No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 497: Houston Recap + Lauren Coughlin

Episode Date: November 15, 2021

Jason Kokrak wins at Memorial Park in Houston while Nelly Korda survives a four way playoff to win in Tampa as the LPGA season winds down.  We break down both tournaments and then catch up with NLU Young Hitter Lauren Coughlin who secured her LPGA tour card for next season with a t-16 finish this week. Then we react to the news from the week in golf and a few listener requested topics as well.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No-Ling podcast, Sully here, back in the studio on a Sunday night after a week off sitting here with my guy, Neil Schuster, Mr. Riccarrito. Hello, Neil.

Good evening, Sully. Live from the Kill House. It's good to be with you. Good to be back on a Sunday night and calling in from the mountain time zone. All bundled up with a sweater on it's getting cold out west up there in the mile high city. Big Randy, hello, Mr. Big.

Hello, guys. Thanks for having me on. I appreciate you taking my calls. Happy to be here. I think it's officially Christmas season out here with the cold weather. I'm starting to see lights. Can't believe it. Randy, your sweater game has been pretty tight the last six or seven days. Every time I've hopped on the video with you, you're bringing some heat with the sweaters. I guess you're trying to keep that heat in. Keep the heat in. And you know,

my most productive days are when I make myself dress like I'm going to the office, even if I'm not going to the office. Love that. Where are some shoes when you work from home that helps a lot? It might be employing a bit of a... This sounds like a good ad read for sure. No, no, no, no, it's like a formal Monday. Oh, yeah. Come on.

Yeah, how's that going? It's not going good. It's not going good. Well, this part is the ad read, but it's really just to help plug our own content, which Callaway proudly supports, which is we have a new episode of our film room series up on our YouTube channel where Tron Carter has done what people have been calling for. He plays alternate shot with himself in Kansas City at Swoapark. T.C. obviously took a year to play left-handed. This came, you know, he did this several months

after his lefty experiment came to an end, went back and forth with a whole righty and lefty golf bag with his whole callaway set up. He played, I don't really think I know understand this. He plays the Chrome soft as a lefty, but the Chrome soft X as a righty had to decide what kind of ball he was going to play for it. Trying to figure out how to manage the glove situation,

which looked very uncomfortable. Trying to figure out, you know, glove situation, which looked very uncomfortable, trying to figure out she's just on double gloves the whole day. He should have gone with two gloves. Don't spoil too much if people haven't watched yet. That's true. Or no gloves, but that's something I never would have considered. That's something you learn getting in the film right. Also, the golf ball thing, the strategy,

went out the window pretty quick too. We were playing a truvis by whole two or three, so just to give you a little teaser of, it was not an easy assignment that TC took on there. But shout out to Calaway, of course, for their support of the film room series and the people have really, really enjoyed that. We appreciate you watching,

appreciate them bringing it to you as well. And the big guy and I took him on in the, you know, I mean, we were, we were, we were, we were, we were, we were trying to coach him up in the film room. I mean, there was some provocative stuff. I was pleasantly surprised with both, it was very volatile, the highs and the lows. I'm impressed that Neil is in a position now

to be a consultant of some kind on course management and golf course strategy. I say that unsarcastically. We've learned, the kid has grown up and learned some lessons. I do, it takes a while, but once I pick stuff up, I don't forget it. Okay. But that'd be a lesson to all of you. My favorite line I've heard is it all becomes very clear to me after the fact that could immediately after the fact. And I want to clarify that because I know that sounds super obvious, but I feel like there's

a lot of people when they're not playing well, they say, what am I doing? I don't know what I'm doing. Like I can't figure it out. It's for me, I would say most of the time it's, God, I'm so stupid. Like I know exactly what I'm doing and it's wrong. And that's the problem. Well, listen, a lot of people are watching a lot of live golf this time of year. We're going to talk some Houston open. We're going to talk some LPGA obviously talk some champions tour.

You know, had some wagers going on that. So didn't Mr. Big. Yep. Yep. And I would like to say I wanted to watch live LPGA and screw NBC in their contracts. They're terrible. What? This is brand new information for me. What was the issue here, Randy? I don't understand. They do such a great job week to week managing the fact that they broadcast every professional golf event known to man and don't have enough channels to put it on. Like the best leaderboard of the year on the LPJ and I think it's just coming on right now. Cool coverage. Yeah. I mean, don't spoil it for us.

Tape the legs. Yeah. Very salty. Anyway, sorry, Charlie. What a joke. So we threw out some questions. Certain people online, we're going to, you know, kind of take the back half of this, or maybe the middle half or whatever, and tackle a few topics.

That maybe aren't current events related, time sensitive, but we're gonna start with more current events and starting with the Houston Open all in 2020 and 2021 officially. Neil yet some takes before we came on here about Mr. Cochreck and of course, our sponsor of course by our friends at visit Saudi Jason Cocrack. I mean, straight up, you know, we, I think

the disc, I'd like to put a discussion to you guys. Dog officially dog, maybe a killer. I mean, three wins and 13 months now. And it's interesting because you know, a guy like Scottie Sheffler, who we love gets the nod for the Ryder Cup team I mean co-crap seems like he's a dog Scott Sheffler hasn't won a tournament yet, you know on the on the pro tour Doug, what do you think I know what Randy's gonna have to say about that? Oh my god I'd love this line of thinking I couldn't agree with you more think about all the prominent golfers that have never won three times in their career. You know, Neon, I don't have to tell you to get like Tony Femme out.

Oh my God, I didn't even see it coming. Right. Right? And for Co-Craft to win three times on tour in 13 months, it's very, very impressive. Preach brother. I think the guy absolutely deserves our respect. I am officially ready to label him a dog.

Maybe hanging with his Saudi friends. He may become a killer in time, but I'm not ready to go there just yet. Well, I would, the only thing I would give him credit for is here and the Charles Schwab challenge. Sunday goes out and gets it. Just shut, slam the door. You know, you go watched, you know, not as much golf as I probably should of this weekend, but it was like, I didn't really see Co-Crat come in yesterday when I'm watching. I thought it was gonna be, oh my God,

here comes Tringali. That's the storyline. Maybe he's gonna get his first win. Martin Schrainer, he's holding off the wolves. What's going on here? No, Co-Crat goes all in on the river and he comes away with all the chips, baby. I mean, he's got a fat stack at the table now.

He's pushing people around. He's nothing to have to go all in. He just, he just three bad and everyone to death. It's taken everybody's aunties and blinds. But why he still seems to be surprising people. Like, he's surprised, like, my reaction when I, you know, flip it on and I see him on 18. He's gonna win. I'm like wow I just you know and I watched earlier in the day and I put on some football for a while come back to it

And I just you know, I didn't see it coming. So I got a few things. I think That sense of surprise, you know, I think coke crack kind of falls in that Scott stallings Russell Henley I'm trying to think of some other contemporaries where, you know, they have, they have multiple wins, right? You know, three or more wins on the tour. I think in Coke Rags case, you know, he just has never been relevant at a major which I think goes a long way towards that. Oh, shit. oh, oh, oh, God, he's won three times. Like because he's never been there in the biggest events in golf,

I think that plays a part in it. And two, you know, he's 36. He was a bit of a journeyman up till his breakthrough. Last October, his first one on tour, but now he's, you know, he's got three of them. Just just on the earlier point, like not, I mean, like a guy like Xander has won four times in his career on tour. And you know what? Co-cracts won three times. All three of Co-cracts wins have occurred since the last time Xander

won. It's just, it's incredible. I'm, you're disparaging, of course, his T-17 finish at the 2020 US open his T19 finish at the PGA and a T23 at the 2019 PGA as well. I'm kidding. I'll come on. Okay. Thank you. I'm like, you're not really going to argue. No, no, no, no. Thank you. Who else is in that group though? I like what you're doing here of of PGA tour players. Like you're not a factor when the majors come around. We're not fearing you. We don't really need to count on you. But like PGA tour weeks, you can be that dude for a week. The first thing that jumped into my head,

but he is a major winner now was Gary Woodland. Because even now, even after winning the US open at Pebble, like I still surprised when he's climbing up the leaderboard. I was surprised he won a US Open for that reason. I'm with you. Yeah. So, but that's a great category of, of guy. I don't, I'm not talking about tour wins and no major wins.

