No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 67: Peter Uihlein

Episode Date: February 27, 2017

Peter Uihlein joins the No Laying Up podcast to talk about being an American on the European Tour, culture shock around the world, and why he chooses to play so much of his golf so... The post NLU Podcast, Episode 67: Peter Uihlein appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most! Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up Podcast. I'm Chris Solomon, joined today by European tour member United States citizen Peter Uline. You are back in the U.S. right now. You were down in Australia playing the World 6 last week.

We're recording this now on Thursday. How long does it take you to get over Jetlag on a trip like that? Well, you know, thanks for the forum. Thanks for having me on. You know, I've been long time listening, so I'm excited to do this. But, well, the way I schedule is never. It's never easy coming back and forth from the state. So I got it from Australia, we got it and we got out early after missing the Saturday

cut, got home Sunday and I mean I'm back out leaving again Sunday, so to South Africa. So it takes, it takes typically, if I try to do it like right, like it probably takes one to two days, but this week i just i just give up hope and you come from from where it was i was in do by the lazy australia and i'm here and i'm going to africa and india so i mean this week's just kind of a wash week for me i'm going to bed at like six o'clock my my girlfriend's loving it

so what do you we have what are you do it i guess maybe that is a question what are you doing back in the state this week yeah it's a good question. I've got I mean, I'm I'm family here now and you know, I like coming home when I when I care and my friends Obviously, it's home to week so I can see some of my friends that are in town Obviously, my my girlfriends here and we have two dogs So I want to get home to see those and see them and hang out with them. So Yeah, but from

from a logistic standpoint, you know, if you're in Australia, you're not really thinking, hey, let's go to America, then then go to Africa. It's not exactly on the way. To be fair, Australia is not really close to anything. So that's not, it's never easy. What I was going to say is you didn't make the cut to the Saturday cut. Was the trip to Australia worth it for this new format at a event? Yeah, it is for me because I love that golf course. I like Karen yet. I think it's one of my favorites we play all year. So it's funny.

I like almost trying to base my schedule around that event. So for me to go down there, I never really find it to, it's never, it's never like, I never feel like it's like quantity to get down there. I like playing that place. It's a, it's a cool week. It's a good course. I wish I, I wish I got to watch. I mean, like I said, I was flying home, so I didn't get to see Sunday, but I saw that Rummy one and Rummy. I think he had like a five or six shot lead or something stupid. So I mean, it worked out. He should have won.

And it worked out that way. I don't know how it looked on TV or how guys were thinking. It was exciting to watch or what. I was trying to scroll online when I landed. I couldn't quite figure it out online on the app. It seemed, I guess guys kept playing. Like you had guys playing for like the fifth spot and the sixth spot I found that to be a little strange, but

It seemed to It the energy there seemed to be pretty cool like it seemed like everybody there was like pretty excited for it So that was at least cool to see so do you you live full-time? I guess tech I mean it's full-time's probably not the right way to say it, but you are a resident of Florida, right? That's where you that's where you call home. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm down in I'm down in Jupiter with just about every other golfer Do you have a place in Europe at all? I know it's got that maybe kind of a silly question because I've touched on this in the past that the European tour is really just European in name Like do you have a place over there at all or any any any other locations?

No, no, I just I come and go I travel back and forth. I rack up the air mile I know I come and go and the way the schedule is kind of set up this one the start of the year is always a little bit funny But you can basically do it, you know if you want to go play the desert swing You can go play three weeks in the desert and come home and then go play a couple in South Africa and come home. I always base my schedule based on where I like playing. It's a little bit more of a sacrifice going and skipping some events and going to Australia or whatnot. I have no base. They've added added, I mean, I'm probably

like, I get really excited about this and I talk about it a lot, but they've added a Fort Lauderdale Dubai flight. So for me, that's like heaven, you know, I can just drive right before Lauderdale flight to Dubai. And it's like, oh, yeah, 13 hour flight, that's fine. Like I'm totally cool with that. Yeah, so what, how long does a flight have to be before you dread it or at this point are you like can you handle any flight time? Yeah, I I like flying I think I enjoyed I like shutting the phone off and watching movies and shows and stuff like that. I don't mind it at all Yeah, I have no issues with that. So it's it's a topic. I'm sure you've covered many many times but for anyone that's listening that may not be as familiar with it What is can you you explain your reasoning for choosing to play European tours a full time?

