No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 651: Thursday Players Recap

Episode Date: March 10, 2023

It's Chad Ramey time! We go through our day at TPC Sawgrass for day one of the Players Championship, Morikawa, TPC Sawgrass, Spieth, JT, Max, down the rest of the leaderboard (of course), Ryan Armour'...s comments, and everything else from the day.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah! That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Expect anything different! Ladies and gentlemen, we are back yet again. The No-Lang-Up live show presented by our friends at High Nune, Take 2, we have absolved the technical difficulties.
Starting point is 00:00:38 I believe, please let us know if not. Sully here, KBV is here, hello Kevin. So I am great. I'm not. No problems at all, no issues whatsoever. People don't know, sometimes we do two takes, but when you do it live, you don't get that courtesy. He's definitely not on me, not because you hired me.
Starting point is 00:00:52 You didn't have to kill the budget for text, no, it's not me, my fault, no. TC is here, good evening TC. They were asking me, TC, are you projecting your voice? I cannot project my voice anymore, I'm projected, I'm fully projected. We're doing a live. We were not lying the first time around when we said that if you're listening on the podcast, you have no idea what happened. We had very, we had to restart the podcast on the
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Starting point is 00:02:28 Golf is upside down. Chad Ramey is leading the players championship after an eight under par 64. He had gains shots on the field. And two of his last 14 starts that were so far this season, KVU learned a fun fact about Chad Ramey today. Chad Ramey became a dad last week. His wife had a baby and that, I believe,
Starting point is 00:02:47 their son is named Nolan, he shared it. So he was saying that it was very excited to, but the golf didn't matter now. He could just play free and without, but, Tron, I believe you have a thought on this. Well, first of all, we could have a baby's young son. Oh my God! Oh my God!
Starting point is 00:03:04 The glorious madness is a pointless officially. Shout out to Joe Shelley. If he's listening, you are. And in a bunker somewhere. We hasn't been seen in years. So I don't know what's up with Josh. I think he's still getting paid millions of dollars there. I would know it.
Starting point is 00:03:15 The solenoly was so bad at his career, unfortunately. Well, you said it earlier that Chad Rami had a baby. Chad Rami's wife had a baby. It's very good. Yeah. That's great to have you. Thank you. Second go around. I think Chad Ramy was probably thrilled to get back to work
Starting point is 00:03:30 as a father of two myself. Father of three, yeah. You feel pretty worn down. You're starting to like work, starting to look pretty cool after a few days. You know what, I will go to range. Yeah. Hey, honey, I just need to clear my head.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I'm gonna go bang walls for like eight hours. You know what? What's going on my inbox? T.C. did say we're, you know, it's like, I guys are gonna need to, you know, partition off some time here this summer after we have the baby and he's like, not two weeks you're gonna be ready to get back. You're gonna be ready to, you're gonna be looking
Starting point is 00:03:56 for something to do in that time period. So he's consistent on that one. He gained 5.8 shots on the greens alone. How do you guys feel about the sustainability models as it comes to chickens? How many thousands of feet of pots did he make? 3,000 feet of pots, I believe it was. Actually, I can get you the number if you're interested.
Starting point is 00:04:12 It was 140 feet, nine inches of pots. It seems like a lot. Divide that by 18, that's almost, what is that eight-body feet per hole? Something like that, that's a lot. That's a lot. I believe I was goofing around on day to golf for the other day, but don't quite understand where I'm going.
Starting point is 00:04:24 So you still need that tutorial. But like the most, like in theing around day to golf the other day, but don't quite understand where I'm going. So you still need that tutorial. But like the most like in the era of day to golf, the most shots ever gained over a course of returnament is what like I think it's like eight over the like average to the whole like the most in a round. I believe like Paul Goydos had one that was just insane at the John Deere, the one year he shot six years. Was that maybe he's 259 that year?
Starting point is 00:04:43 I think it was. Yeah. And I believe also when Jim Fierrick shot 58, had a bunch, it was like, that was eight or something. Yes, exactly. So it's not the one of the greatest of all rounds of all time, buddy.
Starting point is 00:04:53 No, but it's up there. It's like a coal fired power plant. It's like completely unsustainable. What's he gonna say? Where is this going? All right. Good for him. You know, this is what we were talking about.
Starting point is 00:05:03 You know, I hope everybody's riding for Chad Raining that they ought to, all the people who were complaining that we were trying to cancel out Cinderella stories. I hope that they're out there. I hope the ratings crush it and the sustainability of professional golf just goes through the roof. You know, I think a win here will give it
Starting point is 00:05:18 PJ to another hundred years of runway. My wife is taking Freddie or Sun Out tomorrow. I told him that they have to go follow Chad Remy, Taylor Pendry. They can't follow any of the stars. I have to put their money where their mouth is and go follow these Cinderella stories. He's underdogs. I swear
Starting point is 00:05:35 we're not dumping as hard on Chad Remy. I have a few more Chad Remy facts just because I feel like, you know, is this first round leader? Sure. This is his debut in the tournament. He's one of 32 players making his debut. This is his debut in the tournament. He is one of 32 players making this debut. He is the 11th player to shoot 64 better in the first round of the players
Starting point is 00:05:51 championships since 1983. He's the first to do it since Jason Day in 2016. So that's a pretty, you know, we were talking a little bit, we didn't really feel like there was a 64 out there today. It's been a long time since there was a 64 period out there. So, you know, that's pretty amazing. Second lowest opening round by a player making his players debut ever. 63, Roberto Castro was the best. I remember that. That was sick.
Starting point is 00:06:15 This is his second lowest round ever on the BGA tour. It matches his low round of the season. He shot 64 in Hawaii. So, he's been having some good results at the Sony. He's certainly been trending. He hasn't broken 70 in nine rounds. Yeah. His 5.8 is almost in the top 100 of best strokes game
Starting point is 00:06:34 putting rounds in the since shot link came about in 2004. I knew it was a thing. I was I probably out of you know, prepped you for that. It being our data golf guy. But we don't quick do we have to worry about our data golf subscription? I feel like we have like seven or eight people They might be like Netflix and they're like you know You know, golf's gonna start cracking down. I think for the amount of free plugs. They get I think they're probably okay with it
Starting point is 00:06:58 but but he you know, he's he's all one once previously one the pros good puttcon of championship I always feel like it's a little bit sort of a dismissive when you know He saw one once previously, one the pros, put the kind of championship. I always feel like it's a little bit sort of dismissive when in and around after the round, they talked to him and were like, hey, you know, you've won out here before, so you know what it's like to win, but you know, it's obviously that wasn't a particularly strong field and whatever.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Which, oh man, it's still a big game to our field. I love that we could have the conversation we just had and then you can call someone else dismissive. He beat plumbers and firemen down in the Dominican Republic. It's like back to the future where you can do things better. It's like that around and change what you're thinking. But so I've struggled with this all day. I hate handicapping this tournament. I hate handicapping this golf course.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I think it's a tremendous golf course. I think it tests the right things. There's so much shot value out there. The bad shots are punished. The good shots are rewarded. Yeah, don't look at this leaderboard and it doesn't look like the top players in the world. And so TC, can you help explain that at all?
Starting point is 00:07:55 Yeah, I think there's two. I said it earlier, there's two things going on. I think first of all, it's round one, right? And guys are, there's some heavy weights lurking. You've got Moorakawa had a fantastic round today. You know, you got a lot of kind of flies in the ointment there. But also, I think it's probably reflective too of the rank and file PGA tour events.
Starting point is 00:08:19 We've been talking a lot about the rank and file PGA tour players, but the rank and file PGA tour events may not put an emphasis on the most well-rounded stuff. It's more skewed towards driving distance and probably some long iron, some wedge play as well, and then a hot putter. And it feels like this is much more of a test of well-rounded game, and you're going to get some weird wacky shit that happens in a smaller sample size, but I think as we get deeper and deeper into this tournament, we'll see that kind of level out and some of the cream rise to the top,
Starting point is 00:08:51 not no offense to anyone on the board right now. But also, it is refreshing that, every few years you get somebody that kind of like, shit, like Colt Noes, you know, back in 2015 or 2016, you know, like guys like that, you know, back 2015 or 2016. You know, like guys like that, it's truly a level playing field at TPC Sawgrass.
Starting point is 00:09:11 When driving distance is not a prerequisite, golf looks a lot different, even at the highest level. I mean, we see that at the Dell Match Play and I don't know where Sawgrass ranks in terms of, you know, where on the scale of driving distance it is. It's just slightly below average, It's not like an enormous outlier on driving distance, I think, but yeah, it ends up with a very confusing leaderboard.
Starting point is 00:09:30 I will say too that we were talking to some players this week in some of the players who were sort of, you know, in the lower-steerage classes of P2 Tour. And one of them- Lower-steerage classes. One of the things that someone sort of said in the conversation we're having is like, you know, this is a big week for like the top players, but it's a big week too for the
Starting point is 00:09:47 lower extremists because they're playing for a $25 million purse. Like that's the biggest purse they're going to play for in their life. Most of those guys aren't in the majors. They're, you know, and they, they're only chance to sort of really, you know, make a big payday. It's like when you're in Uncle Buck, when you've got to go make his one big payday at the track, you know, like that's, hey, you know, this is our chance. And so they, they geared up towards this week. So maybe if you haven't been playing well, but it's track. Like, hey, this is our chance. And so they gear up towards this week.
Starting point is 00:10:06 So maybe, if you haven't been playing well, but it's all something like, man, this is the moment where I'm actually like make my rise through the ranks. The guys that are projected to make the cut on the number are projected for $56,728 this week. I mean, anyone in the top 40 is making more than 100K this week. Top five places pay out more than $1 million.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Like there's a shit ton on the line here. Top 40 is making more than 100k this week. Top five places pay out more than a million dollars. There's a shit ton on the line here. It is weird to have the first players actually be, I mean, we've talked a lot about what live has done to golf and we're not going to start the live conversation here. But this is the first player since I've followed the tournament where it is not the best field in golf. It is not. It is truly not, right?
