No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 599: Euro BMW PGA Recap with Jamie Weir

Episode Date: September 12, 2022

Shane Lowry wins the BMW PGA Championship at Wentworth by a shot over Rory and Jon Rahm. We're joined by Jamie Weir of Sky Sports to go through the Sunday fireworks on the course as well as the off course drama surrounding the LIV players who participated in the event, the future of the European Tour, Sergio's WD and more.  Plus - we review our week in Cincinnati at the inaugural LPGA Kroger Queen City Championship and look at the captains' picks for the upcoming Presidents Cup.  If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/LA/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA). 21+ (18+ NH/WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA(select parishes)/MI/NH/NJ/ NY/OR/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. New customer offer void in NH/OR/ONT-CA. $200 in Free bets: New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22 @ 8pm. Early Win: 1 Early Win Token issued per eligible game. Opt in req. Token expires at start of eligible game. Min moneyline bet $1. Wagering limits apply. Wagers placed on both sides of moneyline will void bet. Ends 1/8/23 @ 8pm ET. See terms at sportsbook dot draftkings dot com slash football terms Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Lang Up Podcast Sunday afternoon, right out here in the kill house. There's a reason we're recording a bit early. Early we'll get to that here.

And second, Sally here. T.C. is here after a long week in the Queen City. Hello, T.C. Hello, Sally. Many, many Coney's devoured this week. Shout out to Skyline. It was a great week in the Queen City. Hello, T.C. Hello, solid. Many, many conies devoured this week. Shout out to Skyline. It was a great week and Cincinnati. This podcast is brought to you by our friends at Skyline. And calling in from across the pond to help us break down the BMW PGA championship this week, our good friend Jamie Weir we last saw him on this podcast just to spawn it, desolate after

the open championship. I'm glad to hear that you are alive and well. Hello, Jamie Weir. Yeah, thank you. I'd love me to be on. Funnily enough, somebody actually came up to me at Wentworth and said today, have you recovered since the Open? And I'm not sure if I ever will.

I've still got the emotional scars, but hey, oh. We got a lot to chat about with things that have happened in the world of golf this past week. We were also, like I said, at the Queen City, the Kroger Queen City Championship in sense of this week. And as with just about every week on the LPJ tour at the Kroger Queen City Championship Calaway, once again, the most played equipment brand across just about every product category as the most played driver, Fairway Wood and Iron, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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Emmet Halley on the ESPN Plus broadcast after her round. She hopped into the announcer's booth, had some fun commentary and insightful observations. I'm way in on players jumping into the booth after playing. So Calaway's support of the women's game does not stop with the LPJ tour. They have the broadest assortment of women's specific equipment of any manufacturer and for more on Calaway's support of the women's game. Or most importantly, their women's specific equipment of any manufacturer and for more on Calibase support of the women's game. Or most importantly, their women's products go to calwaygolf.com slash women's golf. That's calwaygolf.com slash women's golf. Jamie, quite an eventful week on a lot of fronts over at the BMW PGA.

What is the biggest story in your mind? Well, I mean, as you say, just over here, it's been a surreal, very sad few days for obvious reasons, but we got a golf tournament away in the end. 54 holes, obviously, which the irony wasn't lost on a lot of people, but what a finish. We got this afternoon. It was just, you know, the big, the cream rose to the top. The big names were up there. At one stage, I thought we were going to get an all Irish playoff, but somehow Rory's put just missed for Eagle in the 18th and Big Shane got the victory. I've actually little means so much to him because he loves Wentworth.

He always performs really well here. Somebody said to me in Tuesday, who do you fancy this week? I said, this is Big Shane's week. Did I put any of my own money on? No. Do I feel like an idiot? Yes. But I'm delighted for Big Shane,

and I gave them a hug at the end, which apparently was called in TV cameras. So that was pretty embarrassing as well. But yeah, we just got a great finish and three big beasts of European goal right up at the top of the leaderboard. So I think everyone's, everyone in the European tour is delighted

with how it all panned out in the end. I will say for basically ever since the 54 tour has started, both the PGA tour and now the DP World Tour with their biggest bit have gotten the results they've needed out of it. When it could have gone a lot of different way, look, what they have loved for Roy's putt to have dropped and they've gone to a playoff, sure, but you know, to have Lord Loury, you know, I'm not sure they would have loved that because we had a bit of an issue with daylight hours here because of the fog this morning. So I'm not sure if it might even have even been Rory and Shane coming back tomorrow.

So I think they were quite happy in the end to have a fitting champion. But yeah, look, you're absolutely spot on ever since the 54 tour started up. We've had some dramatic finishes on both sides of the pond. Yeah, it's like the biggest guys are getting up for it. I mean, although I thought when when Reed came in with a 63 pretty early today, I was like, is it going to be that kind of day? This is what you need data golf for because I saw that. I went to it and it said point two chance percent, a percent chance of winning.

No, let's see. It was pretty fast. Gooch up there and some other guys kind of, you know, able to make a little bit of noise. I honestly, the read-winning would have been funny. Gooch winning would have been just kind of boring and annoying. Read-winning would have been hilarious. I'm sorry. It would have been absolutely hilarious.

I did just see a tweet saying that if Patrick read-winds, how much money does pop Perez win, which I quite enjoy. Yeah, four Aces, man, tough. Like Reed, I will say, I think he does have a leg to stand on as far as support of the European tour. More so than these other random chuckleheads you're turning up at, uh, went worth. You agree, Jamie? Yeah, I said to people at the start of the week, you know, it's tempting to sort of group all the live golfers in together. And there were 15 that had played in Boston, 18 that had played any 11 event in total.

But I said, you can't really talk them all with one brush. And the way I saw it going into the week, there were kind of three separate categories. So category one was players like Laurie Cantor, Richard Blan, Justin Harding, who are familiar faces in the European tour, have played in several events since the Centurion event on Liv, and have been made to feel reasonably welcome at those events. The second category then is your rider cup, stalwarts, the legends, Lee Westwood, Ian Porter, Graham McDial, Sergio Garcia, who will come on to show a more detailed later on, where McDowell, Sergio Garcia, who will come on to show a more detailed answer on where, you know, a lot of

people sort of felt, right, you've done so much for European golf that we don't mind you being here. Other people felt you've gone out of your way to be combative and pick fights and denigrate the tour and take the pace sort of, you know, yeah, you know, people have heard about Sirju's rant in the locker room in Munich, I'm sure, which week can come on to if they haven't. So there was still a little bit of animosity towards

those guys being there, and then there was the third category, which was, take a good Abraham answer, where people were just like, what the hell are you doing here? And you heard my interview with Shane in particular, I just said, I can't stand those guys being there, which is, you know, I've never heard Shane shoot from the hip as much as that before. And I think there was just a lot of bad blood from the very start of the week. But, yeah, thankfully we got some DP World Tour loyalists up at the top of the leaderboard instead. Well, a couple things to that. I, you know, Kevin Vibolkberg had quoted, tweeted it just to say a shout out to you for asking, you've going back all the way to March from when we saw you

here at the players, probably before then, you've asked extremely direct questions, right? At players about about this and not avoided it. And Shane gave it just a very good and honest answer of that. You mentioned that there. And I'm going to read it here some of it. But he said, there's some guys that kind of don't mind them being here, given what they've done for the tour over the years.

There are certain guys I just can't stand them being here to be honest. I don't like that they're here. I think to be honest, the one thing that has really annoyed me over the last few months is how disruptive they're trying to be. Obviously, they're here for World Ranking Point somewhat, but they're here to be disruptive and I don't like that. To be honest, if I put myself in those guys shoes, would I be here this week? No, it's too uncomfortable for me. It is what it is. Like I said, it's the BMW PGA championship.

The biggest event in Europe, and we will be talking about that, and we are not. It's disappointing. Anybody that knows me, I don't like confrontation or any of that stuff. I'll say hello and do my thing. That's the way I'll be. Obviously, the lads, I've known them for years, and some of them have become good friends over the last few years, but obviously I haven't seen them in a long time. Long time now, don't hang out with them anymore. Probably won't be going to dinner because we haven't seen each other, but yeah, there are certain lads that I shake hands with and certain lads I wouldn't. You should have, you should have hit him with the chaps.

Yeah, certain chaps. Slads, I'll shake hands with the chaps that I won't, but to the point of just being disruptive and I promise we will talk about the tournament. Like, Polter being asked not to wear his live stuff and saying, I'm a part owner of this league and I plan to wear it after suing his way into the tournament is exactly what Shane is referring to here about being disruptive for the sake of being disruptive.

Like, have a little bit of respect for, and have a little understanding for the Apple card that you have upset here. Like, you have major decision, you've got major bed lying it, but at least if you're gonna be suing your way into golf tournaments, have a little bit of respect for, you know,

guys like Shane that are not doing that and now you get, gets compete in the same event. I just think that's exactly what, and then Sergio, we gotta save some time for that. Yeah, Sergio is a big segment. Yeah, it's urgent. It's not exactly. Yeah, I mean, you know, you know, Rex Hoggard was over here for the golf channel this week and Rex put out that tweet explaining that he and Paul Turhead just defied and what Keith Pelley had asked everyone to do by not wearing the live logo as a Paul to respond and say, I can do whatever I want.

Ian Polter quoted that basically going off at Rex saying, her majesty's just died. How can you bring this up at this time? There are more serious issues going on. He then subsequently deleted it. But Rex has tweeted being, you know, a few hours before the news had broken about the Queen passing away. But it just shows how these guys just are operating at the moment that, you know, part of me almost

slightly admires the brass neck and I'm even turning up this week, because like Shane said, I would have felt completely awkward being there as well knowing that people don't want you there, knowing that so many of your peers have completely lost any respect for you. I, you know, the brass neck to turn up in the first place, I almost admire in a way.

