No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 640: Pebble Beach Update + Soly's Pro-Am Recap

Episode Date: February 6, 2023

While the professional half of the Pebble Beach Pro-Am will be decided on Monday, we have more than enough to discuss on this Sunday night as Soly, Tron and DJ are joined by the newest member of the NLU team, Kevin Van Valkenburg.  We get a thorough first-hand report from Soly who participated in the pro-am, preview the Monday finish at Pebble and check in on the insane finish on the DP World Tour - plus the text message statement from P, Bubba's comments on team golf, some LIV rumors, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No-Lang, a podcast, Sully here calling in from a hotel in Monterey. TC is here. Good afternoon TC. How are you?

I'm great. Callin' in from my garage. DJ, Pai is here. Hello, Mr. Pai Man. Hey, Sully. Good to be with you. Can't wait to hear about your week. Thanks for having me on your show. And a new addition to the team, a not a new addition to the No Langa podcast. You've heard this voice

enough times that you may have wondered if he was a part of this podcast. But now officially a team member of No Langa up, Mr. Kevin Van Volkkenberg. KVV, what does it like to be here for your first time as an official employee? Good morning, No Laying Up. Uh, it is, it's fabulous to finally be getting paid to be on this podcast. Uh, you know, really, uh, my wife was like, at some point are they going to pay you? I was like, who knows? You know, it's just one long rolling seven year audition. So who should start to ask those questions right now too? Yeah. You notice like in these journalism streets, KVV, you know,

I just keep doing some work. For tagging on Instagram. Just tag me on the gram. The exposure is huge. Exactly. You put this on your resume. No, but like sincerely, thank you to all the people who were like excited about this, that me doing this and kind of accepted me as a sort of pseudo member of the band for many years. And actually, I woke up at like five in the morning when we were about to Nonson. I was like, Oh, what if no one cares about this? What if it gets like 10 retweets? And then it was like a fire hose

of Twitter mentions for the entire day. So thank you. We'll reflect on this. All a little later as we get towards the end of the show. We got a lot to cover here. First of all, foot joy was the number one shoe at the AT&T Pebble each program. 62% of the players who teed it up were wearing foot joy. The next closest shoe brand 10% is a dominant performance. Nothing new though. Foot joy has been the number one shoe on the PGA tour every single year in 1945 that is 78 consecutive years for thousands of tournament. Millions of miles of best players have walked with foot joy above all others. These players understand that shoes are a critical piece of equipment. So I more than half the field at every tournament. Trust the best whether it's Max Homa. This is in the copy.

I got to read this guys. This is Max Homa, Justin Thomas, Jess Corda, Daniel Kang or even TC, Sally and Neil. I don't know why other people got left off. But this is in the copy. DJ, that's right. Play play better. You know, I get it. I get it. It's kind of like how getty, getty identified you as a fan taking a selfie with Bill Murray today. Let me get to the ad read. We got to get the content. Yeah. Come on. Players everywhere, trust their game to the overwhelming number one shoe in golf, foot joy. We are a court question for you. Is that just, is that just the pros? Or is that amateur's as well? I believe I took it from 61 to 62%. This past week is what I believe it went.

Did you have to do a Darryl survey? Darryl survey absolutely looked in my bag and picked up my golf ball in the putting green to see what golf ball I was playing. Those are the hardest working people in golf. I'm dead, dead serious. Just to see he picked it up. He's like, okay, 23 pro v one got it. Okay. And moved on. I'm dead serious. I'm dead serious. They were doing a ball count for the amateurs. So I don't know if we get a full report on that one. But that guy could have messed with you so much. If he would just said, Oh, you're not playing the act, huh? I just think that's all right. Hey, hey, this one's, this one's actually not approved yet.

USJ conforming. For the record, we are recording this on Sunday night. There is a champion has not been crowned yet for the Pebble Beach program. A lot of complications that come of the Monday finish, including some of our own travel schedules. And we were just planning to do this podcast thing. We got a lot to talk about anyways. There may be a supplemental pod.

If there's a crazy finish tomorrow, but we can reflect on 95% of the tournament that has been played to this point and get to a lot of other topics. Which, Deesh, now I'll give you the floor. If you would like to just what gave you the biggest tickle, maybe I've ever seen you get was was what happened today on Getty.

You know what it is is sometimes, you know, sometimes there's a moment where you can kind of see the whole chess board ahead of you, right? And you're like, you know, we're obviously we got KVV jumping on the squad now. So all of a sudden we're like, oh, we need to figure out what we're doing with images. So we signed up for a getty subscription.

So I'm on getty today. I was like, oh, what if there's any photos of Sally search Chris Solomon golf? Of course, there's nothing. So then I was like, oh my gosh, I know what's gonna happen that I search Bill Murray. And there he is. And I'm like, they're not good.

I they're gonna identify him as a fan. And that's exactly what it was. And not only, it would have been another thing if it was like Bill Murray shares a joke with a fan off screen, but it's like, it's you taking a selfie with Bill Murray and it says Bill Murray takes a photo with a fan during the Pebble Beach National Pro Am.

Of course, for those that weren't following along, Bill Murray was your partner or not your partner. But in your group this week, of course, he's DA points his partner, we can get to that later, but just really good stuff, man. And so, I know it was a big week for you. I'm sure it was just dopamine hit after dopamine hit. And that was a good one to take you back to Earth on reentry.

So you didn't get the bends coming back into the podcast here We could I what's funny is I played it as cool as possible for the entire week was definitely not like you know Follow and bill around everywhere and we get to 17 team We're just like waiting forever to start to this morning There's not that many people around everyone starts taking pictures because there's a rainbow back there And I was just realized I don't have any pictures with Bill yet. I was like, I got to get one. And I finally had he had warmed up to me by that point. And I was like, I got to get one. And sure enough, like that's the one the getty guy gets and you just proceeded to just the

getty guy just lob the alley. But you win billed through the legs on me. It was perfect. I promise we'll get to the tournament eventually. But we tell the story of who he rose is winning. We don't need. I think that's right. Do we tell the story from a whoopy would bill laughed out loud at your face? And did you guys revisit that at all this week? I was kind of hoping he forgot about that. So we did not revisit that.

I was kind of like, yeah, we might, I think we met at a whoopee. I don't know if you remember, but he at least pretended like he remembered. So we didn't get the previous dunking was not revisited. Okay. Probably still at PTSD from when I beat his ass. So you're going to have to get you on the perfect club to talk about your five favorite build Murray movies, you know, bring in for the Rushmore pod. Like I'm not the big, I'm not the biggest cinephile and I'm not the biggest like

built Murray guy. So I don't have the full perspective on his whole career, which now, you know, after playing with him, it's kind of like, oh, I kind of got to go back and watch his movies. And I probably would have, maybe I would have been pretty good. I would have been a little more nervous to do that than I was, which, you see, what do you think the odds were that you and I would both like golf with Bill Murray within a two month span of each other and two totally different separate parts of the country. Yeah, both, both like two top, you know, 50 golf courses in the world, just kind of surreal, right? Surreal is the is the word I would use to describe a lot of this past week. And I truly don't really know where to start. Let's, let's dive into it. So, I mean,

of course, solid playing as an, as an amateur, not a celebrity. I'd love to visit that question. He was in a big fight. I thought he was in the big fighter flight at the Pebbleby AT&T Pebbleby national program. I don't know. So I mean, what like Kevin,

you want to start? Yeah. I mean, I feel like as a big J journalist, you know, I haven't given up that title. I figured we'd go a little frost Nixon style, so I'll and, and grill you a little bit. Well, let's just start out with what were your motions about getting tapped for this?

My emotions were, um, it's not a little bit of confusion as to why it was a very kind of late invite. The, when I got an invite, it said RSVP by December 15th. And it was like already like January like 10th so I don't know how I was supposed to do that. I don't know if it was because of the horrific weather that hit the west coast this earlier this year if people bailed or whatever it was but kind of got a last minute tap to go play in it. It was always something I like the Gary Mule deer spot. Always something I wanted to do It never really like imagined that I would ever get

that opportunity. And I was just a little anxious, a little nervous, a little bit of like, I don't really still really know what I'm doing here. I definitely, I definitely didn't want to be in the celebrity division because no one there knew who I was. It was amazing playing with Bill Murray and in front of a lot of people.

And like, no one paying any attention to what I was doing. It was awesome. It was not nerve-wracking at all in that way. But, yeah, like legitimately extremely, extremely, extremely excited to go do it. And I got to say it lived up to the hype would kind of be under-selling it, I think, because watch this tournament for a long time. I have, you know, long been an admirer of Pebble Beach and I've only played it once, like 12

years ago, and to get to tee it up in a actual PGA Tour event with, like, fans out there and leaderboards and painted cups and, like, literally playing in this, this competing into PGA Tour event was, it felt like I was in, like, an AT&T commercial. Like, that's what, like, the fake shoots out there, like, you're not actually competing in the event, but you're, like, in the, the, with the actual fans out there, it felt like I was playing in a commercial. So I was very, very, very excited. Were you worried that,

I think all that would have been going through my head would have been like screwing up the PJ tour competition. And like somehow like whatever, leaving a footprint and a bunker or, you know, just accidentally hitting the wrong ball or something like that. Dad, Dad, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, really. My dad was on the bag for me this past week.

We had a conversation about, you know, distance measuring devices. You can't say out loud what the numbers are. The pros can't find out what any of that is. He did a great job with that. He asked the caddy for directions on how to rake a bunker and you did a great job with those. It was, I was amazed to how quickly though it didn't feel like a PGA tournament in terms of, you know, I,

Chris Stroud was my playing partner. D.A. points was the other pro in the group. They were legitimate, like a 10 out of 10 in terms of hosting the group and did not make you feel in any way, like you were in their way. And like I was putting, I had like a six or seven foot par put on the first hole and my playing partner was already in for five and D8 turns to me. He's like, don't worry about picking up. Like these rounds are going to take forever.

Like play your golf ball. Like we're here to have fun. And that was like super helpful. That was a great thing to hear on the first hole to think like, all right, I'm not going to be in people's way. I'm not, you know, an asshole for putting an eight foot par put that doesn't mean anything. And so I honestly, I got really comfortable in it way faster

than I would have thought, but it was, that was due to who we were paired with and how like supportive and helpful those guys were. They've both played the event so many times and they know exactly what it's about. So, how do you end up with Stroud? Does he, is there a draft? Do you just like draw it all of a sudden? You get open and envelope? What's the deal? I don't know exactly. I know that he has played with Bill and D.A. before in this event, and I think I was kind of the plug into that more than I was necessarily paired with Stroud or maybe

you know the organizers knew how good of a host he would be. But I'm serious man. He was really struggling with back issues. Like he, I was surprised he did not withdraw on day one. He had a really tough front nine. He's been struggling for the last couple of years with back injuries. And like, dude, he'd like make a bogey and then he'd like come over and bend down and read my putts like every single time. Like incredibly specific, super helpful, every single putt. He kind of figured out very quickly that I might be a very bad green reader,

which is kind of lost in the eye opening for me. And he just helped look at everything. We're finally saying that out loud. JT's pounding his steering wheel right out of his pocket. Yeah. He's gonna have to pull over and text right out. This is his podcast. He's going to have to pull over and text right now. I'm like, listen, I'm taking my pledge, but I got a text about this right now. That again helps so much because like, even if you have like a good caddy point you in a line, it's not the same as people, again, similar to playing with JT

in speed, the speed at which they were able to process the information and what the up and downhill was because it can play tricks on you out there. It's a ton of elevation change and a lot of things that your eyes fix on you. Come take a lap and you're going to see that it's actually downhill, it looks uphill, blah, blah, blah. All that just kind of really, really put me in a comfort zone. And yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, the excitement in my voices owed a lot to how great of a playing partner Chris Stroud was. Sweet. It's all if I told the 17 year old version of you that you were going to get to play in the public beach program with Bill Murray.

How many PGA tour events would you assume you had won at that point? Well, considering I didn't have any college offers at 17, I think I probably would have, I don't know, I don't know what situation I would have possibly led to to this happening, but a lot of questions. Is that job supposed to out as well? A lot of questions about thought you hated Bill Murray. You guys are always ragging on him. Blah, blah, blah.

I'm going to repeat what DJ Pai has said. I believe many times over the years on this podcast, which is that the in person experience at this tournament, correct me if I'm wrong, DJ, you've said this that in person, it's a totally different vibe than what you see on television and what we see like in social media, right? And I have long thought that Bill's act is repetitive and tired, and I can confirm that it is very repetitive. And now having played with him for 54 holes, I understand exactly why, because people from all over this community line up along the ropes and are there to see Bill Murray and they are there to see him

do something very silly. They're there to see him throw his club. He walks up to all of them, takes photos with all of them, shakes their hands. I asked him about like, Hey, which one of your the these courses is like your favorite? He's like, well, the people at spy are like, you know, blah, blah, blah, but you know, the people at Pebble are like his immediate response was about the people. Like he goes and walks outside the ropes in between shots and he goes up to people's house. People be hanging on their back yards. He'll just go up there and talk to him and socialize and you know, he knows a lot of those people after having played in it for so many years. And so that's where it's also like, all right, man, maybe this thing wasn't just for me.

