No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 6: Adam Sarson

Episode Date: August 14, 2014

Twitter and GIF legend Adam Sarson joins us to talk PGA, Rory, Rickie, the Ryder Cup, as well as some questions from some readers. Thanks a ton for Adam to coming on and or all... The post NLU Podcast...: Episode 6 (Adam Sarson) appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah! That is better than most. I'm not even. That is better than most. Better than most! All right welcome back everybody to the No Laying Up podcast. I'm your host, Sally. We have for the first time ever on the podcast we've been wanting to do this for a while. He is the operation supervisor for the score, freelance golf writer and also owner of AtomSarson.com. It's AtomSarson himself.
Starting point is 00:00:48 If you're recovered from this weekend yet, it's what we're recording this on Wednesday night, and it took me a couple of days to decompress. How do you stand after the final round of the PGA? Oh, man. It was pretty crazy. You know, the Sunday, I mean Saturday was great as well, but I mean just pretty much as soon as they got out of the delay Sunday morning or Sunday afternoon actually, it was entertaining for the entire what, six, seven hours they were on the air. I thought it was too entertaining. I could not hold 8-12. I could not keep up between trying to read Twitter, fills draining 30-foot putt, Ricky's chipping in. I could not keep track of the leaderboard because the PGA tour or whatever website
Starting point is 00:01:38 I was on was tracking it. It was not updating it fast enough because people kept making birdies. I literally found myself not being able to keep up with all the action is incredible beat beat on twitter was actually pretty useless at that everyone was everyone was tweeting the exact same things that were going on and you couldn't you couldn't keep up uh... you know what and
Starting point is 00:01:59 the funny thing it like it's actually probably i don't we can get into this one, but I mean, just that Sunday was probably the best day of the all that we've had. And it might even go back to what, 2012 Medina, the Ryder Cup? Yeah, I would say 2013. Just in terms of period, excitement. Yeah, 2013, last year's British Open was filled.
Starting point is 00:02:21 That leader board would probably be where I would have that off, but no mean it was kind of like we had this and we talked about it pretty much all year you and I both have any problems with podcast a lot of you've had this year of just nothing happening for the most part and it all seemed to happen at once and I was like I've always said what's interesting is we've never had a real a Twitter tiger major. You know, you want the Twitter existed in no way when he won it, but when the US opened, but this is as close as we've gotten to, no, not to this level. And this is as close as we've gotten to a true, I felt like everyone was watching this,
Starting point is 00:02:59 like, baking my talk last week on the podcast cat about how i feel like you know where i i'm i struggle to talk with the people that really don't watch golf is and that's what that most people but people come up to me in the office this week you know people i don't usually talk about again uh... talking about the pg a week it got everyone involved that's up the most part yeah absolutely i mean the funny thing is that the and i've wrote about this before that the
Starting point is 00:03:26 to me the first big time golf event that twitter kind of took over was that twenty twelve writer cup where i was not even that the non-golf people that i follow on twitter were talking about this because i mean i mean part of that too with the absolutely epic collapse that the u.s. team managed to put on out there
Starting point is 00:03:46 Medina but see I'm allowed to say that I'm allowed to say that I'm American you're Canadian that's an international war crime. I have no rooting interest in the riot and honestly it feels pretty good to just be able to sit back and enjoy just just watching so many great players play you know match play it's fantastic. Yeah for someone that doesn't have a rooting interest you're the most into the Ryder Cup of anyone I've ever spoken to too about golf. We'll talk about the Ryder Cup a little bit earlier a little bit later but where would
Starting point is 00:04:21 you we got a question I don't have a name in front of it, someone wrote into us, where would you rank this PGA championship out of the, in major championships, since the year 2000, what do you think the five best majors since there, where do you think this falls out? Man, yeah, when I thought that question, it was kind of interesting, is I know that our good friend Kyle Porter posted something on this this morning, or maybe yesterday, about the, if he needed the top 10 meters, that's something over the last 15 or 20 years. It's tough because I think that,
Starting point is 00:04:59 when you're so fresh off of something, it's easy to kind of place it higher than it probably should be. But outside of the open last year was still on Sunday, there hasn't been anything that I can think of in the last four or five years even from close to what we saw on Sunday. No, I think 2011 Masters, it was tough. I read Kyle's piece. It was really good.
