No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 604: Friday Presidents Cup Recap

Episode Date: September 24, 2022

Max Homa! We recap a surprisingly fun day at Quail Hollow, starting with special guest Hunter Mahan. He takes us through his Presidents Cup experiences, getting the call from Jack, a Tiger story, and what it's like to compete on these teams. We recap today's matches, the great golf played, Max's finish, pairings for tomorrow, Tom Kim, Billy Ho, and a ton more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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No way, no way. Guys, in the preview pod, when I said, regardless of the outcome of this event, there's gonna be some fun stuff happen. This is what I had in mind. More so than yesterday, I was a little disappointed yesterday. I was a little worried some fun stuff happen. This is what I had in mind. More so than yesterday, I was a little disappointed yesterday. I was a little worried about fun stuff happening. That was a delightful, delightful day of golf.

Again, you got to throw the outcome out of the window. It's been decided and it probably was before they started. Fun, entertaining and great golf played today. Yeah, I'm gonna echo everything you're saying. I think going back to the preview pod as well, you know, we were saying this is kind of one for the sickos. If you like watching golf up close and personal, you like getting to see new players,

you like getting to see people sweat a little bit down the stretch. This was kind of the tournament that you were hoping for. If you didn't watch it, I know half the world was watching yesterday. I'm guessing a couple of those people took the day off today, but if you weren't watching, you look at the scoreboard and say, eight, two, thank God I didn't watch that. But I think you would have missed out on a couple of things today. Actually, I quite enjoyed it. I had a good time. Randy, what about you? It was much more enjoyable golf. The nature of four. I perhaps owing to that

Thankfully that the Munoz M versus Sheffler burns match was was really doing some heavy lifting there for a while and then we had you know three matches Hit the 18 toll so it ended Very much more exciting than it began. I thought in the beginning, it was a little bit of a slog, but things picked up throughout the day, and we were rewarded with some good golf and some good moments down the stretch. This is usually the part of the show where I try to lean on my experience in these events, and that can get dried up pretty quickly. So I don't know about you guys. I'd like to bring in someone that maybe has a little bit of experience in these events and that that you know can get dried up pretty quickly So I don't know about you guys. I'd like to bring in someone that maybe has a little bit of experience in these events I think four presidents cups if I'm remembering right and if we can bring in from the studio from the green room here

Back on the live show mr. Hunter may hand. He's back. How much golf did you watch today Hunter? I watched the last today, Hunter. I watched the last, um, pray hour or so. I was trying to check in a little bit on my phone or whatnot. But last, uh, I got to watch it, uh, watch a little bit yesterday and then watch the last hour or so today. That's the way to do it, Hunter. Hunter, I'm a little disappointed. You know, last time you, you had the big hater blocker sunglasses on, I was looking forward to seeing what you were wearing today.

I don't want to do some point. I don't want to do some point. So I help help kind of set the scene here for all right, US is huge, huge favorites in this event, right? If you are if you remember this team, powerhouse US team kind of beleaguered international team, how do you get yourself motivated for it? How do you I guess what I'm trying to say is what where is your respect level still for your opponent as you come into this? How do you get yourself motivated for it? How do you, I guess what I'm trying to say is, where is your respect level still for your opponent as you come into this? How do you get internal motivation knowing you should win

and how do you actually go and deliver on it? Well, the good thing for the US squad is so new. There's so many rookies. They want to be a part of the winning. They've seen it, but they haven't experienced it and you haven't felt it. So like listening to Max and Billy out there, those guys are so pumped to be there. And there's so, I mean Billy's been waiting for this for 10 plus years, right?

Like he's, he can be more excited. Max is, you know, he's kind of walking around with all his idols. So watching him on TV is one thing. But when you're there and they're experiencing it, and when you see your opponent right next to you, you do not want to lose them because you know what that's going to feel like and you want no part of that. So these guys, it's really, it's actually easy for the US team. I feel like to get up there and to know that I don't want to lose to these guys in front

of my home crowd and in front of my teammates. I want to prove to them that I deserve to be here and I want to win and celebrate like I have seen and watched and countless times before. I really like some of, I think it was what Davis was saying and, and Azinger was kind of paraphrasing after the fact, but this idea of like, yeah, our record is, is very dominant. You guys were not a part of that. You don't, you don't get any credit for that. Yeah, right. There's a lot of, a lot of new people in there that I, I thought that was a cool motivator.

I'm curious, you know, we'll get into all the, everything happened today, but while we've got you on the show here, what was your first team event? What was your mindset going into it? What was the first match you played? I want to hear all that experience. Yeah, I was driving back from the PGA championship in Tulsa in I think 2007 when Jack called me, I was driving with my kind of teacher at the time and I got the call and I, you know, I think I recognized it was like a Columbus number

so I was like, as I said, is this it? I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't in, maybe a fanboy. You know, weird fanboy calling me.

But I need you. How do your elbow was kind of flying and that final round? I want to talk to you about that. Yeah, no, dude. It's a, you know, it was, you introduced himself as Jack Nicholas and said, you know, well, you know, we would like to be a part of the team.

He didn't really mix words too much. And obviously that was an incredible moment to you. To have him call me and say I'm going to be a part of the team was obviously amazing and then going on Montreal and then I think that moment when you open your hotel room door and you see your bag you're closely it out and everything and see your name on it. It's that's a surreal, cool moment. It's like team events for me are, you know, that's the highest I can get to. I mean, this being a part of it is what I looked forward to. I was remembering just the letter and then, and being actually

was at that Ryder Cup in 99 and just feeling it, all the people. And when you see the teammates and see everyone together, the wives and the captains, you're seeing emotions and you're seeing a collective unit like you don't see them golf. And so being a part of that first team was really amazing. I was completely sort of shell-shocked to be around Phil and be around Tiger and to be around everybody. It was almost too much for me. I mean, I just was holding onto my partner for dear life, trying to feel like I got a point somehow.

I think Stricker and I got a point. And I was just like, so happy to be a part of the team and actually contribute. Because the last thing you wanna do there is, you know, go not win anything. You know, even a half a point doesn't feel like you actually contributed, you wanna get a full point,

feel like you are a part of, hopefully a part of the win. How, it seems like to me, golf fans get 10 out of 10 hyped for the Ryder Cup. Players get 10 out of 10 hyped for the Ryder Cup. And golf fans, let's say maybe get, we'll be generous, six out of 10 hype for the Ryder Cup players get 10 out of 10 hype for the Ryder Cup. And golf fans, let's say maybe get, we'll be generous six out of 10 hype for the president's cup, but it seems like players are at like 9.5, right? There's not like much of a difference when it comes to your experience. Being a part of that team and being a part

of that team room is, is, I don't want to say as equal, how would you equate the two, right? It seems like that it means a ton for the individual players to compete in this even if fans maybe don't get as as hype for the event. Oh absolutely. I think I think it was Christopher Marco told me it's like when you get a part of one team you wonder you're part of every single team for the rest of your career you do not want to miss out on this opportunity to just be around the guys in this sort of environment and it's just so much fun. It's golf, there's not pressure and there's so much pressure but it's hard to explain that it's such a different vibe being with somebody, having someone to lean on and talk to and it's just so much fun and the wives are the caddies.

It's such a collective unit to win something as a unit like that is, you know, it's kind of what keeps bringing Tom Brady back is that he likes to lead. He likes to be part of a group like that and the whole process throughout the week is so much fun. It's really a part to explain what it means. And this is a reward for the players. This isn't like, I understand that it doesn't have the same vibe as the Ryder Cup that has so much history and so much passion involved. This still has a lot of passion and this is a reward

for these guys. They've earned two years of hard work and dedication and even longer than that their whole lives like Billy, waiting 38 years to be a part of this team. It's you can't put it in the words, it's just complete feeling and complete an accomplishment for your career. Hunter, with all that said, how do you view now the president's cup currently? Is it still an event worth keeping in its current form? You know, there's been some chatter

about maybe going, exploring, making it a mixed event, for instance. How do you look at the president's cup now after having played with it, played in it, and obviously in a different part of your life? Yeah, I don't like changing it. I mean, it's still such an honor to be a part of it, to be a part of the 12, right? Because you are a part of history

when you do become a part of the Presence Cup team. So I don't like the idea, I don't like the idea of changing it. If they wanna add some sort of event that has men's and women's, I'm like all for that, I think that'd be great. You know, you kind of look through the history of it. It still has a small only still has a small history a lot of the events have been much closer than the you know 10 one-on-one record

So I don't want to I don't want us to get to you know Jump to conclusions or feel like this is always going to happen. This is just an unfortunate time for it. I mean, it was so close in Australia a few years ago. I was in a incredible comeback by the US. And I thought the international team had a lot of momentum, but definitely live stepping in. I mean, killed any momentum for the international team, which really stinks.

