No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 653: Saturday Players Recap

Episode Date: March 12, 2023

Scottie Scheffler takes a two-shot lead into Sunday after a buzzing day at TPC Sawgrass. We discuss what we saw out of Scottie on Saturday, Min Woo Lee, the rest of the leaderboard, Rory quotes, the easy setup, and a ton more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm just I'm a set up guy. All right. That's that's how it was. I do want to say I had to go to a couple different stores to find just any high noon. The stuff. It might be a shortage in the NYC area. And you can't, you got to go to the liquor store, you know, because it is

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I think I can describe it as erotic. It was just filthy. It was very tragic just taking off like an airplane cut through, you know, a little bit of wind, blended pin high, and then he hit a really beautiful pot that sort of trickled around the whole and down into the cup He was coming off a bogey right before that and so it just was kind of really really a cool thing to Witness you don't see shots like that Up close from your television. It's the same way that you feel in person

It's the kind of I was not there for that but it sounds like the kind of shot that's just like a dude You need to go out in person once a year at kind of I was not there for that, but it sounds like the kind of shot that's just like a dude, you need to go out in person. Once a year, at least just to be reminded that, you know, it's not like the little pretty lines you see on television or not how it looks when you watch in person, like watching how far away the the targets look, how narrow the the actual possible landing areas are, the shot shapes, the feeling the wind in their face or whatever that might be going on and seeing that in person sounds like it had a little little effect on you if you will. Yeah, right before that right before that Ben Griffin hit a shot,

I'm sorry, right before that Ben Griffin hit a shot that was like a lower trajectory and I was like, oh, that's gonna be awesome. And it landed like 30 yards short in the green. I was like, oh, actually, badly missed hit that. And then when Scotty sent him to it, I was like, oh, no, you badly missed it that. And then when Scotty sent him to the, I was like, oh, no, that's the difference right there between like a great golfer who plays on tour, but a great, great golfer who might be like in the Hall of Fame one day. KVV, I was going to say the same thing.

Like out there on 80, it's not a very good hole, I don't think, but it's kind of a litmus test for like, all right, you're a bonafide adult here versus you are you are you know a corn fairy tour graduate kind of thing Same thing like just on five I was on 5T Watching groups come through and watching Scotty hit that t-shot and then somebody like bang Griffin It was like they're playing two different sports. It was crazy. Yeah The ball just really doesn't ever leave the line that Scott put hits it on.

I mean, it's interesting in a way that it kind of floats a little bit almost like it just powers through the wind in ways that like most iron players don't. I don't know if I am describing it well that well, but a really beautiful like golf shot that is just penetrating the wind, it just doesn't move at all. It just kind of like it maybe it wiggles a little bit, but that's maybe like a deceptive thing to your eye. It's fascinating. I said this before,

but Scottie, seeing it in person, you know, you watch it on TV, part of the reason why it probably doesn't pass a big Randy's eye test is like, it looks funky on TV, the slide, and like the little over the top move, and just the motion in general, but when you see it in person,

connected to the ball flight, it's like, oh, dude, how do you ever hit one offline? That just seems like the best possible way to get one, the club face going down the target line as far as long as possible. I continue to not know anything about the golf swing, but he does make it look extremely easy and it makes me wish that I had that's kind of like coordination

between my lower body and upper body to be able to make a golf ball move that way. So I echo that in a big way. I feel like there's a narrative around Scotty that he's boring and maybe off the course, you could might be us saying that. But I find him fascinating to watch play golf. The way he's got all this stuff going on in his lower body, but nobody squares up the club face better than him.

And he's got this, I don't know what the right analogy is, but nobody squares up the club face better than him. And he's got this, I don't know what the right analogy is, but it's like it almost feels like the Odoyl's rule car going off the road in Billy Madison. It's just like, oh, they're like him getting the club face through the zone with his feet, like almost off the ground. And the way he's able to generate enough power to do that is it like I don't get sick of watching that. So I feel like, when people say he's boring, sure, maybe he is in person, but I find his golf game electric. So what is, what is that I have to do with the,

with the, with the, with the, yeah, the car goes off the road and Scotty is on the fairway. What might, no, I would like to dig in on that. The car goes off the road and kind of just, he just sends it through the zone, like through the guard rails and it floats. It's accelerating off the cliff.

Yeah, and it's accelerating off the cliff. It's still carrying out there. Like there's just a lot of forward momentum. When he gets the club almost back at the top, his hands are high. The way he gets it through the zone is, like I can't think of anybody else that, I don't know, attacks the golf ball like that

with, with, it's a, it's a KVV to your point. It's, he's the artist to me versus Ron who's much more of the mechanic, right? And I've gotten wrapped into a couple of these mechanic first artists, Twitter threads that I don't know, whatever's going on out there. But I feel like Shephler between his swing, you know his full swing And then I don't think he gets enough credit for his hands around the green Like I think he's so good chipper in golf. Yeah, all stop. It's unbelievable what he does with his wedges He and Ted Scott he was explaining in his presser afterwards have a bet about how many chip-ins he'll have all season and

He's already broken it like today when the chipping in on two of the eagle basically like won the bet. So he was teasing Scott about like, well, you got to already pay up the money that kind of has to be on you like right now. And we were sort of asking him like, wait, is this kind of a weird bet for Ted does he root against you to break it sometimes?

Is it like, oh yeah, sometimes they'll root for a chip to miss. Like, you know, if I'm chipping in too many. But no, he's, you know, so it kind of talked a little bit about when he was a kid, we were talking a little bit to his coach. You know, he a lot of his chipping stuff, he learned basically chipping against Colt Nost and Justin Leonard when he was growing up around them. It just basically like being a 12 year old and beating them at chipping contests. And now like in this same

practice facility in Dallas, there's kids who are like trying to do the same thing to him. And his coach is saying like when it happens when the kids beat him He's pissed. He's still like really burns hot on it. And it's like, you know, I want to rematch right now It that was ten times ten times was the bet the the chip in bet that's already been reached and I will say I don't care what they're bet. I don't know what they're betting But I know that 10% of 4.5 million dollars is $450,000 for Ted Scott So I think he'll be able to pay up whatever that that debt might be.

How is that? So Scottie said he has to have it on him. So how is he doing with Leonard if he's he's much older than Leonard, right? TC was gonna get that joke in no matter what obstacles were thrown his way. Come on, come on, I'm open. I'm open for three, come on.

I love it. Well, the other hands are great everywhere. It's not just around the hands. His hands are just insane everywhere. Yeah. And that's I think I was that concept. He's able to like, who knows what's going on with his feet and his lower body. And every like golf instructional video, I feel like I watch. It's like, oh, you want to have a firm base, you know, you turn, it's all in the hips, this stuff. And he just finds a way to get that club face to around with his hands. It's, it's truly amazing. And I don't find that boring at all. I could, every time he comes on TV, I look up, I'm like, oh my God, I can't wait to watch what his feet do here. And then when he's chipping, it doesn't matter what grass he's on. And it always seems like he attempts the hard shot too.

And then like executes it. Like he, you know, opens the face up and he's, he's able to spin it. It's just really, really fun to watch. I was talking to a pro this week who said that they thought he'd bone that chip in the masters on three when he chipped it in and they were like, yeah, I was going like 50 feet by. I was a terrible shot. And I was like, really?

Like, was it that bad? They seemed like he bounced it right into the slope there and did kind of exactly what he wanted. Like, they were sort of, I don't know. They didn't pass the eye test for them. So I would definitely won't name that person. It didn't hit the, it didn't, he didn't skull it, but it didn't hit the bank in the way that he wanted it to.

And it was gonna go by, but it wasn't like he missed hit that chip, but it's gonna be interesting. Going down the stretch of the masters, the four plot on 18 when the nerves were really did take over. If you go back and look, I guess I view Scotty differently after he reflected on how crying the morning of the master's Sunday morning the master's and I wonder if the moment was too big for him. I'm getting to 17 tomorrow with a relatively big lead.

If there's any kind of conditions at all, I haven't looked at what they're going to be. That could be really interesting. Just I know he's been a closer and he's executed pretty much anytime he's been in this spot, but kind of unit through that lens, like that kind of moment is going to be a totally different thing, you know, on the 71st hole of the tournament tomorrow. He said that today he still gets nervous. He's like, I still get nervous for Thursday rounds. Like, I don't get, I'm not sitting here like telling you that I've got it all figured out. So yeah, for sure, that's going to be awesome.

Uh, what's the candidates tomorrow just pulled it up on the app. This is the GFS model. Uh, wins are going to start ramping up a little bit later in the afternoon, uh, out of the south, very different win than we've had, uh, today, uh, out of the south, we're win that we've had today. Out of the south, we're gonna get gusts up to 26, 27, 28 miles an hour. Jesus. Six or seven PM kind of ramping up as we go along.

So the North American model showing very similar, the models are in great alignment tomorrow night. Toronto can't Torey. So that's four separate win directions. I don't think we've gotten west, have we? It's like south or southwest. I don't think we've had that. We've had north, northeast, and east, and a little bit of southeast yesterday.

Well, it's not a win yet for Scotty. Like, I don't want to give it away too quickly, but man, his win profiles are already, we've already comment about how eclectic they are in terms of, he of waste management twice obviously that's a common you know common theme there but a match play on a funky golf course at Austin country club going to bay hill winning with thick rough firm ass greens and a terrible golf course and then going to Augusta wide undulating totally different style of golf now going to technical double black diamond skiing with p die that would, just a wildly different, like, I don't know how to describe that other than like not being a horse for course style kind of

guides. I can truly pick up my game and take it anywhere would be extremely noteworthy if it comes to that tomorrow. It's going to be so hard to beat him in Augusta. If he's playing even remotely close to this tea degree, I mean his iron plays insane. Yeah, you know what? The one thing. Yeah, go ahead. The one thing that putting well, he's barely above average on stroke's game putting so far this week, which is, he's almost gone full VJ saying.

