No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 473: Solheim Cup Day 2 / Tour Championship Recap

Episode Date: September 6, 2021

Team Europe holds a 9-7 lead over Team USA and we recap a spectacular Sunday of golf at Inverness and preview the lineups for Monday singles. Then it's on to Atlanta where Patrick Cantlay wins the Tour Championship over Jon Rahm, plus our reaction to NLU Young Hitter Justin Lower locking up his PGA tour card at the KFT finals and much more.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No-Lang-Up Podcast, Sully here, Sunday night in Toledo. We are recording this coming off the golf course of the second round day two. The team portion of the Soul Hime Cup is wrapped.

We're going to chat a lot about that to my left, laying in my bed for the night DJ Pie. Hello, DJ. Not a lot of context given there, but I like it. Happy to be here. We're in my hotel room. Not really happy to be here, like physically, specifically,

but you know, happy to be in the room with you guys. Big Randy is here. He has had just a joyous week out of one of his favorite golf fans in the world. Hello, Big Randy. Hello, hello, hello. Unlike DJ Pie, I am fully clothed. You know, I felt like I feel like it's three day Christmas and I don't know if I'm cut out for

this. I feel like the little kid that I'm tuckered out right now. It was a long day. It was a big day, but excited to talk off. So in parachuting in, coming in in hot firing on all cylinders with takes blowing up other spectators that were saying bad things about Madeline Saxon today. Mr. TC is here. Hello and welcome. DJ. No, I will not paint you like one of my French girls. Got good to be here. Good to be back in Toledo. Yeah, you know what? If you're going to talk shit about Madeline and the gallery, I'm going to talk shit to you. So we have conflicting reports of how that conversation went, but I think we may get to that. But before we do get to Solheim, the folks at Calaway want to give a shout out to you might

have guessed it. Mr. John Rom, completing his first official season. As a Calaway staffer, he of course is using the epic speed driver, epic speed fairway woods, apex TCB irons, use the jaws jaws forged wedges as well as the Odyssey Whitehot OG Rossi S putter and the Chrome Soft X golf ball. I got a little quick quiz for you guys. I want a little rapid fire answers here. Um, what, what, what, what's John Rob's world ranking? 14. Close. He's actually number one.

What was John Rom in total driving this year? One. First. What was he in scoring average? One. First. What was he in strokes game T to green? One.

Fourteen. What was he in par three scoring? Oh, this one, I know. Seventh. One. What was he in par five scoring? One. That's easy.

What about money earned? I don't know how they calculated this one because of the FedEx Cup. That's truly my V second. And top 10 finishes. First, correct. He had 14 top 10 finishes. So a shout out from the Cowelloy family to John Rahman. I know you're a big listener, John, on a just a tremendous, tremendous season.

And we will talk some tour championship. But we got to start with the Soulhyme Cup. What, uh, let Randy, I'm going to throw it to you first. What's this, what's the story of the day in your mind? We spent all day out there second day in a row. We're a little tired. We're a little haggard little sunburn, if I may say. What's the biggest story in your mind? The biggest story in my mind was an American resurgence that was a little bit neutered. Neuter is a good word at the end by the Europeans. I thought it was a fantastic day at golf. I thought the crowds seemed louder today.

I think there was, you know, those American cheers were reverberating across Inverness, but, you know, we'll get into some of the matches and some of the golf that we saw, but just, you know, good playing by both sides. Randy, I would argue that it was a little bit fluffed up by a lot of feet of made putts from the Americans. You're saying the crowd noises? No, the resurgence. The resurgence.

Well, it wasn't really that- Well, let me- I don't know how much you were- I'd drawn obviously with travel in this morning. I don't know if you saw the early, early stuff. It was bleak, man, for the Americans, with like coming out of the gates with all blue on the board. I mean, Rainy, it's funny.

I'm glad he went to you because if you were to ask me, like, what's the story of the day? It's a hard question to answer. There's a bunch of like half stories that didn't really end the way you thought they were going to, right? It was ebbs and flows, truly. I felt like the momentum swallowing back and forth.

Like, yeah, early in the morning, I think it was four blue matches on the board. The US was already down three points. Nelly Corda is getting a ASB. Yeah, we were talking like five in. Oh my god, like this might get away from the American which Nelly like she's Rory She's just not a grinder. She doesn't have it They look spent man. They they they just look really gassed. I think Nelly problem with that

It's like she's like just one a major so you call her Rory. I get a little boys won four majors right? But it's been seven years. No, but I think like just game wise, they remind, like if the putts aren't going in and she's just a little bit off, it's like she's not gonna, the body language is gonna be kind of lack of daisicle. And, you know,

She's not the most creative player, right? So in these conditions are kind of the firmness and the shot making required. She's just like, she is like a PGA tour player. Like, she's her game is very stock. Like, hit it high, you're relatively high, you know, be, you know, not really bombing gouge, but hit a lot of good wedges and put the lights out from 15 feet. And this makes me respect her a lot less when you put it that way. Well, this course just requires a little extra layer of precision and it

has been awesome, awesome to watch in that regard. But I mean, the very first match out was Daniel Kang and Austin Ernst against Georgia Hall and Madeline Sackstrom. And we went pretty much the distance with that match today, which speaking of like the Europe birdied the first hole, you know like it was such a tone setter. Can't give a big enough shout out to Georgia Hall's shot in the number one. I think Madeline drove it through the, through the fairway at number one

as has many players did for some reason. That's a whole other conversation. I could not wrap my head or other than nerves being on the first tee. Yeah, you need a big, I would have to hit a huge driver. I don't know which is a whole other conversation about like is the driver too easy to hit and does it negate nerves whole other conversation. But yeah, Georgia Hall kind of weird lie. This golf course she made that shot look so much easier than it was. It's just

a awesome shot to set the tone like you said. Yeah. And then Madeline pours in the plot. And then they birdie the second and it's like, oh my god, like it's, it seemed like it, yeah, it was just crazy. And then to the Americans credit, they battle back. It was the biggest concern though this morning was like after all the fireworks yesterday and all the emotions yesterday of, you know, a very conscious decision to send Madeline out first.

Yeah, totally. And is she gonna be able, like, of course, she's chomping at the bit to go out. And is she gonna be too, I felt like this kind of the last, you know, this morning and then yesterday afternoon as well, of like, she's so ready to go out, she's so ready to do it. And then after like seven or eight holes,

you almost have to refocus yourself. And you, you know, you kind of burned so bright that you, you kind of fizzled out a little bit. Hard to keep that for four hours. Four hours. Yeah. She, it felt like, you know, I loved to walk off, of course, back up, hit five lips today, couldn't make a putt.

Like that, watching her today was like, we were honestly keeping track of how many times she just hit lips so freaking hard. Like not like, not running over the edge edge like balls diving into the hole and popping out and puts from like off the green and it just felt like she did not get enough out of playing really, really well. She did say that means everything's going into my. And so you know she won that warning.

And in the interest of like, oh, you guys just I will say her flood chip on 16 was pivotal in that match Georgia Hall driven it greenside Madeline was playing the second shot and in literally kind of flubbed it left it a Difficult chip them for Georgia Hall who then chipped it up and they made par but that only tied the whole they lose Eventually by one so it was yeah you know, a little different round from Madeline today. Some putts go in that shot on 16 and I think they get that match. But the main thing I took away from that was just Austin and Danielle just willing themselves to

kind of get that point. Like they started out the first couple of holes, like pumping up the crowd. And when you're two down, you have to, you kind of, it's a fake until you make it, right? And to their credit, they just kept at it. They kept at it. Every green they walk to, they like, right, like, like pump the crowd up. And they said, that was a conscious thing to try to get some

noise out on the golf course for the groups behind them and ramp up the crowd for the groups that were coming in next. Right. Just get them ready to keep the energy going. And actually, when, when Austin, when Austin is not putting well, yeah, there was some shaky. And that's where it was like, the golf wasn't the best in that match.

And I turned to you guys at one point. I was just like, I hate what I'm about to say because I've never been this guy. But I honestly think that the crowd just kind of willed them to victory. Right. It was a one up win. And it just felt like everything that went down to the last couple of holes yesterday for the US, like it just went the

Europeans way. And they just needed one to just like, Hey, this is a coin flip. This could go either way. And it went their way. And it just kind of snuck that point. And it really did just kind of flip things. I mean, who knows how much of effect that really has. But then Lexi Thompson drains a bomb put on 17 for them to win their her and Brittany Alta-Marie win their Forsems match two and one made a couple made another couple to like she made a few pots. Cup Show does the same thing. 17 and then yeah they get up to a Cup Show dream show. For Joe had a decent day on seven Cup Show had a great day. Yeah, you think about that. And her and the first match then chipped in in the afternoon at 17 for

Bernie. For some is the best. For some so much fun to watch. The flow is fantastic. It's easier. I mean, television networks can't keep up with more than eight balls in play to begin with. They couldn't keep up with three balls in play this morning. Yeah, that we won't get we won't get into that.

We were there's a reason we're here watching in person and not watching on TV. But, but that was it. That was three points for the Americans in the morning, which is absolutely what they had to do after yesterday. And you guys are giving Mel and Leona a short shrift though. You're right. They beat a shit out of Nelly. They nailed it.

They did. They did. They did. That had a good chance to get to, did it ever get to six down? It did. Yeah. As you say, I thought they had them, it was a true like no one, no one gets Nelly quarter seven down type of moment when they, they fought back. But when she, yes, she eagled the, yeah,

exactly. Leon, I'm a guyer. Stars born officially. I mean, some, hey, guys, people in Ireland, you got to alert us. I know. Why won't you guys, Why won't you tell us? Nobody mentioned Leon into us. We had no idea she was coming.

No, I need a little heads up on these things guys. Like what's even playing well coming in? Why won't anybody want us about this? We can't keep track of everyone. But no, they are fired up at Ireland for one of their... I didn't even think I fully realized before her. This is like maybe the greatest Irish woman player player ever like there's first ever in the soul Yeah, which is kind of wild shame on Irish women, you know, you know, maybe there was some there were

Presol, maybe some greats presul hand that we're not familiar with. She's very well could be but Gosh, pretty small population. It is but there's a lot of there's a lot of you know top players on the downside. So yeah, she was just tremendous. I think I think was that and Cup Show like that was a very very they didn't lead till till 14 or 15. That's what I'm saying is it was it looked bad and the US just flipped it and the like the going from it looking bleak to winning a point and then the other matches flipping like that noise this morning was it was freaking awesome now granted I mean they're they're out

there they're what six seven holes behind because because because they just can't can't hit the ball within four or five minutes just wait to route to bro she's right the middle she's gonna it's gonna be a massive traffic she's gonna clog it all up. Look like the 405 out there to borrow TC this time of day. I do want to say back in that first match, I was so impressed with Georgia Hall. Oh, gosh.

Do you see that? Just really those are my notes as well. Pudding the absolute crap out of the ball. Made so many clutch puts on 15. It's very, very difficult back left little location. Uphill left to right or that she had to make for par from like 15 feet. There was just a true, you got to blend the line speed, but that was a very difficult put. And she poured it right in the center.

