No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 605: Saturday Presidents Cup Recap

Episode Date: September 25, 2022

We got a ball game! The Internationals rally on Saturday afternoon and bring some serious momentum into Sunday singles, and we bring in Shane Bacon to go through what each captain "should" do for thei...r singles pairings, and then react to the actual pairings. We also bring in Smylie Kaufman to debrief the day, preview tomorrow's action, and a ton more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to give you the right club. Be the right club today. That's better than most. How about it? That is better than most. Better than most Ladies and gentlemen, we are live welcome back to the no-ling up live show presented of course by our friends at Yeti Sully here DJ Pai is here. Hello, mr. Pai man. Hey guys. What it what a great day. What a thrill happy to be you. Man, I was really worried about what we'd have to talk about tonight.
Starting point is 00:00:46 We lined up a couple of guests just to make sure we get through the show. And now I'm not afraid of having a shortage of things to talk about. Big Randy is here, jazzed up. He's got presents, cup fever. He's got a sickness. Hello, big Randy. I was excited. Finally felt something.
Starting point is 00:00:59 We might have too much to talk about tonight, but good to be with you guys for day three, looking forward to it. Tom Kim has put the internationals on his back and speaking of backs, rowback, active where I don't need to tell you guys, DJ did not get the memo tonight. He is not wearing a rowback, but you know, big rainy's got the hoodie. You know, I got one of my many, many rowback hoodies on these guys understand quality. Their performance polo fit so much better than your typical boxy polos. Their four way stretch is next level.
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Starting point is 00:01:53 legal ease of that one. That was going to get to that eventually. But last say, rowback's performance, what can we say about it? That has not already been said. I've probably worn this four times since the last time I washed it. It barely even stinks. It does stink a little bit, but that's just, that's, that's what happens during, during big championship weeks. I don't really leave the house and I just sit around in my filth, but we cannot take them off and it's for good reason. Rowback is gaining traction.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Big time, you can use code NLU at rowback.com for a generous 20% off your first order. That's R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com, 20% 20% off polo's q-zips hoodies and more with code NLU they just dropped some joggers which we do not have our hands on yet but we're going to change that very quickly here but whoa whoa whoa Davis love had a six shot six point lead on a Saturday afternoon two matches left on the golf course, home soil. There's a maniac running around on the greens. They lost the last two matches and they're going into Sunday with only a four point lead. Do the international have life, guys?
Starting point is 00:02:55 Do they have life? Yes, absolutely. Is it still an extremely long shot? Yes, and I hate to pour cold water on it right away, but they got to still win eight and a half out of 12 tomorrow. It's not like we got it all back today, but we kept it competitive. At least there's a lot to talk about. Tom Kims' star.
Starting point is 00:03:19 And there's a reason to watch tomorrow. Randy, what am I missing? I mean, I think the proper vernacular, Sali, yes, the US team did lose those last two matches, but I was so impressed. The international team really won those two matches. The shot making down the stretch by some unheralded, at least coming into this week, mostly unheralded. Rookies was a lot of fun to watch and really provided the first real juice, I think, the first real juice of the weekend, which is awesome.
Starting point is 00:03:53 So, as DJ said, long way to go, little concern, the internationals might be celebrating and I like they won the game, which, you know, hey, enjoy the great day, but lots of work to do tomorrow, be celebrating the night like they won the game, which, you know, hey, enjoy the great day, but lots, lots of work to do tomorrow, which we can talk about. Let's bring in our guests. We got one. It's a beautiful evening in the Northeast as he's told us. So he's going to be coming to you from outdoors, I believe somewhere in Connecticut.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Of course, from the golf channel, Mr. Shane Bacon Shane. How much golf you watched today? I watched a lot of golf and I came away with one thing and one thing only don't sit Max home. A guy's what are you doing? Look what's happened? You put Max on the bench, hottest guy in the world. What a Tony Fienel say. He's Mr. Clutch. And then, you know, they start to call back. I'm down to second, do some second guessing here, with total hindsight tonight. I'm way in on doing this. I was kind of okay last night,
Starting point is 00:04:51 and Randy, I want to echo your sentiments and how good the international's played in this afternoon session. It was not handed to them in any way, but that was kind of okay with, like, all right, I didn't really, I guess I didn't really fight it with the inevitability of we're going to send out Horseshoe, we're going to send out Kisner in separate four ball groups. And just because I was kind of like, do I'm I going to get
Starting point is 00:05:09 seriously worked up the US is up 85,000 points. I just don't want that to be what people remember about this week, but looking back at it, they completely, completely wasted a Sam Burns exhibition today and lost that match. And Kevin Kisner gave Tony Fee now absolutely nothing. And that's just that's two points right there off the bat. And then Tom Kim and Siwo Kim did their thing to beat the Cantlay Shoffley group, which rested in the morning, also which now we can kind of call into question if they can rest in the morning and come out to lose in the afternoon. But I don't know if it's participation trophy SCN, but it didn't feel like they were setting up pairings
Starting point is 00:05:45 in that afternoon with the idea of, let's get as many points as possible. It felt like a, let's please everybody kind of thing. My honest, I think you had an issue with the senior night setup. You didn't like them rolling out senior night. Everybody gets a shot. They were running plays for Kizner out there. The team manager got to check into the game.
Starting point is 00:06:03 They let them have the part five. Like, that's right. We hit it in there close on the part five. Yeah, and then when, when kind of push came to shove, it wasn't quite enough. It, I think, saw this was kind of some of what I was, I want to get back to the pairings because I think that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:06:17 But I think this is some of what I was talking about with like me and these competitions are so long and they have been flowed. And it did the international's play that much better today than they have the past couple days? I really don't think so. I feel like they just, those last couple holes of those last couple matches notwithstanding. That was a different level of golf. But the rest of it was kind of, you know, it was a lot of those like 45, 55 probability
Starting point is 00:06:41 matches that just all went to the US the first couple days and finally they got a couple a couple go in their way. So it was it was good to see that. The I will Adam Scott showed up which was which was great to see he got today. Beige day. Let me just give a shout out to This isn't going to make a lot of sense right now, but when tourist sauce comes out, you guys are going to remember this day in the present cup. That's all I'm going to say. The 10.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Bajjte's there. I love it. Yeah. Yeah, I, I, I, I, Kudos, you know, I just talked to him. Let's just do, let's do the whole time, Kim thing. Let's do the whole thing again. And that's, that's where I was going to go, Sal, he kudos to the international team for for coming out with energy
Starting point is 00:07:28 I had I was so impressed listening to Tom Kim's interview after his match saying essentially He's taken upon himself to kind of be the energy guy at 20 at at 20 in his first Obviously his first presence cup 20 and his first obviously his first presence cup, first time really on anywhere close to as big a stage as this is. It's really, really impressive. And I'm just so happy that he, you know, he had, hit shots and really backed it up and had good reason to be as excited as he was.
Starting point is 00:07:59 It was really fun to watch. I'll say this, Patrick Reed fooled a lot of us for more years than it should have because he was so into it in 2014 and what he did in 2016, it lasted. He got a bottom self, like two years of runway of overlooking serious, serious deficiencies in his, uh, in his character that even the European fans are like, I, you got a hand at the read. Like I respected him. Like he's an entertainer.
Starting point is 00:08:24 And now we have a likable Patrick Reed character in team events. Tom Kim brought, again, he did it again today, pumped up the crowd on the first tee. He was there to have the time of his life. And as it turns out, that actually helps you play a lot better golf and rise to the occasion of these moments. And you get one of any year where you get to run around the green like an absolute maniac making huge puts on the 18th green max. Oh, I got to do it yesterday. And Tom Kim got to do it today. And there was just I had about four different things prepared for once that putt went in
Starting point is 00:08:53 because there was zero doubt that that putt was going to go in. I knew that everybody in the whole anybody that watched any of the president's cup this week knew that putt was going in. Can I ask you guys real quick? Did you think for a second when he started to move that it might not go in? No, because I did. I thought he turned his back and he like, yeah, it was going to be Nicky young. Yeah, it was going to be the young. We're running over to the guys. They're like, Hey, it lived out.