The one thing that did piss me off today a little bit. Is anybody else noticing that the collars are pretty shaggy this year at sawgrass? Like the like the friends. Collars on a shirt. No, no, like the collars around the greens. Like that shoddy hinted at 13 was not good and probably should have been water. Should have spun in. Oh, they're catching a lot of balls you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would certainly be the case. I think it introduces some really hard shots around the green.

Like balls going up against, like resting up against the fringe and, you know, really close to the hole, but in thick rough can be really challenging shots. But yeah, there's been some, some, I feel like that's, it's been that way ever since they went to March though. I feel like all of that has been kind of catchy. And like I know it rained at like an inch last night, but I mean, there was one from Jason Day today where he was basically hitting a flop shot from the collar off of 17. That was wild. It was like, hold out. He deserves credit for that. I mean, totally, really, really good goal shot.

But it was just like, whoa, like that. I don't think I've seen that shot ever on that hole, you know? Well, it's weird. The areas of the rough where they've actually shaved the rough down a little bit, trying to get the ball to roll a little bit, you can see the permute to coming through there, right? The rise, the parts that they have intentionally not mode is when you got to get the rye up high, but anything they've mowed down, it's like, oh, shit, that's permute to there. And I don't know if that makes it easier or harder for these guys.

Nothing really seems to phase them, but it was noteworthy to, you can see the hot winter coming through in the rough areas that are mowed down a little bit more. KVV, what you followed Scotty a lot today, kind of an eclectic group. What was the vibe like in the group? I would say it was pretty, I wouldn't say it was like overly friendly.

It was, Scotty kind of keeps to himself, doesn't really make a lot of small talk with some of the other guys. Be interested to see how he and Mimu, sorry, are tomorrow, we were asking him in the press store, you know, what do you know about Mimu? And he's like, oh, I know him well, I feel like he's super talented. So I feel like, Scotty doesn't really seem like a cooler. He's not like Tiger where he's kind of given guys the stiff shoulder, but he isn't like super going out

of his way. He just kind of like he likes to walk alone. No, it's to kind of walk by himself. Doesn't even always wait for Ted in a lot of the ways. So two cents tomorrow. The beach taking a walk, you know, every day just kind of on. He's just doing his own thing. I don't know.

I want to say this though about more gent, this is more macro and I'm interested to hear what you guys think. But I feel very like thankful and lucky that we've got ROM and we've got Sheffler, you know, and Rory. But mainly those two oppositions of the spectrum to me and how they approach the game of golf and how they hit the golf ball. Like if you were a coach or if I was, you know, if I had a son, I'd be like, Hey, you follow Rom, that's how you want to hit the golf ball. Like look at the way he transfers

his power, look how compact and efficient his swing is. But like I'm more attracted to the way that Sheffler approaches golf and the way that he hits the ball. And we have these two guys that are going basically changing places at the top of the world rankings. And you get to watch these two different styles like on display week over week in these days at the events.

And I think it's awesome. So, you know, I wish Ram didn't WD, but I just, we've been talking about Ram a lot the last two months. And it's just nice to see Shefford's. I know, don't forget about me and look at the way that I can do it in a completely different style. And it's just as good.

The cream is so rising to the top here. A little bit. From one guy, really, it's still like below that, I'm still waiting for more cream to be rising. Like, more Akawa was most definitely not rising today. I think the brewery is the most interesting golfer in the world. I think the John Romm is the most relentless golfer in the world. I think Scotty Schiffler is the most complete golfer in the world right now. That's the way I'm sort of looking at it is that if if Romm is coming at you like you can feel the sort of intimidation, like the old man, like Ram is breathing down my neck.

But Scottie, if he is not playing great, he's still hanging around six, fifth, he's climbing the board, whereas Rory just is capable of like what he did this week, being totally shooting himself out of it, or doing what he did at Augusta on, you know, Sunday last year, just completely blitzing the field. And so it'd be fascinating when they all are kind of you know show up maybe all

guys will pair them together you know what do you think roms are cheflers worst finishes he finished t-45 the cj cup to start this season what do you think is worst finishes on the pga tour since that just take a guess t-12 t-12 t-12 t-12 inches swear to god his results have been t-3 t-9 T12 T12 Six 16 T12 T12 inches T2S T2S T2S

T2S T2S T2S T3S T9S T7T11 T12T4 Those are his results He's having a better season this year than he had last year He's picked up a half a shot off a year that he won four times last year

If it wasn't for ROM, we would be talking about this probably a lot more. Like we have called attention to that several times, especially after his win to say like, hey dude, this is, people thought he cooled off, nah dog, like he is, he is that dude. And man, just go back, I want to go back now and watch. I'm sure there was, it was nothing but commercials wouldn't actually happen.

But the singles match at Whistler's Straits between Ron and Sheffler is so interesting to look back on. Because at the time Sheffler was 12th guy on the US team. Rahm was clearly number one guy on Europe at that point, but Sheffler took a beat him, like beat him pretty badly. And I would love to go back and watch that now through the different prison that we understand Scotty from. It's, it's quite a development. I will last whatever.

18 months. I will stick up for my guy, can't lay. I'm here, here on the tool aisle. He has the toolsiest golfer on tour. Yeah, it's all the tools that's good. And his toolbox. So you know, we were talking with Rory a little bit on Wednesday. And one of the things that he said, I think it's right before he got there was man, it's weird to think like I remember being paired.

Maybe he was in a practice round with Scotty before he had won here. And he was like, just a guy. And he was like, now look at him. Like he won once. And then was like just a guy and he was like now look at him like he won once and then the batter you know the Ryder Cup and then he won and he just was like really it's almost like Rory was like processing man life can come out you fast you know and then it really can like all of a sudden you're the best dude in the world and you've been you know someone just been drafted right by you like an Ascar race.

Well those guys were talking about on live from this morning I caught a little bit of that and I thought it was a good point about he. The players on that Ryder Cup team almost picked him. You know, told striker like, Hey, we want this guy. And to be, I don't know, have that confidence from the, you know, the best players in the US. It almost, I think was the jumpstart of his career. Like, Oh, you belong here and we want you on the team. And then he balls out and it's like, OK, I think, was the jumpstart of his career. Like, oh, you belong here and we want you on the team and then he balls out. And it's like, okay, I belong.

It was almost like a way for him to get that confidence a little quicker. The leap this year has been off the team. For Scotty, he's picked up accuracy. He's picked up a little bit of distance and he's gained over almost a half a shot off the tee. And he was already a very positive driver of the golf ball prior to that. So that's, that's where it's really coming from. Ironplay looks exactly the same, putting almost the same around the green looks exactly the same, but he's just picked up a half a shot,

per round off the team. Might not sound like a lot, but oh my God, is that a lot? That's the difference in winning a lot of golf tournaments and sorry to take a dig at my guy, but like Tony Fienaugh in finishing a lot of top fives. Katie, I have a question for you. And then I want to hear what Sally's best moment was. I know we kind of skipped over you, Sally, on the the front and there. But where do you place Rory in the mechanic first artist discussion?

I would say artists, I think, is often, I mean, he's a guy who's tried to hit a fade, he's tried to sort of, you know, do different things with his wedges, always a little bit tinkery. I mean, the thing about Rory's, he's so talented that he can hit every shot. And there are times when, you know, when he was probably at his best, it was when he and even admitted this, he had nothing to draw. He was sticking to this sort of mechanic. So there are people out there that the data boys who would say, I think, probably accurately,

like in a lot of ways, you're bringing in more mistakes with shaping the ball in both directions. Like, it can help you get to some pins, but in terms of consistency, like you probably ought to have a shot that you stick to a shotgun and you trust it over and over again. And the rare times that you miss, like, that's okay. But you're for the most part, you're playing the percentage, like you're playing Blackjack. I think, I think that's probably a fair description of Roy's that he always is a little bit tinkery.

Yeah, I've, it's funny. He said I see him almost as right in between these two. I would say mechanic. I think I was going gonna say, I think when he skews mechanic, when he goes to the mechanics side, he's better. Like, and you can see it some with, when he was struggling with his wedges, it's like, it looked very mechanical when he was, you know, hitting the ball to 25 feet from 80 yards. And it was really frustrating. And then, you know, he's kind of, kind of fixed the glitch a little bit,

but it doesn't feel, or it doesn't feel quite as artistic to me. Definitely not as much as Sheffler, but I would probably play some of the mechanics. I was gonna, I feel like it's been a younger Rory. It's been a running bit though for years of he's soft conditions only, right? I mean, that to me screams mechanic, right? I don't see him like, you know,

when the conditions get harder and firmer and tougher, I'm not like, oh, here comes Rory. Like I think it's, he feels like just cut and dry, like made, born to be able to compete in PGA tour events more than I feel like when it, you know, when the go on gets tough, you know, he's the guy to go to. I think I think it's a reason. He's a team principal. I think his recent US Open record would go against that, though, so he's like, he's contended in a bunch of US Open. He hasn't won, but like, Tori was really tough. Rukaline was tough.

