No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 521: WM Phoenix Recap

Episode Date: February 14, 2022

Scottie Scheffler wins for the firs time on the PGA Tour, coming from behind on the back nine to defeat Patrick Cantlay in a three hole playoff to win the WM Phoenix Open on a memorable week in Scottsdale. We also salute the breakout performance of Sahith Theegala, the outstanding condition of the golf course, the beer showers at 16, and more. Then we take a deep dive into Charlie Hoffman's comments, Phil's blocking spree on twitter, and the latest rumors on the Saudi golf league. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. Get to be with you. T.C. is here. Hello, T.C. Hearing that Zach Taylor's offensive line is melting down as we speak. I think it melted down like week three. The fact that they're playing in this game as we're recording this. So we will not have any Super Bowl spoilers. Don't we try to catch the big guy? Listen, his Bengals are in the Super Bowl. We wanted to get his take some getting blocked by Phil Mikkelson on Twitter. One of like 80 things that happened this week.

I'll talk about getting blocked. You got blocked. I'm actually happy to to just got to. Okay. T.C. is on. You guys need me to relay anything. You guys need to stay unblocked so that you can report anything that happens. Gladly. Continues to be. T.C. continues to be our conduit to some of these these volatile personalities, the Justin Reads, Phil Vickelsons. We got to send in our hostage to go shader T.C. to really communicate with these, these folks. We have a lot of fun things to talk about today. I'm super excited to talk about range talk. Have you seen range talk yet?

I have seen range talk. Love range talk. Tell me about range talk. What is it? Our guy Roger Steele. I think we've been big admirers of Roger from far on Instagram. Callaway has kind of given him a full platform, given him access to some of their top people, Steph Curry.

I know it was in the first episode. I think Xander they did an episode. It sounds like there's a bunch more coming up with, I'm really looking forward to the Yucasa-01. But yeah, just kind of longer form conversations with some people out on the range. Hidden balls, very laid back conversation. It's something I think we've all kind of been looking for

out of golf. Everything's so quick and you're always looking for sound bites, all this stuff. It's nice to relax, get an actual conversation. Roger's really good at drawing fun stuff out of people. I love watching his golf swing also. He's got a lot of fun speed. He gets, he's natural. He's natural. Yeah. Well, it's great. Well, he's so good. I wasn't even looking at this. That was great. They don't need a script for it. This, this is awesome. Range talk is on the Cowboy Golf YouTube channel and on the Cowboy website. He's got a uncanny ability to get guys to just open up,

have fun and be themselves very, very quickly. From what I've gathered from behind the scenes, he didn't know a lot of these guys and then like you watch it and you're like, oh, how does he know? Steph Curry so well, that's all natural that happened that quickly. So check it out.

Ron is getting some run on the new Calaway commercial as well. He has a hand, Madeline, texture. That's right. Yeah, it's hitters only out there. It's it. He had his own. He had it. It's great. True hitters only. What a week at the waste, sorry, the WM Phoenix Open. Great rebranding.

Maybe the only negative downside of the week was rebranding it as the WM Phoenix Open. We're going to still call it the waste management. What was the highlight of the week for you guys? I think say at the gala, just on a macro level, watching him this whole week, completely swaggering his face off. How about having the biggest crowd on the PJ tour, completely wrapped around your finger as a 24-year-old rookie? That takes a very, very special player to do that. He, you know, maybe not flags it, but hits a really, really proper shot on 16 coming down the stretch with the lead. And the crowd is chanting his name and he's playing with Brooks and Scotty Sheffler. I mean, like two rider cup, sorry, Scot Sheffler.

He's graduated. Scotty's won. Scot Sheffler. Playing with like two hunters, right? And the crowd is chanting his name. I mean, it was just, I'm sure we'll go much deeper on it, but that was the highlight for me. Awesome. Awesome week. TC.

Scott Schuffler. Long time coming. I mean, I think I might be coming around with you finally, you know. That's big of you. How long you've been watching Scottie Schuffler in the 35th, 40 years? I mean, you know, he's, he's, he's got to be coming up on the, on the champion story of the soon. He finally gets off the snide after years and years, years of riding the bus.

It does feel like it, it felt like a long time coming. I feel like that's the go-to line whenever somebody wins. He's graduated really quickly from, you know, playing, I hate to do this, like playing the John Deers into playing like all the big boy events, right? Like he plays the a huge schedule and he had not had a win yet. And it's really hard to navigate those waters. We've seen that with Tony Fino, I believe, which we don't need to revisit necessarily.

But he's been top 50 in the world for two years now without a PGA tour win, right? Like that's, it's time. Yeah. And it happened. I mean, he made eight birdies today playing in the final group. I'm not, he's like one of my favorite players,

like one of the guys I root for the most. Not gonna, and I watched every shot today. It kind of snuck up on me that walking off 17 green was like oh my god. He like my win this tournament exactly. I think this was the kind of thing that he needed to win was to kind of sneak up on one instead of I've seen him so many times you know even on corn ferry. Be out front and then stumble on 18 or whatever you know maybe a little bit of fina. I know. Everyone smiled, the squirrel finds the... They had a five footer to win it in regulation too.

That's why I was gonna be... I was gonna be pretty gutted for him if, you know. Well, I was like, like, misreading the hell out of that putt. It was weird. I shove it. I looked like the Xander one looked pretty shoved. The one that went hard left right, but Cantlay's, I mean Xander's obviously had to go that way a little. It wasn't like, it wasn't all shoved. Like it did go left right, but can't lays. I mean, Sanders obviously had to go that way a little.

It wasn't like, it wasn't all-shelf. Like it did go left to right. But yeah, then can't lay, I don't know. I don't know, very easy to say from the couch, like, what the hell, man, didn't you see that? And who knows what they saw though? It was a little like, yo, I thought we just watched this, man. How did you, how'd you miss it that way?

Watching guys land shots on a fimble. Of course. All these spots, what the hell, man? How you shoving that putt? There was a little bit of that. I always go back to that meme of Tony's soprano or he's just sitting on the couch looking like the biggest slob.

And everyone's talking about watching football. It's like, fuck an idiot. There's a bit of that going on, certainly. But it didn't, neither looked like a good putt. I do want to say this about Scottie too, if we're jumpin'. Sorry, Scott. Let's go back to his hit, but please. Well, this will tie them together I didn't, neither looked like a good putt. I do wanna say this about Scottie too, if we're, if we're, terms is jumping. So I like, I'd like to go back to his hip, but please.

Well, this will tie them together, because I think we do this with JT, we do this with speed a lot, and this is to take nothing away from his to hip. Amazing week, gonna be like a massive talent. He's only like 18 months younger than Scott. Scottie is a force of nature and still so young. Yes.

And I actually do want to be careful over projecting first hit. Sure. It's a good time to say that. Yes. Sheffler's like, we're joking. That's a whole veteran thing because he looks like he's 45. But he's still very, very, very young. Sheffler is that dude.

Yes. You know, we want to do, we want to get excited about Togala, we want to get excited about Zalatoris all that. But like Sheffler is that dude. Like, you know, we want to do, uh, we want to get excited about Togala. We want to get excited about Zalator. So all that, but like, Sheffler is that guy. Yeah. He's way, way, way more consistent than, then, uh, Zalator is pretty damn consistent. But way more consistent than Togala has been. Now, I've picked him in so many draft kings and somehow, of course, didn't pick him this week.

I've picked Sheffler to win at least 12 times, I think, of course, didn't pick him this week. That's just how it goes. But it is good to see him get off the snide. He was second in stroke scheme, putting this week. He actually lost strokes approaching the green this week, which is kind of amazing, but he was three under through 36 holes in this tournament.

The cut was minus two, and he went and shot 62 on Saturday, 67 to finish at 16 under and win the playoffs. So, never give up. I think probably a testament to how awesome this golf course is for PJ Tworke Golf, right? Where it got to talk about that. It both played really firm. There was a lot said on the broadcast about that.

There was a lot said everywhere about how firm it was. But also, if you hit the shots, like there are so many birdies out there. And it's such a cool dividing line. I know that's just what you talk about all the time, but it was one of the better examples I can think of, you know, of all those things kind of coalescing together. And we get fucking Riviera next week too.

Because it's like, awesome. This is turning into like low key the best two weeks stretch of the year on the non-major side. Because what gets really frustrating is the golf courses that, all right, he drives it right down the middle of the fairway or drives it into the right rough. And it's kind of like, eh, it's a very marginal difference, right?

But the firmness just works backwards from there. And maybe it's just the familiarity that comes from TPC Scottsdale over the years, but you watch guys hit it in certain spots and you're like, like, just spend an hour watching it, be like, oh, he can't get to that pin from that side. Like, he's totally boned over there. And that just, your mind, your viewing mind, like starts working overdrive of like understanding the shot value that comes with each shot. And there's not just this, uh, whoever ends up, he can throw a wedge dart in there. And it's going

to stop right by the hole. Like you have to earn it. Every single shot has that shot value. And that just all goes back to the firmness. How do you, how do you get overseas to rye firm? Like it's all, that was going to be my question. Was this like a gradual transition, a conscious decision that they've made over the last Few years or is this I mean I can't imagine the weather's drastically Well, and it's all man you man made like it's all water like manually watered It's not rainwater that's it's drought like drowning the course or anything like that So I mean to be fucking amazing if like saw grass could play like saw grass should be playing like this for the players

But it won't because you've been soaking it for the last five months. Well, but they get, you know, I don't know if you guys heard this, but there's not much humidity out there, which we can discuss. We dry. We do have a lot of humidity here. So it's way harder to get it to dry out. But I don't know if that is a conscious and thing that they can control, please more of that. Because I mean, it was, it was fantastic watching all the slopes around the greens become active, where they put the pins and little bowls

and on top of shelves and things like that. It just, I don't know, it really shined through. I had a blast watching this golf tournament this weekend. I would say it's turning into the desert swing. You got the bone saw and then it was sorry, right? Back to back, you know? Plus throwing Abu Dhabi and Dubai in there. It's desert S.D. First of all, if we're going back to back, you know, plus throwing Abu Dhabi and Dubai in there. It's it's desert S.D.

First of all, if we're going back to Tagala, the wedge, he hits from 178 into the 16th. Everyone else was hitting 9-9 and it wasn't getting a bag there. He hits wedge. Guys pumped up. It's so deep. It's so deep and it's that little shelf back there. They had a great view of Keppga who went like long left, how hard that slopes off to the left, how difficult that shot is. The pins were awesome. Unbelievable. Yes.

There was, there were so such fine lines. And like that, I don't know how much, like Koso T's ace was absurd. Keith Mitchell's birdie back there, like it was really, really hard. I looked at the PGA tour shot tracker, Tracer thing that the media has access to. Like you can see where balls land.

Like these guys are hitting like nine irons and they're rolling out 15, 20 yards. It looks like on the tracker. And that's just, so if I'm to step up and hit that shot, people chant in his name. I don't know what happened after that because they went to commercial, of course, but it was a moment, man.

He almost made that putt and then stepped up on 17 and he was 16 under. He needs to hit a shot at some point to win the golf tournament, right? You're not going to, you know, you can get into a playoff at 16. It turns out in hindsight, but you got to step up and make a birdie at some point and went for it. I thought he hit the shot.

I thought it was a crazy unlucky bounce reminiscent of Ricky in 2016. It was, but it was, he took on the risk, executed it and it just got a horrific, horrific bounce that even think the bounce was that bad. It was just he took on the risk, executed it and it just got a horrific, horrific bounce that even think the bounce was that bad. It was just a commentary on the firmness. I think it went left. I was going to say the fact that the shot shape was going left to right. Yeah. The ball kicks straight left is, you know, not something you usually see. That downslope can do is a risk factor in it. We saw it with Ricky, right? He tried to hit a cut driver in 2016, a bunch. It hit that downslope open went 358 yards into the water along with the green.

It's horrific. Look. He's definitely got that left, that left miss that like overcooked. He did it on 15. He did, but this ball had this. I was cutting this ball had to cut on. He was like starting at the water. Yeah. And it was coming back. Yes. And just kicks straight left. So, but that is a factor of like, you can bail right and it's not going to do that. And that's what some people were saying, like, that's what makes seven, you know, it's made 17, not that great of a whole, I totally disagree. I totally disagree. It makes it awesome.

I totally disagree. That is a factor. And you got to decide how big your stones are. And in that pitch over from the right is so. Yes. Yes. Which is makes it even crazier that Brooks hold that last. But it's such a tremendous, tremendous golf hole to watch.

And that whole stretch is just awesome. And I respect him going for it. He's still kind of made par and that's where I think he, you know, going looking back was like, you got to get that ball up and down. So after going in the water and that's what he didn't do. Well, that's what's cool. You mentioned it in a good way that like eventually you got to, you got to hit the shot somewhere. And what's so freaking cool about that golf course is that you have a chance to do it at 15.

