning, which I mean, I guess they're, I this week. Like they were just calling it the open right from the very beginning. What I mean, I guess they're, I don't know if they were told to do that or whatever, but I was definitely answer us in the mid-to. That's interesting because yeah, I felt like ESPN, like he's growing up as kid. I know like the graphics, I'll say the open championship or the 100 and whatever open championship, but I feel like they referred to it as the British Open, didn't they? I thought the exact same thing while I was watching it this week.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Yeah. What did you think of NBC covering their first or golf channel? I guess covering their first major and the combined NBC covering their first open championship? Well, I mean, the best thing they did was just, I mean, the sheer amount of coverage this week was insane. amount of coverage this week was insane. So I like to know you're over in Europe but here on the East Coast in North America we had they were up at one thirty in the morning, Thursday and Friday. They had 29 hours of coverage the first two days and you know they had a ton of coverage on the weekend too obviously. You can basically watch, you could basically watch every shot. And I saw, I think, Jake Hoffman from Ralph Channel, retweeted something last a couple
Starting point is 00:20:12 days ago about how they actually did get everybody onto the broadcast at one point. What do you mean? Oh, they got every player. Yeah, every year. Wow. We're showing at least once on the broadcast at some point in the first two days. I thought that that seems impossible with the way that the with the way that the broad test should work. But I mean, they that was the best.
Starting point is 00:20:34 I thought that they could have used fairly a little better. Yeah. But that seems to be a recurrent. They were sent to move to NBC. So I don't know if that's I don't know how much of the curses and that is at this point So that's funny mentioned about every player making the broadcast because I remember I saw some some golf channel staff Or like tweet out after day one that a hundred and ten of the hundred and fifty six players made it on the broadcast and then On day two they randomly showed a guy had never heard of one shot It was like a par putt and he was ten over par and I like, they were literally just trying to show as many like for their stats as many
Starting point is 00:21:08 people as possible, which is cool. I'm fine with that, but I think they got honed in a little bit on the weekend on just those final few guys, but again, I think the situation called for that. But I know Fox kind of screwed up the curve on the protracer and I know I tweeted maybe 85 times about this week, but what a missed opportunity man. I mean you're you got this is not this is not the barbersol no no fence the barbersol like this is a big boy event you had you had the technology available to do this on a link style course where we have no sightlines no trees to see the ball flying
Starting point is 00:21:42 against you got to use pro tracer and they they used it maybe 10% of as much as they should have. Yeah, I mean, the whole like, you know how we always say that like Tiger has ruined everything for like all these players coming up to day to the about much you want. Yeah, this is basically the same thing with Fox. Like Fox actually has ruined coverage for the rest of us. And what an amazing turnaround from last year. Like, well, how much we shredded them. Well, yeah, I mean, in our group there, I met like, as I actually messaged the other day,
Starting point is 00:22:09 I think, I was like, yeah, Foxes actually better than NBC, you know, like there's no getting around that. Right? Like, they do, they just do a great job. And like, I know I'm wrong. Like, I thought NBC was decent this week. I mean, the amount of, you know, the stuff that they showed is obviously paramount.
Starting point is 00:22:25 That's what you want. But it definitely felt like on the weekend as well that like the actual golf to commercial ratio was way off. And like, I mean, that's not exactly a huge shock. I guess. And I mean, CBS is probably the same thing with the PGA in a couple of weeks,
Starting point is 00:22:40 but it is, it is frustrating. The approach is within it. It doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah, I mean I feel like and I tweeted at them both NBC and golf channel and I felt like it's such an overwhelming thing and that I was hoping that they would at least notice it be like this is what people are talking about like we need to do this and I don't know but there was a shot. There was a shot on Thursday of of Rory and they had the Pro Tracer on Rory on the range. Yeah. And I was like just like I would pay for this like this is this is perfect. Take my money and then we basically didn't get to see anywhere near as much Pro Tracer as we should have. It was that was for a
Starting point is 00:23:21 shirt and for sure. I just think I don't know, I think that matters to golf fans. I think it really, really, really beefs up a broadcast and it's got kind of one of those things we didn't know how much we needed it until we had it and then now we see it. But I have a hard time, I guess, putting Fox above NBC overall just because their broadcast team is so stacked now. It's really ridiculous. And I could do without Fowdo, you know, on the golf channel portion of it. But man, bringing Mike Toreco is a huge get.
