No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 485: Sanderson Recap with Justin Hueber

Episode Date: October 4, 2021

Sam Burns wins the Sanderson and we're joined by NLU Young Hitter Justin Hueber to break down the tournament and get an inside look at some of the rookies who could have an immediate impact on tour in... the 2021-22 season. We also get Justin's take on Bryson's appearance at the world long drive championships and a ton more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yes. That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! in a couple, at least a month or something around there. Couldn't recruit any of our other guys to actually work tonight, so we had to go way down the list, pull in our guy, young hitter Justin Hubert,
Starting point is 00:00:51 Cornfairy Tour player. Tell us a little bit about yourself, Justin. Yeah, got a bit of a journey, man. Played probably the last six or seven years, had status on the Cornfairy Tour. Besides one year where I played Latin America, I played some Hooters Tour at the beginning, now 34 years old, and have second stage of Q-School
Starting point is 00:01:11 in a couple of weeks, so we've been around the block. We are gonna, we brought Justin in a little bit just to chat about, we haven't really done a whole debrief on the Corn Fairy Tour finals and some, projecting out some guys, some of the talent from that list. And so we brought Justin in to help us out a little bit with that. A couple of things to update you guys on.
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Starting point is 00:02:34 I got a couple of... I travel in them. I wear them so much I got a couple of new pair downstairs that I was thrilled to see when I walked in the kill house. But Sam Burns, that dude has just gone out and got it this year. Felt like he has played enough golf to have one more than once in 2021, and now it is official. He has. What do you see when you watch Sam Burns by golf, you were?
Starting point is 00:02:53 Sam Burns is truly one of the best putters I've ever seen. He had negative strokes in his sleeve. He won this week, but yeah. I watched it. I caught a good bit of it this week, and I watched how, I mean, he hit fairway after fairway and was, he hits it a long ways, throwing it back a couple years before, when he, the year he got his card,
Starting point is 00:03:12 played with him in Springfield, Missouri, final round. And after the round, I texted the Odyssey rep and said, build me the exact putter, San Burns uses, Loft-lye, length, everything. I need to know if it's him or if it's him. Long story short, that putters in two pieces in my garage. But it was him. And the greens there, pretty slow, bent grass, and they got grain and bumpy whatever.
Starting point is 00:03:40 His ball did not bounce once all day. It was a most impressive thing. He obviously hits a great, but his speed all day. It was the most impressive thing. And he hits, he's a, obviously he hits a great, but his speed all day was a foot by. Every ball looked like it wanted to go in. I was like, this is, Dekio, some leaving him like two feet short, blown at three feet by,
Starting point is 00:03:55 and my ball's getting everywhere. And he just, he flat out rolled it. And I think he'll, I told Sarah today I was watching. And when he was on 12, he was one back, or maybe tied, either way, I was like, he's gonna win it by two. Yeah, like he's dialed and he went on. I think he, but I didn't see his last,
Starting point is 00:04:13 I saw him hit it in the bunker, but from then I knew he'd take care of it. He had 13 top 25s last season. And he had like six top threes or something like that? They flashed a graphic that he led the tour. It was in the top three going into the last round. Gotcha. Through 54 holes.
Starting point is 00:04:29 With him, it seems like it's very much, like the talent's always been there. Talking to a few other players, you know, a couple of years ago, even, it was a matter of like just keeping him from doing stupid shit course management wise, you know, just kind of putting together four rounds with golf. And he swings hard every time. I love it. Like, it's a full on. If I got driver on my hand,
Starting point is 00:04:49 he's gonna, he's not hitting a little squeezy one to hit the fairway. It's like, here's my driver, I'm gonna take advantage of it. And he wails. And he was striving. He looks like to me that he's playing with a, I would just call freed up. He seems freed up. When he gets in contention now, he plays like he has nothing to lose. And I cannot imagine that's very easy to do. No. Can you speak to that at least a little bit? The shot that stuck out today was 17.
Starting point is 00:05:13 He pipes the drive and he hits a wedge to the like short side of the hole. When you got a two shot lead, like he just, he was dialed and he doesn't, not that he doesn't care. But he's proven he can win and he's been up there enough that today showed, listen, I'm good enough,
Starting point is 00:05:29 I'm gonna keep going. Like, I'm not just gonna sit here and hit it to 20 feet with his wedger in my hand. I'm gonna try to make birdie on 17 and have three shot lead. Like, that was the, kind of the aha moment like he played before that. He almost made Eagle on the par five, the par three. He hits a beautiful shot and makes the putt.
Starting point is 00:05:47 And then from then on out, he just played like so smart, but aggressive still that he, he just never let up and let anyone catch him. It was impressive. He's, he's, he's one that I think will be a top, probably 30 ranked player in the world for a good while. Who do you think has more upside? Him or Daniel Berger? I was kind of going back and forth
Starting point is 00:06:09 because they have relatively similar games, both seem like gamers that can get it done, both similar resume at this point. That's a pretty good comparison. To answer your question, I think Burns has more upside and I still think like Berger, my, the burger is like a safer bet, but like Burns seems to have like upside upside in terms of his ball
Starting point is 00:06:31 striking, I would say. Burger, I think just is, I don't know, he doesn't seem to like have real volatile weeks, which like we've, we've talked about that a lot of those, especially in the last couple of years, like Burns can give you a volatile week where he just goes and runs with it. Burger, like he's maybe the most underrated. He is very underrated. No one talks about him and he is a gamer. Like that's like, you don't have that golf swing
Starting point is 00:06:56 and last on the PJ tour if you're not just an absolute gamer. And the way he can hold up under pressure, deliver the club, like consistently with that motion. I mean, he's... I give Burns a slight advantage on the more upside, but I don't think burgers go anywhere for a long time. Now that he's healthy again, that was the... I mean, it would have been nice to see what burger
Starting point is 00:07:18 would have done, had he not gotten injured. Seeing Burns, just over the last year, he's played really well in Good Golf courses. To T7 in Napa, T7 at Houston, which was firm and windy last year, third at Riviera, won the Valsbar, obviously, and then Metfist, T2, and then, um, second and buyer Nelson, I thought, we want to include that. We want to include that in your great golf courses thing, but it's all that. It's also sick that you could just run through it skips up his great finishes Because he's got that many great finishes in the last year and
Starting point is 00:07:53 Listen, I promise that we were gonna put a pin and we were you know putting the the rider cup in the rear view But like the dude that was probably 13th on that team and didn't get the call comes out and wins the next week like Zach Johnson is gonna have like it's it's going to be like that. Andre the giant meme of like, no, no, no, I can't, I can't decide between all these players for 2023. Uh, we have obviously a long, long way to go for that. But he, I don't know, I've, I've turned my attention towards Presidents Cup now and I, I don't think I fully understand how they do the points for the Presidents Cup, but he
Starting point is 00:08:23 is, I, I think he was 12th on the list going into this week and I think he fully understand how they do the points for the president's cup, but he is, as I think he was 12 on the list going into this week. And I think he is beaten down the door already to be on that team next year. Not the same as writer cup money. Heuber, I wish we could tell you it's broken. It's not updated on the website. The website's struggling a little bit, but I think I think it will help the internationals though where they're going to do the I think the international list is much more weighted towards guys that play in the on the PGA tour.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Okay. Versus worldwide. Okay. So like getting a guy like a meadow parrera on the squad is going to be massive, massive for the international team. And I don't know if you guys caught it last week. I did take the pledge that I'm going to no longer shit on the president's cup because I love team golf that much. For me, they should on 50% of the big worldwide,
Starting point is 00:09:08 the biggest worldwide team golf events. We need the president's cup to get competitive quick because it's, you could say the same for the rider cup though. It's swaying back and forth. Like the home field advantage is too big now. Competitive on a micro sense. Yes, each one needs to be competitive no matter who wins. Like in last one was good. Yeah. It's better. It's getting there. It's just.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Gold golf course. Yeah. It's just. We're going to Quill Hollow this year. Quill is not going to be competitive. Don't get your hopes up for that one. The away ones might. I don't know. I don't know if Montreal is going to be that much better anyways, but I don't know. I'm ready to get like on sarcastically hyped for the president's cup next year. I'm going to go, I'm going to go to Kweil Hall. I'm going to go for it.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Say heat Tagala. What do you know about say heat Tagala, Hubert? Not a ton. I played some Mondays with him this year and when he was on a heater and it was pretty impressive. What's impressive? 62, one, he shut 10 under in Alabama. I think it was pretty impressive. What's impressive? 62, one, he's got 10 under in Alabama, I think it was. On a, when he was on a run of, he played a couple tour events,
Starting point is 00:10:11 got in the corn fairy event, top 25, I believe, once, maybe twice, and then flew to the Monday or drove to the Monday overnight from Nashville, down to Alabama, she'd 10 under in the morning. I'm like, good night. Are the Monday setups, like how are those set up? You've never been to a Monday before.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Most of the time it's a pretty basic golf course with pins instead of three and four from the edge, like seven from the edge. So it's a... So you gotta put your foot on the pedal. It's from start finish. And that's the sucky part is, is it say, so you go out and play solid and you shoot one or two under on the front. You just don't make much. You're like, wow, I need to shoot 31 or 30.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I need a whole ounce of 130. Yeah. And then you part 10 and 11. You're like, I have to birdie every hole. That's in that's. And it is what it is. They're Monday call fires. They're trying to get the hottest guy out there. And so Heath did it. I want to say two or three times. And then he was in a predicament where he had points on the PGA tour to get into finals. Or he didn't know if he had enough.
Starting point is 00:11:19 He had a decent amount. And then it was like, well, do I go do PGA tour Mondays? Do I do cornberry Mondays? And his credit, I mean, he played a bunch of golf and traveled around doing it all and then makes it in the finals via the PJ Tour list and bam, card. I know he's tricky.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Like you watch him play, and if you watch today, you can kind of see it get loose. One of the most impressive things it was on like 13, 12 or 13. He had a T ball that had 159 feet of curve right down the middle. Slanging cuts out there. It was like shocking.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And like that's impressive when you just made a couple bogies and you're clearly getting a little tight, a little nervous and you say, you know what? I'm just gonna banana ball this out in the middle of fairway on a dead straight hole. Like that shows some stones. Yeah. It's a different deal for the week too.
