No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 482: Saturday Ryder Cup Recap

Episode Date: September 26, 2021

History is made as the US takes an 11-5 lead into Sunday singles. We recap the Saturday action at Whistling Straits, go through everyone's week thus far, recap the pairings, go through tomorrow's matc...hups, and a lot more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah! That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No-Lang Up Live Show slash podcast Saturday recap Ryder Cup Week, we are here to Eulogize the European team, Sali here, Big Randy is here, hello big, not taking the the bait, Sully. But good evening. TC is here, hello, TC.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Hello. Bonjour. Neil is here holding the microphone for TC today, which I don't know how long that's gonna last. Well, we only got four. So, hey guys, I'm sorry. We offered Randy a silent earlier, he didn't take it. We'll talk about that, DJ Pies here, hello DJ.
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Starting point is 00:02:42 we want to address before we get going? Randy wants to go first? No, why don't you go ahead? Tron why don't you guys issue a joint statement. I'll go first. I'll go first I want to apologize on behalf of Tony Fleetwood Tony Fleet Tommy Tommy Fleetwood for any slip. Yeah, I was thinking of Tony Fino Neil you know you guys have said He said hey, this happened this happened 15, 16 times in a row. It has, it has, I'm really, really disappointed. And the fact that the fact that Patrick sat Tommy this morning makes it even worse, because it means that
Starting point is 00:03:19 like not only did, like he should have come out and been that dude. His own captain didn't believe in him right so I'm gonna apologize for that But in return, I'd like for you guys to apologize for DJs for no We won't be doing that just just straight up we talked about DJ last night I think we all we mentioned this on the course DJ apologize for DJs becoming TC's Hillary's emails He's shoot he's Hillary's email He just he shoot he shoot he shoots it in every available Where's the servers DJ? Yeah, no, I know we're down 11 to fucking three heavy heavy will you apologize for DJ?
Starting point is 00:03:54 Will you apologize for DJ? Randy, what do you got what do you got to say for yourself? I'll apologize for something I want to apologize for all of English golf on the men's side. Wow. They are, you know, it's awful. It's bleak. It's bad. We've seen it now going on a quarter of a century. They just aren't very relevant and it's time that I I'm sorry for that. On behalf of all of men's English golf, I'm sorry to the world. Wow. The call is coming from inside the house.
Starting point is 00:04:28 This does seem like also Bengazi. We got to talk about Bengazi. It seems like a weird time to be, you know, to be getting on the European bandwagon this year, Randy. And we did, on the first teeth in this afternoon, US was up nine to three, DJ Neal and I got together. I had a real quick secret meeting and just said we're gonna go up to Randy. We're gonna offer him Amnesty right now.
Starting point is 00:04:49 He can come back in. A little silent. He has to. No, political entrapment. He has to decide right now. That's what it felt like. Right now. These guys wanted to wait till the show and I was like well he never do it in public.
Starting point is 00:04:59 But we offer him a chance to come out and we would never speak of it again. And what did you have to say? I said absolutely not. My guy T.C. did you have to say? I said, absolutely not. My guy T.C. here, I'm thickest thieves, rider, die. Italy. We're going to Italy. But more importantly, we're going to Spain too in 2023. Randy's, he's decided to go to trial.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Yeah, the evidence is so well. I'm running myself. I'm running myself. I just know what's taking the case. I don't want to spike the football out you big guy, but I mean it in a year of publicized bats. Horrible publicized bats. This stands alone. It's by far the worst one. It's bad. We're gonna turn the page, you know, 2022's right around the corner and we look forward to that. So I take it inside the ropes today, man. What would you see? Saturday is
Starting point is 00:05:44 always confusing to recap because now we just saw so much golf in like a 36 hour time period that I'm going to probably mess up for some four ball, whatever we saw. You see so many ups and downs between how guys are playing, but a picture has formulated through the end of today.
Starting point is 00:05:58 I really didn't hit the jackpot on what I tried to follow today. There was every time I caught up with a match, it started getting stinky and it's just a really difficult golf course to try to get around and whatnot. But you know what I was thinking,
Starting point is 00:06:08 especially after the morning session, that's about as like by the book, predictability, predictable nature of golf that matches could, like down to the match, like the team that you think should win it, won like every single one. There was a lot of, there's a great Ken Brockman on the Simpsons, Sid and opens the newscast and the little engine that nobody thought could, didn't.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Yeah. That was basically how this whole week has felt. DJ's been telling me how each session's going to end like exactly right. I just have not believed him one time yet. I mean, Europe won the afternoon session two to two. I mean, that's a huge enormous win for Europe. You have to think. What's the best case scenario for Europe tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:06:50 Nine out of 12. Well, what I was saying, well, retaining the cup. For sure. Retaining the USA. That's correct. Well, I was saying, is there might be, it feels to me like, if I was, you know, doing some betting, I don't know how,
Starting point is 00:07:03 I feel like the on paper match results are going to be a lot different than the, the eye test match results. You know, it feels like clinch early and then it's kind of like, oh yeah, who cares, you know, kind of the like, your place for your wicket be the page. Yeah, exactly. I got lost a match. I got to remember that at all. It's basically when, when DJ beat Sali in any of our videos and then DJ shut it down, shut the blown it up and it plays horrible. Yeah, don't waste any good ones, which from a gambling perspective, I'm actually like very, very keen to see how they build that in. That's interesting and everything because I think that's like, I think I was looking
Starting point is 00:07:35 at it earlier and US was favored pretty heavily in singles tomorrow. But you would think that Europe's gonna stack their guys early. It's gonna look like they're a little frisky early. Hey, maybe, you know, like five, five of the first seven matches and then, and man, by the time, you know, maybe they win four of those first seven and the by the time you get there, it's like, oh, okay, like we're fucked on the stretch because like we don't have any horses. I think their horses in the back. I think they're fucked no matter what because I don't know like how do you screw it up if you're striker like who's your weak horses you're putting out. I know sir truly like I don't know who they are.