Starting point is 00:23:52 There's not that many guys that can do play by play that make it feel like a big event. And I'll give Nance, Hicks, and Toreco credit on all that. When SVP does it too, it feels like a big event. But Joe Buck, he disease fine, but just again, I don't feel like I'm watching a big major event when I hear him calling golf. But they're just the fact that they can turn it over, you know, to mulpie. They got, ferrity, who's get criminally underused. They got Tariqo. I can do it. I'm
Starting point is 00:24:19 not a big Peter Jacobsen guy. But they go, hey, it's Johnny Miller. It's like, man, they are just absolutely stacked. I would love to see the commercials were a huge issue I thought this weekend, but if you can mix in the technology with that group, it's going to be, that's a tough, tough team to beat. I completely agree with you on Tarrito, but it just kind of like, it didn't seem like the role he was in this week was correct. Right. It's kind of weird. It's still like, I don't know yeah there's something they feel like they kept going to him like just him on the camera to describe something that's about to happen like in like a cheesy written
Starting point is 00:24:50 out thing which I don't think is his his role but um no I mean it was either that or he was sitting with Jimmy Roberts and like you would ask Jimmy Roberts a couple of questions and they'd throw it a like they throw it a piece that they had done and it's like okay is this really what Mike Toreto is here to do? Obviously, with NBC, like, he's there for the Olympics, he's there for fun, but I get it, but like, you know, and I like dance, but I do prefer Toreco personally. I'm not so much like you. I'm not so much on the Peter Jacobson thing, but but Johnny this week, Johnny was in um but the johnny this week johnny was in in some in some kind of some kind of form this week though
Starting point is 00:25:33 um he he definitely hasn't lost the basketball that that's one hundred percent for sure oh i just it makes me sad that it doesn't call us opens anymore it really is entertaining i mean the the fact i get what he was trying to say about rory about him being in the gym too much and being wanting to show off his muscles too much But the fact that he referred to him wearing two tight of shirts is part of the reason that he's being held back was that was just special I mean, I'm not even mad about it. That was just special and then and then of all people Gary player calls him out on Twitter Yeah, it says that it's bald or dad That Rory works out too much. Is that a word? Oh, it's a word.
Starting point is 00:26:07 It's absolutely a word. Is it mean but senseless talk? Okay, yeah, that's a great phrase. Yeah, no, I learned it. Johnny, like I used to be so far the other way. I was like, I just couldn't stand him because I thought he was just being way too negative and over the top. I've actually gotten so far the other way now in that he's actually even more over the top now, and it's just, it's so funny to me,
Starting point is 00:26:29 that this is the way he's got about things. It's the best, and honestly the best. I mean, he doesn't even try to mix in like, veiled brags, like he just, yeah. When I won in 70, whatever, I won by four shots, right? It's fantastic. I mean, I do love four shots right it's fantastic. I mean I do love I love Val Nicholas. Just again Jack has nothing to do with this event absolutely nothing on after Phil's
Starting point is 00:26:53 miss 62 tweeted out a story that reminded him of his own run at 62. These guys just I mean the lengths they go to talk about themselves it never ceases to amaze me and Jack is always one for that yeah the enough about me what do you think of me yeah yeah yeah no I know but like it was it was great though just obviously stents and rows of fire 63 on Sunday to win and like just the idea that Johnny's in the booth for that like I was really like when Phil almost shot 62 on Thursday, Johnny wasn't actually in the booth at that point. I think it was, I think it was Brandon and Faldon.
Starting point is 00:27:29 And I was just praying that he was going to do it just to see Johnny, like, just to see his head explode live on the air. That's why I was hoping, I think he was out there doing like voodoo stuff on that H.E. Green, willing that ball out of the hole and Nicholson's part. Trying to, you know, trying to best to grab that bottle of champagne with mercury morse or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Yeah. No, he's great. But yeah, the enemies, I thought they were okay, but it just, it fought, swatzes had a big, a big enough leap for me now, but that's actually who I want to see. So, where's the first big leap? I think, for me here, I pay extra for the international golf channel that I get. Unfortunately, it's in Dutch, so I just have it on mute.
Starting point is 00:28:14 But it's mostly synced to the whatever golf channel CBS broadcast that's going on in the States, except for when they do the fluff pieces, they just keep showing golf here. And when they go to commercial, they keep showing golf, keep showing golf. And it is unbelievable how much more you notice when the commercials come in and all the fluff pieces and stuff, because it's like it's 30 to 40% more golf on TV. And it's just none of the crap that comes with it.
Starting point is 00:28:45 And again, maybe casual fans really do love the fluff pieces and the cutaways and stuff from all the action, but I'll never understand putting the camera on the two announcers talking rather than the action going on. You can talk while the action's going on. At some point these broadcasts are going to have to change away from the formula that's been used forever and just show us golf. Well, there was a good piece that Jim and Robert did on Press work this week. But I saw it on Saturday and then they played it again on Sunday. And I'm like, well, why am I seeing
Starting point is 00:29:21 this again? I ran it. Not everyone's's gonna watch as much as we watch this weekend, but like, yeah, no, that kind of stuff is probably gonna have to change at some point soon. How much, so I mean, this feels like forever ago now, but the pre-tournament press conferences, but what did you, did you have a take, I guess, on what Rory had to say before the tournament started about the Olympics and about pleasing everybody and basically just breathing fire all over the Open Championship Media Center. Yeah the people who are like we're epinion to Rory for stripping those and I really don't understand. Like you
Starting point is 00:29:59 know when he like I understand that maybe like he probably shouldn't have maybe not said what he said and the way that he phrased it But like you know, we really can't have it both ways where like we rip into these guys for Speaking their mind and then complain when no one says anything. That's the first thing And then the second thing is like I have yet see how anyone like no one is it's playing to me in any kind of article or anything how anyone, like no one is it's playing to me in any kind of article or anything. No one has said how it's actually Rory playing a stroke play in Brazil is going to actually grow the game. But we have so many, but the day like today, the golf was so fantastic to watch.
