No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 583: Sunday Open Championship Recap

Episode Date: July 18, 2022

Cam Smith roars back with a final round 64 to take the Open Championship, Rory gets stuck in neutral, Cameron Young misses out by a shot, and the boys are forced to listen to TC gloat. We discuss why ...some of us feel things about Rory and why some don't, highlights from the final round, a check-in on our boy Jamie Weir, LIV stuff (all on the back end!), and everything else recapping a memorable week.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah! That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Expect anything different! Better than most! Expect anything different!
Starting point is 00:00:34 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the no-ling up live from the Kill House. Sunday, open championship edition, Sally here, DJs here, hello DJ. Hey guys, how are we doing? Happy to be here. Really good, doing really good, Randy is here, hello Randy. we doing? Happy to be here. Really good doing really good. Randy is here. Hello, Randy. I am so happy to be here. Niels here. Hello, Neil. Yeah, we just cleaned out the grease trap. Got it. Got some some pickup to do in the front yard. So if you guys after this want to help out, that'd be great.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Yeah. I got some stuff to do. Neil, I'd love to, but I got to hit the road. Yeah, that's all right. I got some stuff to do. Neil, I'd love to, but I got to hit the road. Yeah, that's all right. I got it TC wanted to be here. He did but he just he overcome with emotions. He's part he's out partying with cam's team I don't I don't think we're gonna see him today unfortunately probably not probably won't see TC but God, he's absolutely chuffed right now. He probably really wants the ice update, Neil. Ice, ice one, ice out lasted the rib. Shout out to Yeti.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Shout out to the Rodi and the wheels, made it easy to kind of carry it around the party, the block party all day. So yeah, shout out to Yeti and Yeti.com highly recommend the Rodi, comes in a bunch of different sizes and I don't think the ice is going to last to LaGusta, but we can dream.
Starting point is 00:01:50 And I do think it's going to last through Chez Fest tonight and I will be watching and drinking while I while I do that. You can see there the leftover wedding champagne is is not in there anymore. TC grabbed that before before you ran out of the house. So thanks to Yeti. Thanks to everyone that showed up. It was fun. It was great part.
Starting point is 00:02:11 It was fun. And let today's result be no reflection on Yeti's product. Let me just say that as well. Well, no, I mean, it's a there tough competition. It's hard. The ice is hard to beat, man. We've proved it four times this year. It's just difficult.
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Starting point is 00:02:48 think i hear tron carter's music maybe i think i do oh shit the champ is here did you see it tron shaving the goatee to fully embrace embrace bad guy He's harsh all the way around man harsh harsh takes harsh look Harsh result today. There we have wait T.C. Let's go to you first, huh as as the No, let's go to you guys you literally said you can I go first? You asked I'm tossing it back to you guys. Do you, I'm gonna go one by one.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Solid first. Do you have anything to say? I would like to, um, I'm going to be very direct in this. I want to apologize, uh, for, you know, you know, kind of, I wouldn't say I was dancing on cam's grave. I just was, I would say you were. I actually was one of the few that said it is not a two horse race. Last night, if you will, if you have that, but you know, it is, it's interesting. You got, it's kind of like a fantasy football lineup thing. You have the, you know, over in this league,
Starting point is 00:03:55 I've got no one's ever invested as much in Rory as I have. And over in this side, we have Cam Smith, this is the greatest call forever. So either way, you played your cards perfectly. Either way, you were going to win today. So he hit the bingo and I do want to just congratulate you on that. So very, very big of you. Play both sides. So I always come out on top. I, you know, I've been doing a lot of clean-up. I haven't had a chance to really drill down and reflect. I have, I don't have anything to apologize
Starting point is 00:04:21 for. I went all in on Rory and Bogey free round, couldn't make a putt, that's tough. And I want to say, Camp Smith is a man-eating dog and he deserves all the credit in the world. He went out and won this tournament. And I like Camp. I wasn't rooting for Camp,
Starting point is 00:04:37 but what a performance he put on today. And Camp plays golf in the way that I envy it. He has the shortest memory on the professional tour and he just non-DJ diversion. I mean, I would say maybe, you know, I would say maybe DJ Jason. Yeah, like just doesn't let what happened yesterday affect him stays on the gas pedal at all times. It's burned him in the past, sticks with his game plan though, of I'm gonna, I'm gonna go after these motherfucking pins or left all the time and it pays off.
Starting point is 00:05:10 And it sometimes it burns them, but man, like you can't argue with today's results. So congrats to Cam. I'm really happy for him and DJ, I'm gutted, I'm gutted for the boys, I'm gutted for the block part. Big, big, you're cool for the most part, you're cool. Even though you've been shitting on St. Andrews all week We will get to that later in the show DJ
Starting point is 00:05:28 Do you have anything to say for yourself? I do I made a lot of a lot of missteps yesterday And I'm here to own them TC. I know this is a big day for you But but also a sad day. I know nobody's written for Rory harder than you in the past and this is this is a Bittersweet day for you. I know I called it a two horse race. I thought Cam was dead in the water. I thought his decision at 13 yesterday really kind of showed us who he was. And I think today did a much better job of showing us who he is. And it's TC. I don't know how much more I can underscore it. How much more I can say, you were right, I was wrong,
Starting point is 00:06:06 you're smart, I'm dumb. Hell yeah. You were a hard-hearted man. You were a hard-hearted man. You were a hard-hearted man. You were a hard-hearted man. You were a hard-hearted man. You were a hard-hearted man.
Starting point is 00:06:15 You were a hard-hearted man. You were a hard-hearted man. You were a hard-hearted man. You were a hard-hearted man. You were a hard-hearted man. You were a hard-hearted man. You were a hard-hearted man. You were a hard-hearted man.
Starting point is 00:06:23 You were a hard-hearted man. You were a hard-hearted man. You were a hard-hearted man. You were a hard-hearted man. You were a hard't know what you can do better than that, man. Holy fucking shit. Kat never did that in a major. Let's just be very clear. Kat never did that in a major. Kat's a front runner. He's a front runner. Even if Rory ends up winning, what can provided to the championship just by getting involved after Victor just completely shat himself.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Victor was a non-fact. We'll get there and everything. Cody, do you have the video by chance from last night to roll in? No. No, he does not. Okay. We'll dig up the tape. Also, I'll get on it for you, but also Fleetwood shot 66, 67 on the weekend. I just I want you guys to know that as well. I 30 on the back nine from Cam guys. And you know what? I was really impressed with he came out on one. he didn't get too cute with it on one. That pin was hard up against the burn on one.
Starting point is 00:07:11 He kind of took his medicine, had a 20 footer coming back. He didn't force the issue to really. He played insanely smart today. He did know nothing, when he got to 17, when he was tucked behind that bunker, he did the exact smartest thing you could have possibly done. The safest play, the biggest margin for error.
Starting point is 00:07:27 He did everything, it was perfectly executed. He damn near hold it on two. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You know, find on three and four. Birdies five. That was kinda, all right, let's go baby. And then-
Starting point is 00:07:41 Look, I have a long birdie on five, too. Yeah. That was, that kind of felt like the momentum swing. That was the one that didn't bring us. That was the one that didn't bring us. You're getting really frustrated and started to press. Yeah. And that was the one that didn't go in yesterday. Really like that, that kind of portion of the round.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Played smart, six and seven, eight had a great two putt on eight. And then nine was like, fuck man, we needed that one. Like when he didn't birdie nine was when I was kind of like, fuck man, we needed that one. Like when that, when he didn't birdie nine, was when I was kinda like, ah, all right, this is, this is just gonna be a long, slow, boring coronation for Rory on the back nine. And then birdies 10, fantastic birdie on 10, and then in my opinion, the shot of the tournament was on 11.
Starting point is 00:08:20 That was, that was it, man. It was like, and then he jars the putt, but it was like, I knew he was gonna hit a good iron shot into was, that was it, man. It was like, and then he jarras the putt, but it was like, I knew he was going to hit a good iron shot into 11. That was the tone setter right there. And then he, and then he birdies the chip on 12. He birdies 12. That was grotesque. That was really tough because then Rory's leaking. He just not make it. He put it up on 12. The chip on 10 was the one where he slices nipples off. He chipped his tits off up over the rid. Yes, that was that was 10 okay that was yeah that was no nipple nation it was uh... it was like the uh... the unsullied game it through
Starting point is 00:08:51 as the nipples were gone at that point and then after after the debacle on 13 yesterday birdies 13 plays it properly good pen on 13 I really like that pin uh... 13 6 yeah and 14 he hits a he he hits a grow test shot and 14. Can I make a rub of the green? He missed his equal putt. Will you apologize for that? He missed, he had 110 foot equal putt did not make it.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Do you have anything to say about that? I think he was actually off the green. He was, he was. He was. So, you know, T.C. And a serious point, you mentioned it on Slack. That was the difference, right? Was where cam missed on 14 versus where Rory missed on 14.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Was that was the whole thing and that was kind of that was I was trying to I was whipping the whip and the horse down the stretch trying to get everything out of rory I still kind of there it was a there were still a much larger part of me than I'm willing to admit that thought he was legitimately going to make it on 18 and but but really when he didn't make birdie and fourteen was kind of like i'd get this over we've seen this movie before and and that was tough uh... dj you may have been doing some bob baffert type stuff to rory down the star was not no you know no stone left unturned
Starting point is 00:09:57 coming coming down the stretch there but and then and then came and then came hits a, you know, hits iron off 15. Good drive there takes, takes some of the trouble. Or on 16, 15 he had a really good iron shot into 15 from, from that rough. 16 hits the iron takes that out of, takes the shit out of play. And then hits the iron hits the iron from like 194. No, off the tee off the tee.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Oh, no, sorry. Well, when he pulled iron hits the iron from like 194. They're off the tee off the tee. Oh, no, oh, sorry. Yeah, he's not iron into the green was like iron off the tee. That was the moment. Oh, that was grotesque. Yeah, I was texting you guys that that is like the I was kind of waiting. The only card we had up our sleeve was like maybe cam will will kind of make a cam decision down the stretch here and 16 was the chance that he could have done it.
Starting point is 00:10:45 That was the time that that could have happened. And what like that might have been the shot of the golf tournament. Holy shit. And I do. There is a little bit of like of what happens in golf, though. Like he hit it behind the bunker on 17 and within a foot of the bunker on 16 and got the bounces and got it in it up in spots where it was like, okay. Like he got away with it.
Starting point is 00:11:03 But Rory did as well. Rory barely missed that little bunker on 16. It was, it was like, okay, like he got away with it, but Rory did as well. Rory barely missed that little bunker on 16. It was, it was just very much like you have to play so close to these bunkers to win the championship. And it's like that on repeat and the dude that misses him is going to win and the dude that gets caught up in him is not going to. And he, the put on 17 from in front of the bunker.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Oh gosh. And that's like the worst place in golf. And the clutch par saved 12 footer. Like that was, he made that look easy. That's not, that's a below 50% put. And also just some of the putts too. Like, you know, he, he, he, he lagged putt it exceptionally well. Like the long lags that he had,
Starting point is 00:11:35 he put them in close range and the ones he didn't put in close range. He slammed the door on those, pulls driver on 18. Maddie was like, there's no way he pulls driver on 18. And I was like, you know, and then he pulls it. And then that put also was crazy because then can't young makes the eagle putt.
Starting point is 00:11:52 It was just, man, it was a master class. It was a 30 down the stretch. It was kind of what I was hoping for yesterday with just stepping up to the plate. But it's like, it's almost like he needs his back against the wall or he needs to feel like, he needs to be chasing, right? Yeah. to feel like he's a better chaser. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:06 I don't know. I'm just I know I think I feel like he's a better front runner still. I mean, I know he kind of proved that wrong, but I feel like he makes bad decisions. Like he didn't today, but in the past he has. That's where we've seen him DJ alluded to it a couple nights ago at the FedEx. St. Jude, when he's trying to punch out of the trees and hit it OB. You know, that style plays Burnham, but like, hey man, if that plays better when you're chasing.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Yeah, I agree. I mean, it works sometimes. Yeah, that's kind of the thing is. Well, I guess when he's up, he doesn't have to do as much of that stuff. So I thought 17 solid was a good example of what you've kind of been saying all week as the counter to the CAM decision making process where it was so obvious that he couldn't go at that pin that it forced him out to make the 12 footer. And then it's like, well, he's the best person in the field at making 12 footer. So that was kind of, I thought that was a good example of like, there's even CAM was
Starting point is 00:12:59 not going to try to like, hold that or put it close or anything like it was so obvious that he had to take his medicine there. And he executed it to perfection. Kind of a kind of an interesting decision on 17 though. Like he could have gone long left, right? He could have gone over to 18 T. Well, he had a good spot. Definitely an interesting decision to leave a second shot there.
Starting point is 00:13:17 That was not good. That was not good. Yeah, but it's like, that's the natural progression from, all right, you don't want to be on the road. You don't want to be able to buy the, you know, over by the wall. And, you know, so like Bobby Jones, the long left play, the Icarito pop Jones plays.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I don't know. I'm just, I'm just, it's flat over there. I'm so, I'm so happy. Cause like not only did he win, he won with like, you know, some people have said, is it a Tom Watson's Duke sync kind of thing? And like, I think Cam's a much more compelling,
Starting point is 00:13:47 much more dynamic story than Tom Watson. And I think Cam has a... Then Stuart Sink, you mean? Or then Stu Sink, I think Cam has a remarkable career in front of him. And... Where? We'll get to that.
Starting point is 00:14:01 But like, everybody was rooting against him today. Which, like, for the only reason that who he was up against. Like I've never rooted against Cam and it was not fun to root against Cam and I don't have a reason to. But that doesn't change the fact that everybody was rooting against him. Like it doesn't make him feel any better.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Right. But I love watching him play golf and I'm, I mean, a Cam Smith fan, it's just a tough draw. You know, you gotta pick a side today. And I'm glad he got one now. Like, it feels like he's going to have, you know, a great major championship career. But like, we've seen this with a lot of dudes
Starting point is 00:14:32 I was thinking about this day, like with roms kind of drop off this year, spieths drop off, Rory over the last eight years. Jason Day, like, you name it, like, you, it feels like these guys are probably going to be really competitive in majors for longer than they will. And if you don't get it, like now? Like who knows if you actually will. Only have so many chances. You only truly only have so many chances.