Starting point is 00:12:10 When you, like you go out, you shoot 64, you first run lead, back that up with 67, 67. Like that's a long week. It's a longer week than say, you know, just coming out, hanging out in the top 20 and then coming on Saturday after Wednesday. That's the situation what St. Burns did. I don't know what his first couple were, 67s, maybe something like that.
Starting point is 00:12:28 He was up there, but it wasn't. 68, 66. Yeah. He was you coming your second PJ tour event as a member and you were kind of going wire to wire for a little bit. You're bound to, he had made one bogey through 63 holes. And it's not bound to happen, but at some, you're going to get a little tight and unfortunately, he had a three putt from 20 feet and bogey to par five. It just kind of that felt like a little bit of a welcome to the PJ toward
Starting point is 00:12:52 it. It's not supposed to be easy getting your first win. And it, it like three out of four bogeys on that day that no one was really going backwards. And that's what's nuts too is like as good as he had played, there was nine guys within like two shots of him like Uh-oh, not just like one or two guys. You got to fend off. It's like that's so different It's gonna make a run and if I don't keep going like I'm just gonna get laughed Especially on a golf course where it rained a lot early the week Yeah, it's like guys are just throwing darts. It's something to like this kind of golf tournament where you can't really separate yourself out There is no steering at home.
Starting point is 00:13:25 You had to go out and get a number today. I don't know how many shots he finished back. He finished at 1900 Burns, Bogie the last to finish at 22. He needed 67, probably really 66 to actually get into a playoff for this thing. That's asking a lot. If you looked at the data golf stuff, roller eyes, if you want, he never got above a 44% win probability today. Like that just speaks to everyone.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I think a lot of people started to tense to look at the 54-hole leader and if they don't win it. Like this year for 54-hole leads was nuts. I don't know if there's ever been a year like that in terms of not being able to convert them, but he seems like a guy that kind of jumps off the page in terms of upside.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Is that fair? Yeah, I mean, he was, was he top-ranked damn or he was a, he won the Byron, Ben Hogan award or something like that in college. He won the Haskins, Ben Hogan, and the Nicholas award, the fifth person ever to win all three awards in the same season. That's impressive.
Starting point is 00:14:14 That's, and he didn't stay, is that what he, he had the option to stay for the COVID year and then he didn't need term pro. Correct, yes. I mean, he just kind of got boned by the scenario. Made the most of it. Made the most of it. Yeah, it's in front of him. Yeah, I think a six then corn fairy five.
Starting point is 00:14:29 It's just kind of the way it all shook out. Like he should have been a household name, in my opinion, like a year ago. Yeah. It did burns. Get that same triumvirate of your Ben Hogan award. I think I'll look it up. I think he got, I think he got,
Starting point is 00:14:44 didn't he get kind of cucked out on one of those awards? Well, I know he got screwed on the Walker Cup team. He was Nickless. He was Nickless player of the year. He's not our town features. But he did not win the Hogan or whatever the other one was. Yeah. If we didn't do a Fred X Cup draft this time around, which I don't know if we can do
Starting point is 00:15:04 on it at the, you know, at the break of the year or what, but Tagala seems like he would have gone first round, right? First round, for sure. I mean, like first, first four or five guys. Yes, it has to be. Yeah. Who else jumps off the page to you, huge? I guess it's a good time to talk about Cameron Young
Starting point is 00:15:17 who had his best, he had $40,000 in career earnings going into this week and made $600 and something with his T2 finish. So I didn't ever got the chance to play with him this year, but a couple stories to come from him of him being the real deal. His first win in Chicago when it was 50 degrees. I think Chicago was the first one. It may have been the second one. You'd have to look that up because he won.
Starting point is 00:15:40 I think Kansas City and then Chicago and I don't remember which order. Yeah, back to back, Advent Health Championship, which that's Kansas City I think. And then Chicago was the following week. Yeah, so second week he's already won and he goes to Chicago and he's playing with Guthrie in the first two days. And it's like 40 degrees, winds blowing 30. And apparently the last, I've talked to multiple people. The last hole 18 is a par five and it's like 590. When like in off the left and got three hit driver, hybrid nine iron and Cameron young hit a five wood
Starting point is 00:16:14 on the green. Oh my god. And that's when Luke was like, what? Like how what? It's not even in the realm of what I thought was possible. And he said all week,, he just did everything proper. Like every time he got out of position, he kind of got it back and then he'd get a wedge,
Starting point is 00:16:30 he'd stuff it and then he'd overpower the golf course when he could. So I haven't got to see it up close, but he's got to be one that is, actually in my US open, whatever snake draft with my buddies from back home, he was one of my four picks and they were like, can we're young?
Starting point is 00:16:47 I'm like, the guy's really good. And at Tory Pines, I don't think it ended up pinning out, but like the first day he was even or one under something like that. And they were like, okay, nice pick. He hit 187 ball speed on the back nine today, which that is not a golf course, it's just like totally pin your ears back and wail on it. And I think that's what Bryson was hitting in Mexico last year. I remember like he hit like when he was on his way up,
Starting point is 00:17:11 like started hitting like 187. There's not a listen, Bryson's hitting 215 or whatever. He's hitting in the long drive contest and stuff, but there's not what 48 inch driver. Yeah, we're talking 4% of tour guys. Maybe if that that can hit those numbers in tournament I mean, I don't see 4% I would say less than that less than that like Dustin Johnson's not hitting 187 off the tee No Cameron champ. Yeah, champ
Starting point is 00:17:37 Traymola and actually get probably gets there if he wants to Cameron young That's yeah, I know it's but there's I bet there's not big time. Don't tone his doubted back. He could. He's got it in the tank. He does. I actually talked to off topic real quick. Talked to Berkshire two weeks ago and I was up in Indiana playing a pro scratch. And he played the event and did a long drive contest. What not? And he was saying that Kim champ and Fina want to do long drive stuff. If it gets available, like if this schedule works out, whatever. And he's, Berkshire said
Starting point is 00:18:10 that those two guys actually have a chance. He's been around him and whatnot. And he thinks they actually could compete like Bryson. So for 2022, this is average ball speed. And it's only measuring 14 attempts for each of these. Cam champ number one, 189, Cameron Young, number two, 184.7. And then it's brand new line, Hagee. There's a lot of golf to be played, I think, in that. But that's a lot of guys moving it. But 187, tournament speed with three holes to go is like, that's a, that would have been third,
Starting point is 00:18:42 allowing last year's list behind Cam champ in Bryson. Yeah, so make sense in ahead of Young, I think there's just it's super impressive too because I think he got he got kind of screwed over a little bit by It really well at the end of the season in 2020 like T 11 in at the pinnacle bank, which is he Monday didn't there Okay, so yeah What Monday's it Monday's it on the in on the off the Latin American tour. And then basically goes T11 there, T14 at Portland, T6 in Boise, T2 in Columbus. And in any other season, would have gotten his tour cards from the finals.
Starting point is 00:19:18 You wouldn't have gotten to the finals, but he wouldn't have got Boise either way. Like, those are your first four starts. You Monday in and you go, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Like he almost had a PGA tour card locked up, essentially then, because those were extra points, but his swing makes me excited. I like the little paws. Yeah, it's a drill that I do is to load on my right side
Starting point is 00:19:40 and be able to pause for like one to two seconds and still be able to go, because then if you do it, you've loaded on the right side properly. If you can't wait, then you didn't. And he does it every time, even with like a wedge. It's like, it's pretty impressive. That's gotta be such a relief to come out
Starting point is 00:19:55 and reshuffle, you're gonna reshuffle straight to the top. You're gonna get in all the events you want to and to kind of hit the ground running with a strong like a T2 finish, regardless of when it is in the year, it's to give you a great chance to retain your card. You just got to play not horrible golf for the rest. And his goal's probably changed after this. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:20:12 And this was full points. Correct. Full points. These are full points events. Yeah. Nick Watney, not a name where you used to seeing up on the top of a leaderboard, finished one shot of the playoff of the final round, 65. Yeah, it doesn't even have a hat sponsor anymore. He's rocking a Spanish oaks hat out there. the top of the leaderboard, finished one shot of the playoff of the final round 65.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Yeah, it doesn't even have a hat sponsor anymore. He's rocking a Spanish oaks hat out there. Did not see that one coming. He putted his ass off this week. 11 and a half strokes gained putting for the week. But I don't know if that means anything, but man, you go check that OWGR page and see 18 straight missed cuts. When you've made that much money and you stay on the grind like that. Yeah, respect. Which he's on the top 50, exempt, top 50 all time money list exemption that he's using. Guess where he ranks on the list. 50th? 50th.
Starting point is 00:20:52 If he wouldn't have used it this year, then he wouldn't have got it. Like, because you got past. I think top 50 gets you one year. Yes. Top 20 may get you two or something like that. But yeah, that's, to fall that far, I think there's love those stories. You see a guy that was weak in,
Starting point is 00:21:08 weak out, playing great golf and then disappears. How's that happen to a pro? How can you explain it? I would say 95% of its injury. That's either you were injured and you're dealing with it and you're trying to play through it and then you just suck and then you finally get a fix and then you have to try to build back.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I think it's probably what happens most of the time. Maybe sometime it's a little mental thing, but I would say 95% is probably a some sort of injury he had tried to play through it. Clearly wasn't working, but he kept pushing because he's exempt. It's like, I'll just keep trying. And then finally it's like, I need probably need to get this looked at. So like, no one just loses it. Not really. Not the, no one that I can think of just like all of a sudden sucks. That was that, that was that good. Do ball.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Yeah, but they think that elbow. Is that the, whatever it was, the vertigo stuff. Like, you start dealing with that on the golf course. And I think, people think they're invincible too. Like your top 30 player in the world, you think you're gonna probably be there. Even if you got a little injury or something, you're like, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I'm still good enough. And then you go two, three years down the road and you're like, whoa, that's very quickly. The part that always gets me is trying to understand, even when you're playing great, you're gonna have some dips, right? You're gonna have, you know, you could take a bad-ish month, right?
