No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 545: Heritage Recap with Justin Hueber

Episode Date: April 18, 2022

For the second consecutive Easter, Jordan Spieth wins on the PGA Tour as he claims the Heritage in a playoff over Patrick Cantlay. We recap all the action from Hilton Head Island including HV3's close... call and Morgan Hoffman's return to the Tour, plus LIV golf is back in the news, the LPGA in Hawaii, Hueber's announcing debut and some stories from the NLU Scotland Trip.  If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA). 21+ (18+ NH/WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NH/NJ/NY/OR/ PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. Min. $5 deposit required. Eligibility restrictions apply. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yes. That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Langa podcast back from Galovanting around Scotland, Sully here, Big Randy calling in from the Mountain West time zone. Hello, Big. How are we today?
Starting point is 00:00:40 I am great. I don't, is that where I am right now? I don't quite know where I am or what time it is. At least my body doesn't but Very happy to be here. Thanks for having me. Hello to you, Sally and also and also joining us in the killhouse tonight Made as announcing debut this week on the corn fairy torch. We're gonna chat a little bit about but becoming a somewhat regular on this podcast Mr. Justin Hubert welcome back Pleasure to be back. This may feel like a little bit of a cakewalk tonight instead of, uh, said what I did the past few days. So I'm looking forward to this. I will say you committed to doing this, uh, somewhat last minute, but
Starting point is 00:01:12 also before a spieth one. So I don't feel as bad now that spieth one. Cause it, you know, today, this Easter Sunday is a big ask for, uh, for Sunday night recording. But we talk a lot about what is in the hands of tour players like John Rom in his rogue ST like my ex forged irons deals triple track golf ball, but we rarely talk about what is on those hands. The Callaway tour authentic glove is what Callaway professional staffers around the world trust. And it's what we wear whenever we're out on the golf course. Before I ever put one of these on, I was always buying whatever was the cheapest on the shelf. For some reason, those gloves never lasted.
Starting point is 00:01:43 They were very poor quality. They turned into like baseball gloves after about five uses. After I tried the tour authentic glove, I have never switched back and will never switch back. I'll be wearing them for life. It's tackier, softer and thinner. It's made from premium, cabretta leather and infused with grip tack for a second skin fit and a 20% increase in grip performance. Check out the Calloway Tour authentic glove at Calloway Golf.com. A true story here. My grips had actually gotten really worn down. I hadn't even noticed it because of how good the grips were on the glove. And you know, I've got glangial issues and all that stuff. And I haven't I haven't I haven't really complained about any
Starting point is 00:02:16 of those in quite some time. So hey, Hey, Hubert, where would you rank Cabretta leather amongst all others premium? It's premium. That's really others. I don't know what I don't know what could be above it because when you throw the title premium in there, it it it takes it to the top. He handled like it to true broadcasting professional right there. That's all what he's from you know, he was the only way I'm going to wear premium. So Jordan's beef is back is Jordan's beef back big Randy. I think he's back. I think he's back baby. I've never seen a collective lay down crowning like we saw today. It just was glorious. Guys were getting out of the way. The Red Sea was parting and our king is back. It's been a long
Starting point is 00:03:01 year, but man, golf is better when when Jordan's in the winter circle. When he birdied 18, it kind of felt a little bit like, I know exactly what's about to happen here, that putt on 18 on Saturday is going to get replayed and replayed. He finished one shot short, try out an effort to make that birdie on 18. And then even so he had a point eight, a win percent probability when he teed off on 18. It went to five when he birdied it and that was basically like maybe he'll get a three-way playoff and somehow win it. That was like basically what they're counting on. He almost wins it outright. So I was definitely I did not think 13 was going to be good enough
Starting point is 00:03:38 for a playoff. Did you ever you are a professional golfer Justin Juber. You know how scores can be weird especially on a day like this, where scores were, you know, the leaderboard was kind of moving all day. Did that ever look like 13 under was gonna get into playoff? When he finished out, I went out for a walk and I told Sarah,
Starting point is 00:03:54 I was like, Speed bird, he'd got to 13. He's in the lead right now, but he's not gonna win. So I'm cool with taking a little breather and I come back in and because Lowry was 14 then, come back in, we couldn't have been out there 20 minutes and I come back in because Lowry was 14 then come back in.
Starting point is 00:04:05 We couldn't have been out there 20 minutes and Lowry's at 12 and Spieth was alone at the top and I'm going, what just happened? And then you watch him come down the stretch and they hit good shots, hit good putts. And I mean, I was certain that Cantlay was going to make the putt on 18 in regulation. And then I thought for sure Lowryry makes the put on 17 in regulation. And like you said, they just, they didn't go in and he ends up getting another opportunity. I can guarantee you speed did not think that he was going to be in a playoff when he finishes around because it's the volume of guys too, right?
Starting point is 00:04:38 I mean, you give that many guys that much opportunity. A lot of guys still had the 14th whole, the 15th whole to play, which which is part five that played as one of the easiest holes on the golf course and the easiest hole in the back nine. That and 16 was also played as a really easy hole. So you just think with that many guys, somebody's going to go out and and make two birdies and it just did not happen. 17 to 17 was a wedge down the window today for most of the guys like just the sheer law of averages. Like someone's going to make twoies. And they didn't. Harold's put on 18.
Starting point is 00:05:06 I thought that was, I thought that was going in about halfway there. And that was a great effort. That was a really, really good one. Especially after his last couple attempts weren't maybe the best, kind of botched 15 and then put on 17 was a couple feet short. But either way, it was a treat to watch, speed get the dub and kind of felt icky in the playoff with can't really get in the plug lie.
Starting point is 00:05:29 And but he had he he should never have hit it there, right? I mean, that that did not add up for me with speed already in the bunker. I know it's a front pin, but it just seemed like the margin of error he should have been playing past that pin. I think you had just a little bit of wind. I don't inconsistency there because speed looked like he flushed it. He gave it a little twirl. It was leaning a little bit, but I mean, they're coming up.
Starting point is 00:05:50 They're not really trying to fly at whole high. They're trying to fly it on the front, but they're still coming up five yard short. And then, Kangly didn't look like he missed it at all. I mean, that ball's right at it. To come up that short, they just, I think they just misjudged it and can't really kind of got the raw end of it hitting the better t-shot being closer. Through it up a little higher. I mean, spieth kind of waved that and he had a long way in and so his ball doesn't plug and then can't least does. So just neat to see spieth get it done. It felt like a very spieth win. Just like, oh, he won. Like what?
Starting point is 00:06:21 He putted terrible all week. This is not, I don't know, it just felt felt very speak like felt weird. Randy, did you like speech chances better at holding the bunker shot in the playoff or making a five footer for the win? I honestly probably holding the bunker shot and man, I looked in for a little bit. I go back to what you guys were saying. I couldn't believe the Bullets he dodged on 15. Not one of those guys at 12 made birdie on, well, in Canley who finished at 13 under. Not one of those guys birdied 15. And that was a real shocker to me. I earlier in the day, I was thinking 15 was the number, you know, maybe for a playoff
Starting point is 00:07:05 event and just could not believe the string of bad breaks, just squirrely shots, misputs, coming in and it all lined up for speed. Very cool. How about him saying I want to golf tournament without my putter? I can't tell that's a good or bad thing. Like if we're, if we're rooting for something to come back for speed, we've been kind of lamenting this pre-shot routine and it doesn't look great blah, blah, blah. Maybe it's just because it's, you know, he, it, it, it flowed a lot better.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Having him hit really good golf shots, but it looks less labor some beforehand. At least he looks like he's sliding right into it and he's, he's hitting golf shots again, not making golf swings at it. But yeah, the putting thing I think is still an issue. I think I guess I'm a little bit reserved on this win because it felt like a T3, like with where he finished, how he finished and luck really fell his way to get the win more so than it felt like
Starting point is 00:07:58 a dominant spieth performance. So I don't know, I'm kind of wishy-washy on it. I'm very, very encouraged by leading the field in Stroke's game T to Green, but it still feels like there's like one more, it felt like he won with like his B game, which I think is a good sign and I probably should be more excited than I am,
Starting point is 00:08:12 but it felt like, I don't know, I'm struggling to kind of get this out. I just didn't, it didn't give me hope for what's to come because it still feels like the putter is a serious issue. It's not like one of those weeks where he's Porn it in you're like, oh, he's he's about to go on a heater. It's like oh my gosh. She won, but He may miss the cut next week. Yeah, I will say he gets the ball up and down from everywhere and everyone did Shane Lowry I'm washing this going. I'm bogey.'s bogie for me, that's another bogie.
Starting point is 00:08:45 And these guys are flicking it up, spieth chips at inside three feet every time. All day. Lowry was getting it up and down. He had to chip out on 13, gets it up and down from 100 yards on 12e, it's at long in the pine straw and gets it up and down. It was just, that's why, another reason why
Starting point is 00:09:02 I didn't think spieth had a chance because it didn't seem like these guys were ever gonna to make any bogies. And then, obviously, Larry chips it in the water and the rest of history, but taking me to that chip because it was a difficult, he's way left of the of the green on 13 is it? Sorry, 14, the part of three, yet. And the pin is back right and it's slippery, it's downhill going from there. He looked perplexed that he kind of chipped it into the water, but take me to that shot.
