No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast Episode 52: Chris Chaney

Episode Date: September 7, 2016

Swing by Swing managing editor Chris Chaney joins the NLU Podcast to talk about the breaking Tiger news, Rory’s first PGA Tour win of the season, the upcoming Ryder Cup captain’s picks, as well as the Ryder... The post NLU Podcast Episode 52: Chris Chaney appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. That is better than most. Better than most! Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No-Lang Up Podcast. Another emergency edition. It's been a few weeks. I haven't even done a Ryder Cup podcast here. I did. I did want to on Shane Ryan's podcast last week, but I know you guys are probably ready for some Ryder Cup takes.

I'm ready for some Ryder Cup takes. I'm ready to talk about the big news that broke today Tiger Woods has officially announced his probable return at the Safeway Open Rory McAroy has won his first PJ Tour event of the season here with us to help break it down finally 52 episodes in We've talked about this for a long time Minging at her at swingby swing.com Chris Cheney you know him as wrong fairway at wrong underscore fairway on Twitter.

Chris, what's going on today, man? It's all good to be here. Are you as jacked up about the Tiger News as I am? I mean, first of all, I'm overstating how jacked up I am. We knew he was gonna come back. I thought he was gonna wait until the hero, but are people justified to be as excited as they are today?

I mean, I think so. I mean, this morning when I'm sitting there, I got Tiger on text alert for his Twitter on my phone. I'm such a fanboy. And I was sitting there. I think it was on the phone. My wife, Bangles, Gear, for the opener on Sunday.

She had me on FaceTime looking at Bangles stuff. And I got a text and almost kind of just like jumped out of my chair and started running around in circles hung up on her own accident It was just full fanboy. That was not on accident. You could be honest here. This is a safe place Well, I need I will I need the people needing to know what I thought So I got on Twitter and sent something ridiculous like tigers back or something that was completely meaningless Well, no, yeah, you I think you were you and I were the only ones to tweet anything in anywhere close to that. So I think that it was well worth hanging up on your wife's floor.

I would say. She understands. Yeah. If she knew what was related to the big catch, she would have to, and she knows who she's married to, then I think that's exactly what she signed up for. So no, Mrs. Cheney, sorry, I don't feel bad for you in this scenario. Are we, I mean, what are we expecting from Tiger when he comes back? Again, he said he hopes to return Safeway October 13th. I don't like to talk too much Tiger, but I think, I mean, we've waited over a year

for this. I think it's a very fair game to start talking about it. So are you, do you see this as kind of a, look, I'm going to play a little bit, go a bit in the off season. He knows he's going to get a ton of attention on it, but this as kind of a look? I'm gonna play a little bit in the off season. He knows he's gonna get a ton of attention on it, but is this kind of employee to keep his sponsors happy to make it look like he's working towards a comeback? Or do you think he's really ready to? I'm not gonna say when, but I'm gonna say like at least be competitive and make cuts at professional golf tournaments again. I mean, do you remember Augusta?

We were on like Beat It Breath, we didn't if he was going to play in Augusta in April. But there was even rumors out there that he was considering it then, makes you think this is the safe play and he should be at least somewhat capable of putting something together. But after kind of that initial, you're kind of going crazy, running around circles in your living room, you kind of think like when was the last time we saw Tiger, it's the wind him from last year, and then what happened before that was like he was blasting people in Phoenix from the bunker, and it's kind of like it's almost like a little reality check like we get the Tiger Tuesdays from SARS and we get your little your thing on 15 from Augusto where he's he's hitting balls to three feet for eagle, and then you realize that's not the tiger we left

And it's kind of just like what are we gonna get? It's it's scary as a tiger fan But it's really exciting just to kind of have him back and at least You have something new to kind of think about instead of worrying about him showing up at Sam's career day See for me the wind him like restored a lot right because I mean like I don't know about you in 2010 the wind him like restored a lot right because I mean like I don't know about you in Twenty-ten twenty-one when he went through that horrible spell. I had written him off I was done with him like he's never gonna be the same again blah blah blah and He came back in twelve and thirteen and had excellent seasons I think was player of the year one of those years at one eight times

Etc. And I vowed to never count him out again and I never panicked in 2014 I just said, you know, you know, he'll snap out of it snap out of it. He never really did. And then 2015, he played well at the Masters and that was pretty much it until he was tied for the lead going into the final round of the window last year. And that was to me kind of like my moment again to be like, don't ever ever ever count this guy out. But part of me thinks and I don't have the, don't know obviously I'm not Hanging out with Tiger playing Call of Duty with them But I don't I just get the impression from what I've been reading and and people close to him I just don't think he's working that hard. Do you think that's a fair statement to make?

I think it's a An evolution forum. I think it's been kind of talked about a lot you hear His boy know to talking about you have a evolution of him as a father and as an ex-husband, whatever you want to call it. It's just the evolution of his life is taken on a different path and he kind of came out thinking it would. I mean, like you mentioned, the wind him, he hits that flop shot and holds it. It's just like, there's vintage tiger he's back

and we're always, I think we're always gonna have those glimpses every once in a while, just because he's tiger and he's just supremely talented and better than pretty much anybody else who's picked up a club in the last 20 years. So we're gonna get glimpses from him. It's just a matter of if he can hold it together. That's the whole thing. When he was kind of teasing us a little bit, he couldn't put four rounds together. He couldn't play on the weekends at majors. He couldn't chip a ball. And then it's just a matter of does he work that hard? Probably not as much as he was because he's not a singular focus anywhere. He has his

bouquets that by all accounts, he's one of the best fathers in the world to do that in his studies. So he's fathered a year every year, tiger, and then he's chipping in his backyard and he falls over and he has to have his daughter come out and call for help because he's paralyzed on the ground or whatever. So I think the notion that he's not working as hard is probably a fair one and an understandable one, but it doesn't mean I don't think that we're not going to get the glimpses of tiger even with the weeks of great vintage tiger. I don't think the eight wins, the ten wins seasons are ever going to come back, which is not necessarily

surprising. I don't think anybody thought he could hold that standard for the rest of his life. It's just, I mean, sports. It just doesn't work that way. But that we're not completely right on the off, I think, is a little premature, just knowing kind of what he showed us in the past. But to be cautiously optimistic, I don't think it's too far off base. I want to clarify my statement here about saying that I think he can at least come back is I think his absolute highest ceiling is what we saw in 2012, 2013, right? I mean the free swinging tiger of the early 2000s and even late 90s like even into the late 2000s is not ever coming back. It's a completely different golf swing. He can't, his body is not capable of swinging it the way he did there. But the way he retooled