Starting point is 00:09:19 You still got three feet. I was, I was nervous. Um, I, Sully, this is right in your world and I was gonna text you guys this yesterday. Now we have back-to-back great golf celebrations in consecutive days. That has to be the only time that's ever happened. The max celebration yesterday
Starting point is 00:09:36 is an all-time celebration. He nailed it. It was a great thing to Yale. He stepped with all the words. The chess pumps were awesome. And then Tom did it. I mean, these were like 20 out of 10 celebrations. I would dare I would go as far as to say I'm not sure there's ever been a tiger celebration as good as those two back-to-back celebrations
Starting point is 00:09:53 That's that's very well said cam Davis had a good one too. I mean it was a little more subtle But it was just like emphatic he played that final putt extremely quickly and just throw it at right in the middle and Just walked off into the night. I mean, it was, gosh, I guess something about, I guess every president's cup in some way we've root for the international's to make it somewhat interesting. Like, if that was Europe that had done this, I'd have been like, I'd be in tears right now because I think I'd be so worried about tomorrow. But this competition, it's like, all right, come on, we got to have something, we got to
Starting point is 00:10:24 give us something here. I think the last hour, Rainier, you're gonna love this and know you love this stuff. Their win probability went from 1% to 3% in the last hour, but so just keeps everything. Keep it in perspective for how ridiculous it would be if they would be the US by four and a half points tomorrow. But yeah, at least we have something
Starting point is 00:10:43 excited to talk about tonight, because that was great theater. Again, four balls delivered. Both sessions of four balls were fantastic. For some's both neither of them really gave us a whole lot to react to. But the I think there's going to be two things that will be kind of slept on in that last hour. One will be the fact that that Tom Kim shot came in from like 235 yards. Is it looked like it looks like everybody in that last group had like flip wedges into into 18, right? I don't know what they actually had in into the last hole, but like the dart from Burns and the shot that came Davis hit in there all looked like, you know, maybe not flip wedges, but they looked like a lot closer than 235.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Burns had 157 in on 18. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. And Tom Kim was that far back and he had to roast a two iron in there. Like that's that's crazy. And then two is just Cam Davis in general, like those last three holes that he played. I know he kind of fell off a little bit in the middle of the round, but he's been so
Starting point is 00:11:40 solid all week. And that that was like. I was texting a buddy, like man, they really cut to that. Cam Davis putt for the win really quickly. And there's almost like, I think they almost like mentally thought, okay, it's gonna be the Adam Scott putt. Like, let's get ready for that.
Starting point is 00:11:55 It's like, dude, there's no way Cam was missing that at that point. Like that, he was the dude. It was awesome. His shot in the 16, too. I mean, a lot was kind of happening at that point, that fade into that pin and making Eagle on 16. He finished Eagle Birdie Birdie to go and steal that match away from San Burns who birdied one, three, eight, nine,
Starting point is 00:12:15 11, 12, 14, and was gonna birdie 18. They gave them, they marked them as a birdie on 18. Eight birdies and 18 holes. And just, but Horsesle did come up with a clutch birdie on 16, but that was all he gave him for the entire day. And Matt, just to piggyback on that, Tully, I think it's worth pointing out, Cam Davis, he did go Eagle Birdie birdie,
Starting point is 00:12:39 but he had Adam Scott, like right there on each hole, I believe with an eagle putt, with a birdie putt, with a birdie putt. So he had his teammate and, you know, providing cover for him. And props Adam Scott, I've been tough on him these first couple of days. He showed up today, he played excellent golf.
Starting point is 00:12:59 It's what I expect from him. But just to juxtapose that with Tom Kim on 18, his partner, CW's off in the shit. Like it was on Tom Kim there. And for him to step up and hit that long iron, I think that for that reason was the most a little bit more impressive to me than even the Cam Davis run down the stretch. Yeah. Yeah. Solly is, is Cam Davis Ian Polter in your scenario? Is it can Davis is Ian or Tom, I think Tom Kim's filter, Tom Kim's filter, Tom Kim's the end polter. Okay. I mean, I feel like with the Davis finish, then you kind of have Adam Scott playing Rory there.
Starting point is 00:13:36 And then you can, like we've got young Tom Kim as, as Sergio, right? That's what I'm saying. There you go. First, first, and onto the scene and, and turn it into a team play stunt. As Porter said, if somebody arrives via police escort tomorrow, then we officially get worried. But to your point, Randy, Adam Scott birdied 7, 8, 9, 11 and 12 in that middle stretch. And I think the only thing preventing Cam Davis just made his putts. So Adam Scott, like, didn't even get to make those eagle or birdies down the stretch.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Well, I know this is so doable with every one of these team events in both sides and whatever, but man, if Adam Scott shows up a little bit sooner or if Corey Conner shows up or like all those, there were so many close matches Thursday and Friday that this thing could have been like one or two points instead of four points and then it gets really interesting, I think, but it's the way it goes. Well, you know, it's the first line of their national anthem, but oh, Canada, Canada, zero points
Starting point is 00:14:39 combined from your two players. You know, how about we pull our weight up there? But hey, also credit that fire litter to their ass. The captain, I got a tight 15 down at the club tonight. If anybody's in Denver, graphics guy should have been all over that. They do that was good. It got me good. I hit me right in the fields, Randy. That's right on my alley. The, uh, the captain that did not hesitate to sit two of his players for the entire day won the day is what is I'm gonna leave you with that. Why is that? Why would that be? What's going what's going on in the US the US team room? What is it? But he sat Bizzadon Hote and Pereira today and
Starting point is 00:15:18 Came out and won the day Trevor. I'm a man did so parents. I hate it I hate it. See my guy best on the pitch, but you know, you gotta Gotta give credit where credit stood a to Captain Evil bit on that one. Parents are on their way out. We were planning to play a little game here. We're Shane and I were going to represent the US. Yeah, no, don't look at him. I won't look at it. I won't look at him. We're going to, we're going to play a game as if we were the captain. So we're not second guessing anything here. Who goes first in it? Does the US go first or does the international's go first?
Starting point is 00:15:44 I forget what the rules would, of this would be. Let's just say the US goes first. Okay. Bacon, who we sent in out first seems seems appropriate. Do you want to go heavy first? Because we got to win the early match. I think I think I think it now is heavy after having this momentum shift. So my thinking Zander Zander first out or JT first out. I would send JT out first. That would be my pick. All right, we'll put Justin Thomas first spot Sunday, fellas. Okay, Randy, what a, talk to me, what do you think? And I know Tom Kim is the easy one,
Starting point is 00:16:13 but I don't think we can do that. That's all the eggs in one bag. You guys are such babies. You would be, that is, you get the chance to do it in a hypothetical, you have to send them out. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're going to win. It's like, it's like Hideki in Adam Scott the first day. Like if they go and get the chance to do it in a hypothetical. You have to send Davis out first. Big. I think he's feeling himself. He obviously feeds on the juice.
Starting point is 00:16:48 They're putting up JT. Let's do it. Yeah, let's see what the young kids got. We're gonna have to move quicker through this. You guys, who's going out second? All right, Cam Davis. Who's that? We'll toss out, D2.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Who do we like back in him up? We gotta go strong, right? Yeah, Seawoo. Okay. I mean, they can't be too far from each other, right? Sully, like they need to be within two or three hundred yards at all times in these team matches or we just throw Jordan there
Starting point is 00:17:16 and just let him follow JT up. I'm gonna save Jordan for Seawoo. I would put max out next then. I think that's still in advantage. You just want like a little incremental advantage there and then I would put max out next then. I think that I think it's still in advantage. You just want like a little incremental advantage there. And then I would throw, I would maybe throw Xander out third if that works with you. I love it.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Max second Xander third. Good luck, fellas. I think we got to go with the original tan. You read my mind. We'll put up Adam Scott. Okay. And then we're going to back that up with, uh, with SungJM. Yes. We're building the wall. Hold hold. You can. SungJ's tough,
Starting point is 00:17:52 solid. SungJ is is tough as it comes. I would like a little experience going up against SungJ. And my, in my, in my opinion, all my years, Captain, and assistant vice captains assistants, I would probably lean more of a veteran here. I would say either Cantlay or Burns in my opinion, all my years captaining and assistant vice captain's assistance, I would probably lean more of a veteran here. I would say either Cantlay or Burns right here. I think we're gonna fight fire with fire here. Okay, let's throw Pat Cantlay out there. Let's throw him out there.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Okay, good match. And then we throw Burns out next, I would say. Perfence, a lot of firepower. God, is this where we put Tom Kim? Randy, the end of the wall. Not a lot of letters in that matchup, saying burns. Or we got one heavy left. Do we, do we deploy Hadecki here? I think we got to put that he a little later. I feel like, but otherwise we're, you know, if they break and tame, I guess it won't matter because they only need four and a half, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:43 we got to have, I feel like someone's got to be guarding the kitchen. Do we go with, do we answer with our microwave, man? Sebastian Munoz. I will go Sebastian Munoz. Oh, I like that. Munoz has played freaking awesome. That's a great call. Sebastian. And then do we try to hide somebody here, Deach or no, you know who I like in this next spot who's going to find it, how to day off, Cory Connors.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Sure. Can we throw Billy Ho against Corey Conner? So you okay with that? Um, let's sneak Billy in there. Let's do that. That's fine. That works. Maybe a pillow fight match, but I was just okay.