Starting point is 00:08:14 It's the depth. I'm sure it might be spieth JT. Yeah, I don't know burger burger is probably played the worst I would say of anyone that I've seen. Harris is had good. I think Harris has been I'm watching up of him. I played the worst I would say of anyone that I've seen. Harry's a winning record. Harry's English. Harry's a strong. Harry's has had good, I think Harry's has been, I haven't watched enough of him, but like, it feels to me like, I think six six in singles
Starting point is 00:08:32 is almost like, I think that's fair. It's very optimistic for the Euros. I think, but it feels almost more like, all right, we're gonna get our, what do they need four points? We're gonna get our four points early, and then the rest is kind of, what I have. They need three and a half. All right, three and a half all right three and a half so I think they I think they want the record
Starting point is 00:08:48 I think they should go for 19 points That's eight to four. It's not very sporting and I Do a lot of jockeying tomorrow for the inaugural Nicholas Jacklyn. Does anybody want it? What's up with all the gimme the all the gimme taunting today exactly so I that's probably the biggest story tomorrow I'm all on see to myself, but About the sportsmanship award. It's funny that they never would have allowed it to be called the Jacqueline Nicholas award. No 98 interesting 98% chance Jack came up with this idea, right? Well, I think the guy that I've been a leader in the clubhouse right now is DJ because he hasn't done anything unsporting.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Yeah, and he's played really well. Yeah, I don't really know who he's going to be. The most sportsman thing you can do is just wrap up your matches like before you even get to the 16th. Exactly. Same as before. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I think that's very interesting. But they put a performance element in, like you have to play well.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Oh, really? Yeah, it's a third tenet Can they give it to stricker just running at just a real nice campaign? Can we address stricker? What can you do differently? What just really what would you have done differently? A total hats off. Yeah, you did he's I mean you set the singles pairings whatever and then your job is done on like 99% of it is already done. I would say like getting through team play up 11 to 5. He made the six captains picks. He may change it to six captains picks.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Love that move. He picked these six exact guys that I would like them to pick. Love that move. Put the the eight guys that I would want out there in ForSums. They dominated that. You did the right stuff for ball. He did some weird stuff, but whatever it worked, play fine.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Handle Bryson perfectly. That pairing with Scotty Schaeffler was great. Is it a weak European team? Yes, but like they ran the freaking playbook that I've been desperate for them to run, and they are going to run away with this thing. Talk a little bit about what the Bryson vibe on the ground has been like. So it was different from day to day. Yesterday Bryson was the showman,
Starting point is 00:10:45 showing his driver off to the crowd. And today Bryson did not have it. He was off the planet through the middle stretch, starting to hit it in the lake on seven. Hit it so, that's wayward. Hit it on number two on eight, and then hit it off the hospitality on nine, and then blew it way left on 10 again,
Starting point is 00:11:06 and then made the sickest up and he drained a 30 footer for a disgusting up and down. That's when they kind of turned them on, and that match chips to left two in the bunker. And that's Bryson was a four ball player only today. Like I worry about him in his single smash a little bit. He did not play great. I was saying that too.
Starting point is 00:11:22 He has, he circled as a guy. But he, but like that having him and Sheffler, they went one, oh, and one, I, I, I type out a tweet. I thought they went two and oh, but having like that as your do, like you are the two dudes. Here's exactly what you're going to play. You know exactly how to prepare. You're going to go do that and get us a point and a half.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Like that's a look at a luxury in these events. That's what you need. You need like two or three of those guys to win these events. And I mean, you don't even need them when you're going to win by any. And you have five of them. Yes. But maybe you could have had a major champion on the squad. Oh, it was a room for him. I was throwing out another, we can run this back tomorrow, but I was floating something to you guys that I think the US is going to be so dominant in years coming. They should raffle off the 12th spot for charity. You're such a bag. I think kind of like your fill thing, they should have a mug because they're going to win anyways.
Starting point is 00:12:07 They should raise some money for charity by raffling off that 12 spot. That's a good idea, but you're so underestimating what's in the pipeline for Europe. We've talked about this. That Ludwig guy used to name you not even know. He's Swedish and he's coming. Porter had a great question.
Starting point is 00:12:21 How many of you should he come? And the Hogarth twins, of course. How many of us could go out in singles tomorrow and the US still win? That's a really good question. I think everybody in the bus throw six of us out there depending on the match Do you well you're talking about Bryson do Do you use Send Bryson? You got to think that parings haven't come in quite yet. I'm sure there would be in the next few minutes here. But you got to think they're going to send Ram or Sergio out first.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I think you're, you're, has got a front load it. Just like they should. Yeah, yeah, of course. No, I mean, specifically front loading. I got to think it's Ram or Sergio first. Yeah, probably those two. Do you almost throw Bryson out there as like hype everybody up and also like if he beats if he loses the ROM like anybody's probably gonna lose the ROM.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Here's what I think is actually gonna happen. I think they're ROM is they're gonna try to avoid DJ with ROM and they're gonna put him second and then the US is gonna do the same thing though. They're gonna they're gonna line up second. We were talking about that today like who do you put? Like, who's the US guy right now? And on paper, it does seem like DJ, but then whoever was, I think maybe Cody was saying,
Starting point is 00:13:30 like DJ is also set up. I mean, he's been impeccable this week, but he also is kind of set up for a trap. One of those like DGAS. He's gonna be tired. Kind of trap. Honestly, he said can't lay out. I love that.
Starting point is 00:13:40 The year showdown. I love can't lay. You know, little chip. Xander on the shoulder. Like let's see. Let's let them go go first. Honestly, I think the can't lay one player of the year. I know.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And that's what I'm saying. Can't lay versus Ram. Yeah, Ram has a chip on his arms. Yeah, but we're talking about who is the US and out. Like can't lay's not the one with the chip on his shoulder. I know, but I'm saying I'd like to see the match up because I think that that would be a showdown as like a like a right. they should put the player of the year on the line for tomorrow. That'd be intriguing. And that might get Cantlay the Nicholas Jacqueline sportsmanship.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Well, other if he's willing to to give that up if he loses. But so like where I come out on this is honestly I don't care who goes against Ram as as long as it's not like dj because how many guys i think i literally think any of the twelve guys in the u.s. team can be wrong tomorrow underdogs all of them will be underdogs but can be them and there's like six guys on Europe that i truly don't think can be dj so i'd rather get the full i don't know if it was randy or dj said it coming up back to the rv but
Starting point is 00:14:44 uh... they should send Rory out first. Just, you know what, Rory? You need to like, step this shit up. And like, are you gonna, you know, let's, let's, like, that might be a way to get him jacked up. I hated it when you said that at first, but I love it now. Sacrificial lamb.
Starting point is 00:14:59 W-w-w-w-w-w. Just, just put him up on the altar and say like, here's our Sacrificial lamb. Yeah, almost comes to a a point of light and he can save himself if he wants to save himself. He had him with his driver. Yeah, put it, hang it, hang him out in front, you know, like they don't win unless, unless Rory plays good tomorrow, you know, they'll stop. They're not going to win. Well, but there, if I'm thinking if I'm trying to win, I forced Rory to take his hat off and I sent him out first. I think it does. I just before you move on too quickly
Starting point is 00:15:34 here. Where is this bulletin board here that we're talking to? You just gave it to him. What do we do with it? I hope I hope Padrex listening. I would I would love to read whatever the hell houses up there this way. I hope they all slaprex listening I would I would up on the wall. I would love to read whatever the hell else is up There's a lot of they all slap it on their way out of the team tomorrow. I think for Roy I for me I know this is sports talk radio shit and but I always come back to it It was the the J.B. Fitzgerald quote right when Roy was struggling. I forget where it was And he finally just was like yo, you're Rory fucking McElroy. Like go go go. Burk down. Go be that guy.
Starting point is 00:16:06 And he just hasn't been in years and years and that's well-warned. So the quote is you're Rory McElroy with the fuck are you doing? Yes. And it's still, I think that's a standing question. Still, and I think Senator Mell first is almost like, hey man, either you're in it or you're going to be very publicly disinterested and just kind of hung out to dry, right? I got it to almost like a cold water just just keep throwing it on
Starting point is 00:16:31 Someone needs to lock him lock him in his room the night and force him to watch highlights from the Volhol PGA just like old Rory like just try to try to pump some type of swag into it because what's scary is if it's gone. That would that sucks. If Rory knows it's gone because that sucks because that's a really much fun. One Rory stinks, which I mean, he made one birdie today in four ball. So look at what two birdies all week. He had one eagle. I'm sorry, he birdied number 10 as well.
