No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 532: Monday Players Recap

Episode Date: March 15, 2022

Cam Smith wins the Players, and we recap our observations from watching him on-site this week, what this win does for his career, Lahiri's epic week, the Berger/Hovland/Dahmen kerfuffle, and everythin...g else from the longest week imaginable.  If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat  (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA). 21+ (18+ NH/WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NH/NJ/NY/OR/ PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. Min. $5 deposit required. Eligibility restrictions apply. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. That is better than most. Better than most. as we speak right now coming straight from the tournaments. White Bronco followed, followed Sean Downey one A. Excited to see him shortly here. He was out at the tournament all day. The players championship media staff is chasing him in the police cars behind as he left. I'm sure he did something in Cindy area on his way out. Big Randy, unfortunately, under the weather tonight and will not be able to join us.
Starting point is 00:01:00 So it will be just us here in the kill house. You might have noticed this DJ. I'm assuming you did, that the Callaway and Odyssey staffers were carrying special bags this week, touting Odyssey is the number one putter on tour. Like that one back here, and if you're seeing this over DJ's, right shoulder, we have a ton,
Starting point is 00:01:16 we have one of those bags in the studio, as you're seeing, and Odyssey's got a great new, got a ton of great new options this year, including several new models in the white OG line. Those new White Hot OG are the double wide, and then a few versions of the very popular number seven shape. The new ones are the Nano Seven and the Crank Hossel Seven,
Starting point is 00:01:33 which I'm gonna have to look into that. What a, just the name alone, it has to be very intrigued. I saw the double wide last week. I saw, I was with a player who's using it, really blew me away. It was very intriguing stuff. The crankhawzles Zander's shape of choice and the new favorite of the big guy, the Sevenbird.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Randy is supposed to be here right now to tell you all about how much he appreciates. He was a last sick. He can't be. He was a late scratch, a very late scratch this one. We'll get more on that one. We also have some details to give away on an Odyssey bag that we will be giving away. More details on that at a later date. As always, you can learn more about Odyssey and what makes the number one putter on tour at Odyssey Golf.com. We were ready to tell you all about Sam Burns' week, but he had one of his Sundays, that, or Mondays, I guess you'd say, it didn't go great.
Starting point is 00:02:16 But what a day. What a day. How do a week? Can you remember the last time you were, I mean, there was a lot of clapping, a lot of jumping, a lot of cheering. You were jolly. Going out in the, in the kill house today, I'm curious, what was the last time you were, I mean, there was a lot of clapping, a lot of jumping, a lot of cheering, going on in the in the kill house today. I'm curious. What was the last time you felt that way? I don't fill it the PGA. Fill it the PGA. I don't want to comp, comp this too.
Starting point is 00:02:36 I know, of course, of course, the day of 2019 Masters, but what I'm saying, unbelievably fun day. Yes, players delivers. It was, I latched on. I latched my hopes on to honor bond. That's what I was rooting for. I'm happy for Cam. He's great, dude. We've enjoyed getting the know him down here. Uh, you know, he's, he's one of the top 10 players in the world. Honor bonds of 377 320 second ranked player in the world have the, hell, the 54 whole lead. And I was super excited to see what, uh, what that win would be like. He, he gave the performance he needed to. Cam just went out and got it. It was awesome to, uh, uh, what that win would be like. He gave the performance he needed to Cam just went out and got it. It was awesome to, uh, yeah, I'm sure we'll get to honor
Starting point is 00:03:09 about it a minute. Let's, let's start with Cam. Couple of things on Cam. Uh, I, I just saw that what was it? Justin Ray tweet, I believe he's the first players champion in history to hit less than 50% of his fairways for the week. Uh, but driving accuracy is important on this guy. I bring up because just to kind of pop that bubble of like, it's, it's only short hitters. Another year of a wide variety of players playing well at the players. That's a lot of players in one sentence there. But I followed Cam all week and I just, I kept getting off the golf course, which was, you know, a good call.
Starting point is 00:03:41 I think TC and I declared this thing over on Thursday night before round one was even finished. Round one wouldn't finish for two more days. We had already declared Cam the winner. So feeling good about that. But I kept coming off the golf course to just kept texting you guys like, yeah, Cam's the best, like he's the best player in the world right now.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Like it's just, it's so greasy and grimy and ugly and nasty. And he just like doesn't make bogies. Like he just, he was getting up and down from everywhere. Obviously everybody saw it today. That was going on all week. It was grotesque grotesque stuff. He had a hundred and he hit 24 of 56 fairways at 101 putts for the week, but he was fourth in Stroke's Gain approach like he hit the irons incredibly well.
Starting point is 00:04:21 He was very precise. He brought in nine of his 13 holes in round four at the richest purse in golf history. It was incredible golf. I mean, it was just on repeat. He had one par through 13 holes, which was also sick, came out and birdied one, two, three, four, six, then bogeyed seven, eight, and nine.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Birdies 10, 11, 12, 13, and then hit the shot on 17, which I was kind of hoping he wouldn't admit that he pushed that one a little bit because I, we wound it. Look at where his feet are still trying to go over the bunker, which is still a very aggressive line. I looked at where his feet were aimed. I'm like, yeah, it's the bunker's about right, but it's not aimed towards the center of the green. It was a ballsy line.
Starting point is 00:05:01 He was taken on that one. And he was, he was hitting his irons well irons well. I think the reason that he was, I mentioned all that scrambling, stems much more from the driving than it does from the irons, right? Where we've talked about this with Sawgrass a bunch where it's just so easy to compound mistakes and that was a great reminder,
Starting point is 00:05:16 getting out and actually watching a ton of golf this week was when you missed the fairway, it's a lot harder to hit the greens, right? There's so many punching out of trees, weird lies in the rough, weird uneven lies being in that unpredictable pine straw. So he was just missing a ton of greens from that. And like that was his, his, you know, scrambling exhibition that he was putting on. It wasn't, it wasn't for lack of good iron play. When he hit the fairway, he was completely stuffing the pinata, which I think everybody saw it today.
Starting point is 00:05:42 I am glad that when he got to 18T, Zinger brought up, the last T-Shotty hit was a total duck hook on 16, which I'm guessing that was the worst T-Shot of the day on 16. I'll pull it out, but think of the week, like pretty easily, I would think, right? Like it looked like he barely cleared the water. There's a lot of weird stuff that happened this week. This week also started about a month ago, I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:06:02 That's fair as well. Can we talk about 18? What the hell? First of all, it takes the Cody and Ben line, which I think is advised. I think Will Knight said, you know, if that ball doesn't end up in the right pine straw, I'm alerting the authorities with a three shot lead.
Starting point is 00:06:19 And he, we kept saying, like, I'm almost never, ever, ever like bad armchair quarterback guy. I'm always very like, we kept saying, like, I'm almost never, ever, ever, like bad armchair quarterback guy. I'm always very like, listen man, I don't know, these are the best players in the world, they're down there in the situation, they know it a lot better than me. I think we were both screaming like, yo, you have to go outside with like,
Starting point is 00:06:35 this thing is gonna, topspin like crazy, it's gonna be hooking, it's gonna, if you're keeping it that low, it's gonna scoot like crazy, like just chip it out, hit it on and make your five. And yeah, that was jarring. I don't remember, honestly, I would say, I don't remember seeing a shot like that
Starting point is 00:06:54 on the 72nd hole of a tournament since the last time we saw Cam, what was that Memphis? When he just, like was trying to win it and just hit that tree and kicked out a bat caused him some like a, you know, $400,000 or something like that. So yeah, I haven't seen a shot like that since the last time Cam did it. So I guess that's kind of fitting. I said this on Twitter, but Cam is just like the perfect amount of weird for golf.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I'm sure there's more going on than he, like, lets it look on on screen as T.C. Strolls in the door here, coming in, coming in hot. I'm sure there's more going on on screen as TC strolls in the door here coming in coming in hot. I'm sure there's more going on under the service. Come in big day. Did you get to us in the media center? Yeah, yeah, I can't buy them for all of us. I've been double-fishing all the way home. For legal reasons, that's a joke.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Yeah, I got these from the fridge downstairs. It unfazed by the T-shot on 16. You know, he has a great third shot into 16. Steps up with $3.6 million in the line, hits that shot on 17. And then does something really, really, really dumb on 18. And just no big deal, I'll pitch one up to three feet and make the putt and that was the shot difference.
Starting point is 00:07:59 The Milky almost made it. Yes. Maybe should have had a pit of 10 in the flag. Which maybe that was his thought process of like, even if go in the water it's a super easy up and down and I'll be fine. But it was very unnecessary. Can you share any light anything we weren't seeing on TV because it looked extremely foolish to... On 18? Yeah, the punch out out of the tree. Yeah, so I'm assuming A, he didn't hit driver because he did hit driver. Oh, he did hit driver. Oh, sorry. He didn't hit three with, because he hates that tee shot. And he wanted it like,
Starting point is 00:08:25 he's got that left miss as you saw in 16. And he put the left miss in play on 16. But I guess he's hit it in the water once or twice this week. Yeah. So I was standing with bad Everl on the tee and I was like, why is he pulling drivers like dude? Three would,
Starting point is 00:08:40 we'll go even more left than the driver. So then we go over there, sitting this little upslope in the pine straw and you're right. Like it was one of those shots where you've either got to get it out like 40 yards and just play for like 130 yard shot in or go for the pin. And he didn't either.
Starting point is 00:08:59 It was kind of right in the middle there. And then yeah, but then just like such an awkward little yardage and number and just flushes it, you know, almost makes it like you said. It was, that was one of the, like I haven't had that much fun watching around a golf, maybe in my lifetime. What was the highlight? Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I mean, shit, it was like, you know, for birdies in a row to start. Did you pick them up on, what, like two? I picked them up on two fairway. Yeah. And so I saw him hit and make the putt in the media center on one and I was like, all right, I got out there. And then the tee shot that he hit into three
Starting point is 00:09:39 was like one of the most proper iron shots I've ever seen. Four was just like a routine birdie And then you know kind of wobbled there a little bit Good good part on five and then six Birdies that sticks it stone dead and then seven that was a bad bogey like that You know that was I was I was standing with Maddie and we're kind of like oh man Like that was that was not great. And then eight was just tough.
Starting point is 00:10:06 And then nine was the only one that driver-wise, where it was like, all right, drivers kind of a weird play here, right? Because he had to hit driver there all week and he was kind of banging it up that left side. And given, I think it was kind of like one of those, I'm with you. It didn't seem like many people,
Starting point is 00:10:22 if any people were getting there in two today, so probably somewhat of an unnecessary risk. And it seemed like he needed something to steady him after you know to two bogeys in a row And then hit hit actually really really good Recovery shot there didn't quite get back into the the Fairway and some of the thickest rough there on the course take us on the entire golf course They're on the right and then just a tough, tough two putt there. But I think the drive on 10 was really what steadied him. Like he, he freaking laced one on 10,
Starting point is 00:10:52 and it was like, all right, I'm back on the- Because it was up for grabs at that. When he got back, fell back to nine under. That was when this tournament got especially drunk. Keegan Bradley emerged from the ashes, like a phoenix, I don't know where that came from. I came on my phone, like, Keegan. Why point Keegan?