We're talking about like you're not in on the scene in the majors, which we didn't move with. That may be a topic for the future, but you said, Henley there, who else came to engali is probably in that too. Engali, he has Scott stallings is a guy like that for me. Two other I would I mean, honestly, Martin trainer. Oh my God, he's got two wins and he almost got a third, you know, so like, you don't see you never see him come in. That's that's a crazy story. Like I'd love to break that

down. How about Jonathan bird, five PGA tour wins and only one top ten in a major. Just look that one came to mind. That's a lot of PGA tour wins. Yeah. You know who you know who just graduated from this group is a guy like Harris English has played really well in the last two US opens, but that's the only time he's really been relevant in majors. I would I throw, he almost is kind of out of this league, but Daniel Berger and Sam Burns a little bit in this league where it's like Sam Burns is one a couple times in the last 12 months and every time he wins, we're like, God, look at, you know, I remember you guys talking with Huber about the way he strikes it, the

way he drives it, you know, the way he puts it, like he's just, he's, you know, like got only good things coming from that guy. He and burger, you guys were comparing those two. But then I feel like when those guys win, it's always like, oh man, like we've been overlooking him for months. Like no one's talking about these guys. So hmm. I like it. Burns doesn't do anything yet in majors. Burgers got a couple, they had a couple of top 10s in 2021, but it hasn't really been a big part of the scene. So guys, we're overlooking maybe the guy,

and I hope he's listening, because I hope it just fuels him on 2022 and be a max. It's max. Yeah. Max, I mean, Max has been a complete non-factor in majors. This is not untrue, Big Randy, but you're gonna have to bear the bright eye. I hate it.

You know what I would love to be hate say I love I love to get max in the film room Oh, oh now you see right here now you see right here, you know He's just hanging out on the block not doing much just getting run over right here like what's this right here? What's his bullshit right here? You know run that back run that back you think that's gonna work at a gust You know and here he is again just lally gagging a three put up there. You know, he's not thinking about his leg, but he's not thinking about his speed. Unbelievable. Yeah. I'm sure this will be a popular, a popular podcast topic on, on around the circuit. When

we go to talk about Martin trainer, but can I, can I do it? Can I just run through his recent run of events? Do you want to hear it? Are you ready for this? Yes. Miss cut, miss cut, miss cut, miss cut, miss cut, miss cut, miss cut, T 58, miss cut, miss cut, miss cut, miss cut, miss cut, miss cut, miss cut, miss cut, T 44, T 56, miss cut, miss cut, miss cut, Miss cut, WD, Miss cut, T 47, Miss cut, Miss cut, Miss cut, Miss cut. Hold on, got a scroll past the Shriners. Miss cut, Miss cut, Miss cut, Miss cut, Miss cut, Miss cut, Miss cut, Miss cut, Miss cut, Miss cut, Miss cut, Miss cut, Miss cut, T 47 of the Genesis, Miss cut, Miss cut, Miss

cut, Miss cut, Miss cut, Miss cut, Miss cut, 34th at the Century Turn of the Champions, which was last Miss cut, Miss cut, Miss cut cut miss cut. That's is a OWGR page And then what T5 His T5 finish which I honestly hated see he bogeyed last two holes I believe the bogey 18 he I know he bogey 17 that was a yeah, he bogey 18 as well Does he know about the trainer act that we've done? I think he does. Somebody come, he was brought, he brought his attention.

Which for those that don't know on our weekly preview shows, if there's been some improprieties, like Sean not being able to count up all his bets or can't count up the money from his parlays, the trainer act goes into effect, which means you have to put all 100 nuggets on Martin trainer the next week. Which next week that he's playing.

Yes. Which would have been sick. Can you give some context, Oli, to like just Martin trainer? Because I know you have a good anecdote from back in the day. Like, like, help people. Like, what? Maybe they saw stuff on Twitter or for folks that don't really understand like, like, how's this guy even out on tour?

Like, like, what's the deal with Martin Drainer? I don't think I fully know, but I know he won twice in 2018 on the web.com tour at the time. Now, of course, the corn fairy tour flips over into 2019 and wins the Puerto Rico open by three shots. And I don't have like, many people would say that's a curse. Right. Now it's been limited. You see that, that was the best, that was the best thing going in golf. And like since then, it's basically been like what I read out, like he just not a, not a consistent performer week to week,

but has this ridiculous ability to get crazy, crazy hot. He had a decent sized lead at one point this weekend. And it just, every time I looked up at the screen, it did not look like it was going great, trying to get the ball in the hole and trying to manage it on a difficult golf course, which we can talk about as well. But I forget who even said it,

which I don't, again, I've said this before and I would not, this is not my words and I 100% do not agree with it. I just didn't act to Martin, I hope he realizes. I don't agree with it. I really, really don't. But someone, I actually do know who said it, but I won't name their name said he said, so you would beat Martin trainer five out of 10 times, but like one of those times he's going to beat your brains and so bad that like you won't

even be able to see. And I don't agree with that. But like his this thing is like he's not a good consistent performer week to week, but yet is totally capable of winning golf tournaments a bit against. I'm not going to say the best in the world, but there's a lot of really good players in the field this week and played good enough almost to win. So I want to be clear that I have so much, so much respect for someone that can go. What was that like O, basically, O for 40 is what it sounded like with a couple of top 40s, like,

like, barely making the cut and have the mental fortitude to stick with it and then go out and be like, you know what, literally one of these weeks is like, it's like what Max said on the NLU pod years ago, like, today is the day we set the course record. Yeah. Today is the day, like, every day, no, he could be this week. You just never know. I know that player's in there there like I I can't even comprehend that that's unbelievable He's played 81 PGA Toravans. He's made the cut in 14 of them. Oh my god. That's incredible It's insane and he want it. This is his second career top 25 today this week

The other one being the win at the Puerto Rico. I thought he had two wins. Was I brought to you one wise on the web.com tour. All right. So that's my mistake. Just one win. I Was rooting for him to win. I think that'd be so sick. I am a hundred percent rooting for this guy when he gets into cut Me too. I know we kind of you know the trainer act where you know it seems like we're making fun of them Which but it's like I, when you boil it down, it's like unbelievable. Like I got crazy respect for it. I hope you realize it's much more laughing with him

than at him, right? Because he's got to, there's no way he can keep this up without having, you know, kind of a good attitude about himself and, you know, the, you know, with, with about himself and you know the And like with about the state of his game with you know like Tron and how he talks about Tringali Right, it's like the literally exact opposite like a guy that's done nothing but top 10 top 20 top 30 For years and years and years, but can't get a win It's like that like those are the those are the two sides of the spectrum and I was kind of rooting for

It's like those are the two sides of the spectrum. And I was kind of rooting for a showdown down the stretch. And then guess what? Co-CRAC comes in and just, you just murder everybody. You just have to execute some all. Unbelievable. Yeah, it's not very kind. Really wasn't very kind. No, I'm with you 100%.

Every time you read off one of those miscuts, remember there's a flight on the front end of that, a flight on the back end. there's a ranging your hotel, there's a ranging your room, there's practice rounds, there is like so much that goes into that week to week. You gotta sign up for that shit. There's not a dime, there's not a dime made. It's just money going out.

Oh, hopefully it has some year. Off course earnings coming from sponsors and whatnot, you know, and I just don't understand how you could Like you know, stay the course or not get down because it's not like like you said term of the champions 34th like dead last Right, it's not like it's all we're right there. We're you know as Randy and I have been playing a lot of tennis It's not like he's losing a doose, right? I mean he's getting getting smoked on service games and he's getting broken. That's tough scene. I mean, he's made less than $100,000 last two years on tour. 21, he had 28 starts and he made $60,000.

It's incredible. What a guy. I love stories like that. I know, I know. What makes pro golf such a special sport? I'm right there with you, big guy. He finished last in that tournament, Champions by eight as well. Like it wasn't, it's amazing.

Like it really is amazing, but like that's the, keep throwing shots at the board is, like we're gonna talk to somebody later in the show when she calls in for like understanding the probably somewhat thin line of like whether or not, like trying to figure out whether or not I can do this out here and like, oh, 100% I can. And actually, at times, how thin that line can be.

And we will discuss that when she does call into the show here. It looks like it's gonna be very soon here. And it's, that's what's crazy. It's like, there's guys that we know here in Jacksonville that are talking about hanging it up that like a few years ago, we're like a back nine away from getting their tour card.

And it's just, it's crazy the volume of those guys. So. And yeah, just a typo on it. Like, and Martin trainer is basically could be so many guys, right? But he got hot at the right moment. He put four rounds together, like he, all the many tour guys we know are,

I think like capable of that in some way. And yet, it just happened for Martin, you know, which, I know it's just fascinating. Hope he stays hot. I know it sucks that the false thoughts come to an end now, but who knows. Like all those guys dream and it's like, that's like Martin Trainers, like, that's kind of what they're hoping for. It's like, just get hot one week and then who knows. What do you guys think of Memorial Park? Watch on TV. The first thing that jumped out to me was the size of the greens. I felt like they

were showing a lot of par three shots and there was just like massive pinnacle areas and like the par three is going from like could be a hundred and fifty yard shot or a hundred and ninety yard shot. So I like to see the pros play, you know, something like that, which is, I think that dictates a lot of strategy. I see guys in their yardage books, kind of standing over shots for a little longer than you would expect them to. Just a little bit of lack of comfort, the firmness that it's played for each of the last two years, the short grass around the greens. I think it scores being as low as high as they were this time around. I think it's a perfect, great fall event.

