No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 638: Farmers Recap ft. Max Homa

Episode Date: January 30, 2023

The NLU podcast bump strikes again as Max Homa wins at Torrey Pines to claim his sixth career PGA Tour victory. Max joins Soly, Tron and Randy to take us through the week in San Diego, the shots on 16 and 18 to close out the tournament, his mindset while competing at the top of the leaderboard, his in-round TV interview and a ton more. We run down the rest of the leaderboard and evaluate the concept of a Saturday tournament finish. Then it's time for some coverage takes, the latest with Patrick Reed and Rory in Dubai, more LIV schedule and executive departure updates, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No-Lang, a podcast, Sally here at his Victory Sunday. We are recording this the day after Max Homo wins the Farmers Insurance Open at Tory Pines. It is an early morning in the mountain time zone, but big Randy is here.

Good morning, Mr. Randy. Good morning, Mr. Randy. Good morning, Mr. Chris. I'm wearing my Cincinnati Bangal's sweatshirt, really hoping it's a victory Sunday for them as well. We shall see. The best part is this is gonna be out and that result is already gonna be out. So that's gonna be, that's gonna be funny either way.

I might be extremely happy or I'm gonna be a sad boy, one or the other. TC is here, good morning, TCS. Morning. I got my Niners and my Bengals going today. Big day. I'm also going over some forensic video analysis here. It's coming from allegedly allegedly, allegedly going through a alleged video allegedly in Dubai. Just want to get that out there.

Guys, we know what we're going to talk about from the jump. Max Homo wins the Farmers Insurance Open. I don't know if you guys knew this part. He is a titleless full line ambassador, ProVue on golf ball, 14 golf clubs. That's the most amount of golf clubs that you're allowed to have in your golf bag. This week at Tori, Max led the field in Strokescane T

to green, putting on an absolute clinic with every club in the bag, T-S-R-R-3 driver to his T100S 4 iron. That's what he used the last year. He's been playing for the last year. He's been playing for the last year. He's been playing for the last year. He's been playing for the last year. He's been playing for the last

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He's been playing for the last year. He's been playing for the last year. He's been playing for the last year. He's been playing for the last year. He's been playing for the last year. Max has made the change to a new Pro V1 after working with the titleist team this past weekend. At the TPI, the title's performance institute, the new golf ball, more consistent and more stable with the irons, longer with the driver and a bit more speed with lower spin, all with the same

short game feel and control. Max has always trusted changing the golf ball as a big decision for the best players in the world and the switch paid off immediately for Max with a win. The first week that he teased it up and luckily enough for us, we actually got an earpiece in him right now and we're going to go down to him live to check in. Usually it's a night of a victory, but keep it the tradition alive. Welcome back, Soma. This is my favorite tradition and it's even cooler

winning on a Saturday so that I can watch football day on Sunday. Boys, I'm rooting for you guys to be happy. I'm also going to be rooting for my own happiness on whoever I decide to bet on. So this is a treat. I usually wake up on a Monday and you're thinking, what can I go do to have some fun and celebrate. And this is a special one. I get to actually Enjoy myself on a Sunday like a normal as Kayla Presley says it's perfect work like balance I won and get to have some fun. So I'm looking forward to this. Do you have the trophy behind you?

I do not know they ship them to you. It's just those are other trophies from previous Collinces may don't you? Yeah, just a few other. Max, mean, where, where, where we, I know this is going to, people are going to listen to this Monday. So we don't have to spend a lot of time. But, you know, what's, what's your lean on these football games? Have you been studying film? What's going on? Big film guy, you know, I don't know. I, this is a pretty awesome. I guess it's always pretty cool. But I think this for me is like my mecca final four in a way, just with some of the guys kind of heading those teams. I love Patrick Mahomes.

I love Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow's line when they asked him a week or two ago, what's the window for the Bengals to win a Super Bowl? And he said, as long as I'm here, that's about as cool a thing as you could say he he is the perfect Balance of like confident without being like obnoxious. So I love him. I love the Eagles I feel like Jalen Hertz has always had such a terrible like I don't understand why people always just say oh well his team's just really good Ever since Alabama. I mean he's a baller, seems like a good leader and watching Brock Purdy is funny, man, because he's getting the same treatment.

You know, he's just lucky, he's on a good team, but I like watching him make these plays that are just, they're awesome. So I love it. I don't have a Lena. I got to feel in the Niners, they're gonna win for some reason, although, like I said, I do, I like all the teams.

I don't really know. But I'm not a huge fan of Cincinnati coming out and saying, you know, like the actual government in Cincinnati saying that Joe Burrow owns Patrick Mahomes. So I'm not a huge fan of that one. That one's scaring me off of them a little bit. Well, Max, while we got you here, what is your window? What's your window for winning look like? Man, say it as long as I'm here.

Say as long as I got clubbed my hand, I think I feel pretty good right now. I really don't know where to start. Man, I mean, we kind of go back to the same repetitive stuff when you win of like reflecting on where you've been to now, But there seems to be no complacency on your end. And the confidence just seems to be in the perfect spot. It's not arrogance yet. It's not, it's very enabling for performance. And I don't just don't know how you, I'm asking,

I don't really have a question, but reflect on what it's like for you to be in contention now and the things that you feel and the killer look that we see just seems to, I mean, you just don't have like close calls. Like you win when you're in the hunt. Man, it has been a weird run. Every time I kind of get going on the back nine and these things and I get close, I'm always like,

man, I've never got second before. You know, it's got half and at some point. Glad it didn't yesterday. But yeah, I don't know. This one was different. You know, DJ Pai famously told me once if you look at the leaderboard and can't find the killer here, the killer, I looked at that leaderboard and there were a lot of them. So I was like, oh boy, but I don't know. This one, Riviera will always be my favorite win. But this one was kind of the most special to me because of the board,

because of the crowds getting to play with Colin three of the days, but especially on the final round. I have the utmost respect for his golf game and I've gotten close with him. And he is, you know, for being younger than me, someone I look up to, he's someone I admire the way he plays golf. He has two majors and he's a kid.

So to get to go toe to toe with him, you know, I know Rob was behind us and Tony and Sam, but like in my group, I had, you know, Sungjae and Colin, so you're just watching an absolute clinic. So at least I knew what I was getting myself into. But to go play that well with those guys all around and in my group, that was very special for me.

It was kind of different than the Fortinet to interesting golf tournament, man, because you have so many guys who just got their card and I've been there and it's a lot of pressure. And in a way, you're just happy with the good week. I'm going there, obviously, to win, as I'm sure everyone else is, but that. I'm going there obviously to win, as I'm sure everyone else is, but that's like, if I don't win,

going to that Sunday, it's, I'm not sad, but it is kind of a bummer. So when I was coming down the stretch there, it felt like me and Danny were just gonna go kind of toe-to-toe and it became a two-man race and match play situation, if you will. But this one really blew my mind. I got off the 12th green and I looked at the board and Sam and I were at 12 and then

the neck closest was 8. I'm like, all right, we're back to a two-man race. I like my chances in that as anybody would. I'm sure Sam was thinking the same thing when you only have to worry about a guy and there's only six holes left. That's a good position to be in. I guess I haven't been in enough of them where I was like, damn, you know, Colin makes two birdies. SungJ makes a couple birdies.

Keegan jumps up to like 11, I think. And I was just like, holy cow. Like, wow, way to get ahead of yourself. But I guess it just comes down to, I work really, really hard at this. So I'm doing a better job in the moments of the events to just kind of trust that and go play golf. And I think that's lent, or let me play some good golf under the gun is I kind of actually think about it less

when I under the gun that I would on the Thursday. So I kind of let it go a lot more. And I feel like that's been a key for me. And I just, I mean, I think we all do, I love it. It's the most fun ever. Like yesterday was the most fun ever. So at some point, you have to just look around and smile and be like, this is freaking cool. Yeah, it's nerve wracking, whatever. But it's just fun. This crowd's really freaking enormous, by the way. I mean, I just, you, you play in those final few holes. I looked at 17. I mean, in 18, it looked like a US open crowd out there, but take us to, can you take us to 16 when where you knew you were in

that golf tournament, that pin, we had seen that, that whole been played on TV many times over the course of that day. You're, there were two birdies, I believe, and that I was a holdout bunker shot. They're, take, are you aiming at that flag? You hit a cut to a back left pin. Take us to that shot. Yeah, I hit a really good one on 11, a four iron high cut and I just trusted myself. I got to 16 and I, you know, I made a big cut on 15. So I was trying to carry some momentum to 16.

It was obviously those last few holes are very hard and minus 18. Call and hit a beautiful, you know, four iron right at the middle of the green, held it up against the wind, hit it right where you're supposed to. Some day hit a really good shot, started kind of at the pin as he literally always does. And it faded, you know, another great shot to, you know, 25, 30 feet.

And I don't know, I looked at the pin, I say this, you know, as an importance for, I guess, high level golf, but people talk about having ball control. I think people think that that means, you know, I know where the ball is going, but I look at it more as I know where it's not going. And I felt like I had a better chance if I aimed at it to step left of it and hit my just normal one yard cut in my head, because I wasn't going to pull it. And if I fan it,

I'm short right, you know, short of calling in Sungjae, but you know, in the middle of the green, where I felt like if I aimed it too far right with the wind off the left, my misses would be, yeah, pull might go close, but I wasn't bacon on that. And then a wipe would go in the bunker or 60 feet. So I kind of just stood up on that thing. My swing felt great. Four irons, one of my favorite clubs. I like hitting long irons. Honestly, part of it was I was playing with Colin and Sun

Jay, two people who are machines. And we played the same ball flight. We played little cuts. And they call him the best hour player I've ever seen in my life. And, you know, hit that beautiful shot in the middle of the green and sometimes you just want to step up and in those moments with those big guys and see what you got. And I felt good about it. So I aimed a step left of it and I was just going to play my one-yard cut and then I decided, you know, at some point you got to let your nuts hang a

little bit and I said, this is the swing I'm gonna make. And if it works, it works. And if not, I'm still gonna have a up and down to say par. And if I don't say par, I still have two holes. So I was just, I did try not to make that moment too big, but I, pin look good to me. I didn't think I was gonna be able to hit it close, close. But, you know, just make a good swing.

Like I said, I didn't feel like I was gonna pull that one. So it felt like it was kind of aligning. I always think about what Jordan Spees said on this podcast about that short-right miss is kind of your best friend minus one whole kind of engulf. And that was a perfect example of that because short-right on that whole was not gonna kill me as long as I didn't aim it too far right.

Going to 18, what are you guys thinking? Don't roast me for saying you should have laid up because I still have to get you to laid up. You know what's funny, man? TC is two days ago, so the third round, second or third round, walking off the, we're like standing behind the green or something. And Joe, I think, had talked to another caddy about this,

but he asked me, he goes, he goes hey he goes one shot lead Guy the guy's done in the clubhouse, so you're one ahead Backbunker or lay up to 90 yards and I said lay up to 90 yards So then as it always seems to I'm in the middle of the fairway I didn't say anything and Joe Joe goes seven wood. He goes that back bunker is good and I pulled it out and I was like cool because Joe you know Joe as most guys Joe's usually on that let's be conservative thing. I'm on that I'm gonna make it to and jump in the lake mindset but I pulled it out and then you

know we're waiting for some day to go and I looked at Joe I said you know we talked about like literally this exact situation. I didn't know where Sam was so that was a big difference too. I thought Sam was at 10 could make eagle so that was part of it but he said he said it's our favorite club is my seven wood. He goes you fly that water easy you can hit the green still and the the biggest difference to me in a way is that hole is always in off the left So the wedge shot from 90 that we had talked about would have been like a very chippy. I have a 90 shot with my 56 that doesn't spin a lot and they would have just fit really well.

Downwind, I was gonna actually have to think about where it was gonna land and if it gets up top then I gotta two put whatever. So it made a little bit of sense, but at that point like I said, I was swinging it well. It felt like again short right, it was probably still gonna get to the front edge of the green downwind. So, but it was funny. It was like kind of, it's kind of ridiculous that Joe had literally told me what we're going to do today before.

And we completely threw that in the trash. But that's, that's us a little bit. But I really enjoyed your Tweet DJ's Tweet, laid up, laid up, laid up. I loved that. I mean, guys, I am for the brand. I'm with you guys through and through. If I would have won land up, I feel like I would have heard about it. So I figured I'd go for it and go down and flames if I did. It just felt like more could have gone wrong with that.