Like, you know, the same video clips get posted every year and I don't think it's funny when I watch it online. But like, after seeing it, like watching people light up in person and watching people look directly through me, like not even notice me walking in between holes just to see him was like, ah, okay, like maybe that's why this thing is the way that it is.

And I, yes, your parents, no, your parents yelled for me. They were very nice. They, I went and talked to them. So, and like he was awesome with me, super nice with me, like very normal. Once you got inside the ropes and talking to him. And so listen, it was, it was a great thrill to play with him, honestly. And I think so, so Neil called him the most overrated goalkeeper. Oh, wow. honestly. And I think so so Neil called him the most overrated golf. Wow.

During during some of our COVID ranking podcasts or whatever. Yeah. But I think part of it is it was never as much about Bill as it was about the dance for me. You know, kind of thing. Like they never put them in a position to succeed. They never, like they did a disservice to him with a lot of the coverage that they did of this tournament. And I feel like we've turned that around somewhat. We didn't really get a Saturday telecast this year. So it's tough to know. But it's gotten better over the last few years, I think. Like, you know, it was fantastic today, but that's, you know, there were no amateurs on the course. So, um, yeah, I mean, I think a lot of it's just a matter of like, it's not bills fault. It's no 100% not, right? Because it is, it is, like these people lapped it up and

it was extremely innocent stuff of just like, hit a decent drive, throw the club up really cocky. Like that happened on repeat, right? every time people laughed it up, happy groundhog day, Bill. Happy groundhog, like two days after a groundhog day, still yelling it. And I mean, people were there for it, though. And he just like, I can't, I can't hate on it because it was very real. That's what it felt like to me. And he is embraced his roles and entertainer and a man of the people. And I was impressed by that. It's so easy in person to get swept up in all of it, right? And 100%. It's very similar.

Honestly, too, a lot of how I think people feel, not to bend over too far and strain for metaphor, but it's very similar to how people feel about Pebble Beach in general. When all the internet poisoned people, and do they have a point about this, yes. And five does blow. Start to get into the, like, yeah, well,

if it wasn't on the ocean, it wouldn't be any good. You know, if this hole should be so much better, this one should be so much better. Blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like, do go, walk around number six, seven, eight, nine, 10 with like a drink watching golf, and like go ask it all those people if any of them give a fuck about any of your saying.

And what is your dollar whiskey ginger? Yeah, and it's like if you're the and this is again like it's it's good to push the envelope and push for ideals and you know, something stinks you should change it, but at the same time it's like really hard to look at any of the people, you know, at the Pebble Beach Company and be like, Hey, I know your golf course has been sold out for 108 years straight, but like you really should overhaul everything and shut it down and change it. Because like, there's some people over here who just like think it could be way better, you know, and I think this tournament has a lot of the same, you know, has a lot of the same energy to it. Now, is that, you know, will those chickens maybe come home to roost at some point? Possibly. And do we see a shitty field at this event? And does

this event probably have a lot less energy than it did, you know, five, 10, 15, certainly 20, 30, 40 years ago? Definitely. But I guess I'm trying to say that I get why it's hard to change stuff and I get why it's kind of gotten to that point. Doesn't excuse it, but I do understand it from being there. Among many, very weird things I will probably say on this podcast about things that happened this past week, I was actually talking to Alfonso Ribeiro about this. About how he made a really good point of like, dude, there's one like movie star left. And it's Tom Cruise, like one guy

that is the blockbuster sells all the tickets out. And I was like, what do you mean? Like Leonardo Caprio is not a movie star. He's like, I mean, name the last movie he did that made blah, blah, blah amount of money. And I was like, oh, so that's what you mean by it. But like, you don't mean there's no actors left. You just mean movie started, blah, blah.

And it was a, he's like, think about how different celebrity is in 2023 versus like even the 90s when we just didn't have all this access to Instagram and all these things and, and constant updates as to where everyone was. And I just found that I was viewing the tournament through that lens to say like, I don't know, man, it felt like a lot of big names were walking around that player village, right? In terms of celebrity, like Ray Romano came up and interrupted our lunch to talk to Keith Mitchell today.

As I was showing him of my video, my shot on 18 was really rude. And, and like, at no point to, you know, the field is like definitely, definitely weak. But when you're there, it also like doesn't really seem to matter that much. Like, it's just a, it doesn't, and I don't mean this in a bad way. It doesn't feel like a PGA Tor event. It just feels like a huge, massive function that all by the way, we're like, we're giving away nine million as well. But like, most people seem to beat, no, they're there for the, to entertain locally more than

it. Like, I'm trying to grind my balls off for a PGA tour event. Which is not totally make sense. It's not not to turn this into, you know, one of our perfect club podcasts, KVV, but it's like, I think Ray Romano's like the perfect example of think about how different celebrity was when he was syndicated on, you know, TV for four hours a day

with reruns of his show. Like he is just a ubiquitous star in a way that is almost kind of like frozen in time that doesn't really exist anymore, which is where I wasn't there this year, but like I think the only people who are kind of sort of able to fill that role are like the athletes, right? Like Aaron Rogers is a gigantic, gigantic star to everybody there, right? But like it's also a gigantic sandbagger, too. That's true. As we found, he played like way so good in that bullshit thing up in Montana.

And he's like making eagles and birdies and all of a sudden, he's playing off a 10. I have, I believe I understand why, which there's a how this tournament I believe works is if you play in it and you're, you don't make the cut, your handicap freezes, I believe at that number. So he has played in it as a 10 and not made the cut. And I believe your handicap stays the same. And that, this was like my idea on that commissioner for the day pod where I said, if you win the masters, you should be able to play those teams. I wonder if they heard that. Oh, far. Oh, Gary, please. Exactly.

That's like, that's like a recipe for sandbagging disaster. But I don't think it's Aaron's fault is my point. I think I don't know. I really don't know how that, how that part worked, but I don't know how he could feel good about himself winning that because this partner shot over par and they shot like 25 under. I don't know how you feel good about that. But anyways, it also is like extremely not competitive amongst the emitters and everyone is obviously

there to have a very fun time. So thankfully, we have no evidence whatsoever of air and Rogers, like following the spirit, not the letter of the law in various rules and regulations. Also lots of layup jokes here. If I, you know, I'm not used to seeing air and Rogers get so many shots, sure. A lot of that flying around out there. So just did he, did he mention me at all? So I did he bring it up. We didn't talk. You know, we didn't have a chance to cross paths. Yeah. But who did you interact with that was that was like, Holy shit. Um, you know, it wasn't expecting that. You know, who was awesome was Will Arnett. was. He was in the group right in front of us. And we had either like, was somewhat familiar with No Wang up or was unbelievable act.

Oh, shit, now I think about he's an actor. That would make sense. But he pretended really well that he knew and was super nice the whole week. And we had a great time. I spent a lot of time with Ben Rector. That was a huge highlight. We had a lot of friendly wagers and things like that. What about real celebrities? I wasn't shy. I would go up and you're on my phone. I didn't interact with Kondi, nothing with Kondi. I'll ride in the car with a fanz of a beer. That was fun. He is a golf

junkie, dude. Every like he was grinding so hard. Every time I like overheard him, he was talking about like, so I got like 290 in, right? But the wind is down off the like he was super, super into it. Who else? Um, determined. That's, you know, I need a JP McManus, anybody like that? Any Titans of industry. Yeah. I, I, I spoke with John Stanky, the CEO of A.T. Thank you, leg Eddie Q at Apple. I met him and talk with him for a while.

That was fantastic. I played a practice round with Ryan Smith, the owner of the Utah Jazz. I'll send those Qualtrics Ryan. I did. We had a great time. And I mean, it was just like, it was extremely surreal. Gareth Bale walking around like Michael, I talked to Michael Pagno a little bit. He did not see that very interested in talking.

Talked to Jason Bateman for a little while. He was familiar with the No-Lingup pod, which was great. Bateman and Arnette Golf Pod would be, I keep saying it, but if you listen to their smart list podcasts, they talk about golf like 90% of the time. They're obsessed.

He tracked down their agent info to make it happen. So we're we're this a working working vacation for me this past week. But if if you're listening Jason and will join the nest, please love to have you a TV club to show up, love to have you on the message board, whatever. Before we get to your next question, KVD, I got to say, I let my whoop die this week. And I'm actually glad because I was nervous about what it was going to show in terms of what my heart rate got up to a

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Pebble is you're familiar with. What's what's up with spyglass? Tell me and I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, blue. So, uh, believe it or still there, you're familiar. Uh, what, what's, what's up with spyglass? Tell me, uh, and monitoring. So we started it on

spyglass number one. That was our first round. Spyglass is championship golf. It is deep bunkers, greens that repel insanely firm when we played it on Thursday. And we'll get to some set up stuff and we'll get to The disaster that was the delays that happened on Saturday But could not believe with all I'd heard come into this was how much rain the west coast has gotten especially this part of the world We all saw the video of the 14th hole the dunes course at Monterey Peninsula getting basically swept away by the waves that came in The torrential downpours they had but holy crap was it was it firm? And also, like, of course, that's not really designed for firm greens. Like, these dudes are hitting five irons and you can't run it up. The greens are all perched up with deep bunkers.

And you just got to play to like, I saw Harry Higgs's caddy Alex. I was like, how was spies? Like, play the front number all day. You just got to play the front number. And it was frickin hard. Like, I probably played my best round there and that was my highest score. Just because like it was a mistake you made, put you in a horrible spot.

If you were above the hole, you couldn't get it up and down. I had, I almost drove the fourth green there and like I had an impossible chip. Like literally could not get it close and I was not even at a bad point. For the crazy green, like the crazy narrow green, right? The serpentine snake, yeah, the very skinny green,

but I was like barely too far and all the slopes were gonna feed my ball into the left for off no matter what happened. And it was just like, it was a chess match. And watching, when we played it on Thursday, that was the only course that was over par of the three. And it was very clearly why. It was like, not quite my cup of tea.

Like it wasn't, you know, it just didn't, it serves a tournament purpose. Like you could have a full 72 whole tournament on that golf course, 100%. And it was really difficult. It was kind of turned over to Monterey Peninsula the next day was like seeing the very first green S.O. which is the 10th green.

I was like, yep, this is my tempo. Like there is a bunch of stuff like helping this ball onto the green and a bunch of shots. I really wanted to hit instead of shots that like made my butt hole pucker a little bit. And for that reason, NPCC was the short course was way, way, way up on the list for me. And Spy was just kind of like very fosio,

Robert Trent Jones, like. That was like Robert Trent Jones masterpiece. Opus, yeah. I mean, there's some awesome holes. There's some really good holes, some really cool views, some really fun shots, but there's also some stuff though. I was just like, ah, that's just not my tempo.

But again, it serves a very strong purpose in terms of like, it's a waste of like, great land. Or is it like, I don't credit to the peninsula. I would say the best holes, the most fun holes were like the best use of the land, like two, three, like one is awesome, two is cool, three three the part three down the hill with incredible views and the sand dunes For is actually really cool. I was a cool part three and then six goes back up into the forest and from there It's like not incredible land like you get a couple cool views throughout there But it's some good golf holes, but not like insanely. No, I would not call it a waste

It's just you know, it's just like I said there's hard championship golf and the rough was not that bad this week, but man, just like missing on the wrong side was a extreme extreme punishment. All right. So this is going to feel a little bit like that meme where Obama is putting the medal on himself, but I would like you to tell us what your best shot of the weekend was, what you will dine out on for many years ago. Gosh, I have a list of them if you're ready. I don't know how long you'll indulge me, but I actually played really well at Spy and listen, this is one of many very punchable statements I'm going to make on the courses podcast, but I played horrific at Cypress on Tuesday and played a practice round on Wednesday at Pebble

that if I had to like finish out, I would not have broke 90. Like, the win was blowing. The greens were firm and I all of a sudden got terrified. I was like, oh my God, I'm a Florida golfer. I don't belong out here. I'm going to get so exposed. This is going to go very poorly. I got to give a shout out to JJ. My guy from title, let's see, brought the track man out to the range.