Starting point is 00:17:00 He made, he made two birdie, uh, three birdies. Who told me he made no birdie stand? That was a lot. He made three made two Bert and I had three birdies who told me he made no birdies dead That was a lot he made three just but like from a technical perspective his wedges suck They're fucking terrible I'm just I'm like I'm so over him like he DJ was talking about earlier Roy just he needs to take a he needs to take a year off. He needs to take a gap year He needs to take a sabbatical whatever
Starting point is 00:17:22 Gathered one of him was on Twitter before this and you know I can't believe all the stick that Roy's getting no like honestly Roy's Heavy is the head that wears the crown Roy's made 5600 $700 million playing golf at this point Maybe a little bit less than that, but I think with his investments probably pretty close to that He's a business man. Yeah, and it's like hey man like you know what like This is this is part of the territory. This is what comes with it and you're right in your
Starting point is 00:17:47 prime and you're acting like a little bitch. Hell yeah TC let's run through a wall. Thank you for that Randy. I think more than anything at least for me it's I think I've almost moved past like the anger stage like I've been angry for the last couple of years where I'm not, I don't know which one comes first anger depression. I think anger is first and then depression. And I'm not an accept. I'm not, I will not accept.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Angers like the start of the. Yeah. So I think that was a couple of years ago. That's what I'm saying. I'm just in a full like depressive episode right now. It sucks, man. Sucks to watch. We were walking off.
Starting point is 00:18:21 We saw Damon Hack getting ready to go do stuff. And I mean, he's just, he's down. He's like, man I just he might be the most positive person. I think I was a bad guy. He's like, God, it's just watch your Rory man. Just like puts me in a bad mood. Exactly right. I'm in ignore mode. I haven't I haven't watched him play any golf this week. Yeah, he's muted. I mean, I just it's I'm a quarter and I were talking about like the polarizing difference of our Ryder Cup weeks, like 2016, it was all Rory, like he made the whole week fun for all the fans, all the people that, all the media were out like following him for the entirety of the
Starting point is 00:18:54 week, and he's just a total non-factor now. And his golf isn't that much, it's not like he's bad, right? He's just mediocre. Like, that's what the frustrating part is, right? And like, are we headed for like three years of speed drop off like we had from speed? Like non-rider cut player, but I think the difference and this is where I just don't know what he's doing Well enough like behind the scenes, but Speed was in almost like rebuild mode, right? Like he was changing stuff and I guess I just don't have a good sense of
Starting point is 00:19:22 Is Roy doing that like it almost seems like Roy stuck in, just that kind of middle ground, where he's not necessarily rebuilding, he's not like changing a bunch of stuff. I guess he was working with other swing coaches and stuff, but it's just, yeah, I don't know. What do you guys think was Jason Speed? Like last year, and he was like,
Starting point is 00:19:38 okay, I need to take some time off and get back to being myself, and then just hasn't really, I'm like, I think with Speed though, I always got, like I always got the sense that I get, it pisses, like it pisses, it's a spieth off the most.
Starting point is 00:19:50 That he was playing. Yeah, and you just don't, I don't sense that same feeling from Rory, which might not be fair, but that's just my outside perception. That's where, like I get to it and yeah, he won the Wells Fargo this year, but you're looking at one first, one third, and four miscuts this year.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Five top 10s in 21 events, like, that's not Rory, right? That's not, you know, that's not somebody, especially on PGA tour courses. Can we talk about, can we lead with maybe not lead, we're 20 minutes in here, but Shane Lowry. Oh, yeah, I'm so glad they sat in this. Yeah, can we talk about him only going to play three matches this week is that's mismanagement. That's straight up, that's bad, bad decision making.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I mean, that, of course, this is, we're aware. This is all kind of easy to say after the fact, but no Lowry today in the morning, no Sergio yesterday for a session. It's just like, dude, it's very clear where the depth is on these two teams. And this whole like, yeah, I know these guys just, you know, they're not going to be able to go all five. So we got to make sure we get them the rest where they need it. It's like, you can't do that.
Starting point is 00:20:56 You're not good enough to do that. Yeah. I would like to nominate Lowry for the DJ and we're talking about it at the top bloke award. The Chubby Chandler Memorial, top bloke award. The Chubby Chandler Memorial. Top bloke. He's not dead. Chubby Chandler's not dead. Okay. Good point. Sorry. Sorry, Chubby.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Can I, can I, can I pick a whole memorial? Can I pick a hole in your, in your theory here, though? Well, because, I know what you're going to say. What am I going to say? Well, you're going to say, like these guys do need rest. I mean, like Sergio's older Lowry is, I don't know if he's good to go, you know, 72 holes over two days, but I think that's just the workhorse. It's just like a piece of workhorse. It's a fundamental issue with the team, though. It is, but the only I don't know what the answer is, I guess. The only route to winning was like a couple of those dudes getting a couple reps out there. Like you needed the Rafa Cabrera Bayo go undefeated guy that you didn't know was going to go undefeated. And you weren't going
Starting point is 00:21:44 to get that by like playing, you know, some of their weaker players one time in team golf and then send them out in singles, right? You needed like some dudes to get hot and it just didn't materialize, right? So you could have played all of the big guns more and sat, you know, Westwood more, Westwood was going to lose his singles match. Then if that was the case, so and so it's probably lose his singles match as well and you have no shot at winning also. I agree with that. I think the flagrant was this morning that lorry and did he play great yesterday?
Starting point is 00:22:12 You saw the shit that happened though. He was with Rory which is like no no I'm not even saying that like that has to be such bad energy right now from from Rory. Like you saw him with Hatton who's at least fiery and into it Like if there's a I just before the week if you look at the European team and like you have to try to identify who might Step up and and get you three and a half points in four matches like Lowry was a guy that I would ID as Like there's a realm of possibility there I'm gonna push back because he made one birdie
Starting point is 00:22:45 yesterday in Fort Ball. Well, he was playing with the corpse. I don't understand the- That's to be on Saturday. I don't understand the singles argument of like, if you sit him today, he's deaf, like somebody's definitely gonna lose in singles then. It's like, Olis and they sat,
Starting point is 00:22:58 they sat him all day Friday, or all day Saturday, I'm talking France and he won in singles. 99, like you had the guys that didn't play until singles right and they were just like freaking. You're not gonna sit them all the time but like there's not much of an in between. There's not a ton of precedent. I see what you're saying. I'll push back though is that like Fitzpatrick and Westwood and those go and send them back out. They're not an ultimate. Like some of those 99 guys are like anonymous non PGA tour
Starting point is 00:23:23 playing like those guys were like in about their head. Like these guys are all world class players, right? And they've played legitimately. I mean, they've played rider cups though. Like they've played, they've played moments and stuff. But DJ, DJ are not going to be scared out there. Scared, but like you, like you needed to like play your way into something, right?
Starting point is 00:23:40 Or else you're going to get to, you're are going to be underdog going into singles. Yeah. And then if you try to out a bunch of dudes that haven't haven't taken it's like you got to put your best team out each session I think and because what especially when you are the underdog and because DJ was saying earlier is like all right Like you know what it would just it would have been way too bad for Sunday singles if we would have started these guys And they're gonna be exhausted and you know and now we're down fucking 11 to 11 to 5 like yeah like six go it in just yeah but but you know what we're set up right for singles these guys are well rested might be
Starting point is 00:24:12 exhausted in the fourth quarter but I'd like to see you maybe just having a chance in the for like somebody said something about like it's like it's like it's like it's like you're guy out who gets in felt real yeah and then all right close back in your down 20 we're down 16 going like two minutes left. It's like who fucking cares? I get it, but I think it's more of a, this was more of a gamble. Like you had to roll the dice.
