No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 574: KPMG Women's PGA + Travelers Recap

Episode Date: June 27, 2022

A dramatic Sunday in both women's and men's golf as In Gee Chun wins the KPMG Women's PGA Championship while Xander Schauffele claims the Travelers. We start with a look at a wild Sunday in DC with an...other disappointing finish in a major for Lexi Thompson, our verdict on the new look Congressional, the setup and more.  Then it's on to TPC River Highlands for the late heartbreak for Sahith Theegala, the emergence of Michael Thorbjornsen, Xander's first solo win since 2019, Rory, Kokrak, and more. Plus the latest from the KFT, Euro Tour, PGA structure changes, LIV's roster additions and, most importantly, the Slime Cup. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:53 I hit him yesterday. How you played golf yesterday. Uh, I took a friend of the ranch. I'll catch you. Uh, we always grow on the game, Randy. And uh, first of all, there's a sweepstakes out there. I mean, so many kids. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:04 You would have hated it, Randy. And I hate that. I hit the wedges. They feel great. Now, granted, everything feels great. Off the mats. Off the mats over there. But we'll see.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Yeah, we should probably get back out and play some golf. The golf world making it pretty hard to get out there and actually do that. But, man, it's hard to imagine that Inji Chun went wire-to-wire to win the KPMG Women's PGA championship and it doesn't even feel like she's even close to the biggest story that came out of the KPMG Women's PGA today. Well, that was the weirdest wire to wire victory I've ever seen. She shot 75-75 this weekend.
Starting point is 00:02:37 There was a tweet going out if she just shot 75-75 in the first two rounds, she wouldn't have made the cut. She would have missed the cut by two. Now, some of that, you know, you... correct me if I'm wrong. You guys were there. We were there. Bad setup. Well, we'll save that. We'll save that. We'll discuss that. I probably disagree with you guys in the opposite way of what you're going to say, but we will get to that. Let's, let's stay focused. It on first of all,. Inji Chun shoots a opening round 64 that was roughly 75 strokes gained. I think that was the final number in India. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Yeah. Justin Ray confirmed that. Yeah. Can do shit. It was unbelievable. There was, that score was not out there. And it wasn't because it was windy or, you know, especially firm as literally the opposite. Like the ball wasn't going anywhere.
Starting point is 00:03:22 It was crazy long. And she was the only one to go do anything in round one. And I just I don't recall seeing somebody play so relatively average after round one and win a major championship. It just, you know, she did hit some huge shots on the back nine today when she needed to and made the clutch puts. But man, I it's weird. Injichan predates my history covering women's golf.
Starting point is 00:03:44 It's like, I have no recollection of her winning two major championships and this being her third. And it's just a, it's a weird experience. I don't have like the context really to put it in as we've only been really covering women's golf for five years or so now. But it's just, it's interesting. Three time major champion. That's as many as a surprise for me. It's a surprise for me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Now, granted, there are five women's majors as well. True. have more, more sample size, more more chances there. Yeah. I mean, I think the story of the day, Lexi, who still only has one major in just a, you know, career, what 50 plus starts only one major. It's wild. It was super painful, crazy to watch. It's amazing to watch someone be so incredibly strong at one aspect of the game. I mean, she is, I don't know if the numbers, you know, bear this out, but like one of the best, if not the best ball striker out there, she hits it incredibly long, straight. She hits a shit out of her irons. And it just, this happens so often in majors, like not, and we're not talking about like, you know, a misdate footer here and there,
Starting point is 00:04:47 like some of the worst imaginable, like Chuck Knobbler, Rick and Keele, like putting in the back nine of a Sunday, and it's weirdly captivating. I don't think it's fun to watch, but it is. Steve, for your show. Well, it's theater.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Like I don't think it's, I don't feel great watching someone like meltdown, no matter what you may think of her or whatnot, it just doesn't feel. It's a weird aspect of sports to watch somebody be so dominant in one aspect of it and just unable to get the ball in the hole. You put it right. I think you are on our Slack channel earlier. You said, quote, she's like a build a player where you used all your points or all your
Starting point is 00:05:23 resources on distance and ball striking and you just didn't use anything. We'll figure out the putting. We'll figure it out, I guess, but at least like through like 63 holes or something, Justin Ray tweeted that she was positive strokes game putting for the week. It didn't make me feel any better about what was about to happen. I mean, I it's just it was horrible. I mean, three foot putts that weren't even touching the whole, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:45 three puts from 15 feet, a skanky chip on 16 that looked horrendous. I mean, it looked like a TC chip, like the whole short grass, the whole, you know, shoulder lean and all that stuff. And man, it was, it was just tough. Big, what's, what's your reaction? Yeah, similar to what you guys experienced. It is it's compelling. It's really it's great TV. And I almost I don't know if I feel bad saying that, but man, watching Lexi try to close out a golf tournament is like as bad as good as women's golf gets, I think going back to like her and
Starting point is 00:06:28 Inji Chun, you know, you mentioned and it even predates me a little bit too. Like I don't have strong recollections of either of Inji Chun's previous major wins, but she's only 27. That's that's what's kind of crazy too is like I was expecting her to be in her mid 30s or something But she's 27 Lexi's 27. I think with Lexi specifically What's what's even more fascinating on top of obviously scar tissue in the major years? She's not winning any LPJ events. She's over three years winning any LPJ event, which is just mind-boggling for, as you said, how good she hits the ball because Magnum is sick.
Starting point is 00:07:12 She is like world-class cream of the crop, teetagreen and just cannot finish golf tournaments. It's incredible. And there's a weight she carries in terms of kind of for at least a long time, she was viewed as the great American hope when it came to the women's side. And it just looks like she is just mega not cut out for that to carry that cross. Like it just, it's not, like I said, the putts were not close. I mean, their effort on 18 to win from mid range did not scare the one.
Starting point is 00:07:44 The one, I mean, the one and a half or two footer. I mean, it didn't touch the whole. I mean, it was like a fade away. And, yeah, it, it, it, but like there's actual context there. Like we've seen her do this. We literally saw her do it. The US women's open last year. She had a five shot lead on the back nine and quilted away
Starting point is 00:08:00 and didn't even make into a playoff. Like, there's layers of this of like, I found myself like, I have no personal ties to her at all. I don't know her at all. I don't hear great things about her, most of the time I talk to you guys a lot, but I found myself like rooting for. I wanted the, I don't want,
Starting point is 00:08:13 like I want it to be interesting, and it was, but I don't want that to happen to anyone, almost anyone. Like maybe I'm just the complete opposite. Maybe I'm a dick, I don't know. But like, I view her as like Patrick Reed. She's like the female Patrick Reed to me. Like, unrepentant, like, rules violations in the past
Starting point is 00:08:33 that she's never once publicly addressed or done anything with, the pace of play, the refusal to do media today and last year after the US women's open, just like just the body language a lot of the time. You know, and just, you know, it seems like she comes from a very, very bizarre family background. You know, so like maybe it was just like the deck was stacked against her. She's a really, really great golfer, right?
Starting point is 00:09:04 But, but I just like, it's just not for me, right? I mean, I thought she should have been penalized for a pace of play. Like they had them on the clock. Why do you have them on the clock if you're not just gonna, like, and I guess you got fined after the round, but which is wild. The magic walked off, of course, big. Yeah, you got fined on the top point, which just happened. Like I found myself for a long time now, like rooting against her.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Like it's been two of the most compelling final rounds I've watched and men's or women's golf and recent memory in the last two years, like her collapses. It's crazy. What's really sad, I don't think I root against her. I'm sorry, I think I'm more sympathetic probably like you are I you know, Lexi hasn't done anything Personally to agree me or anything. I actually thought like last year around the soulheim cup You know she was she was in the team room. She was more involved than I maybe even anticipated Like like she was starting to act like a real human being. It seems like it, and I think that's the hope. I, my, and again, I don't have great insight here, but my, some of my perception is like,
Starting point is 00:10:18 young phenom, prodigy, and just, John, I think you nailed it with a bit of a strange family. Seems like could be a little overbearing. I just wonder like she seems to me like she's just never been super well adjusted. But on the golf course, yeah, it's almost to the point where you can take the collapse to the bank, which is an amazing, amazing place to be. Like, I'm trying to think who the equivalent would be even where it's like anytime, like I at no point during today's final round, did I think she was going to win?
Starting point is 00:10:54 Like, it just, I was expecting almost exactly what played out to be what played out. Yeah, that's quite, quite incredible. I have a comp on the men's side, which is not going to be what played out. Yeah, that's quite, quite incredible. I have a comp on the men's side, which is not gonna be what you expect. And I don't, I'm just going strictly off of records in majors, it's gonna be an incredible parallel, not based on the fashion in which it's done, because he's a friend of mine, but Jim Furek,
Starting point is 00:11:18 one major win, four runner-ups for both of them. Furek has 16 top fives in majors. Lexi has 13 tops fives in majors. She has 19 top tens in majors. He has 23 top tens in majors. He has 17 career wins. She has 11. I was going to say Fiorek won one more.
Starting point is 00:11:39 And that's early. I mean, obviously we're a lot of years into Lexi's career, but not, we've seen Jim Fiieryx full PGA tour career, right? And I think she, I would guess she wins another major. I mean, she's too talented of a ball striker. I mean, crazy for her not to win another major. I know. But at the same time, like I agree with you, but if you literally can't get the ball in
Starting point is 00:11:59 the hole, I don't know how she's going to do it. I think she's going to have to be up by like six or seven shots. Yeah, I think she can eventually ball strike a tournament to death and just the putting and doesn't end up mattering, but who knows. It might have to be an enormous, enormous lead on the back. That was my thought today. Like big, big greens. You're going to have some weird comebackers coming back, especially if you know, if anything happens off the tee and you're off balance, you know, on the second shot at all. But even then, like it was, you know, she hit a couple of three woods into the par-fives
Starting point is 00:12:34 that kind of leaked to the right. And then she's, she's short-siding herself, you know, still off of short grass, but short-siding herself with a bunker between her and the hole and then having to hit a very uncomfortable chip shot. And even like on, I think it was on 11, I think, where she, like she did that on 11. And then makes like a 15 or 20 footer coming back. She opened the back nine, making a clutch par on on 10, about a five footer. The ones that are like a big question went right in the center. And then had about 12 foot birdie putt on 11. And it went directly in the center.
Starting point is 00:13:05 And it was kind of like, oh man, is it time? And then dumped one of the bunker on 12, which was kind of inexplicable. And then it was 12, the one where she missed the, like a foot and a half. No, that was 14. She missed a total tap in on 14. Then it comes back in birdies 15,
Starting point is 00:13:19 which is the hardest hole, like 20, they said 21% of the field or something hit the green on 15, totally blind, downwind hole, super firm couldn't hold the green. She makes a putt from the rough on the back. And then yeah, is green side and two on a par five on 16
Starting point is 00:13:32 and with a two shot lead and walks off that hole tied for the lead within G-Chun. Then even like, you know, coming down the stretch, her swing, you could tell got a little bit loose like on 18, the drive on 18 and all that. And it's like the putting in the short game is affecting the long game at that point.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Yeah. I don't know how you just walk off a green just so incredibly deflated like 17, just two horrible, horrible, horrible puts for a professional golfer and and not let it creep into your ball. You got to think you got to hit it to six inches in order to actually hold it and I know that feeling. It's got a way on you at a certain point. And man, a couple of questions.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Yeah, Sean Ferg, 17 asked what are the PGA tour comp was. And I think you said DJ on Twitter. I said Dustin just because of the longevity, that long being like an elite ball striker near the top. Obviously Dustin's woes aren't limited to putting. But before he won at Oakmont and before he won the Masters, you could argue, you know, you got the Chambers thing, you got the Pebble Beach, you've got Whistling Straits, you've got, you know, a bunch of other
Starting point is 00:14:36 things now granted. He's had a lot more consistency. But, you know, similar length career, you know, Dustin started later, obviously, but kind of overlaps. And he essentially, you would expect him to have won five or six majors, right? Are you saying Lexi to live? Is that what you're saying? Well, I think that's another, yeah, Lexi obviously shares an agent with Bryson, GSC, no big deal. Well, we'll get there. That was meant as a joke.