Like, those are all times when it was hardened and he still kind of figured it out. So maybe the airship, that's just talent. But I think that what I think when I think artists is like, he sees, you know, a back right pin and he's like, all right, I can hit a sick fade to this pin. Not sick fade, but like, you know, a gentle fade instead of basically saying, like, all right, I'm just gonna hit this in the middle of the green and, you know, I mean, that's, we saw that at Bay Hill. He was like, all right, I'm gonna hit a big swooping draw to this pin when he didn't actually have to. If he just hits in the middle of the green, there he's probably gonna play off. Hmm. Yeah.

I don't know. I almost feel like Roy's neither. I think speed is neither for sure. Please say more TC. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. Oh, I mean, speed is both, right? Speed's like it. That's a speed. It's just sure. He's like an industrial. No, he's like that guy. Valentine or call to he's building like, uh, exactly. He's building like physical artwork, you know, like mobiles or whatever. The things that are like balanced. To me, artist is like, somebody you can throw him in any kind of situation, and they're gonna figure out a way

to get the golf ball in the hole. Like I think back on watching Scotty hitting shots out of the desert at waist management and draw hook sand wedges and throw him anywhere and he's like gonna find a way. Speed is very much the same. What you put speed in the heart, the harder you put,

harder a spot you put speed in, the more he thinks he's gonna make it from like 220 away. Whereas like, I don't get the same feeling when when when Roy gets put behind the eight ball, like it just seems to kind of add up to what the expected score might be for Rory, whereas speed is like middle fairway, he might make five and from the trees, he might make three is kind of what that's how I would define an artist, but I think it's truly I agree with you, Sally.

I feel like Rory, when he gets off schedule, schedule off rhythm You know what how he misses the cut right like he if he but when he's locked in off the tee It's just it looks so easy for him. Yeah, and so I think that's a little bit more Mechanical than it is artistic What would you describe course record holder Tom Hogue yes? Do we need to factor inflation into this course record? I was trying to make a finance joy. I didn't come up with any pick points. I saw it that early.

It said, I think this was after, I don't know, maybe three fours so the guys had finished up, but it was like 50 to 70 shots lower than the next closest day ever. Or third or third. The next closest third round and it was it was the first time that 18s played under parsons like 1996 or something.

Which I know like blood boil TC. I know you hate that. Well, no, we can need to get hours without a ball in the water on 17. Yeah. We need to get a cantalase team in there to build a new T-box up there on 18 about the hospitality tents. It does seem like they picked all the easy pit.

Maybe too many easy pins for one round. I go to like over 72 holes. It doesn't really matter how much you mix in, you know, the easy pins versus the hard pins, but it was kind of just like, ah, it's easy on 17. Ah, it's easy on 18. Ah, it's the easiest pin on 16 too. 14 was kind of a tough pin,

but it just felt like 12 was super accessible with the tee up and all that. It shouldn't have been a surprise to them that this course was low as they were. Maybe that's what they wanted. And it was set up for that for a reason, but it was weird to go for the tournament to switch that much from the condition switched overnight

and the set up got a lot easier, but I don't know, kind of made for a fun entertaining day. There was a very real buzz out there today. But yeah, you guys were talking about last night. Wasn't that a bit of a pace of play thing? You know, it was quicker today. Yeah, to make sure that these guys weren't in the pins weren't super hard because they need to get it in before you know, they got guys finishing the second round,

they got to give them back out. Yeah. I mean, that was that was one of the nicest weather days of the year. So far, like it was it was pristine out there. And there was solid, like you said, there was a buzz. There was an energy out there, especially in the back nine. But even on the front nine on, on holes like four and nine. Um, yeah, it was, I had a great day out there watching golf. It was awesome. Well, Sally, what was, let, listen, 30 minutes in. I, sure.

What was your, what was your best thing you saw today on site? Uh, best thing I saw today was we followed the Cam Young Jordan, speed max, home a group for their, uh, their front nine, the back nine. And so I kind of how it works was, you know, you get out there, people are getting out there ready to see some golf in around 10, 30s when the afternoon tea time started or the round three tea time started. And there wasn't much golf going on. So everyone started to that back nine. I mean, normally you kind of spread out a little bit more, but it was just like 10, 15 rows deep of people following just this three balls.

So we had to kind of, TPC sawgrass works out really well for that. You can get up on top of hills and you can still see a lot of shots and it worked out great. But the ball striking exhibition that Cameron Young put on for like a eight hole stretch was just, it was on, I don't want to say unlike anything I'd seen, but maybe unlike anything I'd seen in person in terms of just supreme premium ball striking on repeat. He hits 11. He birdies 10 hits 11 and two to the middle of the green two puts birdie very easily.

Almost ace is 12 with driver like a what the win was in at that point. I watched a deck. He drive it to the front couldn't get there. Sung J drive to the front couldn't get there and Cam Young steps up hits on the green and like spins it and holds the green. Two-puts birdie there flips over, hits this shot on 14. He drives it in the bunker like through the fairway. He absolutely bond one through the fairway, slightly left.

He's got a hook a wedge around the trees to a back left pin. And I'm watching this happen. It doesn't look possible. And I'm watching this thing just hook, hook, hook in, land on the green with left spin. It looks like a tiger shot landing on the green with this added layer of left spin gets all the way back to the back left pin Steps up on 15t. I looked this up. He had a hundred and seventy foot apex with a three wood off of 15t Just total moonshot. I mean the whole crowd was just murmuring and buzzing over this shot I did not understand why maybe he skyed it, but it went really far

It was just trouble getting my nine iron above like a hundred. It was freaking. It was so high. I've watched a lot of golf, but I don't know if I've ever seen a golf shot go that high. And I, this is going to sound like a dramatic overreaction. And I don't think I'm going to, I can already predict. I'm not going to fully be able to make this point. But watching Cam Young today made me think and realize that why the PGA tour is going to make this point. But watching Cam Young today made me think and realize that why the PGA tour is going to win this or that the PGA tour is going to win this thing. Cam Young was super close to signing with Liv. Maybe maybe the closest to signing with Liv at the last second was kind of pulled back in by a lot of influence in the Delaware

meeting as I understand it. And like, dude, to be able to watch that talent and appreciate it next to all of the other most talented guys in golf was, that was like, dude, that would be such a waste if this was happening on the CW. Like this would not make sense for somebody that's hitting a ball to the moon to be playing on like the iron heads or whatever the team names are over there. Like it was just like, holy shit, this is a,

this is what competitive golf means. Like I need to be able to go out and watch the best players in the world, like clearly separate themselves from other guys and appreciate that. And that's, that was my, that was my best thing I saw today. You know, so came young one year over today. I, I've, I've watched him play in person. I've greatly enjoy the, you know, the ball striking aspect. I'd like to see him figure the putting out a little bit more of the president's cup. His putting was a little bit suspect. He's been really close to winning, but does doesn't seem to make enough putts to be able to win.

The winners, the phrase, the winners come from the best putters of the best ball strikers. He's there with the hit in the golf ball, man. It was all there. I know he kind of faded a little bit when he flipped over to the other side, but dude, I don't see like a level like that with a lot of guys we watch out there. It was the same thing. I watched him on the other side, I watched him on the front nine and same kind of thing with some of the shots off the

tee, some of the lines that he's taking. I mean, shit, the line he took on 18 T. Everybody was like, audibly, holy shit. Like that was radically different than even Max and Steve, like two of the other best ball strikers in the world. I mean, it's weird. He even, out of the bunker, he takes the same pause at the top on a bunker shot. It was, it's like really disconcerting. It's so impressive. I would say best thing I saw today was the ball don't lie situation with Adam Svensson.

After the TIO debacle this morning, he hit it right of nine on top of a generator, on nine. One of the most egregious TIO. We must have TIO reform. We need to have TIO reform, but Svensson was the only guy in the top 40 to shoot over par today. T.C., I really appreciate you picking up this TIO case with me me ever since Brennan's deal did it Sony two years ago. It's just it's egregious that these guys get these clean drop line of sight drops. It is a problem. And I took a lot of heat for, you know, saying that about Shephler last year at the Masters

when he got a drop from the scoreboard. Like, yeah, this is that's not a temporary, a movable object, a scoreboard. And then I, all the people, oh, no, they take those down. I don't care. Look at that thing. I mean, it's a brick shit house. Like, how do you reform it? Let's, let's get to the solution. How do you reform it? I think you reform it. You either hit the shot, play the ball as it lies, as always, or you get a drop. If you need a drop, you can get the line of sight drop, but you got to take a one stroke penalty because if you're hitting it, you shouldn't have fucking hit it there. If you hit it drop, you can get the line of sight drop, but you got to take a one stroke penalty. Because if you're hitting it, you shouldn't have fucking hit it there. If you hit it into a hospitality tent and you don't have like, it's like when you get up against an out of bounce fence,

and you don't have a lie, and you want to take a stroke, that's fine. You shouldn't hit it there. I think I just don't think there's any reason these guys should get a free drop from that. There should be some type of penalty and it could be the line of sight. Take it back a hundred yards, take it way over like Spencer did it a day. Got a perfect drop next to the cart path. Cool. If you want to take that drop, like, but if you're on top of a generator, come on, man, that's ridiculous. It's crazy when it's when it's you're dropping a hundred yards away from where you were, like, make it a extra shitty spot. That's the answer, I think the RNA like another solution, but they have to have a spot to drop it. There's so many hospitality tents. It's like, what is everybody?

You're going to go drop on the left side of the fairway now. Like I don't know about that. You should have to take a shot. I, you know, take a shot or a shot. You got to take either a one stroke penalty or you have to take a shot from like you have to go up in the hospitality and take a shot. Also KVV people are calling you Ken Bone. Wow, that's tough. I mean, that's so good. That's that is. Maybe he's an undec decided voter on TIO. He's just he's trying to he's trying to make up his mind.