It's taken advantage of some really good conditions in Houston. And I think it's a great addition to the tour calendar. And it would be great if they were playing more Texas events in this time of year. I know. Well, it just, it does suck though that it like, no one's watching, No one's paying attention.

It is true. But the golf courses feel like this is when they're, they are totally primed down there in Texas instead of when they're, you know, playing them before the masters and it's just a, it's a, you know, slopfest. 100%. Before we get to our guests who I believe is waiting in the green room here, football fans, if you are not, hopefully you are ready to score some free bets. Now you can bet when you bet on any NFL game this week with the draft

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We have a lot of content that we have to do. We have a lot of content that we have to do. We have a lot of content that we have to do. We have a lot of content that we have to do. We have a lot of content that we have to do. We officially an LPGA tour member for the next year. Lauren, welcome to the podcast. How are we celebrating tonight? Um, I just had dinner with my grandmother and my sister. Um, so yeah, my sister was in town just visiting my grandmother. She lives like an hour, 20 minutes south of where the tournament was. And so my sister had never seen me play golf before in person. Really?

So yeah, she's like not much of a golfer at all. Like pretty much like doesn't want anything to do with it. But she came out to sport today. So it was awesome. Yeah, we just had dinner and going to have some more drinks probably when I get back in the house. Some more drinks. I like that. There'd be if there's been some drinks, uh, you know, consumed.

What do you ram off say? Oh, Kremut, of course, was super happy. Um, I mean, she's in on it, but not too much. My grandfather was the big was, you know, the one that got me and golf. He passed away three years ago. So he was really like the main one, but she keeps it on in his legacy. But she's not a golfer either. She just knows like the bare minimum. Well, for the listeners that aren't familiar with your story or your background or any of this or why we care so much as well, tell us a little bit about your journey and professional golf and how big of relief and why your smile is so big on your face right now that we can see. Yeah, so I graduated University of Virginia in 2016.

Went to Q school that year, got status on smetro tour for 2017. Only made a few cuts, really didn't play good. Wanted to quit. didn't quit, went to Q school, got my card for LPGA that year, and then kind of the similar thing didn't really play great at all in 2018, my rookie year on LPGA, only made four cuts, only made $12,000, and I kind of really hit rock bottom towards the end of that year, like really only went to Q school because I had already paid for it.

And so I was like, well, I kind of can't really, I already paid for it. So I can't get my money back. So I'll go again. And kind of again was like, if I don't get LPJ status, like I'm done. And ended up getting cast status again at Q series, the first year they had it, and have kind of been conditional ever since for LPGA. And then I started conditional again this year. Played a few symmetrical events, just kind of get ready, a few monocle fires didn't get

through, but gotten, gotten to Hawaii, and then made the cut there, which kind of re-shuffled me for the rest of the year. And so I've been playing LPGA since about May, but I just kind of ran out of starts towards the end of the year. I mean, I was really playing really, really good golf and I really, truly believe that I just, if I just got one more opportunity, I would get it done. And so, you know, came and had a blast with you guys

this past weekend at the MIT. Yeah, more than that. And then more than that. Yeah, I see the a blast with you guys this past weekend at the MIT. He had more, he turned the other way. And then more than that. I see the jacket to the back of this video shot that we could see. It is, right there. It's right there. It's right back there. But yeah, and then yeah, I just didn't even see the golf course on Sunday.

And we're ready for the practice room for the Monday. Just told Katty John, just kind of tell me where to hit it, and I'll hit it. And so he kind of went and walked it. I was just kind of more just getting used to the greens and just hit a few balls just to make sure, well, one, because I had just played it like 30-mount hour wins for a few days. So I needed to hit some full shots, not punch shots, like I had for like two days straight. And yeah, I just kind of told me where to go and where you want me to hit it.

I'll hit it there. And then I did and I started making some puts and ended up shooting me like a 30 footer on 17 to get to 300 and win, win the Monday. And then again, similar thing I only played nine holes on Tuesday because pretty, you know, the Monday takes a lot out of you mentally and not really physically, but mentally more than anything. And then so didn't even ever see the back nine. Again, just told Katty John, tell me where you want me to hit it.

I'll hit it. And yeah, the definition of young, young hitting right there. Just tell me where you want me to hit it. I'll hit it. But so, but tell like set the scene here for us, right? You say you're running out of starts coming into this week. You are not in the pelican this week.

You are sitting at 106th on the race to the CME. You are looking down the barrel of going back to Q series. And you Monday into this tournament. First of all, what's it like? You're playing for your job as a Monday and then also every round this week. What's it like playing, is it any different than a week to week,

a normal week on the LPGA tour? Yeah, I mean, I feel like I was pretty good. Like Monday, I don't think I was super stressed at all. Cady Johnny even told me, you know, that I looked different out there. He said he never sensed any kind of nerves or anything, and I think that's more of a testament just kind of the mental space that I was in,

coming into it, and more just like the belief in my game that I didn't think that anybody out there could beat me. And in the Monday, specifically, like I didn't think anybody could beat me out there. So as long as I played my game, that would be fine. And then, yeah, but then, you know, come Thursday, I'm two over through four. But again, I, but then, you know, come Thursday, I'm two over through four. But again, I just kind of, I don't know, just things kind of start clicking and then I end up shooting like five under that first day and I was just so jacked up from that point on.

It was more just like trying to keep myself level. A lot of it was the rest of the rest of the day. I mean, the next day it was a little bit, but I had gotten so far ahead that I wasn't really worried about the cut so much. I was thinking about other things, but that back then today was, my heart was going for sure. I actually looked at my whoop before, because I was on a tee-doth on 18 today, and I smoked my drive.

Nelly, or I mean, sorry, not Nelly, Jess and Gabby kind of hit it, especially when I was into the win. They would hit it probably like 15, 20 by me, but I was right up with them on 18 today. And then I even told them, I was like, dude, I could feel my adrenaline, like my heart is going. And I looked and it was,

it spiked big time there. What did they say when you said that? Cady John. Yeah. I mean, he was just trying to keep me, keep me calm as much as possible, but it was more like, it wasn't a nervousness. It was more just like a adrenaline because I was pumped up. So I wanted to get it done. And I had like, I had 159 yards into, into the wind, but mainly with a little bit of left to right into it and water short I had 147 cover. And he could I could tell he kind of wanted me to hit six, but I was like I just even with my journal and I just you can't tell me to, you're not going to convince me to hit that. I was like, I'm just literally just going to try to cut this my, my five hybrid, which we call fiddle. I mean, I'm going to cut this fiddle in there and like, it's below my feet.

It's going to take enough off of it. I really, really think so. So he's like, all right, do it. Let me see it. And yeah, I mean, it cut like 30 yards, which took a tone off of it and ended up hitting a couple of yards short. And I had like eight feet for birdie. So after that, walking up, I felt like I was like, I had just like one the golf tournament. I kind of knew I kind of just I was trying not to watch a lot of the day just because I didn't want to get in my head, but I'd kind of figured out that like, I think I could bogey and be okay.

So once I hit that shot and I knew I had like eight feet, I think I could bogey and be okay. So once I hit that shot and I knew I had like eight feet, I was like, all right, I'm good. Taking it back to last weekend at the NIT, the three-hole shootout, which is you against seven other flight winners, standing on the first 12 of the three-hole shootout where you nervous at all.

A little bit, yeah. Not as not quite as nervous as I was those last couple holes. But yes, I definitely was there was some adrenaline and stuff going for sure. So the people know Lauren hit it in howling wind to what 15 feet for Eagle on a on a reachable par four to first first T shot of the of the shootout next week. It'll be 10 feet the next week. It'll be four feet. Yeah, it was like it was like 30. Okay, fair enough fair enough.

Well, and then you yeah, you had some fun anecdotes this week. I know you said it was like the first time you've ever really been interviewed post-round. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, what's that like? Was that surreal? I mean, you had some people out there following you today. You had your own fan group out there. I'm sure you signed some autographs.

Talk to me about kind of the feeling of a lot of firsts this week. Yeah, I mean, I was only a couple back after the first round was what, which was awesome. I mean, I had seven birdies in the eagle in that first round, which was a lot. So yeah. It was crazy. But I remember after that first, or was it the second? I don't even remember

when I got interviewed, but I had been interviewed after like Sometra events before, but it's just like one media person who's just kind of like recording it on their phone, nothing like, not like Beth Ann Nichols and Stevie Banks and some like some cameras and stuff like that had never happened before. So that was pretty awesome. I mean, I think it just more reconfirm just like how I felt my game leading up to this week and yeah, it was a lot. I mean, I handed out a lot of golf balls to little kids, signed autographs for sure, took some pictures. Yeah, it was great. It was a lot of golf balls to little kids, signed autographs for sure, took some pictures. Yeah, it was great. It was a lot of fun.