Can you make it 3 at 15? You gotta chance to do it at 16. Can you make it 2? And you gotta chance to do it at 17. Can you make it 2 or 3? And it just draws out the excitement so, so well. You can't take a pee break, so similar to sawgrass, right? I mean, I think people make that comp all the time,

but I think it's with good reason, especially if it's playing firm like that. It has more teeth and God, it's just, this tournament has gone from, I mean, not a side show, but the focus was never on the golf, right? I don't think anybody ever used to talk about, like, oh my God, that tournament's cool,

but it's all about how fucking blacked out you can get. And listen, they've maintained that. But the fact that they've maintained that, and also like continue to invest in the golf course, continue to make the guron be better, that's it seems to have attracted a better field. That field tends to shine on these kinds of conditions. Like this tournament just keeps getting better and better and better, and we're kind of talking about it this week too, that it just just there's so much like separation going on on the PJ tour There's just very few events that feel like they're kind of staying stagnant, right? It feels like the good ones are just getting so much better And I would put obviously Riviera in that category. I think the memorial has stepped up in a massive way

I think even like some like travelers is in that camp. I think I think even like some like travelers. I think is in that camp. I think farmers is in that camp. Even like Hawaii, I think tournament champions is in that camp as well. And then it seems like the lower tier events just keep getting worse and worse. And I think there's a lot of reasons for that,

whether it's the wrap around season or trying to treat every event. Like they're the same and making guys pick schedules and all that stuff. But this is a kind of meandering point, but I think it gets to, in case we forget to come back to it later, what we were saying on Slack, just about how little sense it makes for all of these events to be the same amount of FedEx Cup points.

Like this, I am not saying that this felt like a major by any means today, but it felt like a much, much bigger event than the normal 500 point like wake up and flip on the back nine on Sunday. I woke up this morning, was like, fuck yeah, I cannot wait. Can't wait to watch this fight around. I was, so Saturday coverage ran, I had a dinner point at 6.30. How good was Saturday? That didn't even talk about that.

I spent 30 minutes at dinner watching it on my phone because I was dead, I was into it. Sometimes I watch golf because I have to, this was not one of those weekends. I think it sounds like this is a place where they need to have a major because it just produces good leader. Great feel. Can I, can I, don't laugh at me? I just want to say one thing to that point,

strength of field 533 this week. That's enormous. That so, uh, MX was 321, which is actually what you're talking about. No wonder Noren was playing well. Which, you know, not for nothing, like the week after the, the bone saw as well. I know they're paying for all these top guys to, they didn't get a lot of bone saw guys. No, but they ended to get like basically all the rest is awesome. I think it's also, it's coming at the expense of some of the Florida events, right?

For sure. Well, I was talking about voting their schedules and the ones that you would think would be getting better on that same trajectory, like Honda or Bay Hill are like getting shitier and shitier and shitier and just like. Bay Hill, the jury's out on Bay Hill. It's Bay Hill's been sweet the last couple of years,

just because it's been so firm and windy. Yeah, I mean, I was like two years ago and then Bryce and last year, right? Oh, that's right, which was sweet as well. Which we can talk about whether or not you'll be there. I mean, this one sounds like a big leap when Fienal, you know, kind of buckled, like that was right, which was sweet as well. Which we can talk about whether or not you'll be there. I mean, this one, I was like, if we'd go deep when Fienel, you know, kind of buckled, like that was the,

that was the, that was the peak. That was the real big ex-collection. That's the way, you know? No, you don't have to be buckled, I don't know. I don't know where you're there. He technically would have won the last year. That's true. If he didn't play this audio, that's right.

Don't laugh at this. I will. Don't laugh. I'm not making that promise. Somebody said they should host a PGA championship here. Is May too hot? Yes. I thought that's what we were waiting for us to laugh about. No, just more like...

September's, people want the Ryder Cup too. Like, you can't even do that in September and Arizona. I've heard it's a dry heat, but still. Sure, sure, sure. Very dry. Not a whole lot of humidity going on. Can we just get that out of the way? Can we just get that out of the way?

Okay. A whole lot of you. A lot of you need a, like a very basic lesson in, I don't even want to say physics. Like, here's the deal. This debate came up when we were playing golf maybe a few months ago. And someone was like, does the ball fly further farther? Sorry. I'm so crossed up now. I got the, I got the gifts. now. I got the gifts. I know, I got the gifts. Does it fly farther in humidity? And I was like, yeah, it does. And I was like, no, it does.

Oh my God, no, it doesn't. Like literally just Google it, right? There's like 18 studies, a track man study. There's a golf.com, there's a blah, blah, blah. Is that title? There's a golf news network. Every single one is like, yes, water vapor is lighter than air. Look at a periodic table of elements,

like look at how light blah, blah, blah is. Like, I don't even know that stuff, but I just looked it up and it tells you straight up then when it's more humid, the ball flies farther. Which seems counterintuitive. It does, which is how I always remember. Yeah, sometimes I feel like that though. And it's all for the game of offices.

I'm not joking, that one tweet was a serious lesson teacher for me when it came to Twitter. It was the full spectrum of, well, JT Chamsant, wrong. It's like, okay, well, it's not wrong. That's one. So I will present the facts to it. And now people chiming on, like, I disagree. It's like, it's fucking science. I'm sure you got to hear both sides.

You do, you do it. It's like, tough, tough look for you, Solid. And then they start saying, well, it's, you know, it's normally really hot in places that it's also very dry and you're normally at altitude. It's like, yo, those are two separate things. There are three totally distinct things here. Yes. Because on the broadcast, they said like, because of the lack of humanity, the ball is flying farther in Scottsdale, which look, listen, it's warm there. They're at elevation.

It is firm because there's a lack of humidity. That is a contributing factor to the lack of humidity. The ball is going further. All of those things. But if you keep everything else constant, whatever. If you keep everything else constant in humidity, and it's not much, it's a marginal difference. The trackman says it's like one yard, whatever it is, but the ball flies farther in humidity. And it's not much. It's a marginal difference. The trackman says it's like one yard, whatever it is, but a

the ball flies farther in humidity. And like that is like not, you don't get to choose your own facts. You don't get all turned to facts. Great American ballpark is such a band box. Like the ball flies out of there. The ball flies farther. It just does. I don't listen. When it's 50 degrees in human, does it feel like the ball flies like less far? I don't even know what to say. Yes, it does. To me, it feels that way, but science says that's not the case. So I would just agree to this. I will say, I will.

I don't know JT heart. When it's human, yeah, but then JT it's a couple of thousand likes. I know. Oh, shit. I'm going to go with the guy whose name is on his bag on this one. It's like, listen, do I believe that JT has an incredible ability to dial in his distance within 30 minutes of being in whatever location he's in? Of course.

Like, can he control his distance better than I can? Do I even need to say that? But like, on this one fact, he was wrong. I will say, the more humid it gets out in the desert, the less the ball breaks towards the valley. Sure. At TPC Scott still. Is that a fact? That's fact. Yeah.

I don't know these things. See, I trust you on this. Fucking. Okay. See, but I'm willing to stop up this information. Everybody's, well, yeah, this is the valley. This ball breaks towards the valley. Anyways, back to see Hit the Gala.

Before we talk about macro stuff, micro level, I thought him making that putt on 18 after that whole body punch. He putt it great. And like, you know, but him stepping up and making that putt at that speed of like just ramming it home. I'm going to make this fucking putt. He say, hey, that's a ton of money. That's probably a big help for his status.

And be it just shows, man, he's got fucking gumption, you know. 100%. He hits so many shots. There were so many times this week where it could have gone off the rails. And many, many times we see younger dudes with not that much experience through 36 holes, being in that spot.

And he talked about, you super open, I'm like, I'm playing with Brooks and Zander this weekend. Like, holy shit, man, I'm still a little star struck about that. Yet it never looked that way on TV. He's in the sand, you know, in the sandy native desert area, in the shit, in all this trouble, and it's like, okay, he's gonna go backwards here.

Double the second hole on Saturday. Bad. Here we get bad double. Yeah. Oh, the two was playing hard. It was, but he did not hit any good shots. He like, didn't clear the lip of the bunker, and then just like compounded compounded compounded. And I almost, I almost like walked away from the TV just like, oh, I hear a thing.

I wish he would have played well this week, but there he goes. Totally bounces back. Stuff's it on six. Stuff's it on seven. Stuff that on eight. Stuff that on nine. Birdied three of those and then made a couple birdies in the back nine to shoot two under. He just it was it was an emotional ride.

I like the pace at which he plays. He wears his emotion on his sleeve. He was embracing the crowd, pumping him up on 16. There's just a lot to like there. Funky golf swing. Yeah. It's fun to watch. It just absolutely goes after it, murders the wall.

He hits the draw fade according to foul. He's exactly. Love the draw fade. Not only that too, but like coming in and, and basically like having the lead overnight, but not he hadn't finished his first round. Like he slept on the lead and then completely like, shit his pants, like bogey the first two holes to finish his round the next day.

And yeah, just a bunch of those moments and kept bouncing back. So I'm with you TC, just see him bury that put on 18 was awesome. I tweeted it, but this is like, this is why sponsor exemptions are important, right? It's why it sucks. It fucking blows when a drew love or an Omar Euresty or somebody like that gets in. It's like, no, this is the future of the tour. This is the future of the sport.

Get these guys involved. Get them in. And waste management's been awesome about that for a long time. They gave amateur exemptions to Matt Wolf, Rom. I mean, they were easy exemptions to give, I think. And there's certain tournaments that like take pride in it, right? And I think Baracuda does a great job.

Farmers does a good job. Bay Hill typically does a good job. Like, you know, it means something to them. And then there's some tournaments that just, it's like, what the fuck, man? It's like so, so no, somebody. And yeah, it's a long-standing. And I think all of it is like he's made.

This was his fifth cut made in a row. That shit counts and he's got a, he's got a T8 at Sanderson. He had a chance to win. He had a seven iron into a par five on the back nine at Sanderson and hit it in the water. And he was looking like he was going to win that tournament until that shot. And he, so he definitely has a talent to win. Can I share a couple college stories from Brentley Romite at Golf Channel?

This is from the golf channel dot com article. It's a goal developed reputation in college for intentionally hitting high handicapped shots before tournaments. Shanks, tops, chunks, slices, hooks, you name it all in effort to throw off his opponents. Before his first college event in the fall of 2015, Tagawa alarmed his coaches while striking putts on the practice screen with the toe of his overturned putter. Later that season to go was purposely topping three woods on the range, prompting the co an opposing coach to run up to beard and break the news. I feel bad for your guy. He can't seem to hit the ball. The most memorable a miss hit came just two events into that first semester. The range was packed that morning

before a shot gun started the meadow club and to gole found himself warming up on the far left side. Just a few spots over from Arizona State star John rom. Tagalog grabbed the nigh iron, turned to his teammates and whispered, watch this. It was the best shake I've ever hit. He said it went 90 degrees right across the range, right past rom. He gave me this look. I tried not to look up to make it look like it was an accident.

Oh man, I can't believe I did that. That's so hard to do. Oh God. Yeah. Like the true, true, true intentional shank, I know everybody thinks they, oh yeah, no, I can miss hit it whenever I want. But the true, hard, dead, right, immediate, no spin right off the hausle intentional shank is really hard to do.

I feel like TC runs this playbook a little bit with some of the drinking before rounds. I never know, I can never know quite where it's at. So it's not something just really on the lower end. It does, yeah, I'm gonna get, never know, I never know quite where it's at. So it's not just really on the lower. It does, yeah, I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get three bloody berries to go. Like, fuck, is he gonna play like a really well or really bad?

I don't know, I'm not gonna play. I'm gonna play it in Mix of Boat. Sure, sure. Mix results, I would say, but. I think the other thing about the gala, one the 2014 LA City Championship. We talk a lot about national opens, city opens, city. We're, it's a city.

Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. I think it's awesome. You know, guys go out and they stack up AJA events or the world junior and stuff like that. But no, I think like playing against people that are far older than you when you're in high school

and learning how to win against, you know, punch above your weight is really, really sick. Especially in, oh, city like L.A., which has a couple decent decent amateur golfers. I felt like I was along for the ride emotionally on that. And, you know, there was a scene that captured him afterwards with tears in his eyes and he's hugging his family and things like that for like, I, you're just not going to get that if you have, like Ryan Palmer up, you know, missing out on a playoff by one shot and that that made it I don't know made it feel like it was worth being a golf fan for a weekend a lot of the other stuff

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call 888 789 777 777 or visit ccpg.org slash chat in New York call 877 8 hope in Y or text hope in Y467369. They did. I was getting some new shit going on. They did not like me trying to get that all in in one breath. But back to TBC Scottsdale. I've been trying to think of a way. I'm hoping you guys can help me. Sorry, one thing I'm thinking of the golly

in case we don't come back to him. Sponsored exemption in the field next week as well. So look out for that. That's excited for that. Cannot wait. Also, I think made the cut there as an amateur a couple of years ago, maybe last year, but anyways. Friend of ours was texting saying,

if he wins this tournament, he's gonna win the master. Which was a really bold thing. Really, really bold thing. This is through about 16 hours today. He's like, man, I like that draw. I like that right to the fall flight. Scott Stale, I'm trying to formulate a way to like, man, I like that draw. I like that right to the fall flight. Scott Stale. I'm trying to formulate a way to communicate this

because it doesn't quite make sense in my head, but I want you guys to help me with this. It's like there's a scale of some kind when it comes to appreciation of a golf course, right? And is TPC Scott Stale at the top of the list in terms of great golf courses in the world or ones I would want to play or even my favorites to watch pro's play? not necessarily, but it works in a certain way.