And there's something to your feels. Like you said, if I didn't know exactly how confident you were about not pulling it on 16, then like even if you end up in those left bunkers, it plugs, it goes up against the lip. Like there's just felt like a lot could go wrong. Whereas a wedge from 90 yards, unless you did the Kyle Stanley shot, it was, you know, you were going to make part. But also I said that too. It was like, I don't know if he knows that riders in trouble on 17 because.

Yeah, I didn't know. That was exactly. It was a big part because like I thought, I mean, knows that riders in trouble in 17. Yeah, I didn't know that exactly because like I thought I mean birdie wins that golf tournament. And sure I don't know that it's interesting you say that though a lock can go wrong. But what I've been working on with Julie is a lock can go right as well. Yeah. And I can hit this golf shot that I'm going to I mean that was that was sick. Like I was so good.

It was so easy. Well, and it was awesome. I that's one of the few shots I've gotten to see. And I was like, damn, that's cool because I won't felt really good coming off. And I felt comfy over it. And yeah, I thought Sam was at 10 and he could bird you 17 get to 11. I could still, you know, lose the golf term. I felt like a birdie on that whole. I would win the golf term no matter what. And yeah, it was obviously a lot different when I got on the green inside. It was back at nine and Joe's like from three feet

he goes, just so you know you have two puts from here and I said, okay, you know, this is, things just happened so fast. It's a pretty tremendous, I know y'all don't love it. We were at Joe and I were talking about how we could convince you guys how great that golf course is. But it is, you know, whether you love it or hate it, even just as a viewer, it is a really great finish

because 14, 15, 16, 17 are really hard. And 18 is like, you can make it three and make a big jump. So it's kind of cool because that was obviously, I've watched that tournament a million times, there's all of us have, but getting to play it and know like, man, there's a lot of scenarios that could go on. You know, you could be three up on the last and someone's got 17, 18 to play and, you know, they could play them in three under. So it's kind of fun running through the scenarios and then just trying to decide what the best decision would be on

that second shot. Max, we've talked about 18. We've talked about 16. I think certainly I had written in my notes and I know Tron and Sali the same that par plot on number eight and what that did for you. You'd started the day five. I believe five shots back of Sam Rider. What was your game plan, I guess, what, you know, starting five shots back was it, you know, let's get to a certain amount by the turn, talk to me about the mindset, and then how big was that hard put on eight? It's interesting, every tournament's different. So if I was playing the AMX,

where obviously scores are really low, I think I would have had a number in my, like a firm number like in my head, where I needed to go out there and, you know, I gotta be more aggressive. I might move my lines closer to the pins. I might do things differently. Today knowing that that number was going to only be 10 to 12. I was like okay if it's only 10 to 12 which is I'm hoping a little bit but it was cold and it was a little bit windy and it's a really hard golf course. So knowing that I thought it was probably be 10 to 12. I was like, well, that's not a crazy low round.

So I don't need to do anything outrageous. So I was like, just go play golf because I played phenomenal on Friday and didn't make anything. And I shot myself in the foot a couple of times. I was like, OK, go play the same round of golf. Don't shoot yourself in the foot. So I just went and played.

So I wasn't really changing my game plan at all. I just was going to get in the hole a little bit faster. And that was fun. That's what makes those golf courses to me so enjoyable in the final rounds. I don't feel like you need to black out or anything to win. You just have to play a solid round of golf.

And again, when you're five back, you need to hope a little bit. But there weren't a ton of guys between me and that lead. There was one enormous name that I'm very thankful, you know, got tired or something because I, you know, that was, we were, I mean, Friday was so, he's so absurd at golf on Friday. We were, I was walking down some hole early and I just like, having to look at a board and it's wrong. It said even through four and I'm like, all right, you know, like, shoot. Like, yeah, I don't know. I don't even, it's not like I was playing against him. I was a million back to say, but I was like, oh, you're just interested by like greatness

and he's, he's greatness. So I was like, oh, even through four and then I got to like seven and he was five hundred through nine. Like, dude, what is wrong with this guy? Like, this isn't real life. This golf course is so hard. And he makes it look so easy. So, I was very thankful John didn't go out there and be, you know, John, it honestly is all jokes aside. It's gotta be really hard to be going

for your third and a row on a golf course that hard. He makes it look a lot easier than it really is. So, yeah, not having a lot of guys in front of me makes that a lot different. But yeah, I mean, I just played, but the put on eight, that was huge. The bunker shot, I don't know how I did it. It was, I was committed to making a four and trying to keep my spirits up and keep playing because I was still going to be like 200 through eight, which is a great score out there in my mind. But yeah, I got a really good read from Colin. I got lucky on that a lot this week.

I got a lot of good reads from people right on my line. But yeah, it was good. I didn't hold anything really significant the day prior. So to have that par, par, par, it writes the left kind of a decent amount of break and watch it go in the middle with good speed It's like, okay, I feel like you know today is different than the day prior I'll push back on that a little bit because you the the eagle putt on Friday on six. Yeah, yeah

It's probably the one that was like that was when I felt like oh my god like this is this is gonna happen Yeah, that one felt good I just missed so many like right-edge puts the rest of the day left edge puts and it just didn't feel good in my hands. I hit a few puts after around but yeah from distance. It's weird. Sometimes when you're in the mix. It's almost easier because it feels free. And as you start to miss a few even when they're like be it. I miss one on 14 on Friday. That was about as easy a leave as you could have. And I was just like, man, it just doesn't feel good in my hands, but some of the long ones felt better, but that's kind of golf. You feel expectations, a terrible thing at times.

And I felt like I was forcing it from close and then long you just feel like open to, you know, if I miss it, whatever, like of course, two puts are fine, but that was nice. I mean, that was nice for me too, just because I bogged one and, you know, it was back to under par through six. So, yeah, that was every once in a while. You've done one of those in and it seems to turn your week around. Plutting-wise, is that kind of a product of of Poha as well? Yeah, it's point. Just like great in the day, short rounds. Dude, it's so sketchy.

Sungjae had on 16, he had like two and a half feet, maybe less for Pohr. And I was going to say it at the time because like we were, you know, in the hunt, but I was thinking I was like, this has to be the hardest day I'm two footer, I've ever seen in my life, because it broke a little bit, and I had just walked up there, and the way the sun was beaming through the tree,

you wanted to be in the shadows, you can't see all the bumps. When the sun shines, you can see every little footprint, and it was like the bumpiest little area I've ever seen. Collins putt went in, it was gonna go in regardless, forcing, but it was like eight feet out, and it've ever seen. Collins putt went in. It was gonna go in regardless, forcing,

but it was like eight feet out, and it might have hopped like three inches in the air. And I'm like, how are we doing this, man? Like, how are we gonna do this? But yeah, Po gets in your head pretty bad, because you'll hit, that's a problem. It's, I probably hit some better puts than I thought I did on Friday,

and they missed by, you know, a couple balls or a ball. And I'm like, what a terrible putt. And it probably wasn't as bad as I thought. I'm sure some of them work. But yeah, it's like that, those greens, they'll just, they get in your head pretty fast. That's from everybody aim pointing through the lines is what's causing all these bumps. Everyone's making putting all these footprints all over the greens and pushing their weight all through them, right? I think that's what you're arguing gets worse by the day. Do you levitate as you go to pick the ball up out of the hole? Well, you got to go pick the ball up out of the hole too. So

that's extra footsteps. It's just way too much foot trep. Oh, sorry, Chris. Everyone to do with all the footprints. Hey, do you want to talk about metal spikes? Because I wear the soft ones. Sure. We get that that's really important right now. I want to go, I want to revisit Tori because I feel like I have complicated feelings over. I'm struggling to marry, like I still think what I think about that golf course yet. It works for pro golf, like it does. I'm going to give you a good explanation of this because we talked about it.

Joe and I talked about it. I've for you guys only, because I know you guys don't love it. Obviously, TV doesn't do it a bunch of justes. That's all your tweet about Keegan, Backbunker, and 18. It shows just how much harder that shot is than a routine bugger shot. But first and foremost, the course is known from your guys vernacular as a kind of a Bob and Gauge joint. What's interesting about it is I totally get it and I agree.

However, to make birdies, you do need to be in the fairway. So why I love it so much why I think it's such a great golf course is because you can't play that golf course from the rough and win the golf tournament. You can be successful. You can because the scores are so high you can shoot shoot one under, but it is hard. And, and one under is about where you're going to get to, maybe two or three if you are putting like a maniac. But to make birdies, you have to be in those fairways. The 14th hole has plagued me every time I've ever played there. And on Friday, I hit a great drive down the middle, and we had a wedge in and had like 12 feet and made it for birdie.

And Joe laughed and he said, when we got up in the fairway I was like damn this hole is easy But it never is because that green you run pins on the left and right so Saturday last rounds on the left so you can blow it into the right rough But when it was the first day and it's back right you can't play that hole from the right rough like there's it felt like This is gonna be dumb and this is a an extreme exaggeration, but it feels like 16 at, or I guess three even at St Andrews where if you are not in the spot, you can't even look at the hole. Like there's no hole over there. You're going to play it. I've done it. I've been on the right rough, hit it to 80 feet

left and then you have an 80 footer for birdie. So they have holes like that. Seven is like that. You hit that fairway and the hole does not feel that hard. You miss that fairway. It's a nightmare. So they have a lot of those things. I get your guys kind of gripe about some of the, you know, it's it's it's repetitive and whatnot. But 17s of bad ass whole man there's hazard on the left. Everybody blows it right. Um, that those bunkers of the right are horrendous. Um, again, theyers of the writer horrendous, um, I guess they renovated that one. So, you know, they're gaining on things, right? So they move that fairway closer to the game.

I like it better. I get y'all's point. But I think it's better. I honestly think it's better than you guys get just because you can't bomb and gouge it to a win. You could you need to hit the fairways and someone like Colin proved that I, we know I play with them three of the days, but on Friday, I think he had like 11 fairways and it really did look like tremendously easy where me and Will were kind of in the rough Adeson amount and it's like we're playing a different golf course on some holds. Well, so to this point though, the way it played this year, the fairways were soft adjacent. I mean, they weren't like pillow soft, right?

But you could hold them a lot easier. They're narrow is shit. I think when it's really firm and you have very narrow fairways, it's so frickin hard to hold the fairways that everyone's gonna miss a lot of them and it just becomes like, then it's like a bond of gouds. Like just a farther down wig. Yeah, that's pretty much it.

But this week it played really good of like, no dude, like thread the fairway. You have a chance to hold them one and there's an obvious benefit to doing it because the rough was extra thick and a true penalty, right? So that's why I'm saying like this year it was kind of like dude, if it kind of plays like that, like it makes the t-shirts a lot more fun to watch. Honestly, I've like I'm really curious if they hit the fairway here because that is

going to be a total difference maker. I mean, it was still less than 50% of fairways were hit. Yeah. This week on South, which is insane and Morakau hit 46 of 56 fairways this week, 82% Tory Pines. I, I, I, I, my blown on that stat, but man, it just, I don't know. What the hell is that? Yeah. The finish to that, to that goal. I, a farmer's does always deliver. It creates really good drama. Like, it, I think the path to getting there, it's a hard four does always deliver. It creates really good drama. Like, I think the path to getting there, it's a hard four day watch. And I still hate like thick rough a foot off the green

that you can blade a ball and it just stops right there. Like, I think that's pretty bad design. But dude, it works. Like, I don't think we've been too hard on it. Like I still just like look at the fairway and like that's really fucking dumb hole. But it's really fun to watch. And it does work.

I think for me, it's more like, I look at it and I'm like, what could be? Right? Like I look at all that coastline and all that cliff side. And I'm like, man, what could be? Or, you know, number four, like all the great land around that. And there's just so much more you could have done with that land. But I think for Pro Golf, it's fucking sick. It's like, it's like, it's kind of like Bay Hill, where like, I'm good. Like I don't need to go play there a bunch. But like, I love watching you guys play it. Three guys shot over 80 yesterday, you know?

Yeah. And like, it was awesome. Like, I mean, I was blown away. Like, you're shot on, on 11T. But then like 12, you hit that little cut. Like was so, so good off the tee. And then 13 you get up there and, you know, hook one and like, you know, play the shape of that fairway.