Starting point is 00:09:28 What options does he have? What do you see from somebody trying to play that shot in contention? I've played the course before. I've been over there and you really need to punt. I don't know if you saw Eric Van Ruin, he punted. He was by that bunker and he just potted it around. He made the save for par, but you really don't have any chance. It's thin over there. You're kind of coming
Starting point is 00:09:48 off a downslope and you're landing it on the downslope. He's got to use the bounce. So like, it's me. That's that's one of those where if you there's not anything underneath and excuse me, it could be it's easy to do what he did. I was a little shocked. He took that direct of a route type deal. That seems like when you hit it to 20 feet out to the right or whatever left and you give yourself a look at par and make bogey at worse and still have a share of the lead. Because that's the one that looks like you can't really get it close, right? So what's the point in trying to get
Starting point is 00:10:21 it to 15 feet on the best route, you know, and bring the water into play when you could chip it to 23 feet and take, take five out of play. Exactly. I think that's one that is only chance at getting it close is hitting the stick. It takes up. I mean, I, these guys are obviously really good, but you could give him five balls. And I bet he probably, he's one of the best for the wedge. And he probably gets one of them inside 10 feet going at it. So situational was a little squirrely there, I guess, going that route, but I mean, it didn't work. I think Justin, as you said earlier, like I think Lowry was chipping the ball so well,
Starting point is 00:11:02 like 10, 12, 13. I think he had the confidence like, dude, I'm just gonna chip this right at it. And it looked like he played the shot. He wanted to play that ball just had zero check on it and hit the down slope and rolled into the water. I, that was shocking though. And I think Shane's whole back nine
Starting point is 00:11:21 was the most shocking in that really some some squirrely shots there, not not only that chip on 14, but you know, drive on 15, even heck going back to 10, hitting it a little right. His ball striking really disappeared on the back nine. I, I was thinking this was a lowery win when everybody was when he was making the turn and, you know, that the tournament was still eight nine holes to go. Yeah, I think it also going back to that 14th hole. It is just a classic P die in terms of like you're going to have to pay this off at some
Starting point is 00:11:55 point. If you want to bail left off the tee, that's fine. Now you're chipping back towards the water and kind of to see somebody, you know, fall into not fall into that trap, but, you know, not take on the risk off the tee and have a much, much riskier second shot. I think it, it makes for exciting professional golf. It's not always the most fun to play. I don't think in Harvard Town gives me the heebie.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Geebies watching it. I don't see, I don't see the shots visually for me. There's a lot of tour courses I'd love to play. And I like to play it someday, but it just looks so difficult. And they make it look very easy every year, but gosh, it just even watching Harold and Shane especially struggle off the tee today, just constantly being behind trees and saying on on Baldish lies, I just shot 86 so easily today. It's it's claustrophobic, truthfully. Like you get out there and you hit a
Starting point is 00:12:41 T ball and you're like, oh, that should be pretty good. And you get up there. And you're like, I kind of got a tree in the way. And I'm in the left center of the fairway. It's not like you're left, right? Like it's, it is a slightly claustrophobic off course. And especially when the wind gets blowing, kind of swirling, like you said, they, they make it look pretty easy. But it doesn't take much to, to be a little off and you see, I mean, a couple guys today,
Starting point is 00:13:05 sharp pretty poor rounds. There was an eight over some four or five, six overs. It doesn't take much to get to there. And you can end up like, be, die. You can end up hitting a pretty decent shot and being a super squirrely lie. And it's a easy bogey. It's, it's sweet. Harbor Towns awesome.
Starting point is 00:13:23 It's a fun. And up. Yeah. And I'll say too, it's, it's for sure claustrophobic. Having played it twice, it's like just a nightmare with how tight it looks. And then the lack of rough, those balls get on the ground and they just run. And they're not going to stop until they get into the pine straw or worse, you know, out of bounds eventually or going into the ponds. It's a man. And I guess that was what was so fun today,
Starting point is 00:13:52 was seeing a bunched up leaderboard with some really big names and some good stories like Varner trying to get his first PGA tour win. Unlike a shop makers course, right? A shot that demands precision and accuracy and it's a great tournament it punches above its weight I go back and forth but like should this be in a different spot I know it's the pros love it it's a great spot postmasters
Starting point is 00:14:19 but I'm really glad they've they've gotten some bigger names there. And it's just a wonderful venue, I think. Really good field this time around. And you know, it, it, something about the way those final few, few holes play and how it, how it cycles watching the earlier groups come through. And, and I know this happens every single week. But like for some reason at Harbor Town, when they put that front right pin on, what is it, 12 or 13, the shorter for 13. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:45 And then just how watching watching guys kind of get at the pin, at the front right pin on 18, seeing several groups come through, like you just are so teed up for what is about to come in the final groups. And I don't know that I think that always works with really good drama coming down the final stretch of this this tournament. We talked about it a few weeks ago, like our favorite tournaments are the ones where 10 to 15 under wins. And it feels like out throwout when it was last year when guys went nutty, but it typically is that 10 to 15 where someone can go shoot an eight
Starting point is 00:15:15 under like Cam Davis did today or you can shoot two, three over. It looked like an idiot on that course. It's it's a fun one to watch you you got Like you said one of the strongest fields. I think it was the second strongest field of a rego season event of the season With yeah that they saw that little note early on in the week. It was like non-players non. Yeah, non Elevated yeah, whatever field Yeah, with the amount of guys that were in the top 10 in the world or whatever, but pretty cool. Just a fun little fun venue because it's tight, it's tight. It's tight. And then all of a sudden you get to 16, 17, 18 and you end up with
Starting point is 00:15:56 the widest fairway to hit on tour. It's kind of cool. Randy, where was your, what would you put your faith in Speed honestly prior to this week? Where were you on the, were you on Speed Island, were you on a boat, a life raft drifting away from it? Where were you honestly?
Starting point is 00:16:17 I'm always wondering around Speed Island. I don't think I'll ever leave. It's my forever home. But certainly coming off a gust of last week, you know, you're not certainly not feeling good. Didn't think, certainly didn't think you'd win this week, right? And yeah, I just go back to what you guys are saying, like, really surprising victory. Like, did not, did not see it coming. Obviously, missed the first couple rounds being over in Scotland, but seen as his play yesterday, kept off by that little put that he missed.
Starting point is 00:16:58 And I don't know, it, it felt a little vintage, though, in the way that I don't know. It felt a little vintage, though, in the way that harkening some of that magic that space seems to tap into with a lot of his wins. I don't know what's to come, but I just really hope he can find something like golf. Golf is so much better when he is contending and he's truly one of the three, four, five best players in the world. And I don't think he's there right now, but I think this is a good sign. It's a it's a it's a weird golf course in a weird week. He was fourth in strokes came off the tee this week, which is always a good sign. I'm not gonna sit here and say it's a you know a bad sign, but I think it's also like.
Starting point is 00:17:44 I don't know if that means a whole lot as we enter the summer bomb sessions, right? And the, uh, the different golf courses that we're going to see here, this, this course is not a, obviously not a typical PGA tour course. And it's not, it's not like he was bombarded all over the yard. He just had an accurate week off the tee and was maybe able to hit some drivers in places. Other guys weren't able to hit drivers. And that's how you would gain on a course like this.
Starting point is 00:18:03 So good sign there. He's 10th in stroke scheme approach to green. That's fantastic that we're looking to hang out around that number. Fifth in stroke schemes around the green. That's a couple of whole outs. You know, a whole lot putt from off the green on Saturday that I saw for an eagle coming down the stretch there on the back nine. And he holds out a bunker shot on two today.
Starting point is 00:18:23 So I don't want to say it's unsustainable. It's just like I see that 60th and Stroke's game putting out of 70 or so guys that made the cut and that you see somebody struggling on short putts like that and doing some funky things and missing as I can recall it at least the third tap in going back to last July, like true tap in like rushing to put it and miss it. And that just concerns me. That was an open blade. Like just kind of, I don't want to say, yep, but it was a weird motion. How did you see anything in that? You were there. This is he dad. He had one at Byron Nelson a couple of weeks ago on the seventh hole. Byron Nelson
Starting point is 00:19:01 that's coming up. Oh, he did. Oh, oh,. Yeah. Valero on seven on the front nine coming in. And it was the same way he three putter from three and a half feet. He went to tap it and miss it. And I'm like, at some point you can, you say, oh, I was just a mental whatever. But it's like, no, there's something going on. The blade is not doesn't look good going through on the short ones. It's a he's not hitting him off the center. You can look and someone retotes, someone rehealed. So there's a can
Starting point is 00:19:30 we just backtrack to remember that he used to be the guy that looked at the whole on short putts. And I don't know when that went away, but that you don't start doing that unless something's going on to begin with. So maybe needs to go back to that. But I feel like I'm surprised I hadn't been talked about more. I don't even know when he went away from that officially. But if we're having issues on shorties, like I agree with you there. He, he should at least try it. I mean, you see what he's trying in the full swing. There's some goofiness going on in terms of feels like, why not look at the whole?
Starting point is 00:19:58 It's, spieth was always so good from 15 to 25 feet. That you kind of forget about the short ones. Like he wasn't always nails from close range. And if they win in, it wasn't the prettiest looking thing. So I think that's always been there. He just hasn't been as good from that 15 to 25 foot range. And then you throw in those short misses and his strokes gain putting go way down because he used to gain so much from that mid range that it covered up a lot of the short stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Justin, let me ask you a question that I've always been curious about and obviously you have a much better perspective on this than I ever would. For somebody like Speed and hypothetically speaking, would you rather be hitting the ball T-degree really, really well and struggling with your putting or kind of vice versa where you feel like, man, I am rolling the rock really well right now, but I don't trust my, don't trust my swing. Like, what's a more comfortable place to work from and to go forward from? I think the the hot putter and short game at least gives you confidence that you can shoot a low round even if you don't hit it great. The other way around feels like you're never going to get
Starting point is 00:21:16 lower than two or three under. You can you it feels that there's so much pressure to hit the parfives into to hit it close when you got a wedge. And the other way around, if you're, it's funny because I mean, you see it, it very rarely do both of them match up, but you see the guys that are putting and chipping well and they're having a blast out there, even if they're not hitting it because it doesn't feel like they're going to make a bogey. And then you, then you got the guys that are hitting it great. And you see, Ram, a few weeks ago, just looks so frustrated. Yeah, because it doesn't look like you can throw it in the ocean. And that is more mentally, mentally taxing than having the hot putter and not knowing where it's
Starting point is 00:21:56 going off the tee. It is it. I don't know if hard is even the right word. You know, somebody that doesn't practice, I don't have a good understanding. But is it harder to correct a squirrelly putter than like a full swing? Like, what is that? I think the putters just more. I think the putters just more mental than the full swing. The full swing, you can key in on a, it seems to me that you can key in on a field or a technique that you're working on and it can click a lot faster than you can with your putting because you're you got a factor in speed, you got a factor in your read, you're reading them right and your speed stinks, you're not going to make it and if your
Starting point is 00:22:35 vice versa, you're not going to make it. So there's just a lot more mentally, mentally, mental challenges, I guess guess with putting to try to figure out then there is with a full swing. You can hit it to 10 feet or you can hit it to 20 feet and it's not that big of a difference in terms of full swing, but you start missing your five, six footers and you're over the ball trying to make adjustments. That's when it's just when you don't make confidence strokes and very rarely do you see guys make puts when they're making tentative strokes. I'm so uncomfortable just listening to all of that.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Like thinking about the process of when you're going through when you're not putting well of like, okay, well, do I try to pull this a little bit? And do I try to pull the last three? Maybe I'll shove this one a little bit. I aim left and then shove it. Like did I hit a push cut, but off the tee or fairway, you're just like, yeah, I'll just hit it a little
Starting point is 00:23:25 harder, hit it a little softer and hope that it goes all right. Yeah, the putter is, and it's back to the speed thing. It's unnerving to watch when he, I turn it on, I'm watching him on nine, and I'm not, I don't think he's going to make it. And immediately he blamed something. It's like, oh, it went straight left off that. I'm like, did it that? Oh, like bro.
