No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 561: Charles Schwab Challenge Recap (ft. Scott Stallings, Rose Zhang and Rachel Heck)

Episode Date: May 30, 2022

We've got a jam packed pod this week as Sam Burns comes from way down the leaderboard to defeat Scottie Scheffler in a playoff to win the Charles Schwab Challenge at Colonial. We take stock of the week in Ft Worth - the ejections, the course, the close calls, the unreported scoring tent shouting match and more. Then, Scott Stallings calls in to recap his wild rules experience today and we recap the false start on the Saudi field list and the rumored names of who'll make the jump. Then to close us out DJ catches up with Rose Zhang and Rachel Heck (1:31:40) to recap the Stanford women's golf team's run to a team national championship as well as Zhang's individual national championship victory.   If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisiscounseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visithttp://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP(7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visitOPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. New customers only. Min. $5 depositrequired. Eligibility restrictions apply and product offerings varyby state. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Sam Burns. Hell of a joke to get it there. T.C. Thank you. I had to do a small for that. Also should bet to Sam. Do it too. Sam Burns won with the Crumbsop X golf ball in a rogue ST triple diamond driver.

You know, we all saw this one coming from midday, right? Sam Burns went in the win in this week. 100%. I was so bum when he missed that really, really makeable birdie putt, I think on 15, 14, 15. He made like a really makeable, or missed a really makeable one right up the hill, and I'm like, damn, he's gonna lose by one or two.

And sure enough, like everybody just pissed down their leg. It was crazy. It's a very weird day. I can't tell how much it was a true pissing down the leg as much as it was like the conditions got very, very, I mean, it was easy in the beginning when the wind direction was kind of going in the way that was really helping on golf holes. And then everything, like the greens look like they got super baked out. Puts were wobbling all over the place. Like that pin position on 17 guys kept by almost

putting off the green back to that one. That strictly has to be considered, you know, from the wind conditions. But what a weird, weird day of golf. How about the bounce that Burns's ball got into 18 to the play in regulation? Oh, I didn't do that, but in the playoffs too. Or the play. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was crazy. It was, I mean, the ball bounce like 10 feet in the air.

Right to the spot. Ben Green's right to his spot the spot where he wanted it. Third tour win this season for Sam Burns. This is what no matter what happened, it would have been seven wins between him and Sheffler. This season alone. Are they gonna have a field for Capulua this year? These guys are hoarding all the wins.

This is hoovering up wins. That would be a good stat to know what the least amount of guys qualified for capillula in season one. I mean, Kat was stacking up. True. Stop and. VJ won 10 times in 04, right?

Nine. Nine times. Kat was stacking them and then also not playing capillula, which was a tough game. Very, very sick. Rainy, what do you think? Did you watch some golf today? I did. I did.

I watched most of the whole back nine for the leaders flipped over from the Indy 500, which was an exciting finish. And yeah, the goal. It's crazy, man. You turn up the wind. And these guys, you know, these guys just, they don't know what to do. It's crazy. It's a tough golf course for the wind. I know all of them get harder with the wind, but with small greens, there's, there, it just, there's nowhere to hit like a safe shot. And that's what I feel like we saw on repeat today. Like that shot into 13 today was so difficult. Yeah. It was extra gusty to it. Wasn't just some sustained wind. It was gusting and then letting off. And then like, you know, with an hour to go, the wind kind of died. And then

it ramped back up towards the last little bit. One of the cool things about colonial too, I think, where all of us are big, get the trees out of there, tree removal people, but. Well, I shouldn't say all of us. Randy, I'm so sorry. I should, you know, that's a, number one rule of journalism, you know,

just never, never throw those all encompassing statements out there. But most of us are big tree removal people. And I would imagine, I can't imagine how hard it has to be to to judge the Gusts out on a golf course like that where you're constantly in corridors, you're blocked, then you're in it, then you're out of it, then you're you're kind of like 13s in that kind of hollow down there where you can't really feel anything that's going on and then you get up to like 12T or on a little higher spot. It's just it's a it's a cool piece property that would have been exceedingly difficult to try

to navigate today. Obviously, I did not have the world number one. The guy who's won what four of his last nine starts, something like that, not making a birdie today. I think that's that's about the only thing, you know, that's going to keep it from a from a pure just beat down from my guys TC and Randy, I would think as far as all these guys of this generation are just graces. Everybody stinks. Trackfer track man golfer I will say what watching Scotty at least start out like I almost turn it off because I thought that he's going to win by 50 like watching him come through the horseshoe man Randy how horrible is that horseshoe out there it's it gets more horrible every year but But watching him just, especially on like five,

hitting the low bullet cut driver, I'm like, yeah, this guy's like playing golf out here. Like the conditions are ramping up. Like this guy's playing capital G golf. And yeah, outside of a couple of eight to 10 foot comebackers, not a lot else to really praise from our guy's Scotty today. This was my most I've seen Scottie play golf in person.

Was this week we're not watching for a little bit Thursday and he was kind of like all over the place and I kind of had to come in and out of his group and I looked up by the end of the day, I forget what he shot his three or four under for day one and I was just like oh my god like B minus game and he gets it around in I didn't make a bogey in the shot 36 shot 66. I mean, he had a ball off 11 T hit the hospitality. It went over behind 12 green. And he was just pulling stuff. It just did not look pretty.

And on that nine holes, he shot 300 par. Like, you know, just like, oh my God, he's just, it does pat. Rainy like deep, deep, deep, deep down. I never wanted to say this on the pod, but I could like one percent of me could see where you're coming from on the eye test. Like the swing just looks a little,

it doesn't look very repeatable. And then in person, just the way he drops it into the slot is like, oh, it's actually very, very, very repeatable. How about the shot he hit on 13 today? Like he almost, oh, it's like he missed it the shot he hit on 13 today? Like, he almost like, Oh, it's like he missed it. That was not good.

That was not good. You know, it goes to 12 feet. That was the preeminent grease ball. He got some serious bounce. I think that was a thin stretch. Very thin to win. I don't want to take too much attention away from, I mean, this, Scottie did not win today.

He has four PGA Torbans. You know, it also has four PGA Torbins in the last 14 months. Sam Burns indeed. It's this absurd. I mean it's like kind of forgotten about because you know he didn't did not make the rider cup team he was the 13th player on that team and then since then has won three times I believe he's now considered a full on lock for the president's cup team this year but this little stretch of golf he's been I mean truly one of the best American best players in the world period to this point.

Proper golf courses too. Valsbar twice, Sanders and Farms. Now colonial. Sanders in it. No disrespect anyway. That's a big dick win. No, it's a big win. Sanders seems like a classic style. I don't know much of I don't know what real greens.

Okay. Yeah. It's not like TPC Craig ranch or anything. He's ninth in the world now. He passes Jordan's beef, which feels loved to be very low. Right. It does. You know what? It's time to start talking about Sam Burns. No, his best finish in a major is T20 at Southern Hills a couple weeks ago. Otherwise, he's his best finishes T41 with the US Open in 2018. Which again, not to keep beating on this, I feel like we say this every week and definitely every week of the major and every week

after major, but man, the the golf between majors and non majors just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. And I think that is represented by nothing better than like no disrespect to San Burns, no disrespect to, of course, to anyone. But it's like, man, this doesn't really seem to get the people going, right? Like, I wholeheartedly agree with everything he said to all of you. Like, he's won four times in the last however many months, like truly one of the best players in the world. And it's just everybody's just like, oh, cool, man. Kind of feels like when Web Simpson was like beating it up

and like whatever that was, 2011 or whatever. And it's just like, oh, yeah, Web, he's killing it. Speaking of Web, great guy. It's kind of flashed this week. He's back a little bit. I was just going to say that to that point, coming a week off a major and a, you know, a lot of guys played the Byron Nelson the week before too,

considering the proximity of Tulsa Strength of field was 470 this week, which is 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9th best on PJ tour this year And I'm definitely not saying it's it's not a legitimate win No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no tour about like, you know, put in a context with Sam Burns is doing and they're like, holy shit, it's unbelievable. Unbelievable how good this guy is. And then I just feel like, you know, you go talk to any kind of casual golf fans, like, oh, yeah, that burns guy. I guess he's, he's supposed to be pretty good. I don't, yeah, I don't really know. He was in the final group at, at the players on, on, on Monday. Yeah. Two and, and you know and didn't play well,

but he was in position there to have a big finish. He's been in a bunch of other final groups, like Genesis wasn't in the final group last year and man, it's been, I guess yeah, I will actually give a little bit more credit to TC here. Like we should've seen this coming probably. So I'll be question for you. On a 120 man field or whatever this is, 122,

how does the strength of field differ from like a full field, 156? I think, I think, and this is where I could be wrong, but basically like whatever would happen below between 120 and 156 wouldn't really add to it anyways. It's not necessarily like an average. It's just like a points thing. Like if you get the number one player in the world,

let's pull out a number like it adds 30 points to the string of the field. You get number two, it adds 28 blah, blah, blah. And you add that up and that's how you get to the string of the field number. 40 less guard, you know, 35 less guys to beat, to make the cut though. Just look, yeah, to make the cut and that's exactly right.

And just clogging up the golf course and makes the like a 120 man field is a lot easier to win no matter who is filling the bottom of that field. I heard it hurt a chuck a lot of radio. I think at the same thing I heard which is clogging up off. Which is a really good verb for for what how I feel about most of professional golf. Speaking of which I texted a player I was at Colonial Tuesday Wednesday this week and I was like, yo, I like this is definitely me probably but it's me getting old and me kind of losing a little bit of touch with like college golf and younger players and Cornberry tour but like, yo, I've never walked around a golf tournament and like

Seeing more people with golf bags that I have never seen in my fucking life. And they're like, yeah, dude, and check it out. Like, this is a really good field, dude. I'm like, yeah, they're just out there clogging it up, right? We can get the plumbers out there. It was pretty, they're gassy. They need to put some prune juice on the field. Like Riley Davis, like, never heard of that guy. That guy's a stud. Or at least he was until he got me.

Guys, speaking of me monster, that one out of balance. We get so much disaster we got to talk about Speaking of clogging up the golf course, can we just get out of the way? Can we talk about the fiasco that was, hey, these guys play slow as shit down the stretch when the wind is going. They step off the wall so much, hitting the ball in the requisite time is a skill. Yes. And an advantage and it should be rewarded. You shouldn't be bailed out for taking as long as you possibly want on a putt. If it's windy stepping off of it, stepping off of it, stepping off of it. And then I don't even know where to go.

Scott stallings. I'd consider him a friend. It's not his fault. I don't blame him. It sounds like steve it. But man, this is a friend. I'm showered with this man. No.

But man, that TIO. You put it for this man. That TIO on, was that on 12? He's playing 12. He's back behind 13 T. Bad. Bad. Yes, but also like what would you do in this situation?

We gotta get rid of TIO. Completely. You play the ball as a lice. Yes, but also like what would you do in this situation? We got to get rid of TIO completely. You play the ball as a lice. I think any tournament infrastructure is part of the course. Any sort of FedEx cup big letters. Yeah. And that should give them pause. Do we want to put up this huge FedEx sign right here?

I did see whoever it was. I forget if it was Will nights or Porter or whoever tweeted earlier But someone was hitting between the two Lexus is out there. That was JT. Was it? Yeah, number eight. Yeah Which is not that's seemingly not in play. No, there you go If they got to read these guys, you know if they got a route though, they're totally fine. Nice tour. Nice tour, man God, that could be a true. I didn't even think about it that way. True two birds with one stone. Maybe we get less FedEx cup stuff out there.

