No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 483: Sunday Ryder Cup Recap

Episode Date: September 27, 2021

History is made as the US by a record margin of 19-9. We recap the Sunday matches, discuss Rory, the press conferences afterwards, who is going to be on these teams in the next event, grades for each player, and so much more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah! That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most Expect anything different ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the no-ling up live shows slash podcast History is made the United States is one the writer cup 19 to nine solid here. Neil is here. Hello. Neil congratulations winning team cheers cheers. Hello. We never left the team.

Cheers, guys, hats off to you guys. Wait, we haven't called on you guys yet. DJ Pius here. Hello, DJ. I'm offering my sincere congratulations. Well, and we like to know that. It was an aspirin for the ages. We'd like to welcome in for their press conference here,

the European team that finished in second here. Guys, where do we go from here? First questions for Tron. You know, obviously, obviously I have to go to the Sanderson Farms this week to defend my title. Before we do get to that, I also want to give a shout out to John Rom for the incredible season he's put together. Feel like a lot of people have, and this was my idea to have this as the Callaway Ad Read tonight. A lot of people forgot this was an equipment change year. His game went to an entirely different level this year. A lot of people forgot this was an equipment change year. His game went to an entirely different level this year.

You know, a lot of people were questioning it. You know, if someone were calling us out before even switched like, oh, are you gonna, you know, you're gonna harass him if he has a bad year because it was equipment change with Callaway's response. Well, we don't have to. We don't have to. We don't have that.

We don't have to. Oh, taste it. He uses the Epic Speed triple diamond driver. He uses the Epic Speed fairway woods, Apex, TCB irons, jaws, forged wedges, Odyssey White Hot, OG, Rossi putter, Chromesoft, X Golf by talk to his caddy little bit today, kind of brought up that, Hey, I people totally forgot his equipment change here. And he's like, dude, it just, it's, it's, the stuff is just out of control. It's so good. And he's like, I'm not just saying that because they pay

us. So take that's for what it's worth, but that's what he told me. Maybe off the record. I might not be, maybe not should have shared. Come to death row. CalWigOff.com for more information on ROMs. I don't even have to go through the stats for how insane his season was and how crazy his performance was. We're gonna grade every player,

but then CalWigOff.com for more information. But. I'm not reading the curve either. What's, Randy, I feel like the floor is yours. I think you said you have some things you want to say about this most recent event. Absolutely. First of all, I just want to say it was pleasure having some new blood on the team. And I hope this negative outcome will not define us but lead to better things in the future. I look forward to having you on the squad for,

you know not only Coil Hollow this year, going over to Rome, you know all sorts of soulheim cup, Spain, soulheim cup, all those. So, well thank you. Listen, not the result I wanted on team Europe this year, just straight got our ass kicked. No other way around it. Can't sugar code it anymore.

Can't, you know, playoffs. Can't play anything other than it was an ass kicking for the ages. So I want to congratulate not only the American team, but you three gentlemen in this bus. It's well earned. So congratulations. Randy's trying to win the Jacklyn Nipwoods.

As TC said, you know, weirdly, I feel even better about my decision, getting in on the ground floor. I think it was more, Randy was like a first responder. He's running into the building. Some people run away from trouble. I run to it. And I think it was, you know, I think it's, I forget what character it's always been a corny quote from Vanilla Sky, but without a little bitter,

the sweet ain't so sweet. So we tasted the bitter and then we're going to get our sweet over in Roman a couple years. You truly got it on the ground floor because the building collapsed. Also, we got a great DM from Dave Guthile, who said, Euros may struggle in the next couple of Ryder cups, because they're stacked, but they are stacked with captains for the next 10 to 12 years. That's true. Westwood, Kymur, Garcia, Polter, Stenson,

Donald, and Big Towel Rose. Not enough Ryder cups. You might have to do co-captains. Seriously, that is what might, you might have to do it. Where are the Ryder cup every year? Where are the more played every year? It's too many captains.

How do you guys hear the Rory interview today and not want to do the Ryder it every year? It's too many captains. How do you guys hear the Rory the Rory interview today and not want to do the rider cup every year? Because you you start going down that road and it that goes away. That's the goes away. Too much of a good thing. Yes is possible. Then we got to do all all annual events now become semi-annual by annual by annual there's a reason why we don't get up for like the memorial every year like we do the rider cup. Yeah, it's it's not because it's the To your dad. Yes, it is. I think that adds a lot. There's like competitive starvation there for sure You're telling me that the the euros have to wait two years to go get redemption like that's gonna weigh on them for the next two years And they're gonna be chomping at the bit. It's gonna make it that much sweeter or that much more devastating when it does happen Yeah, and I would say we, you know, we got to see the interviews, which is the first time I've seen like the live post-round and it was really It was awesome to see the juxtaposition between both teams, but watching the Euro's interview

You could see how heavy it weighs on Polter and Westwood because they know two years is a long time Whereas if it's one year, I think it's like oh, maybe maybe you know, it gives them a little bit more hope. It's it's very, there's a finality to it for a lot of these guys when there's a gap in between for the next one. I think for those two, it might be longer than two years. Also, what do you mean? Like that? I think this is it. No, I know, but no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, but my point is like, if it was one year away, I think maybe both those guys were like, oh, I could, you know, I could maybe get a better. You know, maybe I can, you know, bring it one more year. I see what you're saying.

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There's a variety of things he could have done differently, but I don't think it was going to yield a different outcome, right? They just got, they got outplayed plain and simple and like there wasn't any fixing it. It was, yeah, they just ran into a freight train. I don't know. I think he could have and should have adjusted. Like, once we got to the week of and the team that he brought here,

like, I think they had no chance from the get-go. And I think there are things he could have done to fill out the final three spot. Like six automatic qualifiers and six captains picks would have yielded a different team than he brought. And a team that probably more looked more like what he would have wanted to bring. So he's got to own that though because he is in charge of the qualification, right?

He went to the European tour and he got to adjust it from four captains picks to three. You know who else did that? Tom Watson in 2014. How did that go? I don't want to be too overreacting here in terms of the fact that Europe just lost a rider cup. Doesn't mean it has to be panic. The two over reacting here, in terms of the fact that Europe just lost a rider cup doesn't mean it has to be panic. Just by that simple fact, but if I'm looking at what team we just lost to and what team we

brought and then some guys falling off, a little bit of panic, I think, in terms of, I don't want to say a task force, but a little bit of like, we got to reevaluate a lot of things here. Qualifications got a change on one. And two, like, you're saying we. This is we is we man. I'm saying I'm saying this in the shower with us. I for the record and I'm not sure. Yeah, I think looking at the kind of what's the big takeaway? What's the big you know the big headline? I think we tend to

kind of what's the big takeaway, what's the big, you know, the big headline. I think we tend to become prisoners of the moment, right? And shout out to Nelly Corpus, 11 majors, things of that nature. I think we're all very guilty of of doing that every time that happens. I don't think that find me in 10, 15 years. Sure. I don't think we're doing that with this US team. I mean, this it's all clicked and I don't know where it's going. I mean it's gonna be like this for a while. It's gonna be different in Europe. It's not gonna be this this golf course fit like this one was. It was I mean I was screaming it from the rooftops Coming into this like Europe just doesn't have the horses to hit the big boy golf shots that are required on that course And we saw it even in the back. Yeah, there no horses in the back

They did not on everything that required more than wedge play. I don't have the stats in front of me, but the numbers were enormous on par five. So the long iron and fairway would play just basically the test of length as a skill. The US dominated that one. And I felt like I don't have the number in front of me as well. But the long par three is the US also dominated. It was 17s a great example of that. Just I test was us. Seven. Trying you were saying that it just the ball flat. There was a lot more pop coming off the club. I think another example of that is, you know, one's not necessarily representative of this,

but Europe got their asses beat on one and two all week. Yes. They they they flipped that around and singles a little bit. Got a little bit of early momentum going. But I think that's indicative of number two. That's a demanding second shot in there. Everybody's pretty much going for that green and two, but you've got to step up to the plate. Same thing on 16. If there were any matches in the balance, you tied one down, two down, even.

The US had a distinct advantage aside from ROM and maybe Havland going into 16 because that second shot is super hard and then 17's just a beast. I was gonna say Rory as well, but he didn't make it any of those holes. He found that to be a Rory. He made it to 16.

I think also, so we talked a lot in the lead up to this about the team dynamic, how shitty the US has been at that, how great Europe has been at that. And I don't now think we sweep all that under the rug. I think a lot of that shit matters when it's close, when the team, when they have an actual team to deal with. You can't overcome complete deficiencies on your team with this whole, we love each other,

we're gonna bond together. But also, I think on some level, some of that explains the US playing well. Like they've gotten a lot, it seems like they've gotten a lot more cohesive and a lot better at that, right? It seems like- Which I've not heard it discussed enough.

Like probably the reason why that is. This is the first team since what 93 that has not had either Tiger or Phil on it. Well, yeah, and unpack that a little bit because we're talking about, we're talking with Porter about that, talking about that a couple times this week that when those guys are in the team room. How do you not just feel like you're like kiss the ring? Yeah, like how does it not feel like it's their team?

You're just kind of hanging out right and this you could see it up there on the you know in the interview room You could see it speed set it. We've set it a bunch of times like these guys have all been pretty much for the the critical Mass of this team has been buddies since they were in elementary school, right? Playing junior golf and like it really shows they all legitimately the Bryson Brooks thing aside and whatever if we can talk about that, but Yeah, they all seem like they really enjoy just being around each other and that's what we've said about the Europeans for 20 years, right? And it felt pretty real though. It's a different type of friendship and I still think that it feels much more like a one-week thing than a, you know, let's do this all the time kind of a thing, but it's a massive step in the

red direction. But here's also where they have an advantage over Europe in that it is a one-week thing, but they get to do it next year with the president's cup. It's not a rider cup thing, but like they're going to want to keep a lot of the same dudes around. Solly, I hate this. You always forget about the Eurasia Cup. Yeah, a lot of the big European tour guy, Rory's record in the Eurasia Cup, I think speaks for itself.

But listen, he's got a lot of losses in the Eurasia Cup. I would like to say one thing for the Euros, again, back to the post-round stuff, they were really tight up there on the stage the Euros were together. And there was a lot of like, I remember that from 16, too. You know, like some tears and just some like, you could tell it was, you know, very...

But they're laughing together, too. Yeah, yeah, and I spent them. And then you kinda, you know, juxtaposed that with how the US has lost in the past, like, you know, fights and blame game. And, you know, I know some of those guys that were responsible for that, the culprits weren't really on this team,

but I think it's worth noting that I thought the Euras lost with class and stuck together throughout it. So I will say on the cheerstee, guys. A tits! A bunch of good blows to have. Little sausages, Naro. Cheerstee, you guys.

I will say, let's not, like, going back to Neil's point about two years ago, or two two years ago two years from now Things can change right can't lay like not probably not the most durable Long-lasting career that we're looking at Bryson who knows You know, I think DJ is gonna be there for the next four to five Kepp his knees all fucked up. Well, you know, JT's putting his mess.

Like there's some things that there's some injury stuff and there's some things that can happen. They've got a great nucleus and a great core, but I don't like this was kind of a perfect storm of a lot of guys being healthy and a lot of guys being. And the course fit is incredible. And the dynamic is completely shifts, like the kind of play,

I'm ready to reengage in the na-horshull Kizner conversation now. It was a whistling thing that like this makes absolutely no sense for this golf course. And over there, that style of play might work. Like we might, they're probably gonna do thick rough like at Paris. We're gonna need more driving accuracy than we have.

Like we're gonna need guys that are in force. I'm you're going to see off on these holes and you're going to get the ball and play for us. Bring it bright, Harmon. You know, throw him in that mix. That would that could easily make sense. But I think it I think we have dibs on horse. Although as a West Ham.

You know, could be the Euro tour champion. No, I was just going to say I do think the US team looks very cohesive and they look friendly and I think what will really be interesting is when they meet some adversity. And it might not be for, you know, that's, they might be so talented, it might not really happen for a while. But it'll be interesting how they react when things aren't going like great as well as they can go I think so not like I think now Is a great time to do this talk of like who who on this team isn't on the team in 2023? Well sort of on that note. I think you tweeted it You know obviously it's kind of a joke solid, but the the calm to the dream team like I would almost like to see them

Like especially the presence coming up, which I think you know take, I think is gonna be a fucking blood bath. I can't call it hollow. Wow, I'm kinda cold, you know? Yeah, you can call me on that. I think I almost like them, you know, they've been these like sheepish underdogs for so long, even though they're the favorites. And it's just like this really weird,

almost like lack of identity. I feel like in a lot of those, these Ryder Cups for the last, really since I've started watching the Ryder Cup, you know? And I feel like this is kind of a tone setter shout out to big tone I think kind of a tone setter for going forward if this nucleus does stay together It's just like yo, let's we're fucking bad dudes Let's try to run it up every time like almost having that mentality I feel like keeps you more locked in when that adversity hits right when it's just's just like, no, no, no, we're, we're those guys.