It was cool to see you working at both ways in certain spots off the tee. I know Joe only gives you one draw for that year per week. That's the cut off 17 was sick too. Cut it out over the candidate with a tournament on the line just with zero hesitation. It was so easy. It looked easy.

Those are the ones again. If I bail on that, I probably make buggy again. Why? I love that hole because I did it on the round prior and my ball kind of buries under the lip. And so I get up on that T shot and it's like Joe. Joe is like,

we're either hitting driver seven wood. There's no three would play. Three would go right in the shot and it's like, Joe's like we're either hitting driver, seven wood, there's no three would play, three wood goes right in the bunker, I'm like okay. So I was like expecting to say three wood, seven wood because I just hit one to the middle of the green or whatever, but I wanted to hit driver in the back of my mind because I've been swinging it so well. And then calling was over his ball,

Joe didn't say anything, and just tapped at the driver. I'm like, hell yeah. And I said, I'm aiming this thing in the, right down the cut line, or the hazard line. And I'm gonna hold the face, I'm gonna rotate, I'm gonna do everything I work on,

I'm gonna hit it, I'm gonna hit my cut, and it's just gonna work. I, you know, taking a page at a, what Colin does, truly. Like, I mean, he owns that golf shot. And I was like, you just gotta trust that. So I like, I mean, you have to trust yourself at some point. If you want to play that, for me, if I want to play that whole, not every

hole is going to fit your eye. And that one does not fit my eye in the least. And I don't know, those are the fun ones to me. Like this shot on 18s cool, but like the one on 17 on a shot that just doesn't feel comfortable at all to just Have some faith and and swing away It's fun. That was that was a go. But that's why that course is cool. I think there's a lot of Change in like Angles off the tee where like some holes feel comfy as hell to cut it and some holes feel horrible to cut it, where drawers, I feel like it has a good balance to your point TC about like professional golf. I think that's a great balance of that,

because like I'll stand on some teas and be like this feels horrible. And then the very next hole, we be like, oh yeah, I feel so comfortable watching this. And it makes you uneasy, and it makes you feel at home, and it all throughout the same realm. You talked in the preview episode,

which shout to the NOU podcast bump, back to back weeks, incredible. I'm on fire. You talked about the impact of Julie, the sports psychologist you work with, and you've referenced it a couple of times here. And I'm wondering that moment on 17, cutting it out over the canyon, starting that shot. I'm marrying the two things here to see,

that seems like a reflection of confidence that she's put in you, or you guys have earned together. Yeah, a lot of it just trust in trust in myself. That's what she tells me. Um, she says observe. Don't critique yourself. So observe the ball fly. Go find it. It's a lot of probably what Dustin Johnson does. You know, he just kind of hits ball. Finds ball hits ball again. Uh, and it just they're all, they all feel very equal to him. That's how it seems, at least when he plays, and that's what I was trying to do, have faith in myself. If I'm going to hit a golf shot, hit the, hit the fucking golf shot, and then go, you know, if it wasn't great, then you move along and you can work on it later, but

you, if you're going to decide to hit the driver there, you have to, you have to aim it where you are going to hit the fairway, or else what's the point. So a lot of that is from her. She's just been on me about all that, just not weighing too much on each shot. She even sent me like a text the night before with a quote about how something that probably plagues athletes as they say, this is such a big moment or such a big shot or such a big at bat or whatever such a big play and they forget that they've done this thousands of times and if they can just get themselves in that mode of I'm just this is just one of a thousand and that's kind of how I looked at it but it was bigger for me like 1415 though 131415 that stretch of like the tough

because I kept saying there's no road map. How this is going to go. I can bogie all these holes and still win the golf tournament. Like, just play. Like see what happens in play. And I make two of those putts, miss one, not perfect, but move along. Whereas maybe old me misses, all three, maybe old me misses, too. But just I felt like I saved a lot of golf shots with my mind this week through four days. And I needed all of them. And that's what I think what you gotta do to be these fields that are,

like I said, that leaderboard was filled with, with tremendous talent that's had a lot of success on big major venues and in majors as well. 13th suite. That whole 13th stick. I hate to back to you though, dude. You should be able to get there. It's so much more fun when you can get there.

I think in the OA, US Open, Tiger and Lee Westwood, we're able to get there and both went forward and like both snipe it in the shit. It's like when you can't get there, the layup's so dumb, you can't see anything. And then you can't see anything going up to the green. They kind of dig that though. No, I know it's like super uncomfortable.

Yeah. And like, like, on that one, how much did you miss your spot on that, on that approach shot? Like, by the way, I was laughing about it. I was, my divot and his divot pitchmark on the green, where mine was probably two inches left to his and had a little more drop spin off the the upslope going up that hill and I have about 40 feet no chance and he's got like a pretty good look from like 15 feet and we were both laughing

because we had walking up that fairway we were talking about how this green is just the most absurd green and then of course it plays out just like that because that we were picks picks these ball marks nearly right next to each other. And one of us is happy. One of us is shaking. Well, what was it like being mic'd up for the whole on Friday? You told me it was Saturday. So I got my tweet all right. My bad. I told you. I was like, I let Sally down. I forgot that the tournament was that was Sunday. What was that process like and kind of talked to me about what how that's going to hopefully be a part of the future of coverage of golf? We've been talking about it for a couple of months and the idea was to bring fans in to learn. It wasn't for an interview

It was to learn even if you could only hear me and Joe I thought that it would be an advancement And what we've been doing. So yeah, it was fun. I mean, I got on the tee hit my t-shirt. They handed me a we've been doing. So yeah, it was fun. I mean, I got on the tee, hit my T-shot, they handed me a air pod and I walked, Trev starts asking me questions and about, but he did a great job. It was like about what the whole was. It was not about how it is playing golf as a dad. It's not about being in content. It's about like golf, like this whole, like that's what we wanted it to be. So getting up there, you know, then he's asked me, you know, what, what's your plan? Like, would you go for it? And I kind of told him and, and it worked out kind of

well because I said, I'll go for it and get past the first two bunkers and get into the last bunkers. And I didn't hit it well. So it goes into between the two and it's in a really bad spot. But that was kind of the point is, there's no good leave there unless you can get it to the front two bunkers. And I didn't hit it well enough to get there, but we went for it because I should have been able to. And then I got to have my phone at the plug lie and enjoy myself for anybody watching who is not a casual. That was that was enjoyable.

And then and then yeah, I get to like hack it around and whatever, but it was fine. I would be lying if I said it wasn't slightly distracting, but part of the destruction was good because it was, I was still in the golf tournament and I felt almost like loose in a way. So it wasn't the worst thing, but I was talking to Sam Steve and so I play with that day about it. And he said something, he said, you know, is that the first time you've done that? I said, yeah. And I was like, I'm hoping more people will want to do this in the future, but I'm going to, you know, is that the first time you've done that? I said, yeah. And I was like, I'm hoping more people will want to do this in the future. But I'm going to, you know, hopefully it went well.

And he goes, yeah, because not everybody, you know, wants to be like as personable with the thing as you. And I said, I get that. But I said, the point of this though is that if you want it to be just, they have an air pod on your caddy and they can hear us better. And maybe your caddy can hear them ask one question. He could elaborate on something. That would be an improvement. So it's like this doesn't need to be a walk and talk like I did.

Like we can make it what you want it to be, but like something going forward for the fans of golf to get inside the ropes and understand what's going on. And that's, so I think there's a lot of flexibility to it. I'm hoping that other players will see that as an option and it doesn't have to be as in depth as I went with it, but like I'm comfortable with that. I understand most, you know, not most. I understand some people aren't and that's cool

but I think that there are options to this where, you know, Cadi has it, can know, caddy has it. Can't play or doesn't hear anything. The caddy might elaborate a little more, but you can hear us talk about the shot. I think that in the very least would be an improvement. Can I, I mean, the payoff for golf fans is obvious. Can I make a total pitch that you can use? If you need this, you know, the first thing I was thinking of was what I was watching.

It was you were uninterrupted on camera for like many minutes in a row. And if you need a tiebreaker for the pip at the end of the year, there's a Nielsen rating to this thing, right? Like you got in. And if you need, if people want to, you know, start racing each other on this kind of pip thing, there's a great thing for golf fans. And there could be tremendous financial benefit. All your sponsors got a shitload of airtime.

The golf fans made, like made benefit for it. And I thought there was so much positive that came from that. And if players need convincing, like, that could be a thing. Colin, if you're tired of finishing 11th, this will be a great thing for you. And then once everybody's doing it, it kind of becomes a little bit of an arms race. I just think that there's benefits to be had all around with it. And we appreciate you leading by example on that. Thank you. Yeah, I do think that I definitely thought of the exposure part. I guess I didn't go straight to pit, but that does make sense. But I thought, I thought if I had a dream world, I think every, after the second round,

every, anybody in, they, they go to a group in 20th place in the TV window ahead of the lead. And not knowing if they're going to go ball out or have a tough day or whatever, but they'll be in a good time to kind of prep what's about to happen, you know, and 20 fish plates, and they ask the guy in the group, hey, would you be comfortable being mic'd up. if you can get somebody in there who it could be somebody who wants to be a part of it just because they like the idea. It could be somebody who just wants exposure because I do think that a tough part about our gig out here is if you're not one of the top guys you don't get random TV time. You get, hey, I'm playing phenomenal TV time. Exposure is great. You can bring that to sponsors or you can just enjoy it and be like, look, you know, your son, your dad's

on TV, like watch this, like this is so cool. It is cool. Embrace being an entertainer. You guys are entertainers. Embrace it. So I think there's options to it. And I hope, you know, people probably won't catch on right away, but I told Andy, I'm down to do this as long as he wants for, you know, until maybe somebody catches on.

And if it doesn't ever work, then I, you know, I guess to your point, I'll just fly up this pit, pit rankings tiger is shaking in his boots right now. That's a lot to be cool too, just for, for doing it on the correct hole, whether it's somebody who's not in the hunt and you watch them and hear them play that whole, like, like 18 would be a perfect example. Somebody has, you know, who 42 in, you hear their,

you hear their conversation with their caddy, and then you file that away for when the leaders are coming down the stretch and they have that same shot, you know. That's exactly how I looked at it. I was like, I, it worked out. I was always going to do this one. So it worked out that, you know, I was late in the telecast. So it felt important, but like I want it where someone plays it, you watch golf all day,

which it can be tough, you know, in the beginning, but at the end of every day, who doesn't matter around, it gets more exciting on the, on the, on the final two rounds, at least. But I, I want it so that, oh, man, now, John Rom's coming down this whole, we already watched this. He's exactly where so-and-so was, and he made a mess of it or he made Eagle. You know, and like you're like, you already have a context dealing towards that, yeah, you have context. So that's how I like it to be.

It worked out this week in a weird way, but it was the first one, like I said, I was always gonna do it. So we were just hoping for anything. I had to make the cut to make it work. So I had a little extra pressure, but yeah. Like I said, there's a lot of variations to it. I can see I want to give a shout out on the pod DJ Pi helped me a lot with this. Once

Andy came to me with the idea I called I have these weekly solved the world's problems calls with DJ Pi and he you know, I we talked about this a lot and he gave me good info as to what you know you guys the fans want it know and what we could kind of provide. And that's why I was really impressed by CBS going to the questions were about the shots, the club choices, the decision making, that's what it is. It is not a walk-in talk, it's not how are your kids. It is for you guys, not for us. kids. It is, it is for you guys not for us. I think too, just to piggyback on this, you know, they, um, on the ESPN plus coverage this week, right? They have featured holes. I think it'd be really

interesting to get this concept as almost a stream at event, right? Where, like, I'm thinking like the, the nine toll at Harbor Town, for instance, that just has a ton of different decisions off the tee. You couldn't do it with every group because of the nature of how the groups play the whole. But maybe it's like every other whole, man, that's a stream I would love to tune into, especially early

in the tournament, the first couple days watching, or like the shit, the 10th at Riviera would be another one. You'd have to have buy in, right? And you'd have to get guys from each of these groups to participate. But yeah, it's such a cool concept. I think they could do a lot with it. I honestly think to that point, right? That's a good point. I think you could just take the A on hold because they don't do enough with that anyways. And just pick a couple guys to do that each week. and and just file it away for When the time is needed you could post produce that and then just throw it out there because do you guys know what the A on risk

Wardhole was this week? Okay, yeah, so I usually usually don't know to look in your book So it's like I'm assuming not everybody gets what whole it is. So it'd be nice to have a, you know, context to why it is the first gourd hole. But, you know, they actually did a better job this week of explaining why. Like it was, there was some strokes gained stuff and some statistics and stuff to back it up. It was good. Sometimes it's just like a quick like it. And this is the A on whole. It's like sick. Well, Max, we're not going to keep you forever, man. We could, of course, but I know you got you got a, he's got beers to drink. Yeah, you got some party, a delayed partying to get to that straw hat on Randy. Yeah. Hey, I did want to say, Max, you know,

you and I sitting on the living room. We were arguing about Ricky Fowler. Now here you are with more PGA tour wins than Ricky Fowler. What a wonder. Can you give me a couple of minutes or any, can you do this thing? You promised me you would do it when I got good. Oh my God. What, what did I promise? Do you tell me that I, I just, if I don't win a major, I'm just a bump sellout who's not good enough to work.

