No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 633: Sony Open Recap

Episode Date: January 16, 2023

The first full field PGA Tour event of 2023 served up a great final round as Si Woo Kim finished birdie-birdie to win the Sony Open by a shot over Hayden Buckley. We break down the finish in Honolulu, some..... improvements.... in the television coverage, the designated vs non-designated events, Hideki's woeful putting and Spieth's MC. Then it's on to a variety off off-course items to cover including the Netflix golf documentary trailer, PGA Tour players getting releases to play in the Saudi International, some LIV lawsuit updates and a ton more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. Jargers, Jags, recap slash Sony, open recap DJ pies here. Hello, pie man. Hey, Soli. Thanks for having me. Great weekend of sitting in front of the TV.

Excited for it. Excited to talk about it. TC is here up and down roller coaster emotion of a weekend. How we doing? TC. I'm on the struggle bus with you, man. It was, I took a four hour nap today. I'm in one of those.

I'm never drinking again. Moads right now. So what a night'm never drinking again. Modes right now. So what a night. What a night. One of the best nights of my life. Straight up. Incredible. Not one of the best nights of the year,

but maybe one of the best nights of your life. I mean, it's only January 15th, you know? It was a gate. They were losing so badly that I was just like, we just kept drinking like even heavier. We're just switching up alcohols. Like, all right, well, I'm going to the cranberry high new now. I'm a try pair now I'm gonna go for some rye whiskey and then like when they started coming back It's like oh gosh it might have been might have been going a little too hard at this

But anyways, we'll save some some Jags talk I think for the end this podcast is brought to you by our friends at titleist and Foot joy Guys if you'll if you'll allow me, I'm just going to kind of run through what happened today in the Sony Open because I'm just going to assume not everyone was watching this. It's a bold assumption. I know I've seen the ratings for this past week. I just don't know if everyone saw this. So stop me and interject when you guys are ready to, but see who Kim has won the Sony Open, but how we got there. It looked like Hayden Buckley. It was going to be Hayden Buckley, the kind of the whole time.

He then missed a very relatively short birdie putt on nine, par 3, 11, they set it up very well. There's the pin just tucked right over that bunker in front of that green. He missed short in that bunker and missed a relatively easy par putt there. And then Seawoo birdies the 12th at that very minute. That was when it was, it's Seawoo Kim time, quote, from Seawoo Kim. And that was to tie the lead. And then Buckley turns around and dreams of bomb on 14 to take a one shot lead back.

And then misses a shorty on 15, drains a birdy on 16 to regain a one shot lead. And at the same time Seawoo Kim chips in from the back of the 17th green, the par three to tie the lead again. Then we get to 72nd hole and Seawoo sets up on the, 18 it wild, I sick. Like I just watch guys just go do the wildest shit

on this hole. They're so uncomfortable on it. They're basically teaming it up on the road and I've never seen someone tear it up, drive her height above driver height and hit a three wood, try to hit a three wood over the trees. Has anybody ever seen that play before? That's terrifying.

Like, that's idiot mark central. Just going right under the ball. I mean, Zinger was nervous as hell. You know? He couldn't even spit. I feel like I can hand it, manage the height, okay? Usually I'm alright with the bottom of the swing. So close to the team marker, I can't do.

That's my path is so shitty that that's the stuff that really rattles me. TC, I know you've got the same memory, rattle it around in your head. We played with us. I'm not gonna air them out. I'll just say an unnamed celebrity at Jack's Beach Muni one time who teed up so close to the team marker.

I believe it was maybe a six iron into the number nine at Jack's Beach Community. And me and TCR are looking at, and it was the classic like T, it really close to the left marker and then stand outside the markers, like Phil used to do all the time. We're both looking at each other like,

there's no fucking way. Like this is definitely, he doesn't have enough space, there's no way this is gonna work. And sure enough, it comes down flushes the ball, flushes the ball. Like the ball escapes, you know, the kick got away fine. And then the Hoss will just absolutely slam into the team marker. Wasn't expecting to launch into that story, but what am I, what am I true golf memories,

you know, that I'll hold dearly forever? It is true scar tissue. Like I will never see someone line up that close to a team marker and not think of that ever again. It makes me physically uncomfortable. So C. Wu tries to blow, I don't really fully know what he was trying to do if he was trying to go over the bunker. It hits it clean, by the way.

We should have set that up, buddy. It's a totally fine. Just kind of pulls it into the bunker. Into the bunker and then hits an awesome long iron out of that bunker and gets it to release From the Bermuda up a hill onto the front of that green for an easy to putt birdie To get in with the clubhouse lead. It was kind of it kind of whiffs of the Zach Blair You know, what did what did Zach say? Oh my god, that's so good. Oh my god. Yeah, it was a little That was to that chasing it up there into 18

That was a great pin to like that, you know, tucked up on that right side. That's where the trouble is. Essentially where Hayden Buckley hit his is where you don't want to hit it. So you'll get there. But I was blown away on CWU shot of how little spin he had on it too.

Like because that's kind of an elevated green. And for that to come out of a fairway bunker and not just have, you just have crazy spin on it and just kind of sit there in front of the green, it's wild, it got such a great bounce. And also to not fat it, right? Like to have all that spin off of it and still not hit it fat,

which is like the tendency out of those bunker shots. For someone like me, maybe not for him, but. It was a sexual sound out of a bunker. That shot, I mean, it echoed in the it was so flush. And then so Buckley hits a three wood off the tee and kind of fades in and kind of rush it runs up into the first cut runs up against the second cut. Kind of just looks a little bit awkward has like 260 in tries to hit a five iron and miss a short right, which they just they set that shot.

John Wood set that shot up so well. Like that was the exact shot he couldn't hit. And it doesn't really pop on camera. How tough that up and down is from the front right. But they also did a great job of setting that up and showing how much easier Lipski's shot was from a little bit closer to, you know, he couldn't hold it on the down slope, runs 12 feet by,

and he misses the putt. And he will, Kim wins again. And I just got to say, this is a weird win. I feel like this whole fall and into this part of the year is such a win for the Presidents Cup in that, dude, I just like see so many of these guys in a different light. I mean, watching Seawoo shush people

and like straight up give it to JT and laugh at Kisner's jokes in the handshake line at the Presidents Cup. Just like, make sure, appreciate, you just see a guy in one different light other than just like competing in PGA Tour, like normal PGA Tour events, he can give you a whole different perspective on him

and kind of help you place their careers. And it just made me like, I don't know, enjoy a C. Wook him win a little bit more. You took the words out of my mouth, Sully. That's, I had that on my mind the entire day. And it just kind of gives you that little edge too, where you know, you've got a lot of these guys coming down the stretch, no offense to Hayden Buckley.

I'm sure he's a great guy. But you know, when you got a leaderboard of fairly anonymous dudes up there, just that little presence cup thing from squirre the way in the back of your mind just kind of gives you that slight edge of kind of who to pull for. And I was found myself pulling for Seawoo for probably, you know, one of the few times ever.

Like I've never really had a great reason to root for him. But yeah, I'm with you. It was fun to watch. Plus he's absolutely stunting on everybody. You should fashion. 100%. I'm being dead serious. You should get that shirt TC. I'm going to find it. I think you can pull it off. It would be that would be dick, dick rider achievement on

lot. You're out there. What where that PJ tour shirt? This could be a good thing for our draft kicks pool. I got a loser pool in the future of like you have to wear the PJ tour pants. His pants say PGA tour on the top left of him, right? And I think that has to be a punishment of sub-ky that someone has to like seriously wear them and not ignore like part of the bet is that you can't acknowledge that this is a bit like

that you can seriously like you have to pretend like you you only wear PGA tour pants. I mean I'm it's like the I feel like he needs a PGA tour hat too like the roblo we're rocking the shield create a player. Yeah, I like that. What did the shirt say? It had words, letters, jumbas, kind of like, but it was like upside down. Is that did it say that on repeat?

It looked like it said, it's hard at one point. I swear I thought I saw it in there. Like it did not look like it actually said PGA tour. No, I think it was art, man. It was, you know, the interpretation of the word PGA tour, maybe. I'm trying to find it, like I can't find, I mean, where this, I don't think they have.

They all, members only. It's in the moat shop. Yeah, you're gonna have to storm the castle if you're gonna try to get your hands on one of those. I think you got a biofetics cup hoodie and then you get one of those for free throw-down. I think that's the only way to get one of those. You need like 38 fetics cup points

that you can trade in for one of those. T. like 38 FedEx cup points that you could trade in for for one of those TC like a Chuck E. Cheese. I need some tickets. Exactly. I'm I have nothing really to add a ton on Hayden Buckley other than he really has been playing some some very decent golf leading up to this. He had a great showing the US Open last year kind of thought he'd go going a little run after that and it kind of started out a little bit after that. He actually had a really good fall. For the listeners that may not have noticed that until today, I'm sure it's stuck. I definitely have noticed this all the way up to this.

It was all over this. But his stroke is moving averages is going in the right direction. He's playing some very good golf. Personally, I can't do the takeaway. I can't do it. It just awkward. I think he's going to shank it every time. Maybe it looks more normal in person,

but it just is painful to watch on television. I've I struggle with that. I don't know where you guys are at there. I'm with you man. I can't do the takeaway and he's got some off brand Scotty footwork going on too, but man, heck of a player. That swing I kind of expected to kind of expect that the pop up in one of Gankus's

Instagram Reels, you know, with like, holding all the different like, up over, rerout back, like, and then just all kinds of speed through. It's, yeah, I wouldn't say super aesthetically pleasing, but fun to watch, you know, fun to watch different swings. I don't know why it stuck with me,

but David Lipsky's swing. I'm not maybe wild about the whole, the PXG booster juice, whole aesthetic, but God his golf swing was fun to watch. Kind of like Max's golf swing a little bit. Just like never even thinks about leaving plain. It was fun to watch. Hayden Buckley's got a good story too, from Mississippi. I don't think he was recruited at all into Mizzou. They said 15th man at Mizzou or something, right?