And that's what I, some big par pots. That's, I said on Twitter, I was like, I clutch par saving put on opposing, opposing soil, just like reverberates, like weirdly quietly throughout the golf course. It's like, ooh, ooh, that just was cold. I was impressed with Leon as putting to you for the most part. I mean, she just made so many whole havers, whole winners, whole savers that her ball striking obviously is unbelievable and just the way she plays golf is fantastic to watch. But for a rookie, the only person that's playing five matches for the Europeans and goes out and just makes everything seemingly, it's just cannot wait to watch

her mind. And she has not been beaten and she looks like she is relishing like sticking it to the Americans on American soil, which is awesome. Her and Cup Show. We'll go over the singles matches, but she's got Cup Show. That's the top two performers I'd say so far on each side or going head to head. It's crazy. One in 12 chance that that would happen.

Speaking of Cup Show, Randy, we're talking about four sims pairings and who you like to put together. I always, we're talking to some people and they're like, you know, it makes sense to put the cord us together because they're identical players, right? You want someone you can club, someone who you can, you know, really mimic your game after and just try to get into a little bit of a rhythm.

It seems like Cup Show and Lizette play complete opposite games from watching them. Like Cup Show just murders the ball. Lizette kind of bunts it around. They looked awesome together. So we're kind of talking about beforehand and just I knew you had some thoughts on that. Well, yeah, I think that the philosophy of creating like groupings with with four sums, you know, I think the the conventional wisdom that we've heard on the ground this week is you try to pair similar games and four sums and then opposite games and four ball. But as DJ and I were talking about,

it's like when you pair opposites in four sums and they click, it's like such a high ceiling. It's the next level. Because you get the best of both worlds. Yeah. But if it goes poorly, it can inspire you. You can blow up on a launch pad. Yeah.

And I think Lizette to their credit, I mean, Lizette and and Jennifer are they are Bibing to use a word and it's yeah, it's really worked I was thinking about like the Zette and Cup Show make a lot of sense because if Alright, Cup Show if we're just classifying her as a longer hitter, right? So if she's bombing drives that means a lot more wedges for Lizette, right? And Lizette is able to compete at a high level because she's so good with her hybrids and able to you know Hit it to where people are hitting eight irons, right?

But if she's in there she's like world world world world class with her wedges So she got more wedges in with cupcho driving now flip the other way Lizette furthest back further back off the tee cupcho has able to hit longer irons You know her longer clubs in or whatever where she is, like, skilled with more club head speed, like that sets up pretty well for. And if you get that working to your point, they end up, you know, kind of playing like they played. And they both look at it. Sweet music. When it's going well, man, it's sweet music. So I like this, you know, I don't want to rattle T.C. up that I love like watching and rooting for Lizette like she's so like steady

like she's so easy to root for it. There's no fear of like, oh, this is going to be over again. She's like she's one of the best Like hybrid players in the world like I I'm not having a whole take the whole takes soup to nuts because he lover game lover or personality lover off the call course. I just think she's like, she's probably one of the most like selfish. It's disrespectful to opponents. Do we think time is through? By the way, it's it sucks. Which big big J my associate, a big J. You got to beat the bushes man.

Dennis who knew the J and DJ stood for big J journalism. He was doing some investigate reporting. What'd you find out about how they do? How they time players during the Soulheim Cup? It's wild. You told me about it, but I couldn't relate. Well, I was trying to, I didn't want to bother the official because she's kind of like, you were interrupting her process.

Yeah, she's mid time and she's even like, yo, it's complicated. Like, even when I'm not trying to time every shot, like, it's complicated. It shouldn't be like complicated, right? I agree with you. It didn't make a ton of sense, or I guess it kind of does. I don't know, but basically what they can do,

I think each person has 45 seconds when you get on the clock, and they start timing your shots. Which we've got activist officials, so everybody should be on the clock at all times. In this, because- You're officially trying to insist on those things. I'm gonna say something to create exactly each shot you have one

one thing at a time. Each player has 45 seconds for each shot, but if you hit it quicker than 45 seconds, you can bank time. That's ridiculous. And basically they keep tabs like they keep an aggregate time. It's exactly like chess. If you want to

just said that, you know what you play play chess you know you move your piece you stop you have a maximum amount of like vacation time that you can accrue I will say in LaZette's defense their match was not the only match on the clock today I think they were on 17 green when the group ahead was on 18 green like their group was not like Also We watch almost the whole match and I never once thought like My only slow and I actually thought the opposite because I was wanting to point it out And I was like TC did punch back. He's like well, yeah, it's because she was on the fucking clock after the second hole

Yeah, well then it's working. Yeah, yeah, he goes is it though. Yeah, because they finished where they were in line Can I say this guy reach across I love your passion for it though. I just I hate slow play man I think it's not like slow and one thing I will ride for it was catnip catnip for the euros Leona McGuire might be the fastest player I've ever seen in my life Well, I feel like just keep you guys are both on opposite of the hyperbole spectrum Oh, she's so fast. I feel like we just keep giving guys are both on opposite of the hyperbole spectrum. Dude, she's so fast. I feel like we just keep giving Lizetta free pass. Like she's done this like, it's 15 times as you know.

I'm just talking about every time she's done it. It's the 85 most important story of the week here. Well, here's what it's, oh, she got time. Oh my God, I got time. John, can I tell you my biggest takeaway here is, like when you watch on, I, well, actually, it shouldn't, it should be the opposite. But like her playing slow, I never even thought about it today.

The crowd never thought about it. Six or seven holes. But why was shit? Can she slow a shit to the ball? Cause he's gotta take his face. I know, I feel like you're just riding this thing. No, she's not doing her work before. I feel like you're riding it.

She's not doing her work before it's her turn. That's my biggest issue with it. So anyway, I don't want this to turn into a little... What? What kind of past? What's disgusting? It's disgusting. I don't want to talk about this little play.

I didn't hear anybody talking to her. I don't know, but I guess it's my point. No, but it ain't just that. But again, we're gonna call this thing close, right? Like, you're grabbing a little bit of cloth, a little bit of jersey, we're calling it evidently with the referee yesterday, Missy Mistomeater. We've had a robust dialogue offline

about the conversation, I don't wanna relitigate the rule yesterday, I do wanna say, I thought your Joey Crawford gifs, we're so, so the best work. It's just something that needs to be in the spirit of the game and it needs to be in like between the like in the match and between the Between the players and when you take it off of the players your issues with the rule though because the rule It's not just the rule. It's with the it's with the rules official being Empowered to well then they should not have a rules official with each group. Or they should not have the rule be the rules official.

See something they have to say, I feel like the captain's agreed to empower the rules. That's fine. But I'm saying at some point, like if you empower the rules official, then I want these, I want them on the clock at all times because Lizette's straight at cheating in my opinion. They said, what am on the clock? And they timed him and they were as are after after she's, after she's already taken you how much, how much it takes to get put on the clock and they timed him and they were as are after she's after she's already taken you how much how much it takes to get put on the clock.

Not that much you fall a hole behind. Yeah. And they start a hole behind the way they separate out these teetimes. I've heard like at least four or five matches on the clock this week just walking around like here in rules fish. We're talking about it. It's happening. Anyways, let's move on.

What's next? What else stuck out? TC, what what stuck out to you in the positive? First of all, a little bit worried about Selene, Boothier. I think she was what? 301 or 410? 410. Last last go around. They've kind of hidden her. This one she got. She said, I'll both all shot matches. Yeah, she played. shot. Sorry, both of the, they bookended her. She played Thursday or Thursday. She played Saturday morning and Sunday afternoon. OK, yeah.

Which I just didn't, I don't know. I think she's one of the stronger players. I think she's better. Like, she's a good match player. See, she should be one of the steadier players. She gets the ball in the hole. Yeah. I don't think the analytics are going to jump out

for her and anything like that. She just gets the ball in the hole. I don't think the analytics are gonna jump out for her and anything like that. She just gets the ball in the hole, excellent putter. So I'm very curious to see what she does tomorrow. Again, in her card, she played pretty well. She did. I don't know. I just don't understand sitting her twice. It's just weird to me.

She was weirdly emotional after her match that she won on Saturday morning. I just don't know if there's more to the story there or not, but it was, we were kind of like, I'm trying to find out. I don't know what, yeah. So Allie, you missed a short putt to lose the match, essentially, right? Or lose half point or to, no, to lose to lose the match. Yeah. And so she was in tears.

And then Saline was also in tears after winning the match. We just, correction, they have it. I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We never really got to the bottom of that. And that's not something we heard. Like, we were just standing there and just saw it. And it was like, oh, I don't know what that's about. Yeah.

I've been very impressed with the European leadership and just, it just seems like they're coasting, doesn't it? They just seem like they have their shits together. Yeah, it's, like, there's no, there's no, you know, like in the press conferences, and it's not just the strategy or who they're sending out It's just like the way that they do it and the way that they look it just seems very cohesive, right? I think something else that they kind of stuck out to me was like sending Ally you hang out for the first three matches Yeah, I don't really know why you're treating her like a super star or like one of your stalwarts like I you know

She's a good player. Oh, no, she's well, I think that gets into probably another conversation, which is the pods. Yeah. I think the US, you know, for better or worse, and it looks genius when it works, and it looks questionable when it doesn't. But I think you kind of become like a slave to the to the pod system. And then it's like, well, if you're going to send out, you know, if you're going to send out Nelly, you've got to send out Allie Ewing as well, because they're in the pod together and the other two are playing. You can't sit one and play the other. So, that's just, I don't know. I think that's for better or worse.

I don't know where you guys are going to go. I think Randy said something interesting about the pod. It's like, it kind of absolves the captain of... Yeah, it gives them an out, I think. Like, you know, once you commit to the pod system, you know, they bring in people to administer personality tests, they tell you like, okay, you know, personality wise and whatever other metrics, these four should be placed together. And then once you have those in place, yeah, I feel like the captain then they're not really making like impactful decisions necessarily.

And that honestly might be good for some captains. Maybe they don't want it. I don't necessarily begrudge them that. I think it's a shame though did not like if I were a captain, I don't I don't I wouldn't want the pods. I would want to be able to adjust on the fly, I guess. I know a little bit of connectivity. You can have dotted lines around your pods, right? Where it's like you can have some cores and know where to happen. Allow yourself some fun. Sometimes it feels like everybody has a plan to like, punch in the face and the US got punched in the face Saturday morning. And, you know, but we didn't only they stuck

to their plan and maybe that's a testament to them. Yeah. And Pat Hirst was saying that this afternoon, like, you know, you just got to be a little patient. There's a lot of golf to play. At some point, like, you know, you just got to be a little patient. There's a lot of golf to play. Also, like at some point, like they stuck to their plan and then they got beat this afternoon too, right? It's not like like let's not overstate the comeback today, right? Like it was they won today Four and a half to three and a half. They won by the book ends both felt the Saturday morning and the Sunday afternoon both felt like they could have

Either swung the other way entirely or been a lot closer for the US. And the US, I think my big takeaway was slipped away a lot of points. They got a lot of points. So gone to them grabbing a full point and then read and require grabbing a half point out of that last match. Violent. That's massive.