And we get to play a little more, you know, you know, we get to protect the sanctity of the game a little bit too. Well I bet to be very clear, if they want to put like giant FedEx billboards in the middle of fairway under Tron's proposal, I'm all for it. You know, but you got to go one extreme or the other. It's just like, in all seriousness though, as these guys are really, really, really starting to melt down, like on 8, 9, 10, 11, like this stalling fiasco is going on.

It took what, half an hour? It took a long time. If I can meet you halfway, if you want TIO relief, the ball has got to be played in under two minutes. Like, you got to get two of the spot. If you're going to take relief, you're going to call in an official all that.

It's got to take two minutes. That's it. If not, more than two minutes for the official to even get there. But that's, that's, if you want to relieve, if you need the official and you need relief, it should take two minutes. Otherwise, you're playing that ball as it lies.

And that ball is now in play. Or you got to make the decision yourself and risk not knowing the rules. Like, we need to encourage these guys to know the rules. And I think we're going to get there. And I just want to keep building it up to it. But I want to commend all the young ladies who played at River Valley Golf Course in Iowa. We're going to get to the viral video that everybody saw this week,

but they were playing real golf out there. And the tour players are not. They're playing some bastardized, you know, simplified version of the game. You tell me, well, you tell me who's protected and who's not protected. The Iowa State High School, you know, Athletics Association was asking very

direct, very pointed questions. Exactly. Possibly, maybe impossible question, almost a rhetorical question, but they were asking it. And I think we learned a lot about if these ladies during during the course of answering this question. If you did not see this, the average score during the 18th hole at this tournament was quadruple bogey. It was a sorry. I didn't mean to derail as it go right there. I was trying to build a critical mass for later, but it was a 280 yard par four 18th. Great, you know, sounds like a great finisher. And according to the website, four players par the whole, 280 yard par four,

four players par the whole, 12 players bogeyed it, 12 players bogey to nine double bogey it and 51 other. God that's so sick. And if you haven't seen it we got to tweet it out. You can't be tweeted up times, but it's I mean there are balls that are getting within a foot six inches eight inches of the cup and then still like turning around going back the way they came and then rolling like 30 yards off the grid. It was what's Friday night or Saturday night. I was, I just, I said they're

cackling for like an hour. It was fantastic. Really horsesholy joined the conversation. He did. He did. He did. He's not a fan. Took to social media to say, feel bad for these girls. Absolute joke by these officials in Iowa to embarrass these young ladies.

These officials should be banned from setting up a course in the future. This isn't an accident. They knew what they were doing when they set that whole location. I bet these young ladies handled it better than I would. Billy, I can assure you that more. I sure agree with that more. I think it's better than you would. It was just one quote from a fan or a parent, I think their kids waited 45 minutes to tee off of the hole Putting took up to 30 minutes for a group I mean, it's just absolute all time All-time stuff all-time stuff. So

How much can that's what we're missing this week? How much can we correlate what happened with stallings to what happened? Very very very shortly after To mr. Harold Varner the third. Harold Varner. Harold has 19. He is two under par, ten under par for the tournament, two under for the day on the 12th green in the final round. He has, you had him to win and you had him to win. Solid, Solid was stacking his nugs, you know, gloating already in the text.

That's what we'll revisit that, Mr. Everstop's gloating. He is putting from 19 feet for par to remain at 10 under par. He finished the tournament at even par. He proceeds to four putt makes triple flips over to 13 hits it in the water, makes double. They didn't even show this part. Pops goes to be on 14 in the water makes double. They didn't even show this part. Pop goes to be on 14 just like Davis Riley and then Bernie said on the broadcast that he made quote another trip. Which is accurate, but Bernie's 15. He makes birdie.

Part 16 double 17 and hits it in the water on 18 makes bogie shoots 45 on the back. Does any man melt down? No, it like this guy when he goes, he goes really hard. Bath page PGA, one of the fastest ejections we've ever seen. We've ever seen. What else is it? Riviera. Riviera tops it up. Top 10 on the 17.

Allegedly, we still have to highlight that. Bruder film. He was 10 over on seven holes with a birdie. Yes. In the midst of it. Then this year at the players, he was like 600 par, made a triple on 17 in the opening round. He was winning the Charles Schwab challenge when they came back from COVID, shoots 700 of the opening round. Next day shoots makes a triple on the opening hole. The dude has so much Icarito in him. It's unbelievable.

He melted like a 1.4 million dollars on fire today. I mean, you know, it's, he's got crazy ball speed. Like, I don't know how he competes on this golf course. It doesn't seem like he's kind of golf course. He's a really good ball striker though. Like he keeps it right in front of him. Well, it seems like when he gets to the most swirly though. It's just, it's gone.

I don't know what happens internally to that guy. Because he seems so like calm, cool and collected through all of it every time. to get to the most swirly though. It's just gone. I don't know what happens internally to that guy, because he seems so calm, cool, and collected through all of it every time. And man, is it just a special kind of meltdown? Some of it just because he gets, like his body gets through it so much, like he's got so much turn, like full turn.

And there's just, like I would think that'd be better under pressure. That's a really armcy swing. But I have no idea. It's above my pay grade. I really, I really finished T27 tied with Bill Haas, Chez Reeve, Web Simpson, Taylor Goode, Danny McCarthy, Alex Smolley, and Chad Rainey. He made 56K at one point.

He was projected to win 1.5 million. God, he was tied to heart. What a kick in the nuts. He was projected to win 1.5 million. God. It was tied to heart. What a kick in the nuts. It was tough. Very tough. Davis Riley ejected pretty good. Still shot 69.

He bounced back after that. It looked like a bad ejection at the time because he went first and then everyone else followed after that. He had his chances down the stretch. And he birdied 10 and 11. So he was rolling. They actually buried 910 and 11. Yeah.

So 3 in a row, it was rolling. And then, parts 12, and then hits it OB. I mean, burns, burns lost a drive. He had one on 12, we had the bushes at a take. And I was thinking, all right, it's over at this point, form, and like he was playing really well, and then comes back and sticks his nose right back in it, and parts the last seven, but, uh,

sorry, parts the last six, but man, it was just such a weird afternoon. It was, I really, I'm struggling to like recap the day, if you will. But, so I mean, do it on a linger on, on Davis Riley a little bit, just because I feel like this, I don't have any stats to back this up, but it almost feels a little bit from that San Burns model of like, oh, yo, we need need to we need to flag this like this is gonna happen man This is second this is gonna come out shortly. Let's go back to Valspar remember when the Davis Riley We've been trying to gaslight solid for weeks

It's thinking it's Riley Davis remember when afterwards. They're like were like, when Sam Burns was like, oh, yeah, me and him are going to have a lot of battles in our career. That's true. We made fun of that. Like, I'm sure you're going to have a lot of battles in here. They are a couple of, not directly, but since that second at Valspar and then not so good T 63 and a cut at Texas and Heritage. Since then, T four at the Zurich And then the second half of the season.

And then the second half of the season. And then the second half of the season. And then the second half of the season. And then the second half of the season.

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season. And then the second half of the season. And then the second half of the season. And then the second half of the season. And then the second half of the season. And then the second half of the season. And then the second half of to Georgia. He looks like he lives at Sea Island. Nobody looked that up. We just assumed he lives in South Georgia. I think he lives in Mississippi. He actually went to Alabama as well.

Davis Thompson, who did go to Georgia, was in the hunt today on the corn fairy tour as well. Spencer Ralston, who also went to Georgia. There's so many of these very, very non-descript Georgia, like SEC dudes coming out. And I just, I can't believe no one has even talked about the, obviously, you know, his dad, Chris Riley, played on Ryder Cup team,

who's good friends with Tiger and no, they didn't mention that one time. Mike Davis is his older brother. You know who he played with at Zurich? I got, you guys want to take guess. It was Rick Riley. His uncle Rick Riley. Wayne, Wayne Riley. Radar though.

You guys are close. Uh, Cam Davis. That's good guess. Royce Ebottini. No. Who? Little Trilly. Will's out to us.

Really? Trilly, Dilly. Yeah. How about that? First I'm hearing of this. I kind of thought he, again, wild stereotyping by me, but just looking at him and really, God, that guy wants to hit the shit out of the ball.

Like, he must be just an all-time ball striker. Data golf doesn't appear to be the case. Seems like he is a bit of a bomber, plus point nine in driving distance, and plus point five in driving accuracy and very kind of level in approach and a very good putter. So that wasn't hitting it really far

and putting it really well is, that's gonna add up to a good combo. That tends to travel. Seems like without looking at it, that he has some volatility in that approach stat though. Like he, he, he, he, he, he, a lot of ups and downs on that. That's a big round.

That's a big average you're looking at, but he has had some tournaments where he's clearly brought it. I got something that I will also bet is might be the first you're hearing of this Golf fans capital ones the match Stack this year football's best quarterbacks Brady Rogers Allen and my homes are going from the gridiron to the golf course This is literally I did not know this was coming up this week I knew this match was happening, but I did not know what day week Again, I'm not quite sure on that, but you can get it on the action with the draft. I think it's Wednesday June 1st. Sorry to

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You need to give a take. Very capable for something or something to listed everywhere. Yeah, that's the best way to go through this because otherwise there's like, there's no orderly way to talk about like, it's a couple, you think it out loud about things as you're reading it. We're supposed to have done that before we show up.

I will generate some some conversation amongst the group. First of all, I do want to say with Scotty, he makes so many of those 10 footers down the stretch. Mm hmm. Like the one on 17 that you probably shouldn't have had in the first place, but, uh, how bad was that? One on 12 though. Not good. Oh my god. I don't know how to say shout out to the CBS

camera here on that. That was not with it like two feet of the hole. Man, it's like that even close. That even close. I didn't know it was possible to get those big greens like that firm and like everybody was leaving it short. It was it was it was a hard.

Yeah, until they weren't. Yeah, they were going like 15 feet fast. Also shout out to Nancy for saying that the here's some highlights from the deflight of the club championship. That's good stuff. Brennan Todd. Hold on, on that point, he immediately

was like beg for forgiveness. Oh, but of course I have such great respect for these guys. He didn't want to get caught in the tour. I was like, that was funny. Just let it ride. Brennan Todd, it will never not be, I don't know if hilarious is the right word, but like seeing him keep up with the number one player in the world, it's that's incredibly entertaining to be and I may be an audience of one on that one, but literally second lowest driving distance on tour, lowest ball speed on tour, like hunting down Scotty birdies the first two holes to tie the number one player in the world and hung with them all finishes one shot short of getting in that playoff.

I just salute to Bren Todd who has revitalized his career. I know it's been heavily documented. It's such a weird dude to watch play golf because he's so big. Yes. And it seems like he should be an absolute flusher, right? With everything you just listed off, it's like, oh, well, he must not hit it outside ten feet ever. He had some absolute clankers out there, man. He's like, bad, bad, iron shots too. Like, man, how does

this guy hang putting? He just makes everything insane, insane putter, insanely, like, usually you can be a good putter and not be consistent. Like, he doesn't miss, like, he doesn't have bad weeks with the putter. It's incredible. Next up. Next up. Top five T4 big like, big tone 67 67 on the weekend. Love that. Just came up to the big tone. 67 67 to lose by two. This was one that, you know, I feel like I, I, I flag this weeks ago in the in the draft Kings, you know, plays. Big tone had had bottomed out. He had a tough, tough start to the year.