Starting point is 00:11:04 He serious? I looked up, Cody, I a phoenix. I don't know where that came from. I came on my phone, like, Keke. Why point Keke? He's serious? I looked up, Cody, I sent you the graphic. I don't know if you can, if you can pull it up and I know people who are listening to the podcast can't see this, but was the worst shot on 16 for the whole week by a long, long, long, long margin. It went 179 yards. Yeah, it was, it was five out 40 yards.
Starting point is 00:11:20 He was farthest away from the pin by 40 yards for the week. I was almost worried that he was gonna, like come back and like hit the tree and come back into that water right off. He got kind of lucky with it. How small was that window? He was hitting the tree. I didn't see a window.
Starting point is 00:11:32 I didn't see a window. And then his third shot there was like that was a whole lake. So good. So good. He hit like 240 or 240, 45, something like that. And so they'd go back like back nine, the birdie on 10 was like, he almost made that one. 11, just a really, really proper second shot there.
Starting point is 00:11:53 It started raining like crazy. That was wild. It dumped. Yeah, it started kind of sprinkling a little bit on 10. Which your models, we talked about this in the media centers, weren't it? The Euro model, that's all over the ring. The Euro model nailed it.
Starting point is 00:12:04 And the American model was way off. That it was going to be all son of all that. Yeah, but then so 11, he had kind of a squirrely number, I think, and just laces one up there. And then, yeah, Sam Burns waits to, like, he calls this the referee over to squeegee off the green. And I was like, it's not raining that hard. It's kind of a smart play though of like, all right, let's get, you know, let it let it let the rain go through a little bit. You know, Keegan, you would have lost your mind. Keegan on 13, he just kind of stood on the umbrella for a good two or three minutes there.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Well, and then it like it was one of those things where, you know, official comes over to squeegee it off. They wait four or five minutes and then they're waiting 10 minutes on the next tea. Yeah. That's the thing is a sneaky, like, nice move. You can pull like it's kind of an unwritten thing among players when it starts raining like that of like, yeah, nobody play. Like, let's all chill for a second. Let's all slow down and let this thing get through. We don't necessarily want to turn it to flip, especially on a perfectly sunny day when you know it's only going to last like 12 minutes. That's just have to hit as few shots as possible.
Starting point is 00:13:07 On 12, the chip from over on the right that that was probably the like ball like other than 17. I was probably the ball's the shot I saw all day. I was sitting there with the sky sports and the fanny sonnest and they were going nuts. They were going bad. You like he flew it a lot farther than he would think. And then it checked up a little bit. Like it was not a good lie. That was a proper shot.
Starting point is 00:13:30 13, it's a great one. That was Balsey too. Yeah. And then 14, again, some of the thickest rough on the entire course and those little little homics there. But it's a proper spot plan chip. Moving the chess pieces for it.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Really, really shitty chip. That was one of those few mistakes of the day really shitty chip on 14 there and then makes like on 20 25 footer and then he goes left on 15 you know but recovers and then and then yeah and then 16 we talked about that 17 burns taking that exact same line we're standing right behind them and burns took that exact same line and it got wet. And I'm thinking, oh my, I think Kim hit it harder than burns, but holy shit. Like this is it.
Starting point is 00:14:10 It landed right in the pin. Like it is the, the, the, the, I think Porter or somebody tweeted it like you give him the whole 20 million. If you land one, if you're in the lead and land one right of the pin on 17 on Sunday, you should get the entire pot. How, how many pots did he have? Uh, he had 10 on the back nine. He had 24. He had 10 puts on the back nine.
Starting point is 00:14:27 24 puts it in. Yeah. Yeah. He he one putt it eight of nine holes on the back nine. I mean, he was it was they did not lip in either like everything went in the dead center of the whole. I feel like I've been on like a cocaine bend. I was saying that's why I've been trying to tell everybody all week was like it followed him and rounds one round two round three. I'm like, this guy is, he's might be the most entertaining player to follow because you don't, it's not like, like we followed JT for a while. We were talking, we were joking about this this morning, following him today and seeing him play golf in person and watching cam play golf in person.
Starting point is 00:14:58 On one hand, it's like, wait, how the hell does cam ever beat that guy? Like, that's the dude. Like, holy shit. He's the best golfer. Like, that guy doesn't ever, he doesn't ever miss a shot. Like, how does that guy. Like that's the dude, like holy shit. He's the best golfer. Like that guy doesn't ever, he doesn't ever miss a shot. Like how does that guy ever lose? And then you just watch Cam do it like 100 times in a row. You're like, oh my god, I can't imagine playing against that guy.
Starting point is 00:15:16 What a complete lunatic. And just such a popular win, like you could tell amongst the, you know, the caddies, like the three caddies in the group after they came in, like you know, the caddies, like the three caddies in the group after they came in, like, popular win amongst the caddies, amongst the players, amongst the tour people, amongst the media who like, like this was the guy that, you know, I think everybody wanted to see win. Honourbon was super gracious after we're...
Starting point is 00:15:38 Honourbon rules, he's the best. He's awesome. But really like, like we were, I was standing up there with smart and a couple other guys and behind 18 green and we look out and Honourbon's drive. some really like like we were I was standing up there with smart and a couple other guys and behind 18 green and we look out and honor bonds drive like he must have had a oh turn it over nice little like like turn over draw down he had like 160 in 161 in bond played the round he needed to play today to win that golf tournament cam went out and shot six under
Starting point is 00:16:02 and took kind of took it from him but man Bond had one bad swing on eight that led to double. It was very bad. It was very bad swing. It was not enough for him. What if I told you, Bond had to move people sitting at a picnic table in order to do his second shot? On eight, he tried to, like, personally, the picnic table is all right.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Exactly. It was planned, what they say, the real feel, with the wind was like two 52 or something like that. Yeah. And he tried to hit four iron and just completely smother hooked it had to take an unplayable from one of the Palmetto bushes. And he went back 87 yards to the edge of the rough back there.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Like had to pick people up like, hey, you need to move from this picnic table. I'm covered right over you. The people were not in a hurry to move me. I think, I thought, is this guy playing the tournament? Who is this guy? Um, but dude, he hit this freaking golf shots, man. He, uh, he kind of, I say that. He had some queasy irons.
Starting point is 00:16:52 He looked like he was struggling a little bit with the irons today, but he drove it. He had 10 to 14 fairways today, stepped up, hit a huge shot on 17. It didn't really release, but he had a 13 and a half foot put, drained it right in the center, right as cam, starting to have his issues. And it was like, and then he throw to the drive right down, he's got nine iron in, probably 160. And to the most accessible pin, like it very, very, very easily could have happened for me. So Doug Gims kicked to if his ball carries, you know, maybe six, seven more yards, which
Starting point is 00:17:18 is not that close for a pro. But if he hits that shot better, it hits that mound, goes down to five feet, and we're probably still in a playoff. Well, I was telling you guys again, this morning, not to keep being like, I watched golf guy, but he was paired with Cam, finishing up round three.
Starting point is 00:17:32 And so I watched them play their last nine holes and just like, it was clear like, Onerbond didn't have it either this morning. Like he was struggling with that. Shotty hit on 18 was what he hit, probably like seven, eight times days, what it looked like. Where he's you can't tell if he's trying to turn it over.
Starting point is 00:17:48 If he's trying to hit a cut, just kind of sticks the heel in the ground. And it kind of hits like the weak one out to the right. And I was just trying to like exclaim to you guys how bad his chipping was. Early this morning was just like, I don't know if he chipped one inside 12 feet. Just like so stressful this morning was just like, I don't know if he chipped one inside 12 feet, just like so stressful this morning. Constantly just like looking up at the scoreboard, just 10 feet, two inches for par, 12 feet, four inches for par, and he fucking made all of them. Like drippy, drippy puts.
Starting point is 00:18:16 And the fact that like that guy hung on and battled all day and had a chance on the 72nd green is awesome. And he had some good stuff to say after the third round too, that probably, like it probably helped the schedule probably actually helped him a lot, right? Like he comes into this week, not known where his game is. Obviously they talked about this a ton of the telecast, but not playing well, not not really known what's going on. And then all of a sudden it clicks.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And the fact that he didn't have to like finish his round on Saturday night, like normal, sit at his hotel until two o'clock in the afternoon, one o'clock in the afternoon, whatever. Like the fact that it was just constantly keep like, okay, we're going, we're going, we're going, get a snack, get a bite, we're going, we're going, we're going, stretch out, do this, we're going. Probably helped him a ton. So it was awesome to see him not fully eject, which I think we all thought maybe was in the model.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Yeah, hand up. I apologize. The American model had him really blown up. I thought Martin was still dogging you. We were damn behind 18. Easy seat to sit in, right? Listen to the show and be like, I'll wait 36 hours. Be like, oh, yeah, nice call there. Who else kind of entered the fray? To be fair, we did call the kids. Beyond Keegan. Yeah, we were pretty early. We were so early on that. We will let you glow here in a second, actually, on that specific note.
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Starting point is 00:20:08 win you win with promo code NLU this week at the draft king sports book twenty one and order restrictions apply C show notes for details. Uh, yes, you had cam Smith winning this weekend in the draft king's preview shows. I did. I think for 15 nugs. Well, check that one. I think that's accurate. King stays hot, baby. A couple more cam things I want to talk about.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I'm not trying to make a reach into, like, is there something about the player's championship thing? But he kind of, I'm trying to think if there's another more flatline guy out there than Ken. Like, honestly, he reminds me a lot of Ricky, right? right where it's like you don't really know what's going on He's just gonna you know and Randy's not here to make some sort of Ricky joke I don't think we need to pile on Ricky at all, but it's camp's probably the best putter in the world of course
Starting point is 00:20:57 But that's taking on Ricky's man. I mean there's like Ricky's longer off the tee, but but similar, you know good iron players good putters and Ricky's longer off the tee, but. But similar, you know, good iron players, good putters, and like emotions are very, very similar. It was wild watching him walk from 16 green to 17 T. You know, the famous walk and just the steady cams up in his face and you're just like, man, I have no idea what that guy's thinking. None.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Zero idea. And like you said, obviously, there's a lot more going on. It's not just blank, but like it's, he's done. He doesn't really care anything. And then he punches it in the water at 18, like categorically awful shot. And it's, man, no idea what that guy's thinking. We're good.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Yeah, it's just really interesting. But it seems, it's kind of like, kind of like DJ in a way of, like, man, that way of playing golf makes a lot more sense than like, you know, which is, which is the honor ball playbook. You like that? That's what honor ball was doing. The craziest short game on the planet.
Starting point is 00:21:50 And he said that after the round two. He's like, you know, I probably like, I probably lean on it a little too much. So someone just, I just saw someone, the comments pop up. How would you describe cam's game? How I would say, I don't know, it's all good. It comes, I go back to when he was on Wild World Golf with us
Starting point is 00:22:09 and I've said this to the story before, but I draw these like tracers on all of our videos and I got a draw, like you're at it, you idiot, it's tracers all the time. I've never gotten to draw one on a professional golfer and watching, you do kind of do it frame by frame and watching cams action like from here to here to here, like change the way I think about the golf swing.
Starting point is 00:22:29 And what I saw on repeat was just like, okay, an extremely consistent motion. This may seem incredibly obvious, but it's extremely consistent motion from one, you know, this point to this point, it is, it just kind of blew me up. I watch his swing and I'm like, I don't, I wouldn't want that swing.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Like he does, it's not pretty. Like he does not jump at the top of the list of like, I want to swing the club like Cam Smith until I saw that part specifically. I was like, oh my God, dude, like that is why he's like one of the most consistent players on tour is he is in the same exact spots every single time. And he's more in control of his golf ball than I feel like a lot of players are. He's, he's, that's quality strikes all the time. Like he's, he's always clipping it, hitting it down on it.