Violently grabbing a half point. Well, they have a bad opening session. They lose three and a half to a half. They stick to the game plan and they have are winning the Solheim Cup since then. So they had a bad first set. So in this in this scenario, like you take like, all right, bad first session. Let's throw the plan out the window. But they're also like a massive, massive favorite.

I mean, it's not like we're saying like, right, but their job, Patum on the head, we're saying, you know, you got to be able to flex out of the strategy and this like the Stratt, if you stay with your win, I agree. That's a good point. Yeah, it's, it's, it's a good point. I just like, and again, like, I, you know, I don't know sitting Yolimi, like two of the four matches, like that feels a little bit off to me. Talking to Pat Hurst a little bit, it was just very clear that like everybody was going to sit, like coming into it. Everybody I think was going to sit a pretty like everyone was gonna sit, like coming into it, everybody I think was gonna sit a pretty like... Everyone was playing at least two and no more than three.

Yes, exactly. And I'm sure it's tough when like you go out and the number one player in the world doesn't play well. Like that'll put you on your back foot. Right, so. And Lexington play well and Jess doesn't play well. Yeah. Daniel Kang didn't play well and yeah, I think there was,

yeah, it's all, you said it very well. There was a lot to kind of freak out about and try to adjust and you write that they've lost. I'm just like more points than they've lost. They're always down going into. I'm a Lonzo morning over here. I'm a Lonzo morning myself. I guess, I guess we're just left though with like, it seemed like kind of a weird first

step or a weird first like initial foot right and we're still kind of feeling that out. I don't know. It feels after Saturday morning. It feels like you know you don't look at after a good winning session you don't look and be like yeah you know it's just like oh well that's how it's supposed to go and then the losing ones like whoa man what were they thinking with these pairings and everything? I also have the point, too, where like, at some point, like captain's going to do so much, you gotta go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, go, yeah, go, yeah, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah, go, yeah team better, right? I think they're more cohesive team. I think they're they're bought in. I think they're

into it. I think they're into each other. Like they like being around each other. That's the sense that I get. And I don't get that from the American squad squad. I think, uh, yeah, a couple of things that we're talking about at dinner a little bit. And of course, well, everybody has the tendency to do this and we'll absolutely do this again in a couple of weeks. I guarantee when we go to the rider cup, to the Ryder Cup, but the American side just, it's very like when it's going well. Oh my God, what a fun team.

This is so great. When it's not going well, it's like, all right, who's the scapegoat, man? Who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy? Who's the guy who's the guy? We're gonna pin this out. Well, they fucked up the pairings, man, of course. That's the pond system.

And, and try and be right in that like, yeah, maybe it was just like, Nellie didn't play well, Justin didn't play well, Lexi didn't play well. And I will say what's crazy is you look at Saturday morning for sums where it was three and a half to a half in every match went to the 18th hole. And a little bit of that is man, things could have gone play better too. Like last hole like step up and hit some shots and they just didn't.

Right. Yeah, it's almost like, you know, you kind of lose four coin flips there. And that's not going to happen if you play that scenario out multiple times. Like, yeah, they just caught some bad luck a little bit too. I want to say, are you into probability and coin flips now? A little bit. A little bit. Let's say we got some whiffs of big tone coming from the corner of the room over there. Yeah, it's all these solid.

You have some of the, you have a couple of lives. The butterfly it's all these. You have some of the you have a couple of better than the planet. You're impressionable tonight, Randy. Real quick parenthetical. Solid had an epic epic Tony Fina to take this week. Randy, I don't know if you want to wait on that to unveil that. That he's literally too good and that's why he doesn't win.

Oh, yeah. That was. So all you are you, but you know, he's so good that he did I I preface this I'm sure you I'm sure you did they got a shit out of this I was like you know what I'll see an argument that I that I really want to stretch it. Oh, it's it's correct by the way Yes, it's a good take but also it's the headline is you're gonna be crucified as a course he qualifies into all the WGC You don't get to play in like the opposite events. Yeah, he played too good of events. It's too good

You know, he could hoover up some wins and like the barber saw or you know We're really good. I mean, yeah, they didn't even let him defend it Puerto Rico Good. That's exactly the point is he's priced himself out of the lower tier of Torrevin So you only play the majors the the WGC, the players, all the big money ones. And he's hard to win. I hate that form. It was just fun to bottom line like, dude,

he's just too good. He can't win. I was all I will get to your apology for. I thought he was going to win. He's like this way. I was a little curious if maybe they're going to throw him a couple more strokes on the back nine. Yeah.

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able to do that one, but we got through it. All right, back to, back to the soul line, back to this afternoon. Biggest takeaway is from the afternoon. TC, what was your biggest takeaway? I think it's Daniel Kang. She's struggling, right? She's trying to pump up the crowd.

She's trying to do all that. I just, are they trying to hide her tomorrow? It's going off last. Going off last tomorrow? Against Emily Christine Peterson, who has either two, O and one or three and O like she's been ballin. No doubt.

So I don't know. I'm curious to see, you know, I'm not a Lexi guy. I have no qualms that Lexi is going to come and ball out tomorrow. I just like, I think the ones that are going to win this for the US are going to be like a Yulemi No or a Megan Kang. Like the ones that are, they're kind of the US are going to be like a Yolini no or a Megan Kang like the ones that are they're kind of mean a hair gay has a chance to get a point against Celine. I think, you know, Austin can make some pots.

I don't know. We'll get into singles tomorrow. I think it's going to be very, very close and a very good watch. It's been really freaking close to begin with, right? I think we're kind of getting on the extremes of both ends of it. It's been awesome golf. How many matches now at some point I was listening to the the broadcast that was they reached the ninth match to reach the 18th hopefully I don't know if it got to 10 or I forget what it what it what it was

but it's extremely rare in match blood. I think the other takeaway for me is just like I wish I could root for Jennifer Cup show. That was going to be honestly that was going to be my big takeaway is I did find myself rooting for her I mean she was like so good hadn't watched her in person really at all before this week and didn't you know I think her personality is fairly well documented as as you know not being She's introverted super jewellery. I think she's very introverted There's nothing wrong with it, which someone I can't lay looked at in the end someone on the ground today said like Can you imagine she had Marie Fossi's personality, like she would be an absolute superstar,

because like, she's got a little bit of Fossi like in her golf swing, the way she slags it, and it just nukes the ball, puts it great. And I don't know, a lot of my takeaways are gonna be from that match, both because it was, I think by far the best match. And it was the one that we just luckily happened to watch most of.

But watching Cup Show was awesome. Watching Mel Reed, like, kind of fighting it, I think, for a while. She had, was getting her shoulder worked on a little bit around whatever that was. The Eighth Hole. Eighth Hole had the physio out there. Just had some big misses, like, clearly wasn't super dialed, but then just seeing her step up in some big moments. And Shachie hit into 17 was really, really good.

Didn't make the putt. Shachie hit into 18. Obviously, if you didn't see it, she hit it to about three feet, which almost missed the win the whole and have the match. The fact that they, the group prior into 17 left both their putst short. Yeah. They needed to have. Oh, dude, nobody got that.

One of them going so. Just shows you how tough that spot was back there. Totally. And shows you how amazing Cup Chos Chippen was back there. Like when she hit it there, I was like, Oh, God, that could be really rough. And that match was just dripping in. A couple of things on that. Mel fighting it for a while. They like the strength of a really like the benefit of a

really strong partner is like, Oh, you're fighting it for a few holes. Cool of a really, like the benefit of a really strong partner is like, oh, you're fighting it for a few holes, cool, like I got this, like I'll take this for now. And then all of a sudden, Mel comes back in birdies 13. And then true ebbs and flows. Yes, like it was just an awesome, yeah, ham and egg. And one thing that was really cool about, you know, we're kind of talking about the pod system

and the role of the captain. And I think, I agree with your idea, I kind of a lot of morning done. I know, which I think, talking about the pod system and the role of the captain. I think I agree with your Andy I kind of allons of mourning done I know Because I still want to Because I think I was romanticizing a little bit. We talked to care of stuples a lot out there who's a assistant captain for European team and Hearing her talk about that group of

Leona and Mel Reed was probably You know, if not the strongest team on the Euro side, definitely up there. And she's like, you know, that's one that's like, who would ever like put those guys together? Like they just don't, they don't seem like they would have very much in common. They seem very like different people. And for whatever reason, like at this practice session,

like something just clicked and the cap, like Katrina Matthew saw it and, you know, they made that play. And that is where it's like fun to romanticize the captain and seeing that and seeing it play out. And that the last captain or the last practice session now? Exactly.

So I guess that's where I go back to with the pod stuff is like when you were they all playing in the same pod system? Or because I think that's where following it early in the week pod system or because I think that's where like following it early in the week where they like the US at least that already decided upon this pod system and said, hey, these, you know, these, these players are apt to play well together. Didn't change it up at all session to session as far as the practice sessions go or it, you know, and I don't.

Sounds like a lot of people were missing from the practice sessions too. Well, that was the one before the week. Yeah, oh, I see, I see, I see. But, but so like, if you're so rigid in your pot or so rigid in what you think is gonna work and you don't switch anything up, you don't find that magic, right? You don't find that, that like weird recipe. Yep.

Which I don't know if they were not playing together up until then, or if it just, you know, they're practicing together and then it finally clicked in the last session or not, right? I don't know if they were not playing together up until then or if it just you know They're practicing together and then it finally clicked in the last session or not right? I don't know if they were experimenting right in that regard I'm just saying like Mel said the thing said things like yeah, she was joking in the interview with her like yeah Like I knew how you you come around. I knew you'd start liking me Like almost as if like I do Leon I didn't like me to start But you know we'll make some birdies and we'll eventually be friends. Some good stuff from the European team, just, you know, trying to fish for some nuggets about Leona.

First of all, I didn't know her parents raised chickens, school teachers in Ireland raised chickens. Unbelievable. That's very interesting. But she's obviously like, can't lay-esque, I would say, on the golf course just like completely like stone face like not a lot of smiling going on and there was one person that yelled out just come on Leon to give us a smile and she literally just glares at them not even perfect not even cracking a little bit that that shit you know she should smile more she should really hurt your downswing especially on wedges like the way that her head is down an impact looks like Lee West reminds me of Well, you should really hurt your downswing, especially on wedges.

Like the way that our head is down and impact, looks like Lee West reminds me of Tommy Fleetwood. I think I think I think Westwood works for that too. Just covers the absolute shit out of the bush. I also. Yeah, yeah, which I have immense respect for people that cover the hell out of all. That match, like we could talk about this for another 30 minutes. If we wanted to, I mean, we talked about the birdie on an 18 from Mel. Right. Well, this is, this is off memory. I'm going to go straight off memory.