That's awesome. I think truly like- True, like, there were 15 minutes. No, I think that's what they kept saying on the broadcast, which, you know, not to pretend like I knew all too much about him before watching today, but yeah, I think he was like 15th out of 15 on the team. Everybody's blown him up like, how did you become the guy who made 15, that of 15 on the on the team. Everybody's blown

him up like, how did you become the guy who made it to the PJ tour? This is stupid. But yeah, I love love stories like that. I don't know that I'm always dialed into to watch him every Sunday, you know, which is why I think it's it's nice contrast from last Sunday. But yeah, when they pop up, it's great. I love the thing about his dad and the the wristband and the point 0 0 6%. Like that's that stuff's great, you know, I love the thing about his dad in the the wristband and the 0.006 percent. Like that's that stuff's great. You know, I don't necessarily need it on TV all the time, but it's interesting that it's out there.

Glad the tournaments are going on. For those that didn't see the Monday Q info had a tweet that has dad wears a bracelet that says 0.06 percent and that's the amount of pro golfers that make it to the PGA tour, which is a cool story. I have a question for you guys. How is it because I feel like I'm trying to notice change that these kind of things are sticking out to me and I'm tricky myself into it,

but it feels like they're doing a better job of like telling the story a little bit. Like I didn't feel like I needed to do a Wikipedia dive on Hayden Buckley, which I usually feel like that on the back nine of some of these small, non-designated events, I'm like, all right, I gotta have something for the pod. And it just feels like they, I don't know, this kind of, this crew, this kind of different crew

with a different kind of mojo seems to have prioritized that a little bit. Am I crazy? Am I too much of a derider here 15 minutes into this? Or I just wanna acknowledge progress. I got a lot to say about that. I think it's definitely incremental in nature, but it feels more personal, right?

It feels less generic, less hate and buckly went to a mizou kind of thing. And more like, all right, like, hey, I talked to Hayden Buckley on the range. It seems like they're doing more homework, right? They know the guys better. I thought they'd been over backwards trying to tell some of those stories, even when they're clearly

like wasn't much there. At least they were, they were given a shot when Ralph's out there like an interesting thing about Hayden Buckley as he doesn't like to watch golf on TV. I was like, I don't know if that's as interesting as you thought that was gonna sound, but I appreciate you making the effort. I appreciate you pushing for it.

And I thought honestly on the, I think that's kind of like the non-Golf stuff. I thought on the golf stuff, it was pretty exceptional today. Again, like a million and a half reasons to not watch this golf tournament, but hopefully it's kind of a, you know, hopefully kind of a whisper of things to come. I thought the John Wood stuff you mentioned, pointing out Lipski being where he was versus where Buckley was short-right was great. Zinger talking about the way the bunker was raked and how that can affect the lie.

I thought it was super interesting. Zinger talking, I just, I think Zinger, I will say it. Again, I know I said this last week, like he becomes kind of a meme with the pressure stuff, which I thought he was better about today. But I think he actually seems a little more comfortable this year. And I think he's getting in dude drawing on more of his own experiences, which we can talk about his comment about being on the pack. But on the golf stuff too, I thought he was like, I thought they've kind of bringing it.

And I almost, you know, would hazard a comment to say, I feel kind of smarter after watching it than I did when I started, which is, which is always the goal. So props to them. Keep it up, because I know it's a very, very long season, but I think it's been good. I will just say, I it up, because I know it's a very, very long season, but I think it's been good. I will just say, I mean, I say this almost every chance I get though. John Woods freaking incredible.

And it's not gonna, again, it's never gonna blow you away, but what you don't, he just makes every shot, he adds 10% context to every shot of like, what to look out for, what the considerations here. When he doesn't have much to add, he'll ask a great question or he'll tell a story of here's, like, Kutcher, he had a fade, so this T-Shot was a nightmare for him, but Hunter May add, he'll ask a great question or he'll tell a story of here's a Coacher he hits a he had a fade so this T-shirt was a nightmare for him But 100 Mayhands used to hit a he could hit a draw right around the corner

This was super easy little stuff. They had about the yardage books about how is it mark long that does the yardage books They were saying and how he has gunned puts pictures in there of trees and what the carry distance is the different parts of the fairway And how that works for that golf course with the firm fairways and the dog legs are not where, you know, it's not where like only half the field can cover it, right? It's like everyone can cover it, the dog leg, but what kind of strategy do you wanna take? It just, it works.

Again, this is kind of golf sicko, golf tournament, I don't think, if you didn't watch this week, you didn't necessarily miss out, but I just wanna think, I think that's quite a bit of this era of like designated versus designated. Like these first two tournaments feel very emblematic of what to expect, does that sound right?

Yeah, I think it's perfect. It's like not all of them can be complete bangers with everybody in the top 10 duking it out, right? It's I think, you know, A, you got to develop some guys in the bullpen a little bit as well, but also like, you know, A, you got to develop some guys in the bullpen a little bit as well, but also like, you know, I enjoy tournaments like this a lot. Now, granted, this was even for a tournament that's not designated. I think this was probably a pretty tough learboard. This was on the edge for even the sickos. This was on the edge T.C.

But like, I think this is where I come back to architecture as well, because it's a good, like, it's a good golf course that I enjoy watching and watching these guys feather a little cut driver or try to, you know, you know, like, basically try to manufacture something and shape the ball a little bit. It's so much more interesting than like, if this was TPC Craig Ranch, like, I don't give two shits, right? But like, this is, there's some interesting textural stuff and just little nuance around there that makes somewhat, like, who's playing a little bit irrelevant, right? And I think as long as we're saying a lot of nice things about the TV, I think all three of us mentioned Johnson Wagner and the pregame and post game

and what a good kind of breath of fresh air. He was, I know he's done a couple of events, but thought he was really good this week, just having been, you know, someone who's played this event a million times and I think one there, right? But he was talking, I think it was on Friday, maybe Thursday night, Thursday night or Friday night, about kind of how this course is one of those places that you can just incrementally get yourself

in like really bad spots. And maybe that brings us to to spieth and kind of his comment comment about 64, 75. I didn't feel like I didn't really hit it that different. I think that kind of speaks a little bit to what he was saying. You saw it, I'll bring it up again for the third time, but where Hayden Buckley left that shot on 18

is just, man, it's a pretty good shot, but it wasn't a perfect shot. And it left you with this really tough one or even Hayden Buckley's T-shot, right? Like the way that Narlie-S, Bermuda grass grows, you can get yourself up on those edges, and it totally changes the shot. And he talked about that, like, kind of at length. Again, it was kind of one of those things that just makes you smarter as a viewer to watch

out for, but the way balls sit in the bunkers, the way they sit down to the rough, the way they can fly out of the rough, the way that they can hit weird slopes and weird ways. There was just a lot of, I was thinking about it with the palm trees too. Like, I think it was Chris Kirk maybe on, was it on 18? Where he was just, he was in a lot of palm trees. Yeah.

But that's what it's like. He's just a, maybe a couple steps off the fairway or whatever and there's one skinny palm, just painting the ass that just changes your entire hole. Right, and there's just little tiny things that it's hard to say like, why lie is X, right? Or this course is Y. It's just all those little things add up in the kind of like all these little like micro breaks that you need throughout the course of a week. And I thought that was really good insight. I appreciate it. Appreciate it

here in it. I felt like the golf channel NBC people did a better job of, I don't know if it's more like handheld cameras, less, less hard cameras, Chris, or just, you know, making an effort to show angles and different, you know, different looks from T-boxes and more stuff at ground level. Like I think on a flat course like that, that's very important because you, like you,

I think a lot of that stuff gets washed out from those overhead views. Also just to follow up on CW Kim's shirt, it says PGA tour, that's what it says. Mahalo. Mahalo. Well you were saying, that was a no what it said.

That was written outside down. That was reported on the no leg of podcast about 50 minutes ago, by the way. I'm just like in a, I thought of a screenshot and it says PGA tour. Must credit DJ pie for that. What? I was going to say is for basically

having two free par fives like scoring does not get out of control here like 18 under winning here with like again with two free par f, that basically is like 10 under par. They is like the winning score here. And I don't know, firmness. Going back to, you know, the leaderboard was not outstanding. It was not a very different field from last year,

which gave us a very good leaderboard. I'm gonna say incredible, but you know, we've had a really good run of Hadekki winning here. Kevin Nah for all you want to say about him. He's a very good player in 2021. One here, Cameron Smith, one here in 2020. Coacher famously won here in 2019. Didn't go great for him after that. But that was entertaining. But there were 16 top 50 players in this field last year. And there's 14 top 50 players this year. And some of the top 50 guys that were here last year are now at live and still in the top 50 players this year. And some of the top 50 guys that were here last year are now at live and still in the top 50.

And so it's really about as equal of a field as you could have imagined compared to last year. And I think it's just again worth emphasizing. Like I don't think the non-designated events are gonna get, they might get 5% worse, maybe 10%. I don't know, but it's not gonna be like all they've ruined these, you know, these smaller events.

Yeah. If that's the case, they were already ruined. And I just don't think that they're gonna get really that much worse. And there was a ton of, I'm not a ton. There was a lot of big names in there that like for him, Mr. Cut, Tom Kim and Speed were supposed to carry some weight this week for sure. Hadecki, I'm gonna get to his plotting. He should have been up there, right?

He should be competing on this golf course. And it just didn't happen. Sometimes that happens on tour. So Billy Ho, MCD, WebMCD, it's tough. It's tough when the big names don't play well. Yeah, there's not much you can do about that either. So all that to say, I think these first two weeks have given us a pretty good idea of what it's going to be like.

