No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 511: Tournament of Champions Recap

Episode Date: January 10, 2022

Cam Smith shoots 34 under (!!) and wins the Tournament of Champions in Maui as the field obliterates a soft and windless Plantation Course at Kapalua. We recap the birdie fest to kick off the calendar year. Plus, Bryson ditches the dumb hat, some exciting future locations announced for the US Women's Open, NFT country clubs and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying of Podcasts. First Sunday night in the kill house of 2022 PGA tour season is back. We are playing tonight without preferred lies here on the No Laying of Podcasts. I'll hear DJ Pie to my left.

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Guys, do we have a scoring problem on the PGA tour? Come on, come on. There's no, not because of this term, well actually maybe, but I'm not gonna say it this week. You're not gonna say it this week, but maybe. We're monitoring the situation. Okay. That's how I am. You know, it's, we're there some, you know, some shocking data being poured in this week. You certainly. Yes. But take all, I take all that shit away this week. I was

inflation's out of control. It is, but, you know, we're not worried about that this week. This week we're worried about good views, weird ass holes, elevation changes, all kinds of different things. And I do mean this somewhat sincerely. Save all that conversation for when we get to the 3M and the Rocket Mortgage. And all of those things were playing dead flat golf courses. It's driver wedge on every hole.

That's where I think there's this going. I'm with you. Here, you got to hit different shots. You got to get real run outs. There's all kinds of different things. I had a fucking blast watching this tournament this week. And that's not usually how I feel when 20 under is in 15th place.

I'll, but I will fast forward that to next week. Because you're going to see that at Sony, at YLA. I feel like there's a, I feel like I don't get crushed. I feel like there's a, I was free solo in that one Telled my dad. It's like the alpinus like what if he drops one of his pants? I just dropped my pick my point being I think that the low scores here don't bug me for a couple reasons one I love seeing these guys play a resort course. It is a resort course exactly what it is. It's what it is you're exactly right and it And it's kind of, I don't know, camouflage with all the views.

Yeah, I mean, so, but also the way it's set up so well for TV because they're hitting these unbelievable shots that look really hard over ravines and you see the way the ball spinning with the elevation. And so it's just a ton of fun to watch. Whereas next week, I always like the Sony, but it is a little so it's just a ton of fun to watch. Whereas next week, I was like the Sony, but it's like a stark reminder of like, oh man, like they're just, it's just too easy.

They're just hitting the ball too far, you know? So I think it's a week to week thing even, before they even get off the island. Really, always hard. Like listen, when someone sticks a mic in your face, maybe it doesn't come out the right way or something, but JT's comment about like everybody's complaining that we're hitting the ball too far.

It's not that, it's at the course is too short. It's like, huh? Yeah. Like, well, he hit a minute. That was not the full quote. But no, he said it was too soft, and the course is, when the course is, when the short wind, and yeah, it's not a lot of course.

The course is 7600 yards, but it plays nothing like that. Absolutely nothing like that. It's all wedges, like there's no wind. The wind's blowing. I mean, the wind is the only defense of this golf course. Yes. It's not that much of a bomb fest out there, like, because guys, a lot of the holes, I mean,

it's not always the longest drivers that have success here. Like if you're looking for PGA Tour golf courses that are tight and long, or where the longest drivers thrive the most. The wider, the more it comes, like the fact that you're not that long comes into play, uh, can bring you into play. Like looking at the 14th hole, the drivable par four, almost everyone, pretty much everyone in the field can drive that, right? It's not a driving distance emphasizeer. And you get these shots that just run and run and run and run forever that all you got to do is, you know You make sure you hit this slope. I came Smith is not a bomber and he gets to the bottom of the slope on 15 with the current wind direction and things like that So I'm with it's not that long of a golf course. It says 7600 yards guys hit like nine iron into 17 and that's five sixty and the par 73 is helping

That's helping on the relationship of our stuff. Yes, the scores, but also it's one of the shorter golf course on the PG I think my favorite part about watching is relatively sure. Yes It's a little bit more of a relationship. It's a relationship. It's a relationship. It's a relationship. It's a relationship. It's a relationship. It's a relationship. It's a relationship. It's a relationship. It's a relationship. It's a relationship.

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what would a pro shoot if they played your, not in uni, but resort course, right? It's like, oh, this is truly like, yeah. And this, what this Kapalua doesn't have also is the shots that are, if you are this long, you eliminate all the trouble shots, right? Which is what, the, the, the courses that kind of stink are the ones that you can, the longest 10% of guys can hit it over the last bunker and they have no risk

to any of the shots and none of the shots are like there out there. Like it. I feel like even watching somebody like Ron, number one player in the world, and as wide as those fairways are, I felt like there's a couple of times he's gripping it a little bit tight, just making sure he didn't lose a ball on like some, like because that's something I battle in golf when I whenever you're playing a super wide fairway You don't hone in on a a Specific line and like if it's tree line sometimes I can just stripe one down a 20 yard wide fairway

But you put me on a 80 yard wide fairway and I'm thinking about oh do do not screw this up and sometimes they do like that It's fun about capitol like they hit it in the shit when it's like how did you even do that? This is what fill coming in on 17. We were washing that together on Friday night. And it was funny. Phil's comments, which were very relatable having played capelua, was, you know, he gets done. He plays his round on a Thursday.

And he plays, you know, not very, you know, just kind of average, not very good. And they're like, you know, what's it been like? We'll just describe the feelings of being back here on Maui's, like, this golf course is so hard to walk. Like I am exhausted. Like that was, yeah, that was so hard, which it totally is. But you saw him those first couple of days, get to like 17, 18, and then he hit the T-Shine,

he hit on 18, too. I'm surprised. He just legs it, his lower body didn't move. Yeah, like he was, yeah, it's a horrible swing, totally gassed. So yeah, I, I love didn't move. Yeah, like he was, yeah. It's a horrible swing. Totally gasped. So, yeah, I love capital. I hate seeing it kind of come under fire like this, but again, there's not a,

is it coming under fire? On Twitter, people were just, I can't watch this. It's just a pretty fast. Oh yeah, a dirty fast. What a horrible take. There's not a golf course that these guys will play. That's soft and windless that they will not tear apart.

Like you take them to wing foot and if it's soft and winless, they will tear it apart. I don't know. It's like president's club for the PGA tour, right? You're like, you guys, you know, you're top sellers. Like, let's take you to Hawaii. Let's get you all set up at the Ritz. Yeah, they're not going to come to me. Yeah, that's not what it's for. It's limited field. 100%. And I, another thing I love about this tournament is you have a ton of historical context. Yep. Right. So like, not only the course, but tournament is you have a ton of historical context, right? So like not only the course, but you know what holes are coming to exactly what shots are coming and I mean we've mentioned just like Molakai is

criminally underrated. So your boy Larry. I mean, I don't know. Well, no, he owns Lanai. Oh, that's right. Right. Molakai's like classic park the leprechaunty Yes, all right. St. Damien like the big homie like that Molakai's the park, the Leopard con. That's the Leopard con. Yeah, sorry. St. Damien, like the big homie, like that, Malkaiz, the goat, like island out there. A lot of, a lot of big ass waterfalls, good stuff. So that's underrated. But you got me sidetracked here. The other one is it kind of cues that game of like, oh yeah, Matt Jones won Honda.

You know, like you go back and you're like, what, what, what, Horsel, I guess you wouldn't match play, you know, it's like, okay, so you start to relive the last season as you're kicking off the new year. It's a lot of fun. Yeah, it's kind of, yeah, it's kind of funny to play that snowball effect with how guys get in, because I'm sure there were maybe not a debate,

but I know there's always a debate on like, should the Zurich guys get into the masters or should they get, you know, the same perks as other winners. And there you go. KM gets into this field wins again. And then he'll come back again next year. Exactly. You win any tour event you get in Kaplu. I understand some not getting into the masters.

I think you win. And apparently the Olympics. Yes. Which I'm down. Which I'm down. What a quarter tweeted something that said he's he has one since 2018. He's won one since 2018 and he's played the last five. I'm worried about my boys, Andrew. I was we could talk about that later. So how's that work? once it's 2018. He's won once in 2018 and he's played the last five to have a little for a sick.

I'm worried about my boys, Andrew. We can talk about that later. So how's that work? Did he win in the fall? I can't say it out loud because it's not gonna make it. He said it took me literally like 20 minutes to grab that. It was like a super season situation.

No, no, no, no. So I think he won. So yeah, I think he won, I could be wrong on this. Green Breyer in like 2016 or 2017, something like that. Or one something in 2016 or 2017, which got him in. And then he won again in 2018. He won 2017.

So yeah, got him in 18. He won the tour champion. Oh, sorry, he won tour championship in 17 as well. So gets in 18. And then in the fall of 18, which is the next season, he wins WGC HSBC, which gets him into 19. And then he wins, his one win since then was the century tournament of champions, which got him into 20. And then last year he got in, because he got to the tour championship. This year he got in because of the Olympic. That's, that's, that's, he's a free loader.

Yeah, for sure. Scam in the system. Hey, man. Freeloader. Yeah, for sure. Scam in the system. Hey, man. The gold medal. Good. I'm. I'm kidding.

That's a he gets to come to President's Club. Sure. He won gold. You know, he's like a featured speaker. Exactly. He's talking about his time in Japan. Exactly. Speaking of he's a new business

principal. This will not be the last time that we mentioned some unpaid debts on this podcast. But last time we ran into Cam Smith and Atlantic Peeves. First thing he said was, I think you guys always have to spend the wheel at Taco Lou. That's true. That's true.