Like opposite of the spectrum, I think it'll be Royal Melbourne, like the design of that golf course with the width, it's not long golf holes, but the firmness and all of the intricacies of the pin placements and the bunkers and where they're positioned, I think is the most fun golf to play and watch pros at. Yet you can get kind of slide more towards the middle where you end up with a lot of PGA tour golf courses that aren't that interesting from an architectural standpoint and don't seem to test the pros in an interesting way.

You see what kind of what I'm getting at? And if you go all the way on the other end of the spectrum, you end up at this kind of version that's like a souped up entertainment product golf course with the shot value that's intended straight for the pros and like it fits for TV, it looks good on TV, you can appreciate it on TV. I doesn't make me really wanna go play golf that much

but like, man, does it frickin' work for the shots they hit? And it just is like, I know events are individual and it doesn't work this way but it just feels like pro golf should be a lot more like, here's your stadium, here's your arena, go play golf in this and we'll build the thing around it more than it's like, hey, let's go to Ridgewood Country Club or blah, blah, blah, country club.

I don't know if that makes sense, but that's what I appreciate about this course and where it fits in the scale for me. And it, the comparisons to Sawgrass are pretty apparent and interesting. Oh, it's, I mean, let's not lose sight of the fact. The like the front nine at TPC Scott's tail like blows. It does, but even when it's firm like this, even those holes work and shine through like a, like the third green is awesome.

And you're asserting skill sets. Yeah, and when they put the pins in cool spots, because not every hole can be a risk reward, there's water on the left, water on the right, whatever, like hit the shot or you're gonna go home, I guess every shot, you know, I guess every hole could be that if you wanted. I can't think of too many golf courses where it is,

but even like when the conditions are right, there's a lot more good on that front nine than I think we've seen in years past. But I think I think getting at what you're describing, I mean, I think that's like the goal of the TBC network, right? I think the problem is that a lot of the courses just aren't very, yeah, there's nothing good. Right, but that's like, I feel like they were onto it and then they sure or they play the courses in the wrong time of year. Like something like Southwind. Southwind is a good example. Even like Louisiana is one that like has a lot of those duor dash shots. It's just like it's raining for five straight weeks leading up to the

tournament and it just turns to do a dartboard. But like there is some of that in there. And so I don't know. I mean, I think the tour tries to go to as many of those places as possible. It's just it's hard if you don't, if you're not building like, I mean, literally building that network, you know, from the ground up, which I think they've tried to do, but yeah, I've probably missed a couple of thoughts. I think that there's probably an opportunity

as they go more international to, you know, get that with some of the international venues that they go to. What year did they redo? CBC Scott's on. 14. 14, after Phil shot 16. He went 20. 28 under.

Because it was kind of stinky back then. I mean, it was not that it was not, the shot value was not there. You could miss in certain spots and still score super easily. There wasn't that balance but the close line between birdie and bogey, which it has now.

And again, that's a lot of attributed firmness but it was like watching this first wildlife a few weeks ago, like it's just polar opposites for me, polar, for the entertainment factor. And wildlife is a reiner, and this is a wise car. Like usually, you know, we would, we would trend towards the classic architecture, but question for you on 18,

why is sheffler hitting driver on 18? I think driver eliminates water. Total like, okay, so, so three wood doesn't total eliminate water. I don't think so. You saw her zander hit it, and he only cleared the water by, looked at a couple of steps. If you pull it way, way, way left.

And that's so different, like, to your point, we were talking about that before we came on. Like, I feel like in my, like, it's like all this is called, I'm just 480 yard hole. In my life, pretty conscious golf watching life, that hole used to be so hard Mm-hmm, right?

Like Kevin Stadler's trying to Yeah, exactly. Oh my god like this is such a tough hole. There's no way he can hit this fairway This is so hard it out these guys are they have literally less than 100 yards It's like flip flip wedges in there and I remember like the inflection point I think was when Brooks won what year is that 16 you wanted 15 15, yeah. That was the first time I remember like someone driving it way, way, way, way down there. Obviously I'm sure it wasn't the first time, but that was the first one that really sticks out of my mind

and now it just seems like on TV, I'm sure any players who are in the field listening to this who'd be like, you know, that whole is still really hard, but. Well, they add the. It does not look like it. The church view bunkers down the left, because it used to just be rough right there

and then it was kind of a joke. Now, I mean, we, the church pew bunkers down the left because it used to just be rough right there And then it was kind of a joke and now I mean we the church people Here's our kind of stupid, but it forces people to the right. How many balls do you see end up to the right stupid effective? Yeah, that's the whole design. I think it's kind of stupid but effective like it's silly to have an island You could sell me on that right? Yeah, yeah, like that's that's what kind of works, right? I mean it's I don't think it's genius Architecture is my point but it works jacks That's what kind of works, right? I mean, it's, I don't think it's genius architectures my point, but it works. That's how it's all jacks beat. 18, stupid as hell.

That's what's an effective man. It makes you think about going for it and too. We could maybe revisit that. Can we, we'll talk Kayla here in a second. Can we get to some of the fun stuff that happened this week? Harry Higgs and Joel Damon, they were tweeting about or Joel Damon tweeted,

if this gets enough retweets, Harry Higgs is gonna take his shirt off on 16. Did not think this was actually gonna happen. Harry Higgs. Where do we, where do we get out of this? We have fun with it. I had a lot of fun with this. Okay.

I texted Harry after it just like was preparing him to be fired by the PJ Tordes. His response had, it was not shareable on air. Yeah. Too many expletives, didn't it? He was still very pumped up. PJ Tord cannot post that on Twitter.

Exactly. And find him. Yeah, you can't have it both ways. I don't think that could be the case. Which shout out to them for doing that. Like now they embraced the fun of this event on social media this week, the Holen Ones and which we can talk about and all that.

Like they had, when that moment happened, I was like, oh my God, I'm gonna show this on coverage, because like, you know, these guys gonna be get busted or they get called to the principal's office, all that. And they embraced and went for it. And I mean, Joe Damon, PD Pablo, to sure, about 16 green. He didn't even make the putt.

It was Harry that made it. Good to see Harry flashing a little bit of form too. He's been scuffling a little bit the putt. It was hairy. They made it. Good to see a hairy flashing a little bit of form too. He's been scoffing a little bit the last four or five months. Cannot stress how much better golf is going to be the more leaderboards he's on, the more Sundays we're watching, the big rig. What again, polar opposites of the Saudi experience, one of the alcohol being thrown onto 16 green and two of all being at the tournament. Whipping your shirts off it around on the green.

That fan experience, man, I don't know if now we want to talk about Saturday. I mean, that was... Well, the only thing I got to mention, the, I know there's a lot, a lot of plenty of pearl clutching going around. I think I called this tournament, I think a bucket list experience to attend,

which like, once, which attend once. That's a whole other conversation. This was the first week I think where I was watching this tournament with just a huge smile on my face, just like, man, good for that, man. That looks so fun. I don't ever want to go to it again. I've had enough. I would die if I tried to go to it. The sun would be too hot.

I could have like three drinks. I'd be too sleepy. It's dry heat. It is a dry heat though. People forget that. I do love some of the Twitter. But there was so many just like, oh, I'd be too sleepy. It's dry heat. It is a dry heat though, people forget that. I do love some of the Twitter. But there was so many just like, oh, that's not my idea of golf.

It's like, oh, yeah, it looks like they're really struggling without you there, man. But yeah, anyways. Well, I'm saying like that, again, steering into the entertainment aspect of what this tour is supposed to be. Like this is like the payoff for it, right? I mean, they've invested so much in this tournament

and it's like, try to like watch that not smile and laugh. Like I was just giggling all weekend watching the antics on 16 and so like. But again, I think a big part of it is that when it's time for the golf, when the final couple groups come through, it takes that off too. It's taking awesome. It pays that off too. It pays off too. Yes.

It checks so many boxes. Like, again, we're not necessarily about grow the game in the way that a lot of people are trying to do it from a very corporate perspective, but honestly throwing a bunch of beer cans on the 16th green, letting that circulate on social media is about as good of exposures you can get for golf. It's not a hot pot. It's a hot pot. It's a hot pot. It's a hot pot. Or yeah, or like, yo, let's not fuck it up, guys. is about as good of exposures you can get for golf. Until can't lay his putt hits the mark from one of them.

Or yeah, or like, yo, let's not fuck it up guys. Like we can't be doing it all that. We can't be doing it when JT chips and on Sunday. No, ACE is only. ACE is only, like, too anxious about it. Yes, absolutely. ACE is only or when co-crack goes all in. Exactly, exactly.

By the way, like, I kind of surprised, I mean, most sporting events, you can't have bottles of beer. Like they take the cap off or they put the, I think it's like they put it in a, they'll aluminum cans with a top of them. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, glass or whatever. I would imagine next year they might, they might change. Well, there's zero waste. It's got all be, I guess the plastic cups could be recycled, but they're probably trying to limit

as much of that shit as possible. Which, like, think about how much beer they're selling. They're probably trying to just save on no extra cups. Yeah, I mean, it's also like, I doubt that's how much. That's how much. There's so many. Because aluminum coarser like cans got to just absolutely rule, rule rule Scottsdale.

Well, Scottsdale's big margarita country too. Sure. Sure. Oh, something's going to have to change next year. Like they're, yeah, listen, I'm all about the fun. Was it an incredible scene? Like, is it a good idea to like have constantly having beer showers on one of your golf holes during competition?

It is absolutely not for an insurance standpoint. Like, I've been hit with one at Pimlico at the pre-knot. It does not feel good. It really, really, really does not feel good. They need to start doing the, is that the, where you run on top of the point? Oh, yeah, that's it. They need to start doing that.

That's the thing. That's every sec. Who's to say that they're not doing that? Exactly. Well, the, like, I feel like the recycling thing is kind of overblown as well, because there's so many new stories out there about like people, people recycling. I've definitely, yeah, it just goes to the same place, and they're not

actually recycling it. Into that tournament more times than I could count. And I never have walked away, be like, man, this thing is really good for the environment. It's just really good for for plan it earth that we're that we're putting this thing on. All this fertilizer, all this grass in the man desert. Yeah, we're really we're really doing it. All that's my favorite part of going to that tournament. I've been twice is watching women walk around and high heels at the end of the day.

End of the day Saturday is a complete blood bath. Total blood bath. Which can we talk about Saturday? I mean, CBS. CBS, first of all, we were not short on praise for their coverage this past weekend. We were not shy on Thursday. I see what you did.

I thought Sunday, you know, Saturday was great. I thought Sunday was, there were some moments I would pick at. Is it perfect? No. Absolutely not. And people were like, oh my God, I hate those guys. You know what?

I do too. But from where it was two, three years ago to now, it's a night and day. Just think about how much fun it's been to wash golf. Like that's very intangible. Like somebody tweeted that at me this week. I was talking about what an awesome tournament this was. And they're like,

yeah, did the broadcast get way better or something? Like I really like have enjoyed watching it. Oh my God. Imagine how that would affect your experience. So like a much better broadcast. They didn't go to commercial today for like 30 minutes when they first came on. Imagine the I hate to do to pick on them as these as career is no longer active, but you can put up my guy LV. No, I'm not. I'm saying like this was the problem, right? The game had, like, there was somebody that was,

probably once very good at producing golf in a different era in the era passed him by. And now you have Seller Shion who has taken a whole fresh new approach. They, they did brand new graphics last year and new graphics again this year. Like they're actively changing things. And I didn't even know this was gonna happen

that they put a live booth on the 16th tee with Colt Nost and Amanda Bale onus down there. And it was freaking awesome. Like Keith Mitchell came up and Harry Higgs came up and we're doing short inner like they didn't execute it the best, but they're coming by and commenting on their shots after after they hit him on 16. They totally captured the essence of that tournament just by changing something going down there on the ground with and it's not Ian Baker Fansher Fowdo going down there was like two young relatable people that can relate to the players and capture the environment and they're paid off with a freaking hole in one. At that moment, that was the payoff for that

investment that they made. I do give them credit. They're blowing NBC out of the water. Imagine saying that like three years ago. Really, even that on the 72nd hole and then in the playoff, that little picture and picture of Scottie Shuffler. That's a, and that shit that they were doing back in the, in the late 80s, early 90s,

and they've brought it back. It's like, yo, you don't have to reinvent the wheel here. You just gotta be conscientious. Yes, that's what I was gonna say is, it feels like a lot of the bells and whistles and the graphics and all that stuff I've never really gotten excited about because it's never feels like it's additive, right? Like it's always like like the I mean just to point out like one needless one is like the big like hologram of the player

Swinging by Amanda as she's like trying to do the interview is like yeah I mean I really like need that but like the shot tracer that shows where the ball lands and how it spun and how it took a certain slope, I'm like, oh, hell yeah. Like teach me something, man. Like help my experience as I'm watching. And it seems like that's what they've done a ton of in the last year and a half.