Since then he's been really solid. Has missed a cut since the players. You bought a tone coin. I did. By the dip, man. Uh, we talked about Davis Riley. He was also T4 Scott Stallings. Great week.

Uh, T4. Great week up to up 68 or sorry, up 11 spots in the FedEx go up to 57th. Yeah, just kind of hit some squirrely ones down the stretch today. He was in so many bunkers today. I salute him for shooting 72 today. Like it was he could have shot a lot, a lot more. I don't remember how many bunkers he ended up. And I think it was somewhere in the 45 range. A take again after being on side of colonial. Bunker stands too good at colonial. Even with hickory clubs, you can get out of it.

It's way too well manicured and it's not a penalty for the guys. There's some of the best bunkers I've ever seen. Yes. And people like them too much because they're easy to hit out of. And Southern Hills was truly open my mind up in that regard. Like what are we doing? We're protecting these guys too much. 18 was a perfect example.

Both those guys in that bunker on 18, short-sided and. No, it was like a, like there was nothing. Scotty didn't even say that they were gonna make anything except for birdie or par. Scotty didn't even hit a good shot. Even Doddy's like, oh no, he caught that really fat. It's like three feet, four feet. Hey, I got a question on stallings.

What do you guys think of the facial hair? Well, I don't think I noticed. I didn't either. Oh, he's got like kind of a heart. Talk to him. A mustache and goatee. I mean, that's a lot. I think.

Yeah. You know what he reminds me of? He kind of reminds me of like, he should be in the movie Dodge ball and working at Globo. Did you I like the, uh, again, shout out to CBS, the kettle ball, uh, yeah, ball marker. It was, it was great. Yeah, but the no bowl swans or shit. Yeah, exactly.

I love it. Yeah. He's, uh, you know what? He was, he's always inspired when he goes to Fort Worth. Exactly. From beat. You know, he was, yeah, he was beat the shit. He's always inspired when he goes to Fort Worth. Exactly. You know he was, yeah, he was worth it. He beat the shit at TC and the gym. We parked right near there, the media parking was like PTSD.

I was like, hi, to him and I remember this place. If you don't know, go to our YouTube channel because Scott Stolling's whoop TC's ass in the gym. TC ends up puking during the workout. Hey, Randy, can I tell you that no bull is the official trading apparel and footwear of the PJ tour and PJ tour champions? I always I had to get a kick out of that stuff when you see like monahan walking around with like the no bull shoes.

That was a big activation. What the fuck is that? You're like, oh, that's why because they're like officials sponsored. Maybe two months ago they announced that. That was a big, big activation. Sure. Kevin Notthirsty Kevin, T7, getting his game sharp for the Saadi League.

That was his hat or his caddy's hat. Did you see that? All Saadi, right? Had the full on. Oh, Kevin had like the lapel, don't put any words on there. Let's just have the little like flower logo whatever it is.

The words are out there now. His caddy, Kenny Harms had the full on golf Saudi hat, which I didn't know they made. Rainy got to get you one of those. Cool. Please Jordan speed T seven. We know how to feel about this weird, weird golfer. Just I watched I watched a lot on this week.

Following for 18 holes on, on, uh, was that Thursday? I'm even more confused about just literally everything. I mean, so talented. He was so and, and so bad. He made a couple of the best birdies on the scene. And so bad and so good. Like, I don't understand it. None of it makes sense.

I hope you don't have his page up right now, but I want you to guess where he ranked in certain stats this week. Okay. Where do you think he ranked in approach? 12. Like 40th. Okay. Where do you think he ranked in Strokesgate off the tee?

120 man fields. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He drove it well. Strokesgate and around the green.

98th. Well, he was, he was chipping well, but then he was missing all the shorties. Second. He drove it well strokes getting around the green 98 Well, he was he was chipping well, but he was missing all their shorties second. So I'd say yeah chipping well I'm then putting probably a hundredth Well, I think it only counts the people who made the cut but 40 second in putting Yeah, all that is like yeah, I mean, I guess that makes sense. He finished he's seven You made the guy wasn't gonna win Made the dirtiest par on three. Like one of the dirtiest approaches I've seen out of the rough down the right side on the

horrible horseshoe on nine on three. And then no, nine got up and down. And then like and then on 17. He's like trying to chip it in. He sends it like, you know, three or four feet by this is on Thursday. And then just completely misses like just just gasses the putt. And it's like, it's just, I was fucking exhausted after watching him for 18 holes.

I can't imagine how he goes about this day to day in week to week. It's like somebody is playing golf, and literally they're trying to make every single shot. Like I'm in the trees, like watch this, I'm gonna make this. Like, what's this? Well, I'm gonna try to make it. And like, probably get like, like watch this, I'm gonna make this. Like, well, watch this one, I'm gonna try to make it and like probably get like,

like, on 18, on Thursday. I'm standing there and like, he hits, he hits a leafy, he hits a branch. Jordan, I'm just not seeing him. Yeah. And Greller's trying to talk him off the shot and he's like, this shot's right there, man. He's on me.

He was clearly trying to back, like he was clearly trying to throw it in the grandstand, because it came in hot. But again, he almost hit the stick. It's crazy. He's trying to make every shot. I just I don't see it as sustainable. I saw like the most talent sleepy. Yeah, like the most talent. He's good. Tucker. So freaking good at golf, but it just like he has, I don't know, it was it was totally exhausted. Let me ask you this, give you a chance to get on a block here. Where, where's that style going to play going for, like, remainder of the season. remainder of this season?

Yeah. Is there anywhere that plays? Brookline. I feel like old course, you get absolutely eviscerated if you miss in the wrong spots though. But I feel like you can eliminate it entire side of the golf course. Like he's not got a two way miss or anything going. He's just, yeah. I still feel decent about the golf course. Like he's not got a two way miss or anything going. He's just Yeah, I still feel decent about his old course change. slower greens

Oh, should be good for him too. It feels like if people are driving the back. If everybody's missing greens a Brooklyn like he's chipping it. Yeah, really well. LACC sets up quite well for him next year. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I'm like it's it's jarring to see the the pre-shot routine in person. But he dropped it for a little bit yesterday. Couple shots. I just forgot. Yeah.

Just for a couple of moves. Like, dude, I can't, I can't do it. I'm so exhausted. Couple, I flashed to it. I was expecting it to, to be the pre-shot routine and then he brought it back, though. He's gotten much quicker over the ball. Like, he's got the pre-shot routine, but then as soon as he brings it back and then down, he pulls the trigger like immediately after that.

So props to him for getting quicker, but man, it is just, it's exhausting. It is absolutely exhausting. So I'm gonna go through the T7s. Sure, okay. Mido. I was watching Mido today. I saw him make Bogey or made Birdie on two.

He birdied one in two. And I was like, oh my God, this is my story for the day. I can't wait to see how this goes. He didn't make another birdie for the rest of the day. Three Bogeys after that, 71. It's T-7. T-7 though. Great, great comeback.

Yeah, it's big props. You know, who else deserves big shout out at T-7? P. P, baby. I think P, P's gotta be. You know, who else deserves big shout out at T7? P P baby. I think P P's gotta be kicking himself a little bit. He had two bogey. He bogey'd both the part five's today. That's tough, which I hate seeing that from P.

On the Mito note before we move on, I would encourage people go. Did you guys read the Dylan to chairs piece this week about? Very random, but before the week he had asked me to like, hey, can I shadow you for the week and just kind of interview you every day and follow you to the rental house and see what's going on and turned out me had like, is that a good week for the week of his life? And so Dylan's got a bunch of cool nuggets in there hanging with, you know, walking and Sebastian Munoz and Carlos Ortiz and all those guys. And it was just, it was really, really cool story.

So shout out to that. Go read that on golf.com. P, uh, he's, he's scrapping, man. He's up to 61st in the FedEx cup. He's not, you know, he's playing with the deck stacked against him a little bit. You saw Lady J out there this week. We did. She was rocking Olympic gear from head to toe.

I saw her before you guys got there with some of the most ignorant, like hiking boots, like combat boots out of the putting your tactical fucking awesome. She had like combat boots and like a like a leather print, like winter jacket. Well, I imagine my excitement when I see her decked out in all USA and her hat. I just says it says two that like says 20 on one side as in the year. And I don't see the other side. And I was like, wait a second. P has not been on a US team since 2020 came around. My experience, see. Tell me she got like Ryder Cup gear for the Ryder Cup that P didn't get selected for. And I showed the picture to somebody and they're like,

ah, no, that's the Olympic gear. I was really disappointed. I thought we were gonna have a true Twitter moment with that one, but. You know, it doesn't get talked about enough. I know we bang on the equipment and all that stuff. Remember when that doctor apparently told Pee was gonna die last year?

Yeah. I don't remember that. Yeah. He was like, yeah, I find. Oh, he had the vid, right? Well, he didn't wedge it. Legal reasons, we can't comment on that. Double pneumonia.

He had a double pneumonia chest infection situation and then his lungs We're not strong enough to take a commercial air like he couldn't like ride in an airplane So we had to drive from Houston to Atlanta to the tour championship or spoiler alert didn't play great Trying to make the rider come to me you guys you don't remember it. You don't remember it I was number vaguely yeah, I blocked it out very much like that's the thing that happened. That's crazy I do. Yeah, I blocked it out. Very much. I just like that's the thing that happened. That's crazy. I do. I can't keep up with that kind of shit. There's too many golfers out.

He shot 6666 to start the week. There were a few guys that kind of faded like a prima kids. Chris Kirk shot 66 67. I thought, all right, Chris Kirk's like, going to win this thing going away. Bo Hossler 66 65, he faded pretty hard, 73, 74 on the weekend. Randy, were you gonna say something about P? Well, I think I know the answer,

but TC, was there any diplomatic outreach to Lady J this week? Listen, I did not go to the course until a lot on Wednesday, went over, you know, did some hobnobbing and the equipment truck, all sorts of fun stuff, but. He's getting his wedged set up, though. Yeah, but I did not see Lady J on Wednesday, went over, you know, did some hobnobbing and the equipment truck, all sorts of fun stuff. But it's getting his wedged set of thoughts. Yeah, but I did not see Lady J on Wednesday and then Sally went out early Thursday

and I was doing some work back at the hotel and he's like, oh, Lady J is out here and I rushed over and it was too late. That moment it was. It was too late. A simple no with supply. It's so slow. I love going to this tournament. I was gonna say can we get it?

You guys were they're longer than me. What was the best thing you saw on site? I just want to say that P has dropped the PXG driver now and is all of a sudden back on the planet and that of course Reminding me of bubble lots and playing putt putt golf balls for an entire year of his career again another thing that happened which is wild and I made a million dollars though. Pete, he is a one club deal. And he does do anything. And it does not have a single club in the bag right now. It's gotta be, which is incredible.

Nobody makes golf clubs the way we do. Truly. Well, it was the best thing he guys saw. Oh, Tommy, Fleetwood and Finnow. Hey, what's with me? And they said, hey, like Tommy said, why do you, like, why do you keep saying I stink it off? And I said, I'm absolutely writing for you.

It's these dipshits that keep saying that you stink it off. DJ, you are the ringleader of this one. I love Tommy Lattie. He just has disappointed us in recent years. Yeah. I'm of course in the same boat. Massive Tommy fan. That's why it stings me.