From Wild World Golf, if you do mention that. So Cam Smith, 34 fucking underbar wins with rounds of 65, 64, 64, 65. Shot 800 today, apparently. Watch the whole thing, felt about like 200. Yeah. Yeah. Just off the golf course. But, and going back to, you know, some of the, what you're saying about Twitter, and I can't watch this, it's a total birdie fest,

I could not disagree more. I felt like, I was wrapped watching this. Like the shots they were hitting, and the pots that they were making, it was like, I mean, listen, does it play short for those guys? Obviously, yes, but you're still going to make so many fucking birdies, man. You still got it. There's still a good amount of driver wedge, but I again feel like I look up and I'm seeing them hit these long iron shots that are the game changer out there. Even the wedges are like more interesting

because there's so much elevation change and because the balls below their feet or because they're trying to carry a certain ridge or because there's, you know, hazard behind, like the pins all the way in the back, there's hazard behind the green or it's just, it's every shot, even the stock shots are so much more interesting. The part threes are great too. Like the eight and eleven, especially those two shots, the ball stays in the air forever and like, try and get camera work. Yes, trying to get to some of those pins is super interesting. But let me ask you this.

What do you guys think about the fact that, basically you can hit a drive 301 yards and it goes 301 yards and you can hit a drive 304 yards and it goes 385 yards. That's fun to watch. There's not that many of those situations out there. 15 is one, but you got to like, if you want to get to the bottom right of the fairway

on 15, you got to like take on the hazard, the lost ball area down the right. I'm trying to think I think one has that. Everyone gets to the bottom the hill and one. Rob didn't get it yesterday. No. Rob had like two 30 and one of your shirt. No, you're right.

I saw that too. He was up on top. Yeah. And he hit an awesome shot, like four iron. Yeah. You know, to like four iron. Yeah, you know, to like 10 feet. I think there's I think there's four or five out there. But also the approach to it didn't have the day for camping. I think it's sweet. It's really fun. The approach to 18 that second shot in the 18 where cams ball did not release. But there's just

a I mean, the ball is on like you said it. I think Andy Johnson said it. Watching the ball on the ground is awesome. And this course is perfect like you said it. I think Andy Johnson said it. Watching the ball on the ground is awesome. And this course is perfect for it because it they do use the slopes around the greens really well. And I feel like it's one of those courses where more often than not the ball is funneling to the whole instead of like the turtle back, you know, inspection rejection. That's where like seeing the ball not roll out there. And I know they've had weather and it's an outdoor sport. And then you're just going to have that like this course you need needs to roll with it as soft as it was this week. And you don't

have any wind helping dry out the golf course as well. Either, I guess it was really had no choice but to play ball in hand for the first two days despite no weather on the golf course. You know, questionable decision there considering the scoring records that were broken. But it, uh, this place needs the ball. It's like one of the best places to watch the ball roll. And it just didn't this week. I mean, it would even the ones that are getting down the slope, you just feel like they're kind of going in slow motion, like get, get going. Is it going to go, go? And around the greens, especially watching those shots come into 18 and land on the fringe and just stop. It's like, it's just surprising a couple years after this renovation that it does that. And I don't know how bad the weather's been there down there,

but it feels like if you're going to rip up grass on the golf course and get it ready for this this tournament once a year, it feels like it's kind of should do that. But I don't know. Yeah, non-agronomous. I think that that was felt like the only thing missing to me. Cam Smith has won the Sony and he's won two Zerks. This is his second. He's never won a stroke single, a stroke play of that on his own in the United States in continental US. That's kind of interesting.

That's surprising. Second Hawaii win. Dude, man, I said locker room guys. A big team. Wired a wire. Yeah. I mean, imagine leading wire to wire in Hawaii win. Dude, man, I still locker room guys. A big team. A big team. A big team. A big team.

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A big team. A big team. A big team. A big team. A big team. A big team. or today, I mean, he's a total gamer. How about he started the third round with the lead, shot 64 and lost the lead. Yeah, I don't know how you keep that mentality for for four straight days. We would like to congratulate him as well with that birdie on the 18th hole to win by one. He tied big Randy's birdie count from 2021 at 34. Good plug for the goals podcast. That's right, we did a goals podcast on the trap draw feed. If you have not listened to that,

please do, Randy, it does have a goal. I won't spoil, that was fun. The goal is to get 35 birdies in the coming year. So, Cam did not get there this week. I was searching, nobody got the Capelua birdie challenge. Nobody completed it this week. Cam was close. He played the first two holes and three over for the week.

It's tough. And then shot 34 under. Oh my God. Can you imagine a more like a bigger juxtaposition to the regular golfer who would go out to the bogey fuck up, Don? Well, there goes today. Yeah, exactly.

He led the field in Stroke's game off the tee this week as well. We were talking about how far he was hitting it. And Strokes game putting this week. That's a good combination. Like he, I looked it up, he was, what do you think he was in distance last year? On the big one. 124th.

Well, not that bad. 75th. 85th. 85th, he was like, he's been this week or something. Spending more time in the gym and less on the boat. I don't know. It's a weird week for driving distance though. I mean, it, it, it, uh, I don't know how

to, how to really explain it because like some of the uphill holes, like you're hitting right into ups, loaps. And it's just, it, it's, it's that draw too. So he's probably taking advantage of the role. Like on 15, he caught, you know, he just, he was even carried pretty far. 30 yards because he caught the hill. He was to get like 177 ball speed. It was flashing for him, which is, I mean, that's, that's about where I'd expect him. Maybe a couple mile an hour faster than last year,

but like his club head speed, you know, in, in shot link was about 117. He hit in round one, the fastest. So hovering around 117. So basically JT speed kind of more a cow of speed. The driver was impressive. It's the putting with him. He's such a natural with the putter.

It just looks so smooth and I just envy his vibe on the greens. And it doesn't like in the first tournament without the greens books, like he doesn't strike me as like the mathematician out. No, it feels like a complete attitude putter. Yeah, just like, yeah, man, I just gotta just get the mathematician else. No, it feels like a complete attitude putter. Yeah, just like, yeah, man, I just gotta just get the ball in the hole

and it's like pace, pace, pace all day long. He strikes me as the mega, just like you both wanna drop a ball here and we'll put for a thousand dollars so he makes it, like I'm gonna beat you every time. But very much also the attitude of like, I'm totally fine either way, I'm like, I don't like, really like, actually.

So that's what after the, Oh, you asked the bat, yeah, I didn't really want to. So that's what after the you asked the back. Yeah. And really want to after the round like, you know, he's getting in every on the 18th green. He's like, oh man, that was intense. I was like, was it man? Cause that like you couldn't have made them look much easier. Like his never looked like his heart rate got above 120 all day long. It just he plays. I have no idea if this is actually how he approaches it. But he truly looks like he plays golf without fear of the consequence, and either way.

Like, if I win, great, if I don't, great, it's kind of Dustin Johnson like. Yeah, I feel like we saw that at, was it Memphis last year, where he had a chance coming down the trees? Yeah, coming down the trees. Fred, it was like, you know, no offense to our guy, K.A. but like, one of the weirdest decisions of the season,

which is like, fuck it, man, I guess I'll just go for it. You hit it out of bounds. It's an awful tree out of bounds. It's like a half a million dollars. Yeah, man. Yeah, I think today or this week, we might have saw the flip side of that. Yes.

Like the upside of that. Pretty much. So. Well, the other thing that I remember watching when we did the Wild World Golf with them, that I saw throughout this week is he's so good with his judgment of funky lies. And I think a place like this brings that out. Ball below your feet, ball on the rough.

Like sometimes he hits these like 80 to 120 wedges. And it's just such good tempo. He doesn't get, doesn't get quick. It's, there's just like a, it's same thing with the putter. There's like a knack for just feeling it. Instead of it being a math equation or like, oh, I gotta go to my hands to nine o'clock. And it's none of that.

It's like the opposite of Bryson, basically. It's the Augusta thing. The smart betters were on this. What's that? A lot of uneven lies, a lot of the same stuff. Speed of point. Speed talked about that a couple years ago at this tournament, which clicked for me. You know, it was good that he just like explicitly said that because I never would put that together in my head

But which is I it's cost me every year because I think I pick speed for this every year Yeah, just like your guest a luckily yeah, like we filled in with some other guys John rom the buoy as many people are calling him that I Think what people are calling them that then Rambo, but. He had a sinkable jawed. You can't sink up. He didn't go away. Bogey free on the weekend.

I'm sorry, he did Bogey the fourth hole on Saturday. That was so Bogey the tournament though. Shoot 33 under. And it was a great Bogey. Because he hit a hard path. And he lost ball. He lost ball. And that was kind of funky.

Because some, I think some spectator or Marshall found a ball. He's like, I found it. He raised his head. I guess it wasn't his ball, but they're like, no, we're going to go play the provisional. But the announcer's like, oh no, like you can't. You don't want to find that one. You don't want to find that one.

No way. Yeah, I don't know what more to say about Ramo than like this also gets tat, like he had so many events last year that he could have won should have won like he COVID in it up winning like it it it was criminal the only one one tournament last year and then he starts the year shooting 33 under and also loses by one Joe Joe Bill spelled it all out that he so six six shot lead at Mirfield Village doesn't win that tournament best 72 whole score I think in at East Lake doesn't win that tournament and then this whole score, I think, at East Lake. Doesn't win that tournament.

And then this week beat the lowest score in PJ Tour history by two shots. It doesn't win. And this one win is, of course, the U.S. Open. Yeah. And he finished, he finished third, the Northern Trust. He had the lead going into the final round. There he got run down by a freight train that nobody was getting. Nobody was going to be able to stop. More on that to come. Yeah, we just talked about that shot sweet beard. Finish T3 at the open championship as well. What other close calls is he had? He, yeah, I don't know. Rahm's gonna, yeah, I was kind of somewhat selling just because I think it's like a run of this go to golf can't last. It just doesn't, no one does it for like consecutive years

of them, you know, the one guy. And so I was kind of like, all right, we got to kind of sell, Ram coming to this year and I mean, I don't know why you would say that if you're watching that. So admittedly, I didn't see this before the week started, but we did our season picks, you know, last week.

And there was a prop at from draftings on there about, you know, Will, Moor Kawa take over number one in the world And I bet no not knowing that Rom need to finish solo second or first this week to keep number The barbarians in gate we got a baby Five fucking rocked them. I don't know. It's like with Rom though It people always cite the stat with Nicholas. He came in second in 19 majors. 19 majors, you know, it's like, wow. That's always blows me away.

