No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 559: Sunday PGA Championship Recap ft. Max Homa and Kevin Van Valkenburg

Episode Date: May 23, 2022

JT wins the PGA! Max Homa calls in to break down his week, KVV comes on to talk about his now infamous JT/Rory column, Mito's collapse, Zalatoris, and everything else from an eventful week in Tulsa.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm going to be the right club today. I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most! Brandy is here. Hello, Mr. Big. Hey guys, great to be back. Thanks for having me. We have a lot to talk about. We have a guest in the green room that we're going to bring in right off the bat. He's only got a few minutes. Want to give a quick shout out to our friends, of course, at Yeti, who have been a great supporter of our shows this week. Sponsored us all week long, the Rode 24. We do have to report. It did run out of ice. No, no, no, no, no, no, the ice can be combinedine it in a minute at any moment. The drink is still cold, but the ice has melted. It took a good 72 hours, but it could, could reform. But we're not moving it until Rory wins a major.

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And speaking, we're gonna get to that. We're gonna first welcome in our guest, the pro, Mr. Max Homo, what's up? It's here. Greetings, fresh off. It's a great ad reading buddy. Dude, I'm a professional at this and you're a professional at what you do as well.

So it's good to talk to a fellow professional. Yeah, buddy. Dude, I'm a professional at this and you're a professional at what you do as well. So it's good to talk to a fellow professional. Yeah, likewise. Max, people were giving you so much shit on the way in. What's this guy going to do? When's he going to do it in a major? When's he going to show up? And the guy goes out and finishes T13 this week. Congratulations.

I know we've got a lot more to talk about, but you've only got a few minutes here. Just quick summation of the week. What are you taking away? Well, thank you for soft-fragment. I mean, the golf course was awesome. It was really hard. I was proud of the fact that I didn't feel like I had it all except for yesterday, the Saturday round.

I didn't get much out of it. I hit the ball pretty amazing that day. But struggled a little bit here and there. The first, the first two days today, I, I just, I couldn't get comfy, but I kept it together. It was kind of fun to watch my short game, social in the front and I like keep me in it. And that's what I felt like was going to be, hopefully going forward, help me in these majors, because you're just never going to, you're never going to overpower the, the golf course. But

it was a cool week, man. It was cool to be in the mix. It was cool knowing today that if I went out and balled, like I could win a major, and that was fun. So yeah, it's a pretty crazy feeling Sunday in kind of in contention at a major, man. It's a different rush. What did you get to watch the finish?

And what was your reaction as any or all of that was going on? Yeah, we Lacey pulled up the YouTube TV. I drove home. I drove back to hotel. Lacey was in the car and so it was just we're grinding It's so hard man winning is so hard and I don't know how me told you know was was feeling but I mean you're he's a rookie and He's a baller, but like, it's just a lot of heat. The end of that golf course is so cool because you play. I think you got, I saw you guys tweet, you know, like you have kind of a green light on 13, 14 today was playing ridiculously hard. 15s of green light, if you get the fairway, 16 was playing very long. 17 obviously could kind of

be either and then 18s tough. And he got through so much and then it's just a tough drive. The little annoying, I mean you got probably pretty much in the choir, little annoying, Fowldale kind of rippin' in for the drivey hit or the club choice because that's the shot I hit off that C, that's the one JT was hitting. I think if you're comfy with like a low cut, it was such like a smart play, you can play like a smooth one. And it obviously just didn't hit a good one But I like that play because you can kind of play it up the left But once once that happens, I'm sure things were kind of flying around and it's just a badass hole, man It's a badass hole

But what they did that the playoff being 13 17 18 was sick so good six 16 like I love this course 16 admittedly I think is a pretty bad hole and and and all you know if you do it. I need to work. Here we go. I'm just saying it's not like it there's not especially into the win like the fairways of million yards wide and you kind of get an angle if you're up the right but I don't know it's kind of a weird hole but 17 is so good 13 so good obviously 18 is amazing So what they did with that is an unreal and JT my events, I mean, I said it Earlier, I don't know if I said it to you guys, but I said it to my friends

Like he's the best player I've played with and it's cool to see him go get a major because obviously He hasn't had one since like 17 and it's crazy when you think about how hard it must be to win majors if that kid can't like 17 and it's crazy when you think about how hard it must be to win majors if that kid can't rack them up. So that was pretty cool, but what a that was a pretty cool finish man. That was a lot of a lot of young guys and a lot of good golf. Were you were you kicking yourself after the after the bogey on 17 and then kind of yeah, kind of some rad ass on 18. Yeah, I was I was in a pretty pissy spot. I was in between clubs on the tee and just kind of spun a three With a little and thought it might get to the bunker and obviously went in the hazard and made just an awful bogey on a whole you could just go left

But yeah, I was we were joking walking off the 18 teaming jokes I was like I could have seen myself going birdie bogey, but I would not see myself going birdie a bogey birdie So I guess I'll I'll and I'll take. Is there anything you just mentioned in JT and obviously all the players you see up close and him sticking out that much? What is it that sticks out to you? Like, what is it? Is it, are you able to quantify it, although it's just me like man, he's like really fucking good. Or is there something that like really sticks out to you? Yeah, there is. He's obviously like a top two or three iron player in the world, and he has been for a while. So it's not like a new thing.

That's his staple, but he's a OK driver. I mean, he hits about really far. He has really creative shots. I've to see how it wouldn't say he's like mega accurate. Like that would probably be the something that maybe bugs him at times, but when it's on, it's really good because he hits it really far And he can hit that low cut and he hit the high draw like he has all the shots there

But when you mix that with iron play like it doesn't really matter because he's gonna get enough irons in his hands where he's gonna just You know beat up holes, but His short game is the most underrated short game on tour the The bunker shot of you on 17 and regulation was sick. Like he went ball first, played a spinner, it's hard to spin out of those bunkers. And he just, he knows what he's doing. It's a lot of like the Jordan, a speech type stuff. Like he just has a lot of shots around there,

but his finesse with the wedges, I think, is a separator. You look at somebody who can overpower parfies, but can also lay up on them and not feel like he's given him much back. That's amazing. And his brain is, I mean, I think there's a reason Tiger and him are so close. Like, he's a dog, man. He wants to win real bad. And he seems very comfortable in the other spots. So I just think some of all parts,'s it's it's very there's very little you can nitpick He's an impressive dude Well, I know you got to run here shortly, but we'll get you out of here on what what did you learn this week?

What's your biggest takeaway about yourself this week? Oh? I learned that I don't need my A game to win a major which is cool Fuck yeah, which is fun. I know that's like probably a cliche answer. But I think the most important part about winning your first Torrevent is knowing that it's probably, it's not as perfect as you think it was gonna be. I think everybody who's ever won one realized they could have played better.

But I've never played in a major worth of damn. So I felt, you still feel like a little, a little bit like I need to, everything to be clicking. And like on Thursday, I didn't drive them all well. And this course set up great for me. And I've been driving the hell out of it. So I was a call of a man, like, of course, you know, it's not here this week. And sticking my kind of keep my head down and learning, taking what I learned

from the masters and some of these past major experiences and just going and playing golf and getting the ball in the hole and waiting for that time when it clicks was fun. So yeah, I mean, like I said, I played yesterday, I'm taking myself more yesterday than today because today I didn't really have it that great. I wasn't doing a good job on some shots that I had been excelling at,

but at the same time yesterday, I think I could have posted four or five under, if I would have just made a couple of putts. So that was kind of the difference, but it was cool to see two out of the four days. I didn't feel great about my game. And that's what I think you see these guys do. You look at Justin yesterday kind of holding on

and keeping himself in the golf tournament. So I was proud of that. But yeah, majors are different, man. Like the scores just seem to go backwards, more than four words, and in Tor events, they go four words more than backwards. You feel like your foot has to be on the gas. And it was cool, I guess learning that about some majors.

You don't need to be, you just don't need to just fire. You don't need to, you don't feel like, you don't need to feel like you're getting laughed ever. And today, our goal is to get to six and, you know, you're hoping for some help from Mito obviously and the rest of the crew, but, uh, I don't know. Like, having, getting more comfortable knowing that that's more likely than him getting to someone getting to 14 under, whereas at a tour event, I mean, you gotta go out there and shoot like 60 to have a chance. If you're right back. So just learning little stuff like that.

I think I think that's cool. And that's what makes majors. So they're just so amazing. There's so much good play with the course that usually dominates on the Brookline, baby. Here we go. Yeah. We go to harder. Pro pro, I just want to congratulate you as one of your biggest fans and one of your

most outspoken critics. It's great to see you take this step and tied for 13th the players tied for 13th the PGA championship Really really look forward to the rest of the year, especially in the majors for you. Good job Thank you Randy as one of your biggest fans and not even closer biggest critic It feels nice to hear some kind words, but I like I said, I strive to play well enough for you

to just continue to bash me for not winning. You're getting there, man. We get there. Yeah, that's a deal. We're gonna break through in one of these. Come on. So love it. Good stuff, Max.

Thanks again for calling in. We'll see you safe travel, bud. Thank you. Thanks again on the Stanford video, guys. That was incredible. Thank you. Thank you. We'll update there later. There's I think that's again on the Stanford video guys, that was incredible. Thank you. Thank you. We'll update their later. They're starting to lift and separate out there.

It's great from a cow guy, such as yourself. Exactly. Yeah, I respect you guys enough to reach out and all the branch. Max is going to donate a bunch of money to the cow women's program so they can hire and walk them out. Exactly. We just need a billion dollars to build a seabull. Practicality. That's pretty close.

I don't win in some majors, man. There we go. See you, Max. See you, buddy. See you. See you. Yeah. Bye. All right, Randy, we're going to start with you. Was this a big boy win for JT? It was a great win. I think, you know, Tron and I said yesterday, and maybe you guys did too, but I remember, like I cut him a little bit of break yesterday for his play.

He had come through the really hard wave on Thursday, Friday. Obviously didn't play that great yesterday, but to shoot a 67 and to go birdie birdie par in that playoff, it was a great win. It was a fantastic win and absolutely what I've been wanting to see out of JT, what I think we've all been expecting to see more out of them. It was a very, very nice win for him. Nothing, nothing but great things to say about today.

Does this remove the asterisk on the win at Quail Hollow? Kind of a 0.5 major wins now becomes to a validating win. We're talking about, yeah, he's coming out of the wrong way. Yeah, right way. I feel like everything kind of settles out. Like it shouldn't even have gone to a playoff. Right, like they should have just, like, all right, you and Will tied,

but obviously you came out of the harder way. Yeah. We're the champion here. You know, I think like I was really, really impressed with him. He like, like yesterday, the the worst shot that I feel like he hit yesterday was that wedge on 13, where he was, you know, 90 or 100 yards out. He, he hit it maybe 80 yards, just dumped it in the front bunker. It was totally just like inexplicable. And today on 13, he didn't make the putt in the actual regulation play, but he hit it to 10 feet. It had a really, really nice shot from 94 yards out and comes back in the playoff and basically hits it inside

of that and then makes the putt. And it was like, I don't know, I just feel like I feel so confident in him when he has a wedge in his hands. It felt like this was like it should have added up to this before it actually happened, right? We've been talking about how in control of his golf ball, he's been for a long time and it hasn't added up to he's not been racking up wins He's not been playing better than any other period of, you know, he's not gotten better results than any other period in his career He's actually had, you know, stretches with a lot better results. He could have had four with a lot better results. But this is what it looks like, his best golf, and it culminated, not capitulated, but

culminated in today, being the win, but Mito capitulated. He did. That's another point I want to make here is like, I said this on the preview pod was going back and watching the 2017 PGA and how he won that chipping in making bomb birdie butts having a ball fall on the lip and fall in is like how freaking hard it is to win because he if meet up rara steps up and hits a drive down the center of the fairway on 18 we're not we don't leave the show talking about JT like something that was just seven or enough to do yeah probably not talk it is something that is completely out of his hands you know following like this was a week where

it was amazing how it was a survival test. I mean, I listed off the names on Twitter of all the guys that did not finish the tournament under par and it's stunning. I mean, the guys that did, there's only a couple big names in that whole group and he just outlasted a man. It's a cold at like one of the worst shanks

you could ever see on six. Rodonic stuff. Make gets up and down from the bunker to make bogey on it. And then comes back in birdies, four holes after that, I believe. And left a couple out there. Then comes out in the plow. It hits a okay drive off 16, lays it up. Perfect wedge, birdie.

Perfect three wood, birdie. Perfect drive, perfect nine iron or eight iron, two putt. And just it was nails. So yeah, I mean, I will say like we'll talk about Rory, but it's crazy to think that Rory was 500 par after the first round and 500 par won the tournament. Indeed it is indeed it is. And he had birdied for it as first five holds today.

I noticed that as well. Yes, we'll get there. Yeah. Go ahead. Jolly, to your point. Yeah, no, I was just going to say JT's 32. I mean, God, he had 29. I almost think he left some out there like you were saying.

He missed a 10 foot of for birdie on 13, missed an 8 foot or on 15, and then had about 10 feet on 18 for birdie. It just was really, you know, after that shank on six and then the rest of the way in, it was really, really impressive. I think, you know, it's different. Referee.