I mean, I think Cameron Smith being one of the best players in the world and fucking Neeming. I mean, there was really momentum, definitely a soft American wave coming up of being some top top players. So that really, really hurts the event and that really stinks. But I think a lot of these guys are getting a lot of experience and I actually expect them tomorrow to play really, really well. I mean, Trevor's going to be able to put his guys out there, the best, you know, itter-ten, and he's got, and he's got to just put out there and

hope for the best. But I think itter-ten, he's got, and he's got to just put out there and hope for the best, but I think it's definitely a shock for the system Thursday, Friday, when you haven't been in these situations before, and then when you kind of get out there and get through it, you know, we saw Penderoth makes some huge shots and huge puts finishing, you know, you put him out first from the morning, tomorrow, and then we're all going to let him roll because he's got a lot of momentum for the team, but I don't, I still think it's a great event, and I don't think what I'm letting roll because he's got a lot of momentum for the team. But I don't, I still think it's a great event and I don't think we need to change it right now. We were talking a lot kind of this week and yesterday and I guess for, I don't know, the

last 10 years or so about how they make teams and all of these things. And I know that probably evolved a lot as you were on the teams and kind of more and more stats came into play, but I'm curious as it relates to your skill set as like a premium ball striker and that type of player, what was, what did you feel like your role was, where did you feel like you were going to be, for some's guide, did you feel like the player you were with was more important, how did you kind of treat it? Yeah, I remember David Thompson, we just melted really quickly to the other alternate shot.

We were great ball strikes. I always looked at as a great ball strike and I always think that people always like that aspect of me and they always felt like that was gonna add pressure to the other team, always being in the fairway, always being on the green, always having an opportunity. And I could kind of mix in with, feels like some different guys, right?

It was easy for me to, I had a calm personality. It was just easy for me to kind of fit into different roles if I needed to be. But it is nice when you develop relationships like we've seen with the Xander and Patrick. I mean, those guys, they'll never be apart, right? They're gonna be together for the next 10 years, you can just book it,

because there's no reason to separate them. Same for Justin and apart, right? They're gonna be together for the next 10 years, you can just book it because there's no reason to separate them. Same for Justin and Jordan, right? You're just like, those are teams and those are unique foundational pieces that as long as they're on the team, and even if they're close, like if Zander's on the team, and Patrick misses the team for some reason,

you're gonna bring him in because of that relationship is gonna pull you kind of forward. And that's the hard part for the international team. There hasn't been strong core foundational pieces that you can always just bring in and know these two together are going to be really, really tough. So, you know, and they, and they always felt like the presence kept always had such an easy going by where Fred, like Jack was there and then Fred, it was just the players had so much input about what was going to go on who we're going to pair together. You know, I know Sean and I Sean O'Hare and I fought to be together. We played junior golf together.

We couldn't wait to go out and play. We unfortunately didn't win our match, but we couldn't be more excited to go out there and play because it was something that we've been dreaming of. And so you just get these pairings and you get these opportunities like San Burns and Sky Shuffler, I mean, they've known each other. They're great, great, great friends. And so you just get to have easy pairings like that. That's so easy for the captain to just throw out there and you get a guy like Max.

I mean, Max, who doesn't want to play with Max and his passion is Billy to just seem like fairways and greens, fairways and greens in the way he's playing now. So the US has a great, I mean, who doesn't want to play with Max? And his passion is billy to just seem like fairways and greens, fairways and greens in the way he's playing now. So the US has a great, I mean, this team, I was looking at this team of day, this team is just so good, top to bottom, but they're so easy to root for it,

and so easy to be around. They had the hardest choice, obviously, for Davis, is who do I sit, right? I mean, Tony Fienau said, it's like, you know, it's like, it's more a cow. It's more a cow. Like, you sat, like, it's like, you know, it's like more cow. I mean, more cow. Like you sat like who? Like you don't want to sit more cow.

Why would you want to sit more cow? The guy's been on fire this week. So I don't know. This is like, David says, I'm hard. He's got so many guys playing so well. And this is such a good team. This might be the best.

I mean, the last year's Ryder Good Team was ridiculous too, but this team and the vibe be the best. I mean, the last year's row to good team was ridiculous too, but this team in the vibe and the guys and the people, I mean, it might be the most fun groups, probably be around. You're got to make your trigger me a little bit calling can't lay Patrick because I get I'm getting read flashbacks every time you say that. And I'm like, wait, wait a second. I thought we kind of moved on from from that one. If you are

Trevor Emelman tonight, your team's down eight to, what do you say? How, what can you, you know, what could possibly get through to a team? What do you even wanna hear if you're a part of a team that's down that much? I would say don't worry about the team, you know, I thought, you know, I thought Phil and, and Phil gave great speech one time at a rider.

I've said the individual like the team if we lose the team, it stinks. It obviously hurts, but you're out there to win your match and that win, that, that W that one point is a real is what is really important for you as a player. I mean, it's going to be hard for us to win. Maybe it is. Maybe it is. And we'll see you tomorrow. But like to go out there and win for yourself and your teammate

in that moment is a really special, it's a cool thing. You get to see that on your record. Just worry about your match. Don't worry about the whole thing. Go out there and win for yourself. Win for your country. Win for your family and your partner. And just enjoy it.

Enjoy being out there. And like I said, I think these guys got a lot of experience today. And yesterday, I think they're going to go in there tomorrow and they're going to be much more comfortable and they're going to be really excited. And it's fun to be on international soil in these situations. You know, this is and this is a learning experience for a lot of these guys. And I mean, it's just just enjoy it. Enjoy not hearing a lot of craftsmen you had a good enjoy the silence when you make a big cut, man. It's it's just enjoy it. Enjoy not hearing a lot of claps when you hit it good. Enjoy the silence when you make a big putt, man.

It's great. It's a great, great feeling because this is a reward. This isn't a punishment for anything. This is, you guys earn the right to be here, enjoy it. I mean, it was six to one and it was all squared. I mean, we had free matches that were all squared. You guys with this close, weren't far away. And I watched it. I mean, the US has made every single shot and put that they needed

to and the international and camp. I mean, they can't buy anything right now. You're really not that far away. Well, is there? I've really enjoyed watching, you know, obviously the international studs are our studs are ready. Some J and Hideki and Adam Scott on those guys. But I've really enjoyed watching Pendrith. I really, I know Cam Davis is one on the PJ tour already, some Jay and Hideki and Adam Scott on those guys. But I really enjoyed watching Pendrith. I know Cam Davis is one on the PJ tour already, but he looks like a stud. I'm curious, I can't really place the arc of your career, how much you had won before you were on a team or not. But did you feel like your confidence level changed

after you got the first pick or how did that impact your career at all? Yeah, it definitely did, making the team and kind of being around the guys in those situations, I definitely kind of spurred me on kind of after I made that initial team and then making the rider captain. I felt so comfortable after making the presence captain kind of going into almost any situation.

So that, it definitely just gave me a lot of confidence to be around big time players and big time situations. And so it was just the incredible opportunity. And incredible, just to talk to the guys and know that they're just golfers like you and they miss shots just like you. You can have the strange image of the best players in the world who just hit fairways,

hit perfect shots every time. So it's just nice to relax a little bit and feel like I've got a teammate to rely on and I can just go out there and play golf. Like this is like I said, I made it. Like this is the hard part is over. This is the part where I need to go out and enjoy the experience and have a good time

with my guy next to me. And we should just go out there and both enjoy and have a lot of fun All right, what's the yeah, sorry, so I if I can oh Boy oh boy what what what's the What's the mood like in those presidents cup matches? Uh, and I guess what I mean by that is are like, is it, you've mentioned kind of easy going a couple times. Is it, are you out there having fun against the international team? Does it did it ever feel frosty? Like what, in terms of like competitiveness, I'm sure it may be varied

by who you were matched up against. But what was the president's cup specifically like for you? I think they were all kind of different, but I think definitely going when we were in Canada, it felt mellow. It didn't feel as intense for some, you know, it's maybe because it was Canada. I don't know. I mean, it just, but Mike Weir was on that team and he was such a magnet for everyone that it definitely didn't have like the just, but Mike Weir was on the team and he was such a magnet for everyone that it It definitely didn't have like the intensity, but going to like Australia was a completely different animal I mean, that was intense and we knew that was the last time they defeated us So there was a lot going into it and it felt you know the fans were very chippy and it was there was a lot to that and then you know

I got to play Jason Day we played in a mean Bill Hoss played him in Aaron Badley. And I made a big put on 17. You can YouTube, it's pretty cool. To beat him. And that was just an incredible moment for me. And then Jason had just, he had just had a terrible Sunday. And I just had to make par.

