No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 667: Saturday Masters Recap

Episode Date: April 9, 2023

We are joined by Scott Van Pelt, Wright Thompson, and Iona Stephen as we recap a rainy Saturday at Augusta National. We preview the final Rahm/Koepka showdown, discuss Phil's resurgence, Tiger, and everything else from the day that was.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most. Hello, Greg, glad to be with you. Glorious, wonderful, amazing Saturday of Masters play, Neil Schuster's here to help us recap. Hellenial.

Good to see you. That's all he's got. We got some guest. Still timely. It still works. We're going to talk with KVV here shortly, who is of course on the grounds. I'm sure saw a bunch of wonderful stuff today

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Oh, guys, what a bummer. What a bummer. It is a bummer. It's two days in a row. I was lamenting to you guys that you know masters weekend You you almost you get your chores done Went for a run was on the couch a little too much yesterday You go you go get some supplies ready to hunker down hit the couch 17 minutes in and you just you hear the air horn. It's tough It and I think I'm hoping that makes tomorrow just an epic memorable day of golf, but I worry about not being able to pace myself because

that's a personal like I lack self control. I'm going to have to be streams going, you know, what it's just going to be a lot tomorrow. So our pacing's a little off right now. The weather is a bummer. Yeah, I feel like I'm adopting a tour players mindset this week. You know, they can't do anything about the weather. You know, we're just, uh, we're going to be ready to go when the time is right. Uh, time hasn't been right so far. So, you know, we're just going to nail we're going to get something to eat. You know, uh, stay loose. Maybe stretch. See what the team's got going on. Maybe do a crossword puzzle. Uh, you know, things like that. Just, just, uh, keep the brain occupied. And I think when it's time to go, we'll be ready. I think tomorrow's going to be a hell of a day.

So as we're sitting here, the leaders are on the seventh green. Is it two man race? Let's just start with that. Is it is Brooks, Capca or John Rom going to win the Masters? Um, I would say yes. And I think it is specifically because they, they have, they've almost been crowned by not having to play as much in this weather. Yeah, I think when the whole look is not that to play much in this weather. Well, yeah, but both, I mean, just for both of them, they just have so much more room to run if they come out tomorrow and the course is a little bit, you know, friendly. Or I don't know what, what to call it, but a lot of the guys on the course right now are, are absolutely battling. And it's not going,

not going real well. Yeah, I think as soon as the horn blew, it became a two man race. I think if they would have stayed out there this afternoon for another six, seven holes, obviously they couldn't do that with the way the greens were pooling up and all of that. But if they would have stayed out there, I think, you know, there's the, the potential for disaster. Maybe you catch one of those slippery drivers and you hit it in a bad spot and you wedge out poorly and you make a triple somewhere, but really good weather tomorrow.

I mean, I don't see either of those guys going out and shoot 78, you know. Yeah, there's one professional golfer within eight shots of Brooks Keppka right now. And that he's, he's got a somewhat lengthy par plot on seven when they come back and Ram's got a good look at birdie. So we could be looking at a two shot swing Let's call it a three shot lead now as of right now just just just based on where they're putting from Um, and it's again, I feel like I've clarified this eight times like I don't feel like I'm rooting against Brooks But I am rooting for like a great showdown and as somebody like kind of rooting for Brooks to come a little bit backward

So we get this duel and we don't get a run away. I mean, just none of that's happening. Like it's not happening at all when you watch and play golf. Like he drives one way right on five. It's the perfect sensible shot to the front of the green. Clean's up an easy two-putt par. It's just all easy two-putt par. Birdies the second hole. I've said this like on every night this week of like, dude,

it's going to be two different tournaments. It's going to be the nice sunny tournament. And then it's going to be the shit show. And who knows how well he's going to handle it, not saying he couldn't handle it, but it's just going to be a totally different variable. And he came out and looked the exact same he has looked through two days. And it's still pretty scary. He looked phenomenal today. And I'm with you. I think we can talk a lot more Brooks kind of as the show goes on here. But I'm a solid. There's got to be party that's rooting for a six shot lead, right? I mean, I know there's going to be, I know there's going to be a lot of 54 whole jokes.

I'm going to be Andre the giant. Please, no, no, no more 54 whole jokes. I can't do it. But the one live thing I am, I am kind of here for it is the stick shot lead, 54 whole lead at the masters and, you know, come come up maybe because that is extremely poetic. It was more the same from what Harry Higgs was talking about last night, very patient golf from Brooks through six and a half, almost seven holes. It looks really, really patient. Ram just, you know, I don't know what to take away from this other than that was some really, really shitty weather and some very difficult conditions to play golf in

Again, something we talked about going all the way back to the previous show no flexibility in the T-boxes made a lot of these holes Play really really freaking long today in the morning round finishing up of round two We saw tons of dudes hitting lumber up into the 18th green guys hitting drivers 237 yards up into the wind uphill and in the full shit of the rain storm on 18. We saw more a cow a hit. I don't know what the wood he's hitting into into the par three fourth. He had wooded into the fifth green today as well, just completely flipped golf course.

And as someone who struggles and is not a mutter in struggles and rainy conditions, I cannot imagine playing that golf course at 7500 yards in those conditions. Can I ask you guys a question? We, you know, lamented the weather earlier for me for the delay. What was the biggest bummer was I was pretty fascinated by the actual golf, though. Like if it had just rained a little bit less, but it had rained all day, I am locked in on this tournament. Do you guys feel the same way or is the rain

no fun to watch for you? I thought it was great. I've watching that last group when we could watch them. And part of the disaster of today was not being able to watch them outside of, you know, sitting on your laptop or on your TV, you know, smart TV app or whatever for those first six holes was like, you know, it was fantastic. Especially once Brooks started getting the like the slippery club face and he blew that one way right on five and I mean, there's just so many more variables, but he just, like you said, nearly just stayed locked in and was like looked methodical and looked patient and still did that all that same stuff.

I would have loved to see how long that was going to last because I have a feeling of probably what it lasted all day. I mean, he's, he's looks awesome. Well, it was wild watching. I don't know if you guys saw Cameron Young 7th hole and some of the other shots that were happening. Cameron don't hit like a 160 yard drive off seven. Absolute duck hook into the trees and like some stuff was starting to happen out there. Dustin Johnson made a triple. Speed made a million on five after driving it over into the trees. Like, there was some weird shit happening to a lot of groups except for that final group and that final,

those two guys at the top. God, can I? And I know you guys are big on apologies. I'd like to apologize for some of my more cow it takes earlier in the week. He looked awesome today. He was hitting laser beams with that five wood, seven wood, whatever that thing was.

And it was much better than I thought it was gonna be. So I don't know how long it would last it, but gotta call that one out. So is he no longer the dome golfer? Or is it really just that? I didn't say that. We call him like we see him today and we'll look at the body of evidence when we get back to HQ.

I don't wanna, oh, can you speak of the door and go out to the door? I don't know. Hello Kevin. He's muted. Don't tell him. I'll tell him. Hello Lads. Yeah, it was a newbie

to the deep in the dome. Thank you for bringing me on. Yeah, it was tough out there. Really, really tough, really tough. I will say more cow. It did bogey last two holes he played. I mean, he was looking like, all right, there's going to be a

serious threat coming in here, but he did make unfortunately couldn't get in before the weather hit. He bogeyed the sixth hole and also bogeyed the seventh hole. So he is sitting at 500 par. Guys, I did not have Patrick Cantley, the tool man being a total mutter and rising up the leaderboard. He birdie the second hole, birdie the third hole, birdie the fourth hole, and he is sitting at 500 par. He is through 13 holes. He was in the thick

of it for the most of the, for almost the entire day. And he is the dude sitting in a tie for fourth right now. Did not have that in my in my cards. I mean, he's projects and a vibe of calmness, right? With maybe not in some of the stuff he says, but the way his demeanor on the course. So when say it's surprising me a ton, but he seems to, I guess the surprising thing is we've said this in the past, he does really well in birdie fest events. When it's like, go out and get it,

go make a million birdies, and that is not what we were seeing today. So I've impressed with his play for sure. So we have some breaking news coming in that the, from the masters there updating the third round will resume Sunday at 8.30m. CBS will air live coverage beginning at eight thirty a.m. through the conclusion of the third round. The final round is expected to begin at twelve thirty p.m. off numbers one in ten in pairings. Come back on at

five p.m. the live broadcast will remain two to seven p.m. on CBS as originally scheduled. So if I'm reading that right, we have an hour and a half of coverage of the final round that will not be live on television, but I'm guessing the final pairings probably going off number one, sometime around 2 p.m. when coverage comes on tomorrow.

So. OK. And it's going to be three sums to finish around, obviously, and then two sums after that. No, I think it's three all the way. It's going to be three sums to finish around obviously and then two sums after that. No, I think it's three all the way. It's going to be three. If you're going to final round as well. If you're going off two T's, you're playing three sums.

Okay. That's a general rule I would say. But tough scene today with coverage. You got to say it's it has been a week of just overloading like the sensory well sensory blitzkrieg as Brain Olshambler has said, said multiple times on TV of trying to like watch golf on masters.com. Like it's an insane offering what they're able to bring you.