That was really the whole goal was just trying to enjoy this week as much as I could, even with all the stress, I guess the stress going into it, but just trying to enjoy it because it was basically a bonus. Your 106 heading into this week, you need to get into the top 100 to get your card. Is that that's the number you're looking at? And when you Monday to end, did you know,

like I need to get top 20, I need to get, like what is it a guess based on like, you know, the other people in the top, you know, from 100 to 106, like it's obviously a, you know, moving target. But by Sunday, you knew what you had to do. I tried not to look at it. Husband John had it all figured out. He didn't want to be in the room.

There's the don't know. Her caddy and her husband are both named John and they're different people. That's why there's caddy John and husband John. Yeah, and there's also coach John too, but I'll just have to say that point. But he, John Pond had figured it out. He told me, but I told him I didn't wanna know because I thought if I worried about it too much, I would just kinda stay right around there and not do any better.

And so he didn't tell me. He had it all figured out. But I had kind of... He posted about it. We all were, T-24 better and we're good. We knew. We knew. Yeah, yeah. Again, I tried to stay away just because I

knew if I knew it would really get in my head. So I didn't I didn't want to know. What changed for you on the back half of this year? Because it seems like you in talking to you, you and I, you'll be talk all of us talk to you on a near weekly basis. Your confidence seems to have evolved greatly from even five, six months ago. I don't know when the turning point was or what was it. What was it if there was something and how can you speak to, you know, realizing the talent that you do have? Yeah, I mean, I spoke about it in that interview, but I was basically, I think I hit rock bottom in terms of my pletting at KPMG.

And more just like knowing how good I hit the golf ball. Like I. I just saw it and I was like, wow, like I thought I was like, there's no way I should have missed this cut. Like I hit the golf ball so good. There was no way that I should miss this, miss this cut. And so that was kind of, I think, where I hit rock bottom. And I just started talking to people a lot.

You know, I was talking to you guys, Sally, Neil, I was talking to my husband, I was talking with my coach, I was talking with Katty John, I ended up talking with Barbara Tella, Mark Sweeney of Aimpoint. I just started talking about putting a lot with people and what I feel when I'm over the ball on the pudding green. and what I feel that I'm over the ball on the pudding green. And basically what would happen was, is I would miss a putt and I would automatically just assume that I was the reason I missed the putt. I would automatically think, oh, I pulled it, I pushed it, you know, I hit it too hard, it didn't read it good, like whatever.

I would automatically assume it was something I did. And so, when you do that, like, I could have hit it perfect put and it just hit something. And so talking with Bob Rattello a few weeks ago and Beth Ann wrote about it, like the three club challenge, like I think just finally just like clicked in my head that there's absolutely nothing wrong with my stroke. I just need to go and just get the ball in the hole and not assume that it's me.

Rotella had me watch this like hour long putting video of him and Faxon talking about putting and my main takeaway was, Faxon judges whether he made a put about whether or not he's stayed, basically stayed in his process. If he stayed in his process, he considered it a make whether or not, whether or not he made it or not. And so I think I kind of just took that over a little bit and I stopped really like picking a point on where I was aiming and more just feeling it aiming, more just aiming firing on based on feel and all of a sudden they started to go in at home and I went and played a fun round with some friends and I shot like six on there and then

I saw it happen in some more at the NIT, you know, like because it was still like a tournament round for me and so seeing it go in in like a tournament round just kind of really reinforced that it was working and then it happened again at the Monday and so I just kind of just kept seeing more and more and more stuff of confirming what I was doing was right and so I think that was really kind of all the whole combination of everything that happened. So finishing 97th on the CME that gives you essentially entry guaranteed entry into all the early season LPJ events? Is that the big takeaway then? Yeah, I mean, pretty much I'll always pretty much any full fill event I'm going to get into. So like the priority list goes one through 80 on current year money

and then it goes one through 10 on Smetra and then 80 one through 100. And then the only way I'll get bumped is by people in the current year top 80 on the money list. So I mean worst case, I don't I mean, I don't think I'll get bumped much. I'll pretty much I'm pretty much guaranteed every single bit next year, not a major. Hell yeah, God, that's I mean, that's sweet. That's all we needed. What kind of pressure?

That's all I needed. You've been playing so good as like, we just need to, you need to be in the event. That's all we need. Yeah. Exactly. So that changes everything, right? You can set your schedule, you can,

like it just gives you room to breathe. Like what is that truly, like truly meaty as a professional? Like do you feel like you've, you know, and like just, I just want to know like what that feels like. Is it just a giant, like, sigh of relief? Yeah, for sure. I mean, it's the first year I haven't had to go to Q school in my whole career.

So that's a huge accomplishment. I'm really, really glad to not have to go to Q school. I mean, I think I was talking to my parents and they're like, well, your final, like your final, the final round today was basically like, Q school for me. It was really what it ended up instead of having to go do eight days of it. I only had to do a day of it or this week pretty much. Let's say starting Monday, you were in Q school.

Really? You're playing two jobs for five straight rounds. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, I think it still hasn't like quite something because I'm still like just pretty like just jacked up about it. But it's for sure. I mean, it's just a huge relief to not have to do that. It's a huge relief to know that I can pick where I want to play next year. It's a huge relief knowing that. I'm just I have a place to play all year.

You get to enjoy the holidays. Yes, I don't have to go the first second week of December down to Alabama. Any I know you said majors accepting any events that you have not played in on the LPJ tour that you're particularly looking forward to I did play like a full year back in 2018 my rook year I did play like a full year back in 2018, my work year. Again, minus the majors. I really would like to get in the A&A or the now Chevron. I haven't played in that. I know it's a major, but I'm excited to play LA again. I really like Wilshire Country Club.

I'm really excited to play there. I'm hoping I can do well enough and get into Vegas. That would be sick for the match play. But those are the main ones. I mean, all of the majors I haven't well enough and get into Vegas. That would be sick for the match play, but those are the main one I mean all of the majors. I haven't played a British or a Scottish Scottish would be sick to be able to get in that would be really cool You might have to make a trip out of that Yeah, I mean, I don't want to put any pressure on you either learn, but you know that new event since an adi I better see

Okay, All right. Awesome. Well, on behalf of all of us here, thank you for making the no laying up. Young hitters program. Very proud. We're extremely excited for you. We can't wait to see what's next. This is just a stepping stone because we know what you're capable of and truly can't

wait to see you just ball strike that toward a death next year. So I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm not be happier for you. Yes. Congratulations. This is like truly awesome. May, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may, may I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited.

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as not a parent. I mean, I'm refreshing all the carcin' like, why are you on your phone? I'm like, I'm looking at the LPGA leaderboard back off. I was playing in a tournament refreshing it. She made two bogies. I was dying. I couldn't in his herdiment refreshing and she made two bogies. I was dying. I couldn't take it. But I know.

Uh, that's very on the Pelican note. How much of the, uh, the Pelican were you guys able to catch well on the live stream there? Big. Oh, well, I, I was able to, honestly, between the live stream on, on our message board, the refuge folks were, it was a very lively live thread with tons of updates. I was following on Twitter. I was trying to get I was refreshing

the leaderboard. I was trying to get information from as many sources as possible. It was a hell of a tournament. I know Lauren was kind of number one her story number one in our minds. But tons on the line and it came down to it. Four way playoff some theatrics at the end. It was, that's why me is just a shame that it just wasn't on the line.

I found golf channel because it was such a good event with like pretty much all the marquee players in contention. And I ask you like, I feel lucky that I have you guys, I hit the slack show, like serious question. Like, am I able the slack channel, like, series question. Like, am I able to watch the L.F.G.A? Like, because I was on a bike ride, I came back, I was like, I'm basically, you know, I guess I could search for it, you know, but it's like, it just sucks. Like, if you're just an, you know, casual fan, you're like, oh, I want to check in on this.

You have to, you have to do the work to find it, to log in, to get a stream, to what a, it's just a lot of friction. And that's tough. Yeah. It's not great. I wasn't able to catch it until really the 17th hole today. And then I look up and Nelly Corta makes a triple bow on 17 from the middle of the fairway.

She missed a gimme after and Lexi Thompson had a four foot par putt maybe on 17 to hold it to keep a two shot lead going into 18. Nelly has now fallen to behind Lexi and there's a another group at 17 under Lexi, you know, it's a okay second shot into 18. It's a great lag put up to about four feet again as a four footer to win the tournament. Doesn't sniff the whole. Nelly drills a drive, drills a seven iron in there, drains the birdie putt. Now we have a four way playoff with Nelly Corda, Lydia Co. Sayon Kim and Lexi. They all go all major winners, four major winners. Sayon Kim and Lydia Co had both chipped up decently close on 18 and Lexi has a five footer. You know, she's in tight. She's got

five feet, maybe six feet for birdie. Nelly's got the same punch she had in regulation. Drains it again and Lexi this time doesn't hit the whole again on the left side. It just like, I don't, I, I'm pretty indifferent to Lexi. I don't root for her. I don't root against her. And man, it just feels like this happens so freaking off and with her. It's, it's painful.