Starting point is 00:15:08 No, honestly, I would not be shocked if like, live, went after a bunch of ladies and Lexi would be at the top of the list. Oh, yeah, front office sports had an article about that. We'll get to some of that on the back. Well, I was going to say ironically, too, I think, you know, one of the comps would have to be normed in just the way that she has famously, you know, lost a few of these majors. It's, God, it's, it's really, really interesting. I keep coming back to what really sets it apart is, you know, she said 13 top tens over
Starting point is 00:15:43 the last two seasons, like half of her events, she finishes in the top 10 just over the last two years. Obviously hasn't won anything. And I think that's what's really strange to me is usually you see somebody like this, like she should be winning three, four times a year on the LPGA. And to not win all, it's crazy speaks speaks to something. Yeah, even like this isn't just like a monkey on her back in the majors. This is bigger, which I don't I can't think of somebody on the men's side who has struggled like that just to win any of that. You can't I can't believe you guys have made the connection yet. I can't believe you guys have made the connection yet. Relentless ball striker that the putter gets wobbly on Sundays.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Well, either tone or Ricky were two of the, like Ricky, I think there are some similarities there, just in the popularity and more or less being the face of the women's game. I mean, there's nobody more popular on the grounds than Lexi Thompson. So if that makes her like a little bit like Mikkelson in that, it's almost like pre-Mikkelson being able to win a major, although Lexi already has one. It's just very weird space we find ourselves in. It's like big, I mean, big tones. He's a lot more irrelevant, right? Like he's just kind of toiling over here on the side.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Everybody's like, oh, yeah, like, but you know, he's not gonna get it done. Whereas like Lexi, she's, it's not like she hasn't won a bunch in her career too. Like, she's won 11 times. Yeah, yeah. On the surface, you would think it'd be tough to watch,
Starting point is 00:17:15 but no, the tank is full from the end. And it's tough, and it's tough to watch yet, you can't look away. It's compelling. Yeah, it's extremely compelling. Yeah, and I will say I hate to say this, but like it's awesome for women's golf. It sucks for Lexi that she has to be that for women's golf. But man, Lexi and the hunt and a women's major is about as good as it gets. What is this? Is there another sports comp for someone that is so prolific at part of the game, but then you get to one aspect of it that is true. Like you can't, you
Starting point is 00:17:49 know, it's almost like a bad free throw shooter. I was trying to think it's like, Shaq doesn't really quite qualify in that regard, but like a base, a hitter that can't hit left-handed pitching or something like that. Chuck, not like not be a blog. Yeah. Yeah. She's obviously claw gripping right now. I mean, should she go left-handed? I feel like that. Chuck not like not be a block. Yeah. She's obviously claw gripping right now. I mean, should she go left handed? I feel like that's the final frontier. She like it can't hurt. Or like if she hasn't tried it yet,
Starting point is 00:18:14 like you like try it. His it's try that try arm lock. Try try not putting your belly putter. Try anything, but like I'm, it seems like for her, she fanned out a bunch of those pots today, and she comes over it and pulls it as well. It seems like more of a fan to where like, putting left handed, it literally takes your dominant hand out of it.
Starting point is 00:18:36 It seemed like the broadcasters were doing either whether it's factual or not, were like really trying to, not make excuses for it, but like really trying to hammer home a couple times like she practices putting a lot Like she's got a putting greener house. She practices a lot and So it's not like she's not putting in the time and effort into it But it is just truly like a when you have that much scar tissue at this point I don't know how how it turns around and maybe try putting without the glove that that would be I get so frustrated when people
Starting point is 00:19:03 Both online and just I feel like they had not like the commentators in women's golf treating with kid gloves a little bit more. And it's like, yeah, you like big purse this week. You want to be at the big table? Like this is this is how it works. I'm like, I'm like, we're not going to pull punches just because you're a woman. Yeah. Like if anything, like it's, you know, that's how it is.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Yeah. Right. Yeah. Oh, I, like it's, you know, that's how it is. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's right. Randy, you had an NG Chun, a little nugget you, you encountered earlier this week that you were telling me about. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:34 I read about it. So NG Chun's first major, let me make sure I'm getting that right. The US women's open at Lancaster, Pennsylvania, country club. And she was so well treated by the fans and just was so appreciative. Immediately after that win, she started a foundation, the Inji Chun Lancaster Country Club Education Foundation. And has donated time and energy ever since that went back in 2015 to essentially putting workers and kids of workers there helping them with college costs. And so it's really cool. The fruit of that labor of that foundation is starting to pay off. There's actually somebody that I believe went to Penn State, that went through like the turf management program at Penn State,
Starting point is 00:20:31 and is now a superintendent back in Pennsylvania. It's just a really, really, I don't know, wholesome story about how Inji Chun and Lancaster, Pennsylvania and the club in particular just forged this real bond. She seems like a really, really good person. And I really enjoyed learning about her nickname as well, Dumbo, which like the big cartoon elephant, you know, which I guess her coach gave to her years ago because she was just always so interested, had her ears up, always wanted to learn.
Starting point is 00:21:08 She seems like a really, really fascinating person. So I don't want that to get lost in the result today as well. It was very weird to tag her in post this week. Be like, yeah, great shot at NG Dumbo because it kind of felt like you're, you were roasted you're in some way. But no, I've heard nothing, but great things about her. She, you know, did all her interviews and stuff in English, but you can tell us, you know, a work in progress for her, but to handle all that stuff was, she was doing ambush marketing.
Starting point is 00:21:37 As she was in English, and to like give a shout to Deloitte after in the post game, which I, they were rushing through that post game as fast as they possibly could and then trying to get to the track and feel as soon as you drop the deal. I've never seen a post-round trophy ceremony before the cards are signed. That was the fastest turn of the actual like post-round interview was done after they'd already handed to the trophy. It all happened within like five minutes of her making the final putt. You're your Aunt Molly and Mayor Pete calling in the fix. We'll get to a few other things. We want to give a shout out to our friends at Cash App,
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Starting point is 00:23:05 leaped it, whatever, but she was rock solid on the stretch. I mean, she could easily fold it up like a lawn chair. She went four over on the front nine on Sunday. And then it's got to be exhausting to hold an enormously for like 48 plus hours. Yeah. And that's a big, big golf course. It seems like tough to walk.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Like, you know, it's wet, so it's even harder to walk. It just, I don't know. Like, bring me to the course a little bit this week because I, like, on TV watching, I watched three out of the four days and I struggle with Congressional. I get looks better than it did. I'm kind of getting some fatigue on some of the rough edge
Starting point is 00:23:42 bunkers that we're seeing everywhere, but it also looks very kind of vast and impersonal and I don't know, just like I've just never gotten a good sense of congressional because it just seems like a factory kind of. I never saw it before, so I can't compare it to what it was before. I think it was, you know, it didn't make for the most exciting viewing in prior iterations. What they have done, taken a ton, a ton, a ton of trees out. Is great, you can see almost every hole
Starting point is 00:24:10 from pretty much every spot on the course. I mean, slightly exaggerated, but from the clubhouse, you can see at least a glimpse of, I think basically every hole. And, you know, the hole back nine, you can see exactly what's going on, especially for attending a tournament. If you're over on 12, you can look over
Starting point is 00:24:23 and be like, oh, well, no, the court is over there on 14. Let's dart that way. And it is a golf course that is meant to host big, big, big golf tournaments, right? And that regard, there's a lot of things that work. And some that don't really quite work, if you ask me. I'm really curious, granted they got 15 years to figure this out.
Starting point is 00:24:39 But the 2037 Ryder Cup is going there. And I think they're gonna have to flip the Nines because several of the holds, 15 and 16, the galleries could not get around. You can't get close to it. Those are some of the most important holes when it comes down to the match. So then you got a first hole, par three then.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Could be a first hole par three, which could be sweet. I know, it could be awesome. I know, it would be very sick. And I think they could make basically the sixth hole becomes 15, which would be a par five. And then 16 is a cool par three that I think kind of centers the environment a little bit better. But yeah, there's a, I think they could have done a better job with which I got word that carry Hague is actually in charge of he goes around and puts all the posts in
Starting point is 00:25:17 the ground for every single rope that goes out there. I hope they could have kind of let fans get a little closer in some spots. Not a good week for carry Hague. I, I I somewhat agree. But yeah, the golf course is it's bold, it's vast. It the first impression when you walk in is like, this is incredible. It looks awesome. The Fescue looks awesome, which is a brand new addition to it.
Starting point is 00:25:36 It's a whole new aesthetic wide fairways, big undulations. Bull and what I'm not quite sure on is the greens are very bold like very very overshaped. It is I don't know. I'm going to hopefully play there in a couple weeks and I'll maybe get a little better impression of it, but instinct to the I. Yes. Like just very dramatic deep bunkering very severe slopes in some of the greens and it was I mean they just like they set it up in round one way too long just way too long. I mean, and be, like, they set it up in round one way too long, just way too long. I mean, and a lot of the players couldn't reach,
Starting point is 00:26:09 like the fairway bunkers that are designed to be in the landing areas, like you just hit drivers as far as you can, and you're like 30 yards short of like the actual designed landing areas. And it's like there was a lot of rough right off the greens too, where there could have been shorter grass. Like that spot where Lexiey bone the chip over.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Yeah. Like, and she was in the short grass and then she bone the chip again. Like, that was six. Like, that was like, give me more of that. There's a lot of 16 is a dramatic hole with short grass in the runoffs in Jessica Corda had a little issue on that hole as well. But a couple spots where the divots.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Yeah. 17, all the balls collected in the same spot. 18 divots were kind divots. Yeah, 17, all the balls collected in the same spot. 18 divots were kind of everywhere. It does seem like the greens are concepted out for 72 alternatives. Like there's four really solid pins on each one, a good balance of like put it up on this tier one day and then kind of down in this bowl. Like we saw it on the ninth hole today. It was up front. Lexi had a perfect shot, used the backstop and it came all the way down. And I forget it was he Gen Choi or NG Chen perfect shot. Use the backstop and it came all the way down. And I forget it was he, John Choi or, or in G.
Starting point is 00:27:06 John that didn't get the right spin on it, carried it too far and had a really hard put from up top. So it is like really good tournament pins. Is it like my favorite favorite style of golf? I wouldn't say so. But it by all accounts, it seems like a great improvement. It just kind of seemed like a little things, a couple of things that were just a little confusing, I think. But Randy, what did you think? Yeah. a couple of things that were just a little confusing, I think. But, Randy, what did you think? Yeah, I echo pretty much all of what you said. I'm just thinking too, like, if you do flip the 9s, like, 8 green, you couldn't really see from the gallery.