Starting point is 00:19:19 I'm not going to get a lot of, not going to get a lot of camera time. That match is going to be one of the ones I think that gets left off the page. You've got JT going out early and you got speed late and all those guys. I don't know if you're going to get a lot of, not gonna get a lot of camera time. That match is gonna be one of the ones I think that gets left off the page. You've got JT going out early and you got speed late and all those guys. I don't know if you're gonna get a lot of attention with those two.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Have we put some, let's try to allow that. Let's just a fist fight or something. Is anybody riding these down? Or we just, I'm already here. I'm already here. Okay, perfect. That's what I'm looking for. I do wanna say the Horseshoe,
Starting point is 00:19:40 the Horseshoe Connors match can play the members' teams. They both agree to that. After nine. If they're both over par through nine, we'll move them up into you. I love that idea. Yeah. Did we put JT or do we put speed out already? I don't even remember now. I've kind of, I mean, we have, we haven't put them out yet. All right, we'll put them out now, I say. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Is this where we, is this where we use our guy? I think this is where we have to use our guy. We'll put a top came. Okay. Kind of in the swing spot. Yeah. End of the wall. You guys are going to get crushed in the media for bearing your guy's seventh or whatever this is. No, he's standing on the first.
Starting point is 00:20:11 He hyping everybody up. He was sitting there at third. You had Tom Kim at third. That was the spot to throw him out. I'm with solid. You guys are frauds. You're having a half in solid. And then who will then it's kind of, you know, it's liver dye either we're vibing or now we'll go
Starting point is 00:20:26 Taylor pendreth. All right, we're going to put, we're going to put phenol up against him. That's who I was going to say, Sully, I was right there with you. I love the phenol call. A lot of electricity there could be a blood bath though of big tone. Also big tone decides to get it. In case you forgot about the US depth, why don't we throw a call on more cala next? Right.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Got you as other team. So we can now we can back, now we can load this pretty heavy back. get it in case you forgot about the US depth. Why don't we throw a call on more Kawa next? Yeah, this is where it starts to get a little tough. What are we third? Meadow. Meadow gets him. I fed the Sensor or big sexy K H. Yeah, we'll throw a K H Lee. Okay. And then we'll put we'll put bez out after that. or big sexy K H. Yeah, well, throw a K H Lee. And then we'll put, we'll put bez out after that. I thought you might want bez in the, in the 12 spot, just in case.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Solid, I listen, I know he's number one in the world, but this feels like maybe a spot. Oh, we probably should use Shephler. That's fun. I feel like Shephler is this is a spot where he could, he doesn't seem to have, have totally had it this week, but I feel like he could still win one or two up and that. This is such a depressing, depressing exercise.
Starting point is 00:21:29 I'm gonna say, Randy, after watching his experience on AT&T and Southern Hills, his watching his experience on AT&T here at Quill Hall, I do not think we want Mito in that last group. So I think we gotta put Hideki out probably. I'm sorry, I think we gotta put Mito out, Mito out and then Hideki will be last,. So I think we got to put Hideki out, probably. Sorry, sorry. I think we got to put Mito out, Mito out, then Hideki will be last.
Starting point is 00:21:49 What do you think? No, no, I think we deployed Hideki already. I think we're left with Mez and Mito. I think this is officially with the time we move on. Because so, matches are rolling in here. We have, in the first match, we have Seawoo Kim versus Justin Thomas. Okay. Match, match two, Cam Davis versus Jordan's speed. So we're pretty close on our picture.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Sure. Match three, Hadecki versus Sam Burns. Match four, Adam Scott Patrick Cantley. I think we had that one, didn't we? Match five Sebastian Munoz, Scotty Sheffler. Love it. Oh God, go get it, Munoz, go get it. Match six. It feels like an international win. Taylor Pendrith, first Tony Fino. I think we had that one as well. Yeah, that one too. Had that one. So hard. That's all that's out so far. But I don't know. I feel like that, I mean, the internet, that first part is gonna seem okay for the international's and then on that back half is where it's gonna get.
Starting point is 00:22:51 I'm a little bomb Max's now to early. I gotta be honest. If the L3 would have been watching the show, I feel like he would have maybe leaned on us a little bit, put Max out there early. If we're in the nest here, well, there's no bigger Max home of fans in this collection of individuals.
Starting point is 00:23:04 I don't think on the planet. But Max did not play great great overall the first couple days. He finished incredible on Friday afternoon and played very well today by all accounts. Granted, I did not get to see a lot of his golf shots that were actually played in those matches, of course. But it's not like I think Max's record, like Sam Burns has played better than Max overall. And Sam Burns doesn't even have a full point yet in Max's three and L. That's just the vagaries of match play is leading to a little bit of that, if you will.
Starting point is 00:23:30 But I agree with you. I would have put him out earlier. And you'll notice that our fearless captain did not put Tom Kim out. We were reading from the same playbook. Yeah, and I was gonna say, Max might find himself in a clenched position, a possible clenched position, a possible clinch position,
Starting point is 00:23:45 which would be fun for him. How do you do bullet-tune board material from a podcast? Like if you're Max tonight, like, how do you take that solid quote and do you just write it down, like on the hotel paper? No, I think it's notes, no tap. No tap, okay, voice memo, no you got it. That was a huge day.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Yeah, the guy that made eight birdies today, he's played better than you so far to this point. That's, that was just dunking all over Max. That was, that personally. Offense the guy that made eight birdies today, he's played better than you so far to this point. That was just dunking all over Max. That was, that personally, offense was definitely definitely meant with that. How do you, honestly, I'm coming off a period of praising the heck out of Trevor Emelman and getting the international to this point.
Starting point is 00:24:18 How do you not send Tom Kim out first and try to get the crowd moving in that direction? Like that, I'm confused there. I think it's building the hype. I don't have the crowd moving in that direction. Like that, I'm confused there. I think it's building the hype. I was like, I was a crowd. And they was gonna say, DJ made the point. He gets to hang on the first tee. Yeah, and I think like,
Starting point is 00:24:33 once that bullet is shot, you're not getting it back. Like, you better freaking hope he, he, you know, goes out and does some outrageous stuff. But it's not like that Roars are gonna be echoing around there. Like if they were, like if they were a home team, I think it's different. Right? Like if he goes out and is just making putts early and they're actually like Roars going out,
Starting point is 00:24:53 that would be great. But like who, I mean Tom Kim, I think you wanna see it like JT is still gonna get more cheers than Tom Kim out there. Right, but if you go, you need like to flip the momentum, if he goes and gets three up on JT, that is gonna reverberate back through, at least your team room or your players in general,
Starting point is 00:25:08 I would say, but what do I know? Match seven is, if you go out and loses the first three holes, but you're all, it's a waste of the face. It's like, you know, consider it, it's like the mental miss, right? Like you've already missed it, right? Like you need, you need a total miracle at this point,
Starting point is 00:25:23 but match seven is Cory Conn's versus Zander Shoffley. I do not like that for Mr. Conner's from where we're sitting currently. Yeah, that's not great. I think, I think, I think, double C might have some pride in him tomorrow. Hey, Randy, hold up, I read. I have something I wanted to throw your way
Starting point is 00:25:40 as the matches are kind of rolling in. And I would like everybody's thoughts on this, but I wanted to start with Randy. Are we close to being done with the bell buckles, the American flag bell buckles? It just feels like, it's probably about time. International's belts today, excellent, sharp, match the pants, the American flag bell buckles,
Starting point is 00:25:59 just kind of scream 12, 15 years ago. I just feel like it's time. I agree with that. I, it's not something I thought about until just now, but I will stand beside you, Shane. Thank you. I would sign your petition. Let me know where to sign. They made a lot of sense when Ricky Fowler was on these teams. So I point, it's my point. Speaking of which, 10 years ago, speaking of which, uh, you know, I know the caddies are not not really a storyline. Happy for our guide, Joe Schoenren. Yes. to go speaking to which, you know, I know the caddies are not not really a storyline.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Happy for our guy, Joe Scalvin. Yes. Out there with Tom Kim looks like he's having an absolute blast. I think it could have gone one way or the other where he's like true like first week of the job, go get my ball out of the hole, pick up my putter. Like I could have seen that, you know, I can't speak for those holes. Maybe he wasn't digging that quite so much, but I got to think relatively speaking. I mean, I know he's still been on a great bag
Starting point is 00:26:48 for a very long time. The last couple of years with Ricky had to be very tough, both as like those guys have been friends since college, since high school, even like growing up, like and Ricky's been struggling trying to get it back. That's a weird relationship for like a player, Cadi, especially if you're friends. And it's just good to see it kind
Starting point is 00:27:07 of a clean break and him getting on with what looks like a star in the making. I was I was pumped for him to see that. Shane, Shane, you've done some Cadi-ing in your day. I don't know if we're talking about a resort guest. And Shane, they could go get that. Talk to me about what initially goes through your mind when the player points and says, go get that ball out of the hole. I got to be honest.