Starting point is 00:30:39 And obviously people like us, we're tuned in, we're geared up ready for it. But then when you really think about it, the average person playing, it's like, well, it costs too much, it takes too long, you have rampant sexism in some parts of the world for it. There's a class system that people can't break through. Tell me one, those issues are resolved, and that's when I'll actually believe the game can grow in some meaningful way. Not if you just Rory and Jordan are playing in Brazil. Yeah, I this really didn't fire me up that much but I do have I guess some opinions and takes on it.
Starting point is 00:31:17 It's a little bit opposite of what you're saying. I agree with the whole honesty thing. I love how Rory is almost always very honest, very clear, and like this was one time where he just like had no problems burning to the ground. I'm not going to try to even remotely try to be politically correct here. However, some of the stuff he said, I think it was so unnecessary. Like to just be like, I'm going to watch this stuff that matters. It's like, that was unnecessary. There's no doubt. Yeah, and it's like, man, look, I'm with you. If you don't want to play the Olympics, do it. Again, I'm with you speaking your mind
Starting point is 00:31:51 and being honest about your reasons I'm not wanting to play it. But I don't just take in that shot at it, which is kind of like, I mean, again, I'm so far on Team Rory, but it was like, I don't know. It was hard to really get the swear off on that one. And I gave it the Bubba test. Like if Bubba said that and didn't do it,
Starting point is 00:32:07 I would have flipped out a little bit on it. So I'm very well aware that I'm not necessarily fair. It was my treatment and my judgment of guys when they do stuff like this. But yeah, and as far as growing the game, I agree that, but I don't necessarily think the Olympics. When we say grow the game is going to bring a lot more people playing the game because like you said the issues of playing the game are still all there, but it really is going to be billions of people that watch the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:32:38 I'm not saying billions of people are going to turn into golf, but it could be completely new eyeballs on the sport to watch it. They could have growing interest in watching the sport. Now, do I care about that? Not really. Should Rory care about that? Maybe, but I don't, I'm fine with him saying, you know, that he doesn't feel a responsibility to grow the game.
Starting point is 00:32:59 I am fine with that. It doesn't matter to me. But it is the Olympics. I know that there's a It doesn't matter to me. But it is the Olympics. I know that there's a lot of reasons not to go. But the thing I've, the stance I've had from the very beginning is that, and I'm speaking, even referred to this in one, in one of his press conferences, which I was like, I think he kind of stole the take from me, which I'll, I'll, I'll discuss that with him privately. But I just, I guess that I think when the opening ceremonies go
Starting point is 00:33:21 off, all those lights, the camera's cameras flashing And billions of people watching around the world and the the athletes are walking through the athletes and Matt Kutcher are walking through the opening ceremonies I've told a spot on the team. Yeah, I know it was gonna happen I just haven't feeling they're gonna have a little regret on it when when somebody earns like gold medal that we've never heard of before like it's kind of like Wow, man, this is, this is really something different. This is, you know, I know that they care about the majors, they have their own stroke play events. I get all that. I just think, and I don't know, if it was in the US,
Starting point is 00:33:55 these guys all would have gone, they all would have played. It would have been a non-issue, but the acting like Rio is on the moon. Like it's like the farthest trip they'll ever have to make. These guys go across the pond all the time. Like it's like the farthest trip they'll ever have to make. These guys go across the pond all the time. It's no big deal. I just think that there is something to the Olympics. I think it's probably already ruined. I'm a bit alone on it because a lot of people just love to make fun of it, but I don't know. I'm still planning on least watching a little bit of it. I think I'm going to be
Starting point is 00:34:20 out of town when it goes off, but it's going my long way to take to say. I kind of agree with Roy being honest, I'm with you on that, getting on guys for being honest, but it's a bit unnecessary and I can't put myself in their shoes though. Maybe if I was in their shoes, I wouldn't want to go as well. No, and don't do it wrong. Watching it all, I mean, it is to bring new people in. I have no doubt about that. I think where I kind of took a little bit of issue with it was like the people just laying into the players for stripping it.
Starting point is 00:34:51 It's like, well, the Zika thing, like, is it that bit of a deal? It's probably no more near as big of a deal as people are making it right to be, obviously. But there's so much other stuff going on in Rio right now that I wouldn't blame anybody for not wanting to take any part of. Yep. And on top of that, it's like, you know what, these guys, sure, like it's going to be really cool for somebody to win a gold medal.