Starting point is 00:23:12 At the same speed. Like you never, you almost never see him go hard at one. He's got a relatively quick tempo, but it doesn't get quicker except for the one on the 60. That was bad. But I would say a word for it would be crafty. Yeah, it's just scalped in cunning and gets the most out of his game. He knows how to play golf.
Starting point is 00:23:30 He knows how to get the ball in the hole. He knows how to put on different surfaces. I think over the last couple of years, what I've learned from Cam is he rotates his body really, really, really well. And you can tell him, like three years ago versus him now, he has so much more core strength. Like you can see, like he's so much stronger than he would let on, I think.
Starting point is 00:23:52 He does all the right shit. Like he's, like he talked off the caddies, they're all like, man, like Cam, like he works his ass off. And he deserves everything he's getting because it's, like he's not the flashiest or he's not the most skilled player as far as distance or this or that, but he just does the right stuff
Starting point is 00:24:11 and he knows how to play golf. And I think what's so cool about everything he just said is there are like, it's cool to see it pay off that he also has all the creativity as well, right? And that's where I know we go back to the well on this a ton, but that's why it's so fun to watch him play Royal Melbourne. Right? Like, sign me up for, if I'm gonna watch,
Starting point is 00:24:28 you know, if I'm building a for some that I can just watch on TV, go play Royal Melbourne, I think Cam is 100% in that, in that group. It's also worth noting, like, I don't, I swear, I don't mean this as a shot, but like, he had four PGA tour wins to this point, but all, like, I don't wanna say crappy wins, there's no crappy wins on the PGA tour.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Team of it. Two team events, Sony and Century. Centuries obviously, very limited field. Sony, not one of the strongest fields. Like this, he did not have a big, big win, like this one anywhere close. That's some close knocks. Well, and he, you don't finish,
Starting point is 00:24:57 you don't finish runner up at the US, at the US open and the masters, if you don't have a massive. I'll play it. Yeah, go ahead. I would say even better word would be scrappy. He's a scrapper. I think he probably used to be scrappier. Now I think he's got more power and I think I think his irons are tight.
Starting point is 00:25:12 But he's still got that scrappiness to fall back upon. I think, I mean, it goes back to even when he was growing up in Australia. He was never the number one ranked player down there. He said to grind his ass off for everything that he's gotten. There's been flashier talents and everything like that. Man, he just puts his head down and works and works and works. He has immense self belief, but he's not at no point what I ever classed for him as cocky. He doesn't seem like he, I'm projecting here, I don't know him well at all, but it doesn't
Starting point is 00:25:43 seem like he really runs with any kind of glamorous, tour player, Hollywood crowd type thing. What were you saying about the caddies? Had it like a caddy party at his house? The Catman tweeted, yeah, they had 30 or so caddies over for Pete's in beer this week. It just seemed like extremely grounded and all the other things we've just been saying for five minutes, which is a pretty cool combo. We ran into him in Atlantic Beach maybe a couple months ago and he was just like, it was up, boys, he's like, hey, you know, we still got to spin
Starting point is 00:26:07 the wheel at Taco Lou. Like you guys got your asses beat by him and that was the bet and there's spend the drink wheel at Taco Lou. And he he he is aware me and him where we see eye to eye on making sure that you guys pay up on your bets because there's still some deaths to be paid. Can I play a master's game with you guys? Sure. I've got to think like, it's time to start looking at it. Cam's going to be a very, very, very, very popular pick. Currently, I don't know if the odds have updated since this win or not. I would guess not.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Plus 1,800 for the masters. That feels about right. Tell me which of these players let's do head to head. If I can give you one of these two for the Masters. Cameron John Rom. Rom. I'd take Rom as well. I'll probably take Rom.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I think Rom is in one of those points right now where he's like, he's going to start trending back over. He's rising from the bottom of the pond, the booing. Rom is plus seven fifty. Speeth is plus one thousand. You're taking speed, are you're taking KM right now. You're really testing my willpower here. There's no...
Starting point is 00:27:09 I'll never leave him again. There's really... I'm gonna say KM. I'm gonna say KM too. There's no bigger speed truth or in the entire world that I think I have to say KM at this point. JT or KM? JT plus 1200.
Starting point is 00:27:21 JT. JT looks pretty dialed. I know it. It felt like JT won this tournament about four times this week. Every time we looked up, it felt like he was playing the best golf of anybody. Just got nothing out of it. Pudding is still an issue. I think I'll take JT. More coward, Cam. Cam. Because more coward, Cam has a draw. But he talked about this on the pod. You only need to hit like three draws off the T there.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I like more. I'd refuse to believe. You three draws off the tee there. I like more, I refuse to believe. He just draws off the tee, but like, I don't know, I'm just, maybe I'm just haunted from his shot into 17 this week. I, yeah, I think the conditions this week wiped him out. Do not sleep. I'm not, there's no, I'm sleeping on Moorakow after one bad week.
Starting point is 00:28:00 I'm gonna take Cam. Dustin or Moorak Mark or Dustin or Cam. These are all people that have better odds in Cam. DJ seems like he's starting to wake up a little bit. Today was concerning. What happened to him? He shot 63. He shot 63.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Oh, really? He finished top 10. Yeah, he equal the last 12. I said that not knowing. Just over the last couple of days, it seems like he's starting to come on and hit some shots again. So I'll take Cam.
Starting point is 00:28:24 I think. I'm just, DJ's neb on and hit some shots again. I'll take Cam. I think you just, you just nebish right now. Two unpredictable. I'll take DJ. This is a sad one to talk about. Rory or Cam. Cam. Cam.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Uh, can't lay or can. Cam. Can't lay. I'm gonna take Cam. Can't lay hasn't, we haven't seen him in big spots. I feel like this was another week where it's like, oh, can't lay is the dude. And he goes home. A bad interesting. Those are all the people with better odds at him. That's interesting. I wonder how much that'll change.
Starting point is 00:28:47 That is an interesting game. I love, I really, really like Cam and St. Andrews. Yeah. Kind of hit it wherever I go. I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it.
Starting point is 00:29:00 I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it. I'm how much that'll change. That is an interesting game. I love I Really really like Cam at St. Andrews. Yeah Kind of hit it wherever off the table for sure, but there's lines of charm It's you know, I think half the fields probably eliminated before they tee it up because they don't understand how to play Of course can rap up is his greasy-ass
Starting point is 00:29:19 Short game and one of those newspapers. It also might not matter if the win doesn't blow. That's true. You don't need to know how to play the course. Well, and then also, I think, you have to open a Brooklyn, like tiny, tiny greens. And so everybody's chipping. And everybody's chipping, but you're a good iron player and everybody's chipping and putting it anyway. Like, that's a good fit. Great question from Craig Mosher, Tony.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Finauer Kim. Tony Kim. Yeah, that's tough. I'll give you the first word out of it. Obviously, Tony. I mean, he's trending. I mean, he's well-rested for sure coming off Is he though because this weekend the two routes went on forever guys who else who else kind of entered the fray today like this is all kind of
Starting point is 00:29:55 Oh, dude, I got on my phone a few times to check leaderboards But he's part of it was pretty locked up. Kids shop for under NBC tried so hard to get a personal human interest story going on Paul Casey of so many people out there pulling for him. You know, it would be the biggest win of his life. He's only one three PGA tour events. There's a reason for why he's only one three. Well, I was just like, I thought this was always very obvious to golf fans. I feel like there's a strong sentiment against them.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Just tweeted out like again, like why? Who were all these crazy Paul Casey fans? Did not did not did not please a lot of people on the other side of the pond apparently there are some very big Paul Casey fans out there. I had to like Paul Casey said some shitty things to like he just like there are I'm gonna dress down a volunteer Marshall today for not getting the ropes up quick enough behind 12 green listen to him make small talk with his caddy about this umbrella that comes in his Porsche that That like fits into this special compartment like you know by like the 11th or 12 homes fuck off man Like you're such a prick and this is like in in reference to it's hard because there's not like one thing
Starting point is 00:30:56 You can point that and pin down to be like Paul Casey bad dude, but so there's so many nice guy fake nice guy So many people so many nice guys. Fake nice guys. I like Team Rose. So many people, so many stories out there I've heard from many people that I trust. They're just like, yes, exactly that exact thing. And I'm, I actually texted a couple people today like, hey, I've got a really strong anti-casi sentiment going right now. I just want to run that by you.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Am I in the right here for people that know I'm a lot better than I do? They're like, absolutely, absolutely on this. So for the people that are doubting this and calling it grade school gossip, like this comes from a place of knowing a lot of things. And to be fair, he's been totally nice when we've done stuff with him at,
Starting point is 00:31:31 like when we did the beer garden thing. Oh, he was, he was nice about that. And he had his own later house in the garage. He can put the charm on in a short period of time, but it always bubbles to the surface. And there it is just the, I take I'm very confident without knowing personally. You may find that unfair, but I find it extremely fair.
Starting point is 00:31:50 He was devastated on 16. You guys had texted him. Dude, that was the worst break. Was that like what happened to Kutra at Mirafield? Apparently, but this went like subterranean. I mean, it was, I mean, his balls like sitting there and the earth is just like coming up around it.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Like it's sitting in the plug. It was un-un unbelievable that it would sit there. Which I would, if that happened, I didn't see it. I'm sure they did, but it's ball on 16. It hits it middle the fairway, maybe like perfectly right side of the fairway. And it rolls out a little bit and comes to rest in somebody else's pitch mark. What a chance. Which you are, of course, allowed to fix your own, if it's your own embedded somebody else's pitch mark, which you are of course allowed to fix your own if it's your own embedded in its own pitch mark.
Starting point is 00:32:27 But if that happened on a Thursday, like no one, he would have just probably assumed it was his own pitch mark. I was honestly thinking, like if somebody's got to tell him that's not his pitch mark, right, because it was that embedded. So you saw it happen in real time. Oh yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Oh god. It was good stuff. It was tough. I stuff. It was I honestly would not even wish that that that break. You know, they call that is the rubber. They agree with you more. They were almost wondering like why he laid up from there was very shocking very shot. They were I appreciated him taking him to task on 12 like man. He he's trailing. He hits like the perfect shot. You know, a nice high right to left, uh, driver. Very shocking to see that he's not going for it on 12, uh, laid up.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Can't really bag him too hard because, you know, he did make a birdie on 12. But, uh, yeah, hearing them question like, why is, oh, interesting. Why is he laying up on 16? Like, he had fucking hit the ball. There's a nowhere it's going to go. He, uh, he made a business decision on 17. He wasn't going anywhere near that pin. He had a great, I give him credit on 15.
Starting point is 00:33:32 He had like a Mondoqueef of the right. Bad shot. Really bad. I thought it was gonna be on 12T. Matt every in the film room. Two things Matt every said in the film room that came very prescient was one. He was talking about how Cam is, you know, he's such a good chipper because it's his own motion, he owns it, he just gets up there, he doesn't think about anything technical,
Starting point is 00:33:53 he just chips the ball and that's why so good, I thought that was a really good point. And then two, he told a great story about Paul Casey when he had the driver Yips back in the day, almost blowing it onto 11 green on 15T. And he kind of gave us self-recreated. Yeah, so it was so far right, and then he's up on this side hill out of the thick stuff and credit to him for getting it even remotely close to the green on that next shot.