Starting point is 00:10:43 I mean, we're going to see that in the majors this year, but it is the first time in the designated events have gotten better. Like all of those events have their fields have noticeably gotten better and the players has come down officially. Like, we just don't have all the top 100 players in the world playing in this tournament right now. It's a little weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Cam Smith is playing down the street, but the yards. That's right. That's what we heard. We can talk about all the designated non-designation stuff on the back. We'll talk about players. But I do think it'll be easy. But you feel that a little bit in this tournament, right?
Starting point is 00:11:12 We're like, all right, like what's going to happen next year if we have these the designated events are 70 or 80 guys. And then we come to the players, which is supposed to be a bigger deal than those. And it has more players and more rank and file. It, you, you, it's more a cow of comments. The Threadman KVV went, went after it on Twitter. The, the Taylor, I believe is some people are calling you as well. But if that's much better, if you like the Taylor more, that just means it's going to be the Threadman.
Starting point is 00:11:35 It's going to be the nicknames. Okay. Don't call me the Taylor. So, uh, what, what do you have to say about more? A cow is seven under par 65 today. Uh, yeah, I will walk a little, just a couple of holes with him. And I knew sort of I had been thinking on a take about him because I sort of had seen him talk about how, look, he was basically getting back to just doing what he does.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Great, which is picking my line. I'm hitting a baby fade. It's, you know, it's going to hold that line until it sort of just curves a little bit right towards pin. And he kind of was looking around last year at JT and seeing like, oh man, I want to be like a complete player. I want to do what Tiger does, you know, and trying to be like Tiger is probably destroyed a lot of guys swings or as messed them up in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 00:12:18 And so he was trying to hit draws. He was trying to sort of be able to work the ball both ways, get to some different pins like just, you know, maybe not have the struggles in the wind that he he had sometimes and it kind of like messed with his swing DNA a little bit And so he was very like adamant after he missed the cut at the normal Palmer was like a good thing for him He went home to be interesting of the cut conversation to post on point about this But he went he showed up at sawgrass on Sunday and was like I go into the to the back of the range, like where I can be all alone. And I am just going to beat balls for like two hours. And he said he hit like five or six bags, came back again, did it the next day.
Starting point is 00:12:51 And he was just like trying to re-groove in like, I am going to hit a fade. I do not care what the pin is. I do not care what the start line, what the coal calls for. I'm going to hit this shot that I trust, probably with some exceptions, but for the most part. And all of a sudden, he was like, man, I feel like it's 2019 again. My swing feels like it's back to. And so he's pretty excited about it. I will see if the elements kind of mess with that a little bit tomorrow. But he's, I think maybe sometimes you can have a good putting around that fools yourself into the thing a little bit. It was great. Because the eagle that he made, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:27 with somebody I think correctly pointed out in my thread, like, it was a little wipey. Like it wasn't quite. He didn't have it like perfectly. You kind of kind of got a good break. But, you know, he made a lot of putts too and all of a sudden, like shooting six, I mean, he did make that many putts. He was plus one on the green. So like it's not again, it's he was number one is Jokeskin approached by more than a shot. He was 4.2 today. He was plus one on the green. It's not an, again, he was number one in Stroke's Game approach
Starting point is 00:13:45 by more than a shot. He was 4.2 today. That's an absurd ball striking round. That's insane. And I'm amazed looking back at, I feel like we've gone through this arc with Morakawa of, he won the two majors, he had, he won some other big events as well.
Starting point is 00:13:58 And when he stopped winning them, it was like, dude, what's a little bit of what's wrong with Morakawa? His numbers are still incredibly consistent. In terms of what he does off the dude, what's kind of a little bit of what's wrong with Morakawa. His numbers are still incredibly consistent in terms of what he does off the tee, what he does approach. I'm just going to go back to 2019 and list off his strokes game approach in every season plus 1.04 plus 1.04 plus 1.12 plus point nine last year. You fell by point two shots. And so far this year plus 1.09. Like he's been the same exact iron player. The off the
Starting point is 00:14:25 T game has actually gotten a little bit better. The puttings even gotten a little better. Like it's adding up to his to so far this year has been his best strokes game season to date. It may come down to the eye test. I don't know what that means, but it's sure. I don't know what that means. But you know, he's already won like six majors in my book. Well, yeah, you of course predict him to win eight, right? Yeah, almost there. If he wins this, he's easy.
Starting point is 00:14:50 He wins this, he's at least. He's there to three, although we don't have ice in the cooler. We did not put ice in the Yeti. This is not a major officially. Also, it kind of smells a little bit funny from the last time we were here, I think. So we did not go steep on that one. But yeah, I mean, his name's obviously popping off.
Starting point is 00:15:06 The leaderboard, I feel like I've picked him each of the last two years here because it should be a freaking perfect golf course form and I don't know why it hasn't been. But I think I even said that on the preview plot. I was like, I don't know, he kind of struggles here and sure enough, that's why I hate trying to predict who's gonna play well at this course.
Starting point is 00:15:20 He was a little... I don't know, like on two or some of those holes where like you do have to work the ball both ways in certain spots. He was a little ch He was a little... I don't know, like on two or some of those holes where like you do have to work the ball both ways in certain spots. He was a little chippy when people were bringing up the results as he can sometimes get. He's like, yeah, I mean, people are really focusing a lot on the results. I don't really, you know, I only played her twice. Like, you know, last year was weird year.
Starting point is 00:15:37 The other year was my first year, so, you know, I kind of like maybe that he's got a little ornery in him, you know? I wish he was chippy-er. I wish he was like, who would do it let people in a little bit more? It's obviously like super smart guy, but I think it's sort of tweeted about this. Like his personality is kind of reflection of his golf game. Like it's just sort of steady, disciplined, efficient.
Starting point is 00:15:56 It doesn't ever give you anything. I mean, Todd Dosed is interviewing him on the golf channel, you know, just after Round and he started saying, you know, well, you know, kind of you tell me what you're working on and workout is like, and Todd's like, well, you don't have to give away all your trade secrets. He's like, oh, I'm not gonna tell you whatever. It's like, dude, like, what are you gonna be like?
Starting point is 00:16:12 Oh, yeah, I hit a fade and then like somebody's watching but, oh, I'm gonna steal, calm Mark, I was hitting a fade. Now, I think that's probably like, he doesn't want them to like hone in on that to become a thing. Like, oh, he's, you know, he's working on this. All that means he's struggling with this
Starting point is 00:16:24 and then he's gonna get asked about it again tomorrow. Like, how are you addressing your chipping and blah, blah, blah. I think he's given away so much what he's, he walks you through what he's got going on with putter, what he's got going on with the short game, what he had going on in Cavaloo with the chipping action and all that stuff and it gets to a point where it's like, dude, you'll flip on live from and brandels breaking down
Starting point is 00:16:42 is putting technique and all that stuff. I'm sure he's just like, the more you offer up, the more it's gonna get critiqued a little bit and probably doesn't get rewarded. I remember asked, I have to speed that one. So I was like, do you feel like every like you talk too much? He was like, oh yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:16:53 He's like, they pretty much opens you up to like all kinds of criticism. He's like, that's gonna change. It didn't change. It's like a choose your own adventure. Like, all right, what do I want to be asked about? I'm like, you could almost use that to your advantage, though. Yeah, I'm putting some of the best in my life right now, and your putting strokes
Starting point is 00:17:12 are awful. So people start asking you about that and almost rule it into existence. Like you with your driving, the generational driving. You guys should see the way. He was talking about today. He was like, I am just murdering the ball. I was like, wow. Um, rounding out the top five right now, we have Taylor Pendrath T three. Justin saw is looking at a 28 foot eagle putt on 16 and he is five under as well. Ben Griffin is five under men. Woolie, Adam is fencing Christian, Biseiden hope, Denny McCarthy all in the top six. It does tell you that there was a long, long way to go with this golf tournament. But last year was a weird leader board.
Starting point is 00:17:49 I mean, it was a super weird weather year, but it was a very weird results in this tournament last year or two. It was pretty benign out there. The wind kind of switched around midday. It was coming out of the Northeast and then it started coming out of the southeast. It kind of cooled off around midday too, but Minwool Lee had all sorts of shit going on with his leg. You hit a cramp.
Starting point is 00:18:08 You hit him with your favorite jiff ever, the soccer player getting the, what is that shot? What is the, it's like a numbing spray. Yeah, he needed a little bit of that because he had a cramp going on there. But what else, what jumped off the page for what you guys, what you guys saw out there in person? It's again, like 64 or 65, 66, those are really good rounds.
Starting point is 00:18:30 It seemed like par was not a great score, but like anything under par today was good. So to see those guys, I'll be shocked if those guys can keep up the pace. I think, what do you got to think? Like, I think probably six or seven under is probably leading. Yeah, after tomorrow. I would, I would think so.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Probably supposed to have some thunderstorms in the afternoon. It's supposed to be cloudy in the morning. The showers have kind of fallen off of the forecast for tomorrow morning. So I think we're good there. But and not too too gusty until the thunderstorms roll around. I walked a little with speed and JT in the, Max and it was fun to sort of see them manage their emotions a little bit. JT who's pretty frustrated out there and as someone who gets frustrated myself, which is documented on film coming up soon.
Starting point is 00:19:18 You will see, man. No! JT and I, we have some history, but we are very emotionally, but we're very, I'm like, emotionally, apparently we are very similar golfers. He's able to control it better than I am, so, you know, we'll see. But he was, he was obviously very hot
Starting point is 00:19:33 under the collar a little bit. I feel like you get it out though. Okay. He just lets it simmer and he just gets that resting bitch for this go. I'm gonna grab another hand here. I get you one. I see. What do you want? I get one. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:19:45 21. I gotta say, Scotty Schuffler, you know, probably okay, hanging around. He's my pick. We've been asking, you know, what would be the nickname for Scotty? A guy who covers, you know, sports out in Montana, shout out to me and Cody.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Victor Flores came up with, I think, a great name. We should call him the Bobber. You know, when everybody goes like, you know, used to go out fishing when they were a kid, you'd put a little Bobber on your things, you'd see if he just rises to the surface. He's smaller than the Booy, but he's, I think the Bobber's a sick name.