But like, guys, Rene, help me out. Oh no, he's been a no show You should have been like Tommy respectfully like why don't you ever win? Yeah, I got listen nobody would celebrate it He has big dick wins. Oh God. We're not doing this. We're not doing this. I did float if I did float one of the best nicknames I think TC's ever come up with two finna when Tron we did the whole big dick events thing. I said, Tron is taken to call Tommy the rabbi because all he does is make cuts in big dick events.

No, get this. Which I think they really settled into that one. So that was good stuff. All right. Do you ever need cuts he's made? T.C., we're not doing this. We're not doing this, guys. He's missed. He's missed

He's made seven cuts since the beginning of 2020 Okay, in in what 31 in 47 events great week this week T 35 Tied Leehoges who apparently is a PJ tour player We're not doing this they I love going to this event as well, Dej. It is one of the best proximity golf courses, I always say. Like, it's amazing. If you want to get to somewhere to see something, you can total super easily. It's just not an enormous property. The holes are so much connectivity with them.

I sneaky just love a weird thing. I love when Torpros have to wait for adjacent holes to have their action. Because you kind of get to see a little bit of both. Like, oh, I can watch these guys T-LF on 18 while these guys are getting ready to hit on 14. It's just a great term. It's not overly crowded,

so you can almost always get a great viewpoint of whatever you want to see. And the dude just love it, man. It's just something that like doesn't come through on television never really did for me. And even I even ask guys, I'm like, why are you playing this week? Like you're just coming off the major,

like you know, you played the major, the major in the moral next week. Yeah, like why did the major after that? Do I love this place? I just, they love it. And I think it's gonna get even better with some renovation help. So.

It's such a, like, yeah, it's an easy course to walk. The locals are so freaking friendly. For the rules. Yeah, which, you know what, shout out to Fort Worth. I had so many people come up to me this week like seriously and say like Hey, thank you for shitting all over Dallas. The the American Airlines arena the roof was leaking the night that we flew into town I mean say no more I see see I'm not gonna take responsibility for that. I'm not going to okay

The high barbecue truck was out of 40. I visited that a couple of times. TCs, they're three, four times a week. They're wonderful people. I would encourage everybody to support the restaurant for work. Yeah, it's awesome. They, there's just some great, great golf holes.

Like, like, just, and they don't look like much on TV, but there's so much nuance and like, you can hit whatever you want off these teas. Seven's a good example, nine's a good example. Seven freaks me out. Seven so straight. In that you've played six holes in a row, minus the part three.

You've played six holes in a row that are curving, you're thinking about shape and shots, you're thinking about... You're getting your dick knocked in. Blown over corners, and what's my fault? And then it's like, here's the dead straightest hole you've ever seen in your entire life. And you can hit five-er?

Like, fuck, am I supposed to play this one? Or you can hit like five iron holes. You have to tee. And then, like eight's gonna rule when they redo eight, they're gonna move it down towards the creek. Nine is a really, really cool hole. It's this sneaky, dog like right with a pond in front. I don't, not to ask you a question,

you might not know the answer too, but do they own all the property up to the river? I think so. And I always wonder why they don't, like why is that not cleared out? Like why is that never visible? I was assuming there's a visible off the river that like, ever,

on the golf course, it feels like. That's why I think I'm, it just, I think it, the complications that come with renovating this thing and are just, with the timeline and this tournament That's why I think I'm just I think it the complications that come with renovating this thing and are just with the timeline and this tournament and how it works with grass growing season I'm just like I don't know when the last time it was Yeah, I renovated true and then yeah kind of nipped in touch a little and that's what I was gonna touch on to is like Having said all that I agree with everything regarding the golf course. It is in massive need of a renovation totally

Yeah, it needs a face. But the fact that it's going to be caught, it's really fun. The fact that it's as good as it is right now speaks volumes, I think. I mean, even just going through like 10 is a really, really cool little par four, 11's like, like I stood there on 11 and watched four or five groups go by.

Almost every guy had driver off the desk. Awesome. In the burgers. Green. That was one of the best shots of a person deck awesome burgers green. Oh my god I was one of the best shots a person. Oh my god. It was like 308 out and you just into the wind pulls driver off the deck Max pull driver off the deck out of the rough and had a really good one. It was awesome Uh, and then like love everybody got their face kick in today 12 cool is shit 15's awesome I know it's windy, but nine under

is shit. 15's awesome. I know it's windy but nine under. Exactly. Oh, one of the short courses on tour. 17's a really, really cool penultimate hole. It's just a, it's a, like, it's a grower and not a show. Yeah. You know what? We should reiterate for, for Randy. And I suppose the audience as well. Some of the stuff Gil was saying to you, Sali, about putting more trees in. Mm-hmm. I don't know if Randy heard that or not.

What's up, Gil was saying to you, Sally, about putting more trees in. Mm-hmm. I don't know if Randy heard that or not. I don't know. No, please, please, please. Just about Dan Jenkins saying that, you know, he always noted that this was a dark golf course. Like, there was just your hitting shots into dark places on this. Some dark souls out here at Colonial, if you will.

And how they're actually going to be adding trees in spots. Like, that is a defining characteristic of this course is shaping balls through trees and things like. And they've lost a few the last couple of years. They lost one on 18 a couple of years ago off the left and they lost one on. That makes so much more sense. This year where like guys guys can basically bang it down the left with impunity over the trees, but before they had to really, really snap one off. But even like we're out there falling Max,

Speed and Burger on Thursday, and Max hits what looks like an absolute seed, like going right to left in a hurry, really, really high ball flight, just wins working with it. It's what looks like the perfect drive, and he still ran through the fairway there. It's just, it's a, like, you cannot fake it around there, and you can't overpower the place. I'll actually tell you on the other side of this, what the best thing I saw this week was.

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of every single person I asked when I asked, did you hear about what happened with Dylan Fratelli and Ian Polter on the 12th hole on Thursday? Because everyone's reaction was, oh, did I? Oh my God, did I hear about this? Not a lot of reporting going on around this because I think it is important to have a discussion around it.

It is very much a, he said, he said situation, but there was a lengthy, lengthy, lengthy discussions. Hours long discussion in scoring after the round on Thursday. I am going to relay the situation as I understand it through many, many, many sources of discussion. There was an incident where Dylan Fertelli hit the ball over the 12th green on Thursday into a bush. He is digging around in there in the bush and there is a thwack sound in there and then three to four seconds later, another

thwack sound and the ball comes out. And he chips on and holds out and is marked down by whoever is keeping his car, which was Zach Johnson as a five signs the card and then Ian Polter in the group also loses his mind to say, no, no, no, you whiffed at that ball, you swung, we all heard it, we all saw it, you made six on that hole and a debate ensued for, I believe I was told an hour and a half, officials getting involved. Real quick pause. Always my favorite thing about these moments is that like people just keep coming

into this g scoring trailer. Like the next group comes in. Then the next group comes in. So they get like, leave and keep going or people just like come into this hot situation which always makes me laugh. And so I kept waiting for something to become of it. I don't know if, you know,

the if I don't know how the ruling actually shook out and he kept the five on his card. And that was what went into the official scoring and I imagine among those conversations with the scoring officials. Again, this is this part of his conjecture. I imagine it comes with a now you realize we're signing on this. We're okay and he disparaging remarks you make about this player, you know, or consider that within the rules as you as you go forward because I did try to ask Mr. Polter about what happened He was very very very nice in saying that he could not talk about it, but he He

He made a face as in like I would love to tell you all about what is going on right now I just can't and say what you want about Polter like I don't think the guy's gonna Needlessly accuse someone of cheating if he doesn't feel pretty damn good about it. Especially on his way out the door, which I would assume is what we'll probably by the time you're listed this podcast, you will know that. But the fact that he was this adamant about it

and listen, he is telling other tour players about it because everyone knew about it, every, everyone, everyone. Everyone. You know what the best know about it? Dylan's lost the locker room. You know who the best note is? Dylan lost the locker room. You know who else is in scoring at that point? They went off opposite of P.

P, Webb, and Colin, or a collar. We're on the other side of the course. And then, I think who else came in? Kevin Nau came in in the next group. How'd hit her so good? Co-Craft came in. Lucas Herbert, who's had some run-ins with the rules himself. So if anyone does have more information, I would like to share it.

If we got any part of that wrong, please, please, please let us know. But does sound like, I guess, I believe Dylan has said that it was a practice swing and it didn't count. And Polter was adamant that it would. And I hate to say I'm team Polter on this, but to your point, it doesn't count and Poulter was adamant that it would. And I hate to say I'm team Poulter on this, but I got like to your point, it doesn't seem like it's something that he would just make up or lie about. And then Dylan sat in, sat in player dining for the next four hours and eight. We made it like food.

We made it like three minutes before he did it. So I'm proud of you for that. What? Just like the chief joke, making the cheap joke about Dylan. It's fun. Randy. Delicious. Dylan Fratelli ended up finishing the week one shot ahead

of Ian Polter. Oh, god. Oh, god. And tied with Tommy Fleetwood and the aforementioned Lee Hodges. What are they finished? T 35. So he made 41, 832 this week, and Polter made 36, 60.

So a couple thousand bucks maybe or so, because the way the ties would have worked, that's probably what they cost Polter. It was worth to see if there's any chatter and a round bird this week. It's true. The South African coffee shop might be, they might be fired up about this, it justice.

You'll be the first person to know, how many fucking people you think know what roundbird is? Wait, why are you throwing that out? I literally on this pie, I was like, I didn't get that joke. How many people listen to this? Why do you have to dox my coffee shop? I'm just saying, it's, you know.

It's one, you know. South African. Those jokes are, it's, it's one for that one for us, ready? That's it. Other highlights of the week, um, Sali Thursday night. Oh, wow. We went out and, uh, Sali got on the pop-a-shot at a local bar in, uh, right off of Sunday and Square in downtown Fort Worth. The library, I believe it is a TCU bar.

It is a college bar. Just if anyone wants it, go ahead. Love, love college bars called the library. Love, love play on words. Yeah. You get it. You know, Joel Damon and I played a lot of ski ball and then Sally made his way to the pop-a-shot

in his fourth try, which, you know what, to do this, third try. To do this in the third try after his arms were already tired, was pretty remarkable. He beat the high score on both, on both baskets. Do you think, I don't want to take anything away, but do you think it's one of those places where they reset the high score every day? No, I mean, it was, it was pretty, it was a pretty high score.

It's been there a hundred years. Really? Yeah, a hundred years. Mr. Hogan. A hundred-year course record. Pro years. Mr. Hogan. It's the place open. A hundred-year course record. Prok Mr. Hogan's record. They have a backup generator to keep the score alive. Okay?

That's all serious, so they take this shit. They protect the game. God, that's good stuff. I'm sorry, I missed it. It was, I've never... Word got back to me so quickly, though. A pop-up shot that does this, it was a minute, three-minute-long rounds.

It was an endurance test. So the score was 487. Like you not only ball, you got to make to get to 487 points, but if anyone wants it, the record's there. Go take a picture if you're in the area. Or go back and tell us if they reset it every day. Yes, exactly.

