No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 664: Wednesday Masters Happy Hour

Episode Date: April 6, 2023

If you have two preview shows, do you even have one? We went live with a special Wednesday preview on the eve of the 2023 Masters talking about developments on the week, Ridley's press conference, Phil's bizarre champion's dinner behavior, Tiger's comments, Bryson, and a lot more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah. That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to a little bit of an impromptu. Happy hour.

If you have two matches, previews, do you even have one? Sally here, gonna do a quick hit here on Wednesday night. We cannot contain our excitement for the first major of the year. DJ Pies here. He had to sit out the preview pod. He's controlling his energy, but he's here. Hello, Pie, man. I'm controlling. I'm going. I'm taking the Rory approach. You know, I feel like Rory tries something different at the Masters every year. I'm doing the same thing. I'm not plugging myself into the 72 hour content drip. I've gone to a couple baseball games. I've checked out a little bit. I've checked in a little bit.

And now I'm so fucking ready to go for the Masters. It's I think this is going to be the strategy. I can't wait. Can't wait to be here. He doesn't even, I don't even care about it really anymore. It's just a brand new approach. Just another opposite of that. It's just the opposite. It just doesn't need this. It's just another tournament. Yeah. That is the voice of Kevin Van Volkkenberg, Mr. KVV, is on site here at Augusta. What's up KVV? So I'm calling from a soulless Airbnb in the middle of Augusta that, as you can see, is just full of life and character. I want you to know that Rory is aware of that take.

He was teasing me about it. It's the players this year. It was like, well, you know, Kevin, I've heard that from you before about me. I got to try a new different thing every master's. So just so it, Roya for listening, you know, we'll come up with some other takes for you by the end of the episode. And also see you wrong.

If you're, if you're listening, please don't. Just unplug. This is not what you should be doing the night before the master's. Please don't be listening. Be a goldfish for. Yeah. Do less. Please listen to less podcasts.

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game. I mean, you could, they're comfy, but that would be a lot. I don't quite, not quite to that level. I don't think I've gone with the sleep in it. So all right, a lot to react to from this week. Fred Ridley had a press conference today. Tiger Woods has spoke since we had our preview podcast. The pairings have come out. There's been a lot of feedback on the 13th whole KVV. I'll go to you. You are in in Augusta. You've been on site. I'll go to you first for kind of your reactions to Fred Ridley's comments today. What's up. How's you the most? I think what mostly what I took away from was just this idea that the masters may not

say at this point that they're going to support the MLR sort of ball. No, but they're going to support it. No comment in a comment period. Like essentially, Ridley said that. Like, I think you can point to like our past comments on the distant stuff and you can know where we stand. Like, I won't do my friend Ridley voice just in case I get dragged out of there tomorrow. But I feel like it was not unexpected.

We all sort of thought that he would, I thought maybe they would come out a little stronger. I mean, this idea that they want to refrain comment and let the other people comment before they decide what they're going to do. Like, they're part of the people driving the bus, you know, they're a bus driver, as Charles Barclay would say. So that was, I think, what stuck out a lot. I think it, it was, he was careful in his words of saying, like, look, we, we support the governing bodies, right? And hinting

like this proposal that it's out there, we support, he didn't pretend like that solves all the issues. He didn't pretend like, hey, if they change from this, it doesn't mean we're going to necessarily support the issue specifically But hey they have a trust in the governing bodies and you know didn't explicitly say like we got a problem with distance But alluded to like as we've been consistent with our comments on distance in the past like there's something going on Here that needs to be resolved so I want I wonder if they kept the receipt from that land purchase of a Gust of country come I wonder if can get their money back on that.

If this rollback goes through, that might be a nice 30 mill to get back in the pocket. Well, what's the, what's the return policy? I mean, I'm sure that was 20 days, I think, I think you get 120 days. I think we're by be pass that. What, what's the chatter on 13 so far, KVV? I'm getting bad vibes. I'm getting a lot of, you know, Dustin Johnson's talking about laying up. You know, we talked a little on the preview preview pod on Monday about how kind of 15 was semi-ruined last year by conditions and the new T.

Getting bad vibes on 13 and the back night of the Gus and National looks a lot different if 13 and 15 are a little bit less exciting. But what's your reaction to what you've heard on site so far? There seems to be a lot of people sort of saying, well, you know, now I'm going to have to lay up, you know, but I, you know, really just winding. Is it just a little bit of pamperedness? Okay. I think, you know, Ridley made the point that he had played with Scotty Sheffler and he was like, Scotty had five iron in, you know, both the times that we played.

So, you know, I think what's interesting is he's sort of essentially saying, it's a decision now, right? It's not just a no-brainer thing. It really very much pointed out today, like, it's going to be great to see them hitting four irons, you know, or five irons and having to choose instead of eight iron. I think that's a very in line with what exactly they want. I mean, Roy's basically said that he still thinks it's, you know, very much in play, but, you know, Tiger said it's sort of, you it's more of a momentous decision, essentially.

I was a little bit surprised by DJ's comments just because they just seemed for him like a little bit kind of, I don't know, whiny. He usually wouldn't say that kind of thing. I think Bubba was whining a little bit. I think you'll see plenty of people go for it. It's just going to be two tantalizing, not two. And ego will get involved. And they'll, you know, they've come to expect the thing that they deserve an eagle or an eagle chance on that whole. And so I think they're going to see moments where it's like, all right, I got to go for this or else. I'm going to be losing strokes to the best players who are going for it. And that's, that's exactly where I'm at, which I think is, is hard to get excited about early in the week, but I think it is just going to kind of keep getting better and

better and better, right? It's like everybody's going to start Thursday with the game plan of just maybe a layup, no big deal. No big deal. We'll just we'll just be real patient. And like that is a gust of national in a nutshell, right? As soon as it's like, Hey, man, it's it's 217. Like you don't you're telling me you don't you don't want to go for that? Like, Oh, come on. I mean, just one time. I'll go for it, right? Or like you get to Sunday afternoon and you get coming down the stretch. And like if there's a few, like if there's less people going for it Thursday,

Friday, I think that kind of blends in with the rest of the coverage, right? I think to what you guys are saying, there's still going to be enough people going for it and the coverage flies around and you're still going to see some looks at, you know, guys who are going for it and it'll be, it'll be a good mix on the telecast. But coming down to Sunday, all of a sudden, it's, it's a decision. And I think that's what's so freaking exciting about it. I, I actually like the more I've thought about it, the more, the more in and in on it, I, I kind of am. I think if you need an eagle, like, and you don't go for it,

like, you're kind of look like you're got less. I mean, you've got to go against our whole ethos of right of, you know, I think that's what you're chasing. That was always the thing in the masters. Like, all right, there's chances for you to go after it, but if you don't take them, you can't do something heroic. I hate the part where almost everyone has said the t-shirt takes less thought. Now, it's just like that.