Starting point is 00:20:16 So strike the Booy. Thank you, Victor for that. The problem with that is so many people call Ram the Booy. I just, I think it's gonna be confusing for most of the world, really. I mean, at this point, 8 billion people, I think it's just going to be hard to keep that straight.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Pretty wild. It's currently like four and a half or five to one to win. And he's three, four back after round one. But I think it's, right, right, Remy's 35 to one and Morakow is like three to one right now. What would you have to do, you know, what would the odds have to be for YouTube one to bet on Chad Remy to win this tournament? Like right now.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Yeah. It would have to be at least 150 to 150 to one. Well, sort of got, no, I'm not. Let's get my kick. 150 to one. I mean, he could go on unbelievable heaters. Could be his Craig Perks heater. All right, you wanna hear the last few times.
Starting point is 00:21:03 He's kind of going out and got it in round one. Yeah, hit me. It's not it's not good. Uh, he uh, is he like an a guerrilla situation? AT&T Pebble Beach Pro Am back in February. Yeah. 65, 76, 73, 75. Now, granted, that's on different golf courses and whatnot. Sony shot 6870. He did play well in Vegas. He shot at the Shriners 6766 and then cooled off on the weekend. But there's just nothing to indicate. I I I teed this up. It's too much fun stuff happened today to be going down the results page of Chad
Starting point is 00:21:37 Remy right now. Let's go. We're going to hunt it back in on some of the golf we saw today. I'm going to try to rain. He wins. Goes from a hundred and 74th in the FedEx Cup to 20th. You win the players and you're going to get to 20th. I believe he'll be maintaining status if that comes, uh, comes about Roy Maccawroy,
Starting point is 00:21:55 three over par, uh, four over par 76 today. Um, just there was a huge say they opened up live from tonight or golf center, whatever it was. Breaking it down Roy for about 10 minutes here saying he's overdone it. He's that, you know, he's he's fatigued. As Paul McGinley was saying he is fatigued. Are we buying that at all? I mean, I think you're allowed to have a sort of an off week, right?
Starting point is 00:22:17 I mean, Roy did say like he would like to get back to, you know, just focusing on golf. And so maybe what he needs is kind of a week off. I don't know if it's going to be, you'd have to probably shoot a pretty good score tomorrow to get to one under or think one over, which might be the cut line, look like. So I don't want to beg on him too hard, just because it's not a golf course where he's had
Starting point is 00:22:38 like a ton of success. Obviously one here wants, but it's not a place where like he's just show up and be like, yeah, I've seen him keep WD plenty of, or not WD, but like, it's a trunk slam here several times that I've been covering the tournament. He's done that. So, you know, I don't know. I mean, he's, he's been putting a lot into like seven hour meetings to start talking to
Starting point is 00:22:56 the players. I mean, to sort of rehash that stuff, but he's been working hard for whether you agree or not, like the tour is reflecting a lot of what his vision is. And so, yeah, maybe now he will get a chance to focus on golf. And maybe that starts tomorrow. He worked hard on the range after the round. He stuck around and he stuck around Wednesday. He played nine holes. We walked a few holes of the yesterday. And we're he just stood by the green talking for another 30 minutes, probably after he finished. Well, as we're walking
Starting point is 00:23:20 off, I'm like, I like, dude, how are you doing? Like how's your energy? He's like, I'm fine. Like I'm fine. I'm fine. But he really was walking off, I'm like, I like, dude, how are you doing? Like, how's your energy? He's like, I'm fine. Like, I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. But he really was totally like, dude, I'm not, a waste management, he looked a little fatigued. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:33 And it felt like, I don't know if the good week at Bay Hill kind of reenergized him or what not, but he's, he seems right- Try to trick himself into thinking he's fine. No, he really did seem, I mean, he just, you can tell when somebody's trying to get away from a conversation and it wasn't that at all. I mean, he was talking about anything under the
Starting point is 00:23:46 sun and wasn't really necessarily even all the stuff that people were talking about. I think tomorrow will be a fun round to go watch him where it's, he's off late. And it's either like, I think he's going to be going at pins and trying to shoot 65 tomorrow, right? It's going to be, hey, I need to shoot my way back into this tournament or go out and it plays a glory. That's a fun round to watch, I think. A little frustrated with a driver. It's some comments after the round about it. He did.
Starting point is 00:24:09 His comment said, he said, yeah, obviously I went to that new driver in Riviera and it's not, you know, yeah, look, I wish I could use my driver from last year, but I just can't because of use a driver for so long. It starts to get a little too, basically it wouldn't pass the test. So he's basically hit that, that's end quote, basically. He said the driver, he said it too many times that the face wears a little bit thin and doesn't pass the COR test
Starting point is 00:24:30 and he then continues, he said the driver heads are so finicky. It's hard to get one exactly the same. Yeah, I mean, I'm obviously I'm trying my best, trying to get something that's as close to what I had last year. Yeah, just struggle a little bit off the tee the last couple of weeks. But if you look at, I mean, today, I don't know, again,
Starting point is 00:24:44 it's a summary of all of your tee shots, not just your drivers, you hit, but he gained shots off the tee the last couple of weeks. But if you look at it, I mean, today, I don't know, again, it's a summary of all of your tee shots, not just your drivers you have, but he gained shots off the tee today. He was positive stroke off the tee, which is a lot. It was around the greens and putting, he lost five and a half shots there, which on this golf course, though, can be a miss in the wrong spot, can really affect your stroke scheme around the greens because you can end up on a mogul or a bunker that's just totally dead. Strokes game doesn't really evaluate that. So we're trying to say fun pins out there today too. There were some really good. And on 16 was far and the pen on four was fine.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Front right pin on four and the thinnest part of the green led to some really get a take on a lot of risk with the approach shots. JT from the middle of the fairway pushed his out to the right. He's in the rough gets way too much ball chips it back into the water has to re hit from the same spot almost hold the next one. But that was just like man, there were so many shots we saw. We watched JT on nine today. He hits a fairway wood out of the, you know, from the fairway from,
Starting point is 00:25:36 from way back trying to get on the green, but kind of bails it out to the right, pushes to the right. It fades on him. And it's just a golf course man. We're like, there's just a trade off for everything. Like you want a bail here? Here's what you're going to deal with. You're on the downside of these moguls.
Starting point is 00:25:49 These are not mounds around the greens. These are huge moguls that I'm not sure how well that pops on TV, but you're watching one of the best short game guys around the world trying to get one to stay on the green from green side on a par five. Couldn't do it. Goes in the bunker. Chips the next one. He's totally dead. And from the left bunker, chipping on a downslope to't do it. Goes in the bunker. Chips the next one. He's totally dead.
Starting point is 00:26:05 And from the left bunker, chipping on a downslope to that pan, goes way past makes bogey from the middle of fairway. Like that was TPC sawgrass in a nutshell. Yeah, I saw Jason Daytry. He was playing really well. He had it to four under. He was trying to hit like just a basic punch out
Starting point is 00:26:17 from the kind of woods on 16. He kidded and just kept running, running, running into the water. Like when even punchouts are hard, it's kind of the shows you what the golf course attacks. Max almost running into the water. Like when even punchouts are hard, it's kind of the chosen whether golf course attacks. Max almost punched into the water on 11. And he almost drove it in the water on 9. Like it's just a lot going on with that golf course right now.
Starting point is 00:26:33 A lot to talk about here. But again, our friends at Roeback are back for another year. I have a good, this is not in the copy as well. We have long ragged on Troy Merritt for a long time for his fits. I want to thank Roeback for the profit. I want to thank Roeback because he has fitted out in Roeback now. I saw Troy Merritt for a long time for his fits. I want to thank Robac for the profit. I want to thank Robac because he has fitted out in Robac now. I saw Troy Merritt and I didn't almost didn't recognize him because it didn't, you know, it wasn't the bad shirts
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Starting point is 00:27:05 A bird's hat on it. Listen, that's not rowbacks fault, but that happened a little bit, so I'm not wearing it right now. That's good luck, you know? I did not know that. Oh yeah, yeah. It's like that's just something people tell you.
Starting point is 00:27:15 It's like, oh, a raid on her wedding day. That's good luck. No, it's not. No, I think in Italian culture, it's like good luck. Oh really, how'd the first live show go tonight? I don't think our luck is really, is really been very good. How's it going now? It's going great. Thank you, KVB. The performance hoodies are
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Starting point is 00:27:58 So what else did you guys see today that was not worthy? I got a few other things if you'll have me. Please, I thought the pin on 17, we were me. Please, I thought the pin on 17, we were talking about pins, I thought the pin on 17 was awesome. Pin on 17 on the front was really good. It was just seemed like a very fair trade off. There were some really accessible pins on some of the holes
Starting point is 00:28:15 that we execute the shots and the pin back right on eight today was like, dude, good, I think at one point the closest ball day was like 25 feet, I don't know if it ended up finishing that way, but love it. It's not the best home. It's not the best home, of course. It like 25 feet. I don't know if it ended up finishing that way, but love it. I'm sorry. It's not the best home. It's just so, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:29 It's so long. It's so hard. You're going to get to 240 into that. I mean, with a pianist like talk behind the bunker, come on. I don't know. You need one good, like, you need one good meaty par three. It's not, I don't think it's brilliantly designed. You know, there's not a whole lot to the whole, but I don't know
Starting point is 00:28:45 You got to have one. Well, they got 13 and 17 are both really kind of short par 3s and 3s kind of a mid- I get the idea behind it It's not like the most fun hold-a-watch though, but it's a you know, a test you gotta pass. You gotta like step up Yeah, I can hit a shot. I mean we saw two radically different groups come through like Zalatoris, Zalatoris, Zander and Kidiama, and none of them even sniffed the green. And then JT, Spieth and Max come through and all three of them hit it to 30 feet and like they were great shots.