Starting point is 00:24:34 I see what you mean. It's kind of just like it, I mean, cutting to the heart of it, like it's just kind of like choose which way you want to lose, basically. Choose what you want to die. I just felt like it's so much, it's worse than it needed to be, right?
Starting point is 00:24:46 I think he's, A, he sent out the same exact, like, all right, he sent, like, let's go match my match. He sent, ramen Garcia out first thing this morning against Keppkin and Berger, which I love that from striker, basically saying, hey, we're not going to send out our best team. We're going to send out two guys that can kind of, like, that can give us our best. They're world class players, but it's not even our A team. It's going to send out two guys that can kind of like that can give us our best their their world class players, but it's not even our 18. It's our weakest force. We know that they're going to send out their 18. So that was a good move from striker. And then Johnson Morecala versus Casey and Hatton, whatever. I mean, I don't think anybody's beating
Starting point is 00:25:20 Johnson Morecala. That was Kassimor, Johnson, more cala have been like the the best to some. Yeah, play until I can't play. And then Hovland and Whisperger, I like like I didn't mind that one. Um, and then Westwood, like, but sending Westwood Fitzpatrick back out this morning after
Starting point is 00:25:38 watching them yesterday, like, Westwood can't hit along like, he can't even deny it. That's what you're supposed to do. You're Lee Westwood. Westwood is't hit along, like he can't even deny it. That's what you're supposed to do. You're Lee Westwood. Westwood is the oldest looking person of all of the captains included on the European Ryder Cup team.
Starting point is 00:25:53 It's just, I mean, I don't know, I was got some miles on it too. All this is, again, it's kind of- It's kind of- It's kind of choose your own adventure and decide which way is the least, is the least shitty basically. Yeah, it's like, but you're in Podrick's slight defense. It's not a good spot to be in when you have to fucking sit Rory for the first time ever.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Right? And that's like, that's what you walk away as is like, I think this gives us our best option to come back from this massive deficit. It's just it, like that's an indictment of Rory, right? It is, but it's also like a, like that's a bat. It's just a bad spot for him to be. Like that just is also indicative of like a lot of bad play from a lot of guys you need to play with. You know what's a very almost sad and desperate move
Starting point is 00:26:38 is sending them out in the final spot as if it's the last, the last four ball of Medina as in like, let's recapture this like oh last one good shot and he's like this is you're about to go on three like like westwood and Fitzpatrick this morning that that's where I get where it's like all right Fleetwood sat yesterday morning too can we not put like Fleetwood and Fitzpatrick together like less like what's what I obviously looks fucking terrible like but you know Is he just trying to is he just trying to and then you know and then don't even get me started on the Pulitzer stuff Like we haven't gotten the Pulitzer stuff yet
Starting point is 00:27:15 Like just happens to him with the Ryder Cup man. He just you know I'm still talking about the morning and then and then you get to the afternoon and I would have I just wish they would have Span years and what I would have done is to to Rory I would have I would have put Rory with it with an alpha and I would have said to Rory Hey, you know what you're the B player in this group? We're gonna put you with ROM or Sergio. I don't know why I think the only guy that could have sparked Rory from whatever the fuck is going on is Sergio It's like hey out there with Sergio as just. He seems like the only guy in that team that would be like, hey man, I've seen who you are.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I know who you are. You're the kid and you need to go out there and be the kid. And Sergio is almost like a, you know. Because you could have put anybody with ROM out there. ROM made six, six birdies I think. That team made six birdies. I think ROM Like, or that, that team made six birdies. I think ROM made all six of them. I think, like, think about it.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Sergio did not make a birdie before. Like, you could have, you could have said anybody out with ROM. Why waste Sergio? Sergio's a little deceiving in this. He was good in ForSums. He was good playing like a role to like T.F. ROM but he's on his own ball today.
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Starting point is 00:29:39 On let's let's let's I'm gonna flip over to the US side a little bit because there's a lot of really freaking good play There's a lot of good stuff to talk about. A lot of good stuff to talk about. Let's take the vibe up. Let's take it to 150 in here. How long have we been doing that? So we've talked about, I think maybe just set the table for this, we've talked about a lot of,
Starting point is 00:29:53 as is very fun to do at RyderCups, a lot of they could have done this, they should have done this, blah, blah, blah, blah. This is so clearly more about the US playing good than it is about your playing bad,? Yeah, oh yeah, like so although So just on its terrible job and we're hearing things that there's a lot of backbiting among the assistant captains and like Things aren't good over there and that's more fun to talk about Wait, wait, wait, I heard for months and months leading up to this that it's all about the bond that Europe has right?
Starting point is 00:30:22 That's just such a better team. He's escued that for big data. And apparently the big data is letting him down. As well, we're hearing. Yeah, maybe he doesn't understand the big data. It was funny walking, we were walking back to the car, or we walked back to the RV and kind of came across like one of the bridges and looked back into one of the kind of like the portable trailers
Starting point is 00:30:40 is basically like looks like we're herrington's in there with his team. And it almost looked like a really sad Like money ball like it was Padrik standing in there and like through the window you just see like a bunch of guys with computers And you can just picture and be like yo In the Shane Loury's like like the manager and he's having a beer in the corner. He was like art. How? Yeah, just I could see Patrick walk it in there. Just like guys
Starting point is 00:31:06 Westwood Fitzpatrick. What the hell are you talking about? What you told me that was what inputs do you have told me that was good? Anyway, let's talk about the US. This I want to go back to the the biggest incident of the day probably from this morning the Keppka burger rom Sergio match In For some's burger sprays one right. That she has done quite a decent amount actually. I didn't, did you guys get to watch this playout on TV? You watched the whole thing, it was fascinating.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I think it was, I was locked in. It was great. Neil was talking about the RV laws in California for a good bit, but we didn't get to hear a lot of the conversations. No, I wasn't. Cody. I was talking about the RV laws in California for a good bit, but we didn't get to hear a lot of the conversation. No, it wasn't. Cody. I was talking about the RV laws.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Neil was talking about where you can, where you can and can park an RV in Southern California for a while. We couldn't hear a lot of the conversation. I 100% truth. Totally stole the conversation. Couldn't hear any sort of reenouncers going on. The announcers are talking over the one-course audio. Absolutely. Why didn't you say something? because it would have been rude I thought it'd be nicer to air you at all hold on a second we had fucking
Starting point is 00:32:09 guest in here and you guys are fucking ignoring don't throw them on oh whoa that's something whoa oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh That reminds me of stop that reminds me of Brooks calling out the rules official I thought that was classless for him to see didn't get the ruling wanted which is fine And then he says if I break my fucking wrist I'm coming to find you. I don't like that. I thought that was said It's on you. No, I'm coming. You didn't physically But still it's like I don't think that that you didn't get the ruling you wanted cool like I that guy has no ability to like tee you up or like the that's that's not I'm not cool with that I didn't like that it was they were pretty disrespectful to the rules official for and I didn't see it but I went up an ass bones about it and he was like yeah this was kind of ridiculous like based on where
Starting point is 00:32:57 the divot was Brooks was exactly right and what did it for me was burger being like so unbelievably convinced. Like he's like, oh, this is a hundred percent. Like it came down to the rules official not understanding. Burger with Stephen Jackson. Yes, pretty much. Burger will go into that foxhole with you. It came down to the official not understanding club paths and like where divots actually go. Like where a club is actually going to go. That was such a such a weird situation where you have the guy who's the player and the guy who's not a player. Yes, describing like what's about to happen. Sir, you have the players like no, no, no, I don't think that's what, I don't think that's it. He's like, no, I think I have a pretty good idea of what it's gonna do, man.