Like we said last week, I think the the better events are going to get maybe 20% better and the non designated events are going to get like maybe 5% worse something like that. So I just looked up Hadecki's putting stats. It's can we do this now? Please. It is maybe like one of the great like careers of this generation is going to be wasted and Maybe like one of the great like careers of this generation is gonna be wasted and I haven't looked at the game strokes on Thursday point point plus point four Lost 1.6 on Friday lost two on Saturday and lost two more today for a total of minus five Which ranks what Deach

76th, I gotta believe that's among players that made the cut. How many players do you think made the cut? I'm gonna guess probably 76. 70 fucking six. He is gonna go. Here's what gets me. Like, there are, you know, there are people that are just weak putters for their entire career.

I've never seen someone try a car. No, well, that's all you say is true. You've been a weak put butter for your whole career. I got the claw now. That's true. Not the whole career, not the whole career, which brings me to my next point. How, how can you go 10 years without having tried anything different? You have a horrible technique.

I don't even know what good technique is when it comes to anything about the golf swing or putting. He has the toe up off the ground and he keeps putting like that for eternity and can't get the damn thing in the hole. He's one of the best ball strikers we've ever seen. And he never tried arm lock. Try Aimpoint. Try the saw.

Try the padlock. I love Tandon. Don't try Aimpoint. Don't get people trying Aimpoint. We don't need to get more people, especially someone who plays as slowly as as Sadekki trying Aimpoint. We do not need that. I think Aimpoint someone who plays as slowly as as Hedecki trying aim point.

We do not need that. I think aim point should be illegal, but we can talk about that separately, but at least try it. Like that's a something at your disposal, like to improve. Like, I think he puts the time in, but he's just not willing to try anything different. And I just, no one talks about it, thinks about it, and until like somebody raises a flag, I don't know, like Zee needs to be asked about this and call it on this. Why have you not tried anything else?

Why do you keep trying to do it wrong? They cut up at one point, they cut to him. He was sitting like a four-foot putt and it was like a close-up on just his putter. And I was like, oh, is this a clip from the pro-am? Why is that guy's toe way off the ground and he just yanks it immediately left and then it panned out.

I was like, oh no, that was Hadecki trying to make a four-foot putt. It's incredible. I mean, he was, at onei trying to make a four foot putt. It's incredible. I mean, he was, he was, at one point, he was seventh in the field this weekend approached the green and dead last and putting. And it's just, it's remarkable. Has he ever tried a putter that's like not the, just not a blade? Whatever you were going to finish that sentence with. No, he's never tried anything.

Like, don't like. In competition, we don't know what's going on behind the scenes. Oh, we've never seen him in competition with anything else. Boy, I think the other thing that's super concerning is he doesn't pass the eye test. Like, it would be one thing if you looked like a good putter. Yes.

And he's with the stats, but he doesn't look like a good putter and he's with the stats. Yeah. He also was fifth around the green this week. So like, he's chipping his face off too. And still just like not, not making anything. It's, it's crazy.

I don't know what the toe up thing blows my mind. He's, looks like he's trying to hit like flip draws with the, with the putters. It's not just trying to save it. It's not good. It's not good. I'm glad you brought that up, Sally. He's trying to get some extra distance. Before we get to

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I got to say, what's with his hats? It's important to talk. They're so big. Yeah, they're just like, they're so unsettlingly big. Andrew Potton, great, great. If you let me address this, if you let me answer as somebody with a big head that has only a certain style I had that fits it, it might be tough.

Like for the big logo looks just might be a tough fit for his head. That'd be my guess as a fellow 75 and five eights guy. He might want to leave some money on the table then and just go on sponsored hats. I'm with you TC. What I say about Chris Kirk is how did I not have a play on him? Like the best drawer, gotta be the best drawers golf course on the PGA tour and that guy had to draw every single time and has had great success here. That was a major, major miss for me, I think for not having Kirk in my place this week. Speaking of putting the opposite end of the spectrum

from Hadecki, wanna give a shout out to Aaron Badley. Got it in a sponsor exemption this week. Shot 65, 65 on the weekend to finish T7. You know what, that's a good story, right? Bad's is playing some golf. He's up to 53rd in the FedEx cup. So I just wanna shout that out. He's got crunchy peat on the bag now too,

Keith Mitchell's former caddy. And really? Yeah, not a name I would have expected a little renaissance from was Aaron Badley. And honestly, that was kind of news to me. We might need to do a career, like kind of deep dive on Aaron Badley. It's very sincerely being that.

Like what a fucking minutes when he born still? Like, out of Australia and just, it's a pretty fascinating career that I would love to refresh my memory on because I remember it being pretty provocative stuff. Honestly, he's just a victim of the evolution of professional golf and like,

go look at his data golf page. Where do you think the major, major, major deficiency is? Strokes gain off the tee because, I mean, it's really not, it's not that he's that far below distance, but he's just never been a very accurate driver of the golf ball. It was so sick when he was sponsored by, I think, McGregor for a while there, and he's playing like the, the bladiest blades of all time. I thought he got like the mega driver Yips too. I might be misremembering that,

but I thought he was having a hard time keeping it on the planet. T.C. a couple of you skipped fast. Andrew Pottenham, great mustache. I'll say that. David Lipski already said love the golf swing. And Ben Taylor, maybe the most unexpectedly British person I've seen. Did you guys feel that? So less than.

So less than. It kept saying he's from, he's from England. I'm like, that doesn't I've seen. You guys feel less sad, so less sad. It kept saying he's from, he's from England. And I'm like, that doesn't, doesn't look right, really? So he's from like, mobile or something. He looks very stubborn. Well, he went to LSU. Oh, well, that must have been what I was,

that must have been what I was picking up there. Kind of an England or Alabama situation. Totally. There can't be too many guys left on the PGA tour with Trump golf logos still on there. I mean, Trump golf is hosting the location of several live events now at this point, basically a rota, if you will. And just found that note where the he had a Trump golf logo. I don't think we're going to see too many of those on the PGA tour this year, especially as, as the tour has a propensity for, you know, turning

down certain sponsors, all the UPS guys, the, you know, the alcohol stuff, it seems like they could put their thumb on the scale if they sewed chose, I'm gonna guess nobody at the PGA to have realized that that logo was on there. But I could be wrong. But like, they couldn't stop you from doing a golf Saudi logo, right? And I mean, they could.

They still see some golf Saudi logos on there this year. I mean, I feel like they could. I may still see some golf Saudi logos on there this year. I mean, I feel like they could. I think they just, you know, are choosing which battles to pick. Yeah. Coacher. That was wild. 64, 66.

Didn't see that one coming. Coaches, you know, crazy. And then just a couple of guys that are playing great golf right now, J.J. Spawn. Sure. He, he respawned for another week, kind of, you know, went backwards on Saturday, but, you know, he's, he's vibing in whole life. It's crazy. Hopefully fun. Do you think he should keep the, uh, low-hot shirts going on the mainland?

I think you can do it in Palm Springs. That's like, how would I say? Yeah, you may be Phoenix. Lately transitioned. Yeah. I'm not sure it works at like TPC Twin Cities. Well, we don't know because nobody's ever tried it. Yeah, that's true. And then Austin Eckroat playing really, really well as well. And then I got to give it to him the full Monty, Taylor Montgomery, potentially the best player in the world right now. I know. It's crazy. He just can't stop top 20. He's a total menace. I would at this point, I think it'd be a shock if he was not on the Ryder Cup team by this fall. I mean, he's just keeps doing all different

kinds of golf courses. I mean, I said this before you guys even jumped on the bandwagon. I said that he was a Cameron Young type riser. And I'm really glad you guys have jumped on the bandwagon as well and are willing to support him. He's just, he just is getting it done at a fiendal like level if I may combine two bits into one. And then otherwise, I, you know, I had the fact that Russell Henley didn't finish in the top 10 as a massive, massive upset. That's really concerning. You're telling me that was concerning for my draft king's picks, which I'm sure everybody wants to hear about. And then Will Gordon, final round 71,

kind of overshadowed what was otherwise a really, really good week. Totally. He's playing some awesome golf right now. Yeah, he's, he interests me for some reason. I've just kept tabs on his career and it's kind of fun to watch the, the ebbs and flows. But I also, you skipped, you skipped over Mav,

who always, Mavick Neely, who tends to play well here and plays pretty well in the West Coast, so that could be a winner in the next couple of weeks here. Wouldn't wouldn't surprise me. All right, we got, we got to get this beef. I was really disappointed to learn. I forget who tweeted this, but it may have been Justin Raid almost always is, but somebody tweeted a full list of everyone that in the last 25 years or whatever

that held a first round lead and missed the cut. To my surprise, Camilo only did it one time, which I think we get a lot of run out of calling it the full Camilo. I think he did it right. Almost did a couple more though. I remember like, yeah. There were other times where it was like a big like eight shot disparity or 10 shot disparity or something like that.

Okay, so. Maybe just didn't miss the cut. But I remember it happening multiple times for sure. All right, that makes me feel better because we do get a lot of mileage out of that. But we had a full Camilo where Jordan Speeth went from the first round lead to missing the cut. I'm turning to you guys on this one.

I need you to, I need you to sell me on, I feel like you guys are, you know, I feel like TC has been trying to tell me that he's been in the lab and that he's close and that we're there. And I'm just not seeing it. I want to see it, make me see it. You're not seeing it. I mean, I think the shots're there. And I'm just not seeing it. I want to see it. Make me see it. You're not seeing it.

I mean, I think the shots are there. He just seems like he's not quite polished up enough yet. Right? I think he got some bad luck. That bunker shot came back in. He got he got rigged, jobbed on, you know, on the second round there. That was tough conditions got very tough in that afternoon as well. It did not not like should have missed the cut.

Tough, but it didn't help. Didn't help. Yeah, I don't know, Sally. I don't know what you need to see. It's early season. He's going to win this tournament at some point. Like I think it's, I think that's a, that's a certainty. I feel like now he's going to go back to Dallas.