Starting point is 00:29:22 I think I finally this the point where, when I watch, when I see Max in a feature group like this, it doesn't feel like a promotion. It's like, oh yeah, he's one of those dudes. I know he doesn't have the major titles to hang with JT and speed, but like how he's been beating them at golf for the better part of a year, year and a half now, if you will. And it just, at no point did I what I like.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Oh, this is like, let's see if Max has it. See if he can hang with the big boys. Like, no, he is, he is one of those dudes. JT and Jordan were walking like deep in conversation when I was walking with him and Max kind of by himself. And I wanted to be like, oh, walk with you if you want to be your buddy. You need a buddy.
Starting point is 00:29:56 This could be our Netflix show here. Like, Max has the sound when he hits like long lines. It has like a reverberating sound that you watch a couple other groups come through. Like we can kind of get used to it when we've watched him as much as we have, but like watch a few other groups come through
Starting point is 00:30:11 and then like Max's group comes through. It's like, oh man, like he sends the crowd into the U and A. I mean, maybe he's just got more, you know, he's got more people following him now. But his like low fade is so cool to watch in person. Like it's just, it's such a, you know, people talk about a slingy draw. It's like a slingy fade.
Starting point is 00:30:29 It is. It's really beautiful to watch. Um, and guys, I have to say it. I like what I'm seeing out of Jordan's feet. I'm not afraid to say, I'm not afraid to tweet about it. I don't care what you haters have to say about it. I will tweet about it. I will have my voice heard about this, okay?
Starting point is 00:30:44 You get some great shots today. I actually stopped myself though. He birdied 10, 11, and 12. I was like, this is when I would usually send the tweet. And I know it's gonna happen. He hits it over 13 green. And I was like, and he hits this pitch, off a downslope out of semi-ruff,
Starting point is 00:30:58 landing on a downslope, getting onto the green and it's all downhill from there. And I still don't understand how he spun it. Like it was the kind of golf shot that like I'll think about like tonight as I, and it's kind of golf shot that you get only in person experience, right? Like if you saw that on TV,
Starting point is 00:31:14 it wouldn't look like anything. I would not have been amazed at a ball kind of checking up a little bit, but I saw how far he was leaning on that front foot and how easy he made it look to spin one and hold it and it went down to six and a half feet. He made the putt and I was like, that was the bogey that he would have made if I had it tweeted.
Starting point is 00:31:29 So I fired off now. Bogey 14, bogey the next all. I still got it. I'm still the cooler made an awesome birdie though and 16 shot three under par and he looks good. I think his birdie that bunker shot he hit on 11, maybe the shot of the tournament so far. Like that was to be able to hit that to Two feet or whatever it was at
Starting point is 00:31:48 I was so far back. Yeah, and up on that little ledge. Oh my god go find that if you haven't seen it yet What I had a nine out of the pine straw was yeah, he had 37 yards to the whole on the 11th and hit it to one feet five inches Like it was up it was up over a ridge down to a hollow and up another ridge to a back pan. They went to a foot. So if you read my little thread on Twitter, if you're listening to whatever I was talking about the difference between artists and mechanics and how more cow is kind of a mechanic. Like he can do like his best golf has played when he's like sort of doing the same thing over and over the discipline, the sort of willingness to trust what he's, speed is an artist. Like he's an artist in the same way that like, Sevi was an artist.
Starting point is 00:32:25 And it probably has not a lot in common in any way with Sevi in terms of the personality, but man, they both see like this canvas of just like, all right, I can do this like unbelievable crazy thing. I don't have to sort of play this sort of discipline safe shot because that's not how my brain works. I don't know shit about the golf swing. I don't know how to critique pro's golf swings at all.
Starting point is 00:32:43 So that's the preface, but I like where speed's got it slotted right now. I feel like he works really hard to figure out where the slot is and I don't feel like he's laboring it, get it in the right spot. I watched him hit a wedge into one today. It was just like, oh, dude, that looks exactly like how you're supposed to swing a golf club.
Starting point is 00:32:57 And I've not felt that way watching him very frequently over the last couple years. I know this from hearing him. I'm not a next-door of the golf swing either, but he was talking about how he was working on those weird changes at the beginning of the year where he felt like his elbow was flying out too much, so he was trying to get it sort of more collapse. And now, yeah, connected. He's now, he feels more comfortable with that. It's honestly, we went DJ and I were at a title issue with him prior to Riviera.
Starting point is 00:33:20 I think this content will come out eventually, but titles did a little thing where they had DJ interview speak about how do you hit like a draw? How do you hit a fade? Whatever. It was the most amazing. To be clear, our DJ fans. Our DJ fans. Not Dustin Johnson.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Sorry, sorry. There's that, because there's that epic Dustin Johnson. So the key to the thing is, hey, you got to fade it. But he, I mean, spieth broke it down. Like this is how Hogan would hit a draw. And that's kind of how I do and this is how Tiger does it And I realize that I'm not that kind of person. I have to sort of just turn through this
Starting point is 00:33:50 I mean, I couldn't explain it in a great way But if you are someone who like obsesses about the golf swing you were going to just absolutely geek out over the way that he talks about it Because it's like listening to frickin Picasso talk about like this is how I paint, you know, this is what I do He speaks the best. Um, it is, it's ball striking numbers were not insanely good today, but he just, you know, we're just, we're just trying to dick the eye test. The eye test was really good on his ball striking, but his punting numbers were good. He gained over two shots on the greens today.
Starting point is 00:34:18 It looked way more comfortable. TC, I gotta give you credit. You were saying he's got to get off Poa, got to get off the West Coast or whatnot. I didn't think he looked good on the permuda. Last week at Pay Hill, but this looks a lot better. And I hope it's... But he said those were just misreads. It wasn't the stroke last week.
Starting point is 00:34:32 He was like, I hit the ball exactly where I was trying to. I just couldn't have been a creditor. I'm sorry, what is the grass? Is it a pass-pellum? It's right on top of Bermuda. It's mostly right on there, right? But you can see that there's been such a hot winter here that the Bermuda's really coming through, especially in the rough areas where they've
Starting point is 00:34:47 got it in mode down a little bit. It's like you can a bulk in nest on the bottom of that permuda. They did call it today on ESPN plus. They said it's invisible green. I actually think it is visible because if you look at the greens now, they're shine in the different areas. Yeah, like there's grain there. You can't see it, it's invisible, but there's grain there. And it's like, I don't think it's there. Like it's either there or it's not. And if there's grain, you can see it. And if there's not, you can't.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I will disagree with that because I think when greens get top dressed a little bit or get tied in any pot in any way or any kind of green fertilizer that gets laid on them that you can't see the way the grass is laying, I lose my shit on Bermuda. I can't find the grain. You can get near the hole and see where the rough edge of it is. If you don't play on Bermuda, you probably have no idea what we're talking about here.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Grass tends to lay down in specific ways on Bermuda, and when you can see it, it makes pudding super easy, insanely easy, I think. When you can tell exactly what the grain is doing, it helps you with tie breakers on what you think a putt is gonna do. And when it's hidden, it is freaky. And that's why you'll see guys when they get really confused on some putts, it might be like you, in certain times, you cannot see the grain. I just tried to just try not to play golf on Bermuda. I just got a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I've gotten, I love Bermuda now. I've gotten, I don't like chipping off of it, but I love putting on it. I gotta be honest, guys, I just try to look at the line. I don't take what the grass at all You might want me to think about it. We were a little more than just just to knock off I feel bad killer Pendereth shot 67 I did I said these I said all these then Griffin's story cannot be told enough like It's what is it?
Starting point is 00:36:24 Listen, he's out there, he's doing it. I don't require, no exactly what it was. He basically gave up the gaming, he was like selling insurance. Like, people are saying, Mr. TC, have you heard of this paragraph? Apparently, I guess it cannot be told enough because I still don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Do you remember? I remember. Uh. Sam Burns, how about showing up on the board? What a story. His story cannot be told in a lot Justin suck Yeah, I think they should look at a potential penalty for him overnight here tonight. Let's look at the video The tours social account. Okay, just for clarity sake bit of a comedic bit on your part is backstopp against it
Starting point is 00:36:59 Like it's not a fucking field. It's not a penalty. Just be clear We're not sitting people to go review his shot other than to say it was a cheesy rule. I like Justin so I think he's a great player and he's got a fantastic career ahead of him. But the guy in your group needs to mark his fucking ball if it's a foot from the hole. I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:37:16 In the way out of a bunker, it's ridiculous. It's not a, just for the people that do not know the rules that I'm clarifying. It's a respect for the field. Hold up, let him cook. Let him cook. It is not a rule violation to backstop. It's just coming.
Starting point is 00:37:28 It's only a rule violation to collude. Correct. To have an agreement unspoken or spoken. We don't know if it should be a penalty. Investigate whether or not there was an unspoken agreement is what you're asking them to do. Yes, correct. And get to the bottom of a bend grip and story
Starting point is 00:37:43 while you're at it. I'm going to go talk to a bendith and I'm going to be like, people keep telling me that your story can't be told enough. So let's tell it. Let's get into it right now. No, San Burns. I want to talk about San Burns. He's been kind of stinky for a while.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Not been great this year. And so for me, to Burns. A pretty good little bit of a show. And not showing up alive again. I mean, San Burns is like, you know, look like a future star. A lot of times earlier in his career. So I'm happy to see him getting back.