Starting point is 00:27:32 I've I've caddyed a few times on the LPGA, a fair bit. Resort golf is DJ pointed out, not sure I've run into that issue before. I would happily go get it though, I guess. I mean, I guess that's kind of the job, right? Unfortunately, yeah, I mean, is it's kind of the job right unfortunately. Sure. Yeah. I mean is it for is it for birdie is it for par or are we putting for triple right I mean I think there's a big difference on go get that.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Glad they won the match because if you're going to have me go get balls out of the hole I will do it but I asked that you actually win the match. It's fair point. Common here from Woe Nicky saying DJ ambush, ThGun marketing, listen, I got a surprise for you, this is an ambush marketing, this is real marketing right here. TheraGun, if you don't know, is the handheld percussive therapy device that releases your deepest
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Starting point is 00:29:15 You can basically try it for free for 30 days. You pay $199, but you have a return policy up to 30 days, if you will. I think I read that properly. Shout out to Theragun. These things are freaking awesome. This is the mini right here. It's extremely small, I think I read that properly. So shout out to their gun, these things are freaking awesome. This is the mini right here. It's extremely small, I can fit pretty much anywhere. I got the high octane, high horsepower one.
Starting point is 00:29:31 I was gonna say there. I do too, and it's taking me a long time to realize that like the better you treat your body, the better you're gonna feel. I, you know, it honestly, it's your lesson. What's your source on that? Oh, I don't have MLA. Like to see the research on that.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Yeah, I don't have an MLA citation for you, but it's just amazing. So Theragon has been, I've had the big boy gun back there for a couple of years and it really, really is nice. So I'm glad you have it too after that workout video you posted yesterday. I'm glad you have the gun there to kind of loosen everything. Oh, it's tough scene. That might be why things were not feeling great, because I'm just you have it to after that workout video you posted yesterday. I'm glad you have the guy there to kind of loosen everything I was tough seen that might be why things were not feeling great because I'm just not athletic Yeah, you're just your four. Yeah, I don't know really bad really really bad. Um, hey, hey, Sali can I plug something? Do you care?
Starting point is 00:30:15 I'll take two seconds. Sure. It's not it's not there a guy. I got a children's book coming out. It's called the golfer zoo It's for children. It's a golf book and you'll have fun with it. It's gonna be available soon. Check my social for it. But I've got a children's book coming out in the next week. Buy it for your friends or whatever. That's my plug. Thank you, Jay.
Starting point is 00:30:35 That is Ambush Merrick. That's great. That's great. Sorry. Well done. I felt like I needed to squeeze it in. Listen, I wrote a children's book. It's a very interesting process to do it.
Starting point is 00:30:45 And so if I can squeeze it in, Thera Guns great, Yeti's great. I'll give all you guys plug that. Well, what was the hardest part about writing a children's book? I've always thought about that. The hardest part for me was making sure I get in enough jokes that the parents get a chuckle out of it because having two children now, you read the good children's books and the
Starting point is 00:31:07 children's shows and the bad ones that don't ever kind of appeal to the parents and the audience that is like basically forced to watch and read the things. So I try to have a few adult jokes in there that you can at least laugh out that the kids will never understand. And what age group are we targeting with this book? Really, I mean all ages, Randy. mean, I think you'd enjoy it. If you read it I think it's right up your alley would look good kind of behind you on your professional set. Yeah No, I didn't read a book read a three to six three to seven. Okay. It's a good age. All right. That's probably who I'm looking at Okay, all right. Okay. Now that listen. That's enough. That's all I just wanted to say it. I appreciate you guys allowing us
Starting point is 00:31:42 We'll send you the bill. That's great match eight eight. Thank you. SungJM versus Cameron Young. Totally forgot Cameron Young is on your team. That's tough too. I don't think we even put him out. So he was going to be 11 or 12 for us. I think KH Lee versus Billy Horshaw in match nine. I like that. That's got some that's for one for the psychos. Max. Versus say it. Young Tom. I like that. That's got some that's for one for the psychos max. Homba versus. Say it young Tom. Young Cody young Tom Kim.
Starting point is 00:32:15 I don't know who wanted who there. If it was a chess match of waiting till one of them got got put up, but the battle for most like ability for each side, Max Homba versus Tom Kim and match number 10. I don't even know who's left yet. We got, they're still they're still working out. That is so awesome. We never really get those, right? The dream ones that we all think about and golf fans hope to see. I feel like if we'd all really truly posted, which one we would like to see, that would have been number one on everybody in this group's list, I would imagine. Yeah, that's gonna be.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Yeah. How many holes is that match gonna get to before it ends? Finally, that's my only complaint. No freaking idea. Maybe not, we'll see. What does it match nine, you said? I think it's match 10. Match 10, okay.
Starting point is 00:33:05 All right. Oh That's gonna be a lecture come the first tea shame. We got another guest he'd come in in here Okay, actually the next couple minutes, but anything else from today that that Professional golf commentary. Let me see that I had a, I want to compliment Sully on his kiss and her take. I think it's, I told it's actually this Sully. I think it's the smartest thing I've heard all week long by anybody in terms of analysis around the president's cup. Justin Leonard saying Justin and Jordan are always three up. It seems I felt like that was totally spot on.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Every time the leaderboard pops up, they always feel like they're three up in their match. And I wish there wasn't the rough left on 14, the par three. I wish it was just shape completely down. So those balls went in the water. If you hit it left, I would like for the ball to go in the water. I hate that they just stop right there like Velcro. Shane, I'm gonna deny that first point. It was not a good point for me on the Kizner link thing.
Starting point is 00:33:59 It's the most obvious point possible. It's out there, right? I've been just saying it for years. I like the way you explained it. It's simple thinking. It's out there, right? I've been just saying it for years. I like the way you explained it. It's not the way you explained it. It's simple thinking. It's really spot on. It's simple thinking.
Starting point is 00:34:08 It's part of the traps that the US team has fallen in too many times over the years. And to that point, you just said, what a luxury that we've been on for like 35 minutes, and we haven't mentioned JT and Speed for 4.0. That's the luxury of American golf at this point. It's just kind of a foregone thing that they're going to go out and do that
Starting point is 00:34:24 and not even be worthy of mentioning on Saturday night, but But yeah, that's pretty outrageous, but all right, we're gonna let you go. Thank you so much for joining Thank you Randall match 11 coach got our telegram Mito going out against Colin Moore Cowell love it Yeah, I don't I don't love the match up, but I love thatito, going out against Colin Moore Cowell. Love it. Yeah. I don't love the match up, but I love that he's going out of 11.
Starting point is 00:34:49 How big is that? Does that leave bez in the 12 hole against Kisner? How many people are going to be following that match tomorrow? Yeah, that might be, it's dinkers and donkers out there. That might, honestly, that might mean a lot to a lot of people laying money. It's true. Honestly, like, quick reaction to seeing this slate, like, I feel like I like that draw
Starting point is 00:35:10 off of the international's. I feel like it's... We went through them quick. Let's go. JT versus Seewoo. Jordan's speed versus Cam Davis. Hold on. Let's think around them a little bit.
Starting point is 00:35:22 What do we think it? So JT, JT, CW is, I mean, CW looked awful down the last couple of holds. At times and also seemingly camp hot, which is tough. I know. That's a big ask for the international. That's tough. I don't feel good about that.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Cam Davis versus Jordan Speed. I don't know which Jordan we're gonna get, but that's interesting. Cam Davis seems to have the juice. Jordan Speed's been freaking awesome. He's carried like, JT's been totally, he's been good, but Jordan Speed's been awesome. So far to this point.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Why don't we, as we go through them one by one? That's a fun matchup. It is, but why don't we go through them one by one? We got our next guest is here. I don't know if his camera's turned on yet, but somebody that may know these guys a little bit better than we do that might be able to help share the breakdowns for each match.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Join us. I think it was PJ Championship. He was all with us. Mr. Smiley Kaufman Smiley, can you hear us? I can hear you, but I can't see y'all. But I'm trying to figure that out at the current moment. We'll, you know, emote with our voices. So we'll paint you a picture with our, with our, our verbals here.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Please, please do. How are you? What's going on? Thanks for joining. You're the man our pairings out yet. They are. Sorry, I had to go through them. Yes, let's, uh, let's run through.
Starting point is 00:36:37 All right, we're starting at the top. C. Wu Kim versus Justin Thomas. What do you, what do you like? What do you not like? I like Justin Thomas. Really? That's what, Justin Thomas really that's what smiley that's why we bring you on we're not getting that anywhere else I like Justin Thomas I know that's gonna be shocking well you're gonna hate this next group then I think cam Davis versus
Starting point is 00:36:59 Jordan's beef boy that's gonna be a Really good. Man, I've been so impressed with Cam Davis. He's got such a good golf swing. And I tell you, he just seemed like he's a kind of a rising, rising star to me. Just really impressed with him. He's a bigger kid and he's super humble, but I think he's got a lot of tools and he, dude, he bombs it. I didn't realize how far he hits it. We should have asked, so set the table for the people. What are you doing out there?
