No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 50: Kyle Porter Recaps the PGA Championship

Episode Date: August 2, 2016

Kyle Porter from CBS joins to celebrate us making it halfway to 100 episodes of the No Laying Up podcast. We talk Jimmy Walker’s win, Baltusrol, Jason Day, Rory, the major season, and of course,... The post NLU Podcast, Episode 50: Kyle Porter Recaps the PGA Championship appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. That is better than most. Better than most! Ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the No-Lang Up Podcast episode number 50. We have made it this far. Here with us the master of the recap. It's his niche in the market. He is from CBS.

His name is Kyle Porter. Kyle, usually I check in and say, have you recovered from this crazy major weekend? But didn't it kind of feel a little bit like the green Briar this weekend? Yeah, it was a it was a glorified. I don't even know if it was a glorified bridge. It was just like the bridge down Immatational with a cut like that was the only difference. By the way, 50 that's impressive impressive. I'm glad to have been on the 50th edition of this podcast. That's pretty cool. I think you were like on number three or four. You were one of the first guests. I think

Bacon was maybe the first guest. I think you were number four of way back in 2014. So, yeah, it's kind of coming full circle here. It's good. Yeah, it has. Are you, I mean, like, we talked a lot this weekend offline, obviously. I feel a little bit guilty when these things happen. When I'm, I feel like I kind of a spoiled sports writer and I'm not even a real sports writer,

but, like, you know, people like, I dislike in general, people are like, in the press room rooting for stories and like, visibly upset when the story they don't get the story they want but I kind of felt that way. I feel kind of guilty for not being more excited about you know on American Jimmy Walker winning his first major. Should I be more excited? Well I think I think the tournament it was a little bit saved at the end because so my whole thing with with majors is you know did did the term I have an identity if you look at

You look at the first three majors of the year. They all had an identity right like the masters was was speed melting down The US open was obviously the penalty and DJ, you know coming back from that Clearly the open was was stinson and Phil that final round and and this one and then fill that final round. And this one barely has an identity, but I think it was the last two holes, and the way that Jason Day finished, and the way the walker kind of held on at the end. And so I think the unfortunate part is that it took us

four days and like 71 holes to get to the identity of the tournament, which makes for a pretty bland experience. But I think it was the whole deal, and really the end of the major season was sort of say by that two iron that Jason Day hit on a 18th whole on Sunday. Yeah, I mean that was the signature moment I felt. And I think part of the reason I also feel guilty, take this, you might not be the best person to ask this because I know you're extremely aligned with me on this one. Take everything Jason Day did this past weekend. Replace it with Rory. How much more excited about this past weekend are you?

Well, then you would have liked the question, have you recovered? Like I would have had something to recover from. Because I would have been, I mean, it was very similar to the shot that Rory had at the Irish open earlier this year I know I think we're gonna have five wood and day hit a two iron, but you know same sort of deal needed and Rory Didn't need the eagle but but he got the eagle at the last day. He goes the last on 18 and you're right like You know going back to what you said about, like, not rooting and whatever, like, I just think that's such a, I don't know. I don't know if that'll continue to be a thing

in the future for sports players. Like, I root for Rory McElroy. Does that make me a bad sports rider? I don't really think so, you know, like, I just, I pull for him. I openly pull for him. And if that, you know, makes, ropes people the wrong way, so be it.

But yeah, I would have been, we would have been losing our minds if that was Rory on Sunday. Yeah, and I feel like, honestly, it's all, it's, I would attribute the lack of excitement towards what Jason Day is doing in the general. Maybe it's just a Twitter-oddy community, the golf Twitter-oddy community.

Can you read it? Yeah. In general, people are just sick and tired of the excuse coming up before every major of just some random excuse does it bother you like when the when he sites of a runny nose or flu like simpson is something before every event

yeah it's just so unnecessary like everybody's hurt out here man you know like every like bricks kept his own like one leg and like people other people have kids and they get sick and it's just, it's part of the deal and I just don't, I don't understand the incessent, like, just bringing it up and, and like I get it if, if you're, for example, two years ago and day, I had the wrist thing, like that's like a real injury in your out for three months, but like, you've got a cold, like, okay, well, so do I, like I'm

getting, you know, I'm getting up at two in the morning with two kids and trying to ride about the British open. Like, I don't, it's just, nobody cares. And I think it just gets old after a while. That's why I feel like that two iron should have been a bigger moment. I mean, I was, when he started yelling at it, like, I think I moved to the edge of the couch a little bit. Like, I got pretty excited. And then it stuck. And then he made the putt and I feel like he's

trying really hard to be like the tiger guy. I don't know how I feel about him staring back down the fairway because it doesn't seem that intimidating to me. I use another one player in the world, but I'm not fully buying that move Well, and I didn't say this in our group chat yesterday because I was working and doing other stuff And I didn't I kind of felt bad about thinking it, but it just it felt very It felt very fake tough guy issue to me and I don't I don't I don't know what it is about day Like I've met him. I've talked to him I've taught him. He's truly a really nice guy. And I think people kind of universally think that.

There's just something odd about, even the way he carries himself. Like when he walks from hold a hold, just the way he walks is like strange. I know that's a, I sound like a crazy person saying that. But like just just the entire persona of the way he carries himself the way he um the you know the staring down of up to him. It's just the whole thing is um it's sort of disingenuous I guess is the best word I can

come up with to describe it. Yeah I like fake tough guy but also this I hate like what I'm doing currently and that like when we have a nice thing like ripping on it You know, right? Like speed with the tie kind of turn against speed a little bit after the masters and people were kind of playing about whining And I'm just like guys we have a great thing right in front of us and we're complaining about it step by step and here I turn around and do the same exact thing with day so I kind of don't feel I don't feel right for it But at the same time you can't really control your reaction to things. I should be, I feel like I used to like more, I don't even, even as of the fall, but I don't really know

what it is. I think Tron's rubbing off on me too. There needs to be a, like Malcolm Gladwell's next book needs to be interviewing all of us and trying to figure out why we're like neutral on Jason Day or just like don't really care. It's gonna sell tens of copies. It doesn't make any sense that like we've got somebody who if you look at I think Jamie Kennedy of the European Tour of Tweeted the Sac he's got 13 top 10s in his first 25 majors that's better than Tiger. He's a legitimately great player and And he hits it a long way and he's fun and he's clutch and he makes eagles and it's just I just feel nothing