It was a big effort. You know, I saw two things that were very cool on the range. I tweeted a picture of this, but I think every year they've started doing this at Colonial where they have the Ben Hogan, two irons and like, persimmon drivers and the replicas of of the clubs that he hit with the big like track man set up out there and they do a long drive contest. I believe Tommy won that or at least he

laid in the day. Lately, he is. Yeah, I think he flew it was second right? He flew it to 94. I think I think Jay, uh, flew it to 94. I think JT flew to 92 and I think max flew to 90 or to 91. However, modern ball, modern ball. It's, it's, it's kind of gets to, uh, you know, is it the driver is the ball, you know, it's the ball. And I probably combo of the two, but it's, uh, you can't just change one. Yeah, I guess is what I'm saying. One other takeaway I had and I'm not going to name names on this front, but, um,

a lot, a lot more moping like Thursday, Friday of guys that were just like lingering around the cut or maybe going to miss the cut. Just a lot of shots hit, not fully checked into the moment. And I am not good at this. Listen, but like a lot of like rotella stuff was sticking out to me in terms of like this. Just not what, when the guys that are in contention on the weekend, like you just don't see them their body language like this or their self talk,

anything like that. And it was just like a whoa dude, like holy shit, there's a lot of moping going on right around now. And it was, it was tough to watch at times. That was, that was a takeaway I had. On the flip side of that, I followed, so Berger was in that aforementioned speed home-up burger group and

He was he did not have his swing and I ever heard him say like to his caddy like hey like I Do not have the bottom my swing like I don't I have no feeling in my hands right now It's not at all that's so sick. Yeah, and he like like any any He takes forever on the greens. All right, so let's just get that out of the way. I mean, Caddy's lining him up. Like, it's almost against the spirit of the rules in my opinion.

It's a change. And then it's windy out there, so he's stepping off of pots and it's like kind of on my coming. But on the flip side, I do want to say, like, the amount of grind and grit and like to be able to not only make the cut but just keep convincing yourself that hey I'm only one swing away.

Max and Speed were both hitting the ball really, really well. I think by 11 or 12 they were each like a one or two shot difference between the two of them, which goes to show you. It's so interesting going out and, you know, going out and watching a guy build around, it's crazy. I want to shout out Ricky Fowler for A for making the cut, shot 75 today, but was playing, you know, rather well. And then, but more for his hat, you had that bucket head on,

fire. You know, one of the coolest things I saw this week, very, very small thing, kind of a cheesy thing, I don't care. I was there a Tuesday, whether it was kind of shitty, it was kind of rainy and gross, and bones was out there walking the golf course by himself. Like two days after winning a major championship,

the guy has, you know, probably walked this golf course 7,000 times. Nothing has changed. And it's just, I don't know, it's really cool seeing him like no fans around on the property, no other players around, no other caddies around. Just that dude, like I'm sure he probably finds like, I'm sure he has a very hectic life now, both with like the TV stuff as he dropped through that and then also just cadding for like a crazy high profile player. Golf course is probably a very stressful place for him,

I would imagine, in a lot of ways. And it was very cool to see him have like a very serene moment just doing his craft. I kind of felt like the Harbaugh, you know, watching the traffic cop thing, you know, that story. Oh, one of the best anecdotes ever. Jim Harbaugh watching the traffic cop.

I didn't know if you're gonna go traffic cop or being the shit out of everybody in dodgeball. Yeah, one of the best anecdotes. Jim Harbaugh watching the traffic cop. I didn't know if you were gonna go traffic cop or being the shit out of everybody in dodgeball. Yeah, both, both, same idea. But it was very cool to just see him have like a very, what's the traffic cop thing? You never heard that? It was Jim Harbaugh, right?

Yeah. It was just, when he was at Stanford, I believe. He was just, when he got, I don't know the full context of like where he was, I think he was on his way to practice or something and he ended up stopping and watching this traffic cop, this lady who was just like absolutely handling business and just every obviously traffic coming from all directions.

And she just was five steps ahead in her own head and just, he tells the story like brilliantly about like what a competent professional. And like I just sat there watching, you know, just her do her craft. Like as it was just absolutely amazing. And I just think there watching, you know, just her do her craft like as it was just absolutely amazing and I just think about that all the time whatever watching, you know, someone just in their element. It's all you've heard the dodgeball in there, right? I don't think I have or no it was it was laser tag

don't know where he when he beat up on the kids. He went and got like a record number of kills of like laser tag You know like his his team just crushed the other team because he was but it and it turns out it was a bunch like Like you know 12 year olds 15 years like so kids birthday party or something. Hey, what's the word? Where was Keith clear water this week? I don't know any word couldn't get a straight answer streak might have ended Which you know what like their friends of ours, Tothi, and, you know, everybody, we gotta do better with the sponsor exemptions out there, guys.

Like, they get more of them than any other tournament because they're an invitation and like, they do less with any other tournament. Well, we have a guest that just called into the hotline here on the podcast, who, you know, we were just discussing, may have taken a little while on a drop earlier on here to explain himself, Mr. Scott Stollings, are you still behind the 12th green? I figured Trump was going to wear me out about that.

Take us through that. Take us, you see the TIO? Take us through the whole process. Oh, man. Well, first of all, I hit that 9-0 and about 200 yards. We thought it was going to jump, but I mean, there's a jumper and then there's what that one did. But I mean, it was kind of odd ruling

because they had the shot-length camera and the camera tower, and they did it as one. And normally, on a shot- shot length you get either side, but in that sense because the camera tower and the shot length tower were together, you didn't get either side. So then my nearest relief to get away from it was essentially in the hazard.

And then through, where we, then we didn't even really look at where the ball was. We were just immediately trying to figure out where the relief was. Then we go over there and my ball is on a sprinkler head. That's right by the 13th tee. So then I dropped from that and then it ends up getting me to the other side. And then I got that huge sign. That's just randomly there.

About halfway through, I thought about asking the rules official bike, is like, can you just give me bogey and let me go to the next slide? I shouldn't be back here like, can I just make five and be done? But man, that was, I don't know what it looked like on TV, but it was definitely a bizarre ruling for disabled. Well, Patrick Reed's drop at the farmers ruined because they will never cut away from a good deal. I'm not sure if it's going to be a good deal.

I'm not sure if it's going to be a good deal. I'm not sure if it's going to be a good deal. I'm not sure if it's going to be a good deal. I'm not sure if it's going to be a good deal.

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I'm not sure if it's going to be a good deal. I'm not sure if it's going to be a good deal. I'm not sure if it's going to be a good deal. I'm not sure if it's going to be a good deal. I'm not sure if it's going to be a good deal. I'm not sure if it's going to be a good deal. I'm not sure if it's going to be make a lot of mistakes on that back nine. But tell us about playing in those conditions today. Myself included. Man, it was like, we knew it was going to get windy. We knew that the gusts were supposed to be higher kind of coming down that like, you know,

after about four o'clock, it was upwards of 30 miles an hour. And man, you're just trying to give yourself as many opportunities to make stress free part as possible possible. And at one point I got up and down the bunker five times in a row from seven to 11. It is seven, eight, nine, 10 and 11 and had that wild thing on 12 and 13, man. I don't know what it looked like on TV, but I mean, it's in off the left 190 to a back right pin. Look pretty easy. I thought yeah, I don't know. Just yeah, playing golf on TV. Easy. How much firmer did the greens get as a day went along?

Honestly, not that much firmer, but just the visual like I bet. I don't I'm sure I'm not alone. There was a bunch of ball because they the temperature they just look significantly faster than they were. So you'd get this like downhill like running away like I had a good shot on 16 and had you know 15 footer kind of up and over and Harold like barely hit his and it went three feet by the same line and I leave my shorts like Manage just looks then you get the ball rolling kind of going down line and I leave my shorts like manage just looks then you get the ball rolling kind of going downwind and you know kind of anything can happen but I mean they did

an unbelievable job sitting it up any place that we play that's 7,000 yards of single digits under par of winds like it's a good test and you know it's kind of one of those mean very few in par between on tour that you can make a cut on the number and, you know, essentially have a chance to win. And, I mean, Colonial stood the test time. I saw the stuff you guys do with Gil as far as the renovation he's going to do. I have no doubt he's going to do a great job. Hopefully they don't use the same sand they did at Southern Hills.

Oh, you know what? I was going to ask about that. I was going to let you finish, but getting up and down five times in a row, I need to ask you, is it the sand a colonial too good and too easy to hit out of? Now, man, you can get in some funky spots. I don't know if you guys saw my line number one. Like, I mean, you could definitely get in some trusted situations. But, I mean, for the most part, I mean, the only one that was probably dicey was on a, but that was so far up on the upslope. It was fun. Maybe not short-solid, but I mean, I missed with plenty of green dead,

but like, I'm sure y'all loved it, but those green dead, that was just a bunker set at Southern Hills were rough, man. Like, I know, I couldn't believe the drastic, the staff were so crazy, man. It was too, you know, you guys got up and down two percent less than you do on the PTA tour average. So that's so crazy. I know, man. I like it. How, Scott, how much do you, do you, like, how much pressure you put on yourself really, really step up to the plate and peak for a week like this, like being somebody that's,

that's not a bomber out on tour and, you know, like a harbor town or a colonial or a traveler's like how much more emphasis do you put on those events just knowing that, you know, hey, this probably suits suits my game a little bit more. I don't know. I mean, I think I hit it far enough. I mean, but I'm not I'm not dogging you, but I'm saying like you, you're you're definitely not a bombing gouged guy like you're, you know, you play well and kind of classic courses, right? Yeah, I mean, this is definitely one of my favorite course we plan to or I've had

a couple chances to win here. Harbor count not so much, but you know, I thank you any place that, you know, rewards ball striking. I was second from T-Degrean. You know, it's someplace that I've been doing. Harbor County not so much, but I think any place that rewards ball striking, I was second for T-Degrean. It was some place that I tried to prop myself on and put myself in opportunities.

I kind of knew that going in with the wind and kind of everything that was going on. Just trying to do myself as many chances as I could. But man, towards the end, the gust or out of control. I don't know what my plot looked like on 14, but it looked like the ball had a seizure about halfway to the hole. I mean, we regret it kind of inside right, and I've basically almost missed it a couple of.

So, I mean, just stuff like that. I mean, at some point, you start to make your best guess and, you know, kind of cross your fingers and try to hit it in between them. But I mean, the guys did a great job kind of getting it ready. And I was happy with the week. Wish I could have kind of tied it up a little bit yesterday and the day, but overall, a lot of positives. Scott, I want to ask a question kind of about your career

because it's always kind of fascinating me that I don't want to say the good weeks come out of nowhere but you have like, there's a lot of, you know, cut, cut, T5, cut, cut, cut, T6. Like they, when you play well, you play really, really well. And I guess first of all, like, do you agree with that and second of all, how do you kind of explain that or how does it feel when you get into one of those modes? Well, a little bit of a, I asked,

I don't know if y'all have done anything with any stats guys, but Hunter Stewart helps me, probably helps Fiverr Sookvigaz out here playing at the Andy, never one ever in the world. And he's giving my year in report last year. And at the top he's like, stop being the same person every week. He said you have no, you have no variance. He said you have no you have no variance. He said you have no nuance in your game. He said you drive it like

this. You wedge it like this, you chip like this, you put like this. And he said you basically do that 25 weeks a year. He said you don't have enough variance off your baseline to have the big weeks. And he said the big weeks is what separates you from, you know, outside the 100 FedEx guy to you know a guy that has multiple chances to win throughout the course of the season and that was kind of the goal that you know you were going to kind of go to the course with a pocket full of money and you were going to own the casino or you're going to be broken five minutes and that was kind of unfortunately or fortunately that's kind of the way the game is going.

