No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 529: Thursday Players Recap

Episode Date: March 11, 2022

Rain delays, the Golden Man, the Sideburn Bandit, and a lot more from day one, including Fleetwood, Varner, Hoge, and more. Plus we chat about the Hall of Fame, Monahan's presser, and everything else from a rain soaked Thursday.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm sorry, Randy. I'm nervous. It's live TV. I get anxious when we go live, man. There's a lot going on here. How are you big? I'm great. I'm even better after that new intro.

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Well, I think first and foremost, is we got Randy out in Denver, Mr. Unlimited's coming to town. Everybody's buzzing out there, right? The town's a buzz TC, but I'm not sure if that's the biggest story of the day, I would vote for weather. Expound. But weather was a lot of it.

There's a lot of it. And you know, it had an effect on the course and I think saw a grass play and very gettable here in the evening time after the delay. But it might be this way all weekend. So I'm hopeful that it's, you know, as far as possible maybe for the whole field. But do we even have to forecast for tomorrow? Every time I refreshed it, it did not look good. Good chance of thunderstorms in the morning.

Have you switched to the weather bug yet? Because you were a couple. No, I have a plectic at dinner last night. Oh my God, it's going to be a Wednesday finish. They're not going to play any golf tomorrow. It's going to be completely rained out. Was he? He was beside himself.

I thought he was going to start crying. I did cry when I got in the car, okay? No, you know what? One of the worst Twitter's is, is's just gonna start crying. I did cry when I got in the car, okay? No, you know what the, one of the worst Twitter's is, is your weather app sucks Twitter. Sorry, I gotta get on my fishing weather app. Okay. It is the most localized.

It is to the foot. Every forecast I looked at from this morning on, it nailed it. They're pretty lucky today, actually. There was a whole band that just went south that if it was, I'm sure like, just south of St. Augustine got absolutely wrecked today. So I think this was kind of best case scenario for them today.

Of course, actually played pretty decent considering everything. I mean, there wasn't just puddles of water everywhere. It is officially the backspin invitation or as you call it, the Ripper Magoo classic, I think it is. All right, Pete Manner think it is all right people that was a moment no one's ever burned hotter or faster than the

memory maybe the true to career speaking of burning hot and fast hailed varner by the way i feel like every time he has like a seven under round go and he's got a triple bogey just looming there only ball the water i think adds of the last 30 minutes of the show. I don't know if somebody else hit one in, but Harold Varner's the only, he goes in there and seven under hits one in the water, and makes triple.

You want to talk about the rough around 17? I don't know if we want to get there. Do you want to get there already? Sure, I'm saving that for the climax of the show, but okay, we can do a good time, man. Brand, I mean, Randy, I know you're gonna ride with us here. Just put those preacher hands up. If you, if Holler, if you hear me,

it's a complete disgrace. The collar around the greens, Cody and I were just visibly, visibly upset. We were walking around this morning, watching a lot of players play 17. And you know, you, you soften me a little bit, the hill in the middle of the green, I get it. It's, you can only control your spin to a degree.

I get it on 16. When you're landing into a 45 degree hill in the middle of that green, I get that it's going to come back, but yeah, man, shave that shit down. Or as I, you know, I like to float out on Twitter as the Piawski plan, I think a lot of people are calling it,

would be just to take chunks out of the collar. Like either arbitrarily or consistently, I would love to see some mini golf action going on out there. Is it gonna catch a tough to rough or is it gonna catch a smooth spot and just go right through the gate into the water? And the reason I say that is half joking, but half serious in that,

what about that fucking golf hole makes you think that we're talking about a fair test of golf. It's a complete amusement park. Just like, just completely lean into it, man. And I hated seeing some of those balls stay up because spin control is, I think like legitimately, it's golf, wonk stuff, but it's like one of the most interesting parts of the game.

You hear Tiger talk about it all the time. Can I control my spin, can I control my spin, and watching Harold hit those two balls in the water, I was like, yo, is he not like know how to do that? What the balls don't really spin anymore, so full. These guys are getting crowned anyway. It's, yeah, to me, they could do it kind of like a chicane, you know, have it in certain spots.

That's interesting. But yeah, like I get it on other holes, I get it on 16 that guys wouldn't go for it. Totally. If not. This is a 17 out of a liar. Perhaps guys wouldn't go for it. They might lay up down the left side on 17.

Of course. And then. They lay up to the drop area and then try to get on from a shorter area. So there's no rough. But I mean, like the fact that only one ball went in the water is just insane. It is, but it also kind of might take away from it. It's no other. But I mean, like the fact that only one ball went in the water is just insane. It is, but it also kind of might take away from it.

It speaks to when you have a soft, soft, soft, soft green and no wind, like literally every pro hit the green. And Harold spun off the wind in the water, but just to speak to like, skill and how much conditions matter to something, when the wind is blowing this weekend, there will be tons of water balls. Tons. Friday, we're going to have the wind's going to kick up south, there will be tons of waterfalls. Tons. Friday, we're gonna have the wind's gonna kick up south, south, west, gusty winds, 15 to 25.

Actually, that's Friday night. It looks like it's gonna be pretty calm tomorrow, most of the day. And then Saturday, 24 mile an hour wind out of the west and 14 mile an hour wind out of the north, northeast on Sunday. It's all 38 mile an hour gust for Saturday. Yeah.

The West is straight straight down on 17. Out of the West would be like, no, like in off the left. Okay. 17 faces north, northwest. Okay, got it. Okay. Big, what was your, what was your highlight watching of the day?

Either the Tommy Fleetwood flop shot behind. Oh, God, I forget what hole. Tommy was in some weird spot today. Yeah, that was cool. Do you trust Fleetwood? Is this sustainable? He's a type of lead here at six under. Is that rhetorical?

I mean, no, not really. I don't trust him at all. You know what I was watching a lot of. I was watching a lot of the Cantlay, Rom, Hoveland, Feature Group coverage. Hoveland was really playing well and then, like, completely gave a back coming in, doubled his 16th hole and bogey to his 18th hole,

which was very surprising. He looked so good and even missed a couple short birdie putts. That was disappointing to me. So, you know, I struggle with like a huge, huge surprise, but I thought Havling and giving back three late was probably the most surprising to me. Can we talk about, they're starting to steer back into it, but Hovelin's chipping in short game is still a huge liability. I feel like they raced pat. He had one good week and everyone was like, oh, he had chipping problems.

He's bunker. He got it figured out, but no, he does not have it figured out straight up. He hits a lot of bad chips. The bunker plays horrendous. It's been her initials last two weeks, but even when he, like, from normal chip shots, it is still pretty, pretty bad. It's his only, his only flaw to this point because he rolls it great. Obviously, he hits it incredible, but he cannot be trusted around the great. He just shouldn't be, he, he can't hit it there.

He shouldn't be hitting it there. Which it, it seems like I'm curious what the, all the rain and conditions are going to do. Like, Cody, the shot that's gonna stick with me today, we were not there for a ton of time, but probably saw four, five, six holes of people playing, watching Patrick Rogers drive it in the right rough on 14, and like both of us thinking that he hit a shot up on the green,

and then quickly realizing that he only advanced it, what would you say Cody, Nine feet, 10 feet. On a good 10 feet. It was good 10 feet. Was just like that stuff when it gets wet and soupy and nasty, like chipping around there is gonna be super, super interesting. It's gonna be an interesting championship.

And right now it's probably, it's gonna be as boring of golf as we're gonna see all weekend, all week. Which I'm almost like excited about just resigning myself and letting go of like it should be firm, it should be firm, it's like, it's not gonna be firm, let's just enjoy what we have. It's, you know.