Starting point is 00:22:29 And it can be random variance or it can be the indication of a problem. And there's, tell me, is there a way to know it when you're in it? Like, whoa, there's a problem here, versus like, you know what, I couldn't have expected to sustain what I was doing. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:22:54 I don't know. That's a tough one. I think most people go, oh, golf, you know, golf happened. But in reality, like it's it's probably 50-50. Like at some point you aren't gonna play as good and hopefully you get it back. But to to play that good for so long and then just completely fall off is... Well, it's gotta be so crazy psychologically to be able to discern a trend for a slump. Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:23:17 It's like when do you freak out? Yeah, well, the thing is, is probably most of these guys, I know you're trying to do the same thing essentially every day. You're trying to swing it pretty similar unless every day, like you're trying to swing it pretty similar, unless you're going through a major swing overhaul, you're attempting to do
Starting point is 00:23:30 the same thing all the time. So at some point, it does, it gets in your brain and you're like, well, maybe I need to change something. And that can be the dangerous rabbit hole that guys go down is maybe you should have just taken a two weeks off and just chilled and then came back at it. Instead, you went and saw a new swing coach or you did something else and then you went the overhaul route when you shouldn't have a pain. I don't know. I don't know if there's a good way to discern between the two.
Starting point is 00:23:56 So you've played with a lot of these guys that are now playing on the PJ tour, a lot of them playing the PJ tour for the first time. What's the difference? What do they have that you need to get better at? What do you see out of them that you either wish you had or haven't realized yet? I wanna, I always struggle and I've played a lot of golf that you have played with PJ tour guys and I struggle to like be able to explain the difference. In your words, what is the difference?
Starting point is 00:24:21 These guys that make it, they take advantage of their opportunities when they get them. Because in reality, you only get a handful of opportunities to really take advantage of throughout a season. And you go down this list and essentially everyone that was faced with a chance essentially got it done when they needed to. I think there's three guys that didn't win that finished in the regular season, top 25.
Starting point is 00:24:47 And I was, which this was like the mega season too. Yeah, this is really impressive. Normally like one win essentially kind of gets you in, but, it's like Curtis Luck won last year, didn't even sniff it. Yeah, there was 20 guys probably that won. That didn't 15, 20, that didn't get their card.
Starting point is 00:25:05 But like Ben Coles, Nick Hardy, and I don't know who the third was, it didn't win. Which, that's an even better year for them, because the points are so top. Yeah, it's incredible. And that's like, they're gamers. Like they just, they just got it done when they had the opportunity. And a few years ago, I had opportunities and I didn't finish it off. Well, I got beat by Sam Burns up at Savannah. I had the lead with a pitch.
Starting point is 00:25:30 I had the lead with like four holes to go and he brewed the last four. I played nice on the last four and he just like, I'm just gonna bird him off. All right, man, cool. Later on that year, I had a chance in Cleveland. My last five holes, I think I need to play one under. It was like the second or third of the last group,
Starting point is 00:25:44 whatever, and just made a couple of bad bogies. These guys wouldn't have done that like this season. Like that's how you get to the next level is you you get two or three opportunities a year, most of the time, most guys, you get two or three opportunities where you need to turn that top 10 into a top two or three. Right. And then that top five into a win. And that's essentially what these guys do. That's the thing about following Cornfairy is, it doesn't seem like the system is not very, if I would describe it, this is not an adjective,
Starting point is 00:26:15 but it's not very strokes-gainy. It is like volatile. You gotta have big weeks. If you do, like not every week, but if you like 15th place every week pretty much, like you're probably not getting through. If you finish 15th every week, it would be very close. But a 15th place finished 24 times is outrageous. Well, if you did it half the time, top 15, yeah, and not making that. It's like what, what, what, uh, Mav McNeely, what's
Starting point is 00:26:42 talking about? Right? I'm like, hey,, like I just need my two or three weeks. Just gotta go get it. I think the stat and I may be slightly off on this, but it's something like you make 80% of your money or points for whatever you want to call it in three to four tournaments a year. Yeah, that's it. Like 80% maybe even more and maybe different
Starting point is 00:27:02 for the top guys, but like the majority of the PGA tour, you make most of your money and points in three to four weeks, and you better make those three to four weeks count. And the same for the cornferry, 25 guys is so little compared to 125 guys on the PGA tour. Right. Like 25 is a, just a small sample. Well, especially like the nature of the courses too.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Like you gotta go out and make more birdies and like there's less ways to differentiate yourself because everybody's making birdies as whole. It's not like there's a big, you know, like impediment to, you know, shooting 65. Yeah, I'm sure. And it's the same field every week, which is pretty different than the PGA tour.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Like, you get the bulk of the PGA tour is the same, but those guys take weeks out. They have so many options and the top guys like, we play essentially with the exact same 100, call it 135 of the 156 players are the exact same every week. That's wild. And so like, you get to know each other. Yeah, yeah, and then you gotta go beat them. Yeah. And the thing about the corn fairies, you get on roles.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Like, you see, you look at these guys, they get out, they get their card, and most of them, like a Cameron young. Like, it's a two or three week stretch where you get hot at the right time, and you ride it and boom, there's your tour card. And I don't want to paint this as the courses aren't are not challenging, but it seems like the Corn Ferry tour is more about courses where you can start running downhill
Starting point is 00:28:34 and errors are almost, I don't want to say unforced errors, but it's almost like you get, you get your own way to stop you, right? It's not like you run up against holes that are just so challenging that you can't, you know, figure out a way to make par. You know what I'm saying? There's a couple of courses are different, but yeah. Very few, very few is it where 200 is a good round.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Right. Like it's just, it's not gonna happen. And very, I can think back to the courses. There's very few holes where you're like, oh, this one, I gotta really pay attention. Most time it's, you're trying to figure out a way to make birdie. Yeah. Like that's, you're staying on the seat.
Starting point is 00:29:07 It's like, what's my easiest way to make a birdie here? Yeah. Especially that middle stretch of the season. Like, it gets tough. You know, when you're in Illinois, Utah, boys, like it's, it's 20, it's 25 under. And that's just, it's taxing. I don't know how good you hit it.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Like, you look at Sam Burns, you shot 22 and like, put it bad. Like, that's like that's tax on good you hit it like you look at Sam Burns He shot 22 and like put it bad like that's like it's outrageous. That's a one-off, you know Yeah, so you better you it doesn't matter how good you hit it like you got to roll it and we're playing Greens aren't Right typically like tour yeah quality greens are good most most most places do a really good job But it's short rough typically pretty software in in the midwest in the summer where nothing's getting firm fast. I go out to play TPC when I'm home and I'm aiming at every flag and you can make bogies and yeah hurry and then you get to the point you're like aim it 10 feet to the safe side, but in. aim it 10 feet to the safe side. But in Cornfairy World,
Starting point is 00:30:04 it's, you're trying to knock down the flag stick 15 times around. That's actually got to mess with you a little bit, like coming back and playing PPC. I said on the CZ. I literally was on the first hole yesterday, and I'm in the right rough, and the pen's like front left,
Starting point is 00:30:20 and I'm like, right at it, and I'm like, Justin, don't, you're gonna make bogey, like hit it, hit it to the middle of the green. But like, that's it. And I'm like, Justin, don't, you're gonna make bogey. Like hit it, hit it to the middle of the green. But like that's just the mindset you get in. And that's impressive for these guys that get their card, I think, is to go out right away and then it kind of switches.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Like it's, this week was a little different, but Napa, like that's a hard golf course. It gets firm, crusty. Like now you gotta go think your way around the golf course a little bit. And, you better, and you gotta, like make fours on four seventy holes a lot on the PGA tour. It's just a more demanding on driver I would say too. Typically the roughs a little higher and then especially if they get the
Starting point is 00:30:55 fairways running a little bit the fairways shrink up. Yeah. Yeah. Like like seeing some of these guys that came out of corn fairy finals or just off the corn fairy for two years. Like Hayden Buckley's another one, T4 this week, shot 66 today. I want to ask you, we're for his to kind of run through who else jumps off the page.
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Starting point is 00:32:23 night with it or whatever it was. So I'm glad you picked up on that. But who have we not talked about that kind of jumps off the page for you in terms of guys you've played with their guys you've just seen their results and just know they're them to be a dog. I think Taylor Penderuth is one that his name's come up. He hits it. He's one that can absolutely move it. He, I mean, most guys at swing at that fast can hit a foul ball or two and he can end up with this weird like going hook that goes forever, but unfortunately forever offline. But when he's dialed, it's, it's really impressive. He wedges it really good for a guy that bombs. Mito, you brought him up. He's, when I played the year in Latin America, he was down there. And I remember talking to one of the officials. He won one of the weeks in either your way
Starting point is 00:33:11 or maybe even, I think it was your way. The rules of fish was like, yeah, he just wants you to figure out how good he is. He's gonna take off. And then he obviously had the injury, motorcycle accident, whatever, and he revamped his swing. And then now you're seeing it.
Starting point is 00:33:26 And he's a legit stud, his allotors is on this list, that's funny. Which kind of a tough week for him. Yeah, we shot what, 62? 61. 61 and round two. And then kind of, he finished T-14. He had two rounds in the 70s this week,
Starting point is 00:33:43 which not a lot of guys near the top did. but also shot to Matthew Wolf to 17 this week. Big. May the cut on the number and the show. Yeah, then shot 65 and round three. Hopefully the sign of him kind of turning things around here. We'll see. I'm excited to see him playing an event like this in the fall that I think that's a good sign. I want to see him play more. Another guy Nick Hardy is an absolute gamer. I played a decent amount of practice rounds with him with him and Guthrie and it's I don't want to say that it's not impressive but it doesn't blow you away because he just does everything really good. It's not like oh my gosh he bonds or oh he it's puts it whatever it's
Starting point is 00:34:19 just like you go around and he'd be the guy that you play with you like what would you shoot like one under two hundred and he's like no six. You're like whoa He seems like the kind of guy that's gonna dig very quietly just be on tour for yeah 15 20. He's gonna finish top 20 Seven times this year and you're like It may be T16, but it's gonna happen a bunch just because he does everything so well He only shall one one under today, but finished T26 for the week. So he's a gamer. I may just see what Grayson SIG does out there.