He's going to get in the lab for a few weeks. And he's really, really gonna buckle down. I'm buying all the stock on speed this year. I just am very concerned about the 72 hole sustainability, right? Like it happened. It just doesn't feel like he's in control. He shows the flashes. I mean, we saw it in round one.

I'm like, when he gets going on eight hole heater, like there's nobody better still. I just don't have the feeling that I don't have the feeling that around the corner is like good news. It just feels like, all right, this, the time's going to run up on this one and he's going to do something. And the putting still just seems a little, little off to me. It just doesn't seem like, you know, a couple of miss really miss really short ones at Kapalua just have me a little bit nervous. And I'm not, I'm not impressed after the Hawaii swing is all I'm saying.

I put a note in there whether it's a net positive or net negative the Hawaii swing because you know nice finish it. Coppaluo played some good golf there and then obviously played some good golf in that first round but gonna be hard to forget that with Lash I think I will say that was one of the biggest takeaways. I think I mentioned it last that was one of the biggest takeaways. I think I mentioned it last week, but one of the biggest takeaways from me, from hanging out with them at Coppaluah last week or a couple weeks ago was his ability to forget horrible, horrible, horrible shots that he had hit in the past. Maybe by next week, who might not even remember this, I really don't know. But like I mentioned, I have ultimate respect for him, saying, I really didn't play that

different between the two days That is a DJ pie staple just like man, I don't know what I honestly you guys are gonna believe me. I hit it pretty good I hit it pretty I just shot 94. I don't know. I just got a snake bit in a couple couple spots So I love that and I'm probably No bigger speed fan in the world, but I think I'm probably trending more towards where you're at, so I'll be in realistic, is that I think, and I say this as maybe a positive,

I think we're in for a massive cocaine train this year. Like I think it's gonna be the likes of which we've never seen. Like I think the highs are gonna be really, really high, but I worry as well about some of the sustainability stuff at least for now. Maybe he'll get it cleaned up, but I think what's interesting is when he comes back at, I don't know what that would be, farmers probably.

I think he said he's got seven of eight that he's gotta play after that. So it's either gonna be really streaky. It could be really good. It could be really bad. I don't really know what kind of player he is if he's one of those guys that, you know, I just need a bunch of reps and I'll find it or if that is like, I'm going to be constantly tinkering with stuff for two months. And, you know, I just, I don't really know what we're going to see. I promise it's going to be exciting though and that that gets me hyped. I feel like, you guys sound like green piece or something. Talking about sustainability and all sorts of that stuff.

I've been thinking the last couple of years, though, it's like, it's the highs are there. He's not making birdies, right? I mean, he's making a ton of birdies. He's just making a ton of really bad mistakes, hitting it in just barely the wrong spots and not being able to clean it up. And that's what people who win don't do.

So we'll see. We're close. I think we're close. I'm betting on the process. And I'm betting on Greller as well. You know, he was flashing hard on those conversations this week. Here's what I'll say about it is he hasn't played like stellar golf since like summer of 21, right? he had a really good

21 of where you know you finished fourth of the waste management third at Pebble Beach shop like the 61 at waste management Went over to finish fourth at Arnold Palmer. He Well, of course one Valero going into the masters finished T3 at the masters finish runner up at Schwab Finish runner up to Morricawa at the open championship like. Like that was some like, okay, speeds the dude again. And 2022 was not the year. He won Heritage and he was runner up at Pebble Beach, but like the Heritage win was like one of the worst performances by a winner ever. Like if you want, like it just, it was the reverse phenal as what it was.

Like again, it just is like, I don't know if this signals, listen, we know like what the track is. Again, it just is like, I don't know if this signals, listen, we know what's the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true,

the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, the true, like there is a difference between speed gaining like 2.2 strokes around and like maybe getting to 1.4. That's a massive difference and like we're hovering around that like 1.4 right now and that is, that's like Tyrell Hatton, which is a fine player. It really is, but it's not the man that we know. I mean, I don't know for ever going to see peak speed again, but like,

starting up on him that quickly. That's crazy. Starting from this baseline versus where he started from at the beginning of 2021. Floresire. Like, that's where I'm kind of, you know, starting from, I'm like, all right, like there's a very, very good foundation to build off of here. I think putting wise, like I'd love to get him off of,

off of Bermuda, right, and get him on, you know, some other surfaces here. I think that's gonna help. I don't think these are probably two of the, like, I know Sony, it's typically guys putt really well because the greens are so pure and all that, but like Capulua, sorry, I push Capulua. Those are very, very tough greens to put.

There's grain, there's all sorts of crazy shit going on. So I'm buying, man. I'm buying. Also, Finau and Justin Herbert, they might be the same player. That's interesting. It's gonna throw that in there. That's interesting. I was not prepared for that. When I need that in the agenda, I can prepare for that. I forget, oh, one thing from when we're talking about speed, I found interesting in explaining part of what you just said, you see, I don't know if we're gonna see peak speed again, was him acknowledging and saying out loud,

I will never swing it like I did in 2015. And it's not like a lack of confidence, it's that his body has changed. He has grown up, he's more flexible now, his body is different, it's just his body has changed. He has grown up, is more flexible now. His body is different, it's just inevitable that your body's going to be different when you're 21, compared to being 28 or whatever he is now. So he needs to be a different feel. If he's going to get back to being whatever he, you know, a multi-witting couple majors

a year, it's going to be a different golf swing and a different feel. And I just found that really interesting. Like, instead of chasing whatever that magical thing was, it's gonna be a different golf swing and a different feel. And I just found that really interesting of like, instead of chasing whatever that magical thing was, it has to be something different. And we know that because my body's gotten better, but like I can't ever get back to that old golf swing. So his body's gotten more flexible, and that's holding him back.

Well, so the way he explained it, which is fascinating and obvious, and I've never thought about it this way, was basically increased mobility. So he's got a lot more mobility now, which means that I'm paraphrasing here, making my own connection, but the way his elbow should feel on the way back, his elbow is in a different spot, or the way he should rotate back. He's rotating back to a different spot.

His feels are different because he's more mobile. And that, like, saw you might have just summed up why, speak might be my favorite player. And I think, I think Roy is in that, in that same camp too of just like, hey, man, I'm just like an evolving human and I'm trying to fucking figure it out. It's, it's very, I think you should leave me to see him. I'm, you know, I don't know what any of this shit is, and I'm very scared. It was a little bit of what we're seeing.

And like, think of all that stuff you just said, to be able to piece it together for 72 holes and win a golf tournament is like, man, my hat is off to anybody who could deal with all that and do this. And he didn't say it in these words, but the way I read it was kind of like, dude, I was so inflexible when I was 21.

And wherever I got to when I stopped was like the perfect spot, right? Now that I can turn too much, I can get my body turned too much and everything falls out of sync. And I don't just, interesting. It's very, very interesting. It just makes me worry about my...

Exactly. ...exactly your path. You need to stop stretching T.C. You're lucky to wear stretching T.C. You're a lock-in where you're at right now. Oh, that's fun with me. Can we talk about the boobs? Ha-ha-ha-ha. I'm disappointed no one even felt compelled

to tweet this out. Nobody got it. No one else had it. Cody, on our side was the only one that saw it. Actually Cody's wife, I believe, was the one that saw it. T.C. now it take us, take us to the boobs. They had, my swimming was a drone flyover over the ocean on Waikiki Beach and there's a lady, I think it's on all the surfers. When they had a long conversation about the surfers that they, they're doing this big overhead drone shot of all these surfers, they're like,

what are they talking about? The lion about there, Ralph? And then please, T.C. And then yeah, there's just, you know, just hanging free there. Just a center of your screen, just fully topless lady. It was truly like, if anybody was watching golf, it would have been a really good highlight.

But everybody's watching NFL. Yeah. All right, why is this tournament not? really good highlight. But everybody's watching NFL. Why is this tournament not? Well, I just want to say, I T.C. put like two things in the agenda and that was drone shot with boobs in it was one of them. It's gotta say that. It was funny. It was great. I was funny. Other hamster, can I a couple hamster, M notes, the noticeable effort to catch on course audio, like full on layouts for speed and griller

when he's in a mess of a situation. Every single word hanging on, like they're just, they're not even like trying to set it up. Like you can tell that Zinger's getting yelled at too. Like shout-out, shout-out, shout-out, they're gonna talk. And Zinger like gets out of the way. They're very obviously leaning into this to start out the year.

It only took like 10 years, but it was very cool that they have. And I need, I've been very hard on the cock, and I gotta give it a little bit of a shout out. Even hard on the cock. The Dean Hockard on the cock. You don't wanna take that again. Peacock, I'm over to take that again, that stays. Peacock is, has now, I don't know if it's,

it's turned into the best place, like stream the golf on your phone, and it has the collapsible window now, which anyone who is watching something on their phone like to still be able to do something else. And so now it doesn't greet you with an ad when you sign on, which so many of the other NBC apps have always done and made a miserable experience to try to stream.

They've gotten rid of that hurdle that I've been begging for them to get rid of for a long time. And I want to praise progress and acknowledge change that continues to be happening. It was a little bit disconcerting to have Bob Parsons screaming at us again down the stretch this week. Nobody makes clubs and fashion the way we do. Now they've added in a layer to these.