And they've worked around all their, like a lot of the constraints. I'm like, yo, it's the same commercial, a little bit, right? But it feels way better now, right? Yeah, I mean, shit, even the A on risk reward, they're explaining it out and talking about the strategy Yeah, but it feels way better now, right? Yeah, I mean, shit, even the A on risk reward. So good. Like they're explaining it out and talking about the strategy of it,

not just this vacuous vehicle through which to sell advertising. Which, if coverage is gonna get better, it's gonna be sponsors that want something to do something like that rather than, you know, repeat commercial that we've seen a million times. And one other thing that they've done an awesome job with, especially of these past few weeks is that we've seen, you know, Adam Shank, we've seen Tom Hogi and guys that are straight up not familiar to viewers at home,

see it to go all this week. Like they are prepared with like profiles on them that fit into the show a lot better than like, trying to shoehorn it. Like they're just prepared to get you up to speed on like, Dottie has done an awesome job with that. If getting you up to speed on who this guy is, what matters to him, blah, blah, blah,

and how he got here. And like, that has just been a huge improvement, I think. Yeah. Dottie and Hulk Crews, like, energized. Like, like, Dottie still stinks. I don't love, I don't love Dottie, but like, she clearly works hard. Yeah.

I don't think Ian Baker finished, seems like the nicest guy in the world, too nice. Big, noble little guy, Fowler, it's clear that he does not, he has no relationships with any of the fucking players. He doesn't do his homework. He adds literally nothing to the broadcast. That's the one week link, I think. Like the biggest week link there.

Nance tries his best man to get him to like, hey, this plug bunker shot on Saturday, how would you hit this shot? He's like, hey, old stab. Like that's all he said. He was like, no, do tell people like you close your club face. You want to hit this far behind it.

And you know, aim for the fat part of the green. Like, there's 15 handicaps at home that need these tips. Nance is moving the ball out there. He's trying. He's putting guys in position. And it's just the drop. Russell Westbrook just dropped. Right.

Is unbelievable. There was a really, really good, well, it felt it was Russell Westbrook just cooperate is unbelievable. There was a really, really good. Yeah. Well, it's not going to change. Well, that's the other thing too. It's like, you talk to I've talked to the probably a dozen guys out there. Like, dude, like I've never once seen Fowdo talking to someone on the

range or coming out before the broadcast starts and just doing his homework or talking to caddies or whatever. Like he, it's just the mega complacency. Really good tidbit from Andrew Marsh and this week. It was not related to golf, but about Al Michaels. He's like, notice that every time Al Michaels

teased Collinsworth up for something, he's always explaining the most obvious parts of it, kind of including that. Like, basically, if there's an ABC, D and E, he's basically saying A, B and C, and then letting Collinsworth really get into the D and E. Which is what I always feel like, Nance is trying to do.

Exactly. Or he's always like, you know, we've seen this pup before, and it's gotta be really hard. He's gotta keep up the speed. Isn't that right, Nick? What do you think? And like say the advanced stuff here.

Oh boy, it's so giving a little whistle. A little whistle. He did something today where it was like, you know, can't lay as a real consistent, you know, consistent player. Capca really consistent. Tagala hands player, Sheffler hands player. I was like, what is the scale where the two options are hands and consistent? Like what does that mean?

I'm sure there's something there. Yes. You know, like he you obviously brilliantly smart about golf. And it's like, man, I just would love to hear it. That's true. You're a frustrating player. Yeah, man, I would love to hear like what's actually on your mind. Like you won, how many made your six days? Six days.

And like rebuild your swing and you have all this knowledge and you have like zero and you know, and a great accent and you have zero ability to convey it. It's first like, you know, getting the weeds if you need to. You know, like I guess golf's just not conducive to that, but it just seems like if someone's doesn't have that skill, you wouldn't, you know, keep them on the air for 20 years. One thing about CBS that I do wanna say, you brought up the Fagala, you know,

commercial thing when After You hit a shot on 16. I was thinking about that a little bit more. And it sucks, they're behind the eight ball because like the commercial load is what it is. But it kind of hit me that you don't ever, ever get chills watching PJ tour golf. You do like at the majors and maybe at the players and maybe at like the tour championship,

I think of like the Tiger moment, right? But like watching week to week PJ Tour Golf, like never ever ever. And a lot of that is because you don't ever have any fucking time. It can't breathe. It can't. And like the Thegola thing would have been such a

perfect example. Again, I'm well aware of the constraints. They're gonna pick a bad moment no matter what you picked. Yes, but this is where it becomes like, what I was saying at the start is you have this like electric rookie that everybody's rooting for. stuffed it like is he nervous? No, he's fucking pumping up the crowd. They're all cheering his name. You have a steady cam following him. Like,

God, man, just let that breathe for like 60 seconds would have been an all-time moment and made fans like four life. And then that clip goes everywhere and get shared all over the place. And it's just, I don't know, it sucks. But then again, that's part of the situation there. They are for that was having that 25 minutes up front so that the broadcast gets into a flow. Yeah, and it's probably like the one thing we've screamed about as well is live golf shots,

live golf shots, live golf shots. And you know, I'm with you 100%, I think it just comes down to the model and you got to fit a commercial on it. Some of it too. I mean, this is this dude's second year executive producing. Flexing with people. You know, like I'm curious to see, I think, I think Riviera is a place where they've

done such a poor job over the last decade of- Remember when Harold Varder topped it? Oh my god. He was leading on the most famous hole in the, like like maybe top five most famous hole on the PJ tour. They did it, show it. Like they didn't even go back and show it for an hour and a half. It took everyone screaming. Yeah.

That's where we're coming from here. They made it for God about Keppka, the year he won in 2015. Everyone's speed though, almost won it. They didn't show it. Go shot in the final round until he until the 17th hole. Yeah. Yes, I revier. That was a revier.

But Riv is such a place where like the trees are so good There's that massive hill where everybody's sitting behind the 18th green You've got the the scene you know on 10 you got the scene on one behind one T Like showing some of those other angles showing context yeah, right? That's the thing which seems like this place is a great job of those moments are going to breathe a lot more when you have the fan interactions and you're showing, you know, kind of that collective, you know reaction that that kind of collective embrace of a player. Sheltsy O2 says what can the PJ to learn from the waste management open from an entertainment aspect. I don't know if stadium holes and beer showers are the answer for every week, but this tournament seems to get it right. for every week, but this tournament seems to get it right. I totally agree, and it's hard for me to say, you can't do this every week, I agree,

but I walked away from this being like, man, I just feel like Torgolf should look a lot more like this than it does the 3M. Question, how do you feel about the bear trap at Honda? I think they've tried to do something similar. I think the drunken crowd around it adds to at least adds to it. That's what I was gonna say, is like, listen, man, I've, again, I've been to P something similar. I know. I think the drunken crowd around it adds to at least adds to it. That's what I was gonna say is like,

listen man, I've, again, I've been to P.J. National and like I can't remember too many holes other than those ones, you know, other than those three at 18. Yeah. But like it just make it, like make it a spectacle. The players is a spectacle. I mean, that much money down the line

with all that water like, in that scene. I think what Phoenix does, like unabashedly, is just, like they don't care if you're there to watch the golf or not. Right? Just get people there and then for the big moments, there's gonna be enough people around.

And so I'm not smart enough necessarily to know what that is, but it's hard. I mean, the other thing about this is, I mean, this is obvious too, but this has taken 30 years now, 40 years now to actually like grow into what it is.

So it's not something you just like flip a switch and do overnight. And I think when people do try to do that, it usually gets pretty cringey. But I think from a golf perspective, the like firmness is good. I mean, I think we can take that away. The ball on the ground leads to the crowd reactions. The crowd reactions. Yes. Whereas the ball in the air and landing and just stopping.

Doesn't lead to crowd reactions. Even if you're not into this stuff, it matters to your experience more than you probably think. The moments are so much longer when the balls on the ground. Amen. I don't know why I just thought of it. I mean, the goat move of all of this was a gib justice. How much are telling me? the goat move of all of this was Jim Justice. And he had it out 100 dollar bills for a whole and one of the 18th whole agree briar.

And I think just like, I'm not saying, who knows where Jim Justice got those $100 bills based on some of the things that have come out about him, but allegedly. Alleged, sorry. I think turning things into the good kind of spectacle as much as you can. It's weird to me that you see that more

on the corn fairy tour than you do on the PJ tour, right? And maybe there's something to be said about just the amount of clutter and red tape and the difficulty with which it is to do things on the PJ tour, or maybe it has to do with the hospitality and how they basically sell so much hospitality. There's not really any room left to do anything like organic or fun,

because that's a big part of Phoenix too, it's like it used to not be all hospitality. Like the reason it was, you know. It's gonna bring that up. It's called the People's Open was because it was just encircled by a bunch of just grounds pass holders. And all the, like there was places, you know, up there, like kind of to the left of the tee up there,

and then there was the hill in the back right where all the college kids would hang out. And they've kind of gotten squeezed out. And it's just, you know, there is still a lot of it. They have built it up more and more vertically though. Like there's still a lot of seating. General admission. Yeah. And but yeah, the point is like it's, it's, it's probably

a hard puzzle to fit more pieces into, you know, with the way that they just, the greedy PJ Tours just printed money with hospitality, which they key for themselves and definitely don't give back to the players. Shout out. The Wichita Open. Yeah. Well, that's what I was thinking of. It's all the dollar beers things. I think like, I mean, I know they're a sponsor of ours, but it's an event that we've been to a bunch like the colonial event, right? I was at 13 in the part three. Yeah. Just the way that that kind of feels like a stadium and it feels like a meeting place.

I think turning like specific holes into, like listen, they're not going to be 16, but just starting small and having whether it's, you know, get people out to the front nine or get people out to these places where there aren't, you know, where there aren't hospitality and all kinds of things already taking place. I think the other thing that's nice about 16

when you're there too, is you can look over and see 15. You get a glimpse of 17. Like I think connectivity with other holes is important. They do a great job of that at Colonial as well. Can we get to some of the fireworks for the week? And then we can go back down the leaderboard when we come back around, but I think people are ready for us to get to the thickness

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You know what it reminded me some of the things when I lived in Europe like something that happened the middle of the night I would just wake up to just a shit storm of stuff I was actually awake for this Friday night. Charlie Hoffman took two. Social media. Took to social media. And actually in the ESPN piece about it, that was like one of the third sentence.

Charlie Hoffman took to social media. Says what a joke at USGA, at PGA tour. Today on the 13th hole, I hit my drive in the water and took a drop on the side of a hill that no grass. And this may be a typo. There's going to be a couple of those sides you go through. Drops twice, then place on a small tough of grass, turned around, the ball started rolling into the water. I was under the impression that the USGA had changed that rule. I was wrong. I had to take another penalty for doing nothing wrong at all. Did everything by the book.

It's still mind blowing that a group of amateurs rule the professional game of golf. I also blamed the PGA tour rules officials for putting out a terrible penalty area line where this could even happen. No accountability at any level here. No protection for the players at all. You wonder why guys are wanting to jump ship and go play another choice. Do they have players need transparency, protection and consistency? We don't have that under the current governing bodies.

I'm just going to pause for a second to say no wonder we're going to the Saudis. We need transparency and protection and consistency. It reminds me of the offensive health show. When Jamie Foxx does play don't even play Ernie goes we simply lead don't know what he has we can't have this As George so eloquent he put it. He said sorry most definitely Sorry Jay we need to do better at all levels of the PGA tour including myself who represent the players on the board of the tour If we don't we won't have a tour any longer. Hopefully there will be a change soon

replies include Phil Mickelson. I feel yeah Bryson replies with I wholeheartedly agree Phil saying feel that The goat oh God where do we even start with this? Oh, first of all, you're on the fucking player advisory, right? Or the policy board? Policy board. Like you.

What's the policy issue here? Yeah. All right, let's start at the beginning. Let's start with the rule. Okay. Because I know you did some digging. Did some digging on this. Explain what actually happened and what he said.

So here's what happened. There is a, on the 13th hole, it's par five. There's a pond that is short right of the tea and runs along the right side of the tea. Shot to Ricky. And a different hole. Oh, it was? Yeah, it was in the 11th hole that Ricky happened.