a swing under Foley and was still able to be successful under a swing that I think really, really limited him. I just think that the fact that he's shown his ability to do it with so many different swings makes me think that I don't want to ever fully count them out. The thing that was just so scary the year last year was how bad his bad shots were. Like the shots you don't see any professional golfers hit. Blading the ball over the place. Chunking shots at the hero. I think that was in 2014. And then topping three woods at the US open. I mean, that was just so, I believe, we'd bad that you just wonder. He just has to be, I mean, when I take time off golf, I maybe will hit one top three wood every three months. But my name's not Tyker Woods. So I just think that, you know, he's

lowered the ceiling so high. I'm not really out that he can get there. Obviously, the deck is kind of stacked against him. But I mean, it's going to, it's going to be interesting to watch. It definitely is. If even if he's around making cuts, that is infinitely more exciting than him being on the sidelines. Would you agree? Oh, I think without a belt. Yeah. We're talking about 2013. He won five times, played 16 tournaments that year. It's ridiculous. Even that, it's like five times, it's like whatever Tiger, what do you want, like what, seven or even a row at one point in his career

uh... but you think about this i mean it's tiger was and then it's he's never gonna do that to the then like you said the the early around the center of the century kind of stuff he's not going to be swing he had these ridiculous cut swings that are not necessary when you hit on the

first place his body just little to can't handle it i mean i don't think we're in it get a different tiger. I think it's kind of the evolution we were hoping for tiger. Post-scandal was more of a guy who's a little under control who's going to use his skill and experience to kind of plot his way around a golf course as opposed to just overpowering it, just by virtue of there's people who can hit it further than him. But no one out thinks Tiger, and that was his whole thing. That's one of the things that we always wondered when he was coming back. Is mental state available, or is he able to use what he knows

around Augusta? Obviously it's shown how he can do that in just other places. He can use his experience to make up for the shortcomings that come with age. Injury and all the other stuff, I think it's just a matter of we need to be as fans and kind of people who love the game. We need to lower our expectations just because when somebody leaves for a while you don't think about kind of Jordan on the wizards with the exesnet, but you think about maybe, if you think of Jordan on the wizards, you think of that two-hand blocky head off of them. We just picked it off.

That's the only thing you remember from that. You don't remember Henkond, just like sitting out of the bench with Gerald Henderson or something like that, or Richard Riv Hamilton. But I will say, I think, I hope at Jordan with the Wizards is a realistic like I actually made this that that point like back in 20 for whenever he had his last comeback whatever it was people people don't remember how good Jordan was with that with the Wizards like in age 39 and 40 like when he was 40

he played 82 games and average like 20 a game or something like ridiculous like that so I think I know that that was your overall played 82 games and average like 20 a game or something like ridiculous like that So I think I know that's that wasn't your overall point But if we get like Jordan with the Wizards out of tiger, I'll be pretty happy with that I think like you know competing here and there and still being a top player in the game despite being over age I mean golf is a game where you can play like Phil's gonna turn 50 in about three years or so and he's you know Still putting up one of the best five potential major performances of all time this year.

Like, the life of a golfer is very long. I know he's got a lot of health issues to make us think that it'll be different for him, but I mean, who's to say he won't be healthy in six years from now and still playing well? I don't know. I just think that there's so much time left still. There's a lot of scar tissue there literally and figuratively, but yeah, I mean, it's gonna be, we're gonna do the whole circus again. We're gonna be live tweeting this practice rounds

and when he gets to two under, we're gonna freak out and when he boggies two and a rebel freak out. So it'll be fun. Yeah, cameras up parking spots, all that other good stuff. What I didn't understand was people saying today, like a few people saying like, oh, look, I'm sure announced this now, an overshadow of the Ryder Cup was like, okay, would you rather have waited closer to the Ryder Cup or right after when he's got like

10 days before he needs to be there? I don't understand people criticizing the timing of the announcement. Yeah, the question becomes now, does he play in the Ryder Cup Captains Challenge? See if we can get some stuff from him there. But I mean, the thought that he's overshadowing the Ryder Cup is absolutely ridiculous. I mean, they make the picks next Monday, that'll kind of restart the whole Ryder Cup cycle. This is kind of a perfect timing.

So what do you overshadow as the first round of the BNW tomorrow? It's a Thursday. It's a Thursday start to a tournament. That's the same right as the NFL kicks off. If anybody's paying a catch in the golf, as is, that's a blessing for the PGA court. Who's going to write the column that the headline like, you thought Jim Fierrick was going to be the captain's pick? Are the assistant captain that was going to be the captain's pick. Are the assistant captain that was gonna be the captain's pick? Now a new candidate emerges. My column.

Tiger Woods for Captain. You were right. Yeah, I already started it. Yeah, so. All right, I think we'll talk a little bit about Tiger with the Ryder Cup in a second, but I want to first also debrief huge week. Jeez.

Monday, Deutsche Big Championship, Roy McAuroy, Final Round, 65, I believe, 600 parvers, first win of the season. Of course, he's putted like he's on the deck of the Titanic the entire season. Ryder Cup month rolls along, three weeks out, and he catches fire with a new putter, and the US teams now do him begin. We'll talk about Ryder Cup in a second, but I mean, wouldn't it be kind of ironic, or I don't know if ironic is the right word, but if this is the year that Rory finally wins the FedEx Cup when it's not been his best season and he's had some incredible seasons where it's kind of got taken from him at the tour championship. I know people don't really care about them. Who is the FedEx Cup champion, but I couldn't help but think like, wow, could this be the year that Rory comes out of nowhere to win this thing and when it would look like it was the season that was not lost by any means, but I definitely one of his, the way he looks at it with zero wins, one

of the weaker seasons. So what, do you have any big major takeaways from seeing Rory come back and run Paul Casey down on the final day? Yeah, I mean, if it wasn't for Tiger, I'd be the biggest Rory fan. I just think he's his best is so good. And you and I saw it up close up Memorial earlier this year, just watching him the effortless power he puts to the ball. And then if it's always, the putting with him,

he's always, he's been a streaky putter, and it works and he wins. But it seems like now he's got with Phil Kenyon, there's a putting coach. It seems like they, I don't know if it's something that's a harminger for what's to come, but it's obviously new putting coach. It seems like they, I don't know if it's something that's a harminger for what's to come But it's obviously a good start But just Rory is he's just so talented. It's amazing. That's kind of what you keep hearing about

He has a new putting coach. He puts it all and it clicks one week right away And he's he comes out and says he's trying to get this figured out by Augusta next year. He wins three days later So but I mean just him him hitting that Almost hole in out for for Albatross on Sunday, and then just coming after Casey from Sixth Bag, I mean, by the time he made the turn, he was tied for the lead with little help from Casey, obviously, but still he picked up six shots,

or four shot, five shots, whatever it was by that time. So, I mean, of course, course like you said it happens just right now in the middle of in the middle of Ryder Cup lead-up season and then he wins like you said another tournament here either this week or in two weeks at Atlanta and he's got ten more ten million more bucks to throw towards that wedding. Secret wedding we never hear anything about this relationship anymore I wonder if that's by design, but I think you mentioned it when you said that we saw it up close and personal at the memorial this year, and I think I've him. I forget what he shot that day. I think it was 68 or 67. Did it without really being able to even put that day. And he didn't even look that pleased with the way he was hitting the ball. I've never really seen somebody just be in that much control.