Starting point is 00:34:18 And then I think he got up and down and made- He made one bogey today, earned round four, and that was on number eight, and everybody was making big numbers on number eight. That was the hardest hole today. He played a great round of games. Number eight was impossible. I can't, I just don't have,
Starting point is 00:34:32 I don't have much ad to the Casey conversation. I don't really feel much either way. I feel pretty, pretty ambivalent. I definitely wouldn't say I root for him. Well, I think that's, that's kind of the thing, right? It's, someone that's been around for as long as he has over the last 20 years and you've seen him in this many big spots and everything and you still feel kind of ambivalent about him. Yeah
Starting point is 00:34:52 I know point their guy at no point that I think he was gonna win which is so weird. It's amazing It was I was telling you it felt exactly to me like the The PJ had hearting park. It's like yeah, no, I know he's like tied for the lead technically, but like, he's not gonna win. When he left the birdie putt short on 13, yeah. That was like, yeah, like of course. After seeing like the exact line from Cam going in.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I probably feel about Casey the way you guys probably feel about Fienel. About when he gets into contention, but Fienel I think is gonna win every time. And Casey, I was like, oh no, you're not, that's not happening. So, all right, so who else, who else climbed it? So, Keegan played. The pro.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Keegan played really well. The pro made a lot of money. The pro max max homo. Six under 66. Moved from what? 50th or so. Up with T 13. But just as far as guys who could have won.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Like, like, like, like, like, a hoblin was, was up there for a little bit, right? Keegan, Keegan finished bogey double to shoot, finish it minus nine. So if he parsed that, pars? He can, he can finish Bogey double to finish it minus nine. So if he, he parsed, parsed the last two, he finishes one shot back. Okay. He, he had it going. He had it to eight under through 16 holes today and then three putty did not go at the
Starting point is 00:35:55 pin on 17, which again, what I love about 17 is this is the best pin. Obviously is, is like, you're going to have to get it back there at some point. And if you bail, you have a huge three-putt risk, right? So you gotta pay that price. There is not a safe shot to hit. You gotta get a ball. And if you get it in that ball, you can make an easy birdie. But if you do not, you are gonna be working for par.
Starting point is 00:36:14 That is what makes it really, really, really good shot value hole. That was especially tough today. You had, like, I'm sure the win was blowing a little bit harder than it was when the leaders came through, but that East wind on 17 to that right pin. Like that's so hard. So hard. So hard to get a ball there. He was, uh, hovelin wasn't, he wasn't going to win necessarily.
Starting point is 00:36:36 He finished it seven under, but he was on 12 in a great spot. And I won't say bone the chip, but kind of hit it through the green, like just horrible. All this, like it becomes kind of a meme, like, oh, this guy can't chip, but then like he does some of the stuff that we saw on the back tonight today and it becomes pretty apparent. So he made a bogey there
Starting point is 00:36:55 where he should have made a birdie. That's probably two shots. 15 looked like a very benign up and down and just no chance, like horrible chip. Made a bogey there. 16 was in a great spot in two shots. Hit another bad ship, no chance for for Burier, no kind of good chance for Burdy. And then 18 drove in the water.
Starting point is 00:37:13 So I mean, he kind of, he lit a lot of money on fire, definitely in the back nine. I don't think he was going to win though. Number one in Strokes game T to green this week. And that includes losing almost three shots around the green, Victor Hoblin. He hit the shit out of the ball again, and he putted poorly this week too. He was 63rd and putting 66th around the green. Third in approach, six off the tee.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Like that's hitting the shit out of the ball. That includes basically taking the two shot penalty for his T-shot on 18, which also may bring us to the next point we need to discuss. What's Havana's record at Augusta? Because he seems like kind of a, I mean, I know you got a chip a little bit, but you could Well, what's, what's Hovelin's record at Augusta? Because he seems like kind of a, I mean, I know you got a chip a little bit, but you could probably,
Starting point is 00:37:48 it's probably played what? Twice. Twice maybe? He would have played it as an amateur. As an amateur, yeah. Right. It seems like the kind of play here probably is top 50.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Victor Hovelin at the Masters, he was T32 in 2019 as the low M, and then finished T21 last year, his first one is a tough. He could be a guy to watch out for there. But also like the chipping thing's very real. It's in chipping. He's second to last.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Played the master's very many times chipping. The gust it looks very hard. To bow hoax. He's 216 out of 217 players in stroke scheme around the greens. Bow hoax drive by. And it's not YIPS. Like it's just like horribly, chipping to 15 feet on very straight forward chips.
Starting point is 00:38:26 It's a, yeah, a scratch player would never hit the chips like that. That's the other thing about CAM today where I think you got to go back to like his course management. Setting aside the bad drive on 16 and whatever happened on 18 there. I think like where he, where he missed on 15, where he missed on 14,
Starting point is 00:38:48 like the places that he missed, he was missing in the right places too. And he was taking the really, because there's some really fucked spots around TPC. I mean, just shortsighted, weird downhill lies, weird chipping. But he got those up and down too. Like that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Watching him those first couple of days was like, I mean, 10, he had, he was left of 10 in the woods, had to hit this incredible flop that landed on a down slope, rolls up to four feet, he makes a putt. It was just like, dude, it was all weak. Yes, he does hit it in the right spots, but his driving was so subpar that sometimes he didn't have a chance to, so he would have to hack it up into a badge like shitty spot and he would still get those up and that. So what were his stats?
Starting point is 00:39:30 Like just take me through his his strokes game. Yeah. Uh, he was way, way down in strokes game off to 60, eighth in strokes game off the T fifth in approach. 19th of 70 that made the cut 19th around the greens and first and putting. So he just you picked up four shots putting today. He picked up four shots putting today. 17th of 70 that made the cut. 19th around the greens and first and putting. So he just picked up four shots putting today. He picked up four shots putting today.
Starting point is 00:39:49 And he picked up four shots putting on in round two as well. Yeah, he put it his ass off this week. It's crazy. Like just for him to be able to steady himself and steal himself after the drive that he hit on 16, like it's tough to emphasize. He had his hands, it was like the Icarito. I felt like I was watching Neil
Starting point is 00:40:09 at certain points today. He'd rattled off the four birdies in a row and then kind of hits the skids the end of the front nine and then same deal, back nine. He hits that drive on 16 and I'm like, oh fuck, that's not good, man. That's a Neil Ball right there. Like DJ, start playing the music.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Quick left is a Neil Ball. And sure enough, it's like he took this almost knockout punch and then picked himself up off the mat. It's a really good punchout shot that, I was like, oh my God, is's just gonna ricochet back at us. And then it's one of the best shots of the tournament with that 240 yard, whatever, you know, the utility iron.
Starting point is 00:40:52 I know like that, you know, number of putts can be misleading a little bit sometimes, but yeah, I mean, 101 putts in 72 holes. It's tough to be like that misleading. You know, when you're, when you're supposed to get approached is that good? Two, it's not like you're missing the you're, when you're supposed to get approached, is that good? It's not like you're missing the greens, chipping up to a foot and whatnot. But we got to talk about burger, hovelin, and Damon here.
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Starting point is 00:42:18 Like just like the scatterplot thing that it gives you at the end of a practice. Like it makes it feel like you spent the last hour doing something worthwhile. Yeah. I was joking about this the other day rather than just like, all right, let's see if I can hit this fucking boat. Which is a bit of my, my, we're my practice. I need to distract. I need to geolocate the boat on the scatter. Exactly. Let's talk about the incident on 16th hole. Yeah, tell me about this. So Daniel Berger has, first of all, I badly, badly, badly, badly need him for a top 10,
Starting point is 00:42:48 in the way of 50 nugget play. He's got like two, three lead, which is the lead. The lead line here. Well, maybe it, also, I shouldn't have said that, because it's probably good to people who think of, that's the only reason why I'm taking Berger's side on this. What kind of what I was thinking.
Starting point is 00:42:59 He has like two, 30 or something in on 16, hits this shot. If you're, if you're, you know, falling asleep, we throw the tracer up there, the image up there of kind of starts it on the left side of the green and it's, the pin is on the right side and it fades, fades, fades, drifts goes right in the water. And they kind of cut away for a while,
Starting point is 00:43:14 but the ESPN Plus camera's got all of the entire conversation and credible audio and to the tourist credit, they posted the whole thing on their Instagram. So if you want to go back and watch this, you can. But basically, and I chatted with someone, Joel Damon, after the round, I think that they're a eventually ended up with a fair middle ground, right? And it sounds like Burger was going really close to the green to take the drop.
Starting point is 00:43:37 And they both had, and I think Hovon was the first one to say something. I could be wrong, but basically said, like, I'm a little skeptical of that. That doesn't seem right. And they were pointing him way back, way, way, way back. And Joel says something on there, the audio picks him up, saying like, yeah, I didn't really have it like slice in or fading that much, I kind of had it like starting at the pin or right of the pin and then drifting.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Which if you're looking at the tracer, and I know a lot of people are picking, you know, taking issue with looking at the tracer, or it's not accurate, but it very clearly shows some shot shape to it. Like the ball is moving from left to right. You can follow the shadow that's on the ground as well, and it's showing it at least starting left, so it crosses a lot of land,
Starting point is 00:44:16 and he ends up dropping at 100 yards out. So it kind of feels like, I kind of was Team Burger on this. How far was he hitting the shot from? Like 230. And it just, again, it kind of, this is a problem with TPC sawgrass as you have these shots that are huge carries.
Starting point is 00:44:31 And it's impossible to the cat. It's impossible to know. This is the case he wouldn't burger is not walking through that door with this pairing. And. Well, it's good to see Joel and Victor as students of history. It's not on my watch, man.
Starting point is 00:44:44 I don't know. It just felt like burger was adamant, like extremely, extremely adamant that it was not, and please do not send me the screenshot of the shot, of, you know, that goes on the app. Those are not, that does not show the shape of the shot, that shows a straight line from where it went in. I think they ended up in a pretty fair spot. Burger was pretty adamant that that was not the case.
Starting point is 00:45:04 They had a very coach K handshake afterwards. How much closer was he trying to drop it? I was told 25 yards from the green, which seems aggressive. Again, I'm with them on that, but they were trying to send him really far back. And basically the ultimate settlement was like, I think this is a bad drop, but this is where you guys think it should be
Starting point is 00:45:20 I'll drop it here. And did the rules official come up? He did, but he was through this. He was kind of like, you guys had a much better angle than the ones we had. There's always a way she can say he can. You guys got a, like, a gree on this. Which is where I kind of, first of all,
Starting point is 00:45:32 you know, I'm wildly unrecorded here. Don't give a shit about where did it cross Twitter. So I'd like to mostly abstain from this. But second, it's weird, and this is kind of why I don't give a shit about a lot of this stuff I feel like, is just like relying on a protracer is weird. But second, it's weird and this is kind of why I don't give a shit about a lot of this stuff. I feel like is just like relying on a protracer is weird. We know how like unreliable those can be.