It makes me uncomfortable to watch. She's for sure got some demons. We saw it at the US Open at Olympic. So one of those things where honestly, it makes it compelling, but almost in a car crash kind of way. Like you just can't take your eyes off of it. I don't know what's next for, but she just obviously doesn't look comfortable, you know, over short butts, especially when they really matter. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, but, uh, which is what? Explain to the people. Well, for me, I, I, first of all, you just got to admit it, right?

I think when I started on brace, like, you know, I, I suck. Like I really have a problem here. Uh, and then you can begin searching for answers. And for me, it settled on a, a variation of the claw grip and, you know, I, I, I don't, and I'm better. Now that was, that was kind of, I don't know. You still do it, but I think I'm better. Now that was that was kind of a phase. Okay. Yeah, that was that was like beta testing, you know, we had to go through that to get out

the other side. Yeah, I don't envy her. You know, I think she's got a face that she got a problem. Hopefully the only way you're fixed is you have to radically change things. And it will be interesting, you know, what her putting stroke looks like next year. She needs the paddles, huh? She's got a shock, the, uh, shock, the system.

She's got a shock, the system. That's exactly right. So a lot of people ask me about this is not even an ad about the truvis, the soccer ball, balls that I love to use. Like, what do you like about them? I'm like, well, I like them because I put really well with them. It helped me learn how to read putts. It helped me blah, blah, blah.

So when I put poorly with it, I feel like an idiot, okay? Like I feel like, oh yeah, because I put really good. And then you miss four footer, you're like, well, okay, that feels dumb. That's how I feel with Lexi with the glove while you're putting. Like, it's not working, right? So why are we still wearing the glove? I cannot understand that. It's time to give that up.

That feels a little bit like a vanity thing though. Like, I don't know, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know if that's possible. I don't know if that's possible. I'm throwing our putts offline or making her have bad reads. I think, don't look good. I'll tell you that.

Bad, it's not helping, right? It's not helping. That's where I'm at. It's like, we're talking about it. Yeah. I think you could take the glove off's like, we're talking about it. Yeah. I think you could take the glove off for some, if you're trying to feel around the whole a little bit better, have a little bit better touch, I think the glove can come off. I would like to say, I mean, guys, is this one more, you know, one more step on the road

to 11 for Nelly? You know, I know it's not a major, but like, God, seeing the ball go through the hoop multiple times, I think 11 majors is, I'm feeling really good about that. I'm feeling really good about over. And that's what I was going to say. You know, this win for Nelly, it does a few things. Like it's obviously anytime you win, it's a big deal. But she jumps back ahead in the player of the year race, which on the LPGA, the each year's winner of the player of the year award gets one Hall of Fame point.

Their, their Hall of Fame is total merit-based. You have to accrue 27 points. So it's a, it's a big deal. She's 10 points up on Jin Young Co. Essentially Jin Young Co has to finish first or second next week at the tour championship just to have a chance. And, you know, Nelly, depending on where she finishes, could take away that chance. So it fourth one of the year, plus a major, you know, a major in there, plus the Olympic gold medal. It's, it's the coming out party for Nelly that everybody was waiting for. Let's go, baby. Yeah. Neil, to your point, I think we go to work on 11 starting next off as 11, man. Fast forward. I truly love it. Like, I hope that this, this, what you call it a bit, if you want, last for the next decade. I, this is my favorite.

It's going to be, this is a great storyline for me to just keep doing NLU in perpetuity until Nelly gets to 11. And then, then I'm hanging with up. I'm retiring. I'm going into a different field. Throw the Richard Nixon, you know, peace 100% like that. I'm retiring. I'm going into a different field. Throw the Richard Nixon, you know, piece 100% like guys, I'm sorry. I'm just gonna, I'm gonna phase myself out here.

You guys ready to get to some news? Sure. I know this news that just, you guys just seen how excited Randy was for this. He cannot wait to plop down in front of the television and watch something that the PGA tour has announced very vaguely or has an announcement. Excuse me, exclusive from golf week. And of course it comes from Aiman Lynch, the guy the hardest working man, hardest working

scoop getter in golf at the PGA tour plans to create a series of lucrative international tournaments that will offer guaranteed money to the world's best players. It intends to stage between four and six events annually outside of the US in Europe, Asia and in the Middle East. It will begin in the fall of 2023 at the earliest, though possibly not until 2024. Details are still to be determined on this, but the only thing we do know is that they're gonna offer the top players guaranteed money.

Gosh, yeah, I don't know. I'm not reading too closely in between the lines here of any fans that are asking for this. So it's an international WGC. Basically, it's a worse, but that's, I mean, it's, it's like, it lacks imagination. It, it, it's just rinse and repeat. No, it's just, it's pure like panic and reaction to what the PGL and the Saudi League are doing is what it reads like to me is like, Oh, God, we got a problem. Oh, yeah, no, we're going to do a series. Yeah, yeah. We're just going to start. Yeah, let's

say fall 23 at the early days. Who could say at this point, you know, a lot of moving pieces. you know, a lot of moving pieces. Yeah, just is like, oh my God, they, they are, it feels like to me that the tour has like painted themselves into a corner almost with, you know, you got your marquee players that obviously feel like they deserve and want more money. And there's no built-in apparatus as of right now to like get them that money. Golf has been merit-based forever and ever. And so we're kind of seeing on the fly, these outside groups plus the tour, all trying to figure it out as they go along. I don't have a lot of confidence in the tour

coming up with great ideas. I mean, I figure if they, the group that's kind of gotten them to this point isn't going to be the ones to miraculously save the day. I think it would take some really fresh leadership outside ideas, minds, but we'll see. I don't know. What do you guys, Sally? What do you make of this? I mean, you pretty much nailed it.

I once thought, all right, at minimum, the PGL threat, and this is before the Saudi League even came, you know, even into existence, or I don't know if it does exist. I don't know, I'm super confused. I once thought, like, all right, you know what? At minimum, this is really gonna drive things to change on the PGA tour, and we're gonna reap the benefits from it.

And I am off that bandwagon now, because I think it, and even listened to, we did an interview with Justin Thomas this past week. You know, he had the line in the interview saying something about it's about making the product better. And it's just like crystal clear now and it should have been clear. It's been semi clear to me for quite some time that we have very different images of what the product means because for the players, the product means

that paper. And for at no point, no one is talking about making this sport more entertaining to watch on television. No one's talking about that. It's all about funneling money to these top players. And if anything, and from what I'm hearing about what's going on in the television contract world and the developments, they know the tour are going to be taking over the broadcast, but that's going to at least take a couple years for that to come into existence. The new broadcast deal with all the money going up, golf channel cutting costs, all this stuff, it's truly only gonna get worse. And like all of the bitch you can complain about, we've done over the past five years,

is just like falling on totally deaf ears and it's the television product is. But if you boil it down, no cut events is their answer to rewarding the top players. Right. Are those inherently guaranteed money? Is that no cut? Well, guaranteed money. Are those a bad idea? Like, let's, I want to boil it down to like the, like, maybe like root units. Is that a bad idea or is it just because the broadcast remains the same? They're not any more exciting than they should be like, if you change the broadcast,

would that be a better vehicle for golf fans? I think that's the only change in vehicle that can, unless you start going to really interesting role Melbourne style golf courses, the only way to do this is like a true investment in like presenting it in a way that doesn't make you want to blow your brains out. Like, I'm serious. You can't sit there and watch, I can't sit there and watch that many commercials.

Like there's no golf that, there's almost no golf that's worth that. I mean, that's not even PGA tour. Like PGA championship has passed here was like the same commercial load and with an incredible tournament going on and you couldn't stay with it. And where would I like that was what I thought the the pit program was the PIP that that

Hermes trying to win. Are we like like, like, $1 is not just like cash giveaway. Like what it seems like. I don't know. I feel like that needs to be a hundred million and need to go to like 25 guys instead of 40 to eight if for it to make a true difference. Are we, when is the PIP announced? It's not gonna be announced.

No, that's the thing. It's totally secret. I thought they announced it, but they didn't announce the way that they do it out. A golf week, we'll have, Aiman's gonna have the scoop when it does go get doled out, but no, they're not announcing when it's actually good. And it's like injuries. It's like all the good, yeah.