Starting point is 00:05:27 He made a lot of good points. Like how do you really rank it? Is it by excitement? Are we talking like the quality of the winner, I think, has to weigh in a lot the significance of the event. Like the 2000, you know, so it's higher than one by 15, but that was so incredibly significant that I would consider that one of the best majors. I don't know how I would sell out my top five, but the 2011 Masters as well, we kind of forget just because I'll be completely honest, I'm not stride
Starting point is 00:05:54 hurt of Charles Schwarzenegger. I'm just not that good at the international ball stadium, I know the TGA Tour really well, and I know I've heard of Shortholide, no idea he was one of the top 50 ranked players in the world that he was at the time and he came in nowhere. Pretty much four holes to kind of fill the master from Adam Scott and Jason Day. If that was Phil or Tiger or someone that made that run, we may have that rank up a lot higher but uh... but i think you're right that you have a matter of twenty thirteen british and twenty fourteen p g a since the o eight u.s. open this easily that the best three-month uh... majors i mean if you if you look back on it to you i mean did to kind of go along with
Starting point is 00:06:36 your point about short-salt i think a lot of people myself included were probably think of the exact same way when we use to someone to say that you know point ten right um... i mean you know you know mean you looked at 20 and you looked back on it now and obviously Schwartzville and Eustace are two of the most recognizable players in one eye. But let me throw something else at you too. So the 2009 open, you know, with Stuart saying basically breaking the hearts of every single golf fan on the planet. If you want story, that's got to be there, too, on some level.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Yeah, it's so bitter. It's kind of like the 2012 Radar Cup, at least for me. It was epic. I mean, the comeback for the Europeans was epic, but it was crushing, sitting way that the way Watson lost was just crushing. It's not, it's the story that almost was and not the story that was, it's kind of, it's just leaves a bitter taste and I'm out of the hard time putting it up there. I remember exactly where I was watching it with my dad,
Starting point is 00:07:40 and it was amazing, it was show stopping, and I couldn't believe that that that data I went along on the final grade. I was sitting at work at the time and not clearly not doing my job at the time because I was just I was the loo to the TV and I was pretty much physically ill for you know at least probably ten or fifteen minutes after after that. I mean once once you saw him miss that miss the pot as well he wasn't winning you know it was not one in the plate of at all
Starting point is 00:08:09 that was that was one of the worst pressure but you'll ever see it it's understanding in the next fifty nine years old and half of that uh... uh... it's like some some other ones like you know just looking at actually looking at tiles piece right now but like you know that the ninety nine british 99 British with Van developed, that's something. I mean, he looked at that in his honorable mentions.
Starting point is 00:08:32 99 PGA too with Sergio with his real run was fun too. It's really is so tough because I made an argument a little wild go to that overall The majors that we have last year and if you look at from you know just one through four I mean we we got we were very fortunate. Oh, yeah, what we saw I mean last year's master's I mean the playoff between starting Cabrera was incredible. Yep, you know Just just watching Cabrera on 18 after he saw Scott hit that birdie putt With the mate birdie and he just he stuck it within what four feet
Starting point is 00:09:09 He's so he's soft it too. We walked right after it was talking to it. I mean that was epic I mean it's I And you know and even you know then obviously we had you know filled or that I mean just in real life Marion was great Because just being able to watch an open Marion was amazing. And then even the PGA, like Duffner put on such a ball strike in the split that week that it was, I mean, at the end, I mean, of course, Jim Fierke, as well, I'm sure we'll get to it at some point in this podcast, but Jim Fierke once once again just you know can pose another one but no we've been lucky the last
Starting point is 00:09:49 i mean go back all the way and i want to call ernie and non-worthy champion going like it's a go all it back to twenty twelve p g a you look at the class we've had for major winners it's it not been the most exciting majors but it's with there's no bankers is a time of the traffic that all and i think i mean and ernie kind of stole not stole it but he was given it by by out of god the twenty twelve version of the you know that all the way that far back
Starting point is 00:10:15 to find someone that's really not a truly elite player uh... mean kimers kind of not done to a much of anything since you want to yourself but i think we agree that people can put kind of a lot of that group but uh... it was not been the most exciting i'm on like for me personally like watching kind of in the u.s. up by eight i enjoy that way more than watching uh... lucas clover when the u.s. open by a shot or something like that i don't think i'd rather have a worthy champion blow the field away then
Starting point is 00:10:43 have some you know fluke winner pop up out of nowhere about that. Oh, no, I completely agree. I mean, the thing, I understand the, I understand why it didn't do very well, ratings wise. I mean, you know, we don't throw out Donald Trump's completely idiotic ideas about why it didn't do well. But, you know, people aren't going to want to watch that on a on a general level but I mean just watching him hit pretty much every single ball
Starting point is 00:11:09 pure on the end basically from Thursday to Sunday like he hit why I think he had probably maybe three or four loose shots off the you know with with the irons essentially that was about it I mean he was he was incredible from start to finish and I mean, the funny you mentioned with the slubber thing, I don't know about you, but I was pulling pretty hard for David to do all that we've done. Oh, yeah. That was a very incredible story. I was actually one of the times when I was a tragically underrated major. I don't know why people just tend to forget about it because
Starting point is 00:11:44 what was at stake and how it played out i think it may have been one of the best majors of all time is the two thousand one masters we think about tiger coming off fifteen shot when u.s. open was it eight shot when at the british open and in the bob made dual at the pga he had a tiger slam on the line it was him do ball and michaelson
Starting point is 00:12:04 on the back nine at a gust with the tiger slam on the line it was him do vol and michael sin on the back nine at a gust of with the tiger slam on the line but that it it does get the thing about tigers major ones though is like there it like i mean there's fourteen of them and when you know and people look people always remember you know you know the the biggest ones and obviously the first one of the masters and i said like he he's wins that kind of lost just because he's got so many of them
Starting point is 00:12:28 you know like even even just regular tour stops I mean he's one seventy nine times like it's an absolutely insane number of wins and you're not you're not gonna remember them all like everyone's got you know two thousand Canadian open or the shot of the Dartefires know all that stuff but I mean it's tough to it's tough to remember all of the ones you know whenever he wanted to see it's or wherever it's just you know it's just the way it is with him yeah it's true I mean I mean I think a lot of people you're not a generation were a lot younger obviously back then and maybe didn't have a good retrospective we're I mean we're spoiled growing up
Starting point is 00:13:03 watching all those tiger majors and just assuming that he was going to win and not really understanding the significance of the one habit. But I have a random trivia question for you regarding tiger's majors. Other than Augusta, obviously, can you name the sites where he won multiple majors? I think there's only two. I think there's only two, but I don't like to take that. It's okay, so it's St. Andrews. Yep. You're killing me here. If you'd have noted off the top of your head, it would have sounded like you scripted anyway.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Well, that's good. I actually don't know now. It's Medina. He won 99 and 2006 PGA at Medina. There is no way on hell I wasn't answering that. No, that was a tough one. And then sure enough he was part of that plop two years ago. So yes. Can you tell me who finished second to him at the 2006 PGA? This is one of my favorite pieces. It's the Trippie ever.