And it really does seem like a flip that I can't really understand or explain as to why on Saturday they decided like, hey, feature groups, like we're going to put tigers in the last group off 10 T, we're going to put him in feature groups, but we're not going to put Keppka and Ron, the two leaders in the tournament on feature groups. And there was nowhere to watch them play golf the first three holes until they got to the holes forced through six feet. It turns out CBS was taping and commenting live as this play was going on and planning to play this

during the broadcast window when the rain delay hit, I guess, which is just another tough scene. It's just all these incredible steps forward that Augusta has taken with the masters in terms of coverage and just seems like one really random middle finger that I don't understand the purpose of this. Can somebody else help me understand

us or explain to the audience? Just felt like a really bad throwback to the mid-90s where none of us knew what the front nine looked like and there was no real good explanation for it and it was just a mystery. I can't really tell you. I had people in my mentions demanding that I go knock on Ridley's door. I demand answers. I probably won't do that. That's, you know, thanks for the, the, the prompt. I will say not to be, you know, just an unniilist about all this stuff, but they do this like every time. I mean, they do this every year. Like that, this was actually like a pretty big step forward in the featured groups. I think Tiger last year was kind of the first time where it was just like,

okay, the featured group everybody wants to watch, we're actually gonna put that one on. Otherwise, it is just like so overly clever. And so just like, we're actually gonna, we're just gonna be a little more reserved in our featured groups. Like they do this stupid withholding stuff all the time. And so I don't know,

maybe I was just a little more prepared for it this year. I guess I just still don't understand why though. Like that's the problem. Almost everything I can explain. I'm guessing there's this year. I guess I just still don't understand why though. Like that's the problem. Like almost everything I can explain. I'm guessing there's something to do with, you know, they knew there was gonna be a delay and I'm sure that these commercial slots for this, what's airing right now is we're talking,

we're sold for a good $1,000,000 a long time ago and you know, they needed a canned footage to be able to run the commercial. I'm sure it has something to do with contracts. Like I can always does, but man, I was pretty frustrating today. And of course, 15 minutes into the live telecasts coming on the air, the horn blows,

and we're done for the day. And it's just, it's tough. It's really, really tough. I also, to that point, I would love it if they could expand the four, five, and six feet. It's four, five, and six. Or is it three, four, and five? It's four, five, and six. Four's four five and six. Or is it three, four and five? It's four, five, six.

Four, five and six, thank you. Show me three, for sure. Like what are we doing? Like I think it's three, four and five would be the holes to show. Six is, you know, those two, part three is that, I think four is more interesting than six personally, but I would love to see every shot hit on number three.

That would be totally fine with me and maybe help in this situation of Obviously, I want to see the leaders from the start, but like given to me a little earlier in the round Two is like one of the best holes in the golf course, too I think I love watching dudes hit pretty much every shot on the second hole I love all the different pins on that hole and it's You know, obviously they're heavily featured in the feature group coverage, but it's Yeah, maybe just think thinking about one more channel.

I had one for one, two, and three. I think people would watch the shit out of that as well, but I don't know. Again, I'm like, they give us the best offering of coverage that any tournament gives us, so I don't enjoy the part where we have to critique it, but like, some of the most obvious stuff they miss is what makes it so incredibly frustrating.

That's really good. Well, they kind of dig their own grave a little bit, because you know, they got every shot 30 seconds later. So, you know, we know it's behind the curtain somewhere which is it is a little baffling. It's really funny to go back and read newspaper articles of like the mid 90s to talk about why don't they show the front nine

and it's like the tournament chairman is like, well, we worry it will affect the crowds. You know, that the crowd, the people won't come in the first round. And you know, when you, if they are able to see the front nine, we'd like to have the full field filled out with the, the patrons. That's big MLB blackout energy. We got a high power TV executive area. Come on and talk about this if we want to bring them on.

Yeah, let's do that. He may be able to answer some of these questions. Our man, he's got, he's shaking his head already behind the scenes he has got the people angle going already mr. Scott van Pelt from ESPN what is up SVP how are you man I don't want to hear about the people I angle I got this thing set I saw a table I've said it's static I'm not holding it in my hand this is as good as it's gonna get so you either it's either good enough or it's not looks great what is in Butler cabin it is not okay okay god Looks great. What is in Butler cabin?

It is not. Okay. God, I would have said live from Butler cabin would have been a nice entry for us. That might have got us in trouble. Are you allowed to go live from Butler cabin? What are your restrictions for the week? I don't know.

I've never thought about that. I mean, we go live at three o'clock on ESPN, at eight o'clock this morning on ESPN, but I don't know. I wanted to, I wanted to, to, I was going to tweet out the, the, that's what's going on at Augusta from the Butler cabin, but I was afraid the universe would implode if I did that. So I, I just don't, I don't want to mess with the man. I don't want to mess with it. Ask for forgiveness, not permission, Scott. What, I really subtle sign off to an interview with that

would be really nice. I don't know. That's what's going on. That's what's going on with the guy. I figure those didn't know, no. Can we ask, you interviewed Brooks Capca after the round yesterday. You asked him what he hit into 15.

Was that an intentional little question mark there at the end of that? Everybody loved that. And I asked him, what hit into 15. Was that an intentional little question mark there at the end of that? Everybody loved that. And I asked him, what'd you hit on eight? I don't want to know the club. And I asked, what'd you hit on 15? And everyone's like, you know, golf Twitter's the best. Is it?

It's very petty. Everything's an inside joke. I just asked the club. And then as soon as I said it, I'm like, oh, shit. And buddy answered. So what did you make of that situation? Not to I hate to bring this up for third night in a rubber. What did you make of that whole situation? Nothing. I it's the it's the angle of the camera. Okay, well, first of all, let me back up. Everybody does it all all year long,

right? Not necessarily verbally, but Well, there's a lot of that going on looking in bags We've got we've talked a lot about that last couple of weeks and there's spotters out there and You if the spotter wants to know and you're giving the information so that whoever could have been with the group It's like is it a fight like I I look and I know that they're purists out there that they just are lit They get mad but they get mad about everything I just and I know what like're purest out there that they just are lit. They get mad, but they get mad about everything. I just, and I know what, like, what is a buddy of mine? I'm like, I said, Hey, would you guys stop freaking cheating?

And he's like, if you want to tell me it was a five, I had a six, and I'd have been in the water. I truly think it was innocuous. If people want to make something of it, which they will, because that's what they do, I don't, I don't. That's me. Move on, guys. Stop bringing this up. Okay. I mean, you hear it right here, all right? Stop asking people about this. I'm just telling people what happened as I understand it.

It had whiffs for me of, of where did it cross Twitter, which I'm always going to subscribe from, from the where did it cross conversation. I just take that away. Let's just keep going with the golf tournament. What do you, we talk about tree Twitter? I know a lot of thoughts about tree Twitter. I'm not talking about Twitter at all. What do you do in a rain delay like this? And you got to have some experience with this at Augusta. I mean, this day is a kind of a one-off. I mean, just in terms of we start the day in the Butler cabin on a Saturday, which is an extra day for us,

because we're first-second round, but that was second round was continuing. And then, I mean, it's 40 something degrees, and it's pouring. I can't remember a day that felt like this. Like, I've been here where it's raining, I've been here where it's cold. I don't remember a day, it was this combination of it,

and it's just puking rain for hours. But I mean, like,, I'm sort of, I'm left with not a great deal to do, which is fine. So we're gonna find the seamy handle belly of a gust and just get really weird. Why not? Our benefit here, everyone's benefit here that you don't have much to do.

But if you're, I don't know if you got, you caught the clip of Tiger limping in 17 fairway before the horn blew. If you're Tiger Woods right now, what are you doing? Is he gonna come back tomorrow and why? I've thought about this a bunch since I saw it. It's just how odd is it that he keeps grinding his butt off to make the cut and getting the reward is,

like it tells you what was reward. Oh, hey, it's 50 and raining. Have fun. You've got a fuse back in a broken foot, an ankle and leg and all the rest of this. I mean, it's, if he were to say to Augusta National Look, I've fought the good fight this week. It's, I can't 27 tomorrow or 20, whatever it would be. I'm good. Y'all good. I'm good.

You're a five-time champ. I can't imagine they'd be upset with him if he were to say, no, Moss. And at the same time, because of the reverence he has for the event, if he were to come try to finish, wouldn't surprise me I just don't know what for what you know you've got nothing to prove to anyone and I just don't know I don't know why you do it I don't know why you do it I mean for the people that didn't see it it was it was not a limp we've seen from him and anything since he's returned I mean it was like could barely put any weight on it and And that's, it was right before the horn blew. I don't know if he was even gonna finish 17.

And I don't know if the delay helps him at all or maybe he'll feel better tomorrow, but I don't see any reason to go do it now. Here's the thing I'd say, and only he knows, right, fellas? Only he knows what is it he went through to even be out there this morning to finish and then to make it and then what was he went through to even be out there this morning to finish and then to make it and then what was he going through physically and then what was required to be out there first

thing tomorrow. I mean, only he knows that. And again, if he were to say, I can't go, I don't know who would hold that against him. What do you make of what we've seen on Brooks Kepp? I don't feel bad at all for not having seen this coming. I don't I don't I'm not kicking myself at all for for not having him in any of my picks, but he I keep thinking like, all right, well, in the different conditions, this might look a little differently. He looked the exact same coming out today. Do you think we're looking at you think we're looking at a green jacket for Brooks Capka?

There's a real interesting sequence coming on 7 tomorrow morning. I mean, Rob's got a putt and for birdie and Brooks has a putt for par if I'm not mistaken. If if Rob Hoops is and Brooks misses him, I mean, you get a real quick two shot swing. But I mean, based on how Brooks has played, it doesn't feel like he's going to wobble. I actually, I actually, guys, I liked him pre-tournament and like people say, who do you like? I said Xander, but when they'd say, well, who else? I kept saying Kevga and it was all health-related. And when I spoke to him yesterday, I asked him to just sort of describe what is it you can do to the ceiling of your talents that you couldn't do to injury.