Starting point is 00:23:48 It did, it may not have hit it very solid. So there's just a lot, a lot that goes in. It, I think it is worth pointing out. I mean, the whole out eagle on two, but then a really good long iron or hybrid it was in playing through. I think I couldn't see what it was into, into five and then rolls in that eagle putt. And then on not a birdie's eight like rolls in a nice
Starting point is 00:24:08 birdie on eight and he was vibing. He gets up to nine, smashes one and club twirls it and then went up against the lip. Like that was super unlucky. And I know you're not supposed to have a Randy loved it. Probably you're not supposed to have a great line. The bunker blah blah blah. But he hit the shot he was trying to. And then plays out towards the grandstands to get the free drop, which what do we think about that? A lot of people upset about him taking advantage of the rules of golf. I loved it. Yeah. Why would you not do that?
Starting point is 00:24:34 Shipping into there. Try to bounce it off. I'm just saying it might not have been very gentlemanly. He got, but he got boned off the tee. I mean, he has three point. Yeah. Like that's a, and you see the other guys that are in that bunker. And it's not a overly difficult bunker shot. If it's sitting, if you can stand in there.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Yeah. And he that was going to be birdie. I have a feeling. But if you don't think that's very classy, Randy, you got to say it was extremely classy for him to wait for the camera to get there and then tell all the juniors like, I'll stay right here. I'll be right back. And then I promise I'll sign for all of you. And after winning, I could almost guarantee that probably didn't happen because he's got to go to media. You know what, though? I couldn't help but think like what a perfect metaphor for Easter Sunday.
Starting point is 00:25:13 You know, that's kind of the spirit of the Christian religion right there. Promiseing you'll be back, but who knows when? Randy, out of your hurt this yet, but he won on Easter last year. He won on Easter this year. Guess what? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. T-Rome 67 said, spieths baby and concussion protocol. Sarah goes, why is she running out there with the baby?
Starting point is 00:25:49 Headbobbing. I said, Sarah, you'd probably be doing the same thing. Let's be honest, you're probably not thinking about that, but that was pretty funny. That we had quite a laugh on that with growl or didn't even wears bib for the playoff. He must have taken it off. I guarantee you took it off when they were done, never thought that they would be in a playoff and misplaced it or never just forgot where he put it or didn't take it. You got to turn him in at the end.
Starting point is 00:26:11 So he turns him in to Caddy headquarters, whatever, and they take him, and they're going to go wash him whatever. And I guarantee you the name had been ripped off. He didn't even think about it, and they're like, oh, you're in a playoff. The Sarahs said the same thing. Why is he not wearing a bib?
Starting point is 00:26:24 And I was like, maybe they don't have to with the playoff. And they can't at least has it on them. Like, I don't know. I really don't know. I hope he gets fine for that. I hope I know you're listening to this, Michael. Real quick, I'm still not off the speed thing and off the RBC just yet.
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Starting point is 00:27:50 I don't think this show has changed way too much. I'm actually getting uncomfortable. I don't think that the speed is even comfortable with this one. I don't think he's sitting in wherever he's at right now doing media going, man, I'm back. I think he's thinking, holy cow, how did I show that I wouldn't this? That I won with B minus. Yeah. And I think even in his little interview with Amanda there, he was almost in tears talking
Starting point is 00:28:14 about how tore up he was last week, favorite week of the year, favorite course of the year and miss the cut. Like he was, he was tore up and I don't know if this, it obviously is going to make him excited for what's to come, but I don't think he's riding high of confidence with his golf game at the moment. I think he's there's a sign of life. There's a yeah, there's definitely a sign of life that the ball striking there. He was hitting different shots. He was hitting fades. He was hitting draws. He was working it. But there's there's too many question marks with the putter to win at a major championship venue. Does it change the overrunner of 10 and a half majors for him, Randy?
Starting point is 00:28:51 No, well, I think we might have to add a half. I think we're up to a solid 11. I think he goes, I mean, he's going to get to at least the rest of this year. He's for sure winning, saying Andrews, if the wind blows even a little bit, he's winning. That's the one, that's the one I could see him contending at the others. I don't know. That makes a lot of sense. I mean, it was a shot out of the playoff. Obviously in 2015. And, uh, well, we'll talk a baby a little bit about saying Andrews and how it'll play for for this year after
Starting point is 00:29:18 getting to go around it a couple of times this past week because I have some, I have some thoughts. It's interesting. Anything else from RBC week, you know, how well you know Harold decently well from living here in Jackson, but he lived in Jacksonville for a while. Doesn't anymore. But it seems like it's a full experience. Watching him what he gets into contention. You, you truly don't know what's going to come. This felt like his best effort yet. It was he played, he played really solid. And he, he kind of got raw end of it there on 15, hitting nice shot into the par 5 and barely kind of being on the right side of the bunker with the lip behind it. Tough spot if that's sitting in the middle of the bunker, he gets it down there to inside
Starting point is 00:29:54 10 feet every time. It feels like one of these times he's going to seize that moment on a Sunday and shoot 4-5 under and shoot four or five under. And it just stall today, man. That he, I mean, he part every hole in the back nine. It just never, he did. I don't know. He's such a competitor. You, you think that it's going to happen where he's going to get this momentum. And it's going to be three, four birdies in a row. And he's just going to steamroll. And it just, it just hasn't happened yet. But he's knocking on the door. It's going to happen. He's, he's just too. He's just too good of a ball striker and has too good of an attitude at Chap Todd said, would you rather have your follow through look like webs or hv3 is the rest of your life?
Starting point is 00:30:32 I still don't physically know how hv3 does it with his feet. It doesn't make any sense. I think both feet are on the ground the entire time. And all of a sudden it was like, you know, when you're a kid and you're like, hey, no, flick your right foot up when you're done. And the kid hits the ball two seconds later, just flings his right foot up. And that's what it looks like. Harold does every time. It looks like every shot's from a downhill line. And he's kind of like fall. It's got to just got to stay
Starting point is 00:30:54 on top of it for a long time. Yeah. I definitely take Harold over Web. Web looks like spaghetti noodles flinging around. What about what about Sheffler on the 15th at Augusta? I was looking back through through some old tweets and I screen shot at the exact same image from 2021 when he did it. The same exact thing that's his shot on on 13th Augusta's the get to club back to the ground on the follow through somehow. I am not quite ready. I never envisioned Sep Strocca. Man, being on the run that he's on one at Honda, top 10 at the players, just made the cut at Augusta,
Starting point is 00:31:36 tied for third this week. Had no idea. He had this in him. He's up to 53rd in the world. And just came to, yeah, I mean, got that birdie putty made on 17. I think it's going in the Cal Bogey sound if it doesn't hit the hole. And white paint marks on his ball. And then, uh, I think it's going to fix the cup. Just a sloppy, sloppy second into 18 and makes his bogey, but he looked like he had a great chance. I already talked about Lowry. I disappointed in his play. And then, you know, Kutcher just kind of he'll always be there at Hilton head. He'll he'll be, you know, in contention playing well for the next 15 years, probably. You know what the highlight them showing, coach are holding out on 18 and 2014. You know what that reminded me of
Starting point is 00:32:29 Randy? That was, that was our original podcast week, eight year anniversary. This way, RBC heritage was our very first podcast in 2014. We argued about culture for like an hour and a half. Tron just ate tostitos directly into the, the one microphone that we all shared. And that he went out and won it. I also forgot about Shaka already. He's up to 14th in the Fed X cup coming off a win. I know we don't actually care about the Fed X cup, but it does signify that you've been playing. He's been playing some extremely good golf. I think you see that
Starting point is 00:33:02 though real quick, but just some some of the young guys that finally break through and then they're like, huh, I can do this. And you saw Keith Mitchell when he went on to, he went on a little tear there, got into the match play and then steam rolled into some really nice finishes. But it's, I think that that question mark for the young guys or for the guys that just get out there is, can I do it? Can I do it? And then once they do it, they're like, Oh, I'll just keep doing it.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Another one thing you're seeing that Cameron Young, this, this, this is a surprise to me on this golf course. He's one of the longer hitters on tour as it is. But he finished T3 as well. One shot out of the plough. Huge, almost a 10 way plough in this tournament, by the way, if you look at the group at T3, but he's up to 17th as well in the FedEx cup and played some some very, very, very strong golf. Um, I did. No, we didn't do a FredEx cup this year. He would have been a very interesting. I did the one right at the beginning with you guys and like talked about some of the guys.
Starting point is 00:33:59 And I feel like we talked about different young and he would, I was like, this guy is impressive. Um, just some of the stories from last year that the guys are talking about that. He has a different gear than most. And like you said, this is an impressive finish. The first round going out in 8 under and best round by a couple that day was pretty impressive.