Rob's got a little bit of that going on, which is he's just always going to be there. He's not, he's just so solid. And I'm guessing the wins are going to start popping up. Well, he honestly felt like, every time I looked up over the past three days, he was leaving like an 18 footer like directly in the jaws, like six inches short. He had such trouble getting, as he shoots 33 under, he had trouble getting putts to the hole, which is wild.

And he had a couple of super, yeah. He had similar reactions as Cam when those balls didn't go in. Just super chill, didn't he? Are you guys on that note a little bit? Has your viewing sentiment towards Ram changed at all? Honestly, I find myself like rooting a lot harder for him. I do too.

I don't know why. And I'm going to be completely honest, his pod with you, Sally. Yeah. And he had a massive impact on that. Just kind of hearing from behind the, you know, the curtain of, of fireiness. Like he seems really thoughtful and plugged in

and I just liked, I found myself very attracted to his vibe on the pod. Not so much on the golf course when he leaves those putts short. I mean, it's fun to watch, but you're like, oh my God, this guy's crazy. See, I'm in on that though. I need to see some passion. Knowing that he's going that off the though. I am I need to see some passion knowing that he's

it's a spanish passion off the court. Like everybody you always keep you also a punch short. He's not like, you know, oh, I'm not like that off the course. I actually got the sense that that was true with Ram when you know, when he's talking to you. So the last six months big time have have kind of changed course with my allegiances. He ate one thing I can guarantee that guy's gonna make a lot of cash, which brings me to a someone I wanna mention which I'm ecstatic to talk about.

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Oh, so I did the money dance when that once the trade's actually went through. Yes, that's cool. Yeah, I can't wait to see that. We need to have it so like we can see each other's help each other's portfolios are doing. That's probably a little privacy information that is a little issue.

We talked to the SEC about that. Couple of questions about what we get to. Charlie Cowatt is asking, will someone shoot 57 this season and also can we get Draft King's promo and this is a season long wager? That's a good promo. That's a good, good prop. I mean, it might be this week, if it were to happen, right? Yeah, I don't know.

It might be the year of the season, or it's going to happen. Yeah. I mean, par 70 at Y-Li with two super easy part fives. So basically like a part 68 there. So that means shooting 11 under on that. I mean, it's unlikely you need a super not windy day and I assume if it's soft at Capillew, it's gonna be soft at Y-Li this week.

Or in the desert at the MX, that's usually another absolute birdie bananza. It's gotta be a part 70, right? I don't know if it was. Is that a 72? There's a couple different ones. There's a 71 part 70, right? I don't know if it is. Is that a 72? There's a couple different ones. There's a 71 there and a 72. I don't know exactly.

I think the US is 71. I don't think we'll see a 57. I'll take that. I mean, why not? I'll say yes. Who knows? I say no. But I'm no fun.

John Derasio, what do we think of Splish? New action. I hate it. Not so much the swing. You guys can analyze the swing. John Darasio, what do we think of Spliss New Action? I hate it. I hate it. Not so much the swing. You guys can analyze the swing. I don't know. The pre-shot routine is stressing me out.

It's like, that's part of the journey, bud. I gotta know what to tell you. It's taking the whole Mike Wears, he backswing thing. It's not good. It's very, it's very yeoman. It's very beneath him to be doing that. And I don't like it. I don't see.

No, I'll go the opposite. Why do we like speed? Because he's the whole thing is reliable. He's reliable, you know? And he's too relatable. He's out there like, all right man, I know this is gonna look stupid, but I'm committed.

I'll do it. If you tell me to do it, I'll do it. I agree with you, but it's still making me feel things I don't like. I immediately when I saw it on Thursday, I was like, oh no. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, what is he doing? I don't have any intel on the actual golf swing though.

Do you see anything, Tali? I would be, I don't love what I see, but I also don't know what I'm looking at. It looks like he's taking it like the club is way laid off now. Like big time. And then a little bit of a like, he's almost coming out really steep on it. Yeah.

Not, the way it looks to me, please well actually me on, you know, somebody slow it down and biz hub, and knowle to me. But it looks like it's coming steep. Our guy, the iron savant, 33rd out of 38 strokes came to approach this week. That's not good. It's not good.

We don't like that. It's a weird week. Again, it's weird. I don't want to read too much into the stats, but his move looked different than it did last year and it looked different last year when it came out as well. I ended up working really well for him in the stretch. So maybe it's a personal thing for me

because when I hate my golf swing, it's when I come in and then I do that over the top move and I'm coming outside in at the ball. And you see it on like track man and you're just like, oh God, disgusting. I disgusting. Because everyone's like hit the ball inside out, you know, like that's well, the best players do it. You know, makes me freak out when I see that. Whenever you're trying to hit it inside out, I always end up more out to.

I see speed. I'm like, no, don't do that. No. More Kawa. Just just want to put this on people's radar. The putting has kind of come around in the last three, four months or so. Stats are kind of difficult to accumulate in this time period. Not everything is done on, you know, on shot tracker or shot link or the stroke skein stuff. He had four total tournaments in the prior season where he had positive stroke skein putting. I don't think people realize how bad it was and he's, he was crazy.

He was positive this week. He was positive at the CJ Cup as well. And he's of course hitting, he's driving the ball even a little bit better. And he's hitting his irons as good as ever. It very well could be like, this is, I don't know if you're going to hear this anywhere else. It could be a big year from workout coming up. I really, I really do think so. So thank you. But it is worth point. Like he has had the obviously he's had the huge, enormous peak weeks, like the concession, you know, the open champion chip, he of course won PGA at Harding Park.

Like he has the big spikes, but in between that, he's not been that reliable. He has weeks where it bottoms out, especially on the putting side. Like if he raises that floor, now we're kind of talking about that kind of ROM level of booey, if you will. He's, he's kind of everything that Matt McNeely talked to you about,

yeah, doing, which is like maximize your good weeks. Yeah, where it's like, okay, this is it, I'm just gonna go get it this week and then he just kind of chills. Brando had some good stuff about that this week. Yeah, right, about the, which I know, it's something we probably say a lot in roundabout way, but I thought he kind of cut right to the core of it, right?

Which is like, the PJ Tour is not about putting, like end of sentence, it's about being one of the best ballstregers who putt's well on a given week. Yes. And that sums up more cowards, sums up can't lay, it sums up Matsuyama, it sums up like a ton of these guys, right? It's, which is again, I think takes me back to Ram,

which is where, like, Ram is just like so solid at everything all the time that those other guys kind of come and go and he just seems to be there every freaking week. Which is, but then it's also interesting with Cam Smith, who I would say, I don't know, I don't know, is ball striking stat. Obviously led the tournament this week

and Stroke's gained off the tee, but normally, I don't know where to lose on the tire track. He seems like, because he kinda, he kinda has that chicken wing at the top sometimes. Like he doesn't, when I think ball striker, he's not the first guy that I think of. I think about putting with him. I wonder if it's like a little hitch he has in his swing

that makes you say that, because I'm the same way. I don't love watching him swing the club, yet like kinda the numbers kinda do check out, and he kinda really does stripe it. Especially watching like so I always do the the pro tracer. I do the drawings one are all of our videos and stuff. The first pro I ever got to do it with was Kim Smith and I was just mesmerized like watching his club go from like I don't know what the positions are called, but we're almost right

before you hit the ball into the ball and then right through in the follow through. I just watched them repeat, like trying to like take it in through osmosis. So like that is exactly how you're supposed to act action through the ball. You're right, his ball striking in 2021 was he was 53rd and Stroke's game approach. Pretty average.

I feel like he has a lot of pretty poor weeks and he's a guy that probably puts well every week, right? And it's very obvious. It's all about matches. And I want to say like he does have a funky swing. I like it though. I want more. I liked it, it's different. Oh yeah.

So he's a blast watch. Yes, I do like watching him play golf. That was a great, there's some like quote unquote, duels that I can check out of pretty easily. I was totally locked in. Those two guys were like totally different styles, different, different kind of approaches, different skill sets, and it was just a blast.

I had an awesome week. I had my eye on the fifth hole all week. I thought we could do it. I thought maybe we could have a par five that would play more than a shot under par. Do you have the final numbers in? Five bogies, 15 pars, 122 birdies, and 10 eagles played to a scoring average of 4.099.

Gosh. Can confirm in round two, we did break the sound barrier four eagles three pars 31 birdies later to a scoring average of 3.974 for a 526 yard par five there. So that's why it's just fun and they insist on making it a par 73. It's like there's probably a probably make one of these par fires of par four evidence being honestly a couple of them. Yeah, that's basically what you guys around like 175 and 15. The scoring average on that hole is lower than the average score scoring average on par

fours on the PGA tour. It's not even a hard par four. JT tough start to the week. Shot 74 in round one came home in a fury 67 61 65 struggle with the putting early on. Putted very well over the weekend. He was positive stroke scheme putting as I wrote this in my notes and then he ended up just about a half shot underneath. But his putting is going to be worth watching.

It was not very good last year did not start great this year. It was worth watching on Thursday. Just not for the reasons that he would hope, but it was crazy to see how like not close he looked on Thursday and just to see what happened over the last three days was insane. He might significantly fuck people up. That's Sony.

That's gonna be an easy bet. I mean, it's kind kind of a full circle. You're at Capillew for JT. You know, tough year last year. They did keep talking about what great karma he had at Capillew, which was. Well, but I was also thinking like now, it was just kind of seeing him out there.

He's got new clothing, new sponsors, like it's all new. New caddy, like there's a lot, a lot of change going on for JT so good to see him playing well he has a Prestige World wide nominee on it on his chest for sponsor that name. I have no idea what it means lineage. What do you guys think lineage does? I don't know some sort of just Neil get like special like separate like sponsorship They always work since I I love that that's one thing that's fascinating to me about golf is just like, you know this like there's so many random companies You have no idea. I'm gonna guess it's some sort of vague investment situation. Okay. What do you got?

Supply chain management close. It's frozen food to like like trucking frozen food trucking and storage and distribution and yeah, frozen foods. Did you guys see the paychecks? Refredurated food trucks. All right, that's enough of the free ads. No, the paychecks they just blew me away. What's that? I don't know what even what the company is.