Starting point is 00:45:50 It's weird to take that as gospel over like, and it's also weird to take like eyewitness from someone who's on the other side of the fairway or it's just, I don't know, it's just an unfortunate, unfortunate situation. One thing I'll say about burger that I've noticed heavily over the last couple of years. I've heard some stories as well, but it also seems some some eye witness stuff. When someone's taking a drop, when someone's like, he's always in there. So I think it was P a couple of years ago. Last year, a couple of years ago, he, I think he's a big spirit of the game guy. I'm sure he was not trying to pull one over and did over Damon
Starting point is 00:46:21 and Victor. I'm sure they're not trying to, you know, obviously they seem like both very, very upstanding guys as well. So I think it's a little bit of a, you know, not much to see, probably miscommunication. What's Captain Berger, you know, you got to worry about, you know, he knows maritime law. That's true. That's why he's trying to get out to international waters where you can drive wherever you want. He was looking for the harbor master. Cody, I see you throwing up all these comments that are ripping on me here. I need you to come in here and give, uh, give your opinion on the matter if you, if you
Starting point is 00:46:48 manage to see it. Yeah, I saw it. I, uh, I stand with the, the boys here, not, uh, he tried to go way, way, way, way to the water. Which I agree. He would, it, it would definitely sounds like he went too far, but it also looks like that ball was covering a lot of land before it started going out over the water. Sure. I think everybody's thrown off here by the, by the actual graphics that were up on the screen and the graphic, like the ball itself was still way for the right that the
Starting point is 00:47:14 tracer ends up being. How do you, which the ball always looks? This is like this again, where I'm like, yeah, this is just a bad situation. The ball always looks on TV. The down the line shot always looks like it's a mile further right than it actually is. You know what I mean? It's always the only thing that really works is like a blimp shot or like a tower shot from directly behind.
Starting point is 00:47:34 So otherwise you always get skewed perspectives and you can't tell, like go watch any golf shot that a right-handed hits looks like it just blows immediately straight right off the screen. And so I don't know. it's just, it's a, it's just a bad situation. If you follow the shadow of the tracer, it doesn't, it's on its way down before it starts to get like out over the water. Like it, it, it's past apex, which, you know, that's got
Starting point is 00:47:58 to be what 60% of the way there, at least, I don't know, it's, it's, it's, what a dumb fucking sport. It's amazing. Exactly. Well, thank you. That's what I was saying. But like this shit is gonna matter. One for like one. I totally can't, but just like if you were a non-golfer. Yeah, hypothetically, if you had buddy,
Starting point is 00:48:12 Adadiel Berger. Stop putting all these comments on the screen, Cody. This is bullshit. This one's pro you. I put one up, making fun of you. Saltigating involved like the one. There is a little solution. Didn't raise his head to answer the question.
Starting point is 00:48:25 That's good one. But like for people that are gambling on this stuff, like I feel like at some point in golf, they're gonna have to figure out rather than it being up to the competitors that can't, that don't really have that much better information. I feel like at some point we're gonna have like three, you know, we're gonna have radar going everywhere
Starting point is 00:48:43 and it's gonna be able to triangulate. It's like that Israeli technology that is really radar technology that they use in the NBA. Cody would love to tap you it on the phone. Any words there? I think God he went with the NBA. I thought we were going to trap draw conversations here. I was not gonna know if this is a platform for that. It is interesting that David has ended up in this situation a couple times, which if I have any bias here, it's George Joel, who I would consider a friend and there's been a guest on this show many times. I have no relationship with Daniel Berger. But, you know, he, he, Joel doesn't think that, that grandstands are a problem.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Yeah. Joel is the watcher on the wall. You're not trying, you're not trying to take a bad job. I don't know. Could be justice for Sun Kang. If Joel's proven to be incorrect at this. We had Sun wrong all the whole time. Exactly. I don't know. Makes you think is all. That seems unlikely. What else we got to say?
Starting point is 00:49:36 I got to get, I mentioned it briefly, but Kizner's round was a complete cash machine as well. I think that was the, he was in the money booth. Just grav-a-grav-a-shit off the walls. Which I know everyone has one of these holes at Sawgrass. Everyone has one disaster hole. He made what a triple bogey on 17 on...
Starting point is 00:49:57 I thought he did. No, he made a big number earlier in this week that was... Double on five. He made a double. I thought he made a triple on 17. I mean, I have that wrong. He made a double on five earlier in the week that was. Double on five. He made a double. I thought he made a triple on 17. I mean, I have that wrong. He made a double on five row in the week, but he, uh, yeah, okay, my take is nullified then.
Starting point is 00:50:10 I swear, I thought he hit one in the water on 17 and cost himself a lot of money, but, uh, yeah, he has a good trip. One of the few players that has a pretty consistent track or a guess. And I think what's, uh, Kisner's game is similar to Kams. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:22 And they're both very good iron players can be Spoddy off the tee and but you know maximize their games around the greens I just like looking at his scorecard because it is very Saagras is a little Augusta-ish on that back nine right where it's like he gets through he bogies 11 Which is a totally getable hole that he should have birdied But then you just know that like okay now I'm on 12T, I absolutely can run downhill and I can just go grab a ton of cash and maybe something weird will happen on, put myself in contention.
Starting point is 00:50:54 I think that's what makes it, obviously let me be the 8,000th person to say that. But I think that's what makes it so fun to watch. I mean, like 14, 15, you can run downhill, really, 11, 12, 13, and then. And then you can get caught sleeping on 14. 14, 15's like a little heat check there. A little bit like 14 in Augusta, where it doesn't look like much. 14 and 17 in Augusta, little bit.
Starting point is 00:51:15 15 was the second hardest hole today, only six birdies on that one. Well, I mean, seven had to be hardest shit today too. Seven eight was, that was a tough little stretch. Straight back in the wind. Seven was sixth hardest and eighth was the hardest shit today too. Seven eight was, that was a tough little stretch. Straight back in the wind. Seven was sixth hardest and eighth was the hardest hole today. And it was all the best players. I think they got it in the hardest conditions
Starting point is 00:51:32 coming in the last few groups, but the wind was really starting to pick up a little bit at that stretch. Romall so probably pulled up four. Yeah, right. Scoring average on four. You may have a buoy on the scoring average on four you have a booy on the average on four
Starting point is 00:51:46 there was a coast guard helicopter coming in flying above as he was making his his nine uh... on four which we were out there watching first of all on on three he blocks a probably an eight or seven iron way right doesn't get for for for the for the dot for the which we it's got to be fair we got to get on's gotta be fair. We gotta get on the European guys
Starting point is 00:52:05 just as we get on the American guys. Absolutely brained that guy. Hit a dude in the dome. But that was great. Did a whole song and dance. Yeah, made the joke. Hug, very public. Headbutted onto the green next time for me.
Starting point is 00:52:17 That's good. That was good. And then it got dark. And then he hits it right on four. He's in the fairway bunker. And I remember thinking like, God, I would hit this in the water for sure, but I cannot wait to watch him just hit the middle of the green. He chunks it right on four, and he's in the fairway bunker. And I remember thinking, like, God, I would hit this in the water for sure, but I cannot wait to watch him just hit the middle of the green.
Starting point is 00:52:28 He chunks it right in the water, and gets up, takes a weird drop, DJ to your credit. You were like, yeah, I know he's number one playing the world, but I don't know about 90 yards out on a downslope all above your feet. And I was like, oh no, he's gonna hit this right on the ground. He basically took it as far back as he possibly could, still in the fairway downhill lie, but
Starting point is 00:52:45 somehow above his feet as well. Super weird. Very, very weird place to chunk that into the water. So now he's hitting six. It's another bad one onto the front of the green and three parts of for nine. Maybe worse than the ones that went in the water. Yeah, tough, tough, tough. And JT hit it to like what two feet and then JT and Doc Redmond.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Maybe four. Yes. JT and Doc Redmond what two feet and then and then dock redman for it. Yes. JT and dock redman had six combined strokes on the whole. Rom had nine strokes on the whole. JT hit it to like two inches and then rom hit it five times and took two penalty shots before JT got to tap it. Dock redman though, not a real doctor. Which we learned today.
Starting point is 00:53:19 That was news. Yeah, he's a PhD. Yeah. Sorry, I had to get that off. We had way too much fun with that. Four holes there. JT's shot into three. That was the next best shot I saw to cams.
Starting point is 00:53:32 I was like, oh my god, we're probably not gonna see anything better into three than that. And then cam puts it, you know, pin high, just right out of the pin, but like very, very tough, tough pit placement there today. Got a head of blast watching JT this week. That was, you know, I kind of said it on the show the other night. I know it wasn't the finish that he was looking for the weekend. He was looking for it, but. What did he do today?
Starting point is 00:53:56 Even par, kind of stuck in, stuck in neutral a little bit. Eagle 16 though, but then, that's right, he doubled, doubled 17. Triple. Or sorry, triple 17. But this week, and a lot of obviously most of it was the conditions, but we said this the other night that I think there's a misconception. I'm sure that I'm very guilty of this as well, especially when you start getting a little jolly on the show and your mouth starts moving a little faster than your brain, but I think there's a misconception about like,
Starting point is 00:54:25 oh, technology and conditions. And these guys, they can't hit any shots, man. These guys don't, you know, they don't have one. They can't do what these, the players of your used to do. And then you watch JT and you watch like a bunch of other guys have to, like we just don't get to see them hit the shots. Like, yeah, 100% absolutely can hit the shots.
Starting point is 00:54:43 We just don't ever get to see them, which both made me so happy this week that we did get to see it. And it made me so bummed that we don't get to see it more. And that's JT like rose miles in my book this week of like, God, I didn't realize I don't think just how fun that guy is to watch. That's what made Brandyl's take on 17 frustrating. It was like, no, no, dude, like it was possible. And it's a shot that it's a different shot on that day. It was taken on Saturday, basically, that, you know, 17 was unfair. It was like, no, no, no, dude, like it was possible. And it's a shot, it's a different shot on that day. What was it taking?
Starting point is 00:55:06 On Saturday, basically, that, you know, 17 was unfair, it was not designed to be, you know, playing in hard conditions like that. And I was just adamant of like watching the different kind of shots we talked about this all week, you know, the different heights of shots. You had a much better chance of hitting the green, the lower you hit the shot. And it was just very specific of like, dude, can you flight, if you're hitting eight iron, can you flight it down? If not, it's going to balloon and go in the water. And if you hit seven iron, can you flight, if you're hitting eight iron, can you flight it down? If not, it's going to balloon and go in the water.
Starting point is 00:55:26 And if you hit seven iron, can you make sure it doesn't go through the wind? Can you get enough spin on it to hold the green? Like it was a specific shot that was required. And it was super fun to be like, execute this or pay a one and a half shot penalty. Probably that's what the penalty is for going to the drop area. And some dudes could do it. I have to feel could do it. And some couldn't.
Starting point is 00:55:44 And that is totally fine for entertainment. Look at that frickin' island green. That point you made of, like, it's not a real golf hole. Look at that thing. It's like, it's just an all-mold spirit of competition. We need to make this a little more fair. It's like, dude, it's a circus. They throw a ton of of it. And then he starts bitching about, well, it's a window into the player's soul or like, you know, golf is a window into the player's soul. Well, this is like that's the nearest window you could possibly have. I hate to massively oversimplify it, but like we saw two dudes go up there in the penultimate group on the final round and we saw Cam take a line over the bunker with a two shot lead and we saw Paul Casey play right to the middle when he knew that he had to chase.