I know. So that's where it just like doubled down on what you just said, Sally, like the product is very different to us as it is to the players, right? And what was, what is and was initially extremely intriguing about the PGL. And I'm still intrigued, and I'm very curious to hear more on that,

and I believe we will in the very near future, was like just totally starting, not starting, yeah, starting from scratch. Like we're taking this, we're ripping this thing down to the studs, and we're remodeling, we're doing our whole kitchen, we're doing herringbone backsplashes,

you know, we're doing quartz countertops, we're putting the hood in, like we're doing all deep as the D. I want to see the electrical grid is fuck. We're going to just we're going to build all new power lines. Everything we're going underground with everything fiber only like straight from the permits. You're gonna get some some freaking permits.

I think that's what they're struggling with right now. They're stacking the boards. See all kick it. Yeah. It's stuck in the door. See all of them. Yeah. It's a bureaucratic nightmare. But the tour just patching on a bunch of stuff, it's fixing potholes. Even if it's been to those places that have potholes

that you fix the pothole and then you have to fix the fix of the pothole, that's what they're doing. And there's nothing addressing the core of this. Which, to their defense, they're truly just holding on with both, with claws on both hands to these guys. Yeah, because the money's really good for the PGA. Like the current system works for the current, the people running it right now.

It's almost like, let's not stop the music until it sounds like to me till I retire. You know, it's like, let's just get it, let's let, yo, I got five years, I just got to get this over the finish line and then I'm chilling. Yeah. And then it's like, yeah, I'm gonna come on the pod

and tell you everything that was wrong with this place. Yeah, it's just short term. It's just, put down fire short term and just put it off long-term decisions. So it's good to have some competition. I mean, at least we're, you know, I hope they're challenged on some of this stuff. I just, yeah, I just think it's going to end up

with more meaningless golf played. And because that's the thing is like nobody cares as a fan, like you don't care the amount of money these guys are winning, right? Like, I feel pretty confident saying like, nobody cares about that. That's not why anybody watches sports, no matter what the sport, right? Like the best test players make a ton of money. F1 drivers make a ton, like, there's a ton of money out there, but that, it feels like golf. Like, that's what they fall back on

with like, oh my god, the FedEx cup, who's gonna win 15 million, like, dude, no one do me cares about that. You got to figure out a way to give us some captivating storylines, and I think that's just where they really get about Martin trainer. Well, earlier in this part, right? Like, that's a storyline, like, but like, I've never, I never heard him speak, right?

Like, they're not, they're not trying to, I mean, why would they, right? He's not a star, but I'm just saying, there's no vehicle to explore that stuff because there's so many guys and there's so many like guys that blend together that they're just, and there's so many tournaments that it's just, everything gets lost in the shuffle.

Well, also like thinking about this, we've dedicated our lives to covering this sport and you know, follow golf religiously, checking every leaderboard every week, whatever. What are you moot? What were you more tuned in to or what are you more tuned into? Hamilton versus for Stappin right now and Formula One or Cantlay versus Rom in the FedEx Cup final.

Like how much of a indictment of the presentation of it is that, right? I mean, exactly. No, that's exactly right, because they can't paint that picture why I should care, right? I have a hard time maybe putting it in words, but the end of the day, you got to tell me why I should care whether Patrick Cantler or John Rom wins this thing. Beyond just like how big of a check they get to cash. I think part of that problem is that the story is too complicated, right? Like in the F1 example, it's very clear. It's like, you know, there's 10 teams, there's two drivers each, and these are the two top teams. Like all the other stuff with the F1 is very complicated. How much

money each car is worth, and like, there's a lot of stuff in there that I don't get but it's like okay We've got these two drivers. It's these two teams. This is it. I don't the 20 and I know all 20 Yeah, I know all the 20 but I know that these are the two top guys Whereas with like the FedEx for example, you don't even know how the points are calculated, right? So it's like I don't know that majors are worth more. I don't know like season long Oh, we got the superseason. I need a real big win. How big is that win? Like what you know, there's just there's like it's over. It's over complicated. So, you know, the store is not any good. And and that's that's the dirty little secret. And I think that's what has gotten me on board with something like the PGL is maybe, maybe Stroke Play golf isn't it, right?

Like, like maybe tournament after tournament of Stroke Play golf just, it's not, it's not providing those things for us. Uh, that's why everybody gravitate sources of majors because we can easily, we understand the broader historical context of winning a major, uh, and week to week, a 72 whole, 72 whole stroke play event, it just, it just doesn't matter that much anymore. That's what when you do it every week, it, you know, are you doing it any week? How about that? Put that on the seat. If you, if you create teams,

and you play a bunch of match play and all of a sudden you got rivalries. It's like, man, does that seem more interesting or just keep going along playing 72 whole stroke play events? It's more crazy, man. Well, let's work on this. Let's work on question and as it relates to this, who we got from at at, at Couch underscore T, he would like us to have a deep discussion on fans and their place in golf. Do we have too much access to players through allies like social media? Why should players on tour give a hoot about the fans? Why shouldn't they? I'm a serious golf fan constantly thinking about where I find a place as a fan. I think a lot of us

are feeling this cutch underscore T. And that's I find I find myself off mic asking a lot of us are feeling this cut underscore T. And that's I find, you know, I find myself off mic asking a lot of players like, what do you play for? Like what am I, what am I rooting for here? And I thought JT gave great answer on Mike about that about it and playing for trophies and wants to have historical significance in the game of some kind more than just chasing the biggest cash grab. You know, I think Rory's probably along the same lines of that. I don't know where Brooks is on that. I don't know where the same lines of that. I don't know where Brooks is on that.

I don't know where Bryson is on that. I don't know where a lot of the guys are on that. But it's kind of a lot of what we talked about in terms of like, I don't know. I don't feel like I have a seat at the table as a fan on this whole thing that's going on. Well, I think what's missing in golf compared to other sports is what you just said before. So there's no team aspect to it, right? So if like the simple answer is yes, if the players care about money, like the larger, you know, the better their brand is,

the more they should care about what the fans think of them for a long time because of Tiger, they didn't have to because you could be, I don't know, you know, JJ Henry or like, I'm going to throw some strays out here, right? Like, or this will be a fun game. Yeah, and like you can win a golf tournament and you could you can just make money and be in the background and have a great living. But now with the pip and like if there's gonna be a breakaway tour, it's like, man, you better have a name for yourself. If you're gonna get so like they're basically trying to pick off the top 20 top 40 guys and they need guys that can bring fans with them, right? So

if these guys are you know thinking like long term, I would say they should definitely care about what fans think, but there's no there's no red bull team around them. There's no Houston rockets around them that's going to like help like amplify their message. There's no Houston rockets around him that's gonna like help like amplify their message None of these guys really have I'd like to bargaining. I would say none of them have a somebody running their social accounts Like you see in other sports or like teams that are like putting highlights out of them playing awesome Which then gets them more fans, you know what I mean because there there's no... They do have that, it's just run quite... I would say that...

No, no, I would say the top guys do, but you know, it's run by the tour. So now you have a tour that doesn't... That's basically trying to represent everybody, so they're not going to represent anybody better, right? So there's a lot of... There's a lot of unique things to golf that... And specifically that it not being a team game, that I think... You know, not being a team game and they I think, you know, not being a team game

and there being a ton of them, whereas like other individual sports boxing, there's very few dudes that matter, tennis, there's very few guys and girls that matter, right? And so then they can build up a team around that, you know, brand, I guess. And so the top, the top flight people make the money. But I gotta think that that's going to be come more and more important.

You're seeing the PGA tour as they're reacting to all this stuff saying like, we're going to reward the people that move the needle. Okay, so you better be moving the needle the next three to five years or you might get left behind. It's an interesting question. It's an interesting topic. You know, what it and certainly something that's been debated in a lot of places for a long time is what, you know, what are athletes, oh fans, I would say like, I don't demand anything, I guess, from athletes. Like I don't feel like they necessarily always anything, but at the same token, if you're not going to give us anything, you know, don't expect my adoration or don't expect me to care about you.

You know, it's a little bit of a two-way street. I think social media in theory is great, right? It's an avenue for players to directly communicate with the fans. I think there's a ton of downside risk and not much upside though, for the majority of people. I think as we kind of see through the years, it athletes just take on kind of a bland corporate voice and it just gets neutered.