Like I just feel not me The tin man give no heart I just I don't know. I'm completely Apathetic towards his just his his play and what he does. And that's the thing, he's not like horribly boring. Like he's not like, make a transition here. He's not Jimmy Walker. Like if it was Walker running away,

and the one I'm going to be really boring, but day is not, I think we're kind of just spoiled, though, we just think this number one player has to be the swashbuckling hero, like Phil, it comes strolling down the fairway. But I think on top of staring down the fairway, did you think it was kind of weird that he was in the scoring tent for the first putt and then ran out to the green to

watch the very last putt? Yeah, the whole on the green deal at the end was, I don't know, like it was just kind of, and here's the thing, I started to buddy about this, and he was like, why did I think it was cool that Fowler and Spieth were there, but not day. And I was like, I don't know, but I felt the same thing. Like, yeah, I don't know. It was just, I don't know. I guess I just go back to the fact that everything rings a little bit disingenuous with him, and

I don't even think that's the case. I think he's a pretty genuine guy. It just it just comes off that way No, I agree when I've listening to I've not been to many press conferences But hurt been a couple of his and he just it doesn't sound like That he's just spewing out of his mouth when he talks it sounds honest. It sounds genuine but you the same way that we praise Rory for it. And I think in general, you know, people, like international people, like the criticized the Americans that are randomly don't get as excited about international players. But I don't think that fits the mold here because you and I both think Rory moves the needle for us a lot. Maybe Rory is the exception to the rule. But even.

Yeah, but I would argue that even like, Henry Extensen and Sergio, like, I genuinely like and appreciate those guys for different reasons. And I don't think it's certainly not an anti-American or an anti-thrust of the world bias or anything like that. I honestly don't totally know what it is.

Yeah, and I mean, consistent with the questions we got from the listeners on Twitter going into this podcast, there's not a lot like, like, no one's questioning why we kind of dislike day a little bit. Like, you know, they're all asking the same thing about the illnesses and whatnot. By the way, people are excited about the Ryder Cup. Every, almost every question we got is the Ryder Cup. We'll get there eventually. I know you only have about 45 minutes So go on fast through a few things, but what did you think about ball to throw all overall?

It was fine. It was sort of Not that unique it just I don't know somebody said it on Twitter But it just felt like every backdrop on every hole is sort of the same. Yeah I do like ending with two part fives. I think that's unique and pretty cool and a fun way to end a tournament because you're sort of, you're building, and I wrote this before, and I thought

it would come down to the final hole. I got lucky in that it is, because day made the eagle, but when you've got two part fives like that at the end, you're sort of building the anticipation and anything can kind of happen on 17 and 18. So I did like that aspect of it, but the course itself was just fine. I mean, it was average in terms of major courses.

That's sort of how I feel about most PGA championship courses, I guess. And it's weird because the PGA is the one tournament where all the PGA tour events are at the same locations every year. And then the major is the US Open Masters and Open Championship. Obviously the Masters is at Augusta, but the US and Open Championship have sort of the same rota. And so you kind of see those courses a lot. the pga is just kind of all over the place I think the the course that's hosted the most is only hosted like three pga So you just you don't really get a feel for and get used to a lot of the pga championship courses Yeah, I'm with you and that I like to end it with two par fives. I don't think 17's a good hole though I just don't like I mean shocking no laying up guys says the three shot hole is not a good hole but I just I dislike I just dislike

having just having the only two parfives be those last two holes I it gives you the parfives I mean they're kind of I don't know if disingenuous is the right word I just that's on the tip of my tongue, because we've used that like eight times already. But it's kind of cheap in that, if you feel like it adds more excitement because it should be an easy hole, it's a true like difference maker hole. You know, these par four and a half is what I'm getting at.

Like, you can gain a shot, or you gain a half shot, or lose a half shot to the field really. I feel like you kind of need those sprinkling throughout the round. Like, oh, what's his name? Grace is making a run here, and he's got a party, he's on the par 5-11 now. If he birdies this, he gets 11.

There just wasn't those holes leading up to it where the green light birdie holes. And even there weren't even that many hard holes. Like it was just kind of nondescript par 4 after par 4. I know the third hole was really tough, but I mean, I never felt like Jimmy Walker was gonna make a bogey coming in. I mean, it just did not feel like that challenging to him. And to your point, there weren't any par 3 and a half, see there.

And we saw that multiple times at the US Open and Open Championship. And you just create, I like it when players are given a myriad of decisions because it just creates drama and it creates honestly more fodder for us to second-guess guys. It makes it really intriguing when guys have three or four or five decisions or options or choices that they can make on different holds. So I like the, I like the par four and a half, and I like the par three and a half also.

Yeah, no, and that's what they were, they were severely lacking this week. Was this the quietest wire to wire major win in history? I mean, it's got to, I mean, and this is something that I know Justin Ray of Galschannel who should be paid by pretty, I think everyone, like all media outlets should have to owe him like a royalty. But he noted that it was the, I think he was the first, or it was only the second PJ Championship, Wired Wire win in 15 years. And the other one was Phil at Baltic Thrall.

So you, yeah, it was, like I actually had to look up who was leading after Round 1 yesterday. I forgot that you mean why I am this leading the tournament. I discounted it though. I was like, oh, that's your round 1 leader that maybe I'll make the cut. I mean, we haven't heard from him. He's made a living in his career off the winter season, the fall series, and he's never won an event past March. He won the Valera Texas Open in late March, I think last year. His all his other wins came in either early February or January, and he won one fall series event.

He kind of capitalized on the weaker field events, not to discredit any wins on the PGA tour. He just kind of would disappear. He'd rack up a bunch of Ryder Cup points, a bunch of President Cup points the last two years and disappear throughout the rest of the season and then disappoint us, come Ryder Cup, President's Cup. Now it's kind of flipped on us, he didn't win in the winter this year and he wins at the end of the year, getting himself on the Ryder Cup team. I mean, this is kind of where I have problems with the point system in that like would we be if there were no point system If there was no it was all captain's picks would we be saying Jimmy Walker for Ryder Cup right now?

I don't know if we would But we know if we would I think Davis loves to wood I think this love is big on like How well you're playing in the moment and what have you done for me lately. If you were back at his press conferences in the last couple of weeks, he's talking about his hot going into the right or cup. I don't know, I guess it just depends on how much a captain would weigh one win because I get what you're saying. Like he's missed or coming into the PGA. He had missed three of

the last four cuts at major championships. That's not good. And then all of a sudden he wins one. I don't know. I mean, I think the love still probably will it, but I certainly wouldn't. I mean, he just, he did it to your Rory point of humor. He just doesn't move the needle for me. Like he just doesn't, he's a fine player. He's a good player, but he just, he just doesn't move the needle for me. He's a fine player, he's a good player, but he doesn't do a whole lot for me. Yeah, and it's, again, it's hard to just sit here and just credit a guy after he won a major championship against a great field and played fantastic golf. But I wanted to do a Vider Cup kind of last, but just wanted to make, like, I've always kind of not liked the point system, but now today I'm like, honestly, what does the point system do for you at all?

