No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 536: Match Play Recap

Episode Date: March 28, 2022

A new world number one is crowned in Austin as Scottie Scheffler wins the WGC Match Play to overtake Jon Rahm as the top ranked player in the world. We break down Scheffler's win, appreciate Kevin Kis...ner's continued excellence in the event and debate the need for more match play events in pro golf. Plus Lee Westwood's week on twitter, the latest on Tiger's comeback and Spieth's swing changes, early Masters odds, your questions and more.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:47 He's got golf signature sip sitting by his side. He's back in the kill house after some time away. Mr. Neil Schuster, hello, Neil. Hello, it's good to be back. It's good to have you back. I, you know, I left, kind of stopped watching golf about a month ago and all of a sudden Scottie Shuffler's number one of the world.
Starting point is 00:01:02 That's a weird time period. It's kind of weird. Now I'm like back on the grid and things have changed. So, I thought things were gonna change in a very different way. I thought I was gonna come back and all these guys would be playing in Saudi Arabia or something,
Starting point is 00:01:14 but like it's, come on, we're not gonna talk Saudi this week. No, but I was expecting like all this big stuff to happen when I was gone, but I can tell you that I didn't have Scottie Shepler being number one in the world when I got back. And it was time away by choice. By choice. Yes, yes, yes, for sure.
Starting point is 00:01:30 No, I was not suspended by any means. We do not, you know, we don't comment on disciplinary matters, you know, current or future ones. But the first major of the year is upon us with the LPGA heading to Rancho, Mirage, California this week. Quick guessing game. How many majors do you think have been one with an Odyssey putter since 2010? So we're talking male and female? Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I mean, there's been 12 years of 560 and then another 40. I would say 40 majors. I was going to say between 40 and 50. 64. 64 majors won by Odyssey as we as we wrap Odyssey month, which you may have noticed via PGA touring LPGA tour players carrying special bags, touting the number one putter on tour. Quick around the horn, what putters you all are using T.C.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I know it's going to take a while for you. Yeah, right now I have a tour lined 11 s in lefty and a tour line 11 s in righty. And I also have a tri-hot number three that I just put in the bag. Righty. Yeah. Any supply issues that have been going on the golf industry have been mostly due to TC. Doing some tests. I've got Keisha still. Stroke Lab 7. I love it. It's with the triple track on it. So helps me, helps me line it up a little bit. So I actually got one of those new white hots, the new throwbacks. A number seven, like retro one, it's nice, but I, you know, I kind of had a little honeymoon phase with it. Now I'm back to the, uh, Trident true.
Starting point is 00:02:51 You're reducing your question. Yeah. You had, like, Keisha was a previous putter. And then you got her with the triple track. Yeah. So she had some plastic surgery. Yeah, yeah. A little bit, but a little bit of work done.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Yeah. You know, we, she's better than ever. She's feeling great. Guy, you guys made me nervous sometimes. Kevin Kizner also uses an Odyssey 7, which he had quite a successful week, which we'll talk about. I use an Odyssey O-Work 7.
Starting point is 00:03:13 We had a little, a giveaway going on this week, an Odyssey step back, we'll be giving away. We do, starting Thursday, check our Instagram channel. We're gonna be posting it. That's just a heroic, heroic put that I made against TC long ago in Ireland. And encourage people to send a heroic, heroic putt that I made against T.C. Long ago in Ireland. And then courage people send in the most epic putt that they've made or that they've caught on film and we'll be giving away the, the staff bag. The one you saw, Kisner rocking,
Starting point is 00:03:34 Leashman had it on all the, all the, all the Callaway staffers had it out there this month. So we'll be giving that away on Friday this week. On to the WGC match play at the Dell technologies, whatever it's called, way too many words in this name. WGC Tim Fincham special that I sorry, I left that out there, but Scotty Schaeffler is that dude after finishing running it, runner up to Billy Horser last year wins at Austin Country Club. Of course, he's quite familiar with as you may have garnered from the telecast this past
Starting point is 00:04:01 week. So Scotty Schaeffler moves to number one in the world. I'll ask this question though, is Scotty Schaeffler the best player in the world? I think even if he didn't win today, I think he's playing the best of anybody in the world right now. He's the hottest golfer in the world. That's why I don't know if that's a different question
Starting point is 00:04:17 than is he the best golfer in the world? I also really enjoy watching him play golf. Oh yeah. It's the way, you know, the foot move, it's very engaging. He's a soccer. Yeah, he goes after the ball. He's a shot maker. I like watching him and Ted Scott, you know, discussing things.
Starting point is 00:04:35 He seems like he's pretty thoughtful, you know, pretty shot. And he's thinking, thinking through a lot of stuff, like, very collaborative with his caddy. So I've really enjoyed this week watching him watching him work. So you got anything you want to say? Uh, yeah. I was campaigning super hard for him to be on the Ryder Cup team. I against, you know, pushing back against the Twitter community that wanted people with much worse of, uh, of a fit in there. So I think I was the earliest one on the Scotty Shuffler train of any of us here. So I don't
Starting point is 00:05:01 know if you have anything you want to add here. So I would give, I would like to give TC a shout out. He has been on that, he had shotgun on the bandwagon with with Chef or you've been on it for, I would say three years was kind of that that rookie year he was out when you were like smoking Scottie, smoking Scottie, you were just constantly talking about. That's because he was on his Fred X cup team though. I'd just be clear.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Which is, but he deserves credit for picking them on. No, it was it before that it was when he almost won the Savannah, the Cornfairy Savannah event up the landings, I think he finished second. And basically, I have the utmost respect for guys who get their tour card, like, you know, come through Cornfairy tour, get their tour card immediately, keep it, like it's just, his rise has been, I remember asking you why you liked him back then, and he makes a million birdies. Like he just goes out,
Starting point is 00:05:52 and he'll just get super hot, and just make every birdie some rounds, and that stuck with me, that kind of description of him. I just love the way he plays golf. He hits a bunch of shots, like watching today, he had that super low-treld driver on,
Starting point is 00:06:09 was that on eight, I think. And then, you know, just, I think he's excellent on those par of threes. They're so awkward and short, and you gotta hit these little manufactured shots, and he's a pitcher, not a thrower. Yeah. It's a unique skill set.
Starting point is 00:06:22 It's not dominated by any, you know, one category just does everything really well. He's not, he hits it plenty far, but he's not a bomber. He's not just a stroke scheme. Menace off the tee. He hits irons good, but not more a cow of good. He's not the best putter on tour. But some of all parts right now is, is adding up to an incredibly hot golfer that can close golf tournaments now. I just think it's worth noting that he goes out and wins in the desert, dome golf 80 degrees, you know, kind of typical stadium golf aerial, hit it high, hit it flush, you know, just a big boy PGA tour golf course at TPC Scottsdale, then goes to Orlando and wins on narrow fairways, thick ass rough, firmest greens imaginable, Bermuda greens, totally different atmosphere,
Starting point is 00:07:03 then goes to a 6,600 yard match play course, Austin Country Club with funky bounces, elevation change, you know, distance totally mitigated and he goes and wins there all in the span of two months. Like that is, that's showing off skill that like, you know, I mean, we, this is not a shot at Kizner. I kind of want to talk a little bit about what, you know, the world of golf would look like if distance
Starting point is 00:07:23 wasn't such a prerequisite, but like, he has, Kisner has a few courses that pop up annually that are good places for him to compete. Whereas, like, Scotty shows up literally anywhere and he should be able to compete. Yeah. We got it. We got one of the, one of the questions that was sent in here, which is Luke 9521. Should we be grabbing these Sheffler 40-1 numbers for the US and British Opens for Sheffler? I would say 100. I'd probably gone down by the time you're listening to this, but Sheffler 40 to one numbers for the US and British opens for Sheffler. I would say 100. They're probably gone down by a time you're listening to this, but masters odds are always smaller because it's a smaller field.
Starting point is 00:07:51 But I mean, yeah, looking down the road a little bit for, you know, some of those terms that maybe don't have the odds as refreshed. Absolutely. Scottie's played in, uh, he's played in seven majors since he turned pro, uh, missed the cut at the 2019 US open, T19 at the Masters in 2020, T4 at Harding Park in 2020, and then T18, T8, T7, T8 last year in the majors. I mean, like, I think the only knock you could possibly have on him with with St Andrews would be like, he hits the ball really high and if it gets windy, but it seems like he,
Starting point is 00:08:26 he just got all the shots and he played really well at Brookline during the USAM there. Well, they were talking about how high he hits it today on the telecast, a moment stood out to me, similar to what you were saying about the Part 3s, on 17 against DJ in the semi finals, when started blowing and he took nine iron and the announced like, well, he's gonna have to flight this down.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Like, that's way too much club. And he just, yeah, he just hits this like saw it off, like, you know, quarter swing or three quarter swing nine iron. And it was like, you know, on command, it's like exactly what he needed to do. We need to flight it lower. He can do that and, you know, he closed out the match right there. It was pretty impressive.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I'd say pitcher not a thrower is a very apt description of it. He can throw change ups. He can throw 88 on the corner and he's got a 97 on our fastball when he wants to and it's got it's kind of I wonder if you rarely see somebody do this in the stretch up to the Masters and go out and win the Masters non-Cat category. So I don't know if this necessarily changes anything. I think about the Masters. I think it's a different expectation to go in as number one player in the world. Press conferences, the whole works he's going to have.
Starting point is 00:09:29 But I've, yeah, bold. Take it. I don't, I'm not going to say he's not going to win, but I don't think it doesn't really change what I think for a couple of weeks from now. So it's still going to win. I would, it was cool to see him get emotional after the win today. And we were talking while we were watching that of it's, it's not like he's not LeBron or Tiger that was, this guy is going to be the number one,
Starting point is 00:09:49 he's not anointed. It's not a hype machine. It was not a hype machine. It's all of a sudden, it's like, yeah, I get back from my honeymoon, this guy's the number one player in the world, and you look at it, you're like, well, God, he deserves it.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Like, he's just done, you know, the results speak for themselves, but there's been no, it kind of snuck up on everybody. And it looks like it even snuck up on him because I was like, man, he's getting really emotional. I was like, I guess he knows that he's the number one player in the world or is it winning at home? Like, I was trying to figure out like what the, uh, all the above, right? And it's just a grind of a week too. Yeah. And I think also it's, you know, we talked about this last week with Sam Burns. Like, he has three wins and that's the result of being in contention a lot.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Like getting in contention eight times and winning three out of eight is a lot. Like that's, you, you, it's, it'd be unrealistic to get in contention three times and expect three wins. So you go back and look at chef's record. He had three runner ups in 2021, a third place in 2021. Also had a runner up in 2020 and a third place in 2020 and in 2020 as well. He had, he had 10 top 10s last year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:47 And they played really well in the fall. How close we were with waist management to being like, oh man, he's, if he doesn't win this, right. Now we're going to start talking about, you know, a female situation guy can't close. He's always, you know, he just, you know, is he one of those guys that can't win? And then a true breaking the door down. Yeah. Like kind of, you know, I wouldn't of those guys that can't win? And then a true breaking the door down like kind of, you know, I wouldn't say
Starting point is 00:11:06 he ran that one running away. He made that awesome putt, but he, you know, he and can't lay were kind of like, no, no, no, no, no, no, you should take this one. No, no, I won't. I'll give it back to you. And then now it's like, okay, he, he, you know, that also speaks to like the, the thin lines though and pro golf, like he was in a, how many whole playoff with Matt Fitzpatrick to get out of his group Yeah, five or six holes of group play in on Friday afternoon
Starting point is 00:11:31 So it you know if Fitzpatrick runs in one putt against him We're not having this conversation right now But just goes to show like yeah the more especially in a match play tournament, man It's like it's we'll talk some of about the, you know, the guys that played great that didn't get through, the guys that played horrible and did get through. And that's the beauty of this event. And it's a great, great change of pace in that regard. But indulge me a little bit more like last year, Scotty.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I mean, solo second at this event. Obviously, you can't tie him second at this. And then T8 at the PGA, third at the memorial, T7 at the US Open, T12 at the Scottish Open. Like he's just like, uh, fourth at myocoba. Like it's just like all sorts of different golf courses. I mean, the dude is of like just so much variety in his game. And just to back that up on the Stroke's gain front, like that's what that's where that those numbers show out, right?
Starting point is 00:12:23 A ton of top 10s, top fives is beating so many, really, really, really, really freaking good golfers on an incredibly consistent basis, which is just, it's mind blowing. It really is. And I guess our ass, like anybody who doesn't feel like he's the best golfer in the world right now, who is? It really depends on how you look at what time frame you look at. I mean, yeah, he has one won three of his last five starts. That's no one can really compare to that.
Starting point is 00:12:50 But, you know, Cam Smith didn't play this week. And he is won twice so far this year and coming off a win at the biggest tournament at the best field that we've had so far this year. So it's easy to get caught up here on a Sunday night with that guy as the best player in the world right now. But, you know, JT has had an incredible start to the year and doesn't have the wins to follow it, but like has been playing some of the best golf in his career numbers wise.