Referee's the shank that JT had and what he did after that and then thinking about the shanks that Randy had at Royal Dordek and how he played after that. What do you, I believe started playing entire holes with a hybrid, just like that, fuck this. I'm so out. It's, you know, Randy, it shows that difference. It shows that difference in mentality. I will say that. But he had a caddy. So I got it. And in a damn fine caddy at that. Right. If bones was in Dornak, maybe things go a little

differently for me. It's a great point. Yeah, it's a good point that you're making. You're right, though. Like the shot on 15 hit it to eight feet. Like I just down the stretch, it felt like he was, he was doing exactly what he wanted to do with the golf ball and that's really, really rare to see someone like that in control. And I think what's so cool about it too, like mentioning or building on exactly what you said where like nobody, I'm not more comfortable

with anybody else like with a wedge in their hand. It's weird that he gets you excited to watch him hit wedges. Like when he is at anywhere from 60 to 90 yards, you're like, oh, I'm excited to watch this next one because that's what he does so well. But building on what Max was saying, and just this, some of his parts,

is the fact that he's so good at something like that, which is so just like, I mean, there's an art to it, right, about controlling spin and all that stuff, but it's also just a repetitious skill, right? Just something that is, I'm the best in the world at this because I've done it a bunch. But the fact that he does that at that level and he also hits the t-shirt that he hit on 18 in regulation is like, yeah, this guy's a low-key like artist. And that's kind of what we said coming in, right?

It was like, don't forget about those rounds. He played at the players where he was flashing like, yo, I'm not a... I'm not the track man guy. I am a real, I'm a real, a real boy. I'm a real ball hitter. I'm a grown ball hitter here. And I know what I'm doing. And you just kind of saw that leaderboard gravity start to start to take shape. And it was a blast. It was, it was awesome to watch. I think conversely though, it's got to be really, really tough when you have all of those shots, when you have that full toolbox to no end to use each tool And he there's I think it's on the Earn Your Edge podcast He did with the Alta's guys about talking about how he works on his wedge game

Which I always ever heard about Dustin Johnson as he worked on track me and worked on track me But JT was like no, no, like I learned how to hit like if I want to hit like the 68 yard 60 degree or the 72 yard 56 degree like what the spin 60 degree or the 72 yard 56 degree like what the spin Interjectory has to be for each of it like the numbers exactly how they have to be like how do you get it to land 68 yards when it needs to land 68 yards and he's like, yeah, 70's not good enough Like it has to be that's like holy shit, man I had not thought it thought it threw to that level or didn't know it went to that level and that's it feels like I I'm wondering if going from I feel like with one major

He was not the question was still like about his major championship record well how many how many years does two majors now by him is it a lifetime pass we got to ask like does the johnson right i mean i i feel i still feel like we have those conversations about him there's still and they're still but they're p g a's we're not gonna let them off the hook for that

but they just second masters. DJ's masters is a total astray. But Oakmont was the greatest win in the history. So we were talking about like this PGA. There's shades of gray. There's a bunch of club pros in the field. Brian Harmon was upset about playing with some of them this week. I know, but I'm just saying it's like he came out of the,

came out of difficult wave. However, kind of got crowned by a little bit of the field today. So those two things kind of cancel out. And then it's a PGA. So I feel like it's probably, he probably has 1.5 majors. He has to. We're not going to do this.

We're not. This was, this was a big boy major on this call. Yeah, I agree. This was big time. And he used to be the king of, I think it was like, Burkdale. He was so whiny about being on the wrong side of the draw. And I was like, yeah, dude, you have no chance. And then he gets a horrible side of the draw again.

And you could see through 36 holes, you're just kinda like, yeah, it was pretty upset watching the golf, yesterday afternoon, but like he just had moved on from it. And here he is. I'll say, I think to fit my favorite thing, like, listen, I know Mr. Nicholas

is a Buddhist foot in his mouth quite a few times, but the quote about majors and like, I've beat half the guys before we tee it up, is so freaking true. And even here in Mito, like talk about, you know, when he's, it was, first of all, it was awesome that he did the interview with Amanda, loved hearing from him and loved, like, you know, getting to kind of, you know, close the circle on that, but hearing him be like, yeah, I mean, I was just hoping to make the cut this week. It's like, do you, that's got to fuck with you when you're trying to hit the shot JT hit on 18. You saw what happens when Mito tries to hit it

without that experience and without all the kind of, you know, context. That's a rotella thing. Yeah, it's exactly. He made that point and golf is not a game of perfect or forget what it was about how if you go out and your goal is to shoot one under for whatever you, and when you get to four,

you're fucked because I'm gonna go on strapped. Yeah, if you don't play that. That's all you just explain my entire. Yeah, but that helped me like get over my fear of going low was like if you have to go out and be like, I was the best round you ever shot, that's what you have to go picture when you go tee it up or else if you get below that your mind is not gonna be able to handle it. You have to accept picture when you go tee it up or else if you get below that your mind is not going to be able to handle it. You have to accept that as normal. You're naturally going to regress. That's what your mind is telling you. You are in a place you should not be. And it felt like

Mido, he had built up enough throughout the course of the day, but it felt like that whole day was a big regression backwards. And it finally caught up to him on. And he was, I mean, he had some of the greasy stuff in downs and you know, puts and everything. And there was like, holy shit, man, like, like, props. Yeah, like, just, you know what, like, you got it today. But I, like, there's got to be something exhausting as well about having to shift that mentality mid tournament or like, once you do make the cut and you're leading and it's like, holy shit. And like, that's, that takes up so much energy to, to try to shift your mentality

midway through it. I think with JT like him like not being bitchy yesterday when he wasn't playing well and you know especially after he had played so well on Friday in the muck was I think that was a like very very like like it showed a lot of maturity from him which I think that's something that we've been asking from him uh and expecting or or wanting to maturity from him, which I think that's something that we've been asking from him, uh, and expecting or, or wanting to see from him is just a little bit of, like, more maturity, not, not just being bitchy on the golf course all the time. And he seemed like he just had, he was so much more even killed this week. And I, I feel like all of, whenever I make this point or comment, it's a shot at Jimmy

Johnson, and it's just not, but like having bones on the bag, and it's almost just like having a responsible adult. And again, that's not to say Jimmy Johnson wasn't, but it having bones on the bag, and it's almost just like having a responsible adult. And again, that's not to say Jimmy Johnson wasn't, but it just, it felt like, it almost feels like he's got an in-house governor on him, right? Or somebody that keeps him in something that's with the right process, there's more of an alpha and more inserting themselves

in the scenario than say Jimmy Johnson was. I was gonna say, I, this is all projection. This is all projection, and I have no idea what JT's relationship with Jimmy Johnson was. I was going to say I, this is all, I don't know that. All of the projections, this is all projection. I have no idea what JT's relationship with Jimmy Johnson is or was or whatever, but there's a, there's got to be a weird power dynamic almost, right? When, yeah, that's what I mean. JT is like the wonder kind, right? Coming out of college, he is the star.

He is the preeminent talent on the PJ tour. And like, how are you, you're going to tell him to stop being a bitch? Like that's, that's a really hard spot to put even I know he might have any minute. Yes exactly but all accounts Jimmy's a great caddy Yes, and that's but that's a hard spot to put any caddy. Yeah, right and and it seems like Going through that together and it seems like their their separation was fairly amicable and and totally fine, but Bringing bones in is almost like okay. This is like like chapter two. Like, let's almost like reset, right? And also just wild at bones, one, two PJJP.

I mean, yeah. No, you didn't, I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, there was someone who was saying that, this regard. It's kind of a balance thing to fill. You got fooled by balance. I did, yes, balance you tweeted that. Balance, I'm coming for you.

It's kind of like JT2.0, right? It's kind of like, hey, this was the right guy to shepherd him through this stage of his career. And then it doesn't, I think that measure, it doesn't even matter who that person was. He just needs someone else besides that person, regardless of who it is, to shepherd him through the next stage. Which might translate to our Rory conversation, but I think we can hold off on that later. 29 years old two-time major winner players and 15 wins. I think is it 15 wins and two majors is a lock for Hallfayme?

I think so. 15 or not that anyone cares about that. I was going to say it's all frankly. But to do that for your 30 is something. Steven A Smith frankly. We don't care. We don't care. We don't. We don't care. We don't care. We don't.

We don't care. Well, he did the ice. Go ahead. Yeah, no, sorry. He joins a rather elusive group of winning multiple PGAs and no other majors. Dave Stockton and some guys from like the 20s and 30s. About that. What is the major number over under for JT GoTo now?

Is it three and a half? Well, that's what I was gonna say. The idea of JT 2.0, 3.0, whatever we're seeing here, gets me really hyped, right? Because especially, Randy, I'll give you some shine here, but especially thinking, Ron was gonna be the dude, right? And like, he's gonna be the guy that's just gonna

rattle off a bunch of majors. And see, okay, Speed is gonna come back, or Morakawa's, he's gonna be the guy that's gonna just dominate. JT, we've always kind of said this is like when he's running man, he's got the highest gear, it seems like. And so, you know, I'm not gonna get caught up in the major recency bias and say, I think he's gonna win eight. But I mean, I feel like two more, it feels like it would be a disappointment if he doesn't get to four. I think four or five feels like, I don't know, probably, I mean, because he's 29.

It's prime as the next what, eight years. It feels like there was, with decent reason, that he was a situation where he's putting more pressure on himself to win number two. Because the overall record was weak and the one win, he probably just felt like, I'm wondering if two freeze him up, right? And this is the part, after every one of these majors that we promised too many majors to the next guy.

And I just, I will say like it, honestly, he's lucky to have two. The way the balls have bounced in the two that he's won, he's had some things around him go the right way for that to happen. He's due for a couple where he gives it a great run and doesn't end up winning as well. Do you want me to ask Neil what he thinks I do run.

We're gonna get, we're gonna check him in the oil and what the over under his for. I think he needs to win a US open or a master's or a British open. Yeah. Before, before the monkeys off, this was still a PGA. Yeah. I think this, this is a different PGA though. If this was Bell Reef, this is different than Bell Reef. This was like a US Open test, I thought.

I would've said the old one was a hundred before we get Niels, I would put it at four and a half. I agree. Niels got it at five and a half. Oh, wow. That's high. I think it's four or four. I think four and a half's fair, Andy.

Yeah, four, probably. No, honestly, I don't know which way I go. I think bones being on the bag is not a small thing as, you know, proved by his two major performances with him now. Yeah, I mean, especially a gust. Somebody said that when I stepped away, but like, yeah, I always think about that quote, like who's going to save, you know, who's going to save a player shot to the gust at, like X, cadadi or bones.

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See show notes for further details. Good reminder, I won 10 bucks. Hey, good to check. Just not get just snuck in on the NLU pool. I did Chad McGee won the NLU pool. He had Justin Thomas, Will's Eleatoris, Matt Fitzpatrick, Neato per Harry, Jesus Cameron, tongue. What? And Tural Hat. Whoa, that's going to. Jesus. Cameron Cung. What?

And Tural Hat. Whoa. That's gonna do it. That's gonna do it. Yeah, that's gonna be tough to beat. Man, God. That's gonna be tough to beat. Great play in there.

I was gonna say this when we were talking some with, with Max. Like it wasn't even close. Yeah, on my 40th. Jesus. Talking about Mido on 18. That shot, and I have hit this shot before. I do that shot a lot of times.

It looked like somebody trying to get it over with. Like when I get anxious for a certain shot, I will get up there quick and hit it just a little fast like trying to get it over with. And that's what it felt like I was looking at. I think the speed at which he, you know, like not, you know, time speeds up, right? When you're in that moment, I guess I'm told.

I know, but, like I definitely begrudge him for that. I don't begrudge him for the shot that he hit though, because he hit the same shot. He'd been hitting it. A few times. The choice of the shot. I agree. Yeah. Yeah. That was bad swing.

Max said it too. Like that's, that's, that's a play. Right. Yeah. It's like, it's like take on the risk at first, like off the tee or take on the risk with your second shot, having 200 plus into that green. And he was not driving it well to start with. So anyone who, like, I was joking about,

obviously hitting seven iron off the tee, but anyone who's, oh, he should hit three wood, he should do this, like, dude, he's already pretty squirly. Like, I don't like to fill it wing foot. He exactly, I'm fine with the biggest club face and try to put it out into the wide fairway and try to keep hitting that same little, like, it almost seemed like it was the reverse, reverse, reverse double cross, right?

Where it's like, I'm trying to hit the really, really, really smart shot. So it's a quadruple cross. And it's just, that's what I mean. It goes straight to that. It goes straight to that. It's a hard one to verbalize, but weirdly, I know exactly what that feels like. You're trying to hit that. No, no, no, no, no, it's a hard one to verbalize, but weirdly, I know exactly what that feels like. Oh, you're trying to hit that like,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, low bullet. You're like, oh, God, that's not the window we're looking for. Yeah, I will say, Mito was fun to watch, man. I was trying to talk to myself into excitement for him, winning, considering like what else was on the leaderboard and trying to will myself into Rory and JT and all these other stories.

But he stepped up and obviously didn't have his best stuff today. But stepped up and hold a ton of pots. A ton of pots. It was the part I'm 10, I think, was the kind of sidewinder one. It was unbelievable. And it's just like... Even the ones that didn't really. Very, very greasy.

Total grease pull. I was going to say, maybe by volume because he left left himself a lot of putts, he made a lot, but he lost a stroke and a half on the field and putting him to the top. So, it, it, it, it, it, it is a good, it's a good, it's a good, it's a good, it's a good stuff. Where on the 18th hole debacle, you know, where, where do you put that in context to some other 18th or 72nd hole collapses that we've seen? I mean, it's not, it's not Phil's career resume and going for the career. to some other 18 or 72nd hole collapses that we've seen.