Starting point is 00:27:36 That's going to be a problem. It's, yeah, it's really curious. There were like three or four greens where they're so pushed up and the ropes being where they were, like you really couldn't see the balls roll on the green. I thought it looked like it looked great. Like you said, it kinda, like it kinda feels to me a little bit like a hazel teen,
Starting point is 00:27:56 just like big and impersonal kind of. A really big, big ballpark where, you know, there are some little features here and there. Then I'm like, man, it like 10, right? They have this, this really cool, the part three, they have this really cool mode area, like down the hill, the left side of the green. And where I think it would kind of like be built up, it's almost funnel balls onto the green. It's like the opposite where balls will run away from the green and
Starting point is 00:28:25 collect in like a depression. So it's just like decisions like that where, you know, I don't know, I might do something a little different or wish for something a little different, but I did think it looked, it looked really good. It looks like a course that, you know, you could lift it up and put it in Philadelphia or Pittsburgh. I don't know why, it just felt like a very Pennsylvania type of golf course to me. All in all, I thought it was a great test for the ladies this week. I was quite glad that they took the championship there.
Starting point is 00:29:03 And honestly, I think I'll look forward to it returning in 2027. I was, I think all in all, I was, I was pretty in on it this week. Kind of strange club too. I've been there once and it was just like, yeah, kind of, kind of turn me up. I had to light for lunch with a couple of members, sort of learn this week. So I got on the wait list. I am on the wait list.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Could be a good 10 years. Everybody always says all the members hate each other, which maybe they're, you know, maybe they're trying to get more members in there that like each other. Randy, there was a funnel pin on 18 today. Yeah, a little bit. I can hold.
Starting point is 00:29:37 I can say, you know, Lexi had a really good approach out into 18 to give herself a look at that. Last thing I can't congratulate, I don't know what maybe just think of this. The clubhouse straight up looks like it should be in California. I, the clubhouse seems very out of place with the architecture style of it,
Starting point is 00:29:56 which is always a little bit jarring to me, but that's, you know, that's probably neither here nor there. Yeah, funnel pen, you know, what are you gonna do? Today was spicy though, man. It was hot, the course had firmed up, the breeze was up, it was a test. It was a lot going on, it was some white knuckle in going on. We haven't talked about minjeele yet.
Starting point is 00:30:17 She, I mean, shit, she, she three puts 17. Just kind of juices her first putt, really didn't get high enough. Kind of veers off, three puts that, birdie 16 and 18, and otherwise, I mean, she shot 70 with the bowie on 17. Like, I thought, I was like, man, this is, this is, she's gonna snatch this thing, this is gonna be. Scoring average was 75.3 today. So 70 was a very, very serious round of golf. I mean, that whole front page of the leaderboard was just littered with pretty enormous scores today. So 70 was a very, very serious round of golf. I mean, that whole front page of the leaderboard was just littered with pretty enormous scores today. I mean, I see 73
Starting point is 00:30:50 and she's shot 75. I did it to cool shot 72 today and catapulted up the leaderboard. Nasa tooka shot 69 today and up T5. I honestly did not know that. Oh, round of the day. That's not up on me. It's Jay Troy 76. That was some of the worst golf I've seen in like a final group other than can't wait today. I was kind of the theme of the day. Lily of who top 10, T 10 there. She's been playing some very, very nice golf lately.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Jennifer Chang as well. And then our young hitter Lauren Cogland T 16 finish her biggest payday of her career by far by far. If you've been following her her grind up through you know what is now the semester was was a semester tour now the Epson tour. If you remember the story last year she had a Monday qualifying to the last event at Pelican to get in and finish top. I forget what it was 30 something like that to get her keep her card for this year, which gets her into this event.
Starting point is 00:31:48 And now she goes finish T16, $9 million per week at the KPMG. She makes $114,000 and working towards securing her car for card for next year. It gets into more tournaments this year, locks it up for next year, gets close. Awesome to follow. I followed her a bunch this week.
Starting point is 00:32:04 It was so much fun. She's hitting the crap out of it and it's fourth week in a row. She played to like exhausted So good stuff there on the setup. I will indulge you guys for a minute if you will I think what I Thought round one was just a bad setup. It was it was not set up right for the conditions and for just a bad setup. It was it was not set up right for the conditions and for the talent of the women. I think it kind of it was like it was like playing a you know taking a you know a basketball game and putting on 11 foot hoop. Like what the skills that are supposed to be on display like don't really get an opportunity to be on display when like I said that the balls aren't even reaching the proper landing areas and there's if you're you're the bottom 50% of the field, you're hitting three woods into par fours and can't get there on some of them.
Starting point is 00:32:49 And it just looked like the wrong date to play a golf course at 6,800 yards, which NB Park said was playing closer to 7,200, which like, if you translate that to like what men's yardages, the women hit about 16% of the distance that men do. That's probably like an 8600 yard golf course. And if it's placed at 16% less. Yeah, so I mean, at 16% less. Like per shot too. It's not, it's not, you know, 16% of what the men do. No, no, sorry, 16% less.
Starting point is 00:33:17 And it was just so, so freaking long, which makes Inji Chun's round even more not understandable. It's kind of where we're freaking out so much on Thursday, but the golf course firmed up as a week when long they got dumped on rain Wednesday night. I thought it was a very good test from that point forward. I thought some of the pins were comically difficult and watching Lauren, like try to get at some of them and like really rooting for somebody. It was like looking at some of them like, man, how are you going to hit this shot?
Starting point is 00:33:42 Like this looks really, really challenging. It was a great major championship test from that point on. And I think my qualm is Friday. Friday seemed like an over correction. A little bit. I think it, if it was like a US open, I could kind of agree with that. I think it, it was a challenging test to put on display. And there was no wind either on Friday.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Like the scores are gonna correlate with wind like pretty much all of these conversations that we have. And there were more accessible pins on that day, and they moved that it was about 170 yards shorter on Friday. But it was, like round one, surprises played around that same yardage, if not less. And there were more birdy chances on round two, but there was still a lot, it wasn't like they put every pin in the middle.
Starting point is 00:34:28 It was still like, dude, try to get out this pin in the back left corner, right near the water or front right corner, right near a ridge. And it was, it was definitely a challenge. What a crazy, like, repudiation of their own setup to, like, basically shorten it by 170 yards the second day when it's drying out as well, like it's drying out more as well. So it's really 250 to 300 yards shorter. Yeah. Like just what a bad setup round one. I'm, I love it. Carry Hague. I'm just, I'm just saying. It was, I mean, when you talk about, because it wasn't, like, it was, it was nasty.
Starting point is 00:35:06 It was wet and misted, you know, all the morning and even into the afternoon. But it wasn't especially windy Thursday, which made those high scores. I mean, it was a direct result of the golf course was just a beast. Like number nine, the par five was playing 580 yards. And it was listed at 580, was playing like 780. Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is exactly would be like, hey, once last time the men have had like an 800 yard par five, right?
Starting point is 00:35:41 I don't know. Like I actually just kind of liked it right because it's like it was complete madness. And obviously some of the players were upset. I know Paige McKenzie golf channel. She was she was pretty upset with it too. Like I understand it. It wasn't like
Starting point is 00:36:00 the best showcase of that's where I'm at. Didn't somebody start crying? And the tally broker putter and as a result of that was crying, but we were spreading the word around that Carrie Hague made a girl cry. That was kind of. I'm just all I'm saying with Carrie Hague is, like he always, every slurps him.
Starting point is 00:36:18 They pretty hard. There's PGA championship setups. I can't remember a great PGA championship where it's ramped up day to day to day for the last few years. It just seems like Helter Skelter, Herky Jerky back and forth between days. You know, a lot of tour caddies are starting to talk a little bit. Like I just don't think the guy should get slurped like he does. I think he's average. I think yeah, I agree. He gets a ton of praise. And I think in general his setups
Starting point is 00:36:47 end up tend to be a bit hard for the sake of hard. And they don't necessarily promote exciting golf or entertaining golf, which I thought that's what I thought in day one is like the women. Yeah, we we talk about this every time we talk about women's golf is like it's really hard to convey how freaking talented they are and what pins they're able to get at, how aggressive they play, the precision in which they hit shot their distance control, all of these incredible skills. And you take that all the way when the holes are just too long. Like it's just not, I just don't think it, it reeked of like someone like not that familiar with the women's game and how it's played in round one.
Starting point is 00:37:21 That's how I felt. Now, I thought the way it played today was more just the result of one, the wind was up, and the course is just, I think it's just a naturally difficult course too. But the way it played today was, I thought wonderful. The other thing I guess, big takeaway from seeing congressional is like,
Starting point is 00:37:42 those greens are, there is a lot going on a lot. There aren't like easy places to put the pin on most of those greens. You can put it so you can get some funnels or some friendly ridges if you're able to take advantage of them, but it's not like hey we're just going to stick in the middle. It's a big flat green. Like I there, there aren't that many just easy spots to put flags on those greens. I thought the TV windows were obviously horrific. It's really, really hard not to lay the blame of this at the doorstep of of
Starting point is 00:38:21 NBC. In fact, is they, they charge KPMG for the hours of coverage, which basically puts the onus on KPMG to fork up more cash. And if you go to this tournament, and you won, you see they just literally doubled the purse this year. And if you go to this tournament, it's literally impossible to say that KPMG
Starting point is 00:38:36 is not investing enough in this tournament. Like the infrastructure is insane. It is their dedication and the level of detail for everything that they put into it from the leadership summit they put on and you know I really can't even describe like the level of like the the media dining the player dining the caddy dining all the things that go into this event and it just kind of grossed that this is a structure of women's golf on TV. Three sums off split T's at like mid-morning, the leaders are going off in a major.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Get the fuck out of here. And especially like if you're going to, if it's going to be that long and still today was 6600 yards or something like that, I mean if you translate that to the men's yards, that's really long still. And you put them in three sums with spicy greens, spicy wind conditions, you're set up to fail. Like the rounds are gonna be slow. Like they're even mentioning how slow the rounds are on there and it's like, hey, NBC, like the reason why it's slow
Starting point is 00:39:31 is because they gotta go in threesomes to fit your three hour TV window that you're charging for as well. So it just sucks for golf fans, if you wanna, it sucks for like the long term growth of women's golf and I hope it does get better. The fact that it's not televised before the network window is insane too.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Is this not what the cock is for? They put it on cock premium last year and that didn't go very well either. But it's tough. It's a lot of forces combined into, yeah, rushing the trophy ceremony and the end of that. Like while they're not televising it know, from what 10 to one or whatever and all ladies are out there, they're showing paid infomercials
Starting point is 00:40:11 on NBC from like 10 to 10 to noon, I think. And it's like, yo, just like put this, like I'll watch the paid infomercials, put this in a picture and picture playing through box and I'll watch it with no sound. You know, just give me the pictures. You understand how contracts work. One, obviously, it is, it costs to film it and do all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:29 And it is, they're being counters, man, which is, which is a shame. Because there's some good holes on that front nine too. Like I don't, I don't think anybody really, nobody just watching this tournament would have any real appreciation. I don't think for like the the front nine of the golf. I certainly don't like I didn't really see much of it. Yeah, Baltic are all next year. Frisco in 25, but not announced yet. We're they're going to go in 24. I couldn't get that. We couldn't.