Brass neck, great. That's great. Great to steal that one, but shout to Martin Kimer. Like, he is one of the most upfront people about like, I almost admired it away. Russ neck, great. That's great. Great job. Great job. We're still that one. Shout out to Martin Kimer. He is one of the most upfront people about, yeah, this is obviously a huge financial reward for me.

As far as I know, he hasn't tried to spew any bullshit in our direction, and he straight up said, like, I would not feel comfortable playing there. I can play in the field, thanks to the lawsuit or whatever, and I wouldn't feel comfortable with it, and I'm not going to do it. That I think is just, it's somebody that has made the decision to leap and is not trying to double dip and is not being duplicitous and is being pretty straightforward with the whole thing. And I think most of the guys are totally fine with that.

If that is what no one has an issue with guys going and playing and just, and having that be their career going forward and Shane put that on, on display pretty perfectly with his quotes, I thought. Yeah. I think, you know, from speaking to European to players, the kind of attitude for a couple of months now, it has been, look, fine, you've made your decision. Do I agree with it? No. But fuck off then. Don't think you keep sort of coming back and taking spots off players who need it. And Martin Kimer is an interesting example, actually, because Martin has played pretty much all of his goal for the last three or four years now over in Europe and he's

you know what Martin Kimer is like. He's one of the nicest, most honest, on-the-earth guys. He's very popular. He probably would have been made to feel reasonably welcome at Wentworth this week. It's other guys who's true colors have shown up recently, with whom the mask is slept for a lot of people, who a lot of people have no time for not at all, where, okay, if you're gonna go and take the live money, that's one thing, but don't feel as if you can constantly get in your soup box on Twitter and just destroy the tour that has done so much for you over the years.

So, there's a lot of better feeling at the moment from, you know, the rank and file of the tour towards these, these, these, these legends of the game, if you like. And like, you know, it's one thing to do with the PJ tour. It's another thing to do with the European tour, which is suffering far more greatly from all of this. Why did Paul Casey not turn up? Was that a, was that an injury thing?

Or was that because he would have been one of the ones I expected to turn up just because he doesn't seem like the most upstanding, you know, open and honest guys out there. I don't think you wanted to run into Jamie again. Yeah, it could have been an injury with him. I don't know. You know, I didn't miss him. You know, I as Shane said in that quote, I'm convinced that

a least three or four of them turned up just to be disruptive. And I'm sure we'll get onto the players meeting on Tuesday night, but they went there on Mars to ask questions that would try to make Keith Palley look stupid and try to trip him up. Keith had an answer prepared for everything. That didn't descend into Fistie Cuffs and people having to be separated like people were predicting. Everybody was impressed with how Keith handled himself in that meeting and then the following day in front of the media as well. I think there's a reasonable chance that these guys are getting paid bonus money on top of what they've already made to show up and do this and ask these questions.

Like there be there's there's a bounty out there that they're collecting. I believe that. I mean, I hadn't even really thought about that, but yeah, they're gonna be out there to try to promote the live product. I mean, that's kind of- And Bush marketing. That's kind of the thing.

But, I promise we were, you know, live is gonna permeate through any conversation we have, but to go back to the golf tournament a little bit here, Bogey Free for the entire tournament for Shane Lowry. Blue my freaking mind. Now, it was pretty damn soft out there from what I could tell. I mean, was it just a dark contest out there and how much is that vary from what we've seen year to year at Wentworth? Yeah. We have had a lot of rain this week, so they were just throwing darts. But it is a course that in recent years

has shown itself to be gettable as well, which blows my mind, because I've played the West course that went with a few times and a strong to the test to. I'm not a good golfer, but I just find it such a slog. I find it a really difficult course, but these guys just make it look so straightforward. And it can be a bit more might, the West course that went with some players

don't like it enough. Lot it always seems to provide good finishes and it always seems to provide an incredible leaderboard. And the players when you speak to them, I mean, Shane adores it. Matt Fitz, Rory, a lot of players really like it. They think it tests every single aspect of your game. You've got to be straight off the team, not necessarily long, but straight off the team.

It's a second shot golf course. You've just got to be an absolutely supreme ball striker, which why when you look at the top three and the leaderboard, the three of the best ball strikers in the business, the rough was thick and juicy this week, so you didn't want to veer offline. But you've got to shape the ball. I think there are a lot of similarities and that you're probably not going to like this, but there are a lot of similarities to a gustor. I'm not saying anywhere near as good a golf course before we lose their minds, but what I mean is, you know, tree line, second shot golf course, the shot it asks you to play. So in the back nine in particular, on 11, 12, 13, 16, 17, it asks you to draw the ball. And then suddenly you have to stand on the 18th tee with a turn run in the line and hit a cut

on this sort of tree line fairway when you haven't hit a cut for the last two hours, which is very Augusta like. And the other thing that's similar to Augusta is because there's so many scoring opportunities towards the end of the round. You see these guys surge up to the top of the leaderboard and you think, well, they're sitting pretty naive,

but all the guys on the still in the golf course, I've got the chance to then play those holes. So, you know, John Ram came in what, two hours before Rory and Shane had even gone up the 18th, and he was thinking, oh, is it gonna be enough? And I was actually surprised in the end that he was as close as he was. You know, it always seems to provide drama.

And I know you guys have said in the past, like Tori Pines is a prime example of, okay, I always provides drama and a great leaderboard, but it's not a very good course. But I think the West, the West at Wentworth, I've almost done a full 180 on. I used to think it's not that great a course. And now I think, well, if all the players like it so much, there must be something there. Connor reminds me of Firestone in that regard. And you said, you totally saved that Augusta take, by the way. I see where you're going with that I was really nervous when you started that but I see exactly where you're going with that and my question is The par-fives

Admittedly we had a lot going on this week. I'm in and out of coverage and every time I looked up Somebody was putting for Eagle like from six feet from 12 feet are the pie par-fives just that getable What is it about is it was did it have to do with the softness this week? Yeah, I was trying to find stats on them and I couldn't find any. Yeah, I mean, today they moved the tee up on the fourth way. The fourth is very guetable anyway, because it's downhill. You should always be reaching that into the 12th is probably the hardest to get on in two of all of them, but you know, they were still managing at no problem.

The 17th is a great hole because you've just got to hit a big, ropey hook around the corner. And, you know, a few players actually came on stuck there when I say unstuck, Shane Pardit, Rory Pardit, it's not an instant guaranteed birdie, the 17th and then 18th. If you get a good t-shirt away, everybody should be looking to reach it into. But again, you've just got to be a little bit offline and you're in that thick juicy rough or as belief or horsesal for and yesterday, you're in a bunker and it can very quickly unravel in that hole. So, you know, the 18th is a hole that after the redesign wasn't that popular, but I think

it's a brilliant finishing hole because you can have anything from a three to seven in that hole. Well, I mean, it feels like it maybe wasn't that popular after the redesign, but they've redesigned that hole specifically, like five or six times more than the course, right? Yeah, it's like a weird part for and a hat. It's a good theater hole, I think, right? I mean, it's, you know, long iron in. I mean, you haven't worried to hit four iron in there and needed to make three with

the tournament on the line made for some good TV. We struggled. I don't know. I still don't know how you missed that part either. That's right. I was chatting to Rory about afterwards. He's like, I don't know how that pup missed. I don't know. I still don't know how he missed that part either. That's right. I was chatting to Rory about afterwards. He's like, I don't know how that put missed. I don't know how that went.

Right. It just ran out of steam. My wife called it the slowest looking putt she'd ever seen. Like the ball was rolling towards the hole forever. And I just wanted to say I felt very happy for Shane. It felt like he's played really, really freaking good golf this year. The best season of his career without the best results, like the best, you know, the best hadn't had the biggest peak weeks. I mean, straight up his ball striking this year has been incredible.

One of his better putting seasons he's had and clearly across the board, the best statistical season he's had. And I was just stunned to see he hadn't won since the 2019 open. That was his first win since then over three years and on either tour. And that was surprising to me, but doesn't speak to how successful he's been over the last several years. I was holding something in your heart too for a guy's that when you write him for a really good hot streak and they hit a bunch of top fives for you. I feel like you root for him way after that. And I think

that was the last bet I won for the year was at the Masters or something like that for him for top five. Yeah, I was trying to change my energy about it earlier in the week. We were walking a few holes during one of the practice runs. And he was saying, Oh, God, he needs a win this week because he's just been knocking in the door so many times. And he's had such a good year. I think he's had a year, Shane, where he's almost gone from somebody who you consider, Oh, well, he's obviously a very good golfer to somebody who is not always in the conversation. It comes to major championships. He's just gone into that upper echelon, I think, of golfers. And maybe not on your side of the pond, I don't know, but certainly

over here, he's somebody that's always spoken about going into the majors or somebody with a chance because he's got every shot in the book. And he was so unlucky, like at the Honda, for example, when the heavens just opened, when he seemed to have that tournament in the palm of his hand. So I'm delighted from doing it. I've been interviewing Shane when he comes to have that tournament in the palm of his hand. So I'm delighted from doing it. I've been interviewing Shane when he comes to Wentworth for years and he loves this place. This was a bucket list tournament for him to win. So yeah, getting a big hug when he came off the back of 18

because I was delighted for him. And I might be joining him for a few beers later on. Oh gosh, let's see. I might throw some money on Shane to win the US Open this year at LACC. It just seems like his kind of golf course. It's not a Bomber's paradise. It's an iron play, just proper player.