Do you see these guys that just go and play super aggressive for four or five weeks and have multiple chances to win and have a couple top-top finishes and then miss three or four cuts? Like the days of the top 25, I just think when the guys get up there and get close, you're still going for more and more opportunities like that. So that was kind of the goal for the year. And, you know, that was kind of, and, you know, now I'm, you know, the highest FedEx have been in a while

and you'll look forward to, you know, a few more events in the season. So like, procedurally, like, what do you do to chase that a little bit? Like, like, how do you, how do you become more, more high variance? A little bit of it is just, you know, look at some of your baseline stuff of what

you've done, how you played certain holes and, you know, understanding when you can push it like nine, the perfect example at colonial, everyone, how plays out the same spot when they put the pin in the back. Like it's an awesome opportunity to hit driver up there and kind of skip something up there. Nine, by the way, we said this me and Harold both said this in the fairway. That by the way, we said this me and Harold both said this in the fairway. That is the most uncomfortable 140-yard shot we play on tour from with, there's no slow or no like elevation. It's just like a relatively back-to-front green over a little bit of water from a flat fairway. I just don't see how many there that has to be the most

misgreen on tour from the fairway from with like a wedge or not. It's just the wind's kind of coming in and out and you never have like a perfect club. But a little bit of like game planning and just understanding and when you have certain pins or certain things that you're going to kind of tend to push it in or you or instead of just playing on the same spot every single time, no matter where the pin is. So it's mostly strategic, mostly, like, instead of working on a certain element of your game, it's just course management stuff.

A little bit of course management and understanding kind of like where you kind of left a little bit of area where you kind of left, you know, a little bit of, you know, area to improve, you know, kind of throughout, you know, especially this is my 12 season. I'm kind of a lot of data to understand like, why I've done well in places and why I've done boards and places and you kind of tweak that a little bit different and like perfect example, I thought, well, Hollow was the worst course on tour that I liked if that made sense. For example, I thought Kwell Hollow was the worst course on tour that I liked if that made sense. Like, I liked it and I've just never played well there.

So Hunter basically built a plan for me to free me up a little bit off the tee. And I was in the second till I played bad on Sunday, but I was in the second to last group on Sunday, a situation where I had never been on a course like that. So, I mean, I didn't execute very well coming down the stretch, but I was in a position where I could have done something I wouldn't have a chance to do otherwise. So, there's a lot of game planning and a lot of stuff that tries to just give you a chance

to build off of what you do weekend and weekend and then having a couple of opportunities to kind of peek throughout the schedule. Scott, I was gonna ask you when you were talking about the, Hey, Randy. Hey, Scott. Great to be doing it, Sven. I may have, or earlier in this podcast,

compared you to somebody who works at Globo Gym from the Dodge Pull. What's your, with your facial hair, I love it. We were talking last week at the majors, how, and talking to Max Homo specifically, and just learning to be patient in those major weeks. And I find that interesting when you're talking about, you know, this boomer bus mentality week to week

on the tour. Do you think there's anything to, you know, the major weeks kind of getting a lot more different than the week to week on tour? Is that something you've noticed over your career? Just how like a typical major week might differ from a, you know, a week like colonial perhaps? I don't know, it seems like that the major weeks.

I mean, I was in the same way of his Justin. And I mean, I know that you guys were harping on it pretty hard as well, but I mean, the rounds that he played in the way that he was in, like, no one gave that enough credit. Like, I mean, the 67 on Thursday with all the wind and everything, I remember watching Tiger play in the morning on coverage.

And I was like, and then you get out there on the course and you kind of get in your mind, all right, I saw him do this, I saw him do that. And then you get out there on the course and you kind of get in your mind, all right, I saw him do this, I saw him do that. And then you get out there on the course and you're like, well, that's not possible right now. Like watching guys fly it on the green on number six at Southern Hills and like not go in the back trees where when we played on Thursday,

you were trying to land the ball short of the green and kind of bouncing on. So I don't know if it's necessarily a, it seems in majors, guys try to clump up. It gets very similar like it does. So there's a lot of guys get around there and just kind of who can execute those last three or four holes. I mean, it was wild to see Justin being eight back with, you know, nine or 10 holes to play and then getting himself into a playoff.

But I don't think there's as much as that, but just because the major championship setup has, a little bit, not necessarily controlled with score, but there's just, it seems to be more opportunities for guys to continually play out in the same place where that more, go for broke, you're gonna see a guy, ship a driver in a place where everyone can play from the same spot and just kinda go, hey, it see a guy, you know, a ship of driver in a place where everyone can play from the same spot and just kind of go,

hey, it works out great, I'm a chance to win if not, you know, I'll deal with it again next week. Scott, last question I think for us is what, what's it like playing with, like, I mean, Harold, like down the stretch, like was he just shelf-shocked after the, you know, the, the couple of triples and after after the you know the the couple of triples and the quad know you know yeah I don't know if he's ever been with you guys or whatever but I mean I can't say enough about his attitude of

power handle himself honestly I had no idea I mean it I don't know how long that drop took on 12 but it seemed like forever and I mean he had an unbelievable drive on 12, and probably had a wedge into the grid. And I got done, and I had no idea what he made. And I asked my caddy, and that city made a seven. And honestly, you would have never hit in the water on the next hole,

and then got an awful break on 14, and small kicked right and went out of bounds. And I mean, he's handling himself great, signed autographs, did some media, did everything, but you know, you kind of get on a windy day like that, you kind of get going on a bad side, to kind of anything can happen. He got some rough breaks as well, but I mean, honestly, we were both just kind of, you drag grab with the steering wheel and hanging on for dear life. Well, thanks so much for calling in man we really appreciate the insight this was this was fantastic and safe to have a soul

and congrats on a great week. Awesome Randy is in the time for the facial hair to go. Is it a crapper help? Do I need to grow? What do I need to do here? Like I just need to see it's a no. No, please don't take that the wrong way. I think it's cool. I think you look I think you look bad at Yeah, keep it going. Yeah. Yeah, I know that you guys are the the word beyond a lot of unusual situations So so if it's a crap or help or something that needs to be improved on No, I'm a I'm mature enough. I can handle it. You going to Columbus right now? Are you going home? Yeah? Yeah, my wife's delayed so I'm hanging out with you guys must handle it. You going to Columbus right now? Are you going home? Yeah, my wife's delayed some, hanging out with you guys.

Must be American. Are you fine American? 100%. I'm a Delta God through and through. And man, I don't know how people do it. I don't know how people do it. They did it to support the show tonight, so you could call in. I salute American for that.

Literally the worst airline on the planet. All right, that's all the time we have you could call in. I salute American for that. Literally the worst airline on the planet. All right, that's all the time we have for tonight. Scott. Thank you. It's a prayer Scott. See you, buddy. Thank you. See you Scott. God, tell him to us real, huh? How about it? I think that puts puts the Schwab to bed. I think we got,

yeah, we had an hour and 15 plus of constant. No, I didn't either. I didn't need that. But one last thing. I'm gonna stick my, I'm gonna stick my neck out. Oh, Hossler. He's gonna win one of these weeks. I think it's, I think it's coming. A lot of good three round tournaments for him. It just with one really bad run that that cost him. But fieldless for live was supposed to come out on Friday. It did not. Allegedly, This could not be more alleged. I think

I heard one player mentioned that it allegedly, it's because the guys in the field at Schwab didn't want the list to come out while they were in the middle of a tournament on a Friday afternoon, whenever that was going to come out. That's right. Me reaping me so. No, I would love to, I would love all the money. I just, I don't want to answer any questions about it, if. Which yeah, heroic shit from our boys. Asked a couple guys who were the who are the ins officially and the consensus seems to be. And again, this is this is some guys that have heard this. I don't know if it's factual and there's no point in doing this because again,

the list will probably be out by the time we do this. But Polter Westwood, Ustaz and McDowell, Noss, Sergio, were pretty much rolling off the tongue as far as. –Hokrack expected. –Not in allegedly. –Aledgily? No, Kokrack. Now, I heard two different things. One, that the Saudis did not meet his number, whatever that means, which is, it's amazing.

–What are the best sets of their- –They didn't go all in. –Hokrack's got a number. –That, I mean, that, what a world. –But also heard, the only reason he's not going to London is because we're letting that weekend. So he didn't know be at the future ones. I don't know. I truly don't know. I heard Harold was waiting for the OWGR stuff to get figured out, I guess. But again, we're going to know all this by tomorrow, hopefully, but we've heard that the James is it P out or P out? P out P out. He got offered what two million? I don't know what he got offered, but he's on the list.

USAM champ. USAM champ. Chase Capka. Chase Capka's way in. They're offering some of the top collegiate guys 200k per event. Cool, cool. Right now I heard DJ 150 million is on the table now. That's the one that like yeah, it should huh like I don't even know

150 million and then DJ's on the list tomorrow. I'll be stunned and then there's a guy on the on the pack Yeah, on the board James on put in a a allegedly James hot has put in it put in a release To play in a lot to the event and he's on the board of the PGA tour. Not just on the not just on the pack on the board. Or the board. What are the four player directors? He's keeping an eye out of it. Which is the line's dead.

But it's actually not vaccinated. So we can't play Canada that week. And so put it a release to try to play the letter to which he's to died. That's incredible. Which I don't know thing that you just described. Which I don't know how I don't you know what? I don't know thing that you just described. Yeah. Which I don't know how, I don't know what, I don't know how he's gonna survive over there because the entire mantra for the tour is,

for the tour is, get loud, go up the ladder. He doesn't like loudness. He can hear you, he can hear you in those chips, man. Yeah. No crisps, no crisps out there. T.C. what's gonna, I just wanna know, what's gonna happen to your president's cup team. That's what I was gonna say to you.

I mean, it all hinge, you know, I think, I think cams probably safe. I think leash is probably safe. I think, uh, Joaquin, uh, I don't know about honest Abe, uh, Mito seems like he's a safe bet to stay. Uh, newstays and months on the team team of now, but I assume would not be. Yeah, that's fine. You know, and then we got all sorts of horses in the back. We got Sebastian Munoz. We got, you know, all sorts of dogs, Kated Nakajima, you know, all sorts of guys.

So I'm not worried. OK. I'm not worried. Derek Higo. Cool. How's he done since he won? Not great. He's 160 first in the FedEx Cup. Yeah, Eric Higo. Cool. That was a Density one. Not great. He's 160 first in the FedEx Cup. It's so far though.

Yeah, yeah, anything else on on not only on a couple of shocking miscuts, Kevin Kizner. I know he circles this one. I could kind of like what we're talking about with stallings. Like he circles this one as calendar. Stalling's like well above average distance, by the way. Really? Yeah.

Okay. I apologize. I didn't want to hop it on that right away. I just like I play with him a couple times and like he doesn't like he's not like beat your ass. Absolutely. Moving and he's just like he's just like long he's just like a regular tour player length. Right.

To the not bombing gouges thing. He's he's plus point four driving distance and minus point eight driving accuracy. He might be. He's like very Bob again. That might be his new thing though. Being being higher variance. Team Rose, Mr. Cutt, Will's all a tourist, Mr. Cutt, JT first street because over 25 starts really. We're laughing about, I went to dinner with Max, we were laughing about just kind of kind of what I was saying a little bit on some level about the Sam Burns thing where it's like man when you you have a tour player explain it to you It makes so much more sense than like a casual fan and that's of course how the tiger cuts streak is oh my god

Right, which was like 151 or 142 142 and JT was the longest I think by a bit of a margin on the PJ tour at like 21 or 25. It was 25 or something like that. Yeah, just like five or a year, it's a band of years, you're there. Which JT's skipping memorial is interesting. He's playing before the week before majors this year. And it worked out pretty well for him the last one. So he's going to be playing Canada and had to call Jack this week and tell him he's not coming to memorial.

