No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 480: Thursday Ryder Cup Recap

Episode Date: September 24, 2021

We sum up our day at Whistling Straits, preview each match tomorrow, chat about Whistling's effect on the crowd, Poulter, some adjusted predictions, predict what we're gonna see in the afternoon, and ...a lot more. Kyle Porter crashes the party about halfway through, Soly tells a JT story, and we're definitely ready for this thing to start.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah! That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome. We are live here in Herb Roller in Coler, Wisconsin directly across the street from Whistling Straits.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Sally here, big Neil Schuster is here. Hello, Neil. Big Neil Schuster coming to you live from Herb Roller. TC is here. Hello, TC. Greetings. Glad to be here. I'm in enemy territory. We will address that. I'm sure DJ Pies here. Hello, Pies. Hello, how are you guys? We are doing this live. You might be listening on the podcast feed. If you are, then you'll hear audio is normal. We are doing two different mics. We got a Yeti mic here in the middle that is trying to pick up everything for the live stream, normal mics. So bear with us.
Starting point is 00:01:07 The conditions are really difficult out here. They're very tough. We're also in an RV in the middle of frigging Wisconsin. And we're streaming this. And live stream. So listen, the people get what they get. Exactly. So our rollers on Cinder blocks out here.
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Starting point is 00:02:31 because they're gonna build like a million more. Of course, they have a lot of crazy. A lot of great stuff going on. So, you're saying Valley's a very good seat still available, situation. There's a lot of land out there. All right, we spent the day at the rider cup. You guys first ever day at the rider cup. Take me there. What's the like? First day, it was wet
Starting point is 00:02:49 and windy today. And and the first order I'd say. Yes, windy and then it was wet and big heavy rain drops coming off the lake. Very menacing skies. Rain coming from the ground. It kind of was the embodiment of the logo, you know, the big cloudy guy just herbcola. Yeah, the big cloudy dude. So, but no, it was good. The course looks amazing from the like vistas you view it from, you're kind of up on top when you walk in. It is slick out there. People are going to have to watch their step. It might be safer when it gets wet versus when it's dry. I was trying to warn you, the dry is where they get you. That's where you get your full of confidence.
Starting point is 00:03:30 You get that fescue land down where everybody's been walking. It's truly game over. There's a few spots we walked out, out nine up the left side of nine fairway, and then there's a mound or a big hump that you have to cross over to get to the merchandise tent You could set up a webcam there and I'd pay like I pay like 10 bucks an hour to watch people Neil had some I got some you know that's videos. I want to apologize. I was laughing way too hard at some of the videos
Starting point is 00:03:57 Neil had people on all porous coming up the hill They were expecting patrons climbing up hills on all fours. I mean, it's it's a bleak There's gonna be calls to release the tapes. I don't know if I want to do that to those poor souls They're bear crawling up these these mounds. That seems like a thing you needed permission for exactly Cody it looked like it's on your ticket. It looked like Ranger school or the stuff that they're doing over in like a bada bada You know, oh in the terrorist training camp a monkey bar. We're missing monkey bars Yeah, you can tell T.C TC has spent a lot of time over there. But I said it looks like.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Okay, also I want to give a shout out to a lot of the people, another free ad of course, but we did, we switched the moon man. What do you think? It's fine. Spot of cows, spot of cows better, but your feedback, your feedback, you know, it doesn't fall on deaf ears over here. We listen. Pro-tractual things.
Starting point is 00:04:44 We just don't agree we just disagree yeah yeah and that's fine fair and i got a little cut a little flat for saying spot accounts just okay i'll triple down you got you got a flat for corner cult thing what is that i said it's for sure a thing yeah yeah that's exactly what is what it's called cold but that's another it's all right that's you know quick the rail you know how you you know that it is actually a cult when somebody starts with i mean it kind of sounds like a cult, but it's not a cult. Solid, it's always also shooting on spotted count and drinking a seltzer. So I love my seltzer. You know I like my seltzer.
Starting point is 00:05:14 I'm keeping it with a seltzer. Cody the biggest bad ass I know is also has a seltzer, so I feel like I'm in very good company here. What was our biggest takeaway today? Should we start there? company here. What was our biggest takeaway today? Should we start there? That the lead up to the Ryder Cup is very long. And this is my third straight day out there. I don't really know what I was doing out there. It's nice to see some people, nice to catch up with some people. There hasn't been a lot of that in the world in general in about a year and a half now. But yeah, they kind of was like rolling my eyes, the whole celebrity Ryder Cup thing, whatever. But it's kind of like, you know what? People need something to wash out. There the whole celebrity writer cup thing whatever but it's kind of like you know what people need something to
Starting point is 00:05:45 Watch it else going on there's not a lot going out there That's kind of you go to walk the beautiful golf course and you go to just go ham on the merch tent Which I think you guys did some auditing him get there what was going on out there We can get there. I think we're gonna want to talk pairings prior a little before that but how many golf shots you guys see today? I didn't get any I saw zero zero. I saw Tony Kukouc, shit a shot. Oh, okay. Congrats. Aller than I thought.
Starting point is 00:06:08 We all know. I thought I'd keep you posted. I'll keep you posted. From the the euros Sasha Vujavitch. Yeah. Who else? I'll tell you what you think Tony Kukouc is. Six nine.
Starting point is 00:06:17 See, that's what I said. I'll tell you. Yeah, six nine six ten. Six eleven. Really? Yeah. DJ didn't want to believe me. He smooth. Yeah. Should we start with pairings? Go right into it. Yeah. 611 really yeah DJ didn't want to believe me he smooth yeah
Starting point is 00:06:30 Should we talk should we start with pairings go right into it? Yeah, we're kind of we finally we finally have something to talk about on the golf side Exactly we are rolling right into This straight from the opening ceremonies So I don't know what to do with this right because the US team picked the six guys that I wanted them to pick and they sent out The exact pairings that I would want them to, so if they lose this rider cup, you gotta wear this. I'm in a really tough spot. Personal indictment.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Yeah, I don't know. Kind of in that JT speak. Yeah, like, you know what we're talking about last night? Yeah, you want the ball? You want the ball, well then you gotta be okay taking it on the chin when it doesn't go your way. I will, I will own that. You have my word right here.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I'd love to see them get run out of the gym. We know that tomorrow. No, but like to the point and actually we're we're having lunch with Andy and Brendan you're saying the same thing like the best the best possible scenario is them just getting the shit beat out of them and it's like everybody's turning the gun on everybody I think that's the most compelling thing about this I'm with you in that still rooting for the US. I hope the US, hope the US wins it, but I can. There's no Tom Watson bogeyman.
Starting point is 00:07:30 I'm very curious to see. It's very kumbaya. We got new blood. We got a new system. We're ready to go. Nobody beats us 17 times in a row. Kind of vibe out there. I'm curious to see when the guns turn.