He didn't hit that high. The ball just had this soft little draw to it. He had a drive off 17. I'm not sure it's on camera just the club twirl he threw it that ball and it went like 380 yards or something. I don't know, I just became mesmerized. He stood out the most between JT, Speed and him that day I think to both of us. I don't know, I feel like I kind of lost faith in them there for a while. I just kind of wondered when we would really see him come back. I know his 2014 year, he had like a really fluky good wedge year. And I just kind of thought like, did we see like a way better side of him than we're ever going to see again? But I mean, did this win change any of your thoughts on him?

Or were just kind of like, all right, now finally he's back. It's almost like you think he's going to turn into a stenson type, but like, I mean, I'm more talented stenson if he was, like he said, he hits the ball, soap your and so far and so straight. It's unbelievable. And if he just, like, stenson, that tune, if you put it together on the greens for a day or two, even,

you can overcome, even I think stenson had two days at Trunen where he was Negative Stroke's game putting and he but then he goes out and goes unconscious on Sunday and Just crushes Phil's soul and I mean, I think Rory can do that just because he out he outboss strikes people So often if he gets anything a stroke a day on the greens and he's it's like Hadekimatsu Yamato and Sarson when he talks about if If Hadek he can ever put once, one week for four days or even two days out of four, he's gonna lap field just because he hits it so well, but Rory I think is the total package and obviously when he gets hot he gets super hot and he's not scared to kind of go

low like fear or glow, your boy. Make a transition there, I think. I think one other note, I'm trying to find a tweet that I saw on it. I don't remember what it was, but Jason Day has given up shots to the field off the tee in each of the last two events. I think it's unfair if I was like, are we calling the end

of the Jason Day era? I think it was only natural for him to come down from the whatever, seven, eight months stretch that he had that was just out of this world. But do we, I guess his season gonna be, we're more concerned about American and European players at this point, this being a Ryder Cup year, and then it'll be only two events left in the year.

But is that cause for concern in your opinion, anything that you're seeing out of Jason Day lately? No, I mean I think those kind of hoarder who put up the stat about his stroke scheme putting that he's a second, the guy second is stroke scheme putting closer to whoever was in 25th in the artichoke's indictment. Which is, I mean, and that's kind of the spieth thing. I know you're a big truth or on, well, well obviously it's true, so that he's not nearly the poor ball striker that people like to make him out to be, but the fact that he can kind of save some rounds or cobble together maybe something where he's not on with the

putter is kind of the great equalizer. And I know the stroke's gained kind of out the the truth of how important the long game is but they're still truth to a one hot round can save a poor ballstrike and round as long as the ballstrike can kind of comes back so I don't think it's anything to be too concerned about I don't think it's aware about Jason Day's switching teachers or anything like that obviously with this cold squatting and something their relationship so I don't know if he can kind of maintain that level. He had that, I mean, it was really a historic level

that he was on for the last couple months and it caught back the last year. So I don't know if that, how realistic it is to believe that he can maintain that, but to think that he can't get back to that level. At least semi-regularly I think is not, is not giving him the credit he deserves. There's somebody pointed at this out to me today.

I posted a mailbag with Radder Cup questions and I was leaning heavily on Strokes Gained to kind of help me fill in the remaining players on the US team. And then somebody pointed out to me and I can't even ever have thought of this, how many events throughout the year are not tracked on Strokes Gained, right? I mean, a lot of the fall series are not tracked in Stroke's Gain. A lot of the majors aren't. I think at least three of them, right? I don't know if Duke is the British open. I know the US opens not. Maybe they have PJ Tour has those stats but don't make them available. But I think I may have to completely

redo all my analysis because I was pushing hard for like guys like Bubba and Koocher who are up there in the top like eight in Stroke's game but forget that you're not looking at a complete data set and when you're looking at that but I mean, Dave's putting season that he's had. I mean, I think Kyle Portard pointed out as well. It's like the greatest putting season since Stroke's game became a stat, is that right? Yeah, I think so. I mean, it's not just how well he puts and he makes, he seems to make one of those 25,

30 footers, like once every nine holes. Yeah, and I just, but that's just caused me to wonder out and that's with any streak though, how long can something like that last? I mean, it can't, it can't be a true reflection of his putting ability. He very well may be the best putter in the game, but I mean, I think this is like his Tiger 2000 season of putting and ironically, I don't think Tiger's 2000 season was this good at putting. So I wonder if the if the if the you know weakened ball striking at this point in the season,

maybe he's just getting worn down from all the fatigue, all season long and all the illnesses and all the things that he's overcome. But oh, I think, you know, I don't know about you. It's the FedEx cup, even in non-writer cup years, kind of gets brushed under the rug. It's interesting. I mean, it's kind of fun to see. It just becomes kind of nauseating, it's not the right word, but just boring

how much the tour presses. Like, who's fall, who's sneaking in the top 70 this week? And I just don't really care about any of that. Especially like the fact that, you know, it seems to whoever's winning the, sneaking in the top 70 this week and I just I just don't really care about it and that especially like The fact that you know it seems to whoever's winning the right the the standings or leaving the standings usually the guy that wins the most recent playoff event But I mean is there anything that's happening in the playoffs right now that's changing your outlook on on the rider cup at this point I'm if it's changing my outlook, it's kind of boosting my confidence with our boy P.R. just killing it every week.

I mean, he T5 last week rather quietly coming off, especially for being, like you mentioned, I don't know if it's the PGA Tour isn't too keen on kind of pumping him up a little bit, just with kind of the decisive personality is. But he's leading the FedEx Cup, he comes in fifth last week. I mean, I know we got Rory kind of chasing somebody out, it's really intriguing and good TV by itself. But I mean, with Reed, I think Reed and Spieth I think is the biggest snowbraner, like

I don't, and everything all year this year. If Davis Love doesn't put them out first every time, doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, and then speed seems to be coming into form. I think that's...just, I think more with this year, especially a router cup, you're like you mentioned, the FedEx cup has a different kind of scouting, or maybe we pay more attention to who's kind of trending in the right direction. At this point, then we normally would discuss the FedEx cup.

