No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 670: Heritage Recap

Episode Date: April 17, 2023

Matt Fitzpatrick wins at Hilton Head in a playoff over Jordan Spieth to claim the RBC Heritage. We recap a busy week at Harbour Town including Spieth's close call, the slow play controversy surroundin...g Patrick Cantlay, the tournament's profile and designated event status, Rory's absence and a ton more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up live show presented as always by our friends at high noon. What a week end of golf. It was Sully here.
Starting point is 00:00:38 T.C. is here. I know you got the tequila because I dropped it off at your house just a few minutes ago. What up T.C. Gentlemen. God, I'm excited. What a day of golf. The designated events. What'd you call us? The Edgar Martinez of designated events? Yeah, just delivered, man. I mean, runs bad it in out the ass. Neil Schuster is here as well. What up, Neil? I got to match TC's energy. Happy to be here. I was trying to think of some other D. H.s that I could, uh, could throw with you, but I'm striking out. The D. H. is everywhere now.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Now I've, that everyone's got the D. H. It's not, uh, it's not nearly as special of a position as it once was. You have to decide like, can I tack on a few more years if I go over to the AL and it only it's, it's been ruined. But of course, the no-way up live show is brought to by our friends at high noon. It is here. The new high noon to Kila Selter made with real blanco to Kila and real juice. I've said this before, strawberries, my favorite, but I only saved the strawberries for the best moments for the best shows. Tonight's deserved it. What a freaking series of events in the golf tournament.
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Starting point is 00:02:20 go. Uh, first of all, that's enough. That's enough. And, you know, real juice. If you know what I mean, big week for the Vision Fund, I told you, Speed was back. I told you you didn't believe me. Told you it was back. Can't believe those two putts didn't didn't fall in the playoff. Hats off to Fitz, never doubted him. That was a nobrainer. My guy DJ also in on the fun this week as well. I just want to thank all the analysts on my team
Starting point is 00:02:49 that made this possible. And you know what, shout out to Fleetwood too. Don't do this. What? Let's not do this. Let's not. You should be thankful that the internal slack is not published because a couple of days ago,
Starting point is 00:03:01 you said Fleetwood was going to win this thing. And it just got ignored now at this point. I don't even think anybody responds to it anymore. But around the rest of the golf road, of course, Maddie Fitzwinds the RBC heritage and a playoff Grace Kim, one in a playoff at the low-tay championship Spencer Levine, one on the corn fairy tour. T.C., I know you're going to have a lot to say about that. In regulation, not in a playoff in regulation. Dropping bones all over the corn fairy tour. If you happen to have missed what happened at the RBC Heritage, it was a, it was a fascinating
Starting point is 00:03:31 trio in the final group of Jordan, Speed, Patrick, Cantlay and Matthew Fitzpatrick. Speed was about as clinical as I've seen him. It kind of felt a little weird. I was less invested in his round because it was not up and down at all. It was just like seed, seed, seed, seed, seed, playing golf the way it should be, which, yeah, I didn't feel the same emotional tie to it, but at an awesome front nine and then hooked it in the water on 10, I was like, okay, here we go, but flipped it right back around and made par after going in the water off the
Starting point is 00:04:00 tee. He stuffed it in there really tight on on 13 while can't lay had to chip, you know, from the front part of the green and made bogey. The 14th hole was just fantastic. The par three watching can't lay chip it up on the woodworking. We'll get to that. Speed made bogey, but then Jordan stuffs a wedge on 15 makes birdie. But fits gets up and down from greenside makes a birdie then fits gets up stuffs one into 16 to tie the lead. It's another great shot into 17, but misses the putt. They go into a playoff. Speed has a 12 footer
Starting point is 00:04:28 to win. It's somehow misses. Speed hits it to 10 feet on 17 after it's fits hit another good shot in there, but miss the putt. Speed, again, barely misses on the low side and then fits stuff's up in yada to five inches on 18 and wins the RBC heritage. What a freaking sequence of events. That was high level golf. I mean, all day, they played well. You were pretty down on speed after he laid up on nine after a trailer. I was down on trailer on nine. Okay. I speed wanted to go for a trailer, talked him into and he hit it behind a tree. I said, this guy is, he's a, he's feral. You don't try to turn him into a house cat. Somebody replied on Twitter and said, if you bring him in the house, he will shit on the rug. That's exactly how I
Starting point is 00:05:10 felt when Greller made, like I knew when Greller made speed lay up there. Be careful. We're reporting the finger here. I'll point it squarely at our guy Michael Greller on that one. I want to talk speed, but I also want to give fits and love here. He was quickly becoming the forgotten man there on the front nine. And, you know, even after the US Open win, I feel like I maybe subconsciously rule him out. I'm like, he's not going to get it done. Like he doesn't seem to make those big putts.
Starting point is 00:05:36 He strikes the shit out of the ball. And then he just kept at it. And I think he wore them all down. War speed down in the playoff. He just kept, you know, putting himself in a good position, maybe not the best position, and then he capitalized at the end, hitting one of the best call shots of the year
Starting point is 00:05:51 on the third playoff hole. So he's kinda answered the question in my head of like, oh, Fitz is always gonna be around. Even in that US Open, I felt like, oh, he's not gonna win this thing. And then now that's twice, he's done it. So shame on me. Oomew once. You're going to fool me again, right?