I know not a lot of Americans do that, and you've been out there for several years now, and you seem to be really enjoying it. So in your own words, what is kind of your thought process in rationale behind that? Well, I think it was mostly when I was chatting to my dad. I was still at Oklahoma State. I was about a junior and I was still in still water. If anybody has ever been to still water, you're in a little bit of a bubble. You don't really know what's going on in the real world.

So I don't ever been to play the Eisenhower in Argentina and I played the open in St. George's. So that was the only time I'd ever ventured out really America really even. I've very rarely even really went out West. So I never really traveled. So for me like I was I'd always grown up liking like Ernie L's was always one of my favorite players and Scott. So it's like you know I look at those guys, they all started on the European tour basically. And so I guess that was kind of my mindset going out. It's like, you know, there's really no, I guess, different, you know,

just because I'm American doesn't mean I have to stay in America. And so I kind of wanted to just travel and see the world. And, you know, I've been able to do that. I've been to some crazy places and things. So for me, it's been just an unbelievable experience. And obviously, the main goal would have come back home for sure. But as of now, I'm really, really enjoying my time out there.

Yeah, I'm having a good time. And I definitely recommend it really for anybody who wants to kind of travel, play golf and be able to play golf. It's not the worst gig in the world for sure. Do you have an example of somewhere you were, somewhere you've been where there's like a local custom or part of a culture like really surprised you or you did something that was like really taboo that you had no idea was against the rules of any kind? Well, so my first, my first ever professional got event was in a Medabad, India.

And so my parents basically, when I turned pro, they basically got an invite on the challenge tour and they basically threw me on a plane and just said, hey, good luck. So I rocked up to India. And if anybody's ever been to India, they kind of know where I'm getting at with. That might be the, the I mean just the most Unre... like it's just the most crazy unreal country. I think I've ever seen in my life

It's just so it's so it's so up down, you know It's like the rich are just so rich and and you know the lower class of just so light. It's just it's unreal And so I got off this plane and you know You just the sights that you see in the in the just everything you see and then there was I remember going to the we're probably about two hours out from the golf course and I didn't realize at the time like cows are sacred there like you can't you can't touch a cow like if you touch a cow you're going to prison. So like they have this cow was just crossing the street and there was a huge pile

up huge back up and the accidents everywhere and like when this cow was just crossing the street and was just chilling just minding its own business and the back up was just forever. I mean it felt like it took like six hours to get the course because you just couldn't move. You couldn't you know these cows you can't touch them like they are sacred animals. So whenever you're in India don't ever order state because I think I'll be able to donate a croquet but hey yeah but I think that was kind of like I mean that was such an eye-opener coming from still water Oklahoma to a metapod India it's like wow this is wow this is great long way from home the culture shock of culture shock places I think

might be Indian that's what I think people maybe Don't have a full appreciation for like when you guys travel and you go somewhere I think people kind of every picture everything is private jets and you land and you know You get helicopter to the first tea But no you probably see some things along the way. I had I had Chris Would on last week who's talking about you know taking ten hour flights and landing then two hour trains to get to wherever you need to go. The places aren't necessarily right near the airport. I guess that's a question. Do you feel like you get a good sense of a country and what it's like in the time you get

to spend there or once you've landed it in a place, do you feel like it's all business? Yeah, it depends. It depends where you go. I think there are some places where we call it a prison week, so you don't really venture out. It's kind of the same thing, kind of groundhog day every day. But there are other places where you go and you stay in the cities and you get to see exactly what that country has to offer. Hong Kong will you stay in the cities and you get to see exactly what that country kind of has to offer like you know like Hong Kong will go stay in the city or Prague. Prague we're staying in the city you know Munich, Stanton city. So you know there's some places that you go where you get to actually experience what the country and the culture is all about and I mean if I was you know I think that And I mean, if I was, you know,

I think that if you want to, if I was running the tour, that's like one thing I would, I would have just a few things I'd try to change. But that would be one thing. It's like, hey, you know, really show everybody what these countries have to offer, you know, and I think that would just be, that would just make it a little bit more,

kind of more exciting and more enticing for players to show up. Instead of going and playing two and a half hours outside Shanghai, it's like, let's go to play somewhere that's close to Shanghai so you can stay in the city and see it and check it out. But if you're staying so far away from doing something, it makes it a little bit longer of a week and makes it a little bit tougher. In Prague have you ever been to the bar called Ufleku?

I'm not actually. Okay, all right, that's what I'm gonna do. That's what I'm gonna do. That's what I'm gonna do the next time you're in the city. It's like one of my top European recommendations and anybody listening to that in Prague, it's fantastic. But, all right, you brought up the topic about a lot of things you'd change about the European tour.