Like you said, we've had our four majors. We had the Olympics this year. It just seems like there's so much stuff going on. We want a little bit of a little breather before we get to the Bret Thoreyder Cup. And we got at least, we got some compelling golf at least so far through the playoffs with Reed and Rory. And now we got speed kind of on the uptick You mentioned Jason Day kind of falling off, but no one gives a shit about him because he's Australia

But I think I think it's just it's just kind of given us more of an idea of a better as a Ryder Cup gets more It's a turn to no bigger event. We care more about it. The FedEx tough gives us another kind of little scouting session to To talk about picks to look at who's turning the right direction, and then kind of give us a better idea of what we should expect at Hazelty. Yeah, let me backtrack a bit on this because I'm pulling up days recent results, and his recent results are second at the PGA, tied for fourth at the Barclays, and tied for 15 at the Doige Bank. So, to say that I'm overblowing this would be quite

under understatement I think actually. So let me just withdraw everything. I just thought it was concerning that, I forget who I was following on Twitter that was pointing out that he was just hemorrhaging shots off the tee. He said that, he was talking about it after the round. He said he had six penalties or something like that.

He finished the eight under. So that take he had six penalties or something like that. He finished at eight under. So that take out those six penalties that he's or even half of those, he's in the Han, he's 14 under-roaries finishes at what, 15 or 16, he's right there. So I mean, there's definitely something to be said about how loose he was off the tee last week, but still it's not like he's hung and hanging on the cut line or something like that. I'll take it back and I predict that he's going to win the FedEx Cup. Go on FedEx. All right, so we're sitting here. It's September 7th.

Davis Love is going to make his first three captains picks next Monday, the 12th. If you were to guess who his three picks are going to be Monday at this point, what would you predict? I think Ricky's the only lock. I think he's just, I know people are worried about the task force and I think you guys kind of dispel the rumor of the task force. I just know a lot of the task force. Now it's a rider cup, um, midi or some shit like that. But it's not really, I think his involvement with the whole thing is, shouldn't't be overlooked. Also, he's showing some kind of form recently with how his fate at the Barclays is notwithstanding, but he's showing some form and he's right there on the cut. I mean, the bubble thing is interesting. I think obviously Hazel team sets up well for him I don't see I don't know if he's gonna hit the nod just kind of knowing what you said about

Cap and talk necessarily too high on him Not sure exactly where he fits with the exception of maybe Zach Johnson in terms of friends on the Radar Cup team and then Ricky if he makes it to Then you got your boy Fierrick down. I don't think I think Fier Ricky, if he makes it to, then you got your boy, Fiery, down there. I don't think, I think Fiery, if he doesn't get picked on Monday, he's on the outside looking, for sure, just says he kind of falls out of sight out of mind.

So to answer the question, I think it's Ricky. Don't want to disappoint Trump, but I think Couture's in. And I mean, it fits up to me. I'm looking at JV Holmes, Berger, Ryan Moore. And I think just given, given Holmes is kind of makeup for the Ryder Cup, obviously, we only have a small sample side of him, but I think he sets up well for Hazelty. And I think he's playing well at the right time to kind of keep the,

get this pick right now, if he shows out well this week, I think week I think for sure he's that third pick. Okay I think it's good thought for us as I'm with you on Fowler I think Fowler is a lot to be picked on Monday I think Couture is also a lot to be picked I predicted that the third pick on Monday will be Bubba. That was until I talked to somebody who said that like you just mentioned briefly and I wrote about this in the mail bag that the captions are not too high on Bubba and at least love and at least one assistant captain are big on JB Holmes, which I'm not following really at all. I'm not even close to understanding what JB Holmes gives you that Bubba doesn't.

I mean, but yeah, JB Holmes is really long off the tee. So is Bubba Watson and Bubba is a hell of a lot better approaching the green than JB Holmes is and He's better putt. I mean well putting is kind of a wash. They're both they're both losing strokes on the green and putting But I and maybe it's such such a big personality and that, and again, Bubba's three and eight in the Ryder Cup, I do understand that, but I'm just, I don't understand, JB Holmes is not playing well,

he's not had a great season, he is like 33rd amongst Americans in Strokes Gain for the entire season, I don't understand this at all, other than he played on a winning team in 2008, but I mean, what is JB give you that Baba doesn't? Can you help me out here? I mean, you mentioned I think Baba,

I mean, I don't see much difference, like in personality really, I mean, I don't know who JB kind of vibes with that. That's necessarily kind of, really makes more sense than Baba. I know Baba has his little clicks of people and stuff like that, but who, I mean, JB, he just, he's never seems like he's like anywhere with anybody.

I mean, obviously we don't know anything about him as far as kind of his real life and all that other stuff. But I mean, if I think Kuture and Fowler make sense for chemistry, form reasons, Kuture more than Fowler in terms of form, but just Fowler just, as, I mean, let's face it, it's a TV event, he's a draw. Couture makes sense from a teammate standpoint,

you can put him with anybody. He might lack pop, but he finds fairways, makes pots with that weird putter grip he has. And so I mean, if they're up to me, if I just had my druthers, I mean, I'd go Fow go foul or culture and then just go off the board go somewhere like a love burger I just think he's an OG I think he's just money all the time vibe and Brian Moore is interesting for me but he's the same deal as J.V. Holmes he's kind of like an unknown as far as personality fits and that kind

of stuff to kind of the cult golf fan. So obviously these guys, Davis Love, Stricker, Fury, and an entire have a better idea for these guys, I don't know why, if we're gonna actually change the whole situation around the US Ryder Cup team, why not just shake it up completely? And I think the problem with that whole line of thinking is Davis love and

Fierrick and striker they have friends out here and realistically this is one week out of the year if they're lies and talking about it in an important week but you don't want to alienate a friendship like kind of Clark was playing out before he picked his boy Westwood so I mean I think the idea is great to kind of shake everything up, but the actual doing of what they say is probably not going to happen. What you just said is I think carries a lot more weight than I've realized in the past and not a great pair of the health, but like if I'm picking, let's say we put 12 guys together, say I know eight people really well and we want to pick six on 16s like for a golf match. Chances are I'm going to lean towards a buddy than a guy that I don't know that well.