Starting point is 00:33:37 And I get that, of course, you can, you can fudge that and of course you can, you can try to get every inch, but like, he hit exactly where he said he was gonna hit Like you saw how the divot and the in the super slow-mo he hit the ball The divot started the divot stopped when he went through the gap and then the divot started again when he hit the thing that he said He wasn't gonna hit at the same time. I don't think it was gonna like it's not like there's a break his borders It's not like it was a little over. I know that before it hits it. It could have been any any Lie in general, I think I thought Sergio's role in it was very interesting. My biggest takeaway was like, where were the assistant captain? Yes, that's a great call. Right. Like, like, what, like, isn't this where they're
Starting point is 00:34:17 supposed to step in? Take their player out of the heat of the situation. Cody was saying that earlier and saying, like, I don't think they can. They they can. They can't. Strikers, the only one that can like give advice. So like not even advice is trying to understand like, all right, what the hell's going on here? Because Brooks got so heated, I was shocked that Brooks had a good shot after that. Great shot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:37 It was great shot. They're all headed to Brooks. I want to clarify something. I had no issue with like Brooks calling in more. I want to talk to somebody else. I wanna speak to a red coat, Delta, like I'm escalating here. That's all good.
Starting point is 00:34:51 And then the day though, didn't get the rule you wanted. I just don't think, like we were talking about it out there today. You said something that stuck out to me. There are like tens of thousands of people out there and they've all made this like agreement that like, oh, we're not gonna like Yeah, when the guy's hitting, you know, we're like, which wild at the Ryder Cup like there. Yeah, it's so jammed And it's just weird to stop every now and again and think when everybody gets totally silent like man
Starting point is 00:35:16 Not one of these people like one of these guys It's gonna just like scream in the back That's crazy like already drunk and it's dead silent and that's awesome. But I feel like when the disrespected like I just don't like what the players are setting that as like well no I'm you know I'm just going to big time the rule the no name rules official like that just. Shots of Bryson that's kind of his block. It was tough.
Starting point is 00:35:38 It was tough. I left that left a sour taste in my mouth a little bit. They're up into that point I was fine with and I agree with you that might not have been the right ruling but he made the ruling. I think he was right and I think they were they're both assholes to the rules. Coach, that's that's how I feel. That's the fair take I think which I hate to say. I think Brooks is out of the running for the Nicholas Jack. Oh, well, who's going to win this? Yeah. All right. So we're completely open. So we're down to 23 23 23 man race. I don't I don't think JT is gonna win it. I don't think he is either
Starting point is 00:36:07 The rest of bombs on live TV. Yeah, just you know, just kind of big like like for Victor, Havlan of all people to get Kind of hot under the collar What a cobbler I mean this morning. I didn't see much of this. I saw it. saw it so he missed what happened with the the gimme gate What what I only saw screenshots? It was the classic I'm worried about that I think Duffner invented that one the classic like you know you you make the pot wait for a second
Starting point is 00:36:36 You kind of bench. Yeah, if it's a gimme like all right then like if you have to put it It should be a something that you're gonna make a hundred% of the time. Yeah. Sometimes it's disrespectful. From what I saw, it didn't look disrespectful. On a windy day, on Saturday, the Ryder Cup, it was like, I think we're some of what your angst stems from was. I think hovelin missed a short putt, and then JT was walking off the green clapping, and a lot of people can maybe I just missed it. A lot of people were
Starting point is 00:37:09 Saying he's clapping and hovelins face and like I don't think that was the case I'm just like slapping the green. I like like JT off the course I just I can't do it. I just don't like the way. I don't like the way It's not even the fact that he's doing this stuff. I'm totally fine with it. So he does it I just think he looks like a I see just looks like a dick This is the definition to me of if you like him and he's on your team If you like that guy, that's my dude If he's not you like fuck what a dick. Yeah, I go back to everything I said in the preview in terms of like you need like dudes that are willing to just like look like idiots and
Starting point is 00:37:40 Sell out to the team and do whatever it takes to win TZ's these I'm good that. And that's JT. Like, I'm all in for all of that. Yeah. He's Steve O'Jacowski from Duke. He's JJ Redic, all right? He's got the game. He's not that cool.
Starting point is 00:37:54 He's not that cool. I think JJ Redic was not cool. No, we were talking about the, I'm way out of my deck here. He is cool now. He is cool now. And Duke, he was not. The Duke guys have just kind of slowly become like more and more, as I understand it from afar, seem like they've just come Duke guys have just kind of slowly become like more more as I
Starting point is 00:38:06 Understand it from afar seem like they've just come you have more and more of a character since JJ Rettich Yeah, I think that's fair. Right. I think that's fair. We do have pairings gentlemen We were vamping filibuster long enough First out for the European team Is Brori McElroy game is rory mackerel hey
Starting point is 00:38:26 god that's the most excited that's sweet he's going up against zander shuffling i like that that's a match he can some fun match up yeah he can win those are two guys that have to get blown out well i think xander needs to keep proving himself he's on the right he's on the right path right now that's really second out on the european side shane lowery against patrick can't lay americans are fortified really
Starting point is 00:38:58 out third this freaking love how this shook out for the united states john rom up against Harrison Grayson from the USA. Scotty Sheffler. Oh, that's good. That's awesome. Scottie's in a big spot.
Starting point is 00:39:12 That's one verse 12. Scottie can beat him. He was the last man on the team probably. That is so perfect. And actually Scottie, I'd like talking about the US today. Scottie put it really, really well down the stretch. The chip shot he hit on 16 was unbelievable. We can get back to that.
Starting point is 00:39:29 We'll get there. We're not in the game. I don't like that matchup. I think that's fun. I think that's fun from the American side. You got to love underdog stories. Oh my God, in match four. Sergio Garcia up against.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Dustin, the big golfer. Oh, I knew that. Hell yeah. Garcia up against Dustin film Nichols the big golf Match five. Oh my goodness. This guy these two were included a lot of So that's Bryson's gonna win the clinching point. He very well Wow, you're a bad guy. You're these two were included a lot of prop bets together There a lot of people asking you know who's gonna be the best of this class Who's gonna be the best of this class. Who's gonna be the best of this class? Holland That's why matchup. That's awesome. I was hoping calling on would play Ram, but I'll take this match six
Starting point is 00:40:14 Dustin Johnson up against Paul Casey. That's a good match Okay, DJ's gonna be tired. That's Casey could get that one. It's about to be bleak match seven Brooks Keppka against Burnt Veece Burger. That's gonna be tough for guys. You know what Burnt, I will help you guys gonna take that personal. Burnt has been better than I thought it was gonna be. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Thank you. That's big of you. You thought you'd do worse than Owen too? Nobody's left. He's like better than Owen too. He's like better than Owen too. He's been alive Owen too, a frisky oh and two. I don't know if you want to audit that.