There is a lot of shift currently ongoing. I feel like Keith Pelley seems to be the initiator of a lot of things you change about the European tour. There is a lot of shift currently on going. I feel like Keith Pelley seems to be the initiator of a lot of format changes. You just played an event that's a brand new format. What do you think about the changes that are being made? Do you think it's kind of a proper shift towards the way golf will be like in the future? And what else would you change about it

if you were in charge? Yeah, I think, I give all the credit in the world to Pelley. I think he's trying, which is what you need to do. I feel like he's at least saying and trying to do the right things to make it unique because at the end of the day, you're not going to compete with the PGA tour. I mean, you can't. I've heard they've added like a $12 million event in Korea or something. So you can't compete with them from a money standpoint. But you can do something unique that would engage

or entice players to play. And I think he's trying. He obviously tried the Super 6 down in part, and I've heard rumors that might be the same thing for Sweden or Germany or the BMW in Germany. There heard rumors that might be the same thing for Sweden or Germany or the BMW in Germany. There might be that might happen. I almost feel like we're like two years away from a putting competition tournament.

He's trying something unique. He's trying something different. I mean, I love the PGA Tour did with the team event. I think that's awesome. I don't know what event it is, but I've heard they've added a team event for players to play in. Something like that, I think would be really cool for the tour, but yeah, it's tough,

because at the end of the day, you're not gonna knock off the PGA tour, but you can be unique and be different. And because, I mean, it is a global tour. It's not the European tour. So, you know, it has that opportunity to be enticing and engaging and, you know, very exciting for people to go out and watch and, you know, different formats,

trying things like that. I mean, that's all good and fun. I think, you know, it's an experiment, isn't it? So, you've got to kind of see what works and see what kicks and see what takes off and then go from there. Yeah, I think at minimum at least trying these things like you said is the first step. And if it works, it works, keep going for it.

I like the fact that they're there. I feel like what there's a shift going on, going to be going on it was well in the PGA tour with Jay Monhand taking over and that they're going to be embracing some of these new, they've already done it once with the Zurich. Like you said, the team event. Yeah, sure. I'm sure there's going to be embracing some of these new, they've already done it once with the Zurich, like you said, the team event. Yeah. I'm sure there's going to be more changes down the way. I think that you can do so much more, but like, even with like two days and Wednesdays,

like why not a couple times a year do some kind of skills challenge on Wednesday afternoon from the range, televised that and kind of draw up a little bit of interest in some things that are other than, you know, just four rounds of stroke play. But, um, you, so you've been out in the Euro tour, I think this is your fifth year playing in Europe. I think we've talked at length about how on the PGA tour, the the era of guys kind of, I don't want to say socializing, but like the party era has kind of long sense left the PGA tour.

The European tour, at least like from what we can see on camera, even seems to just be more fun in general. So you mentioned kind of some of these really exotic places you guys go or the prison weeks where you guys don't have much to do. What's the social aspect like on the European tour? Well, it's one of the things I think Woody mentioned, he had the nail in the head, you're taking flights and then you're taking two, three hour bus rides and you're doing all that together. That's what makes it unique. Whereas PJ Tore guys might be flying whatever private jet back home and staying at whatever

hotel. It seems like guys might be different places. Whereas European Tore, there's not so many places you can stay and then everybody kind of stays at the same hotel and take the same flights. So, you know, the louches and the and some of those like charter flights at the end of the year, I mean they get a little bit, they get a little bit rowdy and, you know, but it is, I think when you're spending that much time with each other, you kind of just kind of, you know, it's like, it's like, I guess it's like a rider cup feel all just kind of you know, it's like it's like it's like what I guess

It's like a rider cup feel all the time, you know You're always interacting and engaging with With everybody and and seeing them in the airports and you know seeing them and at the hotels everybody's at the same gym Basically everybody's at the same brush drum. So you're kind of always you're always around each other You know, I guess in a weird way, you know, you're pulling for each other. It seems like everybody's very nice and very supportive of what what guys do. And, you know, and it's, I mean, it's impressive to see.