Starting point is 00:13:10 But yeah, if you're looking at like strokes gained over the last three months, which wouldn't include this tournament, which is a screw tournament anyways. Sheffler's fifth in the past three months with Cam Smith and JT and walking you in and fits Patrick leading the way in that. Or you go back to Sony, like, you know, Hadecki was like, when some masters, he won Zozo, then he wins the Sony. And you're like, man, he's gonna, he might be a freight train this year, right? And I think he's cooled off since, but there's just so much.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I'm sure there's so many good golfers right now. It's unbelievable. And there's a lot of noise in that stuff too, because like you, like, yeah, it's Chef out of T 55 of the players, and that's gonna really hurt you in stroke scheme numbers, but yet you, like, yeah, it's Chef out of T 55 of the players. And that's going to really hurt you in stroke scheme numbers. But yet, you would never trade the three weeks that he's had, like the stretch he's had. You can shoot 80, 80 at the players, whatever. That's going to
Starting point is 00:13:53 hurt your numbers a lot. But like, you would obviously want that stretch of golf. But I mean, yeah, it's easy to forget Cam Smith came is coming off a win. And he missed the cut at Sony T4 at that over that tournament over there in Asia, forget what that one's called. T33th Genesis and then he won the players. So that's pretty good. Yeah, T7 at the Genesis for Scotty too.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Like it's like even some machine dude. I mean he's fucking balling people. He might be the buoy. Now that I think about it, you can't sink it. This golf tournament man, it works. It just freaking works. I had such a delight watching the early part of the week, especially watching dudes watching the ball roll a lot watching
Starting point is 00:14:29 370 yard holes that Kevin Kisner can drive and watching totally quirky shots that probably wouldn't work for some weird reason and stroke play for these guys, but match play, they're totally fine to play it and no one complains about it. And it's such an upgrade over Dove Mountain. And it's such an upgrade over Dove Mountain. And it's such an upgrade over driver wedge stock shots that we see so many weeks on PGA tour. It's just a delight. What was the best match for your favorite match you saw this week? Fits, Sheffler comes to mind.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Fits Patrick's been playing some really, really good golf. And that's kind of unlucky break for him to get that bracket, if you will. That one comes to mind. It's sometimes hard. I don't mean to make this a coverage take. It's sometimes hard to tell what matches are good. And I feel like they really missed the boat on Hobel and Zalatoris, which, well, this was a perfect week for ESPN plus because you could watch in some of the feature matches early in the week helped me stay. I almost on Wednesday, I got like, I had it on and I just couldn't focus
Starting point is 00:15:26 because they're jumping around. I can't keep track of the pool play, which we talk about. And so there's no, I don't have anything like, there's no buy-in for me. But then I switched over some of the feature matches and it was like, all right, you know what, I'm just going to, they've picked it for me. I'm just going to watch this match and that way, you know, I'll zone out for three holes and then I'll look up and that was more enjoyable. I think my favorite match that I watched was Kisner versus Adam Scott. I mean, sorry to Adam Scott, but just lost the last four.
Starting point is 00:15:55 And just kind of watching Kisner do Kisner things as he kept alluding to on the broadcast being annoying was like the definition of that against Adam Scott. They couldn't be more opposites as like basically humans and golfers. And Kisner's just like, oh yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and just snatch this from you in the last four holes. It was a true Icarito from Adam Scott too, which is, you know, he's been known to do that as well.
Starting point is 00:16:18 You want to, should we talk Kisner? Well, just favorite match. Well, yeah, sorry. I love watching Billy Horseshoe play match play. It's good. He expects everything to go in and he gets so fiery when it doesn't. He lost one down to Scotty. I thought Max DJ, like I was rooting for Max obviously,
Starting point is 00:16:35 but DJ was making 25 footpots and when DJs hitting the ball well and making 25 footpots, like he's the best player of all time. Of course. And then lastly, I got to give a shout out to my guy, Blandi. Well, Blandi Brison was one of the great killers. But now I was going to say that was, I was going to ask you guys, what was your least favorite? It was a worse match. I said, I text you guys, like, I need my money back after I watched that entire match.
Starting point is 00:16:59 It was so brutal. It was bad golf from start to finish. Careful British Twitter is going to be all over you. No, Brison off the first tee he hit it into the morgue. Oh, like that lifted up the curtain on and I think KVV tweeted that I was like I thought the exact same thing I looked up I'm like what are the medical officers doing it what happened brand-deeds and walking Yeah, like what what the hell happened? It's the first hole like if somebody hurt WGC NCIS Dell Technologies match play That match was so bad.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Blandy, Blandy, Blandy, Blandy getting through that group playing like Taylor Gucci's playing great golf right now. Blandy had like 17 greens against him or, you know, and then Blandy going up against against DJ and it was, you know, two of the foremost competitors of our time. Be careful with any jokes. We'll get to know it's cool to see, you know, that was tough. I want to see a guy as old as Scott Sheffler and a guy like, you know, Blaney, both having these just late bloomers out here doing big things on the PGA tour.
Starting point is 00:17:55 This year, I could have been Blaney right up there in that spot. That's right. It is like, Matt McNeely played some of the, like, if you looked at the data golf strokes gained for the first three matches, Matt Mc, and Eli was the best player in the field and didn't make it out of his bracket. And Blanding and Adam Scott were the two worst players, but made it out of their bracket because their whole brackets were just a total mess. Adam Scott was in the Kegan Bradley Jordan speed, Justin Rose bracket that was just horrific. How about the Mav, you know, showing out and he was the last guy in the field. Right stomped walking Neiman. Yeah, that was impressive. I was like, and when they say that, they're like,
Starting point is 00:18:27 yeah, he was the last guy in. I think he got in because I maybe came with Drew or San Burns, San Burns. Yeah. And it just hit me and like, Mav's the 64th dude. Like how deep is golf right now? And you know, that's when it hits you.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And then you see what he's doing to my guy, Keene, you know, just just murder out there on the right first match. Great setting for him to like smart players, cerebral player, knows where to hit it, playing, you know, all sorts of different angles match play, knows where his risk is all that. The 17th and 18th holes fit so great in this format too. I mean, 18 is depending where the pin is, is not automatically driver. If the pin's up front, you don't want to drive it all the way to the bottom. It's just quirky. There's slopes to play watching Kisner close out his match this morning just hitting it up the slope. Bring it all the
Starting point is 00:19:12 way back was just like, God, I just such a more entertaining way to watch golf. Balls bouncing off hills all week on the par threes and you don't know where it's going to bound and guys having to judge the wind on top of the elevation change. It's just a whole different element. You can see guys just get more engaged with their round because of that more engaged with the caddy conversations. It's my favorite style. There's a lot more like a simple thing that I notice is there's a lot more guys aren't doing the early t-grab as much at Austin Country Club.
Starting point is 00:19:41 They're like, they hit a good one. And they're like, oh, stay left. You know, it's like, because right at the very, you know, it's going to land at 290 300. And it's going to roll to 350. And they're like, just watching the ball on the ground until it stops, which is cool. Toward golf being, toward golfers being concerned about where their tee shots finish versus how far they carry is way like watching on the fifth hole, like trying to get the ball to stop. Like, how do you get the ball to stop on that green? It's not about your distance to reach it like Kevin Kizner can get there But it's about missing in the right spot and playing the proper pins. It's really good even like eight and nine
Starting point is 00:20:17 Same thing on nine holes. It's like the balls little funky. Oh, super fun. But to T. They're like hitting three wood and they're like, oh god Please don't go in the hazard. Yeah, you. But for once, we're watching the wheels turn. Yes. And these guys heads and they're thinking, and also it was so refreshing to see them turn the sprinklers on immediately after the groups grow through, which means that they've stressed the course
Starting point is 00:20:36 and that they've let it go and they've tried to get it as firm and fast as possible, which isn't always the case. Correct. What is it about 17 that these guys are so befuddled? 135 yard shots at times and they just totally whiff on the green. I don't see that from any, at that distance on tour,
Starting point is 00:20:54 I don't see them fuck that up nearly as bad as they do in Austin Country Club anywhere else. Even the way the land goes down and then up, I think it's the way the wind hits the ball there. Slope of that green. It's a back part. It's a super small green for all intents and purposes because there's only so much usable space on it.
Starting point is 00:21:12 But you can tell the guys that are placed somewhat smart or more comfortable on that shot versus the guys that are used to hitting it on the green and then it's stopping right there. I want to talk some Kisner, which of course it is not. This is not a hobby for Kisner. And this is not a hobby for us because this is not, we don't do this for fun. This is a business for us.
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Starting point is 00:22:29 is it time to just relitigate the whole, he should have been on the writer's account? I don't want to, we already had this conversation. It's all in time. I got like 50 tweets about it. He's got to be on every team going forward. The US hadn't had a historic win that made me, but it didn't, like like they didn't need them.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Now, I kind of I would say I'd be cool with him. Clearly, he's like really good at this format. And I know it's the course. It's also really good at this golf course. I know, but I would let you know it would be great for this whole argument. Just put him on the team. It's one, it's an exhibition too. It's, you know, that's my take.
Starting point is 00:23:03 For the presence cup, I'm fine. So let's do whatever. Put them on the present cup team. And then everybody can, we'll see what his record is. And maybe it's like, yeah, this guy's just like, he's just a savvy, savvy match play competitor. I would say quail hollow, not going to be good for him. I'm not maybe to the same extent that whistling isn't, you know, a good fit for him.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Also, I just, he's played in a presence cup before he was two, oh, and two in 2017 at Liberty National, which also wouldn't be a great a good fit for him. Also, I just, he's played in the presence cup before. He was 202 in 2017 at Liberty National, which also wouldn't be a great, great fit for him. You know, I don't, the US team is obviously gonna win the presence cup by a lot. So I'm fine with sacrificing a spot. I just don't know who he's taking off the team. It might be Fina right now. Careful what you wish for.
Starting point is 00:23:39 There's some, there's some guys in the international team that are starting to flash. T.C. is literally wearing his international presence cup logo hat. Yeah. It's our favorite hat. I have a white one on a black one. I wear like every day. They got their top heavy.
Starting point is 00:23:50 They got like four guys that are, you know, very, very legit. It's just the depth is a, it's an issue. When you compare to the US team, it's insane. It's freaking March. All right. Like, Mito Pereira is going to be in this summer. If we were going to Roa Melbourne, I would not definitively say the US is gonna win this.
Starting point is 00:24:07 But anyways, back to the kids in the park. He sees an international team advisor. Yeah. He's been brought on, he's on a retainer with the international team. Kisner is one of the unique case studies of this generation in terms of, it's amazing that specific golf courses
Starting point is 00:24:23 that he's highlighted the ones that pop up, that he is immediately able to compete, right? Think how much more pressure goes on him for the weeks where, you know, it's not bomb and gouge and he's not giving up, it's just, he's not paying the same penalty off the tee, you know, as some of the other Beth Page Black is the example they keep using.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Yet at the same time, like, Kisner is every single year, keeping his card is like not even a question. Yeah. And when you're talking about somebody with that style of game, Yet at the same time, like, Kizner is every single year, keeping his card is not even a question. And when you're talking about somebody with that style of game, how easy would be to fall off of that and not, it's kind of a coocher-esque in that regard. And he's not accomplished as much as Koocher, but the fact that Koocher with that game that isn't bombing it
Starting point is 00:24:59 and putting himself behind the A-Bull behind the team kept his card for that many years is amazing. And I feel like people think we're taking shots at him. I think it's a such a different conversation. If we're for these team events when we're not at home ones like for 2023 in Italy, I don't know enough about that golf course at this point, but he's way more in the conversation that he would have been with Wistengstrates. I got some intel on that one.
Starting point is 00:25:21 It sounds like they're going to do their thing. They're going to trick it up a little bit. It's going to be weird. I'm sure. Well, I'm curious. He competition like they're going to do their thing. They're going to trick it up a little bit. It's going to be weird. I'm sure. I'm in a curious competition. I'd love to see it. But yeah, I think, you know, like, Kisner and Horseshoe put them on the team when it makes sense because I think that makes for a more interesting rider cup experience.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Sure. And I guess we don't, we don't have to relitigate the Whistling Straight stuff. People would say, I think what we, what is worth noting is giving Kisner credit for the consistency in both match play and I guess at this golf course like he deserves mad props like he's he falls out and like what you're saying it doesn't put as much stress on him, you know, he's not in his irons well and he's you know 20 30 yards behind most guys off the tee. But he just constantly has to make those 10 footers for par. And even in he had to do that this week, like he just breaks people's hearts with those par saves, like what he did to Adam Scott basically. And then, you know, he gets hot and makes like two or three birdies, you know, when he's vibing.
Starting point is 00:26:18 But he did a JT. To be able to do that for a career and not. Exactly. The consistency of the stress that he puts around his short game and his putting and to just pull that off year after year after year is worth just complimenting. I just want to point out how amazing that is to watch. I was going to go back and look and see
Starting point is 00:26:35 if he played any of the ones that Dove Mountain he did not to qualify. So it was like, all right, that would have been an instructive thing. Is he still good in match play? Because it's kind of a misnomer that he's really good in match play. Well, yeah, he might be really good at match play,
Starting point is 00:26:48 but he might just be really good at this golf course. Well, this golf course in this format where it's like, hey, I just got to beat you. I don't need to beat the field right now. I just got to beat you. Yes, like he is. Obviously a menace, 100%. There's also a whole team aspect when it comes to,
Starting point is 00:27:01 you know, Ryder Cup and Presidents Cup teams, you know, and it's just, I can't emphasize this enough that he's going to have to dethrone someone from the greatest team that's ever been put together on the US side on a golf course that doesn't fit him that well. Like that's what he's up against. Again, on different golf courses, if it was Royal Melbourne, we were getting ready to do it would be a totally different conversation, but it's just not. And.
Starting point is 00:27:22 It's such a disgrace that they're having this fucking thing at Quill Hollow this year. And then the president's come, it's going back to Royal Montréal. Like get the fuck out of here. That's so frustrating. You want to turn this into a, like a big event? Go to Good Golf courses. I will not disagree with you there.
Starting point is 00:27:38 I cannot disagree with you there. I cannot just drive by it. You know, listen, I'm not, I'm not. Shit, you know where there should go they should go to freaking Austin Austin Country Club That would be that be interesting or just more so courses like Quail Hall doesn't you know it doesn't bug me as much if we didn't see it every single year Right like I don't like it when they go somewhere and then now they're gonna move the Wells Fargo to another course It's like well, I don't need to see like I already see Quail Hall every year. I don't need to go there.
Starting point is 00:28:05 We're good for an exhibition. We're good, Quail. Like we, yeah, I know. We're the nicest time of the year, like in most of the country. Yeah, so that's, Let's stop. That's, that's what's frustrating to me.