His idea, not mine, by the way. I got me dialed. My ball position got me fixed. It was a ball position. Yeah, I was getting too far back in my stance. I was coming in. This is what the same thing was at the NIT Tuesday. You know, when I was carrying for you, this is too far forward that day. So, yeah, you got me too far back though. And I just, I don't know what it was. It was, uh, from the first T. So again, huge crowd out on one. I wasn't really that nervous,

like, Bill T's off first. I got, I got to say, I got a great one on one. I wasn't really that nervous. Like, built his off first. I got to say I got a great one liner in. I didn't go back for it. I could have done it on every hole. But you know, built his off, everyone goes nuts and huge crowd out there and they introduced me and everyone's like, yeah, okay, who's this guy? And I nailed the joke.

Absolutely nailed it. It said, I want to thank everybody for coming out and watching me play today. It was perfect golf humor. Everybody went home and told their families about that joke and Got that and but like I just like wasn't really that nervous and I just came out and was striping it. I birdied You're going to the leaderboard 10 11 and 14 on spy and I felt extremely good about my contributions there, but

Pebble on Saturday. So we had just the hard-ass conditions Thursday and Friday, different conditions, but hard in the two days. And pebble, we came out, second group off, and it was so calm. The greens were so perfect. No poa, no issues at all. And it was just like how fast I was able like pin my ears back and go after pebble, it was so much fun. So much fun, like firing a wedge into four, hit a nine iron into five that just was all over it and then we got to eight, hit a great four iron off the tee and you get to hit this six iron shot

with like a gallery watching over the chasm and I hit it right to the fat part of the green. I almost birdied that one, birdied nine, birdied 10, lipped a five foot birdie on 11. I was just vibing my face off at that point. Do it too. Do it too. And then we got delayed.

So we got to 17 T when we got delayed and we had to come back out this morning and play that. I hit a good, we're high played 17 in the rain and then it started hailing. And then get one to play for your first. Oh my god. Oh my God. Oh my God.

I did the one iron. I like it. It was so, dude, the, it was so hard to play golf in these conditions. Hit the one iron that what, what hopped off the OB stick. It just, you know, putting layers on, taking layers off all this stuff. Blah, blah, blah. It was, it was a nightmare. And so whatever made par on 17 and then we had to wait like 45 minutes or so before we could tee off on 18 because the hail and the squeegee and all that stuff. And I it was so cold and we're back into the wind. And my heart just pumping on 18 T. Like this

is like this is your shot, man. This is it. This is it. Once you get to play this whole your plan, Bill fucking Murray for you know, you get up there. And I had a nice draw around that, you know, over the tree gets into the fairway and I already know the issue we're about to have, which is I have hit two three woods in this tournament. I have top them both. It has gone very poor. It's the club I'm least comfortable with right now. I get up there. My ball is 240 to out dead into the wind and the cold. Stroud my height man just like it's dead red

three wood as hard as you can hit it. Let's go. Let's go, man. I'm like, I'm in the Indian brother. I've topped my last two like this. It's got to go very poorly. You understand? And the NIT I had this with KVV and I hit it like a foot fat. It was. And I just like reared back and fired a three wood that started so far right and it just swept and it hooked and it hooked and it hooked and It landed right in front of the green and rolled up onto the green like it was maxed out It was my 265 shot and it maybe went to 30 and it rolled right up onto the green and I just like this enormous smile on my face and walked up the I I ended up leaving the Eagle Putt short, which hurt but made the birdie and walked up. I mean, having my dad on the bag and like making that walk

up 18, like it's truly like, I don't know if I'll ever have an opportunity like that in my life ever to do any of that. Like hit a shot, hit a shot at 18 of Pebble with a gallery like playing with Bill Murray with my dad on the bag and like not to get too sappy, but like my dad, my grandfather passed away a month ago. And it's my dad's dad. And it's hard to like watch your dad go through that,

a parent like go through that. And one thing he reflected on was he, my dad retired about four years ago. And he said in the last, you know, four years of his dad's life, he got to do a lot of stuff with him. And he was so thankful that he was able to retire and do that. He would have never done it otherwise. And it just made me think about like,

I need to continue to do things with my dad. And he was the one that introduced me to golf. And we got to make a walk up 18 together. And it was, it was like the coolest freaking experience in my life, I think. And I just love this game so much. I love him so much. And I'm just, I don't know, man, it was, it was a really freaking cool moment and I'll have that forever. Did you run into Macklemore ever? God, I was hoping New York would come up with something to bring his back to levity.

He did. I was going to make a joke about the franchise like, you know, dumping my clubs out or something like like how the how that moment's not possible for me. It's my dad's on the bag. He would find some way to fuck it up. Todd, how much longer you think this is going to take, man? We get a reservation. It's going to be good.

I'm probably skipping and you think this is gonna take, man, we get it, we get a reservation to tap really. You're good. I'm probably skipping this last couple. Oh, but no, I'm like, I was a great four ball partner this week. I, you know, people are like, dude, you must be like 25 under par. It's like, no, how four ball works? Like, Chris and I covered each other up really, or didn't cover each other up. You know, we ham and egged it really, really well. And I played good golf on any needed to.

If I had to sign my own card, it wouldn't have been the prettiest. I think I shot 74 or 73, 71, which I was pretty proud of considering all the conditions. But it wasn't like I just blitzed the whole thing. But maybe like 10 birdies and we just had so much fun. It's just really fun to execute shots with a lot of people watching and some pressure on you. Like, you know, I don't know. It was just a total, total blast in a thrill. All right, that's all I got.

What a great thing we got. The humor we got, pathos we got, all of it. It's like a novel. I'm gonna tell you. See, you didn't meet Macklemore? I did not meet Macklemore, unfortunately. I spent some time with Charles Kelly from LADA and of course, Ben Rector, like he said,

now fake celebrity and schoolboy cute. Did not meet schoolboy cute. But another shout out I got to give was like the Tuesday, like the parings party. There was a ton of players there. And I asked one of them, I was like, what do they, like, what do they pay you guys to be here? What's the arrangement here?

And he's like, no, we don't, we don't get paid for this. Like we just, you know, it's really fun. Like free food free booze and there's a lot of music like, we're all, we're on the corn fairy tour last year. I gotta say it's like nothing. Few things give me more anxiety than seeing you hit that shot at Nancy's house into his part because all I could think is myself is like if I had that it's shot someday, Jim, if you're listening, I would blade it off his house. Like I would just absolutely like skull it sideways right off the window. They're foam golf balls.

It helps a lot. They're like, it's almost golf balls or whatever it is. So yeah, again, to top off every day goes week, like Jim invited us over to his house. My wife and my dad as well, just like the three of us gave us like we hit balls in his backyard and we drank, well, drink is wine out of master's glasses. It was like, I don't know how, I don't know how

that I get to do this stuff, but like, I'm at least, I think I'm at least appreciative of master's glasses. It was like, I don't know how. I don't know how that I get to do this stuff, but I'm at least a preshive of all this stuff, and it's incredibly cool, and it all combined into one week, and almost made a hole in one at Nances, which would have been sick. What was his call? I say, that's where I got the shot of his life here, Dottie, as it was on his way to going in.

Like, he was, he was like, wait, no, I don't think Dottie likes this. I don't, it doesn't like me. Do you see growler in speed at all? Oh, yeah. So I grow, as I was getting ready to leave, that I'd speed comes up and task me. I was like, ever seen anybody shoot 59 in the wind.

I was like, who did that? He goes, I'm about to see a later. They went out and narrator. He did not shoot 59 in the wind. I don't think, think I appreciated that confidence. None of trucks parked out there for him to bag it off of. Saul, they're getting after it. It was, that's another thing though. It speaks about 39 on his first time.

Lee Ron. But so again, I'm swept up in the the the recency bias of the on-site experience, but walking around, I was never like, oh, dude, I wish that that was John Romer. I wish more, Kauo was here. Or I guess in person, my reaction to this is, you know, maybe in previous years when it was super confusing as to what are real PJ Tour events

and what are not, it was like, dude, what is this event? And now it's like, well, wait a second here. If we're going to clearly call out what is upper tier and what is lower tier, like it's very clear what this one is. And I think as long as that is like understood, I don't know what like we, in the same voice, you know, and I've complained about this event in the past, but now it's like crystallizing for me. The same voice.

I've been like, you know, this field talks like this, this event needs like an update of some kind yet now it's like, wait a second. We're also saying every week doesn't need to be a peak. Like the other events like need to stand out and this just like very clearly fits into a different category for me. So I think the only pushback, I totally agree with that and was kind of trying to come to terms with a little bit of that myself this week.

The only pushback I would have to that is that it feels a little bit deftest to have that attitude when we're talking about like pebble fucking beach. I know. I know. I'm on the best course on the whole calendar. Like no, I just want like everything you said is totally valid, and maybe this doesn't need to be any more than it is or whatever, but like also maybe you move this event to somewhere else. And we have a real tournament like at Pebble Beach. All right, so hold on.

So I think so Joel Bill had a really, really good article this week in golf digest actually yesterday. And basically laying out the same things. Like you said, this is one of the weakest fields in recent memory, speed, hoveland, Fitzpatrick, or playing. Otherwise they've got I think, it was seven of the top 50.

Yeah, there's 21 of the top 100 and half more, more than half the field is ranked outside the top 300, which is tough. And there's some quotes in there from the tournament of like, hey, we're not changing. Like, this is our format. We're sticking with it. We like, you know, we like the time slot.

Like, yeah, you can move us a week, you know, in either direction, you could switch us with Tori, all that stuff. I totally get all that. Speed also had a really like who speed who's contraction, obligated to play this event, had a really, really good point to he's like, hey, like, at some point, wouldn't it be great to have the best players in the world? Like, if if this week was Rom and Rory, who are both like these two charging lions at each other, like just, you know, getting ready to like do battle on eight, nine, you know, coming down the stretch, 16, 17, 18 at Pebble.

Like, that would be freaking awesome. And I feel like you can have the best of both worlds. You could go to Pebble twice a year. That's where I landed. It's, it's, it's either like play the program in the fall. Like do that. This in the senior event back to back weeks or something like that and do a big, a big dick event, if you will. Garrett Morrison was throwing out the tour championship. Like I was being the tour championship to Pebble would be so my god. A firmer, a firmer drier

pebble like for these guys would be unbelievable. I was going through the same like exercise of this week. I'm of like how do this this event still makes sense to me though again if like the local thing and the tradition of this thing is very real and like pebble is a part of that right yet I have all often felt when a lot of listeners listen to this like I've watched it on TV and just wondered like why can't I be more entertained by this event and it's just it's just stuck right It's like to an antiquated thing moving into like the TV era of golf, and I don't know if there is like an easy answer to it. If I would go to back, back, back weeks could work too.

I do like, you know, the lower tier event first, give all the top guys the week off, and then lower tier guys can play their way into the upper event, and you go back to back weeks at pebble and spy or something like that. Maybe you don't play in PCC in that one because three courses ads so many freaking variables that are a nightmare and I don't know. It's stuck. They've solved some of the entertainment stuff I think where like hats off to CBS and we'll get to the action from today, but CBS was like they've reimagined how they cover this event.

And I think hats off to them. Like, I sound like a complete dick rider right now. But like, that was, that was probably one of the most enjoyable Sunday, afternoon slash evenings of watching golf. I've had like the last five years. It was, and like, it didn't matter who was playing, who was on the screen. Like, right. It was just, it was just watching the best players,

or watching some of the top 300 players in the world play, some of the coolest golf holes in the world. Also fun when the CBS camera operators just get to cook out there. When they get good light, good angles, and they're setting up, it turns into an art piece. It's awesome. I'll also say, if you, let's say nothing is going to change, it's going to be the same. Some weeks, the competition can be the star, the players, and some weeks the course can sort of be what carries it. And look, do I think it's

as fun to see Peter Melnotti out there and, you know, as it is to be see John Rom, no. But also I still really like watching people. And that's going to be enough fun for me. It's also fun to watch Peter hit it in some of those bunkers today. And then get out of note, like get out of jail from, from right of one or, you know, I mean, some truly outrageously bad drives from him. I think something else as well is just like the like it kind of marks and Joel talked about this in his article as well, like how

the nature of the PJ tours changed. Like this used to be a place for guys to network and line-up sponsorship deals. He he called out Phil Mikkelson and Paul Casey in particular who were like, yeah, we don't miss this place because like we just, we straight up, like we play this about every year because we are lining up endorsement deals or, you know, investment things or whatever. And it seems like a lot of the guys, you know, a, the money's gotten so much bigger that those guys don't necessarily need to do that. Everything runs through the agent. These guys are more disconnected.