We can get to that. Just remember, continue. So Charlie Hoffman hits his shot. It must have covered part of the land. And the, that's hard to describe. But like it kind of angles the further up the fairway, you get the further right the water gets, right? So, but there's a big hill that's right of the fairway

that if you hit it on there, it's gonna bound down into the water. So I don't know if he carried the water or if it hit the hill and went down in the water. Anyways, he goes up to take his drop, drops it. It doesn't stay. Drops it doesn't stay. Does the place on a tough of grass, not a tough to, according to the caption, places it goes

back to the bag, does whatever and the ball rolls into the water. And he is under the impression that after this happened to Ricky at the same golf course on the 11th hole in 2019, he's under the impression that the USDA changed that rule, which they did not. Don't know where the blame is on that. I was under the impression the rule was different, but it's not. I feel like as a professional competing in the event,

that's probably on you. If you're really just... If you exact same course that it happened that prior. If you really distill it down into like, I'm Matt as hell because I thought this thing was true and it is, it's like, what do you guys thought Craig T. Nelson was dead? I thought, Matt.

I remember, I thought Craig T. Nelson was dead for like six or seven years. Remember your mad as hell when you found out you're awake. But like for him to crow about zero accountability, you're right dude. Like you have fucking zero accountability. And it is not what I heard that there was no accountability because this was like clearly explained to him after the round. Like there was a lengthy discussion. Why has the rule not been changed? So it's not as simple a simple snap of the fingers to say like, all

right, you, you know, you take a drop, your ball comes to rest and it rolls into the water. That shouldn't be a penalty. Like in the spirit of the game, like in the just, like, is that fair? Is that like a appropriate punishment? I would say no. But what? So the ball wants its placed is in play. You know, the rules official is going to point at it and say that ball is now in play. And that's how you know shit's about to get real. So what if somebody like in his group hits a ball onto that hill, they're right next to each other, right?

And then or Hoffman's ball goes into the water, but Hoffman places his they're both right next to each other and they both roll in the water. Like the both balls are in play, ball goes into the water, but Huffman places is, they're both right next to each other, and they both roll in the water. Like, the both balls are in play, and both rolled in the water. Like, Huffman's wouldn't be a penalty after taking the drop, yet the guy whose ball was in play, would be a penalty.

That doesn't make sense. It doesn't really make sense. Like, what about his gripe with where they drew the line? The hazard line. The gripe there from the picture I saw is like, all right, man, they could have put it like, way up the rough, like on the fairway line. And you probably wouldn't have even carried it. And you'd have been dropping up by the T box. Like, it, there wasn't like a

meat. There wasn't an in between option. Like, it's a steep slope. So what do you do? Like, maybe that's a course design issue, right? You shouldn't have a slope that slopes that hard into the water that you can't drop there, whatever. If he knows the rule, I'm sure he probably approaches his drop a little differently. Like, you know, they find toughs of grass that are beneficial to their lie. But, you know, if he would have known that it's a penalty if it rolls in, maybe it's been playing professional golf for 25 years, long time. But I don't know how much longer he can do it. I mean, I don't know how much longer this tour is going to be here. And yeah, to go on social media and just bitch about this is, I don't know, man, it's

somebody tweeted this or sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, I'm watching back into it. Like I just don't get like what the, who you're blaming here, what you're mad about here. Is this, it's not gonna take it anymore. This weird, horrible job. I don't even, he wasn't even in Saudi Arabia last week. He's not a name we've heard and the rumors for like jumping the league.

I think it's just truly like this horrible injustice happened to me and that is the same as everything else everyone else has been complaining about. Imagine if he got stiffed out of $20 billion. He fell. He would be really mad. And that was before stiffed out of $20 billion. He fell. He would be really mad. And that was before Harry Higgs that Joe David took their shirts off.

Imagine how much he thinks Phil estimates Charlie Hoffman's media rights act. Oh my gosh. At least six or seven hundred million. Oh, sure. For sure. Has to be. Like the audacity to say, like,

oh, the tour doesn't protect us. Oh my god. Like, what does that even mean? What the fuck are you talking about, man? That is outrageous. This is the most player-friendly rules organization ever. Like, you guys literally own the PG&A tour and the rules officials will do whatever they can

to a fault, to find the best, like, the rosiest possible outcome. I mean, like, did he miss the whole Patrick Reed? Oh my God. A couple of years ago. It's weird, should've done. You should've just checked to see if it was ball. If I put my finger in that, push it down. It's probably wet enough.

Just push it down into the little end of the day. I didn't even get to, he tagged a bunch of media outlets in it, tagged NBC all this like, and he tagged the Saudi international in it, the The tournament that he didn't even play in. Like, oh, God, yeah, this God, we just, we can't do it. You see what I've do it for you guys? Tori, I got you. And he did this at the tournament

that his primary sponsor is a title sponsor of. Like he's like Mr. Wastemanagement. Yeah. Sorry, Jay. And then he posts that chicken shit, Instagram posts the next day, he's like, oh, it looks like I have a master. You know, taking off the trash here.

What a dipshit man. And then he went and finished like DFL, I'm pretty sure. He shot 8975 on a weekend. That's tough. After that. Probably unrelated. The thing that bothers me, I mean, I know it bothers you guys the most too,

but this weird gaslighting of just like, listen man, this is a lot of fucking money we're talking about over here, I need to make somebody look like the bag of the stock me, you wanna talk about no accountability, by the way. Just like, I'm gonna nuke this organization that has made me more money than like $32 million. So much money.

So much money for being like relatively anonymous, right? Yeah. And if he didn't take the first round lead at the master's every year, really anonymous. Where the hell is Charlie Huffload? To turn around and just absolutely flush that down the toilet like immediately. And maybe we're making too much out of a social media post.

No, we're not. We're just getting started. It is, dude, it's so grimy. Like, what a bunch of fucking pussy. But wait, like, just say what you want to do, man. Look at Monaco. Say what you want to do. No, look at the comp here.

It's that, what are the rules? Are they going to play under in Saudi Arabia? Is it a different set of rules? Is the issue here that the rules officials don't protect you? Who's the head rules official of the Saudi league? Slugger. It's slugger white. Yeah.

It's the same thing. How is the rule going to be different over there? I mean, it's the equivalent of like, smush parker, you know, going to Adam Silver and being like, fuck this man, you guys are calling too many travels. You guys are calling too many charges. I'm going over, I'm playing in Greece, man. This is ridiculous like I just it's it blows my mind to because like like not only the 32 million dollars

Which you know people and rightly like they've said because Justin Ray you know tweeted hey like this is his career record or whatever 32 million dollars a lot of money like relative to other sports, you know for a 20-year career like all right It's probably fairly like adequately compensated money like relative to other sports, you know, for a 20 year career, like, all right, it's probably fairly like adequately compensated relative to other sports, but going beyond that $32 million of all the shit that he's made in endorsements. And I'm sure his pension is, yeah, is probably eight figures, right? Oh, it's, yeah. So I seven figures. A good, no, a good rule. I've heard is between I think but somewhere we're out between 50 and 60% of your career earnings is what you can expect

in your pension. So yeah, we're talking an extra 20. That's four taxes, too. Yeah, and look like the one thing I'll say is like you make $32 million on tour. That's from beating a lot of people. That's when you get in the golf ball and the whole a lot like that money is earned. He's that money is earned. Relatively speaking. But like the idea here being that you have provided more value to the PGA tour than you have received, that is fucking laughable here. Well, that's, that's the ultimate irony in this is Michelson and, and Bryson are basically, you know, using him as an asset in this case where he's actually the guy that they're trying to kind of fight against.

Yes. Yeah. Charlie Hoffman's and the William McGurts and the Peter Mellnotti, the guys that are like using them as a human shield. Yeah, they're like taking shit off the table when like they're not putting anything back on the table. Nobody's going to the waste management Phoenix open to watch Charlie Hoffman, right? They're going to watch the top 15 to 20 players or the new up and coming story or whatever, but they're not going to watch

Charlie Hoffman. So for them, it's like, no, like this is the guy that you guys are trying to get away from because he's hoovering up way too much money on like an outsized amount of money. I forget who said this on Twitter this week. Somebody was like, maybe like the whole class act store is like just to prevent us from seeing how shitty a lot of these guys are. Because that's a saying. It just, it, it just like, what do you think the other league is going to be like, if 25 years on the tour and a ruling went your against you, like for very specific reason, here's

why it did, but like, all right, that's enough to just undo all that. Like, I'd rather go play somewhere else. It's just wild that a guy on the policy board is coming out at the drop of a hat saying this. Yeah. That's one bad ruling. Yeah. It's like man, like how fucking bad is stuff in Torland right now?

How bad is like is Jay really losing locker room that bad? But how justified is it is what I'd rather get to the bot like this. None of this feels like real. None of this feels like. No, that's what I mean. Torin gaslighting fake shit. Yeah. Trying to like shine the big spotlight over feels like, no, that's what I mean. Two-tolerant. Two-tolerant is gaslighting fake shit, trying to like shine the big spotlight over on some, no, they're the bad guys.

Listen, I'm not a politician, man. I'm just out here trying to play golf. I'm just trying to grow the game. And listen, if they didn't drive me away, I wouldn't have to go do this. I don't know what to tell you guys. I don't want to take all this money, but I have to. I have a one C6, awful guy.

Those are bad guys over there. Bad guys. Yeah. And that's where again, the story is, you should listen to what ABS is talking. He's actually a better guy. The media's got a kind of dirty. But if you didn't listen to last week, we talked a lot about,

all right, our issues with the tour are well documented. I would say what 99% of them are probably from sitting in this seat as a fan when it comes to the entertainment aspect of it and the price that the fans pay for the viewing experience, all the commercials blah, blah, blah. That all means funneling more money to the players wallets. Right. So from as we're sitting here, I think the tour does a tremendous job of funneling money to the players. Like that's the whole purpose of the tour. Right? Keep the sponsors happy, keep the players happy, whatever about the fans.

Like that's pretty much their attitude, right? So from RC, we could make them like golf great. Any cook, yeah, that's a win. That's a, that's just a bonus. That's extra credit. But from RC, like the complaining from the tour players of like not getting enough money or the way things are run or the tour expenses being too high

or the tour reserves being too high or any of the shit that is being claimed is like just I think it's just total bullshit like or then then fucking change it. It's your organization, right? And but it comes with a place of ignorance. Like they don't know how the money flows. All the shit that Phil is saying about $20 billion in assets and the tour only paying out 26% of the revenue comes to is not accurate. Like it's gaslighting. It's not trouble with how to rationalize the TPC network. Like I think that seems like a big part of Phil's blind spot

is like, you know, all this money's committed. Well, yeah, you're, like, it's kind of, you have to strip out the TPC network because there's shitload of costs. Well, and the other tours, right? And the other, like, the other purses from other tours, which are, you know, a loss, right? Like a loss that the tour is taking, which is again, like quit being a pussy for a lot of

these guys, like just say, like what you want to say, just fucking say it. If you want to say like, we give too much money to charity, like say that. If you want to say like, this is bullshit, we shouldn't be subsidizing the corn fairy tours. Say that. If you want to say there's a size in the champion's tour, come just come fucking say it. It's like, like, do I think, like, this is where I come back to the death penalty like yeah, there's way too many there's way too many guys with tour cards death panel.

That's the panel. There's way too many guys with tour cards right like I do not disagree with a guy like Phil or you know if speed came out and said hey man like I think we should cut this down to 75 tour cards and get a little bit more churn but But like, these guys have, they've set it up. So there's so many get out of jail free cards. So much protection. That's so much. That's exactly what it is.

And like, it's protection from accountability. From like, all right, I didn't play well two or three years in a row. Cool. You know what? I got this get out of jail free card. Top 50 earnings on the PJ tour. Charlie Hoffman has one of those exemptions. I don't know if he's used the ad or is playing to use it

or what at some point. I'd love to hear and talk about accountability when he cashes that. Top 50. That top 50 exemption. It honestly reminds me a little bit of the Twitter stuff we were talking about earlier. Where it's like, I feel like they could go to the PJ tour

who would be very helpful in explaining like, okay, just like, I work for you, like please explain like, what your issue is. Okay, that's interesting. Let me explain how that works. And they could spell it all out. And I just think it would end with like, yeah,

I mean, I just disagree. That's how the humidity arcs you go with. I mean, I think we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. You know? Like, I would be, it's a true, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Yeah, listening to some of these people.

Like, I hate the tour more than anybody. Nobody hates the tour more than me. I was shocked, they didn't cease and desist the Scottsdale Police Department. I know. I'm shocked. I think the influencers have broken contained that Scottsdale.