Starting point is 00:14:50 And the champ, like, Cam could have turned into, you know, you guys shit out of them all the time, Tommy Fleetwood. And it's like Fleetwood T4 by the way today. I will apologize for that too. You know, like, very, very just like Fleetwood's had his chances and he hasn't gotten it done. And he's been a little bit too far back going into it, but Man, I just I'm like I just love I love watching Kim Smith play golf I respect the hell out of him the way that he works works as ass off like he's he's never been in His entire life. He's never been the guy. There's always been other guys, Ryan Ruffles
Starting point is 00:15:25 or lock or other guys that have always been more highly touted than him along the way. And he's worked his ass off and he does the right shit and he like, he plays real golf. And I will a Paul, not quite apologize, but add some context to something we were talking about last night about who's a better iron player. And Cam has been a better iron player this year than Rory. But historically, he has been so much worse. And Rory's been a elite iron player for a long time outside of the range you guys mentioned, which he cleaned up this year and he finished top 10 and all the majors. Will you apologize for that?
Starting point is 00:15:58 Probably not. Let's move on. Cam, like to your work ethic point, like I think that kind of got a lot of run earlier in the year, right? When he, you know, balled out at Coppoluua and he played well at the players and stuff, but like the jump that he's made in Iron Play is why we're seeing what we're seeing, right? That is so freaking hard to do.
Starting point is 00:16:21 And we're not just talking about like he he went from like To third he went from like a hundred and tenth to third or a hundred and twenty to third like he has made a Massive jump in in how well he's been striking the ball. So it's and it was the difference today the difference was was putting He and at and you know, I would say it's proximity because I felt like Rory had a twenty-footer all day and he had a few i think the difference was everything today can lead the field in putting for the week he gained eight shots on the greens alone over rory like he he he won this tournament with his potter and some of that in some of that was the lag putting today but also like the tripping was better today the the the placement on the driving was better
Starting point is 00:17:03 today like it was everything was a little bit better today. It's just, Cam has an immense amount of self belief. And it does, it's not cocky, it's not arrogant, it's just like, really, really cool confidence that it does not play for second place. I appreciate that. I respect the hell out of it. And I love, it's just, it's everything that I want from my
Starting point is 00:17:24 favorite athletes. Randy who just who just came remind you of you got a good comp and also just you know please feel free to dance on anybody's grave anything you want to do people people are saying Randy was pulling a tube in. What does that mean? Looking up after that. Yeah, just looking up. You didn't realize you were on camera anymore. It was what it means. Yeah, that's a good question. I don't have a great comp for Cam. It was a great performance down the stretch.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I mean, I don't know how many accolades to add on to what you're saying, TC. It was, he just went out and he got it. I think beyond that, I was so impressed with Cam Young and the fight that he showed. He won me over today. Yeah. I'll hold out, I'll remove myself until we get to the Rory portion.
Starting point is 00:18:28 I'll leave it up to you guys wherever you want to go. Sure. Well, I have something I want to say about Cam. I think that of all the people on that leaderboard today, he feels like when he took over the lead because of how good of a putter he is, it just feel like the hope just drains out of you because for a year now, you just know he's going to make those six footers, like, because
Starting point is 00:18:49 he knows he's going to make them. Whereas there's other guys like, oh, I don't know, man, like there's a, he just shuts the door with what, like what he did on 17 was just like, that's vintage cam. And it's like, it just stomps on the hope. And it's like, man, if you can have that get out of jail free putter, it's very difficult when he just got a one shot lead, it was like, damn it. That's so tough.
Starting point is 00:19:11 It was kind of like watching, I was gonna say, it's kind of like watching Polter, the Ryder Cup at Medina in terms of just like, I can't get in front of that. It's like he's going and you can't stop it. There's nothing you can do. Especially when you're on many par fives down the stretch after 14.
Starting point is 00:19:26 I mean, it was in the house here, when Roy didn't birdie 12, we were kneeling, I were flipping couch. It's just had no insurance. We had no flooded insurance. And the women were like, oh, come on, there's put it in. No, you don't understand, this is not, this is not adding up now.
Starting point is 00:19:40 People is not billing us out. Yeah. They were like, wait, you guys would be so negative. I'm like, no, we gotta get those now. That's good. That was the chance. Deeds, were you gonna say? I was gonna, it's a kind of weird comp,
Starting point is 00:19:50 but it almost reminds me of what you're saying, Neil, a little bit of like when Jason Daye was on his run for like 18 months there, where it's just like, dude, he's just, of course, he's not gonna go backwards. Like, he's gonna make everything inside 10 feet. And it just, that's the way it goes. And hopefully to your point, Sali, it's like, for Cam, you just never quite know
Starting point is 00:20:09 how long those waves are gonna ride, right? And he seems very streaky and he seems a little inconsistent. And I'm with you and that I'm glad he got one because you never know how long it's gonna last. And I hope it lasts. Long may he mage as a friend of the pod, Job Ficket texted me today, but you never quite know how long that's gonna be. So. and I hope it lasts long. Long may he mage as a friend of the pod job ficket texted me today, but you know,
Starting point is 00:20:26 you never quite know how long that's going to be. So it's came the guy like he's like a guy in the playoffs. He's like a second baseman. Like just a gritty second baseman that hits in the two hole. Jose Altove. And he's like, he's like, he's like, Pajroyo, where like, I don't want him for a full season. But man, do I want him in a seven game series?
Starting point is 00:20:48 And that's what, respectfully, that's where I'll go for the Pine Valley match that you're calling for is. Yeah, oh yeah. If you schedule, I think we need the Pine Valley match. Okay. You schedule, cam at the wrong time, he's gonna boat race Rory.
Starting point is 00:21:00 I'm with you. But you schedule like, on average, you schedule that match 15 times over 15 years, Roy's gonna beat the fuck out of him, like 11 times out of 15. I totally get it. Roy's the big ETS also, like the ceiling. That's my whole thing, his cam is, when cam is on, when he rises to the challenge,
Starting point is 00:21:19 like Roy's the Vanguard 2055, you bet on him, he's the blue chip that's just gonna, you can ride out, you know, all sorts of economic cycles with him. Bam, when the market's hot, I'm going with cam, baby. Cam's crypto. Yes. Took the words out of my mouth. Sure. All right, Cody, what do we have?
Starting point is 00:21:38 We have, we have some receipts here. I don't know if this plays or if this is just the image of TC. We need to watch it. Yeah, we all know what we all know what he's watching. Let's watch it. I can't calm out quite yet. I got a few. I'm counting them out.
Starting point is 00:21:50 I got a feeling. Wow. He doesn't win. Will you apologize? We know the answer. All right. Thank you. If he doesn't shoot 66 or better, I'll apologize.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Okay. Okay. Good to know. 66 or better. Deal. You all heard it. Thanks everyone I think I will end the show there. Thanks everyone. Yeah, thanks Stop and buy it by the way. What did Roy sure today 70 70 first time in the 70s? We'll talk about that. I think we're ready to turn the page over to the Roy category
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Starting point is 00:23:30 Randy's a Joker. You just wants to watch the world burn. Let me just say I could not be more happy and excited to drink all of the Rory tears today. Um, you know, golf is so much better when we get big factions that get big mad. You know, this this felt like a coronation all week. It felt everybody was getting out ahead of themselves. It was just wonderful, wonderful to see so many people disappointed.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Christmas truly was canceled this morning and I could not be happier. You're back. As a lifelong Phil Mickelson fan, can you relate to how hard feeling right now? Of course. Of course. That's why he's relishing that. Yeah. You think 2006 at WingFo was any fun? That was miserable. You think Tiger? you think the Tiger Faction held back? Oh, I'm so sorry, you must be so disappointed. You know, your guy lost in such a heartbreaking fashion. I'm sorry. Now get out of here.
Starting point is 00:24:34 That's part of what made golf so fun. Sure. You would get it from the Tiger people when Phil would win, you could give it back. And somehow this Rory has become like an untouchable guy that just is above everything and I say screw that. This was this was magnificent. He totally gagged it away today. Yeah, he got no idea why he's race and he finished third as a wonderful
Starting point is 00:24:58 tweet. That is pretty remarkably finished third. He's trying to ace it. Oh my God. No. Don't we're gonna treat him with kid glory. We're not doing that. No, that's the reality. He finished third. He finished third. That's the reality.
Starting point is 00:25:12 He put him in that position in the first place. At the same time, if he finishes third or 20, if you treat him the same. So I don't care what his final finishing position is. How about the other guy that finished in the two, that was supposedly the two horse race, finished T4. Not great.
Starting point is 00:25:25 So you guys told me, I mean, where am I wrong? You know, like life sucks right now for me. Michelson almost broke Progolf, he blocked me on Twitter. You know, oh, I'm sorry, Rory, you know, shot 70 and finished third at a major. Life's life's really tough. Like get out of here. Where I do think you're wrong is I don't think
Starting point is 00:25:43 that he gagged it away. I don't, I don't think he he gagged it away. I don't. I don't think he went out and got it, but he didn't rise to the, he did not. He didn't rise to the, but he didn't gag it away. He didn't hit it off the fucking grandstands. He didn't hit it into the Russak hotel or anything like that. And maybe that's worse.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Yes, maybe it's worse. Maybe it's worse because it just slipped away and he didn't gag it. But I, that's where trust me. This is not worse. The only thing that's the only thing I would push back on Otherwise, I think your take is solid, but I wait. My problem. Go ahead, DJ. Now go ahead. I ranny. I had I had not really truly grasped your is it a bit? Is it not a bit? What what is this whole thing? It was making me very frustrated until I think we talked about this right before
Starting point is 00:26:25 we went live. And I was like, Hey, you know, your favorite player was disinvited from the fucking champions dinner. And he's like, Yeah, exactly. You think my life's so fucking cool right now? Morakawa stinks. Phil's not even invited into like all this like jerk off fest that the R&A is doing. Like, and when you put it that way, it actually just made me laugh really hard. And I think I could, I could, I regret nothing on the R&A is doing like and when you put it that way it actually just made me laugh really hard and I think I could I could I I regret nothing on the Rory front. He's my favorite player in golf today fucking sucked, but Randy I truly for the first time see where you're coming from and I and I you know what I support it. I'm with you Here's what I don't support people have been sending messages
Starting point is 00:27:00 You're right to present this take but here's the problem. I'll disagree with it. Here's the problem It's like it's like all right Well all all these guys like Rory and blah blah blah. There's probably like a reason why over rot No, it's so overwrought though. It's what does that what do you mean? It just from the media? I've never seen people just want something believe in yeah, I'm putting this guy on a pedestal Which which yeah, he's a great guy great great great great great great great great great But but to hear it for oh my god to see it and and to get the rory, you know Crowning before he's even won it was just it was really like you guys you guys So I got some of the apology from last night was that shit last night was
Starting point is 00:27:41 Observed the shit that we were hearing for you guys, just. As of what? What do we say? Just the slurping of Rory. There's not a lot of the opportunity. There's not a lot to get excited about in Pro Golf right now. And I find, I feel like I'm a bad sports fan to begin with. Like any sport, don't get much out of, like I don't ride for a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I do find myself rooting for Rory authentically and yeah, today sucked, but I'm like, I felt some things and I'm, I'm in it for the long haul. That's good for golf. So Randy, somebody asked Randy this morning, hey, who wins? Did he says golf? I was just saying, check the tape. I also, I said, I said, I said that I'm making myself emotionally available for this. I totally was. I have no regrets about that.
Starting point is 00:28:29 There's no point in following sports or golf. If you're not gonna do that. And at no point did I insinuate in any way that I, this was a coronation and that Roy was destined to win this. I very, very, very much knew this was a possibility of happening. 100 million percent. But it just makes it that last night, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:44 he scared me. He scared me. He scared me right now. Yeah. If you've noticed my tone of that whole, I was excited about the opportunity that when I saw Jamie, I was nervous now. Then I was like, oh god, this is not a good sign. Randy, I get what you're saying about like, oh, it's a circle jerk and everybody's just coordinating. Randy, but I, or Rory, but I think that Rory, maybe he deserves some credit. He makes, he makes a lot of people root for him.
Starting point is 00:29:07 There's something there, right? You can't say that about really a lot of other golfers in the game right now. Maybe spieth is in that category, but like he's whipped the votes, man. He's kind of, he's the, what's the guy from station 11, Deage? He's the profit, man. The profit. Yeah. And you see all the kids falling's the profit, man. The profit. Yeah. And you see all the kids falling about the fairway?
Starting point is 00:29:26 Yeah. Damn right, I did. Like, a people want to root for him. And he's relatable. And I think that I was, I wanted him to feel good. I didn't want to see him tearing up after the run. And you know who else was in that category back in the day, Randy? Phil Mikkelsen.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Of course, of course, that's the whole thing. Like, I, this, this should galvanize people to be even more rory fans That the sweets gonna be so much sweeter with this bitter, but but I mean at the end of the day It's it's sports, right? Like why don't we root we root to have fun. It's you know a tons and tons of tons of tons of tons of tons of people including mr. Pooch love the New York Yankees I guess what I take great joy when the Yankees blow a three o'lead and lose the ALCS to the Red Sox. It's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I'm allowed to enjoy that, right? That's where I'm at. That's where I'm at. I know, no, I'm fine with that. I don't need you to be team Rory. I guess what I'm curious about is what is it about Rory that doesn't make you want to root for? It's not Rory. It's not. want to do it? It's not Rory.