The vision fund. It predict Colin. By the way, the future's bad. Did you see the shot he posted on Twitter yesterday of his second shot to the 17th, the Wentworth was the this the tight draw? I mean, or what? Just this like low stinger hook around the trees, where he just walks after it. I mean, it is a thing of beauty.

So yeah, I mean, he's just, he's a short maker and that's what I think he's still entertaining to watch. Rory felt like he let this one slip away a little bit. He had a good shot from the trees there on 17. Left it in kind of a tough spot to get up and down from. But even just, you know, coming a couple holes earlier, he hit one of the best drives I've seen this year, just a high, hydraulic fluid 340,

and just a little bit off with his irons that seemed like today. It felt like Sunday at the open, a little bit honestly. It was a lot of medium range puts that just kind of went by on the edge that was not the putters fault, but just not really stuffing it in. And like wedges that are going to 15, like 12 or 15 feet instead of seven or eight feet,

which to like kind of to his credit means like, he's playing really good golf. I was chatting with Radar Wayne Riley, who's our on course commentator, and Anthony Wolle, who does it for the European tour productions. And they're both saying as we were walking up about 16, I think, that every yardage he'd left himself in today for a second shot was sort of between clubs.

It just was one of those days when he just didn't have his exact number. So he was having to take a little bit off a nine hour or a little bit on a wedge or whatever. So it's meant he was always just trying to have sort of forced the issue. But even still, like, I think Rory kind of had his maybe B minus game this week, C++ game maybe, and he still finishes a shot off a playoff. And that's just the kind of golf that he's playing at the moment. I can't remember even 2014 when he wins two majors with a WGC, you know, sandwiched in

between them. I don't think he was playing as consistent golf as he is now. And you think of Rory, I think maybe people think of somebody who, oh, he can have these hot streaks where he's impossible to beat, but then he'll throw in, you know, a random 78 and miss a cut. This isn't, this reincarnation of Rory isn't that person. He's just so unbelievably consistent. He seems to have a chance to win every single tournament he plays. And if he is having a bad day, he finds a way of just grinding it out and turning it into a half decent score. So let's just hope he can bottle out and kite into next season into the majors because he is the best goal for the planet at the moment. The numbers back that up.

I would, I mean, it's kind of wild if you do look. First of all, again, this is not, I'm, it's only gonna help this week, but the data golf numbers are not updated yet for this week, but this is his best ever stroke skein season. So the best he's ever been at getting the golf ball in the hole in 20 starts. He has 17 top 20s worldwide.

He has nine top fiveives, three wins. And yeah, he is plus over plus one off the T plus point seven approach plus point four five around the green plus point five three putting his best ever putting season as well. And so it's probably, I mean, it's just He's played great golf. He betrayed all that for one of the majors. I know he would, but it it's just it's just, it's still worth emphasizing how good his, his golf is actually like Texas. You know, he might be back, but you're not back. As you win it, but you know, yeah, no, I'm, I'm a believer right. I think he's been. Was that your side? Do you want to talk about big texts? No, I think we can still keep waiting. I think Rom, it's good to see some form out of ROM. Seriously, the buoy seems to be, he's good to see some form out of ROM. Seriously. The buoy seems to be down to six in the world.

To the surface again. He's back. Yeah. Back nine 29 with a bogey on the par 37 back nine. Eagles two of the par fives on the back and the bot 9s of par 37 went worth. So exactly. I believe I just said that. What do you what do you what are you getting at here? Did you say that? Yes. I just said that. Pay attention. I'm sorry. I know your mind is on those beers with shame But we'll get there. I promise you the last 10 holes in nine under par outrageous Soaring kielson. Yeah, where did that come from number 608 in the world out of nowhere He was I mean, they were on for the right of cup team. Oh God. Oh, yeah, shit. We can get there Victor Disappointing 70 he had the left today. What was up with that? He seems like he has the left Oh God. Oh yeah, shit, we can get there. Victor, disappointing 70.

He had the left today. What was up with that? He seems like he has the left's every once in a while now in a big spot. He gave it, he hit like his fourth or fifth drive way left and I forget off what T it was. He just goes, what is going on? And I was like, oh dude, welcome to my last two years.

Just standing, like hitting a T shot, wondering why it's not done the middle of the fairway and watching it sail left. That has been my last two years. Just standing, I hitting a tee shot, wondering why it's not on the middle of the fairway and watching it sail left. That has been my last two years. It was just very relatable to watch him go through that. Still shoots 200 today and finishes T5. I know I'm going down the leaderboard a little bit here. But Thomas Dietri, he's got his PGA tour card

for the upcoming year. Feels like he's starting to raise his game a little bit. Thomas Peters as well, he's kind of poking around again. And then we come to P. He shoots 63. Jamie, I wanted to get your take on the times of London story that came out today on P. Yeah, what is the time of London?

I'll hold my hand if I haven't read it. Okay. But I've sort of seen the quotes from it, where he basically says that he feels a bit misunderstood and did you talk about his daughter? Like, he's used as well. No, so he talked about the stuff that he had to endure as a child.

I wouldn't wish that upon anyone and how there's really not a time and a place to talk about it. He talked about how his daughter is being bullied at school or people are saying that your dad's a liar, a cheater, and a thief. This is part of the lawsuit? No, I think this is a whole yeah. And then I think, and then he talked about, you know, his college career, how he's got signed letters from two coaches saying that he never stole anything, he never cheated, he never lied. And then he gets into, and then basically laying out an entire conspiracy against him by everyone in golf, media, and on the PGA tour specifically, basically using him as this

quote unquote black hat that they can all profit from to create this, this villain that they can then derive all these revenues from hating. It's quite a lot. Which I am giggling at the last part of that. I do not want to giggle at the first part of that, which from everything we've heard, there's legitimacy to, you know, what maybe helped shape him into what he is.

And I don't, that's not a funny laughing matter. And it's not something I feel that very come. That's not funny. And also like nobody would ever wish his daughter would be bullied at school. That's not funny. And also like nobody would ever wish his daughter would be bullied at school. That's not cool either. But there's some serious paranoia going on there. And I'm sorry, there's no smoke without fire.

Like everything that you're being accused of, you've brought on yourself. And that's where like I literally can't believe a word the guy says, no matter what it is. Like I'm not saying that the daughter is not being bullied or that he did not have a traumatic childhood, but when you're gonna frame it amongst things that we know our lies, then how are we supposed to separate out what is true and what is a lie?

That's the whole paradigm of Patrick Reed. Well, it's like one person could have said something to Lady J in the, you know, Carpool line, and then they turn this into this big mountain or whatever. But the one thing that he did own up to, he said, you know, I wish I wouldn't have said, I was a top five player that pissed a bunch of people off. That was the best thing you ever did.

I was like, that was what he was saying. The least defensive thing he's ever done, that was just funny. And that was the one thing that he raised his hand and he was like, I take full accountability there. Like, I shouldn't have done that. I came off, but that was what spoiled everybody on me. And it was like, I take full accountability there. Like, I shouldn't have done that. I came off, but that was what spoiled everybody on me. And it was like, what?

It might have been the cheating and stealing and then doing it on national television. A legend. A couple times. We saw two of them. I don't, but a legend stealing. Okay, yeah. A legend. Just trying to keep you off of Larry Cleamons, right? Oh, that's true. A legend, a legend, a legend. Mind if I put my finger in there?

And there was no mention at all of the incident out in at Tori. So anyway, Rafa Cabrera-Bao playing well, Frankie Mullenari, Billy Ho would have expected a little bit more out of him

this week. Good defense though. Decent defense, I think. Yeah. You know, I'm sure he was exhausted from going, going to the the football game with with team Rose. Yeah, you know, Chelsea West time and for white nighting for the

DP World Tour on top of the KJ tour, too. That was somebody has we got we got a question in here from Mr. Scotty B is the league that shall not be named the best thing that could have happened for Billy Ho villain to insol, insanely likable almost overnight. I'm not sure if I fully agree with that. I don't know. Insanely like some people agree though. Some people are like, I ride for Billy Ho now. Now he's one of those.

I love Billy Ho. I really like Billy Ho. He's always, so he, he'll always stop and chat to me. I think it's top fella. I look, the whole thing he's been accused of this week of obviously, oh, what? So Billy Horses, suddenly, the Oracle nine, the European Tour, he's played what six times

this entire life. Well, he said, if you watch his interview with me, he holds his hands up and says, look, if this was on the PGA tour, I feel as if I would be able to give more of an opinion. But I've made the effort to go round and ask rank and file European tour players what they think of these guys being in the field. So he wasn't like putting himself up as, you know, I'm Mr. D.P. World Tour, and therefore

this is what I think. He was giving an opinion, having asked a round to inform his own opinion. Can we do good now that we're on horse. So early in the week, this is a tweet from Brentley Romain. It's a Billy Ho name and names. I don't think those guys should really be here. The Abraham answer Taylor Gooch, the Jason Cocracks. You've never played this tournament.

Why you've never supported the DP World Tour. Why are you here? Taylor Gooch quote retweets it with what is clearly a copy paste as the spacing is all off on how a normal tweet would go. So somebody from live, I would imagine fed him this or an agent or something fed in this and he copy pasted into a tweet said billies D.P. Pro career 2013 to today 64 events 58s are majors WGC's and the 2022 Scottish, which is a PGA tour event, six peer DP events in total. I wonder how much money he got to play his first non major WGC P appearance 2019 BMW

one FedEx cup in 2014. He supports what's best for his career like all of us to very much a prop. It makes some good points in there that Billy Ho is not like a resident European tour golfer, but at the same time, it's just, you gave it away with the copy pace, man. It's just a bad look. You can use stats to dress up the last 18 months. So he has clearly the more of late been making more of an effort to be a player, a more of a global player who plays both sides of the pond. As does Pat Reid as well. So we have to, you know, as Tron said earlier on, you know, Patrick Reid is somebody who is not a non-familiar face in European tour events. But it was the more the sort of the goodges and answers who really rub people

up a long way this way. You can use stats to dress up any point. God, you just explain solid with the strokes game stuff. I didn't take it personally, so literally a measurement of how good you are at golf, and they don't want to listen to it. I test, baby. Why did team Rose WD? Was he so torn up about the back spasms again?