Starting point is 00:28:16 So it's not, it's not personal Quail is what I'm getting at. But think about the other guys on this team. So like you said, Kisner has to dethrone somebody from, you know, Murderers Row. And think about who wasn't on this team. So like you said, Kisner has to dethrone somebody from, you know, murderers row. And think about who wasn't on the team. Sam Burns, Max, like it's all a tourist.
Starting point is 00:28:31 That like, I mean, and it's like, okay, you still want me to now I still got to pick Kisner. Just like, oh, you've got that dog in it. Yeah, cause it ain't a hobby. You know, it's like, I don't know, man. Like those guys are really good. Exactly. Horse.
Starting point is 00:28:42 He was the 12th guy on the team. I know. He was the last man on. And he's now the number one player in the world. Ah, this is like this is what you're trying to make the Harlem Globetrotters right now. So just remember that
Starting point is 00:28:52 when it comes time to it. I know nobody will. I know nobody that it just makes it. You know, I find myself being like, yeah, put kids on the team and I'm like, I mean, but that means you got to leave somebody off. And that's where it's called the president's
Starting point is 00:29:02 cop as like a training ground. I think they should. They never seem to do that. I mean, Davis love is the captain. Like I think they're kind of- Can we heat the same, same shit, or? There doesn't seem to be a lot of continuity on that. But I do think that the group on this US side
Starting point is 00:29:17 took a little bit of ownership to it and in terms of like the top eight guys there, like we all know each other. This is like our team. We're kind of, we're kind of running the show now here. It's not, there's not gonna be any Patrick or E things. We don't even need to talk about that. Like we all know each other. This is like our team. We're kind of, we're kind of running the show now here. It's not, there's not gonna be any Patrick or E things. We don't even need to talk about that. Like that's just not happening.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Like this is our group. Yeah. Here's the guys that fit in really well with our group. Like we don't, you need a computer model. Tell us, Scottie Schuffler's gonna be a really good player on this team and that's how it ended. God, I'm rooting for Pete to make a comeback. Did that PXG driver make a comeback and poison this US team?
Starting point is 00:29:44 So the bottom of that team right now is, was you put in Harrison? did that PXG driver make it come back and poison this US team. So the bottom of that team right now is, was you put in hair singles? I think hair singles have been hurt, so we haven't really seen much from Tony. Tony has been not playing good golf. He would not be on my team right now. Yeah, you want to make a statement on that?
Starting point is 00:29:56 I have it written down here that Tony Fienel stinks. I'm willing to address that this week. So, speed, speed would not be on my team right now. We're going to go play next week. I know that's what spieth would not be on my team right now. We're going to go play next week. When you start thinking about who's in the bottom four. Guys, is Shoffley at risk? I might have to address that at some point.
Starting point is 00:30:14 I'm waiting till the masters. I feel like he's, you know, he's not trending by any means, but he's had a lot of success there as far as just being, you know, in contention. So maybe he has a Sheffler moment here in the next couple of months and breaks through and kind of realizes the talent. Otherwise, we're on Ricky watch a little bit. Because DB Stray.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Vibe and looks like the Olympics. Not getting a little bit of time. It I thought it did. But I still I think lately he's been, you know, he's he's a combo of it's a little bit of Ricky and a little bit of JT with the limited field wins, you know, he needs to have a kind of needs to have a statement here in the next. I'll put him on a, do you think it's a three month clock or six month clock?
Starting point is 00:30:57 Uh, I mean, I think giving the whole major season. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's so over the past three, that's a four month clock. Okay. Over the past three months, he's around a 1.5, the past three to 12 months. You know, he's been about a 1.54 to 1.4 stroke, gain guy. So good player, but not great. I mean, 1.8 and up is really kind of what you're looking for in terms of. I just haven't seen him, you know, he hasn't jumped out at me. You know, I think he's had some decent finishes, but never like, oh, he's Andrew's going to, you know, but that plays really well. Like that the fact that he'd be like the 10th best team on the US team is like why it would probably got like the most versatile game amongst everybody.
Starting point is 00:31:36 And he played really well at the Ryder Cup. Yeah. So we mentioned the Olympics. Like, I guess I just got to say it again. It's a disgrace. The Olympics isn't match play. It's amazing. Like, much more interesting. The Olympics all would be if it was storylines for sure. Yeah. Aaron J Greer asked, should there be more match playing events? I'm going to say no. I think I'm good with the one week. I think it's a, it's a nice change of pace, but I don't, it's a weird one. It has one too, right? Or are they used to?
Starting point is 00:32:02 I don't, I honestly don't know. You know, you know, you've talked me into though, is taking like the Zurich format and making that a partner, like match play. And a bracket and like team golf match play is I would think a lot more engaging than that current format is. So that format's already gimmicky.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Yeah, I'd be cool. Like, you know, I would say one more match play event in the fall or something. I'd be cool with Or if it was on the corn fairy tour or somewhere else in professional golf. Sure. Here's the thing that worries me though. Like quite obviously NBC slash golf channel. I can't keep track. Like they can't portray this many matches. I mean, they don't, it's so random as to which matches they follow and which ones they kind of leave behind.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Like I mentioned the Hovelins all tourist things Super weird on Friday. They just don't have hard cameras. I guess not like I you know Just throw out that many matches and it's just if we're doing this for television It it doesn't really translate that well. I would say early week. It's a free for all and we can talk about the Point play. I love that though because it's just chaos But I'm what I'm saying is with the rise like ESPN plus and the streaming stuff, then I think you could figure it out. Like if you've got all the cameras out there
Starting point is 00:33:12 and you start giving me feature matchups or different feeds and then I could put a four screen up. Like I think die hard golfers, and I'm not saying that's an every week thing, but one other match play of it, like two a year, I would be, you know, I would vote for that. I think the other thing is just it gets the farther along you get in the tournament, the less interesting it, it's seemingly gets.
Starting point is 00:33:33 And that's where they sacrificed the best day of this tournament. It used to be the Wednesday when it was the free for all. And they've gone to pool play and look, we obviously understand the reasons for going to pool play for sponsor reasons. If you want for hospitality, you want to be able to say so and so is going to be here playing golf on Friday. But what you've also sacrificed with that is the drama for the individual matches is gone because you can't.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I watched so much of the pool play and I when it came down to crunch time on Friday, I couldn't tell you who needed to do what to advance. And you can't keep track of that for 16 matches. And you, you've sacrificed really valuable golf, real like very much super easy for golf fan. Here is what you need to know. You need to know that you win this match or you go home for a lot, a lot of meaningless golf. And it takes a huge bite out of it for golf fans.
Starting point is 00:34:19 I know what it maybe does for TV. I know what it does for sponsors. I know it keeps, it's more matches, blah, blah, blah, but that was what you was unique about this event and you kind of ruined it because Friday is almost impossible to follow. I would be down with third, started on Thursday, go back to the regular bracket. So Thursday and Friday, if you start at Thursday, you get your guaranteed gig. On Friday, you're going to have enough stars, or yeah, some of the big days might get knocked out of set.
Starting point is 00:34:44 We're not having the same issues that we had back in, you know, 1999 or two that was. There was one who that was. Yeah, Kevin Sutherland here. It was, you know, Steve Pate and Kevin Sutherland and things of that nature going on. Where golf's a hell of a lot deeper now. Like there's not, there's not, you know, yeah, you had Victor Perez last like there's some there's some Flies in the ointment every once in a while, but for the most part you're gonna get dogs and then and then like you were saying earlier finishing on Monday Yes, because the best of the best stuff is the round of 16 the round of eight Yeah, and so they one was the bat like yeah, that was awesome So that way you get you make your title sponsor happy Saturday Sunday
Starting point is 00:35:21 There's enough golf out there where it's you know Because I'm sure that's a tough viewing experience that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that.
Starting point is 00:35:38 I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. the way sports is going with gambling and stuff, like this would feed right into that so much better than the pool play stuff does. Like, I remember filling out brackets for this event and it's just not as much fun to do with the pool stuff because it's a free throw. You're no way you're gonna pick the pool winners correctly
Starting point is 00:35:56 and then your brackets destroyed. So it's not even worth doing. I feel like the pools, to me, the biggest thing that bugs me about the pools, because I don't really mind it either way. The biggest thing that bugs me is the pools, because I don't really mind it either way. Biggest thing that bugs me is the fact that the head-to-head match isn't the tiebreaker. They want more tiebreaker, I guess,
Starting point is 00:36:12 the more playoffs. That's stupid to me. Just make it so that's a way to make Friday super digestible. Hey, these two are playing, and you know what, if so and so wins, he's moving on. If so and so wins, instead they have to go back out and do, you know, do a playoff. I saw some people, you know, suggesting World Cup scoring to like a win should be worth three, a draw worth one and a loss worth zero.
Starting point is 00:36:37 That way you're, you have less ties and kind of more emphasis on actually winning the match. I don't know. I just, I just wish I knew. And maybe I just didn't pay attention. Like I was I was off to another stuff mid this week, but like how do they set up the pools? It's a it's a draw amongst the 16 A players, the 16 B players, the 16 C and the 16 D draw one for each pool. You draw one person from each one. That's why the pools didn't, there wasn't a lot of tasty matchups in the pools. It wasn't like, you know, they should,
Starting point is 00:37:06 honestly, they do a decent job of like setting up matches, you know, parings in the early part of the week and for normal events, probably should just do that for this event. Like, give me, give me speed and read in the same, in the same group. Like, do, give me a little bit of storyline to follow early on in the week.
Starting point is 00:37:20 We don't need to protect the integrity of the, of the draw all of you. In the fact that they don't recede after, like, you know, like, I think the fact that that DJ and Shafler had to play today, like, I think that's bullshit. I think that they, I think they should play the, you know, like the lowest CD guy should play the highest CD guy. That one I'm okay with, because at least we got to see that match instead of like one of them losing along the way.
Starting point is 00:37:42 But I don't know. It's, it's hard. It's, you can see pretty easily why match like while a lot of them losing along the way. But I don't know, it's hard. You can see pretty easily why a lot of people don't, why a lot of companies don't want to do match play events because it just doesn't translate that well to TV. At times, it's the best, but for the most part, man, it's pretty tough to capture that when you compare this to NCAA tournament going on right now
Starting point is 00:38:03 and how hyped people get for the underdogs and the Cinderella stories in college basketball and it's like, oh God, you know, like the, that's once a year, this is every week. I know, but in golf, the, you know, no one's happy when like no offense to our guy, our guy bland, blandly, but like no one's like, oh man, like,
Starting point is 00:38:22 can you believe the run this guy's making? That the answer was like, yo, we can't have these guys. We can't have these guys making a Cinderella run. It's bad for business. We need to fix this. Instead, whereas that's the business model on March on NCAA basketball. It's like, yo, Cinderella stories. That's what it's all about, you know?
Starting point is 00:38:39 Funny thing though, they probably get, I mean, the ratings are way better when it's Duke, you and C than the Cinderella model too. So uh, so Volvo match play ended in 2014. So, you missed it. Yeah. I'd like, I think it's just, I enjoy watching it because it's, it's true. Like you have all the context you need for each match. It's two guys playing one another. And it's super digestible and super easy. Whereas I feel like, you know, otherwise, it's, oh, well, this guy's T17 right now and he's probably not going to win, but he needs these points to, you know, move on. Whereas like, I feel like this is actually a good way to introduce people into watching
Starting point is 00:39:18 golf for the first time. Yeah. I do not disagree. It's still a weird spot in the calendar two weeks before the Masters with, you know, you get guys like Rory skipping. And it feels like a weird fit for maybe some guys last start before the Masters playing. I think Rory's skipping too,
Starting point is 00:39:31 just because like, like, this isn't his kind of golf course. Like he can't hit those half-wedd shots. Yeah, he's a throer. Also, I feel like you could do the Monday finish thing too, because like the San Antonio event is 90 minutes away. Right. What are the chances even that your guy, like Shuffler just withdrew from this week anyway.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Yeah, did he just withdraw from, well, okay. Couple of other things, Paul Casey, early in the week, you have any issues with how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that,
Starting point is 00:40:01 how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how that, how him, you know, or it may put some nuggies on him this week. It's just like, yeah, I don't know. We've always had with the WGC's the first shoe of for the listeners that don't know what happened. Two holes into his first match.
Starting point is 00:40:13 He withdrew against Corey Conner's with back spasms and did not play. He warmed up and didn't tell Alex Noren that he wasn't going to play Alex Noren made it to the tee and teed off in Casey was not there yet And then so that conceives that match and then he also conceded his Friday match We played two holes collected $40,000 went on three who was next guy in Ryan Palmer I believe mr Mr. Palmer Arnie you know you expect mr. Palmer come on I guess and did Casey pull out of the week before he did not play the way before. Correct. He was supposed to.
Starting point is 00:40:47 It wasn't he. But they said it was just it wasn't. No, he pulled out of house. Bar was an injury though. It was not that information. It wasn't said that it wasn't injury. I don't think it was not specifically said that it was injury, which is part of the conversation. I tried to start the conversation on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:41:01 It turns out the Brits are not down with the fact that we would even remotely suggest that players should share information with a potential betting public because that apparently betting's been going on over here for years and we don't have to do any. They don't do any injury reporting here. Well, I'll do the NFL. Well, guess what happens over here, guys? That's mostly who we're talking to. And yeah, NFL has injury reports, disclosure.
Starting point is 00:41:23 They have had a betting enormous betting, mostly illegal betting market for many, many, many, many years that the lines move greatly due to information shared by those teams on who is doubtful, who is questionable, all these things. Some lines are held not even posted until injury reports are posted. And the league polices it.