If any, if any accolades. Yeah, you've won enough now. It's time I see no yellow on your majors for the Wikipedia page. It's, it's disgusting. It's a disgrace. Many people think you're a fluffer. I think there are, you know, a lot of concerns coming out. Can Max can't compete in the big ones.

I think that's the story. He's on the death watch list. And yeah, and we're really considering you for death watch at the end of this year. So that's good luck. That's I think every win I have puts me one more foot under to you, but it's not an age. Yeah, it's six feet down.

Great. That's a good. That's not good. I thank you for that, Randy. I needed that. I'll say justified and not mentioning your T3 at century as well, because that's irrelevant. That's irrelevant now, because you just appreciate that. But sincerely, though, we're so pumped for a band. It's very cool to see you have all this success. We know how freaking hard you've worked for it and have done such a great job entertaining golf fans along the way and letting people in. And that's not easy to balance all that. So congratulations. We're so pumped for you. It feels very, it

still feels surreal. I still like can't fully trust it's like, I'm probably looking at this like through biased lens. Like this is my friend up here when he can't be that good is he? And he really is. So it's just, it's just fucking awesome. It was so cool watching you. I think you were doing an interview with Kira and you could see Lacey rocking Cam in the background. It was really, really cool. You said some nice things about Lacey as well, just, you know,

kind of, hey, like she lets you get really good at golf and practice golf and focus on that. It's cool to see the perspective, man. You need, yeah, the perspective, but you need help in this, man, in any job, and she has a much harder one than I do. But speaking of kids, they're ready to get that ice cream.

That was the greatest text message. For anybody who doesn't know, Tron was texting our group like two days ago, and you must be doing the voice text. So's like oh Max, you know great job today Hey Freddie calm down. We're going to get ice cream Yeah, he did more the next day. Yeah, we were all like like huddled around my phone We're at Jurassic World like like live down at like the arena here in Jacksonville and we're all hung around my phone Freddie was more excited about you.

You win. Anything I was. It was awesome. So it was his birthday yesterday. So it was a it was a cool birthday present. So happy birthday to Mr. Frederick. Well, Trond's not telling you this, Max, but Trond told Freddie that you would win for him on his birthday.

It was kind of a his stands, uh, you know, Apollo, Neil situation. So stressful. Good. I'm not for her. Yeah. Yeah. I got you. Well, thank you, boys.

This was also just added. Awesome to get this alert that I had this to do today via like the title is people. Usually it's just a text. I texted you last night. You never responded to our group chat. I was kind of like, oh, maybe maybe he's ready to move on I was coming in I was coming but I was just surprised that like my agent goes hey

So like Sali and the no laying up boys are gonna do something with title is and you're gonna be involved if you want I'm like yeah, man, so we do it's like every time Carlos you when it was Callaway, so it was just funny to get this from a from the actual like higher ups this time. All right. Well, thank you, brother. Enjoy the football today and go in. I love you boys. Yeah. See you. Max. Bye. So when foot joy wins, you also win Max wears foot joy from head to toe, including foot joy apparel and premier series shoes and to celebrate Max's

win foot joy is giving you the chance to win a similar head to toe look for yourself. All you got to do go to the no-ling up Instagram post that Teases or previews this episode with Max. Like the post and follow foot joy, they're going to pick a random winner from those entries. Oh, guys, I wouldn't, I mean, we set a whole agenda for today, not expecting that we are going to spend 45 minutes with the champ of the event this week.

But I think, I feel like we've covered the max stuff. But where do you guys want to go next? Yeah. This might be a six hour pod. Well, I should note, we are recording this Sunday, of course. And the final round of the event in Dubai has not been played yet. We're going to talk some about that. But we do not know who the winner is.

Roy leads by three, but just putting putting that out there for now. It's noon on Sunday. Uh, I just, I don't know. I can't get over how much max loves the moment. Loves the pump loves that he just he just loves that decisive, you know, defining moment or moments like the par upon eight, the shots that he had into the par threes played the par threes three under the final round, which is those those par threes are insane.

And just like he's he's he's starting to develop this full arsenal of shots that's just it's like truly like there's maybe three guys in the world that have this full arsenal. It's crazy. I don't regret anything. I've ever said about how difficult it is to win and how regret anything I've ever said about how difficult it is to win and how hard like how hard is to frickin rack up wins against fields like this and all that. But Max Max's ability to have thrown made me look horrible on all that stuff. How easy he's made it to look to win six frickin times on the PGA tour is what blows my mind the most like it is not half is not even a hit the fact that he's never had a second is insane like like Jack Nicholas had 19 second place finishes in majors in Max's never had

to runner up. Every close call he's had. He's won. That's so unlikely. And it speaks to something like there is definitely something there. I mean five, five wins in his last what 44 or 45 starts. 46 starts. I believe yes. Only only ROM has one more than him since the beginning of 2021. It's crazy how, how, how lucky he's gotten in relation to like a big tone. There it is. You're trying too hard. You're trying too hard with this. You're reaching too far with there's something there, though, man. Like it's something that the stats can't pick up, right? It's also one five times now. Like you can't do this anymore. But they're not big dick events. Like he's one, two big dick events, not five times now. Like you can't do this anymore. But they're not big dick events. Like he's one two big dick events, not five. I think, I think, sorry, let me, let me try to thread this needle here as somebody

that's been vociferously on one side. I do not want to make this a comparison to Fina, but I think specific to Max himself, the winning, you know what, five times in his last 46 starts, having five victories, trailing after 54 holes. I mean, we are so fortunate and the audience, he has been explicit in how hard he has worked at this. And I think here in him, his interview just moments ago, like he works really, really hard. And I don't want to take anything away from other people because I don't know how hard everybody else is working. You know, we get this insight into Max on a pretty regular basis, which is cool.

But I will say, you know, it's, it's like any other sport. You got to think that guys aren't work necessarily working as hardest max. And so I drawn to your point, I think that that is what shines through. Like that, that's that intangible it. That's helping him collect these wins. I mean, it at a certain point, it's, yo, you've, you've put in the work and now you're reaping the rewards. I don't know. I think that's kind of simplistic, but at the same time, it's like, yeah, if you work that hard and prepare that much, good things are going to happen. And it's not like a fiend out saying, I'm just, I'm using him as an example, but you could have said the same thing about, you know, other guys in the past. I think it's always something where everybody works hard out there. But when guys,

when your peers call out just how hard you work and just how like and and I think the amount of self belief that that creates and the amount of confidence too that that I mean same thing with Joe Maxis Cady Joe Griner like those two have like the the level of trust that Max has in Joe and like reading the golf magazine piece on Max from a couple weeks ago too. It's like Joe reading the golf magazine piece on Max from a couple of weeks ago too. It's like Joe, Joe, I think is the one that brought Max's coach, Blackburn into the fold as well. Like Joe's, Joe is, you know, part of this equation as is Lacey, right? Like she's allowing him to focus on the stuff that he needs to focus on. It's, it's just awesome to see all this stuff play out in real time. It's, it's insane. But I'll say to this too, though,

yes, to the obviously to all the working hard stuff, but you can't work hard at hitting the best possible shots under the maximum pressure. Like that, that, that, that is something that's different, right? That's something that you can't simulate. I don't care how many. There's an element, of course, to that of repetition and knowing it's there, but I just speaks to a, I hate to use a generalization of like a killer mentality thing, of course, to that of repetition and knowing it's there, but I just speaks to a I hate to use a generalization Like a killer mentality thing, but do that. There's something different about that. There's definitely something to that. I think that's true. I personally believe that It's a product of preparation and the more prep you put in

The more relaxed the more you're able to allow yourself to perform in those moments. That's my belief. And I will also say, you know, I think Max is a huge fan of Kobe Bryant, right? You know, everybody, all NBA players work hard, but my favorite stories are when those guys would then go work out with Kobe,

and it was like, oh, no, I didn't really know what working hard meant until I went with him. Now, I don't know if Max is on Kobe's level, but I know he loves that, you know, grinding through the process. And that's, you know, that's where I think a lot of this, you know, why don't certain guys win a little bit more. I think it kind of comes back to that, but it's hard to know because we just don't have that window into all these guys off the course.

An unnamed Torpro had told us back in May of last year was kind of like a, when he said it, I was kind of like, okay, well, maybe. Again, kind of going back to that. That's our friend. I don't know if I could really picture this, but so like, no, Max is like set on like being the best part in the world, like number one in the world. And man that just looks a little different, nine months later, whatever that is, since we heard that comment, it's kind of like, man, it is very, very possible.

It really is. And I just see the confidence in him marrying up like what he's talking about with true visualization is it's God mode. It really is. I mean, that's such a, this is, I, Genesis is what it is. Like that, this was a more impressive win to me to do that. Gains eight shots on the field on a Sunday on a difficult golf course and make it look easy was just freaking amazing, dude. I'm so excited for it to bear itself in majors, right? Because it's, you know, like he's doing this on some of the best courses on the PGA tour,

like from a, you know, some of the toughest plays that went on the PGA tour, whether that's Riviera or like Quail Aloe, Big Boy Golf Course, or TBC Potomac, like that place is fucking hard. It's like that. And then like, I mean, shit, he holds the course record at LACC, right? Like he's like, you know, I'm just like, I've been, I've already said it like last, I think last year, I'm like, I think Max at LACC, but like, I think that's just, it's like, let's just lean into it, right? Like that would be the ultimate hometown win. I think Max needs to, he's won three of the five tournaments in California

now. I think he needs to go win Pebble. He needs to go in Palm Springs. I think, you know, like be the king of California, man. He needs to go back down and win a corn, the stone braid. They still have that corn fair event. He needs to go win that one. Like he needs to just sweep all of the California events. But RVN, SCN said Max Holmer realistic chances at Augusta. No recency bias. Like I'm starting to realize the chances are everywhere. Yeah, I mean like a whole lake, you know, Oak Hill. It's, you know, yeah. That's what's fun about this conversation is I don't think the world golf rankings have been updated, but he's essentially like a top 10 player in the world. So yeah, he kind of is like,

he needs to be in the conversation at every major, I feel like. And to do all this like after having your first kid. Yes, seriously. That shit messes with you man. Like your sleep cycles, your just your emotions, like all that. I mean, that's, that's even more impressive. It's just awesome. He hasn't lost a step.

He hasn't lost a beat. All right, I think we've appropriately fluffed him as close to an hour. I think that was we were ready to move on from this. But he needs a top 10 in a major. That's be serious. He needs one badly this year. Thank you for standing firm on that with Randy. I was going to say if Keegan messed that up yesterday, that was going to be like an all-time nut tap, you know, punch in the gut. That would have been awful. Yeah, we're thankful for that. Sam Rider played a freaking amazing golf tournament. He led that tournament for like 48 hours and that's just a very, very taxing place to do that, I think, and it finally, finally warmed down. He hit the ball really, really well on Saturday had a ton of good looks at birdie and hit what looked like really

good putts that that found edges. And it was, to me, it was kind of like, all right, this looks sustainable, like this ball striking looks sustainable. And if he gets some putts to go, he might be able to stretch this lead out enough that no one's able to catch him. But he had caught up with him, bad T shot on on Sunday. Causton made a double bogey. Saturday. Saturday. So the fourth round. The tournament damage are killing us. God damn it. On Saturday, you're right. Round four and he ends up finishing a T-4, which I was, yeah, it was, that was a long as a tough one. It wasn't impressive to hold on for that long. It was.