Starting point is 00:34:20 And the postman, by far is best finish of of the season lots of lots of miss cuts so good to see him have a great weekend and snag a tie for third. Guess who else was back this week? A one Morgan Hoffman making his first PGA start in I think four years something like that. There's a big golf digest article that came out about him living down in Costa Rica and living a very very very interesting life with if you're unfamiliar with the story you can check out that article. We also did a podcast with them two or three years ago. I forget what it was and he talked about you know the onus that he had I believe I'll get it wrong now that I don't
Starting point is 00:35:00 have the notes in front of it. It was a muscular dystrophy of some kind. Going to Nepal, living off just 800 grapes a day for like consecutive months and all of the crazy holistic treatment that he has gone through and how he's got his health back and he's got three starts to use and he used one of them here this week. He missed the cut by one. Unfortunately, he spent the week prepping at Ohoopi the last week before. He had walked a lot of golf. You know, he did 18 to 27 holes a day at O'Hoopie, which I don't know if O'Hoopie is the best prep for for Harbour Town, but that's interesting,
Starting point is 00:35:34 but it's good. It was very interesting and good to see him back. And that was a story that a lot of people were following and a lot of people were rooting for him this past week. So swing went good. I think it's tough with only a couple starts, but it was nice to see him out there. The story that article was wild. Kudos to him for figuring it out and for it, seeming to be working in his health coming back. And what you did also say this week, he did say,
Starting point is 00:36:02 and I don't know what parts, which I'm curious about. He said it was embellished a little bit for entertainment purposes. And I don't know what that might be. It is a wild wild story. I'm kind of viewing it through like, okay, well, what's the, what's the real story here? Because we interviewed him and it, it wasn't that extreme in terms of drinking his own urine and things like that.
Starting point is 00:36:20 But he said he garbled it to, and his gums came back after years of chewing tobacco. And that just, that one doesn't settle well with it. It's not something I could, I see myself gargling just for, we have a good, gum, a good pouch of misery. Addition. I just want to also clarify, none of this is medical advice. We are, please contact your medical professional for anything as it does relate to you. But I'll be rooting for him, man.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I mean, he's very interesting to do. That was an incredible interview we did with him a few years ago. Talked to all about flying to events and how he used to just like jump on the plane and like go down to Key West for the night and get key line pie and fly back and things like that. He's an interesting cat. So I'll be curious to see what's in the fold for him. Tom Kronin, Terp, 88, got a lot of questions
Starting point is 00:37:10 about these similar questions this week. Which RBC add is the worst? And why is it both of them? They somehow took their horrible DJ add and made it worse. Are they trolling us? The left-handed full swing, where the ball goes in, every time I see it I'm like who who okay somebody got a raise and a call back to make the sequel I
Starting point is 00:37:32 mean it's it's it's offensive we're gonna see it a million more times and I feel like we should we should speak in instead of ignoring it we should speak about it until that thing is no longer in existence because you know we're gonna see it every week now. So I got a message asking me, perhaps RBC was intentionally making very bad commercials in order to drum up publicity, which is interesting. It's certainly a strategy.
Starting point is 00:37:57 All press is good press, so they claim. Yeah, EY Ethan 91 says, how much has Big Randy's time shared Hilton head increase in value with speech victory. Oh, that's a great question. I obviously a little too soon to definitively answer that, but we love big time winners in the in the spice bush ownership pool. I will say my parents are down there. They had a lovely time. One of my dad's buddies played in the program with Tommy Ladd and oh god who else did he play with? Another NOU friendly and my dad was repping NOU all over the course. So great, great times down on the island from what I understand. And I will say a little bittersweet for the bumper music in and out of commercial.
Starting point is 00:38:45 They're playing good friend Ben Reckter's new song, live in my best life, but they're bumping my guy Greg Russell, who's an institution on Hill. And so bittersweet, I alerted Ben that that was the case. He didn't seem to feel too bad. Imagine not Fred triples. Once you know, is the international presence cup team, the favorite right now. Fred, I'm just going to assume this is trolling because I don't know if you've been watching with but going on.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I know the international presence cup team group has has has a very interesting good start to the year. But you're going up against the behemoth and the likes of which I don't know. I don't know if the world of golf is totally ready for that month. At that this UST about at Kweil is going to, going to bring the hurt. Yeah, I can't see it ending very well for, for the international. And they got some, they got some nice players, but they got a good, like top eight or nine. I mean, it's, that's super interesting. But yeah, it's, it's, it's a, some power coming. Tiger and Phil have officially entered the US open. Does this get it?
Starting point is 00:39:45 Does this get you guys excited at all? Either one big. Yeah, is that just paperwork like they can't play unless they do register, but it certainly doesn't mean they're definitely playing. I don't know. There was a deadline today. That's how Tiger started with Augusta though, who's listed among people playing. And we were kind of like, oh, yeah, he's like that. So he's not withdrawn and he played. So I think Tiger plays. I just almost don't want to see it. I know. It was not in tears, but you watch him after he finished last week.
Starting point is 00:40:16 You talked about it, but he's hugging his family and he can barely, barely half step it up to him. I'm like, just, just don't, you don't have to be doing this. No, it's incredible that you have been able to do this and beat that many guys that thank you to Randy for reading off the names. Of course, on Thursday last week's show, but yeah, we, it's a different animal to do that at Southern Hills and to do that at Brookline. Then, then Augusta, there's going to be rough there. It's a totally different walk. It's a different skill set test. And I just don't think he's crafted.
Starting point is 00:40:51 I mean, I can barely walk. So it's not a bold thing to say. I don't think he's crafted very well to be handling all of that. A golf course with barely any rough, like Augusta, and one that he knows and can play with his eyes closed is a different animal. Now, does the old course make a lot of sense? Of course it does. He said he's playing it. And I kind of hope we don't see him back until then because again, after seeing it this time around, it makes all the sense in the world for him to try to play there.
Starting point is 00:41:15 It's an easiest possible walk. I know there's some there's hills and all that kind of stuff, but it's nothing like Augusta and it's going to be a approach game contest and that is exactly where he should be trying to compete. I think the more interesting question is Mikkelsen and the PGA championship next month and could he possibly skip that being the defending champion. I mean, that would be huge in my eyes. Why do you think he skipped the masters? I mean, maybe it's obvious, but what is your, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:41:50 Why do you think he skipped the masters? I, in my personal opinion, I think the masters would have allowed him to play. Had he wanted to play, I think when he went away from golf, he probably hasn't been like wanting to practice or grind. And I'm sure it just was like, I don't want to go into the masters not having played or practiced. I don't want to with everything going on. I don't want to go there play poorly, miss the cut and be a distraction and kind of compound. What's he doing? Like does anybody know what he's doing?
Starting point is 00:42:26 But I was gonna say, but I have no idea. I just... I'd love to know. I'd love to know what a day in life of Phil looks like right now. I mean, just God, if he doesn't play as the defending champion after the historic win last year, like, what a sad 12 months.
Starting point is 00:42:43 It's something a big bummer. It'll be going on. If he, I think if he doesn't play, I think we said, I didn't think we'd see him until the PGA. I didn't think he'd play Augusta, whether he has a suspension or not. I think all that's kind of still up in the air. I wouldn't be shocked if there was one. For him not to play the PGA seems super off brand.
Starting point is 00:43:05 If he's going to come back, like the way he's handled everything, pre all this, how he keeps climbing, he's the PGA champion. Like he he wants to be there. And I think if he's allowed to play, he'll, he'll play. Yeah. He might, he might honestly, I mean, he's kind of like a disgrace politician right now. Like you might be doing like focus groups and just trying to get a feel for
Starting point is 00:43:27 when this public perception is going to flip a little bit and when he can kind of reenter the golfing world. I it's so is it getting better? So self-inflicted to week after week or is it getting good? Like is it going to be attention going to be more and more the more time that goes by? No, I think you have to give it time to then be able to come back. I mean, I think that's the way any good come back happens, right? It's easy to forget about him, though.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Like, truthfully, I have spent time where his name didn't even enter my mind, which hadn't happened for a while. Like, he was in the news often and playing and whatnot. And then you go to Augusta and things start happening. You're watching Tiger. You don't even think about Phil. I didn't think about Phil not being there. And then this week didn't think about it one time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:23 I think the one key thing missing with Phil thus far, you think back to the notorious Tiger Press conference in front of the blue curtain. But I do think he, at some point, if he does want people to come back and really flip the narrative, like he's going to have to be very humble and he's going to have to own a lot of what he's done. And I gotta just, it's really hard to imagine him doing that.
Starting point is 00:44:53 So I don't know where this goes. It's, like I said, it kind of sucks as a fan of his, but also really interesting just as a outside observer. But can I also just note that the last we heard from him, it was not full of remorse. It was full of like, I think live golf is more in play than anything else right now for him. I mean, he apologized to the live golf visionaries
Starting point is 00:45:18 and whatever that statement was he made before stepping away. It was not, you know, I've made mistakes and I should not have gotten involved with them. And I wonder as time goes on, if he's mending the fences, you know, mending that side of the fence more so than the other side of the fence. And if that's a reason for the silence and we'll we see him in June at the Centurion Club for the first time when we do see him again. I mean, you can't that would be bonkers. I mean, I could see that more though, then, then playing the majors, I could see him just, I don't
Starting point is 00:45:53 know, I could see him jumping ship and just going full on in and right off into the sunset, count his money and just say, you know what? This is how this is how my career is going to end. I'm not going to try to save face and play a few champions to events and whatnot. I'm done with the PGA tour. I'm just going to go make my millions and be done. He truly, truly, truly in my opinion would absolutely need the money because we're talking about almost a Rubicon of sorts where, Hey, man, you got to think about what you want your legacy to be at this point. And I almost think that's the crossroads we're getting to with him. Do you want to be the jack or Arnie of this next generation, right? Like you and Tiger,
Starting point is 00:46:37 you're going to be hitting ceremonial t-shots at the masters for as long as you can. And if he just goes the Saudi route, I think that's going to tarnish his legacy. I really do. He's just been so he's been his entire career as number two. Literally, he's been in the shadows of Tiger and everyone else, his entire career. He's been a number two. He's been he's second, I heard the stat this week, you know, Jack stat of set runners up in majors, who's number two on that list? Michael sent. Yeah. Like Michael sends just number two on every single list. And maybe this is his way of saying, you know what? I'm tired of being number two. I'm just gonna, I'm going, I'm just gonna go do it. And I'm gonna go get, get what I wanted. I've
Starting point is 00:47:24 wanted my whole life. And if he needed the money, bad enough to have done on this flirting, losing all of the endorsements is only going to have made him more desperate. Like again, we've gone back to he's either broke and needs money or he's obnoxiously greedy. And he's lost a lot of money since this has happened. And we were talking, I mean, potentially tens of millions of dollars, depending on how the details of those contracts work out. Like I know a place where he can go get tens of millions of dollars, depending on how the details of those contracts work out. Like, I know a place where you can go get tens of millions of dollars
Starting point is 00:47:47 if he goes and leaves and he may have helped this league draft up their bylaws. So I don't know, it feels like it almost quieted down on that front since he released that statement. But it's like, dude, if you read that statement, it's kind of like, yeah, this is where I'm going. I'm sorry, I said the bad things about them. Like, that's where that's where my real apology lies. So I swear these guys, it just works out this way.