Starting point is 00:35:14 But I mean, there's also, they also, the last time was in the Olympics was 1904. Like, they have never once grown up with the idea of, wow, you know what would be really cool if I could win a Google battle It's like they've spent their entire lives focused on one end all terms and winning majors and all that It's just it's never been a priority So when you when you throw that in with with all the other stuff going around a real like it doesn't I'm cool with them stripping it. Yeah No, I mean all that makes sense and I think the security issues in real are a little more real than If you're not gonna be able to go and enjoy yourself and feel safe It's not worth going and I've talked to at least one player who's not eligible for the team obviously
Starting point is 00:35:52 But he said he's like I wouldn't go like if I had a chance I would not go It's like I like I like my life. I'm not in a huge hurry to To put my health and safety at risk to go down there. I was like all right That's hard to argue with I get all that But I feel like these guys have just been like, shitting on this event as just a stupid event outside of the location of it and the risk of it. I know they screwed the format up, clearly they really missed an opportunity to make a team event.
Starting point is 00:36:20 And they would have had a much better turnout how they made it a team event. But I don't know, that's a lot on the Olympics. I think it's been kind of beaten to death. It's really pretty minor scrap blip on the calendar. What's that said, if when actually one cure that just went in the gold medal, I'll be all in. So just keep that in mind.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Can I bet somewhere on Kutcher to finish exactly third place? Like it? Probably. I think I feel like if golf somehow stays in the Olympics, that it should be called, it shouldn't be a bronze medal, it should be like the Kutur medal, like a third place medal. How upset is he that like he doesn't get to color coordinated outfit?
Starting point is 00:36:56 He's always all over the place, and like Adidas already has everything set up. So, you know, him and his turquoise hat are just gonna have to stay home. It's like mismatching different has everything set up. So, you know, him and his turquoise hat are just now have to stay home. It's like mismatching different shades of brown probably. The turquoise hat and his brown shoes, like, just get out of here. Phil on Saturday went, I'm trying to think of the combination here, was it blue, pants, black shirt, blue hat? Yeah, it was something weird.
Starting point is 00:37:23 I mean, can we talk about the binder clip too? We zoomed past out. I went too fast past the open. We shouldn't be done talking about the open because the Olympics does not deserve to be talked about immediately after this open trip. Oh, absolutely not. What's the deal with the binder clip?
Starting point is 00:37:37 Is that feel just like, just trolling us? Like he's like, you know what, Twitter hasn't been been talking about me in a couple of days. Let's see what I can do here. I'm just gonna, we found a random binder clip in his hotel and put it on his hat. So like, what did he say?
Starting point is 00:37:49 So I'm thinking about how like, what the wind like he was working about his hat falling off. It's like, how, like, it wasn't that windy. Like, we're not talking about like the wind that was at the old course last year. Like, we're talking about wind that was definitely very playable.
Starting point is 00:38:03 So like, I honestly think he like, like someone like left it in his hotel room previously. Like, he saw him, and he's like, you know what? I'm gonna put this on my head. He's played in 22 other opens before this. Like, and he's never had a paperclip that his hat to his hair. Exactly. It's like, it's the whole aggressive colors thing all over again. It's like, you know what? I'm just gonna put a paper clip in my hat and see if anyone notices it was the aggressive color paper clip
Starting point is 00:38:30 That was the herb binder clip as the key man. Those those just some absolutely hilarious Twitter accounts that popped out from that Oh, Judged board. It's like the did Stephen boat break 80 account that followed me a few weeks ago, too It's like I don't know what you people are doing, but you also need to stop. You told me you would follow me if I made that Twitter account. No, I think with Phil, I'm still back to Phil. I don't know what you're feeling as before you go to bed tonight. You probably complete piece of himself first of all on the on the jet on the way back
Starting point is 00:39:07 He's probably bet he's gambled and lost that silver plate silver medal that he won like it's lost Oh, yeah, it's gone by now, right? Oh, absolutely Like the the 40,000-dollar bottle of wine that Amy picked out white that's drawn to Sean Zach from golf.com tweeted out, as we've been on here, that I forget who, or I can see, your web simsons, one of them, Keegan Bradley, and a few others just headed off number one T
Starting point is 00:39:34 to play more golf at Trune right now. What are the odds? Yeah, what are the odds that Phil shows up on that first screen trying to press the bets? That would be the best. That would be amazing. That's officially the last gambling fill reference I'm going to make this week. We need to be into death as I do.
Starting point is 00:39:52 I'm done. I'm retired. Okay, I've paid text messages from him and had it since all week. So I can't really throw any stones in that one. I emptied the chamber. All my fill jokes. I recycled every one I had. I got a lot of heat from people on recycling tweets this week So you didn't you didn't cry and Jordan the shank golf ball though. I did not do that you did that I don't think I crying Jordan anything this week. Wow. I'm losing it. I'm losing my touch
Starting point is 00:40:18 So we talked a little bit about Rory's comments Did you make much of speech comments after his round on Saturday saying he thinks the media doesn't really treat him fairly, he gets too many negative questions and he's having a lot better year than people make it out to be. Uh, I didn't see it stuff, I think we, none of this is early, we put, I think the media in general, I do think they do pick at speeds a little more than they probably should Same thing with Rory's and then with Jason Daylight whenever we've talked about this before like whenever whenever there's any slight hint that they've started to struggle You know they'll they'll finish they'll think they'll miss one cut and then they'll finish like T45 T22 or something and people are asking like What's wrong with them? I do think that they are a little unfair so I understand his
Starting point is 00:41:09 hesitation and his frustration towards that But part of me also thinks too that it's very an idea if he's bringing this up at a press conference and the way that he said it It's very clearly in his head. Yeah, and and that's And that's where it starts to get a little weird for me. Because I think that it's, pardon me, now it does wonder how much of it is actually effective. I mean, obviously, he's going to be fine ultimately. He's too talented not to be. But if he's thinking about it, and he seemed really pissed
Starting point is 00:41:43 when he was putting the professor, it's like, is was starting to affect you negatively. It seems likely that it is at this point. Yeah, let's talk about this a little bit with Tron on Saturday. It doesn't really register that much with me. I kind of compare this year for him to Rory 2013, which is still a bit unfair to Speed. Speed's won twice this year, Rory didn't win on the PJ tour that year.