Starting point is 00:07:43 How quickly they waved the wife like. I would say though I would adjust what is compelling to say yes, if they get the doors blown off tomorrow, what then they they come back on Sunday, right? I want to see him face some of the no, because I've seen that movie before where they get the doors blown off and then they kind of come back and it looks like it might be closed. And then they lose by four. We've already seen that. Yeah, but what if they win by three, you know? Well, listen, that'd be, it's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:08:06 I thought it'd be pretty cool right there. I totally, like, get out to a running start. That's pretty cool. That's three-one in the morning. And then it's, you know, it's six-two after the first day, Europe, Clauseback, Saturday, and then, you know, complete comeback, Cinderella story on Sunday and singles You know and it's just that it's a stroke's gained masterpiece from the Europeans, right? I don't even I know I don't know what to do with any of that like that
Starting point is 00:08:34 Well, you know, he's laid out the case that I had for the US, but for the Euros you just make sense because that's what you're rooting for You just like the three only three things that could happen for the Europeans to win. But I guess what we're all rooting for is it's either back and forth and very interesting because the lead is changing or it's the US, the favorite getting their doors blown off. Those are anything, if it's just the US kind of gradually ahead, almost like, what the data is telling us, like the Stroke's game,
Starting point is 00:09:03 they're just gonna be a little bit better, which are days then that wouldn't be very compelling. Well, let's get into the matches because I think, I think Europe also put out, apart from maybe the Fitzpatrick Westwood team, which we can talk about, T.C. can talk about specifically. Europe did some thing different than I thought they would. They did, but I don't know, I like their teams.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I like what they threw out and I think it's, it doesn't, it doesn't, there's a couple of bare-knuckle brawls out there. It doesn't smell like a blowout either way tomorrow. So they they threw out and I think it's, it doesn't, it doesn't, there's a couple of baronuckle brawls out there. Yeah, it doesn't smell like a blowout either way tomorrow. So they got five dudes that I think are their horses. What I would say, like, Ram, Sergio, Hovlin, Casey, and Rory, are like the five dudes that I think are just,
Starting point is 00:09:35 like, no question marks. You're saying Casey's a horse. I absolutely, come on, Casey's a horse. I think he's in very good golf. He's in the stable. Yeah, for sure. So I thought what they would do, they have done in the past is like send out a guy like
Starting point is 00:09:49 ROM or someone with a rookie, like kind of say, we're taking our stars and we're gonna divide them up, but they went with two superstar pairings, ROM and Sergio, Hovelin and Casey are the first two guys out, and then they threw Westy and Fitz together, which that surprised me. That, I don't, of course famous last words words. I don't want to say it feels like a sacrificial lamb in front of Captain Burgers' feet, but like if I'm team here,
Starting point is 00:10:11 that's going to be the biggest odds difference on paper for sure. With Europe, like, I look at this and all right, maybe it's three two or, uh, or like two and a half, one and a half or like, I don't think it's a three and a half, half point or something like that. Like I think it feels somewhat close tomorrow anyway you slice it. Yeah, I agree. And I even, I mean, this is classic fence sitting
Starting point is 00:10:35 waffling here, but I mean Westwood Fitzpatrick, Fitzpatrick, we're getting reports from, you know, Evanston, all the Northwestern of loves. Coach Fitzgerald. He exited. I'm sure we're getting like Wilbon. Everybody from the Mdill. The Mdill School is reporting this.
Starting point is 00:10:55 You know, as a Mdill grad, you know, it's official, but Fitzpatrick absolutely flushing the ball out there. The likes of which we haven't seen possibly since Harrison. You know how long we've been there way too long? Because I've heard people back. Oh, yeah, he's sitting there. I heard people back. Yeah, Fitz is really struggling out there, the likes of which we haven't seen possibly since Harris English. You know how long we've been there way too long because I've heard people back. Oh yeah, he's sitting in great. I heard people like, yeah, Fitz is really struggling out there. Which is the, that's what happens when you can see two and a half golf shots or the whole course of the day.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I will say, I mean, do you walk past me and he was, he's sneezed. I think he might be all on the flip side. Like, I have not heard a single person say hadn't, yeah, I've heard some tough, tough stuff. Which like honestly worries me more. I topped a ball today say hadn't. Yeah, I've heard some tough stuff. Which like honestly worries me more. It's top to ball today, I guess. Oh, really? Yeah. They made it.
Starting point is 00:11:30 It sounds like it was an uneven lie. Which is a compelling comment. Yes, that's right. So that could make him the MVP for the wrong reason. Where I was going to go with that. He could be the spark is like Westwood and Fitzpatrick is obviously not their strongest team. But also it's
Starting point is 00:11:45 foursums, it's all shot, it's one of those things, it's like, man, if you get any kind of gnarly weather, if you get, you know, just go and shooting one, two under as a foursums team, like you can win a full point, right? And so if they play steady and they make some putts, who knows? I have the odds if you want to get for each match, if you'd like. The first match, first match out sure JT and spieth verse rom and Sergio. What do you think of course? Of course the minus 120. I think rom and Sergio are favored there
Starting point is 00:12:13 I think I was gonna say it's probably pretty close to even the JT and spieth are minus one 15 rom Sergio minus 105 Okay, okay, Dustin Johnson and Colin Moore cowover's Paul Casey and Victor Houghlin and match two I think I would take the euros in that one. I think that's I think that's even money I got I got DJ and more Kawa DJ more Kawa minus 120 and then even money plus 100 for Casey and Havlin You're in a lot of chatter about more Kawa's back and you know More Kawa the reports have been that he's totally fine and healthy now. So, um, third match, Capca and burger against Westwood and Fitzpatrick. Mine is 300.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Yeah, this feels like a, uh, it's closer than you think. Capca and burger minus 150. It could be like, it's like a, it's like an FSU trap game. They lost to Jacksonville. That's a great call. He's right. It does feel like a trap game where those lost to Jacksonville. That's a great call, these are right. This does feel like a trap game where those two guys come out, those first two pairings come out
Starting point is 00:13:09 and it's like they're, you know, their horses are winning. And then all of a sudden, all of a sudden it's like, oh shit, like Westwood and Fitz were supposed to be the, you know, the Sassifieds. And they're there of two up. They're the one double A school, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:23 paid to come in. And that's where I feel like upset, sitting mean, that's where I feel like upset sitting. That's where I feel like Brooks turns into, you know, I'm okay, cool. Oh, I guess we lost. I don't fucking care. We're just fucking old shut. I play my own ball.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Be these fucking clowns on myself. Oh, you guys cared about this? I do like the Brooks and burger team, I think is compelling. Last match, Cantland, Shoffley against Rory and Polter. I'm really, really, really.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Exactly. That's a really great, fire and ice matchup right there. I've got Cantlay and Zander. Zander. Cantlay got to be favorite. Fairly. Minus 200.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Minus 130. Okay. And then Rory and Polter plus 110. I'm going Rory and Polter there all day long. I think that's a huge upset. That would be plus 110 That's insane odds. T.C. got absolutely farted on by the Sky Sports people today as we were
Starting point is 00:14:12 Tron and I did a game. We did a live hit on Sky Sports TV. We were hitting we were full-time haters today It was just Tron's laying out this whole compelling case about you know, I'm It's against the odds. I'm rooting for Europe and Jamie we're, you're a friend of the program. I was like, yeah, you know, I mean, I, well, it won like nine of last 12. Like it doesn't sound like you're out on that big of a limb here. Congratulations on all the adversity you faced. What are the odds? Overall, I think they changed at all. They have changed a little bit more in favor of the US.
Starting point is 00:14:43 I saw also minus 215 for US, plus 240 for Europe and plus 1200 for a time. All right, they're an underdog. They're a dog. People want to piss. You know, and they're partly dogs because people are morons, people are sheep, people are slaves to the strokes gained metrics.
Starting point is 00:15:00 You have a complex going on with strokes gained here. It's a lot of like you know snow to my house About this climate change stuff I should use a little bit of that global warming over here That's how I wear your strokes game bias is provided be up here. We're talking small sample sizes We're talking totally different. You know you're dog and pole We're talking about you can't measure heart Intangibles come on guys call for the Paul you couldn't me these girls play together man. Which is to be an assistant captain.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Chess should. Yeah. No, I mean, you're happy he's not for the US they'd be playing so hard out there. If you say about losing a job to him. We're sitting on the pod last night and solid be downgrading Pulters match play record or Ryder Cup record. Polters like 46 and 15 lifetime and match play as a professional in team competitions and WGC. That's pretty substantial. I think where I think you would agree
Starting point is 00:15:56 we're at the sunset of that career though. Totally. But it's also like he's at a pretty decent. Of course. Oh, he's like the match play dude. He's one of the WGC twice, right? Like, it's not. I'm not doggy as a match play record.
Starting point is 00:16:08 I'm doggy and like, hey, at that golf course at this age, when you haven't really had that great of a year, like, yeah, I'm probably dead. I'm not like leaning whiffs of big daddy. Age is just a number. TC, you are also like, I listened to the pod this morning. You were like, yeah, I'm not riding for Polter at all. And now you're riding for Polter.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Wait, come on. No, I'm not riding. I regret my feet on polter's couch. I'm not riding against him though either I am riding for weasperger. I think weasperger is gonna be a four ball Savant out there. Okay You heard it here for do you have anything to support that or absolutely? Okay, I'm fine with that a good. It's just a gut feeling. I think burger. I like burger. I like Lowry. I like We spurt hold on. Let's go back though to because we we caught out the odds, but on the four pairings make a pick make a pick so JT Speed ROM Sergio. I'm going team tapas
Starting point is 00:16:59 Spaniards I think this yeah or top of the American team the American TV American team. The team that would pronounce it tapas. Team tapas. I'm going with the Spaniards. They call them Spaniards. Somebody made this a really interesting point earlier. They said they should be a lot of Heather out there. They should be Florida versus like Florida versus the rest of the world. That's what I was saying.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Yeah, Team US versus Team Florida. Tomato. Yeah, you've got all these tapas. You're a team that's living Florida to me that tomato. Yeah, you've got all these tapers top to live in Florida playing the PJ tour. Yeah, team USA version. First one I'm going I'm going team team Peaches. The Spaniards. The cold and Spaniard team. Hamone. I can't pick the US and not pick SpeedJT in that match. It's kind of how I feel. It feels like, I'm gonna be patient. I'm gonna make this promise now.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Europe could go three one in the morning and I will not panic. I'll be totally fine. Yeah, I'm trying to make these unbiased picks. What I think, I could see Ram and Sergio coming out. That's a talented team. It's a great team, right there. I think they shot the course record at Austin Golf Club last week.