Starting point is 00:41:40 It is part of, it is part of past, I guess trying to get this information there trying to paint this clearly of like I don't I have no I had no nothing riding on this but if the tour is gonna take Money from gambling places and and funnel that money to the players. That's what's happening here The players should owe that betting public a lot more information about what's going on suspensions injuries short-term long-term injuries that you're Rory was saying this during his play or short-term. More transparency out there.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Now, this is not about like taking a bad beat. This is like about encouraging people to want to engage in this sport in this way. It is part of like the revenue that is gonna come into professional golf is gonna depend on the activity, the activeness of this market. And if you are shutting that market out, they're gonna find other places to game
Starting point is 00:42:27 and put their money and follow and be entertained by. And it might be a minor thing to a lot of people, but it's just not, and it's just shitty, like to have something like this happen. Because this is where it can get really messy if people kind of are at the tournament and see Paul Casey spasming on the range and then you can put it up play and against them immediately.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Like you have access to information that nobody else has. Now it's like, well, shit, you know, can somebody be on site, you know, sending that information out to people and things like that. That's where it gets weird. That's why you got to disclose this stuff. I think the brits, I think the red coats are still upset about a shit non-Paul Casey, a couple of shit and the players. I think I think the brits I think the red coats are still upset about a shit non-Paul Casey a couple of Shedder and the players and you guys are trafficking in you endo and and here say and all this shit
Starting point is 00:43:11 Yeah, we are like and you know what? There's a lot of it out there and most of it is this had nothing to do with Casey though This was just about like yeah, I shitty from Casey though, too Right, I would get I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt. I have woken up the day of what Nina playing around of golf and had a back injury that I didn't have the day before. And it keep me from being able to play. I've had that happen. I imagine it happens for as much as these guys are competing.
Starting point is 00:43:36 That's not outrageous. That's happened. So I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that it happened that day. What I'm blaming is the system for not tipping us off on that. If there was no information in the system, Andy withdraws that day and he can confidently say like, yep, you know what, it sprung up this morning and I'm sorry to do this, but I have to withdraw. That's different than like, hey, he knew about this all week. That's what we don't know. Did he know about this all week and then just pulled out? And if there's a better information
Starting point is 00:44:01 sharing system, then we have, then players are held more accountable. So one, they don't do this to the first alternate, two, they don't do this to the first alternate, two, they don't do this to the whole. Anyone that is, well, here's the following, there's a problem. Is that, I mean, there's an incentive to withhold it for him because he makes 40 grand. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:15 So that might be like the answer to the question of like, how do you prevent that from happening? Well, figure out a way for, you know, you don't just get a check for 40 grand for showing up, you know, if you're hurt, like it's bad for the competition, if guys are showing up hurt and just not playing, right? Like that's, you know, we want the most competitive tournament we can get. And if you're not 100% or you can't play,
Starting point is 00:44:35 then you should somebody else should play in your play. Sorry, like you're not going to make, yeah, not going to make the money. And that's not an issue week to week because there's a cut, but these WGC's like, you know, it happens. And it's like a competitive balance thing too between these pools where if, so he played what? He played one of the matches a little bit
Starting point is 00:44:53 or just two holes the first patch. So yeah, so he did that and then. Which two holes is super suspicious. It's not one hole. It's like, all right, well, it's gonna look suspicious if I play one and I'll play two holes. And then, like, Corey Conner's comes out
Starting point is 00:45:05 of that group 10 and makes it to the final four, which like it's a grind, right? Like that's one less match that he had to play this week. At least it was shared, you're right. You're exactly right for the energy lasting. At least it was shared amongst everyone in his group that they got the free point from him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:23 That's the one benefit from it. But Lee Westwood was chiming in on our Twitter mentions about this. I mean, there's a very clear divide. Australians were all over. It's got hand, like a lot of unhinged professional golfers were getting involved. If, just, I don't care about your dollars. Like, well, dude, you probably should care about it because you're getting paid off of it.
Starting point is 00:45:42 And if you can't see remotely around the corner for how this affects you, like you're not understanding the situation here. Yeah, it's just better. I think transparency is a good thing. Just in sports in general. Listen, they're not politicians and they're not bookmakers. That's right. Okay. Imagine just like, yeah, pro golfers tell the golf fans, like, no, you know, you don't need anymore. But, T.C., I wouldn't be worried. Don't worry about the blokes and the chaps. They've been mad at me since I called Annie Murray, British, like two years ago. I still hear about that. I did a drive-by on mushy peas and unsalted meats on the trap Draw London on my way to Scotland people were mad at me for that. So listen, we we understand but You know, we got to we got to speak truth to to our friends. I got a couple appearances
Starting point is 00:46:19 I can't be flying into Heathrow and you know having some some some unhinged chap come up to me and say Mr. T.C. We hate your takes. It might be Paul Casey. Speaking of which that so can we talk about Westwood? Just running through some of these these groups group five Scotty Shuffle the one that he came out of it was Scotty Shuffle and then the three blokes fits Fleetwood and Polter. Oh yeah he took down the entire European rider cup team And you you're gonna get people are gonna get all over you if you don't mention shame as power Oh, that's right. Yeah, great. We won his group really good. Good. Good. Patrick can't like Keith Mitchell sung a and actually pretty pretty damn good like strong group and Want it went to and won Keith Mitchell playing some golf by the way
Starting point is 00:47:02 That's just a name to keep an eye on as we turn into these summer months. I think it's love. It's like this little status check, like each group is, and it was really disconcerting to see Honest Abe and once they moved to Bracket Play, like put a bullet in Moorakawa. Like, what a seven and six or something.
Starting point is 00:47:21 He destroyed, he beat him worse than you beat me at University of Michigan. Colin was not happy. Yeah. He was not feeling it. I do want people to keep track of this. Whenever they flash to a dancer chipping, they did this like four times this week, talked about how amazing his short game is.
Starting point is 00:47:39 He's one of the worst chippers on the PJ Dora statistically. And every time they show him, he's like, oh, he's just so deft at these shots. He's got a chipping green in his backyard. And it's him, he's like, oh, he's just so deft at these shots. He's got a chipping green his backyard. And it's basically because he's like a little dude. Yes, exactly. It's like, you know, you know, it's like white receivers and then I feel like, do that guy so smart. Like he's so safe. No, he's actually like one of the fastest. He's on the field straight up. I can't figure out Abe's game. It's kind of, it's extremely confusing. It's not like I want to say anything about Group 7, the winner there.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Which one was group seven? It was big tone, Zander, Lucas Herbert, and Takumi Kanaya. Mm. That was one of the, that was a tough bracket. I've got nothing to say about that. Going two and one and, and, and, And then, and then, and then,
Starting point is 00:48:17 It's kind of crowned a little bit. Takumi got crowned a little bit. James missed a two footer and then, like, accidentally gave him a putt for the win. Did you see any of that in the tiebreaker? I did not. Oh my God, he had a two foot putt on the first green of the tiebreaker, missed it
Starting point is 00:48:28 and then went to go tap in the next one and missed that one also. Then, who did this? Shameless power. They're in different groups. They're not in the putt? No, I'm sorry, he was putt, Lucas Herbert, that's who he's putt, sorry Lucas Herbert.
Starting point is 00:48:39 And missed another tap in and then conceded Kenaya's putt and I didn't realize that he just conceded the putt to win it It was really bizarre sequence of events But yeah, can I manipulate his way in and then manipulate his way out of the group one He's into the masters believe butro's butro's tringale Oh, my just made me happy did you can discover the greatness within Elijah's small batch bourbon like my guy Neil is doing right here across from me. Elijah Craig bourbon never settles for less than the best.
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Starting point is 00:50:43 I hear you could. You could not have dassa. No, I just decided. I hear you could not. You did not have to ask that. No, I just decided. I just decided it was now as the time I wanted to know what that bag was. I'm sending you a DM with what not mag is. Okay. You want to talk about number, hold number 13.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Your Mr. T. I.O. No, I know it's been probably over talked about at this point. I know our friends, you know, and and Brenney and the shotgun star are talking about it. And then, and Brandy, that's a lot of like, and Andy and Brandy, my guys, Mr. Brandy, but it's a disgrace. And so I think it's worth us noting that
Starting point is 00:51:15 temporary, a movable object relief, that rule needs to change. And I think every year at this tournament is when I see it kind of that whole number 13, but also even later in the round, because I think it's such a tight property on the side of the hill. I feel like on 15, those guys are hitting it up the left side and they're, you know, hitting it up next to the grandstand, they're getting a drop from it. And I get it that you need, you know, that's not normally there, but what other rule in
Starting point is 00:51:41 ProGolf makes the game easier for professionals when they hit it wildly wildly offline or Changes completely changes the strategy of a hole to the point where it's like this is this is pointless So I just need I need to talk about where I want to talk about Changing the rule like there should be a penalty of some kind like yeah, you can take the The guys they are going like a hundred yards to get a clear line of sight and they get a free drop. Like what the fuck are we doing? Exactly. It should be a bad drop area. You should want to not hit it there. It should be part of your decision making process. Like, yeah, if I hit it in that, I have to take a
Starting point is 00:52:15 drop and I'm not going to. Yeah, there needs to be some thought put into this. And by the tour. The target comes out and he gets a step on your ball. I love that. Yeah. You get gut punched by good target. Low kid, not a fun, not a fun stance to be on. Also, the 13th hole is seriously dangerous. Like people launching drivers into the crowd of people and like P or landed one up there, like right next to somebody who's just sitting there
Starting point is 00:52:38 casually not watching it. So don't drag P into this. When's the answer? Is it speed hit one of the worst drives I've ever seen. And he just gets to drop it like three and clear next to the cart path and it has like a 30 yard chip. It's just like, it's just stupid. It's dangerous. It's dangerous. And it's just, uh, it's not golf. Like the game shouldn't be easier for those guys than it is for the members at Austin Country Club. That whole I guarantee it was a lot harder for the members when there aren't the grandstands there.
Starting point is 00:53:06 It is. I think you just pull on that enough and it just becomes like, what are we doing here? It's an entertainment product that we're trying to keep the golf contained to this space so we don't have to move the crowds around. Like that's to keep the flow. But I'm also saying these guys should be punished
Starting point is 00:53:20 then like, it should be like offense. It should be a self-police, it should be self-police by the players. Like, yo, if I hit it way off line in into over the grandstands, like, that's not going to be good. If you leave the arena, it's out of bounds. Yeah. Yeah. It's not even out of bounds. Like, you just get a penalty. You get the line of sight drop and everything, but you get a fucking penalty stroke for it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Or you can try to hit it over the grandstands. You can play the ball as a lot of entertainment products. No, like, it would be like just like a penny out of penalty area. hit it over the grandstands. You can play the ball as a lot. Entertainment product. That's what I said. No, it would be like just like a any other penalty area. Who did that when we were at the, this is a trial. Very cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Win the clerk. Yeah. And from behind you. Yeah. But that's the thing. It's like, yeah, if you want to play that shot and not take the penalty stroke, by all means. But nine at Colonials, another great example of dudes just humbling the back grandstand
Starting point is 00:54:05 Because water's short and they're just like, yeah, man, let me just clear this water and I'll get a free drop over there And it's all good and that's that to me is like Not on my watch. It's bullshit and I'm sick of it I got and the first time I got really sick of it was when Brennan steel did that on 18 at Sony like two years ago And he got he took like a 75 yards He went and got a clear line of sight and then like got up and down deal to that on 18 at Sony, like two years ago. And he got, he took like a 75 yards, he went and got a clear line of sight and then like got up and down.
Starting point is 00:54:27 It's like, this is so fucking stupid. Like I can't, I don't know other like amateur golf or can do that. Like that's just not in the spirit of golf. So we need to do something about it. Brendan steel, the big, the big dossier. Stop the steel. Can we stop the steel, yeah?
Starting point is 00:54:40 Can we talk about Westwood? Do you guys see, do you follow any of this? Not really. Oh man, he has a bad run going on Twitter right now. I don't know where this started, but golf digest journalist Joel Beale made what I would consider to be a pretty innocent comment. All things considered as a week or two ago, maybe about somebody not wanting to watch 49 year old Lee Westwood and Jason co-crack battle it out over on the Saudi tour. Aegis. Let me tell you, Lee Westwood took exception to this. All right. He called him an Aegis if I remember right and
Starting point is 00:55:14 Joel replied with a pretty good He punched him pretty hard and then ended up deleting it. It was a little as a little harsh in terms of you know Calling him out for selling his soul to the to Saudi or something like that. By the way, co-crack is only 36. So 49 year old Lee Westwood and Jason co-crack. You know, but I don't know what the tweet was. I'm summarizing.
Starting point is 00:55:34 But I'm just saying, let's not, you know what, age of might be by the age of is a great form of this. Let's leave Jay co-crack out of this because he's he's only a like a few months older than I am. So not only on on that he Westwood in the middle of you know, obviously not making out of his bracket gets into a little tiff with All right, so Michael Collins tweets out a friend asked me where was all the angst and rage about Saudi golf when LPGA Tour players and stars played there last week? They took the money just like the guys
Starting point is 00:56:07 and no one was screaming about them. Hell, they put it on TV. I didn't have an answer for my friend. Anyone? And Lee Westwood chimes in with at Brandle Shambly, at Aiman Lynch or at Joel Beal will know. And Aiman replies with like, all right, here's, I addressed a specific issue.
Starting point is 00:56:22 You want to do your what about is something like here. I answered this question in this article. And then Michael Collins responds, yeah, but you're typing this from an iPhone probably, right? No, Lee Westwood replies, ah, I see. So your employers, the golf channel must have needed to show the ladies and men's tournaments from Saudi looking forward to your next appearance on GC golf today, where you admonish a, admonish a severe reprimand or even quit in disgust.