Like, I guess it gives guys motivation to play well throughout the year and not like lay back on knowing that if there's 12 spots, like if I'm filled, I know I'm gonna get picked, but think about like the principal behind it. It's like a guy that, you know, is basically forces way onto the team that the captain wouldn't normally want on the team. You're forced to take a guy, that's the principal behind it. You have to take a guy if he finishes in the top eight and it's like, well, if a guy finishes in the top eight, shouldn't he be one of the top players that you would want on the team anyways?

So it's the Matt Kutcher rule. Is what you're doing. Yeah. I don't know. If you don't have the point system, then what happens is it sort of becomes like this buddy's draft thing and which you're just having a captain that's picking all his dudes and what's the point of even, what's the point of JB Holmes even trying to get on the team? Like I just, you know, and there has to be some sort of structure to it. Um, otherwise I just don't, I just think it becomes kind of meaningless. You and I, you and I draft a team. Brandon Hage gets the second overall pick.

Yeah, did you see Brandon Hage, did you, speaking of, did you see, uh, Brandon Hage finished T3, uh, in the web.com tour event last week was he 46 shots back of the winner Yeah, I think he was legitimately like 12 back the winner Whose name is escaping me, but he shot the 58 on Thursday. He shot 250 for the week. Yeah, he shot 58 63 64 65 or something like that. Yeah, 250 If it broke the the all-time Aggregates war record Tommy armor the third shot 250 for at the 2003 Texas open if there's ever a web.com

performance that can The bypass the rider cup and DJ chip chip conversation. It was that one. It was that one And I love it all I had to mention was Brandon H. You were ready to jump on some Brandon Hagen news. Oh, let's see. Yeah. Future star. He's gonna be the future cup cup. And yeah, in 2018, it's gonna be, I'm gonna be writing articles wondering why Brandon Hagen's not on the writer cup tea. Just be ready for it. All right. Let's talk a little BK. First, well, first I just wanted to note, not even really questions, sorry, but I don't really, I didn't give any proper props

to PJ America and the grounds crew of Baltic Ralfour getting that in this weekend, because I don't know if it's just, again, the golf Twitter people I was following that were overreacting to the forecast, or if they got really lucky yesterday that had missed them, but I was planning on Tuesday finish. I'm looking to my meeting schedule with work, like,, I'm going to be streaming the golf on my phone underneath

the conference table. Luckily, it didn't end up with that and they got it in miraculous a yesterday. I don't know how they did that. Yeah, it was, it was unbelievable props to them. Yeah. That was nice as I'll be on podcast. All right. Now, BK, we Kevin Van Volkberg wrote a great piece and it's not like he talked to Brooks's caddy Did you understand how severe the ankle was that he was could the considering like as of Tuesday He was 70% out for the PJ chip was gonna withdraw was near tears and Did you did you have any idea was that bad going into it? Have you seen Brooks kept his caddies calves ever Have you seen Brooks Capkas Caddy's calves?

Have you ever noticed one? Are they bacon calves? They're bacon like. Yeah. They're unbelievable. But no, I didn't know that. And to keep somebody like him out of a major, which he didn't play the Elpin two weeks ago,

I presume that it was a big deal. But I guess I thought that it was sort of deal, but I guess I thought that it was sort of like a, I don't know, like the sort of injury that would be like a sprained ankle where, you know, after three weeks, you're pretty much better, but, you know, like, you just, you had to sit out a couple weeks here at the open. So I had no idea, and this goes back to the day thing, like, like, Cap is playing on one foot, literally, like, he's just can't even feel his foot, and, and Dave's complaining because he has, you know, like, he sneezed a couple times or something, and it's just like, you know, you don't hear about it from Capka until after, like,

it's, I don't know, I thought it was pretty cool, and I loved what Van Balkenberg said about, like, this is, this is the type of dude that, that to add a writer cup. He might be a jerk. Like, the way he was talking, and people should read it, but the way he was talking to an official at the open last year at San Andreas, it didn't make him seem like a great guy. But that's what she needs, staring down Rory McRoy and Martin Kymre and Hendrick Stinson on Saturday and Sunday at a writer cup. I loved it. I'm all in on Ke Rory McRoy and Martin Kymre and Hendrick Stinson on Saturday and Sunday at a Ryder Cup. I loved it.

I'm all in on Kepka at the Ryder Cup. Oh, this is going to shock you. I'm also all in on this. Fully endorsing this. No, I think I talked about with Bacon. He gave me permission to release him from my binding pick back in December when I picked off one major's. Because I just thought, if you missed the open, that was like 10 days prior. permission to release him from from my binding pick back in December when I picked off what majors. Uh, because I just thought if you missed the open, that was two weeks, that was like 10

days prior, you know, our two weeks prior. I just didn't think he'd be that ready for it. I thought, you know, at least he doesn't have to deal with the international flight. Maybe he's just going to give it a shot at the PGA. Um, did you think, have you thought about how close you were at picking all four major winners back in December? Uh, yeah, I thought a lot about it. No So speed second of the masters DJ one

Rory T5 at the open and kept it T4 at the PGA That's pretty good. Rory was not close There's the only thing though to winning the British, but yeah, I'll take it all top five All top five. It's like Ricky Fowler's 2014 major season. So back to the guy. I got one win in there No, I it's kind of shocking that I only got one win out of that. Like, Speed should have won that. I should have been two for two. I should have been going for the Speed slam there.

And yeah, the very thing was a disappointment. But yeah, Kevka, I could not have expected that performance out of them. But if people are talking, people are acting like, he's on the team. Like, it's a clinch's, it's clinched now. And I'm not seeing it. The math is still not adding up for me.

There's still a decent amount of golf left before, I know there's no double counting events, but these events are still counting for, you know, one point for every $1,000 you earn. And he's fifth now or fourth or fifth now. And it's not, not a, not a cinch if you ask me Vaughnberg made the great point that love should tell him you're on the team don't worry about it don't worry about getting the points and the money rest up that ankle and we'll we'll peek at the writer cup but he's playing the

travelers this week I'm so confused by that yeah I don't I don't know if I get the traveler seeing either but I think the one thing that he has going for him is that, well, among many things, but Davis love is mentioned to him by name. You mentioned him last week at the PJ and said, you know, Brooks has been out. I know I know he missed the open. I take that into account when I look at this stuff. So I think that you're right about the points.