And I feel like, I don't know. I guess that's part of me sad, because I feel like a guy like Keith Mitchell feels like he's not gonna miss this event because, you know, let's say, he's a favorite of any of the year. He said, I was good. I was good at the year. Keith would, you know, like whether he gets to top five in the world, he's still gonna keep playing this event

because he gives a shit about that stuff and he likes, you know, he likes the hobb not hoppingbing and he likes all that stuff. He like he just gives a shit about people, right? You had a great, great point on Keith TC real quick that you said, I believe your quote was his entire aesthetic is built around being able to show it off on a gloomy day on the Monterey Peninsula or sunny day on the Monterey Peninsula. The whole look, the whole look is built for the Monterey Peninsula. It was good to see him thriving out there this week. I'll say this event too is like very much.

It's not for Colin Moorakawa. Like it's not for Max Homa, like the people that take their craft incredibly seriously. It is for people like they're there to have a good time. Like those guys are there to have a enjoyable week on the road. Like Joel Damon was like in the players village, like pounding in his after the round during rain delays. And it was there to like enjoy himself, right? And there is a lot more to life than golf and your job. And a lot of the pros enjoy like Rubin Elbows with the celebrities that are there. And just the concerts that happen

at night and meeting people on the Monterey Peninsula and going to cool dinners and lunch, like they're playing Cypress Point. Like there was so much fun stuff going on all around this tournament they get that again I go back to like it times didn't feel like PJ tour of it like it really didn't like you kind of forget that they're you know I'm sitting around I'm sitting around updated Hank Lebiodo on my my status on the leaderboard on the am side like oh yeah how are you doing it's like I'm in fifth place that was the first round leader place. All is the first round leader. My one wish, though, I think in all that is like, this is a, I think a good example of I wish that some athletes had a better appreciation for the history

that came before them, right? So if, if Bing Crosby isn't out there, like Charmin people and, you know, bringing Frank Sinatra around and, you know, putting on a sort of show, the PGA tour might not exist. It might look a very different sort of thing if the 50s and 60s were like, basically, we'll give the shit about golf. Let's have more interest in the NBA or whatever. So I kind of just wish that some of the people who are making more money than they could ever spend generationally would sort of step back and say, you know what? I get it. This is kind of just wish that some of the people who are making more money than they could ever spend generationally would sort of step back and say, you know what, like I get it, this is kind of annoying, it's a nuisance. But I wouldn't be doing what I was doing. I wouldn't

be able to just write checks for cash for a house if the, you know, if the Krasbi Klambeck hadn't sort of built the foundation for who I am at my league, my professional sort of status. And I don't think a lot of people just have this sort of like grasp of what this tournament meant to the PGA tour in its growth. Like what's the, I guess that kind of leads me to my question of like, what's the future look like as far as how, like, how can you work within that box to improve it? Why is JR Smith not in the field?

Right? I mean Trevor Lawrence likes playing golf. I don't even know what the fuck the pro bowl is at this point, but he's there this week. Why doesn't Trevor Lawrence, like lean more in because CBS is deep into the NFL, lean more into that. Figure out how to get bigger. Josh Allen was a nice, Josh Allen was a big presence.

He can swing it. I got a nice golf swing. But like I think that's, yeah, more, more present athletes can only help this thing. And yeah. Musicians and actors and all that. It's like, you know, and I know we get back to like, you know,

culture is fragmented and everything as well. But like, you know, Kenny G and like, you know, and I know we get back to like, you know, culture is fragmented and everything as well, but like, you know, Kenny G and like, I'm not sure, you know, I'm sure like, there's, there's plenty of dudes that play golf on the road, right? There's plenty of, there's plenty of musicians out there to play golf on the road. Let's find some more of those. Charles Mark would be a great addition to that. Well, tell me if I'm wrong, though, it feels like it has turned over, like in recent years, like I don't think Gary Mule, like everyone's favorite Gary Mule deer is in this or, you know,

Kenny G, I don't think play will post-playing it at this year, right? And they do have more, I don't know, it seems to be a conscious thing for them to get more younger people in it and rotate people in and whatnot, but it was Lars the cable guy there. I did not see Lars. I will say though, like an incredible, like up close seeing the logistical operation that is this tournament with like almost certainly weather delays. Holy shit, getting what's 156 times two golfers to their holes across 54 holes, winding roads through mountains and stuff like that. And their player guests and their caddies was one of the most impressive Logistical operations I've ever seen and

I could it can also speak to how things went very wrong for the PGA tour on Saturday Which I don't know if that's the next topic we have for today, but I know we need to talk about that I think we should get into it. I mean, I don't know that it's really that valuable to speak to like who might win or who might not you know I think Uh, the team rose situation is where we're monitoring it. But, but Tron, I think we should ponder to you, you know, you had some frustrations with the logistics and way that sort of the decisions were made to call things off. I'm going to turn it over to you. And I think just tell us what your main beef was with. Yeah, I don't know. It just, I mean, granted, like, sorry, you can speak to you. And I think just tell us what your your main beef was with. Yeah, I don't know. It's just I mean, granted like,

sorry, you can speak to this. It's seemed like conditions are drastically different. Maybe of course, it can be. It can be. Yeah. And from a microclimate, some here in T.C. Trying to lead into that. You don't, you don't like the weather, wait five minute situation, because we watched that play out over the final hour on Sunday of like a sideways sleep as Mel Noddy and Justin Rose were playing the eighth hole and then like perfectly sunny five minutes later. And so spreading that out over over three golf courses, which means 54 different holes means, yes, you're going to have like very much when, when they called play on Saturday, I was very much in a situation where I'm like, dude, it's like five miles an hour here.

And they're like, no, no, balls are blowing off the greens and rolling backwards at Monterey Peninsula right now. I was like, oh, shit. Like, I think there is like that. Just something that you can't, I don't know how you plan for that over 54 holes. I think there are some things you can do, but they made, there were some mistakes made. There were some mistakes made that this was an avoidable situation for sure. Yeah, it's also like, dude, it is really freaking hard to get like a challenge right for the best players in the world when they can do

whatever the hell they want with the golf ball and to be able to adjust to a changing forecast that threw a what knee buckling 12 to 6 curve ball at the tour. It's just like roll back the ball would be we're going gonna talk about this for a long time and it ends up at roll back the ball for me. But yes, there's some mistakes that were made. Like I just don't understand how the, like you're playing links like seaside golf, right? Like, like at Pebble, the greens are never crazy fast.

Why are the greens that fast that monitor peninsula? Hey, like why do you need that? Be, you play on these courses every year, you switch between dunes and shore. I mean, the fucking name of the course is the shore course. Like, you're going to have, like, you're sitting next to the biggest body of water in the world in early February. Like, of course, you're going to have some shit that like pops up

unprompted, you know, in the forecast. Like, even if it's a 24, 48, you know, even if it's a two hour thing, I'm like, oh, shit, we didn't see that in our forecast. And then be like, like, I feel like you're using all these same pins pretty much every year, right? Like, like, like that pin on nine, they use that pin every time they play the, the, uh, short course. And that is where we can skip right to this right of for those that don't know. When you have a three course road up, everyone played, you know, you play one course, Thursday, one course Friday, one course Saturday, they keep the pins in the same spot

or same general area on every whole so that all the players play the same golf course. They move at a foot or, you know, here and there, whatever, but everyone plays the same pins. And so if they wake up, you know, if they knowing, going into Saturday, if they know wins are going to get crazy, they can set up a golf course to say, like, okay, this part of the green is unusable. We need the safest possible spot on nine green. Don't care about the scoring average. Winds are going to be crazy anyways.

Let's find the safest spot. But when you've put it in a pretty challenging spot on Thursday, you cannot move it come Saturday. That is their rule or approach. Unless Patrick Green is coming through, then they move it. I would say the like, okay, yes, mistakes made in the green speed, green speeds too fast, green speeds are too fast in general. I think in all of golf, I'm weighed down with that plan. It's like the one week where it's like, who gives you shit? It's a pro. Correct. We don't need to be this fast. Let's get guys through the piece of plays outrageous anyway, right? Exactly.

So, but I would say is, listen, is better to have had a few groups play different pin positions on a couple holes and be able to finish on Sunday than with their current situation, right? And I don't know whether it's a hard and fast rule they have of like, this is how the tournament has to be run. You are playing these holes in such drastically different conditions anyways that, I mean, when I played Pebble Beach on Saturday morning, it was pin your ears back and go do whatever the hell you wanted.

It was awesome. It was really fun. And when I played Monterey Peninsula, it was raining sideways and I was wearing double rain gloves. So it's not like easy as course. So you should be able to like, you know, guys are getting punished on a day like there where like they can't be making birdies. Yeah. And I'm saying like the variables are so different when you go play that ninth

hole at Monterey Peninsula anyways, move the pin. And if you got to move a pin from an easier spot to a harder spot on a more secluded hole, do that too to balance it out. That's fine. Like this is a very imperfect competition with all the variables of the draw and everything go, and there's fucking amateurs putting out like before you hit your putt and you can learn from amateur putst out there. It's just, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, let's just spend the regular. 100%. Like policies, right?

And so I don't think anyone would have complained about a few pins movie like, oh my, oh yeah, but they got to play the easy pin on nine. It's like no, two rows would have complained. Yeah, they would have complained. I love it. I just I think that's right. Joke of a pin tron. The middle of the green is absolutely. There was so much complaining going on this week. All from guys that should be extremely thrilled to be playing a PGA tour of it. But I that that's where I think they painted themselves into a corner this week. And it sucked, I know people wanted to in an un-saturday and watch Pebble

and like not get to play sucked ass. Like it was playable at Pebble. I mean, it would have been tough. Like I would have had to play 17, 18. Which I think that's what everybody was excited for, right? Is like to see these guys get actually challenged and then like going back to the microclimates thing. It's like if there is my, really,

if there are microclimates, then the conditions are radically different in each golf course anyway. Why does it matter that? Set them up for what they are. Yeah, and then it's like just, you know, like I know next week's elevated, that complicates matters, or designated, I'm sorry,

that complicates matters even more. So where it's like at some point, why don't you just, just try to get as many people done on each golf course as you can and then figure it out on the back end of like, you know what, we're sending these guys off at 7 a.m. at MPCC to get these last, you know, eight holes, don or whatever.

Cause like, I mean, really, team Rose got absolutely fucking crowned. Crowned. It worked out well for him. It also sounds like he may have had a valid point for wanting things shut down at Monterey Peninsula. But it was two holes out of the, it was two pins or two greens out of 54 holes. My question is, is this the first time in history that you've ever had

lived cream in place for an entire week while they're simultaneously watering the greens. That might be the case. That very well might be the case. Also, lift clean place was a million percent necessary from the jump. Like it was it was mud bald nash out there. And it is soon it was actually it goes relatively firm

on the greens, but as soon as it rained again, it was like, oh my god, there's so much water sitting beneath this surface that's been sitting there for a month that is waiting to just come rising to the top. But yeah, it was, it was LC. I know we like to give them shit for the lift clean and place. Let me testify. This was a lift clean and place week. But again, I think, I think things could have been avoided if they were willing to move

some, a couple pins and then it was then then today Why like why can they pause play on one course today But not do that on Saturday Did only pebble pause today. Yeah, yeah Did not know that I don't know the answer to that Is that just because it's Sunday and that's they're making an exception because like they they're trying to get to Phoenix. It just seems like they, it seems like people are going to complain no matter what, right? Like they're going to complain if, you know, if it all has to be simultaneous and you know, my course was underwater while you guys were in the

sunshine, so you made me keep playing like they're going to complain there or they're going to complain if you're changing each course and kind of using You know treating each one like its own environment So I feel like you got to just like do the rational thing Which is to treat them all like their own environment and choose that complaining and you want to keep pulling on this string We're gonna land at 156 people for a golf tournament is fucking insane. Wait is it insane? We're like live is not gonna run into this problem for all the flaws that live has like

is insane. And like, live is not going to run into this problem for all the flaws that live has like figuring out that 48 guys should play in a golf tournament and you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, makes us a shitload of sense. And like, they're not going to have Monday finishes. They probably will, but like, they have way more windows to do this stuff in than like trying to fit all these, like, it's insane to fit this many people in. But that, you know, you know, you don't want to be helpful today. Shotgun start.