Starting point is 00:56:46 And Aiman replies saying, surely you can grasp that legal contracts to broadcast various tours might predate the creation of Saudi events on those tours. But don't let that keep you from mudding the waters to excuse Saudi abuses for your own purposes. Westwood would then reply such a disappointing response. But you've clearly stated that if you need it, then it's okay regardless of source. We can all see who butters your bread,
Starting point is 00:57:09 amen, hypocrisy at its finest. Amen replies, I said there's little difference between a tour going there and leaving members little options such as with the ladies European tour, versus an individual on a lucrative tour, opting to work directly for a regime that be heads critics, then making shameless excuses for it.
Starting point is 00:57:26 But I defer to you on your expertise on that and lead did not respond to that. So he took that and then went out and I think lost four and three and then would come in and just like straight up like harassing Joel Beale on Twitter, like Tagdamin multiple times said at a certain, Hey, Joel Beale, I see you grew a pair and replied, I'm not a politician either, just a bloke from work, who plays golf for a living. You got me thinking, I wonder what the average age of a golf digest reader is. Good luck growing the game with this current approach. Just glad grow the game made it in there. Pretty good. Had had to get that in there. So then Joel gets back into it by making what I would consider to be a funny and very innocent joke about Dustin Johnson won't recognize. He might walk past Richard Blande on the first T thinking he's an Austin country club member. Which is more of a commentary
Starting point is 00:58:14 on DJ 100% on Blande. Let's get that's that was to me a joke about DJ just being a wolf. Blande is not kitchen he's straight. Yeah, absolutely. That could have been any that he was just wrong place wrong time. Blande was that wasn't at him. Let me tell you British Twitter did not like this. Tons of people calling for him to apologize directly. It was deme. He got ratioed like crazy on that one. It got it got circulating in the it got in the in the upstream. Westwood quote retweets. You do fully qualify as a bell end, which is that's their favorite of, yeah, you can look that one up yourself if you like to. And then he just, like keeps raining and I wonder what Joel Beale is doing today while
Starting point is 00:58:54 Blandey 73 is playing Dustin Johnson PGA in the last 16. If you get beat Farad Square, you just hold your hands up and say, well played. Some people like Joe Beale can't accept that. He's grafted his balls off to get here, accepted and move on, Joe, Bill. Good luck tomorrow against Dustin Johnson, be the best man win. Just like keeps going. Eventually, Joe blocks him. So lead post a picture on Twitter, like showing the screenshot of the block. Kind of a mission accomplished. Just like, do get out of here. Like this is ridiculous. Like
Starting point is 00:59:22 he called you out for like, Westwood's obviously on the run with this thing because he's signing an NDA with Saudi thing and he's trying to cover his tracks and trying to, you know, sign, you know, basically explain it away. And when he got called out for it, he just resorted to bullying the journalist in this scenario.
Starting point is 00:59:36 And it's tough scene. Doesn't lead you to go to like, Cheltenham or something like that. This is one of the horse races. I don't know if the season started yet. He's probably, you know, I think, well, oh no, no, no, it has. It's 15th to the hat.
Starting point is 00:59:48 It's because he, that's right, because it's during the players week, right? He didn't play in the players that one year after, after after Bay Hill, because he was, had to go to the, go watch the ponies. I just looked up Bell and two, that's good stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:03 The Aussies like that one. I never really heard that one, that's good stuff. The Aussies like that one. I never really heard that one. That's good stuff. I can't. I don't know. I don't know. What a waste to everyone's time. I like to.
Starting point is 01:00:11 It's like, yo, you're pro golfer, man. Like what's what's what a waste of time for Westwood? Well, it just yeah, it just goes back to the source of this, right? Yeah. It's his involvement with the Saudis. And instead of explaining that away, he for sorts to a bunch of what aboutism, then harassing the source of a couple of, a person that made a couple of Twitter jokes about it. Like, come on man, you gotta be better than that.
Starting point is 01:00:32 I like Joel and like, the more time that goes along with like Westwood, it's like, yeah, like, he might just like not be very intelligent. It certainly appears that way based on this past week, which is, it's just tough to watch unfold. If like I've rooted for that guy for a lot of his career and you like, you read that timeline certainly appears that way based on this past week, which is it's just tough to watch unfold. If I got rid of that guy for a lot of his career and you read that timeline and I know we'll definitely hear from the other side of the pond by the time we wake up, but read that and try to explain that. It's not, it's a pretty tough scene.
Starting point is 01:00:56 I might beat you if you will. Tough times on Westie Island these days. Speaking of Westwood, the live golf invite email officially went out this past week. Appreciate Wolfie. I talked to Wolfie. I talked to Wolfie. He was like, yeah, they sent it to, they pulled the emails from,
Starting point is 01:01:10 like they pulled the tour list of who to send autographs and fan mail to, for each player. So that's how they got like his fan of Farrakhat email or whatever. And you know, instead, like that's what they're working off of here instead of like actual relationships and everything. It's like a kangaroo court. They're like, it's like it, Texas,
Starting point is 01:01:32 you still buy leads for webinars. There's like this whole dark web of buying email addresses for decision makers. It's like, oh yeah, let's go get these. Let's get a list baby. Let's get an email list. I have somebody that I think is probably gonna to be on that email list. Kevin now with the golf Saudi logo on his collar popped up this way.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Where's the Kevin? How about that? It's kind of a subtle logo. Very subtle. Right. No words or any words. That's interesting. Is it a saw or? No, it's an oil Derek. Oh god, damn it. No, I don't, I actually don't know what it is. Like, but it seems like everybody's pretty sure that that is the Saudi. I'm, I'm a flow guy.
Starting point is 01:02:13 That pretty much is like the least surprising thing as far as I'm concerned. As far as, as far as thirsty Kevin is concerned. Anything else from match played? I know we got to talk a little, we've got Coralus a little bit here. We got some Matt. I think it's time to start talking a little, we've got Corralis a little bit here. We got some, I think it's time to start talking a little bit of master stuff. We got a little LPGA stuff. Yeah, I didn't watch a whole lot of Bryson.
Starting point is 01:02:31 What, what did he look like this week? He looked rusty, surprisingly healthy. Like he was touching 190 ball speed. He looked like a guy who has not played a lot of golf. I'm still kind of amazed based on the fact that he has a fracture in his handmate and probably need tip surgery. What's your handmate? What is that? It's like this bone right here, I'm still kind of amazed based on the fact that he has a fracture in his hand mate and probably need tip surgery. What's your hand mate? What is that?
Starting point is 01:02:47 It's like this bone right here, I think. I know I'm not good radio, but like above your wrist, in your hand. Neal, you want to take a victory lap saying that you're, you know, fain, fain some surprise that he, that he somehow hurt himself. Don't get golf, you'll get golf fitness Twitter all over you if you do that. And he won't get hurt. I mean, I'm sure it's very natural. I just don't think that carrying gaining that much weight
Starting point is 01:03:08 in a short period of time for the record that my take was that I just don't think that's going to be very comfortable. It is sustainable. It's sustainable. That rings very true. And it's what it looks like. It feels like it's all about sustainability. I am.
Starting point is 01:03:19 I'm very, very much so. No, as someone who put on a bunch of weight long ago and when I lost a lot of it, especially in your legs, you don't feel good, especially if you're walking around, you're doing like low impact, but athletic activities every day. Like that's the kind of activity that gaining, doing a bunch of weightlifting is, it's just going to make you feel like shit. And that's kind of what Bryson looks. It looks like Bryson feels like shit physically to me.
Starting point is 01:03:44 And he wasn't limping or anything. He looked okay. His touch was off in that blandy matchup. His wedge game looks just really off. And he couldn't, his distance. And when Bryson's on, and he's hitting those, he's going to 9.30 on the clock. And he's dialed in with his, uh, with his swing, uh, distances. That's when he's playing really well. He just didn't look like he
Starting point is 01:04:10 had that dialed at all, which honestly, I mean, obviously to be expected. I was not expecting anything. I expected him to not make it. I expect him to Paul Casey this week. Honestly, I didn't think he was healthy enough to play, but that was a surprise. He's playing Valero this week. I'd be amazed if he got his game in shape in time for Augusta to compete there. That's just the whole thing about like a bad core like hips like it's like laborums and the hip joints and stuff. At least I remember from football was dudes would play with it like a couple of my teammates, one of the guys that played safety with. He had torn laborums in both hips. He's like you know, the whole season. It just it's really uncomfortable, But it's one of those injuries. Same with the shoulder. Like you can I have a torn labor room in my
Starting point is 01:04:48 right shoulder. And it's like no, the recommendation was don't get surgery just strengthen everything around it and you can live with it. And it's like you can. And it'll it'll like get out of place sometimes and it's uncomfortable. But it's at some point you're going to have to deal with it. The reason I probably have is because I don't play football anymore. But at some point, you're going to have to deal with it. The reason I probably have is because I don't play football anymore. But at some point, you're going to continue to wear it down. So I just, I'm guessing total speculation, but I bet he just doesn't feel good physically. Like he probably just feels really like run down and he's put a lot of mileage on his body in a short period of time.
Starting point is 01:05:19 We probably didn't talk enough about Cory Connors. He was a pick to click for me going into this year, if you will. And obviously a fantastic week. Pick to click. Pick to click. I just said, just keep an eye. I forget if I made a season long play on him or not, but I had a feeling he was going to have a big, he hasn't played great this year leading
Starting point is 01:05:35 up to it. But for somebody that has won the Valera, has finished top 10 at the Masters and his last two appearances there to finish third this week. Get clicked a big paycheck. A lot of points just. I was going into we're on that, into the Dynastore next week too. Last year, I was way,
Starting point is 01:05:48 I was in on Torrey Conners, and I kind of, maybe a little early, but I agree with you on all that. It's just, he's still shaky with the putter. He put it well this week. He can heat up, he just drives it so damn good, and that's like super sustainable. It compared to the Kizner model,
Starting point is 01:06:04 like it just, he's just got, he's one of the best drivers of the golf ball in all of golf and I feel like he doesn't get enough props for that. I love his tempo too. He's, you know, it's real smooth. He does not over swing the club TC. He's directing that at me. You and DJ. You always tell me the top top LPGA guy.
Starting point is 01:06:27 He's got LPGA tempo. That's the ultimate compliment. Yes. I said, I like watching that and enjoy it. Anything else from from match play because there is a looming question as we approach the masters that I think we, we need to at least does speak stink. That's a looming question, but I think an even bigger question. Cat, do we see cat mate?
Starting point is 01:06:47 Do we see cat mate? I could not have been more definitive in my prediction, I was trying to stop Tiger Augusta hype from even beginning. He's not gonna do it, he's not. And I've moved off of 0% to like 1.5%. There's some smoke there. There was rumors flying that he went to a gust at which I could not.
Starting point is 01:07:12 We have airplane number. Are we looking up airplane number? Like tail numbers? And are we in that stage of the? Video surface today of him what looked like walking metalist. Okay. Which you're only doing that.
Starting point is 01:07:23 If you're only walking if you are trying to train yourself to walk in two weeks. Yeah. And now how he can possibly be ready to compete in the biggest, probably the biggest tournament in the world in two weeks. And it's an entirely different question. I don't think he wants to go out and embarrass himself. I think if I were to guess he's going to make his best effort over the next week and a half to two weeks and probably still not go,
Starting point is 01:07:45 but it looks like he's gonna take us to the to the wire on this. I mean, I just even if he plays, I just can't get that excited about him playing because I'm feeling like he's gonna play very well. I'd much rather him and maybe this is all just kind of a smoke screen and I want to see him play St. Andrews. Yeah. That's like I cared more about seeing him play St. Andrews than seeing him play Agusta. I don't know if there's any course though. Agusta's a hard walk, but he knows that place so well
Starting point is 01:08:15 that I think he can show up and just like lean on his experience there and make the cut and not embarrass himself. Oh, totally. But I think it, I think it's San Andrews. I think he could, like the putter got hot. Like I think he could legitimately make noise.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Yeah. I have no information on this. It just, like there's enough smoke there that's a little suspicious. It, he was surfaced on the list of, you know, being in the field, which is, don't read too much into that. A lot of websites are gonna get their headlines
Starting point is 01:08:46 and clicks about that, but it's basically just saying he hasn't withdrawn yet. Phil is listed as somebody that is not playing, so it's very safe to assume we will not see Phil, and just because Tigers on that list doesn't mean that he is playing, but it certainly feels like he's gonna give it a try. Phil is asked not to play.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Do we know that? Craig Dolch had a column in the Palm Beach post that referenced that kind of buried the lead on that one. But yeah, he said, he's talked to several sources that said he was basically politely demanded not to play by the Riddler and crew. I was hoping Billy Payne would be there to scold him in his opening statements. Yeah, I want to see Tiger play Harbor Town.
Starting point is 01:09:32 You know, like I think that's a perfect course for him to walk around. He's got no interest. Well, I mean, he's going to need some reps on a super flat, easy to walk course at first. Like just diving back into the deep end at Augusta just doesn't seem. I mean, yeah, it's the cat, I guess. But I, but in his mind or projecting this, of course, it's like those, the majors are all that matter to him at this point. Like, maybe he can still want it to more over the next five to 10 years. I don't think he can win.
Starting point is 01:10:03 I don't think he can win. No, but those are the only tournaments that it's worth it for him to get up for and to like, you know, to try to go. Like it's another opportunity to miss. It's only he's only getting older. He's only, I feel like you've got to build some strength and you've got to, you got to work.