Starting point is 00:37:29 What's your, what's your week been like? Yeah, I've been working for City this week, doing about an hour promo videos, kind of setting up different parts of the president's cuff, part of the experience. The first day I did the first T kind of went around and showed what that looked like. That stadium deal the next day on 14. So yesterday we got there with JT and almost all that home and wanted. So that was cool. Today Seth Curry and I, not
Starting point is 00:37:57 Steph Curry, Seth Curry and I, walked up her hole. We kind of basically just chatted and I'm sure that video will come out soon and then tomorrow will be on the range. Seth and I will kind of basically just chatted and I'm sure that video will come out soon and then tomorrow We'll be on the range Seth and I will kind of go back and forth similar deal, but it's been a good week So but it's been a lot of fun golf to watch It's Seth as good a golfer as Steph He is not he says he shoots somewhere between 75 to 82 He's a six-hadi cap, but he is a very avid player from what I understand. So help us here. We're kind of reacting here.
Starting point is 00:38:30 We're going to pause away from the matches for a little bit on what this international team did this afternoon and the quality of play and to come back from, you know, basically, you've been out there. What's the vibe been like? Has it felt like as much of a blowout? Has it felt like on TV? And, you know, is, you've been out there. What's the vibe been like? Has it felt like as much of a blowout? Has it felt like on TV? And, you know, is it a real momentum shift going into tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:38:51 Is this kind of just laying the inevitable? You know, I think it was a huge one. I mean, the TV, just watching on TV, it really felt that way. But being on the grounds, it just, the buzz wasn't quite there this afternoon with the groups. I'm not sure if that's just a tired crowd from 36 holes or if it was just maybe the international team which is playing a little well down the stretch, but props to Trevor Oman and just keeping him patient. They just weren't making a ton of pots and the only thing I can kind of relate to that is they have such a young team and for me the first couple of times I got Monday
Starting point is 00:39:29 qualified into a PJ tour event or first couple of starts you know on tour it's the hardest thing for me is you want to make putt so bad and to me it felt like it was just a matter of time before the internatials started to make pots. And I felt like that was kind of holding them back those first three sessions. And they finally started making some pots. And I don't think Patrick Cantley's very happy right now with Tom Kim after playing with him
Starting point is 00:40:03 the last couple of afterno after news and just getting yelled at continuously Kaley is the exact guy that he That's the best he's the exact guy that would be very humorous about that Well, the rest of the world is celebrating it. It also like I Joel Damon was asked the question on Twitter Two he said, you know, what do you think their reaction is to what Tom Kim's doing? I was like dude play better like better. Like he beats you. Like, let him have a little fun with it.
Starting point is 00:40:26 I got no problem with it. Like, is that something a player would be pissed off about? A player being a opposing player being that demonstrative, smiley? Not in that situation, but I can highlight maybe why it was annoying at like just the entire time. So Tom Kim was five down with five to play on 14 and Tom Kim made like a six footer for a birdie and just yelled so loud. And I sat there and watched Tom Kim. I came over here, he was playing with yesterday after day. They were just, he was so pumped and jacked walking off the green to go
Starting point is 00:41:04 four down with four to play and Kale and and X were just, he was so pumped and jacked, walking off the green to go four down with four to play. And Kale and X were just sitting there just laughing at each other, just like, did he really just yell like I mean, it was 10 out of 10 yell. And I was so there for it, it was incredible. Joe DeLuey in the chat says, Tom Kim is golf but louder.
Starting point is 00:41:23 That's pretty damn perfect. That's very true. All right, getting back to the matches and, you know, does this mean anything? Probably not, but worth mentioning it every turn. Speed does also never won a singles match in one of these team competitions, which is the best. So no easy one against Cam Davis tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:41:42 That'll be exciting. Match three, Hideki versus Sam Burns. That's kind of a lightning fest there. That's going to be fun. I, uh, I've been so impressed with Sam Burns. For him to, what is he only have like a half a point? He's criminal. If this was like a stroke play event, he would be like in the lead. I feel like if Doc was, he's played so well.
Starting point is 00:42:02 And before you hit that shot on 18, I said to myself, I really think he might make this. And it almost flew in the hole. Oh, it's a bummer that he didn't have a chance there to make a pot. I thought the pairings were a little weird this afternoon. Thank you. I just been kind of like,
Starting point is 00:42:24 I thought Kizner would be an alternate shot player and then I didn't think he would be in the best fall. Same with Billy, I thought. Yeah, same with Billy. I honestly thought I'd see Billy and Sam in the alternate shot format. So that was a little surprising to me. And you don't, nobody's had a chance to criticize any of the decisions up to this point for the American side, but now that it's a four-point margin, I guess, you can kind of be like, well, did we have the right guys out there this afternoon?
Starting point is 00:42:58 I personally would have loved to see him candy-ong and I just don't see how you sit him and in that format. Even I don't care how tired he is. He's the best. Like he can just make so many birdies, right? I just don't see how you sit him. I think it was I've been making this point throughout the week and you sat a guy like Tony Finau with with Kisner. It was an average of 30.2 yards of gap between the two, an average. So add all that up over the course of however many holes, like that's how much closer Finault gets to the hole in off the tee. And so what really matters is how close do you get to the hole in regulation, right? Well, Kisner got inside Finault three on three holes out of the 15 that they played. And Kisner got inside, who was his partner yesterday?
Starting point is 00:43:47 He got inside six out of 18 holes. So in nine of the 36 holes that Kisner, 25% of the time, Kisner's getting the ball closer to the hole than his partner. Like that is, that's just an anchor for your partner. And on a golf course, where at what I've been, you know what the point has just been, like on a golf course that's set up for the ball to go really far
Starting point is 00:44:06 and to emphasize ball striking, how different is that versus something like the golf national when it comes to golfers at that level, which you know, you know, how are we seeing it play out like that because of the distance factor? Well, you still gotta hit fairways and that's from when I saw out there, it, the roughs not like crazy, like Bermuda roughuda rough like I've seen like I don't think balls are really
Starting point is 00:44:28 getting to the bottom a ton there are places that it is but like to your point LaNash now is that how you pronounce it that was an obvious place if you don't hit fairways it's like it's a total disadvantage I still think you can get it on the green out there at Quill Hollow, but the firmness of the greens being bermuda kind of combination makes it play fast. But Matt, to your point with Kiz, yeah, I just thought you could have found a way
Starting point is 00:44:57 to get him in the alternate shot for some format. Like, I just don't see how Tony Finau and Sam Burns or the combination of Cameron Young and Sam Burns would have lost today. Yeah. Yeah. Agree. Agree. All right, we'll move through some of these other ones a little quicker.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Match number four, Adam Scott versus Cantlay. Love that. Mm-hmm. Not gonna be a lot of smiling going on there, I don't think. What was match three again? You said it was Hideki and Sam. said it was Hadecki and Sam. Hadecki and Sam, okay. Which Hadecki, I mean, you know, shocking, seemed to be striking the show the ball today,
Starting point is 00:45:33 but just gonna be a matter of whether he'll make any puts. That's getting, it's getting very hard to watch, man. I thought, I kind of thought we were over over some of that, but that was, it was unsettling today. I think, I think maybe 10, maybe 12 more years that he may try a mallet or something, or maybe like the saw or something like that, I don't know. But I think we're-
Starting point is 00:45:50 Can we talk about CW Kim and the big putter? The broomstick. Or yeah, the broomstick? Maybe they should trade tomorrow. Maybe those should just trade putters. It looks so natural. Can you imagine a Hedeckey showing up with that thing tomorrow with that squatty putter stroke?
Starting point is 00:46:05 He's got just the squat with it. I mean, I just don't see how he misses. It would be anchored to his throat if he does that, I think. All right, where do we leave off? Match five, Scotty Sheffler and Sebastian Munoz. I actually really, that's interesting. Scotty has looked exhausted. That's a good match. I've always said that Sebastian in this format. I thought he was going to be one of their MVP's. He can make so many birdies.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Like we see it like on a random PGA tour that Sebastian Minos will be shot 28 on the front. He's like, what was this? And he does it. Like it will do it every other month We'll just like go just bonkers So you just got to watch out for that with your Scotty tomorrow I feel like Scotty and play terrible, but like just hasn't quite maybe got over the hump in this This president's cup, but that'll be a good match kind of Dallas boys going against each other the shank the shank was just
Starting point is 00:47:04 Tough one to. Oh man, how good was that? It's a tough one to recover from from the general public. Like the message after that, like, oh, he's weighing down the entire team now. I was like, I mean, it was one bad shot. Like, come on, there's plenty of them. But yeah, he's not been the Scotty that we know, but that was a tossing. Oh, there it is.