What do you think about all the WDs this morning or last night? I should say, yeah. I mean, again, it's like when you're a thousand miles away, I'd have been like, oh, look at these guys. I love what assholes pulling out. And like when you're there, you're like, yeah, dude, I got like, I'm going to miss a cut by five. And I got like two holes to play and I can get home to my family tonight. Instead of like tomorrow like yeah Like that makes a lot of sense. I Don't think a lot of those guys are gonna play a Monday qualifier

Yeah, some of them need it Monday. Yeah If you if you get a hot week in Phoenix and win that it changes your life, right? This you miss them the cut, you know, we're grinding it out for the honor of things like it It's not like I texted Chris we had two holes to play. And he was outside the cut line, but closer to it than I realized. But I was like, dude, if you need a bail tomorrow, like do not show up for me. Like we're totally fine. Here's like, no, I, I, and DA points showed up this morning to play two holes and was way

outside the cut line. Like these, and these guys are like, dude, it's just the right thing to do. Like this tournament's been amazing to me. I'm here to, you know, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna bail on it. So I had no problem with guys that, that bail it and it again, when you're sitting there at it It's like, dude, I would really be in a hurry to get out of there if I was those guys and had to do it again the next week for me It was a coolest and most fun week of golf. I've ever played So like I was gonna be there regardless of anything this morning

But for them to do it professionally like go week to week totally understand. If Chris withdrew, would you still have been able to play? I would have played anyways. I don't know if that would have gone for sure. Like you just brought out there and hope that the pink would get some of them. Come dry. You have a 940. So you're not on the sheet. That's cool.

Well, I'm just going to go ahead right now. Thanks. Just back to the actual tournament. Let's assume for a second that maybe Justin Rose wins this. Is it do anything for you at all? Do you feel like it's been four years since the world, former number one here? Here's what I say.

Not, not a Justin Rose fan. I think you've always been on team road. You're our team. You know, just not, not my favorite golfer in the world. I don't actively root against him necessarily, but just doesn't really do it for me. Take that for what you will. But I will say I gotta give some credit where it's due in that like how fucking easy it would have been for him to go join live. Yes. And for him to cash in massively on, you know, as a major champion, Olympic champion, future rider cup captain, like he could have gotten a very, very, very big check.

Hasn't and instead has like clearly continued to grind and actually like totally lost it. It seemingly and totally found it and rebuilt it and, you know, had a, some, he's had like a pretty good, uh, West Coast swing, I think, had a pretty good fall. And now is on the cusp of winning. And so not my favorite guy out there, but it got to give some credit if he does get it done. And if he doesn't, you know, that, that's fun too. So, uh, I'm excited to watch him.

We'll see what happens. I'll still give him credit even if he doesn't win for the exact thing you said as in, I do, part of like why I've hated about that some of the guys that have gone that were just like maybe slightly on the down tick of their career was like after watching them achieve great things, was like, dude, this is kind of part of the deal with golf. Nobody rides the high forever. Like part of the, the shitties stuff is what makes the good stuff worth it. And like falling back into a safety net in your 20s or 30s, whatever, you know, whenever

you did this is like not why I like following golf, right? Like part of the stress is the deal, right? I mean, speed went through three years of not hell, but like really bad golf in his, and he's like trying to battle his way out of it. Ricky to his credit would have been super easy to go. And he's trying to grind his way out of it. Ricky, to his credit, would have been super easy to go and he's trying to grind his way out of it. And so I'm with you, Deeds, I got to give Justin Rose respect that he fits the bill really, really, really well for live and has not done it. And I, in that way, I'm rooting for him.

I am really excited about Justin Rose being a Ryder Cup captain. Because like if someone who loves that competition above all things, like Justin Rose is the great European Ryder Cup captain, a little bit smug, a little bit sort of, you know, very into it. Come off, you know, be a little bit sort of snarky with other players or the press. I'm, I think I'm really bummed about the idea of Ian Polter never being Ry rider cup captain just because of what he's meant to my watching of that event. And so if that never happens, that's a huge bummer. And if you just continue to pick off more and more guys who are sort of an important part of it as players, if they never got to be because I think that would make a lot of sense. And I hope that that's one of the reasons. And just so much context with his career too, right?

Where like I know Paul McGinley was kind of a curveball captain anyways, but it's like it's not like I have many or any memories of Paul McGinley playing professional golf. Really, right? Whereas like Justin Rosen, Medina can picture that pretty fucking vividly, man. Like that, that I remember happening. Him getting, yes, him getting to, you know, winning the US Open. I remember that very vividly. Like we're going to be robbed of kind of the Westwoods, Polters, Sergio's, like all these guys that, you know, our generation have grown up watching, getting robbed of them as Ryder Cup captains likely. Maybe not. Who knows? Who knows how it'll shake out?

Maybe the Dustle Settle and those guys will all have their turn, but assuming that they won't as the way it looks right now. And that kind of blows. I don't know what they're going to do for those gap years. We can be looking at the Hoi Garnts as co captains. Possible or Ludwig. Hmm. Flutters might be a playing captain in a couple of years. Yeah. Beyond Rose, like he's, you know, he's currently up two shots of

her Denny McCarthy, who's just went completely unconscious on the front line. Can we talk about that? Uh, the Augusta Berder tweet about how much Denny McCarthy looks like Lee Harvey Oswald. I don't like that. That would kind of hit me like a fucking very scary. Yeah. I mean birdie one two four five six seven and nine. And then makes the turn. Birdie birdie is 11. Not birdies 11. Oh yeah, like a 12 footer on 10 that he bids 15 footer. And then bogeys 13 and 14 birdies 15. He's on 16 right now. And he's got a 14 footer for birdie. So, you know, he's he's

Like, I mean, 700 through 15 Brendan Todd's playing well. He's 500 through 12 Monotti's scraping one together 200 through nine. I'm going down the leaderboard right now, but the tournament's not over. So it makes sense to go down the leaderboard guys. We'll allow it. We'll allow it to see. We'll. Pendrith, Pendrith had an iron off the tee on 18. Oh, I was very happy. Again, shout out to CBS.

Happy to hear Trevor and M.O.M.M. question that one. Like pretty, you know, pretty respectfully, but a little like, yeah, I don't really get that at all. This guy nukes the golf ball. He's got a chance to make an eagle post a number before everybody else. Make everybody think about it as they're going out to play those tough holes and really cold weather tomorrow morning. And then he just makes like kind of

a gross par, scrapes it together, makes par a horrible birdie putt on 18. And yeah, now sits in the clubhouse, what three back of the lead. But anyway, it's my 12 in the clubhouse. It was good to see Trevor. I was happy to see him call that out. And then Amanda, you know, kind of closes the circle on gets an interview with him afterwards, asks him about it, it's like, oh, there we go. It's the storytelling context.

We've got the beginning, middle and an end here. This is great. His answer was that it wasn't driving it well. It was teach out the minimum, comfortable. The wind wasn't right. It was cold. It was like, oh, that's a lot of reasons. And in his defense, there's only one guy that hit the 18th green and two on Sunday. And he's Canadian. It was just very, it was just very Canadian. So, yeah, they're in a fancy. Can I take a second to, to,

Yeah, yeah. Just kind of like, you know, man, can I take a second to to, uh, I get home from the very. It's a, it's a boot to 60. All the Canadians who don't drive well, they are, they are the two are getting furious right now. Notice that I have not partake of this director, veterans to TC at KVV. Can I talk about Mel Naughty for a second?

Please feel like we've used him as an example over the years. No one possibly more than, well, Tron has more than me. But I've shined on the guy, not. Almost no one more than me. Usive has just the example of like that. We got a death penalty on this guy. We got to get this guy off the tour. Get him out of here.

I was so tickled by his interview on Saturday. He was so genuine. Is he a massive cheese ball? Yes, he definitely is. He's the guy from Chachkis. Yeah, all the space. That's exactly right. You want some?

I'll have to know, Bob, you're 16. Can I ruin you too? Brian's got 37 pieces in his way. The more I thought about it, though, the more I'm like, what's a bigger sin here is like just being like an extreme cheeseball or like being an extreme cheeseball pretending to be someone else. Like that guy I think is pretty obviously being himself out there can't hate him. He can't hate on him for that, you know, he's he's doing his

thing. He clearly just like wants to play really good golf and hang out with his family. I think it's pretty obvious that he's maxed out his talent more than maybe anybody on the PJ tour. It keeps his card hangs around, has a win. So, you know, I was kind of, maybe I'm just getting old and sentimental, but I was talking myself into rooting for Mel Nadia a little bit. I never thought I'd get there. I'm right there with you, man.

Wow. This is huge. Just, you know, like I feel like I need to just spend some time with him and get some positivity and some sunshine in my life. I was bummed to see no kind bar. I don't hate the worst man on his on his on his outerwear. Maybe you just didn't have an embroidered or whatnot, but. Too much sugar in those maybe too much sugar. Team roast might have an issue with that.

Can I give a shout out to Boah Haasler? Sure. 67 on Saturday at Spyglass or most of Saturday, he finished today, but on Spyglass. That was just, that was an exceptional round. He was, he, he doubled six, which was his 15th hole, but he was, uh, gosh, he was seven under through 14 at spyglass yesterday in like the shit, which was serious. He seems like he's, he's coming on. He's another guy that like, you know, he's always reminded us of a golden retriever. I know. We thought he'd be running around on Carmel Beach down there. Chase the tennis balls after his ride.

He just seems to be coming into his own a little bit. Don't say us by the way. That was a Randy take that I do not see at all by the way. That's it. That's like a Randy T.C. Neil and DJ take. Yeah. That's a bunch of a golden retrieve. I don't. Oh, yeah. Randy used to stay at I thought it was just because Randy hates dogs. It didn't like bohawslur. No, I can see how you talk. Do you guys make a list for the new employee about which takes I have to climb in which

one's after just. Sure. We're not going to mandate any of your take. You you can pick and choose as you like. Couple of other guys. Keith Mitchell. Keith's kind of stalled out a little bit. He's three back minus 12 thoughts on the mic up segment on the third hole.

I thought it was great, except for the wind. Yeah, the condition he's were a little tough for that, but it's gonna be a lot easier in Phoenix, I think, when they're like playing Dohm golf. I would think so, but John LeMani calling him off is shot in the end. So great. Great little nugget

and Trevor is awesome at just like not asking like, Hey, how's it going out there? Right? Like how do you the wind is doing this? How do you prepare for this? And it led straight to Keith being like, Yeah, I mean, I was looking at the map last night and like looking at which holes or which direction. So you know, which pins are going to be get a ball and you know, mash it up with the pinch sheet and seeing, you know, start visualizing what shot you're gonna hit off certain holes because the wind direction and things like that. And you hear, again, just like,

it's not like game changing, but you hear the conversation about them agreeing on like a 115 shot. And then the wind changes a little bit. John the money comes in, talks them off of it or you know, pulls them off the shot, they change it to a 110 shot. And he hits it and lands it right pin high. I was just like, dude, that's just again, it's not like viral content. It's just

really engaging. My eyes and ears were super focused on the TV and that's a great improvement. And it just is so, I don't know, I don't mean to say obvious like it's like, you know, smarmy way, but it's just like, who the fuck do you think is watching this tournament, man? Yeah. It's like the sickest, sickest, sickest golf sickos that are watching this stuff. And it's just like who the fuck do you think is watching this tournament, man? Yeah. It's like the sickest sickest golf sickos that are watching this stuff and it's like just they don't want to hear, you know, and you can hear what like you can start to see it bump up against the rails of like, how many sweaters you got out there? How many, which actually was kind of a funny joke, but like, you know, they start to fall back on the crutches of like very boring kind of generic questions and It's awesome when Trevor or Nance or Noble or whoever snaps back into just like no, no, talk to me about that wedge

And then you get really good stuff on like no, we the win switched and so we took four off of it And what he was doing with this track man and how they were normalizing numbers and it it's like, that's just think about who's watching this content. Like, what do those people want to see? Like, don't, don't try to imagine, you know, some milk toast thing that's going to bring in people who are already not watching in the first place, which is what so much golf stuff seems to be. It's like specificity. And then like trying to like, like, I applaud them for leaning into the golf sicko, you know, wonky stuff instead of going the other direction. I think it's such a validation for like, no, like when you do that and you bring up the level and you force people to like, you know, learn something about golf instead of spoon

feeding and going to the lowest common denominator and just pissing everybody off like, oh my gosh, imagine what happens. Like it's your product. Well, I think, and we're going to get imagine what happens, like it strengthens your product. Well, I think, and we're gonna get into this when we talk about the full-swing stuff eventually, I think, but that was one of my, one of my things about that, even coming in to,

even before I watch the episodes, and now that I have watched the episodes, is like, when you do take it down to that lowest common denominator level, golf is just not interesting. And like the thought I know is like, we need to make it more approachable for casual fans. I'm like, well, I get that thought,

but it's not the same as basketball where you can just show slam dunks. It's not the same as F1 where you can show fiery car crashes and beautiful people in crazy places. It's not like, it's not that. It just when you strip away all the nitty gritty stuff, it just gets really boring.