Thanks for for for Justin Rose. Yeah, what was his opening line to 74 73 73 Yeah, you know, you're not you're not out of the tournament that stage But yeah, I think he's still got ongoing back issues and that's a watch this space with that one and then what the heck happened to Tommy? Yeah, tell me just you know, starts the 64. And then, funnily enough, he was, he would have been playing with Justin Roe. He was playing with Justin Rose. So he and Shane were playing as a two ball yesterday.

And I think when you're playing as a two ball behind a three ball, it kind of breaks through your momentum. And I think maybe Tommy funnily hard to get going. I walked one hole with his wife Claire chatting away to Claire. And that was the whole where he four potted from about 10 feet, at which point Claire told me that maybe I should just go away. So I don't know if I'm to blame for Tommy's run, Tommy's tournament suddenly taking a turn for the worse. But yeah, he just couldn't

get it going yesterday. And then I didn't even see what he shot today. Shot another 70. Let's see here. He told me 64 73 73. So Tommy's, you know, he's not quite the same extent as Shane, but he's had a sneaky good year in terms of his numbers, but just hasn't strong four decent runs together, or in the case of this week, three decent runs together. And it feels like he is playing good golf, and it's so close, but just not close enough at the moment. But he said a difficult, you know, he said a difficult few weeks, he lost his mom as people may have made it, not known. He was incredibly close with his mom. His family have relocated to Dubai two weeks ago from the north of England. So that's a big, pretty big cultural shift.

I mean, there's a two of the most stressful experiences you go through in your life is losing a parent and a moving house. So he's had to be going through all that while trying to keep his game sharp. He hasn't played since the open. So to go out and shoot a 64 in the opening ride was pretty impressive. And then he just ran out of steam. Is that complete? You're going down the lead.

Last guy I wanted to get a shout out to. He got a sponsor exemption made the most of it. Miss Reddy Peperl. And he finished. He was three under on his last two holes. I think today, yeah, kind of a boy had, you know, yeah, he, he he got 17 birdie 18. He had a couple early doubles today, but salvaged it and now he's in.

He's up inside the top 60 now in the race, he's fallen back in love with the game a bit again because I think he'd fall night in, I'd love with it for a long time. That was it. That was a good one. I think he's been a well at the moment. I think he's been a well at the moment. I think he's been a well at the moment. I think he's been a well at the moment. I think he's been a well at the moment.

I think he's been a well at the moment. I think he's been a well at the moment. I think he's been a well at the moment. I think he's been a well at the moment. I think he's been a well at the moment and more importantly, he's falling back in love with the game a bit again because I think he'd fall in love with it for a long time. That was that was everything. The NFL's opening week action packed. It is just getting started. You can get ready for week two of touchdowns big plays and even bigger wins with the draft King Sportsbook and official sports betting partner of the NFL. This week new customers can bet just five dollars on any football game and get $200 in free bets instantly.

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It feels like a long time ago here, but there was a meeting earlier in this week that involved Keith Pelley, live players, European tour players, excuse me, DP World tour players, whatever you want to call it. And it sounded like that meeting was rather dull if anything. What kind of details did you hear coming out of that? Yeah, so I think before a lot of people were predicting

that it was going to be pretty spicy and things were going to come to a head and there was going to be raised voices and whatever and the biggest surprise, it was all done within half an hour. Keith Pelley spoke for 20 minutes and just outlined what the future of the DP World Tour is and then he took questions from the floor and Ian Polter read out to prepared questions from a sheet of paper which had clearly been handed to him straight from Commissioner Norman and asked firstly about the ongoing DOJ hearing into the PJ tour to which Keith Pellys said, I mean, how do you feel about the fact that the DP world has now so much more weakened thanks to you? And Keith Pellys sort of said, well, actually,

I think we're in a stronger place than ever. And in the years to come, you're going to see that. We can come on to that in a bit more detail in the bit if you want. And then the third question was from, you know, our European hero, the greatest Ryder Cup player in history, Sergio Garcia, who asked, you know, if he could be in the writer, Cut team next year, basically, to which Keith Pellie said, well, you can earn points this week, which Sergio clearly didn't. But we will see going forward. But I mean, I think we all know Rory and Shane Boe said, and they're in due use to me that those guys aren't going to be in the team this time next year. But yeah, the meeting passed without incident and then Keith spoke to the media on Wednesday and was as, you know,

it was really impressive actually and just sort of laid everything out, laid out how upset and disappointed he's been by some of those stalwarts of the tour with what they've had to say so publicly. Sergio Garcia had said that the DP World Tour was on its way to being the fifth biggest tour in the world. Keith just said, that's absolute nonsense. Let me tell you why. If you're going purely financially, it's the third biggest, if we're even calling live a tour.

It's the third biggest, if we're going purely financially, if you're going in terms of the history and the prestige of the events and what it means to win them, then we are the second biggest during the world, which I don't think anybody can disagree with. And you know, he was at times, Jay Monahan, I think, has been very emotional and has taken it all very personally. I think Keith has been more statesman like throughout, and he was certainly very impressive with everything you have to say on Wednesday morning, where does that leave you with Keith just from a purely,

like, I guess analyst position here, what your fan hat on actually. Yeah. Like what? I mean, because I do think that they are severely weakened versus where they would have been. And I was having to say, and like, maybe their best option was to align with live at some point along the way, right? But was that ever legitimate option within the ranks of the tour? Yeah, that was something that he addressed when he spoke to the media on Wednesday morning. And you know, you look red about this multi-meeting, supposedly where the DP World Tour were offered this chance to get into bed with the Saudis. And he just said, he wanted to put matters straight

and say that was never on the table. There was never an offer made. We sat down and we listened to what they had to say, but they were always gonna go on their own. They never made an offer to fund the European tour, the DP World Tour as it is now. So let's just get our facts straight in that one. He made a real point of saying that.

If I can clear, in the joint press conference that he and Jay Monahan did, he did make a point to say, like, they were coming to him with saying that they want to help grow the game, and an opportunity was presented to them to help fund the challenge tour, and they had no interest in that. I believe it was something along those lines,

it was basically like a, I mean, if you want to, if you want to, you know, contribute money to this, we are not saying no to that off the bat, like, we'd love to hear about how you could support our feeder tours and things like that. And they wanted none of that. And that's kind of where the conversation ended. Maybe that was a pretty token gesture.

And he knew that they were not interested in that. But that's where I understood, based on that joint press that they did. But it also goes back to like the PGL, like they had a deal on the table with the European or DP World Tour to, you know, essentially kind of fund that tour, make the, you know, PGL have, you know, a path to the rankings, all that stuff. And then the PGA Tour came in and strong armed them and did the whole strategic alliance thing. So even going back to that of like, hey, how, you know, has he played his cards, right right and it was a really shitty deck of cards anyway. Yeah, I think that's it. He was between a rock and a hard place and I mean time will bear out whether this is the case, but I think he probably has chosen the best option by coupling up with the PGA turrets better to be inside the tent pissing out than the outside of the tent pissing in. And I think being aligned with the strongest turn of the world is the best position to be.

If it comes down to pure finances, the DP World Tour is never going to be arrival to the PGA Tour. The best European players are always wanting to go and play in America. That's been the case for decades. That's not a new thing. People seem to think, oh, Keith Pellies sold the European turd on the river since the days of Bia Starrer some Faldo, European players have wanted to go and play in the States. So let's just get that clear for starters. And from what I understand it, by 2024,

we're going to have a much clearer picture of what the whole global golfing landscape looks like. So we can go into that now if you want. So I was just getting ready to ask you was it is either it seems incredibly obvious to me that the BMW PGA championship would make sense as a co-section event. Yeah. Maybe that sounds dumb because it's the DP world flagship

event. I don't know if that's even possible or if that goes out the window, but it seems like the path, the best path forward for the DP world tour is among these however many elevated events it ends up with. It sounds like from 24 on, there's gonna be hopefully 20 of them. It seems like the more of those they can get in Europe is the best opportunity for a path forward

to create a more of a tier system. It's not gonna be nearly as many elevated events as the PGA Tour, but you're gonna have events where you're getting American guys to come over and play events like this and to help support and fund the DP World Tour for the other events. Which is kind of like what they were trying to do with the Rolex series, right? That they just didn't. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And all the while, the PJ Tour is pumping money into the DP World Tour as well. So I think 2023 is going to look very similar to this year in terms

of January to August, the top European guys, Rory, Ram, Hovland, will be playing predominantly in the PGA tour. And then the DPRL tour will backload their events to September. You'll see the BMW PGA went worth the Irish open, will probably move to September. And I've spoken to the Irish tourist board. They've taken your recommendations on board. We'll make sure it's at a link's golf course next year. And well, actually, it's actually at the K club next year. Beyond that, we'll look into it. I'm so tired of people reaching out being like, oh, you won't understand it. It's the height of Taurus season.