We have Leonas stuff that to a back right pin on nine. Hard is among the hardest pins of it. It was a, it was a Greenskeeper's revenge pin. We went in the lead TC and Randy. That was how I felt. I got out there. Like, that was the first, first I saw. Flu in, like, drove down from Detroit. Got out there, like, 145 or 2 p.m. And I'd seen your picture of that pin. And then

went there and then to like three or four other holes. And I'm like, holy shit, this looks like Randy and I set this thing up. You guys better have no complaints about the setup this week. And I want to explicitly just call out whoever is in charge of the setup. By the way, I love it. I want to see a little bit more movement around the teas, mixing up the distances. I'd love to see eight nine as a,

as a blackable. And they just probably don't present it on TV. They moved 16 up, they moved eight back. Which they're still trying to tell it on TV. They moved 16 up. They moved Which they're still trying to tell us on TV that move to up they moved to back that to's a par five It is now they moved it back now Which is so that it's the whole three eighty three. Oh, it's par five. It was an eagle pass Yeah, that's stupid, but it is fun that it's it's truly like a hundred and fifty yards of difference day to day Yeah, it's kind of fun. So she makes, McGuire makes the birdie on nine. They flip over.

Cup show makes a long birdie. But long birdie on 10. Then she flips over to a crazy front right pin on 11 makes birdie there. Then they go and Mel Reed picks back up after taking a few holes off kind of being injured. She birdies 12. Leona comes in birdies 13.

Birdies 13 after having to lay up to like 220 yards probably. Probably a worse drive the day easily. It's like a duck hook drive. Yeah. When I just back down to the bottom, it hits like five wood up there to like 12 feet, makes it fun for birdies. Talking great pins, like the pin on 12 this afternoon,

at back. So alive. Oh, there's so many. There's like there's not a bad pin on that whole grief. There's only so little nooks and everything. I can't wait to see where they put shit tomorrow. And then, Lizette Burdy's on top of her to cap off this run of where the best ball for the whole,

they were 500 through five there on that five hole stretch as a four ball. Which is essentially, again, as we've said, as many, many people have said like For all intents and purposes of US women's open golf course. Yes today especially not like a birdie fest golf course Not a rider cup golf course not a any that normal LPGA golf course like really earned birdies I would say a better better US women's open golf course than Olympic club. Yeah, yeah Champions. Yeah, I mean this would on it's been great watching matchup on this course, but it would be really

fun to even watch Stroke play on it for sure. It's, it's a just tremendous, tremendous test. And we said this last night too, it was like there's going to be so many shots on TV that undoubtedly look unspectacular. And like when you go see him watch some of them in person, it's like, holy shit, how did you get that pen? A lot of two puts from 25 feet. Yes, yeah.

Well, it's just such a neat piece of property too with the creek and as a spectator, to me, it feels like what going and watching golf in the late 80s or early 90s would have felt like pre-tiger, pre-explosion of money, where it's just like, yo, like you're going out and you're walking around and like, what's so ostensibly just like a big field? And the viewing is great.

Oh, yeah. Sitting up on 16T, you can view 15 and 17 greens, like perfectly as all the matches are gonna come and down into that section. We could watch like three matches at once. There we have people playing 17 up 16 fairway. You'll leave me no, like a rookie in this all-heim have people playing 17 up 16 fairway. You leave me no like a rookie in this all-heim cup playing up the wrong fairway. Like at the most crucial part of matches is badass.

I freaking love it. Shout out to her and me and a hair gay for winning their their four balls afternoon and the only match the US one this afternoon. Stick with the cup show match. You were going through it. I mean, yeah, we haven't even gotten to 17. Well, yeah, we get to, you know, they slowed down there for a little bit or as Reed would say,

we start playing normal golf. Well, 14 and then 15 is very weird. I did want to talk about this. A lot of like, you know, I'm not a caddy, I'm not a player. A lot of from a distance seemingly just like really weird game management decisions, like trying to bomb it down that hill for some reason on 15 you saw cup show Get just so unnecessarily like stuck in that left rough and both the European balls You know it 15 if you if you're not watching or if you haven't really seen a good picture of it on TV

Kind of a downhill Medium length par four short par four. I guess medium length it can be short if you get all the way down the hill kind of has a long almost like like really steep ski slope kind of hill where the fairway pinches in really tight to probably 10 paces across it may be maybe less and Really thick Heather on the left side of that and just really thick gnarly rough on the right side almost like a roadhole style bunker guarding the really really firm greens and all these players just seem to be like trot like that pinch in is right where these ladies are landing and everybody

seems to be trying to roll down to the bottom of that and just super doesn't seem like worth the risk at all. If you hit the fairway, you get some funky lies. And like not to, you know, armchair quarterback, but like the US ends up losing that whole because Lizette drove it left and then she was kind of blocked out, had to just hammer one down and Cup Show, who's plenty long. And also like it was a whole where you're not getting a knock in. You're not making three there probably and just hit something to the top of the hill, hit to the middle of the green, two putt for your par.

US ends up losing that one because Cup Show has to hack out of the rough. Both the Europeans are down at the bottom of the hill. They both put it up there to make easy fours and they end up having the match. That's a half point that just doesn't make a ton of sense to me. Anyways. Did it rain last night? It did. It did. Yeah. Because it seemed like just watching on TV and then being out there this Anyways, it's, uh, did it rain last night? It did. It did. Yeah. Cause it seemed like just watching on TV and then being out there this afternoon,

it seemed like they're a little bit more receptive, at least on that first bounce. That's what, uh, you know, we're just just name dropping all these huge celebrities. But, uh, talking to Jim Gallagher, Jr. He said it was, he's like, honestly, it was a little too crispy. Yeah, the wind especially. Yeah. The wind was like, they got a little water crispy. Yeah, the wind especially. Yeah, the wind was like this. They got a little water on it yesterday. Like this is going to be perfect today. And it totally was.

Which this seems like the exact scenario, you know, where like any other set up committee with all my God word. We're on the you know, I'm ready to send you a say. There's just too much wind and there's too much sunshine out here and we're willingness to keep the course like difficult is I love it. Because it makes the good shots.

It's just is so rewarding seeing good shots. And you know what it's doing. It's making the matches really close because it's super hard to make birdies. Like if you know, one is like down to a two to play and making a comeback. Right. Because it's just so hard to make back to make birdies. No one is down to a two to play and making a comeback. Because it's just so hard to make back to back birdies coming in. Listen. Listen when every pin is relatively talked in. Yes.

You're not making, it has not been comebacks and matches. You've got to play two proper shots to get it to pin and say, you just want, you've got to position your drive and then you've got to play it from ahead. So moving on in that match then. They got to play it from ahead. So so moving on in that match then so they they've got joe birdies 16 Leona makes another like knee-knocker birdie save to have that whole 17 We kind of talked about it a little bit Salas kind of out of the hole has to has to hack around cup. Joe was probably

15 20 feet above the pin. 15 green in the green in like pretty thick rough. And this is the pin that what the US a couple matches before must makes to extend the match. They both left it short. Like that's the amount of slope on this getting back to his back. The euros. Yeah, yeah. And the Mel Reed gets back up to that slope and looks like as an incredible shot. And it looks like she's gonna have very I mean she's got a very good look for it's a lot of break in that putt

But it's a hard putt But it is for reasons we'll get into maybe better than her shot on 18 Yes, yes, it was more of what she was probably trying to do and we get to cup shows getting ready to chip and what did I say? What did I say? Who was it to? One of you's to DJ, because I don't know. You said Fino was gonna win like three times on the West Coast, something in the fall series.

And then with time I finished my sentence, what did I say? No, you didn't say to me, you must have said it to big. Well, you called it, you said I was gonna go. I literally said, she's fucking make this thing. And she flopped it up there. Oh, I wish I would have heard. I really, I don't know. I thought I would take your word for it.

Yeah, I totally believe you. All right. Well, that's really cool story. Just nailed it. That's awesome, man. Good stuff. She flops it. It bends.

It bends. It bends and falls in the edge. Like it was just, I mean, like, drip speed, too. Unreal. That puts the US one up, going to 18. Guaranteed at least a half, which is exactly what they got. Because Mel Reed strives one middle of the fairway. Everybody hit the fairway except Lizette, I believe on 18.

Lizette hits a pretty good shot from where she was, probably out to 35, 40 feet, something like that. And Cup Show hits one just past the hole from the dead center of the fairway that looked pretty good coming in. It looked really, really good right over the top of the flag, maybe just like hair amped up or something. Almost looked like it was gonna take the slope and roll back and get really close, which is exactly what. Mel's did, Mel's was such a random pull.

TC, I know you're gonna be with me on this, but do you remember number 14 at Pebble, when DA points hold that, that equal shot, that kinda like, it hit just in the perfect spot in the rough. And hit in the rough. And that same kind of rough took all the speed off it and then it just dripped down. Literally trickles out. And his went in, but hers rolled out.

I tried to block out that was when you saw the big Bill Murray celebration. And it was one of the orange. Yes, exactly. He had like hunters had a melons rolls out to three feet. They, they of course tell her to mark it. And she kind of wiggles it in the right side, but kind of kind of it caught lip. It curled in, I think middle of the bottom, Randy. Yeah.

I don't know. Middle of the bottom. Well, as somebody who would absolutely have missed that but I was scared for not of that. One big take away. I've got European side. The biggest mistake that Captain Matthew has made, the hats are fucking horrible.

Today's outfits were not good. No, the outfits were, they were almost so bad they were good. The hats, you can't make Celine Boutier, or some of these ladies wear these big, structured hats. Melzyloan that looks natural. They're so bad. It's like similar to what you wear to any of these. Yeah, it's like, yo, like, this is,

like, look good, play good, this is, like, look good. Play good. They look bad. Like, you feel like shit, you know? Well said. And then I was also like a little bit worried about Sophie a pop-off. Just looking at her whole by whole this afternoon,

because she lost yesterday, lost today. Played well this afternoon, especially like kind of a sluggish front nine, but both her and Celine played played quite well coming in. They were just down by like they were there were two or three down at the turn. So just to kind of underscore this or bottom line it, I suppose, uh, before we get into tomorrow's singles matches. So it's nine seven, go into the final final session.

I think historically you'd say that's not a jump ball, but pretty close. Just the US has has kind of like the US has them right where they want them. US is historically dominated singles matches on both kind of men's and women's side. But the European team is really freaking deep. Well, can I just meant one person we haven't said at all. And I, you know, she's two in one this week. She came into the week nine, three, and three in her career. Like Charlie Hall is a really, really good soul. I'm a cup player in Northwest.

And Northwest, yeah. And I think getting back to where Trana is like, I weirdly almost, and it doesn't make sense given the world rankings, but I kinda like the European team more just in like in this format. I can't explain it, but I- It's like Mel. Mel's a pretty example of like, Mel's one of the most talented players in the world,

but like I would center out there, I can just any bit in the world match play wise, but you're going to center out for like a four round stroke. Yeah, right. Well said. Totally. All right. Like yeah, she might get top 20. But yeah, I've struggled to like figure that out right in terms of like why tiger, why fill why these guys have struggled so much in in match play. I don't know if there isn't easy answer to that other than match plays just different.

Put kids on the team. It's vagaries, man. Of course, but like it is a weird like when you roll people out in this event, it's like, yes, the owner of a choir looks like the hardest person to beat out of the need. She does. But like what I go, she's going to win 150 majors. She's a problem. Yeah, over under 15 and a major. But you seared at Lane Athletic Club and you don't even you're like, yeah, I don't, I don't see this. I don't see you being a factor in this tournament.