Starting point is 00:38:08 He's got a super way out of line, Stroke's getting approached, going on. He had a horrible, horrible week last week. He lost four and a half, almost four and a half shots on approach shots alone. I don't know if that means a ton of water balls or what happened exactly last week. But I mean, if you look at his,
Starting point is 00:38:21 if you want to say, what's wrong with San Burns, you go to his page, it's like, dude, what happened to your iron play? I'm not really sure. Pudding is still incredible, still driving, he's driving it as bad as good as he ever has. Just the iron play has fallen off really, really hard, but yeah, he was trending. He was gaining like a, and you know, a lot of shots year over year over year over year over year.
Starting point is 00:38:39 And now he's, he's regressed back to about what he was in, in 2020. So something to keep it out. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm something to keep it out. I'm excited. Maybe Wuley, 68. It was a cramp. Confirmed it was a cramp. I believe so. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Hopefully you get some physio action. Love when they bring the physio out there. It's the best. How great is it that Minwuley and Minji Lee are both? Like, maybe if you could be like a top 50 player golf in the world, it might not be the best golfer in your family. Like, the fact that they are each,
Starting point is 00:39:04 like among the best golfers of their gender is, like, kind of bonkers. And they both have, like, the most aesthetically pleasing points in the world. It's crazy. Someone with Sweden, I mean, say, go check out, if you want to see, like, an artist at work, like, go check out Mouli, like, definitely, like, a shaper of the ball, like, something you can move in. Oh, dude, some of the Instagram videos of him fighting a three iron or whatnot?
Starting point is 00:39:32 Some some wonderful. I think NBC kind of really will do the little hamster dam here in a very, very positive way here shortly, but They were really steering into in the PJ tour Twitter account on some some disasters that happened out there. Not quite loved to level surf pro cleanups that were that were needed, but surf pro. Yeah, we needed that. But That first take was like it never even happened. Nick Watton, he had a four-puck quad on 17. Apparently they just drove the bus over him, reversed it back and drove it over him again. Is that what happened? Like why is Nick Watton in the field?
Starting point is 00:39:58 Well, you can talk about that. Let's save that for the back end. Straight up, he's earning his way in. Aaron Wise gets to 17T and he is even par. Is that right? Do I have that right? Maybe he was one over par. He hits it in the water on 17 and he makes a bogey.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Then he steps up, he was one over par when he got 17. Makes bogey on 17 after hitting the water. Steps up to 18, hits a T-shirt in the water, reties. Hits another one in the water, reties. Hits another one in the water, finally blows one right, gets up there and makes, I believe a one putt 10 to finish his round at 80 after going to the 70th hole at one over par. If you're listening on the pot,
Starting point is 00:40:34 I'm doing the Chrissy Teigen face. It just, it seems like Aaron Wise is a great driver of the ball, great ball striker, and has been a horrible putter. He's addressed the puttting with, I believe, the broomstick and he was sixth and putting today and dead last obviously in ball striker after pumping, you know, three balls, four balls in the water on the last two holes. Is that like minus five strokes game driving on one hole?
Starting point is 00:40:58 I think it only counts as four, I think, but I could, I mean, he was, so that's, so that's how it works. I like he lost four strokes of the field driving on that hole or three point eight or whatever. He lost off the tee. He lost six shots and six point one shots. So I mean, he's hitting seven off the tee on that hole at least. No, he lost six on 18. Just on 18 on 18, you lost six point one shots off the tee.
Starting point is 00:41:24 That's a, that's a costly. I mean, when you lie six on the tee, the tee that's a that's a costly I mean when you lie six on the T. I think that's your mind is sick that should be the easiest explainer of strokes gave possible like Peter you I live in the mix ago T. C. You're the only one watching that but uh another like super inverted one was saw it to gola is as as near the bottom of driving on almost a on a weekly basis. He had he puts the lights out. He was second in driving today. 133rd in putting.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Kill him. You're killing me saw it. We got I finished. He is T19 200 bar. So he's right there in this. I've made my prediction that Jason Dave is going to win this year. Saw it is going to win this year. I'm whole I'll completely believe it made me.
Starting point is 00:42:04 It's like a lower tier van to whatever, but he's he's totally going to win this year. I'm whole, I'll completely believe it. It made me, it's like a lower tier of Vant to whatever, but he's totally gonna win this year. Out on a limb on that one. On that one. I'm so overwhelmed, there's so many. I think we've all done that exactly. I'm called it right here, saw that it's gonna win. I just wanted on the record.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Okay, dang it. I just joined like a month ago, Saul. I don't have as much frickin' stuff on the record as you guys. There's like 31 guys at minus two are better. Like I don't know how I'm supposed to go. Yeah, down the leaderboard in these conditions. I think we can move on to see in a group your boy Justin Rose is a team Rose you know like pushing for that right or cup of yeah team Rose I think the Aussies played well today
Starting point is 00:42:36 Harrison Indicott Jason Day um Cam Davis played well and we I've decided you know what I've decided I'm gonna be the people say we agreed to much on too much stuff i'm gonna ride for keegan bradley i'm gonna be the guide and i'll use pro keegan bradley fuck all y'all he did a great interview with dilland share this week we talked about like the anxiety of being like an athlete and like some of the shit that he
Starting point is 00:42:59 sort of felt like he struggled with after that uh... pro keegan even though his buddy his best buddy b Brendan Steele, left the tour. I bet he's got even more anxiety now. That's fine. I like, I like him. I'm pro-keyin'.
Starting point is 00:43:12 I think this is just pretty fun. Bring it on, it's not in performative. Cody, can you play the in-memory of KVV tribute as we, as we, Uncle Phil, DJ, Jazzy Jeff throw him out the off-road. Hello, guys. We got Danny McCarthy played well Christian Mosaic and how it out of Svensson. Well, this this would seem like a good good course for Adam's fans. Who could say who could say? I think we saved
Starting point is 00:43:36 go all that's good on the leaderboard. See what? See what Kim time. No, he's doing it. What why did you just blow right past my guy Ryan Armour or Ryan Palmer? Mr. Palmer. Yeah, exactly. I don't see him. Right under your nose. You got to go up to 19. I'm not down to 19 yet.
Starting point is 00:43:50 I'm still on T6. Oh, excuse me. This is the third time we've gone down the board though. Nate Lashley, playing well. Nobody wants to see that. Uh, Victor Hoff, Cody and I were out of hunting green today. Lucas Glover and Zalator was before practice putting next to each other.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Two great, two great partners. Zalator was doing the T drill. Okay. And just going straight, like just looked like a normal putting. It looked really good. How's that possible? Guys, are we in the nest?
Starting point is 00:44:22 I was stunned by his answer when I asked him about the putting stroke. I thought he would be completely self-aware. He seems like a very self-aware guy. I thought he'd be like, pretty joking about it. And yeah, this is my strategy now. This is what I got. He did not care for the fact that it was being poked fun of his close-range potting stroke. The mental demons are definitely there. We're basically saying, yeah, they should put a curtain on. Yes. Like the two for the horse. They should put the blue curtain from the tiger.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Pressure. Yeah. We thought, can't we was going to go build some walls? I went to Home Depot this morning at 9 a.m. It was Kayleigh there. I was looking for the wall. So there's so much Riobee shouldn't in Home Depot. I think the wall is more of a low thing. I didn't know it was Home Depot open at 6 a.m. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:07 People were like, they're projects going. Yeah, the contract is going to be getting more. I bet I can't. People started working at 6 a.m. Jesus. Right. I started working this morning at about 715 and then realized I needed more tools.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Speaking of work, starting at 715, 144 person field in March. Justin's, uh, didn't finish 16 holes today. No weather issues, not at all. If we're going to talk about, uh, kind of, it was the most benign day it could have been out horribly, incredibly benign. If people wonder why we don't maybe need the fields this big and golf, that is the example today.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Like, it could have finished the golf. 34s and I even the biggest. Not in Max. It, uh, can we get into a little quotes now or do we have any other players in type for him today? Taylor Montgomery not shocked to see him playing well in other putting around. How about the booey? I mean, I feel like we should talk a little bit about him. He's still struggling a little
Starting point is 00:46:01 bit with the driver. Like, it's, uh, I thought I felt that for sure he would sort of be on a, you know, this would be fixed. He was a little blip at Palmer and then this, he'd be back. It was putting, I mean, he lost two strokes on the greens today. He was, he was not the best driver, but he hit nine of 14 fairways, you know, of 64th and driving today. It's really, he referred to it afterwards, said he just hit a bunch of lips. No one hits more lips than, than Ron rom as we know but i have a feeling he'll be rising tomorrow
Starting point is 00:46:27 will you apologize for saying that game was a horse for course i will for sure for sure he shot eighty times as with the data says it wasn't i tested the slave to the damn data man listen i just all i didn't pick them all i did was tell you that's the do the jumps off the page
Starting point is 00:46:43 that was to set the example of like dude this course is a freaky golf course i don't I did was tell you, that's the do the jumps off the page. That was to set the example of like, dude, this course is a freaky golf course. I don't know what to tell you that that means. I have some concern. Nobody was ready for Doug Kim. Do not put this on me. Doug Kim is dead. I'm ready for Doug Kim. The dad.
Starting point is 00:46:55 I got some concerning observation. Okay. Is Coach back? His short game is so good. I think he's like leading the, I was looking it up the other day. It's like, it's gaining like almost like a stroke on around the greens T7 at Sony and then Solo 8th at Genesis didn't play well last week. Coach playing some golf. Yeah, yeah, it's it's concerning I do not need the coach back in my life man
Starting point is 00:47:20 It was a it was a pretty pretty sweet day out there not too hot and a little bit warm at times, but it's a freaking awesome golf tournament to go to. We've been saying this well before we got on the PGA Tour payroll. It's not like waste management, like overcrowded. It doesn't, it does not come close to feeling like a major. It does not. It is just like a very good fan experience. I've been hard on the past with their bathroom situations. It's been very, very, very poor. They got that addressed. No problem reaching restrooms today.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Refreshed so much good food at their so many good local restaurants got home spun today. If you're going to the tournament, I would highly recommend the sweet heat at at home spun behind 16 green behind 17. 18 cues off. Where was this recommendation day when I was eating crummy fajitas in the media center? I was I was out there with Hannah, like I was busy, okay. It was so rare. It was the most rare flank steak I think I've ever seen. Anyways, it's an awesome event. Sarge and I went in the merch tent today.