And he was, he said, he was doing just like a stack and tilt because he just couldn't get to his right side. And it was just, he was just sort of BS in his way around the golf course. And by that, I just mean not putting his best effort into it, but he just didn't have his, he didn't have the physical ability to swing at it correctly. He told Michael leaves afterwards in round one,

basically just flushing the last two years. So he played well here. That's always my greatest. I don't care if you played well in the past, or like the last couple of weeks. I care how you played well here. He just happened to have played well recently and has played well here and he was healthy.

So, I mean, look, you guys know as well as anybody. On the big stage and the biggest events that gets his full attention. And you typically get the best version of Brooks Keppga. And I mean, look, him and Rahm and the arena, if it's those two, if they, you know, I know how much you love the match play best, but I mean, if that's what it essentially becomes,

who's bummed out about that? Nobody. Scott, I followed Phil a little bit this week. I know Brooks doesn't really surprise you, didn't't surprise me either. I thought you play well. But how about Phil? What do you think about what's Phil's? If you say that you had him in your picks, I will not believe that part. I did not. No brainer for group D. I did not. I did not. Not, not close. I saw him. We chatted for a while. I was just I was eyeballing I'm just looking at this version of Phil just surreal It's like he looks like bones. Yeah, it's but did I see this coming? Absolutely not and all credit to him

But I mean look at Freddy. I mean you know what I mean like I think there's a there's a list of people Fills on it Couples is on it for the longest time Bernhard longer was on it, although maybe that's not the best example because he just will win until he's a hundred. But there are certain guys that it really doesn't matter what form they're in, they walk in here and if they play well, you just go, well, yeah, that's just sort of what they do.

But all credit to fill, I mean, he's put himself in the mix, I mean, well, he was six at one point today. Or was it seven? Whatever it was, it was close. I mean, it's as close as anybody kind of not in that ROM cap-good group, but it's totally left field. No, I absolutely didn't see that at all. When you say this version of Phil,

I think of this tweet that I don't know who this gentleman is, but he tweeted a couple of weeks ago of Phil, say he looks like an ex-FL coach about to explain a 39 to 7 loss. I mean, it's a look. Well, it's like a right because like an XFL like those logos you like, I don't know or those the battle cats. I don't know who it is. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I'm sorry. I don't. I'm not super dialed into what the live logos are. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, put it out there and we back up. You guys tweeted that today, didn't you? Yeah, I put my own twist on that one, but that photo of him at that press conference is just freaking perfect. I love it. So Scott, as a, as just as a purely as a fan, you think that live stuff makes Brooks more interesting or less interesting coming into this. Yeah. I think from this from this from this standpoint it's

what what's what will they do with it? I mean like Greg Greg suggested that all the guys are gonna be here to like storm the green or something. I mean didn't say that but I mean that was what he suggested. I mean remember when Tiger 1 in 19 that that outpouring of respect you saw was totally organic. People just waited just to reach out and show the guy the love. I don't know what would happen from like post-immediate post-match, but I mean, look, it's an undeniable feather in their cap to have one of theirs when one of the biggest events in the world. And it would just be huge moving forward simply because the healthy Brooks Capka on, you

know, US Open Stage, your Oak Hill and then LA and then Open Championship. I mean, it would totally change how we see him and would remind everyone that for that 18 month stretch of golf, no one in the world was close. I think, and I mean, for me, frankly, the whole tour versus tour thing, I find not interesting. And I said as much prior to. I think, I mean, Camp Smith's here, great to see him play.

Fills playing well, great to see him play. I just like seeing everyone play against one another, but Played at his best of abilities Brooks Kevgood. That's awesome for the game of golf Okay, it's got I wanted to make sure that we could have an ESPN reunion here That was my one wish that so so we're gonna bring in another one of our old friends here to join us here There he is. Hey, Mr. Wright Thompson, welcome to the show. How are you, man? I'm great. We felt bad. We had just sitting in the bullpen for way too long.

You know, you you're getting too many reps in the bullpen that your arms gonna get a little tired in there. So warm it up. Well, you know, I'm just a pleasure to be in the What's your gust of week been like? It's been really good, man. We last night we had made carbonara. For that, we had steaks. Really big ones like Burr-Fed for worse in Georgia. What else do we do? We had a really good week. Had a good week There's a golf tournament also that happened so we've been doing that

partial Yeah, partial golf tournament and you know watching Tiger Woods I mean like I don't know it makes me actually kind of emotional just that like I find it as interesting and impressive as him going out and destroying fields. What did you see this morning from Tiger? I know you were up pretty early. You were sort of seeing Tiger grind a little bit on the range.

You know, Ben Pelt was probably the only other guy who's up as early as you this morning. What was the genesis of your story this morning? You know, the tiger, I got a text from somebody who was at Augusta National, who was just like, Tiger Woods just pulled up and he is the only player here and I was oh my god and so like I just find it interesting that that he is working this hard to be a diminished version of himself and you would always felt to me that like if you go back and read all the transcripts I did that big story on

tiger a couple years ago and I went and read all of the transcripts. And the number of times he talked about Nicholas's record without it being asked is actually very, very small. Like it was almost always in response to a question. And it's kind of hard and finding, there are only a couple of times on the record where he would even acknowledge it really. And then it is always seen like there was something very private going on in public.

You're nodding Scott. What's your reaction to that? No, I think, I think I agree with right. But I can recall vividly right being the one that was pressing him on the topic. And I was asking like 100 wins or 19. And it was like 19. And I said, you know, I forget it. I got to 19 or something else. And he would, this is prior to any real injury.

And that was when, you know, that number still was the finish line. But it was only in response to me pressing that just because I wanted to know it. I personally feel that that number went away. And for him, what became the finish line was same and Charlie seen it once. And so I felt like I feel like 19 when he, you know, he got to hug the children in the spot where he hugged the parents to me that became Circle of life and right. I just finished reading your story about circle of life in a very different way and and I agree I'm as impressed as you are at the will to grind it out It's not anonymity But he's DFL he's DFL right now, you know

and you know that's that's he's been number one more than most, but I, I'm with you. I, there's something that's almost noble about the fight, isn't it? I feel like Scott and you and Wright have been taken that, you know, go ahead, right. No, you go. I feel like the two of you have been thinking and talking about Tiger Woods for as long as anybody I know I'm curious to sort of if you see a more vulnerable Tiger Woods Someone who's willing to sort of share a little bit more open up a little bit about their their process their family There's a lot of things that I think we're seeing more Tiger and I'm curious to your perspective. Scott your your maybe a little skeptical

I think yes and no, I mean, I've known them a long time maybe a little skeptical. I think yes and no. I mean, I've known them a long time. And, you know, there's things that are private that aren't anyone's business really, but just I I believe I believe in what that moment that you saw with Charlie was, you know, I really believe in the power of what that what that was for him. And I think if you're asking, is he willing to share that? Well, yeah, you saw it. And he didn't hide what it meant. But if you're asking, is he going to sit down and really explain to you?

No, I don't think that. His has been largely the screen door conversation. You knock on the door, he'll open it, but you're still having that combo, the screen door conversation, right? You knock on the door, hello, open it, but you're still having that combo through the screen door. Is he asking you to come down? It comes sit down in the living room and really talk, probably not.

But there are glimpses of more, yes, undeniably. And there's a more vulnerable man, yes. But I mean, is he to share those in depth? No, I don't really, I don't think so. Yeah, right? You know, it's interesting. I mean, I don't know him at all, you know. And I mean, I think that's an interesting dichotomy.

And, you know, I guess here's the right thing. I think that that becomes reason, scandal, and all of these things that the person in front of you is much closer to the actual person that he is than maybe the person who was at a podium in 2005 was. No doubt. And that, you know, he's not a hero or a villain. He's just a guy with a real personal life likes to spend time with his kids and loves the solitude of a craft and likes to try to be really good at it and that is

its own reward in a way and I just feel like it I don't know if you sense that I think a possible explanation for why is that he's much closer to the dropout truckers layer kvv there's a much difference in the man I want to be in the man that I really am. I feel like there's some back going on. I'd say this, I'd say this, no one's more gifted, no one is more gifted than my friend, right Thompson, at the essence of what is in terms of writing about an athlete. And I think what you just said is entirely accurate.

The really fascinating part, and that word is overused, but I think it's, to me, it's fascinating, is being the man who lives inside the body that used to do the other thing that now can only do this. That's fascinating. And then the why, the why is the real, that's the crux of it all. I love it. Well, we're going to let you, we can talk to you guys all night long about Tiger Woods, but we know you guys have the things to do as well. So we really appreciate you both Scott and Wright for jumping on and helping us get through this rain delay. And we hope we were in for an epic finale to the 2023 masters. So go ahead. Thank you, boys.

Do you want to see what do you want to see what's on our stove right now? Yeah. I do. If your connection will allow it, because it's I see. You got what I live such a more a more interesting Augusta existence than I do.

It's just he's he's an absolute bomb of on. I love. SVP you're talking about the underbelly of a gust. I mean, I feel like you got to see up with right. We're a weird bro. Yeah, Scott. I'll text you the address. So you can go.