Starting point is 00:40:48 I'm sorely. But you're saying this stuff, but you're also admitting that you haven't actually watched Bern-Hit any golf shots because you've been with other groups a lot. Well, he didn't really threaten. Like, he didn't, where the, it's the eye test. It's not all in the scorecard. It's the eye test. It's tough that shot
Starting point is 00:41:05 He hit into 18 yesterday in the afternoon. That was a tough. That was a morning Keep it all for sure Next up Tony Fee now against Ian Polter hell yeah, got hope he takes a beat just as a A tone said if he doesn't puts his head on a spike. Yeah, if he doesn't Maybe you guys will think about apologizing I'm gonna apologize in advance for not apologizing Tone might be looking at one and nine out JT versus Teryl Hatton Firey match up there. I love it. That could be a fist fight
Starting point is 00:41:41 That's exciting and I am let it be known Hatton would beat his ass. Who's it? Who's happening? They's who's happening on BBC today I was on the radio they call them a chubby little chubby little lad who's the college golf equivalent of hat or college basketball oh god give me a second I'm gonna need a collid L.a. mean that's actually the past. The past. The past. The past. The past. The past.
Starting point is 00:42:09 The past. The past. The past. The past. The past. The past. The past. The past.
Starting point is 00:42:17 The past. The past. The past. The past. The past. The past. The past. The past. The past. The past. The past. The past. You need to take back what you said about English golf because hair is English. That's that's true I apologize for the call of English golf except for hair singlish and of course can do and Richard bland 11th match out Jordan
Starting point is 00:42:32 Spief against Tommy Fleetwood. Do you think they're even gonna tee off? God what a match. That's a good match. That's a real last match out Daniel burger against Matt Fitzpatrick That's unreal last match out Daniel burger against Matt Fitzpatrick horses are not in the back It's anybody even like who want guys who won we've been That sucks for burger because he's like the first one to celebrate I know he's got to play the most golf He might just quit they should bump up tee times and send him off both sides tomorrow. Let's watch some NFL For TV purposes. That's a. Let's watch some NFL. Yeah, I like that. For TV purposes. That's a weird, let's get some red zone going. I'm gonna have to hurt roller.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Sure, there's numbers, you know, numbers out there, but you're basically playing for the most historic comeback of all time. And I don't know about putting fits in the. Very into that. Probably cool. You got to put it somewhere. I thought you made a good point about Polter.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Yeah, put Polter there. And if it turns it ever comes to it, then yeah, maybe he'll conjure something I'm into that JT hat matchup. There's a lot of great matches there. That one's beaten flea wood is really fun Hovelin more cow was fun. That's awesome. Yeah, who's it Bryson and who rom? Bryson surgery. Yeah, that's chef learn rom chef learn rom Rory and Zander's fun. Yeah, that's gonna be tough to pick Actually, why should I get morning and it was we're saying like I was saying I can't imagine two people
Starting point is 00:43:51 This similar is bright as Sergio and Brooks and then you actually said no, I think they're actually really similar and I thought about it for a second I said yeah, actually they are like I don't think they run in the same circle But I think they have a lot of the same mentality. Like they're very, like yeah. But I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think Sergio is exactly the kind of guy, like, hopefully tomorrow,
Starting point is 00:44:12 what I don't wanna see is this whole thing with, with Bryson, this whole, like, you know, people like him thing, sticking. Because it's, it's, it's, it's, it's over. I don't know, we've seen it. It's the, it's the read thing. Yeah, like people are willing to suspend for a week and then you get back on the PJ tour and you'd be so jarring for like, you gotta remember also a lot of this not all of it, but a lot of it is like the rider cup brings out a lot of
Starting point is 00:44:34 Super casual golf fans, right? And they're not gonna watch another tournament until the masters and we're gonna get to Tori Pines and You know Bryson's gonna punch a fan in the face or something and like well the world will be back to normal. I have no fear on that one TC truly. I mean I really don't think that people are gonna freak. Like once the hat goes back on everything changes. That's very true. Looking at they don't have the betting lines up yet for the singles matches but USA to win 19-9 which would be a record is the the second Like it's plus 600 the second most likely school like US to win 17 11 is plus 750 What's your own you know predicted 17 11 yours? Yours plus 4,000 right now speaking of betting. How's everybody doing on their plays?
Starting point is 00:45:20 I haven't made any plays yet. I have a hundred singles. I've got a hundred holster nuggets. I think I'm just gonna pick one match and just write it out. You thought maybe I was thinking about I might just put a hundred nuggets on Rory because in a historic team loss of course Rory's gonna win singles match. I can do parles again now. So I just I might make some of the most outrageous parles you've seen. I like that. I like that. You should try to hit a 12-man parlay. Oh, shit. Also, I was thinking, all right. Is this could this be part of the PGA Tours overall plan to pump up the president's cup to where if this, you know, uncompetitive, I think we're going to win in Europe in Italy. Do you think they're gonna win tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:46:05 Are you officially calling it? I think the one singles you think Europe's gonna win singles. I do okay. I do Center which I think honestly like if you lose the cup but win singles, it's kind of a wash, right? Which you said that earlier. That's what Europe has done for fucking 50 years It's win the cup of loose singles Just for what it's worth. It's a new era. So if you'd like to lose the cup of win, so I'll see you wagering on them plus two thirty five to win singles tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:46:31 I love those odds. You have a pre tournament bet on singles or not. I, uh, you know, four sums and they tied. So I think I got my money back. Four sums. Four, four, four ball. Four ball. They tied today.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Yeah, they tied today. You said, as Saturday afternoon, four ball ball four ball. They'll win. So I think that's a push. It was a three way bet. But I'm saying, is this a, is this part of the plan from the PGA tour to increase? Can we stay on the magic ship on the president's cup? Because this gets so, you know, outrageously out of whack. You know, I don't want to, I don't want to fire any
Starting point is 00:47:05 strays here, but if this is how lopsided the rider cup is, the presence cup at Coil Hollow is going to be fucking unwatchable. I know. I know the international are going to. I think that's a better. That's true, man. Throw honor upon Lahiri and Captain Seawoo Kim out on that team and Captain Trevor. I got you dog. It could be a completely different story.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Can we get to the third four sums match from this morning by the way? Yeah, to. Speed and JT were three down through six and when the putter gate when the gimmick eight happened is when everything changed they came back and won that match. That was when the rider cup ended. I think the rider cups kind of it's what we're saying you know about the Europeans night is like, I think it's all about just inventing enemies. Right, like there's no actual adversity or any actual problems out there. You just got to kind of invent boogie men, invent boogie men, invent adversaries out there. Like the man in the black pajamas. Exactly. Worthy fucking adversary. What hole was the, was the, uh, gimme on? Oh, sure, that's who gets
Starting point is 00:48:06 a who I think was on nine actually possibly said. I thought it was seven. I was going to get the link to that put if we had to, but can't we haven't talked much can't lay shop Lee as well. I mean, because there's not a lot of it. It's just for handle business surgical absurd business only. I will say that most impressive part of the day I think for sure is rom and Sergio losing the first three holes and flipping that magic like I'm on I know there wasn't a lot of highlights for for Europe, but that needs to be called out that was awesome I'm surprised that Can't lay and we can't lay specifically are wearing USA colors like I kind of thought they'd be you know like on marked
Starting point is 00:48:43 Contractors. Yeah, like they're just big you know they're playing for Eric princes. I think any other points on on the on the afternoon session as far as groups got on the afternoon today. Yeah, I'm I think we'll I'm gonna talk Bryce and Scotty. Yeah, you said you wanted to talk about Scotty. Yeah, I, I mean, Scotty just, you know, they won 14, 15, 16, and so. Exactly. Which five? I know this is for the 50th time this week, but like the whole experience thing, like the rookies as predicted.