He's certainly not in completely on that, but I think when you count right about the points. He's certainly not in completely on that. But I think when you count the fact that he's fifth in points and that love has sort of wink, wink, wink, dot him, I think it's, I would be very surprised at Brooks Cup yet we're not in Hazel team come the end of September. Well, there's not going to be a writer cup if that happens. Because if I'm there and he's not on the team, I'm just going to burn to the ground. It's going to be a Ryder Cup if that happens. Because if I'm there and he's not on the team, I'm just going to burn it to the ground.

It's going to be burned with the go. Can we, do you want to talk about the Ryder Cup right now? We can, that's fine. Yeah, I was going to do some major wrap up, but we can do that at the very end. Major season wrap up, we kind of already did that. Yeah, we can definitely talk about Ryder Cup. I've been dying too. Finally, if the season of Ryder Cup, we can talk about it.

So I've been writing about it since last November. I've been completely out of control So you and I've been writing about it since like last November. I've been completely out of control and I know you've been talking about it as well. I don't know that I like I keep forgetting that the Olympics are happening next week because of the Ryder Cup. I'm that excited about the Ryder Cup. I've been sleeping it draped in an American flag for the past. I don't mean like golf in the Olympics. I mean the Olympics in general, I keep forgetting about that. Yeah. So I actually wrote something back in October as soon as the

President's Cup was over. And I not only did the foolish thing of trying to predict who is going to be on the US team, I also said in it, this is going to be like the easiest US team to predict ever. Listen to some of the names I had. So the top eight at the time were Speed DJ, ZJ, Fowler Phil, Capca, Bubba, J.B. So among that Bubba and Ricky are not in the top eight, which is quite surprising. And I said, Patrick Reed is going to be on it. I'll take that one. that one's so good.

Justin Thomas, Billy Horseshoe, Kevin Naught, and Tony Fienaught. And I later changed that to, I'll also add in Kevin Naught. Or I'm not sorry, not Kevin Naught, Kevin Kisner. So, not only did I, was I cocky and saying that I could predict the team, I maybe got six guys right on that team.

Well, the Fienaina thing, I love that. He just didn't play well enough this year. Thomas is cool. I don't understand how Justin Thomas is like 28th and writer in writer cup points. And I know the fall series thing is like, which by the way, how in the world do you count? Okay, so here's my thing with the way writer cup points are counted. And I know you've talked about this on podcasts in the past, but like, if you count? Okay, so here's my thing with the way Ryder Cup points are counted. And I know you've talked about this on podcasts in the past, but like, if you're going to have a season, be the 2015-16 season, but you're only going to count points in the 2016 calendar

year, that's aesonite, isn't it? Well, and then, but the thing is, the 2015 Masters counts as much as this week's Travelers does. And that's where the fault in the system is, I get wanting to discount, first of all, the fall series money is less, right? But basically, they wanted to give, they wanted to make the top guys not feel like

they have to play the fall series so they don't end up too far back in The rider cup race. Let's be honest. They don't care about the FedEx cup. Let's just be honest That's not enough incentive so I Think at minimum you take the the money earned from those fall events and put a multiplier of like 75% on it 60% Something that's got a count for something Thomas had a T3 and a win in the fall series to start the season and it gives him nothing. That being said, I'm not gonna advocate

for Thomas to be on the team at this point. And I don't think, I mean, if he had, if he had all of those points, let's see who he made about, like it's about 1600 points, he'd only still be sitting around 14th on the money on the points list right now. But then he'd be in a conversation. He's one of only 14 guys and I don't know how many were Americans, I think like eight Americans

that made the cut at all four majors, played great at the player's championship. I don't know, it just it feels like he should be higher than I think he's behind Steve Stricker on the right.hand cup points list. He is. Stricker is 26 Thomas. That's absurd. That's absurd. Like that's just, I don't know. There has to be a better way to figure that out.

Yeah. I mean, obviously I'm a huge Thomas Homer. I'm kind of, I'm focusing my Homer energy on Capca right now because I'm still just like nervous. I mean, I could not have imagined he'd have been left off the president's cup team last year. I think I may have mentioned that at some point last year. So I'm more focused on the guy fifth on the list, making sure he makes a team than 28.

I mean, Thomas, I've made the case in that if he had a hot finish to the season, a guy that makes a ton of birdies, you can send him out there in four ball, gets along really well with a lot of guys on the team, that if you wanna bring Furek onto the team to play four sums and play, like JT play the 4 ball, gets along really well with a lot of guys on the team. If you want to bring Furek onto the team to play for sums and play JT play the 4 ball, I think that makes a lot of sense. If he has a hot finish to the season, not quite a horshull level finish, but I think he

could do some damage in the FedEx cup. Holding it in the caveat out for that could still be a possibility, but at this point, I think even he would tell you he's not done enough to to be on the team. How worried are we as of today, August 1, Baba, Patrick Reed and Ricky Fowler all need captain's picks to get on this team? Am I, I haven't thought it fully through. A, because all this stuff fluctuates so much that's gonna be completely changed by next week. B, I think that kind of helps.

That prevents love from making a true, like, home or pick. I mean, those guys, I'd rather go to war with those guys than anyone any further down the list. Like, coach, or who did you say, Bubba read and Fowler yeah I'd rather than go and coacher piercing haas William McGutt Kevin Chappell Duffner yeah I don't see I don't see anyone else in there

that I'd rather have over those guys so I almost think it works out better here's the problem is that if you so I think some one thing that people don't see anyone else in there that I'd rather have over those guys. So I almost think it works out better. Here's the problem is that if you... So I think one thing that people don't know is that that loves the last pick comes after the tour championship. After the tour championship. And the problem is if you have those three guys, this captain's picks and then you have like a situation in which well, it feels like he needs to pick

a veteran guy, and again, we don't agree with this, but a veteran guy like Furek or Kutcher or Snedeker, then it sort of forces your hand to not pick maybe like a Justin Thomas who say it makes a run in the FedEx Cup and ends up like 15th. And so, I don't know, I just feel like you want freedom to, or I guess you do, but I feel like you want freedom to make the choices that you want to make. I don't know. It's going to be interesting. It will. There'll be a lot of discussion on it. By the way, people think that Ricky Fowler is really not going to be on the team. He's on the freaking task force.