Starting point is 00:42:13 It was kind of his year after the big year, he followed 2014 was a huge year for Rory, but hadn't occurred at that point. 2012, I think he got to number one in the world, was number one in the world entering 2013, signed the big Nike contract, things got a little hairy for me, with Drew and Honda, excited to whizmeteath walked off the course after nine holes. It was just kind of like a little bit of immaturity shining through from Rory's side and that it just seemed to get everything got really big and really real for him really fast and he had not was not quite
Starting point is 00:42:46 fully ready to handle that and I think he would admit that. That's kind of the feeling I get right now with speed and that what he did last year winning two majors, almost winning in Grand Slam, winning the FedEx Cup, follow, it just sets such an unrealistic precedent for what we can expect from him and that he, I mean, he means two swings away from winning the Masters this year, from being a major champion this year. And those two swings don't happen, none of these questions happen. I mean, it'd be like, wow, he hasn't followed up the major win that well in these US Open and Open Championship. But it wouldn't be, it would be registering on the scale at all right now, I don't think. So I think there is a bit of overreaction to it
Starting point is 00:43:25 and I think he's just gotta be like, he's gotta just dread going in that press room. It does sound like it's starting to wear on him. He's gotta dread just like dealing with all these questions like about how bad you're playing and whatnot when he's really not been that bad. I mean, he's not striking as well as last year but again, that shouldn't be the barometer.
Starting point is 00:43:42 And I mean, I know he's signed big endorsement deals and his former number one player in the world and, you know, that maybe it is fair to hold him to that really, really high standard. But I'm just kind of like, man, this is probably somewhere in the middle, just a tron set as well in the middle between last season and this season as to what we can expect from him. But man, I just, I don't know. I can kind of see where he's coming from. At the same time, man, you don't, you don't want to feed, don't want to feed the guys that are that are driving this narrative, this exact stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:13 You know what I mean? Because that's going to get him the exact, it's going to become a story like everything does. Well, it's after. I think that that's why I'm just a little concerned, because it's just like, well, I ultimately like I said he's going to be fine, but like I just part of me now just wonders how much he's thinking about this stuff. Like is he just getting so frustrated that like he can't play to the level that we know he's capable of playing that. Like what that said though, like it's not like he's been struggling, like he won, he won what like five
Starting point is 00:44:43 six weeks, no, I just, yeah, about six, seven weeks just yeah about six seven weeks ago to all at the Dean and the Luka yeah it's colonial just called yeah it's colonial but like yeah so like he won he didn't it wasn't that one or that he's won like he's got a bunch of top five this year he's got two wins like he absolutely killed everyone in Hawaii like I'm not really all that concerned about it but he stood good not to be true, that's the thing. But now I do kind of wonder how much he's centered about it and if that's actually seep in it. Because I mean we've seen how it's full of so-and-it's pressive he is on the course too, like in part he's just thinking about where his head's
Starting point is 00:45:19 up. But he's going to be fine. I wouldn't worry too much about it. Yeah, and again, the run he went on for five straight majors is, if you just sprinkled in whatever he finished at the US Open and whatever he finished this week in between that run of not finishing outside the top four of a major in five straight majors, no one would have thought anything of it. Tiger went on a two year span in 0304,
Starting point is 00:45:43 where he had maybe two top tens at majors if I remember that stat right like It's a swing change. I know, but it's like these spain like To call like a two-tournament major slump to call that to bring attention to that That's not a swamp. That's not a normal thing like if we're gonna do that. I mean I Jason day the success He's had in the last year outweweighs, speeds, successes, ridiculous, as that sounds, it's accurate. So he's earned more will, or I guess, a good will, I guess you could say,
Starting point is 00:46:14 in that regard, but Jason Day's been a non-factor in the last three majors, was he a factor this year at the Masters? Like if we're gonna be short-sighted, like we should be dishing out in days, in days direction too, you know? No, exactly. I mean, well.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Yeah, that's not, sorry, that's not by that fair. He was T-A to the US Open T-Town at the Masters in T-22 this week, so maybe that was a little unfair. But it didn't, though. I've worked, but I don't really recall thinking at really any point in those three events that you had like a you like a great shot at one end of the either. Yeah, you know, like and so that and and that's
Starting point is 00:46:49 fine, but there's nothing. Yeah, that's not the standard. That's not the standard, right? Right. I mean, look, if he was going out there and just missing cuts, if he was missing cuts in all the majors and like, you know, three out of five tour stops or something like that, then sure we did talk about it, but I just, now I'm actually wondering how much of it is affecting his game. That's all. Hopefully not too much. He's obviously used fantastic and he's great for everything. So I wouldn't worry too much about it, but you never know.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Yeah. I think, I don't want to say, again, a two win season and one that he almost won a major. I don't want to call it a wash, but I feel like he almost just needs some time off. It's crazy scheduled at the beginning of the year, kind of just through things off. He just looks uncomfortable in the course and I don't know if it's because we notice it more because he's on TV more and whatnot, but it just, something just doesn't seem totally right with him.