Starting point is 00:18:03 And I could see, I could see, Speed and JT,T though I'm rooting for the US getting off to a slow start because they've been you know all LFG all week. Maybe it's like all crap, man. We're not playing that well. See my concern would be speed in JT coming out digging dukes of hazard getting it and then Completely like using up too much energy on that and wearing themselves out, pump up the crowd all morning and then he sends them out again in the afternoon. Shout out Tom Watson. And it's like, oh my God, we're kind of exhausted, dude.
Starting point is 00:18:37 They're young. I think they'll be all right, I don't know. I feel like that would be kind of an own goal to like wear yourself out, getting the crowd right. I do think, I mean, Neil had a good point today. I feel like that would be kind of an own goal to like wear yourself out getting the crowd wild. I do think, I mean, Neil had a good point today. Like it's a little bit muted out there. It is.
Starting point is 00:18:51 The weather, how far is it? It's a bit too late. You were talking about it a couple of days ago too. It's a big ballpark. The wind. Yeah. It's hard to, when you can't hear anything else from around the golf course, all you can hear is wind.
Starting point is 00:19:04 It's shit, little wind. It there's, it's shit little wind. It's a, it's almost like someone going, shh, constantly, all day and you're, yeah. Like, stop talking. And it has like a building effect, whereas like there was, and Hazeltein, there was a natural inclination to cheer and chant. And people were just doing it, right?
Starting point is 00:19:19 Now the hurdle to like get over that is even bigger. You almost have like force yourself into the chance and stuff. And I know it's practice rounds, but do the practice rounds at Hazelteam were lit. Like it was like people going back and forth. I know the European fans kind of helped drive some of that too. And it's usually a good natured banter,
Starting point is 00:19:33 but like this was dead a couple of days of practice rounds as far as the crowd interaction. Like, LFG. Everybody's also worried about getting got out there. Like that. You had on a swivel trying to like, focus on where they're walking. Truly, everybody's head is like,
Starting point is 00:19:47 legitimately down. It sounds so stupid for anybody who's never been here. That is a legit factor. You know what I was related to? I did not enjoy walking out, like walking around out there because I'm trying out to fucking fall down. I'll tell you how it went to. Did you fell?
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yeah, it's like two for Sally one for you, do you fall? No, I did, no. It's like slam port. Well, they'll work leads. I work leads. Like, well golf, like very like slam port. Well, they'll work leads. I work leads I won't golf like very very They were they were They're like their metal spikes It's like it's like slam ball like there's gonna be so many torn ACLs blown up miniscus
Starting point is 00:20:16 Or miniskai think of all the athletes that blew out their shit and that's just from Kevka tackling people Yeah, I hope the fans don't go it is neat. I know I know You guys get on a swivel out there shit and that's just from Kevka tackling people. Yeah, well, I hope the fans don't go it is neat. I know. I know. You got to get on a swivel out there. Before we get any further here, I'm taking JT and speed. I don't think I got anything to say. We're going to get some matches and we're going to get some afternoon stuff as well.
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Starting point is 00:22:26 Can I tell you something? I have not heard that adry before. It was compelling. All right. No, no. You're happy. You're having a very specific reason. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I love to see Randy get into the stack. That would be such an interesting, well, I think, 2022. All right. We say Randy, hey, your swing speed is 78 miles an hour right now. Need him to buy in, but I would love that. We got to get you up above here. I think they could change his body. I don't think they could change his mind.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Yeah, unfortunately. Is there any tilting going on in this? There's no tilt. It's all stack. All stack no tilt. Okay, okay, okay. Interesting. Um, do we, do we all make our picks for match one? I'm gonna go in that I might change
Starting point is 00:23:07 I'm gonna go with a draw because he's gonna be very fair of you. I appreciate reaching across Yeah, I'm with TC. I'm going with the drop. Don't leave me hanging. Oh Yeah, that's a compelling match. I think it's gonna be I think it's going the distance. I think it's the one right I mean, that's the one I'm gonna go try and follow. I think that's the key the on paper match of the day So match to DJ more cow up for first shot JT or speed I'm gonna go try and follow. I think that's the key on paper match of the day. So, match two, DJ Moore, Cala versus... Who hits the first shot? JT or Speed? I would bet that it's JT.
Starting point is 00:23:30 I think so too. I think JT goes on. I think it's all based on the holes, right? Right, so my theory... How do the Part Three's line up? Three Part Three's are odds. Three Part Five's are three. Three is seven, 17.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Yes, and 12 is the other one. So, I know you want JT hitting. So that Speed is hitting the, and twelve is the other one. So if you ask a really JT hitting, so that speed is hitting the birdie putts on the part three. It's not a, it's, we're not talking like true, all shot. It's, it's all correct. So it, you know what T.C., if you have that question, someone else in the class probably has the same question. Which I just learned.
Starting point is 00:23:59 I have that question too, man. There's a golf digest article. You can trade ball, you can use balls off different, like the odds and events So they would you would typically do it so that isn't that what Zinger got in trouble for right? Well that rule was from us. Yes, Steve Bleser. He messed it up He played they did the wrong order so you want to have your own ball be the one you play into the green So when speed T's off I think they use the same ball
Starting point is 00:24:22 But when speed T's off He's gonna use JT's ball because that's what you want. Hitting into the green off the tee doesn't really matter that much was feels quote in the golf digest article, but you want your own ball when you hit it into the green, which they're both titles guys. I wonder if they play the same ball. I think they do, but for other pairings that you know, I think like Dustin Johnson and Columnmore, Kyle played different spin ball, but the guy would. In theory, you would have whoever hits the approach shot in is that's the ball you would play on the even an on-holes. Think about the, sorry, we can give it, I was thinking manufacturers, I didn't really break it down by that. Oh yeah, the force of this big with that. Profiles, for sure.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Manufacturer does not mean you play this in the ball. JT and Speed, both like, titleists. Burger and Brooks, Brooks doesn't have a deal, but I think plays titleists. I think so. I think Burger play. Where's Taylor made? Can't landers always going all around with stuff. I think Burger plays title.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Can't landers, title is ball. Sanders playing Crumpsoft. Can't land, yeah, they played different spin profiles too. So that would be, that rule, I just didn't know that until Sanders playing the LS. No, he plays the Crumpsoft deck. The X, yeah. So it's, it's interesting. So I think what's going to happen with JT going off the odds would be trying to
Starting point is 00:25:29 manage, like trying to work through his being Strokes game approach play being one of the best on the US team and giving speed more birdie looks would be the idea, right? Because that would mean speed is probably putting for birdie on the par 5s. No, that would be JT speed would be potentially putting for eagle on the par-fives. No, that would be JT. Speeds would be potentially putting for eagle on the par-fives. Which you kind of blew me away thinking, I have always pictured JT being way longer than spieth. It sounded like that wasn't totally the case. I think he is longer like on paper,
Starting point is 00:25:55 but the few holes that I watched just all of a sudden turn the same ballpark. Yeah, they're in the same ballpark. He's also like, JT leaves more in the tank, right? I think the, from a ball perspective, like Rory and Polter, is super interesting. It's going to have your phone like that, think the from a ball perspective like Rory and Polter. It's cool to have your phone like that. You say from a ball perspective. That's fair. Okay. I think I think Rory and Polter like Rory would seem like one of these guys that get spooked by
Starting point is 00:26:17 playing another ball or you know variables being introduced like that. They've played all they played all together in 2018 though, in France, I think. I don't know. Roy's playing new equipment though since then, right? No, he was on the same other at that point. So, all right, so second match, DJ Moorakawa versus Hovlin and Casey. I've got the Americans here.
Starting point is 00:26:39 I like the Americans. I think DJ Moorakawa. I know I was dog and DJ and team player. You better like the Americans here. You better be right after your DJ. After you're way in on Hovelin, man. Oh, wow. Not putting your money where you're not for some DJ.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I told you, I think Morica, I might be damaged goods right now. Don't like that. DJ is getting saddled with another loser. Oh my God. The never going for the years. Can't be his fault. Morica was bunting it out there.