That's why he's here for this debate. So he's he's undecided. I think you should support my movement to have a tournament with no drops. Like everything is just like I'm so on board with that. That's awesome. Now realistically, what legislation can we get past? I think of keep it all the same. But like if you hit it offline

and the course shouldn't play easier for the pros, right? For a tournament. And like if you get the bounce off, if you still wanna do the back boarding stuff, that's great, man, like go for it. And it bounces off like yeah, you're back in play, you're in a good spot. But like if you end up in a shitty position

because of a hospitality tent, I don't care if it's temporary. You should have to take a penalty if you end up in a shitty position because of a hospitality tent, I don't care if it's temporary. You should have to take a penalty if you wanna get a drop. Here's the reality of it though, that in theory, I agree with that, but the reality is there's a sponsorship dollar aspect of golf and the sponsorship slash dollar aspect of golf

means people wanna get close to the action, which means the hospitality tents are to get close to the action, which means the hospitality tents are going to get close to the golf holes and punishing people that hit it into that spot is it's not it's not as easy as like there's a shitload of like ball ball don't lie slash this doesn't feel fair slash what should happen in golf and like the more the closer you put like hospitality to the action the more more that's gonna happen. Like I agree, like put a bad drop zone. A bad drop zone. It would be tremendous drama if these guys started trying to hit flop shots over the hospitality tents.

Like they can still play the ball as it lies. And look, I agree with you. You don't have to take the drop. I'm just telling you, that's fantasy world because like there's insurance when it comes to golf and there's danger with coming with like, hey, hit it over this group of people that are right there. Like that's not something that, uh, that travelers is going to want to be

ensuring. What about this? What about this? I was already hitting in the crowd every round. I mean, that's the, that's the beauty of golf. You're always playing from the spectators. Like I kind of push back on that. Like people, like, we'll get speed. He made the cut because he hit a guy in the knee.

Like, they're not worried about that guy. What they're just worried about the high rollers in the hospitality tents. I think that's a cop out. I guess that guy was like a 25 year marine. So, you know, not only served his country, but he also served spieth. I will say, I think one other solution could be

like a really ratty, shitty, worn out piece of artificial turf. You put on every hole and it can move around to where these guys need to hit it from. And you basically bring this big mat over and the guy has to put the ball on the mat and hit the shot from the mat. And it's like a bear,

it's like a half shot penalty. Like all right, cool. You got to hit one off this bare piece of artificial turf for your next flop shot or whatever. Like, what if it's on the roof of a car or something? Like, that's, that would go into that. No, I'm saying like, like, you do get relief, but you have to then take relief.

It's basically like creating that shitty lie or that, the muff as, you know, Zinger would call it. I'll get out come back to hitting flop shots over hospitality is just straight up never going to happen. But the answer, no, the answer is the bad drop zones. The RNA does this. They put you, they put a white circle there and it is like the thick shit. It's like, all right, dude, if you want to bail out into the hospitality, here is where

you're going to be dropping and you need to evaluate that into your decision. That's your answer, right? The PJ Torgas straight up does not do that. They do not put drop zones near any hospitality to make you like even think about that kind of decision. But you're on board with us in TIO reform. In general, yes, it's just the way golf rules like have to be written. It's kind of, it's very, it's complicated, right? There's just a shitload of spots where it's going to feel wrong that this has to happen, but there's also way, like, reasons why you need to get relief from these kind of spots. Like, some of them are, again, if you put up a tower, like a shot length thing within the line of play, they need to be able to gun all the yardages and they put a scoreboard right here near the line of play. So you can, people are watching the golf and you didn't see the scoreboard.

It's just not as simple as like that, you know, that's their play around it. I haven't been to many tournaments where the scoreboard is in play. Like I just don't think I've hit it behind the school. I really got to hit a bad one to get into a spot like that. And I just think of free drop as bullshit. I mean, when wrong, was it wrong? The hit and the theme of tense at Riviera. Like that was outrageous. Like to see I was so proud of you for for riding for TIO reform. You know, like I I'm glad to have some, you know, a coalition of the willing. Where is solid? Sally is like fucking Kristen cinema or, you know, Lisa Murkowski or something. We don't know which side he's on. We don't know what you both are. You on board.

I've given you a realistic solution. You're playing fantasy world. I want to see him hitting flop shots out of the hospitality and taking shots up in the hospitality. Lobbyus, you're up in the hospitality, too. I'm up in the hospitality. I'm looking out for myself here. It's dangerous up in the hospitality, okay?

Come on. All right, KVV, we're gonna let you go. I think we, uh, we gotta talk about menwoolly. We got, youVV, we're gonna let you go. I think we, yeah. We gotta talk about MindWooly. We got, how TIO got it over MindWooly? I will never forgive you for TC. That's supposed to be your guy. I'm putting that squarely on you.

The best thing I saw, the ball don't lie. Also, Neil, you need to shave your mustache into the MindWooly, like, you know, villain mustache. Let me say. He's got a great look going. I love his sunglasses. When he took his hat off on 18, great mullet flow going. It was really really strong aesthetic that he's putting out there. And honestly, I was pretty impressed. He I mean, he brought

it today. He didn't fade. I kind of he charged and then stuck around and had a great finish to the round. So somebody needs to probably test his two iron. I mean, what a missile launcher. That thing is on on 12 and on 18 hitting that like draw that's running for 40 yards. That was incredible. But again, again, I'm taking the ball here. KVV, we got to let you go. We held you for longer than we thought that we were playing for KVV. Thank you very much. Enjoy your Saturday night. We'll let you go. Second, I got to give a shout out to our friends at Robac TC as Ruckin.

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I saw in the back of people shirts out there. I'm sure you saw the same thing in the day TC. The rowbacks are everywhere. Excuse me. I get excited about these. The performance polos fit way better than typical boxy polos. The collar never loses its shape. The Q-Zips are perfect.

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We appreciate their support. It's all a lot of a lot of print polos out there today. A lot of rowback print polos out there. I saw a lot of, yeah, I got that shirt. Yeah, I got that shirt. You guys give them a nod, you give them the rowback nod? Of course, of course. I love it. Min Wu Lee is two shots back.

I believe my scoreboard is not refreshing. Do I have that right? Two shots back going into it. Can I give you guys a little tease, a little hint at what his ball speeds were with driver today? Did you see this out there? I did not. It was as I'm scrolling the timeline, one 89.2, one 90.9, one 90.3, one 92.2, one 92.3, one 91.7, one 92.3, one 89.4, one 93.2.

That's the driver ball speed for Menwooli. I got to admit, I did not know he moved it like that. That's that's wild. He's a menwool is only 24. He's been doing it a while. He's got a couple big dick wins too. Victoria open 2021 Aberdeen Scottish open, which was Aberdeen Scottish open, which was at Pretty good playoff over Thomas D.T. Tree and Matt Fitzpatrick there, but now I mean it's probably the most aesthetically pleasing swing I've ever seen kind of wondering like, hey, how is this guy not not one more or not? And I think it's Just a late bloomer a little bit, right? Like he's been he's been doing it a while, T14 at the Masters last year,

made the cut in three of the four majors last year. Like he's been flashing some form. I don't know, it's cool to see a couple Aussies up there. Cam Davis and Minwoo, that's gotta make Cam feel kinda, oh man, like my Aussie countrymen are usurping me here and while I can't defend my own title. Looking at Menwu's profile here, it is a lot of hot and cold,

like some extremely good rounds, and then also some extremely bad rounds. Like, at the BMW PGA, shot 70 when everyone else was shooting astronomical scores, then he turns around, shoots 76 while the golf course is easy. Like, you know, you look at like the top players, they just hover around that average line and then have the rounds that jump way up high. Like Min Woo is like he's crypto, he is volatile, he is all over the place. So I don't know what that, what that means for, you know, him for, you know, the rest of this tournament, he shot 79 in

round two at the Arnold Palmer last week, shot 75 in round one and then turns around in his second place for the players championship the next week. Like I don't know what to expect from him. So let me press you, Sally, are you buying or selling Minwoo? You buying that coin tomorrow if he's crypto. Based on that, I think I'm selling. I don't I don't love that lasting. He was playing with extreme, extreme confidence today, watching that swing he took off 14 was like, oh, this dude is out there to go get it.

But showing up the next day is a different question on Sunday, final group, Scottie Schaffler, Tucson's. I would take Scottie with the two-shot lead ever, Menwoolie. Yeah, I would say at points. It was him. I think who else he was playing with I think Bizzadenhought and Wilgordon Maybe and it was it was there was not a whole lot of people watching that group there were maybe five or six people falling along with that group

But points during the front nine So it's gonna be a a different, different show tomorrow. So we'll see what happens. So you nailed it though with the, the way he was swinging the club. Actually, something Azinga brought up on the telecast. He like truly freed up, let it fly 12, 14, 18, the swings he made. Two of them with that, with the two iron was like fearless. So that is definitely encouraging,

but also like you said, I think is a good point. Like you should up tomorrow and you might not feel the same way. Does that continue in the final group? We'll see. Are we concerned about this leaderboard as a whole? Well, what's the reaction through three rounds? We were kind of expecting, you know, through two rounds

of kind of like, okay, this tournament takes a little while to get going, but through three rounds, what's the reaction to what we see up there? We have Tommy Flew with seven and T-4. I'm just gonna get T-C's down the leaderboard out of the way. Aaron Rye, T-4, Chad Ramey, T-4, Christian Bizzatin' Hode as well, and then Sung J. David Lingmerth, which we'll talk about in Tom Hogi at T-8. But it's taking, is it gonna take,

at the end of four rounds, is the cream gonna have risen in time? You're skipping, Cam Davis. We already mentioned him. I know, but he's, so he's four back. Scott, I mean, Scottie went out and shot 65 today. And I think we'd be talking about it a little bit differently if, you know, lead it was like at 10 or 12, but 14 is, that's kind of pushing a lot of the really good stuff down.