Starting point is 00:30:25 It's not. It's not everybody else. It's not Rory. You're basically like, it's a great guy. I just am not, it just, you know, I, he just doesn't do it for me on a level of like, that's, God, that's my guy from a golfing sense. And that's the difference, Randy. If you're going to let the reactions of others dictate who you're rooting for, that's
Starting point is 00:30:43 where I can't follow you. Right. Rory's the fucking guy, irrespective of how, like, overblown the Rory love is, which I get where you're coming from. It's, I feel like this is a, the, the person for me for that is speed. And, and to me, it's always come down to, I mean, why was I a Echelson fan? Was the way he played, right? It was cavalier. It was, you know, it was some extremely stupid shit it was frustrating
Starting point is 00:31:07 made the winds great and and so in this generation that the person that comes close to that is Jordan speed and obviously he hasn't been super relevant the last couple years but I've just never been a huge fan of like Rory the golfery he hasn't captivated me okay now he does for other people and that's great but golf is so much more fun when we can have these factions and when we can, you know, shit on each other. I'm trying to shit happen. I'm with you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I think also like Roy's one of my top five favorite players. No one rides harder for anything. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no in that top five also is cam dj scottie shetler at least shetler fleetwood maddie shut up uh... brisket for a while so many people came up with a lot of it yeah love it's coming uh... you know guys so many people came at me for the whole like cam's better at golf than rory thing and it's like
Starting point is 00:32:00 this today was what i was talking about like under the gun in the moment like like, who am I betting on to hit a wedge shot from 130 yards out? I'm betting on Cam in that moment. Like, I just really... Golf is more than hitting a wedge from 130 yards. No, I know, but like, Rory has more of those than anybody because he hasn't built an advantage
Starting point is 00:32:20 with his driver and everything. And that's what gets me about him is like, like, the him is like, like the guy, like I'm rooting for him and he's becoming almost an underdog character at this point because he's so freaking good and he can't get it done in the big moments. The guy isn't one of majoring,
Starting point is 00:32:34 what, eight years, nine years? Eight full years. Eight full years. It's like, come on man, like you're, you're supposed to be a generational talent. You are the needle. How are we not? Can we acknowledge or who will sign the petition with me
Starting point is 00:32:47 that this major season has been different than all of the previous seasons since he's won, since he's last one. Fuck yeah, I'll start like John Hank. And I know, I think this is gonna be the biggest one on that document. That's the progress. That doesn't mean anything to some people.
Starting point is 00:32:59 I'm sure, but this one was different. He even said so in his post-round, but at a extremely vulnerable moment was like, he saw the positive in this and he's like, I know I'm not going to the door. I missed a great opportunity. Like, I, I, there's something to that. I have more hope for him.
Starting point is 00:33:14 I, I, again, I've said this many times. I got whenever I, whenever he makes his comeback win, I'm gonna miss it. I might have to resend that, right? Because now I feel more bullish on his opportunity and on his ability to close one of these in the future that I did part of. I'm throwing all my nuggies for the masters on Rory and JT.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Those two. I'll do it right now. I'll throw all my nuggies that you will not throw all your nuggies on that by the time it comes around to it. I'll do it. I'll lock it in right now. Okay. Well, I'm not because I'm a man.
Starting point is 00:33:45 I think, I think, Sully, I think he had a great year at the majors and also I think it was disappointing. I think he could give both of those things. For sure. There's a high bar. I get that. Now, I put the thing that you said, Randy, that's interesting to me is it's almost the collective,
Starting point is 00:33:58 the fact that Rory's so popular in a way, it turns you off. Or you just want to feel it for yourself and you don't want to be told like, you should root for this guy because he's the guy. Well, no, it starts with like I've just never felt that way about him But then you just get an onslaught of this this rory You know, I mean idle worship it seems like and this week was just felt like the culmination So yes that that of course is gonna kind of turn me more against it. But the genesis is like, he's just never done it for me from a golfing perspective.
Starting point is 00:34:30 That's fair. Which what's so funny about the take, Rani? And I don't know that I really thought about it all that much until you kind of put it that way. Is I root for him so much more because of the off the course stuff than I do the on the course stuff. I'm with you that like his golf is not, not what fires me up or inspires me all that much.
Starting point is 00:34:46 I think there's plenty of golfers that are more fun to watch for sure. I'm and call that like cheesy or corny or whatever. I'm rooting for him exclusively, probably in the world of pro golf. I can't think of anybody else that I root for because I'm like, man, that guy fucking rules and I want good things for him.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Like it has nothing to do with. Which I will say. I will say. I his wedges are horrible. He doesn't make big puts in the moment. He doesn't do, like, I agree with you there. I would weigh rather from a purely aesthetic, you know, hold, as a judge holding up a number, watching a golf tournament,
Starting point is 00:35:17 would weigh rather watch Cam Smith, would weigh rather watch Jordan's speech, would weigh rather watch Fleetwood, probably. But just purely as a, like, I want that guy to have good things and I hope he wins, or is he the only guy in that category? So that's an interesting disconnect. I never...
Starting point is 00:35:32 Well, and I get that, and I think that makes sense for you. I feel like I've never really looked at that way, and I want to be very clear. Rory seems like a genuinely great guy. And somebody I would love to have a beer with and talk about a lot of non golf stuff with. So I guess like my poking and rattling him is purely just like because it's golf, man, it's sports.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Like that's, it should be a skate from, you know, all the shit that's going on everywhere else. Can we get it back to like, I'd like to talk about with Rory like his round specifically and just kind of where did he not put his foot on the gas enough what happened. What can I say for this actually go ahead. 18 holes 18 two puts is probably going to get you the result that we are looking at here. And I just a clip before we get on the specifics on the specifics of that.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I also just want to acknowledge like that this is the first time in a long time that Rory has had to hit 270 shots under first place championship pressure, right? The knock on him has been like, oh, when he gets down the leaderboard, he makes the back door top 10 in majors, blah, blah, blah. Oh, that's like the cherry on top or that's like the sweetener of like, hey, look, you finished T four. This is a different, he has not been in this position and under this much winning pressure in a major in eight years. It hasn't happened. And is that more damning that he didn't get it done? No, I think it's just like, I don't want it out there
Starting point is 00:36:55 and you guys are not saying this, but I would get frustrated at the narrative. It's like, he, this is what he always does when he's in contention. It's like, no, dude, he hasn't even gotten to this close like in a long long time. Like you said earlier, this is a very starkly different year for Rory and we're on the verge of some great golf, I think,
Starting point is 00:37:11 in 2023. Rory at LACC or Oak Hill. I mean, shit, like his wife's from Rochester, right? Could be. Like, she's from upstate New York. Like, that's a home, like, we're gonna get the home Rory. That's a home like we're going to get the whole Rory. That's a home game in law. Second home.
Starting point is 00:37:28 The models have never, yeah, the models are not built. We, and then he's just the mom. He's won in a hoi lake before. Yep. So I mean, like next year could be historic year for Rory. He's probably going to win a gasta. And I'm here for. I'm all here.
Starting point is 00:37:42 No, no, no, this is where I got the early game. Tee see, you are such a fucking fence center. It's unbelievable. I'm not I made my bed this week But also like I'm I'm bullish on Rory for the future. I just Like we're still working out a few of the kinks in the 4.0 or the XP or whatever. Well listen I just I'm just happy. I'm on the I'm on the wagon. I've been on the wagon I'll stay on the wagon. I'm here to get hurt and that's okay with me DJ. I just want to go back I think what you just said about Rory was awesome and I I co-sign like Kind of rooting for him as a human is is
Starting point is 00:38:17 Well, that's awesome too. You know, he had the perfect round our version of it. No doubles No lost balls and no three-p plus. I mean, he played the perfect round. He didn't gag it, Randy. That's perfect. Round of golf. Come on. It was a semi. It was gag adjacent. I think I said this earlier as a guy. If he goes out and he takes care of nine, takes care of 12, takes care of 14, then he's and then somebody's going to have to go in seven under in the last 13 holes to time. Two of those things happen. He, and I also said that he doesn't have, if he makes no mistakes, he made no mistakes. He, uh, and came to me, shot seven under.
Starting point is 00:38:55 He didn't make no mistakes. I met bogies. I met bogies. I met bogies. Like 14, like 14 mistakes, leaving that included in the, if he gets 14 and he gets 18, but like, but it's almost like that's assumed when you were the tweet like that, right? I'm not saying it also not going backwards. Well, I wasn't like, yeah, I know what you're saying. It was a mistake, but not like on the card mistake. And I would say you're, so you're arguing that par is relevant. I was going to say this is an interesting.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Yes. This is Sean. Very, very good thought because that's what I was thinking. I think he made a lot of like half shot mistakes. Yes, sure. Right. He didn't make any bogies, but he made a lot of like, fuck man, we got it. We had to birdie 12. Fuck man, we had to. Right. God, how like what are you doing? We had to birdie nine. What's going on? It's like, put on nine for me was the one at any point.
Starting point is 00:39:40 But Victor, Victor was crashing. Number nine was to me. He missed what? That was like an eight footer for birdie after a good chip. And it was like, oh man, that one felt like, you know, I felt like the music playing for me on strapped a little bit. Like, you know, oh boy, dude, we gotta get that one. And then, but this is where the old course is interesting because it's like when you really gotta get it,
Starting point is 00:40:02 how much more interesting it is when, like, oh, you hit it to 12 feet instead of eight feet, it's like, oh, guys get it, how much more interesting it is when, oh you hit it to 12 feet instead of eight feet, it's like, oh guys, they're just still hard to make. He just got dink, he dinked and dunked himself in the wrong direction in terms of like, just leaving it right there on 12 instead of not gonna dead type.
Starting point is 00:40:17 But I wanna give him, I don't know, I'm paying a flame for this, but I felt like every put that he rolled on the back nine was going to go in. Like the putts, they were great putts, like the putt on 16 and 17, they were like, oh my god, those should go in, that was a great putt. They were good putts. If they were great putts, they would have gone.
Starting point is 00:40:35 I know, they were good putts. It wasn't like he lost it, it wasn't like he was hitting shitty putts. Like they were putting from that distance. That's a thing, that's a thing. But he didn't have a... It's such a coin flip or jump ball that like when you hit it closer than that, you your odds obviously. That's where his his ball striking was like be like that. I'm more worried about his ball striking today and his Navigating the course than I am is putting honestly I mean I lost a stroke point 1.25 on the greens, but he was not hitting it
Starting point is 00:41:00 close enough. That's that's the thing. It was like and putting too much pressure on the putter. You say navigating the course. Does it come back to navigating the course? Because it seemed like he was in mostly good spots off the tee. The one up the left on... Well, just like... Kind of a weird spot up the left on the back nine there on the 13 or 14. But like, like navigating the course
Starting point is 00:41:22 is different from just not executing on that. Four spot on 15. He was in the in the heather. And like, like I'll be against a little math. Yeah. Yeah. I was saying like 14, just like not getting it past the pin on 14 so you can, you can put back to that pin and just ending up in a couple of different spots that were like, I
Starting point is 00:41:39 even, you know, on 12, like getting, you know, not getting up to the front of that camps with got it onto the front of that green and was able to to put it. And Rory had to pitch up to that top and that was like, can they birdie and Rory did not like those little teeny point one point two stroke skein shots just added up to shooting 70 today. And how about that put on 13 coming up? It was like a 60 footer two roll short, you know, like he just didn't have like a get out of Joe free long putt that got him back like no big momentser, two rolls short. You know, like he just didn't have like a get out of jail free long putt
Starting point is 00:42:06 that got him back like no big moments, no big moment today. And that was, that was really hard to watch for me. Very difficult. So, so, so, so, did you guys read the, uh, I, I, I forget, I saw it in a tweet from Garrett Morrison from the Friday, but I guess John Wood was texting Tiger about what his, what his reaction to today would have been. And he basically spelled out kind of exactly what Rory did. And the whole like, well, he actually got people by two golfers is so fucking stupid
Starting point is 00:42:30 because obviously he was trying to hold that wedge on 18. If you had to get that up and down, that's a very different story. So I'm putting Rory historically at 19 under not 18. Yeah, it tasted Randy. If that was basically what Tiger said, right? Was like, you go out, if you shoot 1900, you win the golf tournament, which I think just underscores how freakish what Cam did was. You know, so like, yes, I want to.
Starting point is 00:42:51 You gotta take care of nine, and you gotta take care of, you know, the par fives. You gotta take care of the short fours and all that. And that's what Rory, like, you know, while Cam's doing that, starting on 10, Rory's making par on nine. And he, yeah, and he turned over in birdie 10 at least, but it was, I didn't like 19 to start the day. while cams doing that starting on 10 rory's making par on nine. And he yeah, and he turned over and birdie 10 at least, but it was I didn't like 19 to start the day.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I thought you needed to shoot 68. I thought it was a race to 20. I thought hovelin was going to be more involved in that. That's why I thought, but that was what would say. He said, Hey, like it's a, it's a clean. It's a boring 68. It's 70. You need the 69.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I just did not like that. I thought if he got it to 68 eight, it was gonna really mix. I think Cam's chase looks a little different. If Rory has a few more birdies there in that early part, I think. If Rory birdies nine, it's totally different. If Rory makes the putt on three, I mean, he missed what?