And that's why I think this segment is like the best example of what the opposite looks like. And TC, I'll push back on you. You know, you're somewhat hesitant to give CBS props in terms of your hesitant to be a derider, I believe, was the phrase in there. And it's like, I want to shout out super. I don't think you need to put up a disclaimer that you feel like a derider by doing that because when we were really hard on them, it wasn't for the sake of being haters or being hard on them

or just shitting on something. It was because there was a massive gap in following the golf tournament and us being the biggest golf fans imaginable and wanting to just try not watch golf. That is really hard to do right and It it it's okay. It's it would be disingenuine of us to not acknowledge the drastic improvements that have been made And I don't have the same feelings of dread when I flip it on now

Are there sometimes when the commercial load still feels too big? But I don't think they forgot to go to commercial for like 30 minutes at one point today Or at least it felt that way, right? And like that is such a market improvement and that it you know, sure people are always gonna You know if they want to hate they can hate and think we're just deriders for the sick again I don't know what the basis is for that, but dude. I spent I spent like six years Shitting on CBS and call for like Sean McManus and Lance Barrow and all these people to like lose their jobs.

So I feel like I have some deep. I feel like I have some good families. Like I'm allowed to I'm allowed to praise progress. And I think like deep down they didn't want to admit it, but they were like, you guys are right. Like, okay, we got to make some changes. They've embraced it, man. I got it.

You have to give them credit for it. And they've become the leaders in presenting golf. And this team, this team is really good at talking golf and that I think the I owe a lot of that to Trevor. He's a great quarterback. But they were great. I mean, it was great today. Like when they had them all in the director's chairs along along the coastline. Like they had 45 minutes or an hour to kill at the start of their broadcast when there was nobody on the golf course. They did some stuff with Arnet and Bateman out there, which was, which was great. Then they got in the golf course, then like they're adding features. There's all sorts of new camera angles. Like you said, it seemed like they forgot to go to commercial. Handle cameras go more. I think they probably buried a bunch of commercials during the delay.

But still, like that was something that they, you know that they used to like front load and then also just do the regular load once they got going. There was stuff. There were camera angles, just regular camera angles, drone shots on seven on eight on nine that I've never dreamed of seeing a pebble. You know, and like it didn't, like it got to the point where it didn't matter who was playing in the tournament. It was, I just wanted to see guys hit golf shots.

I wanted to see Rose hit that shot on eight or, you know, see guys hit hit the shot on seven and they truly brought it to life. And, you know, I mean, shit, like even Ian Baker Finch said something critical today. He said, Michael Kim's putting is not the strength of his game, which is which was just number 8,000 in the world, which again, flashback to four years ago when Fox had the US open at Pebble Beach and they had drones and Nance came in the booth. He was like, wow, look at that view of seven. I've never seen that from a drone before. He's like, God, you guys have broadcasted this tournament for so long and you've never brought that view. And now it's just standard. So it's the level of coverage has been risen. So. And even just being able to see like, I mean, through in that

thing on number four, was it three or four with key on three with key Mitchell today, like, those are two of the most underrated holes in the entire golf course that normally get lost in the shuffle as they're trying to fit a bunch of shit in at the beginning of the broadcast that we never get to see. And it's like, oh, my gosh, this is like, it's delightful to be able to watch that and, you know, see these holes, see the best holes in the golf course in a really, really cool light today too. So a lot more stuff to get to. What's next? Any concerns about Havland? I mean, it's just kind of like, you know, he was right

there today. He's even through 11 right now. It's just not happening, you know? He's amazingly has like some of the most, like worldwide PGA tour and European tour wins over the last three years. Yet I had to like double, when I looked up that saddle data golf and I did like double check what they actually were and they're like of course,

bunch of island victories that, you know, in off seasons that are weird and whatnot. But yeah, I'm ready for, we're ready for a big one. We're ready for at least like a medium-sized win because I don't even know if he has a medium-sized win yet. And then I just want to shout out Brandon Wu. We've been really impressed watching him today. And he's got that big ass hat.

It looks like less miles. Is he? Yeah, potentially all had no cattle, T.C. Looks like Covins. Chipping has improved this year. Just looked it up, you know, like 39th stroke's game. He did hit a six shot on 18 at the end around three. He was in the tree by the green like on near roots on a bald line.

Hit a really bold nippy pitch that stopped and spun right next to the hole. It was really, really good. Yeah. I think he, I guess, I don't think he did he not play the Middle East stuff. I don't think he did. I don't think he's, I don't think he's played anything. He played the century that he took a ton of time off this winter and was spending a lot of time in Norway and played century, but was not sharp and it's just been working himself into shape. I think maybe he's just just getting back into it. I could honestly look, he's seeing him playing good at it.

I just want to see him be a killer because I really like him and like I love his game and he's so good with his irons and everything. It's just, it's just, it's just, it's just one more thing about pebble. Just like playing it kind of in tournament conditions. Is there, it seems like there's something super cool and weird about it to where it's like this combination of small greens and like weird slopes around the greens. Like on eight yesterday, or yeah, on Saturday, Keith Mitchell had like one of the most like the grossest up and downs I've ever seen or just stuff that you're like, like you

wouldn't see that on any other PGA tour golf course. And Pebble just has it in spades. Well, it was amazing again, playing it Wednesday and playing it Saturday was two totally different experiences because Wednesday, again, it was like playing with two left feet. I mean, if you ended up above some of those holes, some of you couldn't even keep it on the green.

I was so nervous I couldn't even spit on some of those chips. And it, but like then all of a sudden sudden when it gets soft, it's just like, oh shit, like this is kind of simple. There's that fine line of this place can be really hard. I walk off the winds, I was like, dude, it's Pebble, like one of the hardest golf courses in the world. Like I never feel like that watching on TV, but it feels like it now. And then when it was soft and then the conditions weren't there, I was like, oh, okay, maybe it's really not. So it dances that fine line, but there are so, the greens are so small yet with such rigid edges to them that if you miss the small greens, you're trying to leave it on the fat part a little bit.

But if you miss like on that bad spot on two or bad spot on one left of it or up on those, that hill on eight, oh my god, dead. I went long on 16 because I air meld the green there. Oh my god, is that dead? And I went long on 16, because I air-meled the green there. Oh my god, is that dead. And I went long on 15, totally toast. And then you got to like land your chip in the rough. Yes. And hope for the right counts.

And to trundle forward. It's crazy. So I have more respect for Pebble. After, can I have played it in 12 years, it is a rule. Dude, just the scenes were just incredible. Like, I live in a beach town and I'm used to seeing coastline and then you go and see like both Maui and Mono Peninsula again, we're just like, oh my God,

this is like what real coastline looks like. Kevin, I were talking about the other day. I mean, I think like the US women's open this year could be without exaggeration. Like the coolest tournament in the history of women's golf, right? Like I don't know what you could make make a case that like the open it, you know, the women's open it players start to really like grab the bull by the horns. Lydia obviously is like beating people up again, like having any kind of stars collide at Pebble

could be just the absolute coolest. I can't wait for that tournament. We played, the Amiters played this tease they're going to play for the US women's open. It was 64, 57 is what we played it at. So there was like longer than they usually play it, like a back across a little bit of the ditch on three and a couple places where some of the other aims that have played it before said the T's were not there. And it's going to be it's

going to be a very interesting test of golf and I'm very excited for that. Can we talk about the finish on the DP World Tour? Morning. I was just going to call out speed real quick. I was completely tour. Morning. I was just going to call out speed real quick. I was completely, I put 92 nuggets on him this week. Just yeah, that's that's called it at, you know, around three performance. And then I wanted to shout out Paulo Hara. Who's a pro pro. I found out like two or three weeks ago that he was in the field. I guess he had a sponsor exemption. He's like number one on the tartan tour in scottan, which is like this fifth tier like pro tour. Has it hit off of natural grass in like three months goes out and makes the cut. So I just wanted to shout that out. He's playing with speed in the final round here. So that's a good shout out.

Solid. You see the finish on the dude. Perfect. You're in the front. I did. I was about the only thing outside of what I played at this week that I actually saw what a thrill that was for those that did not see it. Daniel Gavin's show.

This is, of course, the the Rosal Kamaia championship TC. Not to be the reason the Rosal Kamaia open. Yeah. Open or is it open or classic or what? Yeah, whatever the other one is. Do you guys think about like Rosal Gull from the bad news every time? I almost say that every time. But Daniel Gavin comes to the T with a two shot lead at 18 hits two balls in the water hits his T shot in the water. It hits his t-shot in the water just like it's kind of a what would be a hole that it's like a reverse 18 at sawgrass kind of or no I guess it's a

par five right so it's like a reverse 18 at pebble almost like the water's on the right instead of left and just blows his t-shot way right it's like it's like Bayhurt almost yeah but like a par five and so a par four. Yeah, he had driver with a two shot lead on 18 with water all the right. Takes a drop goes for the green with a three wood, never going to believe where that one ends up. Just an unbelievable, unbelievable series of events hits like kind of a shitty wedge on and then makes like a 20 footer for

double 30 footer for double, which like, which, you know, he ends up winning the tournament outright. It was, it was truly unbelievable stuff. Yeah. So Bjork was like, I guess up ahead, he bogies, because Gavin's had a two shot lead and then Zander Lombard, who was leading. So he was in the last group, missed the 25 footer for Eagle. Yeah, he had a chance to send it to a playoff. Yeah, it was just really, really good stuff. Would would recommend looking up the highlights from that one. And Gavin's had had a crazy round.

I mean, he had like, he buried like five holes in a row at one point. He had three bogies, he had a double. It was like pure cocaine. It was off. It was whiffs of the playoff at Lofoten, Sally. The triple, triple the win. It was off. It was whiffs of the playoff at Lofoten, Sally. The triple, triple the win. Anything else, DP World Tour? Yeah, Sally, I don't, I don't want to bring this up.

You know, it's tough for you. Tough day for the Hoi Guard twins. I went Hoi Guarding this weekend and they did not close the deal on Sunday. It's okay. That's fine. We're still waiting. Still waiting my first bed of the year. We're going everything else in my life is going great. I'm the season of the season. I'm just the year matching 73s. Rasmus finished T6. Nikolai, the defending champ finished T13.

KVU was asking what the what the differences between the Huy guards is. They look, they're very identical. I guess John Hogan had a great great feature on them last year a couple years ago in golf digest but Nikolai's a couple minutes older than Rasmus he may see that but but otherwise they look very very identical I think Rasmus is kind of like like he had earlier success both as an amateur and his professional he's's kind of longer, more language, smoother swing, Nikolai's like longer off the tee, quicker, shorter swing,

a lot more erratic, more of a bomb and gouger. And I think this is very interesting. They have different coaches. So they're not, they're not coached by the same guy, but I would say Rasmus more polished, probably has more shots in his repertoire, more composed under pressure. Nickelized ceiling is probably higher if he can harness his power a little bit more.

So. Okay. Thank you for that. I was trying to explain to my daughter this morning the difference between them. I was like, I honestly have no idea. I just know their twins. And she was like, what? What? How are their twin golfers? It's unbelievable. Can we, can we talk about the news of the week? Oh, no, TC. Smoking bridge. Yeah. I think somebody I saw a digger this up on Twitter that, Tron, you were years ahead of this called the Smoking Bridge of disgrace.

What we were there for tourist sauce. Always one of my favorite takes. Smoking bridge so overrated and now I think it's a little overrated. Kind of a, almost a self-fulfilling prophecy as they, uh, Swig of Bridge so overrated. And I think it's a little overrated kind of a almost a self-fulfilling prophecy as they, uh, for those that didn't see the photos put put a bunch of, put a paving stones on it. Yeah. Swig and patio. No, it looks very patio-ish for, you know, I'm, I'm projecting here, but I'm guessing it's a foot traffic issue for, for those that have been there. You probably remember that area in front of the bridge gets pretty chewed up. Obviously, everybody goes, you know, walks right through there.

It's often muddy. And so they took it upon themselves to kind of extend the stones. It's a DIY project. Takutadio on the front end of it. And it didn't go great on social media. So I think it's your statement today about it. I don't know if you guys had any reaction serious or not serious. They're saying it's also like in keeping with I guess it was like that

a couple hundred years ago, which you know, I mean, you know, it just doesn't look good. I think it's the only thing I would have there. It just doesn't fucking look good. But a couple of years before that, there was nothing. I don't think they should do that either. If I may say it didn't look good before though, like it was so downtrodden and like the artificial turf looked awful. And the, just like let it be mod, right? Just like like sometimes in the year, it's going to just, it's's gonna be a little like during the

Dunhill, like it was, it was already wet and cold more than usual. And it didn't even look that bad to begin with. Like it, like it looked more natural than it does now. Now it, like, like Tim Heron tweeted something out today where he put a hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot of it. It's kind of like what we do with sawgrass, like 17 green. There where it just looks so unnatural. It is funny to me that people like, how could you like mess with this sacred monument? And you know, this is like holy ground.