So it's strange that I was happy I won, but I didn't really want that for him. I rather him played great and beat him that way, but that was a chippy crowd. And that was intense. That had Ryder Cup vibes for sure. I think I've always had good matches with guys. I, Camila Villegas was O and four and in San Francisco.

And I was playing him and I was first out. And we had a, we had a good lead, but I remember Tiger like tapped me on my shoulder on the ride home and he just kind of leaned over and was like, you know, you're, you're one of the more important matches. You have to keep the momentum going. We can't lose early. And I'm like, thanks. He's a battle.

I wasn't going to try to win, but now I'm in a lot of it. I guess I'll try. But the fact that he said that, and I knew Camille was O and four. I'm like, I don't want to be a dick, but making him go O and five would be pretty cool. I give him an offer. And I remember I made this part on it 17

and had a big swing and made it and I was like I was like That was not much fun. I'm like I appreciate the pep talk, but but I remember I remember that but like you know we've always had the international team is so We were so close to most of all the guys because they were on the same we're on the same tour and everything so I guess maybe Maybe that's why there's not it doesn't feel like there's a lot of animosity between a lot of the guys. I mean it's it's fun but the crowd can definitely add another aspect to it and the Australian crowd has always sort of done that. Hmm. Awesome, man. We're going to get you out of here. I you know maybe someday if players maybe

got paid for these presidents cups, maybe you could spring for a set of AirPods someday, maybe, but we appreciate you. You joining us with your string headphones and. Oh, yeah, I was saying. Yeah, I love them. Do I need the big giant ones or just the AirPods? Just the AirPods. People use the string ones anymore. I thought I thought I thought that was going to get a rise out of you.

I'm teaming up the string. My batteries are always dying when I'm using them. Absolutely. I move one and then it's completely useless and it costs like $350. I'm like, what a waste. I can always keep track of this. And meanwhile, Sally, why don't you YouTube that putty base? We're going to miss.

We're going to miss. Well, I said it, it's going to talk about the golf and let you go. But thanks for joining, Hunter. This was great. We appreciate the insights and we'll continue to have you back as long as you'll keep doing it. Thank you guys. Appreciate you.

Cheers. Thanks, Hunter. Amen. Well, what a delight. No, that was gonna be funny. Come on. Come on. We got the time lots and headphones going here.

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Come on. Now to start at the end. One of the cooler moments I would imagine you could possibly have as a professional golfer is stepping up with your buddies sitting there waiting by the only match left on the course. 18th green, Taylor Pendroth walks up and rolls in a birdie putt and now you've got a putt straight up the hill to win with everybody sitting there and he pours it right in the center.

He knew it from the moment he hit it. And I just let out a huge scream. I didn't care if it was to put another nail in the international teams coffin and really make this a blowout. That was that made the whole day worth it. It was freaking phenomenal. I'm so happy for Max. You know, you don't get a you don't get a chance very often in your career. I would imagine for the for the early walk for the big fist pump.

I would be so anxious that I was going to fuck it up and Max looked very cool on 17 and 18. I gotta say, I thought he I thought he absolutely nailed it. 17 great, you know, if we want to go there great time to make the first birdie the day, they're on 17. He birdied 12. He birdied 12. Oh, did he? Okay. I was looking at it wrong. All right. All right. Well, he had tough day before that, but once the TV cameras came on, he lit exactly. And that's what like this is not a coverage take, but it is funny when they're not, when they're not showing that many shots, how you could just completely skew your opinion about somebody played that day. Like, Oh, God, you see, you know, came young, missed the green with that wedge. I got stoned today. He was awful. I was like, wow, I could maybe I didn't really see too many of his other shots.

But yeah, what a moment, man. It was phenomenal. And I also loved, it was a good post-around interview with him and Billy, I thought, just here and how freaking nervous Billy was. Yeah. You know, I think that was one of those. You didn't really know what you were going to get

if he was, again, as Hunter said, and as many people have said, like he's been waiting for, you know, what, 10, 15 years as a pro now to be in that spot. And I've always kind of pictured him as this like dog just absolutely not afraid of anything ready to go out and, and be the guy. And honestly, he may have, you know, shout out to the, uh, Patrick Harrington experience versus innocence, uh, quote, back in that FedEx cup run, he probably was that dude, right? Where it's just like, Oh, I'm not nervous of anything. I'm not scared of anything. Let's just go fucking get it.

And it was really interesting to hear him after having a couple kind of so, so years and whatever finally making a team and just talk about how he could not get over the nerves until he finally hit the shot. It was, it was really cool. Randy, what was your reaction when the Max putt went in? It was great. It was, it was, it was okay. No, it was, I mean, it's weird to say, but just, I think personally, very happy for Max, right? I think that's what's so weird about the last few years is he's he's he's become like a real actual friend and very happy for my friend first and foremost. There was a fun video

after he turned and let's out a big let's fucking go like spittle flying everywhere. It just was a cool moment because I think I think Max Max is such a connoisseur of the game and what makes professional golf fun and really interesting to folks like us. I think he celebrates the epic spieth point in that as Paul. I know Max is a fan of the big moments that have happened in Ryder Cup and Presidents Cup. So for him to get his moment and to come through and to unleash a really natural, just such an emotional response when that putt drops is, that's awesome.

Like that's truly what it's all about this week. It sounds like it was a win for the game, big. I mean, honestly, it's like, how do you, I mean, how do you not sound a little corny, but I feel like that's, that's it. That's what it is. Totally. Can we up the corn factors a little bit? His quote afterwards, I told my wife when we talk about things money can't buy, money cannot buy that feeling on the 18th green.

And that was something that I'll remember forever. And I will tell anybody who ever wants to hear how that felt. Which, I mean, that's when you get selected for a team like that. Of course, I think the team winning is probably the thing and the memories that are going to come with the victory celebration. But absolutely, that putt is like on an individual level. That's life affirming, right? That's why he started playing golf. That's why he has dedicated

his life to it for moments like that. And like I said, on just getting to know Max, and I think he's a really awesome guy. That's great. I think I'm going to start crying. It's wild to think of it in terms of kind of what he's referring to there is like, that moment is it's not worth any amount of money, right? What he's saying is if you think about it literally though, it's probably worth like somewhere between $1500 million to him.

Like that's what if you wanted to trade in your pro golf career and go play on live, like that's probably how much more money you would make doing it. And instead like that's where he puts the price on it. And do that's where it's like, I'm not saying this is the moment that saved pro golf, but like it saves a little bit of hope in terms of what I root for in golf in that exact moment.

I don't know, that was really, really freaking cool. And in the hyper local narrative of the day, it also was a massive punctuation mark to another pretty big kick in the ball sack to the international team, of having those last three matches tied and could have been coin flips going either way to just keep them from getting even another half point was kind of, you know, is a lot of what we talked about yesterday is the matches looked a lot closer than they they ended up or then the scoreboard makes them look. But also like that was your time to go get it. And all the tipped passes just kind of went to the US again. And it was another another for one day. So it was a good, it was a good

punctuation mark, not only for for Max, but also just for like, oh yeah, no, this, this thing is over. Yeah. Okay. Let's, let's you forget this thing is, this thing is over as well. I, we'll talk about that later. Oh my God. We can circle back to that. Oh my.

Believe it or not. I will say this, though, man, like that, the international's played some freaking great golf today. And it was, they're so freaking outgunned on the road. It played some good golf. They played great. They really there a couple of them did not but a lot of guys played really good golf today. That they're not that good right. So like they played above their level of play today. I honestly think that and it's fashion. Munoz played a really, really great match in the Sheffler Burns. It's so much to watch just from his eyes. Who's awesome.

So they ended up having their match with Scotty and Sam Burns, but he just, I was text to you guys like, man, so what's the deal with this with Munoz? How does he make 17,000 birdies a year and never really content and that he's got a 15 footer that he just blows eight feet past the hole. It's like, oh, okay. That's, that's kind of the mindset there. It's just zero or one, man.. It's like, oh, okay. That's right. Gotcha. That's kind of the mindset there. It's just zero or one, man.

We're trying to make everything. Which respect? Total respect. Yeah. I tweeted this out, but it's worth highlighting here on the podcast. Starting with the seventh hole, Sam Burns made Eagle to beat Sungjae's birdie. Sebastian Munoz made Birdie to beat Sam Burns's par.