Starting point is 00:47:39 He seems a little a bit petulant out there on the course. Maybe when he was winning five times a year, that seemed to oh that's just Jordan being Jordan now it seems whiny but I don't enjoy watching him as much as I did last year again last year was historic but I did I'm not saying I'm not a big fanboy for a speed anymore but it is wearing on me at least a little bit not as much as it is on other people because I think other people are to probably don't like him I mean there's definitely people that are not fans of him at this point, which you couldn't imagine that a year ago. No, it's actually. I mean, people, it's it's gone. That has gone. I'm in a talk, it's that's gone too far. But like, you know, again, like this is, this is, I mean, part of,
Starting point is 00:48:18 part of me thinks that like it comes like, it's a true tweet about this too, but how it comes with the territory. Yeah. And I'm like, yeah, I get it. It does. But, you know, it's kind of ridiculous. The standard that he's been asked to live up to, too. I don't, he's not, he's not missing cuts. Like, he's not going out there and just, you know, shanking balls left and right and, you know, doing, you know, firing eighties everywhere. Like, he's, golf is tough.
Starting point is 00:48:43 This is what happens sometimes. Like, it's not, it's not the end of the world. Yeah. Um, who will on that? I mean, I, I, again, I'm not a hot take at all. This is tough. I play in the world would not be shocked at all, to see him win the PGA in a couple of weeks or, yeah, I'm too late. So I mean, what, with that, I don't know how much you know about Baltic Rol, do you have any guys that you, and my win, you mean finish five shots back of Sergio is what you're Okay, there's so that's what I guess did you just answer my question is that what your pick is gonna be for Paul to throw up? I can I actually can't remember of we did we did a podcast
Starting point is 00:49:17 We didn't have the year where we pitch the major winners and I honestly can't remember who I picked. Oh, okay I have to go back and find it. I just but It might have been matching, you know, another I'm thinking about it, but. You already lost that bet, man. You already owe me around the golf whenever we finally actually meet in person. You owe me around the golf. I know. It makes me, it makes me shate every time I think about it.
Starting point is 00:49:38 No, I, I, I, baltasrol, I don't know a ton about, to be honest, I know way more about true than I do, but multiseroll. I mean it was last there what like oh five I think, PGA. Yeah, something something like that fill on there. I mean you know I mean he could be the head of the cat right now. No, as crazy as that sounds. I mean he could be the cat of luck now. So I was just saying the odds even up he's got to be less than 15 to 1 to win the PGA now, I would think. But I would sense, oh yeah. Um, man, it's hard for me not to be a little bit bitter, because this was almost feels like Jack Nicholas aged 46 run at it. It's just, uh,
Starting point is 00:50:20 I sense an earned it. It's so hard to be upset about it. I know. You can't be upset about it. I know you can't you can't be upset about it I'm not I'm not I'm not it was it was a great it was a great day It like it just no one's earned it more than Stenson just earned it like it. No, this is this I'm I'm talking this up to this being Having just ended like two hours ago, and I've still haven't fully Grasped everything that just happened and I'm still kind of on this rollercoaster a little bit, but When it's worth I'm seeing like 25 to one right now for Phil. Oh, oh Okay, that's gone dip, but I'm gonna have to get on that right now, but
Starting point is 00:50:53 For being not having a horse in this race at all you are perhaps the biggest rider cup fan I know definitely biggest of anyone. I know that does not have a horse in the race, but I Typically don't like knee jerk reactions after like a tournament that's months out and saying how is this going to impact the Ryder Cup? But I do think this week will have a lot of impact. As we get, you know, there's only one more major left with a points count double. We get a lot better picture of who we think is going to be on the team. So I do think this was a significant week and that JD Holmes earned a ton of points.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Are there any other takeaways from a Radar Cup perspective you have from this week? Not necessarily from this week. I mean, it's been a little while since you and I talked about this, but I mean, you guys, like Europe, Europe wasn't looking so good on paper about what starts months ago. But like you, you should be a little scared. You know, obviously, you go, they're big four guys up at the top there, whether with Rory and Rose and Stenson and Sergio. They were always going to be there, but like you look down further on the list, and it's like, you probably should be a little concerned about Daniel Willett and Matthew Fitzpatrick and Andy Sullivan and does
Starting point is 00:52:05 like that. It's just, yeah, it's not going to be as much of a take watch as I think you and I talked about back in January. I'm definitely shifting that direction too. Mostly though because of the month leading up to this, of how lackluster, US golf has been. I guess I'd say month leading up to the US open because DJ's breakthrough was pretty big. And the US, the most the US team actually had
Starting point is 00:52:29 really good strong weeks and true in this week. But we're talking about a completely different style of golf. Again, we're two months out from the Ryder Cup. It's impossible to really say that this is a good sign for the US team, what not. I think JB, yeah, yeah, the big takeaways, I think JB Holmes is now gonna be on the team because he's gonna skyrocket up to about,
Starting point is 00:52:49 I thought I think I saw Doug Ferguson or somebody tweet that he'll be fourth or fifth in the rankings, I think at this point. But it is a log jam on the US team between like, Zach Johnson came in this week at around four million, four thousand points and Holmes was at 12 at 3,000. So there's just a ton of guys in that weird phase.