Jack threatened to drop out of Panther National Jacks that are you recording this football for legal reasons. Now Florida's a Florida's a a two party state. Oh, got you. I'm stoked for Canada. I think Canadian Open St George can be awesome. It's a like proper proper test, I think. One last question for you, Sally.

Call on more color. Any worries there? Any concerns? Bad of putting. I'd like to. Randy. No, I'd like to direct this to Randy, who staked this block out as his boy. I mean, this is so, so more. I was. Because PGA, you, you, you admitted concern, Randy? Of course. Yeah. Of course. Of course. Of course. You know, you, you know, some weeks you don't have, of course, you know, you're some weeks you just don't have it and

You know, we're gonna we're gonna learn from this week. We're gonna get better And I expect them to play well Brooklyn T 40 at a week where it's like oh, this is ball strikers only Hogan's alley You know shape and shots all that stuff Little wind gets up T 40 putting numbers. It all potting them. Do you want my honest? You guys want me to be real for a second? Real real. Real. I'm a little worried. I'm a little worried my guy calling might be a complete empty vessel

That's that's the number one worry I have right now. Yeah, I can't just from a From a track man golfer perspective or not a not a great why are you doing like NFT projects and what like I just some very concerned he's he's just a bit of an ad might a bit of an ad mule yes yes I will say I you know what I might be ball striking Ricky I'll that would be tough guys many people are saying he hasn't won stateside since the concession He's he's one of he's won a couple big dick events. He's one DP world One the British open for somebody by her majesty the queen last year

But otherwise he is not one Since the concession and I would like to assume apology. He did ballstrike the shit out of it this week So I'll stand out in that regard. Thank you for that. Seven, thank you. Randy, can you tell us what happened with the LPGA match play this week? Yeah, so as of right now, it looks like we are recording before the final match has gone final, but it looks like Unhee G is going to win.

She's two up through 14, or I just put the ultimate kiss of death on her. But yeah, you know, so I watched a lot of match play this week and I'm disappointed in a few things. I think the biggest thing is the spot in the calendar right now is very tough for a couple of reasons. It's the week before the US Women's Open, which next year that will change that the Women's Open is going to a new spot. So that should help with the field. But right now you're playing the week before a major,

and you're out in Las Vegas at the end of May, it's so hot. And to ask these ladies to potentially play seven rounds in five days, the week before a major championship. It's just a really big ask. And so you saw a lot of big names skipping on top of that, you know, Nelly Corda, some some injuries as well. But the field, honestly, not great this year, which is a disappointment. And I'm curious what you guys think. I'm I'm over pool play for these match play events. Like let's just go right into a knockout format. I'm over pool play for these match play events. Like, let's just go right

into a knockout format. I'm glad we tried pool play, but let's just go back to the knockout is where I fall out. I'm also getting to the point with this match play is kind of reminds us of like, hey, this is why we can't have nice things because it's like the, you know, I mean, Lily of who's been playing great golf, Andrea Lee's of like a promising young player. But it's like the, you know, I mean, Lily of who's been playing great golf, Andrea Lee's a promising young player. But it's just like the big names. It was like one of those carls bad. This fits better in the winter. Kevin Sutherland. Doesn't it? Like it just fits better in the winter for both temperature and, you know, just a memorial day weekend. There's not a lot of people that are like tuning in to watch.

Like going to NBC Gold to watch it, I think you had to do today for the semi-final matches. Like it's supposed to be a big event for them. Yeah, it's just not. It's never not quite working for me. Well, on top of all that, they don't even allow real fans there. In order to attend the event, you have to like buy a fake like fake people three nights. They at the hotel. No, so it's like, you know, it's purely put on for these VIP hotel guests. And like, if I'm spending any actual fans out there, I'm spending that much money to stay. They're like, I'm not going to do it. Go watch golf when it's 150 degrees. Yeah, it's exactly. Yeah. It was good to see Madeline play well. I was going to say, low key that might have

been the best possible result for Madeline. Yes. Kick ass in the pool play, lose to what looks like it's going to be the eventual champion. Get out of there a little bit early, save your legs a couple rounds and go to the youth women's open. Seven and six is tough. Do you have any? Sure.

To my knowledge, I've never lost. Best practices. I've never lost seven and six. I wouldn't worry about that. Was it six and five? It was. Yeah. When you found the ball off the duck hook.

That was what, that was what sank me. I was, I was coming for it. We're not a whole, we're in a whole situation. Uh, this was gosh, a couple of week, uh, I'm, feels like a couple of weeks ago now, but early this week on golf channel, I hope you watched it live. Uh, team rose in the game.

NCAA women's champions, DJ Pi had a chance to talk with Rose and Rachel. We're going to hear from them here shortly. But what what what what what a thought that little little interest, little content built around this all of a sudden I was glued to the NCAA women's championship. How about that, man? What a what a you know, we would love to take credit for having some, you know, great vision on this. I think it's it's it was helped by this historically being like one of the greatest teams on the men's or women's side ever built. So that helps. But yeah, I'm with you, man. You get to know, get to know the players, get to know the

coaches, get to know kind of the road and the ups and downs and ebbs and flows. And I mean, you saw me even four words or glued to our phone watching the coverage in the bar. I mean, it was awesome. You kept saying team rose. I'm like, why are you so into Justin Rose this week? I don't understand it. And yeah, it turns out there was a, of course, Rose sang one of the individual title on Monday as well. So which I talked to you about that a little bit. It's, it's, you can hear it in the interview,

but the difference between, I just think it's really fascinating to have a player like Rose, who's won basically everything she can win up into this point, right, other than maybe the on-one, right? But, what she should have won. What she should have won, but that's another story. But having a player like that that's won so much individually, like have the ability to both win an individual title and play for that like team stress that everybody talks about in the same week is just a really really cool event and I'm dying to go the NCAA is at some point.

Randy, we need to make that happen. I just wish they weren't a grayhawk every year. Like this. But low key. Greyhawk was kind of cool coming down the stretch. I don't know what you thought, Reeny. There are reasons why I like Greyhawk and there are reasons why I don't like Greyhawk. I mean, just got done talking about how freaking hot it is in Las Vegas for the women playing match play. I mean, it's a huge asset.

I have these college kids because the men are playing this week. It's hot in the desert. So that's hard. But yeah, I get having a course that's not really a home course and having a neutral playing field. I think I like that in theory, although some of the college courses added some charm, which I really enjoyed.

So I'm okay with Greyhawk. Now correct me if I'm wrong. Are they going to Lakinta? No, they're going to the costor. Yeah, they're going to the cost it on Carl's bad, which Gil is going to redo. Gil and Jim are going to do. So I will say I'm excited to see that, especially with Gil doing work there.

Yeah, so that'll start in 2024. They go there. So next year and then it was windy for the guys today. I saw a tweet from Lancer Engler that when was blowing even harder than at colonial Ludwig shot 71, 71, 71, 71 so far. The putter is cold right now. He's playing his absolute worst golf and he's like, he's like T 13 or something T 12.

Tronza Anglin for another international team. Does that say I want to be a captain's pick. Go ahead, me. Sorry. No, I was just going to follow up on Stanford. You know, with the doc, we obviously spent a lot of time profiling Rachel and Rose and obviously for good reason. But it was really cool to see the depth play out for Stanford. And really like Brooks,

a lean crowder won all three of their matches and just speaks to, you know, the talent that was on that team and I don't want to say like unsung heroes, but as far as like our video project, there were more unsung. So just I don't know. I'm like you DJ, Sully, like it was, man, I felt like I had a really favorite team to root for. And it was really fun watching them seal the deal and win the championship. I think a lot of times a story like this and they come up short and it's like, man, that was almost too good to be true. But they cashed it in and it was just it was it was awesome. Sweet. Well why don't we turn it over to

to Rose Zhang and Rachel Heck and we'll be back. Got a US Women's Open preview coming on Tuesday and then we'll be back with Memorial and US Women's Open recap this coming weekend. The men's fun around tomorrow. That's right. right? Or the, the Monday, if I don't have a stroke play and like the top five guys or like, like five of the top, like 10 guys early in the top five, like it's crazy, like the cream is rising to the top. Gordon Sargent, this kid from Vanderbilt, Chris Godderub, Eugenio Lopez, Cushara, Patrick Welsh, Parker Cudi, like all the, all the hitters are coming out to play.

William Mao, Cameron Sisk, Cole Hammer, Ludwig, all of them. So you know, I need to point out for just for the historical record and for any college teams that, you know, Randy, we see what happens with these endowments, these athletic budgets, you know, private flights, all kinds of things going on. We've made two visits to Stanford that I know of. We went there once for Taurus sauce the men won the NCAA championship We went there again for this doc in the women won the NCAA championship So if any teams, you know want to put a proposal together, you know, right?

We don't spend very much money on the road. We're very we're very low key Five is a good air BAB will be will be at your campus staked out if anybody's really serious about winning a national title Just just let us know. It's amazing. Brooke and Aline like they beat this shit out of us. Yeah. They really did. All right, fellas, we will see you back here next week and enjoy Rachel Heck and Rosang.

Cheers. All right, thrilled to be joined by two of our brand new, minted NCAA champions, a couple of individual NCAA champions, Rose Zang and Rachel Heck. Good morning. It's early over there for you guys. Thank you for getting up. And Rachel, I know you were watching Top Gun last night.

I'm sure things got rowdy, late. Rose, you got all kinds of projects. You got to get done. I appreciate you guys hopping on. How are you guys doing? Pretty good. I mean, yeah, it's crazy that we're here now and we're national champions.

And I mean, just being able to have the team and for us to be able to do that, that's the goal we had all season. And we made it. We have to pretty good feeling. Well, Rose, let me start with you. So there's a lot of people who talk about, you know, the Ryder Cup and President's Cup and Soulheim team events,

you know, there's just such a different stress between playing for an individual title and playing for a team title. Not many people get to do it in the same week in the same tournament. So I want to start with you. Obviously, you won the individual title this week. What was the like coming down the stretch on each of those?

Well, how did the stress level differ and what did it feel like on the final day of the individual versus the final day of the team finals? I was on a stressful platform in both kind of scenarios coming down the stretch individually. I knew that Jenny Park was coming in hot and she was really just playing really well, really silly, so I couldn't make any more mistakes than I already had. And that was a little bit stressful in my part just because I had, my game wasn't going too well that day, but coming down the stretch, I just tried to stay within myself and really allowed myself to kind of just play the best I could and execute. But I feel like coming into the team event or going into 17, that was when kind of my heart kind of started beating really fast.