You know, one of these courses is one of hosts. I'm sure the Irish open becomes a coastline action event. They'll take it. It's the height of Torah season. You know, well, one of these courses want to host. I'm sure the Irish open the Irish open becomes a coastline action event. They'll take it to proper links golf course. So I think 2023 has a sort of bridge to 2024. And then in 2024, you're going to see this much more streamlined aligned and strategic alliance. And where it's been explained to me basically between January and the end of August, a lot of these are a lot of these are a lot of these are a lot of these are a lot of these are a lot of these are a lot of these are a lot of these

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are a lot of these are a lot of these are a lot of these are a lot of these European territories as in Abu Dhabi can be one of them, Scottish, Irish, went worth whatever. And then the other 15 will be those PGA tour events where the purses are remaining the same, but now guys are suddenly in a field where they've got a much better chance of winning and their qualifiers for the big events. So you finish top 10 of the Honda and it gets you into Bay Hill or I don't know if I've got that chronologically the right way around, but you know, it gets you into the next elevated event. So 15 and 15 on much more of a sort of joined up thinking between the PGA Tour and the European Tour, which I think suits everybody really. The European Tour is getting money pumped into it by the PGA Tour. It's getting Americans are here for some of the bigger

events. The lesser Americans will probably come over for lower ranking DP World Tour events as well. So I think everybody's happy. It's one step towards a global tour, obviously, which I think is the inevitable step. I think it makes a lot of sense. And what did you think, I guess, of the first co-sanction PGA tour DP World Tour event? It's got to show Scottish Open this year, how that worked out with simultaneous, it's not a WGC, but it's simultaneous FedEx event and raced it to buy event. What did you think of how that worked and how that copy forward? I can't believe you're going to do the barracuda like that too. The barracuda was played simultaneous to the, to the Scottish Open.

That was also a good sanction to have. Help me out, help me out here, JB. See what I'm dealing with. I think a lot of, you know, a lot of the bread and bosser players, the, the rank and file players in the European Tour may have had a bit of an issue with some Americans coming over and taking spots that would previously have been theirs. But like, dude, the option is they either come and take your spots for this one event or the tour just ceased to exist.

Right. They're in the bottom side. Right. So, you know, the PJ tour again, the PJ tour pumping money into the European tour night. And, you know, the flips are that coin is they're going to want their players to have some spots in your events. I think on the whole,

it was successful. And even though Renaissance isn't a very good golf course, it was a way of preparing for the open for a lot of players. So, yeah, going forward, we're going to see a lot more of that. But the flip side of the coin is that European to players, there's nothing stopping them going over and playing in events like the Honda or the John D or whatever, these events that aren't elevated events

on the PGA tour. And the top 10 get a, get a, you know, automatic path forward. Like, so, so this year, Adrian Moronk, who's currently eighth in the race to Dubai, Thomas Peters is sixth. Like they're guys like that that, a benefit of not giving away as many tour cards through whatever you finish on the PGA tour in the prior year is that you can do creative things like this. And I don't think it's fully registered with a lot of people. How different golf is going to start looking here very soon.

I mean, live aside, I'm saying the DP World Tour and PGA Tour 23 is gonna be a transition year and then in the 24 it's gonna look very very very different and feel very different I have a feeling now unfortunately the TV products gonna be probably pretty similar But but what I think a lot of people are missing really the James hands of the world are missing is that, you know, regular players are being looked after as well. You're playing in events which has still got the same prize pot against a field where you've got more of a chance of winning, which as we all know is life changing in terms of the exemptions of brings you and it's going to get you into those elevated events, which have not have bigger purses as well. So, you know, I think they're looking after everybody as best they possibly can and they're rewarding the top guys, which was, you know, something that they

have to do. I think we could we could fill up a three hour podcast with all the things that James Hans missing. There should be a don't be a James Hans should be a rule for every rank and file player on both tours. Don't be a James Hans.

Don't assume the status quo was even on the table and an option going forward. I don't think people realize how close to the the brink of existence both of these tours were and maybe not quite literally, but in the way that their funded instruction currently, yes, quite literally. I want to go to what it was. Was it two or three podcasts ago when you guys were just reading like the James Han quotes? Yeah. I was listening to Paul while driving on my car. I genuinely have to pull over to the side of the road because I was worried about crashing because I was, my ribs were hurting with laughter so much.

Just like, how can somebody miss the points? How stupid can you be? But it tells the story. That guy is on the board. Like that guy is missing the point that wild man and on the board it really tells the story of how we got to this. Jamie speaking of ribs. I like to talk about Rory's comments. Solid A you were thinking he was going to be much more. Same the segue by the way. I mean, that was really good. Yeah, we planned it. Yeah, my source over at the BMW PGA was telling me

things were going to get getting ready to pop off. And they really didn't. I don't know who that source possibly could have been. But yeah, Rory didn't throw as many jabs as maybe we thought. But Rory asked about by some journalist put a microphone in front of his face and said, I wouldn't say I've got much talking about the live guys. I wouldn't have much relationship with them at the minute. But if you're talking about the Ryder Cup, that's not the future of the Ryder Cup team. They've played in probably a combined 25 Ryder Cups, 30 Ryder Cups, whatever it is. The future of the Ryder Cup is the

Hoi Gards, Danes Twins, Rasmus and Nikolai and then Bobby Mack, meaning Robert Mack, a tire. Whoever else is coming up like they are the future of the Ryder Cup team. That's what that's what you should be thinking about and talking about. Hell yeah. Yeah. I mean, that what that's what you should be thinking about and talking about hell yeah. Yeah, I mean that that that press I wasn't in that I wasn't in that press conference, but there were some just brilliant little one-line singers from Roy in that press conference as well. Like does he ever see it time when the guys are playing DP World Tour Golf again? He said they can always go through Q school and just a couple of absolutely brilliant what I was asked about, you know, going toe to toe with him on Sunday and said, well, they'll be pretty tired for that stage go through Q school. And just a couple of obviously brilliant, what I was asked about, you know, going toe to toe with them on Sunday and said, well, they'll be pretty tired by

that stage because it'll be the fourth day. It ended up being the third day anyway. So that one didn't land as well, but Rory was was insinstational for him. We might need, we might need to, you might need a cool few of them. It's not a stand up routine, right? We're going back to the well. He's got, it's, it's, we're pretty far into this, right? The 54 whole jokes. They, they kind of write themselves out this point, but I do appreciate the effort of the jazz. Can we finally do Sergio guys?

Yes. Trying. Yes. Trying big texts. I got it. Still a couple things for me. I'm an Lynch's article. I guess he had a quote earlier in the week that said, what I'm going to do is support the European

tour. And that's all I can do. Whoever doesn't like it too bad for them. I assume that means about him being there despite being a live player. Shoot's an opening round 76. And when play gets, he finished his round on Thursday. And he was already done when it was called on Thursday. But then play was called for Friday with draws. No reason given.

I still don't think there has been a reason given if I may say hook him. He was not the only player to withdraw, but he was the only one that did not give a reason as I understand. And he shows up on college game day on Saturday at at in Austin at Texas. Scotty Schuffler collected his player of the year trophy. That's exactly right. And yeah, it's part quite a lot of people. It was a career achievement award, if you will, for Sir Joe Garcia to just pull such an asshole move, the disruptive move that we were talking about earlier

to take up a spot and then withdraw after one round. Yeah, I wouldn't call that supporting the European tour. It's just, I mean, what can you say? Like disappointing, yes, surprising, no. He has got a track record for being a pet-chillant. That's the perfect one. That's a pet-chillant. Pet-chillant, dickhead.

Entitled little man, child. He's got a track record of it. And just, I mean, it's one thing with drawing, and I just think, even with drawing from a tournament, unless you're injured, I don't agree with. You know, he shot an opening round 76, Minruli shot an opening round 76, came out yesterday, grind his ass off,

and shot a 62. I won stage today, he was 12 under par, he was tied for seventh, the four holes left to play, he played a par, last four holes, but still, he came out and did what you're supposed to do, which is be a professional golfer and do your very best. It's a lack of professionalism, and we've seen it so many times

from Sergio Garcia and I throw it his career. And it makes me so angry and really sad as well. Like when he burst onto the scene in 99, that youthful exuberance, cutting that shot around the tree of Alhalan running up the fairway and fast forward to Brookline and his first rider cop and like you just there was something so exciting about it and you find yourself rooting for him. I felt I shared his pain with all those near misses and major championships. I was so delighted when he finally got over

the line at the 27 Masters Christ even recently as a year ago I was so delighted when he finally got over the line at the 27 Masters. Christ, even recently, as recently as a year ago, I was rooting for him so hard, whistling straights, and just like so happy to see him that he still had it in the He DeWriter Cup battle. And no, like, I just have no time for him at all. And and that is, I sent him that this felt by a lot of players as well. A player who shall remain nameless said to me this week, pretty much quote, you know, I just feel like an idiot because for so many years, people will say to me,

why are your friends with Sergio, he's an absolute dickhead. And I would defend him and say, no, no, no, he's misunderstood. He's actually all right once you get to know him. And now I've been proven wrong and they've been proven right because he is an absolute fucking dickhead.

That's pretty much a quote that a player gave me this week. And it's just, it's one thing with drawing, as I said, it's another thing then having the goal to be photographed and be giving interviews at a Texas long-horns game the following day. I mean, the optics of it are so bad, have some fucking decency.

All the people pointing out that, you know, oh, it's okay though, he lives in Austin. We're like, what the fuck? You're missing the kind of missing the point here. This was he was playing a tournament. Yeah, I know. Exactly. I'm going to give it to him.

He lives. If he didn't want, if he wanted to play live and wanted to be home for more UT football games that don't show up at the BMW PGA, it's that's an AIMAN's article really hammered this home to me. He said, you know, referring to when he said whomever doesn't like it too bad for them. AIMIN said, the them for whom it was too bad included the many competitors who objected to the presence of 18 live members in the field.