The hell love it. He's for the podcast listeners, right is showing some. It's Italian night at the house where right welcomes all people and it is excellent looking some carbonara I know lots of good stuff. So all right well thank you to both thank you to write especially for testing the Wi-Fi limits of your of your B&B there in Augusta. So thanks to both SVP appreciate as always we'll see you guys soon take care. Thank you. Thank you. You're brother. All right. We want to give a shout out to our friends at Roeback active where you guys are all extremely familiar with it

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Guys, God admit I was feeling it a little bit for JT. He surprisingly did a walk and talk on the 14th hole. In a lot of conditions that kind of calmed down a little bit for JT. He surprisingly did a walk and talk on the 14th hole. In a lot of conditions, it kind of calmed down a little bit at that point. But he referenced having a lot of golf left to play on that day. And it did not go well for him after that. And it was a great segment. I'm really glad they did it.

I'm wondering what is reaction to that's going to be after what happened after it and missing the cut by one. But him falling backwards got tiger inside the cut line, which again, as we've asserted, it was maybe not the best possible. Could have been a lose lose. Yeah. Well, it's, we talked about it last night. When is one of these walking talks going to go poorly? It didn't really go poorly. But on the rewatch, JT said something that was

like on the rewatch was like, ooh, ooh, levels were high. You're stringing this protein shake. Is that your breakfast there? And he's like, yeah, just protein. I'm in for a long day. And I was like, ooh, I don't know. On the rewatch, I don't know if we're in for a long day. You might be going home early.

So I hope that doesn't discourage JT from doing that again. But it didn't go well after that walk and talk for him. So, you know, that's the first time I can think of a player maybe walking off the course saying, I don't want to do that anymore. That threw me out of my rhythm. Even though like on that whole, he hit a good approach and then he took the earpiece out and didn't have it on the green. And I want to be clear, I don't want to give him, that's, we're not explaining the way what happened after that, strictly because of the walk

and talk, right? He might, you know, that may have messed up the flow a little bit or whatnot, but it's me for correlation, but we're not, but I can see the first call for not just JT, any of these guys mean like, man, personally saying, like, that could be something that they say, like, I don't, I don't want to do it. I don't like that.

Through me out of my rhythm. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I don't want to do it. I don't like that. Through me out of my rhythm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know why we needed it at the master. So, you know, it's kind of like, it might just be a step too far. I enjoy it, but it's just surprising to me

that players are, again, I think players need to be working harder at making PGA tour golf more entertaining and should be doing that. I don't know if the master's, it's still additive for the master's, but it's also kind of like, dude, this is different. This is not just like an entertainment product. This is a very, very serious golf competition.

I don't know, I'll take it at the first place. Oh, I'll take it. I'll take it. I just think that was a, I don't think 14 was a good spot for it. I mean, I feel like earlier in the round is a little like. I'm gonna guess there's some horse trading going on as far as like, yeah, I don't really want to do it on 13 because like there's a lot to discuss no I'm talking more like seven eight Sure like before end of the front nine

Somewhere in there. It just feels like late in the back nine is a tough spot to you know Walk up and be like hey, you put this air pot in there's got to be a reason maxed on 14 and JT did I'm guessing that was probably like you know I still found it very interesting that they're, you know, I don't know if A-Dyron gets 150, if I can hit an A-Dyron, 159 now, like I looked it up, his carry distance is 172 with an A-Dyron and he doesn't think he can get one 159 with it, it was just,

that was like put me in the zone in terms of what the conditions actually were. And again, it's not the sexiest stuff, but it's just super engaging for them to try to figure out where they're trying to hit the ball and all that. So I enjoy it. I've just like kind of very, I'd be absolutely stunned if somebody did it

in the final round of the Masters tomorrow. I would like to see, I would like to see JT get double points in the pit for doing that. You know, so it doesn't feel like he's been burned by this situation. The look on his face on 18 green, man, I don't remember ever seeing that on his face. He just

looked like he was ready to cry. I just like couldn't stop shaking his head. Bogey the last two holes to miss the cut. I know that's just got to be it. That look pretty gut wrenching to to have missed it that way. Disappointing week for him. I'm sure it does. I know he he he complains about this a lot. Does seem like he gets the bad draw a lot. It really does. He did the PGA last year. It's still managed to win it, but yeah, that was, that was not a fun part of the day. I keep coming back to Kevin, what you said in the,

in the preview about JT maybe not being 100% right? And, and I could see like a week like this, it's, it's almost a little tiny bit analogous, maybe just some of the stuff we saw from Brooks over the last couple of years, but when you're already, if he is playing, you know, not quite a full strength, which I don't know if we have like confirmation on that or not, but when that's a factor and you start making these mistakes and the weather's bad and the mic'd up, like I just see all those things like compounding and compounding and pounding and, you know, you just

end up walking off 18 green being like, man, I really, I don't like it so many shots at this and I just completely blew on. Which is pretty cool. I mean, I feel pretty confident in our sort of the information there about it. I think that, you know, he's trying to sort of fight through it. There's always every single like person who gets injured is like, has a choice between, do you want to sit out for six months or a year or do you want to kind of try to rehab it and play at the same time. And I think he's going through some of that right now. And you know, for all we know, like, might end up being the right

decision. Like I think JT at 80% could like win at Liverpool, could win at Oak Hill. So I understand the decision, but I understand, you know, Matt Fitzpatrick is making the same decision right now. He's got a bad next situation and he's trying to fight through it. And look at him. He's doing all right this week. He's open the top 15. So. He might get the ultimate mutter.

Will you count out JT now this week? KBV will show it. I should honestly be taking bids for the people who want me to count them out. I bet Rory is going to be like, not count like, could you write me off, man? I would actually wrote a thread about that today. I was like, maybe the next step for Rory is to have everybody be like, yeah, dude, you're never gonna win this. And so it's just like to stick it to people.

He will finally reset his brain mentally about it. I think there's something very real about that. That's a great point. It's like the, who is the D-Lime in for the Jags? They used to have the trainer slap him. Oh, God. John Henderson? Yeah. It's like GVV is gonna be the trainer. It. Oh, God. John Henderson. Yeah.

Like, it's like KVV is going to be the trainer. It's like, yo, I want you to be hitting me as hard as you can. Okay. Just slap me across the face. Give me a little bit. Tell it where it's going. Tell it where it's going. Yeah, the dear plan.

Well, I mean, Scotty could use the wake up today, because he didn't really deliver. So he had a little bit more like a deep smile on his face. You know, a little bit making room for a while, Dej. Like, wow, wow. And so he was a little, a little hang dog, Mopey yesterday. I felt like the camera lingered on him looking for that a little bit in the, on the front nine.

I will say just don't scottie. 200 today is one of the better rounds out there and is eaked his way with without any putter working at a T14, right? It's not been a, there's was one of the better rounds out there and is eaked his way without any putter working at a T-14, right? It's not been a, there's different levels of no showing and he is still lingering without, I think it's safe to say lingering. He's not gonna win this tournament.

But he could still back to our top five. I mean, I could absolutely see that. I totally, actually was gonna get and write a write Scotty off and write before this. I'd looked at the leaderboard and I was like, oh shit, like no, now he's fulfilling my movie villain prophecy where he just cannot be killed He keeps rising slowly up the leader word maybe he's in this maybe if the leader four-puts the 18th green he'll he'll be there TC is in the chat demanding we talk about Sandy Lyle and Jason co-crack

You want to you want to splash the pot Sully co-crack? K-Man check You want to you want to splash the pot, Sally? Co-Creck came in. That's a crap. The most passionate I've ever seen Co-Creck about anything. He was playing with Sandy Lyle, who is of course playing in his last masters. They got delayed when he had a putt remaining for par. It was going to maybe be his final one or two strokes to be played in his master's championship history. The tree falls last night and play gets suspended very, very, very shortly after that.

Cochreq have some things to say about it. He said, um, you know, to not let the patrons have the patrons lead in at eight o'clock to be around that green damn near unforgivable. He told golf.com. Uh, I think it's the most ridiculous thing. Um, yeah, we sort of were tracking up there by the scoreboard, and I thought, any minute now, there's gonna be a stampede, but yeah, it would have been nice if probably a few more minutes

and I could have had the crowd give me a good send-off. That's sorry, that part is from Sandy Lyle. And he said, co-crack. Co-crack continues. I think it's absolutely chicken shit that they wouldn't grant a special exemption because they weren't gonna blow the horn except, I mean, I understand there was a freak accident,

trees going down, thankfully nobody got hurt. I think that should have been something that could have been something understood by anybody under the umbrella of a gust national and the rules committee to not have a temporary exemption for something like that. I get that there was lightning in the area, but we weren't gonna blow the horn for a few more minutes.

What did it take us to play that whole two minutes maybe, so to not let him tap into one footer or make the 12 footer, I think they could have done something else, but they seem to have urgency, they seem to not care. So I think it's something that will be lost, not so much for him, he'll remember it forever. I enjoyed my time with Sandy. I think he should have been able to finish, especially with the patrons around there. That's what makes this place so great is the golf IQ of the patrons out here or the fans that come out to Augusta because they knew what was going on. And I think they wanted to see him make his last putt. And think

about the ones that just had the near death experience, they were probably just like living in high depth, ready to really soak in that. And it was wrapped. That's that's strike too. I almost I almost saw God, but I really wanted to see Samuel out part of this big, this part, but. You missed his sign off. I think he signed out the quote with Trimie. I thought it was somewhere in there that they should be ashamed of themselves. I couldn't find that quote in there.