Starting point is 00:34:51 The kid rolls it and just his swing is super simple. I think he'll contend. I'm excited to see what Stephen Yeager's got this year. He's my guy. We played a lot together. What's so important about it? Like when he's been on the tour, because what, he's got seven or eight
Starting point is 00:35:07 cornberry tour all of a sudden. He was always impressive. He only used a 56 degree for the longest time, like forever, and had one of the sickest short games could hit any shot with his 56 degree. And I think he's bumped it up to 57 or 58 now, but I mean, some guys just don't get it done right away. They're first time in it's not set up to get it done.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Yeah, it's set up very, I mean, there were three guys this week from the corn fairy list that didn't get a play. It's that can turn them into the year in the fall of like, including Lauer. Yeah, yeah, I know Lauer, Smotherman and Uline didn't get in. It's like, how do you, like, you, it's just not set up great to have a lot of success your first year and I think that's kind of what Yeager's run into and then I truly think this year he gets to play everything He doesn't have to worry about reshuffles. He's gonna he's gonna play and I didn't I guess I'd in my mind He had ping pong back between the corn fairy and PJ tour more times than I had remembered
Starting point is 00:36:01 But he I laughed because he he seems like he just is too good for the corn fairy tour yet. Hasn't been able to cut it out on the VGA tour. He won one twice last year and famously finished fourth, sorry, famously finished second four more times, just could not get the battlefield promotion. But yeah, one seven hundred fifty eight thousand dollars in one year on the corn fairy tour, which is like, I think that was good for him though to not, I say this, to not get the battlefield, but like to keep playing, keep playing, keep putting himself in those positions. And I'm sure he learned a ton about himself in those four
Starting point is 00:36:32 second place finishes that, hopefully, as he plays this year, we'll carry over. And I mean, he just, I played, I don't know how many, like, actual rounds I played with him in tournaments this year, but it was a few. And it's just, it's simple. He hits this kind of same shot off the tee, great, strikes it great. And then you get like wedge and putter, he needs you to flat out, make 20 footer after 20 footer, it seems like they just wanna go in.
Starting point is 00:36:58 That Monday I catted for you, he was in our crew, and shot like a bazillion under on the front nine and kind of ran into a couple bogies on the back. But I was like, this guy's like one of the best players in the world. He finn it in 35 events. He finished between 11th and 25th place, one time. He had 14 top 25s and 13 top 10s. That's wild.
Starting point is 00:37:18 That's outrageous. That's getting it done. That's like a, I wanna say a tiger step, but that's essentially like a tiger step. Like, when you play well, you play really, really well. Get a lot out of it. That's for this. Yeah. You just, you don't, you don't turn top 10s in the top into into a T18.
Starting point is 00:37:34 You turn a T18 into a T7 and that's, he's impressive. He'll be in a lot of my draft Kings plays, I think, this year. Yeah. Just a couple more like, like Corn Fairy guys. We didn't mention Davis Riley. Yeah. You play with him at all? I never got to play with him.
Starting point is 00:37:49 He is one of the prettiest golf swings out there. Yeah. I didn't get to spend much time with him. I am anxious. I want to see what trade does. Well, next. I played great this week. Now that he's back out there, I expect him to contend.
Starting point is 00:38:06 He's got the game. I'm interested. There's a few of these guys that I don't know. Alex Smalley, I saw how he got his card. I think he went to Duke, a couple of these guys that I'm anxious to see. Couple of guys that just, you know, it seems like a long time coming for them, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:20 where maybe not as high of upside, but Paul Barjon, he seems like he's been just steadily improving, Canadian tour two or three years ago and then played really well on Cornfairy. And then local guy, Jared Wolf. Jared is one of the most improved golfers in this four-year span that he's been here and gotten to know him.
Starting point is 00:38:45 It's impressive. When he's driving the ball well, he's probably, he's a top three driver of the golf ball out there. It's, it gets really, really impressive. Like flat cuts and he swings, he hits it hard. Like it's a, it's really impressive. I'm just gonna say that. Like when he, when he's driving it well,
Starting point is 00:39:07 it is, there's just no doubters. Like step up and right down the middle. What do you make of the European tour guys coming over? Like Aaron Rye, Bazzadenholt, Matthias Schwab, Lucas Herbert, Calum Terran, those guys coming over and... Calum's been over here. He played China with Charlie. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:29 And I think he beat Charlie out of the number one spot. Like at the very last event. Anyway, Calum's really good. And Calum's another guy that bombs. Like, look out for him. I played a handful of times with him, but I love that the Euro guys tried it. Like, I'm gonna, I watch enough European tour golf to know who these guys are.
Starting point is 00:39:51 And Lucas Herbert, I don't know how you say his last name, I remember watching him try to win in Abu Dhabi or Dubai or whatever it was. And think he's got what it takes, just from watching European tour stuff. I think he's gonna be a guy that's up there, a decent amount. He had a tough, tough rules infraction
Starting point is 00:40:08 for years ago, though. Tough. TC will let him forget that one. Vince Wail is another one that I've kind of got my eye on. He moves it and just a really, really smooth. Yeah, nice comeback. Yeah, after, I mean, he got his card a couple years ago, lost it and to get it back.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Any of those guys that do that, like it's impressive. JJ Spawn, another one, battled injuries and like fell off and now he's coming back. He respawned. I like that one. Patrick Rogers, what's the deal? Is he just can't put it all together? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:37 And I, he's not a four turn, he's not a four round tournament player. Like he has flashes in almost every tournament and it just never goes for four rounds. I played golf at Patrick Rogers when he was in high school. He's from Indianapolis played on the high school team with a kid that I played in college with. So we played a decent amount, not a decent amount. We played a few times and he always like, he always thought he was better than everyone and he played like it and it was really impressive. Like back then, like I remember he said he's like, I played like it and it was really impressive. Like back then, I remember he said,
Starting point is 00:41:07 he's like, I won't make a buggy today. He's like 15 or 16 or something and I don't know what he was, but me and another buddy had just turned professional and we waxed in that day and we were like this kid. Like hopefully that taught him a lesson. No, he goes to Stanford to win like 10 times through whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:41:22 And he's got the work ethic to back it up, you see, right? And he's ever since he was a kid, like in TPI through whatever it was. And he's got the work ethic to back it up. Yeah. And he's ever since he was a kid. Like in TPI, Scottie Cameron, like the whole deal. Like he had it mapped out. That's what he's going to do. And his credit, he's done it. And he's stuck with it.
Starting point is 00:41:36 It's again, goes back to injury. I don't, yeah. And I don't know why he hasn't broken through. I keep it's, he's got tape on his wrist at all times. In his, his wedge game is one that I don't think you'd broken through. He's got tape on his wrist at all times. His wedge game is one that I don't think you'd have to look at the sets, but I would say the way he swings it is not conducive to like dialed wedges, and I could be off on that, but that's kind of...
Starting point is 00:41:57 I'm a rory. I was going to equate it to that. His swing is very rory-esque. It's high, like powerful. His hips move quick. Like it's just not conducive in my opinion to like an 85 yard sand wedge into the wind. Like what he is he going to do. He's going to probably throw it way up in the air and. 196th on tour from 100 to 125 yards. 176th from 125 to 150. So it just it seems like a game where he can hit a five iron Sky high and drop it in from 220, but then I don't know any he obviously can even work on that and that may be why he breaks through this year, but That's just kind of my take on
Starting point is 00:42:39 What I've seen out of him. It's approach play him. He's above average strokes game and everything else last year on tour Just approach play was minus point four shots, but you can lose your card that way. Any experience with Taylor Montgomery? I know he missed out. He was 26 on regular season and finals, which is just maybe the first time that's happened. Maybe the first time that's happened. Yeah, that's a tough one. And he had so many chances.
Starting point is 00:43:03 He's a UNLV guy, right? Yeah. So many chances, like down the stretch, and then he just didn't get it done, kind of like back to your original point. Yeah, he had the, in Utah. He did though make a putt on 18 in Utah that I thought was like the one. Like that was the moment, you step up on birdie 18,
Starting point is 00:43:21 and he got like 80 more points or something for that birdie to finish T2 rather than fourth or whatever it was. And I really thought that was like, that was the moment. I was like, all right, he's not gonna win the tournament but he was able to sack up and do that. And I thought that was gonna get him a card, turns out it didn't, but he's young enough
Starting point is 00:43:40 that like, and things kinda like a lower situation. You do that when you're young and in your 20s, you're coming back, you're hungry. You do that when you're 35 and you're like, oh, that may have been it. I think that's, so I think it may work to his advantage that it'll probably work as tail off this off. He's like a cool to see David Skins. Yes. Gosh. Skinsy. He's a treat. He's always been really good. His attitude can be, he can get hot. And even
Starting point is 00:44:06 that week, he played right behind me the first couple of days and he can get hot. But he, uh, he's another injury. So I played with him in the finals for in Columbus. First hole of the tournament. Me and Bob Strabb, uh, and skin skins is in the right fairway bunker on one, hits it and disappears. We walk over there, he's laying down in the bunker and he's like, I can't get up my back. I'm like, oh, it's first hole. What just happened? So he WD didn't get to play the finals. He may have tried to come back and play like Atlantic Beach or something, but wow. Yeah, it was really. It was nine years old. Yeah, and he's just been after, he played Hooters Tour back when when I got out of college,
Starting point is 00:44:47 whatever. So I've known him for 10 years to see him get it done. And the way he did it to that back nine in Omaha was super impressive, especially I take you back to 15, the par five, when he hit it like mega right off the trees back into the hazard. That's one like, that's literally the only thing the ball can't do. And it did it and for him to like shake that off the trees back into the hazard. That's one like that's literally the only thing the ball can't do and it did it and for him to like shake that off and come back and I think he got up and down for bogey or something on that hole even and
Starting point is 00:45:13 birdies 16 right after just impressive. Hmm. Guys, it's amazing how much you can trace these guys making it to just a couple things to go in the right situation. Yeah. That's That's wild. So anybody out there that didn't get his card this year that you're really, really expecting to next year, expecting big things out of, like for me, it's Thornberry.