So yeah, I mean, it's a bad, it's a bit of bad board all week. I think it's an interesting board. It sums up how I feel when I try to make picks for this tournament. I got no, you got no pucks. You just got no clue who's going to play well. And two of the horses, Colin and Victor just decided they didn't they were going to opt out and unsubscribe today, which we can talk about in a second. And then you have which I'm encouraged by you've got Jason day and you've got Ricky almost like a little bit of nostalgia of like, oh, two guys that have won here. They played pretty well. They're, I would say, I mean, I think five under is probably too far back with Scotty at 13, but there's some familiar old names on the leaderboard.

You've got a bunch of random guys and you've got one horse at the top. So I don't know. It's, I think on a normal week, I'd be like, this is kind of a crappy leaderboard, but I think it kind of fits here because it's not. It's how I feel trying to make a pick for this tournament every year. It's just really hard. You just never know. How far back is too far back?

With Scottie on the lead. I think five is definitely, I don't think Scottie's going backwards and I think if you're at five, that's a tough gap tomorrow to close with. Like you said, with the Windy app TC, you know, if it's blowing out there, I don't think anybody's shooting, you know, a hoax coin course record tomorrow. Yeah. I think, all right. Do you guys want to apologize to Tommy and me? No, because it's a Saturday. I want to see what happens tomorrow. And I don't have a ton of confidence.

All right. 65 for Tommy today. Aaron Rye and I surround here to 65 as well. Chad Remy sticking around. Good for Chad Remy. A ton of I was going to actually maybe you know ask you guys to apologize to Chad Remy. I think you guys were not on the last two nights. No, I said if I'm Chad Remy, I'm sitting here thinking I'm sitting here however many strokes back he was and said the only thing that happens I made a quad when I made two pretty darn good swings just landed the ball in the wrong spot. Like I was I don't think I think we darn good swings just landed the ball in the wrong spot. Like I was, I don't think, I think we were kind of, when he was the top of leaderboards,

like yeah, okay, we're kind of rooting for him to come back a little bit, but now I'm, I wanted to keep rising. I want him to have a great, great day tomorrow. I see. What do you, you said night one? You said the odds were 150 to one for you to bet on Ramy to win. Would it have to be now? Well, that's a good question there.

Probably right around the same. I'd say 100 to one. I would take that. I got a big deal. He's 80 to one. He's 80 to one. After, yeah, 80 to one. Yeah.

I mean, Chad, so Chad, Ramy and Matt Wolf look very similar to me, just like their, their facial features, their sponsorships, all of it. I think the other thing is, Ramy had to play 17 when it was absolutely howling and firm as hell. Yeah. Some of those guys in the, in the early late wave got absolutely crowned. Cody, we pull that graphic up that golf channel threw up Friday, tweeted of, uh, of where Chad Ramy's ball landed in his second round, uh his second round versus, I forget whose ball it was

that backed up. Was that Dylan Wu or Brandon Wu to show that the Saturday result of the difference in the firmness of the rain coming overnight. There was a crowning and Chad definitely got the roll into the draw there. Totally. That's a great graphic, by the way. That is like telling the story of how conditions change a lot more than, you know, just, just saying it on repeat.

I'm impressed with some of the graphics they've thrown together this week. Very, very cool that this stuff's possible. You know, they continue to hold out on it. Come on, we're staying positive here TC. Come on. Well, it's almost like they frame it as like, hey, look, we're testing some new stuff out,

but that's BS because it's your biggest event of the year. So this wouldn't be the place to test things out. Like you'd probably want to test out new features at the Honda. So that's why I always baffles me when they roll out this new tech, like the wind thing saw that you were talking about, which is fantastic graphic. It should be like up every time somebody's playing 17, seeing where the wind's going. But this is the only place we do it.

And it's like, oh no, look, yeah, no, we're just doing some testing. It's like, I don't know, maybe you're just like holding back on me, man. But even like some stuff, like week to week, we can't even get a regular, just win gauge on certain important holes. Like we're backsliding some weeks,

like the spread between a good week and a regular week is getting wider and wider and wider on golf channel NBC. It's also like these these details mean so little when it comes to when your commercial load is what it is on a week-to-week basis. Like that's 99% of the problem, right? It's the rest is just kind of like picking nits, which I'm down I'm definitely down to do with UTC. But guys, we didn't get, I didn't get an answer from you guys on how far back is too far back. I think, I think seven hundred is definitely too far back.

And eight hundred is probably too far back. I don't think anybody eight hundred can win. I think the only guy at eight hundred really can win is SungJay. SungJay, yeah. I mean, SungJjae shot 64 today. Otherwise, I think it's probably the guys at 9. Christian was aidenho. Really impressed with him today.

69 today, hung right in. Yeah, I mean, Sungjae, Sungjae is kind of the dog that I'm looking at of like, all right, if it's not Min Woo, Cam Davis, Fleetwood, it's Sungjae is kind of the dog that I'm looking at of like, all right, if it's not Minwoo, Cam Davis, Fleetwood, it's Sungjae. Which it still would require like at minimum the second best player in the world to do a lot of backtracking, which is just not something that makes it. I feel like Scotty hit some weird, like some funky shots on the back nine today, though, he's not, he's not making the 10 footers, he normally.

Like he, he made the put put on 18 there, right? But he didn't make the put. He missed a few. All right, yeah, on 17. He missed on 17. But see, I almost feel like that, then you gotta watch out for those fall in the morrow. Right?

He goes, it's like that, it's gonna balance out a little bit. Like I don't think there's any way he finishes less than 16 under. It's kinda like, let's say 16, with the wind, let's call it 18 under. If he goes out and shoots 68, like who can get to 18? I think nine under is your kind of, as far down the leaderboard as you can go

with how far back is too far back. So I'm a little bit bummed that nobody else, like Hogi shot 62 today. I'm a little bit bummed that none of the big, big dog shot 63, 64, you know, kind of brought it, brought it today. A speed, a max, a more Kala. I mean, is it time to talk about more Kala? Can I just throw?

The shit? Can I throw a little love in for my guy, David Lingmer. Yeah, I think I was probably the story of the day. God, I'd love to talk about lingmer. I can't tell you how hard I was rooting for him. It's so much fun to watch. The guys, you know, coming off the corn fairy tour has history here, home game model. Sully, I'll let you take it away. I know this is your guy. I've probably said this on multiple shows

since the fall, really. But we've got to know David and his family through the last couple of years here. My wife is good friends with his wife. And the first time we had dinner with him was 2018 or so. And he was coming off in Elbow injury. And it was just kind of like, you were talking to a player that just kind of felt like a former player at that point

in terms of how he talked about golf and How he talked about losing his confidence and how it I was kind of like man as a short hitter battling injuries and your swing Like you're road back to this seems really really really windy and really difficult And I don't know if it's not that many guys that it all comes back for that fit that profile and following him week to week and following, you know, his battle and like playing with him a few times is been just kind of it's just these story of the grind of a of a journeyman golfer. And now 10 years after he finished runner-up to Tiger in 2013, he's back in the mix here in Pond of E3, he's a local guy in Pond of E3. He is hitting the ball. He averages 52 yards less off the tee than Roy does.

52 yards on average. Like that's not picking, like, you know, top drives out of that. That's the average. He's bottom five on the BGA tour and driving distance. And he's not even like that accurate off the tee at times. He's just that gritty and grindy. And a quick story back to, he had missed three cuts in a row going into Pebble Beach. And I got, I got invited to go out and play Cypress Point and I didn't know I was supposed to fill the

Forseum. And so the last minute the guy's kind of like, who are you bringing? I was like, oh, I don't have anyone. So I called David and I was like, hey, do you want to come play? And he's like, ah, I got a, you know, a practice round schedule with Jonas, but let me call Jonas and see if I can bail on that because I really want to, you know, kind of play Cybers and have a fun day. He does it, he comes out in plays and he was just like, being like, smile as wide as possible. For somebody that gets to play as much golf as you want

to get to, for him to experience that place and have the reaction that he had to play in that golf course. And he came home and I think he told his wife who related the message to us. Like he really needed that day to remind him like why he loves golf or why golf is, you know, why, you know, why he got into golf. And since then he's made three cuts in a row coming into this and now having this, you know, you know, you know, kind of bounce back and resurgent experience this week has just been really freaking cool to see

somebody on the grind at that level. So I'm so pumped for him and I hope he closes something out with maybe a top five tomorrow would be a great, great achievement. God, that's, that's sick. That's an awesome story. Solid taking credit for Limer's good. For sure. All of it is awesome. Makes me so happy. I want to, I want to cost you things with Limer.