Starting point is 00:40:56 We asked around. Nobody could give us any inside info. I'm just going to gas Olympia. I think that would be. It's been seven years since they were at Olympia. And I think Chicago would make sense. They were at Kemper the year after that in 18. But I, what if they're trying to throw a Hail Mary, like a really could be shocking, shocking top 50 course that I'm surprised they don't have it figured out two years in advance. But we'll see. But for us, we renovated Baltic for all next year. I think we'll be another one that can maybe come back from years of ridicule like congressional. I do like this version of Congo better than the one we've seen in prior years.
Starting point is 00:41:31 So yeah, I think Just kind of wrapping that conversation a little bit. We're probably overdue to effort Commissioner Molly Marcusa-Mond on the mod. I think what I would be most curious to hear her talk about, we've seen these great purse increases at the majors. And like what's next? Obviously, I think building out some streaming options to watch around the TV windows are of critical importance.
Starting point is 00:42:05 And I just wonder how much she thinks about, do we take some of this purse and try to invest in stuff like that, or is it better served? Just let's make the purse as big as possible, and that's the way we can directly benefit the players. Because it seems like I could hear arguments for both things, right? For the players, it's like I could I could hear arguments for both things right for the players It's like yeah, let's let's you know Let's have you playing for as much money and earning as much money as possible. That's good for the players the caddies the the support teams
Starting point is 00:42:36 but for for the whole women's golf and Trying to bring new fans and and really telling stories and showcasing more and more players. We can watch the men's majors for 12 hours a day and you can go into however many specific groups and pairings and watch exactly who you wanna watch. And it's just not possible in the women's game right now. And I think something I get frustrated with is, people will say, well, you guys don't cover the women's game right now. And I, and you know, I think something I get frustrated with is, you know, people will say, well, you guys don't cover the women's game like you do the men's game.
Starting point is 00:43:10 And that's true. And I think we're trying to take steps, but it makes it really hard when you get three hours of coverage. And you don't have stats on top of it. That's extremely big pillar is taking these KPMG insights and, you know, getting them to the level that they are the strokes game that the very specific accurate stats that we have in the men's game because it just makes, it just gives context and it allows you to tell stories and it allows you to compare people without just kind of talking in generalities and and just being non-specific about things. So, you know, it's the greater streaming options, allowing people to watch more players and see more of golf courses plus the stats packages. And I think those are the two big investments that have to come from somewhere in the for the women's game and just curious how you know the commissioner thinks about
Starting point is 00:44:10 purse increases relative to some needed investments elsewhere would be fascinated. Because it's not another or right it's it's you know the purse increases like the more this one sticks out like a sore thumb the more it makes the rest of the schedule look kind of you know, blind and the rest of the schedule's gotten better and better, but it still has a ways, you know, like, I mean, mega catching up to do, you know, probably more even next year because they're gonna bump the person in next year, right? And it's like, you know, but at some point you have people in the boat, you have people wanting to watch women's golf and when they when they only get the two or three hour window, like it's a slap in the face
Starting point is 00:44:44 to it. Right. Big time. So Randy, maybe like, I just realized LPGA, maybe it's the ultimate eye test. Is there a chance to add something? Honestly, that's what it is. That's why Randy's gotten so into it
Starting point is 00:44:57 in the last few years. You just, yeah, you just, yeah, we're just gonna watch it. And you know, I'll just go with my eyes tell me. Just, you know, shoot from the hip. I can't prove you wrong. What I don't. Exactly. Exactly.
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Starting point is 00:46:26 onto travelers guys, I got to admit I didn't turn any attention to travelers until after four o'clock today. I will say for once though LPGA and PGA tour finishing at different times was a nice thing. It was not good. I did three sums at a women's major to fit that in, but it was it was good to be able to watch both finishes comfortably today. I wish I didn't see the end of the travelers though. God, my heart hurts. My heart hurts. I just don't know why you're trying,
Starting point is 00:46:53 just chip it out of the bunker, man. It's the one place you can't be on that whole entire hole. And you just chip it out. I didn't like Fowdo calling into question the driver. Like everyone hits driver on 18 I you look little even if you go in that bunker like you are gonna be able to get on the green I was talking to some people too. I guess he I guess he hits driver Everywhere you don't have a three way anyway. Yeah, like he's like that's his strategy, right?
Starting point is 00:47:18 Lives with a dodge. Yeah, there's I did not understand that call He didn't say it until after he put one up against the lip. Literally the only place he could hit that drive and been in that much trouble was up against that lip. It just, it sucks. He played so freaking good. He drove it in a divot on 17. Flites, flights a shot through the wind on,
Starting point is 00:47:38 out of a divot on 17, rolls in the birdie to take the lead, steps up, hits in that lip. They captured the conversation with it. Sound like his caddy was saying, you know, if we can't get it on the green, then we should just chip it out, right? And then, you know, try to get up and down for par. And it sounded like in his post-round comments, he said, I don't know what it looked like on TV, but they look like there was room.
Starting point is 00:47:59 There was room. I just need to not blade it. And it was a very much if it hits the hill, it hits the hill situation. And it, I think he was saying, he makes a comment in there too. If I do hit into this hill, it's gonna tumble forward into the fairway. It was a top spin, or?
Starting point is 00:48:12 Anyways, just don't blade it under the lip. And he blade it under the lip. And then lips out the putt. Like it's just... It was a good putt. It was. It was. I mean, it was a...
Starting point is 00:48:21 It was a really good shot in there, too. It was a bad swing off 18 and a bad decision. I still think to do that But man that dude has cut in some shitty luck when it comes down to like a bad swing But it was bad luck that it ended up right that far under the lip And then the lip out as well and the divot on 17 like it's just like dude this dude He's ripping our hearts out man. We're for you. Ah it'll it'll come. Float like I mean the floodgates all open. He's so good.
Starting point is 00:48:48 He really is. It's funny because I talked to him at Colonial and he just like he always loves to like downplay his ball striking. He's like I'm not really if I could very good ball striker but like yeah like for me like I'm hitting a really good right now. I was like dude I'm pretty sure you're a really good ball striker. I'm not sure where you're getting this from, but, um, he seems just like a, like a aggressively humble guy. Yeah. Like, you just, just humble. It doesn't want to, to his own horn. Doesn't want to like, he's just, you know, he's just better than what he lets
Starting point is 00:49:18 on. And if you haven't gone back and listen, we had him on the pod. I think back in April and you gave, hey, I was right before the Zich, actually. He's a great interview. He's as likable as he was after waste management. I hope there, I didn't see, I didn't see the post game. I'm hoping there was no tears this time around. I wouldn't be able to handle another round of emotion like that. Do you feel anything today watching that, Randy? Just tough, tough, tough with that, with that play on 18. I thought he was going to do it. God, Bernie in 17. I don't know what other analysis there is, right?
Starting point is 00:49:51 Just man, that really sucked on 18. I don't know. Do you guys, I feel like it probably loosened Zander up then to them birdie 18. You know, obviously stuffed it, stuffed it close and made the putt. That's not an easy hole 18, like, or it shouldn't be. Like, it's 450 yards up a fucking hill with a massive bunker down the left
Starting point is 00:50:14 and a big hill up the right. And it's kind of this narrow shoot that you're looking through. Like, I've stood back on that tee before, and I'm like, dude, like, this is a hard hole, and it's like a driver, like lob wedge for Xander today. It's crazy to me.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Maybe the ball goes too far. I don't know, but need more evidence on that. We'll look into that. I mean Xander shooting 63, 63 to start the event. Like, it's pretty good. I think he hit 17 of 18 fairways on Thursday. Greens. Greens.
Starting point is 00:50:47 That would 17 of 18 fairways would be, that would be remarkable. It all 18 greens on Thursday. And then at 15, 14 at 16. So you missed, you missed nine greens. He hits 63 of 72 greens this week. That's crazy. Like, I like this tournament.
Starting point is 00:51:04 I like this golf course. I've always wondered how they've kind of got no way with paying the players together. I guess it's all sorts of media kind of media rights and all over the country. They're like, they do dinners for clients and pay some of these players up front. But then they all magically appear at the tournament or whatever.
Starting point is 00:51:24 No, but this tournament does a great job. It punches about its weight, right? Always a good field. And they also did an exceptional job with sponsor exemptions. Correct. They don't abuse the sponsor exemptions. They get great young guys, I mean shit.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Like when can't lay shot, what's 60 there as an amateur? Thor Bjornson this week's a perfect example. Unbelievable, man. You already shot on the weekend. 66, 66. He did. I also, you know what, Mackenzie, he's current world golf ranking one. 66. 66. Wow, I did not see that coming. Synergy set. I'm struggling with how hype to get. I mean, it's ridiculous. Thor Bjornsson's an enormous talent. It is extremely rare to see an amateur,
Starting point is 00:52:05 you know, finishing the top five of a PJ Tora and Ike Porter said, and it's like the first amateur to finish in the top five of a tour event at any event with at least a 400 strength of field, meaning like a real, actually really solid field. Yet he looks so polished and so ready for tour golf. And, you know, speed was winning events at 19 and Thorpe Johnson's 20. So I always tried not to get too, too hyped on, you know, not necessarily an older amateur, but something like that. But man, that was a, that was a fun story to follow. He was right.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Yeah. I mean, he was 17 under going into 12. Bogey's 12 and 13. Pars out from there. Shoot 66 and really like, you know, if he parsed both those holes he's T2 and he said it kind of freed him up today because he wasn't thinking about money. He's like it doesn't really matter what I finished. It's just good experience and you know it seemed like he like the moment wasn't too big for him it was just a matter of him him you know he just didn't execute in a couple shots he said
Starting point is 00:53:02 so it's always crazy to me like when he when you hear he was playing what parziale and the yeah if he was at the the mass am I'm not saying and I think parziale shot 67 in the first round and it was six down at lunch hey that's why he'd be like seven six six or something like that. I think my favorite thing with the Torbie Ornson was just C&M publicly credit rose Zang as his That's so awesome. If any listeners have not seen our Stanford women's golf video, you can get a bit more backstory on that. But that was that was the highlight for me for him and for the week, I think.
Starting point is 00:53:44 I was scrambling to figure out, for him and for the week, I think. I was scrambling to figure out if this gets him into the deer, but he's going over to play the polymer cup this week anyways. So I don't know if maybe a top five for an AM2 also gets you into the next live event. I don't know whether or not it does officially or not. Sure. And he could play the Boston one. Be kind of a hometown of the form, you know?
Starting point is 00:54:01 JT Post and finished T2 as well. Be remiss if I didn't shout out the post, man. He's gonna be a 15 year, 20 year PGA tour player with like, I do that, like, wasn't anything coming out of college. It's just, I just, like, I have so much respect for his, A, like, he's like a microwave dude. He just heats up, but B, he's just so,
Starting point is 00:54:25 like, just immensely, like, immense self- like a microwave dude. He just heats up, but B, he's just so, like just immensely, like a men's self belief without ever being cocky. So. I think the big story of the day, I think we can all agree. One of the most important rounds played in the history of the PGA tour. Apparently today it was Patrick Cantlay.