Starting point is 00:45:35 He's kind of, it's kind of been a mystery as to why he hasn't put it all together yet. But we can see signs, right? He finished 28th, I think, in the form of a final. Yeah, I got three names that I'm kind of looking at for next year that didn't get it done this year. One being Vince India. Skinny Venice. Skinny Vince. The guy pound for pound has to be one of the longest players. There is. I mean, he moves it and he can't weigh 140 pounds. Puts it great. He's just a, he's developed every,
Starting point is 00:46:05 I think the stat on him is like, he's gone to first and second stage like seven or eight times and made it through every single time. I was gonna say this is actually security for him. So he'll be rested for the first time. Yeah, I played with him a couple of weeks ago, actually up in that pro scratch up in Indiana, he filled in for a buddy.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I think his game will, it'll get done. Very cerebral player. Yeah, he just, he just, he's just really good. Like that's just all there is to it. Tyson, I play a lot of golf with him here. He won last year. This will be, I think, the first time that he has guaranteed starts. Tyson Alexander. Alexander. Yeah, and he's, yep, Gator. He is, he's got the game to do it. I think he just, it's a putting thing for him when he gets it rolling. It fills up. He has an interesting stroke too.
Starting point is 00:46:52 It has a ton of facial rotation. We were with the same putting coach and he's, I think my putting coach says he's the most he's ever seen, but he does it essentially every time. It's something that you wouldn't teach. It's just a natural thing he does. And when it gets going, it's really good. And then my dark horse would be Kevin Roy. Kevin Roy is a Tampa guy. I played a lot of golf with him and he is, he's another one of the guys like that. It's just extremely solid. It's it flushes it, wedges it great, rolls
Starting point is 00:47:22 it good. And I don't know what his stats were on the, he had to play, I see he's 48th last year on the list, but he just seemed like a top 20 machine, just because of sheer quality of golf, like nothing fancy, just out there making birdies and not making mistakes. And we go Kevin Roy, I never even heard Kevin Roy. I watched the long season. I follow Cornfarin every week.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Let me see if we can click on him here and see what, I don't know if it'll let me do that. What's your favorite event out there in Cornfarin? Well, it used to be Portland. That golf course was awesome. And just the area itself, we'd always go out to the coast last year, Guthrie and I drove out. We played, yeah, Gear Heart Links,, we played. Your heart. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Gear heart links. That was incredible. You went to what? Pronghorn or Pronghorn and Tethero. We did a 36 day and it was, uh, it was pretty well. How'd you guys play Tethero? Like, um, do you find that golf course hard as like professional golfers? Yes. And not like it was just quirky.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Like there was a spot on the back nine. I'll never forget this Gotta be like 12 or 13 par 5 down the hill I Got a guy told me where to hit it and I hit it Literally on the tree and we get up there and it is rolled through the fairway And there's a bunker that faces the other way. I don't know if you saw this But there's a like it's a bunker that's hidden and there's a log that goes
Starting point is 00:48:45 over the edge of the bunker. And I was like under the log in the bunker and had nothing. I'm like, what happened here? Luke's in the fairway and hits his hybrid that's as good as you can hit it, like there's water left to the green. We're like, oh, that's going to be tight. We get up there and it's gone in the water over the green. We're like, this place sucks. And then like two holes later, you hit like a shot and it catches a bank and goes down to a foot and you're like, this place is kind of sick. Anyways, yeah, that was a, we wrote golf boards there. That was a, it's a fun place.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Yeah, it was, you need to play it like two or three times just to kind of get a feel for what's out there. But I'll tell you what happened. David McClay, he got divorced. That's what happened. He would tell you that too. Back to Kevin real quick, 14 top 25 last year. Wow, that's a lot.
Starting point is 00:49:30 That's a lot. That's as many as Stephen Yeager. Yeah, that's exactly. So I think he's a easy guy to keep your eye on for next year. Over across the pond, if we may, I think believe it's time to address Danny Willett. You lit up when you walked in the room, people were talking about Danny Willett
Starting point is 00:49:43 winning the Dunhill this week. Pretty awesome. I just kind of get a little giddy on the guys that go from top players in the world to like non-existent and then fight their way back and win that mental fortitude to win again after you've gone through that. I can't imagine what that takes truthfully
Starting point is 00:50:04 to of knowing like, oh, I was really good. And now I'm in position to do it again, but at the same time, two years ago, I couldn't break 75, what's coming out today. And to be able to get it done, I think you didn't even win the BMW over there. Like that was his first win back. And he was, I don't know how many strokes can you putting
Starting point is 00:50:26 but it's impressive. He's a really good putter. And then today, uh, just watching him, he just had, um, joys the right word, but he just looked happy. Granted, you're playing the old course and it's a fun tournament and you got amps, but like, it was 45, 50 degrees, whatever, and the wind was blowing like tough out there. Yeah, I was like, and he just would, he had a shot to like 40 feet on this one hole and he just walked out the tea smile and I'm like, he's going to win.
Starting point is 00:50:52 It's just, it's just, it's just really neat to see. And also, I mean, Hatton was up there, Lowry was up there. It's pretty, pretty nice little field. Fleet would play the well. Yeah. Billy Ho. Yeah. Currently second in the race to Dubai. It's just just absolutely cleaning up. He's played
Starting point is 00:51:09 one obviously won the BMW PGA won the WGC Dell match play. T2 at the work day championship at the concession. So he's playing well in all the right events. Morikawa is still leading the race to Dubai. I saw those rankings follow up the other day and I was like, well, what's happening? There's not a single. I don't know. There probably was a single guy, but he's probably one like three times. I don't know who it would be. But, well, it's so messed up because their purses have gotten hit so hard that it's points based. So the WGCs are the all where all the points are. So you just have to win like one of those. And it's all funny. Right. like, yeah, money value into points.
Starting point is 00:51:47 At least it at least it has been I assume it's still the same. I normally like you'll have four PGA tour players up there. And then like, who's the guy? Can't come up with his name. The European guy that won a bunch last year. Justin Harding. It was him South African guy. Yeah. And then like his
Starting point is 00:52:06 and he'll win like three times over there and he'll be in like fifth place. Yeah. Not even close. You're not what dominated that tour. But I mean, the only guy that's played in more than like, I guess Hatton's played in the 13, but other than Hatton, the next closest guy is eighth on the race to Dubai list. That's That's Dick Bland in 19 events. He had a weak one on the last toll for birdie today. It was not pretty from like five feet. That term, that term, it's like one of the best coffee golf in the grand. It's, it's during football season and it just doesn't get a ton of attention on it and the field is not, you know, crazy, crazy strong. But it's just the best to flip that on. The conditions were a bit soft this week. You know, old course needs to have a little bit more bounce to it.
Starting point is 00:52:45 I think to really be, you know, when Noren, he was on Bob McIntyre, he had a great shot. He was short of the road hole bunker. It's a great shot. And then Noren basically spins one back from like 30 yards. And you're like, ah, okay. That's a little different. Yeah. Will it do that today, 2 on 11?
Starting point is 00:53:04 He bailed way right. That pin was sick. It was just that today, two on 11? He bailed way right. That pin was sick. It was just over the Strathbunker. And he bailed way right. And he hit a chip and it just like landed just short of the hole and like spun to a stop immediately. I'm like, ah, I haven't played that on course before. It was wild.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I mean, so I went over to it in 2018. And I mean, the win was born like crazy at at car news see, which they had some pretty proper conditions as far as wind a little bit earlier. Yeah, it was pumped. Friday Saturday. But that was the year that we did Taurus sauce, Scott, everything was burned out and then going back to the old course, you know, less than three months later, two months later, it was, it was like a completely different. So different. So different place. So it was so much wetter and greener and lusher. I just want to give a shout out to Nikolai Hogard, you know, the Hogard twins are are they're coming, man. They're coming. Shaking over here and terrified here they come. I just love flipping on and
Starting point is 00:53:57 watching the old course and just like never there's almost no golf course that I'm just like immediately I need to know exactly which way the wind is blowing because so many holes placed so different like nine could be drive Bull yet it could be full nine iron and 18, you know guys were hitting it over with driver today And they couldn't even come close on Saturday. It just is Just a fun a ton of half par holes and just a weird Beautiful just beast. I just freaking love it watching this spray pattern on shots on 12, and I figured who else talking to somewhat recently about the old course.
Starting point is 00:54:27 I think it was, I don't know if it's Patrick Harrington or someone, he said, or maybe it was Tom Watson actually. He said, you know, I, you know, if I'm gonna learn how to play the old course, you know, in 30 years playing it, I still don't know how to play number 12. Still don't know how. Just like, that really stuck with me
Starting point is 00:54:42 and watching guys like, clearly still have no idea where to hit that T-Shot. It was just, I don't know, it's a great golf tournament. But. Have y'all played Kings Barnes? Yes. Is it as good as it looks on TV? It's a set of fake boobs.
Starting point is 00:54:56 It looks so good. I like Kings Barnes a lot. It's my favorite looking one of the three that they play. Like from visually, the way they have it, the camera set up, I'm like, man, that place looks awesome. When I went to Scotland for the first time in 2015, it was all of our favorite course that we played on the trip.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Great, I didn't have a appreciation for Link's golf yet, but it's like an Americanized version of Link's, but like, I wouldn't put it in the same category as like Whistling Straits. Whistling Straits is a true target golf course. King Sparons is Link's... It's a much better golf course than like Whistling Straits. Whistling Straits is a true target golf course. Kingsparin's is links. It's a much better golf course than like Whistling Straits. Yeah, Kingsparin's is links adjacent, right?
Starting point is 00:55:28 But just a little bit better turf to get, not better turf, but more pure turf to launch the ball off of. And you can play it areaally if you want to. But it's pretty sweet. It's an awesome piece of land. There's some just okay holes there, but there's some really good holes out there.