That's just how it goes. This is somebody that you've built up in your head that you may trust more in a situation than it's deemed worthy. But like for guys like Moore, and for maybe the lesser say Woodland, guys that have been around for a while and have had good seasons, but not really breakout seasons, I just have a hard time seeing love go that deep

when those guys aren't sticking out enough. I feel like to pick a guy that hasn't been there before, the guys got to really stick out and have something that you're missing from that team. And the ironic thing is, with all this talk of task force, all this new blood, all this stuff, there's a very good chance we end up with exactly one rookie on the team, that's Brooks Keppka,

who a guy should have been on the president's cup team last year, could have even deserved a consideration for, to be on the Ryder Cup team in 2014, and should have experienced in this, but doesn't. That's a separate argument. But we're going to end up with all these same guys that, especially if you're at Get's Pick, all these same guys have been all these losing teams. And it's like, we're going to look back and say, what was the point of all this task force?

But I mean, I have that burger woodland, more group. I mean, wait, it sounds like you're going DB straight vibe and I'm one boy with that. I locked in him as one of my picks, which I did that erroneously when he was leading the Deutsche Bank Championship and of course he faded outside like the top 40 after I said that. But I was aware that that could happen. I'm still sticking with that. I think he pissed the mold of a young guy that they need to add to the team.

But is there anyone else you're willing to go off the board and pick at this point? And to certain extent I'm not locking in all my picks until I absolutely have to. Our opinions could change by next week, but as of this as of this moment, is there anyone else that's like sticking out at you? I mean if you want me to get super off the board, I was out playing some golf here in Cincinnati a couple of weeks ago. Brett Wetterick, say it. Two groups ahead of me. Yes. You're boy. Your boy was out there some golf here in Cincinnati a couple weeks ago. Brett wetter. Say it. Two groups ahead of me. Yes. Your boy was out there just bombin' it. I knew as soon as you said Cincinnati, who is gonna be? Oh yeah, me and Brett play out of the same club, man. This is West Side till I die since an addy. And I always take exception with you. Just slamming my

guy. But seriously, I mean, just looking down the list, there's something to be said for Nah, I think a little bit just out of a playability or play withability thing for the opponents, but I mean, honestly, I couldn't kind of rationalize doing that. Duffner, love the guy, but I don't see it. I mean, you get to Burger at 16 on the point list right now.

I mean, he makes the most sense is it just a viable reach. And like we mentioned that friendship element, which I think is, you mentioned too, it's a little bit underplayed. I think it's going to be a huge factor, a safety net factor. And I think Jake Nichols kind of mentioned these picks while they're interesting and fun kind of debate water cooler fodder they really don't have too much of a actual impact on who's going to win or not it's like a 5% variance between all these guys obviously

given how good all of them are. So I think if like you mentioned we have Brooks is the lone rookie. Why not kind of put out a feeler for some of these younger guys. I don't know if JT, as much as they both love, I don't know if he kind of has played to deserve that kind of look. But I mean, if we're going to not take all this kind of this talk and actually put it into practice, why not kind of look at some of these guys like a burger or a JT or a nod or just some fresh blood a little bit. kind of look at some of these guys like a burger or a JT or a nod or just some fresh blood a little bit. I mean I think that's all wishful thinking. I think we all know kind of where

this is going. This is going kind of chalky old guy friendship, circle of trust kind of stuff. Yeah. One of the guys I talked to, the comedy gave me was like, you know, I think if it was up to me, The comedy gave me was like, you know, I Think if it was up to me got I like burger a lot, but he's not one of the boys And I was like wow, I just kind of funny to hear to hear that be that be said like how much you know People are aware of this like click that does matter when it comes time to make picks, but I mean if you think about it though what three weeks ago four weeks ago in Rio The four Americans were down there and read was planned by himself outside of that three so

and he was eight of the time we were to they're talking about maybe he's not one of the boys and if he doesn't get in on uh... kind of automatically cation he's not necessarily a lock and then obviously he's he's acted up in the last few weeks but uh... a couple weeks ago that, that was a real concern in reading. I would have, so first of all, if that would have happened, he would have announced

a citizenship, and I would have as well. I would be draped in a European flag, rooting for Team Europe, if he was not selected as a captain's pick. I heard some that chatter as well. I think there should never have been more of a lock in the history of the Radar Cup captain's picks than Patrick Reed would have been for that spot. Again, the point system is so silly and arbitrary. We're talking about a guy that showed out the President's Cup, showed that only you got it. It was the MVP of that team in 2014, the

exact fresh blood we needed. It would have been absolutely ass-n-eyed if he didn't get a cap and pick. So yes, I would have been I would have started a revolution I would have I would have hopefully he just I don't know if you go start playing for the internationals in the in In presidents cup or we just started his own country. I don't know what he would have done But he would have announced the citizenship hopefully, but I think this is the part where I think Everyone is waiting for me to make the case for JT, and I talked about again the mailbag, and I'm going to recycle some things from the mailbag. So just, I don't care if you're annoyed by that.

I think if it was up to me, short of him winning one of these last two events, and I know it shouldn't be that short-sighted, but I think that that kind of confidence could really, you know, as cheesy as it sounds, like light a fire under him, and it could really have an impact on the team. Outside of a win in this final two events, he would not be a captain's pick for me. I just, I still think he needs to be included in the conversation because of how much

Davis Love has talked about him in press conferences and how much he's been on his radar. He in Love do have a relationship and I know that love really does actually want to pick him. He does want to pick him and he's kind of waiting, he needs it to be justified at this point. And if he finishes with two top fives or shows signs in these last two events and no one else really steps up, there is still that chance that he gets that final pick.

Maybe goes out once or twice in four ball. I'm not guessing he's gonna go out three times. I'm not guessing he's gonna go out in four sums. And again, it kind of just fits that. It wouldn't make a ton of sense if you're looking at the numbers and he's not really played well enough this year, I don't think to justify this spot. But those factors that I just mentioned, I think it still could happen do you think I'm

too far outside the box with that? No I mean if we're going to kind of say the horseshoe rules in effect for horseshoe obviously so he's he's kind of the same but I think he tweeted something out earlier this week that sure to him winning a tournament he doesn't really feel that he may have earned his way on the team I think if you caught J.C. and then on his tournament he'd say the same thing. Obviously both of them want to get on the team, play for America. That kind of stuff, just a patriotism fact. And I think Thomas, he kind of spoke to it last year. I mean, people asked him if he would rather be on a winning Ryder Cup team or win a major.