The DP World Tour itself, which made clear the live outcast were in only under legal duress and the luckless players on the alternate list who were denied 18 opportunities to compete in their tours premier tournament. Garcia's profess support of the DP World Tour has never been much in evidence at its flagship event where he has only appeared. Guess how many times in the last 22 years? Two times. Two times in the last 22 years. On his last showing in 2014, he quit after one round.

If nothing else this week indicated how little he has changed in the intervening years. And the first alternate last guy out was one of his countrymen, who's a good friend of John Roms. Yes. I'm sure went over really well with with with with. I'm afraid of Garcia Herradia, who is, you know, a 40 year old journeyman. This is a rookie year on the European tour, I think. He only got his card from the challenge chair. He's 13 spots away from keeping his car to the moment. So look, he needs all the starts he can get

to keep holding that European tour car. And look, I've had a lot of people say to me, oh, you know, he should just play better than, and look, there is an element of truth to that. It's not a charity golf, it's a meritocracy, you're not supposed to fall in your sword just so somebody else can get your spot. But if you are going to take a spot in the field, have the decency to actually play the tournament rather than using it as something to just be disruptive and make yourself a nuisance and then piss off after shooting an opening round 76, pathetic.

And I think, I don't know if you boys have read the John Hogan article as well today, but just the last line of the John Hogan article is great golfer he may be, but as a man, Sergio Garcia is a huge disappointment. I think I'm pretty much sums it up. Disappoint. What was, can you remind me what he said in the meeting at the PMW? Was that in May? Or was that right? I was June. So that was it would have been the week before the live Portland event, two weeks after the Centurion event, I think. That was the BMW International Munich. And basically, he said to Bob McIntyre in particular, but there were a number of people in the locker room.

He was basically just saying, this isn't word for word, this is the gist of it. You guys are all fucked. The European tours fucked. That actually is word for word. If I may say, is that word for word? Okay. Tor is shit, you're all fucked. Was the quote, I believe that has been reported in multiplications.

I don't even know if we covered that one, it happened because so much stuff was happening so fast. Sergio flew off the handle shouting, this tour is shit, you're all fucked, should have taken the Saudi money. Bob McIntyre was there and was disgusted. Oh God, this dude. He's had plenty of time to mature

and it just never happened and it's not going to happen. All right, we've seen it way too many times. He says who he is and it's still just amazing how the links he will go to be this big of an asshole. I just love, I love that, like the picture of him as a Texas fan. Just the hookum, just hanging out around Austin, probably on Seik Street. Just like what a dickhead man. So let's say you had 10, you had to fill 10 spots.

And the only two, you know, the only two guys that you can fill those spots with are polter and Sergio. How many how many out of those ten are you going with polter and how many of those ten are you going with Sergio? Expanding that to me again. So just say all right like basically if you had to you know vote on those guys How many votes are you given to Sergio for like? Yeah, to put some puts like points behind those, those guys, you have to give out 10 points, you know, as a pro.

Who you prefer, and who you prefer, you have to give 10 out, divide them up between those two, how would you divide your pro? Me, I mean, you give me, I wasn't sure where you go with this, and now I'm equally interested. I think, Polters, I would say Polters mostly harmless, like a pretty big dick.

So, and that's kind of a, anytime, anytime, anytime I've had any dealings with both of them, like in the flesh, Ian Polter has always been very pleasant to deal with. And you know, there's now a bit of when the red button on the top of the camera goes on, he sort of performs and he is slightly different from the person that you see off camera, but and there is an Ian Polter story today, which I'll tell you about as well.

But any time I've ever dealt with Polter, he's been pleasant to me. Whereas any time I've ever stopped searching for an interview, he's kind of been a bit of a dick. And I've thought to myself, because again, like a lot of young, as young, Sergio Garcia is pretty much the same as the Spanish. The young Spaniard.

But a lot of the younger guys who I would know in the European tour, Sergio was almost as much of a hero to them growing up as Tiger was. For all the reasons I just listed before, he was fun to watch. He rooted for him. He wore his heart and his sleeve. They loved him. And so I wanted to like Sergio,

and every time I'd ever stopped him for an interview, I'd kind of come away from thinking, is he a bit of a dick? Or have I just maybe got him on a bad day? I'm not realizing, no, he actually is. Yeah, not just a bit of a dick, he's a massive dick. He was on the podcast maybe three or four years ago, and I was trying to figure out a way to ask him,

like how would you explain the evolution of your relationship with American crowds, which is kind of basically my way of, the innocent way of asking, like you're an asshole and you've been harassed over the years, like how would you, how have you matured? And I denied that he ever had a bad relationship with American crowds. I'm like, do we all saw a Beth page in 2002?

We saw you flicking people off, we saw them counting how many times you were re-gripping, cheering for your bad shots. Like, let's not pretend here. And that was my little teeny tiny glimpse into like, what kind of reality that guy is living in. And you're not looking back at the years, there's been so many warning signs,

there's been so many little tell-tale moments where, you know, and I'm not just talking about like, you know, the spitting and the cup and smashing the bunker with his sandwich in Saudi Arabia of all places, hearing a part of the Greeks. You'll remember, you'll remember the bad blood between him and Podrick Harrington in 2008, I think it was, where, and that other time, I was like, oh my gosh, how dare Podrig say anything about the golden child of European golf, Sergio Garcia. Podrig's basically issue with them was, he's got all the talent in the world.

He's got more talent in his little finger than I've got in my entire body, but I absolutely work my bollocks off and I grind to get the very best out of myself. And that's why I'm a three time major champion. And he'll never be a three time major champion because he has all this talent and he just doesn't care. And I think that's that's born out, hasn't it? Like what wall a talented golfer, but there's no way he's as professional as the rest. If

he had the same dedication as Tiger, for example, he could be a multiple major champion by now, but he just zero fucks given and zero fucks given when it comes to this latest incidents. Well, he probably won't give a shit that his car dr's being dragged with the mud again. There's there's more to that podrig story to which someday I think we'll probably get out there and there's there's some good details that we all of this we didn't even talk about him being his racist comments towards tiger at the players championship. We just keep going. I feel like we need to to re to redo some of these live teams. The fireballs need to be P. Sergio. All the villains. Yeah, we need to get them on the same same school. Bryson Cole and the dickheads. Just the dickheads. That's just Colossus spade is

paid. Do we need to get you out of here for the Packers game? I know we do. So good. Last thing I had on my list with you is the Pulitzer Billy Hoker fuffle in the putty green Which that that seems like so long ago now that it it are they trying to spin that as like a joke or they made it as a parody now Yeah, but even when I saw it to be honest even when I saw the video I kind of thought That could be they could be talking about anything there I mean, I don't it didn't look to me like there were raised voices or anyosity. It was after I'd spoken to Billy and Billy had already said that he'd, you know, he'd been chatting away to Paul Terence, the two of them are absolutely fine. So, I don't, I think there was a lot of, a lot of who-ha, but nothing with that to be honest.

Yeah. I also wanted to get your, your response to the Sevi Cup, reimagined. Yeah. I mean, okay, so firstly, what is the SEVI Cup for some of our listeners? Okay, so the SEVI trophy from 2000 until 2013, I think was the last one was basically our rider cup style competition, but it was great Britain and Ireland versus continental Europe. And to begin with, it did get all the biggest names,

the likes of Faldo, Montgomery, Alathabal were all playing in it. And then towards the end, you know, some of the big names weren't turning up. And it just, it died to death in 2013. They're not bringing it back. I think Luke Donald's been pretty instrumental in that as well. So the week before the Abu Dhabi Championship next year, I think it's the 13th of the 15th of January, they're going to have the hero cup, which will be continental Europe against GB and I again. And on paper, those two could be sensational sides and it could be a lot of fun to 10 man sides. But I know for a fact that a lot of the Shane Laurie's, Roy McElroy's John Rams, the world probably aren't gonna be playing in it,

which makes it more of a chance for Luke Donnell, I suppose, to see some of the likes of Bob McIntyre, Age of Maraud, the Hoi Guard twins, who may well be on the team. Ludwig. In Italy, 12 months from Ludwig, naturally, it goes without saying, I think he's team captain of Continental Europe.

So one, on one hand, yes, great, that's coming back, two massive PR and goal by the European tour, not to have Sevi's name involved and understandably it rubbed Haviway and Stéros up the wrong way to basically just completely reinvent the Sevi trophy but not have Sevi's name involved. I mean, what an easy PR opportunity is just called. Hero obviously are paying a lot of money and want their name on it. Yeah, shout out to Dr. Moonjall, you know?

Yeah, just called the hero Sefi Kup. Yeah, you know, rather than the hero Kup. Especially as they're trying to, you know, re-estab, or kind of re-invigorate the European tour, keep the world tour, make it all about legacy, all this stuff, what better legacy than that conjures up the history of the European tour and Sevi, you know? So as I understand it, Keith Pelley has not reached out to Havibaya Starros, and I think, you know, with these things, if you've made a mistake,

best to own up to it quickly and try to fix it. And I think Sevi's name is not going to be involved in it somehow, and they're probably still going to have this heavy trophy, the iconic sort of Sevvie stance on the 18th green, the Sanandris in 84. So yeah, all's well that ends well, but as for being a sort of shoe-dot next year with, you know, John Ram and Victor Hauveland on one side and Roy McElroy and Shane Laurie McHatts Patrick on the other side, I'm not sure that's going to happen suddenly. All right, man, we're gonna let you go.