I mean, it's not. It's not Phil's career resume and going for the career grants and going for three majors in a row. Obviously, there was so much more on the line at Wingfoot, but it's same exact stroke situation. He needs hard. That was my question. Yeah, so he's one ahead and double.

And so this is the playoff. Correct. Yeah, so it is the playoff. Correct. Yeah. So it's the same exact situation. And it's dumb because like, old me, like the, like, cover golf would have just been definitely rooting for that. And then now, like, the more I see it, like, you just are, you're rooting for something exciting

to happen, but when you get that late in it, you're like, shit, something bad's gonna have to happen for this to get exciting and something really bad happened. Like it was, yeah. Which I kind of had in the back of my notebook for the whole week was like, oh man, I don't know the last time we've had an 18th hole like this, like there's disaster, disaster looming here.

And yeah, I wouldn't say it was like a thrill to watch, but in order to, you know, in order to clear the way for, we had to sacrifice Mito for the Zalatoris JT playoff, and I'm okay with that. It was gonna be hard to kind of put Mito winning the PGA in like perspective, because it just like nothing about it really made sense. Obviously, he's an enormous talent.

Obviously he played incredible golf, but it's not like he was necessarily trending towards this, or there would have been a bit of the Seawook him winning the players. Oh yeah, you're amazing talent. Wow. Can't wait to see more from this guy. And then it's like, yeah, I'm probably not gonna think about that too much.

Probably an international team stalwart for the present scoff as well. Exactly. I will say I was disappointed, humiliated by the actions of TC, completely abandoning, abandoning Mito. Just because I invented the guy, it doesn't mean that-

The whole week, oh, meadow, I've been on this guy the whole time. The guys need to apologize to me for me. You're not shouting out meadow, and as soon as KM Young gets up there, you were saying, it's, Daniel, they lose. I'm a banding man!

I'm banding my boy! Yeah, it was disgusting. He's one of them, you know what? I invented it, but that doesn't- It was a lot like the shrimp, the way you treated the shrimp. The great shrimp. Yeah, you just, you could, you kept shouting about it, you wouldn what? I invented it, but that doesn't. It was a lot like the shrimp, the way you treat it to the shrimp. The great shrimp. Yeah.

You just, you could, you kept shouting about it. You wouldn't take them on your Fred X comes. No, that's, I just, you know what? He's good. I just don't, like, I was like, hey, we need to talk about this dude because he's, he's doing it. Like, I told you guys.

Oh, look, he doing it. He's doing it. No, Thursday night I was on you. I said, talk about me, though. Shout him out, shout him out. Aren't you glad I told you to shout him out? We never would have even noticed he was there. He said it without a cue.

I mean, the putty made on 16 was, oh, sorry, no, he missed that one. I'm trying to think which, uh, was it 15? He made a clutch par-a-putt? I think so. No, all right, yeah, yeah, actually 16. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He made 11 putter on 16. Yeah, he made some fucking big ass pots. He just, to solid point, he had it all over the yard. Yeah, he made 11 foot on 16. Yeah, he like he made some fucking big ass plots

He just to solid point. He had it all over the yard. Yeah, he kept he kept, you know, leaving himself on really bad spots to he played a bad round Golf he shot 75 and he was three over for the day going into 18 like it it was not like he it was not gonna be a triumphant March to the finish so but stood up there gate like I said this on Twitter like Everybody's got to give interviews now if you go go, like, first of all, English is not your first language and you, like, self, you know, you, you, you know, admit this yourself. You don't speak English great to stand up after, like, the biggest heartbreak of your career and do a national televised interview. Yep. All, all you got to do it, that's, that's the rule now. Not only that, you got to stand up there and you got to watch that swing that he took

out 18 and see it on video for the first time. Not only that, you gotta stand up there and you gotta watch that swing that he took on 18 and see it on video for the first time. Oh, yeah, I mean obviously you can see this swing is not good. Porter tweeted that it looked like he was getting electrocuted. Yeah, it was tough. Which Rory, Rory skipped media Saturday and Sunday. Yeah. Which like, like Rory, like do better.

It's like straight up. Don't love it. I do want to shout out flip side of that coin Pick and came young to win was was inspired stuff I thought he was gonna do it there as we kind of made the turn got into that that first third of the back nine But you you could kind of see the moment the moment squeeze up on him a little bit those last last Yeah, three holes or so. I remember a few like he missed a short, relatively short birdie pot on the front. And then, um, well, I thought he was, I mean, I didn't know how, what we were going to get. And then he made just a really bad bogey on one kind of chunking that one out of sand.

And then comes back and, and then yeah, he just, he was kind of the best of those four up on top of the leaderboard. Yeah, birdies two. I mean, he had three or four more, like, really, really good looks inside of 12 feet and just didn't go in. He's not a world class putter. He's just a truly a world class ball striker. He putted pretty well this week, but he was 73rd today out of 78 guys on the green. I mean, should if he has one shot back, if he has that approach into 16 back, he just

missed, you know, like just missing a bad spot that you can't miss. And like, I feel like if he has that shot back, he's he's either in the playoff or like winning the golf tournament outright, I think. Talk about a dude that is just like sign me up to watch him play big boy golf courses. I'm in for that going forward. He's going to kick himself because he was six understanding on 13 T, which is par five. And as we discussed, 13 is a green light. 15 was a green light, 17 green light. And he played the last six holes two over. But man, that dude is a supreme talent. He is going to be, I just like going through the data golf

strokes game stuff today and like cracking down. I was looking at nine months, six months, three months. He's been like a top 25 player in the world of the last nine months, top 20 over the last six months, top 10 over the last three months and top six in the last month. Like, it's very, very real. And he might get screwed on the president's cup because the point system is horrible and it goes all the way back to like 2019. And there's a long way to go, but he, I think, should, as of right now, if we were playing,

he would be on that team. Yeah, shout out to the commissioner. That's right. And he kept reminding me to check the score of the baseball game we were playing he would be on that team. Yeah, shout out to the commissioner. That's right. And he kept reminding me to check the score of the baseball game. Yeah, he did great. Can we talk about a role that we got to talk about the four wood that he hit on, uh, what was the first on 13? No, no, it was on five.

On five. Yeah. He was, um, let's see here. He was 287. That was the one that 284 yards out and hits this high floaty forward, goes 287 yards, 18 feet. Which like, I didn't even get to, you know, catch my breath before. Zalator stood up with iron from 268 and dropped an iron on the green shortly after that, too, which we haven't talked about Willie Z yet.

We are day for will overall. I'm curious where you stand on Willie Z. for that too, which we haven't talked about Willie Z yet. We are day for will overall. Really? I'm curious where you stand on Willie Z. Oh, I think I'm all, I got to say I'm all in on Willie Z. I was just getting ready to ask the question, you know, I think it's safe to say is the best player to not win a PGA tour title. Is he the best player, not to win a major at this point? Is he the best player in the world if he took out putting?

That might be the rib. He didn't he didn't like that. That didn't look like a 71 today. First and foremost, best player in the I have to think on that. I know that's a provocative question. And I know he put it all this week. So it's not, you know, I mean, you just got to look at what he's what he does in big spots. I mean, you just got to look at what he's, what he does in big spots. I mean, this guy is say, we don't know. Willy Zee or Cam Smith, as it says, a Cam Smith. I mean, Cam, Cam played really well this week and just putter let him down. Yeah.

Cause he did, like, it was slow greens, right? Salataurus or Cam Smith's, Salataurus or Hovelin. I mean, you're not going to want to agree with this, Randy, but can't lay. No, fuck no. I mean, there's a lot you've agree with this Randy, but can't lay. No, fuck no. I mean, there's a lot you've lost me this week. We're not too, we're not too in that shape. I'm not. It's a good question because obviously,

Zaltors hasn't won a PGA event. So, yeah, but I like, I would take. I'm the one ham, but going forward, like, who are you taking? I, I, I think it's Zaltors, man. 100 PGA. He's shown me more in big spots than the Cam or Cantlay or Hoblin. Hoblin has yet to have a top 10 in a major.

Really? That's that hurts. He has a T13 US Open in 2020. T12, he was a low-am in 2019. It's the US Open, T12, 21 open championship. Other than that, no. He's winning those though as you call him, big dick events on the Euro tour

Stop we can do that later with fit stop You're being caddy stop it. You're being glib. That's what you're being Look we'll get the fits, okay Dude Zalatoris is majors what he's made one, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, five top tens and seven starts or top tens and seven starts. I think it's nine starts now, right? Cause he had a couple, oh, sorry, he had one in 2018. Yeah.

Yeah. So this is, this is another runner up finish for him. This is second solo runner up finish in majors. And yeah, this is sixth top 10. I think what separates like Cam, obviously awesome, awesome track record at Augusta specifically. Will's kind of proven it anywhere.

And I think that maybe is what gives him the nod in my mind, it just like he's like supreme, supreme ballspaker. And when he puts good enough, like he did this week, like he's always gonna have a chance. There's, this is kind of very much stating the obvious, but I think it's worth mentioning it. All the majors at, at this point is, you know,

we always talk about like horses only kind of seem to win these things. Blah, blah, blah, blah. It's so, it's becoming so much more glaring every single major that goes on, like how different the PJ Tories from the majors. Yes. And Zalatoris is the perfect example of that.

Of someone who's, I think it's, I keep messing up the count, but five in the, five out of eight, five, five and eight, five out of eight in the top 10. And one was when he was an amateur. So seven is a pro, and he withdrew from the open championship and he was playing well in that one too. That is insane, man.

That the cream continues to rise. And that's where, again, we'll get to Rory stuff, but like, Rory's in that camp too. And I know he's punting him away. I know he's not getting the results. Yes, he absolutely should have won this week, but he does keep showing up. And that is very much not nothing. And so I'm going to take a lot of shit from my Rory stuff

this week. I just need to get out in front of that block because that's irrefutable. We're going to comment in here. I'm hoping somebody can update us on it that JT just absolutely detonating KVV without realizing he did it. I'd like to hear details on that. We're trying to get KVV on the show. Well, he will. We were trying to, but now he's dead. He's dead. But we're going to get him. He wrote an article overnight talking about JT and Rory missing their opportunities in major championships. Producer Cody is here to tell us about it. Yeah. Checking in. So just coming in from Dylan tweeted it to his credit, KVV asked JT if he'd paid attention to any of the chatter that he'd blown his chance to win on Saturday.

JT said, no, I didn't, but hell of a call by them whoever said it. He's putting cases on all of your bitches. That's really good stuff. That's really good stuff. I like KVV raising his hand. Yes. KVV is perfect to be able to handle this. I've been in this spot where you have something that's going viral that like you're totally

fucked up and I do not handle it nearly as well as KVV will I promise that. And that's what you know what? Get on the block, man. You know, get out there. Put your neck out there. You're not going to, you're not going to bat a thousand. You know, JT was 1.2% coming into today. Exactly.

Like that was a pretty safe column to write. This was a white squall that we, a white swan, whatever the weather term is. Guys, I have a question. Black swan. Black swan. Black swan of it. Black swans are white.

Can you hold one or two? Your question for one second. Just what did we say was how far back was too far back last night? Minus one, it was, we were debating. Okay. Minus one. Yeah was, we were debating. Okay. Yeah, either sit to your one. If anyone remembers, I think we would have said the minus two's were alive, correct?

Yeah, yeah. Okay, just one is your question. Is Roy the best player to like without a major? Or Jimmy Walker? Well, that, yeah. I mean, Jimmy Walker stinks. I mean, he, you know, US open one by eight shots over Jason Day. Like, that wasn't a real one.

Oh my God, we're gonna do this. We had the PGA We're doing it was a real one. He didn't win it birthday. I wonder what her I'd hoi like I mean That was real. That's a real proper golf course Yeah, it was kind of calm that week though. It was kind of dome golf. All right That hollow is a real week ended blue the weekend at blue a little bit Well hollow was was a real was real because it was alpha shit exactly so yeah Same as J.D. He played, it were muscled his way up to eight.

That was disgusting. I'll never forgive him for that. Going back to Cantlay or Dallas Taurus, or like, I think there's something to be said for Cam Smith showing up this week and like playing relatively well here, because this is the first time that he's finished top 40 in a major or in a in a

FPGA. Oh, okay. He's got he's got the three top tens or just by the four top tens in the masters. He's got a T4 in the US open in 2015. He has four top tens of the masters. Yeah, and then he and then he doesn't have a slimmed to feel. He's got a T20 at the open championship or so the British open T33 at the British open and then that's all so it's like I'm expecting him to start stacking up PGA's but it's a good sign for both cam and This PGA specifically that it was a relatively proper set up. Yeah, like he ball striking wise He would have been right there. He just put it like shit all week and I think cam has gotten the software update as well I think we're seeing cam 2.0 or possibly even 3.0. I think Cam's in the cloud.

He possibly. Now he is, yeah, which is where I think, those numbers are going to start changing. He's like VMware compatible, all sorts of things. They're able to put more RAM in. So he's able to, like, he can just go way faster. So, to the Cam, going back to what Max said at the beginning, I feel like Cam's a type of guy who's just got to learn that lesson.

Like, we don't always have to hit it at the beginning, I feel like cams, the type of guy who's just got to learn that lesson. We don't always have to hit it at the flag and try to make birds in some of these major spots. He just seems like a guy that can get really hot and then it leads them into bad spots where he keeps going for flags and then it's like, oh man, that's a bad bogey and then things kind of seem to spiral. I feel like, you know, if he can almost learn to take the foot off from time to time, he could be a very legit contender in all the majors.