Starting point is 00:27:02 God, they need to fly in Kooja. No, two guys have Kooja's available. They play in a similar ball flight. They both play cut. Yeah, yeah. It just feels like, I don't know. Sometimes Mora Kau feels like mini DJ, just the way he strikes.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Like, that's how tongue-leaf. Fair enough. Well, I think it's going to be an absolute ball hitter party out there. Yeah, that's going to be a good match too. Yeah, those guys are ball hitters. I said that in the, you like that one? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:30 I said that in the newsletter today too, I think. But that, we talked about JT spieth, and I think a lot hinges on them. And I think they have the chance to pump a lot of juice and a lot of energy into it. This is an important match though. I think Mark Howe, DJ is a sneaky, important pairing, right? Where it's like, those guys, if they click, could be fucking unstoppable. Yes, right?
Starting point is 00:27:52 And if they get bit, I believe I said, if they get bit by the injury and the DGA F bug, it could be like, what the short putz bug. Yeah. DJs are putz bug. It could putter though. In all levels of putting. I kind of like, Iz bug. Yeah, what he did is a short putz bug. It could put her though. In all levels of putting. I kind of like, I like how I can...
Starting point is 00:28:07 How do you use lag putting them? Oh, it's guys, the best lag putting them. He's the best lag putter of all time. I kind of like more cow putting in an environment like this. Like it burped, or sorry, at St. George's, which is like a little bit of elements going on and it was just not like pristine, not pristine PGA tour greens.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Like that's what he seems to really struggle on. Whereas, you know, some of the weirder greens or it's what he seems to really struggle on whereas you know some of the Weirder greens or some a little bit funkier a little more like more variables in there I feel like he puts less pressure on it's already so weird as a bad putter Well, I was just gonna think like like I'm a bad putter just stroke wise and fast greens are like like my Savior because my I can shorten my stroke and it's just a lot more cerebral versus it's a lot more stroke based on slower green. For me.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Extremely half baked here, but I wonder if some of that is growing up on Poana. Could be. For more cow. Yeah. Like one of my favorite quotes of all time, I think it was Zander. You know, coincidentally, it was Zander.
Starting point is 00:29:03 It was Zander. It was Zander. I think it was Zander. Yeah. It was talking about how Poana. Zander, a cantaloupe. I think it was Zander. I was talking about how Poin is an attitude grass. Basically, if you're standing over it and you think you're gonna miss, or you think you're like, oh, dude, I'm just gonna hit the wrong bump. And like, yeah, you're gonna miss. You're not gonna make it.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Whereas, that's almost what, more Kawa. That's almost how he looked. We got a visitor. I told him to come in. Oh, hey. Cheers. Kyle Porter in the house. Oh, no. Another member of the Stroke's game, come on. Oh, hey! Dude! Kyle Porter in the house. Oh, what?
Starting point is 00:29:25 Another member of the Stroke's game, come on. Ha-ha-ha-ha. No, I think more Kyle, it's almost like a... That's how he looked at St. George's, right? Where it was just kind of like... Alright, cool. I know I'm going to ram this in, and like there's not really another way this is going to go.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Porter, how are you, man? Give me your biggest takeaway from today. What have you thought of the last 30 minutes of what we've talked about here? Yeah, I think I think my biggest takeaway is Jimmy Walker missed out on being at this writer cup. He got to set up the RV right next to you. Oh, that's good point. A lot of those guys are like ZJ's RV guy now too, right? And Bubba Jason D. I'm surprised he's not eligible for the US team. He's like an honorary American at this point. It's true. It's good. What do you think of the outfits?
Starting point is 00:30:08 By the way, do you go to the opening ceremonies? No, okay. No, I watched it. I'd screen shot it in the media center I think you're out there on the Fox hunt right now Harry's English looked like Multiple Roman numerals andals in his last name. I mean, that was like, like his grandfather's a billionaire for sure. Harry the six, that's what it looked like. The tweed was his, it was, it was an interesting color of
Starting point is 00:30:34 tweed as well. Yeah, a lot of, a lot of brown in there. Rob Riggle was a choice as well. That was a, what a, what a, what a aggressive beard. Yeah. It was like a Darren Clark style. He looks like he looks like Ship ship next been out in the woods for I too long That's where I wriggle look. Well, I didn't realize he was a marine. I mean who robbed Cody. I couldn't
Starting point is 00:30:58 That's a just a weird quote of course So we're my boy. Yeah, that's right. Who you got? DJ Moore Cowover, softland and Casey, who you got? Uh, DJ Moore Cowover fit together so well. Like you just maybe too well. Just their style. But Casey and Casey and Havana are two of the, I mean, Sturks game, two of the three best guys this year. So free on, on your upside. Mm-hmm. I think I might go Havana and Casey's I think how I think flip it on your ass I think hovelin's gonna have a big week. I could see that easily I I you surprised that Europe went with kind of like two mega teams like combining ROM Sergio
Starting point is 00:31:36 You have a wooden wooden the choice there have been bend to go hoblin Rory if you wanted to go two mega teams to me They kind of split up hob they split up hoblin and put him with Casey and put Rory, if you wanted a two mega teams. To me, they kind of split up, they split up Hovelin and put him with Casey and put Rory with Polter. And then, so they kind of created, instead of creating two mega teams, they had the Spain and then kind of two lesser. They created three teams, like they didn't completely split up the talent.
Starting point is 00:32:00 They completed like three teams instead of two. When they could have split them up and done, you know, four teams and weak and strong, but instead it's like three teams and then they'll kind of they'll kind of figure it out with that. The thing I don't understand is your boy Fitsy getting the nod. Today I was walking with Andy, Andy John's going to Friday today and he was like, what's the worst pairing you can come up with on each day? Which kind of means for you. But also where is he's usually so optimistic about everything.
Starting point is 00:32:32 And I think I said Westwood Fitzpatrick. I mean, what? I don't know. I think it's probably Westwood Hatten at this point, right? Yeah, Hatten is apparently off the planet. So the only thing I'll say about the, and I don't know if we're transitioning into it now, but the Westwood Fitzpatrick pairing is,
Starting point is 00:32:52 it sounds like from what we've heard, everybody's going to play every day, right? So it's not like, so everybody's gonna play at least three matches and everybody, it sounds like playing five. Well, it's certainly scrumplings, which I don't know if I'd buy. I don't mean it.
Starting point is 00:33:03 It seems like ROM has to go five. It seems like Rory has to go five. Patrick's throwing up a lot, a I don't know if I buy I don't think like rom has to go 5 It seems like worry has to go 5 podric song up a lot a lot a lot of smoke Yeah, so yeah, so what I'm getting at there is if the I would have like believe that the bottom level One is true and that everybody's gonna play every day. So it's like well if everybody's gonna play every day You need to put Fitzpatrick and Westwood in four sim, and I don't really love breaking up any of those other teams, so it is almost like a role of the dice, right? Which is where they're gonna fit and hope for the best. So a lot of people were saying Europe in 2018,
Starting point is 00:33:34 like kind of rope adoped the US into like sending out like their top guns in the morning for four ball, and then rolled into ForSums in the afternoon, and that's where Europe just wiped a slate clean, because US's pairings like looked, like they made a lot of cents in the afternoon, and that's where Europe just wiped the slate clean, because US's pairings looked like they made a lot of sense in the morning, but then when they had to rotate in the B squad, it was a lot of dudes out there that were just like, well, how did you come up with that pairing?
Starting point is 00:33:53 And I kind of wonder if Europe is kind of putting the big guns out in the morning, and then you look at how they're gonna line it up in the afternoon, if everyone's gonna play, a US no matter what, is gonna have a nice slate in the afternoon. Unless they're going to go big on the horses and you know like if they're going to sit VeeSberg if they're
Starting point is 00:34:09 going to sit hadn't for the whole day that's it goes again just shitting on Weasberg that changes the whole thing I mean I really do think so I think the morning could go either way but I would be very surprised that the US lost forble I would be very surprised if you didn't play ROM, Rory, hoblin, and Sergio, all five. I don't know how you can sit there. I don't know how you can sit hoblin, ROM, or Sergio. I think Rory, maybe, you sit here.