Really? I was going to say the opening line of that ad of, you know, if you play PXG clubs, it says something about you. Like they can stop the ad after that line. Yeah. I think everybody would be in full agreement of that. What else you guys got? Only the other thing I'll say on TV. Oh, and then I definitely want to get to the,

that'll be a good transition to the Adam Scott thing. But the only other thing I want to say about TV is, this is all, we've talked about a lot of golf channel NBC improvements are guys at CBS. Let me just say they've made market improvement last year and they've been, you know, just kind of chilling in the lab for the last like, whatever it's been three months, four months without having to tell by something golf stuff. So I'm kind of excited to give back to farmers and see a CBS week. So color me, like, you know, fool me 80, 155 times, but I'm actually kind of optimistic about CBS coverage as well coming back. I heard some whispers. I think there's going to be some some fun stuff, maybe baked into the broadcast. We'll see if any of it comes to fruition. But I think I think it's going to be good. And Solid, this is like telecast adjacent,

so I'll just throw it out now. At Mark and Victoria said, what do we have to do to get both Hawaii events to be Wednesday to Saturday, prime time? Or, you know, like, I mean, Cornfairy started today and it's Sunday to Wednesday. Like it's, like going against NFL on Sunday night or on Sunday afternoon, like why?

Why would you do that? I think, you know, we talked about this last year with farmers going to the Saturday finish and farmers is doing the Saturday finish again to avoid going up against conference championship weekend. And that's a great win. I think it is going to take, I really do wonder if it's there's possibility

of like everyone moving up a day, right? And this weekend doesn't really work because there are Saturday NFL games on this past weekend, but I think it just is too complicated. The article that came out last year that talked about all that went into moving that and what it was gonna cost them in TV ratings

and just what it does to squeeze a week in the six days and what it does to the Pro Am and the player arrivals and all that is like it really would make a lot more sense if everything was kind of on this schedule but it depends on what the sponsors want I think out of you know again is it a media buy or is it a hospitality you know is that what you're trying to sponsor this event for and if it's a media buy for you like you don't want to like again at all the ratings are all fake anyways like you want people like Mike want to set this when he was LPGA tour commissioner,

like you want people flipping back and forth between PGA and LPGA, you know, rather than it being in its own window. And like I'm like, well, I mean, that just means the numbers are all fake anyways. And so I feel like they want people flipping back and forth between the channels more than they actually want you to be able to sit and watch and enjoy it.

But I get, I get why a lot of them aren't, like as far as volunteers and hospitality, you need to be on the weekend and all that, but man, these two feel like they're very much apart from everything else. Yeah. I agree. I think they're just very much of the look, these are smaller. I like being able to say out loud, now these are smaller events that are going up against

football that are quite optional viewing. Farmer still feels like a big event. Yeah, it really does, I think. Which how fun is that to even be able, I guess fun is kind of relative, but to even be able to just say it like that, if they kind of feel, I was thinking about today, I mean, they kind of feel like Tuesday night baseball games

or something, right? Or it's like, yeah, they're on. They're part of the schedule. Watching or don't, you can look up who won. You can look up who had top 10s. You can look up all that stuff after the fact if you don't really want to settle and watch it. But I am truly like mentally, I'm like, man,

well, we're on to, we're on to farmers a little bit. Like let's, let's start, you know, taking it easy for the next couple of weeks, which is a very interesting conversation as it pertains to the PGA Tourist business model. But that's, that's for someone much more well-paid. It's worth noting that farmers is not a designated event, even, right?

It's, you know, a event we still look forward to that's in the non-designated category as of now. So. Do you think some of that has to do with like the field size, having that big field with the split courses the first two days? Do you know what? Actually, my answer is I think it's Tiger hangover.

I think it's like we all think this events bigger than it is because Tiger always played it, which made other guys want to play it, which you know has kind of had some field hangover to it. And the views and CBS coming back, it always felt like the eighth, 18th time that PGA Tour season kicked off. And I don't know, it is still like the feels like the first big event of the year, if you will, which kicks off a great stretch. That's when the PGA tour season gets as good as it really gets is from farmers through basically, you know, up to the masters, not including Valero. But solid one last thing on the Sony leaderboard, Kazuki Higa, my guy Tyga, Samigawa, Heena

Nakajima and Hedecki. Four Japanese guys made the cut this week. Hell yeah. I just wanted to shout that out. There you go. So closing out, hamstered him section. We have an interview coming out with John Rom. We recorded it last Friday.

So you have to remember, he's talking a lot about not passing Katelyn the World rankings and he finally does. So there's some stuff that's outdated, but take away he had was, that he thought NBC stepped up their game based on like, well, the how the century he finally does. So there's some stuff that's outdated, but take away he had was that he thought NBC stepped up their game based on like, well, the how the century was broadcasted. He's he was he had noted, he had a hamster damn take as well.

We talk a little bit of television coverage, which I think is going to be an interesting chat. So look for that to hit your podcast feed this coming week. Well, the only other TV thing, Tron brought it up earlier, but Zinger's comment just a complete drive by it. And I wanna preface this in bold faced type here. Zinger, please say this kind of stuff.

Like I'm so, so, so in on this, I feel bad you're gonna get your hands slapped by the PJ tour, but I, it was a highlight of my day. They're talking about Adam Scott joining the pack, which we can talk about next. I have some thoughts on that. And Zinger just chimes in like, man,

you know, I was on the pack for 13 years or 16 years, whatever he said. I thought it was a colossal waste of time. And then you could kind of realize like after it came out of his mouth, he was like, and you could hear him and Hicks almost kind of stick to each other like, oh shit, like we're gonna get in trouble for this.

Thanks, give him a really, really. And he just kind of like yeah, well, you know, I don't know. Maybe it's different now I think the singers credit like it it probably is different Well like Dean beam and like Tim Finch and like I don't take you shit about like at all about the pack. Yeah. Right. That's a good point. Obviously a natural tie in, but I think Adam Scott joining the pack is is a very interesting interesting thing that I think yeah. You know, maybe calls for some unpacking for for those that don't know the pack is what unpack. It is. You like that one? That's good. That's on it. On intention. The pack is what 16 players, I think, are on the pack. I just got it. Thank you. It's a good one. It would have been easier

spelled out. The pack is 16 players that essentially report up to the PJ toward board, right? So if the the players report to the pack, the pack reports to the player directors on the PJ Tort board. And so Adam Scott, I believe for the first time, is joining that 16 player body, the pack. What were your guys' thoughts when you saw this? I think it, I feel like there's people out there that think he's still a live threat of some kind,

which I think this obviously goes against that. And I think it's an interesting endorsement for the PGA tour at age 42 for him to kind of take this role on now. It just seems like they are trying to, the guys that were in the room in Delaware just are seeming to increase their footprint and willing this to take on some tasks of moving things forward and making sure that, basically not letting things fall, slip through the cracks and fall to how they got to.

If these people would have been involved throughout the years, maybe it would not have gotten to what it's gotten to anyways. So I don't think it's a game-changing move. I think it's just very interesting of probably a good sensible guy to have in the room to help advise things and represent a certain class of player. That's where I'm at, too. I don't mean to say it's like some big sweeping thing. I just think it's really interesting.

Some of his quotes, I think it was Doug Ferguson, AP story, but some of his quotes about, you know, obviously Rory has had to take the brunt of this and there's probably more that more of us can do to help share that load and actually offer ideas. And it's just, I think it's ultimately a good thing for the PJ Taurif. Adam Scott seems like one of the most experienced, thoughtful, kind of like measured, interesting people out there. I think it's a good thing for him to have a voice in the room.

Jordan Speed is going RV life. He's, they've bought an RV and we'll be driving that from from event to event. I didn't see that one coming. I didn't see him. See him as an RV guy. I don't know if yeah, I'm assuming that has to do with getting the family out on the road and staying all together and not, you know, flying with kids and all that. But and having to deal with hotels and all that stuff.

But yeah, he's going to be going to be in an RV. I think that's sick. Yeah. Sweet. Again, you're just he's playing the hits like to all of my an RV. I think that's prosick. Yeah, sweet. Again, you're just, he's playing the hits like to all of my favorite things. I fucking love RVs so much. I've made you guys get into RVs many times for-

I mean, I'm sure this is gonna be a, this isn't an RV, this is like a, a tour bus. Correct. And I'm assuming he's not like driving it, right? I'm guessing he has a driver of some kind of hope. He's got his class, he lets. Yeah.

Yeah, well, I guess that's the thing. Like, are they going to, are they still going to fly from place to place? And then the RV just shows up. Maybe that's what it is. That's less interesting. Yeah, less interesting if so. Yeah.

Yeah. But no, I think it's still, yeah, it's cool. It's a, you know, it's a nice throwback. It also kind of goes to show like he's got a couple stretches this year where he's playing a lot of golf in a row. Yeah. I just, I don't know if I've ever actually said this on the pod. We've dance around it already on this one.

I think, aim point should be banned. I think you should not be able to straddle a line of your putt. I think it is horrible for pace to play. I think it, you should not, it is almost like feeling your way into a lie of some kind, like feeling the ground, like using the ground as a feel for, you know, like intentionally by straddling your line of play to like see how you're gonna navigate the earth

seems like something that should be illegal. And it's like testing the surface. That's kind of what I was getting at. Yeah. And if putting your club into your belly is like kind of a rule that we've said is not allowed for putting, I think, yeah, feeling out your line with your feet. It is, again, it's horrible for baseball. It looks horrible on television watching Keegan face one way and then flip and turn the other

way on a four foot putt is gross. And it's just I think I'm done with it. It's got to go. I'm sorry, Max. I know it's helped you a lot, but it's it's just, I think I'm done with it. It's gotta go. I'm sorry, Max. I know it's helped you a lot, but it's gotta go. I think it should not be allowed. To be fair, like watching Keegan do anything. That's, it is awful.

But watching Andy Wun really do aim point is just, I'm, take it away. I'm good. Unless somebody can, like, explain to me why this is essential for the game and a good thing, I take it away. I have to think I'm a little bit. I certainly don't have a passionate enough rebuttal to your case. So I'd probably end up voting with you, but I think I would mildly disagree.