Starting point is 00:14:16 2006 PGA. That's Sean McKeill. You got it. And McKeill, so Tiger finished at minus 18. McKeill finished minus 13. Bill was tiger finish at minus eighteen macheel finish minus thirteen bill was inserted minus six you know it's i was at twelve clear
Starting point is 00:14:32 uh... it's i think it was out sick that we can kill one of the second pga by seven shot and maybe he wouldn't have gotten sure by dan jen's on twitter all of the and that's a little bit for those didn't see it, Dan Jenkins tweeted, what was the actual tweet you remember? It was something about how Jenkins was going to put together his,
Starting point is 00:14:53 like, all-time worst major winner for the four majors. And he put Macheal on the West, and I believe he spelled it as H-A-W-N when it's you and not a W in his first name. And Michiel happened to see it and it just went on from there. You didn't watch it up. Yeah, Michiel called him an asshole, didn't he? Yes, he did.
Starting point is 00:15:15 He called him an asshole and then there was some other stuff in there as well. So that was an interesting model for an unfundler. Okay. That was an interesting model for you on Thunder. All right, so I think we've gone this far. We haven't even mentioned Rory by name yet. I joked about, you know, we've talked about just a Tiger perspective, I joke on Twitter about how Tiger, and it's always won three events in a row. One British open British down the PGA. He's halfway to what Tiger did at the end of 2006.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Tiger won those three events. Then he won three more events. The only thing he lost that fall was of course the O6 rider cut piece, which he and Super Tiger couldn't even Super Tiger couldn't save him from. But our buddy Adam, I'm assuming his last game is pronounced sailing from three guys golf at the question You've said he's not buying the universal love for Rory, and I'm not quite sure I understand the question I think he's basically saying you know It seems like everyone likes him, but I'm not quite sure that's the case
Starting point is 00:16:20 And I think maybe he does it's not a big fan of not as big of a fan of Rory But where's your take overall on the way people perceive Roy the media perceives them and kind of what his general perception is? Well, I mean, in terms of the actual question, I'm on the same page with you that I'm not entirely sure what what Adams driving at there, but in terms of in terms of the general perception, I mean, he's a very likable guy. He's very engaged and he's good with the media. You know, he's very much like Graham and Dow on that regard. You know, his on-course play. I mean, it's hard not to be impressed with what you saw the last, not even the last few weeks. I mean, if you go back to, I believe it was October of last year
Starting point is 00:17:08 when he made the trip over to Asia, when he actually started to play well. He's been, he's, I finished outside of the top 25 and stroke play events like once since October, once or twice. She's. It's ridiculous. And you know, this, this whole thing was coming. I mean, you look at what happened last year. I mean, that was, it's a combination of things, right?
Starting point is 00:17:32 I mean, you know, the new clubs, you know, he's going through the relationship in with Laxmiac, and all that stuff. You know, it's, and you know, the other part of it being that, you know, it's pretty difficult to be consistently amazing at golf. Yeah. I mean, like, the whole thing about Rory and how this is now the Rory era, I'm not ready to jump on that just yet. What the only logic being that, you know, there's so many good players now that it's tough for me to just say, you know what Rory's gonna do is you just need to go out there and steamroll guys like Tyler did 15 years ago. It's just not, you're not gonna steamroll Adam Scott and Hendrick Denson and Sarah and all these days.
Starting point is 00:18:17 You're not gonna do that. The scene is not, in 2014, is not what it was in those six. Like there's no bond tailor and bread wetter, you know, knocking down the door on the pdf tour leader board, and we get to be just like, and any I hate, I've kind of done it just kind of to show perspective again on why he's not tiger, but I hate when people do the jump on, like do the jump to comparison to tiger, like on Sunday when he lost his, what do you have a one shot lead going into Sunday, like when you lost the lead, people were like, I saw people on Twitter saying Tiger would have never surrendered that lead.