Starting point is 00:47:23 There it is. The audio was amazing though. It sounded almost so flush that you're like, wow, that was, know, but that was a tossie. There it is. There it is. The audio was amazing though. It sounded almost so flush that you were like, wow, that was perfectly shanked. Like, for me, all of how like striped it sound to be a shank. All right, moving on, match six. Taylor Pendrith and Tony Fino.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Don't really know what's gonna happen there. That's kind of interesting. Pendrith, I feel like it's had a little bit of form, but it looked kind of shitty today. I kind of like I've seen I think Fienau is going to I think that'll be one that's potentially finished in on 14. I thought Pendrith has been kind of inconsistent this week. I know we can absolutely hammer the golf ball, but Tony's I think his iron game will show off tomorrow. I also just want to say for all the jokes we've had about Tony, my associate Randy and I, never been a more heartwarming moment. I don't think that seeing him and Max together, just two happy people just absolutely love it life. I was smiling the entire time. That was like, that was such a thrill.
Starting point is 00:48:26 I was just guys just cheese each other up. It was great. I mean, Max just looked like a kid in the candy shop right there. Get whatever you want, Max. This is your day, bud. This is your day. Smiley question for you, because this is where I think a lot
Starting point is 00:48:44 people would have expected to see tom kim are will get to him he's in match ten but does that surprise you if that we haven't seen him yet in uh... in the draw uh... it's kind of weird right you would have thought i would have thought tom kim was going to be a match one to be honest uh... i really thought he was going to be one of the first two i don't know if they're using stats or... Do they just throw the lineup out and then you're paired up against who you...
Starting point is 00:49:10 Or is it back and forth? It's back and forth. It is back and forth, okay. Yeah, it's surprising. It's very surprising. Yeah, I just think that there's a... For all the stats, listen, you're not going to find anyone that loves the stats more than I do, but there's a certain emotional all the stats, listen, you're not gonna find anyone that loves the stats more than I do,
Starting point is 00:49:25 but like there's a certain emotional factor to the singles as well that I feel like your chest bump but your chest thumping guy has gotta be one of your first ones out, especially when you need to make a huge comeback. Yeah, you gotta ride your hot hands, right? That's, I feel like in this format, it's the guys that are the most confident
Starting point is 00:49:43 that have had the big moments, especially when you're down four, you gotta get some black and yellow on that on that board. By the way, I love the shield logo. I think it looks so good. It does. Yeah, it does. And like, it's not to say that Tom Kim has been incredibly demonstrative and that's been really, really fun.
Starting point is 00:50:01 He's also been freaking incredible. He won both of his matches today. He's made three Eagles today. Did I hear that right? I think I'm only counting two, but he and KH Lee went out and beat Scotty Sheffler and Sam Burns this morning. And then he comes out in four ball this afternoon.
Starting point is 00:50:18 And on his own ball, he birdies five, seven Eagles 11, birdies 12, and birdies 18 from 235 to win it. Like it's not just been antagonizing, like he has the play to match it. Cody, thank you for putting that comment up. I was just going to do it myself, but Joe DeLueg, absolutely. I have to have to wonder if real labor issues are affecting tops preferred departure time. We'll talk about that on the trap drop perhaps next week. Joe, Joe, that's, that's, that's why that's too good for this show. My only counter and kind of riding for, for Trevor
Starting point is 00:50:52 is I know he's 20 years old, but he's also been running at 2000 miles an hour for, for three straight days here. He might be, he might like, you don't, again, you don't want to put him out first and just haven't get his ass beat by JT either. And it could be a bit of a letdown for Tom Kim tomorrow. I hope not. And I know it's very like you're not going to win probably unless he is doing that same thing, but that's maybe a consideration. He's been doing a lot. Yeah. Matt, he gets to hang out on the tee. He gets to, you know, be the biggest cheerleader they have for the folks on Matt. Stroke sign, Matt. Stroke's gained cheerleaders, what Randy's going for on the first tee.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Yeah, I mean, but I mean, they're not getting a lot of cheers from other places. So that they got to create their own excitement. I think, you know, I just think I would have put them either where Penderith or Conners is. If we want to keep going, I think that's the next match up. Yeah. So match seven Corey Conners versus Zander. That is, man, that's tough for the international's just based on how Corey's been playing,
Starting point is 00:51:53 but a bit of a day off today, hopefully he flips it on and shows a little more form. What's been the issue with Corey Conners this week? I've heard multiple people say it's not in form. Is it just kind of everything's off or what's the deal? It's, yeah, I mean, it's a few good shots and he does not make the putt to pay it off. He just has not ball striking has really not been there. One, yeah, and he just gives himself so few opportunities and hasn't been able to take advantage of him.
Starting point is 00:52:19 But it's just he's a ball striking machine and not a very good putter overall. And it's, yeah, when the ball striking goes, he just has not had anything to offer the team this week, unfortunately, which... Yeah, I noticed that. It was, I think they played Jordan or Cory played had a couple pots. Like it was the day when JT made that like 20 footer on 15 up
Starting point is 00:52:39 the hill. Cory had like a seven footer on 14. If he makes that, they go one up. And then on 15, JT makes that putt. It was just like, I've seen multiple times of moments like that where the international just got like, I don't know if it was out experienced or just, you know, the moment was too big,
Starting point is 00:52:59 earlier in the week, but that's, you know, I just kept on seeing situations like that where that's where I was like, man, this is gonna be a route, you know, but that's you know, I just kept on seeing situations like that where that's where I was like man It's gonna be a route, you know like they haven't done they put themselves there and then they just never could could quite get over the hub Yeah Match number eight good one sun J. M versus came young. That's gonna be exciting excited to see that one a lot of birdies Yeah, what's the look awesome on that one. A lot of birdies. Yeah. What's the J looked awesome on that one, you think? Say that again. What's the, what's the Vegas line on that, you think? I can pull these up.
Starting point is 00:53:30 If I may say I've been just a tad disappointed and came young, he is, the putters been pretty, been pretty disappointing. He has had a lot of puts both in, you know, mostly in foursums from, from really good iron plate from his partners and he's got saddle with it with the spot of you know, if you're going to be the guy teen off the odd holes, you're going to have to make a lot of putts like you're going to be the one, you know, you know, you know, you know, playing from somebody else's approach shots and hitting a lot of the putts. That's just the way it works with the regulation holes in that in that way and he just hasn't hasn't made the putts man. He was not as I'm really taken to the next level, which I think a lot of people were potentially looking forward to that this week. But, I don't disagree with that,
Starting point is 00:54:08 but I mean, it's, he reminds me of like a young Dustin Johnson, just in his demeanor. He hits it so hard, and it just seems so effortless and, and carefree. Like, I know there will never be
Starting point is 00:54:20 another person like Dustin Johnson, and the way he plays golf, and talks about golf. But Cammy on kind of resembles a little bit of that. Dustin Johnson just don't really care. I just hit bombs right down the middle of the fairway and don't say a whole lot. And that's, I don't know if that comparison is there with you all, but it's kind of like the only person I've ever felt like is Simmer and the way they kind of go about the game. There is no lack of, there's no unsuridness at all.
Starting point is 00:54:51 I don't know if that's a word or not and came young, but the bigger the moment, it just seems like the harder he ends up swinging. Like the more it's just like, okay, I'm gonna fucking send this. Like, all you think I'm nervous, watch this. T-degree and it's still fantastic to watch. Sung J is minus 120 and came young as plus 100 of course courtesy of the draft. I was curious if Sung J was going to be favorite.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Yeah. Sung J's played pretty darn well. I mean, he's been saddled, been weighed down by Cory Conner's anchor in the ForSums. And when he's been playing his own ball, I feel like he's a he's a threat every time he's gotten iron in his hand. Yeah, for sure. And I had issues with the way Trevor, a moment moment put out his lineup for the first couple days. Me and you smiley. Me and you. I was so confused why they like split up Camer Davis and Seewoo and they'd like sent back out Adam and Hadecki who like played horribly in that that first session. But like why not send out the guys that just got you the only point again out in the afternoon. So there's just been some, I've been a little bit confused by the pairings at times,
Starting point is 00:55:49 especially more with the international side, but definitely with a little bit of the Kizner Cam Young, Billy, I just was kind of lost in that, but to be pretty easy with this single, they just got to go on and get their points. But yeah. Randy's in so much agreement with you. He switched to the ghost avatar as well as his video has cut out. Oh man, that's how he's fist puffed in the air. He lost the second night in a row. This is what happens with Randy.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Kind of deep in that seventh inning. His stuff is not there anymore. I can't go three times through the order. Yeah, exactly. Everybody knows his tricks. All right, next match. We left off on nine, I think, KH Lee and Billy Horshull. Don't really know what to expect on that one.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Billy's been very much kind of bleh. If I could take the over under in this match as far as the amount of holes played, I would take the over 17. I just don't see how this match is not going to the 18th hole. Yeah, it doesn't seem like a blowout. Maybe not the best golf in the world, but it's not, you know, I don't see how this matches not going to the 18 hole. Yeah, it doesn't doesn't seem like a blowout. Maybe not the best golf in the world, but it's not, you know, I don't think anyone's going anywhere. It's going to 18. Billy Ho is minus 135 K H Lee
Starting point is 00:56:53 plus 115. That feels, yeah, I might, I might ride with my guy K H on that one. Billy, I think it's going to run the risk of getting saddled in the same, you know, sentence with Kisner and Billy played. He had some moments. He had some moments of hitting some really good irons. And to your point, Smiley, I think like if you'd have paired him with a bomber where he was hitting a lot of approach shots, and that could have made a lot more sense than him playing his own ball for two sessions, same with Kisner.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Right. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, that's nothing against these guys. And just I thought, we could have used a Kevin Kizner way more effectively than we have thus far. My only counter to that was that their mindset seemed to have been, hey, four sums, like we're going to go and smash the shit out of them. Like we're going to go, we're going to send all the best players and four sums and they
Starting point is 00:57:42 can't match us. And we're going to get all our points there to make it mathematically impossible that they can't really beat us. That's the only defense I'll give of not putting those guys out in for. And it worked. Yeah, it's part that part worked. Match number 10, I would tell the featured groups, the number one match. Tom Kim versus Max Homa. Smiley.