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Starting point is 00:49:00 junior golf. So get on that. Speaking of live golf, some news this week that I'll gladly share, but I just don't know how much I really have to add on top of this because I'm kind of, I'm fatigued by it all in terms of, you know, so and so says this, but so and so replies this, but so and so it hasn't really made a statement here, but there's a report from the telegraph
Starting point is 00:49:23 that came out earlier this week saying live golf is set to announce five names to be playing their events. I did not subscribe to telegraphs. I did not read the article, but allegedly the names within that are Bubba, Kevin Na, Jason Cocrack, Lee Westwood and Ian Polter, all names that were long rumored to have been involved in this thing. Then a couple days later, or shortly after that, Bubba tweets out his schedule, unprompted, seemingly unprompted. Of here are the events I'm planning to play for the rest of this year.
Starting point is 00:49:51 And it included two events opposite the live golf events. So that's kind of where I'm at with like, okay, well, they're going to announce some names, but I just can never believe anything. They say because that's pretty much how this whole thing is operated. But it was supposed to be, I feel like it was supposed to be a big splash this week and it almost kind of fell on that on deaf ears. I was waiting, I was waiting, I was hoping that, you know, Monday after the Masters, we were going to get fireworks. Get it. And it was a little tidbit and then no one even said,
Starting point is 00:50:23 yeah, these are confirmed. Guys are still playing in the PGA Tour event this week. Kevin, I was there. You're just, I'm personally waiting for that, for that little bomb to drop of, this is who's going to play. This is our first event and this is our field. One guy. We need one guy. That's going to be the field.
Starting point is 00:50:41 We need one guy. We need one name who's going to play in this thing that's coming in less than two months. And where are we going to watch it? Where is it going to be? Two months away, $25 million tournament. Those are just details. Those are details. Minor details.
Starting point is 00:50:56 I don't know. Clearly, something's going to happen, but it doesn't feel like it's going to be. Clearly. It's going to be anything. They're counting on this event going off. They're going to, you know, it's going to be the Kevin Nas that go do it. And they are hoping that everyone else is just kind of keeping a, you know, a side eye look at it to say, let's see how this goes. And when those cash, those checks get cashed, they're hoping that people are like, now
Starting point is 00:51:23 ready to make the leap. And the couple of other things came out this week, Norman an interview with SI.com, slash morning read, so that for those that don't want to turn pro or have college, so basically, Liv Golf is working with Amateur golfers to fill the fields. They're working with name, image, and likeness deals
Starting point is 00:51:42 that are now prevalent in college sports. I don't really think I fully understand this one. The amateurs don't have access to the funds that are being shared out there, but they can help them land sponsorship deals by playing in the league. Unless there's something where they want these amateurs to play and say, hey, you wear a golf Saudi logos in our jersey for the week. And here's a million dollars. And we can write it off as a name, image and likeness instead of, you know, you're playing for a million dollars. We'll just give you the money to come play to have your
Starting point is 00:52:16 name in it and fill the field. I don't know. Does that come with a contract to once you turn pro? This is where you're playing. Like is that their way of building a farm system? I don't think with name image and name, image and likeness, you can do both in terms of, it is strictly amateur stuff in your professional life has no bearing on what that NIL deal is. For my, for my limit understanding, but I don't think you could legally,
Starting point is 00:52:44 I don't think they could say, hey, come do this. And we, we own you. Once you, you come out, I don't think they can legally like chop people's heads off either. But I, I don't, so I don't really know how much the rules really apply to the, you know, that's where I'm just like, what's for these kids? Do these kids know what they're signing up for is like what I'm, what I'm getting at here? Do you get any offers yet, Randy? I have it, but you know, I thought it's all your, you're, you're, you're in the amateur circuits. I, if an invitation comes to the kill house, God, that would be a story. Yeah, what do you do?
Starting point is 00:53:19 What if it's with any? I'm not going to be listening. Listen, yeah, any phone calls I take, it's only for leverage. Okay. It's only for leverage to get into, to, you know, kind of get my way. And to change, we have one opportunity here to change the way Amber golf is played in this country for, for ever. And I, I know that they are some scary mother frockers, but it will be foolish not to,
Starting point is 00:53:39 not to take this opportunity. You are the white night. And most importantly, you guys know what I'm all about, and that's to grow the game, and that's all we care about here. And I've been very consistent on that across all levels that we want to grow the game, and I'm not going to comment on the politics of the situation, but I'm a podcast host. I couldn't do that. So I think if they had a net division, I would give it heavy consideration, but I think I would be out because of the growth of the game stuff As an ardent shrink the game
Starting point is 00:54:11 supporter That's just a bridge too far I also don't know if this is a change because the whole thing seems very permeable as it is But Normans also from that SI dot com article in Norman's dress that no one will be joining live golf as a member of a league That was the original plan which has been delayed We'll be doing it like this for the next two years We have eight invitational series events this year 10 next year and we will do Thuro testing of how everything works
Starting point is 00:54:36 We will still do team events and then the league will be up and running in 2024 We're just giving them an opportunity to go play one time for $25 million or seven times for $25 million with the ability to qualify for the team championship. So I don't know if they're panicking at all over not being able to actually formulate the league and just are going to a straight formula of like, you know, we're just going to host these tournaments and just pay out whoever plays it. If they're worried about it, falling, failing so spectacularly that, you know, in this team league format or if that changes things legally in terms of challenges of the PJ Taurus policy of if you go play in this, you will be banned. I don't know, but it seems kind of odd to me that two months out that they're trying
Starting point is 00:55:15 to change the format of this thing, but yet that's very consistent with how things have gone. It just feels like for this to really succeed, they need top guys to play. And they clearly weren't going to get them early. So they're saying, oh, let's just push it back a little bit and maybe we can draw them out after this is somewhat successful for two years and they'll say, okay, now I've played two more years on the PGA tour.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Now I'll go do this, but I just, I just, I just don't see it being successful in no one wants on what what you consider successful because I of course like financially and ratings wise and organization wise is it like going to be a disaster in the short term? Yes, is it going to create problems for the PGA tour? I believe so. Yeah, I think it I think that money getting passed out is gonna be pretty damn tempting and Again, I can't believe this is actually coming to fruition. I think the original joke we made about this was like Well shit look at the size of Jason co-cracks yacht like I want to yacht that big and like he's literally one of the first five names listed here Like that's pretty incredible if you go back to list of this for like a year ago, but like I don't know I think some,
Starting point is 00:56:25 some, I think they're going to do a decent job or maybe plan on doing a decent job of recruiting up and coming players over these next two years. Uh, so that in 2024, it looks a lot different than that first event. Well, I'm sure, but man, I don't know. I don't know how it's going to play out, but I feel like it's going to be bad for the golf world. I think it's going to be a fractured golf world in some kind. And that's not going to be bad for the golf world. I think it's going to be a fractured golf world in some kind, and that's not going to be
Starting point is 00:56:45 good for anyone. Yeah. Any thoughts to add, Big? No. I can't do another hour-long Saturdays, I could. That's all I got. I don't want it. It's quite enough.
Starting point is 00:56:59 I just want one guy to say, I'm all the way in, I'm going to be doing it. And then we can go more. And I'll say Westwood, I'm fine, whatever. If that's the case, Polter bothers me because I'm assuming this ends any opportunity to be a captain of any kind or assistant captain. And I just need, I needed him there for these next six to eight years of rider cups, where I think the US is going to really lay the hammer down. I needed we need we owe him a lot of of payback and revenge. And if he's not even there for it, then I feel like it's just going to hurt it's going to it's really going to dig
Starting point is 00:57:37 it. We're going to miss something. I'm going to need him there to see it firsthand. So big what happened on the LPGA tour this week. It sounded like well, there was a Wednesday to Saturday event. They were out in Hawaii, new course this year, very transparently speaking with our Scotland trip and Saturday being our big travel day did not have a chance to watch a lot of the golf watch a bit of the final round last night when I got back to Denver before I fell asleep for like 59 hours. But he owed you Kim one.
Starting point is 00:58:13 She played really well. Really solid two shot victory over Hanaka Shabuno. Conditions like conditions last night. Candidities were tough. I know they got some wind, especially first, second day. I think the greens at this course were very firm. So I wish I had a lot more insight to offer, but didn't get a lot a chance to watch a lot of it. So they're back states side this week, couple events in LA.
Starting point is 00:58:41 They're actually at Willshire Country Club this weekend in Los Angeles, which is an awesome course. So definitely going to watch a lot this weekend and then a new event up in Palos Verde's or wherever that is in relation to Los Angeles. And then a really good event, the founders cup back out in New Jersey. I'm a little disappointed. They moved it from mountain ridge. It's going to be an upper Montclair country club, but yeah, be a nice, nice few weeks here on the LPGA. I'm sorry, that's about all I got. Just did not with with our schedule did not have a chance to watch hardly any of it. I will say from the, I watched some of the final round last night and watching, watching the women play in like umbrella's out and 35 nine hour
Starting point is 00:59:25 wind gusts was was fascinating. I feel like they I always feel like they're playing in a dome like for some reason I was feel like LPGA conditions are quite easy and this was just a totally different style of play at different levels of comfort with each shot watching like true three shot par five's and different flights in under the wind and just dealing with the adversity that came from like aiming totally away from holes downwind par three's having to just like all right we'll hit to the back French here and chip back up at it and set it like a dart fest it was it was a grind out there I mean it was it was the kind of wins that like if if we're playing and I'm like dude if I break 84 today I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:59:58 feel really good about it and there was some really good fun around scores. Yojukim is a killer she has been for quite some time, but I will say, and not because she Buno, that is my girl. I absolutely adore watching her play golf. The smiling Cinderella, she is just always so joyous. She wears every emotion on her sleeve. She makes an eight-foot par putt and she's just smiling at the camera. She's a joy to cheer for. She got to run her up finish this week. Did you happen to see they slow-mode her swing? runner up finish this week. Did you happen to see they slow mode her swing? She's made some changes in her setup.