But yeah, to call it absolute chicken shit, I was like, I think it's kind of the opposite of chicken shit. It's kind of like, hey man, there's a, there's an actual emergency probably going on here and we need to get people off his golf course in the evening. I don't think I've heard chicken shit in a quote since John Torrella When he was the Tampa Bay Lightnings NHL coach. That's that's chicken shit. That's got to stop. There it is I said this at the moment and he's not gonna get it He's not gonna get it again

So I think Augusta National and the Rules Committee should be ashamed of themselves And I'm really disappointed for him and his family for not to be able to have that moment. So I it's typical tour pro of like only being able to understand directly what's in front of you and not a big picture at all and not a yeah, dude, when there's a weather emergency, like the rule here is that everyone's got to stop play. And there's a reason we got to get everyone off the ground. Like we can't have you like playing around on the 18th green and have your big moment like no we gotta go now do

we want this to happen of course not but yeah I just thought there could have been a special exemption. I don't know how uh... none of the green jackets hit hit uh... hashback coke rack with the uh... steve naysmith so let me stop you out there we don't we don't we don't care. We don't care. But I will say to Sandy Lyle, credit, watched him, or maybe was Larry Meyers, I watched tap in this morning. Sandy Lyle's waiting right there for him. They both like took the Bob sled. You know, I think he shot. He missed a bogey putt to shoot at 80-80 and they put the Bob sled on the shoulder and

they walked right up to the clubhouse. It was great. Very cool. Chills. You know I'm a Sandy Lyle fan. However, I would like to address the issue. You know I'm sensitive about trees falling down. But, however, what else is what else happened today? What else are we forgetting here? Little Sam Bennett talk amateur. I thought he held up well. He started bogey bogey, but I I think he righted the ship he hit a really good shot in the sixth the par three and it felt like he was

Starting to get some momentum and and settle himself a little bit So I don't see him corining down the leaderboard tomorrow But I don't also know if it's gonna win, but I think he deserves a ton of credit for I feel like after two it could have gotten out of hand. You bogey two, that's when the wheels can come off pretty quick on the front nine. He was seeing a red coat down there, Neil. That's not how he did it.

I didn't see, unfortunately I was unable to see it. He visited the Delta counter. He was, he was checked out, it looked like he had some flight delays. Just wasn't a great spot down there. And I imagine he doesn't have a ton of status, right? As an amateur. Right. No, it's probably got all these million milers that are in there.

He's silver gold medallion. Right. So yeah, I think he's silver. He gets upgraded for like, you know, maybe boys eat a salt lake or something. The home is boarding home to for sure. You know, he won a special exemption down there. It does not say SKY on his boarding pass. No, we're going to be, uh, yeah, we'll call you for group four. Have you tried to get one of those American express cards that get you like into

group four, but it just not a lot of pay off there? That's the good stuff. T.C. is adding that they turn them away from the Sky Club in Terminal B. T.C. might be loitering. Yeah, we might need to bring him in. He's the most involved person in the chat. But I want to check in next with our next partner, which is athletic greens.

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We don't have a lot of golf to react to, so we go ahead. I think I came up with a little game. I thought it'd be kind of fun that we could bounce around some scenarios and some little round table discussion here. So I'm going to kick us off here. I'm going to go to you, Neil. We're going to go best case scenario for a winner. And I'm going to bounce up to each one of you, but Neil,

I'm going to just start us off here. Well, I was locked up with with SVP I'm I'm looking forward to ROM and Capca in the arena I think it's a two-man I'm trying to think of a way like dual in the not it's like not dual the mules obviously they're not mules but like I can't come up with something. It's gonna be the opposite of a duel of the mules and I think I feel winner is ROM is Rom and I really want it. If I could write the script, Brooks continues to play Haitian golf, doesn't blink and doesn't get frazzled and Rom just tracks him down almost similar to what he did at Coppola when he just came

charging up to beat Colin and it's just down to the wire. Um, that would be my ideal winner and situation. All right. Deach, let's bounce it to you. Yeah. And first of all, I appreciate the, the, uh, comment from someone saying I was just talking about having coffee on the show last night. Deak half coffee, guys.

I told you, I'm out of caffeine, but we'll take that again. So find a new slap. Uh, uh, the, uh, Neil, I'm out of caffeine, but we'll take that again. So find a new slap. Yeah. The, you know, I'm gonna take the opposite tack. It's good TV. I'm going to, I'm gonna say Brooks is the most interesting situation up there. Now skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, come on, skip, skip,

skip, skip, and I think that I actually am going to go back to what Wright and SVP were saying as well about you know kind of being the guy who once did something and then losing the ability to do that and still being the same guy. And now Brooks is trying to figure out if he can also go back to the first guy right and he's trying to figure that out in real time. I tweeted something about this but I think the full swing stuff the the thing that everybody was kept saying about full swing was like oh it's gonna bring all these new people into the game and I think the full swing stuff, the thing that everybody kept saying about full swing was like, oh, it's going to bring all these new people into the game. And I think we almost kind of underrated like how much more interesting it could make some players that we were already dying to see more from.

And Brooks' exhibit A of that for me. Where it's like, man, I've always thought he was very one dimensional, very boring, very pick-ish, very performative. And he still is a good number of some of those things. But I do think there's more going on. I think there was a little more vulnerability, and I think he's got some more stuff like kind of going on in his mind,

and with confidence, and with his, you know, confidence. And I'm like very fascinated to see if he can battle, the elements battle the most relentless player in the world, battle injuries elements battle the most relentless player in the world battle injuries battle mental demons battle all these things on You know, I kind of the most famous golf tournament in Certainly America if not the world and on on the biggest stage we have and see if he can do that So I think that would be fascinating if he pulls it off

And I'm kind of low-key rooting for him and I I think that's going to make, so I guess, sorry, to get back to the original question, what is the best case scenario for a winner? I think he's the guy that is going to be the most interesting for people. I think he's the guy that makes you feel the most positive. Can I rebuttal? Please.

Sorry, I don't want to cut into your time here, but I would say that storyline, I see it, I agree with you, that's it. I agree with you. That's compelling. I just think it would be too easy. If we're talking about adversity, I'd love to see Brooke get right to the precipice and get it yanked away from him by John Rom. That to me is great.

That's great. Yeah. So when we're talking about what is your ideal scenario? It's Brooke's seeing the finish line. And here comes Mr. Freeze Tracking his ass down in the in the truest park outfield. I guess where I always come back to is Solid we say this a lot. I know but Like it's very fun to root for history and watching someone get from four to five is a big fucking deal huge and we're not gonna like

Realistically other than Rory and you know, maybe I mean Speak I've just had a image of him in the trees flash into my head. I mean like very possible that nobody from this generation gets to five, right? And it's just, I don't know, when you start looking at it like that, it's like, Ram getting to two or Brooks getting to five, like what's more interesting? I think it's Brooks. I don't know. I think the best case scenario is kind of what you laid out and they're near the end, which is Ram edging out a still, somebody, a still achieving Broke's capca, right? Like one that's sprinting through the finish line.

I don't think it's a win if he fades, right? Brooks is still one of, if not like the champion of this generation, depending on how you define the generation, but like ever since Brooks has gotten involved, Rory has not won any majors. So more recently, Brooks is the dude of the generation, right? And again, I think people in the tribal nature of everything, probably as many times I've tried to explain it, like don't see the nuance in this.

And when I say like, I don't root for like the live golfers to fail in any way, but one of the things that has bummed me out about like dudes that have achieved a lot going to live is the fact that it either feels like a bailout or it feels like the end of their competitive golf reign, if you will. And if that's not the case, I will feel better about that, right? I still won't enjoy the aspects of live.

I won't enjoy what it's done to week to week golf. I don't think that it should be split off into different factions and I just think it's very silly. But when these guys get together at majors, like Brooks still being an achiever in this generation, like gives me a little bit of hope. Like that's really freaking competitive. That's awesome.

I, I don't know, I'm intrigued by that storyline, right? And I don't want to see Brooks fail. So I don't know if I, I think I still, right? And I don't want to see Brooks fail. So I don't know if I, I think I still would be, like Brooks sprinting through the finish line and going and run away with it would be not best case scenario, but that's not like Doomsday either. Like that's a statement return that not a lot of people saw coming, you know, there's almost always health

that precedes a top player falling off in some way. Roy being the exception, and I don't really know how to explain it, but it still felt like, you know, it didn't feel like this was right about to happen. Again, I'm not counting Liv Orlando to like say, like, oh, we should have seen this coming. But again, he just every day, and the next, every night on the show, I'm like, that will see him do it tomorrow. See him do it tomorrow, and he keeps doing it. And I'd be stunned now at this point if he didn't, you know, end up 13, 14, 15 under by

the end of tomorrow. All right. So my scenario, I do not think that Luke that Brooks is particularly like enthusiastic about live. I think he's a little bit lukewarm. I mean, sort of like I had to kind of do this. However, I think the best case scenario for like the fun of the next six months Would be if Brooks like one and then just stunt it all over on the gay like the shoag night like death row speech

Hey y'all want you come on over To join us up with death row if you want to you want to get keep your money You want to get tired of Jay monahan dancing in all the videos do whatever? I think that would be really sick. Yes. So I think all you little live trolls out there who love to sort of complain about like how I, you know, I don't like to live stuff. I actually think that would be really sick if that happened.

And I think there's a decent chance. I don't think Brooks is like that sort of demonstrative about it. I think he's kind of just like, whatever, live, it's cool. I got my millions, but that would be cool. That seems to not go quite with the, not even rumors, the very real stories of him asking about his path back to the BJ tour. And that would be quite a surprise, but yes.