That's kind of the, I'll just flat out say this. The 13, what has made 13 special Over the years over many many decades is gone, right? It is like it's not the same like the shot with modern equipment from 545 is not the same as the one from even 500 yards with without advanced equipment the whole point of the hole Was how much risk do you want to take on getting it around the corner? Do you want to play the Bernard longer play, which if you go back and watch his master's wins, like he plays it along the creek for the flatest spot in the

best angle. And if you don't want to take that risk on, you end up up on the hill and you got to play the hanging lie shot that we've seen guys struggle with for so many years. And that is no longer what the T shot is. It's just a send driver as far out there as you can. And the real good three shot holes in golf are a required different navigator,

certain navigating with the T-shot and the layup for it to be a great three shot hole, which is now it's gonna be like, all right, I'm gonna try to hit the perfect drive. If I don't, I got a million yard wide fairway to lay up on it's a relatively easy layup and I think that takes so much character out of the hole. Well, wait and see, I mean,

I think it's gonna be a Northeast win for a lot of this, which is going to help it going to be a little in off the right off the tee shot, but should be helping someone second shot or helping you get around the corner to at least a little bit, which I think is going to lead to some guys going for it unless it's a total stop fest out there. But it this not everyone will see this or agree with this or recognize it or even understand it, but the whole from farther up with less, with less than modern equipment is very different than what we're going to get. You just can't, you can't simulate the same thing with what how far the ball goes these

days. Yeah, I think that's, I think that's spot on. And I also think like there's no way we will remember this probably in real time or be self-aware about this, but honestly, like not a great year to even judge the success of the changes, right? If it's cold and wet and windy and, you know, it's gonna be a little different than how it might play next year or for the next 10 years.

But like we've said in the preview, they've handcuffed themselves by not having flexibility in the T boxes. That's very true. And they did it. That's what happened 15 last year anyway. So, they don't have the money to build all these T-cells.

I'm just sad that we never got to see Bryson try his strategy of hitting it up into 14 fairway. Yeah, this original thing of just like, Oh, I'm just going to hit it absolutely all the way up there and take the mega angle in that that never quite came to fruition. You're going to talk about Bryson's presser. Have you guys? Can we do Phil first from the champion center golf dot com article that Tommy Aaron said Augusta Chronicle.

Well, it's the proper credit. Sorry. I should not be crediting the aggregators. That's that's on me. Augusta Chronicle. Tommy Aaron, I believe noted that Phil Michkelson did not speak a word during the Champions dinner. Yes.

So fuzzy Zeller also used that same phrase. Yeah, he skipped himself. He didn't say a word to anyone. Like what's kind of psycho behavior is that, man? Like I get that Phil is like annoyed by some of the like the things that people have said about him or whatever. I get that there's probably been some recalculating of he doesn't want to sort of put his foot in his mouth or he feels like every time he does, he gets criticized.

But like to just sit there quietly by yourself and not talk to anyone, oh, that's weird. I mean, like every other report has been like, hey, like dudes are getting along fine. Like, you know, it's like old times. It's good to see people and it's mostly coming from the live guys at one everyone to think that everything is all cheery and that they're not suing both the PGA tour and a guesnation but like everyone's like I'm so I'm talking to people like they show clips on the range of like live dudes talking to PGA tour dudes it's just not it's not at that level and Phil just like refusing or like choosing not to talk to anyone at that is fucking psychotic, man.

It's so weird. That's too creepy. I thought the room was bugged, maybe. There are, everybody's out to get them. That's a good point. You never know when you might get dragged into an embassy somewhere. I said this before we came on, but Spencer Hall, a long time hero of this and many other programs.

Tweeting the similarities between Phil and Jack Nicholson's character and the shining. And just like, Phil, maybe you've always been in Augusta National, you've always been the caretaker. Some of the side by side photos, just really, really high quality stuff. And I think this is kind of in light, maybe he's just losing it. All work in no play. Maybe makes, makes, Phil, a very, very, very, very dull champions dinner attendee. TC wanted us to speak out against Scotty style sliders. I think inquire, right? What, like, what does that mean? What does Scotty

think he was a gas at them? I think he is expecting us to share his total dismay at what these people ate for dinner last night. So I just needed to mention that. That was all he asked for tonight's show. I'm guessing, Discottie style. Just mean you got a franchise on it. I think it's like supposed to be a little slider bite. I don't know if he thought it was too big. It was supposed to be I don't I don't understand what he's upset about. I really don't. But I should be a Permanente style. That's the case put in the franchise on the actual something I Do regret to inform people and I got a lot of questions about this one

I put a call out for questions that we did not cover on our first preview the who will not win Which is a tradition of the major previews? You got to put some skin in the game You got to take one of the favorites and you got to list them off and say this person will not win this tournament. Only a few of us have gotten bit by it in the past. So we are going to go on record. I'm going to start with you KVV. You're new to this game, but you got to pick a relative favorite. We can finish with if you want, but a lot of the names are going to get taken. I'm going to warn you, you've got to pick a relative favorite. There's no rules on where the cutoff is. If you use,

you know, kind of use your best judgment. Don't be a scumbag situation and say, who will not win the Masters? Zander Shoffley will not win the Masters. Okay. That is my pick. I wanted to pick JT, but I've gotten trouble previous for that. And I know another person on our staff wants to pick JT.

So I'm going to just sort of, you know, as a, I'm going to take one for the team and pick Sander. That is T.C. pick as well. Just to put that in for the record, which is fine. Pick again. No, I pick first. If you want, you can do a Randy thing because Randy, Randy always does more than one, which we'll get to his in a second. But that's my pick. I'll take it with it. I will go. I don't think this is that controversial. I know Neil like has been on this block for just eight months of all cams going to be so angry, man,

he's going to just kick the damn door down. All this, I don't think cams going to play well this week. And I don't think he's played well the last couple of weeks. Do it. Maybe Augusta is, you know, it's going to reinvigorate him and all this stuff, but I don't think that's totally how pro golf works unless you're maybe Dustin Johnson and maybe Brooks Capka, right?