Starting point is 01:10:19 It's a process, right? You got to work towards something and I feel like just parachuting into Augusta and it's a tough walk and all that. Whereas, you know, hey, let's say you start at a really low key week with Harbor Town and then kind of work your way up towards playing. I know, but you only, it's once a year, it's like one more missed chance at the masters.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Like, you can't get this one back, right? Like, it's one year older. It's one, one, every year, the odds of him making noise go down. So he's got to take, you know, it's kind of like, he doesn't know choice, he's kind of got to try it now. It's kind of a free role where the masters you're not taking up a spot from anyone,
Starting point is 01:10:56 especially with how they fill the field. Like the US Open would be different in that regard. So it is kind of a, you can go up until Wednesday. And if he, you know, he's going to be up there anyways for the champions dinner, right? So he can give a shot and if he doesn't feel good by Wednesday, he can say, look, I'm not ready to compete, which he doesn't do that very often. I'm struggling to think of even one time he's done that, you know, when it's not directly injury related, but he has the right to do that. So we'll see. I, again,
Starting point is 01:11:23 importantly, I think we should discuss beef. We can definitely do that. So we'll see. I, again, importantly, I think we should discuss speed. We can definitely do that. I, his pre-shot routine, it reminds me of my bad golfer friends. Like my friends are trying to learn how to play golf, the, the taking it all the way back to the top. It's creating depth in the back swing. It looks so uncomfortable and it looks like he's just going
Starting point is 01:11:40 really steep and still coming over the top, which I don't, I just don't understand what, what he's doing. Covering the ball, baby. Feel looks awful when he's got the left, the left ball in play and it's just really, really unconsessed. He's in the process. I have total trust. He did have a couple of speedy and up and down, so on Thursday, I think he hit it over on, I think it was 13 TT. He was playing 12 and he was like, I just so far off on his approach and then he hits this like, weird chip
Starting point is 01:12:11 and makes a 25 footer and it was like, everybody knew it was going in, you know? It's like, oh yeah, just to tie the whole no big deal. So he's still got the magic, baby. I'm not seeing the magic. I don't see it. On shots like that though, he's still doing speed things around the greens.
Starting point is 01:12:26 I feel like. I do think he needs to let Greller go for now. Like, just like Ted Scott got on Scottie's bag. Maybe we get Greller on Rory's bag. So you think Greller should retire? Yeah, should retire for just retire for a month. Two or three weeks. That seems to be the cat he played these days.
Starting point is 01:12:43 Yeah, I've retired. And then, oh, no, I'm not, I'm not writing speed off for the masters or for, or for Brooklyn. What about leash, you see? Wait, because I know you like to pick leash for the masters. We should not look good this week. I'm not picking leash this year for the masters. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:12:59 I don't think I can do the speed masters thing this year. I hold out for this, if he does a Valero thing and shows a if he, if we get one flash of brilliance this week, I'll get, I'll jump on board, but I haven't even seen the floor back in the St. Peter realm. You did not. You denied him. I don't deny them five times. It worked last time.
Starting point is 01:13:20 He is not playing anywhere near the kind of golf. He was playing last year in this stretch. It is the number. He's the second biggest favorite as of now for Augusta. And he is, I mean, or last three months, he has 0.42 strokes game, which is not good. That's not a very competitive golfer at the highest level. And he's not his putting numbers are below average. He's losing strokes on the greens. He's around the greens. The magic. It's not his putting numbers are below average. He sees losing strokes on the greens. He's around the greens the magic It's not there right now. I is darkest before the I hope so I hope so with speed It's like he never had a good golf swing. I totally disagree with that
Starting point is 01:13:56 Well, not a pretty one, you know with the chicken wing and like it's like dude stop trying to just just work It's work with what you got like you have a very pretty golf swing But it like what does it get you? Exactly, that's my point. It's like, speech should be more happened. Just, yo, just hit the ball like you, but you're, you're sitting here telling him that his swing looks over the top.
Starting point is 01:14:14 And my point is that I think you, because what I'm delivering is that he's changing it. Like the whole routine starting this year, starting in Hawaii, it was like, yo, it looks like speed is trying to make some wholesale changes up top. And I don't know why. I don't like it. It's like he's trying to make big changes to his swing
Starting point is 01:14:32 because like he doesn't, probably doesn't like it. And he doesn't, he wants to get a little more distance out of it or whatever. I'm gonna give the benefit of the doubt to him and his team that they have the right information there to want to make that change, right? I don't think you can just say like, hey, don't change anything, man. Like something here's changed for something. Change for him. I can't say that because it doesn't matter. Let's go. I can't say that. I will say you're right. You're
Starting point is 01:14:53 right. You're right. But I'm just going to say as well. I don't like it. I don't like it either. It doesn't look comfortable for him. That's the whole thing with speed though. Nothing is comfortable. It's. Yeah. That's part of the journey. That is part of the journey, but there needs to be a certain level of joy that is with it and not just pain. There's something had to go wrong from to want to make this change. And that's the problem with making swing changes, especially at the highest level. And watching it all play out publicly is like, it's just a time period where you have to commit those things to, or trying to commit those things to memory
Starting point is 01:15:25 So you're not thinking about them when you're on the golf course and I don't even necessarily know what all those things are He he could probably come on and explain it It would probably take like 25 minutes to break down the full sequence He did that in 2019 and when we when he's on the podcast right around this time in Austin I know it was fascinating, but I was also like dude stop saying all this stuff out loud Because this is crazy his whole spiel around like well, yeah, I got like three different swings. Yeah, the feels from, you know, since I was a kid, I got this one. And then the one where I feel like I'm coming inside the elbow comes here.
Starting point is 01:15:52 Well, that's that's like, this is awesome. It was so fascinating to listen to, but it feels like he's making these. I felt like he showed up in Hawaii with this new pre shot routine. It was like, yo, it wasn't that bad. Was it like to make like what you're saying? There needs to be a reason to make these wholesale changes. It was like, yo, it wasn't that bad, was it? To make, like what you're saying, there needs to be a reason to make these wholesale changes other than just like, I, he probably knows that. They was playing bad golf in the fall
Starting point is 01:16:12 and look, he just had a baby in the fall and like life changes when all that stuff happens, you know, and golf can be different priority. You know, a lot of, it can change a lot of different things. It can change sleep routines, it can change, you know, perspective or all that stuff. Some people play a lot better after they have a baby, some people don't, and I don't know. It's, I don't have good feelings on it. I just, I root for him, so I don't like it. I don't like it.
Starting point is 01:16:36 I don't like it. Okay, so I'm not, yeah, I'm not trying to be, I know I'm coming off as critical and like, you're right. Like, he has all the information. I don't have any information. He and his team, they are the right ones to make this decision. But, fuck man, it doesn't look good. I think it's a tough thing for someone like him. It's got such a homemade swing with, you know, Kim McCormick and all that and never really had to think all that technically about it in the first place. And it's, you know, my fear is that it's changed,
Starting point is 01:17:05 it fundamentally changed the way he's playing golf now. Well, this was a battle for like three years until he reached this stage last year where it was kind of that brilliance was back and actually felt like he drove it better last year than he ever really did at his peak. His iron play was always an enormous strength in 2015 and 2017. And the reason why we end up spending so much time on this
Starting point is 01:17:24 is like people, it obviously there's recency bias and all this stuff, like I think this dude won like 11 times or something before his 24th birthday. Like we're talking about massive amounts of winning. Three majors before he turned 24 years old. That this is a totally different beginning to a career than we're used to seeing. And it's just, it's turned into a curious case.
Starting point is 01:17:46 And, uh, And he's a three-time master's winner, you know? At least. At least, that's what it feels like. I still, I cannot, you can't believe it. I can't believe that he's only one of the master's winners. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:17:55 It's like, he's a three-time winner in my head. Nobody can tell me any different. It's incredible. Gosh. I feel something, last thing I'll say, sometimes when I go and To the simulator and I start to see my numbers and I see my swing on film
Starting point is 01:18:10 I hate it. I hate and all I want to do is get the Path to look like to be 0.0, you know, and my smash factor to be Illegal to be 1.57 or whatever, right? And sometimes I feel like What I'm talking Sometimes you can get it over the the legal limit on the on the track man my point is I don't like going to the simulator because it makes me start making changes that I don't need to make and sometimes like when I'm looking at speed right now I feel like he's looking at a swing From like you said an an analytical, technical standpoint,
Starting point is 01:18:46 and it's like, oh, this could be better. And so I'm gonna change it because it can be better. Does it need to be better though? Did it need to be better? I don't know. But now we're in the middle of this tunnel. There's only one way out. Like you said, you're gonna commit to these changes
Starting point is 01:18:59 then you just gotta go and come into memory. And so. I also don't know how severe the changes are. The pre-shot routine is different, and the position at the top looks a little bit different, but it might be... It looks like he's trying to make this big difference at the top of the backswing, with the pre-shot.
Starting point is 01:19:13 He's trying to get this feel of like, yeah, I want the hands to be super high, and it just like, man. To me, that doesn't look natural. To me, that doesn't explain not putting it great either. It's not like it's off He just gets a little bit straightened out. It's really close like it just had then feel that close to me guys going You know 2021 we talked about Scotty had the you know the those 10 top 10 finishes I think
Starting point is 01:19:38 Speedhead nine Last year and we were an enormous start to the after match play last year. And we were an enormous start to the after match play last year. And then he goes and wins. He wins Texas Open last year, you know, Valero. So it's like we were kind of, he might go out win next week and it could. But he was almost one in the desert. He almost wants to beat you. Like he was killing it last year. It was a solo second at Pebble Beach this year, though, too. Did he really? Yeah. Jordan Speed did. Yes. Really? Yes.
Starting point is 01:20:07 I don't remember that. Maybe he's maybe because everybody was at the bone saw. That's right. There was no one at that one. I can see what is what did you trade? The best bag golfer of all time is at the first speed. I mean, I really used to call him that the best, which I think is still true. But like he got
Starting point is 01:20:25 he hit some. It's like going through a haunted house. Yeah, it's really bad time. It's not comfortable. It's not really fun but then you get done. You're like, oh shit, that was really fun. That was cool. That was cool. That was awesome. I want to go do it again. God, that guy jumped out of the chain. So, man, that guy jumped out of the closet. It was crazy. Anything else flag your guys attention as we as we look towards the masters here. I post a little something on tour to this week just kind of looking at the the three six and 12-month stroke-scaned numbers of of the top favorites. Everybody that was 50 50 to one or lower. Yeah, thank you for that. The blue guy thanks you for that. That was that
Starting point is 01:20:59 was a usable intel right there. It's what what what did you glean from that? That I need to keep an eye on a guy's like Cam Smith and just basically the odds. Guys won't let me get my bets in early. Favourite, you know, the big names are you get bad odds and the big names is what, you know, kind of well, it masters. It's, you know, it's it's a small amount of people can actually win it. There's so much course history to go off of. They have odds that are open year round for this. They don't really make themselves that vulnerable to that. But it is interesting to see how much respect spieth gets in it for not really putting
Starting point is 01:21:35 up numbers for a sustained period of time here. But JT trending is three month period is better than the six month period, which is better than this month period. As well, Patrick Cantler is astonishingly consistent among three, six and 12 months. Cam Smith trending the same way that JT is the numbers look astonishingly similar. That's what jumped out. He made some swing changes this off season too, which I feel like don't get really talked about, but he's made a huge leap. And I mean, I feel like he has it really, like he's been, he's had some good finishes, but I haven't thought he was gonna win at any point in the last three months.
Starting point is 01:22:11 So to see those numbers, that's the story of his career. You're like, oh man, like he's in the US. Yeah, in the top five, and then, but I haven't been like, oh man, Fitz really gave that one away, or, you know, he really charted, like, I haven't really thought about it. He just needs more, needs more, like, you know, times and contention, right? The guy that's jumping out to me on the odds, it's, you know, it's kind of down the board
Starting point is 01:22:34 a little bit, but it just feels a little bit light is out of Scott. Yep. It's 60 to one. Yep. His numbers have been very solid. Also, Zalatoris for coming off a runner up last year. 35 to one in his last three months. He's been almost two strokes gained player, which is not far behind Sheffler. So I'm a brazen. Not three. Six and not as bad 12 month wise, but three month and six months are small sample because he's been injured. So there's not a lot of, not a lot of data in there. And he's played some golf in tournaments when he has been injured. So, but he's it's been a long time since we've seen Bryson play good
Starting point is 01:23:07 golf. That is a takeaway for sure. DJ starting to wake up a little bit. You're bullish on Brooks. I have been and then the numbers come up and it's, you know, it's not, it's not great. He's 0.67, 0.39, 0.84 in the last three, six and 12 months. If you're not gaining over a shot, that's, which I would have to go back and compare that to some of his major Cs1 that may not be that dissimilar to the how he plays normal tour golf, but yeah, the numbers aren't quite, quite checking out for Brooks, kind of the way I felt like they were trending. He didn't pass, he was passing the eye test, but he's not passing the numbers test.
Starting point is 01:23:38 But if you're looking for a couple sleepers for, maybe not necessarily to win, but Shane Lowry and Russell Henley were guys that were popping off. Models were popping off yet were less than more than 50 to one to win that to win. Henley wasn't even listed because he's not in the technically in the field yet, but just if you need some guys that are hitting the crap out of the golf ball and getting it in the hole for top 10, top 20s, look into those. I just I can't get JT off my mind. I think JT's primed.