We're gonna get through this. It's okay. Or, or if Lipson, it pops the bubble and who knows? Well, it's spectacular if it does, if it does pop too. A couple of speed things there. Speed was the one that, in the team room, either this morning or whatever it was, said the record is 19 and we're gonna go get it. Yeah.

Which is sweet. And two, someone asked the question to someone else and they gave kind of a shitty answer in terms of like, does, oh, as Xander spoke up, somebody asked the question, said, you know, is it kind of like an unfinished business thing until you win one in Europe, right? And Xander was just like, oh, I'm just enjoying this one right now.

And speak like, wasn't prompted for it. And I was just like, I'll take that one actually. I do feel like there's unfinished business. I was on two losing teams in Europe. And I feel like it know if we play he's like if we play the similar style golf It's probably gonna be a similar result over there and I was like fuck I thought the way that they are rain like the way They're pretty seated in the in the press conference was really interesting. They were all kind of broke You know you had JT and Brooks kind of up top left yet Scotty and Jordan top right, Bryson kind of on his own front right,

Warikawa, sitting next to his big brother, DJ. That's right. DJ Kuropp, you know, Sandy Chin. You know, they're kind of right there in the middle. Like I think, Xander, like to me, it seemed like Xander really had a gravity about him. It's the most I ever had a talk, right?

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It was just kind of, I don't think Harris was asked to question or said anything in the press conference. He was scrolling. Might have been swiping, I don't know what he was doing. Yeah. He was, he was, he was had some scurlyosis going on.

Putting all bits aside, part of the reason why I think you, you did not want to root for the US team was they were not likable. If you were revisiting it currently not one group of the US team was they were not likable. If you were revisiting it currently, I think they're more likable. Yeah, I still prefer, I still prefer both the caddies in. Like I prefer the European team. I think, you know, I don't know.

I have issues with JD personally. Like just, I don't, you know, just sometimes when I watch him play, I just just doesn't resonate with me. But on the flip side, like Jordan and DJ are my two favorite players, right? Yeah, I was telling Neil, we were walking back to the rig. You know, that's why I picked like, you know, if I have to pick a side, I will pick Team Europe because at the end of the day, like, who do I want to, who's Team Roomba do I want to pick a side I will pick team Europe because at the end of the day Like who do I want to who's team room? Do I want to walk into and and have some beers? It was validated like just seeing him this week and seeing the press conferences like I'm going to the team Europe room to

Hang out with those guys they they train and Rory and and it doesn't make them better guys I think they speak to me more than the majority of the American team. To Transpoint, there are some guys in the American team. I absolutely love to hang out with, but it's like an overwhelming sense from the European side. The guy that I think I'm most on the US team that most strong to kind of newcomer is like that kind of changes the whole dynamic. It's Scotty.

He just shows up. It's the fucking job done. You know, not doesn't say a whole lot, but also like he's contributing both socially and like he just seems like such a great glue guy that it's it's it's it's that haven't had in the past. Nocturne World No. 1 correct. 4 and 0 John Rom today. We'll get to some matches. Five of the first seven holes I think. Five for six. Yeah. Well, and sorry, so on top of that, like the luxury, like Hovlin and Sheffler, I'd say, are pretty similar players, right?

Hovlin's maybe a little better in normal, you know, stroke play, whatever. And then Hovlin's basically like the fourth best player on Europe, maybe third best. And Sheffler was probably the last guy on the team. Like just speaks to the result. Sorry, you were going to say, well, just back to Ranny's point, like when you were telling me that on the way back here, I had a hard time not like nodding.

Like because I witnessed the press conferences too and I don't want to like zero in on the, but I think people show a lot like when they're on the extremes a little bit of their emotions while they're higher low. Kicked it and that's or like when you're on on top. And I, yeah, I think the, oh, the cool, there were some guys on the US team that, I just felt like I was cringing a little bit or just like, man, yeah, that's just a, like, how would they be if they had lost?

I kind of felt myself feeling like, man, that's, it's a tough, it was a tough vibe a little bit. I'm happy they won, I'm happy for them, but some of them aren't my favorite characters on the playing field, I guess. It's a little, yeah. It's, there's no subtlety. I don't think on the American team.

It's just a lot. It's a little louder, a little dumber, a little just like. There's some thoughtfulness, though. But they all look like they're continues to be like one of the most thoughtful dudes. And I want to say, I want to apologize. They can't lay, yeah. And I want to apologize. DJ totally shut me up both in how he played clearly the leader of the team emotionally clearly like respected by his peers like everybody seems to

like him and enjoy him and and get a kick out of him and he was straight up drunk and funny drunk in the best way possible. Just like holding court up there. And I didn't really, you know, how do I know? But I didn't have a sense of that. And I was, I thought that was the biggest surprise for me. So I just want to say, listen, hand up, that's on me. So that was cool to say.

That's cool. He was the same. I remember being like, yo, DJ, the matches ended like 45 minutes ago and you are hammered in the press already. The guy has no, there's no delay from when as soon as play is done, that, that guy has a cocktail. He wears coding hours, standing up and like right above the steps, looking down on 18, fairway, 18 green. And he must have run back and forth up the steps like four or five times in that 45 minutes, because he was drinking straight tequila.

Very clear glasses coming out of there. Gov. It was on the MJ plan. Yes. I got to give shout out to maybe one of my favorite rider cup questions. I've heard in a really long time, other than the Phil Mickelson talk murder of Tom Watson. I think it was Lou Curtinine asked, you know, DJ, you're the oldest person on the team. Can you still keep up with these guys like at the party tonight? App so

Lutely, he just he just doubled triple quadruple down just next question Next how about you? You want to hang on some of this? You have no chance and then he was like next question And he's aware enough to be like all all right, someone, you know, JT take the mic. Yeah, you know, his timing was great compared to some of the other people, you know, like, and I don't wanna, I don't wanna sit up here and rag on on Bryce and because, like, you know, we do it a lot, but like, can we get back to that?

I'm so excited. No, he just, you know, he, they asked him a question and he's just, he's not like comfortable. He has no timing, he has no, he can, you know, they asked him a question. He's just, he's not comfortable. He has no timing. He has no, he can't help himself, but like personally, like it makes me cringe. I feel, I'm like, dang, dude. So here's what I'll say about that.

Is I wonder if, you know, if this big sweeping dominance that we, or I won't say all of us, some of us are maybe feeling is coming on the American side. Maybe they loosen up a little bit, and maybe they get better at that kind of stuff, and they get better at being kind of like a joky part of a team, because they're all, they haven't really done a lot of that.

And the Europeans, they almost have a template for the team room vibe as well, right? And the press conference vibe, like they all look very, it's weird that the European press conferences winner lose all look almost identical every year, right? Like they all look very, it's weird that the European press conferences, winner lose, all look almost identical every year. Like they all have the same kind of jokes, the same inside jokes, the same timing.

You know, maybe if it's guys just, if it's a dream team vibe and they're together a lot, maybe they can get better at it. I think it's just, these guys are truly way more comfortable around each other than they have been with prior teams. And like that's a generational thing, right? Like, coach and like,

speed probably don't have like a ton in common. They're not hang, you know, but like, Zander and JT are like peers. Carolina, maybe. Of course, they're like peers. And like, I saw a lot more of that stuff going on out there this week of in terms of just like, not stuff that was just done in front of cameras,

but just like other players out there, you know, hanging with each other while following matches. And like more of that stuff I'm used to seeing from Europe, I saw way more of that from the US than I think I've ever seen, which I thought was interesting. Before we get going on to the next bit, our friends at RepSoto are offering $75 off their mobile launch monitors when you go to rapsoto.com,

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I'm on the drive range on the range. Yeah, on the practice tee. We had hinted. I don't know if you out there with two wraps. So, I'm on the range, on the practice tee. We had hinted, I don't know if you want to go there now. Yeah, let's do it. Talking about who Americans won't be on the 2020. I think both Americans, and then we do it for Europe too. I think that's an interesting exercise. Because with the changing of the guard for Europe,

are they able to keep that camaraderie in that? Because it's a very... I think a lot of that's leadership, honestly. The captain, they were naming there. Are they able to keep that camaraderie? Because it's a very... I think a lot of that's leadership, honestly. The captain, they were naming there. The Donald, McDowell, Stenson, Harrington, kind of vibe, they have is what I take to say. But some of them is also a little bit cultural, right?

Where you've got a lot, you've got some with Polter and Westwood and guys that are, they're bargots, they're bloaks, right? And I think if you add the Hogard twins or this Ludwig character that we keep talking about. Sweet. You know, a lot of Northern Europeans, all right, like what does that look like, right? Does that change the complexion

of the personality of the team? And this is getting into the weeds on like, I think Europe has no problem filling in like a point eight to one shot like Stroke's Game Guy. And I, not to turn this into a Stroke's Game thing, but like that, they had a lot of those guys this week and they can replace those guys. They have a lot of what I would call replacement level

Ryder Cup guys. Can you get to that 1.5, 1.75, like elite strong, Sergio's, Rose, Stenson, like the guys that have dictated them winning this for many years have been like a pretty decently, you know, large circle, but like almost everyone has come out of that circle now. Well, some of it too, I think, is the guys that you that are those point eight one stroke

guys, you just need them to play really, really well. That we could guy like a hat or a Casey or and hadn't had it too. He would last like late last year early this year. He was up there. You know, it's just like almost like you caught him at the wrong time. And a take. I forget if I've brought this up on the show tonight. And surprise it hasn't been more of a storyline this week is the last year of COVID had to be way worse for Europeans than it was for Americans.

Well, I, and I haven't done a full chart to see like who's played dipped and whatnot. But like the European tour got ravaged by, by COVID and their purses have gotten severely damaged and their fields and their, and then, and their... And then Jay Monahan came in and, you know, staged a coup and did the strategic alliance. Of course, but like the guys that you got to get your European tour events to be qualifying for the Ryder Cup team, it's a little hard to travel. It's just a lot for the players that have played internationally. And I feel like that, you know, I don't think they would have won last year, but I think I heard, like the margin has to be explained by like, this was harder on them than it was on Americans.

I was going to ask T.C. and Randy, I think we've been very more than fair considering the thorough ass beating that the likes of which we've never seen. The likes of which we've never seen. Will the which we've never seen. Will you apologize here publicly to Stroke's game? No, absolutely not. I just don't like the Europeans. Like I said, I think the guys like Hatton or Fleetwood or Lowry that that aren't very good in Stroke's game. They know that like, yeah, like they were going

to have to play better than they've been playing. They just didn't rise to the occasion. But I want to push back. I'm in the hole. Let me let me let me I'll take an opportunity. I will apologize broadly to Stroke's gain. Thank you. Okay, there are still some applications of it

that I don't like, you know, the wind and weather that golf channels thrown up there. That was a little loose. That was a little loose. That was a little loose. I was a little lazy there, but I will apologize to it on a philosophical broad level. Yes, you have my apology. Brandy that honestly means so much. What I was going to push back on is I think that like, wait a second, you're on my team here. That's going well, but with the strokes get you can't say that like, like, hadn't hadn't for, for instance, his strokes can have sucked the last month to three months, but like, you know, we went through it three nights ago.

He was playing at a, you know, really high, like 1.7 or whatever, like a level, it's just tailed off, right? Like, so I think there's something to be said for. Those guys have done it. Is that a dip or is that, you know? A trending profile. I think like three months is like, a pretty good telling, but not like the Bible, right?

If you have like a, like, not had a crazy good three months leading up to it. And it didn't like change his profile as a player. You could see that he was playing way outside of that normal profile, right? And Hatton was playing well below his profile that he has established as a player. But like that, I don't think like that's what you're targeting. But you're like, that's the exact same thing you used to like shit all over DJ for like the, like the three weeks before this event.

I didn't like his his rolling three to six month profile looked really really shitty. It's been it's been like have a boat way. It's been below what he is like been, but he's still like clearly a player on this team. Like very clearly that's what that's what are you and you know how he's. He's clearly proven that, like, in an alternate universe, because Hatton's strokes gained his profiles up here, he could have gotten back there. He didn't, he didn't perform. It's in and out.