I think like I've said this a million times, but the reason seemingly the reason came like had this meteoric rise over the last couple years is because he was just working his ass off to become just a little better at everything, a little better at everything, a little better at everything, and it just added up to like this total package that was this complete world-beater, and I this is wildly unfair of me. I don't know what he's been doing behind the scenes. Maybe he has been working his ass off. Certainly doesn't seem like it

from the results in the live events coming into this. So I'm gonna say, came Smith will not win the Masters. I love what Alex Grover's promote asking me to do here, which is pick Shessler, which is the ultimate. You said Rory. You said Rory before we hop down, right? Because you're not going to the block party? Oh my God, I can't, I can't, I can't with you guys.

I'm gonna take two names just because one is kind of, I feel like kind of a given at this point. Fuzzy Zeller. It feels like a little, a little cheap at this point to take Kent Lake, because he's not been a factor in major championships, but he is one of the favorites and I do not think Kent was gonna win. So in that, but he is one of the favorites. And I do not think he's going to win. So in that, I will take off course could be his week.

I will take a second name, which again, it pains me to do this, but I just in time is not going to win the Masters. I will I will I will put two names out there. I'm not afraid of getting KVV'd. I will stand up on this pod on Sunday and apologize if that is the case, but that is those are my picks to not win. All you have to do is not write it down. Then no one knows.

No one knows anything that's set on a podcast. But if you write it down for sure, you're F'd. Yeah. I think that's right. You guys should have told me that before. There's an expiration date on all of this. Neil submitted his, but I type out it into the agenda. Do you remember what Neil's pick was?

No, I saw the agenda said that Neil picked KVB and not win, but I typoted it into the agenda. Do you remember what Neil's pick was? No, I saw the agenda said that Neil picked KVB and not with. Which I was curious how, where you were going with that. No, Neil said, like, no offense, but yeah, I don't think he's gonna wait either. Neil also picked Justin Thomas, so you still. Okay. Maybe he okay, that's where I messed up.

I may not win the masters in place. Clear? Maybe you also might not win the masters lottery. You might not get, oh, look at that. I did put in my name today, just in case, who knows, I'm sure that there's been a real dearth of like 10 handicaps out there shooting 105. So, we got a standing 10, 30 meeting on Monday mornings,

KVV. As long as you're done before that. See if you can get first off, I guess. Okay, yeah. That's all I find. Are you guys ready for Randy's picks to not win the Masters are always are we ready ready to not win the 2023 Randy Masters Randy slat comma big selects Rory Zander rom hovelin can't lay JT cam Smith Bryson Brooks Fleetwood Fienau and of course Ricky and that is quote Ricky's not even the field. He's not in the field but he's driving a little gratuitous

throw it at the end But it those are those are Randy's picks. So I left out more a cow. Oh, yeah, he also chose it is draft King's picks But basically he needs more a cow to win for that not to come true Wow, I think that if the PJ tour player wins that Ricky should be there storm the green like the live players say that they're going to storm the green. That's this is Ricky's fucking house, right? Like we're those rickies game way before the live players are in to get and run it onto the green. 18 young men dressed all in orange. Rodding on the green.

Really put really put Norman in a body bag a couple of times today. What did he say exactly? Little Norman. I missed that part. So one of the Australian media people basically said, you know, why wasn't Greg invited? And I don't want to, maybe it wasn't Australian media person. I don't want to. It's not that.

It was. But it did sound like it was. And really said, basically, you know, like I wanted this to focus entirely to be on the champion, the championship this year. And frankly, Greg has only been here twice in like the last 10 years. And one of them was as a commentator for a serious X radio. So the other time, the documentary about himself and the N.S.X. master's eyes.

So it really was basically like he's with like sort of subtly implying this is a really like opportunistic complaint from Greg. Like he wouldn't come in here until all of a sudden, you know, it was convenient for him to come here to make it about himself. And it was the same for the Open Championship last year that he was not invited to the whatever that was. And it's like, yeah, he hadn't been here

in like 10 years anyway. So like, why would he- He was gonna play. Yeah, exactly. One of the exemptions. Yeah, I'll probably play. Yeah, just like, I'll play. Well, I'll probably play.

They came back to it. Someone asked again, well, Greg said he'd never would feel welcome in Augusta as that true. And really was like, are you asking me if Greg will ever feel welcome in Augusta? And they were like, yeah, basically, that's what we're asking. He's like, well, I'll never say never. You know, the arch of history is a long time, essentially. He's welcome to go win the Valero Texas opens. Like everybody else. When is great and going to say am status back? That'd be sick. Try to get in the mid end when the NCAA long, long, you know, long missing

exemption category. I think we've said on this podcast for a long time. NCAA champion, men's NCAA champion now getting into the Masters is announced by Ridley today, and the women's champ getting into the on was, well, which is awesome. I think that's another great change for Augusta. I was, I was workshopping a joke that I, that you can see why it didn't come to,

come to fruition of, I don't know why Ridley keeps getting pressers when he's coming off three miscuts at the Masters, but it is funny to go to his Wikipedia page and just see the three years that he played. He missed the cut all three times. You know who's going to be hot about that NCAA thing is Phil, because he was already riding for Charles Howell to get an special exemption for how well he's playing up with it. What had happened with that?

He's passed NCAA champion too. I really thought that might happen that Charles Howell playing really did golf on the tour that's suing a gust of national That he was gonna get a special exemption and that didn't end up coming to fruition or I kind of miss that one I don't think he's in the field no Okay, are you saying one of the many tracker accounts let you down in its journalist a credibility So it didn't turn out to be true the shit that gets thrown against the wall every week and then never followed up a bond And it does suck that we only hear from Phil basically and like replies on

Twitter to like like small like meme accounts these days. Yeah. A bit of a Bryson and anything you need it will be coming directly from me and my team. Otherwise, don't believe it. Who have we not talked about enough to this point in the week? I know we went like an hour before we mentioned Tiger. Wrong. I'll give you. Ram. All right. Yeah, well you got I mean, I maybe this is why you haven't talked about him very much But I think he's just playing a little bit of rope a dope probably right? I mean I someone I can't remember who it was Might be an Australian guy

Said he thought rom was gonna win the grand slam this year Someone I heard that somewhere. Is that is that what that person said? Do we need to check the tape on that? Are we going to go with that? Oh, he said, quote, is it crazy to think Rob could win the grand slave? That is accurate. I some, but some very

esteemed podcast host said that. I think he said the buoy actually. I think he says it's crazy to think a lot of people have said that. So I don't know. That could be the buoy. The buoy getting a shout out at the, at the on what, I think he said the buoy actually. I think he says it's crazy to think that a lot of people have said that though. So I don't know. That could be the buoy. The buoy getting a shout out at the at the on what I think. Did you see that? One of the one of the college coaches saying, you know, you know how no laying up calls John