He shot six under on the front nine at Cypress. I think that is more of what helped than than me as, as maybe probably the part of the story that I should have told. I think you shot even on the back nine, but it was more about the, it was about more than golf on that wall called the back nine. I think I saw God at one point out there. Watching in the day, you know,

you nailed it solid. Like the mental strength that takes to just be 50 yards behind everybody and applaud your way around the course I think a credit to TPC it allows a guy like that to be in the right spots and and you know Perform and still compete But I think his lag putting really stuck out to me. I felt like every time they showed him He had a long putt on eight. I remember one. He had one on 16 and he's got this funky putting Orm going on. He's got stuff to watch on the left hand

Kind of a like not even not even a broomstick. It's it's almost like a vacuum length. I don't know what he's Okay, well, it's kind of like you know, it's up to like his his The dice and I just think it's great though to see him. He, he, he did a really good job on the lag putting of giving himself stress free parts, which to me, when, when I play golf, always keeps around going. It's like if you're not just grinding over six foot par putts, you know, all, all day, it really frees you up when you do have a chance to make a birdie putt. You're not wasting it on a, you know, eight to 10 footer for par.

So the lag putting really stuck out to me. And I wanted to call that out just because the putting stroke is so unorthodox. KVV sending in some great notes in the in the private chat here that David would not, you know, when the players would come to town when he wasn't in the field, can you pull that back up Cody? He was, you know, he would, he would not, he said it was hard when the players would come to town every year and he wasn't in the field because he was living inside the gates of TPC and he said he went to a concert at the players one year but couldn't bring himself to attend the tournament any

of those years. It felt pretty damn good to be back. He went to the chain smoker. Oh, yeah. Now, David, I mean, it's just he's a second shot golf course of aunt like he's one at he's one at Mirfield. And he's played well here multiple times now. It's awesome. Yeah. The other thing I'd say about the this is the last thing for Lingworth is other than Max. And I would love it if

you guys had another guy, but who else can lose their game, kind of be in the wilderness, and then come back and almost have a better second act. Like, I think of Max with that, and I think of now Lingmurth, because I know maybe this isn't as good. I know he won one before on his first time around, but I just find it really, I get really excited when a guy comes back, you know, after having to grind on the mini tour, you know, on the corn fairy tour and makes a comeback. It's just there's so much competition coming up from college.

There's so many good guys down on the corn fairy tour. It's just really, really impressive to see guys do that. We talked about one of them, Ben Griffin. Yeah, Farina. Oh, I should have known that. They've told me about it. Team Rose came out and shit himself for a few years. I think just way back up.

I think to your question though, like whoever comes back with a better second act, that's an interesting question. Like I and Max comes to mind that I can point to that has done that after like a really storied amateur career and then, you know, high hopes when he turned pro initially. And I guess I'm thinking like, God, I would love to see Lingworth come back and get like, you know, really, I don't know if it would be better. It would be hard for him to, you know,

with a more like, can't lay has kind of done that. I know it was more injury related, but it was also injury related for David as well. Yeah. Yeah. And injuries just, that is a difference with Max. It is an injury instead of like the driver yips or, you know, just losing it.

But then credit to Max. That's awesome. More cowl. Somebody's in the comments, Neil, this is where you take credit from Max's rise for having him on strapped. I would love to look at that. We took him back home to where he grew up. I think, you know, out listen,

that some people wonder, maybe that, maybe he got back in touch with the game. It was cool. He maxed TN off on 15 and there's a couple in front of us and the wife turns to her husband and was like, as Max getting ready to hit, he's like, is this that guy you like? And he's like, yeah.

And he gets his phone out, getting ready to record Max. I was like, dude, that's the effect of all of the freaking media you've done over the last four or five years to, you know, promote the game of golf, promote yourself. And like, people need to be doing, professional golfers need to be doing more

of like what you're doing. But it was kind of cool to see like, that happened right in front of me. More Kawa, are you ready to do that? Fire it up. Yeah. Torrible. John Legend.

I can't make sense of it. We've been calling him the dome golfer, yet this was dome conditions today and he went backwards. He shot even par, which, but that was like three over par today. Like legitimately, I think the scoring average today was close to six. It was 69.5. So he basically shot two and a half over par in relation to the field when it was looking like that was his time to go out and get it, especially with the names that were in front

of them on the leaderboard. And I don't really have an answer to that. It's hard to bag on a guy that's won the events that he's won at this stage of a young career, but I just, I never, ever, ever know what expect from more. Kala. It's weird, right? It was almost like conditions were too easy or something today. And you know, I mean, loss strokes off the field or off the tee. He lost strokes around the green. He lost strokes, putting. And he hit like 70, you know, he hit 10 of 14 fairways. It's not like he was sprangling all over the yard. He's just off. And it's, you only hit 10 of 18 greens and reg.

Yeah, I just, I don't get it, man. I don't get how a guy can be knocking down pins. And then he looked hopeless on some of those pots. The irons looked off. It was just, it's a weird deal. I appreciate it. One of those watching from home, they didn't show much because obviously he was kind of got the drop from coverage. I was wondering, I was like, what's going on? You just wonder,

it's like, why are you not, you know, why is, what happened to Morkawa? Like, you turn it on on the back nine and he's just kind of on autopilot a little bit. Mark Cravenson, Morkau need solid to take him out golfing. I'm in on that. I think that's probably what he needs at this point. I'm in on that. All of them's another guy. Same thing, like, dude, you wanna know

what the worst sign is, but you mentioned Hovelin Morcaw earlier. One of you guys did, I forget who did. And I was like, oh, dude, I legitimately forgot about Hovelin today. I did not even think about the fact that he he shot 200 today, but that's going backwards today when everyone else was racing past him. Yeah, I feel like hovelin, there's something weird. I was talking to KVD

about this earlier. We're just sitting there kind of rehashing the day. And hovelin feels like he just misses big too much. He just weird big misses with the irons, and then I'm sure the chipping thing compounds that. The platter was cold as hell today. He was lost like. Second to last shot on the field in putting today, only to zalatorus. Yeah, but I don't know, it's just,

I, he's another guy, I just don't really understand his game. Can you see, I would agree with that. I think he gets, he misses big and then doesn't really understand his game. Can you see I would agree with that. I think he gets he misses big and then doesn't really have the tools to get at a trouble, right, which is kind of where sheffler separates from him. I think that's a really good perspective on that. I will say though, like Sheffler, I think that I like watching Victor play. I like the way he kind of gets the club through the zone. You know, he goes. I like watching Victor play. I like the way he kind of gets the club through the zone.

You know, he goes. I love the way he goes. I like watching him play golf. Like I root for him. I want him to break through. It just seems like he gets himself and I can relate. He gets himself in a mega bonus territory and kind of, I don't know. He seems to maybe worry about those misses and then maybe the chipping thing is like, oh, well, I can't, you know, I'm not scrambling well. So he just doesn't really have a get out of Jeff free card like some of these guys with the short game do. I thought the Ben Griffin walk and talk was a step up for NBC. That was the best one they've done of those.

It was Ben Griffin was really engaging. They kind of reverted back to talking about specifics around golf. I think they probably shoehorned it in a little too tough, too tight. He was kind of dropped off the pace on 11. So he was in the final group and he was not having a good day to that point. I think he was one over at that point. He drives it in the right trees and he just talks a lot about, you know, what he's going to do.

I'm going to lay up on the right. Am I going to lay up on the left? Do I actually have a great line here? I'm probably going to be sending it. They'd still take the airpods out for the player, Cady Convo, and hitting the shot, which I don't understand. But that was a step up and how they've done in the past. In terms of, you know, he was switched on.

He, a great nugget, he said, he's walking up to his eagle putt from the front of the green. He's like, actually, watch PGA tour live earlier. I watch Max Holma and Cameron Young have a putt from down here. I know it goes a little bit to the left. Like that was, that was a great little nugget. It was, it was more in line with what we've seen out of CBS than the previous, uh, NBC goes.

So I wanted to, wanted to note that one. So a couple of rounds. I want to call out, uh, Taylor Montgomery shot 66 today. I think this is a great golf course for him. And, you know, if he continues to play well into next season, I think he's a guy to look for of like dark horse candidate. Neil, I know a couple guys, you're, you're kind of riding for respecting a little bit. He's like late career Renaissance guys that could have gone to live like a Jason day or a Justin Rose or even a Ricky, right? There's, there are right? There's all three of those guys are at T14 right now.

I've been thinking a lot about that TC. I wonder if the seismic shifts in golf have almost gotten those guys off a autopilot a little bit of like, you know what? You know, hey, they probably got off some money and then they really did some reflecting and said, I don't know if I want to do that, but they weren't doing a whole lot on the PGA tour. Some guys leave. All of a sudden these guys get reinvigorated. They kind of get back at it.

Like I'm very interested in in Jason Day, just he's back on the first page of the leaderboard like every week and he's, you know, been just non-existent for the past four years. And before that, like I, today I was looking up some of his career. It's like, man, that guy was such a stud. And I wonder, what'd you say? So good. Oh my God. He was so freaking good.

And he's one of the best putters out there. And he has the complete game. Like he's won at the players. He's just won a bunch of different venues. And he just disappeared. And it's like, oh, does it life? Is it? Is he not like golf? Like I'm just curious. And I wonder, I think he and Ricky are kind of a good, you know, they're both kind of making a resurgence here. And it's good to see. I like, you know, I like that. And credit to Justin Rose too. Like when's it pebble and he seems

to be playing really good golf. And it's kind of fun to see those old names that now I, as I get older, guys that have been around, like, since the beginning of NLU, guys we were talking about a ton in 2014 and 2015, then didn't talk about them at all from 2019 till today. And all of a sudden, I'm like, oh, great. These guys are back in the mix. This is awesome.

Dave's been a butcher off the tee this week. He's 70th in the field, 69th in the field off the mix. This is awesome. Dave's been a butcher off the tee this week. He's 70th in the field, 69th in the field off the tee. Otherwise, he's, I mean, he's first around the green. He's hidden his irons really well. Putting's been decent, not great, but I feel like he's, he's got a little bit of a chance to kind of lament this one as one that got away. He's shot seven. I agree.