I don't think there's DMCA going on. I think there's a critical mass. The troops have just overrun the barrier. But man, it's like they're you know, there's there's so many things to dislike about the tour. But at some point, you know, just like come out and like talk about the issues. Don't try to just, just, you know, flame throw at him and say, oh, well, you know what? Like you guys were ripping us off. It's like, which are ripping yourselves off? Which again, I think it's still,

I think the people, not to high horse or whatever, but I think the people who are into this idea and the people who are attracted to this idea, like still says more about them than it does like anything else, like looking at that group of people, I think, kinda says all you need to know about who's attracted to this so far. I mean, the guy is like,

it's not even, like Hoffman's not even, he truly, so if you talk to, to tour guys, and I won't name who this is, but like a specific example comes to mind of this guy that just took, it was like a friend of ours, but took his own standing within the tour way, way too seriously in terms of like, yeah, I mean, they just like won't let us

like produce our own media out there. Like I would have a photographer out there. And so I can take photos and like I was gonna be on his hat because I think I know who it was. On media, I don't know if we're talking the same guy. Like I'm just kidding, that was Phil. So, so I talked to Jay about that. And I was like, man, like yeah, your media is just not worth what,

what you probably think it's worth. Like, but like they, if you spend more than a decade out there, if you spend more than five years out there, the things that become important to you, you're gonna lose perspective on the real world. Unless you have a ton of kids, like Fina. Yeah, well, Inslaid is for free. He's constantly has a new perspective coming in. But you just go in this circle where you see the same people everywhere you go, and it's a money collection there,

money collection there. And like the smallest grievance might seem like the war, like the whole world is talking about this ball rolled into the water for you. A thousand per second. Charlie Hoffman and it's so minuscule. And the second you go to plead to the public, like take your side and hey, I'm gonna run to Saudi Arabia.

Like you're gonna lose this battle. Like don't do that. The easiest thing, which I think we say this all the time, but you know, Charlie Hoffman, do you have any idea how easy it is to not watch you play golf? Do you have any clue? How, even when you're in contention, we normally, if you were tired right now,

like dog, that would, nobody would notice. And to just try to flex on the tour like this is just really, really gross. Can I read Brandel's tweets? Brandel went after him pretty good. Please do some blog. Look at the blog, you dex. Just read Charlie Hoffman's IG post where he ripped the USGA and PGA tour for a perceived oversight and a rule in the course set up this week. He accused the tour of not protecting the players and having no transparency and said, you wonder why guys are wanting to jump ship.

No protection for the players. Really, they have sponsors exemption for players struggling. Top 50 and 25 career moneyless safety nets. They have KFT where players can work their way back in the form while still paying bills. They have unmatched pension fund to look out for the players as they age. They have a senior tour that allows them to grow old

and be relevant. The tour couldn't possibly look out for their players anymore. And by the way, if their players speak up against the tour, they don't cut them up with a bone saw. As for transparency, I'll take the PGA tour over Saudi Arabia and NBS when it comes to that issue. And the only reason some players are wanting to jump ship such as Charlie San Diego friend Phil Mickelson is for money or to use Phil Frey's obnoxious greed.

I would say to reframe Brandyl's bit about the senior tour. I would say it's actually being well compensated to be even more irrelevant than they even currently. Yeah, for sure. He didn't even talk about the whole medical belief. Yeah, the whole thing. One of the guys that like, shit shit you lose your card technically you finish 145 on the money list. So you're only gonna get 26 stars

Can we talk about Phil? There's not that much to talk about. I think there's a ton to talk about his blocking. I mean first of all child Yeah, you're you're so on to something here, Charlie Hoffman about this ball rolling into the water. First of all, no accountability, no protection for the players. Phil has, what has happened with Phil is one of the saddest heel turns I can recall from any player. Big Randy's not here tonight, buddy. I think we're just getting started. Oh, I know. That's the hard part. Big Randy's, I mean, this Phil is his guy and uh, he got blocked. Randy chimed in like to comment like on this Hoffman thing to be like, yo, this is not it. Like tag Bryson tag Phil in it. Probably Hoffman's not on Twitter.

He's like, yo, this is not it. Like this is, you can't just like claim for every grievance to go, you're going to go run to the Saudis and Phil blocked him for it. And then I, we get so many reports of like, if I liked a tweet that was related to anything negative said about Phil, I got blocked. Like hundreds of people, if not thousands. And so listen, I'm proud of this. I will, I will let that, I think I'm gonna send this tweet

to down to St. Augustine for the Hall of Fame because I'm proud of it. So I took the screen grab of Phil standing on 18 T at Wingfoot and I said, Phil, two seconds after he reads your tweet and he is about to unleash the most infamous block of our period. And within two minutes of post he blocked the no leg up to an account. And it's just a, I mean, like you cannot possibly be this outspoken about things and completely

try to whitewash any one that challenges your line of thinking on this, which your line of thinking is taking hundreds of millions of dollars from the Saudi government. Like, we're gonna have some questions about this. I think Phil just respects me because he's been in the culture with me. No, I agree with that. I agree with that. I'm a competitor.

Exactly. He's your peer. That's what I'm about. Yeah, I think that's right. I think one thing last week on the Saudi stuff, one thing that was missed, I think you guys were talking a lot in the context of the audience, right? Golf fans. I think the golf fans are a lot in the context of the audience, right? Golf fans.

I think the golf fans are irrelevant as far as the Saudis are concerned. Oh, they don't care about that at all. I think it's the, I think it's the core, you know, they're just trying to normalize this shit so that to give cover to corporations to do business over there. Yeah.

Basically, like that's what it's all about. And the more, you know, so that like, you know, people enjoying Harold Varner winning, like I don't really get to work up about that. Yeah, but the only reason the corporations are gonna push back on it is if they're getting flanked from the people, right? I mean, these corporations are all pretty spineless

when it comes to this stuff. Like the only reason they're gonna spike any of this stuff is if they're getting mean tweets about it. I guess where I struggle too is from a corporation perspective, like what's the, you know, the Saudis are, like they already have their fingers in so much of our, like, you know, they own a substantial portion

of Twitter for God's sake, right? Like, you know, it's kind of like, yeah, we're already there, right? Like that's the most depressing, frustrating shitty part about it. And honestly, like, the scope of this, I'm much better at like, Twitter's made our life.

For the scope of this job though, like, I don't care about that. Like I do in my own personal life to a certain extent, but like as we're talking about the game of golf being taken over by them specifically. Yeah, I got a big guys problem with that. And like I,

with Phil, what we're about to see and what we're already seeing is, and like I said, we've seen this with the examples he's tried to cite of like, just like straight up politician lying about things in order to support a decision that's like, it's kind of like lying about the weapons of mass destruction. I mean, we gotta go to war, right?

We gotta do it. We gotta go to war with Iraq. I gotta kill my father. That's what we gotta do here, right? Right? No, the evidence is, no, that's not what it's said. Okay, well, we're gone. That's filled with got to do here, right? Right? No, the evidence says no. That's not what it's, okay, well, we're gone. That's filled with Saudi right now. Like that is, you're not gonna be able to stop

at this point. It feels like it's got 40 nations. From what I've, you know, from what we've heard, it's done deal, it's, you know, it's happening with a certain set of guys and, uh, I think the most refreshing guy of all of it is gonna be Dustin. Like when Dustin inevitably jumpship,

he's gonna be like, yeah man, they're paying me a shitload of money. Like he's just gonna be straight up about it. That's where it's like, dude, I have, like if I have to rank it, I got more respect for that. Hell yeah. Dude, like this little,

but I don't think it's an Iving little like mean girls act that the fucking other losers are doing. I don't expect it as, I don't think it's gonna be that easy for DJ though. I don't think he, I don't think you can go take their money and act indifferent to what they're trying to do.

They're gonna have some messaging that they're gonna be trying to send through you. For sure. And I think he's gonna do it. Yeah. I'm saying I don't think he's gonna be able to play cool guy on this. But also DJ, DJ will do it in the most apathetic.

It's gonna be trans-juiceless. I don't wanna give DJ a pass for this. No, it's gonna be so fast I don't want to give DJ a pass for this. No, it's gonna be a pass. I'm not giving you a pass. I'm just saying on the relative to his compadre is here. It's, you know, that's the least shitty. It's still shitty. Right?

You know, I mean, shit, let's just put it out. Like, what are we hearing? I want to get to a quote, Tony Johnstone, who's a broadcast, I believe. This here are a couple of tweets that we're going around today. It said, you work in a job you love for 20 plus years. You earn 20 to 100 million and have a pension that would last two lifetimes in the option to keep working at 50 and earn a boat, oh, more, when you're past your competitive best. Do you think the company, no, you invent some BS story to try and disguise and justify

the fact that you're a money grabbing, disloyal in-great, who will prostitute yourself for a better offer as your talents decline. Is this growing the game or business sense or just unadulterated greed by unprincipled, venal mercenaries? Sick. Sounds like, that sounds like the epitome of late stage catalysts, right?

For sure. I'm gonna get mine and get the fuck out. So what, what I was feeling over the course of Phil just like block, block, block, block, block, block, block, and look, does it really like personally bother me? No, of course, but like the idea that somebody that I wouldn't say I looked up to, but like I watch play as a kid and like have rooted for at pretty much every stop,

he's one of the things that I has made me want to root for him and I look, I've kind, we've heard the bad stuff about Phil But it's kind of been like he kind of is on the hot crazy scale like he's he's not enough like he's done enough fun stuff that makes you Overlook like some of the bad ones He one thing he's always done is every fan that is every y'all his name He's given him a thumbs up and acknowledged and like that is what has helped make him extremely popular player and To like legit throw that all out like in a week or in the last few weeks is super heartbreaking. Well, there's also been that same token like taking that step farther of people saying, hey, is this a this is all an act?

Is this guy the biggest phony of all time or is this truly who he is? And I've always said like, all right, you know, you do that for 20, 25, 30 years. Do the same thing over and over again. Like that becomes who you are, whether it was at the start or not. Bit of the Garth Brooks spectrum. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, I mean, shit, if it's performance art, like he's been doing it for 30 years, it's who he is, right? And, and I think now on the flip side of that, of seeing all of that crumble away, you're left with thinking, man, it all was a bit

and like it feels so fucking cheap. And I don't even wanna moralize, well said, all the money stuff specifically, because like I have no problem, he has done all of those things for 30 years that you guys just described. He's probably wiped out and bored of like being Phil Nicholson on the PJ tour.

I get that and if there were some like Harlem Globetrotters for him to like go join and just say guys like the PJ tours not for me anymore, I'm going to take a massive paycheck over here. I hope you all have a great day. Like I'm going to be doing my thing over here. That would totally be one thing. Or if he was just like, hey, I'm going to be an exhibition golfer and I'm just going to play you know, a couple of these matches every year and I'll do some, some commentary. And for that, that means I can't be a PJ tour player and I get it.

Like, that's, that's one thing. But for him to just like machine gun, everybody that has like built him up into what he is over the last 30 years on the way out the door is really a huge bummer. Yeah. And it's wild to think like, man, like how much do you need this money? Yeah. He's not. Yeah.

If you said this to, he's certainly not acting like a guy that that doesn't need it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and I, like I guess that's the thing. It's like, let's say he did really well with this money and saved a bunch. All right. You got 120 million in the bank. And I'm not saying there's a, there's not a difference in 120 million and 200 million.

But at some point, it's like, you know, like, are you will, like, what's your legacy worth here? I don't know, I hear so many. I think we're finding that out. I hear so many stories about Phil investing and saving a lot of his money and not throwing it away on gambling or anything like that. So.

But you know, then like, just on top of that too, it just, it feels like, it just feels like boredom too, right? Of like he's been living this life. And at some point it's like, man, fuck this, like I'm tired of doing this. It feels like the textbook definition of selling out to the 100X extreme. And that's what I'm saying is like,

yo, even the selling out with I could be cool with. But doing it in this way is like truly outrageous. And I think there's probably some, I mean, I think we're deep, deep, deep obviously into this because we follow it so closely all the time. But I still don't even think like the vast, massive bulk of people that are fill fans and that have gotten the majority of those thumbs up, even like understand all this is coming down the pike yet. Because it's not like something you're gonna hear about on the broadcast and the state of the media,

I mean, I know there's been stories about it and you know, but the way the internet moves, like everything just kind of goes in quick cycles and kind of goes away. It's like, I feel like going to go chamber, you're right. I feel like we are bored of talking about this because we've been talking about it for like a year, but this is what we've been trying to like wave our hands about is like, yo, there are massive organizations

that might completely change the entire spectrum of men's professional golf here. And like, it just still doesn't. It's so disconnected from results or from, yeah, from the competition. But just trying to say, I mean, now to move into kind of like some of the stuff we've heard, if you want to get into that, it's like, we're not talking about like 15 years down the road. We're talking about like later this year, like PGA tour players, who you are used to seeing at PGA tour events, are going to sign with a league, like started by the Saudi fucking

government and play events in America for a completely different league. That's what we're talking about. That's going to happen. I don't know if it is going to happen. It really seems like it's going to happen. The information out there as of now is that there would be six events this year, four of which are in the United States. The way the courses, you've heard the courses,

the courses, the two of them are the Trump Bedminster, there's a derailleur, there's, I feel like, which that has been reported, the Trump ones we reported that a long time ago, like this is all information that has been there, and the problem with all of it is like, we're not reporting this because it is subject to change because the whole way this thing is working is these enormous, enormous smoke screens that are being thrown up in terms of two, I know a story of what happened in Saudi Arabia last week where one person was playing in a practice round with two other guys,

those two other guys are going to be on a team together. This is the concept is going to be 48 guys, 12 teams, just like the original PGL concept that they copied 12 different captains, three of the captains are going to be Phil, Bryson and Dustin. Those are the big pillars behind them. They're going to be the getting the big $100 million contracts, the remaining equity. Yeah, plus equity. The remaining nine captains are getting blah, blah, blah. Player B gets a three year deal player C gets a two year deal player D gets a one year deal subject to relegation all of this stuff. So you know, two guys are on a team allegedly together. They play a practice round with guy who they're like, hey, come be our fourth guy.