We really appreciate you jumping on this week. It was a delight breaking down the BMW PGA with you. You gotta get to your Packers and maybe and or beers with Shane Laurie, which I'm jealous of at least one of those things. Those Packers. A guy on a couple of tweets said that he's up there of the guys you'd most wanna have a beer with

on either tour. So you may have to, Shane guys you'd most want to have a beer with on on either tour. So you may have to you may have to leave us a voicemail that we can play tonight with after a few beers to see if if you can still walk home. So Absolutely. Okay. Cheers boys. Thank you. Always great to chat to you both. Cheers, but thank you very much to Jamie. Listen, when personal finance connects you to both your funds and the stuff that matters. That's money and that's cash app. You know what else is money? Choosing your own cash tag, investing directly into any stock you want. You can buy Bitcoin directly in cash app. I met a couple fellow Bitcoins at our event this week.

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And thanks to cash app for helping us raise a bunch of money on top of Niels 100 whole hike a few months back. On the other note, I had to kind of transition. I didn't want to bore Jamie with this was we got a little TV contract stuff happened today here on this morning's broad. You don't know how that shoot works. We can't even talk about that. I it was I actually this is one where I feel bad for the golf channel and that BMW PGA got

delayed and the LPGA got moved up because of weather and they it was properly spaced out and all of a sudden they had to do both at once. I think a lot of people were mad that they were even showing split screen of the LPGA. I think they were doing the absolute best they could. The problem came when they got their normal commercial load in when they were two tournaments finishing up. We did also say there was a split screen or not even playing through, just a big graphic

that if it was a playing through, they would have been yelling at us. It was the PXG, and it was just a alternative to commercials, which was like a border that highlighted another equipment company, which I won't name again, that was like, hey, this is a creative way to get an ad in that doesn't involve taking your eyes away an ad in that doesn't involve taking your eyes away from the screen, doesn't involve taking audio onto it.

That's, I don't know if there's any future in that in golf television, but that is better than playing through. I had to shout that out. But yeah, it was a tough, weird, more than that. They had both options streaming online if you wanted to. And they both kind of bled into NFL football kicking off. So anyone that only people that were upset about this were the true, true golf. Which if we really want to pitch about something NFL Sunday ticket total disaster today.

What happened? Their servers went down. No. It's their last year of the contract with direct TV. Everything's it's going to go to Amazon this year. We'll see what happens. But yeah, the servers were down. A lot of the games were blacked out for a bunch of people. And people are paying like 80 to $100 a month for this. Well, it's good to say, you got to stop with this because we always try to pretend like this stuff doesn't happen in other sports when we complain about golf coverage. Yeah, Roger Gidell is up there as far as like, you know, mismanagement of stuff. And then, you know, one last, that's money thing.

We got a question from At Dawn Manics. Do you think there are social media accounts being directly compensated to PIMP for live relentlessly? I do, and that's money, TC. I left that one out of that. I breeze past it, because we got absolutely vibing on the that's money section.

But I 100% do. I know we kind of joke about that, but that is absolutely. There's some influencers who popped up at the Saudi international initially and, you know, have done various things on YouTube, et cetera, that you're definitely in the pocket of the performance 54 folks. Kroger Queen City Championship in Cincinnati this past week, we were up there for multiple days. Didn't see a ton, ton of the actual golf tournament. We shot a little Conte on Tuesday that is going to come out later this week.

I believe on hosted a event there this past weekend, we were all out there on Saturday. Best hospitality set up. I've ever seen at a golf tournament. We were missioners club. We were directly on top of the 60. I keep forgetting what we did. The 69 green and 14 green. Yeah. It was unbelievable. I keep forgetting what it is. The 6th tee, nine green and 14 green. Yeah.

It was unbelievable. Good see, tremendous tremendous action. But Alli Ewing wins the inaugural, the first ever Kroger Quinn City Championship Final Round 66. She had five birdies in a row in the back. She went absolutely nuts on the back nine, edged out Zee Linn, who also should have to find around 65. Those two had a duel. Maria Fossi in the mix, You Lynn, who also should find around 65. Those two had a duel.

Maria Fossi in the mix, Solo third. She had to find around 71. She was not close, but got the Solo third. And the other two just kind of blew her away. It wasn't really anything she did necessarily wrong this week. But yeah, Lee six, Marina Alex, Andrea Lee, A. Lim Kim, kind of rounding out the top five there. Yeah, great event.

Good go, of course, they had a ton of rain. They had like seven kind of rounding out the top five there. Yeah, great event. Good go, of course. They had a ton of rain. They had like seven inches of rain in 24 to 48 hours. Beginning of the week, they kind of washed out the midweek festivities. But just since an ad he turned up, it was great to be out there. And they had a skyline truck on site. They had a greater truck on site. Anything you want to say on that front?

We can definitely cover this. I think it's definitely main pod worthy and that a lot of slanderous things have been said about my takes on graders. I am without a doubt team, Jennings. It's not really that close. Private equity ice cream. We had a graders in Columbus growing up

and it was fine. And like it was like, you went there, you went to get ice cream. You didn't go to get graders. Like that was just like the option. it was like, if you went there, you went to get ice cream. You didn't go to get graders. Like that was just like the option. It was like totally fine. And then when Jennings came, it just blew people's minds. And so I've been listening to all these people

tout graders over Jennings, and I can't even like wrap my head around it. We went on Wednesday night with my parents and got a peanut butter chocolate chip, and I couldn't even finish it. Like it wasn't, it was just not even good. I guess fine, but like it wasn't special. And then you guys forced me to get the black raspberry chip.

It was really good. I got it twice. It's really good, but. They're minchaga chips good. If you can't do an average peanut butter, that's a bad thing. I'm not a peanut butter guy, so I can't really opine there. But I feel like Jennieies is like, you know, angel dust infused marshmallows with smells like coffee.

They got some it's like that's a little bit too much. And then of course the the whole the stereo thing as well. I was gone for I was out of the country for that so that never happened in my mind. So, but no, I think it it it seems like this event should be perfect market for it. It should be a great market for it. A good time of year to be in Cincinnati. And I it's got a three year contract I believe. And you know, we we've got all got a lot of Ohio ties. So we just circled this one when it popped up to say we're all going to meet up. And all our parents came in for it. And we had just a fantastic time. And we'll'll definitely be back in the future.

Yeah, I had the whole Cincinnati trifecta or superfecta. I had graders, I had a bunch of skyline. So good. Skyline's so good. Anybody that shits on skyline, no pun intended. Skyline, although I'm not leaving myself off of the four ways though. Yeah.

They're so filling. So four ways like spaghetti with chili and then a pound of cheese on top. Which could I push back? If you don't like skyline, I totally understand. I really do. I like it. I really like it.

But if you don't, I totally understand. I'm like, but the, like the Coneys, you can have three Cone's and it's fantastic. You don't feel great afterwards, but it, I legitimately, every time I take a bite of one, it reminds me of my university, Drunken Nights, getting silent.

Walk up window there. Getting skylight on the way home. That was a bad skyline up there. It was bad. And it's kind of like the Irish and their Guinness taps. A lot of people are like, oh yeah, you gotta go to this one, no, you got to go to this one. No, you can't go to that one.

That's a bad one. That's a bad one. That's a good one. But, and then I had Montgomery in one night and realized you did. And then I had Grippos, both potato chips and pretzels. So yeah, it was, and then Ryan Geist beer, big craft brew scene. We didn't have the roses pizza. It did not have the roses. But the mad dog brewery.

That made me mad tree brewery. That place was a scene. Yeah, that was an absolute blast. I uh, Cincinnati's has grown up a lot since the last year. Yeah, it has. Uh, and yeah, they had a special NLU brew, blue-good juice. Uh, it was a like a tropical kind of West Coast style IPA. Fantastic. So we appreciate the hospitality there. We played Springfield Country Club. I, that's like uh... it was a uh... like a tropical kind of west coast style i-p-a fantastic so we appreciate the hospitality there we played springfield country club i'll that's like up there top three top four unlike courses i could play every day for the rest of my life up there with like

ealy and uh... you want to say about the setup that was a lot uh... that was a lot it was close to the rolling green day of balls de-greening anding and impossible to put near up near some of the holes. It was a lot. That's a normal day at its Springfield. There's a lot of those greens.

There's probably six to eight of those greens that, you know, plenty of people I'm sure listening to this podcast have played US Open Sections out there. There's plenty of spots on those greens where like there's not an easy hole location. We had three tough hole locations like out of spots on those greens. We're like, there's not an easy hole location. We had three tough hole locations like out of the ordinary. Yeah, it was, maybe if the greens don't stimp at that speed, it's more playable, but it was very much of like,

I would hit some to 15 feet and like, okay, well, I would have 20 feet coming back. No matter what. If you went back and played that course again and knew the slopes, you'd be like, oh my god, this is so fun. It was really hard to play blind. I would, we all agree that if we would,

knowing where the pins were in hindsight, like you at least know where to play and how to strategize, but it was very, very hard to play blind. It's just a tough golf course. It's a mint condition, Chad Derell and Jake Houston, a whole staff there had just, appreciate the hospitality. I just love that place.

You should have listened to the crash course podcast. We did. Well, we couldn't tell where, yeah, you just can't tell where the pins, when the greens are sloping greatly from black back to front and the pins in the, in the front, and there's a false front, there's just like nowhere to hit it. There's no way to miss. And I've learned that. The Ross man.

Very, very long. Anything to say about the international team picks, C. Wilkim Taylor Pindrith, K.H. Lee Christian Bizzadenhut, Cam Davis and Sebastian Munoz, and he snubs in there. Yeah, I would have liked to have seen Ryan Fox get a look. Who you taking off? Timmer. Good question. Well, Cam Davis was maybe a little bit of a surprise, but he's, he's played well. Good player. And I think Quill Hall was probably a fit bit of a surprise, but he's played well. Good player.

I think Quill Hall was probably a fit for him. Conor's is obviously. All right. He was not. Pender's the pit. Yeah. Pender's played really well. Pender's a great, great fit for the course as well.