Starting point is 00:49:15 That's not fucking matter. Five years ago when you're screaming like pick rookies, pick rookies, pick rookies, the rookies show up. They're 11 and two on the US side. It's unbelievable, man. Youth youth is I meant to look up Davis love the third Jim fury like all the body system fucks at Johnson like all those dudes look at the first Right out of have them on the team first rider cup with no tiger and fill first one for the US
Starting point is 00:49:42 It's gonna be a historic beat and And that is such a like, yeah, just, yeah, coming back to modern, you know what I mean? Let's come back and choosing your best players and playing. I was going to say it comes back to fluff in the analytics and a lot of that stuff, but like all the other shit, it just, it feels so archaic. But like, you know what, that guy man in big like, he's the guy in big moments. But I was also saying in prior, like, eras and years, like there wasn't this talent pool. Like there wasn't always like huge big ass US talents left at home. Like there were guys that were on the fringe
Starting point is 00:50:15 and like the Billy Horseshoe 14 thing was there. But like while those, there's another, what, five guys? They could have easily been on the stage. I'm saying we're in a new era. I'm with you. Like in 2010, 2008, 2004, especially six and four, like those guys were not there. They were not around.
Starting point is 00:50:32 I don't think it's probably, you know, maybe it's an indictment of the course or maybe it's something but like, it does feel like there's more predictability. Maybe it's just how good the US has played. But and maybe it's how soft some of the greens are. We got some rain last night. It's a very, very targeted course.
Starting point is 00:50:49 No, I'm not even like, this is serious to you. Like not manipulation. It's a very target based course. It's a very point to point course and like, the guys that can hit those golf shots are like 17's been a litmus test all week. Like somebody that can hit 230 are four iron or three. Yeah, like they're gonna have a massive advantage. Now it's played tough too. Like it is a difficult golf course.
Starting point is 00:51:16 I mean, it's like, yeah, you gotta hit like watching shots on seven today. Watching shots on 12 today where they put that pin and watching the chief shot was where they had to aim to get the ball in that little like Inlet holy shit, man That's what a lot of people I think have have unfairly shit on whistling straights I do think like it's a fun test to watch man It there's it's like Pete Dye courses. I don't like I don't want to plan but I like watching the pro
Starting point is 00:51:40 Yeah, I like a lot of of what I like to a keywa right a lot A lot of what we walk away from that week saying like, man, that's a really fun test to watch. I think there's a lot of very similar stuff out here. It's a it's a it would be a great TV court. Like it's really tough to walk in person. It's not like the most fun golf course to play in person, but like watching the pros play on TV. It's probably pretty perfect. That's a good PJ championship golf course. I hope they keep it in the keep it in the rota. I think it is a good Ryder Cup venue. Obviously for the US chances of winning. I kind of was iffy on that after seeing it. I think it's an iffy Ryder Cup venue
Starting point is 00:52:14 experienced wise for the people on the ground compared to Hazel team candidly. But I don't I don't think this has been a good one time thing. I don't think this should be a future Ryder Cup venue. Would would rather have a PGA than a Ryder Cup. Yes. It may. My biggest takeaway from venue wise is that it proves to me
Starting point is 00:52:33 that you should have a Ryder Cup at Chambers Bay. Because it's a very similar piece of land. I know West Coast. Maybe not, you should. But they're having one. You could. I'm gonna say. Or I think they should like, like,
Starting point is 00:52:46 like, because they've proven at Olympic club, because they're having one Olympic club in early 2030s, that they're going to have one there on the West Coast. And I know that's shitty for the European fans. But if you're going to have one out on the West Coast, I think Chambers Bay would be such an awesome. We're talking about today. Imagine how, if anyone's been to Chambers Bay, like, it't play like a Link's Golf course, but it feels like a Link's course in that the whole place is completely exposed. It does play like a Link's Golf course.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Well, I guess it does. Yeah, yeah. But the, like the roar's out there, and I mean, you'd see everything going on. It would be awesome. The biggest key, big-ass amphitheater greens, big amphitheater greens. Like you need some of it.
Starting point is 00:53:24 They're almost maybe too steep at Chambers Bay. Yeah. But even then, it's a TV product as long as you get some of the, some of the roars going. What did you guys think of? Teppka and Speed getting paired. That was unexpected.
Starting point is 00:53:37 That was a little weird one to me. I mean, they went up against the Spanish Armada. I thought Big Tone, again, I want to see Big Tone and Speed. I thought big tone. Again, I want to see big tone and speed. I thought they would have been awesome. I think going back to JT and Cantlay, I just would flip those two. I feel like JT and Capca would have been a better match and then speed and Cantlay would have been, they just seemed like they would have
Starting point is 00:53:58 vived more on both the flip those two. I can see that. So I don't know what's going on in the team room. I don't know. Well, what do the analytics say? That's the big question. I think looking at the pairings tomorrow, I think it's a really, like, it's a sign of respect for Xander that they're sending him out first.
Starting point is 00:54:17 And that's a very, like, that's a tip of the hat from striker to Xander. Well, there's a lot of, we keep referencing this, but a lot of the stuff that came out about 2014 in Palm, Gimley and all that stuff that was like his horse trading with g-mac right was and this again we shout out Shane Ryan's podcast but he went into detail about this you guys really should listen to the Mill like a podcast if you haven't listened to it. But he was talking about GMAC like, hey, you're only gonna play three matches, but as a tradeoff, I'm gonna send you out first. And that was just like GMAC like completely bought in after that. So it's a big deal. Yeah. And then meanwhile, like, you know, Rory going out, it feels like it does feel like the sacrificial lamb a little bit of like Hey, man, like put up or shut up and then otherwise like, you know, maybe take a year off or maybe like Maybe Rory needs to be the be the captain when they go to a dare man. Yeah, I think it's interesting. I almost think it's Harrington like
Starting point is 00:55:20 That's how it's gonna say the exact official lamb is like yo look at this guy No, you guys want to blame me like here's your boy. No, no, no, I think that I how it's going to set me in the out like official lamb. It's like, yo, look at this guy. You guys want to blame me? Like, here's your boy. No, no, no, I think that. I think it's simply if Roy doesn't play, they have no chance if he doesn't win his match, right? And also if he loses, that's like big bold letters, like right there.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Yeah. This is what I needed. Or maybe Roy call for the ball. What if the team room he's calling for the ball? This is this is playing well enough to call for and I think it's just late for the But this is also why I had a big issue with DJ in 2018 like he went one and four and he was supposed to be that dude Like that's that's I have a hangover from 2018 and listen He's avenged it. He is won the four points back at his first
Starting point is 00:56:02 But also like DJ had like he had a good record going into that It was like you are always talking about course fit. That's terrible course fit It was a bad course fit and all that where it's like it's not like this is a bad course fit for Rory Current Rory what about the emails just another guy? Everything's a bad course fit for current Rory. Yeah, he's just no guy PC courses where you can just Throw it down to 340 and it opens up. No, he'll be a man as a quail hall of the. Yes. Quick run down a record.
Starting point is 00:56:28 If he's still playing golf. Burger one and one. Cantlay two, oh and one. Bryson one, oh and one. Harris English one and one. Fina one and one. DJ four and oh. Keppka one and two.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Moira Kawa and Zander both three and oh. Scotty one, oh and one. Speed one, two and oh. JT one, one and two, Moira, Kawa and Zander both three and O, Scotty one, O and one, Spieth one, two and O, JT one, one and one. If you had told me that Spieth and Capca and JT will combine for a losing record, I'd be a lot more worried than I am going into tomorrow, but that's what depth is. You're up to the right, you're up to the European.