Starting point is 00:48:15 They had a DJ. It was a lot of... Bumping in there. Spinning. Bumping in there is an enormous, you need to clarify it, not Dustin Johnson. Well, an actual DJ. Nor are DJ. You need to clarify, not doesn't Johnson. Or an actual DJ. Nor our DJ.
Starting point is 00:48:26 You know our idea, that's what. That merch tent was so somebody on a slide can say, this is how many square feet our merch tent is. We were actually laying in. It was enormous. It was so big. I got some haters in my mentions asking where, why I'm always on these pods and where DJ and Neil and Randy
Starting point is 00:48:41 are. That'll be revealed in good time. All right. This is how I understand that we're aware of it. We have a strategy this year, where we're, you know, we can't all dedicate all of our resources to the golf tournaments that are going on all at once. We might be kind of trying to kill two birds with one stone. Maybe just be a little patient with it.
Starting point is 00:48:56 If you're, if you don't, you know, like, listen to me, I'm not fucking leaving. I'm not fucking leaving. I'm gonna be here. Guys, how far back is too far back? Wow, we're already playing How Far Back. I will say, before I answer that, KVV and I already recorded a deep dive into another major championship year.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Red and article in this year, it's over 30 years ago. First line of the article I read and of course the Eugene Herald or whatever it is. How far back is Too Far Back? Too far back is plus three. Okay. You'd have to shoot if you shot 65 if you were plus three. So Roy's out of it. He's done. Roy's not gonna win the tournament. I think that's probably. Yeah. Roy should 65. Replay that all you want if he does. I don't know. I'll be thrilled if you do. Roy should 65 tomorrow that gets him to minus three. Yeah, which that was usually that's our job to go say I'm Rory goes out and you never know you're gonna be you're gonna be sending up the fucking sirens rich learner literally
Starting point is 00:49:52 I was like yeah if you shoot 65 tomorrow is gonna be 300 I was like I mean just shot 76 like maybe maybe Max McGreeby caught some dry bias from your latest, so I just wanna say he's minus two. What were the dry bias? You were like, yeah, I was out of the range at Phoenix, and I saw, I saw Max McGreeby. I didn't even know who he was. I let me double down that. I was watching your practice throughout earlier.
Starting point is 00:50:17 And he's, I was like, who's playing with more of Cowan? It was Max McGreeby, did not know. I would, listen, part of me wants to say somebody that does this for a living, and I would think is relatively good at it. Probably should know, part of me wants to say somebody that does this for a living and I would think is relatively good at it. Probably should know like all the people in the field but that might be part of the towards issue.
Starting point is 00:50:30 We can talk about that if you guys are ready. If you asked me to pull like Andrew Novak, Chad Raimi and I do know a little bit of Max McGreevy but like, I don't know, name another pro. Matthews, Matthias Schwab, I don't know who name another pro. Matthews, Matthias Schwab. I don't know who that is. Well, yeah, he's been on some of my riders. Oh, sorry. I mean, Alex Smalley.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Yeah, Alex Smalley. Yeah, like I would, I could not tell those three guys apart. I would have no, no word to start. Their stories can't be told enough. Never. Ben, Ben Griffin,'re not Frank Ben Griffin. Okay. Handsome, man.
Starting point is 00:51:07 It was incredible. You know, we were watching a little bit in the way home. We got back home. I don't remember a commercial break from five o'clock on to the finish. I tracer technology on 18 was up from this super high spot where you could really get a picture of what, you picture of where the ball was actually going instead of the load of the ground one. They had a cool new putting technology thing
Starting point is 00:51:31 that showed what percent you need to hit the putt. Like I saw Jason DeHeta putt was like, I needed to go 136% with like a cool illustration of the aiming line and how it's planning to break. It just goes to show like the issues we had with it last week and all the other weeks are not, I said this last week and I'll double down. Like it's not on Tommy Roy,
Starting point is 00:51:49 like the incredible insane commercial loads that have happened in these golf tournaments. Got some more intel as to why it might be and it's something we may cover in a future episode but just wanted to pause to say like, we said last week I was like watch the players, it's gonna be awesome. They do such a great job with it every year
Starting point is 00:52:03 and man is it noticeable. I know it's not sustainable. I know you can't do this for every event. I'm just saying man was that a super, super noticeable difference. Yeah. I mean, it turns out that the golf producers, the golf talent, they like covering golf, right? And when Brian Roberts and Aunt Molly and and people of walk will get in the way and over sell stuff and the tour. Yeah, and the tour and the tour It's got to take more responsibility for the product This is a this feels like one where the tour takes responsibility for and says this is how it's gonna be displayed
Starting point is 00:52:32 And I don't I don't pretend to know all the in the details of how that relationship works But dude all I care about is what it looks like when I flip that TV on and that was extremely watchable And I hope it maintains for the rest of the week. Yeah, if you want to grow the PGA tour, I know J doesn't want to grow the game. He wants to grow the PGA tour. Like, there you go. That's it. What are you doing for the game? That's what we said.
Starting point is 00:52:51 That's what we should be asking. Not growing the game. What are you doing for the game? This is what is expected for the players. When we talk about other dedicated events, they have to figure it out. Yeah. They got to change up. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 00:53:03 This 100%. However, what happened every shot live? I believe it. to figure it out. Yeah. They got to change up. Oh, for sure. This 100%. However, what happened every shot live? I believe it. Somebody, I heard that it went off the air as soon as NBC came on. For the morning wave, you could have every shot live on, on ESPN plus, PGA tour live, whatever you want to call it. So, but I know some people that like to do some, you know, three ball gambling and things
Starting point is 00:53:20 like that, we're not able to watch this afternoon. So I don't know why that would be. I got people complaining about ESPN plus. We might have to dive in and investigate tomorrow morning TC. Okay. Just on the quality of the coverage or... I mean, they've been... they've been absolutely mailing it in all season. Like, you know, I don't know. We'll check it. Let us let us attend for a week. We watch enough golf on TV. We'll get the... we'll get to the end person experience here What do are we ready to get into some some quotes that we're flying around you have anything we have a lot more golf covered any any shocking
Starting point is 00:53:52 Stinkers other than the ones we covered here is English 78 did not did not see that one coming I'm going up the leaderboard. He went bogey bogey free Over the weekend at bayhill and comes out and shoot 78 today. Yep. Didn't see that. Shane Lowry 77. What fits. Fits shot 76 today as well. Kim plus two. That's 74. Let's open for a little bit. I mean, first year playing though. JT. I mean, we talked a little about it. JT. But JT.
Starting point is 00:54:18 JT out of it. Thomas JT posting. Oh, why didn't see JT posted? It's just Thomas. Just throwing this out there worth noting with JT minus two and a half strokes game putting and missed a three flutter. I think at one point, I mean, it just does not look comfy on the greens and hasn't really all year long. Jerry Kelly is currently plus two. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Beating the rib bite too. What a fucked up game. It's so dumb. What a ridiculous golf course. But like that's also the kind of course where I could see guys going completely backwards after having hot starts. So, um, all right, can we please? What's the forecast look like this weekend?
Starting point is 00:54:53 That's for you and your app. You're gonna put this on me? You don't trust any of the apps that I throw at you. It's gonna be 71 and sunny on Saturday with like very little wind and then 81 and sunny on Sunday with like very little wind and then 81 and sunny on Sunday with very little wind. So Saturday's gonna be nice. I don't think there's gonna be,
Starting point is 00:55:12 unless it blows a little bit tomorrow, I don't think there's gonna be a whole lot of backing up. Like this is gonna be more of like a minus 14, minus 15 year, I think. I say let the conditions dictate the scoring. I would be, I don't think they need to push it too crazy. I don't think they'd need to get absurd with it. I would say ramp the sub-airs up.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Sure. The greens are firm. That's not an issue. I think there was one ball I saw on 16, like on the upslope hit, who hit that, Sam Burns hit that into 16 and they were stunned on the broadcast that it made a ballmark because nothing else had made a ball mark all day long so Can we get to some Ryan armor quotes? Please hit me all right
Starting point is 00:55:51 We're doing this in reverse order that we did the preview. I we hear for you We hear your complaints on the that the players preview was maybe a little bit heavy on on long-term PGA tour stuff one more thing one guy I saw today He's right next to Chez and the leaderboard shot at the Chez shouldn't even part 72. He's Andrew Schoffley. I'm out. Okay. I'm completely out. I just don't I don't want to watch you play golf anymore. It doesn't do anything for me. The the re grips on the club are starting to get to Sergio levels, I think. And it just seems like he feeds on the same
Starting point is 00:56:25 three or four golf courses every year on tour and doesn't really do a whole lot else. I think that's the strangest thing that he ever decided was when like he was one of the best putters in the world. And then like he'd switched his putter right before the US Open at Torrey, a place where he clearly should have been like one of the favorites and was doing like,
Starting point is 00:56:44 Armlock. Yeah, Armlock, because he decided what, that like one of the favorites and was doing like armlock. Yeah, armlock because he decided what, that like the armlock shit for other people is so effective, he need to do it like right before major. That was such a weird decision. Yeah. I mean, he's, he just trust what you are. Like, if he had put it normal and that, he was so open, he'd probably want it. I can't quite decide.