Rob the buoy. That's like what roses do it. What are the best replies to that tree? It was like in fairness thousands of people were calling on that before. Before so I think he's played a little bit of of ropedo probably right like the WD from the players. I think he was very out of sight out of mind with Scotty coming back and it's it's you know to what what have you done for me lately business of course and it's very understandable but like very easy to forget how fucking historically good of golf he was playing you know two months ago

golf he was playing, you know, two months ago. And this is a place where he's already played awesome. He's like, awesome. Yeah. Good enough to win. Certainly. I'm not playing good enough to win. I don't know if I'm playing good enough to win here yet. That's what we're looking for. I brought. Rory hasn't played good enough to win here in 15 years as well. I think he I think he's unlocked all the achievements. I don't think he's like, there's no part of his game that's missing. I know part of his course, not like he has all he's unlocked all the achievements. I don't think he's like, there's no part of his game that's missing. He's no part of his course, not like. He has all, he's done all the required reading. I guess is what I'm saying. He's done the part we know, we know we won't go and we know we won't go and fight the patrons.

Like he was going to fight the patrons in Phoenix. And maybe that's why he hasn't won yet. That's a little bit of danger. But and that's where which patrons said that to me. I'm not saying I should too much. I'm over here I shit too much. I'm over here in the second cut and the patrons are talking shit. I guess it probably has a pre-approved butcher that they worked with for like 75 years, two for all the pulled pork sandwiches and stuff.

But maybe there's just not that much to say about Rob, but you know, really good at golf seems like this fits him really well and is in really good form and you know has been the number one player in the world for a long time until the last, you know, recent couple of weeks. So, I don't know, hot take. I just, I don't want to get on the record that I think Ram could play well. At Sully football, which is my Jags tracker account, he asked, did the video of Scotty putting make you nervous? There was a video circulating on Scotty yelling at his putting coach basically or getting animated with his putting coach. I should say doesn't make me nervous.

We can pull that up, can we? I know it'll take you a second, but it's it's really worth seeing if the people, the people have not seen it. I don't think we can live stream masters related stuff into our into our YouTube feed. That might get this person. I think we just get the person who tweeted it in trouble. But anyways, it was, it was, it was Scotty on the putting green with his putting coach hitting something

and coach clearly said something to him and he just was like visibly very, very frustrated. And I don't know. It's hard to read too, too, too, too much into that. So I'm gonna. They could have been arguing about like the Mavericks or something like that. Exactly.

So who knows? No, we're totally fine. We're not even concerned with the like the Vesti had on today, which was like matching his polo perfectly, which it made it look like a smock. I didn't. Yeah. I thought it was like a short sleeve zip up. I don't know. It's not good. And we don't know the only thing that can stop Scotty this week is the Vest situation, which I know he was battling last year. And that that does have me nervous. The Vest has been more nervous than the yelling on the which I know he was battling last year, and that does have me nervous. The vest has me more nervous than the yelling on the putting green. He was definitely a stroke's lost vest,

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shout out to the merch star. So store.nolangup.com. Thank you to all for the support. KVV, we got to visit your mailbag here. You've posted a couple mailbags on nolingup.com this week covering of various masters questions. I had to heat check you today because you had a question about Gary about a potential match with Gary player in that. And take me through your process of how you would have had he kept a match

with Gary player, 87 year old Gary player at Augusta National. All right, listen, I wrote that mailbag like two in the morning. There might have been some, the final version is the only they people have seen, right? So they would not have seen the original version. All I did was ask one question. And what was what was the answer?

All right, it's this is from a nest user, K Kanib KVV. If you play to match from the master's tease in your current state versus 87 year old Gary player from the members tease, uh, uh, yeah. Who do you think would win the match yards? Yeah. Yeah. So I said, uh, no, no.

Yeah. I, so I said that Gary player would, would, would me like, uh, listen, so what I said was, it would be humiliating, but I'm fairly certain he would whoop me like listen, so what I said was it would be humiliating, but I'm fairly certain he would clean my clock. It's important to remember that even though Gary player is 87 years old and his antics have become comedy fodder for people like me who are not around in his prime, he really is one of the greatest players ever. The fact that he's impossible to parody because some of his takes are so absurd shouldn't

diminish the fact that like me, a 10 handicap, he would nothing about that match would make him even a smidge nervous. Like this is a person who performed at the highest level against the best players, were like two and a half decades. I'm a dude who like is, uh, his pressure played pretty good today,

shot 82, felt pretty good about that. Like Gary would whoop my butt. And you basically asked me to add like one more line clarifying that. And I saw I said in summary he would destroy me okay he would even whip me if we flipped ease that's I mean like look I would just I think the part of it the problem is like Gary is like one of the great short game players of all time so he could probably get up and down and make bogies all the time whereas like I would be sculling it from end to end and making sevens or whatever. I just said basically that I would talk like massive amounts of shit. I would go down with a fight. I would try my best to represent

noling up my family, my name, uh, well, but Gary would would stomp all over me. I mean, let's, let's be honest. The balls of Gary's court now to make this happen. I think but he can't bring you out. He can't. True. We neither of us can make the time. So hopefully, hopefully, Roy will win the year and then Roy will bring us both out for a little match. You know, then that'll be great. Yeah, they're just not answering either of your phone calls right now, which is brutal. Yeah. I mean, look, another good question you got from T-Chap 80 was if you had to

par a single hole at Augusta National with your life riding on the line, which hole would you pick? You chose the second hole? DJ, do you have a choice of what you would take? I think too is the answer, for sure. There's no way I don't hit it in the water on 13 or 15 or 16 or 12 14 is like somewhat appealing if you had the funnel pin, but It's too long too much bad shit that could happen off the tee. I think two's got to be got to be the answer

Maybe three. I thought about three as well, right? I mean if you hit a bad drive on two if you hit one left on two, you're kind of toast. I guess would you, would you play it? Say it would you lay up, you know, lay up off the tee, lay up at the second shot and then just hit a full wedging and hope to, hope to do it. If that's the case, I'll, I'll take my chances on three, hit a drive down there, hit a 70 yard, 60 yard pitch, maybe onto the green somewhere and two put it. Um, it's, it's a, it's a close, it's a very, very good question. Because when you start thinking about like I have to make par,

holy shit, as a gust of start sounding really difficult. If I just went out and played around, I think I could do like, okay, I wouldn't shoot 90, but when you have, oh my God, I have to make par. It wouldn't be six. It wouldn't be seven. It might be eight. Definitely wouldn't be nine. Wouldn't be 10. Wouldn't be 11. Definitely not 12. Could be 13. I think it could be 13. I think 13 wouldn't be the hardest to't be 10, wouldn't be 11. Definitely not 12. Could be 13. I think it could be 13. I think 13 wouldn't be the hardest to burn.