Sam Burns birdie the next two holes to win those holes. Scotty Sheffler and Sebastian Munio is both birdie the next two holes and then Munio's birdies start in a row to win the 13th hole. They have the 14th both Sheffler and Sengjay made birdies and then on 15 both Sengjay and San Berns made birdies then they flipped over to 16 in both Sengjay and Scotty Sheffler made birdies. So Sebastian made three in a row then Sengjay flipped over to 16 in both Sungjae and Scotty Schaeffler made birdies. So Sebastian made three in a row, Ben Sungjae flipped over made three in a row, and they won one hole in that entire group. And that match ended up being halved. Schaeffler left the birdie putt on the lip on the 18th green, straight up the hill.

That was, I mean, it's hard to fault how either of those two played today, but that was tough to not get that putt to the hole in that situation. But what a frickin' match that one was. That was was that was a worth the time in front of the TV today. And that's why I was going to say if Max provided the moment of the day, that was certainly the match of the day. And I would be comfortable with calling that great golf. Right. I was in isolated instances. There were isolated instances. Exactly. But as a team, they did not play great golf.

Let's not make sure, let's make sure words mean something here. Yes, yes. They played above their talent level today. And they only got, my point being they got one point. Park right from, from great golf. They, that was pretty damn good today. The other, they got one point out of it, which felt like not, you know, it could have been a lot more. They could have won the session very easily. There wasn't

for Max porn and those puts on 17 and 18. They win that that final match and then the other two matches came down to the 18th hole and tied. It could have gone very differently. It's just the four to one is not where it felt like that should have gone by the end of this day. Do we want to talk about. So, so Cantalaine's and her paired up together again against Hadecki and Tom Kim. Tom Kim is pumping up the crowd on the first tee and, uh, they were what, five down through eight, I believe, is that, is that correct? That is correct. They were, uh, well, you're bearing the lead. He can't, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's gone through the right. He's gone, Tom Kim has gone through two pairs of trousers on the range.

He's just splitting the seam. The tripod. Finally, finally, they tracked down a third pair. I believe you would say and it's, it's Phil Barberger, a player relations guy. He was a friend of ours at Jacksonville here. I wonder what Phil was wearing today. Right, which is like what did Phil then put on?

So Tom Kim is bursting at the seams. And by the time he reaches the first hole, he's pumping up the crowd. I believe he either club trolled or like pimp stepped his drive and it went right in. Straighted the booker. Which I'm way in on. Way in on.

Oh, I have to. I have to. And then DJ like you said, they find themselves five down through eight. But they did not stop fighting. It was not a lack of trying after that. They fought it back a little bit. I am a massive fan of two things.

One, I cannot stop laughing every time someone, I don't think they're doing it intentionally. I think they're just pointing out that he's young and he's 20 years old, but everyone keeps calling him a young top kid, which is, they did that with Sergio for like 13 years. So, but his name was in Tom.

Like, young Tom Morris, young Tom Kim is just like, my favorite thing. I was speaking of a guy that knew his way around a belt, young top Morris, young top came is just like my favorite thing. I was speaking of a guy that, you know, knew his way around a belt. Young top Morris. You could have come in handy today. Can we, can we go to the moment? I loved what was it on 14 on 14. He pours in the birdie to extend the match and just come on.

And I had to tweet it out. The only moment I could think of is when Kansas is playing Monmouth and they're up 55 And they're trying to dribble the ball out and the Monmouth guy sneaks up and steals the ball and runs it for a dunk and gets teed up And he turns he's like, I don't give a fuck that was that was Tom Kim on that crazy Even the announcer's like, oh, come on. Do you see Kelly's face in the background? He's just grinning in the background Just smirking I love it how have a weekend young Tom. Seriously, how a weekend though. Do it.

It can all up, man. And you just know, can't lay is going to be in the PJ tour offices this week, just talking about how efficient those winds are and how they can, I'm sure they could, they could trim some fat. Look at how efficient he's become with his golf game. Barely plays any events, player of the year, type stuff. It's just, it's not good. It's not good.

But they continue, continue to just beat people's asses. And I will say, you know, young Tom was getting absolutely no help from Hedecki, which bad. And we can get into it with the, with the Adam Scott match as well. But, you know, the, the, when the stalwarts on the international team are literally given you like, nothing, it's a bad recipe. So you know, good for Tom Kim, for fighting, you know, he birdied 12, he birdied 14,

he birdied 15 to keep the match going. I actually really like to see that. They play great. Easily could have packed it in. Come on, I'd like to make two par five birdies. One when the match was already out of control. Yeah. Yikes.

Please just let me add it in the front nine. If you'll notice the front nine, I don't even think it didn't matter because the other team eagle. So I think they just gave them the birdie. Okay. Let's not let's not let's not drive a Hadecki into the arms of third lead grit, third lead Greg. We need to they may need to throw a match to him tomorrow.

He may be calling to see if that offer still stands. Well, I don't know if we, maybe we can talk about, I think maybe a couple more matches to get to, but pairings are out for tomorrow and there's gonna be some interesting stuff about that. We'll get to it. That's all Xander and Cantler are sitting, which I think we're gonna have to talk about.

But I think it, you know, what Donald me today was looking at Speed Thomas and Cantley Shoffley, it reminded me of 2014 Ryder Cup going up against Europe when they had Rose Stinson and Garcia Rory, and was just like, dude, how are we gonna get around that? I mean, that's basically two points. And then, like, we go down a bit of an air judge situation.

Go down the board with depth and we're in big time trouble there as well. And it just looks like it really does look like the US is set up. I don't want to use the D word just yet. I don't want to get ship knocked. But it's there's set up to be a dynasty. If not assuming everybody doesn't run off to live after this. Well, and there was something funny about what Hunter said, because I was kind of thinking the same thing earlier this week is that, like, not only are they just almost about as

talented as you can be in the world of golf right now, but they're also like, all the dickbags are gone as well. Like, there's no read, there's no Keppka, there's no Bryce, and there's like, truly who could not play with anybody on that team right now. You know, I mean, I guess Billy runs like a little hot and probably could be a little intense for some guys, but like dude, who can't partner with Sam Burns or JT or Sheffler or Cam Young or more Kawa? Like literally it's like plug and play with with that entire freaking team.

I just didn't mention Mikkelson in there. That's true. Brad, potentially the king of the dick bags these days. Yeah, it's saltine of the dick bags. Xander looks like we talked about in the preview plot. It's it becomes pretty clear like halfway through the first session. Like who is the dude? Who's the guy this week? And I felt like it was going be Zander coming into it,

and it felt, it feels like it's Zander. If you had to pick one, one hard O right now, I think you're probably, you're probably taking Zander, but would you take anyone else? If you get the first pick of everyone in the field right now, who are you taking? Tom Kim, but I'm not. I'm not.

I'm not. I'd probably take Zander. That's exactly right. I'm building the whole franchise around Tom. To the first match, if you will, Jordan's speed, Justin Thomas, Hammond, Egdit, pretty damn perfectly. I believe I'm counting. Diner boys. Nine birds. None of them covered up. Any other ones. It was they shot nine under. I had no no team bogies on the card.

Gotta get, I mean, Cam Davis, again, played some really freaking good golf today. He was, he kept the internatials in that match. Adam Scott had three birdies today as well. That was actually a really, really good match too. Mostly because of Cam Davis, they went on a stretch that they birdied seven, nine, 10, 11, 12 in that middle stretch to prevent

it from getting out of hand. They made it all the way to 17. We're speed pours in a birdie from above the hole on 17 and just a little magic from those two today. JT shot up 14 as well nearly making the A's on like the 200 and what is it 230 yard 240 yard par three down the hill there. Yes. Yes. Outrageous. Yeah. And speed of course, bounces out of the rocks. Of course, gets it up and down like just all kinds of demoralizing shit for the porous trillions there.

To know the race to the, you know, most points and we'll get into the draw here. And as we mentioned, Xander Cantler, not out in Forsem's tomorrow and, and speed and JTR out first tomorrow. I'm guessing that means they're sitting in the afternoon. I'm guessing nobody's gonna play all five sessions on the US side, which is a luxury of depth.

But the race to most points is they could jump out but the first point up tomorrow and they got the lead in that one. What's the all time, but I don't know if you have these in front of you, but the all time scoring record, like the, I guess they, they whittled down the total number of points. Yes. Over the last couple of years. Right. So it's changed. That record is tainted now. But, um, you want to get into pairings for tomorrow? Can I ask

a question before we do that? Please. Yeah. Do you have, and the last match? I, I thought the Pereira Bessadenhut. Sorry, yes, we skipped over that one. And again, Kessner and Cam Young ended up all square. Yeah, it's all, you had a really good, good, good point that you shared internally, but was hoping you could kind of share this with the wider audience, just about Kevin Kessner and Cours fit and what that actually means in practice.