It's really, it really surprised me to be building on. So I wasn't expecting it when I first came out. So for me, it was like, it was awesome. They really, really took to me. And like a lot of guys have been really good to me. So, you know, I've, I've absolutely loved it. I think that answers the next one. It was awesome. They really took to me. A lot of guys have been really good to me. I've absolutely loved it. I think that answers the next one I was going to say,

is do you ever feel a bit like an outsider just being one of the few Americans on that circuit? Because I mean, it's mostly made up of European players, but there are, of course, players from Asia and Africa as well. But is it really kind of a thing that the borders are broken down and it's not clicky? And it's a really just kind of welcoming social environment you'd say? Yeah, I think so. It's funny because it's the same anywhere. It would be off the dendr and somebody might say something about America and I'll be like, hey guys, I'm not really, but I appreciate it.

So, for me, it's like, I've been lucky that I've kind of seen it from both ends of the spectrum now. Like I said, they've taken to me, and they've both said, everybody's been really good to me. So for me to be kind of, I guess they would, most guys say I'm not a typical yank is what they call me. So for me, it's like, I guess that's a really nice compliment.

So like I said, they've all been very good to me. So it's been nice. Being outside the US so much and considering all the major political shift going on in the US, has your, I'm not going to get too political with this question, no worry, but, uh, has your perception of the US overall change from your experience after being in so many other countries? Yeah, I tell you what, um, just the one thing I'll say on this topic is people don't realize

that people don't realize how good they have it. Yep. Sometimes. You know, like I said, like, I add India and the schedule every year just because it's just such a humble part of that. It's just you go there, you just count your blessings. I mean, you just appreciate everything you have. And so it's like, it's just going there.

It's just you come home and you're like, wow, it's like I really can't complain about anything. So you know so for me it's like you know I hit you know you see all these things on you know everybody every four years it seems like everybody's a political major and you know they have every they have every idea in the book on what to do so but for me it's like man you should you know you just just go out and just go see, just go see what it's actually like firsthand and then And then you know, and then you can actually kind of comment on it, but Yeah, it's Tell you why you've seen something you see some things traveling the world. Let's for sure

Yeah, I think I forget where I was there was some some protests going on in the US I'm not saying that people don't have the right to protest and then whatnot, but I think I was in Nigeria when it happened and It was just kind of like wow if the people here saw what we were protesting over. I think that That's a little upset So who are some of the who are some of the main guys you run around with? Do you ever? Are you ever scheduling travel with someone so you have somebody to travel with or staying

with somebody on the road? No, because nobody, I'm trying to, like, guys that maybe live in Florida, that play like Peter Hanson, Trevor Remmelman, but the, I mean, those guys, no, but they're out of Orlando, so I don't really, but for like my friend standpoint, like David Lipski, who's an American, but you know out of Orlando so I don't really, but for like my friend standpoint like I'll David Lipski who's an American but you know he's Asian and then there's I spent

a lot like Thomas Peters Danny Willett, Fitsy, Lucas Lucas Lucas Baragard I mean those guys are guys that you know I spend probably my most most of my time with and get along with the best so you know, I mean, Lipsky and Lucas and Thomas are, you know, will, you know, all those guys are all good friends. We chat a bunch and we were, if we're playing the same events, you know, try, you know, get a practice round together or whatnot. So, yeah, there's been, like, it seems to be like the PJ tour. It seems to be a nice young influx of, you know, or, or, or, they're a good influx of young players. And, you know, everybody kind of seems to get along and

spend time together. And, you know, so it's, it's, it's fun to see. Is there a guy out there that is probably flying under the radar as far as American fans are concerned? I don't, I don't know if Danny Willett would have been an example of that at this time last year. I mean, he was ranked top 15 or so in the world when he won the Masters. But is there a guy that's like, oh, these guys, in the States, they don't know about this guy yet, but he is going to be an absolute stud. Yeah, it's funny. This time last year, I would have said Thomas Peters, when he obviously took off. But I know I've mentioned him you know because I play a lot

with it but that Danish kid Lucas Baragard is really impressive he's he's very very good and I think once he kind of figures it out you know he's he absolutely bombs it and he's got nice short game he's a good potter but I think once he kind of figures it out and puts it all together like he's going to be he's going to be very impressive. And there's a few guys like that. There's a French kid Sebastian Gross, nobody really knows. Another kid who absolutely eats the crap out of it.

Same kind of style, like he's a young-ish player. He'll kind of once he kind of figures it out, he'll be a top French boy. Then you got the guys like, Whisperer, who's done it, you know, he was in the final group of a major, and you know, Sluton, who's been around a long time, I think those two guys are very, very good, very kind of underappreciated and very, very underrated. So I think those guys here could be next step kind of guys. This is the million dollar question that I'm sure you've never been asked before.