Like do they used to play this course in a completely opposite fucking direction? There he's out now a hotel that shuts out in the middle of one of the holes. Like I don't know that sacred ground is quite what we're, like, this is a little bit overblown. It's a very extremely funny thing to take very seriously. I've had so many people replying,

I tweet, I'm like, chill out, man. Like, you need to, you know, like, you need to just relax. Like, the links trust is the caretaker of this. They're doing the best caretaker of this. They're doing the best that they can with this. I'm gonna give a shit. Yeah, that's, that's, do you think they put this out for a bid?

Like that the Murphy brothers from the down the road and the seniors get to do a assessment about what they thought it would cause? I can't imagine the paces that they would have gone through to source the stone to take bids. Like, if there's one thing like the links stress and the RNA and all that, they're not going to do it. Those are two very different things though.

Well, true, true, true. But even still, I don't think they're, they're going to go through the paces here and it's going to be very, very, very well thought out, which, which almost, I hate to say this for our friends at the links stress, but almost makes it funnier. thought out which which almost I hate to say this for our friends at the link stress, but almost makes it funnier. That like that, you know, you, it's just, I don't know, if you're going to let it, if you're going to let it ruin your day, I think, I think you need to reassess your priorities, but it is very funny and it does look very bad.

They should have like not closed the old Tom Moore, like the Tom Moore's golf shop there, right next to 18 green. Like there's other stuff that they've done. It's like in not keeping with the tradition of the place. I don't know. It's just you could just make it like pebbles too. I mean, it's not like there's someone's getting a lie off of that. And I was like, it was laying up short of the bridge. There to, you know, attack the 18th grade.

I feel like all they're doing is like extending out the muddy area too, right? Like people are just going to, like, there's a bunch of people that are standing around that, like waiting to take pictures. It's just going to extend the area out. So I don't know. Solid, anything this week in James Han land? No, I saw him a few times in passing and player dining. Did you say hi? I did not say hi. The ball is in his court. I've sent a request for him to come on the podcast and he's not replied. So I think the ball is in his court I've I've sent a request for him to come on the podcast and he's not replied

So I think the balls in his court, but I was I was like I'd spot for like hey I've given you a lot of shit on Twitter like hope we can laugh about it And we still would love to have you on the pod just you know as he's preparing for professional events So I got back down by James on you could say that that's fun So I took a little bit of spin through his Twitter just an anticipation of this Not a lot of activity in the Twitter just in anticipation of this. Not a lot of activity in the actual tweeting, but a lot of likes of like Elon Musk tweets and tweets defending Patrick Reed.

So about what you'd expect. I think I would say that the segment probably ruins the segment because I'm guessing that it's probably going to be the end of a lot of his tweets that are quite controversial. It's unfortunate. But he may have logged off very much so. I saw we have a Patrick Reed statement was made this week in response to the tree fiasco in Dubai last week. Did you not read this? This was a... Let's get back to golf, guys. This was a... I don't... man, I don't know where to start. He posted an

Instagram of a text message of a state that was that he sent to like, it was blue. So like, he sent it to somebody else, right? Or somebody, like, if somebody sent it to him, it would have been gray. So I don't know who's, I don't know who's phone. This is from I think just being texted it to him, but also set like screenshot it and text it him the screenshot. Allegedly. Yeah, this is all alleged. All of it. Of course. Uh, and it starts with some people love controversy. Says the guy whose wife allegedly, uh, has a burner account that goes off, goes after many, many, many, many other of the two games top players allegedly. But what happened at the 17th hole at the hero Dubai Desert Classic was a non-issue.

Oh, I don't even need to read the resume. Oh, of course. As the DP world tour confirmed, I was not asked to identify the tree, my ball struck. That was done by the shot league volunteers. And several marshals, he doesn't say this, but they were probably jiggling change in their pocket as well. I was asked to describe the distinctive markings on the ball I was playing. I am looking forward to this week's Asian tour flagship event at Royal

Greeds, which is such a fucking dystopian sentence. If I may just kind of break this down, he is saying just in the most non-admission of guilt denial ever, the volunteers told me what tree it was in. All they told me to do was like identify the specifics markings on my ball, which I did completely ignoring the fact that there's video evidence of his ball going into a different tree. You also said it's 100% mine. Definitely mine. Yes. 100% of all.

I don't know if we talked about this last week, but I don't know how you don't just pull another ball out of your bag and just say like, see, here's how I mark my ball. It's the same as that. How have they not put a bucket truck up in the tree to see if that ball's up there? I think you just want it to go away.

Yeah, that's everyone involved with that turnover just for sure that this is a European torrent. Why doesn't the European tour like they have no they have no allegiance to Patrick Reed at this level. I've never tried. I think the uh I think that rules of fish are already jacking Patrick. The rules official bung bungled it and like that's like they had to like cover it. It's so soft. Honestly, the rules official ought to like own house soft that that was like, that's where the, I get the Patrick Greedy's going to try to do what Patrick is going to try to do. Did like flirt with the very letter and spirit of the law. But the rules officials cannot just sort of roll over and be like, well, okay, if you say it's

100% your ball, like good for you. Let's just let's get back to the golf. I think we get all of it. It's crazy. It's crazy to me. In his statement, he says, I was not asked to identify the tree. My ball struck. I was asked to describe the distinctive markings on the ball. I was playing like in and he doesn't say I saw that ball up in the tree through the binoculars or anything like that. But he did say it's 100% my ball. So T.C. You got anything on on Bubba, say, and everyone knows the aces. That was great this week. I mean, well, and Mike, Mike Lorenzo Vera had a great tweet in response to all the read stuff. Again, this is Mike Lorenzo Vera's words, not my words. He said, I just don't understand how players stay silent after being robbed one spot by

someone that cheated. Fantastic golf player, but read fucking cheated. Four exclamation points. How can you identify 100% something very specific on your ball that is not in the tree? Three question marks. How is the guy not DQ? Four question marks. But let's just throw in a legend in there in case there was any confusion that it was someone

else's tweet you're reading allegedly you're reading in someone else's tweet. Yeah, I'm in on over punctuation too by the way. Michael, I'm just a friend, you know. Dej, could you read Shane Ryan's tweet about the forays? It's because it's just it really I enjoyed it. Yeah, this is one of my one of my favorite tweets in the week. This is into the context you've probably heard about it's just, uh, it really I enjoyed it. Uh, yeah, this is one of my, one of my favorite tweets of the week. This is into the context. You've probably heard about it by now, but, uh, this was Bubba's infamous quote about how he was having a conversation with his son watching, watching the golf and his son likes the aces because he also likes the

Yankees and the chiefs and all these other teams. And that was the moment when the light really went off for Bubba that like team golf is gonna be a thing. My son can really wrap his head around it, 10 year olds all over the world are gonna love the aces. Everyone knows the aces because they just keep winning everything and Shane Ryan, I appreciated him tweeting this. I don't expect a lot of sympathy for this,

but a hard part of being a golf writer is telling people what you do. And it'd being immediately hit with questions about the aces. Quote, do you know the aces? Have you met the aces? Can the aces win again? Golf is about more than the aces, folks. Just I feel like Shane Rye is leading back into being an expert troll, which I think is is where he really thrive.

His Twitter favorite sentence of humor. Literally like, hey, if this makes DJ pie laugh, that's, that's a success. I don't care. 50,000 people will be confused by this. If it makes DJ laugh, I'm going to tweet it. That's, I think my V. Right. It's just got right at my, right in my Q zone. Bubba also shouted out the stingers as well. He knew the aces, he knew the stingers, talking about his son. I think this is after Bubba had like was already in the... He was already leaked in one of the promos. Like, he clearly already signed his contract to be part of a little bit. Bubba was recruiting players a year ago in Saudi to play for a lift. Yeah. And then Bubba, there was a headline as well. Bubba Watson to beg Jay Monahan for a chance to play in the PNC,

the live golf players desperate to play in the tournament for the sake of his son. Like, why can't live just host their own like father son? I mean, I know like with custody schedules, it might be difficult to work out with all the divorces that going on, but like, you know, you could, you could definitely feel like live could have their own father son. It sounds like they might be hosting a couple of their own events. Oh, you want to do that? I don't know. I just, I feel like Liv could have their own father son. Sounds like they might be hosting a couple of their own events. Oh, you want to do that? I don't know. I just, I saw the little rumor float around about a gust of land purchase that was, I

don't know, even if that was reputable or not reputable, or if you guys have any more information on that. But it sounds very reputable. Just like, I think the core crenshault element of it was not reputable. Yeah, there's a, okay, so just setting the thing or so, a block of land just north of Augusta National that allegedly between 350 and 400 acres that allegedly live has is either under contract on or has purchased or is thinking about purchasing or something like that to build their own golf course and host an event again, maybe allegedly either before or after the masters, which I

saw the rumor floating around on some various track or adjacent accounts, yet also heard it from somebody at, somewhat local to the situation when I was here at the tournament this week that like kind of knew some, some facts behind the scenes that were like, whoa, or alleged facts behind the scenes that were like, oh, okay, well, that's very specific. So maybe think it is something there. Is the thought then that they're just gonna like build their own Augusta national and host their own like fake masters?

That sounds honestly extremely cool, man. I have way in on this. Like this is gonna be awesome if that is the case. Like they should just play it at that place we played in Myrtle Beach that had the replica holes. It's like, it's got a spoken bridge. Yeah, with no swall-s holes. And it's got a spoken bridge. Yeah, with no wall sack. It's got the real spoken bridge.

With a unique, unique smoking bridge. I will say like some of our people are, are people familiar with the area or Luke Boatwright was like, do the, the area that has been circled on this like map here is like thousands of acres. I don't know that this is quite the nailed down journalistically, that the way that people think it is. Yeah, I was talking to some people too. They were like, yeah, like the land cost on this unless the person selling this land

just got the best deal ever. Like they're paying like 14X, what an acre should cost in that area. So. That's on a on a save, winning in Saadi. Yeah, he won a Saudi over by two over Cam young. Lucas Herbert finished third. I'm not sure how he has not gone to live yet. And saw, uh, Sodom, Sodom finishing fourth in the middle of which one about that. Yeah, which

one. Yeah, that's true. As always, we don't know if it's Hayver or what of his lookalikes. Yeah, I legitimately honestly forgot Saudi was existing this week and I saw not one shot from it. One of my favorite beats I saw this week was like, oh, if Cameron Young won, you guys would have been slurping it. It was like really? Totally. Yeah, for sure.

Definitely. We were really high on Harold Varder go ahead and before he left for live last year, what do you want to that was off. Yeah, that was so that I could, could change everything. You celebrate. We had, we had MCs for, uh, Nicholson, Cam, Baba, Nah, Bryson, DJ W.D. It's a part 70 at Roe Greens. I feel like they're playing a lot of golf. No no, this TC move on. But people are not real greens. Augustus. We're 70. We know this. Okay.

Bro, bro, green should have a spoken bridge. Maybe maybe the Saudis buy the spoken bridge and repatriate it to air. Look, next you're going to tell me that 18 of real greens is a par five. TC, we know this. Okay. Let's move on. I'm telling you, Sully, how can I take this series? Nobody shot over 72 on Sunday, which is nuts.

It's crazy. No one ever does on Sunday at Royal Greens. It's easy pins. Yeah. Well, Sunday pins. Yeah. Get a ball and Royal Greens. They got all the all the emaciated players. Yeah. What's going on?

What's going on? I don't know, man. That was a very weird look, very, very weird look. He was, uh, yeah, looked, looked very gone, uh, but talking about how he was down to his, what do you say high school weight or college weight? Um, this fighting weight, his fighting weight and was just very bullish on his game. He keeps teasing, you know, all this vindication that's going to be coming out, uh, you know, everything's going to be justified. Just wait, just wait, all this vindication that's going to be coming out, you know, everything's

going to be justified. Just wait, just wait, just wait. If we're looking at the facts, it's, it's film is the cut in Saudi Arabia this week. That's just wait. Just wait. They're banking on more tools. I guess European tour events with PGA tour guys. He had a sick tweet about, you know, if there was a rider cup between Liv and PGA tour, like the PGA tour wouldn't, wouldn't allow it because they would crush the PGA tour guys so badly. Yeah. Yeah. There's one thing I think about with Phil, it's just rider cup. Just look right at this. I guess asking in the rider cup, he does so much of that. What, so I, this is not on the agenda, but people would kind of laugh when I threw this out that

maybe the live guys would not get champions dinner invites at the Masters. Like, wouldn't it be weird as fuck if they did get invites? Like who of the current guys would want to sit down with those guys and act like everything was fine at dinner, like with Patrick Reed and Phil? Like isn't that like what I thought you were talking about which of the live guys? Reed and Phil, like, isn't that, like, what do you think you're talking about, which of the live guys, I'm like, oh, all of you. Yeah, for sure. All of them would want to protect like that. For sure. But which like of the active players on the PGA tour would want to do that? And I'm guessing

that the Augusta is going to rather defer to them than, I don't know, I think we could be due for some drama for that dinner. I know it's kind of, it's kind of their dinner, right? It's not like the club's dinner. It's like their dinner. I know Jack's got a lot of a Saudi, yeah. You know golf course is going to be going to be talking best practices from rogue reads. God Gary player is going to try to mend all the fit. We need to come together for sure enough of this fighting. Both sides. Both sides stick here. We had some other random tour news. The tour is trying to ban nonmembers from playing in unauthorized events. I didn't read this story.