Which there's something so cool about Max saying that because I would guarantee if you were interviewing him, you know, a year ago, two years ago, three years ago, like he would have given that answer, right? But yeah, I've read interviews and I've heard people say, you don't have to have your best stuff to wait and blah, blah, blah, blah. But no matter what you know, intellectually, you still have to go through it. And I think that applies to KMT.

He flipped out so many damn times. Every time they cut to him, he was looking out a putt. He doesn't made everything for like two years. I know, but it was as someone that had a little action on him, it was a little frustrating. I just couldn't believe that for you. Talking about Zalatoris a little bit more, I couldn't believe like the left miss.

I mean, it was like left, left, left. Like, can I have the right miss going on there? Yeah, yeah, it was like a, you know, it was the over correction for yesterday. And then I will say, I really, I hats off to Will's Allatoris for refusing to, like he didn't, he didn't walk up to the situation behind the green. We hit it in the bushes, which was like kind of reminiscent

of of Mikkelsen on Florida, Gustav. Yeah. And, and just automatically be like, well, I clearly I get line of sight here. And then like, like, wait into the bush and act like he could hit one. Cause there's a lot of guys on tour that would have done that.

And in a regular PGA tour event, like they would have given that to them. No questions asked. This is the most circumstantial evidence that's imaginable. Just prove it wrong. We need to prove it wrong. We need to convict them on this evidence.

But, Zalator seems like a very real deal. Stand up, guys. The more I hear him talk, the more interviews are awesome. I was kind of trying to, I was trying to talk to myself out of Zalator. Yeah, I wasn't buying though. I was, you know, amongst friends, I was putting out some takes and,

and you know, you helped me find the wall there. You got canceled. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was doing some testing and you guys reeled me back in. I had a great time watching them. I've got, there's a lot of reasons. It's interesting to watch no matter what.

The putting, the close up putting alone, Randy. No, I was just going to say, you know, he continues a long tradition of only major runner-ups being interviewed on the trap draw. Great point. So we, yeah, we salute him for that. Well, I may, John Van DeVell, things of that nature. Do we have any others?

You guys need to get Louie on the pod. Yeah. But he's one. He's one of the alleged. Well, by the others? You guys need to get Louie on the pod. Yeah, but he's one. He's one of the alleged. Well, by the transit property, he didn't really win because it was like Roy's win. He won by seven. Doesn't count.

Guys, I got something to say about his putting stroke. Okay. I think you're gonna try it. You're gonna try it. I think it's almost so bad. It's good. Oh, that's what I've been saying. He's freed up.

Nobody wants to listen to me. He's got the stroke dial. It doesn't matter what it looks like on the way back. He's got to get the position. It's not great. Well, I almost did doing like the the figure eight, like that's good for a man. Like, yes, no, different spots. He's got to get it to and then releases him to the same every time or does he it's got varying speeds. He's got different. He got an off speed pitch. It's got a fast ball. Right.

From different range, he kind of changes this time. He kind of paused the decky style. He does. He does. He's a bit of a face of there's base runners out also. Well, I was thinking about to play quicker on eight when he put it on 18 like. So if he goes to the stretch, it does change a little bit. So many people were definitely watching golf, the Dalton normally watch golf,

saw his plot on 18 and we're like, whoa, go back through why that, rewind that. Some, now everything you guys are saying is it seems super sustainable. I think he's gonna definitely have the rerout. That's gonna be no issue going forward. I think there is. I don't know how it breaks anymore though.

I guess maybe that's more what I'm trying to say. That's actually well said. Okay, I see what you're going to get. Like how is it gonna get worse? I see what you're going to get. Like, how is it going to get worse? It's as bad as it can get. And it's still good enough to win a major is kind of what gives me a lot of hope, I think. I also think that, help me out with this take

because I'm workshopping this one. But losing a playoff in a major is different than finishing second in a major. Like you played 72 holes in no one B.U. And it's going to be a footnote, a little bit that he lost losing a playoff in a major is different than finishing second in a major. Like you played 72 holes in no one B.U. And it's gonna be a footnote, a little bit that he lost in a playoff, but I just think that that's a one, especially tough way to lose a major and two, that's just a little different category.

I like to think it's a... You said, hey, I'm motivated. Like I'm hungrier than ever right now. Like I love hearing a guy, instead of being down, he's got his chin up and he's ready to fucking punch somebody. Let's get back at it. First thing tomorrow. We'll talk about Brooklyn, man. I mean, someone who drives a great and hits Irons great, like Zach and a play, seems like it go well. 10th, 10th this week in Stroke's Game Pudding. Exactly. Willie Z. No, like it takes just to get, like, because that was, I mean, even

college coaches, like weren't recruiting him because he, he, like, his putting stroke was so, so bad. But it's like, where'd he end up going? I never, I didn't care. I didn't care that. No, no, no, but like, it was a concern. That's okay. Uh, no, but it was, it's very much like, like, like, just being in a major championship and contending, can you imagine like the, the mental strength of that much like that must take to have that putting stroke and be able to like that's insane. Yeah. That's like taking my putting stroke and then contending in a fucking major with it. He should have put two punters in the bag like you. I will say he Randy. He is on lock though. He is lock. Of course, we don't like that. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

His putting stroke looks like your Wi-Fi right now is all I'm gonna say. Oh, it's not good. Yeah, I wish he wasn't, I wish he wasn't our mark, obviously. Is Dallas having a moment? I mean, Shout out to the commission.

Shout out to Simmons, too. That's right. We got Speed, we got Sheffler, and we got, we're gonna go investigate next week. The boys are the, the boys are the, a couple of the boys will,

we'll be there in the flesh. All those bad, all those bad golf courses on the east side of the Plex are, are producing some great golfers. Cody, I have something to add. Yeah, yeah, just, I, I just want to, before we get too down, too far down this route,

don't say who's actually going, I'm, I'm afraid of the security situation that I see a greedist at DFW as chief security officer here. I just don't want paparazzi, everybody else storming the gates out from my guy there. This wouldn't be an issue of Southwest and cut their direct into love field,

but that's more of a top of the tractor. I'm not wanting to go to love field. I'm more comfortable going to DFW because the people in Fort Worth love me. They love me. I have to get the hell out of DFW. You knew I was fluted, love. Before this ends up as a trap draw,

we got to talk about worry. Before this ends up on the trap draw, we got to get to the crown prince. Not red or convertible. Exactly. The mixed blinder. Rani, why don't you start? What would you see from the mixed blinder today?

Because I thought he was thawing out, man. You were sweating it, Randy. I should have seen our Slack channel. Our Slack channel was, it was fucking gross. What you guys were doing at midday today after he teed off. I mean, I don't think I sent one message to this lecture. Yeah, it was you guys, Lather and go.

Oh, sorry, we were just, we were just for playing to your tweets. Don't you guys, don't you guys feel like Charlie Brown? I mean, how many times is Lucy going to pull that football away? Yes, I very, very much do. For sure. And yes, of course, everybody can take their victory lap.

It went just the way everybody on their couches said it was going gonna go. Congratulations to everyone who wants to shit on the most exciting player in golf. That's really, really cool. How about the chip? How about the chip on the other side? He's trying to hold it.

He's trying to hold it. He's trying to hold it. No, I'm sick. That was bad. That was really, really bad. Yeah, no, that was a super, we're like, oh, I think he's gonna make this probably. It leaves him 40, 40 feet short.

That was, that was bad. I honestly, I don't have anything to add. I mean, it is what it is. I've said my piece. It just, you know, I feel bad for him. The fact that he didn't make a bogey from like he made all parts from seven to 16. It's very unruly like.

He hit it, he had a lot of really good shots in that stretch and left a lot of just barely below 50% puts and like none of them went in. And most of them were pretty good puts. They weren't. He was robbed on one of them that really, really, really could have gone in. And I think Jamie Weir tweeted it out over the last 27 holes. He missed like 11 birdie puts inside 15 feet or something like that. But overall, like for the week, he put it,

he was 40, 30, gained a shot, but like you just don't win, if you wanna win majors, you need to have a major gain day. Our game week on the green. It's drove it really well today. I don't know, like 13. Any hit at grade? Of course he had a couple aberrations,

the triple and the double. I think he would love to have those five shots back from the par three's yesterday. Probably, I, you know, looking back, I think that hurt us. Really. But, but, and this is where I don't have a defense. Again, like I said, I hope everybody, you know, really, really feels nice and full from what they watched.

Rainy, let me ask you this. A positive week or a negative week for Rory? I think a negative week, I think it just adds to the scar tissue and the narrative. I think it just digs that whole little bit deeper, adds a little bit more pressure. And that's where I will just respectfully disagree. And this is where I need to be very, very careful.

My lawyers are in my ear already to not incriminate myself on the big tone situation. But dude, he's like, he's been convicted on that. Him continuing to show up like finishing second at the master's and finishing what fifth or eighth or something this week. Like, you're not going to convince me that like, this is a bad thing. It's going to click. Majors are really freaking hard to win. There's so many things that need to line up. Like, it's, I think it's another positive week, even if everybody wants to take their, their dunks and, and make fun of, big fun of what we say. I agree, D. I think there's a certain balance in the step and everything.

I hear what you're saying. I think this is the type of week when next year when we pull up Wikipedia and look at his major record, we see the yellow eight and go, oh man, top 10, you know, he's playing really, but I think when you dig in and really get on like a micro basis, opening with the 65, getting that second round in the easiest conditions, guys are gonna get all week and essentially throwing that away, it's a disappointment, in my opinion.

I don't know how it could be a positive. I think it's a disappointment, but it's also like, I don't know how it could be a positive. I think it's a disappointment, but it's also like, I don't know, this plus the Masters, it just seems like the fires back. I agree. It does, and I just, I struggle to, again, like if we're looking at what his baseline is as a player,

he outperformed that this week on a stroke's gain basis on an average basis, like he performed better than he normally does in a golf event. So it's hard to be like, all right, this is a failure. Two, when he's tried to summon his best golf, he has not done that in past years. It is not felt like that. Maybe he does it for one round. But overall, he played a really good tournament.

It's hard for me to sit here and say for somebody that'd be Scotty, Ram, Morakawa. You like, just go down the list of all of the best players in the world. That like, That's taking it out of context though too. Not really. It's like this tournament, he like, if that week, if this week is a disappointment for them,

what is it for those guys? Is where and they get a pass for all of that. We the Scotty missing the cut will be a footnote forever. Yet, and people want to still sit here and say that this was not a good week for Rory. And what I'm trying to point out is trust me, man, I've seen the backdoor top 10. I know what the backdoor top 10 looks like when he's non-competitive all week.

This was not that. Yeah. Don't put this in the same bucket. I know it looked like it. It smelled like it. Sounded like it as he was coming up on Sunday. This was not the same thing. He played really freaking good this week.

And he played really freaking good at Augusta. And there are, I think Randy, like coming into this week was the big monkey. I know I keep saying it all week was like, you got to get it done in that first round. You got to get it done in that first round. I feel like he did. And that is a big positive to take into Brooklyn, where again, just like Zalatoris, like, I think he's going to play really freaking good. And if we keep saying all these guys continue to separate and all these real golfers show up at the real golf courses, then give me the guy who's done it four times. I know he might be a ghost and that guy, that's almost a decade now, but still, give me that guy statistically against Fitzpatrick and Mito and Fleetwood

and all these guys that were kind of knocking on the door today. And I'm gonna get hurt in that regard many, many times and I've come to terms with that this week in that like, listen, if he keeps coming close then that means he's better than most players on the planet. I feel like he's trending. It's going in the right direction again. It didn't feel like that for a long time.

Having said that, he's stunk in certain spots this week. And I hear to acknowledge that. It's got to be a better putter. Yeah. That's, it's just, if you want to win the major, you're going to get a lot of T7s. If you put, like you did this week and you got to escalate the putt, like literally everyone in the top five smoked him on the greens this week. But we've seen him do the non-com non competitive top 10 and we've seen him flat out

miscuts be completely like uncompetitive at majors. And this is not the same guy. We're seeing a guy that is hitting the ball so much better. I think it's probably better than a solo eighth because he was trying to like he was trying to win. His foot in his foot down on the gas on 17 made the bogey. Like easily could have made par there, but if he's not trying to do that or, you know, or birdie,

like it was, it was a top five, top five or top four performance. Again, I think it was, can I interject here? I just have my whole issue though is, he's supposedly the most talented golfer in the world. One of the all-time greats, and listen to how we're discussing this. It's not, he's like an injured golfer in the world. One of the all-time greats, and listen to how we're discussing this.

It's not, we don't talk this way about tiger. We don't talk this way about the true greats. I don't think he's one of the true greats. I think he's in a tear below that. Then we need to like all get on a baseline of what we think Rory is. Because I'm, can I ask you a question then, Brandy? Is Phil a true great? Yes.

Okay. To this point in his career, Phil had zero majors. And over the course of Phil's career, he won 5.2% of the majors that he's teed it up in. Rory has won 7.5% of the majors that he's teed it up in. To this point. So that's fine. They've got different career arcs for sure.

I think Rory can elevate himself to be one of the greats, to this point. So that's fine. They've got different career arcs for sure. I think Rory can elevate himself to be one of the greats, just like Phil did later in his career, but I don't think he's there yet. I don't like, I don't not talking about him like he's one of the true greats. He kind of reminds me of James Winston. Like he's fucking awesome, one of these drives. And then the next drive he comes out and he you know he misses two wide open receivers and he throws like a dog shit interception

and then he comes back out like he throws for 4,500 yards and he's just lighting it up and he's you know he's got a big arm and it's spectacular to watch and then he just probably a massive public sky south Florida and then he just keeps Probably a massive public sky in South Florida. And then he just keeps making these bone-headed mistakes. You're like, how does that happen, man? You didn't see the safety shaded that way. You even have to move. Through it right to him. That's how I feel watching Rory. It's like, how?