Starting point is 00:56:22 It's like, dude, that that's it, man. Yeah. Can you do it or not? Well, I know Cam pushed it and all that stuff, to chase. It's like, dude, that, that's it, man. Yeah. Can you do it or not? Well, I know Cam pushed it and all that stuff, but like he's still, like we said, was way right of where I would have been, you know, standing on that T-box. I still, I do think there's a right of where
Starting point is 00:56:34 a scratch player would have been. There's probably some work that can be done in the back left portion of that, and that sloping the middle is probably a bit severe. I think I've been in the volcano. But the back right part is awesome. I think it's great. I think it's just makes for tremendous tremendous. It just, it said this like when cams getting ready to hit that shot like for that much money and that much shit you got to put on the line. I remember Harman had made
Starting point is 00:56:56 about a $400,000 bet by last year when he went at that pin when if he goes in the water, it probably cost him 400K and he stuffed it and made a bunch more money. That's entertainment right there. That's what we need as golf fans. I would say JT, he is living embodiment of what Zinger said. I think last week when he said what old school, old school modern golf. Old school modern golf. Like JT's got some old school shit in him.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Yeah. And then also I think like somehow that was this week. Like JT hits the shots and does this stuff. I think he and Rory are probably the two guys that have, that like the ceiling doesn't exist, right? They're so freaking talented and good and there's just so much upside. And JT does this shit that you wanna see Rory do.
Starting point is 00:57:41 You wanna hear the dumbest like this week was way too long. Rory and JT tied this week. Yeah. Rory shot six dead cat bounce from Rory do. You want to hear the dumbest like this week was way too long. Rory and JT tied this week. Yeah. Rory shot six dead cat bounce from Rory today. What it does, Zalator, do you today? He went backwards. Zalator's did not have a good day today. He finished at T26.
Starting point is 00:57:57 He shot two over today. Sam Burns, tough, tough day. I'm sure there'll be plenty of great days in his future. Just wasn't his day. Burns was, he, I guess he does this a lot. I guess he was missing left all day yesterday. He was missing right all day today. And I'm like, God, he's gonna put the left miss back in play.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Again, credit though, like that's such a grind if you don't have it off the tee. Yes. Well, he stepped up, Cody, agree or disagree? Yeah. On the 18th hole today in round three, he stepped up in here a tee shot that got like a double standing ovation from the crowd.
Starting point is 00:58:27 It was so good. Drew it around the way. It was like, the shot shape got like a cheer and then everyone like kind of like, lands in the fairway, goes back, just back and everyone just said, yeah, what a shot. Which I rarely see on T-shots. So purely not meaning to be a drive by,
Starting point is 00:58:42 but just a very like, wow, that's wild, man. Bubba, Bogey Free 68 and the hardest day that I've ever seen people play golf and then comes out of the week and goes 78-76, did not see that coming. So just entering that into the historical record. What did last place get? Like 43K.
Starting point is 00:59:02 God. Shout to P for losing almost six shots off the tee this week and finishing T26. It's like straight up if he. Incredible. If he doesn't lose six shots, if he's just average off the tee, how many how many shots, what does he finish?
Starting point is 00:59:16 So if he's six shots better, he shoots eight under par and finishes. Top 10. T6. T6. I guess he's neutral. That's an expensive endorsement deal. P. All right.
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Starting point is 00:59:51 So I apologize for not being as president as I should be. Is it porn again? Are they trying to try to just look at porn or? Or, uh, yeah, it's, it's a lot of, uh, interesting offers. It's called a naked HD XYZ. Hey, no free ads. No free ads. Come on. Don't click it on any of interesting offers. It's called a naked HD, XYZ. Hey, no free ads. No free ads.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Come on, Cody, don't be a clicker on anything. There's links. Don't click any links. Otherwise, the whole thing, the whole operation's going to go down. Anyways, any questions rolling in that we need to get to anything, any topics we haven't covered, Cody? I want to talk a little bit about, I think, oh, sorry, go ahead, Cody. Well, I think a lot of it is, and I know this will get around to this at the end,
Starting point is 01:00:26 but the overall money and how much that kind of affected the how the tournament looked, you know, a long time the tour didn't want to talk about money. Now, it's obviously flashing everybody's faces. Did that change the outlook? I think it added definitely some drama to the end of it, specifically with like key positions at the very top, moving down, but curious on your guys' thoughts. I had to sell my list as well.
Starting point is 01:00:49 I don't know why they don't use graphics for it, especially a week like this. It would just ease, we care about that. People do care about that. They want to know if a putt is for $400,000. That's worth noting. That's interesting. Trying to pretend like it, you know, that they play for more than that, like they're playing for the spirit of the game
Starting point is 01:01:07 or FedEx Cup points, which are just poker chips, you know, you cash in for money at the end of the year. Like steer into it, it's freaking cool that you can't get a $20 million purse. I would love to be the cool man to say, like, you know, I just didn't, I don't even think about the purse. I didn't think about it at all this week.
Starting point is 01:01:24 I for sure did. Like, I hate saying it, I don't even think about the purse. I didn't think about it at all this week. I for sure did. Like, I hate saying it, but I think it like totally elevated the tournament in my mind. It's literally the richest golf tournament in the history of the world. And it's impossible not to think about that. And I feel like, for whatever reason, people can make fun of this all you like, I thought higher of the players this week than I think I ever have, going into it. And I think that affected, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:49 how I felt on Sunday. So Tom Hogi effect. It could be, it could be. I don't know what it is. But I mean, I think it's a lot of what we're saying, probably in the preview show in that. Part of it's just living here in Jacksonville, I think, and it's always kind of top of mind.
Starting point is 01:02:02 And you know, you're going to the media day and you're hearing about all the different things they're doing. And you've played the course a bunch of times and all that stuff is part of it. But it's, I don't know, man, it's just great to have a baseline of knowing all the holes. It's great to know exactly what's coming up around the corner. I think when we, you know, the US Open comes around,
Starting point is 01:02:22 if it's not a super familiar golf course, it's, you do your best to try to learn. Like, what's 14 again? Is that, and then by the time you learn it, the week is over. Exactly, but on, at Sawgrass, it's like, oh no, I know, like, oh my God, he's in the right rough. Like that pins in the front right, he's totally fucked.
Starting point is 01:02:38 I know, like, I just enhances the experience so much. The TV coverage is so freaking good when they get down the stretch and it's very, very limited commercials. It builds a drama. It's just like synthetic manufactured water drama coming down the stretch, but it works. So freaking fun to watch. It's a great mix of players that it was feeling a little terroristy for much of the week, but honor bond kind of acquitting himself and really like sticking around made for a super interesting storyline. It's just, I don't know, man, I had eight thumbs up for the players this week because everything
Starting point is 01:03:11 was, I can't imagine being dealt a more difficult, possible hand and everything was awesome this week. I had a blast. Everyone that had anything to do with it, I felt like they pressed every right button that they possibly could have. I mean, the timing of when they started and stopped play, the urgency at which getting players back out, you know, making it.
Starting point is 01:03:29 How about playing the ball down and throwing a set of plastic balls in the turn? Yeah. That just, I mean, like, really, really, really, like I thought they did an awesome job with this setup. This week, I thought they did an awesome, like the agronomy team, all of it.
Starting point is 01:03:43 I mean, like there was, there was not a whole lot of mud on the ball. No. The last two days, which is absolutely remarkable. Greens were a great speed. I think it kind of perils. Like you don't need greens to run it a zillion to have an interesting golf tournament.
Starting point is 01:03:58 If anything, it kind of makes it a little bit like more about the ball striking, less about the putting. I thought it played better as a week went along too. Thursday was kind of the backspin invitational and that was not that fun. I know there's skill that comes with controlling your backspin, but I don't find that style of golf that exciting. And that kind of went away as the week went on. And I don't know how they did that with that course condition.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Even going around, walking around and sitting in spots and stuff, it drained incredibly well. Even just walking around in the lack of mud, in the lack of, you know, they got a bunch of pine straws and spots or some sand and spots, but really overall, like, there was four and a half inches of rain and it was, it was, we're wondering if maybe, if maybe there's a some sort of underground water catch that is filling the mode, it was possible. I'd love to see some of the infrastructure, but it's not.
Starting point is 01:04:50 The mode or the data lake? Yeah, or possibly both. Well, that's the thing is, Cam might be the only one because of how often he plays here that knows that everything breaks towards the mode. Towards the mode, that's a great point. The, just with, I think Cam would support your Armada plan, by the way, as much as Berger would.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Cam might be everything that everybody wants DB Street vibe into be. God, that's a great take. Right? Yes. He had some great quotes in the earlier in the week about, you know, what would the money mean to you? He's like, I'm pretty good. I might buy some more fishing equipment or something like that, which is a heck of an
Starting point is 01:05:22 outlook to have when you're playing for that much money to not feel like to want to win the tournament more than you want the money is. It's even crazy. I mean, just looking at how much between this and century and Northern trust, like, is the last seven rate tournaments. I mean, I think Sam is, Caddy's probably made six or seven hundred thousand dollars. Right? But yeah, I don't know. I just think the tour is, they seem a lot more secure in themselves with the players,
Starting point is 01:05:51 except we can talk about Goldman. Goldman looms large over this entire conversation. Goldman notwithstanding everything else, it's a first class event and really you see, there's such a sense of pride, but there's such a sense of pride but there's also a sense of confidence from the tour now and not it's not just this this you know kind of plastic you know popcorn muscles it's and I think hey this is a legitimately great tournament. It almost becomes more interesting like we've had the you know actually I don't even think we've had the conversation because we always skip over it like the whole is it a major major? Is it not a major? Because like, of course not.
Starting point is 01:06:25 You don't just flip the switch unless you're the LPGA. But it's almost kind of cooler now that it's completely in its own category. Because I feel like maybe this is more of a me thing when I was a much more of a casual fan. The players did not stick out as much as it does now. And it has totally elevated itself to like, no, no, no, there's the majors, there's the players,
Starting point is 01:06:46 and then there's everything else. And that's, I don't know, that's really, really cool. I think if I watch worse majors, have like, have I been less excited about major championships? Paul's a pro Jimmy Walker. For sure. Am I saying it's a major? No, it's just, it's its own thing, which is really cool. And this is an unfair take, and there's not a realistic solution to this. But it would, it would help so much if this was the season finale. And it does not work with the schedule in September would not be a good tournament. It would be the course would actually play pretty good, probably, but her season that's true. It's hot and it's not realistic.
Starting point is 01:07:18 I know, but it would it would be an exclamation point on a season. It's just somebody said that. What if the, if I know the wrap around seasons probably going away, but if why not just push it in October or something or, or no, why don't you just like change the start date? I mean, I guess that mess is up like cap allua, but you don't that why not because then you know, but that I'm saying like you just change like, okay,
Starting point is 01:07:40 next week at Tampa is the first week of the season. And then you come all the way around, you know, a full calendar season all the way around. Just feel like ramp up and you have like the West Coast swing could be, you know, playoff events or whatever. You stepped the West Coast swing. Yeah, awesome. I think Cam also, apologies to whoever made that actual take that I stole that from, but Cam also like this was probably the most similar conditions that he plays like he plays sawgrass in these conditions. This is his home course. He also did get the good draw too, which is not surprising. But yeah, but but like, you know, the greens are relatively they're not like they're still soft.