Starting point is 00:55:41 I like Kingsparin's a lot. I would say as far as new links courses over there go, I would put Castle Stewart. I would say, if you gave me 10 rounds, I think Kingsborne and Castle Stewart, I'd probably go eight to Castle Stewart. I'd say seven, three Castle. I mean, Kingsborne's spectacular viewing, though,
Starting point is 00:55:59 it really is, but Castle Stewart's a really special golf course. So, can we do Bryson next? This is a little further down the list, but I feel like an hour in is a safe time to address that Bryson went out to the pro long drive championship and finished in the top eight, which I'm just gonna put my hand up, didn't have him balling out at the Ryder Cup
Starting point is 00:56:17 and doing this in the same week, did not see that coming. That's freaking insane. It's insane. But his benefit, and I say that like, one of the reasons my bird charters were the good after talking to them, but like, Bryson has the ability to hit it solid. Like that is such a big difference,
Starting point is 00:56:34 especially when you're swinging it that fast, to maximize. And like Bryson's numbers aren't even close to these guys in speed, like swing speed. These, what was he, 18 mile an hour slower than Justin James and Berkshire? 18, he had 146 clip hits beat at one point. Okay, so that was, so then it would have been 10.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Okay, from his like peak. But like the one he hit was like, was like right around 140 and 217 ball speed. And that's like, obviously incredible. But the shot went 402 yards or whatever. And the other guys are swinging it in mid one 50s with 230 mile ball speed. And yeah. And like that's the one thing. Why I think he can compete because he has the ability to hit it solid. And when you're swinging it that fast, just that little bit extra matters a ton. And I
Starting point is 00:57:23 watched Birkshar put on a long drive contest in Indiana. This is three weeks ago and he was training. I watched him warm up that morning and he was hitting. He was flying his driver 365 into the wind to the other end of the range like almost hitting the guys and I think I watched him bounce the cart path right in front of the range like right over the guys head. It's 365 and I'm, this is going to be impressive. So that night he does it. It's at 441. It's it over the first green at Sequoia Hills, like on the back range at 8 p.m. And I'm like, that's, it just doesn't make sense. So we talk afterwards. He said at some point, there's a little bit of diminishing returns in terms of smash factor,
Starting point is 00:58:00 like your swing speed increases, but you can't get the ball speed. But Bryson's ability to hit it solid, maximizes his smash to where he can. And that's my like he that's his one. If he's was a little bit off center on his hits, he's gonna he's not gonna make the top 64. It seems like psychologically to I watched most of the first two days of it, like his rounds. And it seems like psychologically, it certainly helps him out because it seems like it's playing like the lottery, right? And you're trying to get as many lottery tickets or as many raffle tickets as you can. And he's getting more raffle tickets than these other guys because he's got more shots in play. It just seems to be a little bit more consistent.
Starting point is 00:58:45 And once you get one or two out there, then you can really start rearing back and hitting it. But some of those guys don't even get that opportunity because they're just searching for the grip, right? They're first four of about a bounce there. They're about 90, 90, 90, steer one. And he was pretty darn consistent in getting one of his first three in like every time.
Starting point is 00:59:03 In like the 380s. Yeah, like respectable than now. It's like, all right, let it eat a little bit. just in getting one of his first three in like every time. In like the three eighties. Yeah. Like respectable than now. It's like, all right, let it eat a little bit. I was sick when the wind switched. Yeah. Yeah. That was nuts.
Starting point is 00:59:12 I watched a good bit of, I was intrigued because Berkshire actually stood up and answered some question. They asked what he's been doing with Bryson. And he said back in 2019, they've been Bryson kind of reached out for some advice or whatever and he worked with Komo And was like I don't want to like math be the guy that messes up one of the best golfers in the world So the way they went about it was Pretty impressive and to gain speed and Berkshire says he hits 120 balls
Starting point is 00:59:39 On a speed day 120 drivers as hard as he can hit it. That's exhausting. I hit five. Like five drivers on the range for me. I'm like, woo, all right. It's hit some wedges again. But that was one of the big takeaways. And he said it takes him like 40 to 50 balls with driver to get to his max speed versus. I'm like, I once again, five.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Like five. And I'm like, that's it, like shutting it down, but he's impressive. And then to instill all that with Bryson, you don't have Bryson's worth, work ethic is, like he's gonna do everything Birchart tells him to do. And boom, there you go. Which is unreal. If we need to confirm it for like the 80th time,
Starting point is 01:00:22 still a showed, like we're still on that. Still an unlikable guy out there But still in total amazement with like what he's doing what this guy's done in two years I mean go look at pictures of him in France in 2018 and like try to tell like try telling that guy that guy's gonna Be in a long drive contest and gonna weigh 230 pounds or whatever he weighs now and hitting it 400 yards It's like not not, like 400 yards.
Starting point is 01:00:47 And not like flying at 360 and running to 400. Yeah. And some of them flew like 385 and rolled like 392. Exactly. In the air for, and we're talking about a level he has gotten to the dozen get to on tour, which is understandable. I just didn't, I kind of thought, you know, you get out there and get humbled a little bit and to get top eight, I tour, which is understandable. Like I just didn't, I kinda thought, you know, you get out there and get humbled a little bit
Starting point is 01:01:07 and to get top eight, I'm, granted, I listen, I don't follow the pro long drive very closely, but to get top eight is freaking insane. After like, I kind of sold out for this thing and was prepping for it and put his rider cup at risk if we're being honest and played good enough. He played the right role in the rider cup, goes to 0 and 1 there and then comes and does this.
Starting point is 01:01:27 It's just, it's just freaking wild. Did it in Olympic gear when they're drug testing? Yeah. I want to see him in an on Olympic gear. Did you see the little clip I caught on an Instagram of, I don't know who the guy is, that asked him like the heckler guy that's been on Instagram the guy that chirps,
Starting point is 01:01:43 I don't know what his name is. Anyways, he's out there and they're like chirping at Bryson as he's hitting balls and they asked him questions, Like the heckler guy that's been on Instagram the guy that chirps. I don't know what his name is anyways He's out there and they're like chirping at Bryson as he's hitting balls and asking him questions trying to get him to laugh and They ask him the question like does the PGA tour drug test and he backs off and like laughs like that's the one they got him In your way, I mean we don, that's a topic for a different day, but it's all legit, right? Yeah. We got to talk about the guy that blew out his knee.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Oh, yeah. He had to have the competition. He picked him up and took him off the screen. I don't know if it was a knee or pulled a hammy, but he went down hard and that was the guy that like Bryce and needed to beat to get into the top eight. Also, I had no idea those things for like four days long, I would have thought. So what's the difference between like the world-long drive
Starting point is 01:02:30 and whatever this was? I'm honest, honestly, I'm not ready to go down this, I'm amazed that Bryson did this. Still have no interest in going down this rabbit hole. It directs all inquiries at Atron Carter, and I'll you if you want, because I'm out on this world. But I mean, the dude brought the ratings,
Starting point is 01:02:47 like 40,000 people were watching this live on YouTube. Again, it was like 12,000 on day one, by the end of it, everyone was in on this. It was probably a hell of a lot more than whatever golf channel had on. Golf channel had a really good job of marketing. The long drive when they had it, like that was like big marketing,
Starting point is 01:03:02 leading up to a commercial, so like people tuned in because it was prime time and golf channel and private. It was always on like a Tuesday or Wednesday when no other life sports were on. Miscat Nevada. This was like a tough one being. Well, I feel like if you've seen long drive,
Starting point is 01:03:18 you've kind of seen them all. It's the only thing. Right, I don't think it gets like that much more different or much more exciting. Bryzen brought a different layer of excitement to it, but there's no design. You know what I mean? You just-
Starting point is 01:03:30 In the production of it, quite frankly, sucks. Those guys were great. They're commentators were great. Shout out to the more. They were great as they were for it. It was something. That was highly entertaining. The viewing, you'd watch them hit a ball
Starting point is 01:03:42 and you'd see a top-tracer thing maybe once every so often, and no ball speed numbers, no nothing, and you'd watch him hit a ball and like you'd see a top-tracer thing maybe once every so often and no ball speed numbers No, nothing and you're like just waiting for even all the yardages were so delayed Yeah, they could have been totally making them up like maybe I know what those guys Adoutsers remind me of though like somebody that has a tweet go viral and then all of a sudden they start plugging stuff underneath it Like as soon as they fed up 40,000 people were watching they're like, yeah, you could shout out my Instagram at, you know, heart long drives. This is like, yeah, I started this company and like they just like started hyping themselves
Starting point is 01:04:10 out. Yes, very quickly. I saw somebody on Twitter suggesting though that they could have easily been making up all of these numbers. You know, the whole Bryson thing could be total bullshit to where like, yeah, it's good point. He was hitting 365, but they wanted the ratings
Starting point is 01:04:24 that they wanted. I think and they wanted a good point. Pickin' up the guy next to him, yeah, I don't know. So, I don't wanna call the integrity of whatever this long drive thing. Was this the championship? This was the world, okay. This was according to Berkshire, this was he's training for worlds and this was worlds.
Starting point is 01:04:39 I assumed it was the world long drive championship. This was the pro long drive world championship. I don't know if that's the PLDA. I don't know if that's a professional long drive association something if that's different than what they used to do Which land in gentry was a local jacks guy He he audio bombed one of our videos. We're shooting at coastal indoor because he's hidden balls in the booth That's like gunshot like what's going on over we peek over the guys hitting like 210 mile an hour ball speed. And we're like, I was using, we were shooting a Callie video and he was using Callie
Starting point is 01:05:09 stuff. It's like, actually, can we just film you instead? This is actually a much better content. Much better commercial. You'll just peek door me. He's like, what the fuck is going on over here? So does Bryson play like this week?
Starting point is 01:05:23 Is he playing this week? And he's not. He's not. I know he's won that in the past. Does he play? Does Bryson play like this week? Is he playing this week? At Triners? He's not this week. I know he's won that in the past. Does he play? It's what? Two weeks in Vegas and then. Can't lay's not in the field this week either.
Starting point is 01:05:32 And can't lay always balls out of this thing, which kind of surprised me. I think the fall is going to be a ghost town. It's so whatever their allotment is of tournaments they have to play. And if they don't, they have to add a new one. I think that's why you saw these guys in the fall the last few years. They were adding the one new event that they didn't play. That's my personal opinion.
Starting point is 01:05:55 I don't know if that has any truth, but like that's my assumption is because they're going to play as minimum as they can and they got to play their one new event if they don't meet their minimum. Can't lay is like just freaking dominated this event and lives in Vegas, right? Doesn't need to go. I think he's still in SoCal. Is he okay? I think he's still out of Virginia country.