Why? But I feel the last two majors, I felt less and less of that as we've gone along. I think I'm with you and most of that. Of course, it's not a huge football guy, but I think I'm with you. Randy, I think I actually agree with a lot of what you're saying, and I don't want to misconstrue myself as thinking like he is one of the all-time greats. I think he is in a tier below, but I still think he's in a tier above most of the little

boys that we see week to week. And I assure you would agree with that. Listen, I'm with you on that. I'm with you. Speaking of, speaking of little boys, I think we got a man to bring in. Oh, man. We heard you got shame. Somebody's ears were burning as we're talking about Rory.

Welcome in KVV. Philus, let me just say good morning. Yeah, let me tell you a quick funny story before we get to JT. So in like 2004, Skip Bayless wrote a piece on this game the night before the sun gave assures. That was basically like Phil stinks. He Can never win this tournament. This is just proof that he has blown it yet again. I guarantee tomorrow He will not get it done and me being like a young Prokosha Skull fan. I was so pissed

I think I wrote like a comment like we say I'll send the author a comment It was like, you know, you're so wrong. Wait. Phil's gonna come back And then I was so mad when when skipped didn't address it in the column the next day author or comment, it was like, you know, you're so wrong. Wait, Phil's going to come back. And then I was so mad when when skipped in address it in the column the next day, like basically just ignored that he had ever had this take. So it's just proof that you either died here or live long enough. Can you give us the, we've only been reading some tweets, but can you give us the rundown of the press conference question? Yeah, so if there's really anybody who doesn't know what we're talking about here, I mean, maybe you guys have already talked about it at length, but last night I wrote a column

that was like, oh, you know, what another missed opportunity for JT and Rory seems clear that they just, they don't have that it thing the Tiger had where they don't shoot themselves out of a tournament and they can grind and grind and grind. And it's really kind of a bummer. And it felt pretty good about the column. It was a good column. It was great. It was good.

It was about four o'clock this afternoon when things started. No, I mean, honestly, I don't, like, I don't want it. I didn't want to make this about me at all, but I felt like I wanted to give Justin Thomas an opportunity to dunk on any wanted, if he had seen the column or whatever. And I was like, this is what you do. When you write something that sort of is even mildly critical as someone, you show up and you take the heat because I think that's an important part of journalism. So I tried to kind of phrase it in a funny way. And I was like, I don't know who would do this, but did you see anything on chatter online about how you sort of blown your chance on Saturday? And he was, did not think it was funny to his credit. Perhaps my

proof that he is a vicious apex predator was like, no, I didn't see it. But and then he kind of stared at me for like a half second longer than the one was like, but whoever did it hell of a call by them Whoever did this we will hunt you down. We will find you No, 100% like congrats to JT. He basically just he became you know He did the thing that I was like always wanting him and Roy to be and Maybe it's sort of proof that, you know, you shouldn't, I'd be in the hot take guys never been my thing. And I think it was not a hot takey column.

It was sort of more of a sad lament. And you know what, that's what happens. Sometimes it's awesome. I mean, I was joking like during the morning with Cal Porter, like, there's that famous story about the Atlanta journal constitution columnist who wrote that before 86, like Nicholas has done, you know, he's probably not good enough to win this master's anymore. And Nicholas like cut it out and posted it on his refrigerator. And then every time he went to the refrigerator during the week, he got more

and more pissed off and it sort of fired him up. And he told us story to reporters and I was like, oh, that'd be funny if that was me. Like, this is the modern equivalent of that. So, but then JD didn't even see it. So, I'm like, it does. Barbara, you believe this? Barbara, can you believe the AJC guy? What do you think of Rory today? Like, like, I think in the context of that column,

like conversely did, like, we just had a long debate about, should we feel positively or negatively about Rory's performance this week? You almost went over to in that column, which would have been sick. It's true, it would have been sick. They had gotten in a playoff when I went into the creek,

and it's pretty tired. What if they got in a playoff and they all bogged every hole? You would have looked like a genius. That's true. That's true. What, I mean, honestly, like, didn't Rory just do exactly what I sort of said that he might do,

which was like kind of teases us a little bit, and then kind of, you know, I mean, he didn't make a birdie on the back nine. You're right. Good call, you're right. I mean, honestly, you know, throwing out, like, the journalistic, you know, principles of objectivity, like, you know, it crushes me when Rory doesn't do well because I want to believe that like my worldview is the right one and I feel like Rory and I sort of share it like empathy and kindness and you know just being sort of a mentioned general

and I think that's true this in sports that sometimes what actually serves you is being kind of a stone-hearted prick and that's sociopathic. That's a reality to sort of have to face. I mean, look, is it harder to win majors now? I think it's probably a good argument, you know, and sort of stepped in a little bit more on Twitter today, kind of trying to explain this. But if you are, I don't, you can tell me for sure that the tour is deeper in general. I believe that. What I don't think that that has an effect is guys backing up on a Saturday.

Like why is JT in Rory shooting 74 evidence of that the tour is deep all around? Now, JT kind of winning from behind in some ways are proof that some of these guys aren't actually like great players to me. But honestly, it'll be, go down as a super fun major to have covered. I'm going to do my best to sort of, you know, write about the drama of the playoff and also like offer up a little bit of a mechopos to JT, but without trying to make this about me in any way. KVV, what like going back to that point about guys backing up on Saturday, I think the counterpoint to that, and I don't necessarily even subscribe to one or another, but just like raising it, is wouldn't it be, like Max was on earlier talking about how, you know, in regular PJ

tour events, at least, you have to feel like you, like the pedal is down. You got to make so many birdies, You got to stay ahead of these guys. You're putting so much pressure on yourself to stay. Basically, to stay ahead of the masses, to stay ahead of all this depth, do you think that that's the macro sense of, oh my god, it's so freaking deep out here. I got to play perfect golf to win this

when that's not actually the case. You just don't need to avoid the big mistakes. Maybe. I guess I could buy that more in regular tour events. I've got to make 10 birdies today, or else I'm going to fall down the leaderboard. Whereas in majors, I think this is proof that 68, we're just shooting, JT shoot 67 today.

300 par is not exactly a score that blows the doors off anybody. And just seemed like yesterday on a day when The course was hard certainly but it wasn't like overwhelmingly hard to wear you know shooting 7172 I think what maybe sort of influenced some of this was like watching Tiger on Friday Where he had you know nothing in a lot of spots. And I don't want to get too hard to about Tiger Never Quits, Tiger Never Gives Up. But what I think Tiger Never does is it never loses focus for those moments when it's sort of like,

okay, well, doubles a killer here. Or if I give myself a chance to make this spot. There's a lot of talk about, well, it's so unfair to compare these guys to the greatest of all about, well, it's so unfair to compare these guys to the greatest of all time. What is it that sports? Do you think anybody in the NBA was ever like, well, he's not my little Jordan,

but that's okay, he's just a nice player. I feel like that's how sports work. It's like if you want to be great, you got to sort of chase the greatest to ever do it. And so I feel like it's a little bit an excuse sometimes to be like, well, just let these guys be kind of good and kind of like, I don't think Morgan GT thought that a long time ago. I'm like, well, I'm never going to catch Tiger.

They thought, yeah, that's the goal. That's what I want to do is be great. And they maybe want to burn out their lives in that sense with a way that Tiger did, but I think that they really wanted to put the pedal down and be great. And so I think it's it's a fair comparison. If you like sports and you follow them in that sense. To to the point about depth as well, I was talking to somebody

offline and they made a good point in that, you know, golf isn't unique in that. They're more good players playing professional golf now than there were in past years. Like every sport has, you know, every sport takes advantage of the nutrition and the training and the technology. You know, you can look at Biggs in the NBA, right? But what makes a guy like Joel and B. He's still separates from the pack. And I think that goes into what we're talking about with some of these guys today. These golfers is that, you know,

just because there's more depth and guys are telling you, like yeah, that's everywhere. Like that's not a golf thing. And I just, I think that's exactly right in that. The whole fun of being a fan is to like see greatness and to have these comparisons and arguments and who was better. And so. But to that, Randy, I, that's like the math still for like MBA, winning a title is still

one out of like 30 teams, right? Whereas now like in golf, it is a, it's doggy dog. Like just you have to climb past the next guy and the next guy on an individual basis. If it was one guy on the MBA, that's where you get to get a little bit like it's not just there's one title every year in the NBA. So one only one guy gets to be the crowned, but there's four majors. So it's a little bit different too in that sense. And you can be crowned in different ways and you can win a couple majors. And it's not quite the equivalent to winning like, you know, for, you know, maybe it's the equivalent of winning three Super Bowls. I don't know what they exact. Well, in now there's nobody like I would argue there's

50 guys out there that can win one instead of 100, right? Like the top guys have kind of separated themselves like, I think the numbers one smaller. Oh, yeah, I can win. Oh, yeah, yeah. But like, I mean, meet a prayer. I'm almost one one today. Yeah, yeah, but then he didn't. I know, but like that very, very very very easy I'm just saying there's there's a lot less like random dudes shaking off. They it's the last five years, right? I think this major would have been a great example of the depth argument had JT come up just short Like had he lost by a stroke and be like oh this tours way deeper so like a meadow Pereira who like a lot of people Don't even know could win a major. And he and JT is great.

Part of the problem for me, and that's just like, JT and Rory hadn't had like the sort of, you know, finish and second, and they just got outplayed by one other dude. It was like they kind of would get in the mix a little bit and then regress. And that was just kind of like, you know, I'm trying to like, say it has some reflection on their character. It was just sort of a bummer as a fan because you want JT and Rory to be great. You know, that's what we,

why we were interested in golf in general, right? We had a big text thread this morning, Randy, KVV, Pooosh and I about just like, talking about, you know, the track man, stuff and all that. And it was really interesting to actually see, like I was complaining a little bit of seeing, like when Gary Woodland won the US Open at Pebble, like you didn't feel like that was ever

gonna slip away from him, because the Paul doesn't spin, the fucking driver faces are massive. Like it's tough to chase in these majors now, but I think also, like there's something to be said for when more variables get added. There's like a lot of these guys don't really know how to play, right? And I think that's why I think it's fucking cool that JT1,

because like he's one of the few guys that like is good on a track man and also knows how to play real golf. Yeah, it's true. And that wasn't true like very early in his career and he admitted like the Tiger did him a huge favor by saying, you don't shape the ball enough, you don't work the ball enough. I was just talking to my like Thomas about that. He was like, yeah, you know, when Tiger Woods tells your kids something, you know, your kid's going to actually take it to heart like, you know, as a dad, you can say like, hey,

you need to shape the ball better. But if he's already great, like, who's going to listen? Well, Tiger can get, get, get, get that lesson across pretty good. So there's an entire generation of ball speed and postures out there. You know, right, which I think is reinforced week to week on the tour. I mean, I have have have major conditions, ever been more divorced from the week to week throughout the history of the tour. Well, shout out to the DJ, PJ America putting the foot, their foot down a little bit in recent years and making it, it's, it's a US open adjacent

test. And it's not always been that way. I wonder if the move to May will help that as well. Right? Like some of these golf courses getting a little more unpredictable weather, not getting just like really, really hot wet weather in Oklahoma during the summer or even like Oak Hill would be so much different in August than it would in May, right? Like there's going to be a lot of, I think, you know, hopefully,

if the Frisco course, the Gill Hans and Jim Wagner Frisco course turns out to be what I would expect it to be. Hopefully that looks a lot more like a major championship, you know, ballbuster test. So yeah, it's great. I also think you mentioned something KBV on Tiger and I know this can sound like a kind of dance throw away, like everybody's friends thing.

But I think we're going to look back on the JT Tiger mentorship as like a massive fucking deal going forward for the next 10 years. Like that's a really, really big thing. Yeah. It's funny. Like he said that Tiger was talking to him last night. And JT was like, yeah, you know, how you do it? And then Tiger was like, well, I was pretty sad because I kept seeing your name

fall down the leaderboard. And it's like, in some ways, like Tiger was kind of teasing him a little bit and getting him sort of, you know, psyched up. And 100% like, you know, sort of learned, I mean, he's learned a lot from him sort of how it's certain shots, but also just kind of how to stay cool and be, you know, be in it, right? I do think that for sure that the biggest thing

that kept him in it is like, he hits a shank on five today and he doesn't melt down. And he definitely thought, he said throughout the round that he didn't, there were times when he hit a baby bogey on three and shanked on five and it was like well I guess this isn't going to happen and that's a kind of pretty honest admission to think but I'm sure you know that part it's part bones right it's but it's also like everything you've learned from the greatest winner of your entire generation that you might just hang in there and guys might fall apart. Yeah I think some of that's going to some of that's gonna seep in,

hang it with the best winner ever at anything. Yeah, I gotta think some of that's gonna take. Which speaking of Tiger, I know you wrote about Tiger earlier in the week and I don't know if we wanna kinda rehash everything that you spelled out. I thought you wrote an awesome column about him. Was that Friday night, I think, right?