He's been really bringing it today. I kind of expected him to make a charge. I kind of picked him as a dark horse this week, but his game seems consistent. Like it's not a, you know, sometimes you expect like, oh, he's going to show up at Tori and then disappear again. But he's kind of, you know, stuck around and been on the leaderboard the last two months. Man, his 2015 was so sick. Five wins plus 2.52 in Strokes game for the year. And now he's back above two for the year in Strokes game. Like he is half a shot off his peak right now. I mean, it's, it doesn't really quite have the finishes as much as it has been wildly

consistent week to week is is you know, I'm saying he hasn't had the top five finishes. He's got T 10 T nine solo fifth7, T18 in his last five starts on top of four other top 25s in the fall last year before we flipped over to 2023. It's been really, really, really good. Speaking of really, really, really good, let's talk about the opposite of that speech. Yeah, please, Cody, can you flash up that graphic guys?

I don't know. Some people in Kyle Porter, he said, there you flash up that graphic guys? I don't know some people In Kyle Porter he said there have been worst shirts in this So I'm gonna walk back I tweeted out earlier like this is the worst of the worst But I mean it's Jordan in the amazing Technicolor golf shirt like what are we doing at under armor? Can we free? We said an intervention like it's just it these stripes patterns that they roll out are are fucking atrocious And it's it doesn't matter what color they do with them just these stripes patterns that they roll out are fucking atrocious. And it doesn't matter what color they do with them.

Like they would still be atrocious and then they pick like bright pink and it takes it to another level of atrocious. And I don't know if like I've kind of, is speed in the meeting like Moorakawa like on full swing is he picking this out? Like I'm kind of worried that we may need to blame Jordan. Like I don't know who to blame, but I just think it's a I think it's a travesty what

Under Armour rolls him out in. I'm just I we were making progress. He had some good ones earlier in the week, kind of some cool like stripe like weird. He had a great fit. Yeah, it was nice. I just under armor seems to be all into these stripes. And then now we're, I don't know what we're doing here, but I don't like it. I don't like it at all. He, uh, speed had a good round today. Um, Bogey free.

I felt like he, he was really well rounded. I followed for most of it. He had some pots that he had well that just didn't go in. He had a nice birdie on nine. He had a really good shot in and on eight. I'm buying speed stock. I think the putter is going to get hot. It's been a full-speed experience this week.

69, what is it? 69, 75, 66. And 75 makes on the number bouncing off some guy's and then comes out balls out on Saturday like I love it I love everything about it and I'm with you TC I'm buying stock it seems like he's you know he doesn't look Quite as comfortable over his putting but it seems like he's found something and he's sticking to it. He's gotten rid of the pre shot routine I you know he's gonna he's making it work. I like gotten rid of the pre-shot routine. He's making it work. I like it.

KVV sent this over about his putting. He said, the question was, are you slightly more bent over putting? He said, yeah, I guess so. It's more like, it's more a left arm elbow feel for me than anything, but I'm getting, and I'm just trying to lock in this left side, which I may be a little more bent over

than what I've been at my best, but the traction of everything is just to match. My ceiling putting has been the best in the world. And the question was, what was the reason for the change to be more solid inside 10 feet? He said, I had a tendency for a few years that it's been a really bad tendency. I was trying to continue to find ways

instead of just in a path field, but actually in a big, I'm trying to take my hands out and use my big muscles more. I've always been a little handsy putting in a good way. A lot of great putters are handsy. Ricky Fowler and Tiger uses hands, Ben Crenshaw. So I think I'll always have that, but I was relying on it. God, that's awesome.

The classic spieth answer where you're like, that wouldn't allow it in different directions. Yeah, yeah. No, now that you've explained it to me, I'm more confused. I'm, I would like to invest. Where do I sign? Is it, is it good though that he references Ricky who was super handsy and now Ricky's using, yeah, counterbalance to long time.

I don't know. I said it. Maybe it was, maybe it was KVV, but I, I would like to see Jordan maybe experience, experiment with a mallet. Uh, just maybe, you know, maybe a little bit more weight at the end of the club head and I don't know. At a certain, he's almost experimented with everything else but the change in the putter up.

At a certain point, I wanna see him stop experimenting though, right? I mean, to still be talking about that a month out from the masters, it's like dude, I don't know how, it's kinda like, are you keeping all of the, if you're changing your variables consistently, like you don't have, you're not like gathering enough data to figure out what works and what doesn't.

Just thinking back on the smiley coffin conversation we had of, you know, every time I went to the range, I was trying something different. Like you're not like letting, setting time in, you know, to figure things out and whatnot, but I don't know. When Speed was playing his best, was he, like in 2014, 2015? Was he just not thinking about any of that stuff or was he experimenting and getting different feelings?

And because it feels like he's a guy that almost needs something to be working on or needs something to keep him engaged with his golf swing. I feel like he played with no scar tissue for like three full seasons. Maybe even four. But scar tissue is a different deal. Scar tissue's mental.

I'm talking about like technique, right? Of, of, you know, feeling like he needs to get to a new position every so often. DC from honestly like playing with him and Hawaii and being in the cart with him. I think he's chasing fields. And he that's how he's explained it to me. I asked him, I was like, you did this pod with Sally, you know, back in 2016 and you're

talking about how you had three different swing fields. And he was explained, it's like, yes, I'm trying to get back to one of those three. But he was like, what it feels like to me is actually now doing the opposite like on camera, you know what I'm saying? So like what it feels like he feels like he's coming inside or whatever, you know, in that like 500 word answer that you just got. That's what he's trying, like physically, it feels the same, but then I see it on camera and it's totally different.

The path of the club is different. So it's like he's combining this, like I think he's chasing a field, but he has all this date. So it's like he's combining this like I think he's chasing a field, but he has all this date He's using all this data and stuff to like you know, uh, yeah I think you should that's the right thing you should take credit for the the knowledge drop bomb you dropped on them Right as we are finishing right. It's never as bad as it looks and it's never as good as it looks That one seemed to really resonate with I gotta get credit for that I gotta get credit to nori's Wilson my Columbia football coach The eye in the sky doesn't lie.

It's never as good as you think. It's never as bad as you think when you watch the film. So that was a word to live by a mediocre football career. But yeah, it did seem to stay. I thought it was messing with me. No, I think you like that. Yeah, which I think for speed is probably, you know, I feel like he does probably get pretty down on himself and feel like it's awful, but I

don't know. He's he is the definition of the artist. He's awesome, man. I love watching play. Do we need to worry about I'm just looking through putting stats from this week? Well, JT and Zalatoris, like really, really bad putting week. Not good. Like, yeah, I know JT was messing around with a different

putter. Speaking of change up the putter early in the year and looks like he went back to the, you know, the mallet or the claw button. It's so frustrating to watch him play golf when he's not getting the ball in the hole. Because he does all the like really hard stuff so well. Yeah, I think there's something to I think we talked about this, I forget if we talked about it on the pod at all, but we, you know, we're always quick to say like when conditions get hard or when a certain shot is required, like JT is the dude that has like all the shots, like shot more shots than anyone else.

Yet at the same time, I don't think that's as valuable as like having one really good shot. Like I'd rather have John Rums like consistent fade to be able to play a lot, then be able to do the nine different shots that Tiger used to be able to do. Because it just doesn't seem like Pro Golf asks for that as often as it would seem like it would. It just seems like, I can't marry up the lack of results we've seen from him with the fact that when you go watching him, it's like, oh shit, do that's so freaking cool to watch you carve that six iron into the back left pin

in a different shape than you did on the previous hole. Yeah, at the same time, it's kind of like, yeah, that's maybe not that required in Progolf anymore. It's a good point. I also feel like he doesn't, he doesn't, he does really well when he's in position, like, you know, on Saturday night, going into Sunday, but it's like he,

the Thursday, Friday, Saturday stuff, he's not putting himself in position to go get a win enough. And I think that's probably, to your point, T.C., like consistency on the putting green. You know, it's like, it's making those, those six to eight to 10 footers, to, you know, be in the top five, basically.

I also think like I was trying to figure out a way to phrase this when I was talking with Cody earlier about, you can almost, you can convince yourself pretty easily. If you have a bad week at the players to like throw that result out. Like I don't know what this similar test is here. I don't know what it means for the rest of your year. I don't think it really means anything. It's like, you know, you can have a great result. Obviously, you can take the confidence that comes with that. But I would not kick myself too much if I had a bad week

at TPC Sawgrass. I just don't think it... Yeah, but that's where I push back a little bit when guys put poorly here. Like, it's one thing to have a bad week at TPC Sawgrass. T to green because it is funky and you know there's a lot of weird shit going on and it's very technical but I think greens are that's up. Putting yourself in position on that like the greens are

smooth and they're not crazy tricky like you know you're trying to make birdies. That's where I struggle a little bit with that with, with like, that's why I call out J T and Zalatoris there because it's kind of, it's like, hey, this is concerning. It would be a lot more concerning or a lot less concerning if their iron play wasn't good or if they were just missing a bunch of fairways. Let's separate that out. T C because I'm with you and that J T's putting is a trend that lasts beyond, you know, just this week.