Which is like, kind of what happened with DJ, where clearly it was in there, he went five and oh, but like the last three months it hasn't been. DJ's last three to six months stroke gained profile is better than Hatton's top profile. Like that we're not talking the same dip. Like that's not the same thing. But but in context there, like I think there are a show you like their outliers you like on DJ, you were very, very, very, very bearish on DJ looking at his profile or his last year even saying hey, he's not the same player He was two three four years ago, but to me it's like you know the writer cups great like kind of what Rory was saying like it

It brings out greatness in certain players in these right times and you and you and it hasn't for DJ That's been my point. No, I Like listen, I don't want to relaticate the DJ stuff like he had a bad he had a bad year in Paris I think you do But it feels like that's what we're doing You brought this up. No, but at some point it's like like It's not like you're not playing the event for like for the last six to 12 months Yeah, it's gonna certainly some of those guys are gonna be more likely to play well

But I think what Neil's saying is like You know a guy like a hat and does have a profile of somebody that you were looking at, like, they, that you're looking for in that 1.5 to two strokes game, that, that profile versus just the other guy, right? Yes. My point was that I think you're at play. They, they did not play up to their potential. I mean, obviously, I think it think it can be some double little bit with like their shot, shots gained, right? And it's great. And then some of it's just timing and whether you're exactly like, well, yeah, and then, and then all of that time, randomness, it's a, it's a three day event. If you catch lightning in a bottle, you can massively outperform or underperform.

And they didn't. You're overall profile. But I think that's the exception to the rule, right? Like, those are going to be outliers. And like, yes, you're going to, you might have a Thomas Peters or you might have like, you might, you don't want to bank on guys like having free weeks. Like playing out of their ass. Yeah. And you might have those. And to your point, like you didn't have any of those this week, but I guess it's always overall point is like, even if you had one or two of those, you weren't going to have 12 of those. And it was like, it was just 2D. There's a lot more depth for sure.

Yeah, I think we've acknowledged that, but I think at the end of the day, it's between that, between, I think Stroke's gained T to Green, and then they were vastly overmatched, and then the Europeans just didn't pot well either. Right? The putting stats, Justin Ray had this on the athletic,

that the US had made 41 puts outside of 10 feet and Europe had made 37. So it was not, it was more of a ball striking difference telling than it was just like Europe didn't put. I mean, it was just like a, that golf courses, there's nowhere to hide if you can't strike it. And the way that that courses balanced to how they did the holes were like, the way that that course is balanced too, how they did the holes were like, the holes that Bryson's driving on,

or I'm sorry, I guess he was not playing for some, the holes that the long got, the drive guys were driving on, were like real short par fours that you could drive, almost like six and 10, and also the three of the par fives and the long par fours. Like it just, it fit so freaking well for that team. It was crazy.

All right, who's not gonna be on the team? Yeah, that's that's where we started. I for the US Harris Harris English. I think he is the most yeah, the most likely to not be on the team. I would not write him off for it, but I think there's a pool of like four or five guys that are like take your leave. It will take who's kind of going hot in that time period from that group, and maybe probably adding in a Will's Allataurus, if Matthew Wolf kind of gets his shit figured out, then that is like somebody that kind of a sleeping giant

that would be pretty great in this competition, I would think, maybe not for Italy, but. Yeah, what's crazy, of course, Risency bias, and like you said, you don't know what's gonna happen in injuries, and yada yada, but It fucking really feels like a team you could just take all 12 of those guys to Italy, right? Like would you sign up for those 12 guys right now?

Two years to long time. Like, you know, what happened to Jordan Speeth in the last two years for us? No, of course. And I don't want, but I don't want to fall back into, I think this is gonna be like, we need like a scouting team on that golf course. Because you can't show up in France with the team they showed up.

Like, you can't do that what they did in 2018, which is show up with the team that was just not fit for that golf course. Like, I'm curious to see which guys go over to Italy and carve it out of their schedule, right? I'm saying, but I feel like that's the consistent captains of like, we need to like go and see. Isn't that like the little stuff though? And we kind of heard this throughout the press conference.

Even Roy talked about this with like younger guys embracing and the Ryder Cup becoming more of like these younger guys fabric, right? And we saw JT to his massive credit, right? Go play the French Open at LaGolf National. And maybe as, you know, this nucleus becomes like more of a dream team vibe, like the Ryder Cup is a really big deal to us. Maybe you see more of those guys go do that stuff. I hope. I think that that's like the change

you're looking for rather than just you know I'm a superstar and like yeah I guess I guess that's where I'm going to play this week is the writer cup which is I think the vibe the last 20 years. Because I'd love to talk about Bryson like if we were going to the golf national in two years like no freaking way like why not he's gonna auto call probably will well I mean like what happens if P qualifies do you risk it's interesting new kind of entire chemistry and you wow you have not gotten there got you have Bryson and see let me enjoy this not of price and and P on the team like that's that's that's tough guys well then who's the matrix between likely won't qualify on points plus is replaceable

on a golf course? I mean, it's like burger and hair is English to me or like in that. That's why the dog's playing there too. Fina was definitely in there. Fina was not really like I was kind of souring on Fina being on this team as of this summer. He had a tough summer. He kind of he flipped it at the bottom, had a good obviously a great kind of end of the summer and in the playoffs and what got a big break. There you go. And it lined up very well for him to make this team and he

you know, he had a one and two record, but I mean, I would say it was a very solid contribution. He didn't play great on the back half, but like had his moments in that opening match that kind of cemented his place on this team, but strobe-scan teammate. Great teammate. Awesome. Great teammate. Surprise.

One of, and this is not the highest compliment because the US mostly looks pretty lame when they do their stuff, but like the coolest looking celebrator of the US team, I would say. I agree with that. Like the best at playing to the crowd. I would put Finau in there.

Yeah, Burger, Burger was, Burger finished two and one, but I think he, he would probably tell you, he got away with, got away with some stuff. He was not the, not his best golf. What about a guy like Scotty? Scotty locked, in my opinion, Scotty locked up a spot on the next team. I still think it's kind of,

I'm just, just by going, like, by going out and what he did today Yeah, showing that as long as he stays in decent form. Yeah, and I was gonna say too like that's gonna be the next go-round with Captains picks like these guys have put a lot of equity in the bank now with great performances And so it's gonna be they get the tie break. It's like oh my god. Yeah. How do you leave Scotty? He kicked rams ass? You know two years ago, you know, good on these guys. And that's what kind of what I was probably, and I don't know if I'll ever be able to make the point

well enough of like Scotty is like over the last two years a 1.5 stroke game guy. And Horsesho was like a one. And the difference in that value for a rider-coupper, I think is like literally the actual literal difference. Like, and Scotty's getting better. Yeah, like he's still young He's still like I think Scotty's just scratching the surface. I mean Shouting from the rooftops of like he's just the guy that's like really really good on your little league team

That's also really he's gonna like he's gonna play He'll be the best basketball player on his 7th or 8th grade team and he's he's a Three star basketball recruits. He's a natural. It's just a natural athlete. He knows how to be a part of a team. Yeah. He's just a good dude.

And he's and he makes a shitload of birdies. Yeah. I got a difficult one guy who's not one of singles match ever. Oh my god. Really? He doesn't qualify. If Jordan plays like he did this year, I would take him all-world teammate. Yeah, but you would you would think that course would suit him better in Italy, right?

In theory, I think speed still got some stuff to tighten up. He kind of faded as the sun. He's not all the way there. Yeah. He was through major season. He was like the second best player in the world. And they probably went a little underperchated because his results didn't quite fully match. But once we got past the British Open, he kind of just faded just kind of ended the season with a little bit of a whimper. And he was not very good.

I can't wait. I can't wait to laugh out for this one before we started. But I'm going to reheat it. DJ is going to be 39 the next time around. I just think about like the comp of Justin Rose or Stenson or some of these guys We're like you see him in a rider cup. They they ball out and then just like when it goes it I'm not gonna I'm not saying it's gonna happen to him But when it goes at that 38 39 40

Like age range it goes really quick. It's so weird about DJ though What I was like what I'm gonna say if it's Last captains pick of DJ versus Sheffler what you know say they have similar form who you going with that And that's where the equity right? Yeah, man coming off of 5 and 0 like I just don't know how they would not Pick DJ. I don't want to skip by the especially with the with the team room stuff that we just called DJ a jacknostic I don't think he's a yeah, he's he's in that good shape totally I agree He's like long language swing a guy that's not gonna You know, he's less volatile too. I mean DJ is incredibly not volatile like his floor is just so freaking high He's so versatile course to course

Scottie was a great Really freaking perfect role player on this team like Like to go, you're gonna play your own ball and you're gonna play with Bryson. You do not have to carry this team. You are going to be this, you're gonna tee off first, you're gonna put one in play and he's gonna go pound driver and you guys are gonna route, pump up the crowd and then they got the perfect matchup for him. Getting a rested Scotty against World number one, nothing to lose. Guy that had played four matches,

everything fell the US's way. I mean, that was just so freaking perfect. That would be it. I guarantee when Europe saw that, they were just like not very happy about the way this line up shot. We even talked about like Porra Kalla yet. I know, they're so freaking good.

Like he's a, he's a, he's a dynamo for a course, like a European style course, right? He's, he's the ace in the, like ace up your sleeve. That's like straight up, like I think, Call him or call him. Am I not be the, like he, he, to me, he's like, I know, ROM's supposed to be like, I think Call him or call him, might be the best player in the world. Now that he's decidedly not, but I get, I like where you're going.

I think the best, I don't know. I don't know. When it all clicks, clicks like I'm not sure anybody's better. Especially when you take distance a little bit out of the equation. Yes. He's he's cat like. It's a little bit the way that TCO is talks about DJ like on any given shot. He's could be the best but like I know that doesn't make sense and that's a bit but I feel that way with more kawa like, like the ceiling is unlimited. It's limitless. It's hard to explain.

When he's honest, like holy shit, like this is as good as it gets. Yeah. The way I think about Moorakawa and honestly about DJ2, their games and their shot shapes and styles, everything screams repeatable to me. Like it is all about, like I'm not going to hit a good shot five out of ten times. I'm going to hit a good shot like eight and a half out of 10 times. And that is, that's just like a floor that is so, so difficult to beat.

And just watching, how I feel about Ram too, like he is just a booey, like you cannot sink Ram. And he sunk today, but when Scotty was four up, I was just like, if we got a half out of this, that's still be great. Scottie wouldn't play good. Like, Ram didn't play bad. Exactly.

Scottie birdie five of the three. We're going to do it to a great train. I mean Brooks is a guy like, you know, I know he won this year and he's talking like he's coming back and everything, but you know, kind of back on the upswing. But you know, ended in the year probably world number 10 right now, second year in a row, he's probably going to be outside outside the top 10 in the world. Is he a guy that's kind of... Weirdly enough, this was one of his better years,

like his better years in performing outside of majors. Like usually it's, you know, whatever, and he brings it for the majors, but he played some of his best golf this year, actually, which is weird. Something else on the spieth, I think spieth, like between, it Swipe being pregnant and just the energy that it takes to get like to regain your form and get back to the top.

Like, you have to think that out of all these guys, like he's got to be the most exhausted because it takes so much more effort to get your form back than it does to get there in the first place, I think. Because you're so much more anxiety and mental pressure, back than it does to get there in the first place, I think. Because you're so much more anxiety and mental pressure, like, you're putting on yourself and everybody else is asking you for the last four years, what's wrong, what's wrong, what's wrong, what's wrong. And probably like the fear, yeah. Also, the fear of like, is it, you know, knowing the feeling of it going away, like always

wondering if it is about to go away again is a real thing But like on the European side like did we see Paul Casey's last last rider cup? He's 44. I don't think so just because of he went O and four the lack of the lack of depth coming behind him And the world like some of those guys that should be cycled out are probably gonna have to hang on for another one He's an OW jar beast like he's gonna going to qualify on World Point. He can't have that machine. Can I say something about Paul Casey? Yes, please. Pure outsider observation, right?

Like he should be one of the best players on the European team. You know, he sits in that press conference. He doesn't say much. I think he was asked one question. Like he's he's shockingly irrelevant to that team for, and it shouldn't be that way based on his, his resume and his profile. You talked to Caddy's out on the PGA tour and like,

there's like, just, they're so dismissive of him for what his talent level is of like, at like, if Paul Casey's ahead of you in the leaderboard, like, you're not scared in the least. And it's just, you know think for me it's like I think maybe like maybe I owe team rows in apology. Hmm. I think he would have only helped.

He would have only helped the cause. And it team rows and then and then another guy. Do I do I accept the apology? Well I have to take it to the the other members of the council. I'm thinking to the message board. To the message board to some of the other admins on the board. I'd like to talk to I'd like take it to the other members of the council. We'll bring it to the message board. Go to the message board. To some of the other admins on the board. I'd like to talk to him.

I'd like to talk to Morgan Stanley. I'd like to talk to you. I forget about Master of Master of Card. There's talk to Master of Card. Minobos, the Walton family. I need to talk to you. Zerick insurance. Zerick.

I need to know more free ads. Come on. Here comes the Dres all. Let's move on. I think the other guy that would have made a lot of sense on this team and probably makes sense moving forward. I don't think he's necessarily the best locker room guy, but as far as just straight up, looking for those guys and that one to two strokes game, Mike Wallace.