After the cut. Yep. Just your impressions, I guess, of watching him in person. We've certainly talked about it kind of at great length, but I'm curious what else you had in the chamber on that front. I just think it's sort of, my point largely was just that you can feel

however you want about this. If you're feeling inspired and hard-o-like this, then great. Because there are times when it's like, wow, this dude really is kind of loving golf. There's this great federal quote from a couple years ago that's like, maybe I just really love tennis. He has to keep asking me, why am I hanging around if I want to, we can't win championships. This is what I've done all my life. And I like tennis. You guys keep asking me like, why am I hanging around if I want to, we can't win championships. And you know, this is what I've done all my life. And I like tennis. And it's okay. It's okay to just do things that you love without, you know, having this

sort of killer mentality. And I think that, you know, there might be some of that in Tiger. Maybe he just doesn't know anything else. And I also think, I'm telling Tom, I was just trying to think there's a part of him that kind of likes the pain a little bit. That he certainly likes being the warrior. You know, he's grown up in this sort of household that was like telling tales about I went through this tough stuff as father and so I'm sure on a level some little tiger thinks like golf engine or his man. The golf engines are buffened. We talk about special forces. We're talking about this last time with Cody. He wants to be Cody. We're talking about the time my dad was pinned down

by enemy fire. That's tough. That's kind of, I think, how Tiger would view it. But I think it's also okay if you look at it and are like, this is sad. This makes me sad because it's not really so much about Tiger. It's about me. It's about my memories of what he was You know, I'm not 25 anymore. I mean, I was 21 when he or no see if I was 18 when he won

His forget one of the masters. I remember it really well in college like kids washing it in their dorms and thinking like wow Like a black. I just won the masters. How amazing is that and it's hard to think about myself as like an 18 year old as a 44 year old But like Tiger's one of the few things that can immediately take me back in that time. And so to see him kind of a little bit broken reminds me of how like kind of old I feel someday. Is it like how much time has passed and that's it. So I would, you know, I would yes to be honest that maybe a no for Brooklyn. I don't have anything to sort of support that other than, I guess, but it just doesn't really make a lot of sense. I mean, that right leg is pretty bad. I mean, it's seeing him kind of,

when he walks away from the cameras and stuff, you can't see where he's like going down steps, it's super ginger. It's like very much like step up to the same step in some ways. And, you know, if I just hope that there's not ever, I mean, I think I heard Cody say this, like the country got all those like exposed rock

and like crookedly, I would hate to see him like take an awkward step and like break an ankle and then, you know, how much more can that sort of, you know, take. So. Got to protect it for St. Andrews, other way. But I mean, I think to your point, like it, it's about the golf, but be like, it's about, it's

about being out on stage for him too. Like, I feel like he needs that. He'd like being up in front of the media, you know, all that. I know you got a run in his room, I'm sure. I know you got to run and do some real boy writing, but we really, really appreciate you calling in and face the music. And I cannot wait to read what's right tonight. That's for sure. If you happen to text with JT in certain months to come,

tell them that I deserve all of the dunking and that I was hoping in that press conference that he might, we might get it like, where's on Shipnock? Kind of like that would be sort of funny. But again, I think it's proof that JT is more of a killer than Roy. He didn't want anything to do with it. You know JT is more of a killer than Rory. You didn't want anything to do with it. KVV trying to insert himself in the story. So thank you for calling in, but we'll do it again soon. All right, cheers.

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Definitely do that. All right, where do we need to go? What are we gonna do? I think one thing with Kat, I've just been struggling with this all week. It's like if Kat, like going back to that Federer quote that KVB said, if Kat loves playing golf and loves like any, and any needs a few more reps

to feel like he's prepared for St. Andrews or whatever, like that's where I can't get over, like then go play, go play colonial, I don't play. I think it's the juice, man. I don't, those events don't have the juice. Don't have the juice. Yeah. For Kat, the action is the juice, you know? It's, I think he, I think't, those, those events don't have the juice. Don't know the juice. Yeah. For Kathy, action is the juice, you know?

It's, uh, I think he, I think it's like the majors, the, the lights are brighter, the grandstands are bigger, the stakes are higher. And again, we were kind of saying it. I don't know if that was Saturday night or whenever we were talking about that. But, uh, I was last night after W.D. But the, if he catches lightning in a bottle at one of those, then 15 goes to 16, right? And that's all he cares about. I don't really think he he's not out there trying to win the heritage. He's not out there trying to win these events that he's literally one 82 times. But I think rocking up at one of those like and working on his game a little

bit, I think that prepares him to like he is trying to win the British open by rocking up at one of those. I just think they take so much out of them that it's just go home, repower, you know, recharge and but if you could. If you get the same amount of preparation yeah and reps without it taking as much out of the tank like you picked the flattest golf course out there. I don't know. I think he would rather be in a cart practicing and getting golf swings in that way. It would be my guess. Rather than all the full ice bath treatment and all the stuff he's got to do.

It looks amazing. He's a masochist, man. It looks so miserable. How do you guys want Southern Hills? What did you guys think it was going to be going into the week and how did it end up comparing to what you thought it was going into? I'll say, I thought it was going to be like a nine out of ten golf course and I think it was about a seven point five, I think, for me, by the end of the week and how did it end up comparing to what you thought it was going into. I'll say, I thought it was going to be like a nine out of ten golf course and I think it was about a 7.5 I think for me by the end of the week.

I think that sounds really fair. I would coastline that. I think weather kind of not boned him a little bit, but the whole, the day where they couldn't cut the greens and I think they probably had to keep things, maybe not. Maybe I just had a misunderstanding of what they were going to do. But I thought this around would be a little spicier. I thought that, especially on the weekend, right? Like when you don't have to worry as much about

pace of play and getting guys around, I thought they would put some more teeth into it. But I still enjoyed watching it. I thought there's a lot of really, really interesting holes on the back line. I think good litmus test is always like, how well can you remember the holes after a week of watching them? And I feel like I could spell them out pretty well. You remember the holes after a week of watching them?

And I feel like I could, I could spell them out pretty well. You know, you remember where the par-5s are, where the par-3s are? What's going on on on 18? That's too far right. That's too far left. blah, blah, blah. And I had a, again, kind of going back to the majors separating themselves. I think the golf courses play a huge role in that.

And I had exponentially more fun watching this golf course than I do watching the PJ tour most weeks. And you know, it wasn't a, it wasn't like what I think a Pinehurst is going to be or what I think LACC is going to be or some of the courses that we have coming up. But I think 7.5 is a very, very, very good assessment. I would coastline that. That's not grading on like a six is bad scale. Like a lot of people default like six out of 10 sounds bad, but like, don't scale it if you will. Zero is bad. Yeah, I mean, you know, the alternative, yeah, like a three or four would be belray if you want to get in. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I think it's the greens being spicy to bring the surrounds more into play. I thought we'd see a lot more of the slow trickles.

Like, oh god, he just caught the wrong side of that slope. And now it's going to roll for the game. I turned to Salle after Rory hit it past the pin and then rolled back down. Like on 17, that was a really good pin on 17 today. And guys having to deal with that shaved bank and all that. I thought we were going to see more of that in play on like chipping up and having to worry about going long on something or ball spinning back

or whatever. It just seemed like the slower greens definitely played a part. I don't think slow greens are necessarily a bad thing, but also like I do think that they probably were a tad slow that they took out some of the, they just made the course a little bit they took out some of the, they, they, they just made the course a little bit more vanilla as far as the greens go. I thought the Part III's were like really, really boring. Yeah. Like, like, more, like, more variety day to day, more mixing

up, you know, like, they need a short one, they need just more variety as far as distances go. I like nine and 10. Like there's some really good medium length par fours on that golf course. And then I like the two par fives are good that finishing stretch is great. Yeah, like I would say I think 7.5s very, very, you know spot on. Randy, what did you think? I enjoyed it. I don't have any disagreement with what you guys have said. I think honestly, sorry, this is not a joke, but I wish they would shave down some of the rough in spots to let the ball even roll more into hazards.

Thank you. That's something I always think about from your take set at other places. Shout to travelers. Come on, shave that down on 15. Yeah, it would be the only thing I'd add, but I thought it was, I thought it was a very good major test and challenge. Can I ask you a couple of questions?

We did this with the PGA championship the other night. You know, would you rather play, would you rather have this or would you rather have that? Let's do the US Open courses real real quick. We're going through these very quickly. Torrey Pines or Southern Hills. Southern Hills. Of course. Southern Hills. Wingfoot or Southern Hills. Southern Hills. Of course. Southern Hills. Wingfoot or Southern Hills.

Southern Hills. Southern Hills. Pabble or Southern Hills. Pabble. I'd say Pabble. Pabble with, we need a little more spice than we got it for the US Open, which I know is not part of the question, but like, the spice this week helps show off a decent amount of Southern Hills.

Still more fun to watch. But this wasn't even spicy either. The wind though. I'm saying like some wind and we just didn't get wind at Pebble. Chinatown or Southern Hills. I'm going Chinatown. Chinatown. Aaron Hills or Southern Hills.

That's a tough one. That is a tough one. I got I wish Aaron Hills would get other chance. I don't remember anything of Aaron Hills. I miss all of them. We played there together. Wouldn't that. Yeah, and I actually, I'm bad at remembering golf.

But I didn't watch much of the open when Brooks won there Oakmont or southern hills oakmont oakmont. Yeah, Chambers Bay or something. I don't think that's No, you guys have not played Chambers. No, I'm saying I think it's Chambers. Oh way in on chamber. It's fucking sick Pine here's number two Pine here's for me. I think yeah, yeah, but I think pinehairs can learn a little bit from Southern Hills. I do think there was, there's something to be said for the end of the grain, keeping the surrounds,

not fuzzy, but just a little bit longer to wear, like you can't force it guys. You can't putt, because I don't wanna see Martin Kym or puttingt from everywhere. What Pinehairs can get away with is there's, some of those slopes are so severe that you can make it Harry and the ball is not gonna stop on it That's true, but it's gonna prevent you from be able to put through it with ease. Yeah to your point

So you want people chipping over that stuff I think they can do that a little more than they maybe didn't yeah because I think I feel like the last time They had it there it was it was much more like it was still growing in and I think all this all the stuff off the fairways Is gonna be much more like it was still growing in. And I think all this all the stuff off the fairways is gonna be much more grown in and much more like a slight penalty versus, you know, it was not a penalty last time it was there. Three more before we get back to the level.

Marion or Southern Hills. I think I'm taking Marion's, but Marion, I need to maybe I need to, I remember Marion being very weird, but it was a super weird setup. I'd like to see Marion and a non-Mike Davis setup, just like Shinnokok. Olympic. I don't have a hill.

I don't have a hill. And congressional probably throw that one out because we haven't seen the way we do it yet. Same with Olympic. Like they're going to, they're about to redo that too, right? So I think Southern Hills holds up pretty well. Quick plug. Watch the women's KPMG this year.

Is that congressional? Exactly. We're an early look at it. Shout out to Gill Hans. I have to have a moment. Literally everywhere. He didn't do congressional. Watch the women's KPMG this year is that congressional exactly early look at it shot at the gill hands I He didn't do congressional. I thought you know that's right. Sorry and and our He did another like my bad. I just assumed it and our favorite zookeeper Keith Foster. That's right RIP

It's not actually dead, but he did it's bad shit. You can Google that Where did you want to get did somebody were you getting ready to say something, Randy, sorry? No, I don't think so. Did you want to talk about anybody? Randy, I'll give you some props. You, you called out Chris Kirk in your picks this week. Seriously.

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Yeah. Good. Good bounce back from Tom Hogi. He had three rounds at par. Or better this week. He looked like he shot himself out of it after a brilliant 66 and round one. It looked like he just ejected, but fought back. Which one of you guys is buying all the Tom Hogi stock?

Oh, it's really good. He's really freaking good, man. He's checking, he's checking the two point-offs. I know, man, that's a watch this space. That can be a good one for Colonial next week. Listen, is Hose going volatile? Yes, but check back in five years, and I promise you will not regret it. Guys, only one guy in the entire field play got better every single day. Oh, I always love this.

Is it Tommy? Maybe it is. It's probably 71 70 69 67. Solid, give me some, some strokes gain stats on Tommy. What do you want for his week? His window was like, you guys haven't talked about, he was texting me. He's like, you guys haven't talked about it yet. I was like, I know I'm gonna ride for you. On watch. 30, 30 driving.

16th and approach. 15 around the green. 17th putting. Very well around. Yeah. Tommy's coming guys. Nobody would, nobody would, that would make nobody happier than me. I would love to see that.

But again, you guys can't speak out of both sides of your mouth with the word. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no minus four because I know what you're saying and I don't want to be party. That Tommy is not coming distancing yourself from TC. I let's not hope he does. Tommy at the old course would watch, man. Tommy Brooklyn seems like a great fit. I'm I'm with you. Tommy at LACC. However, you got to you need to your takes are going to be meaningless unless you

show a little humility here and point out. Tommy has stunk largely. Hey, I staked him this week for top five. He finished T five. That is not what I said. I put my money where my mouth is. I put my nuggies where my mouth is. But you have to just a hair of empathy for our side of the argument here. Listen, I will never forget the five or six iron that Tommy hit in Abu Dhabi into the wind into the sun

It sounds like you might because you don't remember what he hit you're on our no further questions We haven't talked about spits yet DJ. I know what you're saying this makes our are I hate I hate the optics of this But I am with you. Thank you. I appreciate you reach across. Yeah, they already are blocking our you detonator of voting block We typically have what do you want to say about fits? I mean fits was in it all day We got to talk about him. He shot 73 like he you know, we got it. We got to talk about fits I was you know, I think I picked him as the the guy who was gonna emerge from that pack last night and win as soon as I saw him chip and crosshanded for the first time, I reminded myself that maybe that wasn't a great idea.