I I don't really know how you're going to police that and I don't know. I'll try to align. That's what it is. You can't straddle your line. Your put other. Who's watching that? What what happens if everyone else? It's a two shotshot penalty one shot penalty

I mean I'm probably in a vote with you, but I'd like to think out a little bit more. Okay. Thank God it get back to me next week DJ's gonna gonna have his his focus groupers I need to talk to my constituents. How's this gonna tank? Yeah, how's this gonna on? How's this gonna affect my district? Where do you vote T.C.? Oh, I'm totally with you. 100% with you, sorry. You guys are getting paid by the same super PAC. I could have filled it in with band whatever was in there T.C. You're like, oh yeah, for sure, band that. Absolutely.

The heritage tradition, baby. Band three woods. Oh, for sure. For sure. Anything else, kind of from Sony, or can we get into some other fun stuff from this one? No, we have a robust list of various things that happened. I feel like.

Which, first of all, on the list is the Netflix trailer is out. Full swing comes February 15th. The trailer came out. Does it get you guys more hyped, less hyped? Is about what you're expecting? What do you think? Got me hyped. Yeah, I thought it was good.

I'm hearing some iffy stuff about the tennis one thus far. I was gonna have that. I was gonna have that if you guys have watched any of that. We've watched the first two episodes of that, and it's not like must see TV, but it's interesting. It's behind the scenes, look at Curios, and that's the episodes we've kind of gotten through so far. And it's a supplemental thing that's kind of designed

for non-casual fans, or I'm sorry, non-intense fans, for casual fans. I mean, they're like telling you how tennis scoring works. And I say that to lay out that I think we can expect that with golf. People are gonna flip this on, hardcore golf fans are gonna, you know, you're gonna have the FedEx Cup probably explain to you. And it's going to be like, be kind of helpful. This should be kind of helpful. It actually might be kind of helpful.

But it is going to be just an alternative look and, you know, kind of, you know, it felt like it was following the blueprint of Formula One, like the same kind of off course moments. Like the cameras right there for it, like it's really hard to be pretty authentic, but a good deep dive of a bunch of people talking about Curios and his development, his career. But I don't know, from what we saw from this one, it felt like they're gonna dramatize it pretty good. It's gonna be a lot of, and like slow motion walking and making it,

making all this seem very serious at times. But I think it's still going to be my seat television and going to be very interesting. I think the tennis one as well will be very interesting to see what they do beyond the first five or six. After they've set the stage and gotten everybody up to speed, I feel like the back half of this, whatever the golf season ends up being,

the back half of that I think will be better than the front half just because they've relied on that to get people into golf, explain the sport a little bit, explain the structure a little bit, and then, and then they can really dig in on some of the specifics. I would say going back to your initial question, it definitely got me excited. It's fun to see, fun to see these same faces through different cameras, if that makes sense, right?

Like, the only time you ever see them is not with like the big cinematic, you know, kind of intimate cameras. It's with the far away broadcast cameras or the 18th green interview with Todd Lewis or whatever. It's good to see these guys just in a little different light, which is really exciting. I just, I don't know if this is a golf specific problem.

I haven't watched any of the tennis ones, but, you know, based on what you were saying, Sali, I think there's gotta be like a self-awareness to doing anything like this that just didn't exist. Like I kind of fell out of the F1 series even, just because once you, like once it becomes a self-aware thing, like if this is for the Netflix show, I don't know how it doesn't lose some of its,

you know, organic nature. Like that's nobody's fault. That's just, that season one stuff was before the first season had come out, which is why you get so much real stuff, which is why it's as good as it is, right? And to not only try to do this a couple of years after that F1 show has been super, super popular, but then also that crew spreading

themselves, you know, probably pretty thin trying to do an F1 show, trying to do a tennis show, trying to do a golf show, golf being naturally very closed off and restrictive anyways. I'm both very excited. I can't wait to watch every episode, but I'm tempering my expectations on what we're really gonna see. I hope it's great footage and I'm willing to say now, without seeing anything, I'm sure it's gonna be the most inside look at,

the PJ tour that we've ever gotten. I don't know that it's gonna get to where anybody, like us would have hoped that it would get to, and I just, I don't really know how you do that as kind of like a self-aware project like this. I would say both most inside and most outside on the lens of like, it's not like golf bringing you this. It is Netflix bringing you this.

And there's gonna be some, I would guess, some kind of storyline building within it that is might be kind of grading for golf fans. Like there's going to be probably, you know, the, the formula one fans have long complained about, you know, shots are out of sequence and the helmets change colors in the episodes. Like they're faking this shot. Like, I think some of that stuff is going to stick out to us probably, but also understanding like we've made video content before. Like sometimes you just need like fake part of it because it helps move this part to the next part

and you know it's just not that big a deal because you're trying to tell an overall story and it's just kind of coloring it. What do we fake? I can't tell you. I mean just like if some, I wouldn't need to tell you that. You make it somebody repeat a line that's funny

because oh yeah, what's it feel like? It's kind of like Yeah, just coloring in between the lines That which I think is I'm I'm very excited to watch I think it's gonna be very good and again They has long been emphasized the PJ tour does not have editorial control of this. It is not just about the PJ tour It's gonna be about the majors. It's gonna be about live. It's Gonna be a lot about polter's birthday. I'm sure. Oh my God. We're an hour into this. I totally, I meant to start the show by wishing him, Ian Polter, a happy birthday.

And I totally forgot. And Luke Elvy. Yes. It's Luke Elvy's birthday. On the 16th, I believe. I do have one prediction on the, on the live guys. I, I hope. And this all comes down to the edit. And it all comes down to the producers and what they're, you know, not, I don't wanna say agenda, like that sounds negative, but kind of their point of view and what they wanna leave in and what they wanna highlight and what they don't. I think the live guys are gonna light themselves on fire.

I feel very, very strong. I have not seen anything. I haven't even heard anything to that regard, but I just, if you get unfettered access to colossal dick faces, I think they're gonna, I think they're gonna reveal themselves as colossal dick faces. And so I'm really excited for that.

I think that's gonna be sweet. Brooks and, Brooks and Pulse are gonna, they're so perfect for this. If, if, just thinking they look so cool and thinking they're making the right points and they're gonna look like assholes. There is a clip of somebody throwing clubs in a clubhouse. It looks like it's Polter at the match point. Yeah, locker room. I don't know if he's faking that for the camera or what it was, but again, I just don't know how with a Netflix camera following you, you're like, oh my rage is just so intense.

I need to throw these clubs in this locker room. This is a very real thing I'm doing or if he's real hamming it up on cam. But a bit of a bit of a Joey Boça situation It'll not be we're asking we are not interviewed in the series as well I have been led to believe some of our content may make it in some of the final episodes of live shows or what that what that may be, but they're gonna show TC TC's double chip from from Barça back I think is it there, but I think that's it. And the subsequent club club throw. That was trotted the locker room at Austin.

Throw it is throw it is clubs. Cameron young Cameron champ and Lucas Herbert are among the players that have applied for releases for the Saudi international and have been approved for them What's your guys reaction to to any and all of that? There's gonna be a lot of Cameron's at the Saudi international I thought like I think like Lucas Herbert's had one foot out the door for a while. You almost waitlisted. I think he's kind of like what don't call us we'll call you. Upgrade list.

You could have honestly confusing one of his global. School of Love Grids. You could have convinced me Lucas Herbert was odd live already, honestly. Cameron Young, Cameron Champ. I think we talked about it last week. I mean, I'm not. I'm not not wild about it last week. I mean, I'm not, I'm not wild about it. It's not my decision. I think it's a little tough to, to look at, you

know, the people who are suing the PJ tour and try to have it both ways and say like, how dare they this is, this is awful and then go take their money in Saudi Arabia. But to their point, I mean, maybe Cameron Young and Cameron Champ and Lucas Herbert haven't really been on that block. So I'm not trying to put words in their mouth either, but I think it would be a much worse look for some players than it would be for others, if that makes sense. I don't mean that as any way to kind of quote unquote, excuse it, but I think it would be a lot weirder if there were some of these like very, very, very vocal. I cannot believe they're suing us type of comments. Like if those people were to go play these guys kind of seem like they've, they've stayed out of, out of the mud, I guess.

I asked Ram about this. And again, it's on the podcast episode that'll be out later this week. But his, his thought on that was that they probably had already signed contracts for this. And he doesn't know when or one that would be but they're probably honoring contracts that were signed which again, I don't know if that excuses it or not but he didn't seem to have a problem with it as a as a fellow PGA tour player and and basically was asking through the lens of Cameron Young was in the room with you guys like, yeah, these dudes are suing you. What do you

think and he did not seem peved by it in any way. So it's found that interesting. If it was like R. So it's found that interesting. If it was like Rory doing it, I think it would be a very different conversation. I do agree with that. Yeah. Which I don't think there's anything to say that you can't play this out of your national

and also the PGA tour. Like I don't think that's a deal breaker, right? I think it is different than live. Grandets, of course, the same people. And I completely understand that part of the process. But it just seems like it's again, the questions might be tougher for you as the player as you go do that. Like that's what you got to deal with here. But I don't think it's like that you I don't think you can't do both things. That's that's kind of where my my gut is. Again, understanding how different that is from playing

live and the PGA tour. That's the lens I'm going at from this. Yeah. I come at it. I don't know. I feel like you got to be a little bit more rider-dye. Like, if you're part of the PGA tour, it would be a part of the PGA tour. That's kind of where I'm at.

It feels like a very cheap, for guys who are making a fucking lot of money already, it's a job to make a lot more money. And it's, I don't know, we're kind of just like triaging the badness a little bit, right? Like next to, next to leaving the PJ tour forever for an upstart, soulless, non competitive golf league. Like yeah, going over for one week, like doesn't look, yeah, that doesn't look quite as bad. But in a vacuum, it's like, well, why are they putting on this tournament? And why are they trying to get players there so much? And why are we softening this slowly each year that it comes up?