He could be that guy. Yeah. And not currently, but could be that guy. Well, that kind of speaks to something. We've said this throughout the week, but, Tron, I think you kept kind of hammering this, and I think it makes a ton of sense is, there's just so many guys on that,

when we're going to talk about, which we're going to talk about for the next two years, I have a feeling the lack of depth coming on the European team, like there's so many guys that should be there that aren't there. And it's... What about my Martin Kimer? Matt Wallace, Martin Kimer, I mean, Torbjorn Olison, where's Thomas Peters,

where's Col Sartz, where's all these guys that, you know, what you were saying is like, you just need a guy to have one good week. Like the guys we've seen have those good weeks and the guys we've seen pop up, they're not there, man. And that is tough, tough, tough. Which is like what Paul Casey went

on for this week, but in the right situation in the right situation, he could have been great for that team like with as a player and seven, eight with a good foursums partner like that would be a nightmare to go up against if they had the luxury of being able to you pair him with like in his prime stents in a rose or something like that. Go goes back to depth. Yes. And I think I mean, DJ made it a point to say that in his press. He's like, I had great partners this week, which, you know, like, I think that was a

shot across about a coach. Amen. Amen. Thank you, TC. I will give you that. All right. So Casey. So I mean, Fitzpatrick continues to not really

do anything. He's had some shit luck. Man, I mean, luck. And I mean, yeah, pair with Westwood twice this week. That's not good. And that's tough takes burger to 18 and hits the worst shot. He probably hit all week. I really wanted that for Fitz. I really did. But I also had a wager on 19 to nine final score. So fleet would like he's he's a lock in my opinion. You guys that for fits. I really did. But I also had a wager on 19 to nine final score. So uh, Fleetwood, like he's, he's a lock in my opinion. You guys may not agree. He went O1 and two. So he seemed all, I mean, he just didn't seem like he don't have any. Honestly,

and I, I really like Fleetwood's vibe, but it's a bummer that he's a lock for the Euros because he's not playing good and he hasn't for two years, you know, and that's tough. I will say this, it is more dangerous to be like a lock that also might be kind of an anchor. Like you're gonna be on the team, but like you still have a glaring, like the putting thing with Fleetwood, not good. And like that is something that is really hard to look past

and hard to get around, right? Like you're gonna be on the team. We know that and we got I count on you having a week when, you know, it looks like this one. What qualification process could they possibly put in place where Fleetwood doesn't make the team right? And I'm saying he shouldn't be. No, I'm with you.

It's just yeah, it's US for decades had guys that were going to make every team and they were going to lose matches. Yeah. And it was like you can't justify taking them off the team like Jim Fierreck is one of the greatest players of all time. Like look, go back and look at his strokes game. It'll blow your freaking mind how that guy possibly had that rider cup record. But like you just have to figure out who those guys are and figure out how you're going

to play them. Like what they just drew up had did not have that luxury. And then I think Garcia, Haton, Hoavlan, Lowry, those guys are essentially locks to be on the next one. Garcia could age out. I mean, you know, you don't know when it goes. I wouldn't say Lowry's a lock. I think he did himself good service this week,

but like it's gonna be kind of form dependent. Havlan, I would say lock for sure. I would say that was Sergio, you know, tradition matters. It feels like with the Euros, you know, they love their storylines and their, you know, Steve, Bolescher Sergio, you know, tradition matters. It feels like with the heroes, you know, they love their storylines and their, you know, Steve Bolescheros, you know, they're going to give Sergio, unless he does something gerastic and just falls off the planet, like 100, it's almost like Poulter.

It's like, oh, wait, Sergio, we have, I mean, he's, I mean, he's one of the most matches in Ryder Cup history. Like, that is, he missed a year though, right? Like, they've kept them off a team before. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what you're doing. It's still when the most Matt. I think that I feel like we've been under talking about a little bit.

I also think that like his game is good. Just like a, you know, his game is not predicated. Isn't predicated upon putting it well. It's predicated upon ball striking. And that's which is great. Or that's good for long for. For Gen. Yeah.

And for team game, right? Like for it great. That's good for longevity. Yeah. And for team game. Right? Like for it is. It's good for force. Like he paired up great with Ron for forcems. But I said this last night, like his four ball game yesterday, not great. And I did not feel good about him going into singles today. He lost. So Sergio's not he is not for no Sergio anymore. He can play that forcems role. And they needed to kind of ride him a little bit heavier this week. But I't, I did not fear Sergio on his own ball today. He's not a guy where it's like he can't be the third best guy or no, no, no, no, no team. They left him off in 2010. I would say, you know what's cool? Sitting on again in the press conference, you get little nuggets that maybe I would have missed otherwise. And I think it's more specific to team Europe.

The lineage, Neil, that you touched on with the Spanish players. Like it's really fun. And you could tell Rom, like it meant a ton for Rom to play with Sergio, who then links back to Olethorbal and Balistero's. Like it's a fun little tree. It's almost like your big and little and like a fraternity almost.

And you have that by country on the European side. And you have that like by country on the European side, and it's maybe not as prevalent on the American side, but seeing Ram talk like that about Sergio, like it hits you like, yeah, man, like that's, so there's natural, right? You're absolutely right, man. It's real and big and little. It's actually before the Big Brother,

little brother program, right? There's a lot of that going around this Ryder Cup. I stood with 17 team, Rahm was kind of right there getting interview by a couple of people and he kind of walked over and I was like, hey, great play in this week. And I think he thought I was getting ready to be media and like interview him.

And he just immediately went into like, you know, I really honestly got to tell you like getting to play with Sergio this week was like one of the highlights of my career. Like that was, that was, like, I forget exactly how he phrased it because I was not Johnny notes down I was just cut a you said it again in the press conference. I know But he was funny. He's ever had a lot of his ways getting like kind of emotional just like that like he like Between you and I

Between this in the US open this US open does not even compare oh, yeah I mean like it's just a totally and look at how they can just look at well just look at Roy's interview and like how what this means these guys said the same thing which I was surprised here he said this was the best week of his golfing life and what because price and embrace the crowd and had fun with it and was like approachable and likable and that's a separate topic. It should take notes. It gives these guys such a good, like a way to get to know each other. Yes. Right?

Where like, there's, you know, their growth is lonely. There were rumors before the week that like, oh, like, ramen surgery, I don't like each other, right? Like, you know, and it's like, well, evidently they do now. Yeah.

Progom is what I'm saying. But I think that's really well said. And Brooks, and I'm, you know really well said and Brooks and I you know Whatever with the Brooks price and thing at this point like Brooks legit went up to Bryson after his mat like after he'd made it back to 18 after his match and gave him like It was caught on camera, but I watched it happen. I didn't realize there was a camera there and It felt pretty real it felt like like we're on the same team man like great fucking play in like daps I don't know it just like that part felt a little bit real, in terms

of just like, what bring, what this event brings out of people, man. But I, I, I've rave about this event, like, at, at nauseam. This was your guys first time experiencing it. Did you, did you get that sense at, at this being something like that just makes all other golf events look pretty silly? It's hard when it's a blow. I think I think we got a hint of it or we got a preview of it But it like like DJ said it wasn't the full yeah experience just cuz it was it was so I'm one down. Yeah, and not having a larger continued contingent of Euro fans there was for me You know, I didn't feel like there was enough

It wasn't juice enough juice back and forth. Like that's my favorite part of going to a sporting event sometimes is seeing the interaction between the two teams. And then also I think the course coding I walked out to all the way out to 13 as far as we could and it just got a sense of how out and in the property was and how I couldn't hear any, not only because none of the euros were winning, but the US is winning. I couldn't hear any roars.

There was no, it's collective, there wasn't a collective home of like it's an arena of some kind, it was much more like I'm out on a hike and it's a really busy trail. That's how I kind of felt. I think to answer your question, I can see why it is, but I don't, like these guys said, I think some answer your question, I can see why it is. But I don't like these guys said, I think some of the factors outside of any control may be prevented it, but absolutely

I can see why it is. The most powerful thing for me, I said it earlier, was seeing the teams up close as a unit in those press conferences and seeing what it meant to the Americans to win and how, you know, little kid-ish they were and how bummed and like the Euros were devastated, which is, you know, that's why we watch, right? That's why they play. It's great. I would love to go to one in Europe, I think would be a must and I would love to not as fun they lose.

I would love to see one at a different venue venue just for all the reasons you guys are mentioning. But yeah, of course it was like that's all relative, right? Like of course it was spectacular. And like what I'd rather go there or you know the Valspar no offense to the Valspar like who's going to catch straight. It's sorry. Having gone to both unfortunately I would give the tip to Whistling Strait. It's not only weak of like it's the most fun event to think about four months in advance, two years, here we can talk about team two years in advance. I just that whole dynamic is like, I'm just kind of a may, the more I think about

the more amazed I am at like the lack of of of all of the capitalization of golf, the lack of people capitalizing on the team dynamic of golf. And that the presence cup is a product of that right? Ryder Cup success breeded the president's cup But like man, how have we not figured out more team golf hold on. I want to Cody I'm gonna call you in come come on take my seat for a sec I want you first first Ryder Cup Cody as well. Let's get his takes you've heard you're all all for me

Hello Let's get his takes you've heard you're all all for me. You've heard enough for me. Hello. Hello I do think the news got a juke the week is long It's too long it shouldn't start until like when like like open practice rounds and previews and all that like Shouldn't start till Wednesday because by the time we got to Wednesday night Thursday morning It's like holy shit. Is the golf gonna start yet? Well, that's what I was almost gonna say is it's presence cup does that well. It's it's hashtag monetized. I mean, it feels there's some fake juice out there. Yeah, it is that there's squeezing every penny out of it. And you can feel that.

And some of it feels dare I say it's a little performative. And that's what I worry about it going forward is there's so many hype films, there's so many packaging of feelings and moments and all these things that like what we saw from Rory was very real, what we saw from Polter was very real. I think there was probably a lot of, there's a lot of performative stuff too, and I don't want the scales to tip in that way, and I do worry about that a little bit. Practice rounds were cool until you realize that you do them on Tuesday, on Wednesday, on Thursday, and most of the time they're only playing nine holes anyway, so we're out there

for three hours and then you turn around and come back and sit in this awesome RV and think, you know, what the heck are we doing here? When are we actually going to see a shot? And there's only 12 guys in the course, Max. Yeah. You know, 16 guys in the course max or you know 16 guys in the course max. I thought the rider cup was was awesome. Did it live up to my expectations? No, but I don't think a lot of things in life ever do. And that's that's on me, man. I'm the first to admit

that. But it was cool to see a big team event. And obviously I love the results. And I hope the the boys are partying their ass off tonight because they deserve it You know, I obviously want the Europe, you know European team to play a little bit better So it's a little bit more of a fight, but like that takes nothing away from the overall competition This course itself just didn't really set up the way that I think we all wanted it to and when we talk about an arena like in terms of a close competition You mean yeah, right absolutely like you, one type of player really strives here and unfortunately that fits more the American team, not the European team. The arena is, you know, there's a lake on one side and like massive man-made hills on the other like. Man-made natural.

Of course, of course. Shout out Pida. But like, it doesn it doesn't it just didn't it was horrible Spectating we can get in and I hope we have to talk because we talk coverage Saw coverage here for the morning. We will like that monetization yeah, that was horrible. So I mean overall do I want to come back? Absolutely, I can't wait to go and see an overseas you know Rome's gonna be sick but think about like like I think This is like almost a good entry point and then we're gonna get thrown into the deep end in at Beth page. Oh Beth Page I

I am I don't know if I'm gonna go to I'm not even that excited for Beth page like if if like European players need to start preparing now For what they're gonna hear like you need it. It's gonna be oh I'm nervous about that one, I really am. Question for you real quick, because I think we stayed on the first tee, and then we went out to hospitality areas, and a couple of other media viewing areas, but you walked every single round, all three days,

and I hope your ankles are okay. If not, we gotta ice ice some free tonight, but There's a lot of talk out there about how bad the fans were and what they're saying to the European oh No, no, no, and I never heard any I was talking to after they said this was they said I think Hazel team was a total one off said this week was Absolutely spectacular out there. Correct. Fans were so courteous. Not only that, bringing it like,

they were talking about like Midwest hospitality and everything like that and how people were kind of overly nice. So I don't know, maybe you saw something out there? No, no, no. Hazelteam was a, there was a fervor in the air. Like it was a, especially, I'm not joking. PJ Willett, his letter, like,

riled the crowd up to the point where like they fell sick It was their god given right to just harass players like I'm not I'm not exaggerating just a very close up Like like the players walked between crowds at Hazel team was very different Everything was set further back this time around so it was very intimate Roy's walking between holes and somebody like really really close It was very intimate. Roy's walking between holes and somebody, like really, really close. He goes, sup my dick, Roy!