Starting point is 00:18:52 It's just like, you can't compare, you can't do that. Somebody said that it's too, it's a British Open West. He had a four shot lead going this Saturday and he ended up tied at one point Saturday after the end. I forget who it was. It, say what you want and tie your would have stepped on their threads right there and then boom, he was brought up by six by the end of the day. Like, it's just not a fair comparison. Give her going to continue to do it. I just know he thought it was interesting though how well like he was in the US from not
Starting point is 00:19:22 being an American. And I think that's kind of whatom with maybe trying to get at was you know maybe maybe it's not uh... he's not a university like that i think he is but i don't see any reason not to work with that i don't care to care that he's not american i think he resonates with the american people because i have actually no idea why you have an American people that feel like he's
Starting point is 00:19:42 well-like very well-liked here i mean there feel like he's well-liked very well-liked here i mean there are there are reasons not to like somebody like him boulder you know and there are reasons to not like somebody like sir do uh... you know same but there's all kinds of and there's reasons i just not to like martin martin but i i i don't see i don't see what there is from a from a personal family look we don't know these guys inside of them, obviously, but from the outside looking in,
Starting point is 00:20:08 it's tough for me to find something that you can't like about the kid. The whole thing you're right, though, I mean, it's not fair to compare him continuously to Tiger. It's not fair to compare anybody to him. It's not fair to compare Tiger now to what Tiger was 10 years ago. A lot of that too is a lot of revisionist history to the word play. We said earlier, he won so much that all of a sudden people were like,
Starting point is 00:20:37 well, you know, he used to hit those puss all the time. It's like, well, not really. He did miss puss. In the term that he won, he made those made those parts but he lost a lot of time and so you lost thirty five percent of the majors even in his pride like it it there was a bit of it is they're not competing like you can the good thing for me with tiger was always that you know
Starting point is 00:20:59 he never he very rarely hit two bad shots in a row and what that basically i mean he he he he was always pretty wayward off He very rarely hit two bad shots in a row. And what that basically, I mean, he was always pretty wayward off the tee when he won tournaments. And you very rarely saw him go shooting way right and then make a set or make a set. You know, he always minimized the damage to the point where you never really felt like he was out of Attunement. So that to me was always his greatest thing, where it's like, you know what, I'm still here. You know, I might not win, but you're in a think that I'm still here.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yeah, and I mean, I think it's actually the correlation between, you know, his breakup with Wozniakki and his success that but he's bad. I don't think it's that big of a coincidence. And I think you and I talked about this at some point, but this comes from the information I was studying comes from a very good source in type of ropes, but it's also, it comes basically from Team Rory. So I could easily see this being like a PR spin in Rory's favor, but I heard a strong reason behind why they split up was that Rory was having trouble
Starting point is 00:22:16 making time to practice, whether or not that was you just feeling actual pressure from Caroline, not to be practicing, but basically he was not getting the proper amount of practice time in because of their relationship for whatever reason that was. And his advisors and the powers that he was in his team kind of sat him down and said, look, what do you want out of this life, out of golf, out of this relationship? And he kind of just had a moment where he realized what he wanted and looked at since then, I mean, look how
Starting point is 00:22:46 rededicated he's been to his came and look at the top right. I mean, again, that could all be PR's thing. I don't know. There's tons of rumors out there about what actually happened to that. But I found that very interesting. And if it didn't come from a very trusted source, I wouldn't put much weight into it. But I find that very interesting. I mean, I said it said, you know, I mean, when he won, when he won on the European tour,
Starting point is 00:23:08 when he won the BMW PGA Wentworth, that, like, the week after he broke it off, or the week of he broke it off, I believe, he hates that course. Never played well. He's been on the record of saying he's not a fan of the course and he went out there and he and i mean granted it took a little bit of unraveling on sunday by i believe promised born in shame rory but i mean he's the one out one the same you mean like that the run he's on i mean like he goes on these run he went on
Starting point is 00:23:40 these runs before the relationship of the yeah and run he went on these runs before the relationship of the boss and and i the the consistent the consistent dominance and that that tiger did i don't think we're going to see that from him just because i just know that type of he's no one by the end no one's him but i mean i think i think i don't think that you're going to see
Starting point is 00:24:00 i think you're still going to see walls in the game no play did obvious i mean you're not no one's ever going to keep up the run he's on. You know, he's going to miss cuts. He's probably going to miss two or three in a row at some point. He did get a little fortunate here and there in spot-flash couple weeks. You know, it's just the way it is. Yeah, that's what... It's nothing to freak out about one way or the other.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Yeah, I mean, I think everyone's pretty much in agreement. He won the BGA with this kind of a spg i mean he got a couple good break from the back nine on sunday too it did it did not feel over to me on night if i any stretch i mean i i i was i i would not have been surprised if you finish four shots back on on that so i believe i believe i messaged you on sunday morning when the whole thing was on in the delay and i said you know, I'm not really feeling this for him right now. Yeah, I mean that's and again But he's he's when he's look he's the best player in the world
Starting point is 00:24:51 I don't think there's anyone who's been argued at point And what you said he won with basically his his his be maybe his be minus game like that's It takes a lot of talent to be able to beat the guys that he beats, you know, Phil and Ricky and whoever else with that kind of game So I mean he's incredible. I just I just you know Then the the hype train might be just a little too much just in terms of where we're Well at least with the people who compare him to Tyler and all that stuff, but I mean yeah, you see the incredible There's no doubt. Yeah, I Thought
Starting point is 00:25:24 And we're starting to see this thing I knew this was going to happen as well. Ricky is kind of going through the phase of, he's getting his name on a leaderboard of time and not winning, and people are treating this as a bad thing. I saw, I think it was Alan Schiff next day, that he needed to some Humana or he calls the hope it's not called humanity he needed to win some events like that before he's ready to win a major I don't know. I could not disagree any stronger with that. I think that that's complete garbage. I don't think There's no such thing is it's not gonna do anything more for him It's not because of his poor play on the weekends that did not want to turn it
Starting point is 00:26:07 he's played incredible golf he's been beaten by eight total people in the four majors this year how can i don't understand on the market to visit the bad thing what do you think i look at you look at look at who he finished in the runner up to in these in these majors so he finished runner up when Timer just absolutely obliterated the field.