Starting point is 00:34:36 What about Casey? Like, I'm not playing Casey. I'd rather have me. Casey feels like he, like, if you're looking at the last couple of years, feels like he's a better player than Sergio. At the end of the day, though, I think he's probably got some sort of metrics or some sort of analysis going about energy levels and stuff like that, like three days in a row or
Starting point is 00:34:58 like looking at tea time waves. And you would think, I think Casey could sit a four ball. It's probably like, I mean, he once these guys fresh for singles, right? That's what I don't like, Sergio's in his 40s, right? You, I don't see all five on that golf course. What there's gonna be some elements. Oh, many birdies though.
Starting point is 00:35:13 He does, but like, he has to have them in 40s. That's 40s to four. He has to have them in 40s to fours of me. You know, fours of them's on Saturday, but not even 40. Yeah. Um, I, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:21 I, I really am curious what Europe's gonna do. And I, I do think a, a bad thing, of their big five, two of them being in their 40s, kind of limits what they can do. I don't see ROM, or I'm sorry, I don't see Sergio and I don't see Casey going five. I think people are underestimating though like Scotty Schuffler's in his 40s.
Starting point is 00:35:36 That's true. People forget. Sergio's played I think 41 of 44 possible sessions over the course of his career. He's only sat in three sessions and Roy's never sat And Roy's never sat so I just isn't this golf course a lever sat? Isn't this golf 24 or 24? Isn't they had that they had that weird session in 2010 where they where it got rained out and crazy
Starting point is 00:35:58 That's crazy, dad. Yeah, isn't this golf course different though like playing in the elements and Isn't this golf course different though like playing in the elements and a little bit more difficult walk is different than doing this in Hazelteen in 72 degrees and easy grass walks in between holes and like the stadium golf. Well, we were also like climbing mountains today That's what's not I said I had to walk outside the ropes no chance and no chance and the yeah and the wind in your ears just who you got the first match and the wind in your ears. Exactly. Who you got the first match? I mean, I picked the US to win 17-11, so I got a, you got to get to get a lead.
Starting point is 00:36:33 You got to get a lead. I think JT Speed. Sergio Rammer just nasty, though. That's terrifying. That's what I nasty spend. But I've also heard those two don't get along that much. And like, it was, I mentioned that, like, oh, I could see those two getting paired
Starting point is 00:36:46 and someone on the British side was like, oh, no, those two guys don't like each other. And of course, they are paired. But I have heard that there's, you know, not a great relationship there, but who knows, you're famous for their bond. It's the legend of Steve Bolesteros, right? You got a bond on this TV.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Sergio's been so good. I don't know why. T.C., the euros are gonna know what to do with you on their team You just root. I saw a remake down. He said shame on you like get the hell out of you Just a man here, but you're rooting for the euros I said I you know you you could have said that to me five or six years ago I think I proved my bonafide a man But no country. You prepared something Kim dotcom last night. I think that's kind of becoming more and more sure.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Exactly. I got to go to New Zealand or Hong Kong or New Far-Headed Western. I do a question. Do they get through the first hole tomorrow without a mention of Sebi? Not even in the first place. Do they get to the first shot hit?
Starting point is 00:37:40 No. OK. No. OK. Headline 1a. I do. I want to learn the number of players in the world. And one of the best writer cup players of all time does your way. Those two will be the focus of
Starting point is 00:37:51 back group come out with the word Seville on the back of their shirts bar. There might be some skywriters out there. See that right with the planes. I want to go back to DJ Mooracawa for a second, though, because I think that's it. There's an interesting chemistry there of DJ, I guess what I was saying earlier, I said, Moorakawa feels like mini DJ. I feel like better way to say that would be like younger brother.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Like, same, you know, they're both playing Taylor made stuff. And Moorakawa seems like a very jolly guy. Like he feels like he would be, he's not like hype to do it. I want to visit people, like you could ever imagine. I want to push back on you. No, but like, let me lay off all the things. East Coast, West Coast.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Okay, can you come to death row? Yeah, coastal Carolina versus Cal. Sure. The hot school. I think five, I just want you to picture just for a second, like you're going through the line getting a hot dog, getting some baked beans at the
Starting point is 00:38:45 family reunion where both of those two are invited. Because that doesn't go on. Let me rephrase. They're both slow-summering men tormenti potentially. And what I'm trying to get at before you took my analogy a little too far could work. Well, don't throw it out there. No, no, no, good work. I appreciate you. Hold me accountable is that it's a position. I don't think I've seen DJ in
Starting point is 00:39:10 like what we were talking about last night about how like he's been checked out and I would love to see him. He to me feels like the captain of that pairing and I can see Moracawa having a great attitude out there and I would love to see DJ feed off of that and be like, you know what? This is cool. I do think that- I do think that- I can see Moracawa energizing DJ. That's what I'm getting.
Starting point is 00:39:30 That's what I'm getting. Yes. Yes. Yes. Because Moracawa is not a raw guy. He's just kind of a slow simmer and he's going to get his shit done and DJs the same way and you would think those two would feed off each other. It's not like Moracawa's trying to draw something out of DJ
Starting point is 00:39:45 that's not there. They're both just gonna quietly. Yeah, close to all. I hope that his good attitude is infectious for DJ. I'm like, oh man, this guy's like, you know. DJ's got the best attitude of anybody out there though. Like he never gets pissed or down himself. About Morkawa that you always hear and that you've seen
Starting point is 00:40:02 play out as he always takes care of his own business. And DJ doesn't have time for you if you he always takes care of his own business. And DJI doesn't have time for you if you're not taking care of your own business, right? He don't have time for Bryson screaming about stuff. He probably don't have time for speed all around if I stand there like Brooks. There's a lot of guys. Like trying to be a third string special teamer.
Starting point is 00:40:20 It, get the fuck out of here. There's a lot of guys that DJI just, I mean you guys have experience, they just don't have time for you. And Morkhow is not out of here. There's a lot of guys that DJ just I mean you guys have experienced it Just done a time for you. Yeah, and more cow is not one of them more cow will take care of his business He might ask DJ a question or whatever, but it's not he did DJ did a baby set him exactly like he did with Cooture, okay, oh my god come on I'm possibly cut the mic, you know, well the two best suitwares on the US team as well
Starting point is 00:40:46 I I still like more cows that are gonna have more cows hair haircuts so high and tight I mean it is it is great volume up top and just razor tight I can just take you guys the yeah just Bryson explaining anything to DJ. It's just oh, okay. That's cool man He told that story on the pod about when we played a practice round with Phil and Bryson. He was like, two holes in, I was like, I'm never doing this again. Like, I gotta walk on the other side of the ferry.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I can't listen to those guys talk golf. Like, that is not my tempo. Before we go farther, weather-wise, tomorrow, it looks like it's pretty docile in the morning and then it ramps up in the afternoon and then we've got some thunderstorms and showers rolling in evening time. So it could be it could be kind of diabolical four ball tomorrow afternoon. Were you pissed to see the Americans slowing down the golf course with the rainstorm this afternoon? Listen, I thought it was a little
Starting point is 00:41:40 chinsie. Yeah. Can. Can we talk about the supposed manipulation of whistling straights? Is there even like an ounce of it that we've seen in anyway? Listen, I haven't seen it. Let's just get ahead of this story. I don't think there's much you can change. Let's get ahead of this.
Starting point is 00:41:56 I think there's a distance profile that fits this course, but for several other reasons, this is not the best home course advantage for the US. That's fair. I think it's also like, it's not a, you know, everybody's like, oh, it's a links course and it feels like you're on an Irish links. It's not a links course.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I remember. It's a target course and there's one option for how to play every whole year talking about this the other day. And like, you know, it's very, it looks like a links course or it, you know, from a aesthetic and feeling perspective, but it's very technical yeah can I dispel something
Starting point is 00:42:27 somewhere I was discussing with my my strokes game cabal at lunch I think there's a massive misunderstanding on the visitor me another visitor home see we let him in or not oh it's right Yeah, later arriving later arriving at the bottom let me let Randy come on have a seat for me. I got to use the restroom Here hello big god. How is it how is the travel in? Careful with the look and Delta take care of you careful with the mic. Let's go Let's get you right here by watch the court What the court?