TC, again, I'm not trying to be glib, I'm not trying to be chippy, claimed multiple times on multiple platforms today, that he had a number of, quote, big dick wins, which is not true. TC is not true. It's not true. It's not true.

And this is where I think the confusion is. So all I know we're talking about this, I don't doubt that you think they're big dick wins and that you consider the big dick wins. But again, on the European tour, he's won the season of ending. He's won the season ending event twice. Sure.

Like Moracal was in the field, Rory's in the field, Hatons in the field, like Ron is being won over. P goes over for that. It's like saying Neil Neil got a big dick with a tourist sauce last year because it's a big deal to us. That doesn't mean it doesn't. It's the second biggest tour in the world.

You just named out five, but it's crazy. Those five good players separated themselves from the the firemen and plumbers that they're playing in the field. No, come on man. Thank you, DJ free. I don't even have to do this for what? I wanted so nice. I wanted back to back. I'm telling you, it's extra day. Everything's relative. He's a fucking proper player. He's a proper player.

He is a high four. Huge. He won two Omega European masters. Again, means very little to me, but really, really. The Omega, dude, a ton of big names of cut their teeth at the omega name to Sevens the place Rainish pump house off of 18. That's the stuff of legend. Oh, it's some of us are smashing the savvy button You know, they're out of their out of options these dipshit say when he went in the water These dipshit were saying they were talking it up. They're like, oh, yeah, it of, they're out of options. These dipshit's, they went in the water. These dipshit's were saying, they were chalking it up. They're like, oh yeah, he plays a lot out in the desert.

He doesn't have to deal with water. Exactly. That was DJ, that was not the, I'm a big Matt Fitzpatrick fan. I, he's a strokes game, Menace. I top 10 of them all the time. His lack of wins on the PJ Tour at this point is a, it's a topic of conversation. Of course.

It would only be fair. If you are, if you are racking up big dick wins on the your tour and you're playing, and you are playing this many PGA tour events, that should translate. If those your tour wins mean anything, that should translate. I might start coming up. I might start calling them Don Keated.

You know who's racking up? Terell Haddon's racking up big dick wins, and then he comes over and wins Bay Hill, you know? It's, and he's not in this conversation. I just want to say the OWGR, which loves the European tour, says his third at the memorial was worth more than his win at the end of the C.A. Masters. I'm not, I never said that the end of the C.A. Masters was a big. Guess what?

The Omega European Masters below that one. No, it's a legacy win. It was a lot of guys. Two of those. A lot of guys get turned off by the Omega Masters because that course is funky. It's a true like the real one show up. And it's the Swiss Open.

It's a national open. Yeah, again, you love that. Yeah. No, I'm not taking how you feel about it. I'm not, I'm not cheapening that. I'm just trying to bring in the rest of the world in on how we feel about it. He's not I'm not cheapening that I'm just trying to bring in the rest of the world in how we feel about it He's got a solo second at Bay Hill like he only does well in

Invitational which elevated events which is awesome, which is awesome Which is why I had high hopes today and and is a great top five top see like he was kind of holding on for dear life a little bit today I will say DJ I would apply what you said about Rory with you know This is a good week a step in the right direction. I think we can apply that to Fitzpatth. Yeah, here 100%. He's the guy that's, you know, swing changes

and really seems to be playing better. I'm excited to see more of him. He does need to win. I wish I could shake your hand. He will win. He will win too. And he's a better player. He's the best, he's playing the best golf his life.

He's gonna be a force going forward. I'm willing to stake that. He just works as ass off. Yeah. And swing-chained just clicked like really, really freaking quick. I didn't realize he had braces. Yeah. Where's a nut in sketchers?

Lot of coming on there. And you guys have braces? Oh, I had braces. Yeah. All of you had braces? Oh, yeah. Wow. Oh, I had braces. Yeah, all of you had braces. Oh, yeah. Wow. Oh, sorry, Mr. Perfect. Yeah, braces probably aren't a big thing over in the UK. Are they?

Or just such a cagga. I've been to need stock this right now before we go. No, they have bad chick. That's like their thing. That's a pretty safe take. I think that's, you know, I don't. Ross Fisher needed some braids. All right. All right, Pete. what a drive by and Ross Fisher. Anything for hamstered him? Oh, yes, he's Paul. I'm sorry.

He's great. Again, I think the PGA in America is Paul. Yes, we've seen how much better CBS has gotten in week to week PGA tour stuff. So I'm gonna lay this at the feet of the PGA and the fucking 85 people who are standing there waiting to pass out the trophy. I got to imagine that it takes, it takes a bit to pay, pay for all those people.

So the commercial load was inexcusably bad. It did not feel like we were watching a major for most of that. I would say. The guy that won the major today, he was played on tape delay on the 71st hole of that tournament. Good stuff. While they're in the playoffs, again, while they're in unscheduled airtime, they squeeze in a commercial after they tee off. Instead of like building up the in the playoffs, again, while they're in unscheduled airtime, they squeeze in a commercial after they tee off instead of like building up the championship that you're covering, like they kind of blew it on, like building up, like

Zalatoris's putt from the fringe, like if that would have gone in, that would have all like, they barely covered that. They're just trying to chase their tail. Too much stuff. Just trying to catch up. I was, I was, I was, I was, I do have something to say tonight. I was really upset that they went to playing through during the whole Salatours drop situation on six, which is so dumb. I can't hear it. Like that's continued to show it. Yeah,

exactly. It's the point. granted Randy. That was a 12 minute thing. Like they've never like I don't think they went 12 minutes without going to a commercial the whole the whole week. Yeah. That's that's not going to happen. I do I will vociferously

shout out the ESPN coverage in the positive. It was absolutely phenomenal. Great talent on the board. Great, you know, great production. The whole thing was locking you in, making you feel like you were watching a major. And CBS, by way of the PGA of America, I would guess.

And what seems like a really bad TV contract commercially is it's just a very stark. This is not seller-shyze fault. Yes, exactly. But the great news is we are, we only have eight more years of the contract. Sweet. By the time Freddy's ready to take over, the NAU podcast will... So Freddy will be 13.

Yeah, he'll be ready by then. Okay. Juan Tiam Lang made the cut when he was 13. I heard that too. That'd be an indictment on you. Wasn't he 14? He was 14. Well, so it's the first year of the new contract. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Cody, what are people fired up in the comments? What have we not covered yet? One of more hamster, damn. I think people are looking for a little Ricky love. Your guys' thoughts on how he played. It's a Ricky, you know. Randy Randy wants you to go ahead and get some Ricky and we going 71, 70, 71, 70. So it's nice to see him back in a little bit of form. Randy, you want to take this one? It's one of the best parts in the world.

He looked like Mike Gundam. Someone, I think this is only for the real one. Someone said he looked like Butch Vig, guy of the drummer from Gar garbage. Look it up. It's, it's an exceptional take that I just needed to recycle. Randy, I'm sorry. It was. No, I just, I love how far we fall in when a tie for 23rd in a major is, you know, come on.

That's been the story for a while now that he has fallen far. Like this is not the same conversation from when, you know, he was constantly top tenning and you were shitting on him. He tied a guy that got shot in the head. Aaron was. I, I, I, I, no credit for Ricky, you know, I, you're relevant. Next question. Listen, if you go for it, if we're doing positive negative, seems like a positive hope,

but I think we're going to probably need to stop. A positive for him. We're going to need to probably stack up a couple more. Yeah, yeah, truly I don't care. I, I, I, we don't care. Bit my tongue on live stuff all week because it's major championship weekend. I didn't want to do it. If Ricky goes and plays live, I'm going to have a big, big, big problem with that with all that the tour has done for him.

Grant Thornton pushing the Grant Thornton money out and putting them on Ricky tour live every week. That was, that I'm going to put my hand up on that one. I'm out of a big issue with that one. I think they're not that I disagree with you, but I think their counter argument would be like, whoa, there's a tour need needed Ricky for all that stuff. Who else are they going to promote? We're, we're their biggest asset.

We got to be out there. And I think there's probably some truth on both sides, but I would. It was a mutually beneficial arrangement. It was. It was. Yes. I'm with you though. That it would be a stinky move.

I think Ricky, he's what? He's up to 111th in the FedEx cup now. He was 125th going into this week. OWGR wise, this got him, let's see here. It's not scrolling. So what's scrolling? Yeah, he's still way under 100, but he's moving in the right direction again. Kim Smith, that's a third.

I know, how about that? Leap frog, more in Kawa. I was disappointed in Abe today. Yep. 73, he shot even par, nine par on the back nine, just four bogies on the front, to one birdie, not great there. Shamest power.

I think that's his first top 10 in a major. Yeah. I would think. You know, big step forward. That's how it happens. Not saying that he's going to go, you know, rattle him off, but, you know, top 10 in a major is no small thing. Shamest power is also 35.

And I didn't realize that. It was a second. Made it to me that you're disappointed and able to 73, but give Mattie fits all the props in the world with it. I didn't give them a prop. I didn't give Mattie fits props for his. We were talking about. He's not even the best fits Patrick. No, it was the 73 and the second round in the Raza. I'll come. I open it really is what's. You didn't see it. You did see it. he was up late a night. Oh Yeah, Fitsy played well this week. I think you know

Yeah, he didn't have a great day today. He clearly didn't have it But you know, I'm not gonna be grudge him like crazy. He's like But a little I will Fitsy's punching above his weight. Yes He's playing good golf. I've said this a couple times throughout the week. I think we as a group probably, a more golf world tends to lump, zander and can't lay together. Very, very, very different players in the majors. And again, just want to point out,

zander T13 wasn't in contention, would still love to see him in contention more, but the dude shows up in majors and that cannot be said for can't lay. I want to say on one other note on hamsterster dam the bringing walking Neiman in to talk about me. That was where I was like badly needed. I didn't realize it to that.

I just felt nothing towards watching me know try to win this until that happened and talk about their relationship and then kind of showing walkings reaction and mother playing 18 like that was that was very real. That was that was good ship from CBS. I agree. Big week for florals too. I got to give props to Amanda Renner. She did great jacket crushed it with that hoodie today Big tones jacket yesterday was dope. Yeah really really big week for florals

It was it was top it was tough to see Rom wearing the tropical themed shirt on on a very non-tropical day on Saturday Well, you know load of to mid fifties. Lucas Herbert acquitted him well today himself well today. 71 T13. Davis Riley, great week. We talked about Matt, we talked to Max.

Team Rose T13, DJ, you have anything to say on that? You know, I only had space in my brain to follow one team Rose this week. You know, my head's out at out of Grey of gray hawk hit the women's NCAA championship. Where team rose is dominating last last week here. Do you wanna apologize for big shot Bob finishing the second to last? Yeah, we're monitoring that.

That's not great. That's not great. Can I read back a quote that I think it was maybe Randy past the log saying the Ryder Cup team. And what was it, Randy, four years or six years was gonna be exclusively Scottish? That's what we were hearing. But you, I did not go sign that one.

That's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. No, it was DJ's caddy. He was the one telling us that. No, well, in the basement of Molly Malone. Sure, and he was entitled to his take. I certainly didn't pass it along to the masses though, the way you did. Can we go down the border a little bit more? Sure.

I'm purely telling people what I heard in Scotland. Taylor Gooch, T20. If we're gonna go down the board and just read names, you need to give like a one word description or something about these guys. Sam Burnt. People can look at the leader board themselves. I need a take.

I need a take. All right. Sam Burns, disappointing weekend. Stu Sink finishes unfinished business. Officially got to top 40. Web Simpson, bad outfit. Well, no, JT, you can't wear that shit and win a major. Like you can't do that.

If you're in contention at all, you can't dress like fucking Jimmy Walker or Web Simpson and win. Like the black shoes and the black hat and the bad pants, like you just can't do it. Shane Lowry, I think he's gonna circle this one as like a missed opportunity. See if he should havery, I think he's going to circle this one is like a missed opportunity. See if he should have been. God, he should have been the.

Shane Lowry, Shane Lowry at Brooklyn, sign me up, baby. Aaron Wise, RIP, uh, shot 71 70. I don't know that. Don't. Don't you get shot the back. We didn't even talk about speed to this point. Not even one. I don't want.

I truly don't want to talk about speed. 74th and putting that's the only thing I want. It's not good. I don't want to speak to this point. I don't want to. I truly don't want to talk about speed. 74th and putting. That's the only thing I want to say. It's not good. I don't want to talk about it. But, uh, Sally props to you. Baba, T30. You were very, very surprised yesterday. Just missed him immediately last night.

He's not good in majors. I'll say it again. Uh, Audrey Arnose, uh, faded on the weekend. A guy who's won some big dick events on the year of the show. He has to. A lot of us burned weed's figure. Uh, can I throw a discussion topic out or just I put this together earlier kind of when we were talking about, you know, majors and winning and percentages

and Rory, but I just why I listed I threw seven guys together and how many major like the majors they've played in and how often they've won. Tiger, what do you think Tigers winning percentages in the majors he's played in? Uh, yeah, that's a good guess 16.8%. He's a man. Phil is 5.2%. Ernie 3.8%. Brooks 12.5%. Rory 7.5. Speed 8.1.

JT 7 point seven. Phil and Ernie have, like, you know, aged and probably played some of the majors past their prime. Their olds. And the rest, I can get Schaeffler for you. There's 160%. We'll set guy to follow back on Adria and House.