Wouldn't be 15. I know that though. I don't know, man. You get that left, Misco, and I think you're toast at 13. I mean, you make it three-shot hole though. You can have a 70-yard pitch. I'm in off the tee. Okay.

Yeah, you can iron off of it if you really wanted to. That's true. I gotta tell you, I mean, you guys have been here so you know a little bit about this, but some of the uphill lies are so much more severe than you think. Before you came on, 17 is up a mountain. You don't even think about 17 being up there. It's crazy.

We were giving you shit before you came on about, we were kind of when you said it in the preview plot of like, well, people don't understand is how much the elevation change in person how different it is. You just TV doesn't capture it. Kind of waiting for like, yeah, if you don't understand is how much the elevation change in person, how different it is. You just TV doesn't capture it. Kind of waiting for like, yeah, we know that part, but. But.

I mean, the thing is, I'm not a gust, there's just not a blade of grass is on a plate. Have you heard how cheap the sandwiches are here? They keep the concession prices so low. It's really, it's in the part three is what a delight. Can I hit you guys with a couple odds and ends from I have checked in. Like I said, usually Masters week, I'm plugged into, you know, strap down like that guy from that movie seven, just just feeding myself with, uh, with just masters, content and tweets and videos and

press conferences, whatever. I've been, I've been diving in for some tactical strikes. Uh, so I'm sure there's a lot that I've missed, but some of my favorite things I've seen so far. One, I think favorite headline I saw, this was Bob Herrick at SI, this is quote, Fred Couples won't back down from calling Phil Mickels today quote, nut bag. Quote, nut bag. That's just, I thought that was really, really good stuff. I'm sure you guys have seen this in some of the live, pressers and stuff. I know not a lot of the live guys came in the media center, but if you did catch,

I just wanna give a special shout out to anybody who was out there asking for similarities and differences between Augusta and the crooked cat course at Orange County, Nashville. That was just absolutely tickling me. And the players who took it seriously, just like, yeah, you know what, the greens are pretty fast out there. And so that was that was good. It was gonna be out there. And I think Dustin Johnson was the only one who was kind of like

Yeah, they played golf there last week and I'm playing golf here this week. That's the only similarity Some of them at the kitty litter just real quick. They they're a kitty litter. I can report is out. They are already laying it down on the right of 10 Also, it's a good cut them. Yes, excuse me. And that's not it's like out of the good. They're using it it down on the right of 10. Also, it's got them. Yes, excuse me. And not it's like out of the good. They're using it this year. So it's out of the barn. I want to give a special shout out to Bryson's press conference. I don't know if you guys caught that. I think that was Monday or Tuesday. It kind of happens in my life. It's just crazy stuff, man. Kind of. I'm not being presumptuous. I'm not suggesting anything, but it kind of almost sounded like you smoked weed for the first time.

To clarify, it was not press conference, it was a scrum, right? It was a yes. But a lot of just like Zen Buddhist, the only consistent thing about life is inconsistency. What was that quote again? We just heard that quote the other day. Remember that? That was sick. And just like trying so hard to just be like,

oh, I'm super chill. I'm super chill, man, I'm super patient. Everything just kind of, it's kind of rolls off on that, man. It was great. It was just always fun to see Bryson, who I will say genuinely, don't know Bryson at all, but he does genuinely seem like he realizes like,

man, I think I've been an asshole for quite a while. And I'm going to try to not be as much of an asshole. Like he does seem like he's trying to turn things around and watching him try to do that in real time is kind of fascinating. And yet another reason I wish he was out of the PJ tour every week because he's just great to have involved. Any other Bryson thought? The logo.

I actually have the quote here, what he asked him if you regretted calling Augusta par 68. 67, excuse me. You know, I'll read you his quote. Do I regret? Everybody has a perspective on it. I don't think I regret anything. What do I understand that I have a lot of respect

for the course? Like people don't think that I ever, like because of that statement, they think I don't have a respect for the course. Are you kidding me? It's one of the greatest golf courses in the whole world. Anybody who doesn't think I think I don't have respect for the course, they better go check out what I actually said, because that's not accurate one bit. It's hypothetically, theoretically. Look, look, if you make 18 birdies, it's

going to be a 54, right? It's like a perfect score, right? On a table, 67, every day, unattainable. It can happen, but is that likely to happen? Probably not. With like distance, I'm hitting it, I'm hitting it. I thought there was a possibility. But that's the only with your A game. I should have rephrased that. If you have your A game, there's a good chance

of being able to do that. Long story short, I don't want anybody to take that out of context. I don't want to be known for the fact that I have great respect for the course. I clearly shot, I shot what he did. What did I shoot last year? Like what I missed a cut? A lot? I shot like 10 over, okay? Like what's year? Like, like, what I missed a cut? A lot?

I shot like 10 over, okay? Like, what's that? Five more shots, okay? Anything's like 10 more shots? Like, I shot 22 over a par. I can make a joke about it. Do I learn it? I regret it?

No, I don't regret for my mistakes. All of that was like very conscious. Very cool, man. You're cool, man. And that's, that was obviously very unhinged reading of the quotes. And I think when you read it, like when you actually see him just a little more,

trying to kind of mccon hay a little bit, just like, man, everything's just so cool. I'm so laid back. And those two things like fighting each other will never not be fast. Nobody has more respect for Bryson than me, D.C. All right, I've been on this block of like the next two guys that we folks, we love it.

We love it. Speaking of Bryson plays well. Again, I've said some million times, like dude, it's not fun at all if he's not even involved a little bit. Same with Keppka. There's a lot of like, a lot of Keppka chatter going around here about, you know, I don't hate it. I don't either. He bet.

I don't hate it. I think he's going to play well. Can I have a he he and Rory played a practice round together. It was kind of an interesting energy. It was walking a little bit watching them. They were, you know, chatting it up a lot. I got imagined the Netflix cameras were following. It was sort of Rory made a very specific point in his presser about like some of the guys I'm cool with. Yep. Like I see Brooks, but like DJ.