Yes! And that was like one of the things that actually made Roy stop. But the rest of it was happening on repeat. This week was just kind of like, the way I characterized it is like Wisconsin fans are, you know, they are football fans at heart and like they are gonna kind of cheer.

Like there were a lot more booze when the players walked out It's kind of lighthearted. It's whatever but they they love to get in like their little jab that really isn't very funny But it's like very sports related like your shoulders might be broad But you can't carry the whole team wrong But like and really laughing it up with your buddies around you. But there was nothing personal, there was nothing, you know, it was one tenth maybe of the harassment and jeering at Hazeltine, I would say.

Good to know. So that way. Which I think it's all pretty lame. Like I don't, I don't like rush to my defense of the American fans in any way, but this, like if you thought this was bad, Hazeltine was way worse. What's the, what's the cheering group called the American fans in any way. But this, like if you thought this was bad, Hazel team was way worse. What's the what's the cheering group called

the American American Marshalls? Tough scene. Like go away. Straight. That's Randy's life dream to become a American. Like some of the just like I was I was I was disappointed in the in the first T experience. I thought it was going to be a lot more turned up and a lot more natural.

And I hated it at the time, but I'm looking back at Hazeltein. There was one thing that made an enormous difference. And one, I don't even know, was golf channel covering like the first tee build up or anything? Because in 2016, they had a guy there that was like, all right, back from commercial in 10, get ready.

And like everyone would just go freaking nuts and the camera would pan, but it just got the energy up. And like then from there on, then the old lay would come out and people would start one up in each other. There was no organization of the cheering, which kind of sucks. As I say, that out loud that you need that. But apparently the American fans or the Wisconsin fans needed that because it was the afternoon where much better buzz, but the mornings were better at Hazel's buzz is a good work.

Yeah, so that's how it's flowing. Tell you what they need. They need the soccer, the flares and the smoke that they use in soccer. Well, in the chance, you know, those are the best, those are the best chance. I'm just point they didn't get a little local flavor. We couldn't have gotten like a jump around at some point in the US stands on the first tee. You know, they need a little music between groups and I'll say one other thing that I from Hazel team that helped was the bleachers Were not totally enclosed so you entered from the right and you followed this walkway that had four it was 40 rose deep of people

So there was a buzz as you turn the corner of like oh here comes read I can tell because they're cheering out here And when you entered the arena the eruption was just freaking electric and this the corner of like, oh, here comes Reed, I can tell, because they're cheering out here. And when you entered the arena, the eruption was just freaking electric. And this was kind of like, people would come through and enter, and it was kind of be a surprise. And they were like, oh, it's different. It's very different. But it's about Bryson driving the first green

and making Eagle today. We could hear that Cody and I were on a little bit of a walk about. We realized we were mostly camped out at the first tee, or in hospitality. We hadn't really seen much of the golf course that we went and walked the front nine. We were what, back over by like four green, when that happened, you could tell exactly what happened. Yeah, you were. It was like literally like, it was Augusta style, the way they talk about Augusta,

it was the veracity of that roar was like, oh my god, Bryson just drove the first green. And then everybody that we're walking through that had handhelds are like, oh, he's going crazy, dude. Yeah, he walked off the first tee with a putter it had garnished it from the ground. That was actually the coolest thing Bryson's ever done. Next to driving over the water at Bay Hill, that was pretty freaking sick.

There was a lot more risk in that. I said this last night, I'll say it again for people who didn't listen, but I hope Bryson's takeaway from this week was like, man, that was really fun having everybody on my side. Like, maybe I don't need to, you know, it's easier said than done, I'm not in his position I know, but it doesn't need to be adversarial, right? You don't need to put up walls,

and you also need to let go of the idea that you're gonna control what everyone and everyone, like what everybody's thinking at all times or saying at all times, you're not gonna be able to do that. Rory doesn't try to do that, Spieth doesn't try to do that. Just lean in, man, they're gonna say what they're gonna say. Just fucking deal with it and be a human being.

I have zero faith in any of that. That is good. I enjoyed a fun week of Bryson. Very obvious. Less from this. I enjoyed it. It was a fun week for Bryson. That was awesome to watch and play well.

I gave him a lot of flack for all the two of days. He was doing long drive. Guy went out and played. It showed up. He went to 0 and 1. He played his role to perfection. I will say, I tweeted this earlier too. It was like, if this was a major,

he would have missed the cut this week. Like, he was not always on the planet, but like played the golf when he needed to. It was a great four ball partner and took care of business today. I think that the parallel between like watching all the fans and hearing the fans chant his name when he gets heckled at normal events

with a different name was just really interesting to me. It was like, I don't know, it was awesome. And yeah, I don't think it's gonna, it was a great jab. Somebody, I forget, I don't even remember what the question was in the press or afterward. You know, somebody asked a question and it was directed at Bryce and he's like,

why are you asking me? And Speed just grabbed the mic and he's like, yeah, cause you haven't done media in three months. It was pretty perfect. It was about being one of the rookies on the team. And how did you feel being in, you think if it led up to expectations for it? And it was directed at him.

Oh, well, yes, I loved it. And I can only take his words as truth. And he said, yeah, I loved this amazing event. I played, well, great crowds, great team, great captain. And I have something coming up in a couple of days that I'm getting ready to. So I'm not going to drink that much tonight. So you're right. I wish you would think more and hopefully his memories flood back of this as a positive experience.

Unfortunately, he's already on to the next. He can't get out of his own way like that. But that's fine. It's, it's, it's good for him this week and just wear a normal hat. his own way like that. But that's fine. It's good for him this week. And just wear a normal hat. We're good with that. That was probably the biggest takeaway. Which is like, when you don't look like a did-shit.

Yeah. You're not as big of a target. I'm ready to get back to normal though, and like, everybody should some price. Yeah. Because it, like, oh, he's just, I just can't do it, man. And like, this this was empty cat. It was icing, right?

It was like, hey, this is ice cream, or this is something sweet and sugary and stuff like that. And it's like, Bryce, and at some point, you need to be a substantive member of golf world. You can't just be this dipshit side show over here. And I did see his TikTok boys. Yeah, like the like his TikTok, his four TikTok friends are just standing off to the side, you know, behind 18 green. And I was like, all right, cool. Like you're still Bryson. And then know I beat this drum into the, and beat this into the earth. But

like if Bryson has to play the role of fourth best player on the team, how different this week probably would have gone for him. But like, just sitting out two sessions and playing the exact role, let him thrive. Two quick stats. US automatic qualifiers went 17, three and two. And look at the captain's picks actually went like 10, eight and something like that. The all three guys that had losing records were captain's picks, which I still will stand by were good picks good picks. And then the rookies 14, 4 and 3. Got like dudes have never played in the Ryder Cup before. We're not doing that. You guys want to do player grades? Do we do? Do we do? Do we eliminate people off the European team? Yeah, so going through the promise we don't know who we're going to replace. All right, so Rory's obviously on.

I'm kind of the point where, like if the course is what we think it is over in Italy, Polter might get another shot at this. He could. Right? Well, you talk about Polter's comments afterwards, because that made me feel some things. Yeah, absolutely so post press conference, clearly an emotional

Ian Polter asked a great question about, you know, kind of what this week meant and the results as they speak for themselves, but what that means for his future. And he said, yeah, this morning, Amy and Luke and I were in the car driving up. It was about a 20 minute drive. We got in the car and it was dead silent. And nobody really said anything. And it kind of set into all of us that this is the last time that I'm ever going to take this drive to an event that means so much to me in my career.

He really is a player who base everything on the Ryder Cup. He's had OK performances in majors before. He's one other big tournaments on the PGA tour and European tour, but this is it for a guy like him. And this is what he lives for. And to hear him say, I know that this is my last shot was crazy to hear and seeing him get choked up about it.

And the follow up question of that was about how this week went and really about Padrik. And I think TC mentioned it earlier, but about, you know, the guys coming together as a team, clearly supporting him and hoping that the media back home do not write this as a loss on their captain. You know, it definitely wasn't their fault. But incredible to hear that come from Ian, who is just a stalwart for every European tour, you know, European team that they've had. And Lee West would kind of said the exact same thing. And it's interesting to see them kind of realizing at the moment like this is, this is probably it. This is the last time. And they're the

way that they're going out probably isn't the way that they wanted to do it. But that's just the way the life is. And both one that matches today. True. Which is like, that's pretty friggin' nuts. The dudes in their 40s for Europe went out in one, probably their last match. But I mean, Westwood could have avoided seven straight losses also, and his rider cut career. That's good.

Pulse is 45. I mean, I think this was clearly Westwood's last shot. I could see Pulse, I mean maybe he feels like he doesn't have that much more in the tank. Maybe he feels differently, but just on a different course like Italy, I could see him, kind of giving another go or having almost like a weight off his shoulders because he's put so much emphasis on making this team. But he starts playing playing well. And then obviously Rob and then we spurger, which, you know, I don't think, I don't think we spurger like embarrassed himself this week. I think you played better than his record, probably indicated, but still I went

three zone three, you know, I think Guido Mighliazi is on for the 24. I hope you he's Italian. You got to have you got gotta have an Italian on the team Rasmus Hogar just won on the same course. Mm-hmm. You know who would be Nicola Hogar as well 20 years completely speaking. I might ask I think he's down He's toiling away in the challenge tour now the guy that I'm riding don't say it. Do we song no Mateo man. I'm gonna say it. I could be fucking awesome. Yes, that's that was my Dude when he was he was coming out of like the British am wins and stuff He was awesome and yeah, I just completely lost it

But I hope he's got two years two years a long time you guys said so yourselves big Bob Well, they do a lot of our right. I think I think Francesco started to find a little form this year But of course fit. I think Francesco started to find a little form this year. Better course fit. I think he'll keep, keep coming. But yeah, I think, you know, they just, what they really need is Holland to take a step and like be, you know, a rom level player. Right? Yeah. And Roy, well, yeah. And then the elephant, they're all.

I feel like all the like the first half hour of those, like, they need like eight better dudes. Did this what I'm kind of bummed about but we'll see. Did Rory interview today which we've talked about but not directly just you know crying talking about how much this event needs to them. Did it make you view anything differently from that we've seen from him in the last six, nine months? I think it just crystallized a lot for me. It just summed up a lot, which was one, there you go, man, there's the proof of, I'm not meaning to mean anything, shout out to the Valspar. I'm not meaning to shit on anything, but it's like,

I like the people, the Valspar. I love the Valspar. No, the Valspar is great. Talk about the Honda, or... Okay, no offense to people, the Honda. He's not even playing the Valspar. Or the Honda. But that's one where it's like hey man like here's the stuff he cares about here's the stuff he doesn't care about and and the fact that he

shows up to this one a event that can move him to tears for feeling like he let his team down and he can't summon it and he can't rise to the occasion. He's fucking a huge bummer. That's so depressing to me. I feel like it was a accumulation of like, I let myself down for most of this summer. But now like my bad play is like hurting my team. And it just like boiled to like, oh, what the fuck am I doing, man? And I think there's a ton of both very practical and very existential things we could read into for that.

I mean, he's still probably making swing changes, right? I don't know what the Pete Cowan stuff is all about, but I think he's still going through some of that. I think he's trying to figure out how to be a dad. I think he's trying to figure out how to be a massive celebrity in 2021. I think he's trying to figure out how the world of golf is changing with distance and all of those different things. He's trying to be the principal. He's trying to be the old PGL stuff is all going like he probably got wrapped up in all that stuff. I mean, he just

is he looks like a guy who is getting pulled in 8,000 different directions and just kind of doesn't know which way is up but knows that he really wanted to play well this week and didn't. You know, and that just like is really heartbreaking. So what is he changed? What do you recommend? I mean, far be it for me to like, he shouldn't listen to anything. I say his shoulder. Yeah, exactly. What I would love to see, I don't know if this makes sense for him, but like what I would love to see is just shut it down, man. And just don't go play the Middle East stuff. Go be out doing golf pass stuff or optum stuff or like just shut down, go take some time,

go play like fun golf with your boys. Go like, or don't play any golf at all. Or go be a dad, go be like at home, go just shut down like and miss it, right? And then turn up at Bay Hill and start prepping for the masters and you're probably playing some of the better golfers. and then he's like, and he's like, and he's like, and he's like, and he's like, and he's like, and he's like, and he's like,

and he's like, and he's like, and he's like, and he's like, and he's like, and he's like, and he's like, and he's like,

and he's like, and he's like, and he's like, and he's like, and he's like, and he's like, and he's like, and he's like,

and he's like, and he's like, and he's like, and he's like, and he's like, and he's like, and he's like around anymore. You know, and it's like, it's a huge bummer. I don't think, I think he proved today, I mean, it's not a lack of caring, right? At stuff like this, it's not a lack of, which is, that was the question. Yeah, well, we need to see those signs, and maybe it's not a lack of caring, but it could still be a lack of preparation

or a lack of, like, that doesn't excuse him or absolve him from maybe not being as engaged or a lack of like that doesn't excuse him or absolve him from maybe not being as engaged or as energized about playing golf and maybe he's made some of these changes Last year and like speed they have yet to take hold right? You got to lay the foundation for this stuff and it'll take a year or two I think where I get most concerned with the Rory is like he played 17 events in 2020 He played 21 events this year plus a rider cup. Like he's not playing, like, he's got 30, you know, 30, 30, 32 weeks at home.