But how long have you been? I'm going to say, you have anything to do with the title? No, no, actually, I was going to avoid that one. I was completely, I figured it was, you could probably guess it still, by process of elimination. How long do you plan to peg it out on the European tour? Do you have a transition plan to maybe play the PGA tour full time at some point? Maybe go to web.com route or you're just going to soak up this European tour life for as long as you can.

Yeah, it's tough now that I've been playing out there and I've seen it. It'd be tough for me to maybe play the web over the European tour. I don't know if I would, whatever, you know, I mean, obviously I don't know what the future holds, but it'd be tough for me to do that now. And I think with my surgery last year, kind of missed all year, I didn't really do much. And I feel like I'm just kind of taking, I feel like I've been able to start over this year.

So it's kind of like I feel like this year is almost my birthday year again. So I'm kind of just kind of taking it as it goes and letting, you know, just kind of seeing where the cards fall on. You know, the old saying is you, saying is you playing well takes care of everything. So if you play well, it doesn't really, it's not like there's, you can base a schedule but if you start playing better, your schedule changes. It's kind of hard to decide or hard to determine what exactly is going to, I guess, what the

future holds because if you start playing well and start winning and, you know, start contending then all of a sudden schedule changes and then, you know, it becomes, it becomes different from there. So, there's really no time table for me at all. I'm still pretty young, so I'm not really too worried about it. Yeah, especially hearing how you describe how much you've enjoyed your travels the places you've been and whatnot I can't imagine it's an easy transition to going to like Boise and to go into some of the stops are on the web tour and what to be fair at probably I've never been to those places That might be more culture shock there

You won the you won the 2010 USAM at Chambers Bay. At what point did it become like a legal requirement for whenever you were mentioned at any point that you had to be called US Amateur Champ, Peter Euline or Peter Euline, US Amateur Champ. So I'm playing and do buy this year and I get paired with Richie Ramsey, former amateur champion, Curtis Luck. And they made it their mission, I mean, completely random pairing, right? Random crawl.

And so they made it, you know, you stand in the T-vox and you hear like groups in front, you know, you hear Henry extension, the open winner, you know, if sir or whatever, you know, you hear all these guys, Tiger, I mean, Tiger was there you hear what you know 14 time maybe winner whatever and all of a sudden it's just like yeah you know they have a three group of us amateur winners and you're like oh this is a bit weird you know this would happen so long ago you know it's amateur golf it's totally different than professional golf so but I mean I'm obviously I mean I love I mean I think you know it's such

a it's such a cool thing and you know Jack I mean I think'm obviously, I mean, I love, I think, you know, it's such a, it's such a cool thing. And, you know, Jack, I mean, I think I remember seeing Jack Nicholas thinks that the amateur was a major win. So, you know, he, he counts it as one. So, I think, yeah, I mean, it's obviously something I'll, you know, I'll have to be forever. So I'm not, not overly disappointed in it. That's for sure. Were you, were you prepared for what that, the extra pressure that came with carrying that title? I guess first did you feel like extra pressure was put on you after you won that event?

And if so, how well prepared for it were you? No, I... I've been... I guess I've always been in a weird situation because of who my dad is. So I guess to me that was always a little bit, I almost feel like the Amner thing kind of was overshadowed by just kind of the fact of who my dad is kind of thing. So for me it's never, I guess kind of like, you know, the accolades and whatnot or all kind of just perks, you know, I guess whatever pressure you kind of,

I always feel it's always self-induced. You never really. I think if you're trying to kind of live up or recreate a situation, it's never really gonna, and it's tough, you know, from, I guess from a mental standpoint. You know, if you're putting so much pressure, like I remember putting a lot of pressure on myself to win the Ambitr next year, and I almost felt like what I didn't win, I was

like a failure. But at the same time, it's like, well, you know, why would I put all this amount of pressure on myself to keep performing or do well when it's in reality? It's like, hey, you know, it's like you're a pretty good golfer. Like you can just go out and care for your, you've already done it. Like, you know, just relax, have fun. And it's like, I feel like, you know, I definitely got, you know, get caught up in that, you've already done it. Just relax, have fun. I definitely got caught up in that. For example, as being a pro, I've been a rookie year, I had a good year, one, one, and a couple

runner-ups, and all of a sudden, the next year, I played well here, and I didn't play well here this year. That's like, oh, I'm a meaty,'ll worse golf and that was the year before. And it's like, well, no, it's not necessary to the case. So I think that kind of process of just kind of growing and understanding and, you know, I guess getting better in a way mentally that, hey, you know, it's just, you know, whatever happens the year before isn't necessarily making you a better, you know, a better or a worse person or a worse player.