Starting point is 00:26:30 You know, he finished what? I was T5 at the Masters. You know, I mean, he was never really out of it, but he never really seemed like he was that close that way, but again, still a great finish. And then T2 behind Rory twice, in which he, when, like, probably was incredible. He was, he was ridiculously under par, both, both tournaments. I don't understand what more he really wants from the guy.
Starting point is 00:26:57 He got beat, he got beat three times by three incredible performances. And I don't see how you can look at that as a bad thing to be honest. And oh yeah, C25. Like, yeah. It's still because of New Order Major till he was 34. All right. Like, he's got all the time in the world. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:27:18 It's the same thing that people talk about. There's a lot of hype around Sergio. They shoot a one a major. The one thing that I always said about him was like, you know Jason Duffner is actually people talk about uh... but there's a lot of hype around servio the shooter one major the one that i always said about him is like you know jason duffner is actually three years old and surgery it's like it's like okay look i understand sirge has been around forever but i mean you look at jason
Starting point is 00:27:36 duffner one in my jason duffner is a late boomerie one thirty seven at okall thirty thirty seven and it's like people tend to you know they they lose the plot a little bit when I tell people I want to tell people like Ricky so it's just got to happen with speak too. I mean it's he's not supposed to be out there right now. He's not supposed to be on the tour at all and when he was in the contention that the masters and players that he didn't close the deal then the narrative started again about how he couldn't close. He wasn't ready for that seed, it's
Starting point is 00:28:07 better, and it's like, would it be better? Would he be better off if he was still in college like he technically should be? No, he's proving himself out there. It's ridiculously hard to win on the PGA tour. 156 guys see it up and one guy wins. You can't go, you know, praise the guy in first place and then look way to second place and start taking a hard time to pick up the blue team up fair. It's again, it's the whole, you know, I'm, I'm, this, this is Tiger Swolt, really. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:36 He, he comes on to the tour and he just, he lights everybody up and, you know, he's 2021, 22 running through the best players in the world at the time. And now it's like, oh well, here comes every single young player in the last 15, 16, 17 years. There's been subjective of the same stuff. And it's like, first, you had Dive's like Charles Howell and Pat Perez. He's older than him, but Dive's like Charles Howell who were expected to come out and do the same thing. And it's like, Charles Howell has had his tour card every year for the last 15 years and people think he's a joke. Yep.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Like, they doubted him. I try on. Oh, yes, good word. I try on. I'd love to actually, if someone could actually get a hold of him, I'd love to talk to that guy. He's with A.D.M. somewhere. Oh, okay, well, we can talk about to that guy. He's with A to B. Kim somewhere. Oh, okay. Well, we can talk about him later too, but I like
Starting point is 00:29:28 speech. I mean, he's 20 years old. 21. 21. What were expecting at a best kid? I know. I mean, it's actually, he's actually been very quiet in the second half of the year, which is another horrible sign for a rider cup team, which we'll get here in a second. But real quick, I want to, another, I'm a pretty honest spot again. I'm assuming whatever is on the Yahoo page is just PGA tour earning,
Starting point is 00:29:51 but what do you think career salary for Rory McElroy is at this Windows career? Career earnings on the course. Career on course earnings for Rory. Whatever is on the Yahoo page, I'm assuming that's just PGA, I don't know if that includes European tour or not. I would assume it doesn't. Good word. Probably... I don't know. I'm probably
Starting point is 00:30:16 going to say like 17 or 18 million. 34.7 million. Okay million that's ridiculous that i've been away from that i've been thirty four point seven million okay so that's that's form that's good work that's four majors which is accounted for
Starting point is 00:30:36 uh... the joint i mean he won the money title in twenty twelve like you want almost ten ninety twenty twelve he's getting close this year. What's the other year? He's made $7 million this year. So there's $17 million right there. That can't be the European tour included.
Starting point is 00:30:56 I would have to think so as well. But they don't list the tournaments. The European tour event and the tournament logs there. They only, I think you're right. Did you get bacon on that? Yeah, so. All right, let's move on to your favorite subject, Ryder Cup teams. Huge news. It just came out tonight that Tiger is with through himself from the running before Tom Watson didn't pick him anyways. I don't treat this as, I think it's kind of a funny story. I don't treat it as a breaking news story. Did you think he was going to be on the team in any way?