Starting point is 01:08:19 The wind kind of died down. It's not like it's not turned up to a zillion, right? And that's probably where it went, when he feels super comfortable at sawgrass, is him playing it in, you know, September, October, and November when it's not ramped up to a million for the players. One more thing I'll get the tour credit for is they, I forget if we said this on the show and any other nights this week, but they're not concerned with the final score. They don't need to make it hard for the sake of hard.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Like, they're shot. There's easy holes that you can make birdies on, and there are hard holes out there, but it is not like we are not protecting score in any way. Which I think, were you guys saying that on the podcast? Whatever you have a winning score between 10 and 18 under, it's usually pretty freaking good tournament. And the players just always, always, always seems like it's
Starting point is 01:09:01 right in that like 13 to 16 range. And if it's more than 20, it's usually like perfect condition. Especially on a part 72. Yeah, it's normally like, all right, there's too many birdies or just, you know, there's no, there's not enough consequence, a long way. But there's clearly consequence here. I saw a question in the comments, which I am calling out because I was thinking the exact same thing.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Did anybody miss Bryson this week? Yeah, I will say hell yeah, absolutely. In that, if he would have had the bad draw, I can't tell you how much I would have wanted to watch Bryson out there. This is Bryson is... If for better or worse, he might have hit some unbelievable awesome shots.
Starting point is 01:09:35 The weirdest athlete I've ever encountered and that I just can't stand the guy, yet I love watching him play and kind of root form on the golf course. And I think that might just be for root to see him more. Yes. It might be for content purpose. I really don't know, but it's golf is funnier when he's playing good and more entertaining.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Which I think there's something to be said there, the cover story for golf digest. I don't know if it's this month or last month was kind of going into how people Rooting against him because he because he's different. He's different and he plays the game a different way I don't think that's why anybody's rooting against him right? I think that that got that so remarkably wrong It's not it's just because he's a dick That's it right. Yeah, that that piece was piece was tough. It was a tough read. Doug Gim. Doug Gim had a great week again. True horse for course, T6 this week,
Starting point is 01:10:33 even far around. Yeah, missed it. He had a good look on 18 to birdie it and make quite a bit more money from four feet seven inches and miss that one, that cost him a little bit. Who else? We got HV3 played well. Russell Knox. 18 to birdie it and make quite a bit more money from four feet seven inches and miss that when that costable who else we got H feet three played well Russell nox Adam Hadwin great great round the other side of the golf course Sep Strocka keeps it rolling exactly Russ Henley continues to be a iron iron god
Starting point is 01:10:56 He's just a total menace with irons. I think he led the field He did led the field and stroke scheme approach this week feel like we need to mention this in case people missed it on the telecast he did, led the field and stroke scheme approach this week. I feel like we need to mention this in case people missed it on the telecast, how his round went today. Start it, Henley. Started with a double bogey on 10, then made an albatross on 11. Albatross is potentially having a moment. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:11:14 More to come. Watch this space for potential future albatrosses. Which why is it not called a triple birdie? That's the best point. That was a great point. It was your best point of the day. I really enjoyed that. Birdie set that a bunch of bars. Birdie 17. Birdie's won. Eagles two. And then kind of
Starting point is 01:11:32 putters in from there. But truly outrageous round of golf. How Tommy played it? Well, real quick. Do you remember how worried I was about Tom Hogi finishing top 40? Yeah. He got dead heated. He finished T-33 with, and I got, How many other guys? There's a lot of guys. It's only a little bit of dead heat cut, but legitimately almost lost the tie. He doubled 17.
Starting point is 01:11:51 He almost lost the top 40. How time he put it? Time shot even today. Come on. Yeah. I want to give a shout out. They treated the caddies really well today. I heard that from a couple caddies.
Starting point is 01:12:03 You had, there was a barista in there, the barber. Was in there. There was a barber in there. There was a physio doing massages as well. And so the players, like the caddy stuff was so good that the players started infiltrating the caddies. That's where the sideburns bandit came from. He was in the caddy lounge. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:24 And so I heard from a couple caddies, one of the caddies said, I had a cut from the barber hard to get in due to all the players getting free cuts. So I asked the guy, I hope at least they tipped you well. He said, funny thing, the worst tip I got all week was from a player, not a caddy. How about that? Hmm. Hate that. So look at who got haircuts this week, I guess. As Kassad hates that name linked out. No, it's down to two guys. What the name? We're not going to say who it was.
Starting point is 01:12:50 What Matt's offered his fair. I'm out of the country traveling. What Matt's offered his fair? Was Matt in the field this week? I don't know. It was more of a joke. It wasn't Matt. He was actually because I saw him hit a bit of a poofer into.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Oh, remember, he hit the shot of the week. He hit like 190 yards on 17 over the Law Quay, uh, it was it was a non-US American Interesting which tipping culture. I just want to call out a comment right here from young Alex Hicks There you go right there Ken come on this plus very good chocolate chip cookies Alex Thank you for stopping by joining the car. the conversation was not one of my sources, but I'm glad to see that he could corroborate this. Alex, of course, the catty for his brother,
Starting point is 01:13:32 Harry Higgs, thank you for tuning in. Anything else? What else? I just had on the agenda kind of getting back to watching golf in person. A lot of, you know, not a lot of actually doing that the last couple of years, a lot of that's COVID. not a lot of actually doing that the last couple years, a lot of that's COVID. I think kind of fell out of the habit traveling for other stuff.
Starting point is 01:13:49 At least for me personally, unbelievably awesome to get back and watch golf. I'm curious what you guys is take away from the week impressions. Best thing you saw, things of that nature. Tough week for viewing just with, you know, the flow of the week and schedules and, you know, three sims off two sides. It's usually a weekend at players is awesome. Usually we can go out Thursday Friday morning too and find a guy and fall in for 18 holes. That was tough this week, but yeah, I mean, I hate every time I do this,
Starting point is 01:14:15 every time is the takeaway of just like, guys, they're really good. It's just the takeaway every time. It, the shots to 15 feet on TV that look very average are really, really, really freaking good golf shots. Walk them out and seeing those shots in person, just a reminder of how challenging, how real the win can be, you know, sometimes on TV it looks like they're playing in a dome and it looks like it should be easy and it's just freaking not.
Starting point is 01:14:38 And I know a scratch player probably would have top 20 out there this week, but, you know, it is, it was just, it was better than that. No. It's the fact that you did that to me the other night, right, right before bed. You're like, oh yeah, man, like, what'd you tweet? I don't know, I forget what it was. I've gone back to the well too many times
Starting point is 01:14:56 on that joke this week. You're like, oh, you know, like, I know you, I know you think that a scratch player would break 70 out there today, but then I got all these dipshit in my dimensions. So. I think along those lines, one of my biggest takeaways, not really something you can measure obviously,
Starting point is 01:15:11 but just watching guys, just how good their like mental games are. It's such a good reflection of how shitty your own mental game is when you picture yourself and you play back your own rounds of golf and how things just start moving quickly and you know one t-shot affects the next five shots and then you check out for a while and then all of a sudden you're like oh god
Starting point is 01:15:33 I'm like eight over through you know 11 holes like sweet. I guess today's done and then you you know You kind of check out massive credit to Paul Casey for making triple on the first hole Yeah, and having a chance to win the golf tournament essentially is just like that kind of stuff as a perfect example. But then also just watching like especially in the conditions, the ability to just check in, check out, like be completely committed on every shot. It's and then when you see the lapses is when you get to like 17 and guys are in between thoughts or whatever. And they're kind of afraid and then they hit like a high gross spinner in the water. It was just it was awesome to see those kind of two ends of the spectrum on display.
Starting point is 01:16:10 I'd be curious to know like how many of the guys that played Bay Hill last week played well this week because like they're nerves and their their attention span had to be a little bit afraid after after Bay hill and then coming here. You know, and then just how deep, how deep the tour is, how deep golf is right now. Like, you know, somebody was, somebody was on my last night because I was like, you know, like Pat and Kazair, like he's been informed, I said. And they're like, no, like he hasn't been informed. I'm like, all right, well, he's finished T42, T22, Miss cut, T10, T61, T32.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Like to me, for how freaking deep? I think people always forget that there's like a 156 guys in the field every week. So like finishing T32, yeah, 22 is really good. And there's like 250 really, really good golfers in the world. And I think now like somebody like Waka winning in LA, of like, there's like 30 of him, right?
Starting point is 01:17:07 It's not like there's 12 guys they can win every week. Deep two like a fault, basically. Yeah, like there's so much parity and it's so freaking hard to win. And like, yeah, there were a bunch of really, really good players 10, 15, 20 years ago, but it didn't even come close to the same depth. I don't think. Following up before I forget, we got a little bit of a follow up on the Waco stuff 15, 20 years ago, but it didn't even come close to the same depth. I don't think. Following up before I forget, we got a little bit of a follow up on the Waco stuff we were
Starting point is 01:17:29 talking about on, I forget whatever night that was when Waco was, Waking Neymar was playing with Cam and I made a comment about like, oh my god, you'd never believe the amount of Chilean golfers that were out there and there's little kids screaming in Spanish and it just like completely blew me away. Famos, famos! It was so freaking good. It was maybe the highlight of the week. But we got a follow up today that apparently he runs like an elite junior tour in like
Starting point is 01:17:55 kind of backwards from and bringing like apparently one of the perks was if you win certain age groups, I guess all those kids got a trip to the players. So I guess it wasn't a coincidence. There wasn't just a massive Chalane population in Jacksonville that I wasn't aware of. It was a little more orchestrated by Joaquin, who was actually like, no, no, no, like I'm gonna bring all these people in to the tournament,
Starting point is 01:18:19 which is really freaking cool. So awesome on him. Maybe that's why he's got his Delta sponsorship. It's possible. It's got Delta, Sebastian Munoz has Delta. That was well. Munoz had a tough day. He did. When I saw him where he was after his second shot on two or on one, it was like short left of that pin or he was short left of that green,
Starting point is 01:18:39 like in that little kind of sandy area. And there's just two or three palm trees right there. I'm like, I've never even been there before. That's a bad spot. A fast drop from coverage today for Sebastian Munoz, which is fair because there was a lot going on on that leaderboard. Can I take one on fairly unfair shot at the players? Please.
Starting point is 01:18:59 All right. Nightmare of a week, logistically, weather, all this stuff. Honestly, I think like all of the issues that they had would have been addressed by the PGL of a better leaderboard, 48 guys to get in. They could have gotten all of it in and sat at a Sunday if they wanted to. I'm not really down with the shotgun start format of the proposed PGL, but that would have helped get everyone in the house. For the people that were bemoaning, the leader board ended up very good by the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:19:26 but after 54 holes, it was not. And at some point, the player seems like one of those tournaments, you know, when and if the PGL happens, that the, it'll be one of the true 140, 150 guys playing. It'll be one of the true mixers of the, you know, of the year. I thought for sure you were going the media shuttle route when I heard the gist.
Starting point is 01:19:48 I'm not pulling a Kiwa, okay? We had one bad traffic incident that I was willing to keep between us but if you're gonna bring it up, then I think that's an unfair shot. Saturday was tough. Okay, that's fine. It's a unique circumstance.
Starting point is 01:20:01 We fought through it though. We did, we battled really hard. How did you get? Hey guys, question for you. Sebastian Munoz, what absolute horrible start to be in that rare position. What do you think like his overall recovery from that was though? Pretty impressive. Tell me what did he do?
Starting point is 01:20:17 He quizzed in. I guess I doubled 16 and bogey 17 and 18. But he was two on absolute horrible like final group. Start with what double or double double on one bogey on two, which is for like a double Dead dead and then somewhat turned it around until he played really, really bad. He played three through 15 to under par yet shot five over par for the day. That's tough. That's tough.