So I think I've been lucky with kind of my growing up, you know, with who my dad is, and then having success as an amateur. And, you know, I think it's kind of helped me as a pro understand, you know, the ups and downs of the game and the ups and flows of it. So, thank you. Your amateur win was at Chambers Bay. What did you think of the golf course then? And how did you think about how it played out?

I don't know how much of you got to watch in 2015 of the US Open. What did you think of that course? And did you think it was worthy of hosting a major championship? That's, see, I'm probably, I think me and George behind the only guys that I do it. We like like really only guys that are partial towards this question. So, I think, you know, I, so that was not a party.

So the later in the year, it was okay, because then the bent grass had a chance to grow. I think when it's hosted in June, you know, you have, I guess you're wintering in your spring in Washington, you're not, it's not a lot of sun, not a lot of good weather, is it? So the Poe is going to take over. So you know, they at least have, basically, a full summer. I remember still wearing sweaters and rain pants in August, but at least they had a summer to where the grass on the greens can grow.

Having it in June, obviously, they didn't have that chance, and the Poe took over. And I think that's kind of, it's a little unfortunate, that that's kind of the storyline. You think of, when somebody mentions chambered bay, you know, the first thing I think of was the Greens. And, you know, obviously a lot of people talked about it out. You know, there was a lot of complaints and a lot of, you know, controversy around the Greens being the way they were. But I guess they made some changes for it.

For the US Open, that it was the US Amateur. The USG is, I mean, give credit to them. They're pretty smart. They use the Amateurs as guinea pigs. So, you know, it's the same with Aaron Hill's. We played Aaron Hill's the year after. So, you know, it's kind of like, you know, they're using the Amateur event as, you know, kind of a stepping stone for US Open's. And I mean, fair play to him it's smart. You as a result of winning that you got paired with the defending masters champion at the 2011 masters which was of course Phil Mickelson. How talkative is he during a major championship? Uh so I got to play with them the Wednesday you know the day before I got to play with them Wednesday

I play with Fowler and couples and Phil. Just to kind of, we played Ninalls, just to kind of get the excitement out of the way of playing with Phil and just kind of seeing what he does. So that was fun. But then when the gun went off, it was obviously all business form. One of the things that I found just the most fascinating thing on the planet, well two things I guess, I guess, Phil's story. I mean, he hit a ball so far left on 13, and you know, he walks up there, finds it, you know, hits this, I don't know, full

wedge or full nine iron out back in play, then hits a, I think, six or five iron on the green, makes birdie. And I'm just like, you know, I'm just hitting in the fairway, you know, doing whatever. And he's just, I mean, he's all all over the show and he's this is where on 17 he's walking off and he's talking to bones and he said something you know he's just like you know bones it's it's hard to score when you can't make a putt and I overheard it I'm thinking I'm like Michael I think he's hit like four fairways in two days. But that's just the way he is. And it was just to watch that up close, watch it live and watch just how it's just water off a duck's back

when he hits a bad shot. It's just awesome. Like it's just so cool to see. And our third member of that group was OlgaVey who was runner up that year. So you had just basically OlgaVey, it was just StripeShop. And then you had just basically, the oldbie, it was just a striped shop. And then you had Phil just doing what Phil does. And it was just, it was awesome to see up close in person

and just see some of the shots he hit. And he had a couple of his patten and flops. The greens were soft that year. They had a little bit of rain, so I mean, he had some flopshots that were just incredible. So, it was cool to sing. I'm trying to picture where you even can go left off 13. So he was up in the bushes.

He was up in the bushes. Oh, yeah. I just vividly remember him just like, it looked like he was just climbing a mountain to get up to where this ball was. And he gets it back and play. He hits it on the green mixed bird. I'm just standing there. I think I hit like three or four iron into the creek and make bogey and I'm like, what the hell.

And so it just was, it was awesome. You shot 72 and round one, 77, round two. How much do you think back on that experience? I mean, was that you've had so much happen in your golf career? The master's really stick out to you as kind of, that's the only time you've played in Augusta, is that correct? The only time you've played in the master's, right? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's something like, you want to get back.