They just sponsored golfers at like 1991. Yeah. Remember you always had like Jeff Sloom here and had like a paychecks hat on? There was like a new paychecks commercial. And I just, well, I guess what I get fast in is by like how How did that ha like who did they play to golf at a you know that's from chair the event and the guy's like yeah It's JT guys cool. I'm gonna call my VP of marketing. Hey get this guy one thousand guys chest. Yeah, it's team Excel for you

It's crazy. I love it. So anyway lineage in early early favorite for the prestige worldwide award The Roman ad first of all we're zooming past like the Inu windows in golf advertising now. It's just straight sex. Like sex sells, baby. Honey mustard. My wife laughed out loud with the, you know, I won't spoil it for anybody, but the good, the payoff punch line at that. My wife laughed out loud and like scared the shit out of me.

Because I was like, we had, we're just kind of sitting there watching. I was like, well, you know, you're seen in 150 times. I was gonna say, it's gonna get old very quickly, of course. But yeah, between that and Ralph waxing poetic in Hawaii, I was kind of getting in the mood there. I was trying to watch it. Did you get what you wanted to say? Well, he's the best.

I love it. He's so passionate about Hawaii. We used to joke with him a lot about it. He took it very in stride and punched back about it and I always appreciated that about him. God, they had on Friday, they had a, I don't know who was putting maybe like Van Royan and in the background some guy was just shredding

in the, like Honolue of Bay. Honolue of Bay. And nobody mentioned anything. It was just like, you know the camera guy was like, oh in the, like, Honolue a Bay. And nobody mentioned anything. It was just like, you know the camera guy was like, oh shit, look at this. It should win a fucking Emmy. It was like straight out of endless summer. It was awesome.

I was gonna say speaking of wild libu, it went on the 24 different, different tangents since then, but Bryson, no longer in the dumb hat. That was huge. What a development. It like, honestly, it took me like nine holes to know. So I'm like, oh, like some's a little different about Bryson.

Has anybody asked him about it in an interview? I would assume that's in the police report, I'm sure. So. Because I'd love to hear like his reasoning, which is probably like, yeah, you know, I analyze the data and I got sick of people calling me a chode. So I decided it was time to just, no, I think it'd be the opposite. No, I like what the, I don't, I laugh when they call me a joke.

I'm totally fine with it. I think it's great. I don't know why they call me a joke. Also, I tweeted after Thursday, Thursday's round, 200,000 hour ball speed felt easy today. Let's see what I have in the tank tomorrow. How did that go? I don't know if he got there.

I don't know if he got there. He kind of, yeah, his first week there as a, speaking of being on putting watch with no green books, Bryson had a tough day today. He shot one under today, which was actually quite literally a tough day. He was 18th and Sharps game putting this week, nothing, nothing really too noteworthy in this one. But he's coming to wildlife. How fun is that going to be? Really excited for that. I mean, he's, I, I have to look at a map again to see what he's going to be able to pull off. But yeah, I remember when JT was cutting corners that we hadn't seen people do before,

imagine what Bryson's gonna be able to do. Now, for sure. And that's again, where it's gonna, you know, all this stuff is gonna be very fun in the short term. It feels a little bit like some of the stuff we were saying at Wingfoot, right? Where it's like, when one guy does it, it's a blast. When like a bunch of you guys do it,

I don't think it's a harbinger of great things to come, but I'm gonna have a blast watching Bryson first rig. P has enlisted, of course, in the troops. I think the only club. Speaking of tough weeks, the only club in his bag is the driver. That's what I heard, I believe, which is, I don't know, that's what they tweeted.

They tweeted at me. PXG did? Yeah, they had involved. I forget. I was being snarky and I was saying how much I was excited I was because P was in last place with a brand new set of like brand new set of clubs and like hot mics going on. Not a lot of fans of like he might like lights and people on fire today on Friday and unfortunately shot 63. But I think PXG. I don't know.

They waited in and said roll around like a pig in the mud. I'm not gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that.

I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that.

I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I'm gonna talk about that. I think he's only playing their driver and it's like an old driver. But what? But I could be wrong. I could have misinterpreted the tweet. I don't know. I didn't pay too close attention. Yeah. I don't know. He was 36th and Showscape off the tee this week. So, or keep an eye on that one. PGA Tour live debuted on ESPN plus this past week. Did you guys get to watch much of that? I watched a little bit. I thought it was, you know, it was great.

Like I don't, I wouldn't say change my life, but it was felt just like watching PGA tour live from last year. I did not get a chance to, let me ask you this. Was it easy to find, easy to log in, easy to do? Yeah, if you have ESPN, I watch it on my Apple TV. So like the ESPN app on my Apple TV, just right to ESPN plus and super easy.

It's just in there amongst all the other sports I saw. I think Shacklford was tweeting some screenshots of, like the cool thing about ESPN, right, is you have all these other sports that they're broadcasting. So they do kind of like the simulcasts of, you know, you're watching football in one window and you're watching golf in another window and you can, like, that's something

that obviously wasn't possible with PJ Tour live. So I think there's a ton of upside. I thought it was great. I think there was some whispers that it might be this, you know, production nightmare that they were turning the keys over. It was all like new people and new processes and they had never really done cop allure before

and it was great. I thought it was pretty seamless. I remained optimistic, so I gotta check it out. And I don't wanna give a full review on it just yet, one, because I think it's watched a lot, but two also, this is kind of the bare bones yet. This is not the main feed that's gonna be coming when they come back mainland at the American Express.

This is a PGA tour live light, basically, for what the offerings will be, which is expected understandable for, I'm amazed and kind of surprised that they're out in Hawaii. Like that's not a simple thing to do. One of my favorite pictures is always when golf channel tweets, like the image, like the shipping container of all the golf channel stuff, leaving Hawaii and heading for California for, or I don't know if it's heading for, do they kind of do a skip ahead?

Do they have a couple of mobile units? I don't know, but I have at least two or three because they have a couple of mobile units? I don't know. But I don't know. I don't have at least two or three because they have to send, I think they always send the one if I'm remembering right. I think they send the one from Capulua to the Hualalai event, the champion. Oh, I can.

And then I think there's also one at Sony and then I think they kind of skip over. The next one goes to Palm Springs and then go to Phoenix or wherever. That always reminds me of the next one. I don't know if it's like four or five years ago and there's like a strike with, oh yeah., guys. Yeah, that's Sony that's Sony Right that was so sick

Well, Jerry Foltz was up in that one hour like all right everybody everybody grab a camera. We're doing it live. That was sick They had some some weird stuff was going on Thursday with the with the seven-second button And not to if we can do a quick hamstring I don't have a whole lot from this week. I thought it was totally fine coverage, whatever. I don't have a lot to play. But they were hidden. It was almost like any time a player started to talk like everything went dead quiet. And I don't know if it was someone getting a quick trigger and and afraid of cuss words that were to come or something like that, but it was a horrible look. And it stuck out pretty much everyone to just,

worst thing you can do is just let people, like treat people like idiots and act like we can't deduce what they're saying, which if every one of those things was something horrible being said, golf would be really hard to watch. I would push back and say the worst thing you can do is probably what happened to Keppeluit last year. Probably.

Yeah, probably. The second worst thing is what you're just doing. I'm sure there's a production meeting. that was like, all right, guys. Let's keep it in the pool. We're going to look out for the whole list. The bikes are going to be hot out there. There's no fans, OK? Yeah.

And the other thing, the only thing I would say this week that actually my fiance, Carson brought up that she's like, how can you, how can you stand this? You're going to tread lightly where you go in here. What's that? On the levels. No. Oh, I thought you were talking about the's that? On the levels. No, dude. Oh, I thought you were talking about the levels they had on the ground.

No, no cars were pissed off. The level I'm in on the levels. She was like enough with the props. I'm like, no, that was great. I was not carrot-talking. All right, sorry, I'm sorry. Proceed. It was the airplane or what is that?

Nukin' the mics. Like, they're turning the mics up so they're trying to catch conversation so that you can't pick. Like, I just want to listen to the voice. Like, they're also getting, like, there turning the mics up so they're allowed trying to catch conversation so that you can't pick, like I just want to listen to the voice, like they're also getting, like there's so many airplanes. Yeah.

Circle and cause there's so many, like I assume, just, you know, tours of the island. Sure. All kinds of, but that drone is a little bit, the low drone just constantly, kind of, that's the only thing that ruins the, think until the hollow, a low hop hop. Until we get some mic to players,

I think that's gonna be the price we got pay. Yeah Thank you for a look inside the production truck there. Thank you. The levels were sweet though Yes, I'm out. Can't wait on that to be a person could take that away all the people be in you know pessimists about the at least they're out there. Yeah, try and shit and yes notice out there Rolum John Woods out there was on Friday Thursday or Friday the guys in the booth were kind of trolling was out there, John Woods out there, Rolls Balls. On Friday, Thursday or Friday, the guys in the booth were kind of trolling No-Tah or the levels.

What's up with that, by the way? We gotta get through it. Love keeps saying that. He hits him with No-Tah. No-Tah. No-Tah. What do you think No-Tah? It's like, okay.

But they were like, oh, you know, like, they were, I don't know, they were just kind of clowning and then the levels just keep coming back and coming back so that they got on board with the levels. Well, that's great. It's almost like they should be having fun out there. 100%.

Make it a perfect reward. Yeah, I'm on, I don't pin that take on me. Okay, I will say, like by Sunday, a simple relay of like, yeah, 10 degrees slow, put a little graphic up there. But not everybody's watching all for that. I know. They're out there. That was, you know, I'm with you on ham there. But not everybody's watching all for that. I know. You know, they're out there. I, that was, you know, I'm with you on hamster. I don't have a lot of bad stuff to say.