It seems like from the waves, like as far as the splits or the, you know, the morning, late guys, like it seems like it's gonna be pretty fair between the two waves. I don't think it's going to change too drastically between tonight and tomorrow morning like the guys like they're going to get a pretty similar experience either way and then yeah, it's going to get colder shit on my god dude and then into Sunday. When chills that's the guy. Go ahead, Randy. I was going to say I can live with today DJ. I'm with you. You know, have your fun Yeah, I'm with you know, have your fun, stop it close to the whole, but you got to promise me wind and written like some some biblical stuff this weekend.

I think it's going to be a windshield of 25 on Sunday morning at like two times. Yes, windshield 25. Chris Chris, Chris, I have to take it back to the Midwestern morning. There's no one loves the windshield more than the more than the Midwestern. Chris Kirk's going to have to give his son an extra warm back. I mean, I'm calling it a town of the windshield. 25. They're not going to play.

That will be interesting. They're protecting these guys. If it's below, like it's not below freezing temperature yet, you know, the windshield's that cold. Will they send people out? For sure. Yeah. After.

Speaking of protection, there were some, some drive-by's today on the broadcast. Hey, they, like, I don't know if they had the mics just absolutely juiced by the water, but every time a ball went in the water. DJ, drop that shit! It sounded like a body going into the water. It was like getting Honda. Remember, the Honda couple of years ago, and everybody, I guess it's a lot of times,

on 15 when people hit it in right by that microphone, it's the best. Charlie Hoffman got a drive by. That was a little revenge out, if you will. I forget who this said in the tweet in, that asking if the goldman has already been talked, is the already in conversations with the Saudis, but that was quick.

I wanna know, sorry, we got a pause to show here. I wanna know, I gotta know your initial reaction to see the gold man on, on screen. Of course, this is the, the mixed reality experience that we saw out there. Is mixed reality in AR, there's two different things? That's a great question. I feel like I've been, where's VR fitted?

I feel like I've been living a mixed reality for the last like 10, 15 years. The last fucking place I need that is on my golf coverage. We, DJ, answer your question. You know what? I first saw, I first saw all solid as retweet of that tweet asking if the gold man had been in talks with Saudi Arabia. And I was very confused. I swear to God, my first thought was like, it's all accidentally retweeted. What is this talking about? And then I saw the highlight, the clip of it. And it's just, I mean, what do you say?

I wouldn't be surprised if the tour tries to sell an NFT of it. That'd be like one thing you feel is like, Brought to you by Optim or the proud partners, some kind of weird What even sponsored they just like we're gonna bring you this dude that by the way Trevor M. I'm in reply to this like yeah, by the way terrible swing also exactly you literally built this thing from scratch and you gave him a terrible swing It was otherwise a great telecast like totally of course and players always it always is they had a couple things where Before they like when they were coming back they played last year's final round. Little bit too long where like,

I wanna go up and down the range, you don't even need an analyst. Just go up and down the range with the camera and show me different swings of guys warming up, how they're warming up, almost like how F1 does like Pitplane before that. Like on a restart like that, that would be fascinating to see all these guys,

how they warm up, what they're doing, like comparing contrast to their swings. And then it seemed like they kind of came out of the gates and had to squeeze in a few totally random, like, superfluous graphics that, you know, and stats that it's like, no, just, like, everybody's on the golf course right now. Just show it to me. And then they did, you know, like, they're showing every guy in the field. It seems like, uh, they always did, they do that every year. They do. They do a lot of the like, and

now with that shot, we have now shown every player in the field. Look at us. Look who did it. And like I get that at the US Open or the PGA championship where you have like club pros and, and, you know, qualifiers or whatever. Like these are all these are the top 200 players in the world. You need to see Hayden Buckley out there. Yeah. Roger Sloan. That was, that was news to me. That one was definitely news. I thought the last thing on the on the gold guy. No, I got way more. You were you were talking about the size of his package. You got the Norman package.

Well, this is what they always said, right? About the trophy was like it's a big I'm they made this whole to do about how is a big amalgamation the face was was taken from parts of all the phases of past shabby's norm and of course a record setting performance at the players back in the day possibly you know that's where his contribution to the gold man when I don't like right like Greg uh dormant did not win the players championship. He won the administrators championship. Of course, of course.

What's, uh, what's really tough is I feel like on this pot, this here podcast, we've been just, like doing nothing but supporting the tour over the last two months. About like, Hey, I don't know where these players think like all this money's coming from. There's no extra money. They, they're distributing it all to the players. Then you see that.

It's like, fuck, man. Come on. You're making us look kind of stupid, I don't know where you found the money for that, but like, just put that in the purse. They might be trying to create the $20 billion of NFTs. That's possible. That's good to say. If they've got $20 billion, you can pay whatever they pay to have the stupid golden man made. I don't like to think the gold man came out of the volunteers. I think that would be a worthwhile use of... but I really like to think the gold man came out of the volunteers. I think that would be a worthwhile use of until you're told otherwise. The gold man lives he lives in the moat at the global home.

And nervous. What's the year? They need us to walk over to the 17th team from his house, from his from his home under the moat. It's Tom Hogi, like one of the best golfers in the world. He's a very nice player. We're, I mean, I don't have a ton to, I don't have a ton to add.

I think that says it all. We could be looking at, if he wins, he moves the number one in the FedEx cup. He's currently third right now. That's, which that was news to me as well. It's one of the biggest stories in golf right now. We've got Fleetwood and Hogi, it's minus six. And then you got Kramer Hickock. What I will say about Hogi, Cody, I know you can back me up here too.

TCU nation was out there this morning. Like he's just getting loud cheers, guys dressed in all purple. I mean, the keeps the purple by the pound. That's what a lot of people are saying out there. The Hogi fans are in charge out there. What else did you see out there on site? You said something really insightful earlier. I was just wondering. Well, I was going to allude to that one massive, massive takeaway. I was watching the ROM, can't lay hoveling group a bunch. And I mean, those guys are just really good. And you heard that here first, but the, because Randy needs a lesson to tell you.

I know exactly. Randy, I can confirm ROM's super good. I know you wanna hear that, but. I mean mark him down for a T7. Right. No, we were doing a, Cody and I were doing a hit with a massive friend of the program, Lou Turner, here first coach news.

LT. LT, who was asking kind of like, hey, what's the big takeaway? And we were talking about downstairs, and whether it's COVID, whether it's just, I mean, obviously I don't like work for the PJ Tour and travel to a bunch of events anymore. So I don't actually see live professional golf

all that much, and it just gets so flattened when you watch as much as we watch on TV. And just like, honestly, man, I know how stupid and pointless this is, but just seeing it in person occasionally is like, God, these guys are so much better than even I'm giving them credit for a week to week on the podcast. It puts in perspective the shot to 15 feet.

Like how good that looks from the fairway. Like, oh my God, dude, like that. On TV, it's like, man, kind of cheat and and left a little bit on that one and you see it in person like, no, that was like a perfect golf shot. Well, like watching the one that stuck out to me was watching 15. And listen, I know the Greens are soft. I know it's early in the morning. I know there's no wind, all that stuff. But knowing how much I've struggled on 15, seeing, you know, now how much Cody and Ben have struggled on 15, seeing how much other people have struggled on 15.

It's, the pin is like kind of front right. There's a little like kind of humic bunker there right in the front right of the green. Then there's a tiny shelf and then it all completely falls away. And Ron and Hovelin both just step up and like hit it to eight feet on the perfect shelf and they both miss the pots and that's where it's just like, no, that never would have shown up to me on the scorecard

of just looking like, oh, I part 15. Could have got that one maybe. And it's just actually settling in and looking at how good, they're kind of forgettable shots are, is a good reminder that I probably haven't done enough over the last couple of years. So it was great to see that.