Starting point is 00:57:00 I do feel like Xander is fun, is interesting. Yet we don't... Every interview he does is actually really interesting and he's fun to listen to and he says smart things that are not super boring. And yet at the same time, it's just hard to find love for his golf game or love. His star power just lacks for, I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:57:21 I like the idea of Xander, but then I go out and watch him play a few holes at golf. I'm like, yeah, you know what? I'm good man. I weird time with this earlier of it. I wonder how much like people golf fans in general. I know it's driven for me. It's like, your on course demeanor decides so much of whether or not people will root for you. Sure. Like I think people enjoy like speed is polarizing in a way like people the people that think he's a complainer and whatnot do not like him. But for the most part, people are in,
Starting point is 00:57:48 he's so engaging, he's so, like, he wears his emotions out there that you just end up going on a little bit of an emotional journey that like, you don't go on when you watch the Anderschaffee play golf. If nobody better, more like evidence that than Phil, who like basically was winning people's hearts and minds forever when he was grinning and thums it up and whatever.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Then people said, always the anti-tiger I love that the people who were drawn to that were fucking drawn to that. If Sandor was like that, which obviously can't fake your personality, but he would probably have a lot more people pullin' for him. There's a big distinction too between J.T. and Speed or two guys that sort of wear it on their sleeves, but they wear it in different ways.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I think there's a lot more people that don't like JT because of his own course here. For sure. I would definitely say so. Jordan really seems angry for a sustained moments where as JT does like, it seems inward with Jordan to versus outward with JT.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Jordan's beating himself up where as JT's like wants to strangle the world in a way. Dave Schedlowski had an article with golf digest today, digging in on some great reporting. I believe you I'm not qualified to say so, but I believe you would say so. KVD, we love to give shout outs to great reporters. Doug in on asking some rank and file members of the tour, what they think of it. This is a refreshing change of pace from just reading James Hanquotes in this section of it. But is this the James Han segment?
Starting point is 00:59:05 Yeah, this is that we're gonna transfer it over to Ryan Armer here who I think makes the points better. We've had a lot of conversations, a lot of people over the time period here that they've rolled out this new plan and kind of getting everyone's reaction and they had the meeting earlier this week. We talked to the lot about it on Tuesday, but have had a lot of conversations a bunch since then.
Starting point is 00:59:26 But I think I'm going to read some of Armors quotes you said. I think what bothers me most about this is that we were all in the same pack meeting in San Diego in January and there were serious concerns about going forward with this. We talked about the value of full fields, what it means for hospitality, for fans who want to watch golf all day, what the tour experience is all about. And then they went forward with it. If this was such a great idea, we should have done it 20 years ago when Tiger was winning everything.
Starting point is 00:59:52 These guys aren't Tiger Woods. None of them are the current hierarchy on the tour. What makes this generation of 20 to 30 year olds so special to benefit the most from this? I think it's better, again, better points than James makes, but I think that I have some issues with this. They say you're not Tiger Woods thing as a pretty, really a damning thing, like, because it's right.
Starting point is 01:00:12 There's none of these guys are which much as we like, Rahm and Rory and JT and Storden, like they ain't even like a tenth of what Tiger is in terms of the draw. Tiger's also in favor of this. Yeah, right. To that also is like, why didn't we do this when Tiger was winning everything? That's a good question. I think in the opposite way that you mean it,
Starting point is 01:00:29 but I think it's like. You're in a certain way with the WGC's. Yeah, they did. It was a step in that direction. That didn't work out great. It was poorly executed. Yeah. That's to say like, hey man, I think there's probably something external that's happened in the game that probably drove this. I think it's probably fair to admit that. And the landscape has changed that's happened in the game, they probably drove this. I think it's probably fair to admit that. And the landscape has changed that, yeah, in the Tiger Woods era, there wasn't competition that changed, that was stealing talent left and right.
Starting point is 01:00:51 And again, change like the way professional golf is probably gonna look forever. So, I don't think like, I think a decent point in this is the value of full fields, what it means for hospitality and for fans who want to watch golf all day. I think that's a decent point. I know at the same time, I don't know if your stars
Starting point is 01:01:10 teeing off before 8 a.m. is the best thing for golf as a whole as well. And again, they couldn't even finish the golf today. So 144 people we know is too many for this field. Like it's kind of silly to do. There's also a way to do less guys with twosoms instead of threess and spread it out throughout the day as well.
Starting point is 01:01:27 So he continued, guys who keep their cards, they're good players, but they're not going to have a chance to play the playoffs. They're not getting into any designated events. But they want those players to be mules for you at all the programs, all the charity visits, all the hospital visits and sponsor events. And we're good enough to do that,
Starting point is 01:01:43 but we're not good enough to play in designated events like we did this year. I guess, all right. You are, like, how do you qualify for the playoffs? By beating people at golf. Like, you can say the same thing about the 125 through the 175. 100%.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Okay, so from his perspective, I get why this stinks. Okay, from a change. Yeah, it's change. From a fans perspective, I just have to say like there's 500 to 1000 guys out there who would gladly do that and not have a chance to come to the playoffs just to be a professional golfer. They happily do the programs that there's a lot of people who have been doing this and have been doing it a certain way and feels like, Hey man, like this is the way it should always be. And
Starting point is 01:02:23 that's not really how any businesses work. And I'm sorry that some of these guys feel like they're being kind of nudged to the door and given their gold watch and saying, we don't really need you. But man, that happens in all kinds of businesses. It happened in newspapers. I've spent 11 years in Newspaper, saw generation in generation after people who were seen as essential to the product 10 years ago, kind of nudged out the door.
Starting point is 01:02:47 And I'm not really sure what the answer should be. I just don't think that they should keep the same model just because some guys feel like, well, that's not fair. Why would I want to do? Man, there's plenty of people wanting to take your job. That's how things work where it's a meritocracy of like you either shoot scores or don't. So I just don't, I don't, it's hard for me from a like fans perspective to have sympathy from these guys for a human perspective,
Starting point is 01:03:11 from like a one-on-one, like I wish your career could go on longer. There's other avenues, other tours you could play golf in. If you really feel like it's not fair, I just, I don't know, I feel like I'm, the drama coming across is cold and heartless when I say this. Well, I mean Ryan know, do I feel like I'm, the drama coming across is cold and heartless when I say this? Well, I mean, Ryan Armour submitted it to me.
Starting point is 01:03:27 He's made almost $10 million in the PGA tour. I give him a little bit of credit because looking at his career resume, like I know he's in Ohio State, guys, so he's automatically on my shit list because of that. He's 47 years old. He's been playing on the PGA Tour since 2007, often on. But seemingly, the one making it into the 125, making it to the playoffs is like his big goal each year.
Starting point is 01:03:55 I'm assuming, right? Like he finished 128th and 2758th. He's finished anywhere between 49th and 100th. You don't need to tell us. We know where Ryan armor finish on the FedEx Like he's always in that hundred and 120 range sure right and like but that's probably man You know what I made it to Memphis. That's a big deal That's my it's like cool like this is all just the sliding skill. It's like there's still gonna be underdogs There's still gonna be Favorites and underdogs. It's just a matter of that those underdogs might be at 75 or 80 instead of Ryan who has to say that that one 25 is the right number. What
Starting point is 01:04:30 about the guy that finished 140 that that you know had almost as good of a year as 125. It's all fucking relative. Also Chad Rainey is leading the players. But also not a great example of like you can shoot your way into like that upper tier if you can just shoot your way. Yeah. Again, if we were starting this right now, we wouldn't go straight to like defaulting, like 125 of these guys should be in the playoffs. It's just that it's changing. That's the part that is uncomfortable for people. I'm like, again, in none of these guys' cases, do I hear a reason why it's great for the game of golf? I can understand why this would be great for you, Ryan. I can. And all other players that are upset about this, I totally understand.
Starting point is 01:05:06 I have not fully convinced again that this new system is going to be bad for you, but I understand why you think that. But like, man, I need you to make the case for me. Almost all of these end up with make the case for me why this worst golf should be rewarded as much as you're saying it is. Make the case. Golf is not like other sports. I understand the value of the 10th man on an NBA team.
Starting point is 01:05:27 I do, like it works in a team aspect. Like that is the value you provide is easy to understand because of salary, or a locker room guy. Well, just like you, you're the three point shooter, you're the defensive substitution. Like that is the value provide and golf doesn't do that.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Like everyone's on their own. So it is really freaking hard. If you're past 50th in the world or whatever that is to provide value to the game of golf, like it's just you out there. So, it's not the same as other sports. And like, I just, I can't like wrap my head around why all these people are writing so hard
Starting point is 01:05:58 for just like mediocre golf to continue to get rewarded the way it is. Some of our friends, like people who were like, we're probably like actually consider friends outside are like the people who are being affected by this. David Lingworth's one of my great friends. Like our families are really close friends and like I asked him for his input
Starting point is 01:06:12 and like push back a little bit on it. He's like, I get it, I do get it but like it does affect my livelihood. And I'm like, yeah, I just kind of were, you gotta understand like where we're sitting here and like where, like the possibility for the greater good of the PGA tour and like it to be a more entertaining product It's like right armors 47 and he probably feels like hey, you know what?
Starting point is 01:06:30 I want to leave this thing as I found it or better and so I want to leave it to for his class of player Yeah for his class of player, but but it's also like all right like what can it your results man? Like you're playing the players this week You haven't finished in the top 10 and like almost two years And you were like the first alternate in the event like maybe like pretty good structure for you maybe you shouldn't be in this event this year and like you've earned your way in the past and I respect that but it doesn't really feel like you've earned your way in this year you're just filling the field out and I get that the charities and some of these host organizations make charity money based upon a full-field program
Starting point is 01:07:07 And that's a big component of this But you know what else is a big component like the tour being really healthy and being able to stand up all these events and the TV Contract being valuable and all that and then they can net up some of those charities or whatnot I just I'm just predicating and upon like you know what what? Like, yeah, like the, you know, greater Quad Cities YMCA is not gonna make as much money next year because it's like, no, like maybe in 10 years if we don't fix this and we just keep the status quo, maybe the Quad Cities YMCA is not making any money.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Right. It's also just like, I struggle when you get to the level of pampered and out of touch to be call yourself a mule for like doing things for the charities and for pro-ams and things like that. So dude, you got to, like, no one recognizes you anywhere you go and you got to make $9.2 million for your golf skill. Like, people are probably doing a pretty good job for you. Like, there's some give in that.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Yeah, you got to go play the programs. You get fucking paid for it, dude. Like, you get paid for this stuff. Like, that's part of your job. So it's just like throwing a sympathy party on all that and that's tough. And then he says, say you finished 75th on the points list just using that as an example. Yes, you got a really good year, but you don't get in any designated events. Why wouldn't you take a live contract? You've just been told by the tour that you fought for and were loyal to that we don't
Starting point is 01:08:19 want you. No, you don't. Like, could act like an entitled dipshit and you probably got to play an 18 to 20 great regular events. And if you're worth your salt, because it's not like you're just racking up 25th place finishes every week. In order to finish 75th on the list, you probably finished top five a couple times and you probably did play your way and do a couple of those designated events. And then you have your shot to earn your way to the next level.