Starting point is 01:00:27 And so the swing looks a bit different, but what I just could not unsee was when she's over the ball, she like locks her elbows and they almost get like her. So her like elbows are almost open and very close together. I've never seen that like setup out of male female. It was it was fascinating. I'm gonna try to help you plot that. You were a swing expert. What would that what would that do? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. You cannot see. He's very confused. Look on his face. I don't I don't know that one. I haven't seen that one. I will say. Sorry. If you're
Starting point is 01:01:01 if you're looking at her, her arms are such that you can see all of the inner elbows, like the creases of the elbows. I will say back in early college, I did something very similar because I wanted to try to get my right elbow to fold. And so my swing coach had me open my arm, open my hand completely, and then keep the forearm that way and just turn my hand and grip the club. So it was already set kind of open instead of gripping it with the kind of elbow. Formed.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Yeah, because I would get this way. So I go this here and I'd grip the club and then my elbow would fold going back. So maybe she needs the left one to fold on the way through to. I don't know. I didn't see it, but I'm intrigued and I'd like to know more. Yeah, I obviously not a swing expert, but just looked very different from anything I've seen. I will also note Ataia Titicum finished another T6 finish. She is she is coming. She is she's already won this year on tour and she is making a run at this thing. I'd also like to correct a previous
Starting point is 01:02:02 statement I made, which I said, Speed definitely didn't go back and sign. Images are now floating of him in the tartan jacket, going back and signing for all those kids that he probably made way. He made him wait for three days. Their return is coming. You just have to wait. Yeah, just be patient.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Yeah, solid one other person just to shout out. Ryan O'Toole, 35 years old, is having a sneaky, a very good year this year. She tied for six this week, has four of her six starts this year. She's placed 13th or better. Just wanted to shout her out. She's, just somebody I noticed,
Starting point is 01:02:39 oh, she's playing well this week. Oh, she's playing well this week. So I don't know what it will lead to, but somebody to keep an eye on. Great run from beginning of June, She's playing well this week. Oh, she's playing well this week. So I don't know what it will lead to, but Somebody to keep an eye on great run from beginning of June through the first week in August. Obviously Honestly for the for the women. They're going to pine needles for the US women's open congressional for the KPMG women's PGA And your field for the women's British open for the very first time. So There's going to be some some fantastic women's golf to watch this summer Well, I want, I want to talk a little skull in here, but Huber, you made your announcing debut,
Starting point is 01:03:08 your corn fairy announcing debut this past week. Tell us how that went. Got the call. Uh, first, uh, first live stream, uh, for, for me, obviously, but just like podcasting right? Yeah, very, very similar. And just, just got to fill the air the entire time. No, it was, it was incredible. Honestly, I, what my mind thought was going to happen
Starting point is 01:03:32 was not even close to reality. So I pictured a couple of us in there. You know, we're just talking back and forth, watching the camera, chatting golf. And there's our screen in front of us with the camera that people can see. We have another view next to it of what's coming. You have the four cameras that are on the ground. We're working with a two-second delay with Gary Christian on the ground who's incredible. Brian Ketrick's hosting. And it was like, it worked so well.
Starting point is 01:04:00 And I'm over there. I'm like, well, when do I talk? I don't know when to talk. I don't know what to say, when to say, but it was, they made it look easy and it was, it was a lot of fun. And it was awesome shout out Tyson Alexander, Jacksonville guy, first person to ever successfully defend on the corn fairy tour, no one has ever done it in the 30 year history. So pretty cool. I got to watch him play to ton of golf with him. And he was nails down the stretch. He did miss a shorty on 17 for birdie, but was able to make birdie on 18 and went by a couple. But really fun, really fun just being, to be able to call golf, I watch golf
Starting point is 01:04:39 and you watch the coverage and you think that it's, and I think that it is. I'm not gonna speak for everyone, but I thought it was, you know, a couple of people here talking, talking back and forth, but there are so many things going on. You got producer in the air saying, Hey, we're cutting to, cutting a commercial in 10. We got a, what we're going to do a swing analysis all this while you're
Starting point is 01:04:59 trying to talk golf and when I'm the people on TV, just do it. Flawlessly, I'm trying to listen. I'm trying to talk to get a little nugget in. I'm starting to, I would do it. Flawlessly, I'm trying to listen, I'm trying to talk, get a little nugget in, I'm starting to, I would start telling a little story or something that I knew about Tyson and then they're saying, all right, you got 10 seconds left to commercial
Starting point is 01:05:14 and I'm kind of freaking out. I'm just, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, can I finish this? But no, it was, there's a lot of fun. I would do it again if they asked. It's just neat to see that side of it because from a fan viewer standpoint, I had no idea what went into it. I went into the PGA tour trucks
Starting point is 01:05:34 and we had four cameras on the ground. And with four cameras, you can comfortably cover one group. I think they say three, you can get one group and that's a two-some. The PGA tour has cameras. I think literally a hundred. I walked in the different trailers and you can get one group and that's a two sum. The PGA tour has cameras. I think literally a hundred. I walked in the different trailers and you can see you got people clipping
Starting point is 01:05:49 graphics and immediately grab and replays all that all that's going on while you're trying to dissect a shot or set up the shot and it's it's a well oiled machine and honestly Brian K. Trick was he made it. It's like doing a podcast with you where your voice is great. You roll through all these ads or whatever they are and it seems effortless and he'd be sitting there having a conversation with me and they're like, all right, you're live in 10 and immediately switches it on and goes and we're back. It's the corn fairy tour championship, Maritex Bank and Arlington, and throwing some little random Arlington tidbit, and just adlibbing, he's a professional.
Starting point is 01:06:31 That's a gift that people have, like Trico and Hicks and Nance to just like, I can just show me anything, Terri Gannon, show me anything, and I'll talk about it, and I get nervous, like talking in front of anyone, and it's a totally different skill and muscle to fly. It was. It was weird just in not having to talk and fill the air was something that felt so uncomfortable while doing it. But on TV, if you watch it, there's a ton of silence where they're watching the ball watching the guy set up.
Starting point is 01:06:59 And there no one's talking, but you don't realize it because you hear the birds or you hear the wind or you hear whatever. You're in that little booth and it's silent and I would just kept looking around and like, do now? Is this when I go? I don't know what to do, but it was a really cool opportunity, thankful to get that opportunity and if I get a dude again, I would do it. I think I would be a little more comfortable next time using Gary on the ground. He's, I didn't know when to say, say something, be like, Oh, Gary, that one looks like it's head and right. They're going to find the bunker and Gary's walking behind the bushes or something. And he has no idea. And he'd be like, Yeah, yeah. I think it, I think it found the thing it's going to find the, find the bunker in reality. He has, he, he was
Starting point is 01:07:40 able to deal with me, setting him up for failure a few times. And I wish that I could go back and watch what I did, kind of have a camera on me to see when I was doing things wrong or correctly or whatever, but all in all, incredible opportunity. And personally, I don't give those guys enough credit for how the production goes on because it is. It was truly mind blowing.
Starting point is 01:08:08 We, we, it was there. We're critical a lot of television coverage, but we're always quick to say like, I don't want that job. But it's hard. That's hard. Way harder than what we do. It's in terms of common. I get in and out 15 seconds.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Say something. Woody insightful. Unique. And it shows you know the course and is added to the viewer or something like that. It's like a tar. There were a couple times that K-Trick, there was, they'd be like, all right, we're cut into this puppy next that someone of the camera's had. And K-Trick would, he knew the puppy's name. He knew it was Jonathan Brightwell's puppy, knew the name and he made, did some little dog voice and it was hysterical. But they, they really are professionals and it's cool.
Starting point is 01:08:45 It really was. Thankful for that opportunity. Did they, before you went on, did they like, if nothing else do not do this? Like I imagine, I will say don't, don't cause. No, no, no, no. They're always like, just don't do this.
Starting point is 01:09:00 There wasn't any, there wasn't any dues or don'ts and that's why it was so intimidating. I think as it was, I'd spoke with Alex, Cornfairy Commissioner and she asked me to do it and I said well sure This is pretty sick. So I'll do it and I get there the first two hours So it was me Brian Brian K. Trick was the host and then James nitty's Doug Smith and I were gonna be the analyst kind of rotating in I'm the first two hours. I get there or like get there at 10 30 We don't go on till noon and I don gonna be the analyst kind of rotating in. I'm the first two hours. I get there at 10, 30, we don't go until noon and I don't go until two. So I'm there and I was like,
Starting point is 01:09:30 can I just watch what you guys are doing? So they had live stream on 15 and 17. And they're talking and I'm watching, I'm like, I could do this. It's a part three they're talking about in this part four. I can talk about the puts, their shots, their swings, whatever. And then it's my turn to go on to two
Starting point is 01:09:44 and then they're like, all right, we're going to, we're going to the featured group and we got Gary on the ground. And I haven't, I've never watched this before in my life. And now I'm interacting with a guy on the ground and I didn't get to watch anybody do it before. And they're like, yeah, you got this. I was like, do I, do I though? Cause I don't know if I do.