Starting point is 00:58:04 What are you about to? Oh, man, this is all, this is all new to me. They're here in the matches. This is amazing. Uh, Gully, uh, what's the odds for solely? That's minus. I'm very curious. Max is minus 135 Tom Kim plus 115. Wow.
Starting point is 00:58:22 It's a lot of respect for Max. I'm riding with Max there. Uh, I love Tom Kim, but I think I don't know which one of you plus one 15. Wow. It's a lot of respect for Max. I'm riding with Max there. I love Tom Kim, but I think, I don't know, which one of y'all mentioned Tom Kim's energy level, but I do think Max home was just going to wear him down. Yeah, that's, we've seen this before. We're dudes that run around and with their, like, with their heads cut off for a while by the time it gets to Sunday.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Can I counter that? He's 20. He's 20. You shouldn't be tired. Oh, he just saw Carlos Alcras. It's not a physical tire to the US open. Like a mental exhaustion. It's a mental exhaustion.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Ah, you're 20. You can sleep after it's done. You can even thought about all the extra, you know, effort he's had to put extra pairs of pants on and all the changing that goes into that, like all the stress that comes with that. But that's true. But he doesn't know any better. That's going to be so fun tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:59:09 So one of the commenters kept saying he was cool blowing out pants. It's a phrase that just really always gets me. That's really good stuff. Match 11, Mito versus Colin Moore, Cala, who I keep forgetting is on the team. Quietly two time major, Xavier just kind of, oh yeah, by the way, if you need him, he's there too. It's good as he was on day one and he sat yesterday. He was not good this morning. He and he and Cameron were did not make for a very good pairing this morning. So total, total armchair and hindsight of saying like, well, he sat him and he lost the hot streak and he played horrible this morning.
Starting point is 00:59:46 You should have wrote him on Friday, but that's, that's definitely using hindsight to say that. But uh, uh, just worth noting that Morco was, was not, not good this morning. And Mito didn't play at all today. He did not need their or Bizzadon Hode. The last two guys played it all. Who knows what we're going to get there. And then last match, yeah, Bizzadin Hope versus Kevin Kizner, which is, see a super fun match if it all came down to those two guys. It would be very interesting.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Yeah, it would be very interesting. Yeah, I don't really know what I'm thinking there. If it feels like Kizner lives for the 1v1 match play though, I feel like that's, I don't think that match won't matter for anything, but hypothetically if it did, that's a very tall ask for a Bizzaden who. Yeah, I was a little surprised that I haven't seen Kis hold a ton of plots this week that I'm accustomed to seeing, or just those kind of big moments that we can see with kids, get that platter hot. So maybe we'll see it tomorrow, but kind of back to that match before.
Starting point is 01:00:50 I feel like we were robbed a little bit with Mito Pereira. I feel like that Joaquim Neiman Mito Pereira pairing is exactly what we should have seen. That would have been an incredible pairing. Between those two guys, obviously we didn't get it, but I'd love Mito's game. And who's he pointing at? He's playing Morcal. Morcal. Morcal, yeah. For Gideys on the team.
Starting point is 01:01:16 That was actually a great line. Because you just haven't heard a whole lot about him this week. Yeah, he didn't look great earlier. I kind of fancy Mito potentially to steal one there, but that last match, I mean, Kiz is your, all those guys on that team got a lot of faith in Kiz and I wouldn't be surprised to see him get that job done late.
Starting point is 01:01:36 All right, we'll get you out of here on this final score. So it's 11 to 7 now. What do you think the final score is tomorrow night? Well, I told Colt, I said, hey, what do you think, he asked what do you think the final score is tomorrow night? Well, I told Colt. I said, Hey, what do you think he asked? What do you think it's going to be going into singles? And this is before we got going. I said, I think it's going to be a four point lead.
Starting point is 01:01:52 And we that's not what we asked. That's not what we asked. I was I'm going to hide you. I myself, but after hearing those matches, I think, uh, I think maybe the international's can maybe get four points tomorrow. Uh, but I think it's going to be a, I think it's going to be all all read on the board tomorrow. Well, we know your Tigers are on TV as we speak, so we greatly appreciate it even more than we normally do if you pop it on and shoot the shit with us greatly appreciate Smiley. Well, the, I know my zoom thanked and work where you couldn't see my face, but maybe I was just accidentally watching the other so you game next to me. It's called multitasking.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Who is it? Who's in that match again? I miss that one. First down. Good stand Tigers. Oh, guys, I appreciate you all having me on and happy to hop on anytime anytime. Thanks, buddy. Thanks. First down All right, let's play cash app game for those that don't know of course hopefully you've got a cash a cash tag already ready to go We know many of you do our drop in comments and on the regular Some up today's action in three words if you include your cash tag in there.
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Starting point is 01:03:40 to youth on course. Dej, what are your three words to summarize the day? I always go first, Randy, you go first. I think I went first yesterday, but my three words are a puncher's chance. I think it's probably all that the international team, certainly coach and woman could have asked for. Thursday morning, just give me a puncher's chance, come singles,
Starting point is 01:04:04 and they have put themselves in that position. That's really good. I'm going to use, I'll give you a little more time. I'm going to use Trust the Process. I think both on this show, I think especially, Trevor Emelman's process has been called into question with some of his picks where to be fair, you're not breaking those guys out because we didn't have anything else to do.
Starting point is 01:04:24 That's very true. It's very true. But he stuck to the plan. He has emphasized that many times when interviews is stick to the plan, stick to the plan. And again, in case you have lost track of this, which I don't know how you could, this is a beleaguered international team. Like losing four dudes that definitely definitely should
Starting point is 01:04:44 have been on this team and playing most of the matches to scrape out to be within four of what I would consider to be a juggernaut US team is incredible. I guess incredible golf. I'm not, I was not being funny when I thought that I thought, when I thought they might lose 23 to seven because like the talent gap is that big. They're getting. And it's still in play. If it is technically in play.
Starting point is 01:05:04 And I felt pretty good at eight to two that it was very much in play as well, even going to the afternoon session, which, but it's a testament to trusting of the process and those dudes having some self belief and being put into position to succeed because they're outperforming their median talent level, if you will, in production level
Starting point is 01:05:23 and doing it on the road against an extremely deep US team. And I have tremendous, tremendous respect to that. And thanks for that because it's giving us a lot more interesting television to watch. I'll go with maybe the most cliche one that there is, but I'm struggling to come up with another one. I'm going to go with Grow the Game. Randy, that's just for you. And what I mean by that is, I think Tom Kim made a ton of fans today.
Starting point is 01:05:50 And the point of doing this is to have a premiere event in international TV markets, as well. Korea is already a massive golf market. They've had a president's cup in the past. There's a lot of Korean players on the team They've had a president's cup in the past. There's a lot of Korean players on the team and they had a dude out there running around fist pumping and Patrick Cantlay's face.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Like I think that guy is going to be a fucking rock star like all over the world now. And that's, I had a feeling that probably wasn't gonna last to be a, they're a gun fell. They're a gun fell. But I didn't think that was, that was probably the rapid up signal for that point. But I'm going to go with grow the game. I have a feeling that this little comeback by the international's has officially
Starting point is 01:06:36 licensed the US team to bring out the bring out the antics a little bit tomorrow and bring out the crowd pumping up and adding a whole another. If you're up by like 10 and you're doing that. It's a tough look Whereas if you're only up four and you you know, you want to win by 10 I think they're gonna I expect JT to be out there slapping the floor tomorrow and run when he's running back on defense Which is which is fantastic. I agree with you. I it it It feels like a real sporting event now, right? To where before it was just like, I kind of felt like varsity versus JV.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Yeah. And which like, again, is it likely to have flipped the final result of it? No, but dude, there's like two events where that final scene happens, where you get to see those dudes run around and celebrate with each other and it just It just felt like one after another after another after another there at the end and it was just sports
Starting point is 01:07:31 It was somebody had a tweet reply that just had sports greater than sports washing and that was very healthy comment in that moment I love just seeing someone like SungJM who we watch every week on the PJ tour and I don't know that I've ever seen him smile. And he's out there just fucking beaming running around with his teammates and it's just, I don't know, just adds a whole other layer of kind of context and color and, you know, just thoughts about all these guys. So it's just, it's great. Did you ever wrangle the the individual player records DJ
Starting point is 01:08:05 I've it's been a struggle to try to find it but you know I didn't that's shocking that that would not be readily available on a billion dollar companies website but no it is not not available I can't can't find it anywhere. Yeah they don't do it on the Wikipedia. You mean just for this week or overall just for the week just for the week. Yeah just would love to know like who's three, one, and oh, or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. And speaking of that, how is there not a bottom, like a bottom line type scoreboard for all the matches?