Starting point is 01:06:14 What a, thank you, right. Next, like next year to be interesting too, with the Scottish being co-sanction, the Irish being co-sanctioned, does that count as a new event for these guys too? That could take some of the pressure off of them as well. I think it will. You know, adding an event in the fall,
Starting point is 01:06:30 like Zozo is gonna be a fucking ghost town. Where are they playing that this year? It's in Japan. Yeah, they're doing it and being interesting. Yeah, I can't imagine, I mean, like they'll probably go all the way down to 125. It'll get deep. Some caddy changes being made at the highest level.
Starting point is 01:06:50 JT and bones teaming up as somebody who I would consider to be close to both of these guys. I did not have the intel on this one. Bones was nice to us to give the scoop when he was splitting with Phil four years ago. I don't know what I've done to run him away now, but I think it got out. He gave the scoop to his employer. That might be true. That might be true. That might have been part of his deal of golf channels.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Like, yeah, whoever you do end up on the bag, especially because he wants to keep doing a few events here and there. Did you see that? I do not. Whenever the schedule permits, so essentially whenever JT's not playing, he's assuming the same role that he had.
Starting point is 01:07:23 And I think he was always holding out for another bag. I think it was and in my mind, this is not inside info. It was either JT or Rory. I felt like that was kind of, I feel like he talks about those two guys differently on the telecast and I felt like there was there was opera potential opportunities there. You know, and he held out for it and he got it. So I'm here. I don't know. Do you guys think this changes anything for JT? I mean, I think it only helps his stock. Like I think just judging by the Ryder Cup and his his putting all year this year, like you need some help reading the greens, I think, or just just in confidence on the greens. I will say he he works the same putty coach and they put in a ton of work. And I I think it'll pay off. I really do like they, he was at the writer cup with me.
Starting point is 01:08:06 You guys probably even saw him there. John Grimms' name. But they have worked all year and JT's bought in. And I think it'll... Like the dark, the night is darkest before the dawn. Yeah, like it's, I think it's gonna happen. And it may get weird when it does. Like he may just go on a tear, especially with bones.
Starting point is 01:08:26 And like Jimmy was obviously great for him. I was gonna say, it's hard to be like, yeah, 14 tour wins, it's a 28 year old, it's kinda like, yeah, we didn't get a whole lot out of it. But he was great. And like I don't think bones can't hurt. That's all I say. And like I'm anxious to see what the other endeavors were
Starting point is 01:08:43 in the quote for Jimmy is. Well, yeah. And Jimmy's had some health issues and is getting up there in age, I don't know if it was always in the plans for this to happen. I truly don't know what that situation was. But I think if I'm JT, yeah, we're looking at 14 tour winds, but itself admittedly for him, his major record,
Starting point is 01:08:59 despite the one PGA championship win, is not what he wants it to be. And like, you want to do that can bring you some like major championship under the one, you know, PGA championship win is not what he wants it to be. And like, you want to do that can bring you some like major championship under the gun, Gus, like experience in terms of, you know, what makes a player elevate? And when you're trying to elevate the most, yeah, that's probably one of like one guys that are available out there to get you there. So yeah, the, the only one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:21 He won five times in 2017, won twice in 2018, twice in 2017 won twice in 2018 twice in 2019 twice in 2020 and We're probably not given enough credence to his players win because it was really it was nails It was Impressive, but you know, it just seemed like his like when he had his a game It was there, but when he had his big game it just like that wasn't competing this year. It wasn't consistent enough and I And it was on the greens like Like he would tell you that. And John, I'm not going to put words in his mouth, but I bet he would say that as well. I do know they put in a lot of hours and I would expect JT this year to really.
Starting point is 01:10:02 I thought the makes him the noise. The Instagram post that he had, it was like I 100% did not fire. He's like, all right. I think everyone just seems like an odd way to say it. But I bet like, if the news comes out that you're splitting with your caddy of X amount of years and you're going to bones, it looks like you fired your caddy to hire bones.
Starting point is 01:10:27 That's like the optics of it. No matter what happened, people are gonna be like, why'd you fire him? Like you played great with him all that and it's like, well, I didn't fire him. He had to get on the defensive early. Otherwise, it was gonna look like he just threw Jimmy Johnson on the bus or whatever.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Yeah, Jimmy, he is, I think caddy for I think, caddyed for I think 24 years now, and I believe if I remember right, he played 17 years on the Sunshine Tour. Like the guy's been around, he's been around a lot of golf courses and done a lot of golf stuff and had a great run. And I don't know if this was, you know, it was every time he missed an event, you know,
Starting point is 01:11:02 for whatever he had going on, it was kind of like, okay, how long is this gonna go on? And, and, and. When JT's dad had to hop on the bag, was that last year or two years ago? Cause it was just hot like, that was, gosh, that was, his agent had to hop on the bag in 2017 in Malaysia.
Starting point is 01:11:19 I followed the whole group for nine holes, walked in, go cool off for a little bit, and the caddy went down two holes later, and I probably would've gotten the call if I didn't go inside the cool off. But I probably would have also passed out. It was really hot. But I do remember I'm pretty certain it was bones. But on the 18th, this last week at the writer cup, he was like paying Jimmy's a ton of
Starting point is 01:11:41 compliments. He's like, he's in there, like getting his guy to the right number and convince him. Like it was, it was neat to hear bones, like, talk about Jimmy and then obviously what happened, but like just building up like he's got his guy and his guy's giving him the right stuff. Like it was, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:57 I saw Jimmy after they had finished and he had a drink and then they were sitting behind the 17th green. I was just chatting with him. He's like, oh yeah, best week of the year. I remember, now I look back at that very differently. Like did he, did he know he was done cadi and running off and stuff.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Yeah, I think that, you know, maybe he said, this will be my last event and then from there on, you know, whatever happens. But Bubba and Ted Scott also splitting ways after 15 years together. Wonder who's gonna get on that bag. That's gonna be an interesting hire. Yeah, Bubba's had an interesting spot in his career.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Just overall. I, listen, a lot of people were calling for you, you know, one final pray for Ted Scott tag. And you know, we've talked a lot of Bubba in the last couple months and years. And I don't, I think Bubba has evolved a lot to the point where I don't enjoy poking fun at him much anymore.
Starting point is 01:12:46 I'm not seeing Teddy. Yeah. He's an interview too. When he opened up about the depression and all that stuff, I was like, I mean, he still seems awkward enough. Yeah. One of my favorite fruit for it, but he seems a little more comfortable on his own now. He's got a hash me and that sucks.
Starting point is 01:13:02 I can't imagine. Yeah. He's 42. Turns 43 next month. I think, you know, you would think he's still got a few good years left in him. I don't know if he wants him. Yeah, I don't, I don't,
Starting point is 01:13:16 it's hard to tell what he's looking for. I think, you know, people are looking for a deeper meaning between him and Ted, not no longer being together. But I look at, I don't know if you can weigh on this, he was about, look, at 15 years, cadding for one player, no matter what level, like that's the, if you split after that, there's no questions asked. It's like, okay, that's fine. Like that's the exception to the rule to be on somebody's bag that long.
Starting point is 01:13:38 And it happens with everyone. I mean, filling bones, like at some point, it's over with. Like you just, both people, no matter how much you love the other person and love being around them, like you're just like, I gotta change it up. Yeah, for both of them. Like it not just for that lifestyle. It's not forever.
Starting point is 01:13:58 I mean, it's great to earn a lot of money if you're Ted Scott for that long period of time and you know, done that. But like after 15 years doing it, you might not just wanna be on the road every week. And even if not enough, I love my wife more than anything. But if I spent that much time with her for 15 straight years, I mean, those, you're logging eight hour days,
Starting point is 01:14:18 probably at least traveling every week, like all that. Like it gets, it, it, it's's a different scenario, but like it would get tough You know everything about them everything that hurts you is different than like an average But like that's just a business relationship like everything that bothers me about my wife I could talk to her about it and if you do it in a caddy and they just keep doing it like it just gets on your nerves Yeah, no matter what even if it's a small little thing like that just happens Do you think tell you'll keep caddy or do you think it like because he's like an instructor as well gets on your nerves. Yeah. No matter what, even if it's a smallest little thing, like that just happens. Do you think Ted you'll keep catting?
Starting point is 01:14:46 Or do you think, like, because he's like an instructor as well, he's a, I don't know. Does he have a family? Like, wife and kids? I assume I'm assuming too, but I, at this point, yeah, I think it's, especially if you've got a player like in their 40s and, you know, maybe they're dialing things back a little bit and you just, I don't know. I think it, I would got a player in their 40s and maybe they're dialing things back a little bit
Starting point is 01:15:05 and you just, I don't know. I think it, I would be, but a lot more curious of a decision like 2014. If in the middle it missed their success. They won two majors together, one more than 10 times together on tour, I think it's kinda. There was a time period where 90% of our content was making fun of the fact that Bubba used to harass Ted
Starting point is 01:15:24 and call him out and verbally abuse him on the golf course. But that's a different time period. We've moved on, Bubba's moved on. Ted survived the volvic. Like he's even survived Bubba playing a volvic for a year or two. Like I think people thought we were making fun of Bubba or Ted's religion.
Starting point is 01:15:45 I think it was like the favorite Ted Scott. I was like, that was never even in the thought process. It's like, yo, just like, on the outside looking in, it looks like he treats this guy like. Yes, yes, very much so. And it was kind of a sympathy for Ted Scott of anything, but whatever, moving on. Selene Boudier, final round 63 to win the shop right LPGA classic round down. Listen to this duo, Genyung Co and NB Park. That was a hitter's only golf tournament this weekend. Bad Bogey for Genyung Co down the stretch on
Starting point is 01:16:14 15 on the poor three, which would have been back to back wins for her. Is that right? Did you win the previous week? That's right. I wanted to show up Maria Fossi for a fifth place finish. She's kind of, you know, bottomed out a little bit and seems to have bounced back. That's in a very strong leaderboard, a fifth play that that fifth place finish stuck out to me. I think she I was I was trying to figure out a couple weeks ago, like how she's gotten so many starts and going back to the corn fairy, like, you know, talking about points versus money, before the LPGA moved to the points, they, like, I think her, her finish at the US open just propelled her to, you know, well above where she should have been points wise because the purse was
Starting point is 01:16:56 so inflated versus all the other ones. But yeah, I mean, good to see you're back with her. Patty, have a tannicate. Jody, you're at Shadoff, had a great week. I know she's been kind of battling back the last last year or two. Madeline Sagsstrom played well, but Selene, Bogey Free, 63. That's... I didn't see it. Where were they? New Jersey. Got you. Galaway. Which... Oh, the Lannister D. Yeah? Yeah. It sucks that they play these three round events. I'm curious as to why this is.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Is it money? It's so that the tournament can do 2 pro amnesty, which is the margins are tied on the LPGA tour. They've got to do that in certain spots. Now, for new tournaments, they have to be four rounds. Gotcha. I'm super stoked for the event this week. I think Mountain Ridge, Lauren Coggle was out there today.