And that's where I think, and that's where I'm like, what the fuck, man, like, why are you so burned out? No, I know, exactly, but that's where I think it, it almost is like, I don't know, you can burn yourself out just by constantly. I'm not turning off. Yeah, he's just like like he's so self-aware and so analytical and so like human Right that you can just I think you can just burn yourself out by spinning your gears constantly, right?

And I don't think it's that's what sucks and that's where it turns into like oh fuck man Like that's what the money's for glory like you're only playing 20 events like just sack up It's like, dude. it's not that simple. Like that's, that's like a lot of the mental health shit that all these other athletes are talking about, right? It's like you can't just turn it off. It doesn't work like that. And I think he's just tough to watch.

He's gotten better at the corporate commitments. Like, so I've heard like where he's basically said, hey, I want set of endorsement deal where you pay me money. Like either I get equity or it's an investment or like I'm not doing it right and it's I think he's trying to not chase Sense he's trying to you know very very you know be very picky there. I also think like 28 and 2019 he played 25 events each of those years now it was highly successful in 2019 one four times

I always go back to like, what was the, the famous thing where he was talking about how many off days he had that one year? That was, that's been six or seven years now, probably, but when he was talking about like, oh, you know, and I thought was Ricky. Maybe it was. I think, I think, no, I think Roy had a similar number. And it was, I'm not going to quote it because I don't remember what it was, but it was a shockingly few amount of free days for for the calendar year and that was six or seven years ago And I guess like my whole thing is when is he like taking a break and caught up since then right like that that stuff almost seems I get started it almost seems like a snowball right like it just like this burnout

I'm calling it burn out, but like Whatever's going on with him just seems like it's been accumulating. And I just don't see when that like hard reset has ever come. I think part of him thought, I will get the rhetoric up week and this whole thing would, I'll channel something. I'll summon something and it didn't happen and just kind of broke him a little bit. I think also like it's got to be, maybe it's just a factor of the way the schedule worked as well, where I know there's a host of guys like this that they've, like, you know, when the masters is in November and you're this time, it's all this time that you've had set aside for, you know, just hanging, like hanging out with your family and turning it off gets kind of flipped on its side. Like, he's

still catching up from that as well. So I think that's probably a big big factor. It's just glad to see he's like it's glad to see the passion and the like the passion and the deep down caring is there. So some folks in the chat wondering about a caddy change for Rory or team change. What do you guys think about that? Uh, yeah, I floated that in the past in that I cannot effectively say in any way that Harry is a bad caddy. They have one together. They've had great success together. They have one major together.

But by all, like, Rory made that move after firing JP to say, like, you know what? I kind of wanted to take more of the responsibility on myself. Like, he, I was there the first week I think that Harry was on the bag. He said, like, I'm getting my own yardages now. Like I, you know, I'm more plugged into my own game instead of having like a reason, like someone to blame right next to me. It's on me now.

And it's been several years now. And I, it may be time for him to reassess that I don't, I can't say definitively, but it, it, you know, that, that change has worked for him in the past. It's helped him reset in some way. So that's a fair question to ask. Obviously, we could never know the answer to that. I could never say definitively yes or no that he should. But I think with based on what he said in the past about it, I think if that would provoke

a change in mindset of some way, they'd be worth exploring. But doesn't the fact that he's the best friend, the best player of his generation? Yes. That's exactly what I was going to say. He's like, doesn't, doesn't that fact that he's the best player of his generation? And he's having his best friend, Cady for him, scream like, yo, I'm pretty fucking lonely out here by myself. And like, yeah, we know, we know this too, too like we're friends, but sometimes like it's

so you want to take your best friend with you and that's awesome because you want to spend a ton of time with him, but now he's like like you're also his boss now man. It's weird. It changes the relationship and I agree with you if Rory says that having Harry there is is better and that's you know he's fine with that. That's great, but it just blows my mind that I can't, I can't see past the fact like having bones or Timmy or Joey Likava or any other like he literally could get any caddy that he wanted in the world wouldn't be better than Harry.

Truly don't know. I want to make it very, very, very clear that like, this is like on Rory, right? It's not on Harry in any way. Absolutely. And I almost think if it's a Catti or like a surrounding team, I almost think fixing the team is probably more important than fixing the Catti right now.

If he's done that too though, with talent. And I mean, like your manager and your business relationships and all of that, like if again, I think we're very much speculating here, but if it's burnout and fatigue and like Roy needs to own it, but if his team's not willing to adapt to like what he needs right now, I think that's the most important change and then that flows to his golf. I think trying to bandaid the golf right now is I think that's the most important change. And then that flows to his golf. I think trying to band-aid the golf right now is, you gotta start from the first. If you get a truly burnout and mentally exhausted,

like that's the most important thing. Instead of the pause button. Yeah, right. And that's, yeah, like I said, we're kind of out of our depths on speculation there, but just, and I've not even heard him specifically reference burnout, but like, like, some summing up all of his comments, it certainly seems like that's something.

It just doesn't add up, right? Like, there's something, it just, it doesn't, uh, like you should be able to hit wedges. I, I don't know why. It's what the hell is going on. Like that, that seems like something that should have been fixed over the last six years. Right.

Somebody tweeted something about like, this was actually really so much less disappointing this week because like you weren't as tied into him hitting a bad wedge wasn't going to run this round. And I think you also see that it's not like we joke about it all the time, but the Thursdays at the majors, right, was it clicks as soon as he's out of contention or as soon as he has it's almost like this yet, right? And it's like, dude, that's where it just feels so mental. It feels like it's not a physical thing. Everybody reacts to parenthood differently too.

And we always say, oh, the baby in changes and time investment that that takes and how that takes time away from other things in your life and everything. Look at the transformation in roms since having a kid. It's crazy. It's like made him like hyper focus on what he needs to and still like give time to what's important to him and his wife and their young baby and everything.

Like it's amazing to see the differences in some people's mentality between the two. Neil, Neil apologized earlier for DJ. I'd like if you guys would allow me a lot of people ask me about rom this week. Yeah. I'd like to apologize. Thank you. I'd say officially that Ron does not stink. There you go.

Wow. And, and Cody, I don't, who he has been the last eight months as a person, like I love that guy. And I feel confident like that wasn't quite who he used to be And so I feel not like validated but for wrong. Okay, so I feel like had he had he been saying this and and like I'm Majorly like attracted rooting for that guy, but I'm on board now. He doesn't think so the thank you Wow, thank you. That's so brave of you. It seemed like you showed me the way. Thank you There's been a definite evolution as a human in it.

It's just like just being a person, a person, a job, right? Yeah. Before and now, yeah, he just seems much more thoughtful. He still came right up to me. He's like, hey, whoever's running your Twitter needs to stop giving me such a hard time. I was like, it's me. What are you talking about?

I'm not as good. Yeah. I can't tweet that every day, man. Come on. So let's do great. I think one last thing on Rory. I mean, like barring something crazy, this will be, he's ranked 15th in the world right now.

This will be his lowest rank in the world since 2008 at the end of the season. But I do think there's an interesting transformation from his takes on the rider cup When he kind of came out to now, right? That's you know He like it seems like he is yearning for something bigger than himself or bigger than this quest for Individual majors or individual glory. He's beat down by the repetitive nature of professional 72 hell struck by golf I got in that just a recurring like human theme, right? Yeah.

When you climb the mountain, you get it all and you look around like, well, I'm not okay now. And speaking, we were talking about this with Andy Johnson this week too of like, I do not have kids, but the interesting perspective between Ram, Ram having a baby and Rory having a baby and how that's related to their game. And that Ram is not a corporation yet. Ram is not have just half a billion dollars in the bank or whatever Rory has.

He does not have four majors. He has not fully accomplished when it comes to the game of golf. And he has played the season with a fervor and a hunger that is unparalleled, which is where when you get to Rory, you have all the money you could ever possibly have, your daughter's, daughter's daughter is probably set for life. You've accomplished so much in the sport, like you have this new thing in your life.

How, and it's not about practice time, but it's simply the question, like how can golf matter as much to you as it once did? How can it? It can't, right? Unless you're a kind of borderline psychopath, and that's part of his problem as he's not a psychopath.

Yeah. So, can't buy time. I mean, it just goes to show you, it's almost like the worst that he plays or the more that we care, the more that, because I think he is such an endearing, like a great guy. I was so critical in last night.

I was like, hey dude, like quiparing like great guy. I was so critical and last night I was like hey, dude like quit playing like a bitch like Just cuz it's like I love watching you play carefree golf and I want to see that again Watching him selfish. Yeah watching him for it play at Hazel teen was like the most fun golf I've ever witnessed and I was rooting like against him, but like not even like I was I love I'm always room for the US team, but I love watching great competition, and that guy was not showing up. So you kind of said it earlier, but the,

I almost kind of written them off in the majors from a personal viewing standpoint, because I'm like, dude, all right, you know what, if you're not gonna show up, then that's fine. We've got ROM, or more, Kawa, or SPEF, or JT, or Dustin, or whatever. There's plenty of other guys to watch, whatever. But a Ryder Cup without like Swaggy Rory is.

They ain't the same. Take it away. Not interested. Let's do some grades. You ready? Let's go. Let's start with the US team. Give us the records as well.

OK. And I want to be, we can't, we, A's are got to be tough earned. OK. We got a grade. We got one of those professors. We got a grade, you know, a grade I want to be, we can't, we, A's are gotta be tough earned, okay? We got a great, we got a great, you know, a great, you want to curve, if you will, but he's a good score, he's above average. He's a very good score. He's a very good score.

Inflations and epidemics. C is not a failure. C is just okay. So Daniel Berger went two and one. I'm gonna say B minus. That's exactly what I was saying. He gave him a C plus. Okay.

Just because I thought, you know, he kind of flipped it there down the stretch, but he hit some really, really bad shots on Thursday down the stretch. He did. Patrick Cantlay went 3-0 and 1. That's a bonafide A minus. A minus A.

4A. 4A. I mean, 4A would be like, I think DJ is the 4A. DJ is A plus. DJ is A plus. I think, 4A would be like... DJ's A+. DJ's A+. DJ's A+. I think Kalei's A-Mias. I think 4 and O would be an A. But it's not your grade.

That's fine. If you're an easy professor, that's fine. When Kalei did walk to the seventh tee today after just kind of watching the groups come through, I was like, oh god. I haven't even watched him play this week. Oh, holy shit, this team is really good. I just, a guy you didn't even, we barely even talked about him. At all this week and just went out and got him three and a half points.

Like, what a freaking luxury. Bryson, DeChambo, 201. I'm gonna give him a B. That's exactly what I was gonna say. His electricity gives him another half a grade. And not being in master of radiation. Yeah, it's knowing, it's the knowledge of what could have been or what might have been if things went wrong.

And he kept it in line. I'd say B plus. I mean, I think he's done more. You could talk to him. You could talk to him. And pumping everything up this entire event is been because of Bryson and what he's done so B plus You could talk me into that

Harris English one and two See minus I give him just a flat C flat C that's fair. Okay. Why? What do you want to give him? D I mean anybody could done what he did I Thought he played like if we're if we're being like no great inflation just straight up like anybody could have done what he did. I thought he played some plug-in for it for being like no great inflation just straight up like anybody could have come here and done what he did. Probably. I think he had some good like some big shots and some big spots like yesterday on 18.

Because things could have gotten a little bit squirrely yesterday afternoon if the year has go 40, get all the momentum going into singles. I think maybe because he and Fino went out on that first afternoon and kind of drilled the nail into the coffin on that afternoon and we're like, the dudes coming off the bench, getting that energy. The two matches he lost were already when it was kind of pretty much decided. So, I'm great and maybe a little bit on a curve there. That'd be my answer. So that brings us to Fino, which I think is probably,

I would give him, similar a little bit better just for us, just for some energy. He was so good on Friday. He carried them on Friday too, so any objections to that? No, no, yeah, that's fine. Dustin Johnson, A plus plus.

A plus plus. Five and no. Validatorian can't do any of that. And in a solid B plus for the tight 10 minutes that he's going to do with the Hollywood bull next week. Brooks, Capca, two and two. I'm going to say B. Yeah. Speed was a carcass that when he played with him, he played awesome today. Was just kind of okay with burger, but I think overall solid contributor.