Starting point is 01:08:35 I know, Saul, I know that's your block, but it just hit me today. Like, what the hell are we doing, NBC? This is, this is, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. It's, no, it's good to just have up there for 14 straight hours that it's eight to two though. Yeah, it's insane. I know that score is gonna change for four hours, but we'll just leave that up there.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Yeah, yeah. Well, and it's also, it's not like they haven't already made this change in stroke play. You're just totally forgetting to copy over the graphic and ref it despite many people calling it out refusing to even remotely try to change it mid tournament. And oh god. I'm I've resigned. Hampshire down. They've beaten me. They've won. They've crushed my soul. I mean, just, in my head budgeted, like, I'll be the only to see the T-Shots on 17
Starting point is 01:09:27 and the four ball, the two matches there left. Like, why, you know, there's two friggin' holes left. And we don't need to actually see the action. So, that's, they won. They beat me. Can I give you as the darkest thought that popped into my head today? Please, please.
Starting point is 01:09:41 How much money do you think Tom give is worth to live tonight? To not go play the fight around. please, please. How much money do you think Tom give his worth to live tonight? To not go play the fight around. What do you think the number is? I want to hear the actual number from you. $100 million. I would say $7. Well, I was going to say $50.
Starting point is 01:09:59 $7. Yeah. What a guy got a walk off. Can't can't go out tomorrow. Yeah. Well, you can't tell him. A limited go out tomorrow. Yeah, well you can't tell me I'm limited pants. I feel like you can't tell anybody. You just like can't show up like just don't show up No, I think you got to be like in one of their promo videos like with the zoom from your place Just like yeah, I'm just so thrilled to be given this opportunity to I'm sure to keep crushers. Yeah
Starting point is 01:10:23 Oh God, I think that is, that really crossed my mind. It may be a lot for quite a while today. Oh, that would, that might be the one to break me. That might be, uh, live just, let me, let me, let me, let me just get that. Here it looks like you guys are enjoying that.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Let me just, uh, let me just grab that for me real quick. Cody, Cody, we forgot to wrap the cash up, It looks like you guys are enjoying that. Let me just grab that from you real quick. Cody, we forgot to wrap the cash up, Gabe. You're good to, thank you for everyone submitting me your three word answers on the day. That was, we left that one open for a while. If you didn't win, you probably didn't deserve it. Play that.
Starting point is 01:10:59 Then look next time, yeah, play better. Final score prediction, before we get out of here. You know for for for draft King season long contest purposes, really hope it's somewhere between 17 and 13 to 19 to 11. Just really hoping it falls somewhere in there. I love where you're sitting. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:11:23 I do too. I in that same contest, I banked 19-11 coming into the week. I feel really, really nice about that. Yeah. I think the US will get to 18 and a half tomorrow. So, whatever that is, is that 11 and a half on the other side, 18 and a half 11 and a half? So, seven point win.
Starting point is 01:11:40 I think it will be. It's all well not official yet. Will you apologize for calling for a 23 to seven pile? No, it was plus 1200. It was a long shot, okay? And I as of, and it's not dead yet. I, that's why I said it's not, it's not a other question. I will not apologize for that.
Starting point is 01:11:57 It was, I was not adamant about it. It was a little sprinkle. I rather than try to guess the correct score. I was like, at least give me a little bit of a range here. Something, you know, again, it was at one point looking like it could in 14 to four today. It obviously did not, but no, I don't regret that at all. I think, I think that was actually a really smart play.
Starting point is 01:12:16 I would not apologize. That was a, that was a sprinkled in play. That was not a statement. The year big tone might continue. You might get the clincher tomorrow. If they come out, you know, all cylinders firing. I feel like Big Tone's put a smile on my face every time he's come on the TV. It's been great watch of this week. No two bigger fans than you and I.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Exactly. And having gone through all that with him, Randy, I think it's great to see our faith finally paid off. Exactly. And see him turning to kind of to see our faith finally paid off. Exactly. And see him turn into kind of an American superstar. That's great. I'm just going to see if these two buttons work. Yep, they do work. Yeah, these two are officially muted. One thing to work, significant to some will be to watch both the JT and Speed matches
Starting point is 01:12:59 tomorrow because the battle for top point score will be coming down to one of them. Unless they both lose and Max wins, then he's able to to tie them at four. No one else has three. Is that correct? Honestly, that is correct. Okay. I know Ben Coley tweeted this earlier. I'm gonna see if I can find it. I don't have the the records with it, but total points. Yeah, no, I got it. Homo's on three and then JT and Speed are on four and everybody else is two or below. Cantlay, Shoffley, Finaus, Scott Davis and both Kims have two points and then at 1.5 is Cam Young, Sungjae and Munoz and then 1.0 more. Kaua Horsal, the Matsuyama, half point Burns, Sheffler, Kiznir, Puerra, Biseidenhout and
Starting point is 01:13:42 then zero are the okay enough brothers. I think going back to the 2370, if the international's come back and waiting you should have to do half most cash tomorrow. That's so insulting. 23 and seven is so diminishing, demeaning. I think my thought process was perfect on it. I regret absolutely not of it. They have a 3% chance of winning.
Starting point is 01:14:07 You won't risk a half mustache. I, and it finishes 23, seven DJI, and I will go half mustache. I'm happy you will. You know we're good for that. I 100% know you well, but in 20, 78, you will pay off the half mustache bet. Anything else we have?
Starting point is 01:14:24 I feel like we might have short we might have short-changed the the the morning for some session a little bit. Tomorrow night I like to grade each player by the end of it and they're overall performance if we can. But, it would be like actual grading or grade inflation grading. What's the difference? Well, you know, there's a lot of people in English great inflation going on. Yeah. We can talk about it all. We'll be prepared tomorrow. Okay. I'm excited to watch the final round tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:14:53 This was a long, long day of golf, but overall worthwhile. Worth a while to see a little bit of a fun action there at the end. So, with that, I think we will sign it off here tonight. Jeff's on the say there, Randy. You look like you were ready to do it. with that, I think we will sign it off here tonight. Jeff's gonna say they're any, you look like you were ready to do. No, we're just gonna try to get through the order. We're gonna try to pitch a complete game tomorrow with the setup.
Starting point is 01:15:13 I really thought we had it. We're gonna try to figure out what's going on here. Did you camera overheat? I think it's overheating. There's a computer camp process all that. Code man, I don't know what's going on. You tried, you gave it a hell of an effort. I will say one thing, young hitter,
Starting point is 01:15:28 Loan Cogland fired 170 today, sitting right at T18. So need a big round tomorrow. Why does that matter? Big. Well, I think first to get her into the Asian swing, first and foremost. And if she were to top top five could go a long way to maybe get in the tour championship in November, top 60. She's, I believe she's down in like
Starting point is 01:15:51 the mid to low 80s at the moment. Did you guys, how do you, I know, I know, surely you don't want to jinx anything big, but how is she looking at just as far as simply keeping card? Are we locked up? Yeah, we should we should be fine. Especially with this week, we should be fine. I want to give a shout to Rasmus Hoigard today, slept on a six shot lead and came out and quinted the second hole. He made an eight on the par three. There was an outrageous, outrageous stat that I sent to you guys earlier. Try again, face time and have during the second hole.
Starting point is 01:16:26 Trying to talk to him about the Ryder Cup team's next year. He said the weekend of Trondon last very long. Rasmus came in. He got Boat, he got petalized, three shots. He came out and he had negative eight shots gained in ball striking today, which is truly off the planet. Had positive 5.5 strokes gain putting,
Starting point is 01:16:47 which is top point 1% of golf rounds, and managed to keep a lunch out league later tomorrow. What an outrage just round of golf. Just win, man. Just find a way to get in the hole. Scoreboard does not take pictures. That's right.
Starting point is 01:17:00 But all right, let's wrap it. Thank you guys for tuning in, Cody. Anything else we missed, Cody? Nope. All right, thank you for running the ones and twos. Randy, Dej, we'll see you back here tomorrow night to wrap up the 2022 Presence Cup. Thanks everyone for watching while college football is on.
Starting point is 01:17:17 You guys are incredibly, incredibly loyal. Slash sickos, so. Including you, smiley. Including you. All right, cheers boys. Take care. See you That's better than most That is better than most. Better than most!

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