Yeah, and if you will, you can go look on the PGA Tour website and you can see exactly the driving distance gap between Cameron Young and Kevin Kisner. I'm extremely aware of that's not the only aspect of the game, but what CourseFit means, all you got to do is pull up the image of the 17th hole and see where Cam Young drove that ball and where Kevin Kisner has to aim, right? A lot of the problem we have with how far the golf ball goes is the guys that can go eliminate trouble that's right in front of them and the guys that have to play around it, the gap widens, like if Cam Young can hit it 50 yards past Kisner, it becomes even more when they have to take different lines, right? And it just goes to, I wasn't really sure where Kisner fit on this team, why four balls

over foursons, I think at least in foursons, you could have hidden them and had him tee off the even number holes. But then also you get him, you would have him driving on the 18th hole, which he only could get it within 235 of the green. It just goes to show like why we talk about course fit mattering so much is if you go look at that whole by hole and how much closer, you know, how much a course Different courses matter for the drivers and how often you're gonna pound driver and how much gap you can put in between a long driver and a Short-hitter's ball and I think it was 12 of it what that leads to is 12 of the 18 holes in regulation,

Cameron Young was closer to the hole than Kevin Kisner was. And you have to put so freaking good to make up that gap, like so freaking flukely to make up that gap is why I, in the last two years with these course fits, I've emphasized so heavily why you should be emphasizing taking longer hitters. This year was weird, losing a bunch of dudes and kind of needing a 12th guy and there wasn't really anybody else that emerged,

but it was a bit on display today as to why the course fit matters and why this is not Austin Country Club. Well, to that end, I know this is obvious, but just in how few controllables there are in these events, like you absolutely know somebody's going to show up with the distance that they always have when they show up to any event. It's like they're going to show it up and you know, strangely hit it 30 yard shorter. You know what I mean? Whereas like putting is, it's not random, but it's a completely some days you put well and some days you don't. Distances is honestly one of the few constants

that these guys have. And if I can just emphasize how this worked out. So Kisner hit it, 263 off the tee on 17. He had 207 in. Cameron Young hit it, 337 over the corner, and had 108. He was 100 yards closer. So that's what we mean.

I don't know if Kisner hit hit of course we didn't see the shot So I don't know what he actually hit off the tee but Yeah, Randy are you there audio wise? I know we've lost your video, but are you there audio was you're on mute if you if you are in control of that I don't mind been too good. I don't I'm fighting it right now fighting the setup. He's back though. He's there back on the laptop cam I'm sorry. I don't know if the camera overheated, but yes, carry on. Into the B cam. Just changing up the look. I will say a great shot from Kisner into 18 with five wood.

I mean, he hit the green, right? I mean, the distance was, uh, was quite a disadvantage there, but he hit a great shot over the trees. Put one in the middle of the green to kind of freed up Cameron Young a little bit there into 18. So. And the only point I was going to make, and I think it's an obvious one, but just to kind of put a fine point on it, is when you talk about driver being so important,

it just reinforces the type of course that they're playing on too, right? Like Royal Melbourne was a much different test with how firm the fairways were and how much the ball was rolling out and it could find bunkers and we're on a more traditional PGA tour track at Quail Hollow. It's just hit it as far as you can and go find it and hit it again pretty much. You want to lead us through tomorrow, Deach? I would love to. Going off first. So we're back to the four sums, the alternate shot, historically, the US is a massive, massive favorite in this format. But Jordan, Spieth and Justin Thomas going off in the first match

against some J. M and Corey Connors. I believe we saw that pairing in the first, the first day as well. Your thoughts. This is... I don't understand. I don't understand. I get that they had a plan and I'm sure the numbers told them these are our best for some's groupings, but you know, you saw what how him and and Munoz played today and you know that was some of the best golf out there. I'd just be really like why would you split those guys up? I don't get it. Yeah, I think it's you can become if you can do a Tom Watson or a, who was, sorry, you can do a house Sutton and go say, hey, you two are playing together for some tomorrow afternoon and have, and

those guys had not heard that at any point previously in the week, right? That would be like what the decision would be. If you want to send out Sung J and Sebastian Munoz tomorrow, they had no plan for, they probably had no plan for that the entire week Right, so do you do that in terms of let's go for it and totally throw the plan out the window or do you stick with the plan and There is you could it could go either way it really can I I again I just as where this is where empathize tongue-chai.jd is not walking through that door guys like it they just don't They don't have the options to go to, really.

It's not like they're sitting great, great players. And I think he's choosing between a bunch of bad options, honestly. Yeah, I think they go ahead, Randy. No, you go. Corey Conner's supposed to be one of your guys. Like he's not, he played horrible. And that's our reflection on playing Corey Conner's supposed to be one of your guys. Like he's not. He played horrible. And then no, that's our reflection on playing Corey Conner's. It's more just, you know,

these guys had great energy together today. I just would be loathed to split up a group that played such a good golf. I know you have a plan. I know it's easy to armchair quarterback and who knows him and Munoos could get their doors blown off and force them to, but I just, I don't know. That strikes me as curious at best. And again, I mentioned yesterday like sitting Seawook him today, right? After he was part of your lone win yesterday.

That's the stuff that I'm just like, yeah, are we getting too cute here? Yeah, I'm with you on the Sea Wookim thing. I think the Munoz thing is tough because it's weird. If you're gonna trust the analytics, it's not like you can start messing with, like you're looking for tiny edges, right?

By doing that. And I gotta think the only way that that ends up working out in your favor is to almost just kind of ride it for the entire sample set, right? Whereas like, if you, if you, if you're kind of half in on the whole analytics thing and half in on the I test is where it seems like you're going to, but now granted, they're down eight to it. Like I don't know what it's going to necessarily be worse, but on the moon, you know, it's

front like he made a lot of birdies. It's kind of what I was saying earlier. It's great, it's a great comment. It's great comment. Trevor, Trevor's still establishing the run on third and 13th. Yeah, and that's fair. And that's fair, but I think Munoz specifically made a lot of birdies, hit a lot of good shots. He had a lot of really bad shots too.

And it's kind of what we were saying last night is like in the old shot format, you're a little more obviously a little more reliance on the floor to be higher for both players. But I think the question is, is it worth trying to get the lightning in a bottle though? I think it could, you know, when you're down 8 to, is it worth it? I think it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a fair question. And that's where I, that's a good way to put it. That's where I net out is, listen, we, we, we, we, we're, we're tossing up hail marries right now. Right. And that's, and that's what I was gonna say.

Could, could, could, could, could, Munios hit it all over the planet? Sure. Of course. But, but could he also make a couple like 40 footers out of nowhere? Like, I, let me, let me bet on that tomorrow. If you're, if you're sitting with the, with the captains up there, and you're saying first match out, we're trying to catch lightning

and a bottle of Sebastian Munoz, I just don't think that's a good place to be. It's kind of where I would push back. You know where this reminds me of, when I'm like 11 off the number and a qualifier, and I'm like 285 out over water, and I'm like, this is it, this is the moment. I'm like, dude, if I shoot like 87,

I got more questions I got to answer than 83. Like, do I, do I play it safe here and try to conserve the 83? Or do I go for it and try to get down to 79? And yeah, that's kind of what Trevor's up against right now. I think so too. So all right, moving on, I'm match to, and then we didn't really talk about JT's speed,

but, you know, what do you gonna say? Sounds good, man. I like it. God speed. Cam Young and Colin Mora Kawa on the US side, which I believe we also saw on day one in this format are going up against Randy Adam Scott and Hideki Matsuyama. Yeah, I'm benching both of those guys. Hate that grouping. Love the young more, that might be my favorite new American pairing right there, young and more, Kawa. Love that. I kinda, despite what we've seen so far,

I kinda dig the Adam Scott Hideki pairing and I kinda dig it in that second spot as well, because I feel like those are, like if they don't play well, you have zero, like you already kind of have like a 1% chance. Like if they don't play well, you got zero chance, right? Like you need those guys to be, to be your horses. And you know, you put them together, Randy kind of isolates the stink a little bit. You can only lose one point.