He has one European tour win, the Catalonia Championship. And then he has one challenged tour win, the Ross Alcourt. That's a challenge tour grand final. Sheffler's 9%, he's one for 11. So, just, I found that interesting. In terms of, I feel like we have kicked Roy

for a long, long time and overall four major stands. Exactly. Yeah. Keep the faith, brother. I think there's nine post-World War II players. Maybe there's 12. I tried to count them earlier. The guys that have one more majors than he has.

What about post 9-11? That's true. Post 9-11, that would be Phil Brooks's Tidem Tiger. And that's it. They're one more than him. There you have it. 2C want to talk about Cooture Fade of the Weeked.

73 73 that's not going to get it done. That's not good. That's not P Fade on the weekend. 73 72. Pastor Troy another made cut at a major stream. It's showing. It's 60 70 today finished T 41 with a 67 on Sunday.

Hoveland 75 70 70 70 75 70. Not good, not gonna get it done. Yeah, can't have it. I hate to see I'd hate to see Vick go the way I can't lay. I don't want to see it. You and me both. Rob T 48. Yeah, do we want to talk about anything about Ram?

Other I mean, I know we've kind of talked about it through the week. It's Randy, I'm losing the faith. It's a bit of a bummer to say that, but it's, this is a very disappointing year. It seemed like everything was lined up for him to kick the goddamn door down. And we just haven't seen anything even close to that.

It happened. So I would like to issue a soft apology. Year's not over yet. We've got a lot of big events left. But of course, I would be pre-approved for an apology on that one. I don't want to get into looking for an apology. That's really big of you. No, I don't want to give him an apology.

I'm going to stop this from transmitting on the, on the, on the, on the, on the internet. He's the defending US Open Champ. Femuse Open Champ one, two, like, to Randy, like a T3 where you played really great and a T48 are the same thing. So you like don't apologize now because his take when he was T3ing that was that he was not good. That's a good point. And I will reiterate for anybody. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,asing. Uh, but, but I didn't play the beautiful games. No, he doesn't play the beautiful game. He's a bruiser. He's got, you know, he's got a sizable backside. He's just a big meaty guy.

Who did you compare to Todd coffee? Todd coffee. Are we judging a fucking runway model or a golfer here, man? God, no, I just, I just don't find his game all that attractive. And I good, but he's just I he done do your swipe and left All right, if we're shitting all over Ram, we have to we have to talk more kawa and two more kawa has it like roms won This year more kawa hasn't more kawa's last win was the DP world championship in Dubai Mathets magic is a two-time champion of'm going to pin this one to you. Randy for better worse. You know, if you're going to shit on everybody, like I said, 155 guys lose

every week. It's very easy to be on the everyone sucks. Uh, bandwagon. I'm pinning. I'm pinning more. How do you for better or worse? And this week, I want him. This one. Please. This week's tongue. I think he's, I think he's the best player in the world. Is he a track man go for that? He might be. That's what we're trying to assess. Listen, when the facts change, I change, uh, we're monitoring the situation, but I love calling and he's 120% of the majors he's, he's ever started. So where does that ring, Sully? Pretty good. But if he picks off all the majors, if he picks off all the majors

with no conditions, we got above them down and not, right? I mean, I'll say this. Call him or call us the same amount of majors as DJ and JT. Sure. Yes. Of course. Of course. He's awesome. But DJ had to play again. Please pin him to me. DJ had to play against Pete Kat dog. For a lot of years. I just want it's a true watch this space. And I think you guys are intertwined going forward. I'm happy for that. And I will happily say extremely disappointing week this week. I would never say anything to the contrary. You guys concerned at all about the international team for the president's cup?

That terrified it. Like Mito under pressure. Really? All those guys hanging out in the parking lot waiting for them? For sure. They were finished very early. Yeah, I saw that. Spashton, Munoz, knocking me.

Yeah, they didn't seem to have very late tea time. The Saturday. Can, leash, J.D. I thought that was the SGL Wilk and me part. Possibly. Are you concerned that the guys that fit it don't have a team? It went one, two, three Americans and two of them have, or have not played on a US team yet. That's the thing.

I honestly think some of these guys on the US team should put their hands up and say, like, yo, like, give my spot to this guy. Like, I want it. Like, we need to keep, you know, cultivating this depth. Cody, I didn't even think about that. Straight up, there might not be an international president's cup team. If all those guys go play live golf events, BJTW is not going to let him. I didn't even think about that. Straight up, there might not be an international president's cup team. If all those guys go play live golf events, honestly, the future tour is not gonna let them.

I had not even, I had not, that had not crossed my mind, dude. And that's, I said this week too, about UPS pulling logos from Lee, Lueswood, but Louis didn't have it either. Exactly. I know. Yo, where you at, Louis? I'm pretty quiet on it, but kind of signaling, he gone. Man, that's sick. They might shut them out at quail hollow. If they lose like half the team, they're definitely will win by Saturday. That would take a victory lap on that.

For your, no, the president comes to be fucking sick, dude. The president comes to be no, I never said that. I'm not going to shit on it because team golf is great. I'm ignoring. I'm ignoring. If they do, if they do that, you know what they should do? If there's no, if there's no international team that has any chance of winning. I already agree. I know what you're gonna say and I agree. They should put the Korean women.

Yes, I knew it. Let them play from ladies to put the Korean women against the US men and let them do it out. That'd be fucking awesome. What would watch? Solid, you wanna apologize for Hadecki? I did, I'm gonna try that. I did. He did. Yeah. Yeah. Hoshino tied him. How cool is that? See what a good, what a good example of man, I'm watching

the broadcast. I'm looking for nuggets. You show that guy make, you know, make birdie on the last to make the cut. I'm invested in the rest of the week. It was great. Yeah. Anything where we've we've missed from the week, Cody. No, pretty thorough rundown. The only thing that I'd add about your guys' opinion on Southern Hills is Do you think it will come back at all and then you know just coarse setup? Why's I agree with everything that you guys said the one thing that kind of stood out to me was the sand and how big of a factor It did play this week and and kind of the shining light that have brought out about some kind of people who are and kind of the shining light that are brought out about some kind of people who are spoiled playing perfect conditions all the time.

There's a little bit of adversity thrown in front of them and they melt. I think the sand, that's probably, I mean, grainy, he shouldn't have been in there in the first place, but Cam Young, like he probably goes on to win that golf tournament. There's normal sand in those bunkers. And that's another, to the maturity of JT,

at a different phase in his life, that his reaction to those bunkers might have been's another like to the maturity of JT like at a different phase in his life that his reaction to those bunkers might have been very different. Yeah. And I'm surprised with that curve ball thrown in that he's the one that emerges out of all this. But yeah, I wish Cody Tyrion comes back. I think it comes back. It seemed like it's a lot of a lot of a lot of levels. Crowd noise was just okay. And that's where it's hard to know, like, you know, this isn't meant to be a shot, but I mean, the things go back to Hazelteen and Ton because not because it's some great golf course, but because they draw like crazy from a corporate standpoint, from a ticket standpoint. So it's hard to know any of that stuff, like the week of, and that's clearly what makes

the decisions. But I mean, I test from afar, it looked like, it looked like you're eight week. Would happily go back to Southern Hills. It seemed more lively today too, with the weather being normal. I mean Cody, what was your impression of like the Tulsons? Yeah, I loved it. I mean, it was pretty easy when I was being escorted around basically everywhere I need to go by the one and only Mr. Bunky Kepurkin.

So, you know, he's a celebrity. People are going, yeah, Bunky, Bunky, Bunky. You know, so it was, it was good. I thought there was a lot more people out there than I expected. A lot more people drinking a very expensive booze than I expected. But overall, I mean, it kind of sets up for it. There's not, there's only one place for real big grandstand. And that's on, you know, directly behind one in 10 T.

I wish that we, you know, that they would have removed the rope and kind of had people funneling in behind 18 as they did in previous years. But overall, what you don't see is like, where all the big hospitality stuff is backed by where were six, eight, nine kind of wrap around. And it was packed back there every single day. So I thought it was good. It's hot. there every single day. So I thought it was good. It's hot. I know like they moved it from the move from August to May helped a ton, but man, Tulsa is still very, very warm. So good on them, good on the city of Tulsa. There's a lot going on there, and I can't wait to see it back. I can't wait to go check out Oral Roberts, Randy with you.

Oh, that was impressive. Robert's Randy with you. Oh, no. Oh, that was impressive. Teas and peas never mind. We can say that for the trap. I do want to say one thing. Do we need to put the PGA club professionals on blast? No of them made the cut in their own national chamber. Well, it's because TC kicked out all the tour pros that are now faking their way as PGA pros. And none of them made the cut. We love all the tour pros that are now faking their way as PGA pros and none of them made the club. We love all the playing field in solid. I think there's all the speak for themselves. That was this course was full time hitters only.

Yeah. As they're big going off. They're trending towards so. I wish I could have been a fly on the wall for the the Horseshoe co-crack pairing today. Like those got like, does Billy try to convince you like a true crossfire. No Billy, that's helping Billy's case that the tour is too big. People leaving, he wants less people with tour cards or less time.

Yeah, but I can see him say, like, how could you not be happy here, man? You know, we neither of those guys seem like they want to be like, you know what, you're right, man, I hadn't thought about that. Yeah. I was doing some research for next week and I popped up the Schwab website or proud partners at Schwab.

And there's an entire hospitality village named after Cocrack. It's like, oh, because it's a defending chair. Not fit together. Hogan, Nelson, Cocrack, what are we doing here? And clear water. Maybe they have a gambling like a black jack. That'd be a blackjack or hold him or something. I hope you're very self-aware. Who knows what game co-crack is playing. But quick shout out on the way out here. We've been doing, you know, a little run down to the NCAA championship after we put out our our Stanford video last week,

which is again been been very, very well received. Thank you to everybody who watched it. Thank you to everybody who who reached out. Thank you to Max for shouting it out as well. Stanford is separating. We've got one day of stroke play left. They are nine shots ahead in the team standings. And our girl rose team rose. Seven shots ahead of second place. Two people tied it at 200 roses nine under. So we have one more day of stroke play tomorrow, which will be, which will crown our NCAA champion. Randy, I believe that is on television on the golf channel.

And then we get into the top eight teams, make it into match play. So, you know, one gets seated in match play against number eight, two against number seven, and so on until there is one team standing. But tomorrow's the crowning of the individual champion, always a very cool day. And yeah, shout out to Rose. Hopefully she keeps the pedal down and wins by 40 tomorrow. And hopefully not a crowning.

And all the crowning's the wrong word. It's a true a coronation rather than a crowning. Compitulation, if you would. A true capitulation. Yeah, that is gonna wrap the week. I love it. Thank you everyone for all the... Any, we got, we got Charles Schwab challenge this week.

We'll be there. We'll be there. You know, Cody, I'm sorry for telling everybody that we will be there, but we will be there. Anyone from Dallas, you know, send me a cash ad request. I'll send you TZ's flight information. This is a great golf week between. I was going to say colonial NCA shadow cream women's championships

and the LPGA's at shadow Creek for their match play, starting Wednesday. Yeah, the women start tomorrow afternoon at 2 p.m. Eastern daylight time. So you can call a golf channel there. Yeah. There we go. Nice. Eastern daylight time. So you can call the golf channel there. Yeah, there we go. Nice. I'll say this. If Stanford finishes more than 10 shots ahead after tomorrow, I feel like they should wave match play.

We know who the best team is. We don't need to go through this. That is such an anti-Randy take. Like that. Go out and win it. Go play. No, you go play match play. There is an all he's up by so much.

Don't play the final round. No, he's got two big of a lead. I got to, I got to check. We know who the best player is. I got a check here, Annie, but I was getting some texts. I feel like maybe the top seed has not gone on to win match play. I know match play still have a women's on the women's out. That's we think that's right.

Since they've gone to the match play. Well, since they've gone to match play, what it's private in 10 years or so now. Shit. Yeah. Uh, yeah. So yeah, something to watch, man. Match play is very fickle. It's crazy. I'll say this. You know who's in that eight spot right now? The first shot opponent, San Jose State,

which would be anybody who watched. Very, very good match. So Bolton Ward, Bolton Ward stuff. Real quick. This is crazy. Nothing is ever real quick. This is crazy. All right. I'm going to leave the folks with this. Okay.

So Trevor Cone won the corn fairy tour event today, but last year Cameron Young won that same event in Kansas City. Next week's event is in just outside Chicago. Of course. Glenn Vue. Cameron Young also won that. The next two events after that, the Rex Hospital open in Raleigh and the B.N.W. charity program, Mido Pereira won both of those. Wow. How about that? Do you see that's cool? That's really cool, man. That speaks to your go watch the corn fairy when it's in your neighborhoods. These are real players. And also this speaks to like, we need to get the death panel going to like open up more spotter. Yeah, then the herd on the PGA tour a little bit and

get some fresh blood because the fresh blood is really fucking good. I like to let's talk some more about that. No, but that's next week's big show. Cody, thank you so much for running the ones and twos all week. Thank you to everyone who has tuned in. This has been the probably the most fun I've had doing live shows. Yeah, it's been fantastic.

Shout out to Yeti as well. Great to be part of it. Big sharing, excited to work with them. Great people involved. Small shop made, turned into a, great partner. Big share excited to work with them. Great people involved. Small shop made, turned into a big shop. Very, very thrilled to be with them. So we'll be back with them for the US Open. There's going to be so much mildew in that cooler.

Yeah, we did mention we were not changing the ice until until Rory wins a major. So we're going to have to, you know, it's going to be mildew season in here. Love it. New pouch. That's right in the water. Thank you everyone for tuning in all week. And we will see you back for regular schedule programming next week. Cheers!

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