And it's one of those stupid hypotheticals but given his background, his dad being a PGA of America pro, kind of his involvement around the Ryder Cup growing up, it's just something that's special to him. I think that's maybe that's not as important as I kind of want to make it out to be, but I think the kind of the one two is a, is like a real thing and I think if, I mean, do you want to take a stoppercy or William McGurk do you trust I mean do you trust those guys to play better than you do trust in Thomas Not really like and honestly not at all really so why not I mean if we're gonna give all this now service To to this new blood. Why don't we I'm fine taking a foul in a culture

I think that's kind of just a Ford on conclusion at this point. These guys are their old faces that you know that are recognizable with the exception of books. Like you mentioned, why not kind of just go deeper. They don't have to play all these sessions. They can play two or three times and maybe they maybe catch lightning in a bottle with them. Maybe they put maybe put burger with with Fowler or with Speed. They're one of those guys from that he came up with. I think Burger and Capcom would be a fun pair. And I think that would be really cool to see. And just why not? If you're going 11 and 12, why not just make a little reach as far as JT?

I think I'm with you. I don't know if he, if, like you're saying, it's true, like love wants to pick him. JT has to give him a recent pick him. Yeah. So it's kind of, kind of put up or shut up time for him. I think it's not necessarily anything. That's a, to kind of not him, it's just a factor

of how he's played this year, what's, who else is in front of him? And he needs to do something to kind of rationalize it, that make that love can rationalize it by thickening. Yeah, just back up one of the things you said, Tron is actually indicated, and I don't know the story of this at all, but DB Straight Vibon and BK apparently don't get along. I don't know what the story is.

I don't know what the story is there. It's a heart. I would imagine that also would factor in if I don't know how severe that relates to that story is or whatnot, but I would imagine that may factor in as well. If there's two guys with a known conflict, although I know that we have two guys already that are automatically qualified for this team, that have a known conflict. I'm sure you can't figure that one out, but...

They both have beards that kind of yearly look similar and Major champions I think as well this year. So this year. Yeah So yeah, of course we're talking about Danny Willett and Henry Sensen, but anyway There's European Eskimo brothers If you haven't if you like unsubscribed in this podcast if you haven't figured this out yet By the way, so subtle. Of the eight guys that are automatic qualified for the US team, are there any guys you would like to see ejected from the team? Totally, I'm not setting you up for anything on this question.

I know you want me to say Zach Johnson and I agree, but I also, I'm not in love with Branch Sattaker at the moment, but yeah, it would be those last two guys on the team, it would be Settaker and Johnson. ZJ for reasons you've very verbosely and drawn out completely with kind of the his only reason for being on the team, it comes from a tournament from last July. Obviously that's it doesn't make any sense. I'm wondering if we're going to be talking in two more years of Tiger's going to be screwed over by not getting his his point from the safely classic when he racks up next month. But I mean ZJ for obvious reasons I don't think he obviously I don't think he fits the course well. His form's middleing.

Snutterkers kind of fall off of late, but obviously he earned his well-entined both of them. Um, if that's what they need to do in the system as it's set now. So those will be the two. Jimmy Walker will be the other one, but I mean, you can't argue with a PGA championship just under a month ago. So, but before that, what is he done? So, I mean, it's one week. If you get taught for one week in the beginning of October, great. Love Jimmy Walker, and sure Dustin will too. Thanks for what we're just talking about as well with some of those young guys not being informed it's easy to look look back and forget how bad Patrick Reads form was going into a 2014

Ryder Cup, you know, and like it really, the form can change so fast and it really is just even with a guy that doesn't have good stats but leading up into it. And I don't I don't I think it's too much as made out of. And I say it sometimes too, like the word fire and passion and that stuff, but certain guys, it just matters to more. And again, that's a cheesy cliche that, like, I hate that in football, like, oh, he just wanted it more than

the other guy. But I do think there is something to that when it comes to this event, the guys that really thrive in this kind of environment and I don't know, have you ever, like, again, horrible comparisons, but have you ever played like Team Golf, even if like, you know, like a weekend, writer cup event or something? How much fun is that and how much more competitive and more seriously do you take it, you know, when you got a teammate and you have a partner, I think that I just think that there is something to it. And overall, I think your best stroke play players are going to be your best match play players outside of Furek. But with that being said, I didn't even have a question with all that, but I'm

transitioning it into this. Do you think we're safe from Furek at this point? I want to think, yes, just because he floundered recently and didn't get into this week's tournament, I think, just the overwhelming kind of the push for it to be on was kind of predicated upon the fact that he would have at least played up to the Point where he makes the picks and the fact that he kind of just fell short fell on his face last week really Knowing he needed a good showing Wasn't I mean I think was the death now for him, but it should be. I mean, he's a captain's pick. We've all know how terrible he is, record wise.

There's the experience factor. But then what, I mean, I think you guys are talking about this on on your earlier podcast. What experience do you want? Do you want the experience of a guy who sucks in the rider cup? I mean, obviously, he had that press conference after the Phil versus Tom Watson thing where he said, if we would have figured this should out a long time ago, we would have been one better or something. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the guy cares.

I know I think we'll be a good captain, a good advice captain, all that other stuff. But he chokes, he chokes and rider cups, he doesn't play well. And I know there's the other side out there who says, there's no real good arbitrar power numbers as far as, maybe you got to play by somebody who shot a 64 that day. But they don't shoot 64 every time you go out. So win some, and then you'll have a better kind of argument at least for him. I think to answer the question, I think we're coming out of the woods

on the Jim Furek as a captain's fix thing, which could all just kind of go horribly horribly wrong on the mo. When he's already on the team, we don't have to worry about. Because there's zero chance. Zero chance he gets picked with that fourth pick. There's no way they can save that pick for somebody who doesn't play in a month.

Yeah. It makes me upset with the people that were willing to put them on the team like after the travelers. Like, I know it shouldn't, but just this whole attitude of like, just just get over it, put them on the team, he's going to be on it. It's like, like, he didn't even play that badly over this last month to drop off of it. Like, that's how people were willing people were to give away a spot to him. And it's even guys that are friends with are like, well, now loves got his justification for putting him on a team. It's like, come on, I think, Davis, I've been pretty hard on love this whole process.

And he hasn't even made any of the specs yet. But I think he's capable of putting more thought into it through that. I honestly Can't make a case for him at all other than the fact that he's a Hall of Fame player and always gonna be one of the best golfers in the world I guess that it that part is a pretty good case But the fact that you played in nine of these and you have a losing record in eight of them meaning you have been a negative team member Eight out of nine times you've been on this I don't know how many times you have to fail before you stop doing that.