I has a lot of positive stuff to say. It's good. I've, Rolf, you mentioned was great. I thought, her birems are awesome. He does such a good job there. Out there, it's, it's just very, very cool to see them clearly like try and different stuff, right? And whether it's props, whether it's,

do you hear this story, John Wood told about Steve Williams? Mm-hmm. He was talking about Steve, like they're talking about how unculated the back nine is and how hard of a walk it is. We heard that from Phil. Obviously, John Wood was talking about, he said he emailed Steve Williams

to confirm this story. And he bet Tiger one year when they were out there that he could run the entire back nine, touching every T-box at every greed in under 30 minutes, and he did it in 28 minutes. Really? For anyone who's been to Kabalua,

that is astounding. And also, I was gonna say, last time I'll say this, but for anyone going to Kabalua, don't think you're gonna shoot 33 under. It's really fucking hard. I bet. As I can resort golf course, because of all the elevation change,

I play their shot a billion. So that's an even bigger, there are two games of golf going on. There's real golf and there's PJ tour golf. And that is the one thing I'm amazed at their ability to very quickly adjust to horrifically downhill lives. It's like way, like balls are way below your feet and control the ball the way they, because that's not,

of course they're incredibly talented, but that's not the question that's asked of them almost anywhere. Like Augusta, I know, has a lot of slopes and things like that, but this is a very unique situation. Right? So in conclusion on the hampshaft, the formula for, you know, golf channel golf on television is very simple if you ask me.

It's just no foul-dow. That's all it takes. The whole vibe is so much different and better. Do you want to talk about the Mutt and Chaps? I do. Let's get to one last thing and then we can get into Mutt and Chap-Kate. Rapsoto.com slash NLU promo code NL you for $100 off a mobile launch monitor. You've heard us talk a lot about these mobile launch monitors.

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Probably. Can I get a commitment from you? Sure. When you hit 180, can we get a 180? 100%. 100%. Okay. I'll get there.

You guys were a little hard on me on my goals for getting. I was honest. I don't know why you feel the need that you have to hit the ball farther because I think you hit it plenty far. But can we Jay made a point that maybe you're planning some you know cocktail tour events where guys are blown up by you. I don't get the sense that they are maybe kneel to blow it up. I honestly I hate to say that's not really not really like I want, I hate to say this. Not really. Not really. Like I want to be you off the tee. Like that's what I want to be. But listen to that, Rory Pobba. I know he said about prices.

I hit it like five yards on a good, like you constantly were trained with the title belt. But you have dialed back, like you've dialed back and are now, so you've always been longer than me, but I used to be a better driver than you because I was in play more often. Okay. Now you are in play as much as I'm in play and you're a little longer than me. used to be a better driver than you because I was in play more often. Okay. Now you are in play as much as I'm in play

and you're a little longer than me. Like you're a better driver than golf ball. So you want to get, basically, you want to up your max so that you can rep out at a comfy speed. I'm not honestly trying to bomb it. I just want easier speed. And one thing, my thing was like, I wanted a goal to improve in golf.

Better club head speed is going to help you in so many other ways than just off the tee. But I wanted something also that a goal to improve in golf. Better clubhead speed is gonna help you in so many other ways than just off the tee, but I wanted something also that was gonna improve, like practicing a bunch of irons and practicing chipping and putting is not gonna help me in normal everyday life, but if I'm doing like workouts to help me drive it further, that also helps me in everyday life. Sure. It's a good kind of goal to bridge one thing.

It's spreading the goal out across a couple different objectives. Well, if you want to hear a shred, Sally, it's on that trap. Drugs, goals pod. He wasn't there for it. I wasn't able to be a part of it, but we're in shred. No, I thought we were fair. Totally fair.

I was just asking the questions that everybody else was probably asking while they're listening. So it's a good stretch goal. Do you want to talk about chop, mutton chop? Yeah, I don't know why we're talking about this in January when this is September. For everyone listening, this is Finau. Yeah, okay. I don't even know, I mean, I don't know where to start. We made a bet at the beginning of last year.

You you tell me when I'm wrong here because my memory gets a little hazy. We made a bet that you said he was gonna win what 15 times. Oh, you're gonna go there. I'll run like that. It's just two years ago now. This is 2020. We had a spirit of debate sitting right here. And I said he would win an event. I think I said he's won two events. He'd win two events before the end of the year. I think it was three, but we can make it. It was two. It was two.

And he, the pandemic happens, and then you extended it through the end of the West Coast swing, but you also much, much pleading from you. If you clearly wasn't going to get a minute, I think. Of course, but you also conceded that he would have won the Wasteman's big, but he went and played the bone-saw invitation as well. So, anyways, I lost that bet. The stakes of that bet were on air apology for the bet.

Will you apologize for free now? And I said, I will, if he doesn't win, I will. And I paid that bet. Which is pretty toothless, but just keep that back. That was the bet. That was the bet. We agree that. That's what we agreed on.

Now, we, at that time time when I made the apology, I said, I will also bet you guys for the remainder of the year. I will bet you he wins. You know, I think we had the Florida swing through the end of, you know, the FedEx Cup playoffs. I said, he's gonna win it. We have it this year and you said, no, he won't. Okay, so I will leave that aside.

Of course he is and Randy said, no, no, no, we're taking the bet. So I actually think I was saying in this exact chair and that's pretty much how it went. Cause DJ's stance has always been, he should win. That's the bet. And he did win. Yes. Okay.

So what was the stakes of that? What were the stakes? The stakes were I said, if he doesn't win by the end of this year and I'll bet you this on this, I will shave my beard into faldo mutton chops. Okay. And you hesitantly, but you took that bet. And Randy did as well. Again, I blacked out during this. I don Okay. And you hesitantly, but you took that bet.

And Randy did as well. Again, I blacked out during this. I don't remember a lot of this, but I trusted that's how it went down. So you owe mutton chops? Yes. As does Randy. Okay. As does Randy.

I will ensure that that gets done. Which we will do, but we, I tweeted something. Let's skip now to this week. Fino's beard, absolutely assing on, looked outrageous. It's not even a beard, it's like a J-beauter chin strap. It's like a chin strap, it's the, I don't even know what you call it. It just like dipped just the tip of his chin in like a jar of pain. It's sweet, it's like, it's what the,

it's like, I was rocking into a hasa. Very dursty, a very dursty. Very dursty and, yeah, very I-10. The I-10 corridor look. So I said if he wins a major, I'll do it. Being ready, you're going to do it. And then we, there was some back and forth and slack. And I think we agreed on I was trying to get you to say if he didn't win, the bet was going to be if he didn't win for the whole year, you had to do it if you want a major, me and Randy would do it. You've pushed back on that, you've pushed this back to the middle to where...

Which I think is fair. I'm not going I'm not sorry on this the bet is pretty Why ridiculous your bet if he wins or if he does it is the bet like there it can't be Like you were trying to well, no, I was trying to get a little odd of course He's gonna win like he's one of the best players in the world literally 50 50 on draft Kings like it was 50 50 We proposed this to them. He's got a good point. No, he does. Which is why I agreed to it. Yeah. And also like his performance this week, like, you're playing good. You threatened to take it public so that people would harass me

about about wanting the bet to be 50-50. And of course that PC is my lawyer. Get his ass. Get his ass. My lawyer advised me to do that. That was, you know. All right, so what are the stakes? The beard.

You have to wear the phenal. No, I thought it was, okay, that's so not, but the mutton chops are set. No, I'll pay the mutton chops ever. That's being arbitrator elsewhere. Okay. How long do you have to keep the chin trep for? I think at least 24 hours.

Oh, okay. It's the same five days, but sure, that's fine. I was gonna say a week too. Three days, 72 hours. Let's not, you know what, who's not COVID-19? I think it's, I don't know. There's let's not. Oh look who's not confident. I think there's a precedent set. A precedent set with the NLE census from years ago and I had to discol it. It was 72 hours. No, wasn't. I shade USA into the

side of my head and I hit it for five days. So let's go to the front. How about two? Two full days, 48 hours. Okay, that feels fair. Okay, two full and just got, you know, got to be available for. It can't be like, like, you got to go to the grocery store and just got, you know, got to be available for, it can't be like all of it. You got to go to the grocery store. You got to, you know, you have to like, you have to go join society at least a little bit. Like go about your normal business. Can't just, can't just be a whole house.

Where are you going to pick a side? Are you just watching from the sidelines? Come play with me. It's more fun on this side. No, it's way more fun on this side. Root for Finau. I mean, he's going to win. I know. for Finau. I mean he's gonna win I know like of course he's gonna win. That's the whole fucking point. It's not 50 50

I know it is 50 50 on paper. You know, it's not 50 50. It's a hundred percent 50 But I also like dumb facial hair so come on in then that would mean what do you think is gonna happen? That's just gonna win. Okay, come on with me. All right. I'll ride with Sally. Let's do it. I'm in. I'm going to, I'm going to join the big tone. I'm in with the big tabernacle. That's a tone ranger. tone ranger. So I heard the tone rangers. Let's go. All right. Rady better be with me. I think he's already.

He's a committed yet. Okay. Another news. And for Ness to host the 2027 US women's open purse goes to 10 million dollars from $5.5 million this year. Let me ask you guys this. Is it a big deal that the US women's open will now have a presenting sponsor? First USA, USGA championship to have one. No, if that's what it takes to get the job done, I don't think so. I don't think so. I think means to an end 100% cool with that. That's great. That's full stop for me. I think especially in a sport, you know, on the women's side that it's been pretty evident that purses should and need to grow

to even come close to the men's side. And just in general should grow. Like, if any way to get it done, salute Mike Wahn and the team for this. Can I run this the future US women's open lineup? Bye, you guys. It's so good. 2022 this year pine needles, 2023, pebble beach, 24, Lancaster Country Club, 25, Aaron Hills, 26, Riviera, 27, Inverness, 29, Pyners to double dip back to back with the men's yet again, 15 years after the successful one in 2014. How fun is that? Unbelievable. Awesome. It's just exciting news on the US women's open. I don't know how much of that was in the works already and how much of that should just go. I know there was a lot of probably rightful praise to Mike Wahn, but if that wasn't in the works

before he showed up and he pushed that through already, then who's the presenting sponsor? Promedica. Never heard of that. Maybe. You know, just wanted to make sure you got another sponsor. I was curious. Like I thought maybe it was, but that's even more interesting of like good for pro-medica. Make it splash. They deserve to be called out. Exactly. Yeah. I agree with that. I agree with that. A little bit of a prestige worldwide situation. Sure. Sure. Sure. For the USGA. Can you guys kick off the next topic for us? Oh my god. We're going to the We're the web three

News of the week the links Dow. What is Dow stand for? Do you guys know what Dow stands for? Decentralize something organization decentralized autonomous organization. I believe so I obviously we're gonna get probably I believe so I obviously we're gonna get probably The board apes are gonna be coming for the roads here for for even discussing this probably nothing It's probably nothing you need to change your password. They're coming after your apes 100% They're where we are in their crosshairs now But I want to call out that there's been I picked up on this news links now They've created they're trying to buy a top 100 golf course and they've created a digital golf club on the internet by selling an NFT.