It was. What did really well? I think I think it kind of went away with the shot over the green on eight. That was tough. How's it tough, tough leave? Yeah. I watched Friday and I just could not believe his back nine round three Friday. How many six to 10 foot par putts he was making on that poof? Like that's when it was like God this just does not really feel sustainable for him. But props to him he hung around it's a hell of a finish and a

result for him. I'll say this. It's that sketchy. So that's the sustainability point as the golf channel is going off the air Sunday. So he had birdie the first hole and then he made a bunch of bars through then and I forget who it was kind of teed it up of saying like Sam Rider has, you know, settled into his round. And Frank Nobleau put his like hand up. I was like, I don't think he has. I don't think he has settled. Yeah, it was sands in Nobleau and Nobleau, like, and sands was like, all right. So, you know, he settled in. He's like, no, I do not. I want to very, very, very vocally say I do not. I don't think he's it. Yeah. And that was a good point. And I, I don't have to go full hamster, damn, now I get a lot to say probably on that.

But the early golf jittle coverage was just awesome. I mean, nobler and Oberholz or Kurt Byron are a really great trio at describing exactly what you're, look, describing what's going on without describing exactly what's on the screen. All of the, they compliment each other really well. They, they're describing all the factors that your eyes don't necessarily see. And it just, you can take your eyes off the screen a little bit and kind of understand exactly what kind of challenge somebody has in front of them and how things are going. And that was, uh, I, I, I, I, in my mind, I don't know

if those three have really worked together. But that sounded different to me and really, really engaging. And I wanted to shout that one out. But it's all a good point to about rider in our notes where it's always tough when you see a guy get crowned maybe a little bit by the North course. One thing about this tournament when somebody goes out and runs from people on the North and then just kind of like holds on in the South, it feels just slightly cheap, right? I mean, the North and South ask, I mean, granted everyone plays that rotation those first two days, but the South just asks very different

questions than the North does. And he was one under par on the South course for the week. And so, you know, even if he'd finished that 12 under, he would have been, you know, only four under on the South course this week. And that just didn't scream like winner of this event. And so it it's hard to survive. You know, that it was kind of what Kyle Stanley did back in 2012 was he posted a ridiculously low number on the North and just tried to hold on on the South and did for a long time. And obviously it did not work out on the 18th. 11 years later, that one still stings a little bit.

But I think the most important question that comes to rider though, the biggest topic of conversation was the joggers. And a lot, I believe somebody described it as half of a onesie. I need some opinions on these because I'm in on joggers on the golf course. I think it's the shoe combos what I think we're gonna get from TC. That's where I'm at.

I think you gotta wear joggers with the more athletic, more kind of, you know, just non-traditional golf shoes. Was it the style issue or the color issue? Because some people were going to grief about wearing black shoes with them. I think it's like the style of the shoe. I think, you know, I like, because I've seen the same guys

where the premier is with like a white shoe. I think it looks bad there too. So for me, it was the color of the joggers. It was tough. I kind of doubt the color. Wine marina. I saw you love that color. You I love that color. Wine, marina. I saw you love that color. You always said that color.

I, I, yeah. And my fashion sense is certainly not anything to speak of, but it didn't bother me. I, you know, some people's outfits bother me. I didn't, nothing about his outfit bothered me. Uh, the other fill. It did bother. Well, that's right. Phil Mikkelson had a tweet saying, you know, why aren't shorts allowed yet these, uh, I'm not sure if it's a lot of people. It did bother Phil. Phil Mikkelson had a tweet saying, you know, why aren't shorts

allowed yet these these I forget whether it actually was unblocked, of course. But me too. Somebody's screen shot it. It was like, but he's showing like four inches. Like what's the difference between ankles and. He sounds like a nun. Habs. There's something. Yeah, measuring, measuring the space between like the top of a, or the bottom of the skirt and the top of the knee.

You get in the ruler out. Yeah. As always, as always, Phil, the answer to this question is in the PGA tour handbook. I don't know if you still have one. I believe you've given up your membership or I can't even keep track of what Phil did exactly. But the answer is in there. I'm sure I believe there's a difference between the two, but Phil decided to give a little chippy couple times on Twitter this past week,

allegedly. Somebody reacted to that tweet and I apologize I don't have him in front of me, but I'm just remembering it was like, dude, they paid you $200 million. Why do you still care about this stuff? And I was like, yeah, that's a good point. Also, like maybe Phil should care about like, like, can women wear joggers? Like, do his bossas let women wear joggers? His boss is not women wear shorts. Off like that. T.C. that's an interesting question.

And I was begging you to put that on Twitter. So you could get blocked and they could put our two tweets up in the hall of fame for, uh, because I still think that one was my favorite one ever. The one that got me blocked. But I didn't want to fight all the live bots yesterday. That's fair, you know, that's, that's for Sundays, not Saturdays. The rare stinker from Ram, the 74, we worried about Ram going forward. Like, can he close the deal? Right. Does he stink? That's the question. I would done by an acorn.

Oh, I hope, which, you know, I may need to share the clip of how much Reddy's face just lit up as soon as I started joking about that because I think he's serious. No, I'm not. Rob, Rob's a very good golfer. He's winning more. He's winning. I commensurate with, with the world class player. It's, it's fantastic, but that was a tough break. His his his for his front nine was that Friday,

front nine, the 30. Yeah, and then he just totally hit the skids there at the turn. I do think he was Doddy mentioned it yesterday. I do think he was a little bit unsettled by writer's pace of play. You know, he just seemed all out of sorts and was kind of, you know, just struggling to kind of find a rhythm, which listen, that's probably something he needs to get better at, right? It's got, he's got to be exhausted and honestly, the foul has turned around from, from Emma, like to play the pro M Tuesday, which he was not real happy about rolling into the Wednesday start.

He had a really sluggish start on Wednesday and then caught fire. It, I mean, I was, I was more honestly more surprised to see him like in contention with a very good chance to win than I was, like, surprised that he faded just because that's just really frickin hard to do. I would guess. I would, I would guess winning takes a lot out of you. Again, I'm just going off the things that we hear for people, but it, it would, I think it goes down as a really good week for him. His double on five, like where he had, I mean, he kind of made a mess. He had several chips. He had an acorn underneath the ball,

which, you know, kind of an homage to the Homoan, the Spanish ham, Homoan, Iberico. But making that putt even, like for double, like he made what, like a 12, 15 foot putt for double, it's like, man, like this guy, like it's tough. Yeah, it just felt like kind of a, all right, like, you know, what you're probably exhausted. This was a weird double kind of caught up with you, but then to make the pot was like, all right, shit, like he's still battling, man. I'm calling on somebody. I know there's a lot of announcers that are listening to this

shit, listeners to this show. I'm calling on somebody to sneak in a booey reference. You don't have to call him the booey, but I want somebody to make a unsinkable kind of, just to float that Easter egg out there just for the Twitter folks, because so many people on Twitter now are calling him the booey. A lot of people I run into in the streets come up to me

and say, how did you come up with that nickname, the booey? Everyone, all my friends are saying it behind the scenes, but I want somebody to say it on TV. That's the next frontier for this nickname that everyone is using. It was, uh, yeah. I think, you know, how much I, I think the other interesting question with that final group was how much was, did Rom and Fino kind of be in house cats there affect Sam Rider? That's my question.

Guys, phenol was not going to address that. He was seven over on the part threes this week. T71 in the field. That kind of puts into context like phenol. Phenol should have been right there. Phenol, the phenol is already high catch a break. High and fuller is getting even higher. Like he's he's turned from like a again, this stroke's game nerd stuff, but like one and a half stroke difference to two stroke difference is enormous. And he's turning into a two stroke average player, which is kind of the same way Max is elevated his floor. Like Fina is around even more.

And of course, racking up the wins to go along with it as well. So I want to see some wins off, you know, at courses besides like TPC twin cities, things of that nature. We all would listen. Houston was a very real golf course. I think we can agree on that. Warcawa. Let's start more. I mean, I felt like you lead, you lead. Hey, like solid. That that fairways hit statistic. It's mind blowing. 46 and 56 fairways at Tory Pines. Like you just don't see that. Just absolutely threading it. Hidden. I mean, again, just like really freaking good golf. I put it pretty decent. I mean, the numbers say this

week, 27th and putting this week, he's just, uh, I think this is, you know, people are looking at that century thing, wondering, you know, if that's, if they're scar tissue, whatnot, dude, I think this is an extremely encouraging start to the year for more of Kawa. It didn't feel like it was his total best stuff. And he was second in stress, KD degree in this week. Second best ball striker in the field. That's the crazy thing.

I think like watching him, it's like I felt like he was sloppy with certain shots like dumping a, you know, dumping a few like front right bunker and stuff, but it's just like man, he's like, he finished solo third like without his, without his A game. Like that's he's gonna, there's gonna be three or four weeks this year where he completely fucks people up. T.C. when you said that in our text thread, it resonated with me because I thought of, you know, he had a wedge in his hand on number nine, for example, and walks away with Bogey, has a short iron in on 17.

I mean, it was, he was kind of out of it by then a little bit, but, you know, walks away with Bogey there as well. So it's weird. It's like, yes, he hit the ball so well and did so much, right? But then a couple instances, just bad misses and not being able to save the par, right? And I think that's where, you know, as I'm looking at his performance, kind of the shot gain around the green is maybe what's overall holding him back

a little bit. And I think that was, we saw that a bit this week as well. It's just not tidy. He's just not tidy. The scoring is not tidy. Like the essentials are there. Like you're just, when you are that forceful with your ball striking, you're gonna be there

no matter what. And if it does become tidy, and the main thing with Morrical, though, is he's gonna need a feel that sticks, right? It can't be a new chipping motion and a new putting motion that works for you every time. Like you're gonna need a field that's gonna stick with you for your career. And it just seems like, you know, for every three, for every two events he's got,

that field going he has three that he doesn't and he just ends up with like a, you know, a third or fourth place finish that could have easily been a win. Very excited to watch him at at at Rive. I think it's going to be interesting. I think he's going to he should be trending towards that. I'm buying more power right now though. That's I'm I'm in on that. Sahih the quiet T4 again, a floor that seems to be on the rise. And I didn't I didn't let myself I didn't go in the emotional journey this weekend.

I did I didn't I was I am ready to go on the emotional journey this weekend. I didn't, I was, I am ready to go on it. I am ready to hurt again, but I didn't get emotionally invested in this one this week. I think it's just we're kind of expecting him to be near the top of leaderboards now. I am extremely confident he's going to win a tournament at some point this year. Agreed. That was a crazy putty made on 12, too. Yes. Like 50 footer. That was a crazy putty made on 12 to like 54. That's wild. I don't know if you ran a glute, Randy Big Dick Rick made quite a sighting on the leaderboard, but did have a tough Sunday. Very much. It's fine. Well, he was, you know, he faded pretty hard from the from that back end

because he was, he made five birdies on the front and I went out and three under and then birdied 18 to break 40 on the back. So I would call that a rather tough Sunday. I listen, I just, you know, I feel like it's not really sporting anymore to punch down on Ricky. But I do like to move back to, to Butch. I actually, I think he's going to play some good golf this year. Now, whether that results in some wins, I don't know, but I think we're going to see him around, which is good, which is all no one. That's a good thing for everyone involved. He already is playing good golf. He's up to 21st in the FedEx cup. It's crazy. There you have it. So Eric Barnes, T13 didn't think I saw a shot of him. Big text Jimmy Walker, your guy or Andy? Love it. Honestly, not sure

I saw a shot of him. Didn't know he was playing. You know, Jason day T7 went past that one as well. And that I believe that that brings you going down the leaderboard from T-Six. All right, so Jason Day, I didn't realize like his iron stats aren't just like never been very good. I always like pictured him as a really good iron player. And he's just not. It's weird. Hmm.

Taylor Montgomery finally cooled off, who's plus six on the weekend. He was right there after, after Thursday. We had a Vincent Norman siding that really, really got me a flutter. I was happy there. Aaron Rye shot 64, 78, first two days, which was awesome. There's North, North South splits will get you.