So I'll say, you know, the only, I only feel comfortable answering this very personally. And I guess I, I am drawn to and I appreciate athletes that will share the truth about themselves. And whether that be through interviews or whatever the vehicle to do that, I think my enjoyment of sport comes with understanding a little bit about who the athlete is, what they've been through, perhaps why something matters. I find that fulfilling and enriching. And yeah, I guess I end of the day, I guess I just appreciate

the athletes who do that. Uh, Joey Vato. So, Joey Vato got me back into baseball with the, the podcast with Jim day, like that. Joey, that's my example there. Joey Vato is like my favorite athlete of all time for that reason. Uh, honestly, and I, I know I say this a lot, but like Phil Mikkelsen is that way for me. Love him or hate him. I think he's interesting. I think he gives you something. So it's really interesting. But I don't think athletes, one place I went with this was the whole

like what are they talking to reporters? You know, that's sort of a hot topic right now. Like pardon me, it is kind of part of their job. I think to speak to their performance, right, in a pun conclusion of the events, but I don't really think they owe us a ton. I think the smart ones kind of understand, and maybe for egotistical purposes,

but the people I get, it kind of give you, they give you some of their selves, which is great. You brought up something that I missed there, Randy, which is there is a lot of downside in the social media, right? There's, you know, people could get, they get got there's, there's a, you know, the canceling is not right. So I'm sure that's weighing heavily on some of these guys, but I would bring up in golf, similar to Vato, I think, would be Cantley, a guy that on paper, on TV looks as boring as they come as monotonous and just like, no thank you. But then whenever, and so he's able to kind of fly

under the radar and I'm sure in his mind, he's like, cool, I'm just gonna like win tournaments and make a ton of money and I don't really care. Then at the Ryder Cup, it's like they ask him a question and it's like holy shit, man. That is a super interesting answer. He was thoughtful in the podcast. He was great.

And you just, you think about a tour, like a PGL, where there's only 40 guys and he can't fly under the radar. And it's like, yeah, if you ask him directly, he's like the perfect witness. Like, well, you didn't ask me. Like, I got a lot to say, but just nobody, nobody asked me the question. It's like if he, like, you know, had, they didn't have as many guys to talk to, it'd be like, cool.

Now you're gonna hear a lot more from a guy like this, and you're gonna, like, learn to appreciate him. You're gonna have a reason to root for him. On, let's keep going with some questions here, because we've got some good ones here. From AtNealurNose, this might be your burner account meal, but what should a golf channel actually look like? Rainy, I'm gonna throw it to you first.

Oh gosh, this is a hard question. Let me, let me say I've been watching a ton of tennis channel lately and the reason I do that is it's great just background while I work at my desk. I just have it on and don't necessarily need the sound done. But what I what they really do a good job of is they just show a boatload of tennis and it sounds so simple. But to me golf channel should show a boatload of golf, right? I think there should be secondary options on a day like today, where you have the PGA tour, you have a big champions event, you have an LPGA tour, whether it be through like a good online streaming service, easy to attain, easy to find. That should be the heartbeat of golf channel.

And as I'm saying this, I realize that they do show a ton of live golf. So I think what loses me with golf channel is I find the original programming to be a bit vanilla. It's not of interest. Yeah, it's not of interest to me. Um, but I don't know. Let me, I feel like I'm rambling. I don't know if necessarily know if I have a great answer. But let me throw this to you. Like, how much original programming should golf channel have? Like what, what, what, what do you guys? What's the model for golf

channel for you? If you ask me, golf is perhaps the greatest game in terms of the ways you can cover it away from the professional side, right? Tennis is, like tennis courts or tennis courts, right? There's not amazing tennis destinations all over the world. There's not amazing. And it's also a lot easier to film,

which is like they just set up a couple of hard cameras and they want to start. You know what those are, Chris? Yeah, I do. Yeah. Which that's what it comes back to with golf a little bit is like it is the hardest, like I know that's cliche, but it is the hardest sport to show.

And television is different than like YouTube, right? It is, but there's so much interesting ways to waste time, not waste time, it's very valuable, please continue to watch our videos, but there's an interesting way to experience golf online that the television is not giving you, right? Like there's so much original programming that is just done by, you know, people that,

like I'm not taking full credit from this, there's many, many, many, many video outlets for golf on there. But like, why do I have to go online to see people covering resorts or golf courses or random places that are under the radar? I feel like golf channel, I guess sold out as a fair way to say it a long time ago. And they only would go do a travel series if somebody was paying them money to do it. And that model is what has basically made them lose their original programming momentum.

There's something to, not everything we do on our YouTube channel is for profit of any kind. It's like to create interesting content. And it felt like that channel stopped trying to create interesting content a long time ago. Faredy lasted a long time. I always found that to be interesting content a long time ago. Fairety lasted a long time. I always found that to be interesting content. That's original.

That's their own interviews. It is way more expensive to produce than it probably needs to be. I think they have this belief that things have to be of this amazing quality. They have to have this many engineers. It has to be all this. I'm sure there's union and related things that they have to follow and whatnot, but big break was good television. Like I watched that when it was on, like flip it on.

It's, you created a weird drama out of nothing. You filmed it in like 10 days and you got like 10 weeks of material out of it. That was good content, stuff like that, followed by the next show might be insert favorite YouTuber actually has his own travel series in that spot. Next hour long slot is someone else doing it. I feel like that is what a golf channel should look like because this sport has so many

more things to offer other than just talking about pro golf all day every day. Yeah. I first shout out to Neal or nose. Great, great question. I was thinking about it today while I was trying to watch three tournaments. If I perfect world, golf channel to me is it's red zone for NFL, but it's across tours.

So it's written into the contract that they have a host and they're cutting back and forth between the LPGA and the champions tour and the PGA tour and just kind of hitting you with like, okay, where's the most exciting action going on right now. And then maybe they're doing a picture and picture because there's two big putts dropping or maybe like the model is out there, right, with NFL network and NFL red zone. And then on the side of the original programming, I think NFL network does a really good job with like, they hook me with a football life sometimes. And top films, top 50 players of all time. And they just show like some historic highlights.

Like I can't really think of a lot of like, top 10 chips in majors or top 10 drives or top 10 freaking golf holes in the world. Like, those are to me, you have all the, you kind of, I kind of assume they have the replay rights for content. Like how can they not go back and be like, you know, top 10 comebacks of all time. Yes. The Tiger Woods journey to 82 victories, whatever that was,

maybe it was the PGA Tour entertainment that made that, I don't know exactly how that worked, whenever that's on, and that is must watch. I will tune in to watch that all the time. So I don't need the whole tournament. It's like you have so many tournaments to pull from. How is that? And it always feels like when they do these specials,

like, you know, they do it on the Friday after Thanksgiving, like, oh, we're doing a jack biopic or a Tiger one. It's just a one off. It's like, why don't you make that repeatable? If you're the people. They repeat it very, very many times. No, just that specific one though.

It's like, I don't need the whole, I need the top 10, like that's the repeatable format that every other sports network is employing at 2am, right? Or, you know, you're playing a little golf tournament, that's fine too. But the combination of, I'm gonna be there for the red zone, the picture and picture, like, you're gonna tell me what's going on in golf two day,

and then you could probably get me to come back if it was like, oh, I'll stick around for like, top 10 moments in master's history. So I just don't think it's, I don't know how contracts work, but I don't think it's, I don't know how contracts work, but I don't think it's that complicated, right? And how can the PGA Tour not dictate to the networks? Like, yo, we wanna make golf channel,

the fallback option when we don't have anywhere else to put something. Like, we're gonna have this red zone model where they're gonna be able to go here and go there as needed because that's important to golf fans. Well said, two more of these. At Parker Corrin, your Mike Wands new distances are,

but you only get to implement a change to one piece of equipment, what equipment and what about it changes? The golf ball. What changes? Everything honestly since I watched that Phil video, of him talking about making the golf ball. I mean, it changes. Everything, honestly, since I watched that fill video, I've been talking about making the golf ball spin. Yeah, I don't know if it's like putting liquid in the ball,

whatever he's talking about. I have never been the same. It's like, yeah, I don't care how far the ball goes as long as it goes offline. And if you turn the driver into, back into one of the hardest clubs in the bag to hit, then I am like, I'm happy, right? And if somebody can master the art of hitting it long and straight with a ball that spins,

then I'm signing me up for that. Yeah, I hate to say same, but that's exactly what I would do. Go back to the ball, what was like the tour ballata right before the first Provi won, right? That spun a lot, you could shape it. I think that would get you so far instead of having to institute a ton of restrictions on equipment and the clubs.

Like Neil said, it would just introduce a greater challenge. And honestly, it would reward, you know, we would see guys. I think it would show a you know, we would see guys, I think I think it would show a much more broader set of skills from guys being able to really shape the ball, curve it and work it. And takes pin off on wedges and all these shows just aren't that required much. Just for the sake of a different answer, I'll say, let's cut the driver head size. 360cc is plenty. I like that one too. I mean, there's just the reason why Bryson's able to whale on the ball as hard as he wants,

JT, all these dudes that swing it and just whip it hard with little fear is the mishits are too good. And the reason why 1997 Masters was so intriguing was Tiger was hitting this sweet spots that were the size of a dime and like an eighth of an inch off from that was giving you an entirely different result Which is not what happens currently with the with current equipment so Yeah Last one of these will get to at federated soft. He says major predictions for 2022 hadn't thought about this until he sent this in

Like that question. I added that one in there. We know who's gonna win the Masters of course Do you guys want to take any other picks for the last rory? Rory, my master's pick. I like it. Yeah, I think I just I feel I feel good about it. I want to root for it. I'm going on record. I think we're always going to win the masters. He's going to do it. Taste it, Randy. Big. Yeah, I speak. I think speedway went seven majors next year. Of course, he's going to win the best. He's going to win the masters twice next year. for Southern Hills for me. And then you're saying Phil's not gonna defend. I've got ROM for Southern Hills for US Open.