That's why I think this is so interesting if he goes and wins, right? Is like if he goes and proves like, man, I am good enough to beat the shit out of the best players in the World and now I only get to try to prove it four times a year maybe that's felt he cares about but like I really don't think he wants to go but it was kind of like that before and all these other events but it was kind of like that before like yeah he didn't he also can make his own schedule and he didn't have to go to fucking cocktail parties to go watch these like

steely-danned looking guys playing these plastic pianos and all these like, you know, in the shrimp cocktail shrimp and all like he doesn't have to do all that stuff when she does now and he has to wear a fucking uniform for a made-up team. Like all this stuff is so stupid and if he goes and wins the Masters he still has to go do it and I think that's awesome and fascinating. And like again like I you might not root for it but like dude show me that movie. I want to I want to see more about that like Tell me like it's straight up. Yes or no binary question like who makes you feel more stuff when they're on the golf course Rom or Brooks positive or negative?

I would say by style play rom does slightly I find like a question. I feel that is a good question, but Brooks is I think it was I keep come back to the word patient like when he is the classic front runner and I it kind of find it boring like the way that when he's got it going like it's not super exciting to watch it's it's kind of an overpowering middle of the green pick your spots kind of golf. And that's a compliment. You know what I mean? But at the same time, it isn't... KVV, I don't want to jump ahead here,

but worst case scenario for me is if he runs away and hides. And that's more of a short-term thing. I know it'll be accused of like, oh, it's just because he's at live. No, it's because that'll be boring tomorrow. Because the course won't be getable and no one can charge. And he's just almost dangling the carrot. No, it can't get there. Like that to me is like long term, I think the narrative and the, you know, the storyline and the career arc of Brooks becomes more

interesting. But if we're talking about what I want to see tomorrow, like that kind of feels like a snooze fest. It's an interesting, I want to stick on this. Sorry, because there's a really interesting question because I struggled with that in my own head. And I think it's kind of the easy answer is Brooks, because he has four majors, right, in four to five for the exact reason you said. Yet, if I'm, I feel somewhat heavily invested in ROM, and because I think one, he's gonna win the grant sale, of course.

But two, it's like, I think he's gonna win. What do you think ROM ends his career with if you're sitting here right now? What's the overrunner? Three and a half majors? 11. Okay, 11, that do you think Rom ends his career with? If you're sitting here right now, what's the overrunner? Three and a half majors? 11. Okay, 11. That's kidding.

I'm kidding. I mean, three and a half would be great. Three and a half would be a great line. Right, so I think we're on the upswing of that and I feel like I feel invested in that part of the process. Not every golf fan may, but I feel like, you know. Like Logan Roy is three and a half less than five, but I feel like, you know, like Logan Roy is three and a half less than five. Right, but I, you know, three and a half less than five.

That's a good question. Yeah. That's a great question. Alright, so let's go to reverse Nick Drafts. All right. Neil's already thrown out his worst case scenario. What's your worst case scenario? Team Rose. Okay. I'll save time. That's what I as well. Okay. Sort of a massive, how would we get to that massive collapse by the various leaders, you know, Rose 65 on, so, you know, Sunday. Again, looking at this leaderboard, I think it is a two-man race, but it's just worth noting like Rose is two shots out of third place, right? It's, there's not a lot of dudes between him and the very top. And so I'm not a lot of the dudes at 400, do I think Ken win it?

I'd be very, very surprised to fill one. That might be best case scenario. I feel K back in one this. That might be the number one. But the only thing I'm, the only reason not to rule out like Morakawa, I don't think Hovelin's gonna win, but I wouldn't rule out Morakawa at 500 par with,

he's got 29 holes to go. Keppgen Ram have 30 holes to go. Still a lot of golf. If that lead is two or three going into Sunday, obviously that's lead has been taken. There's a six shot lead going to the back nine at this tournament that has been a race before, like in 2016. So look, it's always easy when the leaderboard pauses for a minute

To like think to like have your eyes go to the very top and think that's where it's gonna come from But again with this much golf to play it it would not surprise me if someone made a crazy run Yeah, all right my yeah, go ahead. Well the only thing I'd add is I look down the leaderboard But I just didn't think any of those were realistic to even bring up. Sure. I feel like I do feel like it's more risk. Too much respect for the tournament to even bring that up. Yeah.

I think that actually a can't lay charge is like a little bit realistic. I think that would be my worst case scenario, not because I hate Patrick Cantlay, but because I feel like we don't really know anything about Patrick Cantlay, and he's never going to give us any sort of juice. I think Patrick Cantlay is also like a real live candidate like he could get the masters Title me like well. I'm in the masters forever. So go me and Zander are going to live I think that would be a real boring come on get in Zander Yeah, that's a saying hypothetically you just lay out. Oh absolutely. I have nothing to support this other than just like you know

Totally random, but but I'm that's what I other than just like, you know, totally random. But that's what I'm saying. It's my worst case scenario. Like, I, Patrick Cantlay, to me, just doesn't do, he's a great golfer and I think that his talent could suddenly like appear on a Sunday and turn into 66 when everybody else was stinking. But that would be my sort of worst case scenario.

Imagine Patrick Cantlay giving like a post-round speech about like, yeah, it was cool. Like, you know, just kind of get some good shots and, oh man, that'd be a tough to run to write. It would, I still, you know, the most recent Kentley pod was not, I wouldn't call it the most electric interview we've ever done, but I still do go, like, send people back to April 2020 pod we did with him, which was like, dude, Kentley's not the most boring person ever. Like, listen to this and it's hard.

Yeah, I think, yeah. I mean, he's very smart. He can be. I mean, maybe I caught him on a bad day and he wasn't, you know, his most turned on or maybe the monotone, you know, nature of it kind of didn't really excite people. But he is a smart dude.

He is set in his ways and he is going to say what he feels and it's not gonna change his mind really on much of anything. But I don't know if he's fully as boring as some people would say he of anything, but I don't know if he's fully as boring as some people would say he is. I don't know. I might be leaning too much on a three-year-old interview, but I found that interview very entertaining. No, I agree with you.

I think he's done, there's a lot of other examples. He's been really good in press conferences. He's been good. When he gets talking on a subject that interests him, I think he's really good. And I think him getting, it's almost like going from four to five, like him going from zero to one is a big deal. And being a major championship golfer and, you know, it's kind of the difference between like,

I don't know who would be a good example, but like that's, you still look at Web Simpson in like a slightly different way. And I know that's not an exciting sentence, but you do, right? Because it's like, well, yeah, you want a fucking major, right? And I can't like kind of see if he should be there. And that's where I come back with ROM is like, dude, ROM needs more majors than Web Simpson. He needs more than Gary Woodland.

He needs more than Danny Willett. And I know he's not quite, he's not even 30 yet. Like, it's unfair to say probably at this point, but like, it's time for him to have two. It really is. It's got to come this year. He's got to end this year with at least two majors. So I really, it's his time. It really is. Yeah, I I guess and my worst case scenario is not Brooks winning. It's just him winning in a very like I don't know sterile way right. I don't think he's backing up that's that's something I would like put on record like I don't think he shouldn't worsen. Even par tomorrow.

So if Brooks pulled an emelman and just was like fine on the last day, but no one else could come out of him and they eat one by four or five, that would be the worst case scenario. Basically, yeah. Or like he or he shoots, you know, I think it's like he shoots 68 on, you know, in the fourth round and just birdies all the parfives and it's just like, damn man. And nobody can everybody's pressing and nobody gets within that three, two, three shot. I just wanna see, I wanna see the duel, right?

I would like him to, I don't want him to blink. I just want Rom to go get it. And I think DJ to your point, like that would make me feel some things. Like when you talk, like Rom does make me feel some things. When he's charging at, you know, a couple of Lua, it's like, oh man, this guy is so good. Like he's so good at golf.

And when he gets it going, he's the terminator. I want to see Ron play some offense. That, that, right? I mean, I didn't love today's conditions for him. Like, but he played freaking offense from the second hole of Thursday up through the end of round two, even through this morning. He was sprinting through that.

He deserves so much credit for how he played on the horrible side of the draw. I mean, he's a fucking gamer. Like he can play in birdie fest and he can grind it out in the US open. Like I feel like Ram is a complete player. And so I want to see him go on offense. So that's really well said.

KVV, we're going to pause your game because we have an unexpected guess. I wasn't sure if we were going to be able to bring her in, but huge fan of this next guest, you can see here on the whole 15 and 16 stream on masters.com. She's been an incredible commentator over there. Miss Iona Steven, welcome to the show.