And then we had, yeah, there were some ejections there, the final round. Tano Goya tough, tough go of it for Tano Goya on, on, on, on Friday. And then I just wanted to give a shout out to ZB. He had a vintage fall well situation, credit to anti-fowl to for that. But he was playing with Bretton Steel and Sam Ryder the first two days. And they were one, one in two. It was just kind of hanging out over on the sidewalking.

ZB is a player for those that are not full initiated. But and then do we need to talk about Hedecki? We haven't talked about Hedecki yet. He was flashing a little bit. He was flashing a little bit. He was fourth and putting this week, which is alarming. I what do you have to say about Hedecki? Shots 69 69 on the weekend. Like I don't know, played really really well. He shot 69 69 on the weekend. Like, I don't know, played really, really well. Just he seems to be getting healthy. 39 on the back nine.

Yeah, because he went out in 30 and he was very much involved in this tournament when he turned it. He was 10 under par going into that back nine with a couple of getable par fives in the back nine definitely played pretty difficult yesterday. But some disappointing finishes. It was, it played 37.3 in the front. I played 36.7 yesterday. But any concerns with JT? Or is it just he just got married?

And I, concerns is relative. Like he hasn't played great golf over the last like year. I mean, if you just look at strokes game in general, I guess it may of course he won the major championship and you trade all the all the data for peaking in that one week. But I don't think he loves this golf course. I don't think he's ever really had success here. If I remember right, I was kind of a stay away from him on this one for whatever reason. But yeah, not not sharp to this point. I think you can kind of say the same ish. I mean,

Zander finished T13, but you know, your hometown event, you're kind of expecting a lot from him and this one as well. So. Yeah, JT 125th in the FedEx cup right now. Yeah, I mean, basically took the fall off, I think, right? So it's, we're only like halfway through the season T.C. Come on. Last guy want to give a shout out to just going down the leaderboard. My guy, Tiger, Tiger, semi-carlo, made the cut tough, final round 79, but just wanted to shout him out for making the cut bright future there Do you see Ben on's tweet where he said he was just he was like I've never just had to try so hard to break 80 83 and found around golf is hard man golf is hard. I don't want to play that golf course

I'm very good. You have a note in here about small crowds I thought the crowds look freaking enormous. They were huge on Saturday, but they were tiny on Friday. Yeah, that's gonna happen. I think that's which, you know, I know it's like, all right, it's it's a weekday or whatever. And you know, in Colt Nostrad had a reply like, oh, I think they were trying to limit, you know, the size of the crowds on Friday. I'm not sure if that's just deadless, less volunteers who are willing to pay to volunteer, Randy, on a weekday. But, but yeah, I mean, like,

what do you think about the Saturday finishes? Is it working any, any concerns, any ideas, just overall sentiment there? I think it's the best of a bad situation. I think it would be a shame if like Max's win went up against conference championships. Or you know, if that would happen this afternoon, it's great for us. I think it's it's it's very, very fitting. It's nice to be able to download and take a day and then kind of record the pod the next day.

So maybe a little selfish in viewing that. But I just unless you got a two TV setup and you care that much about golf and football, I don't, I totally see and I appreciate farmers doing this. I think they take a financial hit. It's very far from ideal, I think for them, but I think the more Saturday finishes we could get while football is happening, the better for the PGA tour. I think it suits better for viewing. I don't know. I think it would work a lot better. Again, if a lot of events went Wednesday to Saturday, it would take some adjusting and get used to, but they pay the price and they're the only ones that kind of pay the price for this at the moment.

Question for you. Why not Friday to Monday? Man, you're infringing upon the next week's thing, but there's no Monday night football. There's no, you're getting two weekend days for hospitality and all that. And I think it works. It probably works for like a prime time finish West Coast. I'd be interested to get an answer on that.

That would be, that'd be an interesting question I wonder if they've considered that. There's probably reasons why not, but I would, I think the same thing would be helpful on that front as well. I think that'd be a good thing. Randy, what do you think of it? I really liked it.

I told you guys in our planning meeting this week, I am happy to do the podcast as long as we're not up against the AFC Championship game. And I really actually enjoyed, I mean, it's been cold and snow this year and to have the finish yesterday, I thought, it worked out really well. Now, trying to your point about Monday, Friday to Monday, that's interesting. I don't have to think about like from a viewing standpoint, how that would affect. I think there, yeah, I don't know, that's very interesting. A few other notes from Farmers, we have another zalatorus up close putting video that's surfaced on the other webs. Guys, I'm in on it. I love it. I think that's his way of putting short

putts that leads to the most made putts. I don't think it's a yip anymore. I think it's like that is a, it's a conscious thing to like, I need to get this putter moving in a weird way and that's how I'm going to make putts with it. I'm in on it. I think it's awesome. I think in a weird way and that's how I'm going to make putts with it. I'm in on it. I think it's awesome. It's jarring and it's exciting and it's horrifying and I love it. I'm with you. Makes me feel alive. Yeah. Also, JB Holmes back. Second starts since July 2021. Mixed the cut, but I was asking some people, I'm like, hey, like, where did he go? Is he just injured? And they're like, yeah, he was injured. He's also cleaning up in the real estate game up in Nashville. Like, Moot selling properties or is he just like flipping houses or what?

Yeah, I guess it's Trubidor, the discovery Lanco property. He went deep into that and he's just crushing it. He doesn't even need to flick off anymore. Damn, that's impressive. He's probably in the crypto game too, Sal. I was disappointed in Salalator's this week. I thought I was really looking forward to seeing him on, you know, I seen him on a major course like this. It difficult set up. I was, I was hoping he would really play well. Yeah, CBD on, I mean, going from birdie fest to, to, to real golf, if

you will, it was just another reason I like, I always feel like I would enjoy Tori as it's a great change of pace from the first few weeks of the year which are just like pin your ears back in Bernie. Like this was real consequential golf and yeah, it's just asked a lot of different questions. So I'm anxious to see how he bounces back from the back injury.

He's been a lot of time, I mean, relatively a large amount of time away from the game and we're still figuring that out. But hamster dam, so up and we're still figuring that out. But hamps are damn. So up and down on this, I think. I mean, I, you know, we're quick to congratulate everyone involved with, you know, the initiative that happened on Friday and round three with Max and CBS's,

other than their debut on Friday was freaking phenomenal. I think it was my overwhelming takeaway was like, the commercial load is gonna always be what it is, but it just didn't feel big on Friday. And my overall, if I had to sum it up in one sense, was like, dude, if golf coverage looked like that over the last decade, we probably wouldn't ever need to comment on it, right?

We wouldn't need to focus as much attention on it. It would just be not as noticeable as being bad, and I just wanna just bridge the gap between, like, reminding people of how bad it was, like almost missing Jordan's beef winning a golf tournament, showing like the 72nd whole of majors, guys like the only chances left to win, like showing them on tape delay and missing shots on like the 70th whole of tournaments and like feeling like they lost track of golf tournaments, which is no longer the feeling I get when I watch golf on CBS. I think that's where

they've made such great improvements really to get a to a point where it's passable. Like I don't want to get over over a complimentary of it because it just feel like golf coverage should have been this way for a long time. And Aiman Lynch had a great calm about it. He said, the moment with Max didn't happen now because those in charge of broadcasting golf have never considered how to better do their jobs or couldn't be bothered pitching fresh approaches to Pontavidra.

Every executive involved in televised in the tour has a tale about how their effort to in live and telecast was stone walled. Chocolate up to a combination of factors, corporate complacency, a culture of arrogance, a milk toast reluctance to inconvenience, the very players that are rewarding with millions of dollars annually. I'm like, damn, that's lethal, right? We've always gotten a ton of reasons why things can't happen. And it's like, dude, no, you three networks, players and Tora, get it, get your heads together and figure

out how to do it. Like, this is everything. Figure out how to do it. And they finally, after years of begging have, have seemed to have turned a corner in that way. Yeah, I think we're what? Six years on, seven years on from the thing I wrote on, yeah, on, uh, Tora, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, rib. Yes, seven years on them. Yeah. It took seven years, you know, but think we're there. Uh, forgetting there. Even yesterday, it felt like, teller shy in the gang, like, made a concerted effort as soon as Keegan was kind of, like, they almost went to him early, right? Of like, hey, just in case this guy,

yeah, no one's sneaking up on him right anymore. Yeah. Yeah. It was very much like, oh, man, like maybe they're airing on that other side, which was, which was, you know, in Keegan's case sucked, but it was great to see on a macro level. DC, I, to 2023 is the year of, of no beef. But it, but he's on the carnivore diet. Keegan's on the carnivore diet. So he gets a bad pass there.

Is this beef with keegan though? Is this like you're pulling it out of the freezer? What's going on here? Yeah, it's like some trimmings that I'm pulling out of the freezer. I'm making a stock, but it's prime trimmings. It's from a it's from a prime rib that I had in the freezer. The biggest thing for me, I mean, it seems like they're they're they're rethinking a lot of things. They're like, nothing's there. Nothing's part of

the furniture, right? They're trying to be conscientious about everything, whether it's the A-on risk reward challenge, the bumper music, some of the graphics that they're using. I thought Trevor's trends was great. I learned something each time from that. I think the just not having FALDO in the beef, like it cannot be overstated, like how groundbreaking that is. Everyone else gets better, but with having like Trevor in that seat to like speak in full complete senses and speak pointedly and talk to golfers,

it just I just felt like nobbelo was the best. I feel like I've heard him in years and I think that is from that contribution alone. You know, the commercials are still an issue here and there. Like, I thought it would be awesome if they could have gone followed Max and Joe down the fairway and listened to them talk through. That was tough. Yeah. You know, but I get it. There's, you got to play within the sandbox and you know, the sandbox is probably too small from a, from a minutes of, of actual coverage standpoint. If I can bridge that T.C., it feels like the things that CBS is responsible for are

responsible for, they've got under control now, right? And like above the seller's shy and the nances and all the things that they can do, it is, you know, at the tour level and at the CBS and NBC executive level, they've obviously agreed on these commercial packages that's not going to change, right? We're going to still bitch about it, but that part's not going to change. But what makes it more tolerable is the windows that you are live and on the air, like covering it like a very, like a real golf event and making it feel elevated and I feel very comfortable with that now. They've changed so much in the last three years and like I feel like people are on us a little bit of like,

you guys don't complain about TV coverage as much anymore because you're PGA toward D-Riders now. It's like, no, dude, we're being honest about this. We never wanted to be the ones that always had to complain about it. But if we can't shout out improvements, then we're also doing a disservice to everyone involved with making very real efforts to make it better. And that's the feeling I got Friday.

It was like, holy shit, man. Look at how far we've come. Who would have thought? Sunday. I thought felt like, yeah, who would have thought Sunday felt like a Saturday, excuse me, round four, felt like a step back. And like, I noticed the commercial load again. It was just, it was tough. It was just a lot. But again, it's just like, I don't know what the workaround is at this point. There were also like a shit load of guys in the mix. Yeah. Yeah. Like it was very, shitload of guys in the mix. Yeah. Like it was very, I think subjectively to the biggest thing that enhances my enjoyment in these tournaments,

especially at a place like Tori, is camera angles. And I feel like they totally have rethought. Yes. The, like they've gone outside of their standard rubric or strategy for towers and camera angles and they've gotten all sorts of new, new angles, new, new looks like. I saw that that Keegan bunker shot on 18 was a perfect example. Just stuff like that. Stuffed down the coastline. It's just, it's, it just looks like they give a

fuck. Yeah, that's, that's well said. Randy, anything to add on that? No, not much to add. I agree with what you guys are saying. I the biggest question mark for me will be this the walk and talk feature. I mean, I think it was excellent. I also want to just underscore it was like one player during one round of the tournament. That he won. That he won. So that was great. But, you know, I watched a college basketball game a couple of months ago where they had both coaches miked up for the entire game and you went into half time. And, you know, it's like, the fact that we're celebrating that they were able to talk to Max for like one walk down,

or like one hole is like, it's great because it's progress. But it's like, God, like, let's accelerate. They lowered our standards so much. Yes. Exactly. It's like golf is still five years behind, like everything. And you know what I go back to rainy? When did sounds of the game start with the NFL, like, miking up a bunch of players and like releasing a video into the next week of highlights of sounds of the game. Like it's, it's like much, must watch stuff. It's always entertaining, interesting. What is wrong with doing something like that? I truly don't, I mean, wearing a microphone as a slight inconvenience and you can put it on the caddy or whatever, but like, put it on a bunch of guys and just take the team

to kind of go through all that stuff and turn around. It's not easy, but that's super additive media that the tour of the way they think of it is, how do we sell that? How do we sell that? How do we sell that? And they don't just create stuff that just keeps fans engaged. They've come a long way on this stuff,

and they're improving, but that's one that I just look at. I'm like, dude, imagine thinking, you're not even thinking, that's not even innovative. Like it's being done in other sports. And that's like the, that's where I agree, Randy, I'm excited that there is a trend on this, but also just like not giving them a pass on being way late to the game on this.