It's weird how that works, but I got, I got fresh odds. I was gonna have. Oh my God. Yeah. Well, should we, should we, should we roll it into the, the singles? What are the old discussions? Why don't we, before we do that, just real quick, just, we're gonna give a shout out to our friends at Rapsoto.

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I'm just sitting in his apartment of Brooklyn. What are the odds, you think? Who do you think's favored? I think it's like mine is like you're a five. Got to be favor. I can't say. Okay.

I honestly think it's a toss up. I think Randy, you fucking nailed it. Really? Plus 110 US, Europe plus 110. Hell yeah. What did I say, jump ball? Jump ball. I can't see, I can't see your opponent.

You should have come from down there. You should have come from down there. You got to talk about the match. All right, let's go through it. Ready? You got it. Match one. Should we read them off and just quickly say

who we're going to win? 100%. We'll do a little capsule about each one. Okay. These are of course, I'm reading from Beth Ann Nichols, the life of Twitter. Shout out, golf with you. She's the best.

She's the best. And a Nordquist versus Lexie Thompson. That's a provocative match. Awesome match. Neither can neither is very great at tripping. Yes. I'm going Nordquist all day long there. You know what? I think Lexi found some. She got a boost of confidence. I'll take Lexi there. I'm with you.

And we're talking about I think crucial again kind of cliche stuff but crucial morning match. You got to get the energy going. Massive disconnect in my head between how popular Lexi is in real life and how popular I think she is. She's a rock star. Super star. Super star. Miracle off.

She's Ricky with a couple majors or Ricky with a major. It might be a Ricky Bryson hybrid. She reminds me of a lot of Bryson. But also to the credit and how I feel. She's like freaking awesome with the crowd too. Yeah. I don't hear, I don't know her very'm gonna be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to do that.

I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to do that. insert this up. Oh God. Oh God. The captain's agreement. Let's get it. Let's leave the dog. Yeah, they're obligated to, according to your

captain's agreement. Always comes back to match two. Madeline sags drum versus alley-ewing. I got Madeline all day. I think listen, of course, I don't know, but I feel so biased saying this, but I've never felt like better about somebody who's oh and two than Madeline. Like Well, a lot of it is I do she's such a fucking good iron player and this golf course is gonna be so exacting Tomorrow like that's where she if she can get a couple of putts going like Ali hasn't been great And Ali's been pretty pretty wayward from what I've seen and just I don't just seems like Madeline can kind of par her to death. I'll call that a low key swing match there.

I do too. Match three, I mean, match three, match four is, is, get your popcorn. Yeah, match three is. Leonna McGuire versus Jennifer Cupcho. That's the headliner. Two rookies that is truly about as good as it gets based on current form. Two unbeaten rookies in their truly about as good as it gets based on current form. Two unbeaten rookies obviously in their first soul

on Cup and they both kind of operate as killers. Like just, you know, are there to like harvest souls? Predators. Yeah, and I love it. I'm going Cup Joe. I like Cup Joe in that match. But here's what I'll say.

Leon is the only person that's played all four matches. I've walked in for this maybe two times a day, and I am exhausted. I cannot imagine the physical toll that she will feel. And I'm almost taking cup show for that reason. I know we're talking about golf. I know we're talking about golf here, but the mental exhaustion exhaustion, like that aspect

feels like it is very relevant. Seeing the relief on some of the players when they are sitting. 100% of like the first time I can really smile all week was when she was sitting this afternoon. Yeah. Again, because I think it's like playing hard. It's like a major open round. Yeah.

To play 36 holes of a major. round. Yeah. Two days. It's like playing 36 holes of a major, essentially. Yeah. Which is so different from what I'm just so sick. I give them so much credit, all these ladies, because it's so radically different from the Rider Cup or the Presidents Cup, maybe not the Royal Melbourne Presidents Cup, but all other men's team competition I've seen over the last 10 years. It's been a fucking joke. Put the pins in the middle.

Yeah. Let's get the crowds going. Yeah. Bernie's Bernie's Bernie's. Yeah. France was not pins in the middle. Well, American, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, what's, I'm gonna go, uh, God, I don't know who.

Number four. Well, it's, oh, you gotta make a pick. I'll, I'll go, Leonna. I'm gonna, I'm gonna write. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go go Have sees there. I might be a good Match for also awesome Georgia Hall versus Nelly Corta Nelly looks like maybe she needs a good night's sleep. She was off this afternoon. I get it though I'm that's what I'm saying yeah, I'm going you might be she might be back with an absolute vengeance tomorrow. I get it though and then that's what I'm saying. Yeah, where like I'm going. You might be back with an absolute vengeance tomorrow.

I'm taking Nelly. Oh, I'm going to go opposite. So Georgia, I think I might come away. Obviously, uh, Leonna McGuire, I think, I think Georgia has elevated herself in my perception the most of anybody here. I would say Georgia has hit some of the most miraculous and amazing shots that I've seen in this Soul Heim cup and I think that's, it has to run out at some point, right? It's not been like the most amazing consistent play but every now and then she would just hit like, or she just chose better out of the rough,

that's elevated and lands in this five foot circle and runs out like 10 feet. It's, she's had so many of those. When you put it that way, it's literally, do you think she's gonna keep doing that? Yeah, she think the world number one. Exactly. Exactly.

Yeah, I think I'll go Nelly in that one too. I'm reluctant. I'm reluctant. I'll let the record show I will take, Georgia Hall. Reluctantly. I'm coastline everything you said about Georgia Hall. I'll, awesome to watch. A bit of a wild card match in match five.

Selene Boudier versus Meena Heragay. Yeah. A couple of those wild card match in match five. Celine Boudier versus Mina Herage. Yeah. Couple of go of Celine. Sort of unknowns. Yeah, I think this one's probably the toughest one to call the day. I'm going to go Celine. Might be a bit of a trap game for the US.

Mina riding high after getting the rookie point this afternoon and Celine kind of very quiet. I haven't got to watch Mina. I'll go Celine, I think. I think purely just body of work who's been there more. It's kind of the two, like, who's got to be kind of steady at... The diet mudhands. They both have excellent records in Toledo. I'm upset.

I kind of banged on the pig, but I'm taking Mina here. Love it. We love this here getting an important one. You are just impressionable this week. I always say that. Let me say another word about the city of Toledo. 11 we love just here getting an important you are just impressionable this week I don't know yeah We're about the city of Toledo It's only a big town was here Yeah, the big to home we're playing this week. I'd probably be singing his phrases

Match number six Nana Kurtz Madsen versus Austin Ernst I'm going Kurtz Madsen. I she's been super impressive also hits him all way farther than I thought she did really nice iron player dog Yeah, I'm all in I she's a bulldog Way way in on her mentality and her aggressiveness. I like this is a hard one for me Hey big I'll take that big. I'll take that point big. I'll take that point big. I'm taking Austin Ernst I'm like Austin in that one Yeah, who's mad since been she's been okay like yeah, I don't know she wanted one like I haven't I haven't been that I take the people who are making pots man. I don't know

All right Matilda Kastrin versus Lizette salad Kastrin I'm taking a was that I'm taking was that you that. I'm taking a look at that. You know, I would say fucking dog. This is something you say she can play for my team any day. For sure. Love Lizette. Here's what I'll say. This is big Randy exclusive reporting here. Lizette was the only person on the range after Sunday for balls today.

I was going to get it. She scoffed a little coming in. I'm taking Matilda. I wonder some of that. You got me. I'm flipping. Psycho reaching across the area. Psycho now. It's his hair. But I wonder some of that is just like, I can't believe we just have that match. Like, get me the fuck away from everybody. Like, let's go to the range. Well, she made a mess of 17. She hit some squirrelly. Yeah. She was fine. She was on

17. It was bad. It was bad. It was for second shot at 17. I've not good. That was one of my last rounds lefty. I've birdied 17. I wasn't even as bad of a spot as that all day. feels crowbar day. A little bit. So congratulations. But that felt a little bit. It was fine. The last birdie I made of every bird. People come and I've crying. Say thank you, TZ for playing our golf. I think this next match is sneaky, really good. Where are we at?

We're a match eight, Carlota, Segonda, who just, not from a game perspective. Can you just, so you spent enough time at a golf tournament like to entertain yourself? We just make up like, just a lot of fake stuff about golfers. Will you just briefly explain what we've assigned to Carlota Segonda? She just, in the women's game particularly,

golf clothes just can change your whole perception of somebody. And so opening ceremonies are great when you see someone dressed a little more like what they would pick. Carlota just looks so fucking cool. Like hair slick back dark sunglasses on and like on the golf course she kind of looks you know she looks a little bit like jimmerman I think yeah just a little just you know she's got a bad aesthetic on the golf course. Yeah it's not great and on the off

the course I was like holy shit she looks like the coolest person you've ever seen just like like like complete Euro refinement, just probably smoking like cigarettes you've never even heard of, hanging out in Berlin, Disco Tag. Disco's until six in the morning, like it was an awesome vibe. So, me and Lissa say we're way in on carloaded.

She's like Nacho El Vira on course, and like Rafa, Cavera, Dale off course. So all that's made up in my head. I don't know anything about her, but that's kind of the vibe I get. I'm taking her versus, versus, yeah, I don't care. I think that's what I mean.

Versus Britney Alhtamore. Who's the boss of the boss? Who's the boss? Boss of the boss, doesn't seem like scared by a big moment at all. Doesn't seem like what's your of anything. Just kind of, yeah. Just kind of there.

All that said, everything I just said, I'm going to take Brittany out tomorrow. Mm-hmm. Because you think she's going to be a disco tecto six day? She might be out too late. She might just be completely filled with nihilistic indifference about the state of this match. All right.

You're projecting. You know what? I'm going to take out tomorrow too out tomorrow to just good putters man take good putter this next one is I'm I'm very very excited for these next match number nine Sophia pop off versus Megan Kang Megan don't call me Danielle Kang. This is I don't have a good handle on this

one. I'll be completely honest. I'm Sophia. So fear that I think is I feel like has played better than her record shows to this one. I'll be completely honest. I'm so fear. So fear that I think is I feel like has played better than her record shows to this point. Yeah. And Megan just doesn't I don't know boom getting weird vibes from Megan pretty much the whole week just on how she feels about her game. Like I heard her say at some point on the mic today like I don't know what's wrong with me and it's really like hard to be like oh yeah you're gonna go win. I leaned a pet, I mean, British open, I'll take pop off. It feels kinda like same vein as Madeline.

I'm like, gosh, you've played better than to be downed to, you know, the O2. I mean, did they, they had to have rigged these matches. There's like four or five there. There's some really good ones. Super heavyweight. Just, just like, there's just like,

the next one, Mel versus Yeleme. Yeah, Mel Reed versus Yelimi, no in match number 10. I think this is a true, like, let's see what the kids got. Totally. You have C-Fight. Yelimi has, like, honestly. Yeah.