Starting point is 01:24:06 I mean, I think people are already forgetting how freaking good Ram is. Yes. Ram's putting, I think, seems to be a kind of a real thing though. So far this year and but to the JT point, I think it's maybe been underplayed him with bones on the bag for the first time. Bones has been on three winning masters bags. He knows all kinds of weird, crazy shit about that golf course. I mean, all you gotta do is hear him tell the story of, Bones has been on three winning Masters bags. He knows all kinds of weird, crazy shit about that golf course. I mean, all you got to do is hear him tell the story of coming
Starting point is 01:24:30 up with the theory that there's the ball flies like seven yards further on the 16th hole and then putting it into play with Phil at the 2004 Masters to know like, can it make a difference in a shot or two in that golf tournament? A million percent. Yes, it can. That's not to say Jimmy Johnson's not a great caddy, but there's something about, you know, being in the pressure situations on that golf course and being able to give the advice that might make the difference. The other one that jumps out from that group of 5,000 at the bottom is hadn't. Yep.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Just trending 1.23 12 month 1.51 and 1.88 just consistently. And I haven't, I guess I haven't really felt like he was playing that good, but you know, numbers, numbers are right here. So guys, I got a weird feeling about P. No, stop, stop. I do. Don't, I do. Don't do it. He's trending the wrong way. He's got two. He's got two made cuts in a row. Or, you know, he's he's made the cut at the match. And it's good. He's numbers. He's trending. He's heard though. Yeah, but the numbers look pretty good here. All right. Is is Hovelin just too bad of a chipper of the golf ball
Starting point is 01:25:41 to garner serious attention? No, I mean, he he hits the shit out of it. And if he's if there's a week where, you know, three of those balls are ending up on the green instead of around the green, that could be the difference maker. Um, he was, he was a factor last year dressed like a, you know, fifth grader and do what his thing. I feel like he would be, I mean, I could just go ahead and pencil in a top 10 bet. Like he will finish top 10th masters. I, you know, I just don't, I struggled to see him winning it, but there's no reason to
Starting point is 01:26:11 ever say that on the podcast. Why would I say that? He probably will win it now and play that. It's just crazy to see how deep it is. Like, I could see walking Neiman going out and, you know, playing well, I could see Daniel Berger. Yeah, you should be wait until we go to list off every, every person and be like, I could see Daniel Berger. Yeah, usually we wait till we go to list off every person and be like,
Starting point is 01:26:27 I could see that guy winning. I could see Thomas Peters going out and doing some things. You know, it's just, we gotta get through, we haven't even talked to Corralis Puntikani yet. Well, I thought you were gonna, at least mention too that you Skullfax was back in a big way this past.
Starting point is 01:26:40 But she is, yeah, well that's what has me kind of hyped for. That's what you bullish on T. Which, you know, if she's sticking her chin out a little bit, then, you know, month and lady Jay. She's definitely got non-public available info that we were talking about earlier. So that's a good sign.
Starting point is 01:26:57 I've kind of like taken the last, you know, week and a half off of Twitter after the, like, the players just kind of took it out of me. So I was like, all right, but she's kept me kind of engaged, man. She's she's really bringing the noise. Good. Keep an eye on that. Something to watch the next couple of weeks. Well, I threw it out there.
Starting point is 01:27:13 I was like, I wonder, Sam Burns is going to be a three time winner playing in his first masters. I wonder how many three time winners are playing in their first masters. And she took her a couple days reply. She replied, Patrick Reed. Yeah. Probably at 3 a.m. too, right? Yes, it was. And I was like, that doesn't seem right. Looked it reply. She replied, Patrick Reed. Yeah. Probably at 3 a.m. too, right?
Starting point is 01:27:25 Yes, it was. And I was like, that doesn't seem right. Looked it up. She was right. She was absolutely right. He was a three time winner making his master's debut. Do you want to talk about Corralis? I do.
Starting point is 01:27:36 Chad Ramey. Impressive win, man. PGA tour rookie. He is beating up the island tour this year. This season I should say, T5 in Puerto Rico a few weeks ago, T17 at the Butterfield Bermuda Championship in the fall, and now he wins. He's not doing the Hofflin playbook. He's the island boy.
Starting point is 01:27:59 He's the newest island boy. PGA Tour rookie out of Mississippi State, 29 years old kind of bounced around Canadian tour, corn fairy tour and gets a W always like seeing these journeyman guys kind of, you know, reach paid art after seven strong years of like, you know, slowly, methodically moving towards the target. So, and I know that just as much as you know, we were celebrating, you know, the 12th man on the U.S. rider cup team winning the WGC this past week.
Starting point is 01:28:28 I know on the same level, you know, Rasmus Hoigard finishing T6 and Corralis was a big news for the European side. I believe it was solo six. Oh, solo six. I apologize. He shot 67 today. Wow. Very good.
Starting point is 01:28:39 Clean card 67. How does brother do? He missed the cut. Okay. But yeah, I think it's, you know, it portends the future of the Euro squad. Portans good things for the Euro squad. You said, Lauer, young hitter, Justin Lauer played with, uh, yes, I have yet to get a full report, but Lauer played well this week as well.
Starting point is 01:28:56 And I'll get a full report from him. And then, uh, very interested to see the scores on the Euro tour this week were like major championship conditions. The winning score was, it was, it was a car master seven under. Scott's been you and Ferguson won, eagle to 16, birdie, 18 to win. It's all I wanted to do to alert you. American Chase Hannah, he's a Kansas alum, solo second, some potential manipulation going on there. I'll. Keep an eye on that
Starting point is 01:29:26 You know just hasn't done shit on the challenge tour or the Euro tour and all of a sudden he's he's finishing solo second there I know there's this has been there's been bothering you and I appreciate you putting this on the agenda as well But some European guy allegedly there's been some European guys out there not yelling for there have yeah I noticed that the players. Yeah. I noticed that this past week at the Dell match play, they don't seem to get the same vitriolic response on Twitter from the blocs and the chaps and
Starting point is 01:29:55 the lads. We're just asking for just one consistency. Guys. All right. That's all we're looking for over here. Transparency and consistency. Any any you know Tron Carter has put this on himself to be the police are evolved this. So any and all looking for over here, transparency and consistency. That's what we're looking for. Any, you know, Tron Carter has put this on himself to be the police revolve this.
Starting point is 01:30:08 So any and all instances of people not doing it, no matter of nationality, please. Please tag him at Tron Carter in on you. You'll come in from the top rope, along with all slow play. Somebody tweeted me this week and was like, Hey, I'm not sure if you're like dead serious, totally earnest.
Starting point is 01:30:21 Hey, I'm not sure if you've addressed this or not, but like, like, I saw that. I saw that. Do people, like, have you ever addressed, like, I'm not sure if you've addressed this or not, but like, like, I saw like, do people like, have you ever addressed like these guys not yelling for and I was like, oh my gosh, have I ever? So you know, uh, question about the, uh, Corralis, uh, I think the last three holes are nicknamed devils elbow. Any anybody know why the people's elbow? Why, why is the elbow? Like, I think it's a, it has something to do with the shape of the 18th hole is kind of like a Okay, it's a elbow shape part. It's got a really weird hole. What other what other devil devil nicknames do we have out there?
Starting point is 01:30:54 Do you know about devil's asshole? Yeah, the bunker this TC would know the temple at the pine Valley That's devils the devil's asshole. Okay. I mean it just struck me as weird like the devil's I might start nickname and's the devil's ass hole. Okay. I mean, it just shook me as like the devil's, I might start nicknames and stuff, the devil's sternum, the devil's, devil's pung hole. The devil's hip flexor, like no, I just, Elbow is so random, it's not like the devil's heart or is brain.
Starting point is 01:31:18 Elbow's kind of a Caribbean like term, like they use it for like a, there's like Elbow key down in the Bahamas, I think and stuff like that. I will say up in Ontario, Devils Pulpit and Devils Cauldron, they changed the names and now it's just the Pulpit Club. Okay. Which you know, I don't know if that's just because they're trying to get rid of the evil monocards or whatnot. Do you guys see the big news coming out of the USGA?
Starting point is 01:31:42 Yeah, I put it on my calendar already. Tell us about it though. 2051. Huge. And 2034. Sky Shuffler's gonna be 75 for that US Open. I mean, so 2051, that's in what, 29 years? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:57 That's a long time to be announcing. Why do they do that? I'll be 64. Like why would, why would, I honestly, why do they want to lock themselves into a course 27 years from now? Like what's the, what's the 29 years from now? Like what's the, I don't know, business case for that.
Starting point is 01:32:15 We might need somebody on from the USGA, maybe around the USO. Like does that build suspense? Do they need 29 years to get ready? I mean, the, what if the clubs not around in 20? You know, like there's a lot to get happen in 29 years. Is it even worth making that announcement? I don't, I don't understand the logic there. I'm sure there's, I'm sure there's a reason why, but yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:34 Bigger news out of there was the Walker Cup moving to even years starting in 2026. I guess they're gonna play it two years in a row. It would appear so, yeah. And yeah, because they're trying to avoid the Olympics. So cool. That. Hey, one. DP World Tour. You got or did you world is this is probably more in the trap draw, you know, side of things, but it ties in enough with golf. DP World, I guess they're like a large logistics company. They they own P and O fairies over in the UK, a
Starting point is 01:33:01 SACC to eight or 900 employees without warning a couple of weeks ago. Great use of SACC by the way. And they're getting absolutely dragged by virtually everybody over in the UK. Sound like some bad oombrés, a lot of bad PR going around for them. So keep an eye on it. Yeah, we're monitoring. On the LPGA tour front, we are currently in a playoff as we speak between NANACz Madsen and Atea Tittacle. I hope I did that right. Nanakirtz Madsen just three-potted the 18th hole for only Bogey of the day that would have won the
Starting point is 01:33:34 JTCB, do I mean doing that right? JTCB. JTCB, I did that. I transcribe it. You're one of your favorite courses in the US. Aviarra, a true classic design. It's, I would say it's Arnold Palmer's memorial to the Fox. It's Arnold Palmer's elbow. So it's more fucking waterfalls on that course. There's so many flowers and so many water features. It's crazy. There's also like a couple of worst holds.
Starting point is 01:34:00 Arnold Palmer's funny bone. I'm not going back to, try to go back going back to try to go back to back. Trying to go back to back. She had it. They're going to go to play off here here shortly. But Ginya and Coe had it. She's opening around 65. I'm not even going to go through all the stats.
Starting point is 01:34:14 It has been. We retweeted several of them this past week, but she's been on a, I hate to do it, but a tigerish run as it dates back to back into the fall. She hit something like, I made a joke, a tweet listing off some of stats and I joke that she had roughly had 198% of her greens in regulation and very, some very, very serious replies. I say, how do you hit 198% of your greens in regulation? That seems impossible.
Starting point is 01:34:38 So, really, really appreciate that. She finished T for two shots out of the playoff and what would appear to be an off week for her. She's been playing some of the most unbelievable golf that I can recall seeing. But I didn't get a chance to watch a lot of that between match play and Corralis and but that is well, we got a major coming up this week. enormous. The the final Dina Shore Dina Shore. I always get it wrong in my head every single time. It's like wellbur Walbert from the sea. There's certain words out there.
Starting point is 01:35:07 It is. It is. I don't even remember which one it is. We just, we just cleared it. But that's coming up this week. That's the final one out at, in the desert out west. Big Randy's going to be out there for a couple of days. If he doesn't jump into Poppy's pond, I swear on Wednesday or Thursday while he's there,
Starting point is 01:35:23 I'm going to be so disappointed in the big guy. So people, if you're listening, get in Randy's DMs, tell him that it's a must that he takes the dive into poppy's pond. I'm super interested in this upcoming week. And we're going to have some interview podcasts coming out this coming week from onsite from Big Randy out at the chevron, which has been the A and A. It was previously known as the A andA inspiration. It will be moving to Houston with the new Chevron sponsorship. Have they announced the course yet in Houston? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:35:50 I thought it was champions. Is it not? I don't know. I don't know. I'd have to look that up, actually, but I'm super if you remember last year, Patty Tavitanikit basically went what she did go wire to wire. She basically ran away with it except for the fact that Lydia Koshat, a final round 62 to almost run her down in supreme fashion on that final day.
Starting point is 01:36:10 But excited for the first major of the year. And then we had the anwa of course on Saturday, TC, but the big event for next weekend, of course, the drive chip and putt. And TC is super excited about that. Are you going to be on site? I'm, listen, I'm totally fine with the drive chip and putt except for the 14 year old version. 14, 15 last year or a couple years ago There were some 16 year olds that had cuz of COVID they got they got an extra year
Starting point is 01:36:31 There what that was tough and like every year some parents like some Completely earnest angry parents send me a letter like oh you like you have no idea what this meant to my 15 year old to make It's like hold you know what get your 15 year old to make. It's like, hold, you know what? Get your 15 year out there, plan some real fucking golf. Okay. They got to be conny though. She's out there holding court. Bubba's out there.
Starting point is 01:36:51 Walking them two and from the green. It's great stuff. Come on, don't rain on their parade, T.C. I can't do it. Anything else from the world of golf is a time to get into some F1. And what did Rachel Heck peak too early? What happened with Rachel Heck?
Starting point is 01:37:07 She didn't play well this week. She didn't win. That was in Arizona. No, she finished like, not even top 40. Rose played well, but Rachel did not. So, I don't know, we're monitoring. I'm excited. I've never got to watch the end wall.
Starting point is 01:37:21 I've had some, I've had complications both years that it's, that it's run and I have not got to sit and watch it. And I haven't got to watch it live, I watch replays, but I'm excited to watch it for the first time this upcoming Saturday. Great holes. Seven, like watching the ladies play seven, super, super interesting.
Starting point is 01:37:36 You went to it in person last year. But just watching them navigate some of the slopes and some like coming in with less spin, it's super interesting thought exercise. Any more golf, are we good to flip the flip over and to form you the one here? No, I'm good. Real quick on the golf run.
Starting point is 01:37:51 I want to give a shout out to, I went out last weekend to Oakland and played Cora Capark, which was in Alameda. It's 36 whole complex. The South courses, Reese Jones redid it. There's some cool holes. There's a lot of bad Reese Jones shit too. Like some of the most monotonous,
Starting point is 01:38:10 very bunkering ever. But the North course was redone recently the front nine of the North course, I should say, was recently redone by an Australian Mark Logan. And I just wanted to say how much I enjoyed it. Like it was equal parts, the old course and sweetens cove.
Starting point is 01:38:28 Like it, it was so firm, they dropped, you know, hundreds of tons of sand on this site. It was only 3,000 yards. It, it was the most fun I've had playing golf in the United States in, you know, months, if not years. It was awesome. Strong endorsement. And the place gyms, the restaurant on site,
Starting point is 01:38:51 I've never seen anything like it domestically. Like it was like a true community park. It was probably 80% non-golfers and 20% golfers sitting out in this big courtyard. Alameda was delightful. Korakapark, you gotta go check it out next time you're in the air. And the, the, uh,
Starting point is 01:39:07 Refuge Roost because you were out there for the event that's put on by the, uh, the NorCal chapter. Yeah. No offense to anyone else. That was the best refuge event I've been to thus far. Look, look it up. If you're out in the Bay area, look up the, uh, the local roost, they're getting some good stuff going. The NorCal guy. Tc was pleased when he got back. He was raving about it on our team call on Monday. Buzzing. Yeah, he was.