Starting point is 00:54:38 They would not leave him alone no matter how many doubles and bokehs he made today. They, I think they showed every one of his shot. Joel Damon even tweeted at a certain point, like, why are we still on K-A-Lay? He's lighting himself on fire. He shot 76 today, I think. It truly looked like space jam.
Starting point is 00:54:56 When the monster steals, you know, steals Charles Barkley and Ewing and all those guys, all their talent. Like, he couldn't do anything. It was crazy. He shot 63 on Saturday and then followed it with a 76. He had nine bogies in a double today. I don't know what the big,
Starting point is 00:55:15 I don't know what the big takeaway is here. I mean, we've killed him for his, you know, his results in big events, but he has delivered big results in medium to small events. So I don't know. It was a trendy pick this week. Yeah. So I don't know what the big I'm not necessarily ready to, there were a couple of people that
Starting point is 00:55:31 were chiming in like, is he, you know, is he not a killer? He's not shredstone blah, blah, blah. I'm like, yeah, I mean, like we can talk about that. Yeah, we can talk about that for the, the big events and why that doesn't translate. But he's, he literally won the next cup last year. So I don't want to get too out of the picture. I mean, it could, it could be up for debate whether the FedEx Cup is a big event. Well, that's on, I'm saying it's not.
Starting point is 00:55:52 I'm saying it's like the medium sized event that, that he seems to really thrive in. The one that he hit on eight, where it's a 180 yard par three. Oh my god, he dead chunked it. And he barely got it to the water. Yeah. You know, I mean, he must have hit it. What? A hundred and it was 57 yards short of the holy hit. 120 yards. It was so bad. But he also made five birdies today. So very, very weird round of golf. But Zander, any big take. I mean, Zander played obviously incredible golf. One of the golf tournament
Starting point is 00:56:24 kind of feels a little overdue for solo wins since 2019, but I don't really know what big takeaway is on that one. I just kind of shrug, man. I mean, I, like, the ender's a tough one for me because I respect him like his game. He seems like he does all the right stuff. His dad's had kind of an eccentric lunatic. Like I respect the hell out of that too. But like I just don't feel anything. Yeah. I'm right there with your TC. Six wins now, you know. A lot of good finishes and majors. I think Xander is just firmly in the either win a major or don't, but until you do win a major, I, doesn't, doesn't really do a whole lot for me. Like I, I'm not sure what else there is to even talk about with them, right? I would, I would tend to agree. And with that, I think we
Starting point is 00:57:14 can move on to Pearson Coody wins, uh, wins on the, we got out of leaderboard. Oh, yeah, sorry, we do have a couple more things. Not down the leaderboard, but we do have a couple of things. I mean, Chess and Chatz, 64 today finishes solo fifth. Solo fifth and he moves up to 160th in the FedEx cup from 206. That's bleak. Good weekend for Keith Mitchell. Kizner kind of faded today. Stalling 63 today. Really, really good. Because very good round. Stalling's continuing to run his high volatility playbook. Chez T8 headed into the deer.
Starting point is 00:57:53 How about it? I know Neal's excited there. One guy that I think we should, he's like, candidate number two or three for the death panel. You get him out. Dirt my dirt. William a dirt dirt. dirt dirt my dirt. Like this guy's made too much money playing golf. He finished T8 this week. I don't even know
Starting point is 00:58:13 how he's in the field. I moved up from 204 to 171 in the FedEx cup. Just a just a just a grouchy old codger. Nick Hardy continues the the heat check T8 a second round 64. The dudes playing some golf. He's got to be worn out at this point. All right. Speaking of being worn out, Roy McAroy zooms out for the 62 in round one and finishes T19. I feel nothing towards this. He just got to be exhausted. I mean, he was cruising on God to 1300. They made a quad on the 12th hole on Friday and followed up with a double on 15. And then he had got it to 1300 and finishes it at 9 under. But yeah, on top of all the stress of everything else
Starting point is 00:58:57 going on the golf road and playing a whole hell of a lot of golf. This was four weeks in a row for him. I think he's got to be ready for a little rest. So he's got so what he takes this week off, he takes this week off and then he put does he play the Scottish or I don't remember if he's going to play the Scottish or not. I would think he would. Yeah, I could be wrong there. At the Renaissance. How about Cochrack walking off the course on Friday, which I guess it makes a lot more sense. It's told it wasn't a hostile. He went long on nine.
Starting point is 00:59:28 They got up to the green, realized it was OB. He was going to miss the cut anyways. Didn't want to go back and hold up the groups behind him and just didn't record a score on nine. But if he would have scooped, and this is dream for a second. It looked sick on the shot tracker. It looked like he went 50 yards over the green and just like, just a total walkoff. Scooped it.
Starting point is 00:59:46 It's like driver off the deck from 100 guards out. Which if he does go to live and play Portland this week, which has not been announced, and I don't know if he is, that would, it's gonna go down in history that he scooped it and walked off to live. All right, I just want that to be very clear. I know he didn't,
Starting point is 00:59:59 but that's how we're gonna record this in the history books. I'm cool with that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, a good way to go. Anything else from, uh, from the travelers? Not really. Um, you know, continuing to go on the leaderboard here. Harry was on the, on the pod. Harry and Joel, Joel shot 7375 with the weekend. They both made the cut. A lot of people asking if I'm going to go caddy for Joel in the sky to show up and before we finish that podcast on Sunday night
Starting point is 01:00:25 He had the spot had been filled so it was it was not much of a real offer the Gina take it or did no It's cousin or something is going and I don't think I was going to be able to go anyways But I appreciate all the interest in that and the fake offer from Joel So but Joel Joel making the cut you, coming off the US open props there. Harry shot 64 in the second round. Makes the cut should 73, 77 on the weekend. You know, we're still, we're still grinding. We're still searching for it. I also Morgan Hoffman made the cut this week.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Good stuff there. And then just unfortunate, unfortunate run-alock for Davis Riley on the weekend. Couldn't get it done for you guys. I know you guys are all picking him in our draft Kings. And then he seems like the magic bullet that you guys are trying to use against me. After you try to assassinate me this week. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:15 All comments on this will go through my lawyer. That's Morgan Hoffman's first made cuts since September of 2019 at the military tribute at the Green Browder. That's cool, Range. you look that up yourself? I just did. That's cool. That's cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:31 On the Corn Fairy Tour, big story that was out this week was that Pearson Coody was, which was the top finisher in the PGA Tour U, which got him status on the Corn Fairy Tour, was offered millions of dollars from Liv, turns it down, and then goes and wins the Liv and work in Maine open our championship or whatever it is on the corn fairy tour this past week. Once by five, went and run away with it. Yeah, it really good. Couple of cool stories up there in Maine. main Cole Anderson, local main, or actually also free shoes
Starting point is 01:02:06 university student athlete. He was like co leading or second place and you know, really, really good. Just a good week for amateur golf. Yeah, definitely some big finishes. BMW international, Halhtong Lee, with back from the wilderness, wins in dramatic fashion at the BMW International. T.C. hated all of it. He was livid about how to like that. T.C. I struggle with Halhtong because I you know some of the some of our international team lost at Roel Melbourne. I would put squarely at his feet. He showed up like he didn't even bring a fucking caddy.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Of course. Randy. Listen. Listen. Did his trainer caddy inform him? I know, I know. We're much trying. It's part of growing up. And then, you know, I guess he's played poorly and almost quit the game, down and out of the eye. He's worked really hard to get back. Like, honestly, man, everybody's working hard out there.
Starting point is 01:02:57 You know, Thomas Peters is working hard. He was in the wilderness in 2021. And fell, I believe, all the way to 467 in the world and has played some really good golf since then. And you know, I had other top 10s in this past year and then goes out and wins made an enormous 40 foot putt. It was the craziest 70 second hole. Yeah. Like he he absolutely boned a chip. And then it's like 40 feet and makes this plot. That was in the playoff. Um, and then, uh, yeah, it was, it was a hysteria broke, broke out
Starting point is 01:03:32 after he's crying everywhere, dropping F bombs, uh, in the interview. It was, that was cool to see. I thought that was. I was going to say, which if I may, you know, with everything going on recently and, and the world of men's professional golf, it's really awesome to see a guy win an event like that and to see how much it truly means to him. I thought it was cool. But literally, Randy, what about China? Well, listen, we'll get into that, you know, tune into the trap, throughout TC and I break down the whole China situation. Yeah, moving on from the professional golf scene,
Starting point is 01:04:12 I know we had a podcast earlier this week, if you haven't listened to it yet with Max Holman, kind of reacting to announcements that were made on the PGA tour, kind of reaction to the live developments from this past week. Randy, I'm just curious as to what you think of, you know, you weren't on the podcast,
Starting point is 01:04:27 or was we, but curious what you think of kind of the new PGA tour schedule, the kind of more elevated events. I think a little differently about it after having some time to digest it, but I'm wondering if you had any reaction. I didn't think, I didn't think we could elevate past the already elevated.
Starting point is 01:04:41 So that's interesting. I can't pull over. I can't pull over. I can't pull. I can't we can't elevate this elevated event any further. Doesn't do a whole lot for me. I will say it's I think it's good. I think it's a step in the right direction in terms of shrinking the guys eligible to win the FedEx Cup and to make the pool of guys having to play for their card larger. I think that's a good step in the right direction.
Starting point is 01:05:13 But beyond that, I'm not sure how it materially changes much for me as a fan, I guess. I don't know. I would be curious, Sali, what time to reflect on your side, what, what you think? I think what kind of drove initial apathy towards it was the initial reporter, whatever that said there was going to be eight big money cash grab events in the fall, which ended up not being the case, right? Which was extremely untrue. It was not true. And it turns out that there's going to be potentially three cash grab events in the
Starting point is 01:05:45 fall. And I almost throw those as like, man, that's the play to keep the top guys happy. I think they're going to be pretty optional from a viewing perspective. I don't think they're really meant for fans. And that's okay. Cause there could be a total peatry dish. And like, it's kind of like, you know, these guys are going to win. Like we're going to give them a bunch of money for showing up to these. Yeah. Like some weird shit. Yeah, like we can do some weird shit. We can do some weird formats. I'm not holding out hope for that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:09 But that's almost an aside to like, it's kind of almost distracting even the initial reaction and we contributed to that kind of, you know, with at least I did with things I said on Twitter. But now realizing the PGA tour season goes from January to August. And we have, you know, of course, we have the four majors and then we have the century, the Genesis, the Arnold Palmer, the players, the match play, the FedEx, St. Jude and the BMW all now, you know, centuries, 15, but everything else is $20 million. And then the players goes to $25 million. So it seems like there's going to be the events that, you know, everybody shows up for the players because it's the biggest purse, right? And now you have a bunch more
Starting point is 01:06:48 tournaments that are 20 million dollars, like everyone's going to show up for him. That's about all we can ask for as fans from what we're going to get out of PGA tour entertainment. And I think that's a strong development and it keeps it concise. It makes there's a whole new thing for the sickos to follow who keeps the status or who, you know, kind of earns their status in the fall. You know, and the, you know, the, the, the haves will go and collect big cash in the fall. Have nots, we'll have to grind for cards. I think that's a good division of it for that type of that part of the season. And it makes the FedEx Cup season. Part of the reason why it's a big joke is like it's way too long, like extremely too long and it's way too many events and if there's less events the events
Starting point is 01:07:26 You do have mean more exactly and I think that that's what they've done and I think that's better for golf fans Why I don't understand why they don't just get a get away from fall golf just just have a big off season I'll tell you I'll tell you why it's one they're mandated to put on golf tournaments. And like pro golfers will go play other places and they don't want that in the fall. Like especially in this time, like what live would if they did, if they got rid of fall golf, live would literally post up in the fall and be like, come play this now. And then guys would definitely sue the tour to try to play both.