He can misaccount that the next four tournaments will be on the freaking task force. He's a Ricky Fowler, like he can misaccate at the next four tournaments he'll be on the team. What a disappointing season from him though, especially the way it started. I mean, he won in Abu Dhabi, was it? And then should have won in Phoenix and it looked like it was going to be a takeover. And I'm just saying, this is why we don't do big four stuff. This is why we don't do a big five. This is why we don't do big four stuff this is why we don't do big five this is why we don't do any of that crap alright like the big one the big oh god

i i i i don't know i don't know what should say the journalist name we should give him uh... the benefit of the doubt but somebody wrote today or yesterday that uh... what jason day is done is the best the best showing is the best player best showing since Tiger. I was like hmm. Can I can I can I get on my soapbox or sorry. You want this one go for it. So I wrote today I wrote about 1500 words in like 12 minutes about how ludicrous this era is in terms of the way that we perceive major championships. And my argument is an argument kind of on piggybacking on what you

guys have talked about a lot on here, which is the tiger attack. So in the mid-90s, tiger came along. The money and golf started increasing a ton. And when you increase the amount people are paid in any industry, that increases the competitiveness in that industry. Well, for golf, what happens because it's because it takes a lifetime to become good at it, you don't realize the consequences of that for 15 or 20 years. So we're just now entering the era in which players whose parents raised them to be golfers growing up because it was a lucrative business because you know, if you look at what Jimmy Walker won on Sunday he won $1.8 million even even taking in inflation that's seven times as much as what Dave stocked in one and I think it was 1971 PGA championship is the

example that I use that's a big deal and because of that the competitive pool in golf has gotten so much deeper and so much better and so for somebody like Rory McRoy to win five majors, that's freaking ridiculous. That's historically great. And people act like, oh, he should have like 10. And it's like, well, okay, well, first of all, he's 27. And second of all, he's got four. That's, he's probably the greatest European golfer of all time. And people just write it off and start handing out majors to other people.

We need to chill out about presuming that guys are going to win majors and look at what guys have already done. And we also need to give credence to and wait to top 5's at majors and top 10's at majors, which Jason Day is done. But let's chill out on this guys, the one or the, you know, whatever. And start looking at guys who have two or three or four majors and say, that's a really, really, really good career. Yeah. I mean, Jason, days of the best player in the world, I have zero problem saying that. That's factually accurate. And you can't argue against that at this point. But to say that what he's done or his run or what the display he's put on is the best runs in Tiger is just so incredibly

short-sighted that I just it like Rory won four majors in four years like yeah who has Phil ever done that I don't think he has Tiger obviously has but who was the last guy to do that before Tiger and Rory. How many does VJ have three? Yeah, so he might have won him close together. He won the 021 Masters, no. 2000 Masters, he won. He won the 04PGA, I'm doing the soft memory. And 90 something PGA, I don't remember exactly. He was like 98 or something.

But he hasn't done it, that's the point. Maybe Faldon. That's the point maybe maybe Faldo That could be a good one. Did he yeah, he may have one that's he won't because he went back to back masters Yeah, but your point remains like only There's a legitimate only like 10 guys and the history of the off that have won four majors in four years and we just sort of like Write it off. It's like oh, yeah, you know, whatever. And it's like, no, this is a big deal. And I don't know, I don't know. I just, the row, the writing off of Rory is, is, is pretty humorous to me.

Yeah. Fowl dealt one 87 open, 89 masters, 90 masters, 90 open. So he did win four in four years. So, um, yeah, I mean,, I mean, we talked a lot about Rory. This is not the best weekend to follow up on us stomping our feet on Rory, considering what we saw from him. Pretty embarrassing, Miss Cut, actually, what happened on 18 months on Friday. But I mean, people want to point, and I had Jake Nichols on last week talking stats, and I wanted to put B to D- I wanted to put to bed the driver show Putt for D-Narrative, and lead the field of driving, Putt's 151 out of 156, and Mrs. DeCut.

My mentions were pretty hilarious after that, but come on people, let's be a little more, like less less short-sighted than looking at two rounds of data Let's have some nuance. Yeah, the Rory thing is So the argument against Rory is that and I loved J. Nichol Statt where he showed that Rory's been performing ahead an elite level more than anybody else in the world and He used Stroke's gain like what is what is the normal amount of Stroke's gain over the rest of the field that wins a tournament or a place is top five or whatever? And I think he said 2.25 per round

in places top five normal in a tournament. And Rory's been performing at that level. The argument against him is that he hasn't really been in contention in a real tournament on a Sunday in a while. And so there's a difference between him. we joke about the, we joke about the backdoor top 10, but it's a real thing if you're trying to kind of decipher what Rory's here has been like. So that's the only argument against him. And people are like, what's wrong with Rory? What's wrong with Jordan? Nothing's wrong. Like they just, they just haven't one.

Like you fundamentally don't understand how you how to win you know how golf works if you If you're asking what's wrong with Jordan or what's wrong with Roy because they've been playing fine There's a couple things here. They're roaring. He's a tight-knuck is wedge game speeds Approach shots haven't been as good as they were last year, but we need to just again show out about some of the stuff that's going on Yeah, has for any of the top players in the game has has this season, and I know the seasons downed over, but major season being over, has your view changed on any of these top players? That's a good question. I think Dustin Johnson's ceiling has been raised for me. Okay, I'd take that, yeah. And maybe that was my fault for not realizing how high it was before, but he's actually a pretty good putter. I was looking at his putt in stats throughout his career. He's a little bit above average I think. And

so I think I think Nichol has mentioned this. Like if he puts well in a tournament, it's kind of lights out. Like just we'll see you. We'll see you at the next event. So yeah, I think his ceiling has been raised to maybe like, hey, he could win through four majors in his career. Oh, absolutely. That's why I thought he was going to win this one is that it just kind of made like breaking down that barrier. No, it's kind of a faulty logic to think that that was the only thing holding him back and that they were just going to start falling one by one after everything we just said

about how many good players there are. Right. It really did feel like a good setup for him and he vacated the premises rather early. What about speed? Do you think that's your impression of his future changed at all this year? No. No, no. I think speed is tiger like in the sense that he's in it for 20 years. Like I don't really think that about Rory. I think Rory ejects from like truly contending before he's in it for 20 years. I don't really think that about Rory. I think Rory ejects from truly contending before he's 40. I don't think Spieth does. He's going to have years where he wins, one or two majors. He's going to have a lot of years where he doesn't win any.