Starting point is 00:43:35 A six footer on three. That was where it was like, that's a confidence builder of like, you know what, today's a little bit different. Today's gonna be my day. Like, I'm gonna cruise to this thing. And he misses the put on three. And it's like, man, all bets are off.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Like, that's a make up. That's a put that 80% of the time you should make. God, shout out to the horrible, horrible NTT data for the Open Championship. It says he made a 37 footer for par. Oh, number three. They just, God, they just got a date approach to two yards. They cannot, they could not figure out the data of
Starting point is 00:44:10 the open chain. I will say this to for me to tie a bow on my on how I feel about Rory, I thought it was it was devastating. Randy, I thought we found a little bit of community. I know where you stand. I like that moving forward in the next year. And I thought it was this year was progress for Roy. Like it feels like he is awakened from a deep coma this year. And I'm excited for, you know, the next two, three, four years while he's still kind of in his prime. I think he can do some real damage. So I also think like he didn't do all he needed to do for sure. But how unlikely it was that somebody was going to shoot a back nine. Like the only guy that he needed to worry about shooting a back nine 30 shot a back nine 30 like that was what you're gonna do.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Yeah, yeah, ready, ready, he came out of a coma, but he's just to learn how to walk and you know, he's got. He's got one out of eat like it's not just gonna happen, right? He's been he's been slumbering for so long. I do think I think he's's in a really good head space. Like there's been growth and it's kind of like, hey, I think he cared too much, probably in 2018, 2019. He was pressing too hard. And he's cared too little in the past at times. And I think now it's like, I feel like Rory's
Starting point is 00:45:22 a very interesting human case study for golf of like, how do you find that work life balance a little bit when you have this exceptional gift of talent? And, you know, like, how do you not fritter that away by not caring too much about it, but by not caring enough about it? I think he's getting there. I also don't want to, I don't want to change this conversation, but it is super relevant that we have no idea what's going to happen in the world of professional golf over the next six months. And that brings me to the quote. I don't know if you guys have
Starting point is 00:45:54 been following on Twitter. Cam was asked about live in his press conference said quote. I just won the British Open. You're asking me about that. I think that's pretty not that good to grammar. I don't know, mate, my team around me worries about all that stuff. I'm just here to wing golf tournaments. I'm, guys, I'm not a politician. That is not a full-throated, I support the PJ tour. I, I, I don't want to talk about this. I don't want to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:46:21 But I want to point out that the dude now has a exemption into the British open essentially for life until he's 60 and he's exempted into all the majors for the next five years. And he's the reigning players champion. And he's the reigning players champion. So the OWGR stuff doesn't really matter for the next five years. And I just, I just want to prepare people, just want to prepare people for what could happen this week. If Cam announces he's going over there.
Starting point is 00:46:45 I would say his price just quadrupled. If he had nerdy signed. Yeah, nerdy signed. Good call. If he hadn't. Yeah, Uncle Bud team was. Hopefully he didn't already signed the dotted line. Look out.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Not only like, that's obviously like a front for something, but what a also horrific thing. Like I don't decide my future in professional golf. My team decides whether I'm gonna take like, Saudi money or if I'm gonna play on the PGA tour. Like, come on, dude. Fuck me. Yeah, that's this plaza world tonight building. I don't like that. But we can talk live stuff,
Starting point is 00:47:17 but I did wanna just throw this out there. There's a real case that Cam Young could have won today. Yes, big time. Let's talk about that. 100% about live. Yes. And when he talked about a lot of land, it's amazing. Some of you know, bogging nine missing the short birdie put on 15. Like he honestly, he should kind of not be kicking himself because I think he played really well, but man, he had a great look at this today. I mean, he shot 65, Randy. He just, he just, what do I mean? He is, I mean, a bit of a booey, a bit of a rom.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Like, he doesn't go away. He makes some, has some, some squirrely putt sometimes. Like, he de-greened himself yesterday, you know, like, he just does some things for like, oh, shit, that's not good. And then he bounces back and, and sinks a massive 12 footer. Like, he is so calm. All like he, I can't think of another golfer that has such a dynamic game. Like saw and I were talking about it yesterday, like he's like a five tool player, like hitting the ball so far and then like fighting a wedge
Starting point is 00:48:19 into 17 into the road hole. Like he's got all the tools and he's just very dynamic from a golf standpoint, but then very not dynamic from like a off this is kind of a lazy take because of the logo on his sleeve, but he just reminds me of every baseball player I've ever met. He's like he's like marked to show. I don't know, man, I'm just you know, just here to just here to make plays, man. Well, I got a question for all you guys. It's like, well, you're a superstar like freak of nature. Can you please just like shed a little bit of light on how you just hit, you know, 52 home runs. I was I was trying to come up with a, uh, like a movie character, TV character that that that you would, you know, likened to came young.
Starting point is 00:49:01 The best I could do is gill foil from from Silicon Valley. Like a genius a lot of Silicon Valley. I don't know or I was also think a John Nash like a beautiful mind like I don't know you know he's just doing things and then he can't really explain it to you but you guys got anything else for me. I think you're not Tim Riggins a little bit.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Oh that's a good one that's actually pretty good man. I think nine that you're coward Riggins the drive on nine you know it's all you said it I mean like it's not nine doesn't look like anything and then you play it and you're pressing and trying trying to squeeze it up a certain Side and it turns into holy shit like how did that happen? It's a again, it's like a par three and a half at best It might even be lower than that and they put that pin on the left and there's just that one bunker there That just makes it super easy to not make a routine golf swing and sure and like it that those traps are just everywhere and like Dude 95 90 to 95% of the time you can fly by the the the challenge of the trap at the old course, right?
Starting point is 00:49:58 It's that one or two times Maybe around that are gonna catch you that make it interesting and make it like not full on the gas the whole time And yeah, that that swing I mean, it's you know, it's butterfly effect all that stuff But that one driver swing on nine may have cost him the open shape It's up on the green make and then you know, I don't know if that means he goes and shoots a 31 on the back nine as well But that a put him at 21 under and winning the open Yeah, I thought losing losing by one on a day, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, stupid shit on 13 yesterday. Kim Young, you know, puts it off the green. You know, 16.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Yeah, and basically like, like these guys kind of, like didn't play their sharpest golf, didn't play a complete game, and they still beat you. And with Rory, it's like, dude, like you gotta, you gotta push your chips in a little bit more. You gotta, you gotta go for the jugular. Yeah, like you gotta, you gotta try to win it. You can't just not try to lose it.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Well, I felt like you did that on 17. You just didn't make the punch. It was too late though. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. I mean, you're right on, you're spot on the, what you said about 14. Like you can't miss short there, period.
Starting point is 00:51:18 You know, you got to, they got to do a better job. A lot of people in the comments saying that Cam Young might be the new DJ. T.C. would you like to comment on that? I could see that a little bit, you know. I also wanna shout out the guy who very aptly correctly pointed out Tim Riggins, Gil Fowell, and John Nash are very, very,
Starting point is 00:51:37 good at talking to you. Hans, we're workshopping here. Hans, Bovey, come on, I'm your guy, all right? We're working some takes. This is the process here. Biggest, man. We're trying to make it happen, okay? Guys, hand up.
Starting point is 00:51:51 There was a wind switch today that it was in the models that the onsite meteorologist had. It was not on the windy app. Wow, try and set. Can't do it. 70 bucks a month for that, that's unbelievable. No, no, I pay 70 bucks a month for the app. I don't pay 70 bucks a month or a year.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Oh, okay. So I was joking. Oh, shit. For the models, okay. The models are to blame, not the app. So what you pay for the app or you pay for the models that you add to the app. Pay for the app and then it,
Starting point is 00:52:19 it brings the models into the app ecosystem. Okay. Vic, Vic, we need to talk about Vic before we go anywhere else. That's suck. The NLU Wags were, they just, they, they're, he's so cute though. That's all I wish that wouldn't have, that's a bummer for, for, for Vic, you know, it's this makes way more sense than the previous three days did. He has no top 10 sense of players like this, this was, he was, I don't know how he did it the first three days,
Starting point is 00:52:45 but I am not, not surprised to see him be the one to go back. It felt a little bit like cams around yesterday, except for with, instead of the putter with cam, it was the driver with Vic, where he's missing fairways by like three feet, and he's in bad lies. And it's just like things clearly aren't going his way, but then at no point did he do anything to make it feel like, you know, turn the tide at all.
Starting point is 00:53:11 He lost strokes off the tee approaching and on the green. It's just a bad stuff. That's tough. It's not going to get it done. I would say I find, I find Vic easy to root for that. Yes. Right? I, of course.
Starting point is 00:53:24 So that's, that's a bummer. But, uh, but also in the, you know, in the grand scheme of things, I mean, it's all you hit on it. This is his first top 10 in a major. You don't, not very many people are speak. What does not simply walk into Mordor? You don't, you don't. You know, you got to, you got to chip away at it, man.
Starting point is 00:53:40 And this is, this is another step forward. So in the, when Victor Holland inevitably wins a major in the future, this is, this is another step forward. So when Victor Holland inevitably wins a major in the future, this is another step on the way. Very cool. The first Oklahoma State cowboy to almost win a major since since Ricky almost won those majors. You should know. You almost run her up at the US Open Randy.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Who is that? Matthew Wolf was runner up at the US Open two years ago. I'll have to look into that. Okay. To be fair, I forgot about that. Guys, I also forgot I'm going to go back on my master's take. Oh, I have no idea. No, it's locked in.
Starting point is 00:54:13 No, it's locked. I have no idea. Randy, I have to touch the nummies of speed. I have to throw some nummies on speed. That's preordained. Well, allow that. I have to do that. Otherwise, some comments coming in people saying that uh...
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Starting point is 00:55:27 Anybody been using their Rapsoto's getting ready for tourist sauce? How's the game? I might go out tonight, actually. Yeah. I have been in it for a couple of weeks. We're going to tourist sauce this week, fly out Thursday.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Our upgrades are looking tenuous at this point. We may have to change our flights, but I'm gonna go practice. Liv has cost me a lot in terms of gray hair and also playing golf. I've not been playing much of any golf. My handicap is pretty high though. I'm just gonna warn you guys.
Starting point is 00:55:56 What are you right now? Zero point six. What are you? Two point six. I think I'm two point eight. Randy, what are you? Bagger. I'm right for the pickings at a 7.5.
Starting point is 00:56:08 DJ, DJ. Fresh meat. I'm right around that territory as well. I have almost zero gold. I got a blueish. One little practice round before we hop on the plane, a little cold analysis in place at the beginning of the walk. I saw that.
Starting point is 00:56:21 I saw that on your calendar. Yeah, that should be enjoyable. But that's a little in blue mound as well this week. That'll be telling. That'll be telling. I saw that. I saw that on your calendar. Yeah, that should be enjoyable. But that should land in Blue Mountain as well this week. That'll be telling. That'll be telling. I'm going to get my rap soda out. I'm going to do my work on the range and let the chips fall where they may.
Starting point is 00:56:34 I love it. We're all coming in a torus sauce. Like very unprepared. Very much on autopilot. It could be so feel- You're all going to come in. There's only a couple of people. We're all going to come in as the cat, you know?
Starting point is 00:56:45 Yeah, we've been playing a little bit, but we're not really competitively, like I don't know. I just don't know how many of these competitively I have left. Yeah, I know, it's kind of a rubber. Dej is kind of, Dej might have a massive advantage though, our first course,
Starting point is 00:56:59 although it doesn't count for qualifying, is a hairy cult course. Wow, so I'll be getting the no pat out at at MCC this week. Yeah. Maybe it was this is just my personal perspective being devastated. But the, uh, you know, trophy ceremony, but a little subdued felt like, uh, the crowds were, they were, they were obviously cordial, but it didn't feel like anybody was, was rockus out there at the trophy ceremony.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Randy, what do you think? It's not like there might as a shrieker. I really feel like a little bit old. Yeah. There was something going on that they were cheering for that they were not showing on TV. So I didn't see any reports of it, but. I was, no, when DJ said we're going live
Starting point is 00:57:37 after the trophy ceremony, I was like, oh my God, I thought they would just cancel it. I didn't know there was going to be a trophy ceremony. Which is a great joke, big. That's good stuff. You know, listen, 95% of the people rooting for Rory, yeah, it's crazy. They didn't really like just go balls to the wall
Starting point is 00:57:55 in the trophy ceremony. Well, it's funny when I feel like people want to. I don't know what Neil was trying to say. No, no, I guess what I'm saying is you, a lot of sporting events, it's like by the back pass and Randy's not even paying attention. Yeah, I hit what I'm saying is you a lot of sportiness is like by the back pass and read he's not even paid attention. Yeah, I hit him in the dome. Tough.
Starting point is 00:58:09 It's funny when just hit the layup, man. I don't throw it to me. You're right under the mask. Yeah. I was trying to flash a little bit. Come on. Wait, Alback announced the blooming onion by one get one. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:23 In honor of Cam. Don't fall for the comments, TC. Anthony is a stud. I was gonna say, like all weekend, it was the crowds really showed their, you know, they were partial to Rory. And I feel like sometimes you expect that to happen or you, but I think it felt like this was one of the few times it just every at every stop. It was like, oh my God, the whole place is written for one person. Like that doesn't, we haven't seen that, I guess,
Starting point is 00:58:52 since the cat, since Bellwrecks. It was, in talking it all through it was maybe feel a lot better about today, honestly. It was pretty, pretty bummed. When he got beat by Brooks. Oh, like somebody else wins. Yeah, yeah, when somebody else wins, but like everybody in the building
Starting point is 00:59:06 wants one person to win and then somebody comes and just balls out and steals it, like this will it. This, well, no, but it felt like the PGA with Tiger. Right, I'm in person. I'm so thankful, should we be that we haven't had a Danny Willett or like there's not been a bad major winner in like half a decade. It's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah Yeah, I know we keep saying this in these shows,
Starting point is 00:59:29 but it's like Gary Woodland is like the the last like person on the line and Gary Woodland's like a pretty respectable very very solid player. So it's it's it's crazy man, which I again always always top always top of mind during these major recaptures continues to show the line between PJ tour setups and major championship setups. And the fact that big dicks only at the majors continues to be a, uh, an undefeated trend. It's just, I don't know. I think the big man would like a word. I mean, sure.
Starting point is 01:00:03 I, I will say I think people might get on you for the Danny Willett blast right there. He stinks. He stunk, he stinks. I know, but if you're going to say Gary Woodland's respectable, you got to say Danny Willett is too. Where do you pick Woodland this week? Did not. Come on.
Starting point is 01:00:19 I did. Woodland was like top 15 in the world, or I will it was like top 15 in the world. Yeah, but he could have been labeled a manipulator. Yes, well, he was a really good player there for a while It would and I don't blame Danny Willet for what happened that was very much a known goal by our beautiful boy It was I will say sincerely I Said this on Twitter and I'm obviously gutted about the Rory thing But I'm not letting that color. I think this was truly one of the best tournaments I've ever watched my whole life. I think we need to throw it to Randy because Randy, like, what's your counter to that?