You don't want to, you know, if they're going to full stink, you don't want to try to, try to pair them with two different people and drag two different people down. So, and I hear that, you know, they can, they can, you know, if anybody's going to flip and turn it on, it's, it's probably that pairing. So, see, that's where I disagree there, you know, they got, they got absolutely rolled on Thursday as a as a force of pairing. They didn't play that well today. I'm they didn't play that well today. I'm like, we just said it, but if I'm up there with Captain Imelman, I'm saying, yo, cap, let's say, you know, let's throw, I, well, not to spoil the third pairing, but, you know, I'm looking down the roster, I'm like, let's get weird, you know, I'm sitting

Adam and Hadecki, just send a message. That might make both of them go to live also by the way. What you're a fuck. Cause they're not, well, we're not winning with them. We're not winning with them. I'm talking purely presence cup. I haven't seen enough.

You guys have had your chance. You're going to watch Saturday morning. Like I'd like to celebrate Radee's degree from the Tom Watson School of coaching by the way. And hey, I don't need to be your best friend. If you want to get pissed off at me, that's great. And maybe we'll put you back out there Saturday afternoon, you guys can go get a point for me. Maybe, maybe.

Third match. Match number three, Scotty Sheffler, Sam Burns. I hear their very good friends. They vacation together often against my favorite pairing that we have seen in this golf tournament thus far. Tom Kim and KH Lee. I am so stoked to watch those guys go out again. I was so pissed KH Lee didn't play today.

I know he's going to do something that's's gonna turn him into a star this week. And I think, again, he's got another chance to feed off that Tom Kim energy. I'm so in on those two tomorrow. Unfortunately, it looks like Shephler and Burns found it in a big way today. But you're lucky. What are you gonna do?

What are you gonna do? I love it. I'm with you, DJ. Favorite, favorite, favorite pairing of the week on the international side could not be more excited. I, I hope they have an elaborate birdie dance routine planned out. Like I, I want them to just get over the top. Like let's, you know, I, you, you got to try to break softly and, and, um, and can't lay

some way. You might as well. I honestly, I would tell him, let's try to piss him off. Let's beat theatrical. Let's, let's, you know, fist pump everything. I want some gamesmanship out of that pairing tomorrow. If I'm Tom Kim, I might straight up come out with the, the breakaway pay it's tomorrow. Yeah. Like some true dummy, some true dummy like gonna play it to it. First plot that goes in just rip those things off. I started looking like the Chris Pawney is from Jack out there.

So pyro techniques on their body, you know, I'm the person on their person. You know, I want God, I want it all. You know that that gift that Trano always shared? Yes, of course. From the Asian game show where they're like, yeah, like, that's what I want to see going on tomorrow. Well, we need to pass that note to, to Captain Abelman. That's, that's a very specific request.

Can you, before we do this last match, can you, can we pause for a second, just to acknowledge that in a year where the US lost a guy that went five and O off the Ryder Cup team, Dustin Johnson, they lost Bryson, who was undefeated last year in the US lost a guy that went five and oh off the Ryder Cup team, Dustin Johnson, they lost Bryson, who was undefeated last year in the Ryder Cup. They lost Brooks Keppka. Daniel Berger's been hurt. Harris English's hurt since then. Will Zoutoris also hurt. Also at the same time, Davis love has the luxury of sitting. It's saying it might be the best team ever. Of sitting with all of that stuff going on. Of sitting, can't lay in Zander for a session.

That's the luxury he has. On top of all those things, he can take those and he's running out Jordan Speed, Justin Thomas, Cameron Young, Colin Morcal, Scottie Shephard, Sam Burns, Tony Fiennell, Max Holma tomorrow. Like that, it's outrageous. It's truly set up for a epic, epic run.

Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. Next, I just read that. I apologize. I thought that was the shop flea can't laypaying. I didn't know. No, no, no, it's shit. It burns.

Is there anything we want to talk about with them, city? I honestly, I don't mind them sitting. I think no one's going to play five, give them a break. You know, if you're, if you're gassing them during're gassing them during the singles matches, you kind of run the risk of losing two points instead of potentially losing one point. So I know issues with it. Honestly, I said them all day tomorrow, if you want, you're going to be up by 14 points. I think that it means, again, it doesn't really matter, but I think that means sending

Kizner back out for four balls, which I don't see. I don't really understand. Yeah. But again, that might just be, we need to, we need to play this guy somewhere and, you know, we're just gonna go end it in the first session and the afternoon won't really matter. In that regard, I thought it would have made more sense

to if you're gonna experiment with Billy Ho and, and Kizner put them out in the morning, but. Yeah. Maybe they said in the afternoon too, I don't think he'll do that though. With that big of a lead, he's gonna send them with backpack. I better be going to feed now and build it. It's going to be it's going to be a senior night out there. I was going to get some looks. DL's coach and kind of like you coach fourth grade basketball. Yeah. Everybody's playing two quarters.

You know, parents are here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, brother's brother's back from college. He came back to watch the watch the senior game. You know, we'll get him in there. I think we're even going to play for him in the fourth quarter. Trying to give him a bucket. Last match, Tony Feenow, Max Homa, Versiwook him and Cam Davis. I like that, like, listen, I know they're down by a million,

but like I truly like all four of those, those international pairings. I like Siw. Like, listen, I know they're down by a million, but like I truly like all four of those international parings. I like Seawood, Cam Davis. That sounds good, man. Sign me up. Sure. I think they beat the shit out of us, you know? I don't know if they're gonna be feet out of the backs, but I like them as a paring.

Did they get the point? Yeah, they must have gotten the point on Thursday, right? They did, that was the day in the four sem. Yeah, so like the pairing, Dej, I'm with you, I'm struggling to see how the internationals don't take at least three and a half tomorrow morning. At least, at least. Will you apologize for picking the internationals

to go four and one today, Dej? Yes, oh, oh, both of you picked that. Oh, Randy, well, I certainly will not. Okay, both of you were both of you picked that. I ran it well. I certainly will not. Okay. Yes, I will. I did. I did say it was going to be four one.

You got to give me that. That's you nailed that one. I said last night, it would be four one. What are the odds on that, even? And it was four one. Yeah, I'll apologize. I apologize. Can we give away some money?

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I just, I want him to, he's got to have a little bag cop in him. I'm curious if he's he did today with his, what is it? In the asses. His don't go in Greg Norman. That was bad cop. That was good. That was good. Yeah.

He, uh, you can't be these guys best friends. Come on. We, we got to coach him up. We got to make him better. Hold him accountable. Uh, we'll, we'll circle back to that. I have Cody's, Cody's running through all the comments right now. But I'm going to go with a little tight, you know, and I think that describes the

the putting on the international side, just a little tight. Probably want it a little too much. And I think it describes Tom Gibbs pants. You know, just a little, a little snug, a little too snug. And we're just kind of bursting at the seams trying to make buds, bursting at the seams trying to stay in these pants. Just, you know, just a little tight from the, from the international. I thought you were going to throw in Billy Ho's hair in there too. I was leaving that one. That's a layup for solid.

Okay. I was going to go with quail hollow bucking. It was, it was a really entertaining day, really entertaining setup. Some of the pins were really on some edges. Obviously we saw a ton of birdies today. The flashes of what makes team golf and match play really fun was absolutely there. Birdies on top of birdies. Yet it was no gimmie.

There were no funnel pins out there, if you will. There were pins on ridges. There were like the really dramatic pin on the par 5, 16th there on the right. If you bailed anywhere on the right, your ball went way down and you had to chip up the hill and then it was running away from you. You could just kind of get a really good sense of the golf course watching the earlier groups come through and how just how fragile everything was around the greens. I thought the setup was fantastic. It was just right pretty much on the edge of difficulty and it made for some really entertaining golf today. And I think that's a credit to the setup. I was

pretty hard on the yesterday. I still think the greens are running just a touch fast. Like it's not a ton of long putts being made because you just you have to die it in at such a ridiculously slow pace on when it gets down grain. But man, that just it was entertaining golf today. And I think a lot of that credit actually goes to Quail Hollow, which we're usually pretty hard on Quail Hollow, but listen, we're always fair and accountable on this podcast and you can count on that into eternity. I would agree with that. It's a little bit of what we're trying to say during the preview show is like there's been this American methodology for the last like 10, 15 years at these, you know, the coaches manipulating setups and everything of, oh, they're going

to put, you know, they're going to cut the rough down and they're going to put the pins in the middle and it's going to be an absolute dark contest. And what we're kind of saying is like, man, it just seems like the harder you make the course, the more of a blowout, it's going to be. And maybe it would be a blowout either way, but when it gets really firm, it kind of seemed like it was the international's missing on most of those nice edges, right? And it seemed like when the greens are super spicy like that,

and nobody's, it doesn't become a putting contest, your ball striking is what shows out and creates the difference in all of these super tight matches. So I would credit the setup to, you know, just kind of helping an already dominant team, just kind of look a lot more dominant. But can I ask my question for you? Go ahead, ready? No, hold on.