Starting point is 00:43:05 Delta could not have been better TC. I got an upgrade from Cincinnati to Detroit life was good today That's awesome. He's a he's a Delta guy living in a united hub. I can't wait to see how long that last As I was saying before Randy's a rudely interrupt to me by showing up here. I think I mean beer I would have one as well. On the top. You want a beer? Welcome to Herb Roller, by the way. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Is that the official name? It's a fish on the bottom. No, a fish on the bottom. So I think there's something to be said for the whole, the middle pins favor the Americans thing. Because we unpacked this at lunch. There's just a massive like misnomer, misunderstanding I've been going on between like that doesn't favor the
Starting point is 00:43:48 Americans that favors the team that's leading right and so everybody talks about Amadina part of the issue was okay the US had this massive lead and so what they did was you know tuck the pins and they had all these pins and corners and everything and so what I think that does is to basically, yeah, sorry, grab him my beer. I think what that does is basically set up to favor the better team on that day. And I think very clearly based on the way everything shook out, like the better team on that day
Starting point is 00:44:18 was Europe, right? And so what they did at Hazel team was a team that could pin their ears back and go at pins without inhibition. And so what they did at Hazel team was to put all the pins in the middle during singles. Yes, that's because they already had a massive lead and they were like protecting a lead. That doesn't favor the American. So it's not like we're going to go out there tomorrow and all the pins are going to be in
Starting point is 00:44:35 the middle and that meet like that would favor the worst team. That would allow the worst team. Just like very, the more you think about it, the more obvious it seems, right? Yeah. Like if the pins are in easier spots, then the differential between the good teams and the bad teams get smaller. And so the point is, like, if Europe was leading... It's situational. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:54 For hitting not into the moon. And was it having fighting against the... No, the mintments. Stroke's game is... Oh my God, I was gonna say, what are we talking about? Finally, the red game is... So what's up, nerd? So what's up, nerds? If we're in Paris and they put all the pins in the middle
Starting point is 00:45:08 during singles when the Europeans had a big lead, that would favor the Europeans. So I want to just dispel, pins in the middle of the greens is not an American thing. Yes, thank you for coming to my TED talk. Also, I don't think I've said stroke gains since I've been on this property. Well, no, don't let them.
Starting point is 00:45:23 You said so many times in all the pre-order. Oh, we had to talk about. What do you want to hear? All of Europe is just a bit of a part. I want to talk about part 10s and records. Spirit. Yeah. And experience and being in the cauldron.
Starting point is 00:45:38 And I believe we address that. I know you've got to talk. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. That ship sailed. How are we? How are we? What is setting? What a bucolic
Starting point is 00:45:47 Wisconsin Sunset. I arrived to. First time. What do you, what are your preconceived notions about Wistling's trade? And just to update you live show Audio's coming through that mic. So if you want to stay as close to that when you should can as well. But this is for the podcast. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:01 There's a lot of audio going on here. It was pretty hostile here before you had live. It's fantastic preconceived notions. I expected it to be. Yeah, it's just that all the pictures you see, right? It, it, honestly, the course that I've been to that I, that I associate with is Arcadia Bluffs and Michigan. It's very good. It's Arcadia on the other side of the lake. Yeah, but maybe a little bit more of a, of a big boy track. It's like, it's a, it's a, it's if Pete died in Arcadia on the other side of the lake. Yeah, but maybe a little bit more of a big boy track. It's like, it's if Pete died in Arcadia.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Yeah, but it sounds about right. Which is good. It's a good thing for whistling straights. Probably. But this is, I mean, love Arcadia catching straights out here. The weather is gorgeous, guys, to drive up. Like, this is as good as it gets. It was really shitty earlier, so. Yeah, you brought the good weather with you.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Oh, hey, should we get back in the pairings? Sure. Randy, who you got in the first match? Sorry, JT and spieth versus ROM and Sergi. Oh my gosh, that is such a, that's a tone setter. It's where we call that. A big tone setter. It's Team Taffes.
Starting point is 00:47:02 First team LF. The more topos, but your F peers would print out it. I I I hate got a hate small plates I've never this is a total total sidebar. I've never seen Randy more pissed We go to like hawkers or something like that was just like What are we just we're just like splitting all this stuff? So fucking stupid like it's gonna cost five times as much. I'm not gonna eat anything.
Starting point is 00:47:27 And do what you never go home full. No, it's awful. You gotta go through Taco Bell on the way home, just to feel full. Great on a date, right? Oh, yeah. If you're gonna go to one other person. Yeah, sorry.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Oh God, that's gonna be such a good matchup. These are all news to me. I haven't even heard of these parings before. I think, I think, these are all news to me i haven't even heard of these parings before uh... i think i think spieth and thomas boyed by the by the wascon tonight i i i feel like an american win a big-tone set up rumbus dj more cala vs hovelin and kasey
Starting point is 00:47:58 kasey fucking suck which we're taking all sorts of flak online you know you guys never mentioned mentioned KC or you're always Negative about him. Yeah, you know what read between the lines like his teammates don't like him So that's just just go with that. I don't need to List out a full, you know CV of what he's done or not done over the years, right? Let me let me let me turn it What do we think of this was calling and who'd you say? And DJ. What, what, that's interesting. Great. We think about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:28 I don't mean to put you on this by here. We have covered this one. So if we may, we may move on to the next one. Are we worried about more? I think euros have to win this one. I think, I think team euro gets this one. Keppka and Berger versus Lee Westwood and Matt Fitzpatrick. We've said this one, this one's a little bit like. Jacksonville State. If you know, FSU pays Jacksonville State to come in. Yeah. Jacksonville State comes in and gets plucky and beats him.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Yes. That's exactly it. Yeah. I think Europe takes that one. I really, yeah, that could get sideways on the Americans. What? I think. I think that's a friskyer than you think European team. Well my guy TC said Fitzpatrick was flushing it. Well, we did cover that. We did cover that.
Starting point is 00:49:13 That report from the ground. You know what that one reminds me of is when you're going to play the team, you don't get off the bus. You're playing grab ass on the bus. You know, Brooks and Burger, I think, we got this in the bag. And then you come out and you're down a couple, you know, a couple touchdowns after the first quarter. And you're like, you know, coach, coaches are furious. Could be tough. Could be, you know, they got it.
Starting point is 00:49:35 It's the first game of the season, too. So you don't have any reps on your belt. You can't go and burger can't, you know, can't come in lally gagging on that one. I'm not worried about that. How do you, how do you write that? Not worried about that one. How do you, how do you, how do you wrestle about your, what, how you think burgers going to do this week with this matchup? Because I think we talked about this last night,
Starting point is 00:49:52 the other night, there's too much, there's way too much emphasis placed on it. Guys, a rider cup record seems to be all about how he plays the first day or the first three matches. And everything gets thrown out. Like, the second session on Saturday and singles seem to get downplayed. If you played well, the first three sessions, right?
Starting point is 00:50:14 I mean, do you agree? Like, the importance of singles seems to get washed out based on whatever else happened or what the general theme has to do. Yeah, well, it's like, I mean, when Finaue just baptized Fleetwood in Paris, I was going to ask you guys, like at some point, we got all the Finaw people. Yeah, you can bring that up with TCA, I never happened.
Starting point is 00:50:33 The Finaw people, no, I would say like props to Finaw from a coursefit perspective, like being the one to absolutely send it, you know, show up. Get it. Yeah, but Finaw, like wouldn't you, you you know you guys are such big Fina guys like wouldn't you send Fina out first? At least a true tone setter a tone setter He I bet he you may go out first in the afternoon. I bet Bryson. It's the first shot in the afternoon I bet that's the the four ball pairing. They send out first I I will get to the afternoon. I'm in on Bryson, Laura.
Starting point is 00:51:05 I think it's gonna be a big Bryson. They might drop slime from the Nickelodeon golfers. Did you guys cover it? Rob Riggle by Gave by Slime. The Nickelodeon golfers. Arborga and Capka boys. We didn't really talk about this. We've heard some chatter.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Because am I the only one who thought they weren't boys? At one point, they were definitely not. And apparently that it's been buried or they moved on or whatnot or It was just a couple a couple of alpha You know one of the alpha Seminole's free shoes university burgers got any alpha. I think burgers Just I'm happy to be here man. Let's just I think burger's like a junkyard dog. No, I think I'm a golf course But I don't think he I don't think he has a big ego. He seems like a, he's just straight vibe. He's got more of like a chip on his shoulder guy
Starting point is 00:51:48 than he is like an ego guy. And that's the way. I think he, to your point, this is pretty, really showed up. But when you're talking about the DJ prototype, the DJ 2.0, I think it's burger. Would be a guy, I'd love to see those two together. I think the Brooks and Burger pairing is fun
Starting point is 00:52:04 and I'm out there. I'm intrigued. It's very excited to watch it, but I to see those two together. I think the Brooks and burger pairing is fun and I'm intrigued It's very excited to watch it, but I can see those those two also playing well practice round wise if they've been Has DJ and burger been in the same are they the other two in that one? It's a pheno and English or that one. I think Brooks and burger put together. It's a liberty national it is 2017 it's Liberty National. It was 2017. That's a simulation. My point earlier was about how? What's your point? They should play that shit on a, like, five iron golf and Manhattan, you know?