Make it good and then figure out how to monetize it. Sure. That's the other way around. I think two things that, two challenges I want to issue. I think the, the onus is on NBC, golf channel to kind of stuff their game up a little bit as we get back into the Florida swing here next month. I think the other thing is, I think it's time for Ian Baker-Finch

to shoot or get off the pot. Like he's kind of, and he seems like, while it counts as like the nicest guy in the world and doesn't have a bad word to say about anybody. And I think that's kind of part of the problem is I just never really pick up anything even remotely interesting or engaging from him on the CBS broadcast. I'm curious to see how Trevor you know goes on, right? Like I said, Noble O elevated this past week. I'm one or no for

over the course of the year. Trevor helps kind of move that along because I thought he had an excellent debut. So, um, should we move over across the pond? A lot to talk about over there without even folks that we don't know the result of the tournament as of now. This feels like forever ago. I don't even know how much time we was spent on this at this point. But Patrick Reed goes up to Roy McElroy on the range and Dubai shakes Harry's hand as Cady Roy is down like messing with this track man. Tries to shake his hand. Roy very much hits him with a, I'm good here. Reed walks

away laughing and flicks a four ace is T Adam. Amish marketing. Yeah. Roy later explained I was subpoenaed by his lawyer on Christmas Eve. So of course, trying to have a nice time with my family and someone shows up on your doorsteps and delivers that. You're not going to take it well. So again, I'm living in reality. I don't know where he's living. If I was in his shoes, I wouldn't expect a hello or a handshake. You can't pretend nothing's happening here. Right. We're living in reality here. If the roles were reversed in macaroid thrown at T, he said, I'd be expecting a lawsuit. So, and then let's just play the audio now.

The question that was asked Rory, which he made, the reply was described as incredulous response in credulous face. Just play this audio right now of this amazing question. Sort of take this subject with Patrick on the range, just a bit further, but Patrick reached out to you. He shook hands with Harry wishing it would happen in a new year. He put his hand out to wish you would happen in a new year. And in a goldous sort of prime,

we'd try men bridges. And there was no teeth hurry. He just turned his back, he had a tea in his pocket, and he just threw it down and discussed. There's probably anyone would do when you approach someone you don't get an answer, but you know, can you see or saw maybe one day many of those bridges were patching? Not at the moment, David. He said he was trying to make an effort. Okay, next question. Anne, behind, sorry, just behind Benny. So this of course led to a lady J got in my ass because I left a couple words out of my tweet and I did not include.

I did not include that. It was Reid's lawyer that subpoenaed him and not read himself. Of course, I'm not a lawyer and of course, not a thing I said. This is not an admission of guilt, of course, allegedly, all the disclaimers in here, but she said to me, you are posting inaccurate and false statements. Roy McAroy was never subpoena by Patrick Reed. He had nothing to do with the case. McAroy was subpoenaed for such a farce. I believe farce was spelled wrong in there, but again, that's alleged.

So I was, I just replied very nice. It was like, you're right. I was wrong here. I miss, phrase this like lot of lawsuits flying around here. Can you just here. I miss phrase this like, a lot of lawsuits flying around here. Can you just describe them for me? She said, two defamation lawsuits. It's really not hard to get your facts straight unless you're deliberately trying to mislead the public. Neither one of Patrick Reed's cases are against the PGA tour and have nothing to do with Roy McElroy. So I just wanted to get that out there to make sure we are all cleared legally.

Listen, Sally, I think I might stand with with the lady here. Words matter. Yeah, I think I might be with the lady J2. I read is definitely 100% interest in all this because Larry Klaiman was definitely going around and just suing people left and right and issuing subpoenas left and right but well before read got involved with him and tried to sue the golf world for, you know, the GDP of Moldova. That was definitely definitely a thing here. So yeah, it's, it's a hundred, a hundred percent innocent here. Rory's definitely taking it that way. I think everyone in really in the golf world that, you know, as, as received subpoenas is definitely taking it that way as well. So thank you for T.C. for sticking up for for Lady J in this, in this situation. Lady J also had some great, great, back

and force with Lady J this week as well. She said she, she calls it like she sees it. And, and, and I apologize. I know you can ask for a T C. I apologize for, you know, if I had an effect on your guys' relationship, which I know has been really strong over the years. Um, which do we want to do the read video now? Is that a, there's a lot of freaking drama from this tournament this week with Drone City USA in the Monday finish, but... Drone, stretch city UAE. Sorry, I'm sorry.

Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, can you guys, so I, you know, I'm waking up a little later over here on the mountain, mountain time zone. What's up with this ball in the tree situation? Can you catch me up like, I'm, you know, because I really haven't seen or read anything with it. I cannot express enough how alleged this is, Randy, and as you know, the film from the Bahamas, right, was doctored, right? That has been documented. So that's been proven. I'm just going off the video that was aired on the DP World Tour live feed, which could have been manipulated here. I just, again, got to address all that up front.

Reed hits a t-shot that they can't find it. And he gets up there and I want to make sure I get this order. This is the statement that the DP World Tour issued. During round three of the hero, Dubai Desert Classic, classic two on course referees and several marshals, marshals identified that Patrick Readsball had become lodged in a specific tree following his t-shirt on 17. The DP World Tour Chief referee joined the player in the area and asked him to identify his distinctive all markings. Using binoculars, the chief referee was satisfied that a ball with those markings was lodged in the tree. The player subsequently took an unplayable penalty drop at that point directly below the ball

on the ground to clarify the player was not asked to specify the tree, but to identify his distinctive ball markings to confirm it was his ball. So there is video here where Patrick reads as that is definitely my ball as he's looking in binoculars and they show a replay of the ball going into a totally different tree. So again, he is definitely identifying that that is my golf ball with a black line on it. Either there is a identical ball in the extended part of the DB World Tour statement, also includes a caveat that there could be an identical ball identifying mark, identical identifying mark in the other tree,

but they cut, they, they marry this clip and this clip is amazing of just like, you know, no, it's, I goes into this other tree that's behind him while he is definitively saying that's my ball. So what happens here, the difference is he can take a drop right under that tree and take it on playable and not have to go back to the tee

and re tee where Roy McElroy was standing on that tee box, by the way. So he was looking up at a ball that was not his allegedly alleged alleged alleged and saying it was definitively his and yeah have have that that you will not a lot of people talking about this and I was wondering why and I'm guessing it's because most of the golf world is being, is inactive lawsuits against Mr. Reed. That's so sick. God, that's sick. And then, and then he said, the rules official was there to reconfirm and check

to make sure it was mine as well, which the, I don't think that's what's up for. Yeah, allegedly, but that could have been Dr. too. He's out, yeah, it's it. He said, you can see that because I can't see that, but that's fine with me. So he said, and then James Colgan from golf.com has done some some sleuthing here. Hmm. Picture of the tree that held that allegedly held reads ball as shown on golf channels broadcast,

not clear if this is exactly where read spotters ball, but as you can see, there's at least six golf balls by my account lodged in that same palm. Somebody's got to climb the tree. I mean, it's very much a, I mean, there's some alleged story. I want to even say the name about a certain somebody that, that won a major championship that somebody went out and found a golf ball with similar markings on it that allegedly that player had found. If they can go up there and find the golf ball, that morning, David, somebody can go up and find that golf ball in the wrong tree.

Then I wonder what what happens there. We need to fuel up a G650 and fly, growl, or immediately to the Middle East. Haven't climbed that tree. It's just amazing that we're here yet again with reach. But of course, we are. There's just such a tendency to find these edge cases of, of it's it's remarkable.

And the rule step always apologizing for it. It's amazing. It's a whole thing again where the ball embedded on 18 like we know it didn't embed. We know it by the video. And he says that it was now we know it's in a different tree. And he says it's in the other way. Like we know it by the video. And yet somehow he's getting away with it.

I don't I don't know. Like we know it by the video. And yet somehow he's getting away with it. I don't, I don't know. I don't know how it works. All right. So the rib leads by three going to the final round. You think he wins? I'd say so. I got 65 today. Clean card until until he got to 18 hits in the water on 18.

Still shoot 65. And he's got Calum Shinkman and a gentleman named Dan Bradberry chasing him at minus 12 which means T.C. is going to call it a big dick when a few wins of course. You got Blandy, Adry Arnaus, Poults, Hidalgo, Sean Norris, P and Big Dick, Vic Perez, Norris P and big dick Vic Perez four back at minus 11. So what if what if P catches them? Yeah, awesome. I'll be waking up.

There was all sorts of stuff. People, oh my god, they're paired together. They're paired together. They weren't paired together. Astrosks folks killing me. I woke up on what was that Thursday to news of of Ludwig. Aberg's 65. Unfortunately, he's fallen back a bit since then. He had to sleep on a lead. It had to kind of,

all sorts of fits and starts with this weather situation there. But great to see Ludwig. And then Stanford, Jr. Michael Thorbejohnson, currently T19. He had a third round 73, but it was tied for the lead at the halfway point. They're common man. He is common. He is the youngsters are common. Yeah. Yeah. Only the other thing I had was Ben Silverman one down in the second Bahamas event down in or on the corn fairy tour after Monday qualifying. Like a cool, cool thing there. I just wanted to shout that out. Wanted to play off. And our young hitter, Kamrily made his corn fairy debut.

Fantastic. He did not make the cut. A struggle a little bit round one, but got his first start, which is great. Happy for him. Another totally normal news. This is expected for startups. More live execs are fleeing the nest. Majid Al-Sarora, the head of the Saudi Gulf Federation, was earlier this week removed as lives managing director, a role that was just below CEO and commissioner Greg Norman.

Then two other live executives, chief marketing officer Kerry Taylor and chief communications officer Jonathan Grella, also set to leave the company, according to people familiar with the situation. This is according to the Wall Street Journal. Norman Stamon is our biggest task going forward as commercial. It's selling tickets. It's the normal sports aspects of a league as opposed to an exciting launch.

I know some of our critics like to make more of a personnel, make more of a personnel change than meets the eye. So nothing very very soon. It didn't it didn't make those considerations as they were, you know, hiring these people from the start there. Yeah. That's well, but that's that's the truth of the matter. So Greg Norman will be assuming a somehow a larger role within live.

Again, this is according to sports illustrated amid suggestions that he should be removed from his position. Greg Norman's role as CEO and commissioner to Liv golf league is actually being strengthened, meaning more autonomy and running the second year circuit that announced its 2023 schedule and will begin play next month. Again, this is also referencing sports illustrator and the module Al Soror. The managing director leaves that role as one of seven members of the Live Golf Board of Directors. Al Soror is also CEO of the Saudi Golf Federation. His role with Live Golf not being filled, meaning more power for

Norman, whose leadership has been questioned by PGA Touristars Tiger Woods and Roy McElroy. So just so we bring this full full circle PGA Tour players are asked, like, what will it take for you guys to like reach an agreement with Liv, like come to the table? And they made a very simple thing of saying Greg Norman needed him to go. And then we can talk and they have doubled down

and given him more power. So the accusations of the pettiness coming from the PGA tour side will continue to be laughed at for me because they are just seriously trolling them in every way possible and pretending like they want to play nice and they definitely don't. It seems like a, kind of a sinker swim, Greg thing from the Saudis. It's an old, like, they're moving all in.

Hey, man. Yeah, like you need to, you need to either fix this and make it happen or like we're going to stop being embarrassed here. It feels like I've heard rumblings of the chief events officer Ron Cross potentially being moving on as well. Not for the tracker accounts that's a rumbling. Yeah.