He just needs to tighten up his iron game. His his strokes gained with approach shots is down. Everything else is better than last year. He strokes him putting his better last year. Do people realize that he's putting better this year than he did last year? I don't think people do. And so just tightening up the iron game. Yeah. And that was what Jake said, the hardest thing to repeat from year-to-year, and he had kind of a career year, and up approaching the green last year. And it's probably the most important, most important stat. Quickly, I don't have the names of people, the questions.

I'll do Kyle has to get off here in about five minutes, but I'll do some questions on my own afterward. Just I'll buy my loansome. But what was your most significant moment of the year in all the majors? That's a good question. Most significant moment was probably, oh that's tough. For me, it was either DJ shot into 18 in Oakmont or Speed Shot,

second shot into 12 at Augusta. So you mean 13? What you mean the second ball he put in the water? Yeah. Oh, I thought you were going for like a good moment. Oh god, you're going for the haunting moment. Well, you said most significant. That's true.

That's true. That was the... What I wrote down was best moment of the year in majors, and I asked most significant, so you said... I have a hard time disagreeing with that. Yeah, the most... I would say the first ball that went in the water, for me was the one.

It was kind of like, it was slipping, slipping, and then he did that. And it was like, oh my God, this is really happening. Well, and I probably mentioned this. I'll never forget standing with Van Balkenberg, our buddy. And he just, the look on his face after speed at the second one in the water was just like, I wish I had a picture of it because it was, I've never seen anything like it before. How do you describe it? I wish I had a picture of it because it was so I've never seen anything like it before How do you describe it? I mean he just looked like he was

He just terrified like he just seemed like I Don't even know like I'm scared to say something politically incorrect right now But like he just looked just a gas that he was even witnessing what was going down And it was it was truly One of the crazier things I've ever witnessed. I mean it was like you know the next day We played we played golf with bacon and I did I did the exact same thing on this part for it But it was like you expect me to do that and and You just I don't know it was so crazy. Yeah, I think I I said after the Masters I said this would have no effect on him.

He would probably bounce back and win the US Open for all we knew and finished season great. That didn't exactly play out that way. I'm actually kind of surprised that more people aren't like pushing that narrative that the Masters ruined him. I don't think that's the case. Maybe people are smarter than that, but I expected him to bounce back better than he did. And I don't think he handled things great this year. A little bit of adversity. It might be a little bit of Rory's 2013 season after making to world number one.

I mean, Rory's 2013 was way worse. Speak one twice this year. But it just kind of the expectations rose a lot and he didn't handle it great. So that's some questionable things. So I wouldn't say my expectation for his future change, but it's like a this is closer to what we can expect than what we saw in 2015. Is that fair to say? Yeah, I think so. And Rory actually predicted this back in December and he got, I think he got a lot of crap for it, but he said, it's going to be hard for speed to win a major in 2016.

You know, he said, it's just so hard to repeat what you've done and with the expectations and everything. It's just, I don't know. I'm not concerned about speed. I think that he's still growing up a little bit and just figuring out how to manage being the most famous American golfer in the world, you in, out there right now. I mean, other than, then, then, fill in Tiger.

The most famous young American golfer, I guess I should say. You get, that's something that you have to figure out how to manage, how to handle, how to deal with everything. And he'll figure it out. He'll be fine. Yep. Super quick. So now you got to run. Are you going to watch the Olympics?

Are you, what's your, what's your Olympic excitement level right now? Well, we're actually live blogging the Olympics at CVS.com. Yeah, so I was talking to my editor last week and I said, man, we're almost done with our big events for the year. And he said, well, we're actually live blogging the Olympics. And I said, well, we might as well just live blog the travelers championship as well. If we're going to do the Olympics, I mean, this field is just, it's disgusting. Like, it's, it's, I'm, I don't know what I'm reading for, but I'm, no, I'm not excited

at all. Okay. Answer. When is it, if you can't, if you can't tell how excited I am, when is it? I think it's, uh, not next weekend, but the next, right? Yeah. Not this weekend, but the next, yeah. Two weeks from yesterday. Yeah, I'm gonna be an Iceland So I won't be watching so please life log it for me. Yeah

But I was gonna have this high top red white and blue shoes on I'm gonna give you the password to the Twitter account And anything controversial that you want to say just say it on there, okay? I know you got a rod Kyle, thank you for squeezing us in. Thanks for having us recap the masters. Another great major year, good major year, I'd say. We'll probably have to do this again around Ryder Cup. Yeah, if you're somehow able to make it to Ryder Cup, can we do like a live pod?

Oh yeah, let's do that. Let's do exactly that. How much longer that be? If I do go, I'm not gonna tell anyone, and I'm just gonna show up. I'll tell one person and I want somebody to play entrance music to whatever bar you guys are hanging out in and I want to enter that way. So you have Patrick Reed at the same plan for the ride again. Just coming in on a bald eagle, that's it.

Okay, Sally, I appreciate you having me on and we will definitely do it again Ryder Cup. Alright buddy take care man. Okay later. Alright guys sorry we had to cut that a bit short with Kyle he had a radio bitty had to get to 45 minutes is never enough with Kyle. I sent out a request on Twitter for some questions and you guys came through with a plethora of questions. There's no possible way I can get to all these, but rather than avoid them at all, I figured I will at least answer them. My no-knots not nearly as entertaining as two people talking about them, but if you want

to unsubscribe, well don't want to subscribe, but if you want to exit eject from the podcast, no judgment here. I'm going to get through these as fast as I can. At No class Friday, Dylan Friday from US Golf TV, big or surprise. Four first time major winners or zero majors for day-speath McElroy. I'm going to say zero majors for day-speath McElroy, considering the pedestal we put them on to be beginning of the season, calling them the big three, which, you know, again, it's a whole another thing I don't really want to get into as ridiculous

I'm I am surprised there's no repeat winners just because we haven't had a dominant player in majors of enrory winning four In the last you know since since tiger basically exited in 2008 I would not expect I would just expect that you know We've been pretty evenly distributed over the last eight years that a guy would be bound to repeat. And yeah, I would have thought it would have been Day, Speed or McElroy to at least add one to it. So it's kind of, the answer kind of goes hand in hand there.