I will say, like, worries terrible. Would you like to expand on that? We watched him play one whole today. That's all you need to say. That was, I mean, like he, 309 carry, long left, it was the Icarito Miss, long left on one weird, weird spot to chip from. This is such a comfy five.

Yeah. It's, that's the best way to start the round T.C. That's actually true. Probably, probably didn't make dinner taste any better though, Randy, if I may say it. That's all right. I'm curious to see how the guys, you know, I think enough guys, like, there's probably

25 guys that haven't even teed off yet, but the guys that have gone out or the guys that just started their rounds. See how they had kind of adjust a little bit in the morning and because it seemed like a lot of guys were like, they're going to have to add two, three, four yards to their numbers to account for the spin. It seems like, and it seems like as the day has gone along, guys have gotten a little bit better at that into 17, for instance, and I bet it gets even better tomorrow. Like the proximity to the

whole will be closer tomorrow morning than I think it was. They need to pull out dust off some of the justine read conspiracies. Just jam every pain about two feet from the back edge tomorrow. Well, I want to say how much can you control your spin? The pin on 17 was like, that was tough to get it back there and keep it back there. I want to see some like eight irons from 130.

Like instead of a pitching wedge, like hit. I have, I have, I have nearly stuffed one to the back pin there on 17. And he's walking back to the bag and he goes to the spotter. And I could be wrong on this, but it very, very much looked like he said to the spotter, like that was eight. And I think it's a 146 shot. He probably hits eight irons 169 yards.

All the according to, uh, Azinger, that, you know, he probably hits this eight iron 135, 140. Cause, yeah, Harvard hit us nine irons from 162 and Zinger's know, he probably had to say it iron 135, 140. Yeah, Harvard hit us nine iron from 162 and Zinger's like, he's gonna have to smash this when he get it back there. It's like, dude, my carious, 160 with the nine iron. How is this astonishing to you? Will you apologize for how good Lonto's shot into 17 was?

No, because he missed it on 18. He missed the putt and then talking about Mav. I mean, Mav missed it. Off tee shots from Mav. Like, it was almost like he was the putt and then talking about Mav, I mean Mav missed it. T-Shots, it was almost like he was trying to go over where Bryce was going to be. Why am I trying to take the putt? There were some bad T-Shots on 18 today. Sergio took it out over the water, tried to hit a cut, splashed. Adam Scott and the same group splashed it twice.

I don't know how many balls went in the water on 18 today, but God damn it, that's an uncomfortable hole. Ball flying far because it's so humid out. That could be it. It's flying an extra yard because of the humidity massive validation in the film room from Every riding for the move the tea back into the lab course, which would be great Yeah up on the up on top the hill would be secretly do that on 18 or on Sunday the fact that they haven't done that yet Is is crazy to me also go go watch the film room? It's a it's a two-parter that we put up today, right?

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but I think ultimately as a company, we had to support it. I was looped out of these conversations. I would like to speak to Kachev for perhaps funneling this one elsewhere. As our CFO, it must pain you to know that we're having these discussions behind your back. Any more word on the rules incident with P? It was all alleged.

I know that some of the capital j guys are gonna gonna ask about it here in the uh... post game but yet that the i got uh... word from a source that was uh... embedded with the group i think that uh... uh... no pun intended uh... stick in his fingers everything you might as well stick my finger in there uh... i think i'm not sure if it was having to do with his drop on four,

which looked suspect at best. He missed over to the right of the hazard, and then somehow dropped like, you know, in the fairway. And then, but I guess, Webb Simpson and Fina on four, he dropped in the fairway. Or he dropped, he dropped way over. He dropped way over to the right. Yeah, okay.

Yeah, sorry. Shout out to Cody for putting a P's reaction to T.C.'s entire diet tragedy. So anyway, Web Simpson says to Fienau on five green, he says, hey man, did you see that back there? And Fienau was like, yeah, I did. And then Web was like, should we ask him about it? And so that's all we know.

That's all we know. So we're to, hey, see something, say something, right? Sure. And maybe out my time. I'm trying to take the field. By the time you listen to this, the information may be out there. And then P flick this ball off on, uh, which is the whole, which is a, which is a classic. What if any other player did that?

We'd wildly celebrate it and I want to be consistent on that. How about the pro pro flip it off the ball? I've never seen the seven second dump visually. They tried to blur out the middle finger. Do you have that one, Cody? It's okay. if you do not uh... and then p p uh... you know total heat check on him

with the uh... weather delay i mean i thought that was total bullshit i thought it was until i realized he was in the shit over there he got to mark the ball and then he gets a go pick it up and then go place it and i'm sure and he hits right up towards the front of the green out of what look like a horrific place of course is all ledger this is not a if you're watching this live on screen. This is not Anything we did. This is what happened to the golf chaddle screen from this image of him flicking him off Straight into a try to divert the visually dump it. I've never seen that on the

Dump disaster never see see see people are dying, dying to know if there are any back channel communications between you and Lady J. No, I've offered, I've threw out, throwing out a couple wine bars to go to. I know she's a big shard fan. I've got a couple of really nice bottles of shard. Probably down in Pontavigir, because that's all the old people down there.

Drink like the hard nation. Putt of Reass California shard the Oki shit with the maloactic fermentation. No, but you know, I would offer up, you know, royal palms would probably be a good place. I'm willing to go down to known a blue if she'd like. I'm willing to go to, you know, a variety. I'll even bring her to my club. Keep following up on that. I want to see where that goes.

It's some diplomatic back channels. Yeah. Cody, can I tap you in for a second? Yes, sir. I'm curious. So, Tron, you mentioned we put a film room up this week of Cody and Ben playing TPC Sawgrass for the first time. How are you feeling now that you've played it,

now that you've walked it, now that you've watched literally the best players in the world play, what was your takeaway today? Very impressive, because it's not the best course in the world to try to play for the first time on camera. Yeah. Very difficult, especially when you haven't played on camera a whole lot.

What they showed me is like, hey, if you hit the fairway, you're first of all, step one complete. How many fairways did you hit? Probably. I think that's on the high side. But it's amazing. I mean, they have complete control of their golf ball. They know where it's going, nowhere to miss. And when they get in trouble, they can scramble from from anywhere. It's nuts. We don't call them pound mistakes. What did Ben say about you? He called me like, oh. No, he said your goal will be great for, he's like, what I would want as an aging man.

He didn't stride call you an aging man. He didn't call you an aging man. Yet it can, I can see how you would take it that way. But that's also like the, the genesis of what of Randy's greatest takes of all time, when Neil was pontificating about a very similar thing just like you know I'm just I can't wait man just to get older I'm gonna get really KG I'm gonna really scale it back I'm just gonna I'm gonna find fairways and and Randy's like well you like you could do that now if you wanted to and like you're just not ever gonna do

that and that's I feel that way about that a little bit. I would say, I got a lot of messages, you know, from people around that are like, well, what would a blah, blah, blah shoot at TPC Sawgrass? And it's like, honestly, one of the courses with one of the widest ranges I would pitch, because, like, if you're off, if you're a scratch player and you're off, 84, I think, sorry, Cody, thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you. You can attest to that.

Cody said he would be happy to shoot 76 in the pregame exactly. Which is, I got literally, I could play a little bit better and you would have shot 76. But that's the thing, just like, give Cody, you know, wait, one more time. Now I see, it's the worst golf course in the world to try to pick like a target line off of.

And that's not, no, I had an amazing caddy and we'll maybe get to that part, but it's not his fault people. But that's the thing, if he has the driver going and he has a little better like sight lines, he hits eight fairways instead of two fairways, like it legitimately saves him six, seven H shots.

And you have to go around it, it's like really, like somebody can tell you, hey, hit it here because this is bad, but like you have to go walk up there and see it and then look back and back like, oh my God, there's so much space up here. If you're playing it for the first time, it looks so intimately.