The tracker accounts were proven wrong a few times this week. It was great to see no beef. We're not gonna get to that. Guys, I thought the schedule stuff, their schedule that they released like was a fucking disaster, like massive, massive disaster, massive black eye. I'm going to push back on that TC, these lower tier PGA tour events that everyone obviously loves on the PGA tour now becoming the headliners for live golf is. That's a great thing for them, I think.

I think it's, I see no flaws in this. I I'm gonna need you to come with some more evidence here. Yeah, yeah. So I just think like you are what your schedule is, right? You are your schedule as a tour. And let's just read down. We've got February. We've got the El Camaleon, the the myocoba event, two events in March, gallery out in Tucson and Orange County National, of course, the Cricut Cat course, which is which is previously hosted PGA toward Q school, the Vonted Cricut Cat course. April brings us to the Greenwich in Adelaide, which by all accounts is actually a good one. Centosa in Singapore, then we're onward to May. We have Broken Arrow, slash Tulsa, Oklahoma at Cedar Ridge, and Trump National in Washington, DC.

June, July, we've got Valderama and Centurion Club. We go August, we go to the old white course at Jim Justice's Greenbrier in West Virginia, then onward to Trump National Bedminster, and then September, we have one event, Rich Harvest Farms, October, we have one event, Trump National Dural, and then they've moved the finale to Royal Greens, golf and Clunchy Club

in Gorgeous King Abdullah Economic City. Which they list as Jeddah, which is bullshit. It's so much disrespect to King Abdullah Economic City. So now, so like it was supposed to be this big, condensed schedule that these guys were going to get a bunch of time off and everything going from they start in February and they go to November, right? Which that kind of seems to defeat some of the purpose of like, hey, I don't want to play

golf year round kind of thing. And then schedule wise, like from Orlando, they go Orlando, the guys that are playing Augusta, like play Augusta the following week, and they have a week off, then they go to Australia and Singapore, then they have a week off, and they go Tulsa PGA DC. That doesn't seem like a recipe for success for the guys trying to win a major. It's all part of the plan, TC. Come on, they've been playing this for a long time, and and you know, these are great Norman also sent a hilarious email to players.

They was said, you know, as live gets ready to begin our first full season of tournament play, I want to be once you'd be aware of several changes I am making to our team and our approach to the business of golf. Like all the changes are coming from Norman and not, you know, people fleeing and quitting. So that's important to note. It's very much your files are exactly where they left them. You alert that you'll sometimes get on your computer and be like, well, wait a second here.

Can I ask some questions about what happened if you're behind the scenes? But yeah, it's... When's the ruling coming down from the, from the, for the DP World Tour? Sometime in February. That's sometime in February, I believe, which I think there's kind of a whole big wait and see from both sides

on on that as to what the downstream effect of that's going to be but sure we'll have a lot of people saying that's a it's great schedule and it's just an incredible product and there's many great things coming but I just I don't I don't see what there is to be excited about as they had to year two. A lot of rumors flying around of the of the alternate persuasion, not we're getting this guy. It's like, uh, oh, something is really not right here. Yeah. There's a car like the only rumor I heard Sebastian Munoz and Mido, you know, Mido keeps floating around out there, but otherwise haven't heard

did Lee poo. Otherwise, so is our guy James Han signed up? Yeah. Which we just do that segment. Sure. It is now a segment that we are, of course, calling this week in James Han tweets. We should get a sponsor for this segment. He said we are in a dark place where golf media can mock a player regarding an event without limits, only to have video evidence come out and prove nothing really happened, but thinks it's okay because it's a live player. Congrats, golf media. You are now the CNN of golf opinionated divisive.

I think he's talking about the read T throwing incident, right, which was pretty much exactly as it was described. I don't know what golf media he's referring to here, of course, but yeah, it's another this week in James Han tweets. Again, we're highlighting this because this is who was in charge of policymaking at the PGA tour. This is the level of of leadership that they had and that what the top players were fighting as far as the middle tier of players in the intelligence level of that of that And understand where their value is coming from just read this Twitter. I somebody's gonna tell him to delete a Twitter And I hope he never does because it's incredible I just don't understand like what is golf media like golf media

seemingly evaporated like a decade ago with budget cuts and all sorts of stuff and like I feel like the people that were making a massive, massive deal out of the Patrick Reed thing or like the aggregators and clickbaiters and. Yeah, it was kind of a big deal. Like golf didn't get it showed like showdowns like that where somebody refuses to shake somebody's hand and I mean, they get it, you know, like try to harm him by throwing a T Adam, but like there's some beef there. There's very clearly some beef there.

Golf loves its beef stories. There's something there. This is not something that the media is driving a divide in. Like these two people do not like each other. James and, and my guy, Luke Helvey, please don't delete your accounts. Just keep the content. Keep it going. You know what the, who the biggest loser out of all this James Han stuff is to me is the University of California.

Yeah, this guy is aggressively, I think, just not. I don't want to call him. I don't want to be mean to him, but like aggressive point, misser. That's what I would. Yeah. Yeah. I think about this a lot in what I read, especially on Twitter, is you can argue for anything. You can totally make a super disingenuous argument for anything.

That's every time I read something that he says, it feels exactly that. You technically could make that argument. If you were trying to really slant something in the total opposite direction and be a total contrarian, you can do anything. That's how I read every single thing that he says. How many years and years and years and years and years and years and years and years did golf media just treat players with like, oh my God, class acts. These are good guys. Let's just highlight all the goods. Like golf golfers have not gotten critical media like golf

media coverage, maybe ever. You know, how was how would James Han last in like a major media market? Like, I don't know, New York City or Philadelphia plan for the Yankees or the Phillies or right? Like, what's he talking about? Opinionated. They're divisive now. It just doesn't make any sense on any level. I think the most valuable money that live could spend would be paying James Han and Luke LV not to talk about. They've got the budget for it. I'm pretty sure that's yeah, that they need to get more strategic on how they're spreading it around. And let me just say too on that schedule, that live schedule. I've been, I listen, I didn't watch any of the YouTube, frankly, not interested. And now I see this schedule. And will I be downloading the CW app? No, I won't. It feels like you don't

even have peak on it. Well, it feels like where live is now is is a big step backwards from where we thought they would be and where we were talking about them, like around, I don't know, July, British Open last year. It, it, this isn't enticing at all. And I, I just reflect on watching the farmers this weekend. I had a lot of fun. It was a great tournament. A lot of like names that interest me and I care about. And all these live guys are so completely forgotten in my mind.

I, it's, I think that's a massive problem for them. Yeah. I think the YouTube thing was kind of a convenient thing to make fun of them on. I think that was also probably a valuable differentiator. It was accessible. It was easy. Yeah. Access it wherever, whenever, for free. Also, just from the finale standpoint, the one event that they had last year that had a little bit of juice to it seemed like it was the derailleur event. Like the finale, there was something on the line, and they're going to move that to like

the middle of the night in Saudi Arabia. And the other event that had juice was Boston, and that at the vents no longer on the calendar anymore. But it's very much in the, like we've said all along, like this recruitment year is going to be different than the rest of the years, right? Yeah, we'll give it away for free on YouTube with no commercials because we have no other option right now. We're trying to make this thing look as appealing as possible. And we're going to show everyone having all this fun and all this stuff. Now things are turning. Now things are, no, no, no, we need you, we need you here. I've heard some

stories, some very credible stories of guys that are trying, have tried to leave for family events on, you know, before, during tournament week, before the events kick off. And they're like, no, no, you will, you'll be staying here. You'll be, you'll be staying here and playing. And now it's, yeah, we like to finish here at this call for us. No, no, it's going to be in Saudi Arabia, like the big finale is going to be in Saudi Arabia.

And those are your bosses. So that'll be where you'll be doing things. That, what makes me laugh the most about all that, Randy, especially as your boyfriend, making such a big deal out of being an independent contractor and having your media rights and all of that, and being totally controlled by someone else now, like the irony of that is not lost on me. There's been a great sum of money and exchange for that, but that irony is not lost on me. And he's still tweeting about PGA to address code. I also have a, if I may,

if I may, I have somebody to add to the Luke LV James Han. Paul, please, please. I think we got to include my guy, Hank, Haney. Oh, yeah. He's kind of been has some of the worst dumbest takes and tweets around live and everything. Yeah, I'm sorry. I know you're a big, Haney guy. Um, this stuff. I hate doing that to my, I hate doing that to my voodoo cream supplier, but I got to do it. Um, anything else before we get some housekeeping TC? I don't think I mean, I saw the pro member stuff.

Yeah, there's no pro member. There will be no live players at. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's old news. I talked to my guy, Jimmy, about that blade back in December. Yeah, I mean, that's common sense, too, right? Yeah. Yeah. Of course. I mean, let's say you got like Ed Hurley. He's a member at Seminole. He's like on the board. By the way, was Phil ever a policy board member? He was on the pack. He was never a policy board member. I believe. And then yeah, Faldo was kind of spouting off on with Sky Sports news, Jamie Weir, just saying live players should be banned from the Ryder Cup. They're done. It's a rival tour. You know, they've moved on, fine off you go. Off you go. That's about it, I think, for the week. What you want to take us through

some housekeeping items before we wrap? Yeah, just we had film room, the Bay course, the Kappa Lou, a B.A. You call us TC. Oh my gosh. I'm sorry, Pooch. I'm sorry. I can't, I can't do it, man. And then we got Cavendish this week, a very provocative little course over on La Naye. Is that how you pronounce it? La Naye. And then we got Trap Jock coming up, Trap Jock NFL episode, KVV push, hoppin' on. See what happens with the beloved Niners, as well as Joe Shistie and the Bengals. And then we got a big, big personnel announcement

on deck, potentially. The our events schedule, the on the lookout for that, as well as maybe some special stuff from Pebble. As well. So, should we just go ahead and get that out in the open? Sure. I'm gonna be playing the Pebble Beach Pro in this week. I am still confused as to why or how this all came to be.

What? As a amateur. As a celebrity. As a competitor. As a competitor. It's a new, it's a new, it's a new division. The Dick right. I'm not in the celebrity division.

Thank you for asking, Radia. I believe I'm in the amateur division. I really don't know how it works. It's all kind of quite a mystery to me. It was a bit of a late 12 to 6 curve ball thrown in the early winter schedule here, but I'm heading out to Monterey on Monday. Gonna be playing some golf out there

and yeah, playing in the pro-amp. I'm extremely excited about it. It's gonna be true once in a lifetime experience. We're not really able to organize much on the video content front in that short time period, and it's kind of a difficult thing to do with the tour anyways, so just kind of be... Won't be a lot of content coming from it this week, other than I'm sure I'll have plenty of stories to share.

On next week's pot, because it is a true bucket list experience, and I'm very excited about it. When do you find out who you're playing with? I think Tuesday, I think Tuesday's the day that we find out. So you got to be so fucking sick if they paired you with James Han. What would especially be sick is CBS has to have like seven years of, of angst, like saved up. And there's some cameras out there.

Like they should just pick my worst shot and be like, that's the one that they're going to put on the air and just absolutely go nuts. Roast the hell out of me. I don't care. I deserve that. You deserve one clead shot at me, if you will. So I don't know how that's going to work out, but very excited about that. So say hi to my guy Chris Burman, all my money manager, hitters are out there.

Yeah. Jay P. McManus, Hermadezion. Yeah. Exactly. I think I think Paul Gassal's in the field this year. Yeah. Paul Gassal. I got to think Condi will be there.

Maybe check in on how the Broncos coaching search is going for me. Yeah. Why you can do. Roger. You can do a wellness check on Bill Murray for me. I can do that. You're boy, Bill Murray. Steve Young, a fan of a beer, of Bill Murray for me. I can do that. You're boy, Bill Murray. Steve Young, a fan's a rebe air, of course.

Jake Owen, it's, yeah, it's all very exciting. I'm sure there'll be some fun that will come of this. Brandy's guy Brett Baer. And a lot of people are asking who's going to be on the pod this week. There is going to be an episode of August to plan, but I don't believe this person is in the field this week. So the bump might just get delayed until next week, if you will, but we will get that figured out for you. So anything else, boys? This was a blast. Another joyous win

for our boy and excited to watch some football today. Amen. day. Thanks, I'm off to our next travel side. We'll see you back here next week. Cheers. Be the right club today. Yes. That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Better than most.