Starting point is 01:08:00 And that's a recipe for disaster for the tour, which is interesting because aside from like all the tour officials, a lot of their earnings deriving from like the number of starts. So I understand where the incentives lie. Like why is I could live in that world where like I pay attention to PJ golf January to August. And then the live stuff is like,
Starting point is 01:08:25 I don't know, it wouldn't really be my cup of tea. But, you know, if you want to like tune into a $20 million 54 hole no-cut shotgun, like, there it is for you. But really, that's kind of what they're, do, I mean, you don't have to watch the fall events. Like, I think to Randy's point, like a potential compromise with Liv would be like, hey, let the Liv thing happen in the fall.
Starting point is 01:08:46 And then the PGA tour season happens from January to August, right? Is that kind of what you're saying? Yeah. I, I, because then the, you know, like you said, just the, the, there is something to like the less events the PGA tour puts on, then the more that they do, the that that are going I just makes it more Special it makes it more important, you know, I think the current calendar where it's damn near you know 11 and a half months or Seemingly that 46 events. It's just all flattens and bleeds together. And it's like, every other major sport has a very defined off season.
Starting point is 01:09:28 And majorly baseball players can go play in the Dominican and they can go play in the Venezuelan league. I don't. I understand why the PGA Tour doesn't want to do it. In my mind, it wouldn't be the worst thing. I think the... Just to that, I think that's basically what this is though. It's a bunch of optional non points based golf for the big stars in the fall.
Starting point is 01:09:50 And a bunch of guys grinding for their cards. And, and that is very ignorable if you're ready to take a break from golf. So, all right. I'll let you guys let me ignore it. We'll talk about. I think so. So a couple of things I've got. One of them is I hope there's,
Starting point is 01:10:06 I hope this is like step one in a, because it feels a little bit like they're making it up as they go, which they probably are because this is all happening in real time. They haven't done a whole lot the last two or three years trying, like they got through COVID and all that, but like this is, they're starting from behind here, right? So they're catching up, this is kind of gets them back to square one. Now I want to see what they do.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Do you forge a stronger alliance with the European tour? And then, because I think there's a real opportunity to have, and I know Rory's chomping at the bit for this, to get more of a global tour. Like you, you know, I would say integrate the Australian open, integrate the three or four events in the British Isles, like exactly like what they've done with the Scottish Open this year. Do that with the Irish Open as well.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Do it with take some of the pressure off of the Irish Open to generate a bunch of revenue and go to dog shit courses like Mount Juliet, like, you know, go to real links courses and free them up and focus on the TV product on that, you know. Yeah, that's where I would love that as a fan. I just think their priorities have gotten even further from the entertainment aspect from the fans perspective because it's just a desperate, it's a desperate, like the ratings don't really matter to them as it would appear now anyways.
Starting point is 01:11:25 So every move they make is gonna be to try to desperately keep as many players as possible. No, but I think thinking structurally about the tour and about TV deals and about global contracts as well, because especially if you're gonna stand up with a three events thing, because basically this says, all right, the WGC's have been an abject failure,
Starting point is 01:11:44 like failure, the capital F. And, you know, like Tim Finchum, get the fuck out of here, man. I think the players would probably not call them failures because they've gotten rich off of them. Yeah, but they're just like so poorly concepted. Oh yeah. Like, they didn't serve their purpose
Starting point is 01:12:00 other than just distributing one in the players. But I think, you know, standing up with three tournament, you know, international deal, who knows if that's, you know, if the Zozo and the CJ Cup are part of that as well. But you would think that, like, if they could build a little bit more critical mass and do some stuff around, you know, even if it's in the Middle East, right? Do one and, you know, kind of integrate the race to Dubai into this and you know the two or three British Isles events and you know one in Australia and that's the thing you've got like an eight to ten you know you got eight to ten international events a year then and then that feels like more
Starting point is 01:12:39 feels more coherent more cogent it feels like a world golf. You feel it's not the PGA tour of the United States. It's like it's the world, the world golf tour, right? Something else too is I feel like if you're a, let's say you're a title sponsor of an event that's not elevated. And you see them, problem, netting up all these, because they haven't gone to these sponsors yet and said, like, this stuff's coming out of the reserve fund. I would be saying, Hey, like, why are, like, we're, we're, we're fronting the entire purse here. Why are you going to these other sponsors and netting up their
Starting point is 01:13:14 person making their, their tournament more and more valuable? Now, granted, I know they pay, you know, an additional money as it is to get the elevated event in the first place, but it just feels like, a little bit like they're netting up specific ones and playing favorites. It seems like it's very early in the process for them to have announced this, right? And I think they are losing the PR battle very, very, very badly. Trying to get some, some easy Ws. I think so. I think they end up, I would say, for a very not well versed or a group of people, they look like they are, it makes it look like Phil's right.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Basically is what I heard a lot of this week on Twitter, which was probably bots. I would hope it's bots and I do mean offense to that. If you think, like the worst is when it's not a bot. Yeah, if you said that, you're not a bot. I do mean offense with that if like the worst is when if you're not a bot. Yeah, if you said that you're not a bot I do mean offense with that because it's a gross misunderstanding of how The PJ tour works in general It it implies that Phil when he said that there was $800 million sitting around
Starting point is 01:14:16 It implies that that is remotely accurate when it's not they are very transparent about how much money is in the reserve fun And why it exists and why we just saw it come to use during the pandemic and exactly why that is the case and why basically every company around the world operates that way. Our company included, we have a reserve fund, if you will. You can argue that there is a reserve fund. You guys think we do. It's big. It's too big. You can argue on the size of the reserve fund. You can, but it like they would have been, it's an ultra conservative organization as well. They would have lost 70 to 80% of it in the pandemic if they like would not, we're not able to stand up golf tournaments. And it's just a complicated organization. And they've
Starting point is 01:14:57 been, there's so they're basically out in front saying we're upping this amount. Some of it's going to come from sales. Like we're going to, we're going to have to sell this in the future. Some of the fans get fucked. Some, yeah, some of it's going to come from sales, like we're going to have to sell this in the future. Which the fans get fucked. Yeah, some of it's going to come from existing sponsors, which we haven't talked to yet, and some of it's coming from this reserve fund, which I think the amount coming from it is even less than they're tapping into already this year. And it's all coming from this monster TV deal that was just signed.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Exactly. And there's a monster TV deal that is going up annually in price or in annual income. It's going to continue going up for the next eight years. So, persons are going to keep going up and this is not the end of it. It looks now like a gross reaction to everything. And maybe they are too late in doing it or communicating or giving off the impression this would be the case. I still think the amount of money pales in comparison to what is being thrown out there.
Starting point is 01:15:45 And I don't think it necessarily changes anyone's mind. I mean, I think a banser is getting more money straight up than the total increases that they just announced, which is kind of wild. It's not as funny their total increases were 54 million. 53.8. Just yeah, I would have chosen something different than that. But it seems like for a while, like it's really weird for me to be on the
Starting point is 01:16:07 tour side. On a lot of the stuff, like, you know, I've been called a dick rider about this week. And like, that's weird, right? Because I, I've shit on the tour. I've made a living off of it. It's our final last three, four or five years. But I, it behooves, like me as a golf fan. And in my opinion, it behooves me for the PGA tour to like be strong. Yeah. I like watching the Genesis. I like watching Pebble Beach. I like, you know, I like the PGA tour schedule. Do I think there's too many players with cards? Absolutely. Do I think they've done an exceptionally poor job, both internal and external communications? Absolutely. Like, do I think that there's guys out there,
Starting point is 01:16:44 Peter Monotti, things of that nature that make way too much money? Absolutely. Do I think Rory and Rom and those guys are underpaid? Yes. Like it's, all those things are true. Like the tour is far from perfect, but I'd much, much rather the tour be like the tour, which is, you know, owned by the players, regardless of whether they act like it or believe that or not, then some, you know, foreign government, you know players regardless of whether they act like it or believe that or not, then some foreign government, regardless of whether it's the Saudis or not. I would rather they're in, it's based here in the States.
Starting point is 01:17:13 All those things to me are positives for the PGA tour. Let's keep working on this. But I do think Jay, saying in his presser, he's not going to, he still hasn't talked to the PGL guys. We still hasn't, there's some structural deficiencies with the PGL tour is set up. And the fact that he hasn't even opened the door. And then in the next sentence, basically, as the audacity to say, like, oh, yeah, we're listening, we're creative. We're willing to explore all options. No, you're not, because you won't even pick up the
Starting point is 01:17:42 fucking phone. Yeah. I think one I think, one of the biggest mistakes they made throughout this whole. And they've carried themselves, I think, overall with, you know, they did too much of a victory lap in February. They were releasing statements on behalf of Dustin Johnson announcing his fly the banner, baby. You know, commitment to the PGA tour
Starting point is 01:18:00 that ended up looking very silly. What's the talon guys that have said they're not doing it that are gone? Because it's Bryson, it's DJ, Capca Paparez, I think, it was pretty staunchly against it. It's why, like, what especially sucks about all that is it's why Morakawa has to get super peeved about, you know, has to come out and declare yet again
Starting point is 01:18:22 because we've seen so many of his peers straight up lie or change their minds or be deceiving and dishonest. So now like we have to hear it from everyone's, like if you don't come out and say it, I'm suspicious at this point. I really do. That's like Fleetwood's being floated in rumors and it's like, I guess, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:40 it was in the London times. Yeah, Korygan wrote it and I guess she was out, you know, Tommy's wife Claire was out at and slash his agent was out at, uh, Centurion. Centurion. And, you know, from everything I've heard, I don't think, like, it would probably make sense for Tommy to go with, but on the flip side, you know, he's, he's a cutmaker. And if you don't have a cut, that's not a good thing.
Starting point is 01:19:02 But, but no, I like, I, you know, Tommy, like, I, personally, I can't see him going at least right not right now. But there's a whole other wave of guys, like, you know, I don't think Coke racks announced, but like, I, I, I'd be shocked if like, a foreigner, like, a foreigner doesn't go at the end of this, like, there's, there's more guys that are going to like, like, basically try to get both the FedEx cup money and then go play the last four or five live events at the end of the year. Uh, Wolf is teeing it up this week, like he just announced.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Like, I don't think that's as huge of a loss as it would have looked like two years ago, because I don't think like Matt Wolf wants to be playing golf in five or 10 years. But yeah, I don't know. It's just a worn out man. Hey, you, Hanyoh, I assume I tell you say it. Uh, hey, you, Hanyoh, Shakara, you, yeah, you, Hanyoh, Shakara. I'm more now. A.U.H.H.I. I assume I'd say you say it. A.U.H.H.I.O. Shakara. A.U.H.H.I.O.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Swares is a former red third base. That's how he pronounced it. We'll talk about the reds and just say it. The Oklahoma State Amitor, who is just an ounce, he will be signing with Liv. She has to. Yeah. Which, you know, he's, I guess, he'll fit right in too, because it sounds like one of his teammates
Starting point is 01:20:05 at Oklahoma State was going to transfer if he was still on the team. I've heard from guys that he took official visits to their school and they hosted him and like, he got into fist fight at, like, on an official visit with guys on the team, just the fucking mad man. He's a ball striker.