I posted that picture earlier in the week from 15T and it was going kind of nuts, everyone's like, oh my God, where do you even aim? It's like, well, it looks a little easier in person also, but it's all visual, that's the whole thing. Which was also the good part about, again, we're keep pumping this film room, but that's the other good part about watching,

watching it with Matt Everey, who's played the golf tournament a bunch of times, or it's like, oh, 15's not hard. Oh, that shot bend just hit. Yeah, it's not hard. And like, they also a fader, they, they just like see it extremely differently. Yeah. Because all this visual, you know, a lot of the visual intimidation that works on, you know, 10 handicaps just doesn't work. The bunker that's 160 yards off the tee that cuts across on seven, for instance, or on 11 that, you know, is not even in play, but it just fucks with your eye. Yeah. Like the beginnings of the fairways are kind of narrow and raised a little bit to make

the whole fairway look either partly just like, you know, hide some of the fairway and to make it look way more narrow than it actually is. We were not ready to disclose yet, but we were shooting some content last week with some extremely, extremely good players. And one of them after the round was like, you know, had played really well, but had hit in the water on two. And they were kind of telling like all the other players like, oh, yeah, you know, I hit it in two, hit it in the water on two and made double.

All the other players are like, oh, there's water on two. Like, yeah, I didn't even see that. And that's, that's a bit like how these guys seem to attack the, attack the golf course. Hey, Big, how'd you do your first time around TPC? I've never played my own ball around TPC, which is, that's a source subject for him. He's played in some scrambles or some, uh,

I had to play a scramble. Yeah, you might, wrong day big, you might not break 100. No offense. I would say the same thing about big. You might not break a hundred no offense. I Would say the same thing about myself Not none taken you know what honestly this the whole discussion remind me a little bit of TTC and it sounds like Maybe the that and the Charleston Muni or like the two places where good luck Very super similar test Charleston, he me so hard.

We buried a very important story from today. We haven't talked about yet. Oh, the pup that we now suck. We'll address phenose sucking. Okay, which you guys are gonna have to clarify a couple things on that point as well. But Will's out tors is made put the four footer that is the cova putt. I said this on Twitter, look like he was signing his name with his putter.

That's the perfect discreet. He was doing Zora. It was, it was, it is the very much, like before he hit that putt, as soon as I flashed him, it was like a, here we go, here we go. It is one of the most exhilarating things in golf is cutting to his allotures,

getting ready to hit a four footer. He's hitting absolute bombs off the tee. Which is how to show the front view of his swing or like a 45 degree angle and you get way more respect for the power he generates than you do down the line for how much he uses his body and like how much he leans and hits up on the ball. That was, I'd never seen that angle of his swing. I was just going to say, I, of course, totally agree on the how captivating it is to actually cut to him and watch it because we keep saying this like Sunday has the potential to be a complete all-timer and

Dude Zalatoris in one of those last groups with We got some live music being pumped in here. I don't think we could play live highlights I don't think we could play live highlights. We'll cut this source. We'll cut away with that. I was just talking about how much of an all-time day Sunday could be, and throws out a torus in one of those last groups with $3.6 million on the line, coming down to 16, 17, 18, trying to make some three, four footers on spiked up greens,

like wood watch. He's after legacy, not leverage. But he's so freed up on 12 footers, spiked up greens like wood watch, wood watch. He's after legacy, not leverage. But he's so freed up on 12 footers, like a stroke looks perfect on 12 footers. And it's very like a 15 footer right after that part. It might be like a chuck knob like needs to move to third base kind of thing here. He could get emantly like,

I think Chip went into, which could be a new strategy. Something Zinger was asking, he's like, what happens when these guys that are using the claw or the both hands next to each other grip? Like those grips, like what's the next step? I'm like, you start putting left handed straight up. I used a crank.

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Do you remember when I used to call into his show? Oh yeah, we'd be in like the Chick-fil-A drive-in. They gave us like a special VIP call-it-line. They're like, oh yeah, just call this, producer would put you right on the air. I don't know if we could call it, it was great. I don't know if we should say much more. We might get canceled because we're so close to them. Well, that was before you know, listen, we didn't know if we could call it, it was great. I don't know if we should say much more. We might get canceled because we're so close to them.

Well, that was before, you know, listen, we didn't know. We didn't know all that new stuff came to light. This was all pre-9-11. Exactly. This was post-popsicle. Post-popsicle. Speaking of it's popsicles, do we want to talk about the cat and the hall of fame?

Well, can we talk about the sideburn bandit first? I mean, listen, I think that's a pop culture thing. 90s are back, man. Sideburns are out. I mean, who has gotten hit up by the, everybody allegedly there's a barber in the locker room there that is carving people up in there. It looks like hoveling got got, max got got JT.

I want everybody to keep an eye out for anyone else that it looks like just got absolutely carved up right on the sideburn. So that's the whole thing, right? There's a barber chair in there and there's a barber. It's like, it's like just got absolutely carved up right on the sideburns. That's the whole thing, right? There's a barber chair in the room. Yeah, of course. And it's like a colonial, too, right? The barber chair is actually a great story of, I think it's the chair that moved from

TPC or from Sawgrass Country Club. The year that they had the total blow up at the players, the horrendous data scoring average was like 79 or something. J.C. Steve lost his hat and it rolled down the fairway and hit his ball in the green and got a one shot penalty. And players would come in after the round and sit in the chair and like tell the tale of the story.

It was like having the conch shell. Like you would sit down in the barber chair and everybody would now we're focused on this guy. It's great. I mean, if things are too easy tomorrow and then the forecast gets easy for Saturday, like they might need to move the third round over to the Sargass Country Club.

That's an interesting thought. I think they're gonna put the pin in that, you know, the flower island in the middle of 17. That's where they're gonna put the pin on Sunday at this court. If they're starting to threaten like 20 under, they're not gonna let that happen. You wanna talk about the cat? What's, what's, what's going on the leaderboard

a little bit at first? Okay, because I think we got a tie-up bow on this. We've got Hickock, Neiman, Mitch, and honor bond. Pond. At 5.67, they're all 500. Blocko continues to play great golf. Sam Burns getting a little podcast bump potentially. Yeah, 68 for him.

Hey, BAM for other alert. Maybe a little podcast bump coming up. Taylor Pendrith, rookie, first players appearance there. He's 400 through 16. We mentioned Varner. We got a group. Varner is Alatoris, Usthazen, Cam Smith. I didn't see Varner Bogey 18 to tough fit.

The Booe, Ram, Vegas at minus three after the MLB workstoppage. What did he say? That news that news broke right as the horn blew to two out of restart the round. I think we have a comment from the shlong, Adam Long as well on the workstoppage, which is quote, enough is enough. He backed channel with his guy, Manfred,

and got him back to work. Let's give back to work boys. After we threatened him with his suspension, like it's exactly. As long as the players are locked out, he needs to, you know, he needs to stand by it. So. You wanna talk Fina, Randy?

I'm ready for this conversation. It's not been good. I don't need to talk Fina. I'm just, I'm curious if you're, I think it would be classless for us to, to say, you know, anything untoward. I'm willing to have some kind of stuff. He's not playing good.

Yeah, he's not playing good. I thought you were bringing up that we made a bet and that you were gonna pay it off. That's what I thought you were gonna bring up. Well, we were going to. We got hit with the sideburns bandit. We were trying to grow them out this week and they just disappeared.

So that's, I assume that's why you had it on the agenda, but if that's not the case, then we can talk about whatever you want to talk about. Oh no, I just didn't know if he's like, still a good golfer or not. That is actually to be decided, because I don't know that. Okay, are you nervous?