And I think didn't go up at least once up against wrong twice. So yeah, so and you got to give him a little credit for like, you know, not being a dick to price in the whole time. Yeah, he made sure to bring that up in the press of the game. I too lost this word to run to be clear. Call on more, Kawa, three, oh, and one. I give him an a-monus a a Yeah, a a for me I mean the only thing keeping from an a for me is the fact that he Have his singles. Yeah, he went up against hovelyn. They had a great match

Definitely definitely an a for me, but I would say he may get suspended for underage drinking after what I saw in the Post-Round Pressors older brothers corrupting isn't it? No doubt learn some new bad words. Neil, for years, is going to keep crowbarring this. Big brother's a little brother's program. Remember me? Programming. There you go. Zander Shoffley, 3-1.

Zander, I'd give a B plus. I'm going to say A minus. I don't think I can give him an A your name minus just because Rory went out and beat him this morning and like I you know, I thought that was an honor for Zander It was it was a credit to Zander that striker sent him out first It's credit to Roy that he you know, yeah, he didn't answer the bell today I I am grading 90% of your grade was determined before the final exam I would say,

because I think if you contributed greatly to putting this out of reach, get it before singles, which you definitely did. Scotty Schaeffler, 2001. Hey, I think an A for A minus I would say. I mean he played good with in four ball with Bryson and he played freaking great today, which was awesome. I think you gotta give him the benefit of the doubt because he probably took on the toughest assignment. 100% agree. Right, where like Bryson's in his pocket on somebody's home.

Yeah, that's very true. That's very true. It's more of a pressure on the other guy. Very true. Jordan's beef, one, two, and one. See minus. Very true. Jordan's beef, one, two, and one. C-. Yeah, I think with his expectations, like considering the expectations, putting it all in context, I'd say C-. Yeah. Maybe be lower if it was anything else. That's probably being pretty nice, I think. I think he probably, you know, is intangible,

but I think he probably carries a little weight as they were talking in the presser about like emotional leader and stuff. I feel like when you go back to, you know, all these guys kind of know each other since grade school and all that stuff like Jordan is. He's very the dude. Yeah, he's the leader of that group. Yeah, whether he's out there pumping his chest as much or saying as much in the press or any of that stuff, I mean, he's, if they look up to a guy in that peer group, I feel like it's got to be him.

I go on record. I'm on record. This is like the fifth time I've said it. I like, I want to see him play with other people besides Justin Thomas. He played with Kessout with Brooks. I know, but like just in that, in that first day, right? Like, you know, where, I don't know, I just don't think that's, that's just not my favorite group for him. They were awesome in France. I wanna see him with big tone. Again, I'm banging the drum on that. Justin Thomas, the lot running out the US team,

two one and one. B. I'd say B, B-minus would have been the play and then B with like, one of the few guys that like, try to get, made extra effort to get the crowd involved in it. European side Paul Casey, O and four. F. He gets to see for me if you can read into that.

I'd give him a D. I mean he didn't win a point, but he didn't play horrific. He had some tough matchups too. Well I'm not giving even an F I'll give him a D minus. That's amazing. That matchup. Yeah, but I'm not even an afloat. I give him a D minus It's both yeah, Randy. I mean passing isn't I think I think kind of what I touched upon earlier just the whole The whole deal take it away. Yeah, I'm flunk him. Yeah, I want to see him. Thank you You skipped somebody on the US side who does good griller? You skipped somebody on the US side who does get a griller? Griller my gift a for alpha. I give him an a for just shit talking tron all week every time I saw him was like

You're trying to fuck off yet Texting all day yesterday. You seen enough yet, Ron Come back home. You haven't fun over there on your European vacation Dip shit, Matthew Fitzpatrick, oh and three. That's, that's, yeah. I'm giving Matthew Fitzpatrick an F. Any, any non F is, is mercy rule I feel like, right? Like, play with Westwood twice. It bad, it bad group partners.

He was stuck doing all the work. Uh, you're talking me, I would say it was D minus. You know, they have pass fail classes and they like pass D-fail. I think it's like a D because he, yeah, he, he's talking in office hours to the professor like, well, I mean, my partner, he's just didn't show up like, he's doing all the work myself and the professor like, all right, you got to, you got to, he's at least going to class. Yeah, right. Where like, are we changing the grade if he doesn't chunk his probably gets into the faster?

Not totally in consequential. Yeah, he wanted it. Yes, because he really wanted it. He didn't quit on that. Yeah, he played two rider cups. Hasn't won a point. Yeah, it stinks. Yeah, he has played two rider cups on courses that are just nightmare fits for him.

Like it sucks. No, no, no, He's not going away. He will be on the next two- I want to see him play in Europe. He deserves to play in Europe. The fact that they left him off in France, he's like, makes zero sense. Yeah, they really blew that, that, that, that,

that writer cup. Tommy Flea would, oh one and two. I think, grading on a, uh, Seamon. Yeah, I was gonna say C, C-minus. Tommy Fleetwood oh one and two I Think Grading on a see mine. Yeah, I was gonna say see see mine. It's just grading on a curve, right? C plus I would say they're taking hard the records are gonna be tough They're playing much better opponents B plus ball striking D plus putting yeah, that's up to a C plus Yeah, I wouldn't even say ball striking wise. You can tell he doesn't have his A game. I think he clearly, I think the inside joke in the interview

was clearly telling me most of the guy naked or something in the team room. I think it was what they were. We got to know each other really well. Yeah, they kept saying that. They kept saying like, what's going to be your lasting memory? And then they all just laughed uncontrollably. Yeah, cobbling lost this one.

And then Rory was like, Rory's like, oh, I think it'd be a lot easier if he just showed you what the last thing memory was going to be. And then they started chanting Tommy's name. So that maybe bumps up to a C for me. Okay. Sergio Garcia, three in one. I think he gets an A. A minus. B plus, again, his record, he's played with John Rom a lot to help that record

a lot. He didn't do a lot in one of the matches. Yeah, he played good golf. I think in the pure evaluation though, I think Rom spoke glowingly of him. So take that for what it's worth. That helps. Thank you. Tirol Hatton one two and one c-minus yeah i'm down with that he had flashes of brilliance but just way too many very very bad holes you can tell he's one of those guys are like just wants to play so good too like loves this moment if he comes in with this game in the right form like he would be so good in this format victor hovlin o3 into

i think that's misleading i think it's better than his record. I think so too. You played all five sessions. You know, I have the singles match. Had some pretty tough assignments. Yep. I'll give him a C. C. Yeah. Solid C. He was, he was putting the answers down when he wasn't shown his work. Yeah. Shane Lowry, one and two. the answers down when he wasn't shown his work. Yeah. Shane Lowry one and two. See minus. Yes. I mean, actually maybe upgraded to a C because he missed the classes. Yeah, wish he wouldn't have missed those classes. But then he, you know, he, but then he came through in big moments. His assay was good. I mean, He should have been there. He just didn't come Friday morning. Should have been there.

Uh, Rory McElroy, one and three. I like, I don't want to put too much stock into the fact that he showed up today. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's really, really like, not only to show up, he established some early momentum for them. So I give him a little bit of credit for that. I'm going to give him a D plus. I was going to say D. But then also like, you know what, I'm going to give him an F. That was a roller coaster. Because

he like, he's the reason that you can put it much more at his feet than you can at Padre C. I think his rider cup. The results base ended before today. And if that's the case, it's enough. Yeah. So Ian Poul Polter one and two Honestly like a B-B-minus. Whoa. I played great today He was carried Rory around in four ball yesterday afternoon was not bad on on on Friday morning Polter was not the problem Seabem is mine. I mean to start with a C Yeah, I mean plus a plus worry literally gave him nothing in the four But I think he made four or five birdies yesterday in four ball and then went out and he finished his single square undefeated

Listen, this is news to me This isn't a lifetime achievement like it's not gonna. kill you know, nothing would be minus. Not sure. Nothing would give me greater. It could be like it and to fail him. It's like an AP class. He didn't do all in the final exam, but he got a four, you know, four out of five on the AP test. He counts for college credits now.

He played his role, I would say. Joan Haram, three one and one. I'm going to a it was just carrying that team in the first two days. Just wiped himself out. Played, played too much and just ran to a buzz saw today more than anything. So I think the thing that we did in fact during on these was was the Nicholas Jacklyn award. That's true. You know, we even talked about that yet. No. God damn it.

Can we get through the last couple of grades and we'll get there. Westwood one and two. Westie gets a D minus D minus D or D minus Westie gets the D. Vert Vsberger. Oh, and three. I'll give him a D and I'll give Westwood a D. Like Westwood faddled a little bit today, but you're on the team for your iron play and your iron play sucked. Yeah, straight up. Yeah, so you want to talk about Nicholas Jacqueline? Yeah, so news to us, they are giving it to one player

on each team, so it's actually two awards each year. it to one player on each team. So it's actually two awards each year. Sergio wanted, which was a bit funny, I guess, considering some of the things, Holly, you would dug up about Jacqueline saying about Sergio. For Af, dug him up. I was reading them out, but it said that, shut up. Sevi had more courage in his little finger than Sergio has in his whole heart, and that Sergio should have got suspended for his bunker tie raid and the things he said in Saudi Arabia, which is a very funny sentence. And then I forget what the third thing was too, but yeah, there's some history between Jacqueline and Sevy. I mean, you know, the fact that he went to Saudi Arabia, Nicholas has to respect that.

That might have been why he did it. That might be it. That might be it. This is a visit Saudi activation. And then DJ wanted on the American side, which I think is part performance. And then part, you know, he's the man in the clubhouse. So I think the team asked, but you know, the gentleman gets along with everybody. Yeah. That was one thing. I forget who said that, you know, about DJ, it was like, you know what? I've never, ever heard him say a bad word

about anyone, which is like, whoa, it's kind of weird. You guys have all heard me say bad words about a lot of people. I can't say that about me. So again, with DJ, I think it just, like it goes back to he manages his time well or manages his energy well. Yeah, he doesn't get hung up on stuff.

You know how, and also he's a former, he's a past champ of the bone saw invetational over in Saudi Arabia. So this is a great, great distinction for him as well. To be serious for just a second, you know, I think you hear another sportshow guys, especially like basketball, you would hear about younger guys going to train with Kobe in an off season. Like if I, it's silly, but like Rory should just go hang out with DJ

and see how he manages his time and his schedule and Or at least talk to him like Like a big brother I think I think I think what you're saying is more like he should go talk to DJ like how he manages his mind right or how like how he manages his bandwidth I just like how like how do you not fry yourself out? Yeah, yeah, mate like but I don't think like Roy doesn't have that brain You know like I don't think Dustin's methods are gonna work for Roy. I think Roy needs to go talk to people in fucking

other business aspects or other celebrities or other people away outside of golf. DJ is gonna say, hey, the important thing about not burning out is to make sure you don't burn out. Don't get burned out. Like DJ is the simple, not easy kind of guy. It's not that he can explain this shit. That's the brilliant part about it.

It's just who he is, right? I don't know. I'd be fascinated. Well, I think going back to that for just a second, I think going back to that just for a second, to go back to Rory, it is weird that I don't know what the comp for Rory is like that's fascinating idea that he should just go hang out and learn from

somebody but I know I've said this on the pod before but like the problem with you know being tiger is like you have to be tiger like I don't think that's what he's looking for I don't think he's trying to be Phil I don't think he's trying to be Jack Nicholas I don't think he's trying to be Arnold Palmer I don't think he's like I don't know who he's trying to be Jack Nicholas. I don't think he's trying to be Arnold Palmer. I don't think he's like, I don't know who he's trying to be. And I think that almost strikes me again, massive projection, but that kind of strikes me as part of the problem, right?

Is, I don't know what the model for Rory's career is. It's very hard in other sports because there is an off season and it's built in. I would say what you're looking for is maybe like a Tom Brady. Awesome businessman does a ton of philanthropic things and also is a killer athlete and it appears to have his family life under control. The good thing about is that he has a built-in off season. Right. You know, Roy doesn't have that. Yeah. Brady seems like a lot more of a sociopath than then. I think Rory, it feels like he's very objective and goal oriented, but also his goals

are, some of them at least seem to be financial. Like, hey, this is what success looks like to me because I want to build something sustainable and it makes, I think he wants to be more than a golfer. It's not about the money necessarily but that's the currency with which you measure yourself but the golf is a way to get there and I think that's why he's really really coming to like the rider cup is because it's kind of a counterbalance to some of those objectives and it gets him out of that kind of rat race that he's otherwise in. I'm projecting too.

I think I want to give, but as we go to wrap this up, I know we've kind of mentioned it in passing in some, but just a final shout out to striker for just running the playbook, he managed to perfection, got a bunch of dudes together that actually genuinely seemed like they enjoyed spending time together, set the quote, they did not do like a super easy setup this week.