Starting point is 00:52:37 I was when I think it was a seawoo, tried to try to go Patrick Reed on the ground. No, honor Bon LaHiri also did the finger point down 14 to 2 on Saturday. It was so sick. Yeah, I was there. He was not till July, my friends. That was the last of us there. It was tough on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Apparently, that was the night. You're the UST got drunk on Saturday night and almost gave it away in Sunday singles. They celebrate on Saturday night. All right, let's get to the main event here Treadstone versus Rory so it's can't lay and chocolate versus Rory and Polter Randy who you got oh god, that's That's a really really good match. I Mean I'm just for golf
Starting point is 00:53:23 We've got it. we've got a member of of Rory's inner circle here on the payroll you know probably walking on Sean all day out there today Kyle has posted his picks to golf faster ready. What a good test. Let's go around the horn. I want to answer. I'm taking Polter and McElroy. Polter is
Starting point is 00:53:43 an absolute killer. I've put my eggs in this'm taking Polter and McElroy. Polter's an absolute killer. I've put my eggs in this basket that Polter's going to struggle. I think I am nervous about the Xander, can't lay pairing. I just think it's been assumed. And I just haven't seen a ton out of them when they've played together that has me super inspired.
Starting point is 00:53:59 I think that match is going to tell a lot about how this Ryder Cup is going to go. But I'm going to take Xander and can't lay. Cup is going to go, but I'm going to take Zander and Cantlay. This is weird to say, because Polters who he is and Rory's who he is, I think Cantlay is walking to that first tee with more swagger than either of those two guys. I'm not going to be limber. You know what I mean? Dude, he's quite swaggering.
Starting point is 00:54:18 He's pulled the more and more. Yeah, it's going to be just a... He has proved, he's pretty much proved, he's proved, he's proved, he's not there for him. Great, and he's not starting 10 under tomorrow, but still. I think he has, he's pretty much a cool operation. I'm not there for granted. He's not starting 10 under tomorrow, but still. I think he has, he's pretty much showed it. What are the pop holes? That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Does Polter get pops? I think Polter gets, I think he gets 16 and 5. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, I think, I think, I think Xander can, I will win. Polter is, we're always a big a big question mark going into this, right? Like, what are we gonna... What kind of energy level would we see? You got Frisky Roy, though, where it's like, there's not really the expectations, and
Starting point is 00:54:52 he's not in his own head. And there's something about match play with him in these situations, right? I think he can play much more carefree, fearless, uninhibited because he's not worrying about making the big mistake. You just go on the next hole. Yeah. Right. Everybody points back to 2016.
Starting point is 00:55:09 He was playing really well going to 2016. He had just won the net champion. Well, I guess it won a net championship at the time, but he had just won the championship. He had just won the FedEx Cup and he was the PGA towards ultimate prize he was playing great and he's not playing that great coming in and I think that Polter is Polter is not good right now like from teetagreen he's never been struck is not good he He's Yes, it's getting hard Randy. So do we have numbers on that Randy? It's one round It's one round maybe not even maybe 16 holes It's like 30 it's it's 25 shots. I'm so ready to just find out the answer to these questions tomorrow
Starting point is 00:55:59 I can't do any more of the who wants to win that match more Not Rory. I just, I think can't lay in chocolate, honestly. Big, I don't think that's the block you want to layer had on. I don't, stuff. Stefan Schoffley's number one. I think he forgot, you know. You guys see that be honest for Rory? He'd probably be like, dude, I'm a little tired.
Starting point is 00:56:21 You guys see that video, Stefan Schoffley sliding down the hill? That was delightful. The other day. Question for you. You think that is where we were in Hat tomorrow? No. No. I think he does.
Starting point is 00:56:34 They made him some hats? I can see him wearing a bean in his car. Just can't lay where I had. That's the question, because he has not been wearing one. I think can I might go with the hoodie thing. I like that. What better environment for Rory though where he can He doesn't have to he can get outside of himself for once
Starting point is 00:56:51 It's not the pressure of individual play at a major. I just feel like he's gonna put himself into this He can invest in the team. I know over the leader of the team. Yeah, right? You have a mom that have landed to pick up the best Rory here I'm gonna I will regret saying this, but we're going to go at all this, man. I, I'm not feeling Rory this week. Yeah, you definitely got that. I, I, his Rory fake juice. He's, he's juicer sauce.
Starting point is 00:57:22 He, he's sizzle no steak. He's, uh, his pressur even earlier this week. There's no low energy. It was weird. So he's juice. He's not sauce. I kind of like that. That means he's not trying to fire him up,
Starting point is 00:57:34 like fire himself up artificially early, but Rory can show up and get into it. Rory fed off the crowd last year, and the crowd, we were talking about this before you walked in, but like the crowd is not a factor at this point. The first tee is still going to be, I think there's going to be a let down. Guys are going to get all amped up on the first tee and we saw it a little bit the Soul Heimcup.
Starting point is 00:57:53 You get so amped on that first tee and then you get like five or six holes in and you can sustain that and then it's going to get quiet when you get off by the water there and like there's not like you're going to have to to look within or get a second or third wind to kind of buoy you. Otherwise, you're just gonna give a couple of those holes right back. But like the same way that Rory just like, love that environment, that got him hyped. It's just flat, it's gonna be flatter out there.
Starting point is 00:58:20 There's the amphitheaters around the greens are not really there, and they're set back, and it's gonna, I have a feeling that will play a factor I don't know if it's gonna actually affect the competition, but it's gonna feel different out there. I want to get on record with something We're talking to again our our hitter Karen stupples at Soulheim Cup who was talking about There's all these people All these people pumping up the crowd on the first tee and she was getting texts from unnamed players, unnamed sources.
Starting point is 00:58:49 She's like, hey, does nobody realize like every single one of these people who's pumped up the crowd, well, maybe not every single one, but very, very close, has pulled it left into those bunkers. So I just want to see if that holds true on the men's side too, because I think there's going to be a lot of pumping people up. You think so? I think that all needs, I think it's Bryson. I don't think there's anyone in the morning that's gonna open now.
Starting point is 00:59:07 I think JT's will. I think they will. I don't, I don't think they will. 100%. I don't, I don't, I don't know if growler's gonna allow that. It's LFGSEN. Come on. I think, I think there's so much pent up just like, oh, you don't, you think we don't care? You think we don't care. Look at how much we care. Like, they're gonna come out with that attitude and try to just Punch that narrative in the day. I thought that in 16 But like there was not many dudes that did the pump. I don't know if anyone did they do it in 16 Because I thought read was going to for sure and he did not decidedly did not any of the rounds
Starting point is 00:59:36 I don't remember any screaming for shots in 16. Did anyone do the pump up in 16? I don't know I do think JT is going to like lose his mind this week. I think he's gonna be just I think he's gonna play great, but also I think I mean, he's kind of there like spiritual leader, right? And I think that he's going to Kind of take on that the role that Rory took on and in at Hazel team on the on the European side And I think he's gonna be just a I think he's gonna be a maniac. He's the bog wand, the spiritual leader of the US. That's provocative. So I don't know what, I don't remember what I said for the actual picks, but I think
Starting point is 01:00:15 it'll probably, my bet would be US goes two and a half, one and a half in the morning and I have a feeling they go three, one in the afternoon. Let's talk about the afternoon quick. Yeah. So we've got on the bench for the US We've got Bryson and Harris and Schaeffler. Bryson Schaeffler's part. Sorry, Bryson, Scotty and then Harris and Fina. Fina. Yeah. So then who's sit? I think they're probably gonna I think JT and Speed are probably going probably no matter what and I think it's probably whoever's hotter between DJ Morecawa and Cantlay and Xander. So I got to I got to run to catch a bus, but my last point we were talking about today,
Starting point is 01:00:45 the point of having, in this place into what you're talking about right now, the point of having depth is not to evenly distribute all of your players, right? It's to find somebody that's hot early. You have more chances of finding somebody that's hot. It's a lottery ticket, that's hot early, and just ride in them.