It's a bare knuckle at all. Like, let's see if the kids, like, okay. We'll see if you find them. Yelimi's been, she's showed up in big spots, right? She's, what, 20, right? She's what 20 21 Has showed up in majors showed up on like big golf courses, but still has kind of like a bit of an inexperience Yeah, I at least again, that's probably a projection. No, I don't mean I think that's all It's either gonna be like my part everyone into 17 or Mel's gonna be shit

Possibly worried for a rep stop the fight please no, it's just a comp is just an exhibition cool We're everyone's just trying to have a fun time. You don't need to you don't need to be bad You do have to imagine these refs they will stop They're gonna get it. They're quick. I think 11's fun. Well, that we made predictions? Oh, no, no, sorry. I'm going Mel. I'm going Mel. I'm going Mel there. God desert. Duffers. He's so pissed. Come on. Do it. You're, you're, you're going to go you'll leave me. I hope you'll leave me. Do I say that? I kind of did. This is honestly a hard one for me because I think Mel can hit enough squirrely shots to give away some holes. Sure. I'll take Mel. She's got to be riding high. That's, you know

what that's interesting is like Mel, of course, this is the format is what the format is, but Mel hits the big shots on 17 or 18, but if that was a singles match, she would have been toast. Yeah, she never get in there. Leona got her to 17 and 18 and then she was able to step up that. So, yeah, you might have, you might have flipped me there. I'm taking you leave me. I'm I'm I'm jumping. Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah, it's not too late. I'm taking you leave me to okay Match 11 Charlie whole versus Jessica quarter. That's that's a hell of an undercard to some of those main events That's an awesome match Charlie Charlie Hall seems like I do too. I think Charlie really enjoys

like beating the shit out of you. Yeah. Like low key. I agree. Just as doesn't seem to have it doesn't seem. Yeah. I'm with you. TC. Oh, yeah. The last match, Emily Christine Pederson versus Daniel Kang. Pederson. Alley Brett match. Of course. Call it the Alley Brett match. Let's get out in front of this. The Alley Brett match. Alley, Caddy's for Daniel Kang.

He is dating Emily Pederson. Tough spot. In the anchor, the anchor match of the solo club that is definitely going to be close. That is definitely going to be a relevant match. Tough spot. I'm not sure who's going to win tomorrow, but I know who's going to lose. Allie.

One way or another. Is that even legal? Like, is that part like the integrity of program? What was the tweet you saw earlier? Just imagine PJ tour players, dating and chatting. Imagine that. Imagine if Fluff was dating Monty. Great tweet. Whoever, whoever. So good. So good. So good. Oh, I don't know who I'm not sure if Fluff was hitting a mod. Great tweet.

You're ever so good. So good. I don't know who I think I might go with Emily on that one. I think I got to go Danielle here. I think if it means something's playing really well. I know. I think Danielle's got some popcorn muscles right now. Well, I don't think she's like, she certainly is not

flash-to-ray game. She's also the mudhead, though. Think about the crowds of that, if that matters, like, if there's one person that I think truly like feeds off of it. I just can't stop thinking about this. Imagine like, if like, Damon Green, like, Brooks Kevco or dating. Like, like, Fanny Sunnison and, like, like, if Lee Westwood's wife caddyed for, like, an American player. Yeah, yeah, that's it.

Lee Westwood's wife's caddy for co-gracking. Yeah. So who are you going with there? I'm taking the mud hen, Danielle. I don't know what that adds up to, but I think the US wins. If my individual match is probably don't, but I think the US is going to win. I think I, I, I honestly was just counting mine and I think I picked seven American winners which would leave it 14-14.

Which is bullshit. They should never, there's no retaining. There's no, there's a little T-box, there's a little forward T-box on 10. And it'd be like 110 yard flip wedge into nine green, or regular 18 green, but nine green. I think that is what the half is the playoff. 24 person closest to the pin.

24 person. 24 person. I don't like it. I'm serious. I pick seven euros that gives you as comfortably comfortably victory. I think I pick nine euros. I think I think that covers our our day at the Soulhype Cup. If you can't tell, we guys, there's no other golf on tomorrow. It's just watch it. If you just please, it's so good. It's gonna be a great finish.

I really do think so. I showed up. I was like, yeah, like, as advertised. Very glad I came, right? Yeah. I had to do some family stuff yesterday. I didn't have to, like,

want to do some family stuff yesterday. It's the same. Sorry, sorry, Freddie. And yeah, like, show up this morning. And I was like, yeah, like, this is, is this is as advertised like I've been more excited for this than I'm than I am for the Ryder Cup just cuz I feel like it's a viewing experience too. It's just like yeah crowds out there I will say like the USA chance sucks It's always like it's just overplayed like just yeah, it's like don't go to it at every fucking moment

Yeah, we need like a song we need we need like a variety of cheers and like to anybody saying all you know the like O.A. Things Like that's They don't have any fans here like that's them conjuring up a little bit of energy I'm just and there's like too many Ohio State fans here, so that's not all right. We're moving it off here, but that's not all right. We're moving it off. Tour Championship. Patrick Cantlay wins $15 million. John Rom. He outlasts John Rom in a duel. We're just hand up here. We've been at the Soulheim Cup for many, many days now. We did not watch a lot of tour championship. When you say duel, would you describe that kind of as a

match play situation? There was a match play situation. It emerged, I think only with a couple holes left, I believe, is when they confirmed that it wasn't. True match play situation. True match play situation. For what is worth, Ram was for clear of the next best guy. I mean, it was a two horse race, for sure. Of course, not an actual match play. We can get into big takeaways.

And this is, it's hard to obviously get too pumped about another event when you're at another event, right? Like, wherever you're going to be is going to dominate your your thoughts and your day and your takes and all that stuff. But wild to see kind of like a two man, essentially a two-man shootout for $15 million doesn't really get you the TV, you know? And I think some of that is, which it kind of did when the FedEx cup started. It was like, oh my God, Bill Haas,

and I don't even remember, a Hunter Mayhander playing off for $10 million, everyone get to a TV, and I don't know if they thought through like the, hey yeah, like in your 10, it's kind of like, okay, well I've seen guys, I don't know what into this money means to any of these people. The shine has worn off.

Yeah. So when you predicated on the money, even us like three or four years ago, we're like, hey, like true to the money on the 18th green. And now it's like, totally. Even that, I don't like that, that wouldn't do it for me. No, and I don't, you can't put that on the tour because I think the tour vociferously tries to not make it about the money.

And they've tried to make it. I guess this year they finally did. About everything else. And it's just, it's pretty loose, loose. It's kind of, yeah, I don't know, it's a little useless. I think some of it's back to Eats Lake. I totally agree. It's just not an interesting golf course at all.

And like, I want it to be. I'm from Atlanta, like I have pride in Sydney. I've been out there five or six different years, I played it. Like I can name off every hole. It's just, I just don't find it very interesting. Well, what's interesting about it is, or what's interesting about it not being interesting, I guess, is so can't like start the week at 10 under, right?

Through the staggered start, finished at 21, so obviously shot 11 under for the week. That's a, that's like high scoring on the PJ tour, right? That's not a, you know. Grand's part 70. True, but still, I mean, you don't see that. There's a lot of part 70 golf courses that they chew up, right? Well, because allegedly Billy Horsfield got in their asses about...

About par being too high. Oh, did you see Horsfield's comments? Oh, he said like, this is like, he said, this is a joke. I'm sure K's Valley is a nice course to play on the weekend. But this is our playoffs, and it needs to be tougher and that sort of thing. And I don't know how much Billy Horses will have to do with it versus just.

How about that? But I mean, here here. Score one for Billy, right? Yeah, that's it. But where I was going with that, and I'm sure we said this in our tour championship recap last year, and probably the year before that, probably the year before that, but it's not really

like a good kind of hard. I mean, Inverness was a awesome kind of hard to watch day. East Lake is, you know, small kind of boring greens for the most part. You're gonna miss a lot of them, because it does play pretty firm. But thick aspermute. Thick aspermute, then you're chipping up and maybe making par and maybe not.

There's not a ton of strategy to it. It's hit the fairway. Otherwise, you're gonna have a hard shot from the rough, hit the green, otherwise, you're gonna have kind of a hard chip. But it's not the, there's just not a lot of strategy. There's not a lot of, you can't really appreciate a ton of the iron shots, right? Like that's what I think you have here at Inverness is If they're gonna hit a really good shot, they got to land it right here and East Lake

It just kind of feels like if you're gonna hit a really good shot You got to land it in kind of a 10 foot circle in labor day weekend in Atlanta when Georgia's playing and when SEC and ACC football starts like Golfing move in the needle. It's also hot as shit every year. On the can't lay front, I think it is a good thing for the playoffs for somebody to go out and get the last two events and win it. Like totally.

A hands down, like no questions asked winner. I mean, went out and got the second to last event. Actually got beat by three by both not and rom in the net division or in the gross division. This week. Yeah, they do not give out trophy for that one unfortunately. So I'm out on like, yeah, the gross leader board and all that. It's like the format for this week was you get to the head start like and I get there's a shadow leader board for the ODB GR. I do think you shouldn't get an official win if you literally started the week 10 under. That's fucking stupid. If you're gonna do that though, just make the playoffs like one big aggregate thing. But that would be really boring week to week. Yeah, and also somebody could, we've said this a million times.

Like I get why they do it the way I do it. Yeah, I'm in on it. It made it so that, hey man, it's easy to understand. We're down to the last hole of the season and there's two guys in the mix and you know it's close right. Like they though at some point then like isn't the whole the whole argument against stroke play or against match plays that like oh there's you know what else are you going to show when the other guys are on the course. Well like in this instance my biggest complaint even before they started doing this from seven eight ten years ago from the tour championship. There's 30 guys in the field, right? By the

time round one ends, there's 18 guys in the mix. By the time round two ends, there's like 12 guys in the mix and like everybody else is just completely checked out. And oh by the way, there's only 15 groups on the course each day. So you go out as a spectator and and I know it's the TV product, but you go as a spectator and like, there's not a whole lot of golf going on anyway. And in this case, it's like, you know, large part of the day today, it was a two horse race.

Which it should matter more. So what's the difference between doing that and doing a good match play thing? Well, yeah, it should matter more who finishes third verse fourth when it's a million dollar difference. And it just like, just, it's just starting out, right? Like who cares? I mean, I think, you know, there's some stuff to be gleaned,

like unbelievable finish from Kevin Naught to the playoffs. Do it. Oh, I think you got, you got to pick him, right? So I have to take him. Yeah, great Sunday. You got to, I mean, you got to pick him. He's such a good courtman. Did he birdies last hole? I don't know how hot is he. It's all right. It's all right. It's all right. It's all right. It's all right.

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from either in Japan or from Japan. But we got that, Brooks, Keppka, Brooks is the first one since they switched to this new format that has done like the question I've always been asking is like somebody that was up there and then has the WD or the free fall down the leaderboard that like the old format would not have let you lose yourself lose as much I don't I forget what he was coming into the week but he wasn't that high up but having to withdraw from the Torchabit ship you just default to last place when there's

a lot of money available for him at that point. But yeah, just for context, I don't where was he at before he did roughly, do you know? I don't know. I mean towards the top of the leaderboard, middle leaderboard, do we know? Sorry, I think you would have been like, he's a little... 6771. I was going to say gross, he was 200, I forget where he started though. Yeah, so 6771 in the first two rounds, which is pretty solid at East Lake difference between 30th 30th gets

395,000 and 15th gets 595,000. That's something that $200,000 is different so but between him with the wrist injury more Kawa That's I mean, yeah, if he was serious enough from the withdrawal $200,000 I'm just glad Rory doesn't have to tee it up anymore He seems very ready. He'll he'll go ball out of the rider cup. I'm sure he will put George loss of money today 74 you did he fell down the tie for 20th He was just like a third grader again this week. That's like, what do we think this means for for can't lay if we want to if we want to go down that road?