Like it's, it's kind of all that stuff we don't need to really relegate. I think part of my deal too is like these guys complain. And I'm not saying Cameron Young or Cameron champ is complained about playing extra events, but like on the whole like these torplers, like these top torplers complain about, you know, having to play all of the elevated events. And it's like, well, you're flying or like to the other side of the world to go play a completely meaningless tournament

and make a bunch of money. Like, you know, the breathtaking views of the Red Sea. And they're growing again. I know they're growing the game over there in King of Dollar economic city. I wonder how Patrick reads. I don't know how I was going to lay in this joke, but you know the Scott's Tots episode of the office. That's kind of a picture with all those kids Patrick Reed would visit it at that school. I wonder, they got to be like, you know,

coming up to graduation age here very quick. They might be hitting them up for some clubs or you know, he's gonna have to make good on his grow in the game promises here at some point. On the live front, some news ish came out this week. Honestly, I might need you guys help kind of steering through this a little bit because I don't know if I fully understand

everything that's going on, but I think I get about 90% of it. But the PGA tour is seeking discovery from the public investment fund and Yasser Al-Romayan in their lawsuit. A.C.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E. The public investment fund claims it should not be subject to discovery because it has no day-to-day control over live golf It only owns 93% of live and pays a hundred percent of the cost so they don't obviously don't have control No, we didn't even talk to them total separation of church and state there third-life Greg's over there Just we have no idea what he's doing. Yeah, he's got the word just let them run for two billion dollars

He's got a work. A debit card over there. Get this though. On the other side, the tour does claim that the PIF is essentially involved with this. Thus they would like them to be part of the discovery process.

There was a three hour hearing on Friday the judge the judge declined to rule on the motion for now, but it's been reported that our mind again, the head of the PIF submitted an affidavit to the court that he could face 20 years in a Saudi prison if he was responsible for disclosing classified information Which is so sounds like a you problem

No idea what's Shubbla be at home if my mom found out I was here like that that is You know what they do to people who do like they're gonna they're gonna chop my hand off You guys don't understand how sick these people are That sounds like an H.E. problem might be my favorite phrase edited other mention of this podcast in a while The tours argument is in fact the piff is operating commercially in the US So like again, this is where it gets kind of legal ease all that stuff But immunity does not apply here which sounds like super cut and dry and basic to me, the amateur,

that's kind of reading these articles. It says you must be subjected to the jurisdiction of the US court. So all these delays are, you know, continuing to kick the can down the road for the trial timeline, which is January of 2024. And help me out here because to me, this sounds like the most obvious thing ever in this would be that the PIF would be involved in discovery. Did they possibly have not seen this coming?

Like explain this to me like I'm five if you guys can. Yeah, like the whole cold feet thing just feels a little bit like, wait, you guys didn't, you didn't anticipate this like how? That's, I'm with you, Sally. And also, and not that I really understand all this stuff, all that great. I'm kind of just relying on a lot of reporting mostly from Aiman Lynch of golf week, but also just the idea that it's kind of a me reaping, me sowing situation of like we would really

love to sue the PGA tour because they're really fucking us over with some of this anti-competitive stuff. It's like, oh, awesome, sounds great. Like we'd love for you to, you know, to comply with some discovery. Oh, no, we won't be doing that. If you could just sue them, though, that would be ideal.

If you could just shut them down, that would be great without Eddie. You don't get it. My friend, Thirdlight Greg told me about all these things they're doing. I just want to find out about those. I don't. So there was a great video in golf central, Jody Balsam. She is a sports law professor at Brooklyn Law.

She rated, well, laid it out really well in this video that I won't even be able to describe as well as she described. But basically it's saying that the tour believes that the communications within Piff would greatly help its defense of the antitrust claims. You know, if they can get a hold of all of the communications there, it basically can help prove their case of all kinds of like, no, we didn't commit antitrust violations and all this stuff. So, the reasons this, amongst many reasons why the Saudis would not want discovery would

be able to require them to like maybe disclose investments that are that they don't want to disclose that could show efforts they've had to influence U.S. politics, which I don't know if I don't know if they'll find anything there. There's a total coincidence on some of the things. Some of the courses. Take this. Take this. Some of the courses they're hosting.

Take the dick riding, all right. Some people that they're funding. I don't know what they would find there. I've the Amon Lynch wrote a great article for golf week. I've cut part of it here and I will share. It says the public investment fund, which is ultimately controlled by Crown Prince, Mohammed Ben Salman invested $2 billion in private equity company owned by Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, over the objections of its own advisors.

The live project was thought inviable by the fund's consultants, McKinsey and company. Yet another couple of billion dollars has been torched there. And if the Saudi fund is making investments that are economically irrational, discovery might unearth motives that are grounded not in profit nor sports washing but in politics. So that's where it gets really fun.

It's like, I'm looking for more politics in my golf. Totally. I'm excited with where this is trending. There, I think the whole reason for throwing this on the agenda is just purely for the comical purposes of, like there's probably obviously some horribly nefarious shit going on here, and it's all gonna run through dumbass like paparez

and like walkin' Neiman, and all these people are just like, gonna, could potentially, I shouldn't say going to, but could potentially be the reason for all of its underthink. It's just like fake golf league that people have been trying to convince us is like a serious thing.

It's just, it's really sweet, really, really good stuff. I'm so torn between like, gosh, I don't understand like the law at all, and I don't understand how legal proceedings work at all and also like this looks like the most obvious thing in the world that I Don't know how we they even thought this was gonna work. I really don't understand I'm extremely confused as to just wait the what the chest move is No, just wait their years ahead of you, man Just wait all these big names are coming. They got a big TV deal coming.

Just wait, you don't even get it. They're gonna announce their schedule soon. Yeah. Taste it. Just wait, man. And the Latin America Amateur Championship, Mateo Fernandez, they all have all the Vero from Argentina wins by four shots.

He's now in all four majors this year, which was a nice addition that they made. I think the US Open was not a part of that. And I don't know if the British Open was part of that, but the Glad, or the PJ championship rather, but glad to see that they made those changes. It's cool to see this event being elevated around the world a little bit.

I flipped it on for a little bit just because people kept saying he was walking ahead, like not, like not watching his playing partners finish out. He was already on the next tee. He was like taking the box from people that he didn't even be apparently like I don't know if they were on the clock or what it was but Alpha. He was like take the like finish the hole and then like go to the next T and hit before like the players got to the next T. Hell yeah.

So I'm still I'm fired up still that that Ludwig hasn't gotten a special invite to Augusta. What would be at Gordon's margin? The 60, you know, quick two or three sentence case that you would make as his lawyer. They gave one to Gordon Sergeant. He won the NCAA period point blank. Yeah, I know, but Ludwig's the number one amateur in the world. He's a dog. Should have won the CAA sounds like.

I called your name right? Let me. Better luck next to you. Again, finally getting to this again, I regret not starting the show with the happy birthday wish, of course, to Ian Polter, which if you don't know what I'm talking about, give me his real sentence. You got to read the poll to eat.

Okay. I think I think I'm back and forth on being blocked by Polter. He is he blocked me certain weeks? Well, he like followed us for a while and then I met him at the, I thought relations were thawing for a while there. Yeah, he's like, I love your social media.

I love it when I met him. It's amazing. It's so true. It's so amazing. His quote was, his in response to a happy birthday video, media. I love it when I met him. It's amazing. It's so amazing. It's so amazing. His quote was, uh, is in response to a happy birthday video. I believe different. Jessica Mollinari, he says, uh, what's really an incredible touch is the players that help build Ryder Cup Europe brand with other players as well.

You can't bring yourself to just say a simple happy birthday. So the Sergio Garcia birthday yesterday. Unfortunately, this says so much. It's another PXG. If you play PXG, this says so much. It's another PXG. If you play PXG, this says a lot about you. It's another yes. This truly does say so much. This is unfortunately it does.

You know, Neil makes us calendars every year. All of our birthdays on it and anniversaries and all that. And the first thing I did was open up and see that Ian Polter's birthday was not in the calendar. And I hope he gets that change for next year. So speaking of the rider cup, can we talk some hero cup? I know you guys watched a bunch of it this weekend.

A ton of it, man. I know what your favorite moment. Yeah, you should kick it off. Oh, I mean, big shop Bob McIntyre netting three points. That was huge. For those that don't know, what is the hero cup? Dr. Moonjall put up some money. I think they're over in Abu Dhabi or Dubai.

It's basically continental Europe versus the UK, British Isles, Ireland, whatever you want to call it. And kind of a training ground for the European Ryder Cup team. It's like the goodwill games. It is, yeah. God, great. I didn't know you're gonna get a good vote game's folded. But yeah, it's continental Europe one by four. Captain Mollinari was responsible for 3.5 points from Europe. 3.5 points from Nikolai Hoigard as well.

Rasmus had to withdraw. I think it's just showing the great depth that we've got on the European side. But beat them. They definitely won. They definitely won. Well, I have to laugh. They're just like literally beating their teammates, right?

I don't know what, like, somebody has to win, right? No matter what, somebody's gonna rack up a bunch of points. Yeah, I mean, we had Mike Wallace on there. We had, you know, all sorts of, Sapstrakha played, which I thought was had Mike Wallace on there. We had all sorts of, Sapstrakka played, which I thought was interesting. That is interesting.

I'm all for, again, it's a cool event. Yeah, it's a great idea. I like the training ground aspect. I like getting guys match play experience, getting them in a team room together, seeing maybe your future Ryder Cup teammates like from the other side of the ball, right? Like playing against them in a team competition.

I think it's a great idea. How would you split it up if the US did one? You know what, I think it would be a cool event and granted only certain guys will be able to participate, but if they did, like basically, kind of like the LPGA does with the international crown where you've got like teams of four and they're from different colleges. So like the Texas guy is like Speed, Sheffler, you know, Bo Haasler, Cole Hammer, maybe they're playing basically just like Texas team, UGA. Super

souped up buddy's trip. Yeah, it'd be like, you know, and you get, you know, kind of the top 12 or top 16, you know, teams together. I don't know. I think that would be really cool and interesting and fun. Like, you know, you get Max and James Hahn. Sure. Juplife first call, y'all, would be kind of cool too. I was like, he's got his West Coast kind of thing.