Yeah, I'm surprised at both of those. I don't think we're going to get back to back years where we have all first time major winners, but I also thought DJ was going to win the PGA championship. Parker Houston at Houston No Prob won. Thoughts on all four Olympians having to rely on captain's picks to play the Ryder Cup. I don't really care. They were pretty far down on the list to coat to be on this Olympic team to begin with But it kind of goes back to what I was saying with Kyle in the point system being kind of silly and that this goes by world ranking

And we know we bumped was a DJ and spieth off. I don't think there was anyone else for missing But so these guys are the basically the third through sixth ranked Americans in the world They're what four through six ranked through sixth ranked Americans in the world. They're what, four through sixth ranked Americans, third through fifth in the world. And they are not qualified based on points. So they've earned enough world ranking points, which again, the points can kind of be a little bit sticky. They hold for a while. If you get into the top 10, you don't usually drop out of the top 10 very quickly.

But I just don't get how we can have the system where we rank these players and these are the top, you know, for the top 15 players in the world as the time of the day they were selected for the team. Yet they haven't earned enough points this year to make a Ryder Cup team. I don't know, the whole the whole qualification thing is still a bit flawed. I think it's better this year than it was the last time around. I do like the Horser rule they implemented, but the whole Olympic thing is, I'm not even going to be tuned in. It's lost so much momentum. I was excited at the beginning.

I think it'll still be cool to see those guys at the opening ceremonies and it'll be cool to see medals awarded. But Olympics has clearly just got a big fat crying Jordan all over it right now. Going to Ken Ryan at Ken Ryan underscore MKE, do you think Jimmy Walker uses internet explorer or net scape navigator as his browser? 100% chance he uses AOL for email. I'm going to say that he probably uses internet explorer, probably upgraded. Dot doubt Netscape Navigator has the ability to handle the bandwidth of all the Astrology or Astrophotography, whatever you call it. Photos that he's probably uploading on there to do tens of people that want to see those.

So I'm gonna go with Internet Explorer there. Along the same lines, let me find the second one, Harry Bosch at Bosch 3333. Does Jimmy Walker buy out the lease on his Toyota Camry now? Yes or no. I think he's probably just going to get into a new Camry, wouldn't he? I mean, I would think that the 2017 Camry has a lot of new features and he's going to trade in the 2014 for it Maybe get a sunroof on it. I don't know. I don't know how crazy. He's feeling I tried to make the joke apparently I didn't do a lot of research. Hopefully not maybe we'll solve this I tried to make a joke that I feel like Jimmy Walker

That he orders wine Like a newer bottles of wine thinking that's better Because he just seems like that uninter bottle of wine thinking that's better because he just seems like that uninteresting of a guy but apparently he's a big wine nut so I had to quickly delete that one and shout out to somebody who quickly reminded me of that. Alright at Horus underscore Bengdal a question in general has your view of tour golf change in any way since moving to Europe?, I wouldn't say it has. Well, I guess in one, I just, I thought it would be bigger in Europe. Nowhere, and again, I live in Amsterdam, it's not a big

golfing culture here. I think if I live in the UK, I live in Scotland, it would be a lot different. But you never see golf on TV at a bar or a restaurant or people talking about it at work or even the majors. I mean, you know, back home in the States, even my non-Golf fans are, you know, saying, wow, do you watch US Open? Did you watch the Masters? None of that here. I have to explain to people here what the Masters is, what the US Open is. They know about Yoslout and that's pretty much it. So, yeah, maybe I'm not just in the right location for a big, it was, this all experienced the purpose of it was not meant for golf, that's for sure.

So, it hasn't really changed a whole lot of my perception. I think I'm becoming more aware of the fact that I tend to overrate the American players and think that, and I've been way over confident this season that we're gonna dominate year up this year. I still think we're gonna win. I'm a lot less confident that it's gonna be a blowout than I thought it would be.

So, I think, and I don't think that's necessarily a reflection of living abroad, but just kind of slowly coming to terms that on a perennial basis, I tend to overrate the American players. L-Rubin 01 lives once to know, why are you so into Brooks Kebka? I just like the way that question was phrased. Not like, why are you a big fan? Why are you so into him? She said, I mean, I'm a big fan as well, but no one really knows why you root for him. It's a good question, Liz. I think it is a myriad of things.

I was really not a fan of the new structure of the tour system of players having to go through Q-school just to get on the web.com tour and no longer being, having the opportunity to go directly Q-school just to get on the web.com tour and no longer being having the opportunity to get go directly to the PGA tour and the fact that he was not getting sponsors exemptions like I would hope that he would have and it's very much rigged to for those guys that it's basically just the Jordan species who and potentially Bryson de Shambos that can play the seven sponsors exemptions that they're allowed

and get enough FedEx Cup points to earn their card. It's so challenging. I just thought the system was rigged against him. He went to Europe and dominated and basically made his way on the tour through world ranking points. And I thought this is an up and coming young American superstar. And I still think that. And it was just the deck was all stacked against him with, you know, he couldn't qualify. His point's not counting for a certain measure for the President's Cup because of his non-qualifying status and basically just became a poster boy for a guy that I think that networks and golf channel and people

should be focused on as a potential superstar in this game and he just gets brushed by the wayside and TV network even I always clamor for him to get shown on TV and I get messaged people like dude people don't care I'm like well there's a reason for that people don't know who he is yet like if you show him on broadcast and again there was a there was a time period when we were clamoring for Jordan speed to be shown on TV he almost won the 2014 northern trust open and didn't have a single shot shown on CBS until the 17th hole. And of course he went on to become a superstar and now we can't

get enough, we can't, we get too much of him on TV, but there was a time when he was in this exact scenario when we're like saying come on guys pay attention this guy is a potential superstar is kept going to be a multi-major winner I don't know about all that. I think he definitely can be. I don't think he's quite the speed level talent, but the guy's got just an absolute boatload of talent, so much potential. It seems to have a great work ethic for it. It has a right amount of attitude. He kind of rubbed some people the wrong way, but he's kind of just a badass, I think. So I'm obviously a huge fan of him. I think

we're still going to see a lot of good things to come from him. Pretty amazing performance this week on the bum ankle is a lot bigger deal than he was making out of as I discuss with Kyle. So surprisingly played glad that he played glad he had this showing. I think he's really going to introduce himself to people or come writer cup team. I talk about guys like really coming out of their shell Patrick Reed obviously in 2014 went a little, perhaps a little two nuts at the Ryder Cup. Uh, kept because like I had the opposite of that. He's the most mild mannered guy. You can imagine on the course, but you might see a little bit of emotion on him that could be a little bit surprising. Uh, because I think he really wants to be on that team and really wants to, uh, he prides himself on being an athlete rather than a golfer. So I think the,

I, the fact that he might be playing on a team rather than playing for himself and a part of an atmosphere, you know, where he can get amped up. I think we might see a different side of him. It's completely unfounded prediction there, but could see it. I'll put you this name on the podcast before I'm sorry again. I'm all y'all Nick, I'm going to say. Can anyone of the Reed Bubba Fowler group really be called a lock for a Ryder Cup's captain's pick? I say no, is what he said.