Starting point is 01:00:52 Like, how are you going to try to get on? The Friday egg had a tweet early in Rory's round. Like the first six holes he hit four wedges and a putter into them. But the putter was 50 yards. And the first six holes, he was one under on those holes. So I'll just say that. Yeah, but it's not like anybody was hitting like four and five irons. It was just, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:13 hit a wedge into the greens and see how close you can get it. And if you make a putter or not, I think 17 was the best hole. It's like the only true difficult hole out there, unless you happen to get a bad bounce. I think the wind being down took away a lot of like the only true difficult hole out there, unless you happen to get a bad bounce. I think the wind being down took away a lot of like the landmine pot bunkers in the fairways that took out a lot of
Starting point is 01:01:33 suspense and a lot of t-shots. It was a great leaderboard. It was the last three holes, four holes were an exciting finish, but from just like a pure test of like who can hit the most difficult shots and all of that stuff, I found it lacking compared to other majors. Listen, I'm not going to tell you how to feel, but it was there are wedge contests and there are contests like this where guys are hitting wedges and it is, those are very different things. I know that sounds stupid, but. That makes sense.
Starting point is 01:02:05 It's not, this was not the, you know, AMX or something like that. It was a very, very different unique, one of a kind type of wedge contest, which any course in Scotland, like looking at, you know, I don't know, my skis here, I'm sure, agronomy wise, but looking at that golf course, I would guess most, you know, golf courses in the 100 mile radius probably look very similar, right? And they're all going to be wedge contests when
Starting point is 01:02:31 it's that firm. And I thought it was just so cool how they tuck the pins. And, Randy, I'm not going to tell you how to feel. I just violently disagree. And also, which is fine. It's a couple of things to that, Randy. I think one, we were in agreement that a rollback golf ball makes its golf tournament look incredibly different than what we just witnessed is fine. It's a couple of things to that, Randy. I think one we were in agreement that a rollback golf ball makes this golf tournament look incredibly different than what we just witnessed as one. To some wind where they got some true into the wind holes where cat was hit in six iron into number 10 and the practice round and Roy's easily driving it today
Starting point is 01:03:00 that drives a big difference. And also to that, DJ just to add onto that, like, Karnusty can look like this and not play like this way. It does not have the same humps and bumps, the same chess pieces to figure out. There's not gonna be guys playing up other fairways and you know, you're studying where the pin is
Starting point is 01:03:18 and all of the things that go into, all right, well now I have to leave my ball here because of this knob and blah, blah, blah, blah, all the things that get unlocked with the firmness of this place, it does still provide the most special test. I'm in agreement, there's a hole in this golf course of like mid-iron tests,
Starting point is 01:03:32 it's like the least amount of mid-iron's we'll see on display in any major. But that's because of the ball. That's more about the ball than it is a golf course. They've linked into it plenty. I don't. And the wind, and the wind. Yeah, I don't.
Starting point is 01:03:44 There's not many golf courses that are a mid-iron test anymore. And and knowing to that that there's, you know, just like like Randy, you're all about questions, right? Like what questions is the golf course asking? I think it asks a lot of like weird off the wall, interesting questions all day today, all day yesterday. Shit that you can't practice for. It's like you got to dig it out of your soul, you got to dig it out of your, you know, just like your resume a little bit of like, you know what, I hit this shot six years ago at Royal Melbourne.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Like, I, it's just, there's weird shit. I'm bouncing it off of that thing. I'm hitting 120 foot lag put put up and over six different slopes. Which has never been any better. And like this was the worst conditions we put, like other than it being soft and slow, this was probably like the worst case scenario. Lightest wind.
Starting point is 01:04:40 And the tournament's still delivered. Yeah, I was gonna say too, that everything you're describing, that's also never been like Rory's forte as a professional. Like all of those, like balancing all of those little elements and you know, controlling where your ball stops and all of that has not, that's why he didn't jump off the page to me going into this championship was just like,
Starting point is 01:04:58 dude, this is gonna ask a, you know, a weirder question than a lot of the other, you know, questions that you've gotten on the majors that you have won. Well, I mean, you guys are going to like yell at me, but it was also like the most turned down. And I think that's why he did well. It was like the most benign it could have been. Yeah, he's certainly not a mother.
Starting point is 01:05:17 What is, you know, his record at the old course is pretty, not from a win standpoint, but like a scoring standpoint. Yeah, it's soft and slow last time they had it. Again, I think it should be the Eddie. Like, we're not going to hold this tournament until the conditions are right. I'm here for that. Just give it a three week window. We can't go to the three M this week.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Like, nobody, nobody's fucking plan in the three. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like everybody, if everybody hangs out, don't go to the, don't go to the Renaissance club. Yeah. Let's just, everybody just hang out here for three weeks. Celebrate. Let you know the night before if we're just everybody just hang out here for three weeks. Celebration. Or let you know the night before if we're going tomorrow,
Starting point is 01:05:48 based on TC's windy app. TC will call it if we're gonna go. Randy, I have a question for you. What is your favorite major in recent memory? Like from a scoring core set up standpoint. Like what are you looking for? I'm just looking for guys to be visibly frustrated and upset.
Starting point is 01:06:12 I'm excited. I want, yeah, I mean Chinnacock, usually the US Open gets the closest, I've really grown to like that tournament. The Masters is always good, because you can get it, you know, a little bit. I mean, the British opens have been, I go back to like, Mirrorfield was really good. But yeah, I think the, I actually really liked the PJ Sutheran Hills this year. I thought was,
Starting point is 01:06:39 was by and large a great test. So I don't you know, I'm my table and that one. What? I have to check the different to buy in large. Right. I think they could have pushed a little bit more, but I think saying I want to be very clear. St. Andrews, the whole course, is like, it's world class. It's phenomenal golf course for for average, Joe's and for everybody that goes and plays it. It's not me saying it for average Joe's and for everybody that goes and plays it. It's not me saying it's like not my favorite British open venue is not a reflection on like what I think of the course. It's more of a reflection on like where I think the modern game is. And I,
Starting point is 01:07:17 you know, that's just what it is. It's fair. It is fair. And I think I think there were all proponents of rolling it back. Roll it back. Roll it back and add spin. Cause I think it's, there's two very different conversations, right? Like you need to roll it back the right way as well. Sounds like we're ahead. Tommy. You know what, T.C. I think I'll apologize for Tommy. Thank you. I don't think I'm the ringleader of necessarily constantly giving you shit for the Tommy thing. I don't think I'm the ringleader that you think I am, but I will say you've been writing for him in another top five finish in a major championship. I will apologize for my role.
Starting point is 01:07:57 No, I'm the ringleader of that. Still, it hasn't won the U.S. still. I mean, for celebrating top five. And was under no pressure this week. It was under no pressure. Backdoor top five. I'm not gonna apologize for that. You can take a lot of trance takes and kind of write them
Starting point is 01:08:12 on like one of those transparent overhead projector things. And then his other takes and kind of slide them over each other and you'd see where the conflicts are. I think everything he's ever said about Rory. I test maybe. Sends to run counter to everything he's ever said about Fleetwood. I'm not treating it. I think it's the same thing with Fienal.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Like Fleetwood and House Fienal are the same guys. The worst wiring in the world. It's all just mangled and gnarled together. Somehow it works. It works. The lights start on. That's great. But I think you ever start getting the electrician
Starting point is 01:08:40 in there poking around. You're gonna break a lot of wires. You're gonna have a very expensive front. I'm not treating Tommy like Fleet. Like, problem. Now I'm not treating Tommy like, like, or like, I'm not treating Tommy like Rory. Like, they're two very different conversations. They're two very different trajectories, or expectations, all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:08:55 So, right top five. Yeah. I would love to. I would love to see him win a major TC. I'm ready for it. It's just, it's got, it's a bit of a wake me up when we get there. It's worth noting that Tommy was playing some pretty poor golf for a while there and is no longer he's back towards that like pretty strong player that he was in 2017 time period and now you know
Starting point is 01:09:15 also some of it like you know it hides some of the driver stuff for it hides some of the uh Neil Brian Harman. He's a tough customer. He says he's a zinger and say, man, he's a tough customer. He's always going to be around. He's so nervous. He can't spit man. Oh, got that dog at him. He shot 73 does first round. Shot 68, 68, 66.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Good for good for mega corp. Good for Brian Harman. Good, you know, shout out to, uh, shout out to Harmon. I think, you know, little people big world, I love it. Neil, that was an excellent impression. I think that one's got wheels. You like, you like my zinger? Oh man, he's in a world of, world of hurt there, man.
Starting point is 01:09:59 I really do. I want to shout out Bryson's weekend. Yeah. Very, very impressive stuff. I know he shout out Bryson's weekend. Very, very impressive stuff. I know he's still coming back from injury. I know we're living in a world where people don't enjoy Bryson being shouted out, but very deservedly so, man. It's coming in with no form and finishing top 10.
Starting point is 01:10:19 It's very impressive. Pretty fucked up. That DJ skips over DJ on the leaderboard, just like NBC did. I would say a lot of the same thing. I kind of said this yesterday that Dustin has gotten a complete pass for basically sticking his finger in each outlet that made the dissolution of the PGA
Starting point is 01:10:38 towards possible and being the conductor for that energy. Just completely, they're booing polter, who gives a fuck about polter? And Dustin's the guy that's like, no, he kind of made all that possible. Did you guys forget how that all went down? How basically everybody was out until they've reeled in one big fish
Starting point is 01:10:56 that kind of made it what it is. So for the first time I found myself just to kind of stick to my guns, pretty actively rooting against Dustin. Just, no thanks, take Dustin. Just no thanks. Take it away. Not interested. I struggle to get to that level of wanting to root against him.
Starting point is 01:11:11 I just feel like apathy toward the whole thing. It's been pretty apathetic towards him. And now there's no nothing to root. It's kind of an analogy for the whole thing. When it's Cam Smith and Hadecki and a few other guys playing in Thailand and late October, am I supposed to feel something? Am I supposed to get up for the crushers
Starting point is 01:11:34 or the majestics? No, like no. I'm just gonna watch some SEC football. Should we talk about the Hadecki thing? Is it time now? I mean, we've been pushing it off. Let's get to time now? I mean, we've been pushing it off. Let's get to the top 10. Okay, we've been pushing that off.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Because can't lay finished, can't lay shot 68. To the Bryson point though, I do not feel the same. Weirdly, Bryson is, is, Schrodinger's golfer. I, I, I, I, but I truly hate him as a person. There's nothing I like about him as a person, like nothing. He deserves everything that he gets as a person. Yet I find myself not rooting against some of the golf course. I just like I'm enthralled. I'm intrigued. I want to watch him play golf and I don't find myself like rooting for
Starting point is 01:12:15 his ball to go in the bunker. I think it's still very interesting when he plays in competes. And again, I think these majors are different than PGA Tor events like i don't uh... these guys have earned the right to be there and i don't feel like i'm rooting against them necessarily uh... in these bigger ships uh... what what is where does the uh... this the speed legion stand on uh... jordan speed here first of the top eight of the law still stands on the track thank you tc ridiculous uh... where do you guys are how do you guys feel about can't or uh... spice finish here t eight uh... sixty eight today all the tracking accounts. Thank you, TC. It's ridiculous. Where do you guys, how do you guys feel about
Starting point is 01:12:45 or a speech finisher, T8, 68 today? It's terrifying. Where do we go from here? I mean, he, what I want to say is, Randy, I just want to, I want to get this on the record for next year.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Everything, I know your, your past history on speech, he's the one true golfer, he's the only guy. If you're going to hold Rory to a certain standard, you need to hold speed to that standard and speeds last couple years have looked a lot like the beginning of Rory's drought. Of course. So I just I want to be very very very very consistent. Randy strapping into the long haul. Yeah, eventually. I guess maybe you're
Starting point is 01:13:22 rooting for his style of play more than Rory's, which I think you made a good point about earlier, but it's starting to get a little tiny bit concerning some deeply uncompetitive finishes in big tournaments. Hey, men to that. And this would not try to argue otherwise. It sucks. And this was his best finish of the year at T.A. This was his only top 30 finish in a major at all this year. And it's still the putter. Like the dude was fourth and strokes gained T degree in this
Starting point is 01:13:49 week. And he was plus point two three overall in putting which which again, going to the cam thing doesn't last forever, man. Yep. Doesn't last forever that you just pour them in. Get them while you can get them while they're hot. I lost the edge. Deach. That's right. I mean, Cam, like I'm not betting the house on Cam to play well into his 40s. Like his game is good. It's like a supernova, right?
Starting point is 01:14:14 Who knows what kind of anti-aging stuff they're gonna have on the team's smash though or whatever when he's gonna be on it? That's true. I will say also Cam, 64 today, low round of the day, which Elk said that's kind of the drag your nuts on everybody. You have to have the 54 whole lead though.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Yeah. That's the Elkington 54 lead then shoot the lowest round of the day. But back on the speed thing, like I said, fourth and stroke skein T degree and it's been the putter in majors for a couple years now. I mean, he cost them so the 20. He should have won the Masters last year and he was like almost dead last and putting and he's got, he's got three top 10s. He was runner up last year at the open, which I think we I tend to forget about, but three top 10s in the last three full years in majors, four in the last four years. And, you know,
Starting point is 01:15:01 it's not, Rory was doing a lot better in major championships in that drought period that he's still in than Speed has done. I think Rory's floor is higher. It is. For sure. So it's not fully there and I do, I feel better that it's the putter. I do, like if he couldn't hit the ball,
Starting point is 01:15:16 I would be a lot more concerned. He feels more fixable. But he doesn't look like he, he just doesn't look like he is close to figuring it out to compete in majors with putter. I'm hoping we get a couple bad weather like I'd love to see Holi just blow and you know V. Wet and just blow and then Oak Hill like it could be snowing in May in New York next year and then LACC is gonna be awesome. I'm so stoked it should be firm and fast and all that. I think Max is going to win that one.
Starting point is 01:15:46 I'm pretty bummed that we are. If you say Rory is going to win that one. No, Max. Max is going to win it. I'm bummed. We got a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot of months before the golf that counts again starts. I like the new schedule though.