You know, it was a, I actually think it played challenging to their benefit. Like it, it was an identifying test. Which again, I think is good because I think it separates which team is far far far superior. Yeah, right? You want it to be a, that's a miss, no, the miss, no where I think is. The Americans love these easy golf courses. Like no, the Americans have a way better team Like yeah, the harder golf course is gonna separate that coming in it was all about issues that were gonna be in the team

We're a soft personalities, and it appeared that though there were none right it's phenomenal work And shout-out to Brooks and Bryson for just like truly actually putting a pause to it for a week or whatever that whatever it was You know, I think from a team perspective, I think it's interesting, Strick early played in two router cups. Like, you know, and like that's an interesting tidbit of like, hey, it's not like he was this long time to install work, right?

Also, I mean, Mikkelson seemed like legitimate. Played three, I think, didn't he? 8, 12 and 10. I think he only played in two of those three. Okay. But he, like, I think Mik didn't he? Eight, 12, and 10? I think he only played in two of those three. But he, like, I think, I think makelson was legitimately great assistant captain, like he seemed like he brought the energy, but it, but didn't make it about him.

Yes. Which is, you know, I think sometimes a risk with Phil probably. He was on three, oh, eight, 10, and 12. Oh, yeah. And then, you know, and then I think at the end of the day, like a big thing that we've discounted for Europe for going to Rome is like, you guys are at a massive disadvantage

because Zach Johnson's gonna be the captain. Haven't talked about that. Well that was my point is, you know, striker, unbelievable, presence cut performance, unbelievable rider cut performance. What's the, I mean, I guess you just have to let guys have their shot, but if you're serious about winning rider cubs, why not let him keep going?

If you're stricter, why keep going? It's a lot of work. It's a lot. And I think they've had, I think that would be flipping at the bottom plan because I think ZJ is groomed for it. And which I will say, I don't know. I know. It'd be tough to screw up half a half bit there, but like with Zach Johnson, but I think he's

consistently gotten the best at his golf game and he'll probably do. I think he's going to be almost identical to striker. Yeah, I think they're similar ages. They know the guys in a similar way. They've played with a ton of them. They have a ton of bona fides on the golf course. They're very seemingly like respectable guys off the golf course, like who's gonna, you know,

unless we talked about this earlier in the week, but unless you're coming in and you're trying to do something absolutely radical, like it's not like there's a ton of crazy decision making that goes into their process, right? Like all the players spoke about that in the press conference, the American players. Hey, we had a bunch of input on our pairings. We had a bunch of, it just felt like a big group activity.

It's not these guys coming in and imposing their will. It's just kind of keeping it on the rails, managing, you know, some fires that pop up here and there and just making sure shit doesn't get out of control. And with that team, like the team that I assume they're gonna have in Rome like The captain's role. I'm not diminishing it at all, but it is it's not the Paul Azinger We need to start building you know seal team six. It's like hey

I took that personally. It's much, but well listen. I'm what I'm saying They're not bringing you in to say like hey, this is what we need to do Yeah, no raw rod. They're definitely not her brooks here. And they talked about there's no big speeches. You know, there's no a special guest in to come. No videos. That felt a little.

A little. Exactly. That felt a little needling to the Euros. Cool videos, guys. It sounds like more of a chairman of the board than like a. Yes. Yes. Oh, yeah. Exactly. That's what I'm getting at was that John.

So I really do think that there is an opportunity kind of for the US to turn this into next year's Presidents Cup in terms of like a true team, right? And that's an advantage the US, I feel like should have had over the last 20 years is they do get to do this every year in terms of getting getting 12 of the best players together. We need some continuity Is that also kind of a Sevi trophy when it was going on. Does that kind of discount your like is that kind of the counterpoint to you wanting to play the rider cup every year of like Maybe maybe it's actually a hindrance for these guys to to get to do that

Every year because they don't get quite as up for it. I think it will burn out on it. I think there's a weird, sorry, to take that while you're thinking. I think there's a weird disconnect between, maybe this is what you meant by the continuity stuff, but there's a weird thing between the the rider cup feeling like life or death in odd-numbered years and the president's cup feeling like just like fun.. They're kind of like a lot of people. They're kind of like a lot of people. They're kind of like a lot of people. They're kind of like a lot of people. They're kind of like a lot of people. They're kind of like a lot of people. They're kind of like a lot of people.

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It was gonna say most of the games, like, no, the PGA tour. It's gonna be US against, we'll say you guys, I guess we'll say you guys, we'll up in you guys. It's, we'll roll about. See what happens. It's the globe trotters versus the generals for the most part.

It's like set up to not be fair. So like they have no chance, not no chance, but next to no chance to consistently, you know, make up that talent gap, whereas Europe has clearly shown over the years, they can form a cohesive team that has role players that can overcome a suspected talent gap. And so, but yeah, there's something to like this week like channeling a fun environment. And it felt like the team had, it's easy when you're winning, of course, but it felt like they channeled a fun environment, kind of like the O8 team did for the most part.

There was more, there's more of a still in the caddies too. Like they, they all mentioned it in the, in the post game. And there's like, you know, it, it seemed like the caddies were more part of the fabric of the team. There was a question to, I think it was posted to JT about Tiger and for whatever reason, he kind of just, like, so it was Tiger, Tiger who, Tiger who, like it was just like a weird joke, but like, you could tell that Tiger was a big part of the decision making from Stricker to like, like Tiger was an assistant captain, right?

And I think that was, you know, that was very, like Tiger's part of the fabric of the team. In a good way. Yeah. In, and a non like energy sucking way a couple things from the chat one Randy, people are worried you're falling asleep. Are you good? It's about bedtime. Well, too, though, before you go People want to hamster them. Oh Tell it take us there. Oh, yeah, I think one one more thing I wanted to do was Yeah, I think one more thing I wanted to do was Uniform wise like I think you're at means to get their shit together from a colors perspective Like where's this burnt orange coming from that was a tribute to I think Sergio make it Sergio feel at home hook him big big

That one I think They looked good with the black with the yellow accents Which is kind of what the international team has gone to in the president's cup I dig the pandering the local colors. I think that's funny. Yeah, I mean, that's fine Yeah, but I think and then like the royal blue and the yellow is kind of what they always fall back on But it's just such a hodgepodge of weird shit. I think I thought the US Uniforms were were pretty decent. I like the, I like the hoodies all the, on the radio, we're listening to the BBC guys or the sky guys and they were, they were all up in arms about the hoodies, of course, especially in the wind. Oh, these,

these hoodies. What do you do with these in the wind? I'm glad they overcame that. I thought the, I thought the names on the back of the sweaters was actually kind of cool. That was very, like so bad it's good. Yeah. Pamster Dam. Dude, we're watching in the RV here this morning. And for if you're a new listener, hamster Dam is where we isolate the takes about pathetic golf television coverage into one section so it doesn't bleed into the show. You haven't had a whole lot of it this week because we've been

either watching Sky in some of the hospitality boxes which is jarring to see Sky juxtaposed with no that it's a commercial free broadcast in the hospitality they just keep it keep it rolling. I don't know if it's from some sort of world feed or how they do it but no commercials. But like NBC was really must must. Must check out some of them. It was got awful. I mean it was it was just there's nothing else you can say it was it was got awful and not only that like it was between the RBC commercial the Amazon Alexa

Our partners have been having us that was a tough one just because they kept playing it over and over again I didn't know what was going on in that commercial was the kid kid? Yeah, I don't know. Was the kid. Was it their kid? That couldn't. Was it just like a creed? Was it a single mom and a date? It was date night. It was mom and dad out on a date night. Right. So was the kid looking at his parents? Yeah, because he's like, oh mom and dad are home. That was not the look you had in his eye. It was a cop block. Yeah, exactly. It was obviously like date nine. They were You guys didn't And then he wants to pause and the babysitter was I don't know. Listen, there's some aspects. I'm not defending it

But I think I was quite clearly a date before we get deep on the commercial the best the best part of that commercial was that they They forgot to edit the audio so the lips didn't match up. But I think that was just the, yeah, I don't know. I heard that part of the why I don't think it was. I think I was getting that from other people. I think they, I don't know if that was exclusive to us. Anyways, hard to watch the golf. It seemed like yeah, and maybe they front loaded it, but they front loaded it so much to where even if you're like, like the whole

commercial load is still way way off. And to the point where they're missing, like they missed Roy's ego put on on two. Well, there was, you got to give him perspective. There was another match on the golf course. There was a second match. There was actually six balls in play and the entire golf course for four. Yeah. And then, and then they started giving way too much emphasis to the, uh,

first T stuff. And then you're losing the plot with what's happening ahead on two, like, they fall behind. You never catch really, really cool. Whole is that is that second par five, um, five, five. Like, it didn't see much of that at all this week. Including Bryson's drive right. 417 yards in shot. Unbelievable. It was one of the wildest shots I've ever seen. It's 78 yards into the par five. And it made me 72. Yeah, I can't speak a whole lot to the actual commentary just because I didn't like.

It's not like he's like known for hitting it super far. It's not like he's hitting a long draft contest next week. Well, it's really hard because like I there's no event that ever that I dig my clause into trying to like follow what's going on more than this one. And I have an earpiece in following the NBC broadcast, not helpful at like following what's going on. So you listen to the NBC broadcast instead of the sky or the sea. Well, I try to listen to like what people on Twitter are watching.

So like I'm aware of like what they see on TV because anytime you react to something that is what's not being showed on TV, which is a problem. Like I'll react to something I see on the course and it's not been not on TV for the two minutes. I don't know. That's just kind of how I do it. But like I would they just like start playing music during commercial. And I'm like, all right, well, there's four matches going on.

Flip over to the sky radio or whatever BBC radio to try to pick up on what's actually happening in the golf It's just it is just not covered man There was one like they would show one shot they go to commercial that come back to do it feature They show you know the first tea thing and then One interview and then they go back to commercial it was no live scoreboard Neal getting in on some coverage takes on Twitter as well I guess it's just late. It's got a change. Go on and won't it won't but going back to something I was saying earlier about the Hashtag monetization look

Cosmoney to run the world. It's it's a fact of life. I get it hard to go backwards hard to turn down things But you look at how the master's is run, and you look at the number of people that are inside the ropes, you look at the number of like all these, like it's such an obvious like money making endeavor instead of like a sporting event, right? And that's just how it comes across to me. And the Ryder Cup probably less so than a lot of other,

you know, events, but it's the commercialization wreaks very loudly. And just like watching some of those matches, like coming down the hell, I mean, there's hundreds of people just fucking like honorary observers and just all kinds of like random people walking, milling about and if everybody's inside the robes. Yeah, it's a weird weird vibe And I think that just kind of bleeds through the TV coverage was like is like what is the cock for? If not for like giving me some streaming Showing some like showing some featured groups like I don't think I saw a single shot from the from the Westwood

Group today until they were down the stretch right there's There's this cover like a sporting event for God's sake. Yeah. You know, they truly can't keep up with 12 matches. Like they have no shot with their corn, their format for commercial. They can't keep up with like six matches. They couldn't do four. Yeah, it's crazy. Um, it's getting off any blasts.

I think it's time. No, it's two hours. We had two, we had two hours. I think it's time. It's two hours. We hit two hours. I think it's time. The build out was like as impressively massive as made out to be. People of Wisconsin, you know, good people appearing in Wisconsin, good host.

Could be better at cheering, I would say. It was a weird scene around 18 when they were celebrating the cup and like spraying champagne and like comparing that to Paris, which was like out of control, singing, chanting, dancing. If I wasn't like really but hurt, one of the coolest scenes of sports I've probably ever seen. And this was that that was a nine out of 10.

And this was like a two out of 10 at the end. The boats were cool out on the on the water. Yeah, that's great. Five shot out of course to our guy Ziggy, who we parked our RV here at Zig's Golf Haven right across the street. Awesome time, friend for life. Weather was great. Just a whole shout out to you guys, we're of course discussing their commercial earlier

but the BMW folks for getting us out and being a global partner of the rider cup. I think that's the main reason we're here in four worldwide part of our partner. And it was just it was an awesome week. Very glad to have done it. Ready. Well, the full preview for Italy coming out on Monday. So thank you for that. And thank you boys for a wonderful week. It has been 14 months of seven men's majors

eight women's majors A rider cup a soul-heim cup and an Olympics and it is finally time to sleep. It is finally time to rest. What's our next big event? The Masters? The players? Masters? I've got the players in there. Yeah And yeah, that's the that's the next big one. I'd say the top players in there. Yeah. And yeah, that's the next big one. And that's what? Five months. Yeah. Five months from now.

All right, shut it down. Let's go check it out. Let's go check it out. Let's go check it out down to the players. Let's go check in with our families if we can. So thanks for one for tuning in. Thanks for all the live shows all year long. It's been a blast to just flip on the mics and do this stuff and

thanks for supporting what we do. And congratulations to the United States of America. I'm a happy man tonight. Cheers! Vamos! Give it a nice blow. Be the right club today! That's better than most. How about in? That is better than most.

Better than most. Expect anything different? Anything different?