Dallas and Vegas and Phoenix against the island and, uh, and Juplife and Jackson. It'd be kind of like, like, uh, Cannon Cup that like the AJA does, you know. Shout out to Big Play. All right. But it is like an interesting thing to, you know, take a pool of however many guys it was and that, you know, they're going to dumb it down from there. And there's no ROM, there's no Rory, like it's not everyone there. But like from there, given a little bit of team experience and give a bonding chance, I think it is a, it's obviously, can only be a positive thing for the Europeans.

So like they, you know, I don't think they announced the format until like Tuesday, people were betting on it. Like the lines were out and they're like, wait, are they playing all shot or playing four balls here? Like what's the format? No, yeah, we forgot to announce kind of how this was going to work. So, which I like kind of making it up on the fly. I'm in on that.

We have a report from the telegraph that Spain is in line to host the 2031 Ratter Cup ahead of three English courses. I don't know what the English courses were. My telegraph description is lapsed, unfortunately. Yeah, James Corrigan reporting this one. I think one of them is outside of Luton Airport, I think North. They're basically going to purpose build some sort of resort up there in courses for like two-hosted rider cup, which sounds hashtag not good, in my opinion.

It just gives me flashbacks from like the like the belfry or any of the rider cup courses good. I think that's the conversation we could have at somefry. Or any of the Ryder Cup course is good. I think that's the conversation we could have at some point. I think a dare man is gonna be sweet. I think it will too, but like, I don't know, Beth Page with some. Risco's gonna be, I think Frisco's gonna be dope too. Like eventually when they have it there in the 2040s, you know.

And Freddie's hosting this podcast. Yeah, I can't get too fired up about 2031 Ryder Cup just yet. I mean, who knows? So in Spain, is it Valderama or is it another... Is it Valderama? Of course, live. Didn't they push their field to your left? That's what I thought.

Yeah. That's, yeah. I think this is a wait and see situation here. But there's Sharon some news and notes from around the globe. You got the last two. This is all, the floor is all yours here. Yeah, it's a school soapbox Sunday here. I was I was appalled that Scotty Schaeffler won the golf riders association, you know, player of the year. Just got more from him. I just got to see a lot more from him next year.

No, I thought I thought it was a layup for Cam. I mean, Cam won, you know, Cam won the Open Championship at San Andreas. He won the players. He won the Sony. one the open championship at San Andrews. He won the players. He won the Sony. I don't know. I played really well at the Masters. I just I felt like that was petty. So I could see it going either way. Scottie won like four times in a major.

He won the waste management Bay Hill match play and the Masters. So I think that was I think, you know, I could you could argue masters versus open. They're very close. The second biggest win there would be came at the players, but the next several would go to, those would all go to, to Sheffler and, yeah, Liz or some live undertones to that 100%. So I would definitely say so.

And then the other thing they got me fired up this week was golf digest put out a we every PGA tour course ranked feature. This was I think this was the worst the worst thing they've ever published. I mean it was it was it was like horrendous. They put Houston's Memorial Park golf course 38th of 38. And Mirafold Village was number three. It was above a rift. It was better than rift. Like, uh, I, it looks like some formulas bit this out. Some AI bought or something. Like I don't, uh, some ranking system. It, it wasn't like there was actual judgment that went into this. I think it was very much like, uh, I don't know how many raiders had played it kind of thing. I don't know. I mean, TPC river highlands was 34th. Like in my, in my mind,

that's one of the better courses on the PJ tour, at least top half, in my opinion. I hate seeing you're, you're guys of keen trace get knocked as well. I hate that. Oh, TPC Scott still 30th. Then those sets, TPC Craig James at 27th. You can find some community there. Why lie 26th right behind PJ national, which looks like truly like out of every course on the tour. I have zero desire to play PGA national where they have the Honda.

I don't know. It just didn't make any sense. There was no, it was nonsensical. So it just pissed me off. That's been bugging me all week. I'm the AT&T. I'm the AT&T Oaks course should be a fire too. All right, I think that's it.

AT&T Oaks courses, that's how we're gonna win this in this episode, I think. Take the pledge. Anything else you guys have, I should say. I've been just beating up the range here in Milwaukee, guys. I went to the range the other day. It was about 30, 32 degrees, something like that. And there were so many people there

who was awake for heated basses. So I had hit balls outside for a while. Didn't have to. I did, though. I hit balls outside, stinging ass, like seven iron, bad contact. If you miss one, just puts you out of commission for about five minutes.

It's like a curve ball or a slider, you know, running in on your hands. Exactly, right. But I'm I'm you know, I'm dialed for that. And then the other announcement I wanted to make, TC, I feel like you're gonna be hyped about this. I signed up for a newspaper subscription today. Oh yeah. I haven't done that in a very long time. Move to a new city. I'm looking to learn more about it. Need something to do on Sunday mornings. Well, I'm drinking my coffee and, you know, listen to music, so I sign up for a newspaper. I'll let you guys know how good I go. What's the Milwaukee paper?

Oh, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. It's a great deal if you want to get in T.C. It's I think Wednesday and Sunday and it's like 94 cents a week. So, you know, cheaper than a cup of coffee. I subscribe to the Jacksonville Times Tribune or Times Union. Times Union. Times Union.

So I was like, it's going well. I subscribe. It's gets pretty thin, man. It's pretty thin. So, that's because all the reporters, our guide Nate Monroe and everybody was out at the Jagscape. Do we need to talk about the Jags at all? I think we do.

I think so. I mean, we rocked him. There was no doubt. There was no doubt. It was, uh, having fun. I was, I was, You see Bay of tweeted, he had no doubt in any time. I did say though, I did say, you know, when the Jags scored before the half, I tweeted

out like, oh yeah, like, certainly not a night. Perentices, uh, like, this is the charger's niche to choke away a game like this. Like, we've seen them do this a dozen times over the last few years. And then, and then proceeded to get worse, I think, after I tweeted that out. But yeah, I've certainly lost hope,

but then when I went and got Freddie back up, we put him to bed at halftime, when he got him back up like 30. You said he was crying as he went to bed. Oh, he was sobbing. He was so excited for the game. And he's like, he's like, Dad, we're losing, we're losing 27 to nothing. Like this is, this is a nightmare. Never get out. Asking.

Do something, Dad. Yeah. And then, and then yeah, we flipped it on him. Al Michaels and Tony Dungee. Oh, just grace. So fucking bad. I mean, that it was embarrassing. Like those guys should should retire resigned tomorrow. We had a friend and stately.

We had the vibe on the telecast was so bad and the, the game was going so poor. We had a bunch of people over our house. Like, uh, I don't know how it started again. There was some alcohol involved here, but somebody started playing the song like we didn't, or the boys are back in town. All right, this is what it was. After they scored the first touchdown,

it was 27-7, it was like, all right, the boys are back. And the Google picked it up, it was like, all right, playing the boys are back in town. And so my wife played for the whole second half. She had to play a song with the theme, some kind of theme of boys. And she just was like running through them and kept going. We didn't listen to the telecast, the whole second half,

we just kept playing music the whole way through. And it was just an epic, epic comeback. And it was just, it was so bizarre. I've never had one of my teams, and I'm such a bandwagon Jags fan, but I've had that happen the other way around my entire life. I've never had one flip my teams and I'm such a bandwagon Jags fan, but I've had that happen the other way around my entire life. I've never had one flip in that direction. I've really never have.

I refuse to let myself get emotionally available because that always happens the other way. And now no matter what happens, it's a giant win, which it's half time right now, 10, 9 Baltimore over the bangles at the half, which could change, that could change things. I wouldn't mind taking on the bills instead of the chiefs. So, yeah, the bills look what getable right now. For now.

Although, I don't know. I think the Jags tend to match up better against the chiefs personally, but I mean, shit, the Jags beat the bills under Urban's tutelage last year. How about bunkies, Tweet? The Jag checks come from behind. I mean, everybody in our neighborhood was shooting off fireworks at midnight last night. It was very, very floor-to-man stuff. Trevor Lawrence went to the waffle house here in Jack's Beach. I tell you what your old friend did.

Yeah, my, my hitter Rita at the Jack's Beach Waffles, Jesse and I used to go every Sunday morning for like a very, very long stretch. And we'd sit in Rita's table, the little two-seater right by the counter, every time would it be thrilled to see her, and to see her pop up in the photo with Trevor Lawrence that would have to be like 2am, 1am, something crazy, after the game last night was really hardwarming stuff.

Happy for everybody in Jacksonville That was great. I feel like the charges probably need to fire Brandon's daily. He seems like a really nice guy, but I mean that's a really talented team like they got dogs on that defense with Boasa who seems really really well adjusted You need to get when James Boasa of the trap draw the You need to get when James you get both of the trap draw Kind of can't wait for the trap draw this week. That was all I was all I was thinking It's like man, you know no matter who wins the real the real winners trap draw this week effect. There's a lot to unpack

Trap draws Cody and Neil this week. Oh, that's right. Well. Yeah. Yeah, that's a bummer. Neil doesn't have a football experience Not like you too So all right, that's a bummer. Neil doesn't have a football experience. Not like you too. So all right, that is a fun week. We got MX. We got to survive this coming week. And then and then the fun starts really with the PGA tour schedule. So a lot of fun stuff ahead. Some fun announcements coming from our end and some fun content. I think it's going to be a great run up to Augusta.

And very stoked. So thank you, baby. Gentlemen's good to see you, baby. Gentlemen, we will be back here. Again, look for the John Rom episode later this week. Thank you to our friends at Titleist and Footjoy for essentially always just being so kind with their ad time. They just want people to get the content and we appreciate that from them.

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