Starting point is 01:01:01 And Europe's been way better at that. They, I mean, was Thomas Peters going to play five matches in 2016? No. Doubtful. Was Fleetwood and Moanaari going to play five in 18? Probably not. That's why I think it's interesting that they're sitting lowery. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Early, because I think he's a guy that sit him early and then you can ride him the next four, you know, four matches, right? Well, I'll push back a little on that because I think in 16 the US actually did a great job Yeah, like kept kept kept us at the first session back and then he played the final three and went three and one And they rode spieth and read and that occur was sneaky good in that I think he only actually played two matches, but I think he won two and a half points or something like that So I don't know I I I've talked myself into every post-cost scenario. All right, so you got to run. Thank you for joining us. Great to have you. Virtual Round of applause. Tell Rory my give
Starting point is 01:01:51 Rory my best and her roller. Tell him the McRib is back. I think we're probably getting getting close to wrapping this thing up. So looking at, so on the European, so you got Finau, Harris English on the American side, and then Shreffler and D-Shambo. And then on the European side, you've got Whisperger, Lowry, Hatton, and... Who's the last Fleetwood? And Fleetwood, to have it gone.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Yeah, so I was a little surprised. Talk about like being shocked to see people sit. Fleetwood sitting Fleetwood to have it gone. Yeah, I'm a little surprised. You talk about like being shocked to see people sit Fleetwood sitting in opening for some feels weird that feels like he's maybe doesn't have it But then again, maybe if it's if it's fleet well, you know if if podrick's trying to Test some guys out early Throw some things out and then like I've heard you know I've heard from people like podre is gonna do some some provocative shit I could believe that it could be a test or a well Fitzpatrick is hitting it too yeah who's the sponsor who's your
Starting point is 01:02:55 source on that TC exactly okay podrick made truly my god podrick made truly be keeping the horses in the back very well well-cooked. I don't know. I don't like anyone knows what Patrick's up to. His Patrick is a question mark, too. And you want to talk about Stroke's game to heart, Stroke's game motivation, all this thing. What a chip on a shoulder. You guys must've been cheering him.
Starting point is 01:03:16 He and Hovelin should play together. Always been in the kitchen. Neither room can chip. Carrying the chip around for quite a few years now, right? Since Hazel Tien that he didn't play nearly as much as he thought he was going to. Yeah, you know, it's been a long time since 2016. TC put him, try to put him in a body bag. Does anybody retire him, kick him off the team?
Starting point is 01:03:34 Yeah. Does anybody sit both matches? TC did apologize for that. Pat impossible. That's a quite I, I, I could see it happen. I was a little kids birthday party. I don't know. I think she's got a. I don't know. I think she's birthday's good.
Starting point is 01:03:46 I don't know. No, he's good. He's straight. Yeah. Hat and someone we're worried about. We'll find out. We're going to have a lot to react to. Maybe they want those guys.
Starting point is 01:03:55 It seems like those are the guys they're worried about. And maybe they want them playing their own ball to find it on day one. Potentially. Is it easier to find it when you're playing your own ball or playing all shots? Sometimes it's like the stranger, right? Like you're playing a ball that's not yours
Starting point is 01:04:10 and it's like, oh, shit, you know what? This is a place I haven't been in before. My theory shot the bot shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's the situation. My theory though is if you're off in four ball, if you're not making birdies in four ball,
Starting point is 01:04:22 you're so worthless. Whereas in four sums, like you, you, like, and hide it a little bit. You just got to be not horrible, right? You got to hit, hit fairways, hit greens, but you don't need to stuff it and make birdies. Whereas like, yeah, if you're not doing that in four ball, like, you're not really adding much value to your team. So it's Carson Bailey, like, giving them the motivation speech right now. I honestly refused to look further into that, because I don't want to know. It's, it's, it's, I heard Michael Jordan shot a million today at Pine Hills.
Starting point is 01:04:48 I didn't break 100. Thank you for that. I had to weigh in on things. Any other Pope Parie, let's go around the horn. Anything else anyone else can do? Well, Tiger gonna show up? I got a story. I got a story I heard today.
Starting point is 01:04:59 It kind of sent a little, gave a little, you know, the hairs of my arm were standing up a little bit about what went down. Some goose pimples in the European team room on Monday. So that that I may I may have the order of this wrong but I believe the story to be that the players hadn't seen that video yet of like how you know the number of players that are on the team. And so how everyone the team room everyone's getting like so jacked up and they play the video of like and do the team. And so, have everyone the team room, everyone's getting so jacked up. And then they play the video of, like, and do the numbers. And then they had the rookies stand up, like, one by one and say, like, all right, number 162, Burnt Feast Burger, whatever it is. And, like, the whole room was like, it rubs.
Starting point is 01:05:36 And those, it said Shane Lowry stood up, like, number whatever, 163, Shane Lowry stands up. He said, he looked nine feet tall in the room. The whole room just like, it rubs his own. He's like, he looked nine feet tall in the room. The whole room just like a rough ice on his electric And so I heard that story today and I that was a just an inspiring story on the European side. I Rew saying Last go around McGinley wouldn't wouldn't let him do the
Starting point is 01:06:00 You know, didn't want to give him any bolts in board material or post the video prior and I guess Padre is letting him throw it out there tomorrow morning and he's like it's one of the better videos We have ever done which from a European tour content person is very very cool to hear We'll see how that translates on the golf course, but I'm ready to get some burgers and hang and Once someone think Cody's got one thing. Oh, I got to tell a story. Okay, I forget where's the bib is somewhere around here You're wearing it. I think back I got it. Hold on so The media if you want wanna walk inside the ropes,
Starting point is 01:06:45 they give you a bib, like a red vest that is, it looks like, you look like a Walmart greeter, but it's in red. Target, yeah, it's pretty nice. It's hardware, that's it, that's what it is. Ask me where the pipe is. So people keep coming up to you, asking questions like, sir,
Starting point is 01:06:58 oh, do you know how to get to the merchandise tent? Like, I don't work here, but it's. It's just that you ask me. You don't look cool wearing it. And so I'm standing kind of by 10T. I'm following the JT, Speed, Sheffler, Bryson Group. And I'm away from the crowd kind of like facing the crowd
Starting point is 01:07:14 and there's a big crowd around behind 10T. And I hadn't talked to JT or anything yet. They're getting ready to tee off. And he just, I'm looking at my phone. I'm not even paying attention. And he just like, really loud, like loud just so that all the people around here, not just me here, just like, hey, man, really cool vest,
Starting point is 01:07:30 looks really cool. And I like, I realize that he's talking to me, I look up Bryson's fucking laughing at me. Like, that's a low point. I like, the whole crowd starts laughing at me. And I went to go respond and I had nothing. I felt like I was back at high school just getting stuffed into a locker. Salad shot 86. It was 88, my God. I just, it was, I've got so flush face, you just got,
Starting point is 01:07:55 it was a devastating blow. I haven't recovered yet. Bryson's going to be laughing at you. You're dreaming. It's pretty, but look it up. It's the Bryson just grinning at me. It was , it was, it was a good way to kick off the week. So love that. I mean, is it better? It's a better worse than the pink vest from a couple of years ago. This might be a little worse because it almost kind of bigger. Yeah, the vest was like. What all this looks like a fashion thing. Yeah, it almost looks like you chose to wear it. The pink vest was very much like the bib from elementary school to his head. This is like a vest like a target in place So but no, there's no way out to the target. Yeah, yes, yes, and a hardware. Yes. So anyways, we'll be there
Starting point is 01:08:32 It's the hourly workers exactly Son of a bitch Randy Well, anyways, we'll be on the first team at 6 a.m. tomorrow morning Screaming and yelling with everyone else there I'm sure and weird question that many many people have asked me for some reason I don't have an answer to but many people are like hey the gates open at six What time should I get there to get a seat in the grandstands? I've never been to one of these things I don't know. No idea. It's different for everyone probably and I don't know the answer that I don't that's a question for
Starting point is 01:09:03 The PJ of America or Ryder Cup. I don't I don't know the answer to that. I don't, that's a question for the PJ of America or Ryder Cup. I don't want to answer that. They're going to open, they're going to let people start going through it. Like they're going to get the opening thing in five, but you don't get to go through the gates. They're just going to screen you and then they kind of corral you into something.
Starting point is 01:09:18 And then, yeah. Shane Lowry will be there. Nine feet tall. Anyway. Absolutely on the size of this lad. Thank you everyone. They're going to brand you. I would say 530 would be safe. Yeah, that's probably good.
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