Are you nervous about? 50 second in the FedEx Cup right now. Which, there's a lot of, like Dustin's like 189 in the FedEx Cup. Listen man, you are what your FedEx Cup is. I'm not sure that you are. Thank you. Are you getting nervous about the bet?

No. Dipping your chin in the, you know. I'm not, I'm never nervous about having to pay that off. What was the bet? I forget. If he wins, then you and I need to do the harsh, the harshest we can possibly do. Just chin only for the NIT. Go T for the NIT. and I need to do the harshest we can possibly do,

just chin only for the NIT, go T for the NIT, and if he doesn't win, it's all he has to do it. That's like shit that I would do just for fun anyway. Well, I'm not nervous about ever having to pay it off because they don't pay off their facial higher bets. Oh, we'll do it. I paid off a bet this week. You did.

What are we doing? Mutton chops, fowdo mutton chops. Like, I can't grow those. Not with that attitude. I'm not sure how to pay it off. You can grow some, you can make an effort. At least I like to see an effort. We'll get it on the count.

Guys, Fina was tied with Brian Gay right now. It's not good. Not a great golf course for him, but he's not been playing good golf outside of this. And I am concerned official. He is beating Adam Scott though. What does that mean? Not a great golf course for him. Yeah, the most agnostic golf course for it. I is beating Adam Scott. Whoa. What does that mean? Not a great golf course for him.

Yeah, the most agnostic golf course. Golf course attest just like. I mean, it's not like we'll eat all levels of all skills in the game. It's not like where I would pick him to click. He's not like, his skills are not standing out on this golf course. Like, more a coward we're amp to watch play

this golf course this week. We're not like, oh, this should fit Fino really well. Like Fenix, yeah, I would think so, but not this, so this golf course. Okay. So, uh, the guy that got real golf course out of the guys that did that just teed off. Morokawa was sitting at like five feet away on number three for, for bird. He bird. He birdied to. He's a 12 feet bar there. Max, Max is bogey. You don't say that. Bogey free through two as well. He's coming. You know, so it's gonna be a fun morning.

What time are they going back out? 715. Ooh, really? Which we'll see about that. CT, that's interesting, cause the first time over, 645 today, they're gonna get some rain overnight. They're not dumb in the morning.

DJ and Kepta are both two under through three. Mm, and then Thomas is the first one here. He's coming out Guns Blazing too. I think he's three under through four or something. He gave one back. He's two over through six. Okay. You guys want to talk Hall of Fame?

Monahan Pressor, what do you want to go first with? Well, still a little Hall of Fame. I guess a preface with two things. One, I greatly enjoyed the cat's speech and it was really, really cool to see him get a little emotional and talk about his childhood. I don't think anybody can really get enough of that. And two, it's just deeply fucking so bizarro twilight zone to me that the best player in the history of the game goes in the Hall of Fame and like nobody seems to really care at all. and so bizarro twilight zone to me that the best player

in the history of the game goes in the Hall of Fame and like nobody seems to really care at all. Because it's so premature, he's 45 and like, I don't know, it's just, it's just I think says a lot. I think it says a lot about like the state of the Hall of Fame and how much people actually care about it and whether the PJ Tours should be in charge

of the Hall of Fame or not. And it just brings up a whole litany of weird questions that just, I think, yeah, go ahead. Are we in the nest? Of course. I don't think it was listening. It's good. All of the fame's are kind of stupid.

Like, does any Hall of Fame make you excited? I mean, I think baseball or NFL, at least there's, you know, you debate who goes in and who doesn't go in. And I think it's, like, I think it's cool that Marion Hollins finally went in. And then, and then they talked about her role in the 16th hole at Cypress,

more than they talked about her playing career, or, you know, the development of Pasitampa or any of that. There's a freaking pine here. She didn't just discover that hole. Yeah, exactly. You know, but, but I think it just seems so hollow because everything with the golf hall if I'm seems so artificial, right? Or like Cooper's town or Canton, those places seem, it seems legitimate, right?

I'm not being facetious. I'm not trying to set you guys up for an answer. But have you ever actually gone through it and like done a full day? Yeah, yeah. Okay. The first couple of times I went, like working for the tour, I used to get very geeked and Randy, you can make fun of me if you want.

I used to get very geeked about like, oh man, I got a free pass to the hall fame. I'm gonna go check this out. And there's some legitimately like really, really cool stuff in it. The problem is it just like, it seems the most depressing place in the world. Yeah, it just seems like such an afterthought

from a like geographic perspective and where it is is not like, it's not like such an afterthought from a like geographic perspective and where it is is not like it's not like you're driving somewhere cool. It's not like you're making a road trip to like some amazing place that has some you know story place in the game and be like the exhibits just last for you know they're featured exhibit that's supposed to rotate ended up lasting for I think I think that Bob Hope thing was in there for like nine years. Something like that. Because like a USGA doesn't want to share stuff and they don't really get the weirdness is like in golf, you don't, in baseball, it's like, of course,

Major League Baseball is going to run the Hall of Fame in football. Of course, it's obvious who's going to run the Hall of Fame in golf. It's like, well, you know, you're running for those exactly. It's like should should the USGA run it? Should the PJ tour run it? Should a gust of national run it? Should the A run it for those. Exactly. But it's like should the USG A run it? Should the PJ tour run it? Should a gust of national run it? Should the R&A run it?

Should the PJ of America run it? Should an independent body run it? All this like, there's just so much weird. Should the DP world tour run it? Competition, all these country clubs, all, you know, they all have their own little archive room. They all have like, it's just, there's just so many competing interests

that it's really hard to do anything impactful or comprehensive, right? Somebody in the comments is saying there is a buckies near off. Which is great and I should stop by next time I'm there, get some brisket tacos, maybe some caramel corn, you know, things like that. Can we just, I think nature, I got a question for you. Wait, real quick, I just want to say, I think Steve and A Smith put this perfectly. We don't care. We don this perfectly. We don't care.

We don't care. We don't care. Okay, that's an energy I have. But that bums me out because golf, and again, Randy, feel free. You can make for, I'm serving myself up here. Golf, along with baseball, should be, like, just leaning on complete, cheese dick history.

It's like, it's all just, historically, all of those things should be so, such an all you for golf. And it's just the fact that they turn it into this like depressing, empty, vacant, like reverse mortgage, empty, like commercial real estate. That's the problem, I guess. So shitty.

That's the problem right there is, you know, and that's why I think it's ironic that Finchham went in, and this one with Tiger, which is likely the last induction class. I guess they'll do one next year as well, like in the current location, but they've been there 25 years,

they're at least just ends next year, the bonds. And, but like the fact that they, that fit, like that's, that's me as Finch from the legacy. That tells you all you need to know about the guy, his speech was fucking terrible, by the way. Like the fact that he tried to make the Hall of Fame

into this craving, like a greedy real estate play, right? Which is right off of I-95 in the middle of nowhere down in St. Augustine. And it just doesn't make any sense. It just feels like 1994 in real life. We're going to absolutely just milk this thing for all its worth. Yeah, and like the, God, that hotel down there is the most depressing thing in the world.

It's like a WGC in real life. Yeah, it's like a WGC personified, right?, it's like a WGC personified, right? And WGC came to life as a commercial real estate. It should be called TPC Tim Finchham. But the fact that that's what it's grounded in. I also inherently speak to what they were after with it, what their motivations were for it, instead of just it being about the game of golf.