Starting point is 01:20:23 I watched him, he was in the Jacksonville tournament, and he had like every green, I think, in the tournament mad man. He's a ball striker. I watched him, he was in the Jacksonville tournament. He hit like every green I think in the tournament over 55. At least over 36 holes he had hit every green. I don't know if it was Korgan that wrote that about Fleetwood. It was in UK golf guys that it was in the Times, which I assumed to be the London Times. And Korgan writes for the telegraph, but so I don't know how credible the report was
Starting point is 01:20:42 that UK golf guy had tweeted out. I just saw Korgan and Claireical back in four to four dimensions. It had said also that Henry extension, which I've heard just keep an eye on the stenson situation that you know he's you know signed up to be the writer cup captain, but I think it was in that article. It says also that he said that and signed on to that when I look like the Saudi thing wasn't going to happen. And now that it is, I believe he's represented by the same group as
Starting point is 01:21:05 Polter and Horsefeld and all those guys. So that's another one very, very interesting. That would be wild. That would be insane. It really would. Which it kind of feels like a minor week this week. We only had Keppka answer and Wolf announced this week. It just sounds like Ortiz is going to Portland as well.
Starting point is 01:21:23 Is he? I don't think he's announced yet, but I think they're going to dribble that one out tomorrow. Another knock on my, on my international side, Randy, which I don't know. Are the international guys going to get, I mean, their qualification for the international president's cup team is through OWGR. So I wonder if, if you go to live, are you off the international presence cup team, but it's still a, a PJ tour sanctioned event, right? I just wonder if that maybe is a little bit different. That would be pretty big double standard if they let those guys play in a, you know, non revenue,
Starting point is 01:22:02 or non, non payout, presidents cup, and then suspended everybody else. Like that would, that would be kind of be tough. Just looking at the international team standings, we have Cam Smith, Hadecki. I've heard a lot of rumors about Hadecki, but I don't know anything about that. Sungjae, who seems solid for the PGA tour, walking Neiman apart of a ton of rumors. Which Sungjae shocks me, because you would think like with Steve Lloyd
Starting point is 01:22:19 and the Phil stuff, and they'd want to get a big time Korean. Nobody loves PGA tour, called for them than Sungjae. That's true. The guy plays every week. There's just not enough little events for Neeman. I heard a million things both directions. I don't know what's going to happen there.
Starting point is 01:22:33 A dancer, gone. Cory Conner's the safe. Mido have heard a much a million things, but I would have thought that would have been announced by now if it was true. Adam Scott, I still don't know where he stands on all this. He's said he's been interested in the past. And then you get into like K H Lee, Mackenzie Hughes, Sebastian Munoz, Adam Hadwin, Eric Van Roy and Lee Schlahery.
Starting point is 01:22:52 Like, it's looking tough for your international team. I'm sorry to say. We've had our backs up against the wall before. U.S. has lost a lot of assets though. This is only going to make them stronger. I just feel bad for Max. He's all pumped up about making a team. He's gonna make the team on default now.
Starting point is 01:23:12 Cause guys are leaving left and right. Yeah. Like I will say, we've been right on the rumors for the most part, right? Like we hear a lot of rumors. There's a bunch of guys. I'm sure he can't believe Big Digg Rick hasn't gone yet. I guess there's some back and forth with him and his wife.
Starting point is 01:23:27 wife doesn't want him to go. He wants to go. Dada, Dada, Dada. A couple other guys like big tone keeps getting floated. But I feel like for the most part, we hear a lot of rumors. We haven't reported a lot of them. The ones we have reported. We've been a pretty high hit right on. I'd say so wolf took a little longer to get announced and I thought it would. I thought they announced like last year. I'd say so. Wolf took a little longer to get announced than I thought it would. I thought they announced the class. Yeah, I did. Like it was out there.
Starting point is 01:23:47 20 days ago or something like that. When the Perez thing was happening as well. But no, I, yeah. So him and Bubba, he and Bubba were in the teaser or whatever. So I assume Bubba is only a matter of time. But Paul Kasey would assume. I mean, it just seems like, man, it's like we got to do another, almost every week.
Starting point is 01:24:04 It's like you got to sign in and be like, yeah, I'm good, I'm good still. And then you just gotta hope you don't, I guess the risk of that is you end up looking like Keppka, which I don't know if that was even, I tweeted that out, just went back to his February 23rd press conference, saying like, oh yeah, they'll get their guy, they'll change their offers,
Starting point is 01:24:20 they'll get the guy, somebody will sell out. I was just saying, it's not just the fact that he says no, like it's one thing to flip flop and change your mind and situations changed, whatever. It's not a thing to like, like of course Brooks is going to be the one that that steps up and and sounds like a total joke. Which yeah, I, I really do think I, again, it's all the bots probably on Twitter that come in and say like, you know, we made a career move. Oh, why wouldn't it's all the bots probably on Twitter that come in and say like, you know, only made a career move. Oh, why wouldn't you take all the money? Bull, you would take
Starting point is 01:24:48 it too. As I think I honestly and truly think we are so, so incredibly early in what they owe the Saudis. Oh, yeah. It is like those guys own you. And based on several conversations I've had this past week, I think we have somehow underestimated what they're capable of and how this will almost in all likelihood over the years play out. It's a virtual guarantee that you're gonna be asked to do some things that are so far outside the scope of what you possibly imagined you'd sign up for.
Starting point is 01:25:21 And good luck saying no. Good luck saying no. Gosh, and then imagine like signing your career away to that though. I mean like money's great. It is great. We all, everyone listening to this probably does work of some kind for money.
Starting point is 01:25:34 But like, is it worth, I always say this, like everyone's like, oh, you would take the money. He's like, dude, I can make a shit load of money as a drug dealer if I wanted to. If I wanted to live a super risky life. And like that's what these guys have signed up for. Should run through enterprise. You get cocaine and stuff.
Starting point is 01:25:50 I saw that. No, I mean shit, they've reached out to us a few years ago. Yeah. During the initial Saudi international events, and then since then, it's like, I'm sure we could have cleared a few million bucks, right? Like, it wasn't even a conversation. The one guy that keeps coming up that
Starting point is 01:26:10 he sounds more and more solid for the PGA tour, I'll just give him some props, team rose. Yeah, Excel, Excel, hold the line. Shocking, shocking. Hold on the line, but I think we do. This was somebody who said this earlier that the public- live supporters now have read Bryson
Starting point is 01:26:28 Trump the guys who did 9-11 clay Travis are a flesher Kevin non OJ Simpson. I knew you were giving my uncle juice and that's easy at some point We got to talk about that. We got it. We got to have a real conversation about your uncle juice Which we heard a little birdie This is for the real journalists to follow up on and find out. I don't know if it's final yet, but at least there's chatter about potentially MBS and or DT going to be on site
Starting point is 01:26:55 at the event this week in Portland. And MBS is coming to DC this week anyway. Or New York or something. I think he's coming to these coasts this week anyway and then what a nightmare for the Secret Service. I mean, not only like going to a golf tournament, right? Which is like out in pumpkin ridge, so over the mountains, but you're in Portland,
Starting point is 01:27:15 you've got mountains on one side, you've got a river, a bunch of bridges on another side. It's like a freaking cesspool of extremists on both sides of the equation. I was going to say Portland doesn't play. I mean, they keeps it real. Yeah, Randy. I mean, God, you remember when we went out there last summer? We went down through, you know, down to the courthouse and crazy man. Oh my god dude. It's a
Starting point is 01:27:47 real. Do you think anyone that's signed up is kind of had a whole shit man like what did we do moment yet? I'm sure they will this week when like at some point there'll be sequester in their hotel downtown Portland. Like there's I don't know where they're staying but I'm sure you find like figure it out pretty pretty quickly because there's not that many, like four or five star hotels in downtown Portland. And, uh, it was one thing to do this, you know, outside London, but I think to now do it in the US is, man, it's gonna be, I can't,
Starting point is 01:28:17 I, you know, I scheduled this a long time ago, a vacation where I was gonna skip lesson, I was gonna skip the John Deere classic this week, okay? I was gonna schedule that and it looks like I don't think there is a good week to take a vacation now but this week does not look like a good wood because it is shit's about to pop off I have a feeling so I'm actually going to the John Deere classic oh you are that's right you're going you're taking your son there that's gonna be exciting Freddie Freddie and the franchise
Starting point is 01:28:39 are coming to the John Deere classic board of color um Mick Doyle 5592 asked any info on Brandle Shambles earlier tweet on live prize money being a part of each player's sign up cash. It's tough. It's tough to take Brandle seriously at this point. Brandle is sad. Yeah, it's I can't like when I'm when I'm agreeing with Michael Collins on something like that's that's tough. Michael Collins went in calling it total bullshit. A source had told him it's total bullshit. He has the money. Schwarzele has the money. It's been transferred to him. blah blah. The person next
Starting point is 01:29:13 to me is seeing the transfer. So this is an out out and out lie. So we had heard this. This has been going around about, you know, is the money. It's do some guys have deals where they got, you know, they got advances on future earnings. I think some guys money. It's, do some guys have deals where they got, you know, they got advances on future earnings. Which I think some guys did. It's TBD. There's, you know, we don't know. It's not a universal policy if it is a policy at all, but there is some fine print, I believe,
Starting point is 01:29:36 in some of the contracts with the live guys about, you know, actual money they're getting. But I don't know the answer to that, but Brando's getting put in his place with a lot of that. But yeah, he's gone to the extreme on this. Just like, you know, he's lost the plot. Like, he's lost reality. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Just like he did with the rollback stuff when he flipped flopped on that. Yeah. He's just mad he got blocked. Oh, well, yeah, it is a pan the ass because every time you guys that screenshot, I form and all that stuff. I just, yeah, like, it's a waste,
Starting point is 01:30:05 because I think like Brando's got, he obviously speaks passionately and committed and vociferously, but it's like, it's another thing when clearly you're outgunned on something or you're not on good ground with something. On a much lighter note, you want to give us a breakdown of the slime cup. Oh my God, guys, the slime cup was sick. I looked, I haven't seen it yet, but you ruined the result for me, but I'm excited.
Starting point is 01:30:30 Yeah. So yeah, I told Freddie I was going to be on and he saw some of the commercials we were watching. And he was all excited yesterday. This was, you know, he's on an 8 p.m. on Saturday night on Nickelodeon and Nick Tunes and ended up, you know, he's super excited. It's like 715. He's on an 8 p.m. on Saturday night on Nickelodeon and Nick tunes and Ended up, you know, he's super excited. It's like 715. He's super excited. It's 730. He falls asleep at 740 And there's no chance he was getting back up for us. I'm like, all right. We'll watch it in the morning It'll be it'll be coffee golf, you know, not to interrupt you. Sorry or tease is next and now announced for it for the list There's there's one more guy that's gonna be announced That I know of I don't know if it's for this week or for next and now announce for it. Which there's one more guy that's gonna be announced that I know of.