Starting point is 00:53:06 But yeah, I mean, there's only DJ and Spieth have essentially locked up a spot on the team. Right. So it's like, yeah, I mean, you could have anywhere from you didn't have anybody from from Phil. Like right now, I think Fowler's outside of a guaranteed spot. Yeah. So like, you know, he, like you never would have thought
Starting point is 00:53:26 the last year that that followers didn't need a captain's pick. Which is basically like the worst thing for Davis Love because you can't, you can't just leave Fowler off the team. So, you know, what he wants, he absolutely wants Fowler to qualify so that he doesn't have to, you know, instead of someone to like, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:44 Charlie Hoffman, or both of them, or something? How worried are you that, like, he's doing a stage appearance on Light Web Simpson? Or something, like, you know, I wrote a piece a little while ago saying, making a case for Jim Feard, and the reason I made the case for it was I was looking at the roster,
Starting point is 00:54:03 and I'm like, you know, you have a ton of bombers bombers out here. You're gonna need someone to find the middle. He's been playing well since he got back from the wrist injury to me and made a little bit of sense. And I got absolutely crucified. Yeah. Um, it, I think Kevin Van Volkerberg's made the point in how much like that class of players, like those guys in their young 50s, late 40s, like look out for each other in historical reference. I forget their example he gave, but maybe Jay Haas taking some guys in the upper 40s and whatnot and the guys they've known for 20 years and their friends with
Starting point is 00:54:36 have a hard time not taking it, spending a cap and it's pick on them. So I can see it happening. I can see a scenario that I've somehow talked myself into that comes up September. If there's not a clear cut 12th guy to add to the team, I could go with that. As much as Furek's past first of all. That was my theory on it as well. I wasn't saying, oh my god, you need to pitch him fear. Like it was, it was basically like, well, who else are you going to pick at this point? I guess I'd have to look at, I don't remember this.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Is it his four ball record? It's a complete joke. Like he's like two, nine, and whatever, and one. Yeah, I'd have to look that up too. So, all right, let's say you make him the 12th guy on the team and you want to send him out in four sums, which I think he's got a decent record at if I remember right. The US team does not have a good record in four sims. If you want to play him twice in four sims and play a single match, maybe play him once in four sims, I can latch onto that idea. But if there's hotter, younger players that are going to bring a lot more fire and passion
Starting point is 00:55:41 and just flay to it and care a lot more about it. But between him and Patrick Reed getting a last spot or something like that, it's pretty easy decision in my mind. So his record, his record going into 2014 was 1-8 and 1-4 balls. Any one one of them, if I remember, because I was citing that record during 2014, like every other tweet, I think. So. Yeah, I don't know. Like, look, in a perfect world,
Starting point is 00:56:08 some of like guys like Justin Thomas and Tony Fienaula, those are the guys that you want up there and qualifying, playing well. But you know, there's definitely more than more than decent chance and a thing that you have guys like Coachur and Simpson and whoever else either made in the team or beat close. And that's, you know, you throw them
Starting point is 00:56:26 and it densitize like, you know, Fitzpatrick and Willa and, you know, all those guys. And then it gets a little dicey. Isn't it crazy? Steve Sturker has more rider cut points than Tony Fienault has. Oh my God. Fienault is 50 second. Going at.