Starting point is 00:56:59 European teams, I'll start with the win list. Paul Casey, O and three, Fitzpatrick, O and two, Fleet, O1 and one, Victor, Havelin, O3 and one, Rory, Owen, three, Polter, Owen, two, Burt, Veecesberger, Owen, two, Lee Westwood, Owen, two. Then we have Sergio, three and O. We have Tirol Hatten, one, one and one, Shane Lowry, one and one, John, Rob, three, Owen, one. I think the hovelin one is probably you know doesn't tell the full story I think it's probably a little bit of a coming of age for him maybe he's not ready to carry the load for like he was babysitting he was bad in the afternoon today he he let that match I think Paul Casey like he's in this he's in the Rory camp
Starting point is 00:57:42 right of like maybe not as much as expected of, but also like you went out and played the first, yeah, you know, like both the sessions yesterday and then played one today. Like even you guys got the first time. I was kind of happy about Casey O. and three. Yeah, all the brits are always like, why don't you like poke Casey? He's a fine bloke.
Starting point is 00:58:02 He's not a bloke. Okay, he's not a bloke. Does not qualify a bloke. Okay, he's not a bloke. Does not qualify as a bloke. I'm happy for a hat. The eagle though was a bloke alert. A bloke alert. I mean, like technically, he was throwing up the bloke signal. Yeah, he was trying to be a bloke.
Starting point is 00:58:16 I mean, he was trying to be a bloke, but he's not an approved bloke. He was, he's not winning the Cheb and Chandler award. Do you guys have a good day out there? Yeah, really good. Really good. It's fun to watch it. It was getting a little tight this morning. It was guys have a good day out there? Yeah, really good. It's a really good time. It was fun to watch. It was getting a little tight this morning.
Starting point is 00:58:27 It was fun. The Europeans were threatening at times. It wasn't a blow. It didn't feel like a blow out today. I know it looks like it was on the scoreboard. It kind of turned out to be that. But it was fun golf to watch. Both days, the yours have lost control.
Starting point is 00:58:39 So matches they've been leading all day. It's just like, oh, it's just a... That back nine. It's just a moralizing. But that back nine's asking a different question. That's just like, oh, that back nine. Just demoralizing. But that back nine is asking a different question. And that's just depth. Especially with the wind. It just feels like the US just keeps outlasting them, right?
Starting point is 00:58:52 And you said, I thought you said it perfectly on Twitter too, which was, I forget how you phrased it, but like, the US just blew you out again for the third straight session. And now we've got a rested Tony and Bryson coming off the bench. Like, good luck, man. Yeah, truly, truly horses in the back. session. And now we've got a rested Tony and Bryson coming off the bench. Like good luck, man. Yeah. Truly, truly horses in the back.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Truly. Yeah. Like those dudes are probably going all for team matches on the other side. Yeah, I mean, it's gross. I'm really, I love singles. I think it's my favorite. I wish, I kind of wish it wasn't buried at the end.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Almost like, you know, and maybe that's something that the president's cup should do to different spirit itself, to where you've got, you know, Friday is team play, Saturday singles, and then Sunday you go back to team play, right? I think that would be super interesting. It's interesting. But also, like, I'm very, and then I do want to give a shout
Starting point is 00:59:43 out to our friend Seth Law traffic. Oh exceptional traffic. A lot better today. He was he was torn up about it yesterday. Traffic was fixed. He fixed it. He fixed it. So also I want to talk about I want to talk about her emails. Do we have a lot of emails? Okay. Some of the things you said on the preview about DJ. Well totally changed the tone of this. Lastly, I feel like we've short-changed Morakawa just a little bit. Yeah. 3-0 first, Ryder Cup. There's really too many guys in the US.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Yeah, it's going to take a while to get through all the shout outs we have on the US team. I would say, I told DJ earlier, if he's not the poster trial for the Boys and Girls Club, after this we can ultimate mentee just crow-barring that day. Yes, I'm going to kiss. It's an Easter egg for everybody. He's the freaking baby goat I love awesome. He's so good. I love his golf love his vibe and let we'll end the show on this I cannot imagine there's many European fans watching this but if you sent me a tweet in the last three months
Starting point is 01:00:38 That you think I might have bookmarked tomorrow might be a day to go in and delete some tweets It's all I'm gonna say wow. I got some miss it. It's all I'm gonna say. Wow I got some receipts. It's all I'm gonna say. I'll but await until that final until they get that 19th point But we can we can make tomorrow much more macro conversation. Yeah, well, I'm sure we'll get right in the world tomorrow TC and if we don't we're gonna talk all night about Rasmus Hogard Lucas that Lucas the Swedish guy. Yeah, Ludwig. Ludwig, we're going to talk about Matthias Schwab. And the others, too. And then the other, where are the Spaniards?
Starting point is 01:01:12 There have to be more Spaniards. Yeah, Puyg, Puyg, the Spanish Puyg. Can I ask you before, sorry, I thought we were rapping, but we're not, because I have a question I want to ask you guys that was posed to me in a delightful way, if I can find it. It was. You want to vamp for a that was posed to me in a delightful way if I can find it It was you want to vamp for a while in just once you know salsa today. I thought the spread was great Well, no, we biggest biggest news of the day. We confirmed it was in fact Yeah, you guys I had did the investigation myself. Thank you, which should have been a conflict
Starting point is 01:01:40 No, actually I appreciate you it was filmed. Okay cool and film dep was filmed. Oh, okay. Cool. And it was a film deposition. It was. It was. Yes. And I will say that it was a corn salsa. And it was for the crab cakes. Was that right? Yep. Crab cakes.
Starting point is 01:01:55 I know you could put corn salsa with crab cakes. It was also still no chips and next to the bread bowls. So don't know the catering staff under the bus. I thought it was an interesting table setup. I thought I'm going to say one more thing about Neil. He's been know the catering staff under the bus. I thought it was an interesting table set up. I thought I'm going to say one more thing about Neil. He's been wearing his golf shoes out on the course. I what but not an obvious pair golf. I don't remember any freaking foot joys or something.
Starting point is 01:02:16 I'm not. Oh, no, I got the players on and those are two. So here's the question. Could this team have beaten the current European team? This is numbers 15 through 26 on the US list. Jason Kochrack, Sam Burns, Billy Horschl, Kevin Kisner, Kevin Naugh, Phil Mikkelsen, Max Homa, Will Zalatoris, Gary Woodland, Brian Harmon,
Starting point is 01:02:39 Matthew Wolf, Ryan Palmer. I don't think so. Probably not, but I think it's really close. I think it's close,. I think it's close. But I think you asked or I think the only the reason I wanted to go through that was I think that will say will Salatoris probably coming for the next team and Matthew Wolf if he gets shit figured out yeah probably coming for that next team. So this team's probably getting better. Like with his trajectory probably should have been on this team, right? The more interesting question, like which three Americans won't be on the next team.
Starting point is 01:03:08 We can talk about that tomorrow. I'll say, yeah. That's called a teaser tomorrow. It's a hard night. Thanks everyone for tuning in. We'll see you tomorrow for a celebration for three fifths, four sixths of us here, two thirds otherwise known as chairs. Cheers! Better than most

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