Starting point is 01:16:00 I like that this is it versus the PGA being glory's last shot. I feel like the new schedule though. I like that like this is it versus the PGA being glory's last shot. I feel like the British opened a better, like a better finale. I do too, but like no major in August, I don't know, it just really tightens up this major period and don't love it. It just also makes you feel how depressing
Starting point is 01:16:21 the FedEx couple of play offs is. It's gonna be a, it's socks here here. It's going to be a march of some kind. But listen, let's let's not lose sight. It's been a tremendous, tremendous major season. It has like that. And it's only going to get better. I won't say necessarily the major season is going to get better next year. But I'm with you to see I like the calendar, the way they're setting it up,
Starting point is 01:16:43 the way they're kind of like Hashtag elevating one event per month basically. I mean think about from from when Cam wanted Coppola to now is is a pretty freaking awesome run of pro golf and now I feel like they're Well, they're doing it not doing this intentionally, but as a golf fan I feel like you can kind of like check out and go play some golf for the next, you know, the next couple months. Go enjoy the rest of the summer. You don't need to, you know, not every week is kind of life or death. I think that's, uh, I think that's actually, yeah, I think that's actually kind of a good thing.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Just to be more specific, I'm very much not looking for, to, please, to the podcast. It's very much not looking forward to what we're getting back to, to covering in the golf world. Because again, it's going to get worse before it gets better in terms of I don't think it's going to get better. We agree, but it's going to get it's going to get worse than it has been if that press conference. It's almost immediately switches over. I think we're to the point where like, Jaymon and him probably need solutions job. I mean, we might want to unpack that in a full episode, I would say, but Neil, you want
Starting point is 01:17:44 to say anything about this? You're coming here, comments. I was disappointed. Zandered didn't do anything today that this points me, but just kind of Friday, Saturday, he just was a forgotten man. I, you know, I was disappointed in today, though, is Skyd Sheffler. Too over. Just, you know, the condor had to come down and take a break, I think, and, and, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:04 those long haul flights starting to get to them maybe. You got it. You guys see this? You guys hear about this? Scottie Shepler. Just keep laughing about the J-Lead outfit. So funny.
Starting point is 01:18:13 How about, you guys see this? How about some... You guys see this? You guys see this? Saddam today. He was hoovering up all sorts of early round coverage. Well, we don't technically know if it was hammer if it was a look alike. That's what I was saying. It's like TC and Cameron Young, you know. all sorts of early round coverage. Well, we don't technically know if it was hammer if it was a look alike.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Well said. It's like TC and Cameron Young, you know, I mean, I looked like a completely different guy out there. Who could do it? It's like it comes brother. I don't know. I was disappointed in Adam Scott today. Adam, I was expecting a little bit better. Were you though? I tried to split this in yesterday.
Starting point is 01:18:42 That's on UTC. Honestly, Randy of all the takes you've had on Friday You you just detonating Adam Scott. I'm with I'm kind of with you there like he was like he's an empty vessel He was 13 under going into 12 and then he put last six holes in in three old so so we would have played even he only would have lost by seven. You got a top 20. You guys can get out of here. Billy Ho, top 20. British Open. Shout out to Billy Ho. The fats, fats, and lift. And 500 today. That's good stuff. He's T-21. But close. Can I throw out somebody we gotta go a little far down?
Starting point is 01:19:21 Disappointing US Open, British Open for J u.s. open british open for jt yep i've been in the port what's going on with jt what's going on in utah a lot of people in the league asking this that's what i'm curious about uh... what's the good what's going on with jt yeah
Starting point is 01:19:38 ask yourself what could it be continues to have the weirdest major record i i i i was i was thinking that the two majors would would buy more time with What could it be? Continues to have the weirdest major record. I was thinking that the two majors would buy him a little more time with you guys, but it does not appear to be the case. This isn't just an opportunity to shit on him.
Starting point is 01:19:54 It's a legitimate, like, every time it seems like he's ready to really take off in like a certain self as the best player in the game right now. He just kind of goes away and it's disappointing. Yeah, now taking away the PGA win, yo, time me up. That was, that was world class. But yeah, Brandi's point stands of like, you got to, you know, consistency.
Starting point is 01:20:17 He's like a Monday qualifier guy. It's like, y'all show up and just ball out one week and then he just gets hot, I guess. I'm not, I'm not doing a bit here. I'm not making a joke. Everything you guys are saying here, again, just like look at how much fucking better Rory was than everybody this year.
Starting point is 01:20:32 Yes. He showed up every fucking week. And yes, I know he didn't get any wins, but dude, that's so hard to do and so unlikely and so like unbelievable. But that's where I get back to Rory of like, you got there and at some point, you can't play it safe. You gotta put your chips in.
Starting point is 01:20:49 I know, but he's just, he's a, you gotta go all in like over. It's a head thing, I think, with him a little bit. Like he's totally ahead. He's a, he's to, you know, he's to aware. To where I saw it, like the JT thing, like the reason we're bringing JT up right now after finishing What T 42 or T T 53 is because like like it's a compliment like you expect more out of them and all that and he played
Starting point is 01:21:15 Two or three practice rounds with cat I'm not that infected coolest whole like coolest course in the world with with all sorts of shop making that he loves shot like he's the best shot maker out there. And then yeah, I think he has, he has like a lot of shots. I wouldn't I don't know if he's the best shot maker out there. I think I think he wants to feel like he's the best shot maker. I would call him a shot maker. He is, but he's got some Maddox like he locates.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Yeah, but it takes a, you gotta do that very, very, very consistently to be the best shot maker out there I think I think he has all he can he can't throw them on command, but he can't throw all the pitches all the all the pieces were in place for him to play really freaking well this week. I just I think it's put him in my like biggest disappointment category, but it's also just worth being reasonable with JT when it comes to like he's not like a tremendous golf driver of the golf ball, right? He does not have like the rom rory that level, right? And he's not a tremendous putter. So like you're gonna have like he's a really good iron player. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:13 He's gonna have weeks where those things get hot, but like his, I don't know, he's not like he's not a supreme supreme talent. That's not really even a knock on. I think he gets a lot out of what like his physical skills are but I don't know it just it feels like I feel like ROM is doing less with more than like JT is yeah seem fair ROMs concerning what did he finish T34 34 yeah the butcher was just overwhelmed have you seen prices in this economy are you kidding me I gotta line out the door I can't get I can't cut the meat so I I can't, cut the meat. I have no labor.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Tough, tough year. Yeah. That's what I was gonna say. Labor forces down, gas prices are delivered. He's trying to do it all himself. He had it, yeah, he had a delivery operation going, but he can't run the van. It's tough.
Starting point is 01:22:58 I want to say something about the cat though. I've been kind of, I don't know, marinate and it take a little bit, especially with the JT stuff, and him playing practice rounds, and almost picking his guys that he's maybe mentoring or friends with, I feel like he, and I'm here for this. It's a long lines of the relatable cat take
Starting point is 01:23:15 that we had the other night. He's kind of becoming a Udonus Haslam, right? Like a coach, but still on the team. He's on the bench, he's playing in the tournament. I want that. Maybe a little bit, Ego Adala. Yeah, yes, where. He's on the bench, he's playing in the tournament. I want that. Maybe a little bit, Iguidala. Yeah, yes, where it's like, yo man, he is, I want him to be almost a steward of the game
Starting point is 01:23:31 and stay in the competition, even if he's not competing for as long as possible. So like, when we're talking about it, is he gonna show up at the old course in, you know, six, seven years? I got, I hope so. And even if he's not competitive, I don't care. I just love
Starting point is 01:23:45 having him around in the game and just almost coaching up these young bucks. So I feel like he does need to take a step out. And maybe this is also the young guys need to take a step towards him and get out of their comfort zone. He can't just focus on the same dudes fair enough like JT and like, you know, and I think like I think this is a great opportunity for Max to probably reach out to him and be like, hey man, I really enjoyed our time together the first two days at the British Open. Like, still I'm responding to my text from 2013
Starting point is 01:24:15 but practice right now. Yeah, I feel like, hey, we're on, you know, we're kind of on the same level or like, you know, on the same footing now a little bit as far as just placing the game from a like ongoing basis. Can I come out and play with you a few days or whatever like like impart some shit on me here where like I feel like I want Kat to share the wisdom. Yeah I feel E. Guadal might be a better like a veteran that's still because because E. Guadal is bounced around the league a little bit more whereas
Starting point is 01:24:41 Hazelms just been in Miami. And doesn't play much. But that player coach role, I would like to, I hope that he, I just want to have the cat around as long as possible. You know, even if it's a ceremonial cat, I'm almost at peace with that fact of life that may be coming down the pipe here, other than Augusta where he could probably compete
Starting point is 01:25:03 for the next 10 years. Did I read the chat correctly? It sounds like we got a potential guest maybe. We do. I sent him a little no. I said, hey, you know, if we need you to like we're just a little bit worried about you. Okay. A proof of life. There he is. Jamie, how are we, how are we doing, man? You're on mute, Jamie. You might be on mute. You're on mute, Jamie. You might be on mute. That pretty well sums it up by. No words. Is he crying? I'm gonna unmute you here, I think. Can you? Hello? What's up, mate? How are we doing?
Starting point is 01:25:34 No, no, no, no, no. Yes, I can't even work an iPhone. That's all you can do. I am. Where's your video? Can you turn your video on? There it is. Hello guys. I'm just leaving the TV, compiling the glamour of television. I don't know how well you can hear me, so apologies if my audio is terrible.
Starting point is 01:25:53 Sound great. Sound great. Sound horrible, but we sound great. I, uh, yeah, it's tough one to say. What can I say? I've missed the start of the podcast, obviously. So I imagine Randy with Glee is shitting from a great highs in Rory, but I feel I would imagine pretty similar to Sully and DJ in that I'm just, you know as bad as I feel I imagine we're actually feeling ten times worse. So it's just a tough one to take. It felt like for 64 holes it was his open. And then the pots just dried up, well the pots kind of dried up all day yesterday on today. And what can you do about a fella taking 30 strokes, the back nine,
Starting point is 01:26:39 the old course and the final round of an open. It's deserving champion. And the scar tissue for Rory will be cooking to deal with, but, you know, there we are. Hey, you know, of course, Rory feeling 10 times the disappointment that you're feeling and I'm feeling 10 times the disappointment that Rory's feeling, I'm sure we can all hold. And I got to go clean up the block party. So I got to, I got work to do too.
Starting point is 01:27:02 And I feel like shit. So there. Jamie, Jamie, we did a lot of birdies and bogies talk already, but curious what what the feeling on the ground was like with anything we miss in person today. What what what have you been getting eyes on? I don't really know how to answer that. Well, I followed you know what was I was roaring and Victor for 18 holes that. I was roaring a Victor for 18 holes today and just felt as I said to you when I spoke to you yesterday, there was an air and I know the sun's corny and cliched but there was an air of it was written in the stars, it was this sort of destiny that he was going to lift the clarinet jug at the home of golf at a particularly fractious and divisive time in the game.
Starting point is 01:27:45 And for 10 holes today, it was going along so nicely. And I was walking with a few of the other boys with like Porter and Andy and Smarten. And we were like, this is OK, this is happening. This is actually happening, you know. And just as he made that incredible like pot and tent, I have the tap in birdie. Up to my left, there was a huge chairs
Starting point is 01:28:04 that comes with pot dropped in and 11. And you were just thinking, I have the tap in birdie, up to my left, there was a huge cheers, I come Smith, pot dropped in an 11, and you were just thinking, I mean, if anybody starts to get a red hog putter, like come Smith, if come Smith starts to get that red hog putter that we know he can't get, he could actually do something here, and that proves to be the case,
Starting point is 01:28:18 but I mean, I don't know how Rory recovers from this one, it felt like it was there for the taking. It will surely feel like, and the one that got away, 18 greens in regulation in your final run. I know that greens are absolutely enormous here, but 18 greens in regulation in your final run, 36 pots.
Starting point is 01:28:37 I mean, it's a better pill to swallow. And I thought he was incredibly gracious and eloquent as he always is when he gave his interviews after the Ryan, but you know hats off Comesmith when I they're in God at the day 64 strokes. What can you say about that? Jamie do you think Rory like it seemed like he was in the right places
Starting point is 01:28:57 He just didn't push his chips in at any point and I know you know some of those are putz or whatever But it seems like he's a little bit far out of, you know, like he's putting from 20 feet instead of eight feet, so to 10 feet. And some, yeah, I mean, I did feel like you needed to push his chips all in. I felt like the big turning point was the part of nine, which probably was about eight or nine feet. I mean, I was really, really close to that. Sorry, I'm getting in the car and leaving the compound.
Starting point is 01:29:25 And it felt like if that part had dropped at that time, he'd have had to walk a two-stroke lead. And it just sort of sent that message to the cams up ahead. Okay, fuck right. Well, this is done, though. Whereas just giving him that little glimmer of hope, I felt like that was a massive sliding doors moment. And yeah, all the parts were kind of, all the chances he was giving himself from 2020-25
Starting point is 01:29:50 feet, but that's the difference that he's been absolutely incredible for him in these last few weeks. And he just could not go on to drop. I mean, he kind of played flawless golf to the greens, then the powder just went stone cold at exactly the wrong moment. So, it'll be a difficult one to get over because with everything that's going on in the moment and all the fucking shit show that's about to start against tomorrow, it just would have been the perfect exclamation point on what's been an incredible week at this incredible
Starting point is 01:30:19 iconic venue. But, Jamie, what was the feeling? That's not how golf works. It's just straight up not how golf works unfortunately. Yeah, it's just a constant punch in the nuts. Jamie, what was your feeling on three when he missed the put on three? We're fine. We're fine. Was it all right? You know, that that wouldn't go in, but it's still our day or was it oh, shit? Yeah, I at that stage I was thinking it was going to be a carbon coffee of yesterday when he had that slow start. He missed a few opportunities at the first four holes, but then he got his birdie unders belt at the fifth and then it kind of just ruled from there. So that's what I was feeling at that point. I mean, even when he birdied ten, I was like, okay,
Starting point is 01:30:59 this is absolutely fine now. And then what could you kind of legislate for a guy going birding five holes in the truck and you know if cam doesn't make that absolutely outrageous up and down from the wrong side of the road to a bunker then I'm pretty sure Rory goes up 18 makes his birding and we're into a playoff and who knows what happens at that stage but fine margins and it's a cruel game is a constant kick in the nuts and today's one of the biggest kick in the nuts I've ever had, that's for sure. And like everything was about to follow, and I made a conscious decision this week to not constantly talk about this increasingly bitter, bitch fight going on in men's professional goal for the moment, but it feels like at 6.52pm our time, the last putt drops and at 6.53 p.m. We're back talking about it again.