Starting point is 00:56:40 That seems wrong. Well, so he only got like 300,000. The tournament he won was like a very small purse because it was an opposite field event. Yeah. But yeah, that does not seem right. Something seems wrong there. Hey, look, if Shurikim's playing the way he's playing right now,
Starting point is 00:56:56 you might need to take him anyway. Yeah. I think he's going there as an assistant with Tiger. And so if you don't have to worry about Tiger, make it that so. Yeah. I haven't done this exercise, adding up points for everyone, like adding up everyone's fall series points. consistent with Tiger. I think so. You don't have to worry about Tiger making it so. Yeah. I haven't done this exercise, adding up points for everyone, like adding up everyone's
Starting point is 00:57:08 fall series points. I think Kevin Nile would get a bump from this, Kisner would get a bump from this. So I'm being biased in cherry picking Justin Thomas and that he made about 1.5 million or something like that, you know, two events. He finished third and then one in Malaysia. That would put him jump him to like 10th in points right now. Again, the other guys may jump in the list as well, but those of those points don't count at all.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Still a little bit or about, but at the same time, he's not, I don't know, so he's not shown consistent enough play to make me think that he's like, he should be on the Ryder Cup team definitively, but I feel, the US Open was definitely this way. He led the team, led the entire field in birdies or better. So he makes a ton of bogies, but he also makes a ton of birdies. And I feel like that's a great, great four ball player you could have on that team. It's
Starting point is 00:57:58 a guy that's going to go out there and just maybe makes six birdies. He might eject and be in his pocket on three or four of the holes. That's fine. Paramounts of speed or somebody that's going to make a lot of pars. And I think you've got, I think you've got a potential rider cover from that perspective. But you can set up the course, they can set up the course however they want to. They can make the fairways wide, suit the bombers if they want to. It usually sets up very easy. He plays well on easier courses, I think. I mean, relatively speaking, in Malaysia you want it like 28 under or something like that. I can make the case for it still. I know point wise he's not close, but and I know I'm he's my boy and I'm biased there, but it could happen. No, of anyone who's currently not qualified, I think you can probably make the argument that he's the most talented of the of the actual group that doesn't qualify yet.
Starting point is 00:58:45 It's just I mean he's had trouble being consistent like you said. So it's it's it's stuff. But I mean I do think that you know what you said, but if you put him with somebody like might speak or someone like Brant Senneter even when you put him with a guy like that and I think it and I think you can really work. Which is kind of why I was thinking about Furik previously. What are you going to do? You can't just have guys like Cupco and Thomas and whoever else is going out there and bombing the ball and having no idea where it's going. Yeah. That's true. It's very true. We just got a random question on Twitter. I didn't even float out the idea of podcast questions, but Ola Scholender once says players FedExCup raised to Dubai, Ryder Cup, and now the open for Stenson. Hall of Famer. I don't know how you factor in. I don't think he's qualified for it. Don't you
Starting point is 00:59:43 have to like specifically qualify for it now? Yeah, well, they just got rid of the international ballot. Right? So it's like, I don't know. I think the tough thing, too, is like, the tough thing is that there aren't as many wins anymore for these guys. Like, Phil's got like what, like, 45 wins or something. So ridiculous. But you're never never gonna see a tour player now.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Like if you can get, if you get into the double digits, like you're doing incredible stuff. Yeah. And so like that's, I would, I think at a quit without ever really doing any research on it, I would say yes, but that's, I mean, yeah, it's good question. But to be honest, I do just don't care about the whole thing. I love that stuff. Yeah, it's good question, but to be honest, I do just don't care about the golf thing. I'm not really terrible at the whole thing. I really don't.
Starting point is 01:00:29 I really the fact that Jackson's probably going to make it and just make like, you know, I don't care about the golf all day. But all right, Sarcin, anything else we missed from the open championship and we covered all bases? Probably. I mean, we can I didn't know on and on. Yeah, what happened to know. But I mean, so that's go on and on. Yeah. What happened to that?
Starting point is 01:00:45 But I mean, so that's, I will never see it another day like this. And if anyone listening to this didn't see it for some reason, you need to do whatever you can to figure that out. It needs to be like, immediately, like, golf's greatest rounds. It then needs to be on there. Like, it's that's tailor made for golf channel, golf's greatest rounds, ESPN classic. It could use a 30 for 30 for all I know
Starting point is 01:01:06 I would be shocked I would be shocked if golf channel doesn't have it on at some point this coming week Oh, yeah, they have to yeah, they have the rights to immediate rights to it. So it's got it's an easy one for that That's a layup the Canadian open field this way. You're not gonna do it. Oh, you might as well just you know As is well played as anybody crying Jordan all of Canada because of the field this week. Well, I mean, you can if you like. I'll leave that one to you. I as a Canadian citizen, I'd probably be I'd score. I've just I'd be it's belt from the country. So I actually have a perfect I have a perfect gift for it. And you'll hate it because it's a wrestling one too and you love wrestling. So is it the Con Michael's thing? I don't know. One of the way the flag out or whatever. Oh, yeah, yeah
Starting point is 01:01:45 Okay, I know what you're doing. Sorry in advance. I know I'm not Canadian so this the apology is not implied But sorry All right, Sarcen. Thank you for helping me recap a truly historic day in golf Man only one more major in two more weeks and we're offered eight and a half months nine months of it At least we have a rider kept this year, but it's amazing how fast these majors have gone this year, but they've all been a lot of fun. They've all been pretty crazy. Yeah, it's been incredible.
Starting point is 01:02:13 And we'll do it again in a couple of weeks and then Ryder Cup mows a little bit more to that too. I'm going to do all I can in the meantime to get you to be rooting for the U.S. Come Ryder Cup time. Good luck. All right, thank you for the US come right or cup time All right, thank you for the time sir. We'll talk to you again soon Be the right club today That's better than most
Starting point is 01:02:46 That is better than most. Better than most!

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