How are you, Iona? Thank you very much. I'm doing great, guys. How are we all doing here? What are you, how are you spending the rain delay? What's a day after everything gets called, look like for you? Well, right now I'm sitting on a very bougie chair in my, in my house that I'm staying in this week in Augusta, Georgia and I'm looking at the window, the rain is bucketing down

and we were all sent home eventually. After the rain was proving too hard for everyone, including ourselves. We were we were finding that really difficult, you know, the atmosphere and the energy had kind of dropped and I think everyone was feeling as we would say in Scotland a little bit dream. I don't know if I could say that word. DREICH. Okay. Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, that's what I thought. I just thought it was true. I flipped, I have multiple, multiple streams going, and I flipped over to 15 and 16 today, and I got over there,

and you were just nailing the clubs, all these guys were hitting. If they pulled eight iron, you were just like, yeah, this is not gonna get there. Like, you get to watch the same holes kind of on repeat. What's that process like of seeing guys make the same mistake and being able to club them like that? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I would never make such bull calls, I think in my

commentry when I'm normally out there on course in the DP World Tour, because you never know what magic a player can produce, right? But when you're sitting there for seven hours a day, watching the whole and watching how they're taking it on, and you get an idea of, you know, these young guns who had an X amount of distance and then the more senior players were coming through and we were like, okay, well, this is now between a six and a five iron. The big hitters come in, it's like, okay, is it an eight or nine iron and then occasionally you have someone like Ryan Fox that just rocks up with a pitching wedge

and just like muscles one in there to the flag to within the foot and you're like, okay, but you know, it's really fascinating, this is the first time I've ever commentated on feature holes and I wasn't sure how that was going to feel, you know, seven hours, commentating on two holes, despite the fact they're great holes, you know, key protagonist that the master is a par five and a par three, I was a bit anxious thinking I'm gonna have enough to say here, but it turns out it's one of the most enjoyable weeks of commentary I've ever had so far. Every single shot is different and you never run out of things to say. My co-commentator Ned Michaels, I've got to give him a shout out, he's

absolutely wonderful to work with. We are having a hoot in there and you know we're just it's so interesting seeing how each player takes on these holes. The Par 515, so strategic, you know, you've got to get your T-shirt away down that right hand side. It's all about angles. And just listening to the conversations that the caddies are having with their players, that's what we're getting across there on the feature-hole coverage. You get the real depth insight into what the the the way that the

caddies are working with their players and the dynamic that they all have between them, you know, watching, you know, someone like Tyrell Hathen, who's now got boom artin on the bag, who used to caddy for Shane Larry, you know, watching them into comparison to someone like Jordan Spieth coming down. You're getting very different styles of conversation and it's it's it's so interesting and of course down there on the 16th T where sometimes you can sense this just like the oxygen has been sucked out of the room. You're really watching and listening and me and Ned Michaels. I mean we we sound like you know we always come out on top because we have the advantage of having watched, you know, a hundred shots in there already. And yeah, you can see where they all slip down and they're swirling winds around that sixteenth green. So they come down and there was a lot of

conversation this morning with that pin, where the whole location and the center of the green, but up on that top tier. And so many times, players are coming down and going, I don't know, I feel like I want to hit a seven iron in there. And their caddies were sometimes negotiating them to hit the eight iron, and we were going, no, hit the seven iron. Hit the seven iron, and they'd go, yeah, yeah, solid eight iron, we'd be going, no.

That is. It's a seven. I was like, Ned, just run down there. And just sit on the back of that tee. No advice. There's a lot of that going around. Yeah. The crowd really loud.

On your home. Seven. Yeah, so much say seven. Seven. Well, it's been great. You last night on your guy's feed, you guys were for people that don't know. You guys were commentating live don't know, you guys were

Commentating live when the tree fell on 17. Well, take me to that situation. What was that like to call that and you know in live action? That was terrifying really really quite scary moment there and Sergio Garcia was in the bunker to the right of 15 and yeah we're just we're just chatting away, you know, and suddenly we saw these branches falling and we thought, oh, and then sure enough we saw these two two Georgia pines just coming down and you know it was a very natural reaction in terms of our commentary, Ned was like, watch out, you know, because you, you kind of watch as I commentate, you're really watching as a viewer, you know, and this just kind of gave us both such a fright, and obviously the main thing is that nobody was hurt and we're really, really so grateful that that's the case, and I know that the Augusta National do absolutely everything to

make sure that it's a safe place, but when we're in, we're as golfers as we know, it's mother nature that we're dealing with. So ultimately, she holds the cards and sometimes things like that happen, but thankfully, everyone's safe and is okay. But it was, it was a bit of a scary few minutes there and they cut to a scenic of a bridge and Ned and I were really just hoping that everyone was okay. We have a variety of monitors in front of us and we could see on one of them that, you know, there was a lot of scuttling around going on and we were just keeping our fingers crossed and thankfully everyone was fine.

Iona, I was very impressed that you pulled out holy smokes, I believe, was kind of your reaction. The fact that you didn't cuss on air, I put it on. Yeah, well, you can imagine it's not normally holy smokes. It's normally. That's what I mean. I was impressed that you that that's what came out. So I haven't heard holy smokes in a while on the air. Yeah.

Good stuff. I have a curate like a technical question for you. Where do you sit for the for the coverage? Are you up in a tower or are you on the ground somewhere else? Yeah, we're on the ground in what's called the Content Center. Or as the American say, the Conent Center. We're in the Conent Center. And yeah, it's really amazing over there and all the different networks have their own kind of house. It's very posh. I mean, it's wonderful. You go into these beautiful little houses

and in there you've got everything and I'm obviously with CBS this week and it's a real privilege to work with them and round the back. I mean it's like a well oiled machine. That's how I would describe it. There's a lot going on. There's cables flying everywhere but we have a lovely little room that's set up perfectly for commentary monitors in front of us. It's sign proof, you know, great acoustics in there so that everyone at home is happy. And yeah, it's just a wonderful week. Normally we don't get treated this well. And so as commentators, we're living the high life. I love it. And another question, he's did a little bit earlier, but what was the best shot you've seen so far from, you know, the approaching into 15 and then the best caddy player combo?

Hmm, good questions. I mean, the standout shot for me, um, a down these holes of shame, Larry's chip today from the back of 15. Um, that was just a touch of class. And you can see that online. It's gone a little bit viral. He, he hit it through the back of 15 and 2 and I mean Shane Larry with a wedge in his hands is like, I don't know Picasso with a paintbrush, he's an absolute mastermind around the green and this was an impossible shot, absolutely impossible and somehow you managed to

nozzle one in there to like a foot and a half. So that's that's where they have a watch. And I'm going to say for comedy value that Terrell Hatton and Beau Martin has been my favorite combo because Terrell is just so angry the whole time. At the masters. It's handling that. Imagine being mad at the masters. No, you're like what's going on man? You're at the masters. No, you're like, what's going on, man? You're at the masters. You've made the weekend on 16. There was a, Terrell had about an eight or nine-foot pot for par.

After they'd had a long conversation on the tee box about which club to take. This was into the third round now. So the whole location had moved forward by a few yards and back further on the right. So it was again fascinating just listening to how the players were discussing what club they should take. And we saw more players being more aggressive with that whole location because there was more scope to miss it long. And actually the bunker on the right, it wasn't a bad mess for the whole location. You'll see for

the second half of playing the third round tomorrow. You'll see many players going into that bunker on the right hand side and it's actually not too treacherous and up and down from there. And then there's this little bit of grass kind of in between the two bunkers just behind the hole. And that's where Tyrell had in walls. And they'd had Bowen and Tyrell had had a long conversation on the tee about what club to take. And Tyrell was fuming that he had flown the green and was through the back. And then he, he, he, very heavy handed onto the green.

And I just said to Ned, I said, hold on to your hat. If this doesn't go in, then Tyrell will do all the commentary for us, and we don't need to do a thing and thankfully he holds the pot so you could see Bea Martin going like oh thank god you know so I don't know I think that that's that's you know a very entertaining dynamic but of course they're you know Tiger, Jolacaba came down That was quite difficult to watch. Tiger really struggling in those conditions, but every player had a different... That was so short there. It wasn't even close off the tee on 16. That was tough to watch. Really tough. His body wasn't doing what his mind wanted it to do. He doubled 15 and limped his way to the 16th tee. And he was playing alongside Thomas Peters.

He took one short, many players hitting that little ridge there just in front of the flag and it would just speed down into the gully. Tiger obviously trying to try to work a little fade in there and his body just wasn't moving. You know, in those cold conditions, it was absolutely freezing and just went and drink. What do you see? Are you, can you see other golf going on while you're commentating? Do you have screens that are showing other? Do you get a sense of what's going on with the rest of the golf course or when someone shows up on your feet or you're like, oh, wow, Brooks Capka's 13-end or par, how does that work? So we've got a score board and we can see the scores in front of us.

And then obviously we've got our computer and we can we keep we keep in on top of what's happening on the score board and the leader board. But no, it's a really weird feeling actually at the end of the day. You come out of the commentary box, you've been in there for seven, seven and a half hours. And it's like, I know everything that's happened on 15 and 16 16 but not a clue. What's actually happening in the tournament. So I went on to the the the masters Twitter live thing in my jig and yesterday and they said what about Ram star. I mean starting the way he did and I was like, you tell me I mean, that's why yeah. the way he did and I was like you tell me I mean that's why yeah yeah I mean you tell me because I'm fascinated but you know we're trying obviously at the end of the day I'm catching up with things and you know I'm watching watching stuff on the telly at night my house here has got about 14

different televisions to watch so this is obviously a sports fan in this house but yeah I catching up with it but you're really engrossed in 15 and 16. It's a unique experience and fascinating one. I don't know how much prep have you put into catch phrases as calling, calling big moments. You're going to see a lot of buries and eagles on 15 and 16. You got any, any preconceived calls? I've got to be honest, not really. I mean, I've a lot of my commentary I've learned from a man called Ken Bryan, who is... Brownie, of course, yeah. Yeah, he's one of, if not the best commentator in my opinion that's alive on Planet Earth right now.

I mean, he learned from the great Peter Alice, who sadly, I never got to meet and Ken stopped me. I'm gonna say a lot of what I know. And I'm really following in his footsteps in terms of how to approach commentary. And it's a gentle approach that Ken has. And I'm really trying to bring that into the style that I have. I think, you guys know this.

The best and most effective style of commentary and most enjoyable is the most authentic, I think, you guys know this, the best and most effective style of commentary and most enjoyable is the most authentic, I think. So I honestly have nothing that's preconceived, what comes out if it's golly golf or good grief or whatever it was, holy smokes. Yeah, give me another holy smokes if you see a horror or something. Or if you want to hear a holy smokes. Maybe hit us with it with a man that's good content. Or in your life, have you seen that maybe maybe not use that one on 16.