And then he kind of just left it that I think, you know, it was interesting. I don't think what the thing about those two is is like they're pretty thoughtful, Bryson comes across, or excuse me, Brooks comes across last thoughtful, but I think he is sort of thoughtful. And I don't know where they trying to send any kind of message to anybody or they just hanging out, just playing golf.

I don't know. I think both can benefit from this in terms of like with the live guys slash Brooks winning a little bit of like, yeah, look, we're fine. Like we can all get along, right? And at the same time, Rory and the PGA tour guys can benefit a little bit of like, Brooks has been asking, right? We know that.

Like that's documented. That actually happened. Like we're still close here. Like there's something going on with that. So Brooks has still tried to downplay publicly that, you know, I'm happy with where I'm at. Bumble, blah, blah, blah, but it's not accurate. Maybe things have changed in the last month or two,

but as we've known for a couple of months now that he's inquired. He's interested. So anyways. I think only the other big thing I had was did you guys listen to speech press conference at all? It's good to say the shockingly somebody we haven't talked about enough is speak.

The his last answer of his of his presser on whatever that was Monday or Tuesday. Truly one of the best answers I've heard in a press conference before Kevin. I don't know if you heard it if you know what I'm talking about, but what he was getting into kind of like, Hey, I think it was Jimmy Roberts that asked me the question. And it was basically like, Hey, you've had so much success. Then you went through all these struggles, kind of like what, you know, basically like take me through that and what, what has that been like? And it was a very broad question. But he basically explained that like, man,

like I think the natural inclination when you start to struggle is like, I just got to work harder. I just got to work harder. I just got to work harder. And the problem is, if you don't know what to work on, you're just going to like make yourself worse. And you're just basically like running into a brick wall every day and thinking that you're going to break through and in real, you know, reality, you're just going to give yourself a cushion. And he talks so much and so eloquently about like breaking that process down into like, what exactly do I need to break down? What needs to get better? What do I have to understand about my golf swing in order to break it down and rebuild it? And it was just, it was just a

really, really cool answer as far as like him going to the golf course and not understanding like if he was going to come back in the evening, a better player or worse player. And it was like, man, that, that sums it all up. That's what I have. I have a quote in front of me. I could just talk generally about it, or I could literally read it.

But it's like, it's so everything we love about speed, like just open a vein and give us everything and say the kind of things that you wish you could get from Scotty, but he's never going to sort of, even if he feels those things, he's never going to do that. It's fascinating. It's just, it's pure uncut Jordan from a press. Yeah.

So what else have you gotten to do on site here, KVV? Well, I wrote a little thing about going and standing in the spot where Tiger hit his chip in 2005, which I thought was just a kind of a cool thing to sort of. There's so many places on site where you can't actually like recreate history by like feeling like you were there. Like you could Bubba's hook around the corner with the wedge in 10 is probably one of them, but you know the other one is Tiger's chip. So I thought that was just a kind of a cool thing to sort of sit there and see that.

But one other thing that like I got invited to do was basically go see like all the technology ops like behind the scenes that they use to put together the master's app. And dude, I got to say like my mind was a little bit blown. I mean like there. Oh yeah. Like the amount of people that they have working on the stuff to make the master's app hum and is incredible. I mean, it's it's over a hundred first of all. So like it's they used to like cut all this stuff by hand. It's all like computers are doing it now. This year, you know, you've watched in the past where they had, you know, that you could watch like the my group stuff or you could put together essentially the players you wanted and every shot would sort of show that you know that didn't have any commentary on it right so it's kind of weird because it was like just the birds chirping and like the silence whatever this year they're going to have like AI commentary. They've fed you know like billions of things

into their version of GTP whatever and so it's going to be able to say like Brody McElroy hits a shot to 14 feet you know on the on the 13th hole, whatever. And they've played some of it for us. And it's like, oh, this is pretty like spooky. But what's, I think, is like, truly, if you're a gambler, listen to the things that I say in the next, like, 20 seconds here. They have a predictive scoring model that's going to go, you know, be a part of it this year. That is like, every hole they're going to be able to sort of feed all this data into their model and predict what the person is going to score on the next hole based on the weather based on the firmness of the greens based on the wind based on where the pins are based on how the hole has been playing that day based on how the person is playing

on previous holes based on how the rest of the field has played those holes. So they told us like seven is almost certainly going to be the hardest hole this year. Like there's no like doubt on their mind about that. So if you like, if there's some sort of gambling thing that you can bet on the over on seven, fucking hammer the over. If if you are going to like, they showed us like their predictive model of who they think the first round leader is going to be based on how they've been playing in tournaments, you know, coming into this, you know, how they've played in the Masters in the past. There are like millions of data points that they are plugging in at warp speed to be able to essentially like, you know, take the Masters in and leave all other golf tournaments behind in terms of the way that you view them.

And I think like, look, I'm not a gambling person. That does not really my sort of thing. There's a lot of people obviously who love it. And so I would encourage you to, like by, they say the model's gonna get better as the week goes on. So like they're predictive stuff on Friday is gonna be better than it is on Thursday and even better on Saturday than it was on Friday.

So like if you're looking at Saturday stuff and you're like wanting to bet, you know, and you trust that kind of data stuff, Chris Alman, you should go hard into the master's app and check that stuff out. It is, and they also showed us like, they, one of the things I was like blown away, Cody, you're going to love this. They expect probably over the course of the week 160 million data attacks on their app. They're constantly getting barraged by, yes, by bad actors trying to get into the system and tear apart everything, whatever.

They showed us the model. There's already been 45 million attempted data breaches and we'll expect it will get more and more intense by Thursday and Friday and Saturday and like over the course of the week It'll probably be like close to 160 170 million like serious threats of Various people try and he was like, yeah, we got a pitch a perfect game because you know if you don't like it's a disaster So like but he was like where we feel really good about our mod I was like Porter and I were in there together

And I was like holy moly like this is there together, and I was like, holy moly. Like, this is not my grandfather's master's anymore, where this is just the stuff that the master's does. I mean, I was kind of joking with them. I was like, would you mind talking to like the PGA of America and the USGA and the R&A because we could really use some of this kind of stuff with those apps or whatever.

I mean, you're like using electricity and they're like banging rocks together in a cave. When it comes to like where you guys are and they're kind of all laughed and they're like, oh, well, we love things like that, but we won't comment on that. Remember when we had those two guys in like Uzbekistan that kept ordering birch and just just put the illiterate to it. I told it was dizzy for a while. It was fraud every time.