Starting point is 01:31:47 And if they managed to poach the champion golfer of the year and the European rider cop captain, I mean, all hell's going to break loose. That's the thing is, yeah, what are you? First of all, can you, there's people in the chat are concerned that you're driving, but they don't recognize it on the opposite side of the, yes, that's right. Yeah, there's a driver. that on the opposite side of the uh... yes that's right uh... here's a driver uh...
Starting point is 01:32:07 they have the opposite side jamey took the pledge jamey took the pledge shout out the speed so you're you know what are you hearing on this front that we we talked about cam smith's you know interview question that would answer earlier about uh... certainly sounding like he was deflecting and extents an article came out this morning uh... which we we got to talk about that one and then anything else you're hearing that uh... that's worthy of discussion
Starting point is 01:32:32 yeah well in the henry stenson from the man i had it from a very good authorities on the air i would trust uh... uh... a week ago and i've kind of been sitting on that information because i didn't want to yet to have all this and i've had a few conversations with other people this week about what do I do with this? Look, it looks like it's going to happen. There's no smoke without fire. And what a feather in the cap for Norman to get the European rider captain and proper two fingers to everyone. And he will be stripped of the
Starting point is 01:33:00 captain's seat and Europe will be left to look for a new captain and that's shit. And as regards getting the champion golf for the air, you know, all the chatter in the grind. And again, there's no smoke without fire. These rumors are rumors for a reason. Is that Smith, Leishman, Adam Scott, the three Aussies are all going to jump ship immediately after the president's cup. But, you know, how many times in recent months that we've seen these dramatic U-turns, and they're usually U-turns in the other direction, and it's usually the likes of Bryson or DJ saying no, no, no, I'm fine in the PJ tour and then a couple of weeks or a couple of months later they do a U-turn. But we could who knows we could see a reverse U-turn comesmith, could be sitting in his hotel room or his bed, whatever Housie's renting this week at the moment, looking at a
Starting point is 01:33:45 declarative jug and seeing Palmer Watson, Nicholas, Trevino, Fowl, though, by a Starrerson thinking, you know what, I want to actually have a legacy in this game and I want to be known as a multiple major champion, not some job shite who went and sold a sold a player exhibition golf. Well, that's tough though because he might have, he might have the access to majors now, because he just won once, so now the exemptions kick in, right?
Starting point is 01:34:11 We have even talked about it. That bit's true as well, but of course, you know, the unknown is what the majors decide between them and whether Martin slumber is in Fredwood, Ridley and Seth Warren's, Mike Wan will get Rhonda Table at some point over the next few weeks and say right we can't allow this God These guys in who knows if that's gonna be the case So you know as things stands of course he's gonna be exempt for another 32 open championships Into the others for a fair chunk of time as well, but no one knows what the future is gonna hold
Starting point is 01:34:40 I just hope that if that contract is on the table for Kamsmith and all the indicators are that it is, that he's having a serious rethink this evening. Yeah. Love that. I hope so. Jamie, we're going to let you go since you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're and we'll be pouring one out for you tonight. So cheers, buddy. We gotta inject you. Yeah, shit, a leash bomb in there. T.C. What are you hearing? There's nothing different than I've heard for the last like three weeks. leash, Scotty.
Starting point is 01:35:20 I mean, it's like, listen, it's fluid, right? I think the only ones that we're pretty sure on are Hideki on $350 million. There's been such a ridiculous amount of smoke over the past week, but it is kind of similar to Jamie have been like, yeah, let's just not fuel any of this for a week and see what happens. Yeah, I'm good.
Starting point is 01:35:42 I'm good. I don't need to. I will say. Today's been hard, I'm good. I'm good. I don't need to. I will say. It's been a, it's been hard enough, Dege. Let's just, the deck, we're just gonna go clean up and, all I can say, it's like, whatever. Like everything that's happened over the past several weeks,
Starting point is 01:35:53 you listen to the answers, and if the answers are super deflecting and a bunch of people in the deck, he's camp, have been super weird whenever anybody asks him about it. The deflections there, not a good sign. Henry Stenson, when asked about his future plans, said undecided, not a good sign.
Starting point is 01:36:10 James Smith deflecting the answer and the press conference afterward, not a good sign. I think it's probably a different conversation for Leesh. For instance, like, Leesh put like absolute shit this week and hasn't played very well over the last few months. And it's like, you know, at some point with leash, it's like, what's your responsibility versus like how much money can you make from this versus cam?
Starting point is 01:36:32 A little bit different. I'll say listen, if it's disappointing either way, it comes down to it and a lot of these, oh, it sucks. And if it comes down to it and most of these guys are going to live, then I'm going to root for the Aussie team. That's my squad. Sorry. Oh man, that's cool.
Starting point is 01:36:50 This is a true A-R-J. True, true cool man. Oh, it sucks. I'm not happy about it. And like, Hadecki, it sounds like Srixon is putting some of the bill for his thing and they're going to get sponsorship of the team and they'll have the whole Japanese team
Starting point is 01:37:04 and the whole Japanese market. But the thing that sucks about it is the fact that third leg Greg and MBS and these dipshits have basically gained all of this out and played the long game and played chess. That's why I said earlier, I think Jay Monahan he's lose his job. And I know that's why I said earlier, like I think, I think Jay Monahan needs to lose his job. And I know we're talking about hundreds of millions
Starting point is 01:37:29 of dollars here and all that, but Jay Monahan also had access to hundreds of millions of dollars through other formats and... Not to like pay players guaranteed enormous life changing amounts of money. Yeah, it's like PGL and all that stuff. They could have, you know. not taking the PGL calls to rethink the, like, listen, the, the cats out of the bag, they upset the apple cart.
Starting point is 01:37:53 You got to adjust now and they haven't adjusted. And I just want to Jamie hinting that maybe the majors could get together and collectively bar the live players. There's no way. They're exactly. Yeah, yeah, I just live players. There's no way. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I just don't think that's the answer.
Starting point is 01:38:09 But at the same time, Randy, like what our DJ was talking about with the world golf rankings, unless you are one of these major winners, like, there's no way that these tournaments can get, you know, world golf, they can't be official. But at some point, they got to go through the same process Everybody else went but at some point if 30 of the top 50 guys are playing in these events World golf ranking doesn't fucking mean anything anymore guys But 30 to top 50 guys are no longer playing in competitive golf tournaments that they qualify for 30 of the top 50 guys are playing Against one another and 20 of the top 50 are playing against one another
Starting point is 01:38:43 Where are you gonna throw throw the point 30 though? Like that's a that's a hyperbolic number. It's not 30. It's it's no, no, but I'm saying it's five of the top 30 or 40 golfers. And then it's a bunch of guys that used to be the top 10. That's the difference. It's just name brands. It's fucking, you know, it's guys that are trading on a name, you know,
Starting point is 01:39:05 it's like freaking GE, they used to make shit and now all they do is fucking loan money out to people. It's a lot of guys that they're trading on a name, but also like they're getting more and more guys who are. But that's almost almost like a worst case scenario, which is what we've kind of have been very consistently saying from the outset is have been very consistently saying from the outset is, talk me, like honestly, I almost said this, Neil, as you were talking about the tiger is kind of like the player coach vibe, is if you get everybody into team golf, like I'm telling you man, I'm still in on that idea.
Starting point is 01:39:37 Like I still see the benefit of not from the majors and not for, you know, not for every tournament, but from a like what I rather watch a very, very average no offense to the Traveler Championship? Would I rather watch a very average Traveler Championship or a top 48 guys playing on teams and defining rivalries? I still stand by, that's very compelling to me.
Starting point is 01:40:00 Yeah. The problem is when you get it to be half and half is where it just sucks. Yeah. When like neither thing is an actual reflection of who's the best player that week, right? And the further live gets into the like no, no, no, this is so laid back for players and nothing fucking matters at all. Just come hang out. Yeah, I get why that's very compelling for a player, but holy shit is that uninteresting for me. And that's where I continue to be like, you know, I think there is maybe room for both.
Starting point is 01:40:29 If you wanna just turn live into a pure, you know, WWE, like this is professional wrestling, we've got made up drama, we've got like the TV telecast looks a little different, like whatever. I see that as like a very compelling thing over the next year to 18 months. I think a lot of people are really gonna like it. Straight up, I think we've said that on the show in the past.
Starting point is 01:40:49 I'm not speaking for me, but I'm speaking for like, as a whole, there's a lot that people seem to really like about the live tournaments. And I'm not gonna ignore that because that's a very real thing. And when you get Cam, when you get Hadecki, these of course is all legit. But you get, you know, the other dozen players that we've heard are gonna go over the next however long.
Starting point is 01:41:12 Like, dude, it gets pretty hard to ignore that. And so, I don't know, man, it just, it seems like we're just ending up in a more and more fractured world, which is kind of like the worst case scenario. But I guess my point is, I don't think it had to be like this all the way, because all the team stuff that you're talking about was PGL,
Starting point is 01:41:32 and Jay wouldn't even take the fucking call. And this is the little idea, and people left the PGL and went and joined the Saudis and are executing like the literal PGL idea. And it's like a worse idea, like they were gonna do a better job, the PGL would have done a better job with this idea. That's the whole problem. That's the whole, like,
Starting point is 01:41:49 Jay wouldn't even have the talk. He wouldn't even stick his neck out a little bit and say, you know what? The dynamic has changed. The entire structure has changed. We need to start thinking radically differently. There's no foresight whatsoever. I agree with all that.
Starting point is 01:42:03 I don't think the dynamic had totally changed. It's now definitely totally changed, but it was harder to get that through a extremely archaic organization at that time that it was presented versus now. Even three months ago. I think it was probably even too late then. I think it was just like,
Starting point is 01:42:19 they should have definitely taken the call. I agree with that. I just think it is. Because Rory was the one, like Rory is one of the ones telling him to take the call. Or there's other guys that are like, hey man, like, like at least talk to these guys, right?
Starting point is 01:42:31 At least learn from them a little bit. At least figure out what the value is here. I don't know. Where are you, Dejan, if 30 of the top 50, go to live on the OWGR front. Does anything change on the money? They should get OWGR points in your mind. I think it's very, very easy to say, like, this is bullshit and this invalidates everything.
Starting point is 01:42:53 I think it's much, much harder to come up with a system that, like, you know, that works. Like the OWGR is run by the majors. Like, it's not like there's, there's some, like, outside body, even they're the majority of the seats, right? So for the majors would have to, I don't know, man, they're going to have to make a decision one way or the other. And I can't believe they didn't make it this year. I mean, I guess I can. You're kind of waiting to see how everything plays out. But it's totally up to them, man. I mean, they're going to be the ones that decide who they want playing in their championships. And they can always, I guess they can always change their mind and they can change their mandate
Starting point is 01:43:28 and they can change their stuff. But as we've said in the past, like that almost makes it more anti-competitive to the other tours that they've kind of made change to fit their model. So I really don't know. I both like very much get the, get the point of like this invalidates everything they're doing. How can you not have all these great players ranked in your system? I fully get that, but I also get the OWGR's point that like, you know, there has to be some consistency at some point. You can't just make this shit up willy nilly. It's not a fucking power ranking, right?
Starting point is 01:43:57 It's not like there's people sitting around a table being like these these 50 guys in this order are the best players. It's a fucking math equation, right? And you can't like, so can I interject it'd be sick to form a committee that would have been outranked. The words out of my mouth. Yeah. Wow. I just pretend up for that. Yeah. That's the whole thing. It's like it's like it may not be candy on the board. I could think of 10 people already. But, but I think also there's there's a certain sense of like, the first shoe has dropped. We've even gotten to lawsuits. We've even gotten to all the legal stuff.
Starting point is 01:44:28 We're so early in this. And that's which, but we haven't even mentioned the DOJ stuff, right? Like the DOJ, I don't know if that was leaked or if that was it. I honestly have buried my head in the sand on live stuff a little bit this week because I've gone so deep on it the last six months.
Starting point is 01:44:42 But the Department of Justice investigating the PJ tour for anime monopoly, you know, practices that seems like it sounds like that was maybe a, you know, a dove to fly out. For Biden going to see MBS. They're doing a little horse trading. Yeah, so I'm like, which very much might be true, but is objectively a fucking hilarious. I know. And when you want to talk about the whole thing,
Starting point is 01:45:05 just to just let's just train some cards, some picks. But I know we care a lot about professional golf, but when you talk about world politics and, and the level that binds on, I, for not going to lose sleep over, you know, it's a large investment from their investment fund. It's a big deal in DC. It's definitely on their radar.