Yeah, there's a few that have been taken, but I'm sure over the next 10, 15 years of my career, there'll be something that comes out that hopefully stands the test of time, but I'm just trying to run, sorry, walk before I can run in this commentary game, and I'm just so privileged to have the opportunity to say anything at all. All right, well, we thank you for jumping on and spending some time with us. People can find you on the whole 15 and 16 feed tomorrow. A lot of golf still left to play, but we greatly appreciate you popping on. We'll definitely have to have you back sometime. So thank you.

Yeah, I'd love that. It's great to see you all and enjoy the rest of the week. Cheers. Thanks. TC is active in the chat and one is demanding, demanding that we have a Michelson prediction for tomorrow. Oh, man. Fill the thrill. Well, it feeds into the most unlikely scenario. I just say we got we got 27 holes with which to predict here. I'd be using feeds into my most unlikely scenario, which is filled with thrill.

Doing the can't lay charts that KVD was talking about earlier, which I think is extremely unlikely, but I think we would all be here for it. What an interesting moment. I mean, what an unreal, surreal thing it would be to see feel like get in the mix and just throw like a Sunday, Jack Jack 65 at everybody. It'd be amazing. I'm definitely rooting for it.

DJ, you're most unlikely scenario. Oh gosh. I mean, it's probably San Bennett, not to be cold water guy, right? I don't think that's the best thing. Selling continues to sell. I continue to sell. I'm sorry, Neil. I hope I hope you get great returns. And I'm proud of you for holding. But, you know, I think

Amon are going and winning the masters is pretty unlikely. I'm going to go on a big limb and say that hot take. Sally. Most unlikely. I mean, there's a lot of very, like I think most unlikely is that Tiger Woods wins the Masters this year. That's probably my most unlikely story. Pretty unlikely. I was also going to say I'd be, I think it's extremely unlikely that he plays golf tomorrow.

I'm keep like refreshing Twitter seeing that he would have withdrawn. But I think, yeah, that or Phil Mickelson winning the Masters would still, like Phil being in the top 10 is also extremely unlikely and him winning would be maybe my most unlikely scenario. I'm going to go with Russell Henley is the winner. If you guys are able to. This is news to me that he is for under par as well. Just learn this. If you guys are allowed to pick Justin Rose, then I'm allowed to pick Russell Henley.

Like, I'd be for that. That'd be fine. It would be like a very much a sack Johnson, Mike, we're tight of win. Like someone who I never thought of as a major winner, but all of a sudden is. So yeah, Mike, we're tired of win, like someone who I never thought of as a major winner, but all of a sudden is. So yeah, that would be my most unlikely. I think most unlikely thing is Zandered and not finished T5. Like, it's like it's it's it's it's it's it's it's birthright.

That's going to happen. He's kind of far back. He's going to need to get hot hot tomorrow to, you know tomorrow to get the guaranteed T4, which I think I did halfway through round four. Before we wrap, we got a little segment on what's the worst golf weather you guys have ever played in? Because today, out there, look like the worst weather I feel like I've ever seen anyone play the Masters in.

One of you could go, we'll start with you, Neil. What's the worst golf weather you've ever played in? So there's a short list, but I think it wasn't as long as it or it lasted for about 13 holes, but Monterey Peninsula Country Club. This is 20 February of 2019. Thank you for a sauce. Thank you to TC for having us. I mean, what did you say?

Thanks to TC for having us out to his course. Of course, but a tourist sauce season three were in the RV. And I thinkaurus saw season three were in the RV And I think the fact that we're in the RV now. This is Valley Bunyan. This is a different one It's Monterrey Peninsula Country Club And I think it was the One time I remember playing golf when there were rivers on the greens

Which is like it's tough. It's tough to do. Yeah. I mean, there's a couple of times I was strapped where it's been really cold, like Tallahassee, when we played that second round deej with Cam Riley. That was up there for just like kind of laymiz. But like this is as bad as it gets. And it was cold and soaked through. I didn't have the proper rain gear. So that probably like has made this kind of imprinted on my memory a little bit. But I think you guys are all there. Would you guys agree or disagree? It's yeah, it's like that scenario of like dude, this is our there's no rain delay option. It's either when you play Monterey Peninsula in the worst possible rain or you don't play

it at all. It's like you might as well go do it and get a fraction of the what the experience is probably like, but the sun didn't come out or the rain did stop on the back nine there. We we powered through. It was very proud to do that. But that was and that's the worst. Yep. And that's where I'll trump yours. Neil is just it also wasn't that cold. Right? Whereas a NIT, the nest invitation alternative a couple years ago in Jacksonville was it looked a lot like today That level of rain except it was also blowing 30 and just all day I think there's a great video of your buddy Tommy on the fourth Just out there beating balls From LA is like he hadn't played golf and was like do this bullshit like let's just go to the rain

It's not that bad out there. And it was not bad. It was just like really, really bad out there. Yeah, so that was it for me. I love that he's doing the gankest thing where you like get the club and the try to show it. He works with a face. He's always not doing that anymore. I talked to him last week.

He's like, I asked if he's still doing the, the, the hinge. He's like, no, no, I quit doing that. But it was working for him for a little while. One of mine is from the summer of S in 2017 when I drove around all around the UK in Ireland for like 40 days playing a lot of golf and I stopped at a course called Fraser Burrow up on the kind of Northeast part north of Crude and Bay. Seven-thousand golf course in the world, it was like a stop on the way and I showed up, you know, I had arranged to come, I showed up and it was just dump it. There was not one single soul, Alan McGolf

course. And you know, there's one car when I pulled in. I still showed up and they're like, yeah, you know, you're welcome to kind of tour the clubhouse if you like. And I was like, I mean, is it cool if I go play? Like I know this is crazy, but can I just go play? They're like, I mean, yeah, if you want to, sure. I was hitting drivers from like 180. It was a true day loose. And at one point, I think the only photo I have from the golf course is that day, wearing, you know, whatever that selfie I took there.

And that was a fun memory I had. I'm glad I toughed it out, because that was a really freaking awesome place. So I had a day at Bannon Dune, a Pacific Dune, some specific where the Caddy said, I don't think we've ever seen it blow this hard, like there were gusts of like 70 miles an hour. And I think I remember I hit a six iron indirectly into the gale, absolutely flushed it and it went like 96 yards. It was awesome.

Truly just absolutely so, like a full, your raincoat is complete, your rain gear is completely soaked, peel it all off, put a second ring gear on, like halfway through, get completely soaked, peel that off, take a hot shower. Well, I had a question for you guys that I wanted to pose it, which was, what is your favorite rainy golf hack? Or did you see anything out there today

from caddies that you wanna steal? So, two part. You cannot answer both or either. Well, I know the other reason you're asking these questions so you can talk about your your rain pants maneuver. No, but actually that's a great call. I have a different hack, but that's a great hack. Would you like to share it with the people? No, please. Well, you just you basically just wear boxers under your rain pants and that way you don't get hot steamy. You don't have to wear a second pair of pants, you know, if it's just rain now if it's cold

That might be a problem. This is ballet bunny. It wasn't cold It was just like 50 mile an hour winds. This was a literal hurricane that was on its way into town And yeah, we played the caching course This this video is Neil trying to hit a wedge 195 yards, I think on that one part three Dude, I don't like moves to steal. I guess playing in the rain in general just has to come with a true, like, I get lost when I'm in the middle, when I'm like, dude, it's kind of rainy.

Like is this a rain round or is it not? And if it's a full rain round, I can rain glove it and I can bump the ball around and do totally fine. When I get caught in the middle, that's the problem. And I just can't imagine playing at 7,500 yards though, in what they had today. Because you're not getting that ball to apex in that. I don't know about Abraham Answers move of putting the

beanie on underneath the hat, but I'm guessing that's a sponsor reason that that happened. Yeah, anything you got to do. I was also curious, A lot of guys weren't beanies out there. When those get soaked, I almost think you're you're going to get even colder. The one move I saw out there, the reason I asked the question, Deid was I saw Brooks's caddy. Is it that's Ricky? I believe he's been in the news. He had the towel tucked inside of a three polo, you know, his big plus a pullover.

And that's, that is the key. It's what, what is really demoralizing is when the towels get soaked. And then you're like, oh my God, like our, our walls have come down like, we're, we're totally flooded. You have no hope when you have no dry towels. That is, that's when it gets really bleak for me.

Oh, all right. Well, I think that's going to wrap our Saturday night rain delay show. Thank you to Scott Van Peltwright, Thompson, Iona Steven, High noon, Robac, AG1, Athletic Greens, Kevin Van Volgaberg, Neil Schuster, Cody McBride, DJ Pi Howski, all of the listeners, all of the commenters,

everyone involved with the show. Greatly appreciate it. Sunday night. And thank you, Sally. Thank commenters, everyone involved with the show. Greatly appreciate it. Sunday night. And thank you, Sally. Thank you for all you do for the game. Oh, wow. Thank you.

I really appreciate that. We will recap the 2023. Hopefully it ends tomorrow. It looks like we're probably good with weather for tomorrow. And we'll easily finish the Masters tomorrow night. But we'll leave you with this. Of course, Michael Irvin said, ma'am, when we played in that cold weather, we was cold.

We thank everyone for tuning in, and we'll see you back here for another live show on Sunday night, cheers. Cheers. Cheers.