Starting point is 01:39:28 All right. F1 F1 for the what about is him grand prix in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Things kick off with a rebel missile strike hit an oil depot nine miles from the track on Saturday after qualifying. There was a four hour meeting debating whether or not they were going to be doing the race. Like the team principles came back at like one 30 a.m. to like help complete the meeting or something like that. The drivers were still in the meeting.
Starting point is 01:39:57 There was all kinds of stuff flying around about how, you know, what the consequence should we have this race? What are the consequences if we don't have this race with Sadie Rabie's history with what they've done with WWE and it's just that alone. Just amazing. I read that. I was like, wait, what happened? Why are we doing this?
Starting point is 01:40:13 They wouldn't let the wrestlers leave. Like that's just such a bizarre organization to ground on the tarmac for for a while. Yeah. It's, you know, as we always looked to form the one to be the moral compass, the sports moral compass for everything here. So we, I stick to sports.
Starting point is 01:40:30 But they did run the race. They ran the race and it was, it was kind of a weirdly, it was dramatic finish, but I felt like it was weirdly not dramatic. I feel like it was, Max or Stappen wins, comes from behind with a pretty dramatic overtake of Charlotte Claire coming down the finish and I felt like it was kind of,
Starting point is 01:40:48 almost routine, it was weird. And then Charlotte was trying to, you know, the last two laps, get them back. But it seems like there's so much more strategy with these new cars with, like, you can't overtake too quickly because then you run the risk of giving the spot back because you give them time on the straightaway to then overtake you because then they get DRS, right?
Starting point is 01:41:07 Yeah, it's something not great is going on where you're letting guys go by or you're waiting to pass in certain spots so they can't get DRS back on you. And it's kind of nice for there's more overtaking than previous versions, but it seems weird to have like part of the strategy be like, go slow for a little while
Starting point is 01:41:27 to make sure you're behind this guy. So you can use the cheat codes, the Mario star mode. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do in the hotel I had on qualifying, just caught that Lewis Hamilton just laid an egg. Oh my God. I did make it through the first stage and they cut all these shots in the crowd. Oh my God. Neil, Neil check this out. Lewis Hamilton finished 10th today, P10. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:58 A Haas. I know he got beat by finished P9. And I didn't realize are our Danish buddies back. Magnusen, Magnusen. Yeah. Good for him. That's good to see him back in the hospital. Good racing. I will fix this gene. No, I will fix it.
Starting point is 01:42:13 I've been watching drivers survive. I'm on I got two episodes left. It's been really good. I've really enjoyed it. I've read a lot of criticisms about it. And I'm like, I did not experience that while watching it. You watch a lot more F1 than me. So a lot of this stuff from last year is kind of news.
Starting point is 01:42:25 To me, like I knew the general storyline of Lewis and Max and everything, but I didn't realize, you know, that the show's maybe not like, uh, uh, George as much, you know, with the, I haven't started this season yet. So I don't know. I, I, I, now he's in a Mercedes. It all worked out for him. Yeah, just a little, maybe too much of a pretty boy. I don't know. Like in his whole, his whole vibes a little, like two,. Yeah, just a little maybe too much of a pretty boy. I don't know like in his whole his whole vibes a little like to it's a little bit too much
Starting point is 01:42:49 team rose for me. If I was going to make a comp to golf, you know, just proud like a lot of proud partners very polished very buttoned up but also kind of smug and then you know, it gets in that dust up with the voucher with Valt with Valtteri, who also reminds me of a golfer, reminds me of Hatton. I feel like they're like twins, man. They're not Hattin the way they, like, just their whole, like, I don't know. The way Hattin without a hat on is like, is Botos to me.
Starting point is 01:43:15 How they look alike. I think how they behave is very... No, no, that, that, that, Terrell, Terrell Hatt off. Yeah, there we go. If you will, if you will, thank you. Um, I, I'm amazed that drivers survive's ability to make, like, whoever they flash on the screen,
Starting point is 01:43:25 I'm like, oh, that's my favorite guy now. And then the next guy, I'm like, oh, no, that's my favorite. So they even made Valtry look really good. But Mazepin's not in a hostage here. They cut him while you were gone. Well, he just started a foundation this week. So that's recent. For Russian athletes who are no longer
Starting point is 01:43:40 allowed to participate. We gotta catch Neil up on this. So why aren't you honeymoon Russian, Vade, and Ukraine? No, I know that. But I was curious if the Mazapin thing, like was was that old news that like they broke up and did did they take the money?
Starting point is 01:43:52 So Mazapins dad or Mazapin senior, whatever is a Russian oligarch that has the first fertilizer king of Moscow. It's like the modern Abe Froman, who like he like allegedly like met with Putin like the Thursday before they invaded like very close He died with him and so as soon as that happened they cut him cut the money and cut Mazepin as well So okay, so what does that mean for Haas like where they get the money? I don't know
Starting point is 01:44:16 Gene, you need to find him on the line. She need to you need to fix this okay, not me. You need to fix it I mean I need more German drivers. Yeah But Magdus had coming out and I whereas he in the standing as a right now this. Okay, not me. You need to fix it. I mean, I need more German drivers. Yeah. But Magnus had coming out and I, where is he in the standing as a right now? He's got to be in the top five, right? No, maybe not. Kevin Magnuson so far. He's eighth with 12 points so far. I thought, all right, couple takeaways from today. Check out that done dirty. Yeah, signs of the fluffer, check out, you know, I'm tired of all these people getting on the checko bandwagon. The people who didn't support him, like when he was, you know, jousting with O'Conn and things of that nature. Like, if you weren't with him then, you're not with him now,
Starting point is 01:44:57 okay? So it's all I'm looking at you on checko. Checko is my guy. I made that very clear. on checko. Checko is my guy. I made that very clear. I thought Max was very bitchy at the end of the race. This is not fair. It's not fair. It's not fair. You can't do that. It's not fair. TCC is developing a Christian Horner Max complex here. I hate seeing it. Apparently he's going over the line. He's calling in. He's calling for the official. And his own team said, Max, let us do our jobs. We're watching the race. We will inform these stewards of any, any, you know. I have a feeling that Max is now into this phase of
Starting point is 01:45:34 the, all of the messages are gonna get relayed. Like Hamilton was the one, has been the whineiest since I've been watching, but like, probably everything Hamilton says makes it on television, right? Whereas not everything Lance Stroll says is making it on television. Or you dad. Everything Yuki says should make it on television. Yeah, but it doesn't.
Starting point is 01:45:53 I mean, you know what? Shout out to Ferrari, man. Oh my god, I got it together. You're a boy. The team principal. The no to. You're boy. We fixed the dump trucks. I mean, I was surprised Max was able to get the Claire. I mean, the Ferrari felt like it didn't feel like it was a matter of time.
Starting point is 01:46:10 That's what I do like about the new era so far at least. It's like the certain teas don't seem to be nearly as certain, right? There's no like, oh, Max is going to run that guy down or blah, blah, blah. It just seems like there's actual contest to be had. We'll see how, how well it ends up working out. It's kind of, it's weird. I like the reach-effel. I mean, I like Mercedes truly being,
Starting point is 01:46:30 I think they're like, plus 700 to win the constructors as of right now. Like Slate, man. They're in trouble. And they're like, who's in big trouble, McLaren? Yeah, they look bad. The Zach Brown band. Hate that.
Starting point is 01:46:40 York Times. Also, we gotta get Yuki's car figured out. Okay. Can't have him not even be in the him not even we're heading down to Australia next week. It is. Okay. First time down there and what three years I don't know. I could be wrong. I did not look at this.
Starting point is 01:46:53 I don't know why I just confirmed that. I think it is. It is. It's Australia April 8th through 10th. Okay. So a master's weekend week off. So the 10th, yeah. Go.
Starting point is 01:47:03 That would make sense. And then Italy and then the United States Miami, the crypto.com Miami Grand Prix. Yeah, the crypto.com billboards were noticeable. Yes, they're out there. You want to bring us through some, some updates around around the Horn here at NL UNU? Yes, NLU updates. The Zars back. Well, hello, hello world. And with that, you need to change
Starting point is 01:47:27 although, I mean, this is, although it'd be more Russian imperial Russia versus the other. It's a different era. I mean, I never really thought about that. But you're, I appreciate you watching out for me, not getting, not getting canceled. Maybe you're the more the merch oligarch. Yeah. No, that would be worse. That would be the modern. I think Zarr is a little, you know, it's historic. Anyway, we're getting back to our roots,
Starting point is 01:47:49 spring collection in the pro shops, going live on Thursday. So H&B stuff, we got some master steam stuff coming out, really excited about this. I think it's some of the crispy stuff they were done. Shout out to TC, it's from the twisted mind of TC with the Holderness and Born stuff, some of the best logo and color combos we've ever
Starting point is 01:48:07 done. We got some print polos coming out too with them. That'll launch to everybody Thursday. You can sign up for the newsletter newsletter dot no laying up dot com. Also going to launch probably Tuesday to nest members. So get a little early access. If you're a nest member, check the Pro Shop thread on our message board. The refuge for more information on that, but we will make it very easy to find for Nest members on the message board Tuesday. But yeah, it's time to get back in the saddle. We've been kind of in hibernation on the merch front, but I think we got some big stuff. It's going to be kind of rolling thunder the next two, two, three months, so I'm excited about that.
Starting point is 01:48:40 And then what else do we have cooking? We got a good nest member giveaway going on this week too, with our friends at BMW. We're giving away a M school driving school, either at Spartan burg in South Carolina, at their driving performance center or at the one in Thermal, California. Basically just sign up. There'll be a link. I'm going to put it in the newsletter, open a nest members. And yeah, we're just going to pick a random nest member that wants to go drive awesome BMW cars as fast as possible and so much fun. Professional drivers. It's even more fun when you're not driving when you're riding with. Yes. So joy riding with the race car drivers. It's, it's really, really fun. So that's a full day thing and they, you know,
Starting point is 01:49:27 different opportunities so it'll, whoever wins, we can work with their schedule. At some point this year, get them out to one of those, one of those driving days. So yeah, those are the kind of the two big things that I mentioned the Odyssey staff bag giveaway. We're gonna do that on Thursday. And then Masters week, we got a bunch of stuff cooking.
Starting point is 01:49:41 I think we're gonna do a draft King's fantasy pool with some cool prizes and stuff there, but I think it's good. I'm back from the honeymoon refreshed, ready to dive in on some hashtag activations, baby. What was your favorite part of the honeymoon? Well, I want to get on the trap draw and get into it in detail, but I think being down in Patagonia, Mt. Fitzroy,
Starting point is 01:50:03 which is like the Patagonia clothing company, like those are the mountains on their logo. Like just epic, epic, it's like a different planet down there. Really, really cool. The weather was great. So we got in some, some long, like 20 kilometer hikes, you know, two or three days down there. You know, I'm a little, you know, the food was good.
Starting point is 01:50:22 A lot of assado, a lot of lamb. I'm good on lamb. A lot of lot of lamb. I'm good on lamb. I'm a lot of protein. Yeah, I'm good on lamb. It's really good meat, but it's like, there's no frills. It's like meat, maybe some chimichurri sauce. There's not a lot of koo-triments with it. It's like, but it's really tender, it's really good.
Starting point is 01:50:36 After a couple of weeks, I'm like, all right, I'm good on the meats. I've been, I get the meat sweat still. So, I'm out of stock. I know how stock feels. And I want to say, the first time I've ever the meat sweats still. So, I'm out of the zuck. I know how zuck feels. And I want to say, the first time I've ever flown first class, I opted to do the Delta Lay Flat. Man, it is so, so dope.
Starting point is 01:50:54 It is so, I swear to God, it's so nice. Oh, look at this strap boy. I know, I know I got a taste in the C-suite, but it's great. You're in like a little cocoon up there and you got this massive screen. You watch some movies. I felt like a little kid.
Starting point is 01:51:08 You know, I really did. It was so, it was so much, the flight was so much fun on the way there and I slept great on the way home. So it kind of helped me get back into, into the work stuff this week. So I think I'm all caught up. Happy to be back. By the way, I don't think we brought up the fact that the whole boat fiasco. Was it really a fiasco?
Starting point is 01:51:24 Yeah. It was distracting. It was right in the Scotty's line of sight. I don't think we brought up the fact that the whole boat fiasco. Was it really a fiasco? Yeah. It was distracting. It was right in the sky. It was lying aside. They didn't rev the engine, but they were just kind of drifting. And it was a little... And then so then the boat disappears and all of a sudden,
Starting point is 01:51:34 the zuck comes out of nowhere on the hydrofoil when he chips in from the bunker. It was like, what's next back there? It was almost like a Truman show shit. Like now let's throw the hydrofoil out. It was so Austin. Yeah, it was. It was keeping it weird for sure. So yeah, I think that's that's it. That's a wrap on match play week. That is a wrap. Fun week. Appreciate everyone tuning in. We got, as we mentioned,
Starting point is 01:51:56 the LPGA tours first major this week and while and then rolling into biggest week of the year, safe to say, masters week. We'll have a lot more to come that week as well. Obviously live shows all week for that and some content coming from on the ground this week at the Chevron. I say, hey, hey, the Chevron. I'll screw that up again. We got Valero going to get Chevron.
Starting point is 01:52:15 Big oil week. Oh, that is a huge oil week. That's true. I didn't even think about that. So thank you, everyone, for tuning in. We'll see you back here next week. Cheers. Be the right club. Be the right club today.
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