I need to catch up. Haven't they already done that? What's Ogletree and things like that? I think Ogletree was like... He was a corn fairy tour member. Yeah, he was like a conditional corn fairy guy. So it would be like, you know, guys that are that are PGA tour you even stuff like that. So I'm assuming like the the kid that goes to Arkansas, it seems live adjacent stuff like that.

Yeah, I don't know. Seems he seems not particularly legal. But that was my first thought too. They seem to be picking a few fights that are like, whoa, shit, guys, like that doesn't seem like the way to go here. I got to have a wiff you when it comes to top players that have agreed to participate in this, you know, pooled media rights thing. But yeah, I don't know about nonmembers. That seems not right. Yeah. The match play. This will be the last year in Austin. Sounds like it was kind of a shit show from a sponsorship perspective.

Dell hasn't been too keen on the match play element. There was a bit of match play. I didn't. Hard to feel too with sympathy for that one. Like maybe you could have read the brochure a little bit. Oh, I guess they put forth the idea of playing Strokeflare for the last 36 goals. And in Paul Casey said, well, what the fuck would you call it? Yeah, the tournament of champions. But yeah, it sounds like it was kind of like they were trying

to bring in Intel as like a presenting sponsor as well. And then the club sounds like there's just a lot of dynamics at Austin Country Club as well, where they weren't too keen on having the event. And so the Tour de Wet Radio silent on them was the quote. And yeah, so it sounds like it's not the end of the match play. It's the last gasp for the WGC, though, as we know them. Yeah. RIP.

And we've hinted at this. And again, we don't think we know RIP. And we've hinted at this. And again, we don't, I don't think we know anything more than what we've hinted, but like, don't be surprised if the schedule looks drastically, drastically different next year. I know we not even just talking about the elevated events, designated I'm so sorry, T.C. But like, could be drastically different.

And like, some stuff might just fall by the wayside. Would be the ideal match play course to put it out like that. Course really. But I mean, it was really good. Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was really good. I mean, very can't do this, but TPC sawgrass for any kind of match play event would be so sick.

Why can't you do that? Well, I just didn't you're not going to do the players and another. Why? Why not? I'll challenge you on that. Why not? Because it's there's only one gold standard, man. This is our tournament.

An overseen in a Bermuda match play. It would be like, I'd be in on that pretty sweet. Like even on Biel's article, there was a quote in there from somebody of like, yeah, like the thing about the 2023 schedule is it just gets us to 2024. It sounds like it's gonna be radically different. Hopefully.

I think in Adam Schupac were at the match play story, right? I've from remembering, right? And I thought he said the Houston event was slotting into that place on this schedule, which to your question, KVB, I like, well, why not just make that the match play? I think that would actually be kind of sick. That golf course would be fun. Jim Crane. Yeah, that's that's Strauss boy, right? So that's exactly right. He was here this week. I did not get to Rev Albo's with them. Unfortunately, there's an LPGA all access series saw that coming out. So we could probably talk about that in the context of the Netflix thing as well a couple weeks. We do that.

Q school, moving to sawgrass country club and in the die Valley course at the TBC sawgrass. I think that's cool news. Our neck of the way it's TC bringing back Q. We should try to find a bag. That'd be sick. You should try to qualify, solid. You hit that three way. Let me play as a four ball partner. I probably got to pick up with my partners in the hole. I probably got picked up with my partners in the hole. Uh, stream followers. Yeah. We're just, uh, just, just, just closing out the notebook here. Ryan Palmer won the Mr. Palmer award. Uh, it's actually, it's actually the, the Arnie award just tired of this, which seems

to be really disrespectful. Nepotism in golf is just insane. And Ryan Palmer's grandson was in a playoff on the corn fairy tour. It was. It flips on your son. I thought that was Holly Sonders son. It's her husband. Yeah, he lost a few.

Flips oners and the last one. He lost a few some coody. Uh, and playoff. He's fucking people up. Yeah, uh, they caught on corn fairy was plus three minus three was. Got into a playoff. She. This was down in Panama.

So it's on a Columbia this week. Conditions must have been really fucking tough. So. And that's all I got. Not to punt this to the very end, Kevin, but you had a wonderful first opening column. Your first writing with No-Lang Up, and you made an enormous career decision

to come make jokes about Saddam Hussein on the No-Ling-Up podcast. Like, talk us through that decision. Are you, how do we feel like a few days about this? Feel pretty good. Every boy's dream is to write for, you know, a place that hasn't published articles

in a couple of years. Total sandbox for you, man. Yeah, it was like, you would ever want to actually bug the Ashley bug to via GP. I do not know what that story, but me also don't look that for the thing. No, I am, I am really proud to be working with y'all. It's, it's, it's been a fun week so far just being in behind the curtain and laughing at the same stuff.

And again, I'm grateful for all the people who out there who welcomed me in and just made me already feel like I was part of the community and stuff. And we're going to have some fun stuff this year. We're going to write a lot about a lot of cool shit. was part of the community and stuff. And we're gonna have some fun stuff this year. We're gonna write a lot about a lot of cool shit. I'm gonna go to a lot of all the majors and some of the other big tournaments. And I think I'll be at Rivera next week.

And so I'll have some on the ground inside from there. And DGNI have talked about some cool narrative pods. And I know there'll be more of the look back kinda deep dive pods that's all I and I were doing that people seem to love and so we got lots of fun stuff coming. I just wanted to give a shout out as well to everyone that has supported us over the years and as members that have supported us

and kind of helped our business grow to the point where we are able to make a move like this and to bring Kevin into the fold and continue to provide that kind of stuff just goes right back into the company and into the content and into what has made this thing successful. And we owe it to everyone that supported us at every step. And that includes you, Kevin.

Like you were just an incredible supporter of us from all the way back to 2015. When I had no idea why ESPN journalists was like following us on Twitter and we sparked a friendship and it has led to this and we are incredibly excited and thankful to have you aboard. And there's some amazing things to come. I really do think so. That's our announcements for the year, by the way.

We had a lot come in the first couple of months here, but I think that's kind of it. Let's do it like, what's next? I'm like, dude, like, we do title us with the JT thing. We have Katie, I guess a lot, all right. Let's do it like, what's next? I'm like, dude, like we do title us with the JT thing. We have Katie, I guess a lot, all right. Let's just let us get into rhythm here. The hot stove is the hot stove is cooling. Yeah. Yeah, at this point.

Some day I'll tell the story about how two days after meeting Sully, I tried to get him up for golf at 5am to go play the council course in St. Enders. And you just wasn't having it. Apparently he had read Doke's confidential guide and was like, fuck the cops, of course, I'm not, I'm not getting out of bed for this. I have accepted so much slander for this. I only missed our T-time by eight hours.

That's so unfair. Like I got out of bed at 2 p.m. I was so close, we almost did it. It's pretty wild that like, you know, to open up Twitter or Instagram or whatever and like, mean a comms and write Thompson and like, you know, to open up Twitter or Instagram or whatever and like, mean, it comes and write Thompson and like, like big capital J journalists are like. Heavyweight's of this band. It's pretty, pretty surreal.

Yeah, we hired he has been senior writer away from them. Like, man, that's cool. So it was cool. But and also like it's credit to you guys that no one was like, what the fuck? Even my parents were like, no, this makes sense. Like, you know, this is cool. Like, I know this has been what you've been interested in for quite a while.

So that was those. And I think, you know, if Neil was here, he would be prodding us to promote. I think we're going to have Kevin on the NAS podcast in the coming probably weeks, coming days, coming weeks. I don't really know when you guys are recording that, but Ness members, that's a, it's an extra podcast we do every month for them. Some of Kevin's writing is going to be for Ness members only. I think there's a lot of people who are like, well,

I really enjoyed, you know, here in Kevin, reading Kevin right about football. And it's like, well, he wrote a Tom Brady thing this week about his retirement. That was, I think that one was actually open to everybody. But in the future, those would be for for Ness members. So, no only up.com slash join if you're interested. And to be clear, his golf content is gonna be where we, it's all gonna be in front of a pay wall. We're not throwing KVV behind the pay wall,

but he's gonna do some bonus stuff behind the pay wall. So, that's true. And we're gonna have have by monthly mailbags that if you're an S member, you can ask a question about literally anything. And I will answer it in the mailbag for the larger audience. And I've been pouring through those already. So if you're desperate to ask a question about literally

anything, I will answer it as I've been picking through some weirdo ones if you sickos already. And I think we got a good, good fun one. Look for that later this week. And then just looking back at content this week, Zalatoris and the, you know, you pod, vociferously supported the eye test.

I thought it was really, really cool. In like one little thing that wasn't even about like ignoring statistics, like you're trying too hard. The lady don't protest too much here. Listen, people go listen to it. You can be the, you can be the, I use the ear test on that one. Speaking of the I test, KVV Pooch, Randy and I got together for the NFL trap draw. I'm going to test.

I know. It's a lot of, a lot of Eagles fans coming at me. You know, that sort of thing. And then we posted the Cavendish film room over from Lennie as well. And upcoming TC or sorry, Randy and I are shopping this week. Got a guest pod on NLU up on Wednesday, and then we're working ahead for the week of the 14th. We're gonna do a big review of the Netflix full swing.

We're gonna be all we want to do in that. Only podcast, go for sure. Exactly. Well, go anywhere else except for us. Yeah, and we've got a JT stinky Jordan film room director's cut coming up, right? Yeah, kind of something we haven't really ever done before. I guess probably more like a reaction video that if I was going to use a horrible term than a, then a director's cut, but basically,

just there was a lot that got left on the cutting room floor. So I wanted to get Sally and Neil kind of back in the booth and just really dig into a couple of specific moments and play some more audio that didn't make it and stuff like that. So that'll be coming out this week too. And then last thing is just the sweetens are our house at sweetens. We've got passes going live this Friday, 6 p.m. Eastern 5 p.m. Central time. You can get guaranteed passes when you book the house, which is kind of a game changer for that place. Been tough to get passes the last few years. So.

I gotta say, I'm tempted to book some passes. You know, to get down there. My wife's gonna graduate from Vanderbilt, doctorate program soon. And I wanna go down there and play sweet and so I'm on it, maybe play without the shanks, which I had massively last time I played sweet and so. Was that where you had the club throw? No, that was black. No, that was, well, that was it black. Black.

A trip. Many, many people have been saying it's been, it's been five years since the historic thirsty cup. The committee was talking about maybe, you know, it's like the Eddie. Yeah, exactly. Maybe get it. Everybody. And that's how state watches space for their information. Exactly. Maybe get it. Everybody. And I watched this space for their information. Question for you guys real quick. Do you think there's going to be any like, so we got the Phoenix event this week? Is it going to feel different? I think this one's going to feel different.

I mean, this is the first one. I'm going to go out for the first three days of the tournament, I think, and just kind of soak up what I can. And I didn't think a couple of felt like different. And I think this one probably will. I'm hoping it does because I think if not, there's some serious problems going on. So I think it'll feel different. Do you? I do.

Yeah. I think it, you know, and it's super holy fair to it's going to be like in madhouse. Right. Yeah. And it's the trophy is on to not another rock. I'm not the Ros. I'll come out to. I wanted to say just closing thank you to many, most people were out to see Bill Murray, but the few NLU fans that were out there invests and hats

and things like that. Big thank you. And for all the tremendous nice messages we got this week on supporting the fun week I had. And for you guys for supporting it. And it was just a true, true, true thrill. And thanks for putting up with my stories and not let me go too far down the leaderboard on some of my shots. I got it. If you want to hear about it. No, we T12. We made the cut and get to play the final round. So I do think I probably

have a rain check somewhere to play pebble. I would assume. So I'll take the turn. I put that whenever I get a a chance. But well, congrats all happy for you. That was that was very fun to fall along. I know that was a that was a big one. That was that was a blast. So thanks a one for tuning in. We will see you back here at this time next week to recap the waste management. It's we were originally teased that we were going to be going live. It's going to be during the Super Bowl. So we're not going to go live. We're going to do a regular podcast. it'll be up from Monday of next week, but everyone, enjoy the week, enjoy Super Bowl week, and we'll see you back here next week. Cheers. That is better than most. How about in?

That is better than most. Better than most.