There's a reason we stop asking Scott for playing back on the team. And JJ Henry only played, well, these guys fail and then they're gone. All right, I know that comparing those two, their stroke play careers are much different. But, oh, it just makes me so frustrated. And if I'm still gonna revolve, I, part of me likes to think that I've had

an influence on this. And I'm only kind of kidding when I say that. But I think the just, Riley, people up at least a little bit and getting the chatter out there that people are sick of seeing this, I have to have an impact at least at some level. I'm really not literally saying that I've impacted the captain's picks But enough people agree agree out there the only people that were that were making like saying Oh, I think you should have a pick they would like toss in a joke at the end

Like I'm also European and I want to see them on the team chef Yeah, I mean there were there were a handful of people I think you kind of kind of push back Kensen and the thing that the bizarre thing about the whole thing is how they always point to the T2 at Oklahoma. It's the same deal with the Zack Johnson making the team. That T2 at Oklahoma was huge in getting fear in that conversation, and it doesn't necessarily kind of even project anywhere near what's going to be happening at the end of September beginning of October.

But it's just that whole argument. He's obviously one of the, I don't know, he's a Hall of Famer, right? He's going to, he's a great player, he's always going to be a great player. It's just a matter of, I mean, people don't play well at tournaments. Martin Kimer can't make the cut out of Gustav. It doesn't mean he's not a great player. It just means there's one event that he doesn't play well at tournaments. Martin Kimer can't make the cut out of Gustav. Doesn't mean he's not a career player. Just means there's one event that he doesn't play well in.

Jim Fierreck does not perform well in the Ryder Cup. It's just, I don't even know if it's an opinion of it's much as a fact. Fact. And you said it, and that's another thing that just frustrates the hell out of me. It's like people saying, yeah, T2 at the US Open in Chauda, 58. It's like, okay, you can't just, I guess there's ever an event, you can't just like cherry pick the good results.

Okay, Justin Thomas finished T3 at the players championship, and shot 62, the final round of that, of that travelers championship. Who is including that in their take for why Justin Thomas should be on this team? Nobody, not even me, the biggest Thomas home where you can find, so.

All right, let's move on a little bit from Fierrick and Picks. Let's talk pairings. First of all, do you get deep into pairings at all? Do you like to mix and match them? I mean, not especially. I mean, I think there's some obvious ones, and then it's just kind of like a check and see. I think obviously you got speed and read as the go to fill and anybody I think works And then I mean I don't I'm not to kind of like I don't go nuts with the exception of kind of what happened with Tom Watson

They could just common sense. It's not these guys are good and they I think you give them a little bit more of Here easy or talk about it constantly just everything he talks about is these guys going into team. They ran the team. It was their team. They took pride in it. Let them kind of tell you who they're comfortable playing with. And then let them go to the pod system just make sense. There's a reason why Europe has their pod system. They get guys from England, who play with guys from England. You get guys from Spain, who play with other guys from Spain. It just makes sense. Common. People you're comfortable with allow you to play with guys from England you get guys from Spain to play with other guys from Spain It just makes sense common people you're comfortable with allow you to play better golf and especially when the people you're playing with are

Good golfers. It's kind of the same deal as when you play with a shitty golfer You kind of play a little shitty or just because you're like watching this guy hacking around and that obviously isn't gonna Happen to ride a couple world-class players, but there is something to be said for being comfortable with who you're playing with. I think how something that's not the hard way, same thing with Tom Watson, just let these guys kind of give me a Patrick Reed on comfortable play with speed, on comfortable playing with setter, whatever it may be, just give you a couple guys and just kind of keep it simple. For some reason I get the feeling that speed doesn't like playing with read. Do you get that at all?

I love two years ago, it might have been the president's cup, but they're talking about Patrick and they're asking speed about things working their dynamic and it's I don't give a putts and I just, if someone looks at me, I look at Patrick and Patrick shakes his head to no, I say no, that's no good. There's something like that. But I think I think reeds like fire and intensity kind of rubs spief a little wrong kind of just outwardly. Obviously when they're kind of like in the mix and everything spiefs, spiefs super dialed in and super fired up about it as we saw. The last couple times they've been paired together and read coastal presence, but I just I think speech loves playing with read on the

course. I don't think he likes answering the questions about playing with read. Yeah. I have a new explain like how you can kind of like channel that maybe like interscombat kind of thing just because it's bad for the brand. Well he needs a kid. If there's ever event that they need a killer in state, I think it's this right. But yeah, I think I don't think I obviously think speed has it. I just think yeah, less comfortable kind of flaunting it than readers. If you're at I'll say let's say the four sums of the I'm going I'm stealing this trade for my mailbag.

So I've already answered this. But if you've got if you're sending four sums out the first match on Friday morning, who are you pairing? Who's sitting who who what order are you going? have you thought it through that, to that level? If not, we're going to make you live do it on the area you guys. Okay. Well, I'm definitely setting out Jimmy Walker and Dustin Johnson first. Haha.

Now, I think, I think you got to start with speech and read every time. If they want to go out first, and I think he's, I think Reach talked about it this past week since his win. He likes to go out first. I think he's I think we talked about it this past week since his went he likes to go out first I said that tone I think those two are just I think that's why I think it was he was a morning driving something like if it's not broke don't fix it put me in man George now we'll we'll get some of men and we'll rather crowd up or all rather crowd up for everyone to set I think that works obviously I think kept up... can i can i pause you for a second just because

i i i put this to be in my back as well but said what uh... cop order tweeted something a quote that was asked like somebody read was asked what he has in store for the writer cup and he's like i can't say and like he has a surprise in store what is he gonna do what i i'm nervous i'm so excited i'm nervous what's he gonna do? I'm nervous. I'm so excited. I'm nervous. What's he gonna do? I think he's gonna release a lot of ball and eagle on the first tee. He's a Kessler or whatever. His caddy is gonna come from underneath those awesome grandstands I have on one and just maybe like how people do those that

they're wedding. They'll have like baby eagles. Just take flight. It'll be awesome. People go nuts and then until they go and Pick up some kind of like dog or something nearby He's gonna like he's gonna come out to an intro song, isn't he like he's gonna hope like a Hulk Hogan I'm a real American Multi just a marching band coming through out of the tunnel like how awesome with that He comes out like a major at taking one of his golf clubs throwing it out here Yeah, I have like a World War II or a Civil War reenactment drummer boy out in front of him or something.

Oh my god, he has something planned. I love it. He's got something. It's going to come out. All right, so that's your first pairing. Who's two? Um, yeah, I have no idea. Um, DJ and Phil.