It's like, no, it's a way for the PGA tour to flex on everybody else and make a little bit of money in the process. I would push back on like that's his legacy because I don't think anybody cares about it. Like that's kind of the whole point. It's like nobody thinks about it at all. So I think like raising purses, it's like the WGC is probably going to be his legacy. Like the WGC's in the Hall of Fame or essentially his two legacies in my opinion, because he

had Tiger Woods, man. Yeah, he steered the ship and he put people in body bags, but I don't know. I just never have gotten any sense of just substance from him on anything. He's not evocative of anything having to do with golf. It's just about money and being a businessman. Question for you. Would you rather have the Hall of Fame entry be like up to writers or a nebulous vote, or would you rather do it? Take a page out of the LPGA book to where there's extremely black and white point system where we know we can track all the players in real time as they reach a

a Hall of Fame standard. I don't know what would be more fun as a PGA tour fan. Let me just make my stance clear. We don't care. We don't care. We don't. I want to answer your question with a question which is, is your power out? Yeah, why do you need lights on at number two? I think what's sadder. But like, I hate to keep like being pessimistic about this but I think what's so telling about this entire thing is the fact that like we don't even debate

like who goes in and who doesn't because nobody like gives a shit. You know, it's like, but that's what like who goes in and who doesn't because nobody like gives a shit. You know it's like that's what I'm saying what a point system be more like I don't think it's that I think it I think it's it starts with like the physical location and I think moving it if it was if it had a place in Pyners which I of course like I know it used to be or in St. Andrews if it was like a place that people were very much like, oh my God, that is a reverential thing. I can't believe like that's such a massive deal. Then I think all the other stuff follows.

Then like you start to care about who gets in and you start to care about the minutiae of qualification and all that stuff. But right now it's just like, like I literally was looking at the YouTube channel just trying to watch the speeches yesterday and I saw that like Davis love the third was giving a speech. I was like, oh, I don't know.

Is he in the Hall of Fame? Like, oh, cool. Maybe he was being inducted or maybe he's already in or I like, I don't, yeah, I don't even really know because like who cares? And that's such a bummer when literally like, I don't want to take it like too seriously, but like when Tiger fucking woods is going in

and like nobody cares, I'm like, God, what a waste. That seems like such a massive, massive, massive bummer. So right now, it's hard. I'll just say it. Right now, I think it's hard because golfers careers just go so long, but there's not like a good time to do it. And like, it almost feels premature almost always when somebody goes in like tiger going in. It's like, well, gosh, I hope we're not done. And that's where 50 feels like a relatively clean spot. I mean, even Tiger alluded to it in his speech. He's like, you know, I want to thank, you know, Jay Monahan or Finchham or whoever for bumping it up

from 50 to 45. Like, who chooses? It's the... They change it. I don't remember exactly, but it used to be like a, I think it used to be a panel of writers, and now it's turned into more of like an industry executive type panel that maybe contains

one or two writers on it, but. Good question that just came in from Eric Thielen. Will Sheffler get inducted when he hits the eligibility age next year? I just, I hope people are into it if he does. That's what I'm saying, you know? He is undoubtedly gonna be in it. It was cool. I mean, I'm saying. You know, he is undoubtedly going to be in the game. It was cool.

I mean, like, I think different from years past, it seemed like some players actually went. Like JT, Bubba and Spieth and my guy McKenzie Hughes. It actually helps having it at the players, right? Like if you want to do it, when's it for players? It was in the global home. Yeah, it wasn't at the Hall of Fame. It was in the global home.

I didn't see Jack or Onica there, that they're the, uh, they're, they're both on the, on the selection committee, I guess. Hmm. It's gonna make a lot of jokes with that. Um, you guys want to talk about monahons presser? I'm not just sorry to button that up. Go watch Tiger speech. If you haven't already, I know it's kind of, you know, pretty like, again, weirdly low key for the greatest player of all time going into the Hall of Fame It was, you know, it was not quite a, you know, I consider myself the luckiest man in the world type moment It was, it was very, very, very muted. It seemed the reaction But the intro from Sam was was really cool. It's cool to see her as like, you know, not grown up But like, you know, you always picture hers like a three-year-old kid. So it's fun to see her growing into like like, you know, you always picture her as like a three year old kid,

so it's fun to see her growing into like a person. And then some jokes about, well, and then that was the biggest thing, is like, I don't wanna dwell too much on this. However, she alluded to the fact that, quote, my dad went to Comic Con dressed as Batman, which is one of the most unbelievable fucking things I've ever heard in my life.

And I don't know if you guys felt similarly, I don't know if that derailed you for much of the day today like it did for me. But that was wild. Do you think that's true? No. Really? Well, obviously he told her that.

It goes back to our podcast when you asked him and he said, hey, like what's something people don't know about you and your flaws? No, no, no, no, no, I asked him, what's an underrated great answer? What's an underrated skill you have? He's like, try to get it like chipping. Yeah, people don't realize like, I'm really a chipper.

Yeah, I'm really into comics. And he said that he had a paper out as a kid and like, would you save up money to go by comics. And like somebody sent like a DN that was like, Hey, like I knew Tigers a kid like did not have a paper out. Didn't never happen. Like find any book article anything that mentions him having a paper out.

Doesn't exist. Maybe he was delivering the financial times in a different neighborhood. That's possible. That's possible. And then I get something off my chest. neighborhood. That's possible. It's possible. Can I get something off my chest? Please. That's sorry. These tweets and shit that I see on my timeline that are like, you know, it started with

Charlie Woods is going to be, you know, a 40 time tour winner. And I just can't take it. I can't take people, you know, doing these. You've been fired up by the guys all day. I know, it bugs me, it bugs me. I hate it. Randy hates Charlie Woods, you heard it here first. Doesn't have it, doesn't have what it takes.

Charlie's got that growth, he looks like a growth, like a mega church pastor or something. He's got the three-piece suit on. I'm so in. The hair is so good. Rainy, I'm with you, but I hope you would open your heart to enjoying how cool things like the father's son were. I get that, I don't want you to focus too much

on the pessimism. You know what I mean? Allow yourself some upside. Come on. And you gotta ignore the content industrial complex that we're living in here. It's hard, it's hard to suffer. Of course.

The father's son was really cool. Did you watch any of it? I did not. I put the father's son on par with like the drive trip and part of it. I mean, ordinarily, yes. But when like the greatest player in the world has just driven his car off a cliff,

and you don't know if he's gonna have two legs anymore. And then he comes back and he's striping drives with his kid who's mimicking every one of his movements. Pretty cool, pretty cool. I'm not sure I'm gonna join you out of that loop. Pretty cool. I'm not sure enough was made of Tiger and Charlie walking in Tiger had the backwards.

Walking into the global home across the moat. Exactly, all the archers are standing down. They put the gate down for, they put the draw bridge down for the cat. He had the backwards hat on sunglasses. He didn't have a sleeve on his leg. Hark. Hark, here it is, here it is. I just, I get a little bummed out when when kids of

generational goats Like try to follow when their parents put stuff of course, and I understand why they do it, but it's just Man, that's that's that's gonna be a tough in all likelihood Disponing disappointing road to walk. I thought then I guess it's it's hard for me not to just be a little bummed out by it Oh, which I would say like not a great a great comment to make in the speeches last night. Finchum, who, like, I typically ride pretty hard for, I mean, like, working at the tour, I was telling you, like, he'd get up at the, like, all employee meetings,

and I mean, he's just, like, legitimately, really, really funny. And would just be a great speaker and everything. When he got up there yesterday and was doing the like, yeah, we did all this research about whether Tiger was the most famous person on earth and it came back that he was and the only person I'm seeing that could possibly follow in his footsteps is Charlie.

And saying that to like a whatever he is 12 year old kid, 13 year old kid is like, ah, I don't say that shit. What do you do it, man? Yeah, that was not good. That was not good. And like, I don't take it away. I don't really mind like, ah, I don't, don't say that shit. What do you do it, man? Yeah, it's just, that was not good. And like, I don't take it away. I don't really mind, like, I'm fine shitting all over Finch and because it's not like he's an octogenarian.