No, sorry, PGA, PGA. I have San Burns at the PGA. At the PGA. I feel like San Burns is a PGA winner right now. It just feels like a place where you get super hot. I don't know, it seems like bar fours are a big deal out there driving the ball. He feels like a dude that's gonna win

in Oklahoma, sign me up for San Berns. I would check the trafficking sports book if I were you for odds on that, because they're probably pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty good play. I'm going rom for that and then Keppka at US Open and Louis used Taze and at the old course again. Oh, okay.

Randy, who you got at the PGA. Um, I don't know. Come on. Give us something. I mean, I mean, I'm trying to even think who would be like a fun winner. Um, you can't say lefty. Southern hills. Yeah. I might be a speed slam next year. I think you might win all four. Okay, I wish people could see the little look that Randy gives off into the distance when he comes up with something, especially quirky to say, who would you pick for the US Open? I picked up, uh, uh, uh, Capca, Capca. I've got, I've got ROM.

Oh, no, okay, no, sorry. You know what I'm forgetting about is more. Kyle is going to win somewhere. Love him. So let's put Neil, I'll put him as the winner at Southern Hills. Okay. And then US open at the country club. Uh, gosh.

Sally, what's the course bit like? I don't know. I don't know yet. Okay. Oh gosh, sorry. What's the course bit like? I don't know. I don't know yet. Okay. I'm on already. Yeah. We'll take, you guys think Victor's gonna win one next year? Interesting. I'm probably not a US open for him,

but I don't have him in my picks. You know what would be fun is like you can literally pick any four dudes. Like you got to pick four. It can be in any order though. We each pick four for the majors and like whoever wins the most out of that group, that could be a fun little bit. We could pull. We could do next year.

Okay. I said that out loud now. We should go for that. Yeah. Who's I mean, yeah, honestly like Ram. I think Ram pick Ram for the US open. And then I've got speed for old course the old course. I think that fits because it just seems like a speedy kind of win at a historic place and I like his magic around the old

course. God I'll take Bryson at the old course. I just did. Oh, that's the only other way I was going to go with that. Yeah. People believe in golfers. God, the Scottish will lose their mind. That's kind of fun. Really? Yeah, I know. He'll be 30 under. It just totally desecrated the place.

I do, I want to apologize again. I played in a hick return event like two weeks ago, and I got dominated by some fire ants dominated and my my legs are like I can't get the bites to go away. I mean it's a series like if truly dangerous animals I think we were not fair to him on the fire and stuff so I just want to get that out there. Other tour related players we didn't we didn't do the fifth major. Oh no no no no I got robbed of win the fifth major. Okay. I think more cows going to win one of those very simple. That's a good picture. Yeah. That seems like it should work. Randy, who do you got for the players? Give me, uh, to co-crack you won't. I think our beautiful boy Max

might win a big one next year. Put me down for Max at the players. Okay. News that I thought we broke several, like a month ago, that just came out this week officially, of course, from Aiman Lynch at Golf Week. Rory McRoy splits with Pete Callan, returns to long time. What do you know about that time? What do you know about that?

What do you know about that? I mean, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we together and yet, you know, my very good sources related to this were saying that they haven't worked together since the router cup and it's going to be just Rory and Michael Bannon now. This was maybe a little bit more of a COVID situation than it was even a swing coaching change situation because Michael Bannon was not able to be out there as much on tour and whatnot. Anyways, he said, Rory said, yes, Michael and I are back working together. I've always had a relationship with Pete and I'll ask for his input if I feel needed, but now it's Michael and me. So, well, Cowan's got a little bit of an out here because as an investor going forward,

he can always say that he's working with players that he's not working with. Yes. And so, if they're paying him winnings on an ongoing basis, then he can say, yeah, say, yeah, you know, I'm a I'm definitely work. I'm an advisor. Well, for those that aren't familiar, Calon has a thing with his players and that you are he's paid by maybe I believe 4% of top 10s of the only way these players pay him and but you got to either do that like basically if you want to break up with him and not be coached by him, you got to chip them off in some way and undisclosed way.

I don't know what it is or else you could never come back. And so I don't know if Roy has to chip him off as a regard of I don't know what he was paying him as a percentage of winnings or any of that. I truly don't understand their relationship. There's so much weird coaching stuff that I feel like has happened in the past weird coaching stuff that I feel like has happened in the past couple years with Bush Harmon and Spieth and Cameron McCormick when that was way over overstated what was going on there. So I don't know. It seems weird, but it seems like Rory is back to just being the trying to get back to being the dude that he was with Michael Bannon. And that's why he's going to win the Masters.

Yeah. Yeah. God, if he wins the Masters, he might, he might not lose a major again. I would take him for the next 20. Oh, right. It's one. He's going to start rolling downhill 11 majors for Rory. What's the guy right now? Five.

He's got four. Four. He said four since 2014. Oh, man. I don't know. He's no nelly. That's for sure. Any thoughts?

Think, go ahead. Do you guys think Phil has another team? So ever come on. Come on. He's got to have one more run. I'm only doing that so I can have one more dismissive. Come on. We need to hope, Randy, that that Phil just keeps beating up on the old and we can keep cash and tickets on baby. Maybe it's a big win in the desert for lefty.

Randy and I are on him this week plus 350. Plus three money winner tickets. I mean, they were handing that money out, baby. Let's go. It's wild. He didn't feel like Kirk Triplet and realized they're playing the same sport of it. Any thoughts on the European tour changing their name to the DP world tour?

All the DP jokes have been made this past year, so we don't need to some really extra-rated ones too that I was not expecting. All I'd say is similar to what Randy said about the PGA tour feels like a very reactive move to say like, oh, the side is taking over the Asian tour. Well, no, we're the world tour. Like we called it first, or shortly thereafter. And it's just everybody's reacting right now. All tours are reacting to each other. It's a total standoff. It has been a World Tour for a long time. It's never, it has not been the European tour for quite some time. It didn't make sense to be called that. So I get it. Just an interesting step in naming tours after,

you know, with a sponsor. At some point does the BGA tour become the FedEx cup tour or the FedEx tour? I didn't actually name anything about the sponsor. I was focused more on the world part. You think about the DP. I didn't really think about what the DP meant. I didn't want to go x-rated.

I don't think that would bother me. You know, we already have it with the Cornfairy tour. It's what I did. I could not get bothered about that. That doesn would bother me. You know, we already have it with the Corn Ferry tour. It's what I did. Yeah, I could not get bothered about that. That doesn't bother me at all. If somehow it means less commercials, which of course we know it doesn't. So that's all I've got.

Anything else you guys are burning on? Just a few updates around the house here. I think first off, Torrosaus, it's Kingsley Week. So got a great episode of Taurus sauce coming up Wednesday live from here 9 p.m. Eastern. Come join us in the YouTube. It's fun. Yeah. Excited about that one. Aimed after Sir Ben Kingsley. Not many people realize that. That's right. That's exactly right, Randy. And we get into that history on the episode.

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same teas, and she was still went out and won it. That's pretty much what the nest is. We're trying to get people to meet up and play golf. So we're doing events all over the country. There's an event series. Actually, a good time to sign up for the nest because you get the annual member gift, which ships out to all 2021 members in January of 2022. I am really excited about the member gift this year. It's got some

some some thought went into it. Let me put it that way. What's the website again for those listening? NoLangUp.com forward slash join for the nest. The pro shop is store.noLangUp.com 15% off orders over 150 all nest members over the next two week get 20% off all orders. To keep that in mind. Think about joining a nest. And yeah, I just think it's, you know, we don't really pimp the store too often. I think we've got holiday boxes. We've got Holderness and Born stuff. We've got Robeck hoodies.

We've got Tows, T's, hats. I mean, Randy, what don't we have in there, man? Honestly. It's unbelievable. And you know what? I've been putting a lot of work into it with Ben and Tron the last like two, three weeks, Ben and Tron were ready to go for the holidays. So if you're looking for a gift for a golfer, think about a small shop. We appreciate the support. And yeah, let's go launch them.

Cheers. Thank you, boys. Have a great week. And we will see you guys back here again launch them. Cheers, thank you boys. Have a great week and we will see you guys back here again next week. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Get a right club. Be the right club today.

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