Imagine if there's 160 million of those guys. Hey Cody, I don't know if you haven't pulled up but you're talking about the predictive scoring Kevin. We gotta talk about what they did to our guys stalling. Oh, all these data points have him predicted for, I think it was 84 or something like that. It's just so. Just look at that, like, you know, Thursday, Thursday,

morning, Wednesday night of just, ah, fuck, man, you got how many million data points? You guys think I'm gonna go out to 2.84? Like, ah, that sucks. Wow. You can get really, you can get motivated by the chat GPT. Like, you're gonna go out and like stick it to them, all right? So that's so brutal. Just, uh, Scott, unfortunately, I, we've looked at the numbers and we predicted you are get a triple number six. The best was the guy somebody replied said I wonder if they plugged in the wrong Scott stallings the guy that got the the masters in the Yeah, we got to get a close the loop on that story. He's out there this week, right? Good question from from Regan close the loop of that story. He's out there this week, right?

Good question from Regan came here. Is it will it be able to predict how many high-noons Sally is gonna drink this week? No, it will not. All I gotta say is there's a palette of stuff that TC dropped off on my doorstep recently this week that is gonna get devoured this week. So, hell yeah.

Anything else before we wrap here? I know we're kinda trying to keep this a little tighter because we got a lot of golf to talk of the next four days. We might have some rain delay shows. We might have some Some weird timing of some live shows if weather bucks like it's gonna buck I Think just some odds and ends tiger stuff that that probably wouldn't have been covered in the in the You know preview but Consistently, you know riding for pro rollback, you know, I think he kind of reiterated, hey, I've been on this block for a long time. Nothing has changed. A lot of the same talking points, people probably heard on this show for a long time.

Very, very interesting. He was riding for L.A. His L.A. event to have a cut. I thought that was a very back to the situation. distancing with Tiger though, he he summarized it more concisely than than was proposed from the USGA and RNA and that it's not only competitions, it's a professional events. If you're playing for money, you are going to play this golf ball, right, which I don't I don't. I don't. Hard to do the USGA. Yeah, and I don't really agree with that. I think he is a lot of people don't fully understand how far the distance problem has seeped down and for basically all any any event where you got to sign a scorecard of any kind any competitive golf distance is an issue and he's saying you know if you're playing in amateur golf events and NCAA events and and all of that like you should be you know you can be playing the ball that goes

forever I don't know if that's a full you know I, I don't wanna say he doesn't fully understand that. I just think his perspective is a little more simplified than the problem that permeates. But continue, sorry, you're saying, riding for cuts at Genesis. Yeah, just very interested to, you know, he was asked about, you know, you haven't really spoken since a lot of these changes

to the PJ tour and he was riding for, hey, I'm still pushing for my event in LA to have a cut, which I think, again, probably gonna get a lot of cheers and applause from this corner of the internet over here. And then I think the only couple of other things, you know, a reiterated KVV that he doesn't sleep well. I know that had to make Lucas Madsen very excited from succession. And then he, the fact that he's playing a practice round with Rory and brought out a bunch of ballad balls for them to hit around Augusta National is kind of like ultimate golf nerd stuff.

Only to put with. I was like, go hit him on the golf course. I want to say that's what we want to hear about. But he did hear him talk about how he's at home hitting his persimmon driver. Like I wish we could have gotten a little follow up on that. The part of that problem is it's just hard to get like follow ups with in the these pressers, you know, it's not like where you just asking questions with him 10 feet away from you or whatever. You get one shot.

You have to get called on. You basically get stared daggers at if you try to kind of stall a little bit and continue. So I was like, why are, why in the world are you playing with persimmon? That's awesome. Oh, guys, I'm excited. You did have a question you wanted to ask us. Do you want to ask it now, KVV? Another question you ask in your mail bag, where we can save it for live shows this week?

I think we'll save for live shows, but we'll, I'm going to throw the question out. I'm going to give you guys a chance to think about it. Let the readers think about it is what's your favorite master shot of all time? I wrote about mine this year with Tigers chip in 2005. And I think I want you to think hard on that because I think it's maybe says it's a little bit about what things about golf you like. So we're going favorite not not best not most memorable just favorite could be favorite Jack Johnson hitting it off the T markers could be Phil threatened the trees could be Greg Norman, you know

Hitting it into nine and letting it roll all the way back to his feet like anything is possible Mine would definitely be the elevation change. You just can't capture that you know on camera the cameras really Yeah, it's more of a camera shot for me. If there's a low camera shot, that would be my favorite. The best shot is the camera shot that doesn't pull the capture to the elevation. I'm going to tell you a secret. They're going to have drones out this year that fly six inches from the ground, essentially, to try to better capture what it looks like out there.

There's a lot of new... I mean, Nica's always surprises with New stuff every year and that's gonna be one of the cool cool things I think oh, you know what this is a random. I don't know why we're giving all these you know free Augusta plugs But the the watch party thing I think is actually really cool. Did you see that Kevin? I did not it's basically like across the street Maybe or something. No, it's like a like a digital watch Part of their app, I think you go to the watch live thing. Digital hangout, man. Yeah, it's basically like, it would be just like this, except for you're just like playing the master's life.

And you're just like watching it with your friends and joking about like, oh my God, I can't believe Tony Fina just missed that part on 17. He's usually such a closer stuff like that. Damn it. Cody, what are we missing? What else do you want to talk about? Well, we talked about front runners. We talked about dark horses.

I want to know who's the low am going to be for you boys. Hmm. Sergeant, I think. Yeah, I was debating whether to scream sergeant or to let you guys have it first. I think it's it's a far some of some of the reports of good and we're starting to be blowing it past JT and Max and and those guys was was a provocative. Yeah I'm going to go strictly off the hype from so far from this week. Gordon Sargent. I don't I don't get into the low

am as much. I don't I don't I don't follow as much as I should probably should. I know it's such a steep history with this tournament, the amateur nature of it. Is anybody I haven't heard any crow's nest report. So does anybody actually stay in up there doing that anymore or even do that? No, they do do it. And they were I think they again, I'm with Sally. The M stuff doesn't excite me as much as some and so I didn't sit in on those pressers, but I think they were did ask them and they get the one of the kids who say,, oh yeah, you were staying there. So they usually stay for a night, I think.

Yeah. First question later. I have to stay the whole time. Come on. There's a lot of ways I could go with that favorite shot, but I don't know how liberal you'll let me go, but the pretty liberal dudes have been around the entire time.

It's not really a golf shot as much as a prediction from the Pebble Beach Pro Am when Jim Nance thought that Bryson could win the tournament as an amateur. I thought because of how much he respected the history of the game. I thought that was a pretty sick take. First round later. You know what? Sun J.M. Oh, that's a good one. Thank you. Cameron, you're...