I think just in general of like, not overreacting to this week is something that, yeah. If I was Rory or Rom or whatever, I know Rom withdrew with an illness, I just would not let this week get me down too much. The only thing that I add there is that coming from Bay Hill or it's very, very grainy still and then coming up to an overseas,

I wonder how much that throws guys off. Yeah. Cody, would you miss anything else? Tons. What else? As always, well, we got a whole bunch of leaderboard to go down to. We still have this Rory. No, I think today was an a-no, I think we've gone so far down this this freaking leaderboard pretty naturally. Yeah, that's the way to do it. We want to get some more sort of there's some worried quotes today. I think we should definitely get to. Yeah. Couple of things before we get there. Neil, one of the highlights of the day was walking down five, which kind of backs up to the backside of the range there. And

Ches, Ches was Ches stuck around. He was on the backside of the range, absolutely grinding. I love it. Trying to get inside that top 70, inside that top 50, you know, put me in coach. I'm trying to get in these designated events next year. I love it. TC, I appreciate you doing that recon for me.

Ches Fest was going on while Beds Fest was also going on the course. I saw the Tannibal today was out there. Adam Scott, very, yeah, Cody's got the shirt on right now. Adam Scott had had, you know, he's got all sorts of different stuff going on this week. He had cream colored pants on the other day with a white shirt, just like the painter outfit. Today he had, he had the cream colored pants on the other day with a white shirt, just like the painter outfit. Today he had the cream colored pants on with a tan hat, a tan sweater, just majestic. He's the big pantone man. Nobody gets into the, just the tops and the tans and grays like

Adam Scott. It's impressive. The spectrum within that certain sandbox that he's able to put out there in this fashion. Sandbox, no pun intended. That's right. I do want to say something about Christian Beseidenhote, I believe I pronounced that correctly. A lot of times on the broadcast, they flash up like, oh, you know, this guy doesn't hit it as far as, you know, he's not long off the tee and then they show his like track man stats and he's like 178 ball speed or like 172. And so when they say that, I expect it to still make me feel like a mere mortal. Because they know they flashed up, he was hitting like 164 off the tee. And I was like, no, you guys weren't kidding. And so I think that's, you know, really impressed. He's got a real smooth move on the ball. And I don't, I don't mean, I ball. And I don't mean that as a diss, it's just more impressive.

And again, back to the conversation we have about lingmer. Like this course allows guys like that to compete. And I wish there were more courses like that on the PGA tour. Yeah, I'm back and forth on that. Like in theory, I agree. Yet I'm also like, ah, this leader sports now I agree yet. Also like this leader, it's not really good for fair. I just I mean, there's some guys that I wish you could play the game with different styles, if that makes sense.

So I know what you mean about like, yeah, some of these are not fun names to watch, but I wish there was a dominant golfer that didn't have to hit it, you know, didn't have to be the track man guy. I guess is where I'm where I'm getting it. And maybe I'm off base with that. No, no, no. Yeah, these guys are freak athletes. Tom Kim's kind of something that we can look to in that regard, being hopeful. I think it goes to like the creativity required in, you know, on like British open courses is where my mind goes on that versus like, I don't have as much fun watching guys navigate this course. But

Harbor Towns a good, a good comp. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like that'll be, that'll be an elevated event. Can I get you David Lindmerts ball speeds with driver today, Neil? Now that you brought this up, 159.2. Yeah. That is off the first, off the first tee he hit driver on two at 159.1 hit driver on four at 160 driver on five 161 we got heated up a little bit there

driver on six at 159 driver on 7 160 driver on 9 160 driver on 10 161 159 off 11 hit a fairway wood off 12 and then on 14 we hit 160 15 160 3 161 and then the last other one the water 160 so he did not get above 163 and both he's crazy. He's the human second serve. I love it. That's awesome. Some Rory quotes if you will allow he missed the cut today. He said, you know, there's, he got a question after there's a theory that everything else on schedules, board meetings, talking about all this stuff is taking quite a lot out of you. What do you make of that?

Is that fair? He said, Roy said, yes, it is fair. I'd love to get back to being a golfer. Yeah, look, it's been a busy couple of weeks. It's been honestly a busy sort of six or eight months. But as I said at the start of the week, everything has sort of been announced now and the wheels have been put in motion. So it should obviously

quiet down from here. The question was, how hard has it been to just focus on being a golfer? He said, yeah, it's just a time management. The golf out here, that's fine, but it's more the time at home to make sure you're getting prepared to make sure you're doing everything you can to be ready once you show up those weeks. That's where I've maybe sacrificed a little bit of time with some of the other stuff. As I said, I'm ready to get back to being purely a golfer. Cool, Jay. Time to step up. Time to get in front of the media.

I would also like to see Rory get back to being a golfer. I think that's, you know, yeah, I, and I, I think last year it almost felt like when he took up the torch of like, hey, rally around me, I'm sticking around and became kind of the face of the new PGA, whatever you want to call it. I think that inspired him and I give him a ton of credit for like being outspoken, being the leader and then backing it up on the course and just balling out. And then at some point though, you're going to run yourself rag. And it feels like, you know, which actually reminds me of, I think it was two years ago when he was, he had those quotes about trying to keep up with Bryson.

Yeah. You know, like the CBT did all his speed training and it came into players and missed the cut. And, you know, it feels like he's struggling with the driver a little bit and you know, maybe he just needs to, I think he needs to reset some things before Augusta. So maybe it's a blessing that he missed the cut. He can go get some rest and get ready for match play and then, you know, shit all over Valero. And his answer.

Did you guys hear that? Yeah, he says not, not going to play Valero this year. Just going to play match play. It wasn't, wasn't a fan of doing that after last year. So I feel like he's got to, I think we're on approach number 12 going up into Augusta in terms of, I would have thought he would have done that

after finishing second last year and probably his best master's he's had. But yeah, we got a brand new approach, shocking for Rory coming into the matches, but also he should be shutting down. We're gonna be the block party ready. We're still gonna be ready to go, we're going to have the beers on ice, that the high noons on ice. We're we're picking Rory to win the masters. I don't care. I don't

care what we're seeing right now. He should shut off all PGA tour hats that he's wearing as of like right now. Like it is major championship season and I would just sit back and relax and not relax, but like, hey, just take the back seat on the PGA tour stuff for now because we're getting near the end of the important part of the PGA tour schedule. At least as I see it and it's major championship time and it's time to peak for that. So I mean, then Jay needs to get up and do some stuff in front of people, you know. I see I wholeheartedly agree with that. It it feels like I don't know.

It's almost like they prepared for the players press conference to be the big unveiling. And then it got leaked. And I don't know. It's just like maybe just get out and more informally. I know KVV wrote about this in peace. You know, this week, it's like, we'd like to see it, you know, getting in front of the mic a little bit more, just be a little bit more approachable, like the commissioner.

That's, that's also it seems like the neck, like, that's where I struggle with a little bit with Rory. Like, can he do that? Because it's going to be like they're, they're trying to hammer out all these details. They're still going back and forth. They're still, there's still three months to go or four months to go until they're going to announce the new schedule. There's still a lot of shit to be worked out, a lot of stuff

behind the scenes. It seems like that's the world chirping everybody. But that seems removed from his realm as of now though. The details of it are to be worked out with the tour. The structure is there, but the details of the schedule, I do not think like, I don't know. In my mind, I don't know what goes on. I'm gonna go solid on that. I think, and that's why it is a great time for the commissioner to kind of take the wheel because it doesn't feel like any big names are gonna jump.

Right? Here's the plan, guys. This is what we've laid out. Here's all the money. Here's how we're gonna do things. And other than like you said, the Ryan Armors, the James Hans that are unhappy about it, it doesn't feel like anybody that no offense is meaningful is gonna like, you know, is like, hey, I saw lives plan and their plan is better. It doesn't feel like that's gonna happen in the next two, three months. No, if it does hand up, I'll, you know, I'll be wrong, but that

that seems to be, there seems to be a, you know, he's a tourist moving on. It is moving on. We're focused on legacy. And not leverage fly the, like, I don't want to talk about lips and all that, but the funniest thing to me is like, these guys, like Ryan armor being like, you know what? Like maybe live did have, maybe live did have it right. You know what, Phil, the whole reason that Phil wants to live was because he wanted to get away from Ryan Armor. Like, Ryan Armor and these guys were like,

you know what, like Liv's doing this over there. It's like, yeah, Liv fucking hates you. Like, that's the whole point. I went Ryan Armor on the pod after his cup. It's this week. I'd love for him to just to talk for like 20 minutes on all the reasons why it's like screwing him and why it's bad and then just like get to that point and be like, okay, now convince me the golf fan why any of that should matter. Like I get like all

of your points you made convince me why this golf should matter in some way, but that's a that's a whole different. That's the craziest part about the Ryan armors and the James Hans, it's like the board, they talk them where they prove points for us, right? And it's, you know, I think some of this stuff is like there's been people even today, like complaining about the leader board and it's like some of them, they're saying people complaining about smaller fields or not having a cut. And it's like, well, which one is it, man? Like, do you want to have a guaranteed great leader board every time? Or do you want to have a guaranteed great leaderboard every time, or do you want to have

a super democratic system where it's a crap shoot and the entertainment value goes out the window a little bit? And I think, you know, there's always a balance there, but I think the balance needs to be, let's try out the, the guaranteed entertainment factor a little bit more than we have here in the past. Yeah. All right. Let's wrap it at that.

Thank you, everyone, for tuning into the Saturday live show from the players here. Cody, absolutely killing it on the ones and twos here tonight. TC, thank you for your input. As always, Neil, thank you for coming in from the bullpen, giving us three and two thirds strong innings after the starters. You know, we're getting a little fatigued early on. So thank you for that. So thanks for tuning in. We will be

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