I mean, once you do it, you want to keep going back. You know, you want to, I think that's what, you know, I mean, obviously, the ultimate dream is to win it, so you can always go back. So, I think that's kind of, you know, but seeing it, I just love to see it, I would just love to see it, like, kind of playing different every, in a weird, like, just different every year. It's like, you know, I only saw two whole locations, whereas, you know, you watch on TV, you see the whole location front on 13, you know, it's like, I'd love to play that pen, or, you know,

you see it, you know, top shelf on six or something, so it's like, man, you, you, you, you want to get back to go just to see these things and see them up close and see them in person to play it again. I think that's kind of the main, you know, once you do it, it's, you just want to take a drug, I guess. I was, I was, are you, are you a golf nut? It sounds like you're a golf nut. I would say golf is about third or fourth on my, on my spectrum of sports to be blatantly honest with you. I mean, today was a big day for me.

It's the trade deadline for the NBA. I mean, this was, I'm a Celtic sales fan. So yeah, I'm a Celtic socks, pads fan. So I was a little bit on edge today and seeing what they were going to do. So yeah, I put golf, I mean, I love golf, everybody. You know, if you do it for a living, you have to love it. So yeah, I put golf, I mean, like I mean, I love golf, everybody, you know, if you do it for a living, you have to love it. So, well, that's a good, that's, that's, I kind of want to ask that because I feel like that's not necessarily the case. You get to a certain

point where, where when it is your profession, it's, it's a question I like to ask is do you feel like you still love golf as much as you did as your kid or do you lose a bit of the love for it when it becomes your job and your occupation? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, I can honestly say I truly do love it, but there's times when I'm like, I remember being in my Germany or something and I'm like, dead last and I just want to get home and I'm not loving golf at all. Like, you know, it's other times like you just, you don't love it, you know, for sure,

but, you know, they're, but I think like I see, you know, it's like, it's, it's like I say earlier. I mean, there's just, I mean, it's just such a, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's just the sit back and just think sometimes like, hey, I'd do this for a living. Like, come on, there's a lot of other things that people are doing that are and would love to be in my shoes. So you don't really, like I said, you don't complain very often when you realize, hey, this is your profession, and this is what you get to do.

And you know, I would say I truly love golf. I mean, I probably, my favorite sport, probably, people are going to answer it's baseball. I love it. And I think I probably, my favorite sport, probably, we play an honest baseball. I love it. And I think I'm absolutely addicted to it. And I would love, if I ever have kids one day, I would definitely make try and force them to play baseball. But yeah, golf's a close second.

Are you do watch a lot of golf when you're not playing then? I watch, yeah, I do. I guess I think I remember, you know, Rory said something. I guess the cool thing to say is not to say I watch golf, but yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean I watch golf. I mean, yeah, I mean, it's, you know, if there's like Sunday afternoon and like the Patriots on, maybe not, or the Sox around, but, you know, I'll flip back Sunday afternoon and like the Patriots are on, maybe not, or the Sox are on, but you know, I'll flip back and forth, but I like watching because I like, I don't really get to watch it very often, so when I'm home, I like to watch it, and I like listening to the, to the different personalities the, you know, the CBS broadcasts have, I think, you know, I see, I see a lot lot of people are you baiting me into this?

Yeah, a little bit. I see a lot of people, you know, you know, vent about certain characters, but for me, I'm like, you know, like I don't get to listen to them very often. So I'm like, I like listening to these guys. Oh, man, you're testing me right now. You're testing. Especially, you know, I especially like the after show you know when

a couple guys are sitting talking about players you know we might know if you guys I'm talking about. I think so. I think so. Oh so you caught me off guard with that. I think we're going to go down that avenue. I crowdsourced a couple questions... the other no-ling up guys they seem to want to they want to focus on oklam state and you brought up still water uh... just how there seems to be kind of a high level of camaraderie amongst amongst the cowboys on tour did you were uh... were you encouraged at all to go to oklam state based on who you knew you would

be playing with or was that kind of a a bond that was developed once you were actually there A little bit of both funny enough. I remember I remember playing the age AGA Thunderbird and Ricky had just I guess I could say talk about this now I remember that thing. I remember thinking like Ricky just committed to UCLA And I remember you know, I don't know if you like, how much I should share it, but I remember thinking like,

I think he had some girlfriend at the time, and he was like, wanted to kind of be close to her, and I just was like, dude, I couldn't really tell him at the time like, you know, I knew at this point, like I was gonna go, I mean, I grew up in Oklahoma State and I was gonna go there. I wanted, I grew up a huge Duke basketball fan. So my dad, I asked my dad, I was like,

hey, what's the equivalent of Duke for golf? And he's just like, oh, it's Oklahoma State. And I was like, all right, well, I'm gonna go there. Now, I'm like 10 years old. So I had, I'd always kind of known I was gonna go to Oklahoma State. And I remember really trying to like convince Ricky and be like, hey man, I'd love to go.