Starting point is 00:31:32 You know, I've gone backing forth on this more times than I would care to admit, because when I, a few weeks ago, you know, before, sorry, before he came back to Congressional, I was thinking there's absolutely no chance. We didn't know when he was coming back. Then he comes back to Congressional, Mrs. DeCut, whatever. But then he played, he played great in the opening round of the open.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Right? He was in the crowd. In fact, okay, you know what? Maybe he's going to get some momentum. He's probably not going to win this week, but you know what? Maybe he'll figure it all out. Then, you know, so much is going on with him in the last few weeks, that I honestly thought that he was going to be on the team. And the main reason why is basically based on what Watson said on Monday.
Starting point is 00:32:26 He was going through the press conference and the quotes coming out of that then made me think that he was going to take them. He was like, well, you know, I'd be crazy not to consider Tate and Tiger Woods. And to me, it's set up for him, Tate and him, even though I thought it was a crazy idea in the first place. Yes, I thought he was kind of just being political about that. I think if he was going to make the team is strictly a reflection of there being no other option.
Starting point is 00:32:53 And the fact that Phil is 100% in now and that Johnson's in now, Duffner's last guy out, I think Keegan's the only block pick at this point. that johnson's in now toughness last guy out i think he can be only walk capya pick at the spot i have no idea that the other wild card could be mad to because i mean that yeah he pulled out the last term he played in two uh... people don't know so or sorry the pga one of the two camera
Starting point is 00:33:24 where it was PGA, but you need to forget, though, that the Ryder Cup is like six or seven weeks away. Like it's still a way to away. But the back injuries are nothing to mess. His injuries found less serious in duck nurse though. I mean, the tournament is that far away, but Watson FF has picked, and I believe on the second. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:43 If someone's injured, you can you can still replace okay uh... so yeah keeping keeping that like i don't think there's any any doubt about that yeah easy only walk the center i think you can pretty much write off at this point i mean the quote he gave i believe ryan labner had the story of the wall channel last week you know
Starting point is 00:34:02 to do you know he he was often like we might not even ever see him again. Greg, I didn't see that. He said something, he said, I don't know if I don't play, I don't play. I don't know what I'm coming back. I think we can pretty much end any thought until we'll be there. Yeah, I mean I was definitely not counting on him anyways. But you look at the names. I think the case for SNEDS gets better and better every day, and I think they had a great point about, you know, they're both Watson and Snettaker, both sponsored by RBC. They had a relationship.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Snettaker's got experience. You need guys to make putts. It adds up to me. I think SNEDS has finished with twenty if on the point split yeah i i i it's not yet the big excited by the least it's a guy that i know it's been there before i think that matters on international soil i really do
Starting point is 00:34:58 i you know i i go back and forth i'm not a little bit i mean i don't to me to me you take you take the most talent it does. Like, I don't think, and Senneterker could be that guy. I mean, he hasn't done much of anything all year. You know, it's the same thing with, I mean, like, Hunter Man. I don't know where the hell he's been. But, you know, he finally actually played, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:22 a little better last week at the PGA. And, you know, again, he didn know a little better last week of the pg a and then you know again he didn't he didn't the lock snetaker's probably going to get in uh... it makes sense outside of that i mean that the third now with tiger definitely out the third ones of real like it could be literally any one of about ten or twelve guys
Starting point is 00:35:42 and i wouldn't be surprised with any of them i think i'm gonna be surprised no matter what and i i i think like well you know i think i'm like mad every no but you know we we talked about and i know i will great on for the system well why not look at first cap cut yet your preview piece and and kiles preview piece. So you both accepted a win this week, or at least you have them. You have them as one of your pets to do well this week.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I think it's interesting. And it depends on what Watson's thinking. If he's thinking, let's try to get some young guys in, and maybe we'll be ready to go in 2016, then absolutely. I think that's a great idea. But no one wants and i don't think you think that way now i don't because i mean it's not like a it's you don't think you're captain c-like you know that general manager billiard the future like this is watching shots to get the captain you know you've got to get a captain twenty sixty like
Starting point is 00:36:40 i agree he's not going to he's not just gonna take one for the team which i don't miss only think you should i think they should go try to be as competitive as possible. I'm not saying. I don't think it's going to make that big of a difference for the 2016. Who knows where Brooks Katka is going to be in 2016. Just watching the final round of the 2012 Ryder Cup, seeing the names on there that we don't hear from anymore, It's incredible. I just watched the clip of this before we got on the call. I saw Duffner close out of a match. Dustin Johnson close out of a match. I saw Nicholas Colsar, Peter Hansen, guys that I mean, the games are gone two years from. Paul Laurie was on that European team too, I think.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Thank you. Paul Laurie was on that European team too, I think. I believe he was. I believe he was. What about Steve Sturker? I know he's going over there as an assistant captain, allegedly. If Watson wants, if he's looking to win, there's no way that he's thinking, okay, you know what I'm going to do? gonna I'm gonna try to plan for the future he's trying to win this thing yes you know he's picking the guys that he thinks are gonna give him the best shot which basically means that Keaton and Sennacher are