I wish Minwool Lee was playing like a he's not really a PGA tour player, so I doubt they're going to look at him. But like saying with like Ryan Vox, I'm sure that's why they gave the benefit of the doubt to somebody else. Mooney was just kind of cool to off a little bit. I think he's one that you may want to. But then again, it seems like they've kind of got pods of, you know, you've got the Korean guys, you've got, you've got a couple Spanish-speaking guys in Mido and Munoz, you got a couple of Canadians now with Cory Connors and Pendrith. So it's, you know, you got a couple of Canadians now with Corey Connors and Pendrith.

So, it's, you know, it seems like there's a little bit of a little bit of a pod system working. And you know, if, if, look, I empathize with Trevor Ellman, I think he is very well documented how little of a pool he had to work with. I think there are no snubs in a year like this where you lose, I mean, guys, four, five, six guys off the team that would have been on it. Like if you, if you're not in the top 16, 17 or whatever, it's kind of hard to call anyone a snub, but he has gotten, there's a, like a good, solid case for pretty much all of them.

Like, Cam Davis has been, again, I know, you know, this borers people to death, but a positive one point zero, one point, oh nine. I hit a really good stroke. Gained guy over the last six to three, like three to six months. Like dudes that have been playing really golf on the back half of this year. Taylor Penderth, especially has been one of the best, you know, players in all of golf. And he absolutely melts the ball. Oh, I mean, he's the third best player over the last six months on the, on the international

team and over the last three months. So there just wasn't a whole lot to add really. I mean, it's, there wasn't a dude that has been playing great and over the last three months. So there just wasn't a whole lot to add really. I mean, there wasn't a dude that has been playing great golf over the last three to six months that they did not add. And then, I mean, I guess like, like, Bizeid and Ho, CWU, but they're both, I don't know, they're both kind of seem like guys

that kind of punch above their weight. I don't know, I was fine with them. They're, you know, it is what it is. Still, you think the international's have a chance? I, I, listen, I think it could be a definite, a definite miracle in a situation. Okay. In the fake Queen City.

You're the United States Lex, Colin Moorakawa, Jordan Speeth, Max Homa, Billy Horschl, Cameron Young, and Kevin Kisner. Big couple of weeks for the pro, Max Homa, Billy Horshaw, Cameron Young and Kevin Kisner. Big couple of weeks for the pro, Max Homa, defending his title at the four-tonet this week, out in Napa, and then his first team appearance. I love the Horshaw, I love Horshaw getting on.

Thoughts on Kisner. There is, it's a unique year, and that there is not a prospect sitting there that I'm screaming, hey, this guy is a big talent and we need to get him on the stage. If Zalatoris wouldn't have gotten hurt. Zalatoris would have been on the team for sure. So it was going to be like the easiest possible six picks because Zalatoris was going to be an automatic qualifier.

So who was going to get bounced if Zalatoris was on? I forget who the final points qualifier was. But it was, it was going to be really easy. And then when he, you know, when he got hurt, it was like, okay, is it Sahtagala? Is it Aaron Wise? Like there, you know, is it Scott Stallings? There wasn't anyone that was like,

Hey, I think this guy is part of the future of American golf. He's got to be on the team. So they took Kisner. I don't think Kisner, we know Kisner's got that dog in him. Okay, that's well documented. And I know he finished very well at Quail Hollow the 2017 PGA.

I still don't think he's a great course fit. I also just, this presence cup is not gonna be close, so I'm not gonna waste any energy getting even remotely upset about it. And I will say, a positive in the column is, Kisner is an option for next year, depending on what the Europeans do with that setup at Marcos Samona. He should be in the conversation.

He should not have been in the conversation for Whistler Straits, for reasons that are extremely well documented here. But he would have been great in France, in hindsight, like that golf course, he would have fit the profile for that golf course. And does he fit the profile for Italy is a question That is outstanding and I I don't mind the pick in that regard I don't think he needs the experience necessarily, but like kind of feel it out in team room I don't know these guys all know each other really well

It's he's a known quantity and it it all adds up to me in this scenario is does this game scream quail hollow to me No, but it makes sense. I'm okay with it. I tell you who really fell off. DB straight Vibon. Yeah, he was hurt, right? And then he's not been very good. But even then, it's just kind of weird to see him

so far down the list, I guess just being hurt. Kind of surprisingly, one other guy that I think would possibly be a good fit on the US team or just to try out because he doesn't seem like he's like his game's not going anywhere. Aaron Wise. Yeah. He's had a really steep good year.

Awesome. Awesome year. It is. That is the like if we're looking straight talent wise like I you know I think that makes more sense. He had at the same time probably a career year for him. Who knows? He's had a lot of town. He was NCAA champion

and, you know, not a ton has come from it to this point, but I'm just not shouting out one from the rooftops, right? It makes sense. It would have made sense. I think it would have probably come down to those two, but it was an obvious 12th. I think Kizner makes a lot of sense. I don't know what would have happened if, you know, if there wasn't, you know, DJ Bryson Brooks all gone, who you bump off, right? I'm guessing Brooks, as of now, Brooks would not be on the team if I had a choice. Bryson as well, obviously, with the entry, DJ, I would definitely still take on this team. Gooch could have been an interesting play.

I would have absolutely put each other in. He's had a fantastic year. I don't know. This president's cup is going to be, I hope we get some fun, some drama, some action out of it. It almost always does give us something. I mean, 2017 was an incredible beat down. 2019 was obviously outrageously fun with the fight. And the US was almost down nine one in a, in a role model. A role model. What were they down that after that session? down 9-1. You know, at Rome over. At Rome over. What were they down after that session?

That's a good question, but they were like two puts away from two really makeable puts away from being down 9-1. But that was the difference in like a firm, fun variable adding all fours. Yeah, in Quill Hall. Yeah, this is not trending towards any kind of sign of an answer. I just, I think the Korean guys got to play well.

KH Lee's a dog certified, bonafide, canine. You've got Tom Kim. We don't have to tell anybody about Tom Kim. He's on the pod this past week. You got Sanjay. Who's a ball striking machine? Which is like kind of how I feel about the, with the Ryder Cups trending too to like a lot of dudes that are really solid golfers, but like you got to go beat like Sheffler and Cantlay and Zander and JT and it it doesn't seem like it's going to happen over that long period of time. It's they've shortened the president's cup over time and not had as many matches, which always played in the US's hands. But man, at the same time, the, the home ones have been incredible beat downs and I'd love

to. I'd love for it. I'd love for us to get to the quail hollow and just see like a totally manipulated golf course. They brought the rough in the US throws a couple back exactly screws themselves with the setup. That would actually be maybe good for the long term health of it But man, I think they're gonna have to

Re-evaluate something about this thing going forward after this one and just doesn't give me very excited to go to royal Montreal for the next iteration You can have the Canadians all over you for that. Yeah, which come come get it Canada Looking ahead PGA tour returns this week at the Fortnet as well. We have Rich Harvest Farms live Chicago and we wrote right at the president's cup week, but you're excited for Rich Harvest Farms? It's the live just outside Chicago. I, you know, I, there's that outrageous hole with the shrubbery in front of the T-box. I just remember it from the NCAA's seemingly bad golf course. Outrageously bad golf course from what I could tell, but that's going to be a couple

dual screening, I guess, for next week. Now they're going up against football. Yeah. They got their weekend on last week, and we'll see how it goes this coming week if there's as much buzz around this one as there was around Boston. One point I wanted to make on the Wentworth that we didn't, you know, it was basically, if I tweeted out the results, going down the lead aboard, if you will, of live finishes, it seems like a very good week

in terms of results. Gooch fourth, Reed fifth, Westwood and a tagway, I don't know if I said that, T-13. Answer T-18, Horsefield T-18, Veeceburger, Harding and Blant T23 Polter and LaRathabaal T32 which he's not live anymore. I can't keep track of who's gotten cut So a lot of dudes. I guess there were a lot of the the aggressive antagonists or the contrarians on Twitter were pumping these results

I just wanted to throw teeny bit of cold water on that there were 14 top 50 50 players in the field, 28 top 100 players, which is essentially the same as the wind. So this was not a, especially, that almost the wind them had 29 top 100 players. They had one more top 100 than we're in the field this week. So it's it's not not an outrageous field this week. So I just that context for those guys, which are obviously still very talented golfers finishing that high is, I think, important. Yeah, there's some, there's not quite as much depth. There's not that much depth, but was I a little surprised to see like that many guys make the cut and play, play that well.

Yes, but also there's 54 holes. They'd have been so tired if they had had to play another round. We know this. Anything else you got from this week? Not really. I think it's kind of just the... It's a quiet week. We can still go an hour and a half on a quiet week.

Yeah. I saw the Niners just lost to the Bears. Oh my God. Really? I'm going to catch so much shit for people. Don't open up Twitter. Not shanny. What else is going on here?

The Steelers and Bengals are in overtime. Oh God. The Colts and Texans just tied. We're missing witching hour to bring you this content. So I hope gives a thumbs up in the Apple store if you are still listening to this part of it. But say it's just beat the Falcons by one. Oh, now he's going down the leaderboard of the NFL. We are closing it. The Jacks lost a heartbreaker. So this is it. Thank you, everyone for doing it. Thank you to see for being here on yet another Sunday. We'll be back next week. We might be in Monday posting and recording next week, isn't FYI, but we'll be back.

I'm going to Chambers Bay. Your home, your place, your favorite place, I think, in the world. Playing there Thursday and Friday. Excited to hear about that. Yeah, stoked. So, well cheers brother, and thank you everyone for listening. We'll see you next week. Cheers.

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