He's like 74, right? Of course. Yeah, like he's not, you know, but I thought it was interesting. Tiger had a, like, like a lot of anecdotes about how he got started playing golf, right? And he wasn't old enough to go play at the course, like at the Navy course. So he would go play his other course,

they gave him, you know, range balls or whatever. And then his mom would give him three quarters and two of them were for a hot dog and the other one was for him to use the pay phone to call her when he wanted to come home. And then he started coming back with more and more and more quarters. And then, you know, Earl was like, like, hey, like, where are you getting these quarters? Don't puffer quarters. And he's like, I'm putting it for quarters.

He's like, don't puffer quarters. So then he's like, so then he comes back a couple of weeks later. A hundred dollars. With a bunch of cash. He's putting for dollars. And then, so then, you know, a couple of weeks later, he comes back with even more cash.

And he's like, I told you, like, stop putting for dollars. He's like, I wasn't, I was playing a skins game. It's a hell. There's a bunch of good anecdotes. And I mean, again, it's been, you know, 30 years now that he's been in like the limelight and has been that most famous person on Earth

and just seeing him get choked up, like talking about his mom. I mean, it's just, it was cool that it meant so much to him. I wish it, like, meant more to other people, I guess, is what I'm, what I'm, I think I meant a lot. I think I meant a much to him. I wish it meant more to other people, I guess, is what I'm, what I'm, I think I meant a lot to people. I mean, I saw more about all of fame this year than I ever have. Sure, but that's all, like, you see more about the father son

or do you see more about the hall of fame? So that's the peak though. It's only down from here. Like if that's the level of excitement for Tiger, then like, then what can we really get excited for? Well, sure, but that's, like, I go back to like, people don't really care about the level of excitement for Tiger than like, then what can we really get excited for? Well, sure. But I go back to like, people don't really care about the whole fame. Like I said, the bar, you know,

debating it in the bar is fun, but yeah. Monahan on Tuesday spoke to media. I don't know if we need to necessarily, you know, read through quotes or go anything like that, but any impressions. Do you have to say from the whole fame thing last night, Monahan he's pulled tie up straight up. Like just pull your tie up.

Okay. Yeah. You're looking at the look down the barrel. Letter up from a Sartorial perspective. The tie was was down. His jacket was loose. You know, I know Randy, you you cut some flack. T.C. has been reading Shackleford's newsletter.

By the way. Oh, I love it. There's like an eighth take for the newsletter. That was the quadrilateral. It gets me fired up every morning. No, but I think, you know, and I've been in a sartorial mood because we had to wear tuxes for Niels Wedding and I had to go buy one or whatever, but I thought Jay did look sharp for his presser though.

I'm glad to hear that. What are you guys impressions? He comes out firing. I'm not going to read the whole thing, but he comes out with, you know, the PGA tours moving on. We have too much momentum and too much to accomplish to be consistently distracted by rumors of other golf leagues and their attempts to disrupt our players, our partners, and most importantly, our fans from enjoying the tour and the game. We all love so much. Thoughts on the overall tone. We're focused on legacy, not leverage. That he gets to that one. Yeah, that was a rehearsed line in the in the global home, I'm sure, but I thought it very funny that the very first

question was, yeah, yeah, Jay, that's fine. Greg Norman and Liv Golf investments blah, blah, blah, said that, you know, he basically the the first question was challenging him on like, you're very confident in your legal stance here. Like, why is that? And I feel like when I was watching, I'm like watching a guy that like has been very clearly told by lawyers like, don't say something stupid here, yet have to give some kind of answer to it. He had a project strength without being specific.

Yes. And you know, it kind of refers to the rules and regulations written by the players for the players. They've been in existence for 50 years for us by which which I think is like, Hey, yeah, like we know what the rules are. People are saying the rules are anti-competitive. Like that's kind of the deal here. But I felt like a lot of the he was able to evade a lot of questions pretty successfully. I thought that we're pretty difficult to answer. pretty successfully. I thought that we're pretty difficult to answer. So, I know I've said this before.

I hate, I'm not throwing shots. I hate throwing shots because we, we are not in press conferences. And I'm well aware that we're not showing up and asking these questions. But it's amazing the difference between asking a 400 word, 16 part question and just like putting it point blank to somebody, like the difference of what the, what's the person has to answer? Yes. And I think it was, I forget if it was Doug Ferguson or Mark Canesaro or one of those people

who finally just asked, like if Phil was able to, like if Phil wanted to play this week Woody have been welcome or not. That's where you like start to see the wheels turn. The wheels turn and like, oh my gosh, I can't just blatantly lie. And so would encourage more, just direct question. Well, and that was where he kind of got not caught, but he referred to it as we don't discuss disciplinary matters.

Right. And so I have his fill quotes, he's asked, Jay, have you spoken to Phil since all this came out and when he does return, does he need to do something first? Does he need to speak to you or can he just show up at a tournament and tee it up again? I have not, that's again, multiple questions. And there's basically asking as he's suspended, but you know, have you talked, you know, you know, does he need to speak to you?

And he says, I, I have not talked to Phil since he made his comments. And since he said that he was stepping away, like I said, I think the balls in his court, I would welcome a phone call from him, but it's hard for me to talk about different scenarios that could play out. Another question says, you said earlier, you wanted to have a conversation with Phil. Yeah, I remember crying about you without Phil's caption.

When he was ready to return, is there any chance that part of that conversation will be you asking him to stay away longer? Listen, I'm not gonna comment. We don't comment on disciplinary matters and Phil has asked for some time to step away and I'm not gonna comment any further on that. But that's not, questions are going to come. Regarding Phil, it doesn't seem very clear. It sounds like the way you're speaking as to is if he

is suspended because you're saying the ball is in his court and he needs to reach out to you before he moves on. Obviously, I know he said in his statement that he was taking some time away. Had he wanted to play here this week, would he have been welcome answer? He stepped away on his own accord after like a 30 second pause. It was a big pause. He stepped away on his own accord and he's asked for time.

He's been given that time. We don't comment on disciplinary matters, potential matters or actual matters, but every player is accountable for their actions out here. That was, it took four or five times asking it, but it seems like. It boiled it down.

Randy, direct question is Phil suspended. I think so. What kind of Mickey Mouse League won't comment on disciplinary matters, and that's so BS. I was thinking about that more today, and I know that that comes from kind of the finch of school of like, if our guys look like they're constantly getting suspended, they're constantly smoking weed, or they constantly doing this, like I don't know, we might

risk some of these financial relationships we have. That just doesn't seem like the case anymore. Now it seems like they're creating undue risk with regards to gambling and even as far as rules and fractions, right? Well, it's cool to see guys like Rory or Cantlay or whomever has kind of been in the press room this week talking about more transparency and more, you know, hey, we're totally open to doing more of this stuff because like, I don't know, it's pretty easy if you're Rory or Cantlay or one of those guys would be like, yeah, I really don't think I'm going to

get suspended. Like, I'm totally cool if you want to start disclosing these because like, I really don't see myself in that boat. I think also, one of the things that stuck out to me about Monaheim's presser was when he said, hey, I operate as if somebody's taking my lunch every day. And, you know, like, kind of like, hey, like, I know people are coming at me.

Kind of from the everyone's threats. Dispensive, you know, like, punching out of the corner kind of thing. And at some yeah, just, you know, like, punching out of the corner kind of thing. And at some point, like, you gotta, I feel like they're, they're at a point, or it seemed like a victory lap a little bit, right? Where I don't think is fair. And somewhat warranted.

It was like he's parried the Saudis away, but I don't, I think this is the first wave of, a few waves until there is more substantive change. But also like you run a membership organization with a bunch with a couple hundred stakeholders, right? And it's tough to operate where you like you think everybody's taking your lunch every day, but also you have to be accountable to these guys and listen to them with an open mind and everything like that. And, but then when you're treating everybody like a threat, you don't even among your own ranks, you don't know who's coming at you, who's a threat, who's not.