Uh, do you think he, I mean, I guess, is he putt well enough? Is this kind of the whole, like, bad putters win at Augusta thing? Everybody putts bad at Augusta. It's more of the take, I think. But still happy everybody's on the Cammy on train.

It's a good spot. We're just feeling ourselves now. Somebody has been huge. Somebody alerted me to this. I totally forgot. I said this last year. June 2nd, 2022, I tweeted. All I'm saying is you can get Cameron Young

at 81 for Augusta next year. He's trending towards a pretty elite status and those prices aren't gonna be available when the time comes. And he's now a 28 to one. So all I'm saying is if you if you lived in a state where you could place a bet on June 2nd, 2022, that would have been a good time to do that. Unfortunately, I do not. But I'm going to say first round leader, Sky Shepler.

Bold. You must play boldly to win. Do you agree with Tron's take that it'll be the worst thing possible to get up in the golf's humanity, I think. To me, yeah. I don't. I don't. I thought he was maybe, I think maybe Tron would want that one back because he was kind of a we helped him out. We let him get away with that.

He was talking about like how many majors Scotty would have to win in order to be interesting. It's like, well, yeah, maybe you should start with two. Like it seems like we got it. You can't just get five at once. Like you got to you got to chip away. It's I've had to answer for a lot of Tronunks takes here this week. I don't know if I mean I'm living the life that you guys have lived for many years where like you know when you show up to events people are like I got to talk to you about trunks stuff. I'm like man like let's go. Here's his Twitter head. I'll hit D.I.

I'll pass it along. You know I I infraid it to share it with you So I was just say it's been super fun to walk around the course and have a bunch of people like say, hey, aren't you, what's the name? You know, the new guy, knowing up, they get a lot of, a lot of very cool, like people just being sort of very kind and cool. So I'm so thankful for that, I'm thankful for people who've been listening and watching and, you know, it's interesting to just be like at a company that people are like

legitimately super excited, way more excited than like legacy media to hear what we have to say or read or whatever and that's just awesome feeling. Did JT give you one of those? Yes. Hey, aren't you that guy from the PGA? Hey. Didn't that dunkle you already? Solid your neck. It's easy. Something to win this shit. JT did tell me that it wasn't exactly wrong about that column later. Hey, didn't that dunk on you already? Solid your neck.

Something to win this shit. Jay did did tell me there wasn't exactly wrong about that column later. We will be hung out. So I feel like you were definitely right. He did blow an opportunity that again. Keeping this one in relative terms. It was one of the worst major wins ever statistically. Like that round would that performance over four rounds would only win like one,

two percent of the time or something crazy like that. So I'll back you up on that one, Kevin. Okay. Cody, who's your pick to win? Cam Young. Wow. Dark Horse. Keith Mitchell.

Who? Who's he babysit? He's babysit in someone in the first round, is he? He's got a Sergio. One of those guys. He's babysit in someone in the first round, is he? He's got a Sergio One of those guys Sergio was maybe Bryson or something. I thought he had a More provocative one than that We really talk many pairings any any pairings that really fire you guys up or you get on that

Speak out in the last pairing of the day Cutter whatever is our's going to be fun. Inverter. One hundred players. I really, I think the good draw for Max, I think, playing with Scotty, playing with the, with the Amateur, staying Bennett, I think that's going to be fun. Cat got the early late. It's a good full recovery time. So that was nice. Which is the listener's key. Mitchell has P. Oh, that's right.

Racing a JT. proud UGA guys. JT posted in Francesco Molina. All right. L. A. Masters does almost seemingly intentionally just dissipate drama when it comes to pairings. Like they don't, they don't steer into like USGA does. It's probably for the best.

I kind of like the era when we didn't necessarily do super pairings. Like it was just sort of you got what you got. I know that there are a lot of reasons to do the super pairings. You want people to be able to get to watch the guys in the future groups. So whatever, I just kind of like it when you get to, you know, all right, Roy's over in this pairing. I don't have to like follow him and John Romance, got a shopper like, no, man, I don't have separated. I want my guy it like be able to breathe

and just not have the elevated moment. Kev, who do you like in the Cam Champ Jose Maria group? To ball. Oh gosh. I got to go. Yeah. Yeah. I got to go Jose there.

Can I just say Cam Champ? I know not playing great golf. Pretty incredible course history at Augusta National. And if it's a bomb fest, if it's soppy and if it's wet, that guy carries it along, long distance. And just noting that one, if you need a little play in one of your lineups or something like that, I'm necessarily know how it's going to go for him. But just a little note that he's got a great

course history here. Someone told me years ago that Cam Champ like drove to the front of the first green on one. Jeff O. O. V. In an interview in 2017 said Cameron, it was actually a really good interview answer about distance. And he was like, Cam Champ can show up and then people didn't know about him yet.

He can show up and he can drive it on the first screen at Augusta National. And that was like, I don't know. That's quite weird. So that's a great example of how like terrible takes get laundered into like fake news. It's because like someone heard that, assumed it was true, sent me a DM like claiming

that it was true. Like Cam Champ legitimately did drive the first screen and I'm like, oh, okay, well, I'll just go ahead and repeat that on the podcast. Yeah. About track checking it. I literally just went back and watched that. That's why I was fresh on my mind.

Cam Champ T10 T20 16 19 here in his three appearances and that is almost a stroke and a half above expectation per round. So that's six shots above expectation for normal golf course. Also guys, we get to hear from Jack and Gary tomorrow. They get to have their presser where they just fire off takes. I forget who was saying this and I know, you know, I'm a complete homer here, of course. They should have, they should have Rose hit one of the opening t-shots.

Yeah, I love that. That would be fucking awesome. I love that. And that was another thing. Just seeing Rose and Rachel out there just thriving on the rope line and all the players coming up to them to say, huh, it just looked like truly like the most fun I've ever seen two people have. So I was very, very happy for them over the last couple days. All right, guys, I think not just Rose for anybody who's could use. Sorry, Rose. Thank you. Thank you. It's probably going to be like just to make anybody who's could use. Sorry. Rose. Thank you. Thank you. I was probably going to be like, just to make sure that's very clear to

everybody. You know, you're a big big team. I think I know. Yeah, people would fake that mistake. I want to wrap this because the sooner we wrap it, the sooner the 2023 master starts, and I think it's time. I think we've done our, we've done our weight. Kevin, I'm very jealous.

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