I would always you, you want to go, it and be like, hey man, you know, like, I'd love to go. I would always you like, you know, if you want to go, like it'd be cool. You know, it's like we can go together kind of thing. And I knew Kevin Tway was going to go there obviously. And he was a dad. And we were playing this, we were playing, I forget what event it is. In South Carolina, I think it was me, Tway, and Rick, and I had committed to this point. We're playing a fraction of the course

intentionally pair up with Morgan Hoffman. So I think, I remember him asking me after the round. And he goes, so what do I do to commit? And I'm like, what? He's like, I was like, yeah, I'm going to come. I want to come to school with you guys. I'm like, I'm pretty sure you just call Coach and tell him what you're doing.

So I think it was all kind of built up together. You know, we all kind of knew we wanted to play together and be together and, you know, funny enough, we all now live in South Florida together. So, you know, we all still see each other. We're all still really close. We all spend a lot time and hanging out together. So it was definitely bond that I guess started the four college that's cool yeah I thought that I at least heard some remnants of that but that's I didn't realize the extent of it I guess but they also wanted me to ask you about t-boon pickings and do you have a relationship with him or

do you have do you know anything about t-boon pickings I Yeah, I know yeah, I'm yeah, something that really Yeah, I play I'm playing the promo cowboy program with them. Yeah, I mean obviously it's I Mean he's got stupid money, you know, let's be honest. I think I forget what the check was. He wrote for the athletic department like 500 million or something like that. I'm not gonna get his name on the stadium. That's us. That's how you get a know But the best part was like I'm pretty sure this was true I think the academic department got so pissed off that he gave so much money to the Athletic Department. He just wrote them a check for like 300. Yeah So it's like

Yeah, you're a legend I think when you when you come out with a book that says the more. So it's like, dude, you're a legend. I think when you come out with a book that says the first billion is the hardest, like you know, you've done something right. You know? It's relatable to a lot of people. Yeah.

I don't know how many people take up that book. And it was just like, yeah, you know, I know what that feels like. First billion, it's tough. You more and I'll let you get out of here. Yeah. What's, who Few more, and I'll let you get out of here. Yeah. What's, who's an underrated person? Either tour could be PGA, European, whatever.

Underrated guy to grab a beer with. Ooh. Probably, if you want to hear good stories, probably David Howell. I mean, David Howell has got, he's got tremendous stories stories and he tells this one story about Augusta. I think he's leading after two rounds, but he basically says, I'm hitting like a dog. And so he asks an agent, I think he asks Chubby at the time, hey, can you go and find me a golf course to play?

Like, I'm hitting it awful. He's leading the master's. Let's be, David is notorious. I mean, the dude's the best putter on the planet. So Chubby sets him up. I think it's Chubby. He sets him up at this local course right down the road. And so he's playing.

And he's hitting a couple balls off each hole. And just trying to figure something out for the weekend. I guess he's standing there and sharing a tee box with another group and he's teeing off one way and the other group's going the other way and he's waiting for these guys to tee off and they're like, no, no, no, go on ahead. He hits a ball, he hits three, two, three, drive, drive to whatever and some guy like from the group is just like, man, you're pretty good at this. What are you a six? You know, you hear this, you hear him tell this story and he's just, and you just know you're like, I mean, if that was me, I just feel like, dude, I'm leading the masters. Like, yeah, what are you talking about? masters like, yeah, what are you talking about? Yeah, but, yeah, I think from the story standpoint, I mean, Haller's one of the, I mean,

he's one of the best, you know, and Jamie Donaldson's, Jamie Donaldson's a lot like, if you want to have a good time like Jamie Donaldson's one of the, he's definitely one of the, the more engaging characters, I was for sure. Well, did you ever see the clip that in the morning after they won the writer cup and he was getting interviewed on golf channel? Yeah, he's just like an absolute friend. Yeah, that's, yeah, I would say he's, if you want, if you're looking for a good night out, I think JD's a man. All right, well I'll let you out of here on that one because that was a good story to close it with. But Peter, thank you for your time, man. Best of luck with the rest of the season and all the crazy travels you got ahead of you will definitely be following along.

I appreciate Chris, thanks for having me. You got a man anytime, cheers. of the season and all the crazy travels you got ahead of you will definitely be following along. I appreciate Chris, thanks for having me. You got it man anytime, cheers. Let's get it right club. See the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. How about in?

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