I don't know what it means, but I think back to one, it's easy to super like gloss over the years he missed of yeah in his prime or what would have been his prime of playing golf of this back injury and truly probably sitting around wondering if this day would come where he would be, you know, be set for life financially from, you know, on course earnings and to, you know, it is an achievement. Like we make fun of the FedEx couple lot, but like every almost every dude you talk to prize himself on making it to Eastlake. Yeah, it's impossible to make it.

You get a primary goal for the year for a lot of guys. It means you had a great year. There's no way of getting there without having just a fantastic year you up for the following year. 100%. So in that regard, just like putting the bow end on a mega, mega season that everyone is ready to be over, I think. And to call yourself the champion of that, I think is it's not, it's not nothing. It's, it's, you know, yeah, we didn't get to watch. They'd be feeling different about it. If we got to watch it probably today, I think. You'd feel at least a little something towards you. I guess that's where I'm at. I mean, it sounded pretty boring. It didn't seem like we missed the whole.

I mean, if I wasn't here at the Soulheim Cup, like, I'm going to the beach with my family and then I'm gonna watch Corn Ferry tonight on tape delay. Like maybe that's just me, but like, I've seen that movie before with East Lake. I watched Can't Lay Win last week. I guess I'm really happy for him and good for him, but it's not going to change my day to day.

I have no rooting interest whatsoever. What's tough is, I'm not going to say I feel bad for the tour because it seems like they're trying to have all the cake and also eat all the cake, but it's bad cake to on paper, on paper, like everything looks great, right? They identified the best player of the playoffs, probably the best player of the season, right? Like they did a great job of that. They made something that came down to the last hole, they made something that... Not only the best player, like the two best players.

Yeah, it's ROM, 100%. And they did a great job of that and everything on paper seems perfect right. It seems like they did a really good job of that. The hard part is like, yeah, man, on paper like that's why they don't play the games on paper I guess. That's a good way to just make it kind of soulless. Like sometimes what's on paper is very different than what I'm seeing with my eye and that's just kind of how the tour championship has felt for the last quite a while. But then Billy Horsher

wins the tour championship and you know that was sick. That was a fun year. That was actually super fun. That was a fun year. Yeah, but yeah, but then gets a massive inflated sense of self-portrait and all that. As always, it's almost kind of like the NFL and the NBA too. It's more exciting to talk about the news related to the events and the actual funalities and the event. Real quick. I do want to say disappointing week for Scottie Schaffler. I thought Schaffler was going to assert himself and kind of make the captain's big obvious. I see my gig golf course. Some signs of life from P.

It looks like six yesterday. It's all loaded statement. Is that pun intended, I assume? No, it wasn't meant to be, but yes. Yes. And then, you know what, we've been dogging to Sanjay a little bit all year. We haven't done that much.

We made it to the torch and it'd be in ship and finished like 20th. Like really good year for Sanjay in a complete down year. Like I think Sanjay over the next one, two, three years, like Sanjay is gonna be a fucking force. I hope so. It was easy one, two, three years, like Sungjae is gonna be a fucking force. I hope so. It was easy to forget how, I mean,

that was this year he won the Honda, right? Like, was that last year? That was last year, yeah. Holy shit, that was last year. Oh yeah, that was the McKenzie Hughes, right? Oh, all right, forget everything I just said. I was gonna say it easy to forget how good, like watching him in that time, you know, time period there.

It looked like he was gonna be an absolute world-beater and now what I was gonna say is that, yeah, there has been kind of an extended career. It's like we're seeing his flow, right? We haven't really seen that guy, so, yeah. So, we're talking about P. Sure. Statement, it's hard to keep track of the statements

and I was gonna say, I'm gonna stick to the facts of the situation, but I think the facts are really true. You're gonna use med facts. A lot of quotes, a lot of confusion on the timeline and the procedures followed at the hospital, but he was in the hospital for several days with bilateral pneumonia and said the doctor told him at some point to text his family. And as if it could, you don't know how this was going to go. And he ends up driving to East Lake because his lungs could not withstand

the pressurized cabin. I don't know if it's to I assume it's because it's a rider cup year to try to make the rider cup team. I'm money too. And money. They like the money. They like the money. I don't know how to talk about this because anything that comes out of the read camp is just coded with, like, you don't know where the truth starts, right? You know, can we talk about the PR, like just how badly they misplayed the PR? A bit of like the, you know, like, all all right like you have what bilateral pneumonia Then he says he didn't get tested for COVID on the way into the hospital There was a report that he did test positive for COVID like there was a golf channel a whole golf channel story written about it

Then then got taken down like yo just say you have fucking COVID Well, I think that's the big day. You're you're wondering like what like that's the tape like why does stuff have to be so difficult with this guy Yeah, well, why why is it that low key though? Or any like that's kind of turning into the entire fucking PJ tour Like why is all of this have to be like some massive spent just somebody tell us like what is going on Just someone tell us like the truth about anything and then like how about the golf channel like Hand down the report any one to be doing it or whatever which is basically the PJ tour coming. Justine Reed going to, you know, this is me reading between the lines. This is all alleged.

Uh, but justine Reed basically, I would imagine she went to player relations or the tour and said, Hey, like you, you, you have to get golf channel to pull this down. You guys are part owners of golf channel now and they'll bladge. It's so difficult to follow. If, if I had to take a best guess, purely best guess, I think, guys are part of the golf channel now and they'll blood. It's so difficult to follow. If I had to take a best guess, purely best guess, I think P. Reed was probably had COVID, right? And then probably got his first vaccine shot

a few days before he was forced to go into the hospital to be treated for the COVID he had. So he can say truthfully, he was vaccinated. I don't think he's ever said fully vaccinated, double shots. And pardon me, it's like, I don't, like, why do I need to care about this to a certain extent? But, like, he's a lunatic anyway.

He can say that while also, like, well, the whole thing was like, well, you weren't vaccinated, like, when it, like, mattered, you actually got sick. And then, that's where's where like I can't even talk about it because I don't know where the truth starts Right, I don't know if I don't even know if he did have his first you know what I mean? Like the whole deal of pee. Yeah, I don't know where the truth starts and where the truth ends and what is the truth or what Like it we know what he says not true right because they said they wasn't tested when he got him into the hospital and then chain Ryan from golf I just called off a little mess like hey, how's that work?

Like yeah, I don't know we test I'm a buddy minds a dark. He's like, dude This is such like every hospital test no matter what your procedure is right? You are getting a test before you go into a hospital So like the very starting lungs are on fire. Yeah, I hope it doesn't ever Occur does to think about that the start where the starting fact is so wrong that like, oh, like honestly, that's like justine's thing though. She sets you off on this weird, I don't, I'm not ready, like, I'm sorry if this is cynical.

I'm not even ready to believe the story of like that he was that close. You know what I mean? Exactly. I don't know what to put on. Oh, and then he had an ankle thing going on. Sure. And all this other shit, it's outrageous. The guys, like, he's just like,

he's a lying sack of shit about everything. It's sick. Net net, like, do, like, does he, why does he have to be on the Ryder Cup team this year? It feels like, dude, you just had double pneumonia, like maybe sit this one out. It's gonna roll around again in two years. I was texting this kind of like throughout the week.

And it's just, it's hard to overstate how outrageous that statement is just like, all right, and maybe the greatest bounty of depth in the history of American golf. Like, do you think we should take the guy who doctors told a couple weeks ago, like maybe wouldn't survive this illness and it isn't allowed to fly in pressurized cabinets. And also like sabotage the team. And also the guy who made Tiger Woods apologize to him and also drove that bus over Tom,

like, over all these captains. Like, do you think that's... Sure. ...overfieric, yeah, sorry. Confusing the other guy that you think. And it also hasn't been played that great. Like, he's not, yeah. Also involved in cheating scandals,

also notoriously frosty with a lot of players. Like do you think that's the guy we should take, or no? He's like, what the fuck are we doing? Like how is this even a conversation? That's where I think the disc, like the conversations that are being had in public. Yeah.

Like from the little sources I do have close to the situation, they're like, yeah, the more like you try to like force this further off, you get from who's who it's gonna be. Well, the further outside the box, you go, right? Yeah, the the less sense it sounds like it makes, yeah, it probably makes less. You know what, I'm here in all sorts of rumors, Rania and I both are here all sorts of rumors that the Brooks hurt his wrist that Miguel

Sin is going to see. Miguel Sin is ready. I heard that too. Yeah, I heard that too. Justine said mentioned that as well. I heard that too. That you know, Phil wanted to be on the team, but only if Patrick was on the team as well.

That's what that's what just he'd said. Phil might have legit been Patrick's doctor, but some of this, some of these quotes over here. He gave him some coffee for wellness. Yeah. We can talk a little bit more. We can do some rider cup stuff. We'll do it. We're doing a recap of Monday night after the Soulheim cup as well.

But some more news that came out golf.com scoop, a PGA tour drive to survive series coming to Netflix. Imagine that. What an outrageous outside the box idea. I have to tell you a lot. You know what? I'm going to get out in front of this. I'm going to refuse to be cynical about this.

We're cynical about everything related to the PJ tour. This is exactly what we've been clamoring for for years. It's exactly what we've been saying they should be doing. Yeah. Now they're doing it. And I hope it's great. Of course, they're big ifs. Of course, they're big ifs.

There's a lot of, you know, I think the biggest thing. And enormous one. There are known unknowns. That's why man Romney was from me would say. RIP. Did he die? Yeah. Shit yeah.

Yeah, this is like the time you guys like Greg T. Nelson was dead. He died, he died. And that's a known known. Yeah, it's of course big ifs. Known unknowns is whether it will be, you know, open and authentic and accessible as the Drive to Survive series is, which is what makes it so good is F1 has virtually no input on the production company who makes it.

And as such, you get a very raw, pretty unvarnished look at a lot of guys, which is very, very rare in sports and exceedingly rare engulf. And so if the PJ tour provides that, I think it'll be excellent. I cannot wait to watch it. And here's one thing I'll say on that, I kind of posted a bunch of stuff on Twitter earlier this week, but reheating some of that, posted a bunch of stuff on Twitter earlier this week, but reheating some of that, I just don't not, Drive to Survive has been so successful for both Netflix and F1 by all accounts.

You see sports business right up, it's about it constantly and how much the viewership is up and so I will get to a big caveat for why that might be. But I just, they have a formula now. They have a proven, like, I see. One formula. I don't see, oh my god. I don't see any bargaining chips that like the PJ tour would bring to the table that would outweigh what Netflix and the production companies and all these people are saying. I don't get why the same production company would get

involved. I don't get why Netflix would get involved. I don't get why any of these people would sign on if they're not getting exactly what they want. And they have to know, I feel like they weigh in. They know what that issue is and they have to know that like PJ tour, you know what you're signing up for, right? And I hope the tour out for sure.