Starting point is 00:37:54 probably in the third guy you know I don't think we can rule stricker out at all I would I would I would lean more towards someone like Eris and much I know we talked about this before. Even Gary Woodblum, like someone like that, just to go out there and just, you know, Gary Woodblum and Eris Enlush, you know, they're potential gamebreakers if they're on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:19 We haven't heard from either one of them in like two months at least, you know? Like, it's just, there's no one peeking right now for the left there's no up and coming up if there was if there is one it's something like ricky or fill already qualified i right more
Starting point is 00:38:37 yeah i mean i could i guess i think any pick you make is gonna have that exact reaction that i just get you but yeah i mean i can see it I don't kneel one of our guys he likes Brian Harman but I I can't I can't quite get fully behind that he's they good kneel and taught both grew up with with Harman in Atlanta so I think there may be a little bit of location by the point we've got yeah i would think is a horrible idea i mean it was funny what web simpson taught apparently he was a guy who's been texting tom was and which the idea of tom was in texan is one of the funniest
Starting point is 00:39:15 there's that's i've ever heard uh... but i mean what web simpson's interesting i just whenever i watch web Simpson, I just think that a sharing just comes in. Yeah, I mean, I can't get that chunk that he had. I'm going to talk right about it on my head. It still gives me nightmares. I mean, I've just seen Web Simpson hit a shot in the last three months.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Seriously, when he came on the broad on the replay in the 2012, Web Simpson was like, when he came on the broad on the replay, the point 12, I was like, oh yeah, that's what we have to think. This is what he looks like when he's shaking Polter's hand after he just got his ass hands on. After a devastating loss. Yeah, I mean, he's 15th in the stand-ins. I don't know how that happens. I don't either. He technically won an event this year you want the uh... what they get it yeah i mean that was literally almost a year ago at this point but still count i was the first tournament i guess that he played in the year they finished seven to the gladiator in third the hunday
Starting point is 00:40:17 and since then he's got one two three four top top ten i don't know if it's third thing to you to at the green berrier I guess that's better than I had anticipated but Yeah, I mean that's not a guy. I really want to go to war with over there like I haven't seen a play Yeah, what about what's your Kevin not?
Starting point is 00:40:41 No, well I bring it up for for two reasons first off we all know that he's one of the most frustrating players on earth deal with you know I mean like I was I was reading the the book on the 91 rider cup you know wore a wore the shore there and it was it was funny like you know burn powder was the who was the captain for the European team said that he uh... you know what were the shorter and and it was it was funny like you know uh... burned out or was the he was the captain for the european team said that he desperately wanted to pair burnard liner
Starting point is 00:41:12 up against the landy wadkins for this for the explicit reason that any wadkins lights the play pretty much as fast as anybody on the planet uh... he wanted to and he wanted to figure out some way to get a line or against him just a frustrating and and funny thing was that on i believe it was sunday send goes he you know they ended up one or ended up in the group directly in front of wagons
Starting point is 00:41:38 at which i had to in general fact i can see already where goes this and i i'm on board you just gave the best reason to pick somebody. If anything, the US needs to start playing defense. Like, I tweeted this out a couple weeks ago and I basically just said, you know, you take kids and frustrated too. You take kid and Kevin and you know, you pair them up with, you know, or even also you could take Ben and Crane too, you know, and just, you know, pair one you pair them up with you know I'm not or even if you could take that in crane to you know and just you know pair one of them with fear compare the other
Starting point is 00:42:07 two together you can force and point at the same time. Just to a certain point where the European just could be because it's pitch black out out. They're just they're just that upset and then you know you pair bubble with Patrick reading there's just a whole lot of anger going on. Oh god this really is going to be a massacre i just i i think i started to get
Starting point is 00:42:28 i tried to convince us that's not it's like the number one guy we have right now is papa like that's our leader that's number one point guy we have one he's going to be an international incident he's gonna he's gonna hit somebody with a golf club over there well maybe it'll be Ted Scott though. So maybe that'll help. Well, the funny thing is, you guys at this level, I understand on paper this looks terrible.
Starting point is 00:42:54 It really does. But at the end of the day, it's match play to crap shoot. But even when the US looks to be the favorite team,'ve talked about, I guess I can't get on board. I know that it's not the right or the right. But look back at the WGC this year. None of the number one seeds out of the second round. All right, Rory wants to be in Paris in Bush. Two years ago, Rory and Tyger both went out in the first round,
Starting point is 00:43:26 the Shane Lattery and Charles Pell. Matchplay, these guys are all so good. Yeah. That, you know, like, in an over, over a full season, or if we're playing, if this thing was stroke play somehow, like, there was, there'd be no chance. yeah, that when when you're talking more matchplay like how much of a difference really Is there between Jimmy Walker and and Sergio? Hey, yeah, yeah anything can happen I agree I just think that the Europeans embrace this event so much But so much more than the US the Americans usually do and that so much more than the US Americans usually do. And I feel like this is the format sets up so much better for them. And the fact that we're going over there with guys that haven't been there before,
Starting point is 00:44:12 and that are injured, or have had down years, or have never really succeeded there, like, Furek. I mean, the only guy I really have confidence going out there right now is Ricky Fowler. And if you have a 12-man team, and that's only one guy one guy really confident in it, I can't talk myself into it. I've tried.