And I really had to just mentally compose myself. This point was most important. And everyone was done with their matches. They were all watching. And I couldn't afford to let them down. So they were both pretty stressful, but I feel like I couldn't have it any other way. That 17th hole was really cool to watch too. I haven't been wild about the, you know,

parking the this tournament at Greyhawk every year, but that that pain on the back shelf on 17 was very like step up and hit a shot or or you're probably going home, which was, you know, kind of what you asked for in in televised golf, I think Rachel Rose kind of mentioned this coming in like expectations. Obviously you guys were the number one, you know, favorite coming into the season. You yourself were defending NCAA champion. You win six times last year. You got people falling around with cameras, tournaments. You got all kinds of all kinds of stuff going on. What was it felt like this year and what did it feel like to finally have that pay off? Yeah, I think that's been our biggest challenge the whole year. It's just the expectations. But people expected so much from us because we have such a strong team. And yeah, I think that was hard. And I think a lot of the season didn't go exactly how we wanted. Everyone expected us to win every tournament by 30. And we didn't do that. We lost to some really great teams, but I'm just so proud of the way we handle that

and the way we just focus on our team and we weren't looking at what the outside world was saying about us. We were just focused on each other and working hard for the person next to you, not working hard to please some reporter. And I obviously that paid off for. I mean, this is like we said, what we worked for the whole year from day one coach like it doesn't even need to be stated. We know what our goal is this year. And we did that and. We are talking about this before, but I mean, this isn't the no individual win could ever compare to this. Nothing compares to holding up the trophy with your best friends. It's just a different feeling.

I can't believe you got to experience it. Well, and you are uniquely qualified to talk about that, right? Winning the individual last year and not getting the team title and what, you know, what, take me through your kind of mind on that final round on Wednesday. What was that? You know, how was it different? What was the feeling like out there watching everybody? Yeah. Oh my gosh. We were, I know most of us, I don't know about Rose honestly, but the rest of us were nervous. I mean, you wake up and you don't sleep great. Like all you can think about is like,

you're this close to it. You're this close to bringing home a national championship, but you gotta go out one more day and grind through it. And I mean, I've never felt that before because when you're playing for an individual title, it's about yourself. You're joking. I was like, yeah, you come off the course,

your parents are proud of you and call it a day. But this is about so much more than that. This is about my four best friends on the holds in front of me and behind me. So you're not playing for yourself. You're playing for them. And I mean, this applies to both of you guys obviously, but for Rose specifically since this was your first year in college golf.

I mean, I think there were a lot of people who said, you know, she's won so much already. She could turn pro right now. And I think one of the, one of the things that struck me, certainly spent a little bit of time with you guys and seeing the kind of behind the scenes of the program is like there's so much more to college golf, college experience, all of that than just preparing for pro golf, right?

And, and you know, assuming you agree with that, I'm curious if you can kind of assess what the last year has been like for you. And, and kind of almost like some of the stuff you would have missed out on if you would have turned pro right away and, and how you're feeling about that. It's crazy. I mean, I always knew that I wanted to come to college.

It was specifically me trying to dedicate myself to play for the team to stay present every single day and know that we have this huge goal of trying to win national champions with the team. And I just, I literally would have missed everything if I didn't come to college. I wouldn't have met the best friends I could ask for on the team. I've gained 10 new best friends and I've met so many amazing people. They have inspired me so much to just be better as a person and as a character off the golf course. And it's just amazing the environment here really allows you to thrive and just kind of allow you to be more independent. You're away from home and It's just I feel like I would have really regretted not coming here in general And I feel like people always ask me when are you gonna turn pro?

Why did you choose to go to college? but I think all these questions are kind of but I think all these questions are kind of answered already. We're here and I'm just so happy to be here. And like Rachel said, there's no individual win that can talk what we just did. After I finished my individual win this past week, I was just, oh, pretty happy. Oh, home, like my teammates came up, we hugged like it was cute. But then when it came down to match play and to the team portion, I was this pumping. I never this pump. I'm pretty stoked on the golf course. And I was just trying to really grind through every single match, every single shot, and every

small hole. So when it came down to that final put and I made it, I fist home. Like I never do that. And it just shows that like, it's just so important to me that I'm like a part of this amazing team. And I'm a part of my best friends kind of like success and our school's success. Well that again that's kind of what I'm alluding to is like that doesn't seem like something that you'd want to run away from right you only have kind of four years of opportunity to participate that and you kind of hopefully have the rest of your life to play professional golf. I'm curious from both of your guys' perspectives, I mean, obviously you both have done some NIL deals

and have had some income, you know, come in while you're in college. How does that affect that decision, if at all? Rose probably might have a different answer than me. For me, it's just kind of bonus. I've said from the very beginning that I'm not going anywhere. And I'd say at the beginning, you know, in high school, I knew I was going to stay in college and I think the mindset was, it was for that degree to get that piece of paper at the end, but I don't know, maybe you go for

the degree and stay for the people because that's not really, you know, what I'm thinking about anymore. I can't imagine leaving this team. I know when it's all over two years, I'm going to cry my eyes out not when I leave it. But the NIL has been really cool just to know that when I do go out on tour, there'll be stresses that I don't have to worry about. I'll be able to travel, be able to try to get my place on tour, which is really cool to know that I can start doing on college. Rosa, Rafia. Yeah, I totally agree with that actually. I came in the college and this is my freshman year, and I always knew, and for us to just be able to have

a little bit of money come in, a little bit of income, really allows us to kind of just not feel as much pressure for the real world. And I think it's great in general just for athletes to stay in college and for us to kind of earn a little bit of money on the sidelines. But yeah, I mean, I feel like it's just, I don't really have I don't really have any kind of like for your plan, not like Rachel. I'm kind of just going along for the ride. I don't really know what I'm doing. I really just, you know, I feel like just living in the present and really having these deals allows me to kind of guide myself in any direction I kind of want to. And I feel like that's just such an amazing opportunity

for me and Rachel to have. Everything's just going pretty, pretty swiftly. You know, I'm still gonna stay Stanford. So there's not me turning pro this year, and I'm all for it. And hopefully the Calaway deal or some of the other deals allowed you to get a new bike as well. Cause I know that was a struggle.

That was really funny. I heard that it was a go-fun. I mean, that was proposed. People were reaching out to me on the message board, like, hey, how do we get this girl a new bike, man? That's really a struggle. I think she's, I think she's fine. Okay. Thank you. Thank you guys for reaching out. We'll be fine. If not, just walk and I'm going to have a car of campus. So we'll be good.

Well, just a couple more. I'll let you guys out of here. Rachel, I know the spring, obviously, and you know, a lot of people who are who are listening to this probably watch the doc that we made on you guys. Obviously, it didn't seem like there were too many health issues the week that we were following you. But it sounded like shortly after that, it's been a bit of a struggle this spring. I don't know if you can shed any light on that and kind of where you're at in that process. Yeah, it's been a really brutal spring. It started on, I was see at spring break, we played in Arizona. I wasn't feeling grave and not terrible.

I played at Gusta in the last day, the finer out of the Gusta, you know, one of the coolest days ever. I was like, all I could think about was falling asleep. I was like in Aben's corner and I was like, how come all I wanted to do is just to leap right now? And I got off the course and I usually, last year I stayed and watched the end.

I was like, guys, I'm not a good bed. And after that, I like knew something was wrong. I did not feel at all. And a few days later, I tested Boston for a month. And I really didn't touch a club all spring. I was just in bed all day every day. My two mates were so great. They're bringing me food. I was so bored. Oh my every day. My two ways were so great. They're bringing me food.

I was so bored. Oh my god, I was bored out of my mind. It's so hard to be away from the team when things are really ramping up when post season is starting, what we've been working for all years actually happening. And I just have to sit there and refresh life scoring and cheer on the team. And yeah, I tried to play at Regionals. I played the first round and then had to tap out and that just killed me. It's so hard to do. And I was pretty worried about Nationals having those seven days in a hundred degree weather.

It was brutal for sure. It was a health wise not the best, but I think we bought out the entire CVS pharmacy. Rose and I, Rose is the best. We were rooming together every morning. I would just wake up and like, clearing up our lungs and just coughing and feeling terrible. She would go to the bathroom, get a warm towel, like warm towel and place it over my face and tell me to breathe in. It was so cute. So everyone took care of me. But I mean, if it weren't individual event, if I just had some of individual events that week, there's no way I would have been playing,

but this was about more than me. I wanted to grind it out for the team. And then last question for me, for both of you guys, I think again, a lot of the people who watched the the doc, I think, you know, obviously came away very, very impressed with both of you and your composure and your golf, but overwhelmingly so many people commented, remarked, emailed message, whatever about Coach Walker. And just her poise, her coaching style, her, her, you know, communication skills. Just I'm curious if you guys could, could shed any light on, on kind of what she she was like this week and then also, you know, just kind of playing for her in general Rachel start start with you. Yeah, I mean, she's one of the big reasons I wanted to go to Stanford. I met her and She's such a strong, independent woman. She just teaches us how to behave, how to act on and off the golf course. And she cares so much more about our lives than just our golf. I mean, no other coach in the country would let me do RTC. That's crazy. That's

out there. But she recognized that that was a passion I had and wanted me to pursue it. We talk all the time about how there's so much more than golf and how we're at Stanford for a reason. all the time about how there's so much more than golf and how we're at Stanford for a reason. So I just respect her so much for that. And this week, I mean, it's like she's done it, I mean, she has done it so many times before, but she just knew exactly what to say and the team handles every morning to keep us calm, to keep us, you know, playing for each other. She, I mean, we couldn't have done it without her, that's an understanding. I completely agree with that. I mean, I also came to Stanford

because partly because of her, I already knew that she was the most disciplined coach. She was the sweetest coach and she was just the most caring, charismatic woman that I know. And I feel like for her to be that role model for us, for her to really guide would not be able to move this team the way she has. And I wholeheartedly believe that every single thing that she has done has just been out of care and love for the entire team. And just for our well-being, she actually, every single person would go into her office and then we would have these long chats.

And even though it may seem a little scary at first, it just makes the entire team environment and the coaching environment so much more lively, like free and it's a lot more open. It's like an open space that we can just say whatever we want. And she really cares about that. She's just the one person that I'm like, there's no one that can talk her off.

Like there's no one. She is the one coach that I will always just be so admirable for. And I just, there's no words to describe it. But her poise on the golf course too is simply amazing. Just for her to kind of like keep that composure, it's hard for any coach to do that, first of all. And for her to be able to just have And for her to be able to just have these six people on the team and giving us pep talks every single morning, giving us meetings times like every single night for us. She even bought us unicorn books for us to have like collective team goals and just individual goals as well. So for her to think about these little details,

it really says a lot about her coaching style and it really says a lot about her. I think that was one of my favorite things going through the edit process for the doc we made is just, you know, we would mic her up for kind of chunks of a time at on the golf course and just how differently she knows how to manage each player right she's she's talking to think of someone that you know, I've admired more from a Just competency perspective just like man that that person makes me feel so incompetent at my job because I have no idea what I'm doing and it seems like she is just so on it with everything she does so it's

I'm really glad people got to see that well. I will I'll let you guys get back to it I know you have a crazy busy schedule Rose was just saying before we hop down, she's got what four papers do or you got to make a video. She's got a move. She's got to get to the Curtis Cup. She's got to get, I mean, US women's open, not to mention. So I can't imagine going through what you guys did the last week and then also going through all that stuff. So I will let you get going. Thank you again for joining. Thanks for everything you did with the film we made. It was a pure highlight, I think, for all of us, not only for this year, but really since we started doing this. So great to meet you guys. And thank you so much for making us look

good by really closing the circle this week. Thank you for making us look good. Yeah, y'all are the best. Oh my gosh. Yeah, y'all are the best, oh my gosh. I'm gonna write club, I'll be the right club today. Yes! That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most!

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