I think they're all locks. I don't think there's anything those guys can do between now and then to be as good from the team. Again, it's Reed Bubba Fowler. They get, I don't know, I had just have a hard time. There's not like, unless there's some multiple players that emerged to really knock down the door in the fashion, like multiple Billy Horseshell type finishes that we saw in 2014. Read was fantastic at the President's Cup and the Ryder Cup is the exact kind of both that this team needs, the energy that they need.

I think that energy thing kind of gets overblown, but for entertainment factor alone, he needs to be on that team. I think Reed is the safest of any of those. Baba is with his length and his ability to make birdies in four ball going to be on the team. Fowler's on as I talked about with Kyle. He's on the task force. I don't think there's any way he doesn't make the team. So I think those guys are very safe to be on. Again, a lot can happen though. There's still people acting like just because it's the last double points event

that this is where we're at with the team. I mean, the standings can still very much fluctuate on a week to week basis. And I'm happy to talk about it. I'm entertained to talk about it. I know it's a fun topic. And a lot of the questions I got about the Ryder Cup, but again, a lot can change between now and then. A few more here. Matt Gallegos, underscore eight, if you have

to pick now who are the captains picks, I think you take those three as that we just mentioned and I have to check it to see who's still sitting out there. The last pick I'm probably giving to... Man, I don't want to say Furek. I'm not going to. Man, that's really tough. I feel like no matter what name I say here, the overreaction to it's going to be out outrage. I'll just say Duffner, I think that's safe as pick, because I can't imagine too many people getting mad at that. If I say Kutra people are going to flip out, Tron is going to delete this podcast off the network if that's the case. William Stansoll, thoughts on moving the PGA to Royal Melbourne in Olympic years, a major in November would cut majorless gap. I'm all for a off-season-ish major or moving the PGA to Royal Melbourne in Olympic years. A major in November would cut majorless gap.

I'm all for a off-season-ish major or moving the PGA during Olympic years to different time period. I don't think Royal Melbourne's the answer as much as I love Royal Melbourne. In fact, if I was to rate top five courses on the planet, I would wanna play. I think Melbourne's on there.

I think it is fantastic from a visual perspective on television. 2011 Presidents Cup, I tune in just to watch Rob Melbourne. I love the way the the fairways just roll into the bunkers there. I think it's the most aesthetically pleasing thing you can do to design a golf course. Timezone difference. I don't think you want to make half of the majors from an American perspective. I don't want half of them to be in different time zones or middle of the night.

People that have regular jobs and schedules to maintain, it's impossible to watch. So, especially Australia, that really puts it in the middle of the night. So, I'm gonna say no to moving it far outside of American time zones. If you can find something in South America, Mexico, even Canada, I don't oppose it.

I think obviously it's got to be, if it's going to be in the off season, it's got to be pretty close to the, it's got to be South. If you're, if you're going to move it into November or play in February or whatnot. But I don't think it's realistic considering how far in advance they book up these PGA championship locations. I don't have a, I'm not sure if they've locked in 2020, but again, it's PGA of America that runs this event. I doubt they're going to be the ones that feel like they have been the desire or the necessity to grow the game and move it overseas.

So I don't think it's realistic. I think it'd be, I'm all for moving at WGC. You won't play at WGC at Royal Melbourne. Absolutely. I mean, I doubt I'm sure Bridgestone has pacifictized a firestone, but I'm sick of seeing that course year every year. Move it around the world like it was designed to be. I know guys are going to skip it, but it's called a World Golf Championship, so reason and they play like one of them over a season year.

It's kind of a joke, so no to that being a PGA, I'm all for that for a WGC Tim Allman how lucky were the PGA and finishing the event on time given the decision not to move T times around Saturday I did give the in props earlier for getting it all in on Sunday I do think that was also complete luck I know they did a ton of work for the golf course overnight I don't even know how that works. I don't even know how you have light to get people out there squeegeeing the fairways and digging up all the water out of the bunkers, but it was really impressive

they were able to do that. They absolutely messed up Saturday. I have one good authority that CBS had something to do with that. CBS did not want the broadcast to be shown in tape delay, end up with egg on their face and that they got absolutely no live golf to show during the entire broadcast. So, I hate to see that.

And I think it's really disappointing in that I know the networks have a say over that kind of thing, but I don't know who the final word comes down to, but you gotta make sure you get all the golf in on the weekend. And you can't get all the golf in on the weekend. They almost ended up coming back to bite them. If this was, the funny thing is, if this was, obviously this was moved up a few weeks. If it was later in the year, they may not have had enough daylight to do it. Even a couple of weeks later, it may have been really, really

tight to do that. So yeah, they got very lucky with that one. Last question from Will Bardwell. The web Simpson Memorial question, the player most likely to get a captain's pick that is most undeserving. I'm going to say Jim Furek. He's come back and played okay this year. He has a horrible ride or cup record. Obviously he's in the same peer group as Davis Love, Kevin Van Volkowbord, Van Volk and Berge has pointed out before how much those guys look after each other in previous router cups you see. I don't have the example in front of me. I think Jay Haas took some 50-year-old of the captain's pick or something back in 2006. I don't know exactly, but there is precedent

for guys taking guys they view as peers or guys they've seen play for 20 plus years and other good players when they may not be the most appropriate guys to bring into that kind of emotional event. So that's the most likely guy. So you're getting picked that probably doesn't deserve it. I can see it loves hand being a bit forced if no one really emerges that he kind of wants to fall back on a guy like Furek. If Furek is on the team, put him out for ForSums only and then the singles event. I can live with that. It's not an ideal world situation, but in no circumstantial, he go out in four ball. He's got like a record of like two, ten and one or something in his career in those in four ball. So don't do it.

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I think you guys will too. So just swing by the approach up, check it out. Thanks again guys. Follow Kyle. I'm in the minutes of earlier at Kyle at Kyle Porter CBS and hopefully I will be off. I will not be dropping a podcast next week. May have they won in two weeks from now. So thanks again guys. I'm going to give it a try. Be the right club today. That's better than most.

How about it? That is better than most. Better than most. Expect anything different? I'm gonna be the best I'm gonna be the best I'm gonna be the best I'm gonna be the best