And the guy's like, okay, well, I don't know, whatever. And then by the next day, it's like, hey, I heard you're on the team with so and so. And the guy's like, what? Like, I talked to them about it, but that's not even close to what's happened yet. And this whole thing is just working on this extreme timeline of an event being at the end of June is like, what they're talking about in Philadelphia,

allegedly, that I just don't know how this thing starts without having the chicken and the egg problem or like how you get guys signed on the dotted line by you know, Bryson De Shambot has at multiple events. He said it in Saudi Arabia. He said it in Capalua in Capalua. He said the Sony is going to be my last event on the PGA tour. He didn't even end up playing Sony. He has played. He did play farmers, but then in Saudi, he said he is no longer playing on the PGA tour. He told players that. He did play farmers. But then in Saudi, he said he is no longer playing on the PGA tour. He told players that that's what he said. Do I believe that yet? I don't know. If he goes and turns up in plays in an event, do not hold that against me.

He's not playing Genesis this week. He was on the the commit list for Genesis is no longer on it. Now he withdrew from Saudi Arabia by claiming a wrist injury. There might be more story to that. I don't know, but it is influx, but this is the things that are being said and the things that are happening. I don't think all decisions have been made, so you can't like report on anything like that, but the information is I know it

from very reputable sources. That's where things stand as of now. We've heard, like I think, because I've heard this from people, like we have multiple sources on this as far as shout out to CRISPRSort. Yeah. You know, like Philly Cricket, you've got the two Trump courses.

You've got Centosa over in Singapore. You've got the Centurion Club in the UK and then you've got the Polpit Club up in Toronto. Yeah. Those are kind of the six. My thing is, if you get, let's say you get 12 to 18 top tier or, you know, kind of twilight of their career guys. And then you get a few, you pick off a few of these B players. Are the D players can be like dudes that you're pulling off of the Asian tour that like, no, I've never heard of. That's what I was going to say is like, how many do you need for critical

mass, right? And like, yeah, I mean, if you like, why not go to like, honestly, this is kind of something we said, like six months ago, right? Is when you get into professional golf, like the difference between player A and player B over, over a lengthy stretch, definitely over a season is like very visible, right? The difference in an 18 hole round of golf is not very visible, right? Like the line is very, very, very thin. To the point where it's like, you know, if you float a couple of, like honestly,

if you're looking for de-players to fill out the league, like I don't think you're gonna have to look too hard to find some like struggling, and you know, quote unquote struggling, like even going to Cornfair, guys, going to Euro tour guys, going to Asian tour guys, and just saying, hey, we'll give you a million dollars guaranteed to come fill out this roster. That's why it's like, man,

I don't really know how many they need to sign. I don't know the number that we heard, that our sign is like somewhere between like nine and 12, right, it was something that we heard from a couple of people. And again, who knows how much of this is true, but like putting it out there because, you know, they're scheduled for June is like what they're aiming for,

and that's coming up very, very quickly. So, the point, I just think it becomes relevant as like Bryson, you know, doesn't play the Riviera. And again, it might be totally injury related, but just watching what these guys do as we get into like the heart of the golf season, if they're not playing events, like is that why? And I think all those are pretty fair questions based on everything that has been going

on. And what he's saying, like, yeah, he's, so he's told this to tour players. Again, Bryson is, all we document this is full of shit. Like, I don't necessarily believe him when he says that. I think he will, you know, for lack of better, who's out and probably show up at an event before the Saudi league kicks off or whatever, but he's telling people that he's like, he's that into this thing happening. And it's so obvious with him and feel like that.

Again, that's how it relates. Like him and Phil replying to Charlie. God, Kelly, this could be a sentence. It's so obvious by his replies to Charlie Hoffman's Instagram post that like they are writing for this thing. The dumbest possible timeline of the multiverse we're living in right now. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, and then, and then add to that like the the PGL guys like they're, they're still sitting up for their waiting in the wings of like this is essentially a trial balloon for to, to use the Saudis to see, hey, is this the, you know, how's the torg going to react to this? Are they going to band guys? Are they going to, you know, what you're talking about, you know, limiting tour cards and stuff like that earlier and making things more like premium for the top players. Hmm. I got a two and a half hour podcast you can listen to. If you'd like to with Andy Gardner talking specifically about a proposal that would benefit the top 48

players on the PGA tour the most in a league like setup. They would that could work with the PGA tour like how much more does that look appealing? It's rumored for this fall, right? Like for, you know, to kind of stand that up. The best thing that can happen, the only good thing I think from this for golf fans that can happen is and people talk about the Saudi side leverage things will improve for the tour. Things will improve things will improve. Now for the golf fan as of right now,, things will improve for the tour, things will improve, things will improve. Now after the golf fan as of right now,

like it may improve for the players and the PIP and all the money that has come from that. But like you want to talk about things improving for the fans, like using, almost using the Saudis as leverage to come to the tour to be like, hey, something needs to shake up here. Here is a way that it can.

Let's explore that is something that is on the table. So forcing the tour to evolve is the one upside of this. a way that it can, let's explore that is something that is on the table. Forcing the tour to evolve is the one upside of this. Now the problem is if it evolves into just looking more like WGC's. Well, that's what we keep saying. Watered down version. Yeah, and that's what keeps saying too,

is like the tour in its current structure can only evolve so far, right? Where they can't just hand checks out to guys. Like that's the one no-no that they can't just hand checks out to guys. That's the one no-no that they can't do with the way that they're set up. They have to be a membership organization where everybody's treated equally. They can evolve the TV product, I'm sure. They can evolve their media aspect of it, but they can only do so much, and they've bent over backwards repeatedly now to do the PIP and the Play 15 and the Windom rewards and all this all the 15 sounds

like the NFL kids outside. It does. You guys ready to move on from that? Please. Okay. The only thing that I think is worth is worth pointing out we've got the job. Oh, there's one more thing.

The only thing that's worth pointing out, which I think we did last week too, is just all the guys who aren't attached to this as well. Yes, you know, I like Rory, Rom, Spieth, JT, Kankley, Moorakawa, Hoveland, Wolf, I guess Wolf played in Saudi, but like, you know what I'm saying, there's still massive amount of critical mass, like,

with the PGA tour and with San Bern, with the current structure a decade Did you say sorry? And there's a difference between playing the Saudi event and being in the Saudi Gulf leak. Yeah, which I don't think Sanders in I don't think that's gonna happen Which I mean thinking too about the evolution of the Saudi Gulf event like less than 18 months ago they were they were Scott Pelley was was was it Scott

or Keith Keith. He sort of got a Keith. He's like he was he was he was championing this event and encouraging European tour players to go play in it right. So you know we even talked about the strategic alliance too. You know, we're just coming on the hills of the second in a row, Ross Al-Kama. Sure. Yeah. The championship in the class. We got a whole other hour dedicated to that. You guys want to circle back on a few other check-ins from the waste management. We didn't talk about canley. The guy that almost won the tournament a lot by or you know, many times I just wanted to say like is is his amazing, amazing play being a little bit overlooked. I would say based on that reaction. 100%. I just I man. Yeah. So this is a me

problem. But like, yeah, I don't have too much more to say. I just super good man. I make a Goldman Sachs joke every time I see him. He has not finished worse than 11th at a golf tournament since August. He's come from Justin Ray. He's consistent not hands. Yes. And this is prior. He is a hunt. He was a prior to Saturday. He was a hundred and twenty five hundred par in his last 28 PJ tour rounds. Twenty six of which were in the sixties. You imagine me a hundred and twenty five under par and like a fifth of that. Like, yeah, 125 under par and 25 rounds. And then shot 68, 66.

So 28, 28 of 30 rounds have been in the 60s. I mean, it's just, it's a realization of potential. It, you know, it's a little slightly late bloom, you know, I think. Health, health too. Health has been a big factor, but I mean, it's the biggest thing for, I feel like I've learned from playing with pro golfers and being around them and everything is repeatability is just a word. I don't hear a lot talked about in terms of,

there's corn fairy guys that hit it as good as Patrick Cantley does. They're good shots or as good as Patrick Cantley's, but his repeatability is completely different. And that's just to to watch to stretch that out over a huge scale of play like this is remarkable. But putt had great this week, just, I mean, yeah, couldn't get it done.

Only finished second place in an incredible field. I saw Capca. Capca, I mean, I think I've been kind of sleeping on him just because he's been playing hurt for like a year. It's kind of a little frustrating. Hard to. Frustrating. Tasmium.

Follow him week to week because we don't know really what we're gonna get. But like, I've kind of forgot how it can be really fun when he's, you know, back healthy and playing good golf, which has not happened. He claimed he's a good, I've been playing good for a while. And like, Porter tweeted as like a reason results, Miss Cut, T2018,

Miss Cut, Miss Cut. It's like, yeah, I mean, maybe, I don't know. Maybe he feels like he's been striking it well and he's put all together. I guess. I guess he, he's quotes earlier this week about, you know, this is almost like it's a real sport in this arena.

It's so exhausting. You just can't that himself. Can't not. I had a good time watching him. I'm with you. It's, I have no expectations for him. He doesn't really, I don't live and die with him, which is where I think it's just when he does fun stuff

It's fun to watch, you know, and he always got what I like horses for courses place at this. I mean, I need to lock in my bets Like for next year at this place. So, I think Kevca's a really good fit for Brooklyn. I don't know why small greens good. I'm like great iron player. It's straight as fuck know why small greens, good iron, like great iron player. It's straight as fuck. Um, that was kind of a reason for putting him on here to make sure we talked about just like just remember like don't every one, every major he's won. He somehow slipped through the radar going into it. And like, I don't think I'm going to fall for that. Once. Full, full, full me four times. I think he has horses for courses. Hadecki. He is a true, true

horse for course. Um, he finished. He, T8, true horse for course. What do you finish? He T8. T8. 13 under. He gave it a little threat in there. Gooch coin was kind of up and down. It's volatile market right now. I mean, could go way up tonight with all the crypto ads. Tons of crypto ads. I need to check to see what it's doing actually. Hose coin, not to be confused with those coin. Top Hoke almost went back to back, Loki. Don't really know what to make of that development, but that's some

things. Martin Laird, another horse for course. I tried telling you guys desert fox. I know. I tried telling you. I had him in all my draft Kings line up. It was it was the one where I was just like, you know what? I think this is going to have it. I didn't have it. It was great. God, I had to go and can't lay this week and somehow didn't win money.

I hate that. I know. God, I know you're pulling for me. Billy Hose starting to, starting to listen. Really good golf right now. That's worth noticing. Just in time for the floor to swing here. I feel like he could be a predator.

The one thing I did wanna bring up is, Ram, I think he's almost like a buoy. Oh, God, a lot of people have been saying that. People come out to me so many people. He's such a buoy. He's like, guys like a. Guys like a Booy. You can't sink him. You cannot sink him. What was that lady's name? Molly something? The unseekable Molly Brown. Yeah. I don't know if she was real or fake. I think she was real. She's actually on the Titanic, I think.

Is that right? I'd be ironic. I do not know. Or Norton, Norton T6. Yeah. That's worth money. Maybe one of his best PGA torsion. We got Torg Zand. Yeah. I'm struggling to straddle this line of You know kind of wanting to get on him for not winning a lot yet to protect my female spot, but I Don't know. I don't know what to do with that. I really don't like it. It just doesn't pass the eye Solly brought this up Earlier this evening and you know, and he's like, oh, you know, we don't need to talk about that now Let's let's keep unpacking that. Yeah, let's wait. I know I literally brought this up earlier this evening and he's like, oh, yeah, we don't need to talk about that. No, let's keep unpacking that. Yeah, let's wait.

No, I literally brought it up of like I literally said what I just said. Don't try to make me out that I've tried to bury this. I just I don't know what to do with it. I really don't. It seems like obviously he's an incredible golf, but like he came out in one decent amount early on. I think he won four times before he was 26 or something like that. And hasn't won, I know the Olympics counts, but like hasn't won a tour event since. Olympics doesn't count. It's been like 12 years.