Starting point is 01:10:04 So I imagine I was probably a little rocky in the in the beginning, but I felt at least decent about it on the back nine yesterday, Colin Tyson and had some, had some fun nuggets. There was, there's one little nugget. I'll share quickly on Tyson. His grandpa, skip Alexander is maybe one of the coolest golf stories of all time that you've probably never heard of. Multiple winner of the PGA tour, played a couple rider cups, got in a plane crash, only survivor,
Starting point is 01:10:32 punched his way out of the fiery fuselage, and mangled his whole body, 70% of his body was burned. And he goes to the hospital, and he has a club with him, and he tells them, do surgery on my hands to make them work, but they have to be able to grip a club. Holy sh. So they do the surgery with him holding the golf club. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:10:53 Then they go, he grows up in North Carolina. Then he makes, he gets the last spot on the 1950 or 51 rider cup. He's the 10th place guy. He had one enough point. So he obviously hadn't played. It's a pine herst and this is like his backyard. He's like,th place guy. He had one enough point. So he obviously hadn't played. It's a pinehurst and this is like His backyard. He's like, I got a play So it's either I'm gonna get some of the details wrong, but Sneeter
Starting point is 01:11:12 I think Sneed is the captain and Hogan's obviously playing really well at this point They sit skip Alexander out the entire time until singles and singles are 36 holes and Sneeds like I want skip going against. I'm not going to get the guys name again, but the number one guy from Europe. He was the leading money winner on the European tour, whatever it was. And they send him out second to last between and like Hogan was upset about it because I think Hogan wanted to play him. And they sent him out second to last sandwich between Sneed and Hogan and he goes out and he's got tons of towels his ankles all mangled
Starting point is 01:11:48 so it's bleeding through his shorts or through his pants his or his hands are bleeding through his gloves doesn't take him off He's wiping them with towels and he beats the guy eight and seven Walking and that there's a quote in there from buddy Tyson's dad and it's like They were walking up 11 at number two. And it gets back up towards the clubhouse and skips like, I don't know how much I got left. I got a dust disaster right here. And he beats him eight seven on that.
Starting point is 01:12:15 So pretty, just one of those stories that it needs, you need a film about it. But pretty fun note on Tyson, his dad obviously was a USM champion. And grandpa, grandpa skip was maybe one of the cooler stories. There's an article on I think on a sports illustrator about this. And it is, it's truly fascinating. Um, that was you, you really, I just Googled it really quick and found the Wikipedia. Like you relayed that story almost perfectly accurately. I sounded a bit hyper hyperbolic. It really did. It's a big John Bantan 8 and 7
Starting point is 01:12:48 in the in the 1951 writer cuff. I joke with Tyson all the time that like skips clearly the coolest Alexander and what I've known about I don't know how I got on this topic with Tyson a year or two ago, but it's it's just fascinating. So fun little tidbit Tyson becomes the first ever to defend a corn fairy event successfully and his grandpa skip is maybe, maybe a cooler comeback. Then the in the article it talks about like Hogan's car crash and coming back. And then Tiger, what he just did at Augusta and this guy had 70% of his body burn and he goes out and waxes the European number one at Pinehurst and his back. So pretty sick.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Makes makes makes us feel really good about our jet lag today. Does it? Yeah. I was that tough travel 97 hours of sleep. Randy. Yeah. Came a meal tea your drink. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Get ready to try to just talk about our golf trip, but it seems kind of silly after that. Sorry, I was a tangent, but that's, it's, it's just one of my favorite stories. We've made a lot of Scotland golf content in the past. We've a full tourist all season about it. We have several podcasts about it, but Randy, we hadn't been back to the, to the homeland in quite some time. We, uh, I guess describe kind of our little trip. We, we just went on and kind of your impressions from it. Yeah, a trip two years in the making. We were originally supposed to go in April of 2020 and finally got to go. It was awesome to be back. A couple of things that were highlights for me. We
Starting point is 01:14:19 stayed in St. Andrews the whole time. So you and me and DJ went over even earlier to be there for the Masters. Tell us about who went on the trip though. Just start from there two years in the making. How how did that come about? Yeah. So we had 36 spots that we filled with mostly members of our community, the Nest. You can check that out at nolingup.com to see how to become a Ness member. Last June. You're not Ness members as well, but yeah, essentially just five of us, so 31 other familiar, some familiar faces, some names we recognize, and some people we've met for the first time.
Starting point is 01:15:01 And you know, as these things tended to do, it was an awesome group. And I think it was a great balance of group dinners and some nights on our own. And obviously lots and lots of golf in between. And it just, you know, weather wise, we got the full Scottish experience. I feel like we had some really nice calm days. And we had, you know, a few rounds where it was raining and blowing pretty hard and pretty chilly throughout, but man when the sun came out, it was really nice. But yeah, well, like I was saying, it was just really nice to be just a Scott in Andrews and have a chance to really explore the town, you know, when we went over for tours to us, we were evenly driving every moment we weren't playing golf. And while it was awesome to see so much of the country and so many different courses,
Starting point is 01:15:56 I really treasured being in St. Andrews for that amount of time walking through town, getting to some more pubs, trying some new restaurants. It just was wonderful to spend time in that city. So, yeah, I guess golfing wise, I don't know if you want to run through the itinerary, but what was the highlight or a couple of highlights for you, Sally? Yeah, so this was my, I think my fourth trip to St. Andrews in some capacity. But first time I ever go in in April, I kind of always, you know, have viewed that time of the year as being off limits because of temperature and weather and things like that.
Starting point is 01:16:30 And we got a little bit unseasonably cold from what we were told. And it was three or four layers at minimum for all of the golf, but it definitely passed the test in my book in terms of like, would you want to play there and abs of fucking lootly? Like it was awesome. It was so much fun. We ended up going over early to make sure we could cover the masters completely and fully sound like an amazing idea at the time.
Starting point is 01:16:51 I will play golf in the morning and watch golf till late at night and stay up till 2 30 in the morning and then wake up at 7 30 and play more golf. But we squeezed in some golf at North Barric, Ely and the old course before our trip started and got a once in a lifetime opportunity to have lunch in the RNA and and do that whole experience and did you do the mince the mince meet at lunch did the traditional you know new member lunch did the traditional new member lunch we did not get asked to join the RNA while we were there but we had a splendid time with our host there and
Starting point is 01:17:25 got to play the old course in the afternoon on a Saturday and then roll straight into the bar and watch, watch the Masters on TV that evening. It was, it was special. It just really was and it's an old course in particular. Just continues to, I continue to grow with appreciation for it. It's my favorite golf course in the world and I keep expecting to play it one time and be like, dude, you kind of build it up too much in your head. And it just like keeps getting better and better and better. And it's not incredibly hard. It's just a proper, proper challenge. And it is the most
Starting point is 01:17:58 fun you can have charting yourself around. The caddies are incredible. And I don't know, just it's a we get to do a lot of really cool stuff and I guess this pandemic has Very very much limited how much of that we can do is first time kind of traveling internationally as a group And three years when that was a core thing at one point that we did much more frequently than we currently do and to get to touch back into that and wait You know after waiting two plus years for it It was special that something about that place just makes. It makes my obsession with golf feel validated, if you will. It makes it feel like a worthwhile endeavor and usage of my time
Starting point is 01:18:35 and connection with nature and being outdoors and touching base with the history of the game and playing golf where people have played golf for hundreds and hundreds of years and the groups of people that work so hard to maintain it that have had a really rough couple of years without having visitors. It can't tell I had a good time. That's my essay I think on it, but Holy shit was a great.
Starting point is 01:18:57 So we worked with Connoisseur golf, so shut out to them. Simon Holt was our main point of contact there. And I think you're right about that. I mean, the only thing I'll add was it was really wonderful to hear not only hear the people had never been to Scotland, let alone, had never played the whole course to hear them describe the fun and the feeling that it meant to them, but you could literally just see it on their faces, right? I played in a group with two people that I had never played the old course before.
Starting point is 01:19:33 And it just is, you know, you go out, 8, 9, 10, and then you hit 11, and then you turn home on 12, and you see town, and you just make your way towards towards town. Obviously everybody knows the road hole 17 and then the walk up 18. But I almost got as big a kick this time of experiencing it through them and just hearing their reactions and their emotions and how much fun they were having. I think what can never be overstated is how many different ways that you can play golf on the Scottish links.
Starting point is 01:20:12 And you can play the ball through the air if you'd like, but you can also play the ball completely on the ground if you'd like. And people tend to do somewhere in between, but it just caters to every different type of golfer. I mean, we had scratch and better golfers on the trip all the way up to, you know, 20 handicaps. And they just have fun playing golf because you don't have like forced carries off the
Starting point is 01:20:37 tease. You don't have a lot of punishing aspects of golf course design that you can get in America sometimes. And so, you know, oh my god, I put it fromimen, describe the round and kind of that feeling of, oh my God, this type of golf is incredible. Yeah, it's just, like I said, it's impossible to overstate the truth in that, I think, to certainly people that have been know, but if you haven't,
Starting point is 01:21:22 like please grab a special person in your life, a few people in your life and golf and try to head over because I I promise you It won't let you down What one question. What's the diet like over there? What what's the food? I've always I you hear guys talk about it Going over for the majors and whatnot and it's the same kind of thing every night But what you mentioned different restaurants are you is it essentially the same kind of thing every night. But what you mentioned different restaurants, is it essentially the same food at every restaurant? Very similar, like what do you eat for dinner? Well, so the big joke was like French fries
Starting point is 01:21:53 or is considered a Scottish salad. It is heavy on potatoes. You're going to have potatoes in one form or fashion. A lot of meat sausages. I think it's fine, right? Like you just don't get the maybe variety that we're used to here where it's like easy to go grab Italian or Indian or Thai or, you know,
Starting point is 01:22:19 especially in a place like San Andrews. I mean, they do have that. You just gotta work a little harder to get away from the burger or the the steak and ale pie or the fish and chips. I mean, yeah, it's not bad, but I think some people are like after 10, 11 days, it's just like Yeah, I said, like, let me run into a leafy green. Argentino was very similar. It quickly is you'd order, you go to a nice steakhouse and you're like, oh, yeah, I'll have the big filet
Starting point is 01:22:52 or the big rib, I whatever. And you get poppas free this. You get french fries with your fancy. It'd be like going to Roos Chris and getting this porter house and then bringing out a plate of french fries right next to it. And you're like, I don't think that goes with this, but whatever. I'll eat french fries again. So Yeah, I will say I love the
Starting point is 01:23:11 Unpretentious unfussy lunches. So we got a lot of lunches. It just consisted of a bowl of soup and some very simple sandwiches and I love that and then you kind of you know, you eat a lot of dinner and you have some beers. And I like the way that they eat, even if, you know, from time to time, I'm like, okay, I need, I like, like, we had to go get Indian one night because it's like, I need some different flavor. It's something about to just the whole, the whole vibe of finishing around and stumbling into a pub. You can bring your golf clubs into a pub and they've got outdoor storage or somewhere to store your clubs and everybody around there just talking golf and you're in the jigger in, which is just one of the great places in bar.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Of course, everybody knows about the done vegan too. And I'm trying to struggle with the word. It's not nostalgia. Like I didn't grow up there, obviously, but it makes it feels, whatever the word you would use to describe, it's like, this is where I'm supposed to be right now. And as for as many as much as I love my family and all things, like there's very little I would rather be doing than like walking the fairways of Scotland playing golf with friends. I think that's right. I would just say the word that strikes me is content. Like I just always feel content when I'm over there.