Starting point is 01:08:46 It's a fucking meritocracy. I'll say this though, too. Like, why would you take a lead, live contract? Go ahead and take a lead contract. Like, I'm not gonna... Brendan Steel just did. Like, he's in your class of player, right? He's better than you.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Like, Brendan Steel clearing out a spot for someone who potentially, like, could be, you know, a great player. That's a win for the tour. So, and if you feel like it's a win to go to live, go do it. I would rather them clear out a spot for the next Justin Saw or the next Pearson Cooty or Ludwig or somebody like that. You know what, man?
Starting point is 01:09:19 Take a hike, go do it. Like that's fine. And that's also not how live works. There's 48 spots there. There's no, there's no like feeder system into this, like and they can toss you aside in a heartbeat and who knows how long that league is actually gonna last. Like it's just such a lame threat
Starting point is 01:09:34 because basically I don't know how, why you wouldn't, if you feel this way, why you wouldn't have already left. Like if you've stuck it around for this long for the PGA tour, there's a reason why either they didn't offer you something or that I don't see the tour going so far backwards for this class of player that now, oh, now lives a great option for me. It was either a great option for you already or it was, it's not an option. It's really funny to see these old guys like the 47-year-olds going with the leverage over legacy. Pretty rich. I got a solution.
Starting point is 01:10:06 All right. All these guys who are upset, and they can move to Australia, bring life back into the Australian circuit, and then Netflix can go down there and film like a reality show about it. Go find out how much value you have. Go break out on your own and find out how much value you have. You're gonna play the meaner to learn. The meaner to learn.
Starting point is 01:10:22 But aren't the Australians mad mad that like they don't, their stuff has been sort of devastated that that would be a good way to. Yeah, I'd be mad if I was Australian. Yeah, sure. I think they probably deserved to be mad. So the comments I'm saying, here's a thing. We're sending our convicts.
Starting point is 01:10:33 We're not sending our best. But we're sending someone. The Australians don't like it when you make those convicts. I gotta say. That's interesting with Shadlowski. Cause like he, he's a Columbus guy, Ryan's a Columbus guy, a buck tech.
Starting point is 01:10:50 You think Urban Myers advising you? Yeah, I can't reject me. Yeah. However, you believe this? Armor said, I am going to catch heat for this, but I was talking with James Haunt. Oh, I'm gonna admit that. And we went into detail about how we need to rewrite
Starting point is 01:11:05 our mission statement and take out the part about tour creating, the tour creating, playing opportunities for its members. I guess we're not doing that anymore. They just crapped on everything Dean Beeman stood for. I kind of agree with him with this one. I think the tour would be better off without this mandate.
Starting point is 01:11:19 You were saying 600 starts? 650 or something like that. That's a lot of starts. Like, that's like, I don't know, five whole, like four or five whole golf tournaments, right? So I kind of see that, but also I'm looking at it and I'm like, man, we should get rid of like another 600. So you could, you could trim the starts.
Starting point is 01:11:39 You could trim the starts. Again, make the case for us. I can understand why it's great for you. Make the case for me, golf fan, as to why this is great for the PGA tour but also like I could see somebody like this bitching about like the QBE or Grand Thornton shootout going to like a co-ed format and he's like see you're taking more starts off the table for this is like yeah because nobody gives you shit about this event man I look Dean Beeman probably did a good job certainly did a
Starting point is 01:12:03 good job like promoting golf in America and that was did a good job, like promoting golf in America, and that was the sort of idea of like professional golf in America when we're splitting off from the teaching parts, that should be what we're promoting. As many playing opportunities people that make a living, that was kind of happened. And like, again, just because we're splitting into two separate tours doesn't mean we're not still having
Starting point is 01:12:21 providing these playing opportunities for a lot of guys. It's just not, you're not being provided the playing opportunities necessarily for the biggest things, right? It's like not all playing opportunities are created equal. Yeah, if you're a professional poker player, you don't earn you don't automatically get the right to be at every like big money table, right? You kind of have to win your way up the next level. That's not that different. I just I think ignoring the players here for a second, like the stuff that I read on Twitter, which is never the right way to start a sentence, but it's truly like people are just going
Starting point is 01:12:50 to find something to complain about. You're going to find the next thing. If the system was totally different, you would find a different something to complain about and that I'm still just amazed how much people are missing the obvious thing of like the top players in the world are going to play against each other. Like, yeah, the path to getting there is gonna be a little different in how it works, but maybe even more so than ever, it is about the scores you shoot.
Starting point is 01:13:10 And like somebody brought an interesting question today of like, what happens when somebody gets hurt? Like, how do you manage access into the designated events when you fall in the FedEx Cup? Because you're out for six months. Like, how do medicals work? How do medicals work?
Starting point is 01:13:20 That's a fair question, and I don't know if all the details from all of that are figured out yet, but man, it's just like, the hurdle you got to clear if you're gonna make this point of like, these like middle tier guys getting screwed, it's just gotta be convinced me, again, why the guys that aren't as good at golf would have this much of a say
Starting point is 01:13:35 in how this all goes. It's just not that different. It's just a matter of like, you still have to earn your way. There's just, there's just different, like it's just all relative now, it's changes changes hard and like I mean shit like there's there's there's they're probably gonna I mean who knows maybe to play Kate some of these guys they add even more lower tier events right the fall the fall is gonna be wide open for a guy like Ryan armored it absolutely
Starting point is 01:14:01 feed on now it's like, Ryan Armer should be, you know what, there's less top players in the field. Let's roll, you know? I think, yeah. I think that's, we'll see. We'll see what happens. Can I say just something? I thought it was fun.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Cam Smith played around at the yards today. We were sitting here, even Lynch had this, Dylan Chere also sort of had it, even had some quotes from people. Like I would love it if Cam Smith, I would have that would have been I would love it have gone that out there and watched that. It would have been such a fun like the corky story. Like the defending players champ is playing in like a nine hole or like a like 13 hole course that we've like had to like our party yet before the NIT. What a funny like weird kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:14:43 I mean, I remember when Danny Willett missed the cut at the Masters, he went and played at the local course in Augusta and was like in front of like three groups in front of me. And it was like such a funny thing to think about, like, oh, the defending champion is here. Like, he's got to just hang around. Yeah, I mean, it shows you like cams at golf sicko.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Like he, I'm apparently can't get into some of the top country clubs. Obviously this has been floating around but like even reported you know he tried to get into public creek where both Jay and uh and two pinching remembers was basically like told no it's not going to happen.
Starting point is 01:15:14 God I can't have a place to play. I'm not so anti live that I can't like want cam to get to practice and play in the town where he likes to fish and live. I wonder what candid on the black whole green. There's a there's a like lava rock probably hit the live. I wonder what candid on the black hole green. There's a lava rock.
Starting point is 01:15:27 Probably hit the green. I would just assume that he hit the green on that. Rumors were floating that he might show up this weekend. That there's been some stuff floating around. He might show up at the tournament. That would be great if he's just walking around. Oh my god, he's so fun. He should parachute in jet ski lands,
Starting point is 01:15:43 like a jet ski on a parachute and the jet ski lands in the lake on 17, jet skiing. If I know, if I know, cams path back to the tour should be, you have to take the live money and he has to connect with the intercoastal to the 17th Creek. You have much money.
Starting point is 01:15:57 He would have to buy just the amount of property you would have to buy. He can start the infrastructure project. I think he could do it. If I didn't think I would get my media badge taking away for the year, I might sneak it to Cam. I'd be like, let's just walk around inside the ropes. Maybe there's someone who doesn't want to be
Starting point is 01:16:12 credentialed for the rest of the week. Will the TV network's covered if he does show up? No. No. I mean, they would have to. They would have to. I think so. I think they would.
Starting point is 01:16:22 No, I think they would. They might like cover... They would cover like a news story. Maybe like this is a bizarre scene here. I think I think golf channel might have just wanted to say some of the golf. NBC wouldn't on the broadcast. A beat or would have their asses. I thought Zinger was going to get electro shocked today when he said a gust of like, oh,
Starting point is 01:16:41 this is the lead up to a gust. Like I can see, I can just envision smoke coming out of all this. I think NBC too. I think there would be like a fist fight in the booth. If you said we're not going to cover this. I mean, it would look journalists, you can push in a certain way of a rights holder stuff, but as someone who worked for a place that was like a major rights holder, there's certain lines in the sand
Starting point is 01:17:00 that you would draw and you would like be like, I'm literally. This is about you. Yeah, we are absolutely covering it if he shows up in the crowd and is like wandering around. I don't care. Like, Jake can be screaming on the phone with them and they'd be like, sorry, like it's happening. We pay a lot of money to broadcast these things.
Starting point is 01:17:15 We are covering it like a news event. These guys trying to take my lunch money though. Okay. All right, I think that about wraps it for take two of the No Lighting Up live show presented. As always, by our friends at High Doon, thank you all for bearing with us through technical difficulties. Glad we got it sorted.
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