Yes, you know this was percolating for, right? We've heard rumors from the tour and from others. Yeah, it's been going on for like two, three years. But I think one thing to consider though is one of the things with driver's survive is like it's more catnip for people who are relatively new fans or casual fans than hardcore fans. So I think that's something to consider where even if it doesn't

scratch all the itches for us, maybe it's not going to, you know, not do that for others. Exactly. Maybe it's not going to, you know, not do that for others. Exactly. That's an important thing to get on the record now. And that's again where I'm like, yo, I'm not going to be cynical about this. Which is also great for the tour.

It totally might not be for me. That's like, that's fine. Yeah. Well, and he tried to survive like a lot of, like the F1 podcast I listened to, like they're, they do like series reviews. The interesting stuff gleaned from it. Yeah, like there's, there's enough layers there.

I think where I struggle a little bit is hearing about what Ricky's gonna have a big, like Ricky's one of the investors in it or has one of the, it sounds very team-was heavy. You're gonna have a Cameron champ episode. You're gonna have a big tone episode and you're gonna have a Ricky episode. For sure. We'll see. Well, I think Ricky's production company, which, yeah, Randy, do you know Ricky had a production company? They did.

Unfortunately, it's similar stuff with like a Oklahoma state golf channel series that, you know what he also did was reviewed. He did, and I haven't watched yet, but I was just talking to somebody who told me to watch it, Native American. Oh, I heard about that too, and I haven't watched you. Which I need to give a check, because I've heard it's good. So I'm not, I heard about that too. And I haven't watched it, which I need to give a try because I've

heard it's good. So I'm not I won't pass judge on Ricky's production. Like the biggest two laps they could do is like, all right, you have to have over like three laps, you have to have a fill episode. You have to have a hair. I don't think the PJ told wants to ride for the guy who's trying to like, well, think about season one or Harry Higgs and Cameron Smith like those are two guys You know and think about season one driver survive. You didn't have Mercedes, right?

You know, so I if we don't have Phil or Tiger some of those big names right away. That's you know, that's not reason to panic So all you want to give us the big elephant in the room? Let us down, man. Well, here's the deal. Well, skip. Got into Drive to Survive at your guys recommendation. No, I'm a big fan of Drive to Survive. Loved it. Like riveted, right? And as I finished it, I was like,

I want to watch an F1 race. I'm excited. And it's also like, you know what? You amateur. Like, you like the little blockbustery. The one with the special sound effects and the edited story, you fell for that. Like you're ready to be a fan of this.

Like are you ready to be a fan? And so I went in pretty skeptical of F1 races and then turns out F1 races are a freaking joy to watch. There is no commercial interruptions. The announcers are dedicated to their craft. They have such passion. And they are, you know, as entertaining in the race for ninth places, they are first place. They're explaining tire strategies. They got team radio. They're running live audio in. It is all designed for the fan. It keeps you there. And the way their league is structured, not to unpack it too much.

But like, they just have a million sponsors within the teams. Like that's the teams paid driver salaries and it's not this like big TV deal, at least for us in the United States, that funds the whole operation, right? How does that compare to what golf is? Yeah. That's what I was going to say. Let's tease the, you know, so the consumer, the consumer path here of like I've just discovered the show totally randomly on Netflix. This is unbelievable. can't look fun. I can't wait to get involved

Wait, how do how do I watch this? Oh my god? There's no more polar opposite in a viewing experience than watching golf first watching Formula 1 so beyond the view experience the app This yeah social channels if we Even just about game viewing it. But getting clubs, getting access to a course, like all that's, that's the- No, or even just trying to follow the toward, trying to follow, like, even logging onto the app, or logging onto the website, or trying to track,

like, stuff like that, it's like, not even beyond the broadcast, the product just sucks. Well, but the main thing being, like you want people to care about these athletes and these characters and these people like tune in and watch them, like that's what they care about is TV ratings because they sell all this money in TV product, right?

F1 loves the TV ratings because that's more, like more sponsors that come in to the individual owners, the teams, all this stuff. And like they don't do anything at all to ever address this. So like, you're gonna get, in best case scenario, the series is a huge hit, it is very entertaining, it is awesome, it's dramatic.

I'm a little suspect that it will be, but let's say that's best case scenario. They get there and they go try to watch for the first time, and you're gonna hit them with 18 minutes of commercials in an hour, like, what is your return time? And then not show any of the people that they share on the like on the five of the 10 episodes. It's essentially like running it like the world's best

marketing campaign for like $8,000 shoes. Like let me click through to this website like these shoes look awesome like whoa. No, this is not. I'm interested in it all. Holy shit. No, never mind. So like I of course we'll watch the show.

Of course, it's a great idea. But again, if you want to funnel people in, you have got to, that funnel at the bottom needs to be... There needs to be some good shit at the bottom. It needs to be wide. Yeah, you gotta let some stuff in there. I don't know where I'm going. This is an halogen.

Can we talk about it? All right, so I think a good lead in for that is, granted, I know this was kind of a perfect storm with COVID rescheduling stuff. And there being European tour this morning, which by the way, Rasmus Hogards identical twin one. Really? In Italy?

Yeah. This is just breaking news out of wild. This word's just coming in the building. So I didn't know I did was even a twin at all. And the course in Italy sounds like a complete like Tommy Fasio disaster. What was the original point here? Yeah.

Why don't we start with those back? Sorry, sorry, sorry. So going back, which I know I say going back a lot, the corn fairy tour, most exciting tournament of the year for Peter Watch, the path to the PGA tour that they promote a lot, right? It's like the minor league championship, right? You've got the 25 at the end of the season

and the 25 from the finals. They didn't even fucking show it live this weekend. Like, yeah, I mean,, I guess it was streaming, but they kept advertising it during coverage of Soulheim Cup and everything, with no times or no instructions on when or where to watch it. And you've got like one, like a guy that, these are the guys that are gonna be on the PGA tour next year.

Like it's, you have 50 new guys on the PGA tour next year. 50 rookies. Which again, like going on that and tying some of the, like, two of these points together is, I just picture them, like, Justin Lauer. Let's, we're gonna give him a ton of shout outs, I'm sure, on this podcast, but he's someone who just got his PGA tour card. Let's do, like, literally, PGA tour. Welcome to the greatest story on your tour. Right there is Justin Lauer right episode about him would bring the house down. It would

be unbelievable. And then you get to you know, good luck explaining to new fans like what the reshuffle is and how the priority rankings work and why Justin's not playing this week. What's going on here? The shit out of it. Why do not ever on TV? I want to watch Justin. I can't ever see him. When he makes a cut or does something next year, something notable the first time, they'll try to go back and start from scratch.

Like, here's who Justin Lauer is and it's going to be this pre-produced PGA tour entertainment. You know, like PGA tour productions, just puff piece and it's not going to resonate. It's like show, just cover the shit live. I was just trying to show it's not going to resonate. It's like show it just just cover the shit live. It's hard to show it to people in real time. Yeah, it's just hard with so many players. You're just end up being. They're too big. They're a mile wide and an inch deep. It's big. I the only thing I was going to add with the drive to survive stuff

was by so explicitly like hitching their wagon and like setting the expectation for folks to like compare it to the F1 version is like, you know, that's a high bar to like get to. Sure. And also racing is exciting. Yeah. Can't believe like golf is 99% of it is not excited. So I just worry it's like, yo, yo people are gonna come in with like really high expectations And I like I hope you guys realize that me and me and bigger going out tomorrow

We're grabbing a camera. We're gonna go try to make something comfortable to the godfather We want you to judge us on whether we get there not knowing you quarterback this for the tour like I have Measured expectations. Just say that. We'll see we'll'll see. Speaking of corn fairy. Big shout out Justin Lauer. The hitter. No laying up young. We have young hitters. At the Soulheim Cup, we have young hitters going to the PGA tour. Unbelievable. Or baby boy graduated. He didn't make it easy on us. Finish 25th. Got up and down on the last hole. 72nd hole from probably 15 yards off the green hard hard

chip shot. The hard chip shot and just skinny, completely tight chip shot for your life. It's like two and a half feet for everything. I man I was I was in I was in no hair this morning and I've been looking at stuff like since last night and I'm like I'm like fly to Evansville. Like I've been thinking about it. Then I looked at them like, like it was impossible for me to get from Evansville to Toledo tonight, or even tomorrow morning, without like running a car and driving six and a half hours.

And then I thought, oh my god, what if like, what if he doesn't, what if he doesn't make it? Yeah, it could be. That could be really tough. And like, I don't know, like just so background, Justin three years ago, Mrs. A7 foot birdie putt on the 72nd hole at Cornferrey Tour Championship or web tour championship at the time and like hit a good putt and Mrs. It finishes 26. I think you

missed it by like $50 and every like just I think we've only been with them for this kind of journey for like the last three or four years, but just knowing like everything that he's been through, his personal story. And... Which we've talked about, and he's been on the trap trail. We did a video about it, but just... I was gonna say, please seek that out. The broad strokes, he lost his dad,

lost his brother in the same day, in the same accident. Like, just... And that has like unbelievable perspective on everything is so well spoken and interesting and thoughtful and just a kind, awesome guy. And yeah, we're all just extremely happy for him. And never knew how good he was. He played D3 College Golf. Was the best at D3 College Golf. Goes and plays Hooters Tour and all these mini tours keeps winning and all that and like he's done it

the hard way and he's a be a 31 32 33 year old PGA tour rookie next year and and he's like and like even this year like he he played exceptionally well during the regular season almost like he's he's lost in playoffs each of the last two or three seasons for his first win and he's always just right there on the bubble. Like all year he's been hanging out 28, 31st. As I was saying, how everybody always says like, what a great story Zach Johnson is

and like how he overcame all these odds and stuff. Like it's a very similar story. He just got a couple of like really bad balances, man. And just that have kept him off the big tour, basically. Right. Yeah. In all my years of falling sports, I don't think I've ever rooted for somebody as hard and as earnestly

as I have for him for the last two or three years. It's super exciting. We got a couple videos to the corporate tour post that his interview afterwards is his message to Taylor Montgomery, who finished 26. Like, couldn't even get through it, saying like, I've been that guy. Like, I know exactly like you're going to have your day.

And it's just, yeah, the span of emotions between, you know, the highest level of the most cash available in a day to somebody playing for their card to like also us being here in Toledo to people that aren't even playing for money. It's a what weird week of golf and it wasn't supposed to overlap this way and COVID kind of forced it and I know I'm super excited that the soulheim gets his date to itself there on Monday. If you're listening to this on Monday, please do tune into the afternoon as matches go off shortly afternoon. But yeah, a lot, lot's to take in.

We'll do be doing another pod tomorrow night or Monday night and reaction to the Solemn Cup finale. But for now, let's go, let's go watch some singles. Love it. Let's do it. Cheers. Good stuff. On. Good night, club.

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