Okay. Just because I know they play those Tuesday games occasionally and I don't think we're talking for some here. I mean there's something to be said for apparently exact Johnson with a Kebka or a probably exact Johnson Jimmy Walker, but they just make sense on their faces just a guy who is a far guy who supposedly wedges it well or at least he did last year at San Andres. supposedly wedges it well or at least he did last year at St. Andrews. So I think walkers, Johnson, Phil, DJ, Speed Read, not kind of just what not least Brooks and Snets. I mean I'm not in love with that one but I think Brooks gets paired with a fowler assuming there's no other kind of a conflict there.

Some stripes with Florida State, cleat chasers and we're good. I just completely projected that I have no idea what Tron is talking about, but I don't think it knows they want the Florida State. I'm assuming it has something to do with that as well, that's fair. But I think I'm looking at guys that I don't want playing four ball. And so I penciled in sneds and ZJ together. They played together, I think, once in 2012. And one, if I remember right, I could be, no, you know, I know they did play together in 2012. Anyways, ZJ went 2 and 0 at Medina, and I'm cherry picking that

stat and ignoring the two away. Radica teams we played on where he didn't fare so well in Forbosom's but I think if you got those two on the team you're probably sending them out there in Forbosom's and not Forbol and you're letting your bombers and your your birdie guys go out in Forbol. Maybe I'm misinterpreting the strategy of that but I think you know in case they do take flyer on burger or anyone like that those final spots I think in case they do take flyer on burger or anyone like that, those final spots, I think they're sending them out for ball.

They're just more pressure, I think, that comes in for sums. If there's ever a time when experience pays off, it may be in for sums, I don't know. So I'm sending them out last, and I'm going to read speed first as well. Then I threw Kepkin DJ together. I think those are guys I want to rely on. Those are guys I want playing potentially four matches if they're playing well and I'm

planning on playing them three. And then Phil and Fowler, I think, makes a lot of sense to play together as well. They're paired together on Tuesdays a lot. And so that would leave like, Koocher, Bubba, and Walker, and men, whoever that final pick is gonna be, who am I leaving off here? I'm forgetting somebody. If I'm giving it to Kutcher, Bubba, Fowler,

oh, I guess I, okay, yeah, that final guy, whoever that final guy is gonna play in your four ball, I think. So, and it probably gonna be JB Holmes from what it sounds like. So, yeah, but again, my four I'm riding with for planning on, planning on at minimum three and if playing well four, read, speed, Keppka, DJ, Phil, I don't think wants to play four matches. I think he'll play three. I'm fine seeing him up there for three. And then those remaining five guys I'm filling in, remaining seven guys I'm filling in uh... remaining seven guys I'm filling in with uh... you know

playing the hot hands as it goes along and i think you got a ride your horses i think you might have to just be three fill a kind of fill a three guy and then also out of force and that's just because i mean i i know feel he cares all of the stuff but we really trust bill when you're playing alternate

shot with Phil and if he's going to be anywhere on the planet, he hit a ball like down the subdivision during the PGA, he hit it off the course and down the side street, like Terry McCordy's to try it down. And it's fun to watch and it's really enthralling. I don't know if I'm comfortable being the guy who has to hit Phil's second shot. I don't have his four-sums record in front of me, but I feel like he's played a lot, and that could be one of his weaknesses. He's got a not great team record at all in the Ryder Cup, so maybe I'm making a mistake counting men for four ball, but he's going to be boy stressing, he's going to want to he's going to want to play and he's he's surprised me. He's second on toy at tour this year in Strokescape Pudding. He is really potted his ass off this year. And the thing you remember most about the Pudding

mist was Vaughn Taylor at Pebble and it's just six footer hitting it up and down from off the front of the grain. Yeah. But he's potted his brain out every other week. I don't even think that counts. The British open in those strokes came stat. So last question I'll let you off on what if you could change anything I don't even think that counts. The British open in those most of the game stats. So last question, I'll let you off on. What if you could change anything about the current system? What would you change? Points qualifying number of picks, anything?

I think we, I mean, I have no problem with, I think we, you should either be completely, this is going to be completely off the map. So just, yeah. I have no real thought process I'm just going to talk it through. It should be 12 automatic qualifiers or 12, just take them if you want to do. Automatic qualifiers, if you make the team, you make the team, it's merit-based. This is a terrible take. I have no reason for this. Or just play like the good old boys

network. Have Davis love love pick his favorite guys. And I mean, you'll get the camaraderie. You might not get like the best hot as players, but there'll be some kind of pressure in terms of getting the players who are playing the best. So I think the point system or some kind of system will have to be kind of installed to have some kind of backup or rationalization thing.

But why not just simplify the point system and now don't at me for that. No one's left this thing, this is like a bad thing. I think... What's your... Well, at least I don't have a great answer other than I think, I actually would split your idea in half. I'd say six automatic and the six automatic should just be like a cinch.

There should be no debate on it. I think there's two guys on the team that I wouldn't have on my team that automatically qualified. I think I think love would have taken ZJ anyways. I don't think you would have taken sneds. I just don't think the captain should be your consistency at beating your peers, right? And, you know, having a pretty mediocre season and then winning a major gets you three, basically three times as many points. It just doesn't, that's not the best system for qualification if you ask me. And I just don't think it identifies the best players. So I'd rather be, I'd be six automatic, that just like more of a stroke,

I don't know if strokes gained is the answer, because like I said, there's some terms that I don't even measure it, but something that shows that consistency over the course of a year, much better than points from the 2015 masters that was all like 18 months ago. So that's direction I would go.

I do like the transition they've made. I think they're stepping in the right direction with at least saving one of the picks off the tour championship Having four captains pits etc. So it's not it's not completely broken my mind, but I think it could be done better of course So I think there's I think it's same thing could be said for Europe too with their points list and other stuff How how Russell knocks that left off? I mean there's but then what else will we talk about and complain about for a year and a half, leading up to it? Yeah, and we basically bypassed talking to you in Europe. It's just fine. I'm fine.

Right. So we're flying the American flag here. Alright, Chris Cheney, kept you for an hour. Thank you so much for your time. Where can we find your stuff? Yeah, so swing by swing golf.swingbyswing.com. There's a little site I run and on Twitter at wrong underscore fairway. We know where to find you and we will be, I'm sure you'll be tweeting alive storm during the writer cup and thanks for giving us an hour and we'll get it.

I'm expecting to see some some fire breathing from you as well when the picks actually do come through next week. So I won't look you down to the other. So next time, everybody. Give it a write club. Be the right club today! That's... Better than most. How about it?

That is better than most. Better than most! Expect anything different? Better than most!