Like, how are you supposed to represent these guys and have that mentality? I think it comes down to for him, his job is to unify, like, you know, guys can come to him with like, yeah, do this or I'm going to anotherify. Like, you know, guys can come to him with like, yeah, do this or I'm going to another league and be like, okay, I need to act in the best interest of this whole thing as a group, right? Like we need, it's not in my best interest, your best or, you know, the tours best interest,

this player's interest if you go and make this way harder on everyone else. So it's viewed, it's kind of, it seems defensive a bit, but it's also like his job is to keep all of these top players together. Like that is number one goal. Like that's what makes the TV deal worth what it is. And it can fall apart. It has qualifiers in it from what we have gathered of you know, if this tour breaks up and goes very fractured way that there are opt-outs of some kind involved in it.

And like, he's doing strength of field. And doing everything he came to his power to protect that is, I think, where he's coming from on that, I think he kind of came off of like, yeah, it's someone trying to eat my lunch, kind of felt a little. It was hockey, Jay. It looked a little personal, like a little bit like,

I'm this, I don't think he meant it this way, but it came off as like, I'm the one fighting this fight here, when in reality, he did such a good job of making sure he's talking about like, what his job is, which is representing his position. Yeah, no, and I don't envy the guy, and I think he's, think overall, like, it's, you know, the last two years for a lot of leaders,

but especially for him, I've been hellish, right? Like, I mean, he's had all manner of attacks on his organization, his character, you know, all sorts of stuff, but also like, you know, like, God, they guys just gotta be exhausted. Yeah. That's what I was gonna say. I'm not making light of this situation at all, but like everything we've just said for the last five minutes and then getting a question about like Russian Ukraine, you gotta be like, dude, come on, come on man.

I can't, I just, not a lot, I can do about that right now. I do think at some point, like the tour, just cut bait with China, right? Like otherwise it gets gonna keep coming up and there's gonna be the what aboutism stuff. And you know, it's, like, if you haven't had that event in two years and it seems like, all right.

It's like everything's been okay. Yeah, like, you know, if you haven't had that event in two years and it seems like, all right. It's like everything's been okay. Yeah, like, you know, if you haven't missed anything from it, right? You know, and then you got me like sitting here on Twitter or YouTube or broadcasting this, like, shitting on like pulling up your tie. So, like, yeah, that was a chew shot. But also, like, you're the,

you're the bleeder of a multi-billion dollar organization. Like, you need to pull up your tie. Thank you for that. He gets paid a lot. Yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. A little bit of me is like, yeah, well, that's what the money's for too. Dude, I was walking with K-8 two years ago at the players, just like, you know, we're

shooting this shit and I was like, man, it's right when the PGL threat was coming about, I was like, man, Jay's job, you know, with the COVID that was starting to, you know, come about like decision making, I was like, man, Jay's job got a lot harder. He goes, eh, that's what the money's for. And even the residual money, like, Finch was still been making $800,000, $900,000 a year for the last,

817. 817, 501 C6, right? For the last, you know, however many years, four or five years since he stepped down. And, you know, I mean, right? For the last, however many years, four or five years since he stepped down. And you know, I mean, you've got a nice golden parachute there as well. But yeah, and like, I don't know.

I'll just say, I don't think these problems aren't going away. They're just gonna get, they're actually gonna get more and more concerted, and there's gonna be a little bit more clarity, like when the Saudis push the issue with this, it's gonna give, there's gonna be a battle, there's gonna be a legal battle, and then that's gonna be a little bit more clarity. Like when the Saudis push the issue with this, it's gonna give, there's gonna be a battle, there's gonna be a legal battle, and then that's gonna be taken care of, and there's gonna be clarity one way or another,

and then the PGL or whoever it is after them will operate as if, like with that clarity and go all in on one direction or another. And because I think that's the big hammer that the tour wields is we can ban you, right? And as soon as if that ever evaporates, like that's all their leverage. Yeah, that's kind of open season. Watch this space. There's a lot more to, to, to, the people out there that think it's dead,

please continue that. We're going to continue to talk about it because there's going to be some news coming somewhere down the pipe. I promise you that this is not over. So it's surely you, Jess. Anything else, Cody, we get most of the questions in from people. I know they've been fired. I'm we we have had a lot to talk about. Did you had some things on the on the can't lay presser? I just think it's a little bit of what you guys were talking about and a little bit of what I was

saying about the the transparency stuff. I just I think it's very interesting to watch can't lay. bit of what you guys were talking about and a little bit of what I was saying about the transparency stuff. I just, I think it's very interesting to watch Cantlay. It seems like another watch this space moment. He seems like a guy who is clearly, I won't say like his tone is shifted, but like, I know everybody kind of fell in love with like press conference Cantlay last year and he just kind of seems like he's interested in a lot of the, a lot of the business stuff going on. The machinations of the tools.

Yeah, I, he seems very smart. First of all, I'm sure he's got a lot of good people in his ear. He feels right in that camp of like, this is all pure like, you know, projection or conjecture for my part, but he's kind of right in that camp of like, he's probably not really in the pip,

but he's clearly like one of the best players. And I don't know, it was interesting reading between the lines camp of like he's probably not really in the pip, but he's clearly like one of the best players. And I don't know, he it was interesting reading between the lines a little bit on like his presser and how, you know, he doesn't necessarily feel like the players have ownership of the tour. He doesn't really feel like a stakeholder, shareholder, any of those things. And I don't know, just interested to see, you know, kind of follow him as he gets maybe asked a little bit more about this stuff. I'm just going to go on a limb with this one. I think he's handsomely paid for his golf performance,

make 15 million. Of course, but he still had to like, you know, he still had to, it's kind of a crapshoot of whether you win the FedEx Cup or not. Right. But I'm saying, like if he's upset about the PIP, like, I'm very fine. Like what is the non-tiger fill the most somebody got was three and a half million. And of course, of course, I'm not debating you. I'm just saying for him, like, you're fine. Like you're not necessarily putting butts in the seats necessarily and you're handsomely rewarding for your golf scare. So he's he's number two on my power list of guys I go have a couple beers with.

Yeah, we love to pick his brain. Yeah, exactly right. Randy, you're just trying to get a glory than Candle. Marcus by Goldman Sachs. You're just trying to get in there. Talk to David Solomon in the voice. Exactly. It could be, could be prime buying season here

in a little bit. Cody, anything we're missing before we sign off? I think we're doing pretty good. This was a great one. Thank you, everyone, for tuning in on YouTube or on Twitter wherever you're watching this. Or if you're listening on the podcast feed either tonight or the next day. We'll be back doing these every night after each day

finishes, even including if that's Monday we will be here to cover one of the best events in golf. This has been I'm excited. We had a lot of good golf in front of us. What's your plan tomorrow? You guys gonna go over. I'm gonna check the weather forecast. I had a blast going out with you this morning Cody. It's great to get out and just walk around. We'd love to run that back. I think that's what we're going to do. I'm taking very much. I'm taking Shady tomorrow.

Yes. We'd love to get out and maybe watch Max well. We'll distill our hammer out there and we'll see what he's got and just kind of linger around. It's great. I'm supposed to go with my neighbors tomorrow. I hope the weather comes in. It's been looking for that.

So all right. Thank you everyone for tuning in. It's been looking for it. So All right, thank you everyone for tuning in and we will see you back here tomorrow after TC says bring that smoker tomorrow Bring the smoker tomorrow. I will bring the smoker tomorrow. We'll smoke it live on the show tomorrow You got my word right here. Good night everyone cheers Peter right club, be the right club today. Yeah! That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most.

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