What's an NFT, Dege? Non-fungible token. That's right. It's a non-fungible token. It's a microsoft. You basically have it taken it. What's in the JPEG? For this situation, I think it means that you have a, basically you bought a ticket or the

best way to put it is you bought a preferred seat license, which I've always thought were really fucking stupid at like stadiums. It would basically you paid up front to then pay them for your seat ticket line to get in line. Yeah, so you're paying for your spot in line, but it's a non-fungible spot in line. Meaning nobody else can cut you in line or they apparently, unless you're an idiot like with this board ape stuff where people have been stealing their NFTs, nobody can steal it from you, but you can't fake it. Is I guess the difference there? The technology cannot be hacked in theory. Which is, I think there's an interesting use case for this,

which I wanna call out in a second, but I wanna call out the refuge, which is our message board. And we also have a digital membership or club, if you will, which is called the nest. And the nest members have been active helping me keep up with this. There's a threat on the message board. You can find it by becoming a member. But good thing is you can buy our NFT because the link style is like people playing like thousands of dollars.

It's ours is 90 bucks a year. So I guess we underpriced it. I don't know because right now all they're getting is a message board and the potential to play in a golf meetup until they figure out where to where to buy this top 100 course. So I think the, you know, it's the value and the nest is crazy. Check it out. No, I'm letting up.com forward slash nest. Anyway, for its nest or joint or for its last joint. Excuse me. God, I blew that. So I think the discussion on the message for it

has been the perfect amount of like knowledgeable, but really sarcastic. I mean there's been like a, what? Links Dow guy that has a contributor who's in there. And I appreciate him coming in and kind of laying out like, hey, here's what we're up to. And then there's a lot of skeptical, you know, avid golfers in there. But then there's a good amount of optimism sprinkled in. So I feel like then there's a lot of skeptical, you know, avid golfers in there.

But then there's a good amount of optimism sprinkled in. So I feel like I've learned a lot, and a lot of these guys have been combing through the fine print. So I really appreciate the back and forth that I've been reading. Can I just say with this whole world, both with crypto, NFTs, metaverse, decentralized, 3.0, all this stuff,

I have spent an extraordinary amount of time in the last month like reading and learning about it. Can't explain it to anybody still. Like I, no matter how much time I pour into it, I still, I think I understand it, but I cannot explain it. Like my dad is asking me this question, like, yo, I don't have it.

I can't teach it to you, it makes sense in my head, but I can't explain it. The best I can do in my head is like some analogies and with the, you know, NFT stuff, it's like a little bit of like what's the use case, right? It's like, all right, so what I see for the, like, the NFTs for a use case would be like, I feel like a gust of national should be looking really hard

at NFTs because if they made their tickets and NFT, then all of those people reselling them, they know immediately. Like, you know how they like to made their tickets and NFT, then all of those people reselling them, they'd know immediately. Like, you know how they like to pull their tickets from people if you resell them, it's the hardest ticket in sports to get. That would completely, you know, it would be a way for the organization or entity

that gave you a ticket to something, to then make money on the resale of that ticket or if it's like, air Jordan, it's the resale of those Jordan's on the secondary market like percentage of that could come back to the organization. So there's like I guess down the road there's a there's a lot of future uses for them but in the big difference to that I think myself and people are struggling with too is like NFTs are not just like artworks like they're not like you know they now do this for a lot of NFTs

is that it's like baseball, online, baseball trading cards, right? Or works of art, but like, that is, there's collectibles within that are non-fungible. That's like, all right, if you buy Bitcoin, like that is a fungible token. Like every piece of Bitcoin is equal to the next piece

of Bitcoin, it's all the same. They're fungible, but non-fungibles, like you have a unique code basically that goes with this digital asset that you own. So if you own a board ape, like you own that one, you know, you pay $12,000 for it, you're hoping to sell it to somebody for 20 or whatever, but you own the one, one of one for that or however many there are for that. That's non-fungible, that's not equal to board eight number 18 that's down the road that somebody else has. Those are, that's, but the hard part for people to understand is like somebody could also just like,

yeah, you own that copy, but someone could also just have like a copy, like a digital image. You know, it's not like the ones you own. Yeah, yeah, what do you own? Like, it's very easy on the internet to just like cool. I'm just gonna like take a screenshot and that's now, like technically it's not your board eight, but like I think people are having trouble like what's the point, right? And I get that, because I feel that way too.

So when I saw this link style thing, I'm like my first reaction was kinda like, oh man, a little bit of FOMO, like maybe we should be exploring this stuff and like doing something like that. Maybe we could do something like that with a nest and then I get into it and I'm like, man the more I read about it,

it's like, the pros, they've raised $11 million for something that doesn't exist yet, which is awesome, good for them, that's really cool. And I hope with the goal of buying a top 100 golf course, like if they can buy a top 100 golf course, run it and keep 10,000 people happy and allow those 10,000 people

that have now bought like the right to then buy a membership like happy in some capacity. I'm rooting for them, right? But then we've got the guys on the refuge like digging into some of the fine print and it's like, yeah, it's pretty tough. So I want to I want to read something real real quick and then shout out to my guy Barry Goldberg on the refuge. This is quote, from the terms of service, you understand that the development of links, dials, business is as significantly risky venture. And you acknowledge and assume the risk that links, dial may not be able to complete substantially

or in part, the acquisition of a golf course or any other aspect of its operations. And furthermore, that a significant portion of the funds generated by the membership NFT drop are expected to be retained by links Dow Inc. For any lawful business purposes, your purchase of an NFT could lead to the complete loss of your money and no payments will be returned.

Which I think I'm totally guessing. And I'm quickly like you guys way out of my depth on all this stuff. But I was reading, did you listen to podcasts about the Constitution Dow stuff. I did not. All the whole group, same thing. The whole group was trying to buy a like one of the original copies of the Constitution and they raised all this money and then they got outbid by like $100,000 by I forget one

of your billionaire associates, I'm sure, from the Northeast Neil. A private equity man. get one of your billionaires associate, some share from the Northeast Neil. A private equity man. And, but the point was because of the way that that Dow was set up, all that money was only set to be like, all that money was only useful towards the purchase of this document. And because they couldn't purchase the document,

all the money goes back. All the money goes back. This seems like they are circumventing that and say like, no, no, no, no, we don't want that problem. So like if we don't purchase the document, all the money goes back. All the money goes back. This seems like they are circumventing that and say like, no, no, no, we don't want that problem. So like if we don't get the golf course, we're just gonna hang on to the money as. And we'll do something else with it. Administrative.

So, and that's the thing. And I wanna say that I, it sounds like the guys that are doing this have great intentions. And I, it feels like there's a lot of great energy. So I'm not trying to like yuck any yumps here and be an asshole. But it's like, okay, so let So I'm not trying to like, yuck any yums here and be an asshole. But it's like, okay, so let's say they do have good intentions, but this is like, what if people don't have good intentions

and they carbon copy and paste this idea? Like, who's, and then the people are like, oh yeah, this is great, it's gonna like democratize golf and stuff. It's like, well, wait a second, the only people now, everyone's anonymous. So you have no, there's no filter for like, the no asshole policy at a golf club.

And so basically if you have the money and you want to buy one of these memberships or one of these NFTs to then buy the membership, like anybody with the money can do it. So you have no control over like who joins. And not only that, but the more money you put in, the more voting rights you have, which is very like, I wonder who's gonna have the biggest set. Yeah, so it's like, wait a second.

That's the part of this where I'm like, okay, it's cool technology and it's an interesting story to me, but I'm like, what problem is it solving? People like, all country clubs suck. It's like, well, this sounds like a worse version of the country club. Without any of the checks and balances on like, yo, we don't want that guy to join.

Like, he stinks. No, exactly. And that's what, yeah. Okay, I've spent probably less time than you even looking into it. And yeah, a lot of the energy feels very like, no, no, no, no, like we're taking it back, man. We're like, we're democratizing this stuff.

We're doing it like, you don't understand, like this is gonna be a thing where like only members have like voting rights and we're gonna raise all this money together and then we're gonna choose the voting rights and we're gonna raise all this money together and then we're gonna choose the property and then we're gonna all set the rules together. It's like, well, you know, isn't that how country clubs work? I know that's the thing.

It's just like a sexier way of doing it. So you can't cheat what has got us into this problem with golf in the first place. You can't just bypass exclusivity, the cost of land. You can't have 10,000 members and get through a T sheet in one day. Exactly. You can't. The only way to do it is like subsidy. Yes. Somebody has to cover. Somebody has to pay for it. Or maybe it's a, it's not just going to magically get cheap. And so maybe it's like, did all these guys just buy an NFT to pay for, you know, to 10,000 people buy an NFT so that 500 people

can then have the money to now join the club. So then it seems like. So there's 9,500 people are gonna be, what maybe they go to a meetup? Like, it's just like, man, that's a, so I'm fascinated to see how this plays out. And again, I expect to get a lot of feedback on us discussing this.

Like, I'm open to, like, tell me why I'm wrong, right? But I feel like I've spent more time than I needed to this week reading about this, being like still like I hate saying this, but like I wanna raise my hand and be like, go I don't get it. Would love somebody to explain to me like, why is it's not like a huge Kickstarter?