Oh, okay. I'll count it. Yeah, it counts. I think it counts. And Justin Rose won a tour. Some of the tour championships don't count though, I would say. Correct. Greenbrother Brailly counts, because it was so distracting

with Jim Justin. I don't know what to make of it. I really don't. It does seem like he gets nervy down the stretch. And I don't say that about a lot of tour guys, but like that put on 18 was not a good putt. The way he played the 18th hole at even the Olympics that he won, not great.

It just feels like there's a lot of standard moments accumulating on Sundays. I mean, I was boggy free today. I don't know what to do with it. I really don't. It's really good golf. It seems like it's, it's really good golf. It seems like he's been on the bad side of the draw with a lot of his finishes. Um, and I don't know what to do with it.

I don't know where I'm at with JT. Like JT played his last 35 holes this week. Bogey free. He was positive stroke skin pudding for the week, I think. No, he was minus 2.8. He was positive today. On the tour website. That's, that might only be today. Um, come on. He was positive today. I want to tour website. That might only be today.

Come on. He had a functioning website, guys. Come on. He was second in Strokes game T to green for the week 60th in putting, which was eighth worst of anyone in the many. He had a ton of greens, right? Yes.

Yes, a lot of greens, 55 of 72 greens. That seems good. You're you're got phenose seems like he's in a great spot. We're worried. We're officially concerned. We're concerned. Miss cut it farmers, which he should have won. Miss cut here, which he should have won. I mean Tony's what 35? Not young. Yeah, we're concerned. Listen, you know the bones all like Phoenix double up his line. He's 32. That's a lot. Which used to be a golfer's like the literal prime. I don't think he's too old. I don't think that's the issue. He goes through these spells. He did this last summer after a Torrid West Coast run. Yeah.

He struggled through the summer and then he got it back and he won a event in the fall. I don't know if you remember that. He won the Fed. He won the FedEx St. Jude limited field. That was such a great moment for Tony Fede, out at Memphis. I forget that. I heard that out of broadcast recently. I'll tell you who's playing some good for those that don't know that he won the

Northern Trust, which is now the FedEx St. Jude, the playoff event. So you'll hear that be referred to in the future guy that you know, move from 164th to 119th in the FedEx cup. Louis used to isn't he's he had a really, really strong here last year. And I think like I could see him banking another two majors over the next three years. I don't think he's I don't think he's he's going away anytime soon. His game plays extremely well at majors. I don't think it that sets up that well for the

PGA tour. He doesn't do the birdie fest, but when I mean T you know T14 67 69 this weekend he's a guy who has for a blandly run. If I'm the Saudis, like I'm going after guys like him. Yo, you don't want to play all the time. And like, I already played World's Schedule anyway. Yeah, I agree. That's a good point.

We ready to do a little kind of what's in the bag segment or a check in on, I want to check in, you know, we've done these in the past. Callaways are presenting sponsor of this segment. And you know, we've kind of called them the What's in the Bag segment. We're going to turn it around a little bit more this year and kind of do like a check in on our various golf games at different times. And you are welcome to tune out. If you are an hour and 40 minutes into this podcast and you've had enough.

But can I just say how refreshing it has been to bump into DJ Pie at the range of Jack's Beach on the frequent this year. Totally reinvigorated golf game. Just tell me about the spark frequent this year, totally reinvigorated golf game. Just tell me about the spark that's coming, it's coming to your golf game. Cawla, right? 100%. Yeah, well, not 100%. But a big chunk of it. Yes. Trying to rebuild my golf swing. I think I've been trying to play the last, I don't know, decade, with just like a shitty, a really shitty golf swing. And that's not very fun to do. We were joking about it on the course this week. It's all like, I forget what happened on three.

If you missed a drive or something and I was like, just for what it's worth, try playing for a year straight from that position on every single hole. See how much you really love getting out and playing the game. Yeah, I talked about it. I think a couple weeks ago, but probably just a little bit of burnout, just a lot of talking about golf, a lot of watching golf, a lot of editing videos about golf, a lot of playing golf in front of the camera, a lot of not a lot of playing golf not in front of the camera. And that doesn't really fill up the tank. So it's just needed to take, take some time,

took a little break, this winter, which was great, and then competitive starvation. Exactly, and then discovered our Lord and Savior, the Cowaswing. My guy, I caught one more at 28 on Instagram. I know he's been thinking Betty celebrities are following him now and COVID, they got his posts, would recommend, I just wanna share the good news with everybody.

So I want to say open up borders in Japan, like we need to just fly over there. Exactly. I might not, I might be too nervous, but I've just been watching, been watching his videos, trying to, you know, not replicate it, but learn what's going on because he's touching on a lot of what has been wrong with my golf swing, which is just way too overprotective, swinging left, trying not to smother hook it and just hitting the weakest, grossest, most unpredictable fade. And when it does get slotted and it is a nice little tight cut, then I can play a little bit, but when I can't, it goes off the rails really, really hard.

When your wedges are on, they're on. And trying to just be a little more consistent, trying to see the ball go straight if not a little bit right to left even and the bad boy. Yeah, getting the bad boy under control. And we've done a really good job. It's very, God, it's very close. I hit it. I was Texas solid.

I'd never do this. I was texting Sally about my around the other day. I was like, you know what, man? Like, it's got a penalty stroke here, three pot here. Boom, boom, boom. Like I hit it good enough to shoot 73 today. And I turned 73 into 79. And that's very frustrating, but also like-

Process. Very invigorating. Cause usually whenever I shoot in the 70s, it's like, I'm holding long pots. So I'm doing all kinds of things. I'm like, no, I legit hit it good enough. And the rest of my game, let me down. I do maybe have the chipping yips, which is an issue

and we're gonna watch this space for further updates there. Got something that I'll help you out soon. Oh, God. Yeah, we'll touch on that after the video comes out. But yeah, man, it's just, it's good. I have an thrilling time playing golf. And the other thing, honestly,

like it kind of loops into the, you know, what's in the bag segment is the new three woods are truly like electric. There's just type of what kind of brand are we talking about? We're talking about the new Callaway Rogue ST three woods. You get a 15 degree or 16 five. That's a great question. T.C. You ask a lot of great questions. And did you get the Rogue ST max or did you get the Rogue ST Max, or did you get the Sub-Zero? No, the Max, just the regular guy.

I was texting you guys, I took it out to the range a while ago and just it's one of those clubs that like, this might be a backwards way to talk about this, but it's one of those ones it's like, man, they need to roll back the equipment. Cause like some of these swings were not as good as this. Like that's carried away farther than it should.

That swing was not very good. And so that's that's my selling point. I guess it's like the video game set on easy. It's going to like tell blow. Oh, I don't draw in there. He'll blow a little fade in there. Exactly. Right.

Putting my specs in Mara for for all the new stuff. I mean, God, and I'm going to go specs in tomorrow for all the new stuff. I haven't gotten it yet. I'm gonna go with the X-Forge Dyerns. Mm. There, but it's coming around. Triple diamond, not sure. Yeah, it's time to go back to Steel Shelf and be a big boy.

Yeah, you know. It's a little cute. It was a little cute. Your setup was a little cute. That was. In the past. So that's been awesome. And then I need to get my wife is is starting to get in

the ear about some new clubs as well. So we might need to talk to shot 50. She shot 50 for nine holes. Broker previous record of 64 shattered shattered. Strokes are melting away. They're they're truly disappearing and that's with some of the worst plots we've ever seen as well. So once the putting gets cleaned up a little bit, but I think she's been in my ear about talking to the Calloway folks as well. So she might be doing some shopping on the lady side. I will say we have a limited edition Calloway Rogue ST, fairway wood head cover that you can buy

on the Calloway Golf website. You can go to the, at your order summary page, enter code NLU and it'll add the head cover to your cart for free if you order a brand new Rogue ST2-3 with the DJ Pi was just raving about. I think I might have to do that thing. What's the thing that you got Hannah doing with the operation 36? I might have to do that.

Like, just start from scratch. My game is such a dark place. That's why I've just, I've been going fishing instead of playing golf. What's operation 36? It's like you start 25 yards from a hole in the middle of the fairway, and as soon as you go around nine holes and 36 shots or less, you move back to 50.

And once you do that, you move back to 75. And then you, so Hannah did it from inside 25 yards, very first try. She made a couple of eagles in there. Sure. And yeah, it was fun. Like I legitimately don't think I could break 36 if you drop me.

Like right now, I shot 25 yards of be top. I do it from 50 or 75, 25, I don't think I do. I shot the round of my life and then promptly forgot how to play golf. That pretty much sounds like it. That pretty much sounds like it. Anything else you guys wanna add on anything we got going? What's up come in this week?

Good video stuff this week. We got two videos from last year's Gasparilla Invitational that's gonna get people all ramped up for Little competition solid playing in this week. I believe they have live scoring. They have all kinds of things That people can follow so we've got some really good shop-by-shot videos from last year. They've kind of been sitting in the can. We figured we would wait until this week to roll them out and kind of tie them to this year's tournament. So I know that's a very very big deal. Your master's I believe you called it. And yeah, so you can both watch Sali's whole tournament

from last year. I won't say whether it's 36 or 54 holes, whether he made the cut or not. But and then you can follow him on Thursday Friday Saturday? It is Thursday Friday Saturday, hopefully, if I make the cut. Don't know what to take. You know, we had a nice Thursday game that included a 40 on the... I almost paid homage to the cat, had a 40 on the front, and then missed a 10 footer on the last hole that would have been 30 on the back.

And I've never shot 30 before, but games are mixed bag right now, but we'll see what happens. That's the beauty of competition. So we'll have a trap draw coming in the Super Bowl reaction, which judging by this, it looks like it's a ball game. Yeah. Yeah. Before they go and watch it.

Let's go do that. The Bengals are leading as we sign off here. But thank you. Couple of shout outs, Brandon Matthews. Oh, that's right. One down in Columbia and Bogota, young hitter, battled some injuries last year and a half or so. And I know them a couple of times up and scrant and went up there. He's from kind of northeast PA. And he legitimately like he hits it farther than

anybody I've ever seen. So he has not there's a lot of guys that hit it far that don't have the nuclear codes. He has the codes. Yeah, he's crazy. He has not. There's a lot of guys that hit it far that don't have the nuclear codes. He has the codes. Yeah, he's crazy. He has all the power. I was texting with TK Kelly. I was like, yo, great plan TK. He finished top 10 and there at altitude down there and 17th hole. So Brandon finished birdie, birdie, eagle made like a 12 footer for eagle to win by one. TK was saying like Brandon was he was flying at like 373 75 the last the last few holes just like in like flying at that. And then like he had he was chipping into the 17th hole is a 440 hard

poor for. What a joke. Just just congrats to him. We had a great had a great time work him. Yeah, Sky's the limit. I mean, he kind of guy that I think he gets out on tour and get some, some consistent reps out there. And if people don't remember the story of he had a putt to win on the, was the, let's you know, America tour in Argentina a couple of years ago and there was a fan that yelled out in the middle of his putt. It ended up being a person that was attending that

was had special needs. And he handled that with just nothing but class and grace went up and gave the guy a hug afterward. And if you remember that whole story, that's same guy. And so congratulations to Brandon. That's fantastic news. So Riv week upcoming. It's going to be a great one.

Yeah. Influencer week is behind us. All the activations are activated. Which I think is good. It's almost like the, I think all the activations just run together. When there's, when there's all that many activations, there's kind of no activations.

It's easy to tune them up. What do you think this Netflix episode is gonna be? Oh my God. I think it, it helps the hit. I think, I mean, I think the same brighter eggs might be within the first five minutes of the first episode. Yeah, I think you're gonna see that. I mean, I mean, they got it all.

They got the hairy higs. They couldn't, it's been confirmed. They got the hairy higs and Joel Damon thing. They got the whole in one. This league, man. This, this 501 C6. Yeah, I, I hope I don't think, but they're not following Seth, right? Or I think they're kind of, I think they have a bunch of, I don't know, I'm, I'm

not. But I think they have a bunch of, I don't know, I'm de- I want to ask, but I think they have a bunch of guys confirmed to do like, bull sit down, like we'll go to your house, we'll do all the other stuff, but, I mean, they have cameras out there following, following everything, so, and they can use tour footage too. Yeah, so hopefully they got some pretty intimate looks.

Can't lay definitely feels like the guy that, he wins the race and you don't see a single, or know can't lay even sky like they feel like they win the racing. You don't see a single shot of them. It's a win so it's a finishing T5. I think that up is great. This event will be heavily featured on that if you're trying to drive some fans to this event or to this sport.

So thank you everyone for making us a part of your Monday or whenever you listen to this shortly after the Super Bowl It is greatly greatly appreciated I know people were very excited for this episode. We were excited to do it and Gosh, yeah, I can't wait to see who Phil blocks next so thank you boys for joining and everyone have a great week. Go watch range talk Absolutely, cheers I'm going to be the right club today. Yes. That is better than most.

How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Expect anything different. Expect anything different.