Starting point is 01:20:44 That's tough. That's tough, that's tough. It's gonna happen. The par-fives are so good. Yeah. They're just like, like, they can, you can get caught with your hand in the cookie jar or you can do something absolutely spectacular. I thought Brennan's steel finished.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Oh yeah, there was a stop the steel situation. He was sniffing around. Yeah, he bogeyed seven. I think we gotta look into his soul though on 17 as well. He did it like 90 feet away from the hole. Yeah. So is it a gust of time? I mean, I'm kind of, I think the eyes start turning
Starting point is 01:21:15 towards a gust of that's traditional. We have his match play. We got Val Spar. We got Val Spar and then Match Play. And then Valero and then we're there. Oh, smokes. It's right around the corner. I think I'm hoping for it.
Starting point is 01:21:26 I'm hoping that like in a month we're reading a presser from Agusta, if you want to like the ultimate hopeful right here, a presser that's like, you know, it's from Rory and he's saying, you know, I was really struggling with my game and I could have mailed it in that final round that Monday and I went out and found something and ever since then I clicked.
Starting point is 01:21:40 I was reading some quotes from Warner von LeHury and he said, you never know what it's your week. And you know, and so, and so I got some word today that no names will be shared, but heard from multiple sources at the tour. So that's a crispy side. That the inventor or the the the
Starting point is 01:22:02 ideator of the gold man gold boy, whatever you want to call it He's been no because he's good many known aliases He he or she left the tour weeks ago Really saddled them with gold man and then And bounce there was an incredible article on golf channel with, you know, the article was, the author of the article, Brentley Romain, was not, he was not, he was not trying to sell you on goldmine. He was just laying out the facts.
Starting point is 01:22:32 He was laying out the quotes from the, from the guy or from the program or whatever. The famous group, the famous group that they created. That's the name of the firm. Yeah, they are laying it on pretty thick. The quotes are unbelievable. Like, they would blow your mind in terms of like how important this was to the telecast. laying it on pretty thick. The quotes are unbelievable. They would blow your mind in terms of how important this was to the telecast.
Starting point is 01:22:49 And I encourage you to turn it on. To her now has a character that they can lead on. Yes. He could have team Rose, you have to have that side you can lean on. He developed his own personality as a week went along is what the originator said about it. He had plenty of time after they locked him in a closet
Starting point is 01:23:03 after a Thursday or Friday. Did the goal man make an appearance today? Oh yeah, he came up this morning. Really? Yeah, he did the Ricky shot. They brought him back. Yeah, I'm not going to give any spoilers, but I, you know, it's 8.30, probably if you've done the wordl, if you're going to do the wordl today, you've probably already done it.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Massive shout out to the team with the New York times for, you know, in a watch. Luke Turner was stoked about it. Exactly. That's all I'm gonna say. DJ's habitual, habitual wordless spoiler. No, if you're not doing it first thing in the morning, I don't know what to tell you. I do it before. Well, that's, no, that's the definition of a spoiler. That's on your schedule. That's, that's not how this works. You should have already done it. Guys, take the oral stuff elsewhere. So, anything else, are we good to wrap from a long S week?
Starting point is 01:23:51 How was coverage? Good? That was good. Again, they were really trying to sell us on Paul Casey, like it was the culmination of a career was coming down to this moment, and I don't know who that was for, I really don't, but other than that.
Starting point is 01:24:05 For the hundreds of thousands of rapid fans that, yeah, the people, I got 175 replies to my tweet again asking. It was also for Peter Costas who got, who got canceled on ceremoniously a couple of months ago. That was not great, but, but yeah, it was coverage. It was coverage, it was coverage. It was fun. It felt like a big tournament.
Starting point is 01:24:24 They did, again, they had so many curveball thrown at them and honestly it was coverage. Yeah, it was coverage. It was fun. It felt like a big tournament. They did, again, they had so many curveball thrown at them. And honestly, it was for everyone attending the event. Anyone could get in the gates today if you had a ticket at any point. It ran like a normal tournament day, and that's not easy to do. I know it's an enormous stress room, so I'm glad they got it in.
Starting point is 01:24:41 I took, like I said last night, I took my family or my son Freddie yesterday. Baved your yokes, son. Yeah, shout out to Chris Kirk and Josh Elliott. But yeah, we were standing on 16 T and like, you know, it was like a 90 minute interval between like, all right, every 90 minutes he has to go to the bathroom. Every 90 minutes he's hungry,
Starting point is 01:25:02 every 90 minutes he's thirsty. Like you gotta hit all the bingo cards every 90 minutes. And so he's like all three of those things. We're standing the left of 16T and he just won't shut up, right? He's just talking and talking. I'm like, yo, you gotta be quiet. He's still whispering and all that.
Starting point is 01:25:18 And what, and Cam Smith is teeing off. And I'm like, dude, I put my hand on his mouth so hard. And I'm like, dude, and I just, I put my hand on his mouth so hard. And I was like, yo, shut up. That's a pretty, so shout out to all the parents at golf tournaments out there. It is a nerve-wracking experience. I'm always gonna get worse as the person's go up. I'm always terrified to open up my phone
Starting point is 01:25:41 and some videos just gonna start blaring and somebody's backswing your you drop a water bottle. I thought you were going to have the the tours Shrek TikTok blaring as you know. What was that? Oh God, we'll show you. I'll leave that as a D-streg for the people. If you'd like to go look up the PGA Tours TikTok, the Shrek video, it's very akin to the Goldman, the Goldman technology.
Starting point is 01:26:03 Had a few conspiracy theorists in the DMs today as well, talking about Scott Pierci, there was a, which conspiracy theorists out here, that would have disheveated. Really, but no, as far as the cell phone going off, like in his swing when he moved the cut line on 17. Could have been one of the players calling them from the clubhouse interesting it's a true who could say it's got the call logs for that one.
Starting point is 01:26:30 What a question on the screen who's the master's favorite is from Kevin Briley master's favorite as of today. Good question. Very obvious if you ask me. Who? Rom speed. I would say JT. I would say rom. I think it's JT. I think rom is a very unsexy answer, but I think if you're looking at the math and the past performances and who has the best chance to kind of play well, that seems like my answer. I'm definitely saying ROM. JT, what if JT had any really good finishes there? He's been kind of stinky hasn't he? He's, I mean, outside of Quail Hollow, his major record is a little bit stinky.
Starting point is 01:27:04 What does aren't real majors either? He's, I mean, outside of Quail Hollow his major record is a little bit stinky. Oh, it's those aren't real majors either. That's true. People get that. People get that as well. I'm surprised Rory hasn't won a major at Quail Hollow. It is a real major because Louis finished second in that one. What else? I was gutted for you guys that picked Louis to win this week.
Starting point is 01:27:16 What did Louis do today? T42, 4 over 76 today. Yuck. That's not good. God, I rocked him, baby. Cam. That's like three or four big weeks in a row. Big shout out to my guy Ian, I saw on Twitter that took our advice on Thursday night, put
Starting point is 01:27:33 a hundred bucks on real money on Cam. On the Dingo? Yeah, so enjoy. He was like 30 to one, right? JT had a solo fourth at the fake masters in 2020 and that's his best finish. But it was trending until last year at T21. T22, T17, T12, fourth, T21. So. All right. Okay. Watch this. It's not like speed at sawgrass. Right. It's like, can't even find the club. It's not right here.
Starting point is 01:27:56 Yeah. Maybe you don't need to play this one. Yeah. So anything else? I think that's it. Longest week. And I only, it was one extra day, but it felt. Weeks, it was eight days. It was a taxing, taxing week. I'm very glad this got done today, but on to Valspar. Shout out to friend of the program, Luke Guthrie, apparently got through the, the, what they qualify.
Starting point is 01:28:18 It Valspar, so good luck to him. I think Valspar is gonna be a good tournament, like kind of post major, similar to like a harbor town, kind of thing, just a good easy one. Kick your feet up. Kick your feet up and just like watch some good golf. And it's also, it's like a super interesting golf course, like for pro golf.
Starting point is 01:28:35 So. Thank you everyone for tuning into the live shows all week. All 2,000 of you that are currently watching live on YouTube, I think right now it's greatly appreciated. Makes these weeks go by really fast. And they're a lot of fun for us. So thank you for for doing that and supporting the show. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:28:49 So I took Craig as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I took Craig's sponsor and all Cody for producing as well. This has been a treat to have somebody running the ones and twos for us. So thank you for all that hard work. Hey Cody, first time at the players last thing.
Starting point is 01:29:00 What was your biggest takeaway? After playing it and being extremely nervous about how the video was going to be received, just to impress the like how they move it out of the rough specifically, I mean, it's pretty easy to hit fairways there, but if you're off by a little bit with that much water and how saturated the course was, just them being able to hit the quality iron shots, it was crazy. 17 lived up to everything that I thought it was going to be in beautiful weather, in rain, and in freezing weather. Sorry, I apologize. It's one of the tournaments that I like.
Starting point is 01:29:33 I'm gonna say the rain that one day. I apologize for that. Yeah. Well, you came prepared to sell. It was good. But yeah, I think it was, it's awesome. And awesome tournament, if anybody has opportunity to go check it out, it's definitely something that I'm excited for next year already. So it's, it was great. Thanks for having me down. Thanks to the lovely club old down on their honeymoon right now in the Owen Carson for offering up
Starting point is 01:29:57 the, their doma style and let me crash down there for a couple of days. So I'm excited on to a gust of we go. Love it. And getting, getting late reports that Omar Euresti is in the field this week at the Vals bar. Really? Yeah. Real on a sponsor's exemption. Oh, somebody is in the comments saying that. So that could, okay, that could be a prank. But that's the case. Also, like, I don't know, like, I feel like guys have to be I can't imagine there's going to be some mega burned out with draws. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:24 Yeah, I don't know. Also, get wells. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Also, get well soon, Mr. Big. I don't know. Yeah. He doesn't tap out very often. So you must be feeling pretty under the weather. Yeah. Right. And the last thing real quick, just kind of heartwarming story. I think of like the last two weeks as if people have been following the junior golfer out of Ukraine and the piece that was written on him. We saw him do that two weeks ago. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, as crazy as long as a week as it was kind of for us, how short I'm sure it feels for him, but him and his mom able to move down to Orlando. Great job by the lead better is in opening up the academy and getting him enrolled there.
Starting point is 01:31:01 His dad stayed in Ukraine to join the rest of the fighting-age males that are continuing with that, but incredible story and kind of really cool to see the golf community come together and support something like that. So bravo to everybody involved. Hey, man. Hey, man, to that. We saw him on the first team. It was like, man, I'm sure this is probably about as far away from what he was feeling
Starting point is 01:31:23 about a week ago as physically possible. So congrats to everyone for getting for doing that. That was a great story. Hey man, speaking of which we should just they should give one of the confiscated Russian oligarch yachts. They should give one of those to Cam. I think that'd be very generous. I like that idea. More on this later. Watch this space. I'm looking at Omar Euresti as PGA Club Professional Champion. He gets in on that note. Six events. He gets into six events here.
Starting point is 01:31:52 Wow. Very cool. All right guys. Thanks you everyone. Thank you Cody. Cheers. Everyone have a great week. Cheers. I'm going to be the right club today.
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