Like I get, I honestly feel like I kinda understand the technology and why the technology's a little different than regular crowd source crowdfunding or, you know, the way a country club works now. And but I don't understand why this Dow is different than any other country club and how it gets around like the problems that country clubs have.

Why they're exclusive is because you can't serve that many people and keep them all happy. Now, yeah, like golf is too exclusive. I get that. I'm here for like let's democratize golf. I just don't think this isn't any way doing that. That's what I'm getting at. So like I'm almost sick of that argument.

Someone else tell me why this is valuable. It seems again, this is a I fear being a part of the, what is internet clips from the 1994 in this, but I'm with you in terms of like, I don't know what, yeah, what really part, what this is solving, like what, I feel it's like that news cycles are so in on this whole idea of NFTs right now that it's like,

NFTs have now hit this, you collectibles industry. Now they've hit golf, like print it. They're doing this, here's what they're doing, print it at CNBC wherever these articles are going with how it actually, it'll be clicked. Yeah, exactly. Without actually being like,

hey, like how is this structure actually gonna work when they say straight up in their terms of service? Like, yo, we don't know how this is gonna work at all. Now that every story, like every new story that I, which to your point, it's like, I honestly thought the best stuff I read was on the refuge. Yeah, exactly. All a bunch of bored lawyers, like talking about the terms

of service and putting it in layman's terms. All the news stories were like, you're never gonna, these people just raised $11 million to go buy a golf course. Like, well, no, the money's not worth a golf course though. They just explicitly said they're not spending it on that. We've got a couple guys in there that are in the discord. I don't want to blow them up because they might get thrown out of the bar. But what they're putting in our message board is like,

it's not really good or bad. It's just like, here's what's being talked about. And I'll say this to like the last six months, I got a friend I used to work with in San Francisco that runs and works at a company doing NFT stuff. And I said to the mess, I was like, hey, what could, what could NLU do with an NFT? Like I've thought about this a good amount

for like the nest and what we do. And I keep coming back to every, every NFT idea I have for NLU, it doesn't seem valuable to me, which is usually a kind of a core thing for us. We should do stuff that informs or entertains or interests us. And all the ideas, like, ah, that doesn't really interest me. Like digital art, like, ah, no, that feels like, it feels like I'm trying to get more money from people

without offering more value. That's where I, you know what I'm saying? That's where, again, hand up. I probably haven't read as much as I need to, but that's what it always ends up feeling like to me is... Like, you use the baseball card analogy, solid, which seems like a really good one. For, I shouldn't say, let me back up.

I get from a music standpoint, from a movie standpoint, like, I get how you could make make how you could fit a use case like Extremely well. I get how a very well-known band could do something outrageously awesome and say like this is only for this NFT Holder and an artist could do that too, right and but a like who's Like whose art is the goal to ever be like I I hope this only gets seen by like three people. Yeah. That's one. Outside of like a novelty, you know, a novelty thing.

Two, here's the thing people are hanging them in their metaverse spaces in their real estate that they're bought. It just gets complicated. And that's the part where it's like, yeah, maybe I just like totally don't care. I don't wanna live in the metaverse. I don't wanna wear an NLU hat in a fucking fake world.

So that's what I'm saying. I get that that's valuable to a younger generation maybe, but not to me. So I'm like, you know what, I don't wanna spend my time making that. Let me just put my hand in the sand. I won't be participating. I'm not saying it's not valuable to somebody.

And that's great, but I'm opting out. Yeah. But circling back is like, I wish that, yeah, I wish some of these, I can do with so much less of the like, you don't understand, man, this is gonna revolutionize the world. And it's like, no, I don't think you understand

that like how clear it is you're just trying to fucking like, build a pyramid scheme or like, profit off of somebody down the line here. And straight up, like just say, a million bucks, like that's awesome. Oh, like, yo, that's really something. But like, just say 11 million bucks. Like that's awesome. Oh, you know, that's really something. But like I would feel so stressed. I know how stressed that we've gotten

with our membership and message board stuff. When you feel like you're not delivering, oh my God, I wouldn't be able to sleep right now. If I had $11 million of other people's money and like everybody's telling me what they want me to do because they have governance over it, book, that. That's gonna say, we also try to do it

in none of this fake election of the ref. Oh my God, it didn't go well. It did go well. We thought it'd be like, you know, like a civics class in high school, like, oh yes, it was fun, it was not, it was not fun. Oh no, those are good old days. When the revenue used to burn to the ground

and we'd build it back, no, that sucked. The, on a very different note, report came out this week, Steve Stricker recovering from a health scare put him in the hospital for two weeks. Soaring white blood cell count inflammation around his heart, hospitalize him for two weeks and he lost 25 pounds. I said it was not COVID related

according to the article on golf channel.com, but that's pretty wild. Wild shout out to Gary Demado, it always gets good stuff in the world of Wisconsin golf, but a crazy story, do you read the whole thing? Unbelievable, man, lost a ton of weight. Like, it's always wild to me in this, these times that we live in now,

when a story like that doesn't get publicized at all, until after the fact. It feels a little bit like the read. Oh yeah, it was on my doctor's told me in my die story. We're like, wait, what? How did I not hear about that? Like last week, this has apparently been going on

since the Ryder Cup, it's insane. So yeah, a speedy recovery is possible to stricker, hopefully. I don't, the source is not really known yet, and you can read the article on golfchannel.com for all the details of it, but yes, as well. Speedy recovery to strick. Couple questions here, and then we can wrap. We made, I think only one bone saw comment here so far

as we're, you know, over an hour into the podcast here. Question here from Scott Warren. With so many of the top 50 going to Saudi this year, it feels like there's a resigned acceptance from the game and fans that this is now a thing, much less outrage, much more Alonzo Morning Giff. Is it normalized now? Has MBS won?

It feels like it, which sucks. I don't know if it's, it maybe it's just going the way that every other sport, like F1, if we want to use that example, it's like a romco sponsors every title sponsor. F1. No one says a word about it. Like I agree with the. I don't support. Can I push back on that right there?

Because I think the difference in this is like, that's a Saudi company. And I get the public investment fund. I get all that. But like the players, the people involved are not having to stand there and say great things about or the Saudi government or what they're doing. There's there's almost like enough of a middle buffer organizational. Yes. Relationships where the drivers don't have to and drivers have I Lewis Hamilton straight up like spoke out about did not feel comfortable racing there that they need to be scrutinized

for their human rights record. And you don't get any of that in the world of golf. These players that are getting paid huge amounts of amounts of cash to go play in this tournament and say great things about what's going on in Saudi Arabia. That's an important difference that we can't emphasize enough because I still see that line getting blurred repeatedly out there. I guess it's just a maybe a reaction of like it's gone through the news cycle. It is a bit of a lot of morning. It's a bit of a helpless thing of like, it's gone through the news cycle. It is a bit of a lawn zone warning. It's a bit of a helpless thing of like, well, you know,

I mean, those guys are all gonna make that decision. There's nothing we can do about it. And I guess our choice is not to watch, right? But the, or we could be critical. But that's not, is that, I mean, that's where I, like, what is that wrong of me to say out loud? Like, oh, I'll shrug my shoulders now. But like, that's, I'll shrug my shoulders now. Like, that's...

I feel the exact same way. It's like, man, the coldly, like logical part of my brain is looking at what has gone on in the world and what companies they have already kind of quietly softly taken over and what leagues they've pushed around and what's probably, it's so clear what's going to happen, right? Which is exactly what the question is kind of spelling out. It's like, yeah, each year it's gonna get

a little quieter and a little quieter. It feels louder than ever this year to me. Really? I think so. I feel like it has. I mean, Washington Post just had an article up, call it, you know, golfers go in there, call it what it is, it's taking blood money. I guess that's a pretty widely circulated

newspaper calling attention to the specific names and people that have committed to it, which if, if the names I found online Dustin Johnson, Tony Fiennell, Cam Smith and Leish recently committed this past week, which I have to admit was disappointing. Tommy Fleetwood, as discussed with him on the podcast this past week, Patrick Reed, Matt Wolfe, Phil Mickelson, Bryce and Sergio Shane Lowry, Bubba, Zander, Ustay's in Lee, Westwood. I'm sure there's many more on the podcast this past week. Patrick Reed, Matt Wolfe, Phil Mickelson, Bryce and Sergio Shane Lowry, Bubba, Zander, Ustay's in Lee Westwood. I'm sure there's many more of those. This is opposite AT&T. Yes. I also wanted to take a moment just to like go down the world ranking list. At least, you know, we name all the guys that are going, give a shout to

guys that were due refuse to take the money and go. That includes Rory, Speed, JT, Mora Kawa. I'm sure there's a lot more that I'm not thinking I was hoveling going. I don't know. I don't know. Can't lay as he going, I don't know. But we'll take a better straw poll that is it gets closer, guys, that are not going, but it's, I don't know.

I just, you know, I just watched movie The Lost Leonardo. Oh, is that good? What a heavy hitter. I thought it was awesome. Yeah, I loved that one. Lots of MBS and that movie. I was gonna say, like, I, it's like every, but I guess the reason I brought that up

is like, it's not just sports, it's art, you know? I mean, watching the Louvre and how they're trying to deal with this, like, it's just like, and that's to finish my point. That's where like on the logical side of the brain, it's so clear that the train is left the station and it's running downhill and I think that, you know, I don't know, to me, I feel like I've heard more

about like the field this year than I have, you know, the finger wagging stuff. But it just feels like that's gonna be less and less and the other side of my brain is just shrieking that like, man, you have a podcast, like shouldn't you guys be talking about this every week? And the mix of those two is kind of a weird place. There's a little bit of safety in numbers, I think,

this year. For sure. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I feel that way. We're in the past. It's a lot easier to single guy out like, you know, like, I'll co-crack, look at him, you know, but it's like, now it's like, oh, shit, like, I like leash.

Yeah. I like camp. Yeah. Yeah, I just, like, you know, it's like, okay, well, damn. But that's a decision, they're allowed to make that decision. Like they are. They are, that's the thing though. It's like no one's questioning the right.