Starting point is 01:17:51 She said the course looks awesome. And O'Cody and Randy played it earlier this year too. So I think this time of year, it's kind of like, gosh, there's only, there's, you're fighting it for so many other eyeballs in so many different places. Like, you know, if that's what you got to do to add tournaments under the calendar, three rounds, then it's kind of, you still kind of get that dramatic finish, probably even more likely in a, end of a three round event.
Starting point is 01:18:15 But anything else before we wrap it, anything else on your list, you see? They made Mid Am. I don't think we talked Mid Am. We did not talk Mid Am. It's still a great week. We'll be like our underdog story. The professional amateur. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Stuart Haggistead wins another US mid am at Sancady Head. Which is the perfect place for him to win it. Man, tuck it. You know, I want to give a shout out to the Florida zone and Jacksonville zone, Devon Hopkins made the sweet 16. Just an ultimate grinder. He'll be featured eventually whenever we get our gas But the Florida zone and Jacksonville zone, Devon Hopkins made the sweet 16, just an ultimate grinder. He'll be featured eventually whenever we get
Starting point is 01:18:48 our gas brilla content out. I play with him with the gas brilla and play with him a decent mountain jacks and guys extremely hard worker. And you know, he even is dead last at the Florida mid-AM this year and made the sweet 16 at the US mid-AM. Like that's just the kind of player he is. So, shoutouts out.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Where do you fall on the whole hackest ad thing? I mean, like, the guy works hard. He's obviously a great player, like hats off to him for that. I think the biggest issue the people have with him is like, he pretends like he works. I don't know enough about that. You know, I think the whole mid-AM scene is very... I was just back to throw back to Coochir. Coochir got off when I played with him. I think the whole mid-AM scene is very...
Starting point is 01:19:25 I was just back to, throw back to Coochir. Coochir got off when I played with him. He got offered a bunch of money to stay amateur. And I'm imagining it's something very similar to what Stewart has done. Like these big business, I don't know what you want to call him. Financial guys, whatever, they are like,
Starting point is 01:19:40 hey, we'll give you a job. We want to be behind you and we want you to be like the best we want you to be the best amateur, type deal. And Koozure turned it down to play obviously what he has. But I think that I'm not for certain, this is obviously just speculation, but I would be shocked if there's not people behind Stewart
Starting point is 01:19:58 that say, hey, we'll give you a job and pay you whatever and you play golf and you be like the next Bobby Jones. I feel like you. Well, I think that's definitely part of the deal. Yeah. But it's all I mean, it's also like he comes from an extremely wealthy family. Got it. Yeah. Which, you know, so that helps. It's it's it's like it's still really good. Yeah. And it seems like he's obviously really good, but he would be if we're talking about like corn fairy guys, he would just be in that group, right? If Cameron, if Cameron Young wanted to come out
Starting point is 01:20:27 and play mid-amp call, he would dominate it, right? And that's kind of where, when you're not dealing with a dude that is balancing like a full-time job really, you know? So like, what is that judge of, right? He just never turned professional, right? So it's not like, there's some of those dudes that play in this mid-amp stuff
Starting point is 01:20:42 that are legitimately work a lot and are There's a lot of commercial real estate agents and I want to you know insurance agents and all that and power to them too Like they've got families and all that whereas he's you know He's just it's not apples the apples. It's not but that's just kind of the mid-Amp game like I got a buddy I went to college with and he's got a family he works As a really nice job it works for Purdue Managing like their endowments and whatnot. So he works like full weeks, but he wants to be a top level
Starting point is 01:21:10 mid-amp player. And so he finds time to go play in some events and get lessons and has a simulator in his basement to try to make it work, because that's like his dream because he always competed, and which is tough to think about competing against a guy that just is very good and just gets to play golf all day. Like we do.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Like in theory, the top mid-AM should cycle out a lot. Like it should be really, you know, it shouldn't be, it's a tough format. I mean, a couple rounds of stroke play, then match play. Like anything can kind of happen. If you're winning a lot of this kind of like, all right, man, something might not kind of be right here. But I think part of it too is the fact that he's,
Starting point is 01:21:48 you know, doing the Ron Burgundy anchor, you know, just he's just anchoring all that. Just, well, I knew I knew we were going for one final dig in some way, but yeah, if I, if I was like competing in one of these and ran up against him, I kind of, I would be kind of like a really, really man, this sucks, but that's a across average, we get there. And it's not like he's, he's the only one that like amateur golf is rife with all these
Starting point is 01:22:11 reinstated. That's the thing. That's, I have a bigger issue with reinstated professionals in the mid-Amp scene. I think there should be some, some event that is, if you ever earned a dollar playing golf on a professional shot, you're ineligible for. That'd be, I can agree to an extent, but then you got a guy that plays all through college and turns pro, tries it for five, six years, whatever,
Starting point is 01:22:34 and realizes like, I'm not cut out for this, but I still love to compete. Like, did not have a chance at like the US mid-AM would suck. Which maybe that's not the minute, but like a different championship. And I'm okay with that. Yeah, because I agree. Like the experience you get playing professional.
Starting point is 01:22:48 Oh my God. Yeah, but the same time like it would suck to not be able to compete at a high level on an amateur level if you just played professional golf. Like that would be a kick in the pants. But it's also like for, like I go and play in some of these tournaments and I you know People like all great job. You finished 30 is like do these some of these dudes have dedicated like literal years of their life And made it their their income to do this sport like it's not we're not playing on a level playing field here It's definitely not apples apples on that one right Maybe cool if they did like a US medium type deal of
Starting point is 01:23:22 Sully and never professional entire amateur career. They should buy for a kid. And then they should do, well then they should do like a, versus like a one half is, like people that have played before and then one half's like the Ames and then you,
Starting point is 01:23:37 and then you meet the finals. Yeah, like Winner goes to the master's. It's just a match, it's like just match play that way and then you end up with like the best. And to be clear, this would not give it to the the Haggastad issue here because he's never been a professional, but there are just so many dudes that are like, oh yeah, you played on a corn fairy tour man, now we're playing the same. You played pro gol for
Starting point is 01:23:55 11 years now we're playing the same term. That's a little bit, it's like the same thing with like Omar, right with PGA, you know, that's a fair point. PGA of America, like he's not living the same day today. That we're on the wild. That's all that. Yeah. Rest in peace with your lines. Very interesting place to have the mid-AM, too.
Starting point is 01:24:13 I heard that the volunteer situation was a disaster because they couldn't get any volunteers because they're on an island. The lodging situation was tough. Can't stay off the island. You got to take a ferry to get to the island. We got Aaron Hills next year. Aaron Hills in Blue Mount is the other stroke play spot.
Starting point is 01:24:29 And then 2023, heater, sleepy hollow in the way. Dang, I may try to get in the mid-Ampster. No, see this, but I'm talking about those are some nice clubs. I will say next time, please don't do it during the Ryder Cup, because that, I did not even try to qualify this year because it was like, All right, well, I couldn't go anyways, but doing doing the I get and they change the day of the Ryder Cup.
Starting point is 01:24:50 So it's probably not their fault, but I was gonna say it looks like it's back to like that September like at least looking at I'm like a 2025. It's an it's an Arizona Trune Which is an interesting spot for it, but September 13 through 18 Let's see, next year. Right, the USGA has it planned out. Like, literally, one year. 17th year.
Starting point is 01:25:09 It's kind of wild. Yeah. All right, I think that about puts a pin in this one for thank you for joining us for a Sanderson recap, corn fairy recap. Uber thinks come by the kill house, sharing some brilliant insights with us. Honestly, how's your game?
Starting point is 01:25:23 What's going on? What's next for you? Second stage of Q Q-School in a couple of weeks. I got my third pick for sight. So I have never not got my first, got my third. But fortunately, I guess my third choice was in plantation Florida. So not too far and feels good. None of that I've been working hard.
Starting point is 01:25:41 Obviously, everyone has. But then log in some hours. And I think we're getting there. It's just like anything else. You got to go, you got to go play well no matter what site you get for second stage. You got to go make birdies. Typically, double digits is what it takes for four days. So hopefully, just go play solid. And I'd like to make it a little less stressful than I did at first stage, but I don't know. I'm excited. I'm excited that I played second stage twice at Southern Hills.
Starting point is 01:26:08 Got through both times. So now a new course, go learn it and you get through second stage and you go to final stage. Yeah, and to play some learning. You'll have status where the top 40 at final stage will get full cards and they're playing that in Savannah this year. It's a curveball It's just awesome at the landings, but not the courses. I guess yeah Two different courses. So yeah, all close and it's moved up a month earlier so the weather shouldn't be too much of an issue so
Starting point is 01:26:38 Looking forward to it really exciting time coming up So look forward to following along and thanks for thanks for coming by the kid. Last year did anybody see Harris English on game day? I didn't want I missed it. I watched I just I pick Kentucky. He was the one guy that picked Kentucky. Interesting. And one while he's Georgia guy that probably makes sense. But I bet P and P and J were or pissed off at that. He did get the call for that one from the winning rider cup team? And you know, and a huge noted endgame. That's right. You know, last weekend.
Starting point is 01:27:09 That's right. All right, well, we'll have some hopefully some interviews coming from the constellation Furek and Friends event here in Jacksonville, the senior tour event up here, which, you know, hoping to know down a few interviews this week, should be good if it all goes to plan. So we'll see. Otherwise, we'll see you back here next week. Cheers! Get a right club. Be the right club today!
Starting point is 01:27:32 Yes! That is better than most. How about it? That is better than most. Better than most. Better than most.

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