I do want to, you know, people don't get to see you behind the curtain very often, but I just on quail hollow specifically. I want to tell people that, you know, Sali every day when the first match gets to the green mile, Sali will text us and he's so giddy that they're playing the green mile. It's like his face always gets in gifs, like gifs from the movie, deadly and walking. You know, they're all these boys got no idea

what they're in for. They're about to get body by the green mile. The cage is so I want to make people wear this is, this is a big week for Sali and. He's no better. No matter how. Right. Then when they get to the green mile. I'm very tired of pretending that those are good golf holes.

They're not, they're not even like hard like 18 I guess is hard. They're just not good golf holes and they just try to pretend like it's the most entertaining possible spot you could, you could watch golf. And like pretty fun atmosphere around those holes, but they're not good golf holes. Let's just get that out of the way. Great job rerouting it to make sure all the matches went to these. Well, now the matches are kind of ending on the stinky holes, but whatever. Yeah, I was kind of seeing the reroute as a bit pointless yesterday. And today I was cool. I did like having 14 was kind of in the meat of the match,

which was fun. It was cool to see momentum kind of one and loss there. And the real 18 is, I don't know, whatever. It's fun to watch the ball bounce off the rocks, I guess. But as I don't really care. Can I ask you guys my question? Yes. You have to pick and rank these three things.

We may have to go over this more than once because it's a little hard to keep track of. But where will these three teams rank by the end of this week? We're gonna come bottom. Go ahead. Is the cash up game dead by the way? Cash up game is over. Thank you everyone for your submissions.

Thank you Cody. Cash up game is done. These are three teams, okay? You have to add up their points, okay? We have the 2021 European team and the 2022 international team. You get to combine their points, okay? For the, for the Europeans got nine in the last Ryder Cup

and you can take whatever the international's get this cup. That's one team, okay? That makes sense. Okay. Then you have the 2022 US President's Cup team. How many points will they get? And the 2022 US Presidents Cup team, how many points will they get and the 2021 US Router Cup team that got 19 points. All right.

So you got to rank. 1999, it was only straight. Correct. It was. So who's going to get, is this US Presidents Cup team going to get more points than that? Is internationals plus the Europe total of nine going to get more than that? Where would you rank, if you had to pick them, where would you rank them? Well, it's a different number of points for these.

30 points for this, correct. So basically I'm asking, is the US gonna get to 20? I think right now, my head would have to lead with this US president's cup team. It's gonna get to over 19 points, is what you're thinking. The most points, yes. I'm gonna take that, I'm gonna take the under. I think we're so early in this.

I think, I think it's not I just like to get three and a half tomorrow. Exactly, exactly. You gotta keep track of all your predictions big. No, I don't like really say that to be funny. I just more mean like, I think there, there's no big comeback coming, but I think they're only going to keep their foot

on the get like there has to be some give back, right? Like they're not just going to keep keep punching down over and over and over. That's not usually how these events go. Usually there usually there's a it's a lot of golf. There's 36 more holes tomorrow and then 12 singles matches like there, you know, weird stuff happens. And like we said, once you clinch it, usually everybody kind of mails in their singles matches anyways. And so it's kind of a clerical question,

but I'm gonna say, no, I'm gonna say they don't get there. So I guess you put the American Ryder Cup team in that whole second. I think they might tie. I think it's gonna tie. I think this one'll be 1911. So I think they might tie. I think it's gonna tie. I think this one will be 19-11. So I think we agree that the combined efforts of the European Ryder Cup and the international presence

cup is the third ranked team. Well, yeah, I guess that it's hard to do that. I guess it's kind of intuitive, if you will. I don't know if I can do the math on the spot, but basically I'm taking the question. It was a very clever question. It's a very hard question to follow. Very confusing. It makes sense in my head, but basically I'm taking the first very clever question. It's very hard question. Very confusing.

It makes sense in my head, but basically it's like saying holy shit, the US team. Both of the last two US teams might outscore their opponents combined. They're both last. Yeah, I know what you're saying. If the US trade leaves, Whizzley, Straits going 95 miles an hour.

It's all he's still. He wants that 23 to seven final. It's in play right now. Look at the pace right now on. On pace guy on pace guy is telling me that 23 to seven is in play right now. And so and just so we're clear after after afternoon four ball in 2017. The last home one on a team that had a bunch of a lot better players. It was 14 and a half to three and a half.

So you say it usually goes, you know, a certain way. Last time it did not go a certain way. And I still think the US is not fully peaked yet. So I just want to know it sounds outrageous. But I, I, if you, what would the over under for US points be right now if you had to set it? Uh, 20 and a half. I, I, what would the over under for US points be right now if you had to set it? 20 and a half because I do think there's a thing where they're going to clinch and like at a certain point, it's just not sporting to run it up that much. But I know, no, nobody individually wants that. As Hunter was saying, you don't want that mark against you

on like your Wikipedia page, but man, I appreciated you trying to fish for that one from Hunter. I know you're trying to give him a shit on the, on the international's. No, I was trying to get him to be low. No, no, Randy, right? Yeah. I was, you know, so what's it? Is it actually competitive out there? Are you actually trying to beat these guys or what's going on? That went better than me trying to shoot on his headphones. I didn't know that was fine. He might fight you next time. What if he kicked your ass? He's a big guy. If we could queue it up Cody, the Trevor

Embleman tweet, which was making the rounds a little bit here today, which was Greg Norman tweeted out, I think it was yesterday the day before, outside of all this angst, golf is golf, competition is competition, something every golfer thrives on. As a former player and captain of the international team, I wish Trevor Emelman and his entire team the very best in repeating our only 1998 presence cup success in Melbourne.

And Trevor waited till today to just reply, LOL, it all caps. Yeah, thanks, dude. Thanks for your efforts in contributing to this team this year. success in Melbourne and Trevor waited till today to just reply LOL in all caps. Yeah, thanks dude. Thanks for your efforts in contributing to this team this year. Greatly, greatly appreciate what you've done for the international team here. Norman, say what you want.

Norman's always kind of a class act when it comes to these types of things. I know, guys, eventually we gotta put, we gotta put the squabbling aside. let's focus on what's important here? Let's agree to disagree on some stuff I had listen I know I've said some stuff that I don't ruffled your feathers a little bit. I know that I'll acknowledge that I was not Perfect in it was all the interest of growing the game exactly Exactly I think I think it's really the only thing I

game. Exactly. Exactly. I think I did truly the only thing I I'm not sure there is one on on the iPhones, but the LL will need to be a company by like a wanking emoji. Like fuck off, dude. Michael Keaton, uh, wank gif. He's pretty undefeated. Yeah. Would you guys think of Billy Hose, uh, atlas look today? Can I say, I don't know who wants to go first. Go ahead. I love it, but I'll get out of the way. I love it too. I thought we, yeah. Okay, good. I thought this was going to be some, you know, some dunk fest on Billy Ho. I was not signing up for that. I was, I'm a big fan of the look. I think you look great. Honestly, like, I think it's the closest anybody's looked to, like,

young Arnold Palmer that I've seen. Somebody, a friend of a friend has said, Billy how it looks like he just got back from World War II, which that would got me really good. Porter said he looked like- How would this whole week just kind of feels like the US in the 1950s? This must have been what it feels like.

Just middle figures in the rest of the world. Billy needed the pack of smokes, rolled up in his sleeve. Exactly. Billy's moving figures to the rest of the world. Billy need the pack of smokes. Rolled up in his sleeve. Exactly. Billy's moving out to the suburbs, 2.7 kids, car in the garage, white picket fence. He was, he was, he was doing the whole thing. It was great. I, I, I greatly enjoyed Billy's honesty about how nervous he was.

I hated that he was that nervous. I needed him to come out just running through the tunnel and ready to run, you know, run through a wall for his captain, rather than being that nervous. He was way too subdued. I know you, Billy, you gladly shared our take. Well, last time we said everything in your career is building up to you playing in this event and just putting on a show. I got, I need some theatrics out of you tomorrow. I'm assuming you're going to be playing in the four ball in the afternoon. Let it loose, man. I really like that take from Ben you there. He should have wore a suit and tie.

That would have been really nice. He looked at, I think Porter said that. He looked very season three of Mad Men, kind of a competing ad agency. I kind of a duck Phillips type. I thought that was pretty good. What else you guys got? You guys can throw some questions here in the comments too

as we head towards towards rapping up here I know these got movie night coming up Well, that's what someone just yeah, it makes very excited to go see don't worry darling and someone just pointed out Billy would have fit really well in that movie I think that was that was kind of the aesthetic that he had going on Love this you know for those that are on the podcasts who who can't see this but the the massive that are on the podcast who can't see this, but the massive swinging nuts from JT, I thought was great.