It's just the consequences to exercising that right as well. And in this era where we talk constantly, week after week about all of the money that's available on the tour of the currently playing on and how it's growing and all those things to also take that and also go across the pond and take blood money. It's just disappointing. I follow this sport not for the money that they make.

It's for the competition and that gets diluted. I feel like almost every single year, the more the money grows in this, and I don't, I'm just confused at some what I'm watching a lot of the times, and this just further dilutes it to be like, what, they're getting a bunch of appearance money, I don't care who wins the tournament, it means nothing to me,

they're not even really competing for that much money, or they're not competing for any points or anything, there's some OWGR points there, but now an Asian Tour event, it's not even a European Tour event, and it's just like, dude, perfect. Somebody like Phil that just got eight million bucks for winning the PIP and is going over to go take one month.

Well, whatever, going to go take the Saudi money. Like, yeah, dude, it's pretty disappointing. And I watched it for the second time a couple of weeks ago. If you haven't, if you haven't watched it, I think it's on Apple TV, the dissident, the movie, the dissident, Brian Fogelfilm, I believe. It's about, uh, MBS about Jamal Kashoggi, the murder, like all of the gory details of that and all they've done to suppress any people that speak out against them. And it's like, if I was the tour, I would have said, all right, you have to have, if you

want to go, you all have to sit in a room and watch this movie and then sign that you watched it and then say that you're gonna go play in this. Cause it's like that's, I just don't think these guys truly understand what they're doing with it. We were talking about that the other night. I feel like they have a good sense of, you know, the abstract. Yeah, of like, yeah, you know, things are tough.

I think they think, no, they know like the specific. I think they think I'm gonna get criticized for it. I know that without really actually knowing why. But it's gonna be, it's not going away. I've heard a rumor, I cannot confirm, it's heard a rumor that it will not be airing on golf channel, which is different than past years. I do not know that to be true.

I just heard a little, a little, you know, I heard that too. That's interesting, right? I mean, fuck, there's a lot of good players there too, you know, and like... And the views of the Red Sea. Well, of course. Of course. I mean, God, he's not about Mollekai. How about the Red Sea?

It's just, it's getting into a very... How about the Sinai? It's gonna get into a very interesting point, if it's not, I mean, obviously it already is, but it's a sneaky good field, man. There's a lot of good players, and it's going to just like, you would not, I mean, obviously it already is, but it's a sneaky good field, man. There's a lot of good players. And it's going to just like, you would think, I mean, the less the money stops for some reason, it's just going to keep getting better. Yep.

Holy. That's tough. Kevin C.A. 58950315. I think it's this phone number. Is there an explanation for why more pro caddies do not carry lighter bags or stand bags, especially for more difficult walks at courses like capilloua? Yes. That's that reason. They have a bunch of shit in there that they need.

Also the bigger reason. Also the sponsorship. You can have sponsors on other bags too, but I guess not in the front panel. It's a little harder, but I think it's more so like that. I mean, there's just a ton of stuff you need. You need to reign suit. Especially in a place like capilloua or chicken just pop up out of nowhere like that. I mean, there's just a ton of stuff you need. You need a rain suit. Especially in a place like Cavaloo or chicken just pop up out of nowhere, right? I mean, there's a bunch of... And Matt, Mattie told me,

Leachis Cady said that it's more, there's a lot of padding too. Like you get, you know, it's like, it's actually not as, it looks really bulky and uncomfortable. He's like, honestly, like when you have that heavy of a bag, the straps have so much padding, it's better. I would say it's more for the big bill boards that they sell for a lot of money to people to. Well, for sure. The ads, it's ad space for the players.

But they're not. Well, Ricky was doing the smaller bag for a while. A little bit. That's the exception to the rule. But there's not too many of them. I think if Caddy's went to them and said, like, I can't do this, I need a smaller bag. I think they would be fine with it. I think caddies don't do that because they have so much shit in there that they just need to be prepared for. J-P-G-S-B-C.

I need to pick the questions based on how easy the handles are to read. You should also pick the worst handle every week and give it an award. Like, I think Kevin's, Kevin C.A. gets it this way. That's just fucking bad, dude. With there only being 38 in the turn of champs this week and do the nature of the tournament, this would be about the norm each year.

Would you think in an idea to share the date with LPGA Tour and let them play their own turn of champs at the same time? I love this idea. See, I hate it. I would not want to watch that at all. I just can't happen. Can't happen. It's sacred.

The century tournament of Chavis is just too sacred. Why is there no ever mentioned or talk about the fact that the PGA tour and the LPGA tour have a strategic alliance? I don't know. The same way the European tour does. Meg Atkins was floating the same idea from the Friday this week and, or I guess today. And yeah, I was thinking the same thing.

I don't know what, like it is all, it's either publicly like lip service and privately, it seems like it was mostly just to negotiate the TV deal jointly, right? And which is a big deal. And I'm sure both parties were happy about that. But yeah, that really got my gears going. Having 60-some players, men and women mixed,

you could go alternating T times. I don't even think it's not even a, I mean, as far as joining smashing two tournaments together, I'm speaking on my ass here, but it seems like about the smallest lift you could have, right? I mean, it's the TV's already there. You can, there wouldn't be too many players. You can alternate. You don't even, you don't need to do some sort of like joint leaderboard.

It doesn't need to be anything crazy. Just, you're literally just running two both tournaments at the same time. I think that's how the Vic open started, right? Yep. What they do in that same thing in Australia, and it was awesome to watch. Yep. And just having like how cool would it have been, especially when it becomes such a two-horse race I think that's how the Vic open started, right? Were they doing that same thing in Australia? And it was awesome to watch. And just having like how cool would it have been, especially when it becomes such a two horse race today

between Cam Smith and John Rom, like having another entire tournament to cut to. On the same golf course would be epic. Playing the same holes, hitting the same shots, it would be phenomenal. I don't know why that idea hasn't been floated more in years past. It's just like kind of the first day day heard of it. It's great.

Separate tournament and scoring, but like a two-some and a two-some in the same group. You know, like the leaders for the women are playing with the leaders for them. I think that would be striking TV, especially with Molokai in the background. Sure. Come on. To Leppers running around. Come on. Shout out to St. Daniel. I was lying maybe a bit about hamster, Dan. Are they going to push the presents

cup this much all year long? I need you to put a pin in that. We can't ruin my favorite week of, you know, just kicking the beat. Am I ruining it? No, I don't know. No, I think you're, of course, totally right. And I think we can save that for...

It's like the scoring thing. Save that for later. Keep an Keep it on watch this space for further update. Just shoot it. It's bad. It's bad. It's not organic at all. It's just not and like it's not going to work. There's a lot of depth on that international team. There's not. There's not watch yourself. There's no space. There's not. So that's that's going to be a tough, tough scene if that is the case. So last one, we'll send it out on this WF Gunther. Can we get a breakdown of the push daddy match? That was a split, apparently, in California, in Randy for spoiling it. But yeah, well, yeah, I think they're having him on the trap draw

this week. So just say it was a split. That's it. You decide who won. Did Push beat Randy or did he beat Tron? There you go. Who can say? Who can say? I got a couple of things in my notebook. Got to empty the chain. Please empty.

One such a seemingly simple, massively additive change that I don't think we mentioned. The lower right graphic on golf channel that also shows where the player you're watching stands in the tournament. Halle, Luya, also. They started that in the fall. It's like now it's just naturally works in there.

It's perfect. As I mentioned, I was a conch agent of the Jack or Joe Fall. So first up, see you get this. And then second, the burger puts reading thing remains a disgrace. Take it out. And we need to go. Feel like you need to call that out as much as we can. That's, you see it? You got to call it out. You got to call it out as much as we can. That's, you see it, you gotta call it out.

You gotta call it out. That's, man, that in arm-lock putting is like, you guys wanna talk about what's bending the spirit of the rules here. Come on, this is pretty straightforward. I can't believe Burger can sleep at night with that. Like, it's just blatantly as loophole into the rule that, you know, he lines the put up, has a caddy line him up,

but you're fine if you reset, if you back off the putt, and then pick up the coin,, you know, he lines the put up, has a caddy line him up, but you can, you're fine. If you reset, if you back off the putt and then pick up the coin, then you're fine to start your, that's considered starting your process. It's gotta go. You know, as they say, if you don't like it, you need to call your congressman. Well, that's what we're trying to do. You gotta call your, you gotta call your congressman. This is a whole thing.

Well, USJ is a dictatorship. We don't, we don't vote for anybody in the USGA. We don't have a representation in the rules of golf. It's gross. Got anything to empty the chamber? I got one thing if you'll allow me. Please. Hadecki gets a pass annually for being the worst dresser on tour.

I do. On tour. Well, he's like, we just crank yellow for his Sunday thing. And it's like, now he wore some yellow on Friday or something like that. We don't talk about it enough. Just need to be pointed out. On that note, I want to say that a tradition I'm really liking, and I don't know if it's

truly a tradition, but I feel like the apparel companies. A low-ha Friday. Get, get, like, for three months to think of these Hawaiian shirts, and then they almost like overthink it so much that it starts clashing with hats and they got too many patterns going. I mean, some of those Friday outfits were, I mean, hilarious, a disgrace, like, you know, all of the above, but it's just like all this pent up, like, oh, go, we're gonna bring it on Hawaii and shirt Friday at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, for the Puma marketing team. Because I know that's their favorite week of the year. Our guy Ricky just hasn't been there for the activations.

For the last couple of years. That's difficult. Trivia, well two questions for you. How much did Jason Cokrek make this week? I know he finished last. You did. $70,000? Uh, I'll say $45, $101,000.

Oh my gosh. He's offered last place. For last place. Career earnings for Cam Smith. Prior to today. Prior to today. I think he want. Let's see what he won You won 1.5 so this put I will do including today then 1.5 today. Yeah, I'll say

PGA tour of course 17 million 14 million 19 17.4 something coming into today. Okay. Really good job. No, thank you I think that's a wrap and we will have an interview podcast coming up. Of course, as always, this coming Tuesday, you will see us back here next Sunday after the Sony Open. Tell those, oh, why you? Tell all those board H, I live at 555,

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