Starting point is 01:45:24 I was gonna say, I, a, I, Biden's not gonna like, lose sleep over, you know, pushing forward with an antitrust stuff. Also, we haven't even mentioned it yet. There was something that came out today, where D-Rap came out with the, the live guys, uh, playing Asian tour, essentially, which, you know, that totally counteracts the whole point of them. Hey, I want to play less and all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:45:45 But if, you know, the younger guys, that is the path. There's nothing stopping for the Asian tour from setting up events in the US and in the UK. To however, however, don't sleep on the fact that the OWGR is about to go through a massive change in August as well, which is going to reward much, much deeper fields, much stronger than they are super top heavy fields. So right now, it's like if you have, you know, five guys in the top 20 go play an Asian tour event. Like, yes, you're going to get a lot more points,
Starting point is 01:46:13 but as that changes, it's going to be, that's going to be less and less of a real path as well. You know what I'm saying? Like, if it's, if it's five of the top 20 and then nobody else, like that field's not going to be shit. All I'm saying is don't get it twisted like I'm rooting for the PJ tour. I'm rooting for it. It just like like both it's like a fork in the road and both paths. Sure. Yes, it does. And where I still going back to the OJR thing is like I for me, it doesn't matter how many guys leave. Like if you there's a reason why and you did a great job outlining a DJ of the layers of competitive
Starting point is 01:46:48 golf, a feeder system matters to this. If I can, there's no connectivity to live matters. It's a closed system. It is, but there's a reason why you need a feeder system of your tour. It's basically your tour made up of people that qualified for this tour in a way through good golf, made it into this so that they can go and earn official World Golf ranking points by playing 72 whole events, which we also play in the majors. Like this was this whole thing is for is like big open fields with cuts is what we're
Starting point is 01:47:16 trying to see who qualifies for the best. A bunch of dudes going to go getting up front money and playing 54 whole exhibition events. I don't care how many of the best players I get, doesn't look the same as what competitive golf looks like. And I don't know the law enough to call that anti-competitive. But if we're literally just talking about like how you qualify for the biggest events in golf which are staying the same, I see no, it's not about the number of guys
Starting point is 01:47:40 that would go leave for that in my mind. Those guys are ones leaving competitive golf, if you ask me. Guys, I feel like Jamie Wears call in was like the 60 minutes ticking clock. I used to feel in my previous. Sunday scary. Just like, we got school tomorrow. Oh God, man, I call, man, I gotta go,
Starting point is 01:47:59 I gotta go cold call tomorrow. Are you kidding me? Part of it too is the guys that, like the guys that have said no to big offers so far. All right, let's say Cam Hadecki, leash, Adam Scott, all go. Then like Sam Burns, he's, you know, he's gotten offered a shitload of money. He shot 64 today, by the way. He shot 44 on the back yesterday and then shot 64. Low round of the day. He shots 77 to 64 on the weekend, weird week. But like, if I'm Sam Burns or if I'm Zander
Starting point is 01:48:29 or if I'm Shipbag, can't lay, I'm like, yo, why am I not getting paid? I mean, and then it's pissing Rory off even more than it should. It's pissing JT off. It's pissing the guys that should be making a lot more of this money. They're seeing the other guys get paid. Like the whole thing, I can see where it's leading
Starting point is 01:48:49 and it's like, hey, there's gonna be less and less blowback for each guy that goes. And then B, it's gonna be, hey, where's my bag? Where's my hundred, 200, 300 million dollars? Can we pause the shit on Stenson just a little bit if this is true? You go and be the writer cup captain. I agree to become the writer cup.
Starting point is 01:49:08 Just don't do that. And then or or waiting year two events later, you're going to go and flip like holy shit. I didn't have the time though because he's he's old. God, what a that is the shitty. Hey, you know what? You're playing. Why don't we.
Starting point is 01:49:22 Yeah, what? Don't die. Shout out to sit. Can we? Cody, I think we should fire up. What's the don't you play it? Why don't we, uh, yeah, what, what the shit don't die shut up to say, Cody, I think we should fire up what's the best thing you saw today? Let's end it on a, on a positive note tonight, huh? Who wants to go first? Deed, you're up first. Uh, I don't even remember what I sent in.
Starting point is 01:49:36 I was pretty, I was in a pretty dark spot. Uh, it was a tweet of some sort. I think it was a tweet for Bam a Bearcat. I was just, it really, really, uh, tickled me kind of right in the middle of the, the duel there. I'm going to name my two boys, Rory and Cam. They're currently 16 and 14 years old. Just really, really enjoyed the idea of our guy, Bam a Bearcat, changing the names of
Starting point is 01:49:58 his two sons. That really made me laugh. Which, dude, shout out to, shout out to him that nobody got hurt on 17 this week. Yeah, and he was big about that too. I kind of farted in his face about the whole 17 thing yesterday, and he very calmly came back. I'm just glad nobody got hurt. The very best of the best.
Starting point is 01:50:14 He's, go follow him on Twitter. He's always brings the noise. Ranny, what do you got? I sent a few things to Cody. I know. This hard to pick, just wasn't it? A lot of directions we could go with this. I sent a few things to Cody. I know. Hard to pick just one. A lot of directions we could go with this.
Starting point is 01:50:29 I know. My girl Holly Anderson just off the top rope, bludgeoning a dead Rory with a tweet, quote, wishing Caroline Wadsniakia beautiful Sunday. That made me laugh. Cool, quote, wishing Caroline wasniac a beautiful Sunday. That made me laugh. Cool, cool, cool. Sali mine was cam from behind the bunker on 17. It is just a grotesque grotesque image of where that ball was and getting that up and down to hold off a not really charging for or he
Starting point is 01:51:05 to go out and win the open championship have to get that up and down basically to win the open championship and go birdie eighteen and doing it with all he had done prior to that and he's putting it and could have legitimately could have put it this into the bunker and got the speed right and then made the comeback or that was iconic picture is the best thing I saw today. It was fantastic. And just real jami apparently made up his mind on what to do with that heterocentin info because he just we did a hundred cents and is expected to join live-com and to be stripped of his right of cap can see so i've got barely uh... you
Starting point is 01:51:35 probably got off this call to the city i better get out in front of this one that that you know that shows on was life no shout-out to wadge That yo that's shows on was live no Shout to wadge you see what he got a lot of different ways a lot of different ways we could go Philippa Charlie we could we could go that way Grazie Grazie Low am 71 71 on the weekend, but I'm going with cam shot on 11 That was the big dick big dick shot that that a catapulted him into even being in position to do the stuff that he did on 12. You know, 10, the chip was great, but making
Starting point is 01:52:13 birdie on 11, I think catapulted him into being birdie on 12 and 13 and coming down the stretch and all that. It was, I don't know, I'm I'm booed by it. I know we got a lot of shit. You know, there's storm clouds in the future, but with Cam, I just, I'm really, really happy. I feel like the guy that, the best golfer won the tournament today. Oh, hell yeah, the bots are here. Oh, just the time. That's the best thing I've ever heard.
Starting point is 01:52:38 They heard us talk and live. They came running. They heard the sound. My favorite thing, I think I saw it last night, but I might have seen it right after midnight, because I was deep and watching some alone, shout out to a lone on Netflix. I'm like, I'm hooked.
Starting point is 01:52:54 So I don't know if Cody has it, but it's Chez Revy knows about Chez Fest. I'm just, I think he was asked about in this press conference. It's pretty cool, pretty cool that life works. I mean, you know, you just, you think he was asked about in his press conference. Pretty cool. Pretty cool. That life works. I mean, you know, you just, you kind of just think something into existence. And he said, yeah, I've heard about this Ches Fest thing. And yeah, I think, I think it's pretty cool, man. And I'm, I'm in on it. And I, maybe I'll, maybe I'll go to Ches Fest. And I just want Ches to know that, that we're pulling for you today. And you were, you know, we would love,
Starting point is 01:53:22 love to have an appearance from you here on the NLE live show at some point in the future. He's got a six point lead. I know he's, he's kind of in total control, which, which worries me because I felt that same way about Rory and I was looking for a Rory Ches double. I can't think of anything that would have made me happier going into today. And if, if I go over to on the Rory Ches double, that's going to be, it's going to be tough, very tough for me. Harry Higgs starting to play some good golf.
Starting point is 01:53:45 Neil, I almost asked you last night, Sophie's choice situation. Who you would have taken, Chez or Rory today? Uh, man. That's a tough one. Before you answer, you know, Rory at the home of golf or Chez at something called the Barakuda chamois. Playing a stable for. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:03 That's a tough one. That's a really tough one. I mean, honestly, I I feel like the chest thing just makes me laugh every time. I was so I was like tell my wife I like woke her up she's sleeping on the couch like yo, yo, chest knows about chest fest. She's like, what stop? What are you doing? What's your problem? I was like, no, you don't understand. This is this is a big deal. So it just, uh, I don't know. It makes me makes me chuckle every time. Cody, I don't know if you can, I don't know. It makes me, it makes me chuckle every time. Cody, I don't know if you can, I don't know how quickly you can put stuff up on screen. So not, not trying to put you in a bad spot.
Starting point is 01:54:30 But I almost have kind of an update. Cody's best thing I saw. Smart and a friend of the program, of course, just tweeted out the best thing about the old course. Oh, there's a lot of great things about the old course. But one of the best things, the fact that it's the public park on Sunday, it just hosted what I think is legitimately, like I said, maybe one of the best golf tournaments I've ever watched in my life. And now just a couple hours later, there's already like little kids running around
Starting point is 01:54:56 the place, jumping into bunkers. Can't lay someone around. Yeah, little boys like can't lay. Just running around, running a muck. It's just the fucking best place ever, man. I just went off on Thursday, I think, or in the preview, whatever that was about. Kind of the authenticity of, there's so much fake shit in golf and kind of faux traditions and whatever.
Starting point is 01:55:19 And this is the one that all the fake stuff is kind of based on. You know, it's the realist of the real. So seeing all kinds of people just milling about where they just crown the champion golf or the year is the best It's so freaking cool couple people from the from the Rory block party having sex No, I feel like yeah, it feels a little bit like the vibe out there is like Woodstock 99-ish like there's a bunch of zombies What wandering around the 18? Yeah, I also think it was I don't know if it's I think deep fried egg or one of those guys uh tweeted that after the uh after the the big ovation for Tiger coming across this welcome bridge that that Phil should hide under the bridge.
Starting point is 01:55:54 Oh, which was also one of the best. Nick was Jones is saying in the comments. Saw someone tweeted they can't wait to see that happen at LACC next year. Yeah, exactly. That's a pretty good juxtaposition. Shoes, sir, I thought you're going with this guy. No, I mean, that was cams perform. My point there was just cam wrecking the block party, biting kids. TC won't leash his dog.
Starting point is 01:56:17 He lives in the dilapidated. No, no, my dog's not the problem. Yeah, no, no, no, my dog's fine. You're just won the fucking tournament. I told you not to let your kid pet my dog. Of course my dog's gonna bite your kid. That's what he's supposed to do. I don't have rabies.
Starting point is 01:56:30 What's your problem? So that was, I was gonna go that direction, but I just had to give Chesa shout out, because listen, it's not over tonight, folks. Chesa's on right now. Like go, go turn on your TVs. Respectfully, I'm gonna, I'm gonna sit down. I'm good.
Starting point is 01:56:43 Let's go enjoy, we get a Sunday night for one of the only weekends of the year. So, programming note, though, going forward, we are not going to have a weekly recap next week as we will be gone. We're boycotting it. And we'll use summer vacation. We will try to have one in two weeks. We are still going to be gone. And the golf watching is going to be at a very, very, very
Starting point is 01:57:08 small minimum, whatever you want to call it, I'm out of words after this week. I'm calling for it the next couple weeks. So bear with us. We'll have episodes coming out. Don't you worry about that, but it is going to be a little limited on the recap front. I'm exhausted. It's, well, I gave it a my all. I gave everything I had to the major championships this year. I put all my chips in. They rewarded us a lot in terms of entertainment Maybe not the all of the results that we wanted and all of them But that's that was a tremendous tremendous golf tournament. I enjoyed every second of watching it I don't regret any of the the early wakeups or the investments or the prep or or any of it I I could take I could do more old course right now if I had to so a lot of people ask them where Torres sauces. Well, we will keep you posted
Starting point is 01:57:47 We haven't decided yet. We're deciding this week Yeah, we're doing the airport thing needs we're just gonna show up and and and figure it out We're gonna look at the big board and figure out where we want to go Cody. I've been talking about doing that really Fall. Yeah, I do you guys want to apologize once more? No, we're good. I'm good. I think definitely. I'll go TCI I am sorry. I should have never doubted'll go. TCI, I'm sorry. I should have never doubted you yesterday. Thanks, big, I appreciate that. You're welcome.
Starting point is 01:58:08 Thanks, seriously. Thank you, generational wealth, prosperity for all, inclusive business. We good here. That's all you want to, you want to come in? We're good. Thanks everyone for tuning it. Cody, anything we missed, are we good?
Starting point is 01:58:20 No, the only thing that I'd say is a last quick shout out to the presenting sponsor Yeti. It took a lot of work getting a proud partner on board to bring through the live shows. We're not done for the year. We still have something else coming up later on in the fall. But thank you to Yeti. Thank you for the products. If you guys happen to be in the market for soft coolers, hard coolers, cups, tumblers, jugs, you name it, visit them at Yeti.com. You guys want some high quality shit? You should buy some Yeti.
Starting point is 01:58:47 Also, I honestly like to give a shout out to the NLU Pro Shop too. We just got these rain jackets in, short sleeve rain jackets, and I went for a run in one yesterday in the rain. They're bomb. We had them like four years ago. Go check, if you're looking for a rain jacket,
Starting point is 01:59:01 I'm putting my name behind this product, okay? And I'm slapping a guarantee on it. I want to give a shout out to Cody. Yeah, and I want to give a shout out to Cody too. Love that. Dremendous producing of the live shows. I've been producing for the year. All season.
Starting point is 01:59:14 Thank you. I appreciate it. No more to live next week. Yeah, yeah. One thing, we joke a lot about majors. We joke a lot about what the USGA does, but I am so excited for this week, the inaugural playing of the USGA, US Adaptive Open at Pinehurst number six. This is not an ad, but I'm very, very excited if people have listened to my story,
Starting point is 01:59:33 listened to any downrange podcasts, we've featured a couple of them on there so far. It's going to be an awesome event, 54 whole championship, not an exhibition of the best disable players in the world. And I'm excited for Wednesday night to see you a deserving champion being crowned. So it's going to be awesome. And you'll be on site, right? Be on site props to Pinehurst Resort, props to the USGA for a spearheading this because it's a lot of very deserving golfers out there that might not look like the people that we watch on screen every Sunday, but they're still pretty badass. Awesome.
Starting point is 02:00:06 What's the best way to follow that? Probably our Instagram. Good answer. All right. As Cody mentioned, we'll be back for some live shows this fall for the Live Tore Championship, of course. And we'll be checking in from Taurus Sosriod. Thank you so much for watching all week.. We're out of here. Cheers. That's an all-time
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