Starting point is 00:44:31 And when that rolls around, I'm going to be face-painted, red, white, and blue, waving the flag. I mean, I'm going to be behind the team 100%, but if you ask me to pick a winner. I made it very clear. We all made it very clear where we stand about that. Yeah. So, all right, you ready to move on to a fun question? Sure. All right, I forget who sent this one in. I'm going to feel bad about this. Look at that
Starting point is 00:45:03 in a second. All right. Would you rather be stuck in an elevator with bubblas in their Patrick Reed? Good lord. I don't think that's... We did get a question from Bud Plug Gonzales. I don't think that's who sent this question. Well, I mean, this hand... That's one of the best Twitter handles on the planet. Yeah, I couldn't believe it. Or the worst, depending on your perspective, I suppose. All right, this one comes from Sarah and Akat.
Starting point is 00:45:37 There we go. So I had to find that. All right, would you really be stuck in an elevator with Bubba Watts and her Patrick Lee? Well, I mean, is Ted Scott in the elevator? Because he is. I don't want to be there with Baba. Well, is Ted Scott in there, then, you're safe? Well, he's going to go for Ted Scott first. Yeah, but it would be awkward as hell. Like, like, like, you can just, you can turn right to Ted
Starting point is 00:46:02 and stick look, hey, we're praying for you. Like, the answer is Patrick lead, and it's really not even close, You could just turn right to Ted and stick him up and say, look, we're praying for you. The answer is Patrick Reed and it's really not even close because I don't mind Patrick Reed. I mean, look, he's very, very high in himself clearly. But I mean, you can't tell me that after what we saw at Valhalla that you would want to go anywhere with bubble wads and where you didn't have a rifle. Like you can't.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Like it's just a rifle is obviously a little strong. But I don't, you can't go anywhere with that guy. Like you just can't. I think for me it would be, I would rather be in there with Bubba because I would honestly confront him. I really would. I mean, yeah, we've made it very clear where we say Bubba, but I would honestly, if I had the chance to sit down with Bubba, I would say these things to his face.
Starting point is 00:46:59 I just think he's a fraud and just a douchebag in general and that he doesn't, he doesn't, his actions don't match his words at all and i honestly think bubble would own it completely if i said that to i think you would he would not disagree with me at all but i would what i talked to patrick read about like i don't even know i don't know anything about the guy no one really dot i don't know when it's an about a mead
Starting point is 00:47:21 i he wears red on sund apparently. And Friday now. And Fridays. Yeah. He once made some comments that he thought he was one of the top five players in the world. That's it. That's all we're going up up there. I don't think there's nearly enough there and really paid up. I'm going to get up the weight in the elevator. That's the question.
Starting point is 00:47:41 We don't know. You're stuck in there. If it's more than five minutes, I don't think I can last with either one of them. That's the convention of the question. I don't think I can keep a conversation going with me if I had to greet for more than five minutes. Yeah, I couldn't stand to be in with either one of them. That's what makes it such a good question. But the other minutes in an elevator with anyone like Matt Kutcher and Jim Fierre either. Well, Kutcher I've actually heard is like absolutely hilarious.
Starting point is 00:48:16 I have buddy of mine, Caddy's at Nierfield Village and he was in his group uh... during the pro-amp and i was a he was a couple of the most kutra like he's like he's the funniest guy i've ever been around the kutra is absolutely hilarious like jokingly being the most cocky person on the planet i can't be basically acting like that you could you would hit a kid of wed shot uh... eight feet and some of the guy on the shot matter that nice shot like that was incredible did Did you not see that shot?
Starting point is 00:48:45 He was just messed with the entire group. He said he was completely shot. Like, Coochers is absolutely hysterical. Really dry, witty humor. Like, foul mouth even. I wouldn't anticipate him that reaction at all. It's funny. Justin Bourne, one of the guys, one of the authorized workers at this core.
Starting point is 00:49:03 I believe he once called him the definition of the human, one of the other, I worked with this for, I believe he once called him the definition of the human sanity pack. That's the, you know, you have to be nuts, you know, that's the, that's, we're ending on that right there, human sanity pack, that creature, that's, that's, we can do. So, all right, yeah, sorry, it took so long to get you on, but I'm glad we got it. Thank you. No worries. Glad it can put a, at least a voice to the name, I know you and I've been talking and hanging out. You're basically some dude I met online so far. So, it's all okay, at least it wasn't on Tinder.
Starting point is 00:49:40 That's true. Or Grindrinder, yeah. Whenever you and I have an outstanding bet, whoever wins the major first, we have Jordan B. You have Hadekima Siyama. The losers got to buy the round of golf. So you were sweating out there a little bit as a master's, but a little bit. Yeah. We're safe for another year. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:02 So thanks again for Adam Sarsson from AdamSarsson.com. You got to follow him on Twitter at AdamUnderscoreSarsson. You probably are seeing us tweeted him pretty much on a daily basis anyway, so I don't know why you're not following, but thanks again for coming on, man. No problem. We'll talk you soon. Thank you.

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