Starting point is 01:31:06 I don't know if it's for this week or for, you know, a future week for Chicago or Boston or wherever. Randy, you're gonna laugh your ass off. I'm not gonna ruin it. I can't say it right now, but it's hilarious. But anyway, slime cup. So turn it on this morning. And so it's Lexi is the pink team.
Starting point is 01:31:27 I don't know the the orange team. She's got Sequan Barkley on her team. Morikawa had Terry Cruz on his team. And then like each of them had a kid on their team as well. And then Ram had Justin Herbert, which Randy, he carried himself with points. Like, Randy's talked so much shit about Justin Herbert on the trap trail. You don't wait. He's the best quarterback of all time. And he's just done du-Jack shit. He was, I was super impressed with him. Terry Cruz, son, I think, was on, he was on, other, his team or JT's team. and then JT had a team and JT had God who was his his athlete
Starting point is 01:32:10 Trying to think but anyway, it was it was so basically there was a there was a teenage mutant ninja turtle like pizza hole that they had like they had to eat There was like spin the wheel and you had to spin it and there was like a pizza with jelly beans and gummy worms on it. There was a pizza with asparagus and marshmallows on it, you know, all this stuff. And then there was, there was another challenge where like, they had to sling shot something and hit the, hit a cart that was moving around out there. Like the golf course they filmed it that was like,
Starting point is 01:32:42 it was kind of rough. Well, yeah. But then, so then it kind of all leads into, Murakawa got totally Alfred by Terry Cruz. Like Murakawa just like, he looked like completely overwhelmed in out of place. So he, so he, he's an empty vessel. Him, he and Lexi got eliminated early.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Lexi was a great sport and like they're playing like JT was hitting. There was this Paw Patrol challenge where they're hitting, you know, like like Rob, Rob lost one of the challenges. So he had to hit shots with a, with his sponge bomb square pants thing on. And then like, you know, they're getting slined. There's an air horn going off. It was fun, man. The commercial load was a little heavy. I thought I swear to God, the commercial load was a little heavy.
Starting point is 01:33:31 They had a slime tracer, which was cool. But no, it was fast paced, freniating the board. It was an hour long. It's great for the kids. And so then they advanced to the, like there was know, there was this, this club that was made out of dog bones from like Paw Patrol. They're hitting really
Starting point is 01:33:51 good shots with that. And it was funny. Like they're, their actual shot shapes, like, stayed the same as what they are. Really? Normally. And then Rob had like this, this super, or ramen JT had these super like bent clubs as well. There was a WWE lady on JT team. That I can confirm Nikki Bella, who was JT's partner. I was not familiar with her work, but anyway, then they go to the Rose Bowl and it was it was too quick in the rose bowl. Like it was basically, you know, it was like two minutes timed and you know, they had to hit certain targets and everything, but the finish was insane. JT just comes from there way down. They come from behind. It was it was Cinderella shit, man. It was awesome. JT and ROM were could not have been like
Starting point is 01:34:44 more engaging and entertaining. Which I heard they did that for free. Like the PJ tour guys did not get paid for this thing. We texted Max this morning. We're like, yo, like I was thinking of guys that would be good in it. Like Fina would be great in it. Max would be great in it. Like, try to think about like which, which female stars would be great.
Starting point is 01:35:03 You know, be so good at that, Randy. He might win it. Isn't it crazy? I think the big takeaway for me with the slime cup is maybe we should have people outside the game of golf be the ones responsible for trying to grow the game of golf. Love that. Basically anybody but NBC is what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:35:23 Yes. Yes. Maybe your boy Mark King at Taco Bell should take on you know He used to be it. I know I tell her what the fuck off. He had some ideas. What's up? Like also it they got to just do the slime Like like a telecast at some point like an hour or two hours USG a should do it if nothing out. Like USGA, PJ Ave America, somebody do an hour or two hours and just produce it like you did the...
Starting point is 01:35:51 If I can stop you right here, let's just have them focus on what they got going right now. I don't need any more curve balls. All they gotta do is just give the feed to Nickelodeon. That's what the NFL did, right? I know, yeah, I guess. It was really entertaining. I mean, it was funny.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Yeah, it's good for kids. It's too early. And I didn't understand it before, and? I know, yeah, I guess. It was really entertaining. I mean, it was funny. Yeah, it's good for kids. It's too early. And like, I didn't understand it before. And now I have kids. And like, when I flip on, like, it's JT, and I know it's not real golf, but like when Freddie's interested in it, like, it legitimately does help.
Starting point is 01:36:16 Like, when I turn on a major, he's like, oh, that's JT from, you know, or that's John Rom, who's on the red team, data. That's truly growing the game, the red team. These are Ferrari driver. You wanna give a shout out to the upcoming Cincinnati event. Yeah, we released it this week in our newsletter. It's in kind of the same in sync cross city,
Starting point is 01:36:39 I think you would call, with the Queen City, what's the LPGA tour event called, Randy? Oh God, the Queen City Classic maybe. Queen City Classic, the real Queen City. I was gonna say, yeah, Charlotte, just stand down, Charlotte, we don't need to hear from you. Yeah, Queen City LPGA Championship. It's presented by Kroger and Procter & Gamble.
Starting point is 01:37:02 I'd be remiss if I didn't find any six. DC, you might not be welcome. I might make a couple of phone calls and get you a barred from the court. Well, from what it sounds like, it sounds like publics is rolling deep up and there are all sorts of new stores they're opening up in Northern Kentucky, but we won't go there. Same weekend is that it's September 9th, 10th and 11th. We're doing golf out at Springfield Country Club with the US Open sectional qualifying. And then we've got hospitality out at the LPGA event kind of in between three holes. So you can see T off on one hole, green on
Starting point is 01:37:39 another hole, and then like the fairway on an adjacent hole as well. So I know there's it's going to be Skyline Chilly out there. We're calling it the Queen City for a way. We'll have a lot of friends, like college friends, family members. I know my parents are coming. Randy, I know your family's going to be there as well. So I hope your parents are going to make the trip to our Columbus.
Starting point is 01:38:00 So it will kind of be an NLU homecoming of sorts. We've got a few spots left. We just released it two or three days ago here. So get involved. Just get on our refuge.knowlingup.com. The events section is is open to the public there. So you can you can navigate that and it's called the Queen City Four Way. So we're stoked for that and stoked to just it's kind of all day like it's the golf sun Friday and then we've got a meetup at Madtree Brewing on Friday night and then all day at the LPGA event on Saturday and optional golf on Sunday if you're so inclined but kind of trying to blow it out for this first first Cincinnati LPGA event. So excited for it. Great. Very exciting. Yeah excited for it. Great.
Starting point is 01:38:45 Very excited. Yeah, I can't wait. I can't wait. And then otherwise, it was a cool article, or a cool story told on our Refuge Message Board here of late. I think we put it up on our website as well. Just a really cool story about Anthony Kim and kind of a make-a-wish opportunity from, I'm not even sure how long ago it was
Starting point is 01:39:07 like 10 or 15 years ago, and just kind of the friendship and the relationship that's blossomed from that for somebody who's in our community and just a fantastic story that kind of made my week. That was in our newsletter this week as well, and you can find our newsletter at newsletter.nolangup.com slash subscribe. And then we got some merch updates. Yeah, just NLU summer collection. It's here in a big way.
Starting point is 01:39:36 We got some cool summer designs. All sorts of kind of retro Miami vice stuff. We got some icy themed stuff. And then we've got some I.C. Theme stuff and then we've got some, you know, real kind of retro, almost like that retro pebble logo as well. So good stuff there. We're working hard on the fall stuff. The H&B fall stuff, we're getting the samples this week in advance of Taurus sauce cannot wait to get that stuff out into the wild.
Starting point is 01:40:04 It's going to be fantastic. So all sorts of good stuff in the pro shop and it's getting better every week now. We're kind of finally ahead of some of the supply chain issues. I'd like to close just by saying a shout out to everyone that came out to the KPMG Women's PGA this week. Had a lot of people that came up and said, yeah, I saw your tweet and I decided to bring my kids out and they're having so much fun. KVV was out there with his daughter and at one point she turned to him and said,
Starting point is 01:40:27 like, dad, this is so much fun. And that was, that was heartwarming. I think we've, you know, we've been pretty staunch in saying if a LPJ event comes to your town or within your shot, one, it's worth your time. If you are a listener of this show, and especially if you have young kids, it is very, very, very much worth your time to be able to see. Very high level golf, extremely close up, almost always with a great view of exactly what's going on. And so thanks for those that took us up on that and came by to say hello.
Starting point is 01:40:55 It was an awesome, awesome, awesome event to be at. And I already can't wait for next year. Where is it at? This Rawl. That's okay. I'm glad you said that, so I was going to wait for next year. Where is it at? This Rawl. Oh, that's okay. So I'm glad you said that, Holly, because I was gonna say the same thing. Highlight of, highlight of my week,
Starting point is 01:41:09 getting to take a couple pictures with some young ladies. My girl, Virginia was so excited to tell me about the birdie she saw Lexi make. It was just awesome to see. And also some guys just on their own. You were like, you know, I've never been to an LPGA
Starting point is 01:41:26 tournament. And God, I, you know, I think they had fun. I would do the same. If you have a chance to get out there, even if you don't have kids, I think it's a great time. You can get up close and watch some really good golf. So what's next on the LPGA schedule? They have a few weeks off and then they play the Dow team event up in back up in Michigan, Midland, Michigan, and then they go overseas for the Evion and then into the Scottish and then into the women's open. So and then into Northern Ireland. And then in Northern Ireland, watch out for our news. Our young hitter Madeline Sackstrom's gonna have a fun partner at Dow right here. So more coming there.
Starting point is 01:42:10 So we've posted. So with that, be ready for some shit to pop off this week. Just Bob Herrick just posted a couple articles just talking about the prepared reaction around the event in Portland, especially the mayor of the the town, the official town that the Portland event is going to be at. I don't know if it's a hero. As you know said, we believe we have a moral obligation to take a stand and speak out
Starting point is 01:42:38 against this event in order to protect the people we serve while our local jurisdictions may not be able to prevent this event. We stand together to voice our concerns about the unwelcome to potential risks, visitors and harm this event could have on our communities. Pumpkin Ridge is it's it's really weird because it's like you think of Portland, you think of kind of the hills and the river and all that. Pumpkin Ridge is way out west. And it's like it's flat, West. And it's like, it's flat, formal and valley there. And it's going to be a really, really bizarre setting, I think. And I'll just ask the people that you take in, just keep an eye on, if you're going to watch it this week, keep an eye on the propaganda that comes from the telecast.
Starting point is 01:43:17 And those that will be reporting on what's happening outside of it around Portland in terms of, I'm sure there's going to be a ton ton of, oh there's so many fans here, and we're welcome with open arms and... Crisis actors. Yeah, I don't think that's going to be the reality of it, but I could very well be wrong, but it's gonna be interesting to see how that plays out and how the independent news sources handle that
Starting point is 01:43:38 versus the propaganda machines. So. Yeah, and just keep, I would say keep an eye on who's, who's bought and paid for on Instagram, on Twitter, all that stuff. Shout out to Dirty Mike. All right, we will. Dirty Mike rules. We'll wrap it at that. Thank you everyone for tuning in. Thank you guys for being here and we'll see you back here this time next week. Cheers. Track on.
Starting point is 01:44:00 Be the right club today. That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Expect anything different.

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