Starting point is 01:24:24 It's just like a true dream come true. Like I've spent a lot of my early 20s, like reading about top golf courses the world and dreaming of getting to play them one day and walking the fairways and having done it, you know, I've probably played 150 links rounds of my life. And I, I, at one point I expected it, maybe expected to wear off and it never does. I mean, and that's the thing too is getting out and playing some golf courses that are not top of the bucket list like we didn't even know about. I never heard of Ely five years ago before I played it for the first time and now every time I play that it grows and grows on my list. The new course at St Andrews awesome Eden. The Eden course was a new one for me to play and that the front nine was amazing at the Eden. We went to pan mirror and play for the first time to what were some of the the secondary highlights for you?
Starting point is 01:25:09 Well, I was just going to say how good Eden and the Jubilee course were at St Andrews. I think the old course gets so much attention. I know I'd heard a lot of people say really good things about the new course. I was very excited to see that. I was blown away in my expectations totally. It was beyond my expectations how good Eden and Jubilee were. Those are two courses. I would happily, happily, happily sign up to play going back. We didn't see the cast, you know, we didn't see all of the courses,
Starting point is 01:25:43 but those were courses that we saw. And I loved them, except for maybe 14 on the eating course, which is the most misplaced hole in all of Scotland. But yeah, I think I would add that. Pamere was just wonderful. It had such a historic old wooden clubhouse. It kind of felt like just one of those under the radar cool clubs in the States, right? Like that kind of how the the standing it had felt to me at least. But the type of course like, man, awesome walk. So that engaged in shots. And then I just have to say, Karnusti, first time I got to play Karnusti, I will probably
Starting point is 01:26:27 spoil me for life. The wind was down. The rough was down. Probably will never play easier. And I played well. I had such a good time. Shot 80. Tell them.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Tell them. I already got a heart. Or 18, part 18 to shoot 80. What was it? How did an 18 look? What, what, give me the play by play? Well, I drove it a little right, but had a great lie and I had 170 to carry the burn. I was coming in from the right, you know, out of bounds is immediately left off that green.
Starting point is 01:26:59 And I had like 220 to the pin, maybe. And so my caddy and I, we had a long discussion. I wish the camera's could have been there and I hadn't made a double bogey all day it was purely all parsing bogeys and The name of the game was like let's avoid disaster and he finally talked me into he was like we're gonna hit a nine iron up here We're gonna wedge in and we're gonna give you a putt for par and we're going to take disaster out of it. Lo and behold, that's what we did. I realized the name of our company and everything. But I was wondering if you were going to say the word.
Starting point is 01:27:32 I made the sensual play. I made a tasteful layup. I hit a great wedge to about 12 feet and I rolled in the putt and I was like, yeah, well, that's sometimes you don't have to go forward, I guess. I'm proud of you. Thank you. I owe you a big thanks, humor. I've played the old course. I believe it's five times. And on my sixth time, I knew it was there for the taking the win was 12 miles an hour, maybe out of the West, which is where you'd want to play the old,
Starting point is 01:27:59 the old course hat and done Bogey on one, whatever, but still a birdie on four, birdie, par five, fifth, get a birdie on seven, uh, done bogey on nine, but then birdie 13 and I'm coming down the stretch at the old course, never broken par on it before. And dude, I, it is so fun to have like just I'm playing for absolutely nothing in terms of the group or anyone else. It's a little bit of money matches, but like I just wanted it for myself so badly and I got so nervous coming down the stretch, my heart was pounding and the pin is back left on the road hall, which Randy you wanted so so badly you wanted to play that pin and it just again going back to like my appreciation for the old course so I knew where the pin was. So I knew I don't even have to take on the right. I don't really have to take it over the hotel because I know the best the best play to that pin is going to be from the long left because you got to avoid the road hole bunker. If you play down the right, you got to hit like a draw around the road hole bunker, bringing the road into play,
Starting point is 01:28:52 all kinds of things. So I bail it left. We're in the rough. We talked through my caddy, getting the right number and I hit an eight iron that I was expecting to jump and it didn't. And I got got trapped behind the corner of the road hole. Chipping at the road off of tight Scottish turf to a back left pin. And I had the chipping yips as of November before we sat in the garage here at Jack's Beach and you taught me about using the bounce. And I had to open the face of a 60 and flop one over the corner of this bunker and I just nipped it perfect.
Starting point is 01:29:22 It nipped the top of the hill, skipped down, rolled to like six feet. And I said this to my caddios, like I feel like I remember this from four years ago that this putt breaks more than you'd think. He was like, you're exactly right. And again, this is like how much of a fuck he's in his element right now. This is sick.
Starting point is 01:29:42 He was green bulls. He had to putt. He was sicko. I am about the old course. I can vividly remember some of these things. And I would remember two. What do you think of this ball mark right here? And he's like, it's a little bit more. And I was like, fuck yeah, let's do it.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Cause I always overreputs. But he gives me the right line. And I hit the mark and it fell in the low side. And I just gave like a huge fit. Like nobody else cares. But I gave a fist pump. And and for you, I needed to be sure I should have birdied 18. I drove great, but I, if I birdied, I would have shot 69, but tried to flop it up, not flop it, but nip a chip up back up to the top shell because that was my best birdie chance.
Starting point is 01:30:20 But shot a 70 and I was, it was just the most most one of the most rewarding rounds of golf ever because I Just have such appreciation for the chess match that is that golf course and Gosh, it's just it was just so much fun. It brought back a love for golf that I'd kind of a little teeny tiny bit forgot about them So that's awesome. Good for you. Happy place. So we all will drown our sorrows as we head to band in this coming week for Another chip that we were not planning to have back to back but a pandemic had other plans So we'll drown our sorrows as we head to band in this coming week for another trip that we were not planning to have back to back, but a pandemic had other plans. So we'll take in another group of 60 some people actually out to band. So if you're interested in joining one of these trips, sometime head to knowlingup.com slash
Starting point is 01:30:55 join and nest members have first try to sign up to to some of these events. And I don't know how many we're going to do in the future. So that sets us a little bit back on the business front for quite some time, but gosh, it's a fun and rewarding experience. So awesome. Yeah, I think more than anything, it just fills the tank. Yep. It just, I come home and I can be very cynical about golf, and it's like, man, that was awesome.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Like that, I had so much fun just playing golf and that's that's very cool. And if this makes one person, you know, we're not, we didn't discover Scotland. We didn't discover American tourism golf in Scotland, but if this makes one person book a trip, just hearing about our excitement from it, then that will be considered a success. So anything else before we wrap for tonight, fellas? Well, you know, I won't get into it, but the red zoneership sucks. So I wanted to shout that out for my fellow red fans. You can get into it. I did see a tweet. If someone's someone tweeted at you, um, asking like question for the pod was,
Starting point is 01:31:59 why did the red sucks so bad? And I kind of want to hear about it. Yeah, well, they suck so bad because they have bad players and they have bad players because they traded away a lot of their good ones. And they, you know, they're crying poor. They are operating like a small market team. And it's just very disappointing that the reds, the son of the reds, majority owner Phil Castellini came on opening day for the
Starting point is 01:32:29 reds in Cincinnati and essentially was asked, you know, Hey, what do you say to fans that see this fire sale, see this rebuild and have to be asking like what's going on? And essentially say, where are they going to go? You know, they're yeah, what are you going to do? And to that, I would essentially say, well, where are they going to go? You know, they're, yeah, what are you going to do? And to that, I would just say, man, you, y'all better be careful because down the street, the bangles have something special building. And yeah, I think with the reds, the opposite of love is, is not hate.
Starting point is 01:32:59 The opposite of love is apathy. And I'm just like, that's where it seems to be headed for the red. So hope I'm wrong, but they lost today to drop to two and eight. And yeah, things aren't looking great, which is just a bummer. You're not wrong. We're going to be bad. It's good. I'm rooting against him now. I mean, that's that's where my love. Yeah, I feel like I'm going to start rooting against him now too. Well, it's like a tag if we're going to tank tank, right?
Starting point is 01:33:25 Like we need to we need to unload some more assets probably and start making plans for 2024. They're kind of half in half out and the Vato thing's going to be very interesting. I I don't know what to do there. I am willing to do with whatever he would want to do. I can't see him wanting to stay and do this any longer. He's put up with it for a long enough. So set our beautiful boy free. Trade him to Toronto. Toronto's a fun
Starting point is 01:33:51 team. I would love to root form on the blue jade. Send him home. My cubs were in in dinner today. They clipped the Rockies. I didn't know if you were. I thought some smell bad. I was taking a walk this morning. I thought there was a little rot smell Yeah, it's a smell of victory. You guys haven't smelled that Put it in. Cut his mic. We'll put it in To this week's podcast Thank you everyone for tuning in hubes. Thanks for coming in today. Big Randy. Thank you for powering through the jet lag Hope everyone has a great week and we'll see you back here again shortly Raccoon Hope everyone has a great week and we'll see you back here again shortly. Cheers.
Starting point is 01:34:25 Rackle. Get a right club. Be the right club today. That is better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most. Better than most. Better than most.

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