That was, you know, JT has a very good time at these. He's willing to be the lightning rod. He's willing to let you, you can hate him if you want. You can love it if you want. He is, but he's willing to, he, the Duke Point guard tweet from TC from last year was just freaking perfect. Like, it

is a lightning rod. It is going to, it's going to divide people and I'm mostly here for it because it's, it's fun. It's entertaining. I love that. I had Cody, I threw one in there that I really enjoyed from, I saw Colton Post retweeted this. I think this must have been a quote from his, his podcast golf subpar. But Adam Scott was on there telling a story about playing with Tiger Woods in these team events. And this was a quote he said, he would pull way too much club on a par three and let you see it as it was playing out. So he'd kind of make a full swing with a seven and flight it in there nicely and let you see that it was a seven. So you're tossing out trying to figure out

whether it's an eight or a nine. And then and you were like, well, it's definitely an eight if he hits seven. And then you go ahead and hit eight and airmail the green. I don't even know if that's true, but I just seem like it doesn't seem that true that he would be like, you know, kind of putting risking a losing a hole just to kind of get any other person's head. If it is true, I'm, I'm all for it. I think it's a delightful delightful bit of games just to kind of get any other person's head. If it is true, I'm all for it. I think it's a delightful, delightful bit of gamesmanship and kind of shown somebody

truly at the peak of their powers, which is, oh, you want me to hit seven, a hundred and fifty yards. I can do that. You want me to hit it a hundred and ninety yards. I can do that too. What do you tell me? Whatever you want. Oh, yeah. And I will say, maybe it just takes somebody like Tiger, which is probably the case, but I, who's going to step up and fill that gamesmanship role, right? I think we're hoping it will leave. Oh, throw it up all over. So maybe, but yeah, I don't know.

It's hard to massive Billy Ho fan. I've been screaming for this, his involvement in the team events for a long time. I'm nervous. I don't think we're going to see him probably on the Ryder Cup team next year unless something strange happens. But I was going to say if you give him one good team event like this and he gets on that Ryder Cup team, maybe feels a little more comfortable. The stage is a little bigger.

He turns into kind of the polter, the poltergeist of the United States team, but I don't know how likely that is. I would, I would not, again, we're going on the road for the next two and it's going to be a different setup and it's not going to be back all on. It's not going to be, it's not going to be bombers delight. He's a European tour member. I would not, I would not say that Billy won't be on the Ryder Cup team next year. I mean, the US is going to need somebody to emerge and kind of bump them out, which there's always turn over a year over a year. But yeah, that's, he fits better for one of those golf courses, I would think, than even

this one. So I would not rule that out. And same for Kisner, honestly. I mean, there's going to, they're going to need to design some special for some teams for a European manipulated golf course. Speaking of which, PTSD is how they're gonna need to to design some special clubs. How they can hit it further. PTSD watching the golf national today,

I'll watch a little bit of the French open this morning. That's, oh God, I never wanna see that golf course again. Tough and tough, it seems like P kind of was in a similar boat for you. I know back at the site of where he shot 82 or 85, whatever it was, when Tiger apologized to him for playing so bad. It seemed like he followed that up today. Tiger apologized to court conners today as well for playing so bad. Did you guys see that rules situation? Yes. Yes. Amazing. The one with Thomas Peters. Yeah. Yeah. So for those that didn't see it, and please Cody fill it, fill in the gaps,

but he was speaking of Tiger, you know, when Tiger would always like stop his swing on the way down, if someone coughed or a bird flew over or whatever, Peters was trying to do that with a putt, which I had never seen before. He was trying to, you took the putt her back, he had a long putt, it was like putt from the fringe, and it's coming forward and someone coughs or something happens and he tries to stop his

putter and accidentally hits it and the ball rolls out like seven feet. And I don't know what happened after that. I know he was claiming I was not trying to hit it. I should get, I should get a drop. What, what was the, what was the situation? So it's if you don't have intent to hit the ball, then it's like the Zach Johnson rule, which is only happens on the tee, but you can replace the ball.

Like if you accidentally hit it with a practice swing or something like that, which, yeah, I'd never seen it really applied to something in the actual stroke, like in the effort of originally trying to hit the ball, but yeah, you got to replay it apparently. well, on the second opinion, if you will. It's very bizarre. It's very silly looking.

Next time I chunk a putt, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, you guys hear that? Yeah, I tried to hit that. I didn't try to hit that. What the hell? Oh, of course. I tried to, I tried to board out of that stroke. What the hell?

You guys heard that right? Which Rasmus Hoygard is up by eight. He was up by eight as of the win the presence cup started today. I don't know what his lead currently is, but he is currently boat racing the field. Big, big week for TC. So for those of you who are interested.

I think we mentioned this yesterday, but Tron's not not in hiding. He's not embarrassed of his international squad. He is unfortunately bad planning by us, but the the Roost Club Championship is going on in Kansas City. So, Sean is part of our NLU delegation trying to fight off the other the other Roasts, but I'll say it because he's not here to say a big week for TC. Hoigard out there dragging us nuts around the future Ryder Cup venue. Ludwig just got to number one in the world and in the men's amateur rankings. So it's past Ryder Cup venue.

It's not a future Ryder Cup venue. They're like, oh, sorry, sorry, I was thinking the Italian Open. That was last week, but thank you. Yeah. Still in the, you know, in echoes of greatness, just going all around them. Sure. Yeah, as international as we is about eight, too. But we could ignore that one.

But well, two out of three, pretty good. Anything else you guys have from today that we may or may not have missed, Randy. Well, Cody's going. Well, Cody, go ahead. I was gonna tee up big. Javi Young hitter update for us. Anything going on?

Look at the serge reading my mind. Yeah, tied for first. And at the Walmart Northwest Arkansas championship, a young hitter, Lauren Coglin, it is a three round event. So today was the first round she went out in shot 64. I believe there's four or five other women that shot 64, so a crowded leaderboard,

but hell of a first round I have to double check this morning ESPN Plus was running feature group coverage which was a lot of fun I got to watch Madeline Sackstrom's whole round on my iPad while I was watching the presence cup on my TV so need to double check if they're doing that this weekend as well, but certainly we'll be keeping one eye on the LPGA tour this weekend. Good luck to Lauren. And to everybody who has got through first stage Justin Huber got through first stage up in Illinois. Andrew Alligod got through first stage in one of the Florida sites. Willie Mack also got through first stage down there

in Florida, John Pack as well, the Florida State Guy, three first stage. Now where else can you get Max Homas putt and in first stage of QSchool qualifying on the same episode? Where else can you get? On a Friday night, if you will. Cody, I just got to ask, as we're rolling out,

I know you're on solo dad duty for those that don't know. Cody has three beautiful young daughters. He's been trying to keep them all at bay. And Randy talking about watching stuff on his iPad just reminded me did, did the iPads last for the whole show? What's the update on solo dad duty? It's, it's going. So I filled them up with cookies dinner has already been served. So dessert is taking place as we speak for at least the last hour and a half. Nobody's killed each other yet. It's incredibly the iPads are still on,

but we have a 645 Alexa timer and that's when we go upstairs. Oh boy. It's been going off for 10 minutes already and I just hear them screaming out there. Alexa, stop timer! And it has, it's paying no attention to that. All right, well, that probably means it's time to wrap.

That is definitely time to wrap that. Thank you everyone. As always for tuning in, we'll be back here tomorrow with another guest. And yeah, we'll be, gosh, will they clinch tomorrow? That's the final question. What do they got to get to? 15 and a half.

15 and a half? They need seven and a half out of possible eight points tomorrow. No way, I say. I'm going to say no. I think the hell of a story. I think there's a better chance that the international's are winning than the US clinches. I don't agree with that part, but I've got to agree with you. I don't think they clinched tomorrow.

I'm glad we can find comic books. If they do, I might need to go half most ash. We'll see. Sorry, we're getting out, half mustache. We'll see. They were sorry, we're getting out, but we're going to investigate. Somebody had said that the half mustache has popped up elsewhere. There are other other separate sightings of the Fee Now half mustache. So we're going to we're going to look into that. We'll have it update for you tomorrow. We'll know more tomorrow for sure. So thank you, everyone. Tune in. Thank you, Cody,

for the ones and twos. We'll see you back here tomorrow. Cheers. Cheers! Be the right club, be the right club today! That is better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most.