Starting point is 00:06:08 So that's what the phrase is. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it says plenty of dog in him. I think it's intense. But yes, I was impressed with him closing the door today, which, and I think Jordan left it a jar form. I was going to say, let's, let's address like, I mean, Fitz made a big leap last year, obviously, not just winning the US open, but just as overall play was freaking stellar all year. And he opened the year poorly. I mean, it has not been a good start to the year for fits. He missed the cut at Pebble Beach. He missed the cut at the Genesis. Right. He was, was he a little shaken? I think he had a neck injury of some sort. Yeah. But then missed the cut. The players missed the cut at the Valspar.
Starting point is 00:06:46 These were not tournaments that were very long ago, right? So this was kind of, come on rather quickly. He had T10 at the Masters last week and then comes out. And he has said, he said on our podcast like five years ago that this is favorite event in the world. And then if you could pick one event to win in his entire career, it would be this one or something like he's going to retire. I think he said something like outside of a major like he said like he can retire happy. Yes. If you wins this event,
Starting point is 00:07:07 this is, this has always been his favorite event. And he and Randy hanging out of spice bush, man, just, you know, sounds like the family had a time share down in the Hilton head, just like the big fella. It's, it's, that's good stuff. We 12. I also want to call out fits to just from almost a career arc standpoint. There's a lot of guys that have come on tour, speed being the perfect example and just make a massive splash. They get right to work, they go within a million times and it's all we talk about. And I have a lot of respect for a guy like Fitz that has been a slow burn and just every year slowly but surely gotten better and better.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And you know, now he's, I don't know if he's technically a top-tem player in the world, but I start to think about him week in, week out. And I just think there's something to that, kind of getting rich slowly. And I appreciate that career arc, even though it's not as, sometimes it's not as exciting to talk about.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I'll say this though, the difference is, it's well documented, well covered as far as what he's picked up in distance, four miles an hour, a club head speed is not a small amount of clubhead speed. And he was always the guy that would give you a solo fifth finish. He would have plenty of really good finishes, but what you're seeing is the accumulation of being 10, 15, 20 yards farther down the fairway, add up over the course of 72 holes. Like that's the reason why he was so close so many times and not be able to get it done. It's like, dude, it's just really hard to put yourself behind a ROM and a Sheffler and all these guys that are way down the fairway on repeat and outplay them from there. It's just really hard to do now that he has closed that gap or even surpassed a lot of the other guys out there. It adds up at the end of 72 holes into, you know, now two enormous wins. I mean, those are, you know, we're kind of waiting for them
Starting point is 00:08:46 to clip off some kind of PGA tour event. Now he goes and wins a designated event and a major. Like those are, those are two enormous leaps. Good question in the chat. War career majors, fits or Lowry or tie. I would say fits for sure. Yeah, I think it fits like, you know, I feel like Lowry had a really, really hot run there, but he's a, you know, I feel like Loury had a really, really
Starting point is 00:09:05 hot run there, but he's a, you know, I feel like he's older and I never, to be honest, I never really saw Loury as a major winner to begin with. So I would say fits feels like a higher pedigree to me. And as I said earlier, feels like his career is trending that direction. It's getting better and better year over year. Also pushed back a little bit on the slow burn stuff. He had some big big wins on the European tour. Yeah, but he couldn't get it done over here. And over on that tour, he had those wins, right?
Starting point is 00:09:32 You know, like sure. Yeah, he got two, two DP world tour championships, two masters over there, the Omega European masters. And actually, you know what, he's what, he's won the Masters five times. Got five green jackets. British Masters, nor Day Masters, two Omega Masters, and the Australia Dam, and the Lucia Masters at Valderama. And it's so.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Speats first 27 major championships that he played in. He had one top 10, and that was a T7 at the 2016 Masters and now he's got three top 10s in his last four, including the win. Like it does. He was in the mix. Of course, it's Southern Hills, like very much in the mix in that. This was, you know, he wasn't really in the mix the Masters this year, but it's just worth noting. It's kind of his time, right? He's going to have maybe two, three year run here where he's going to be in the mix of majors and I'd be hard pressed to see. I'd be surprised if Lowry returned to this level of consistent play.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Neil, I'll push back a little bit too. And you said, you said, you said, speed kind of left the door at jar. I mean, Fitz was, he bogged seven. He got to a good start today. Birdie, two of his first six, bogged seven, and then just parsed from eight through 14. Birdie on 15 after TIO, birdie on 16,
Starting point is 00:10:48 which was really strong. I've shocked him, missed the putt on 17. Like that was an unbelievable golf shot in there. And then like you said, he hit the bad Santa ball on 18. He went down the chimney. I was saying, speed left the door jar in the playoff. I mean, he had, I felt like he had complete control over the first two playoff holes and, and I felt like he hit good putts. I mean, whether it's his fault or not, I think it's like they, they set it on the broadcast, you know, both of those players after those two playoff holes, you had to feel like, speed is thinking, man, I got it. I'm, I'm, I'm leaving it here for him to take it from me. And Fitz has got to feel like, man, I just like, he just gave me another crack at it, right? And that's exactly what happened.
Starting point is 00:11:27 So that's just, I mean, that's just probably how it felt. I just, I don't know, speed. I can't say enough good things about how well he played today. Like four birdies in his first six holes, uh, makes the par on 10 out of freaking nowhere, uh, you know, out of the lake there. And then birdie on 13 was like a big time moment when Cantley was chipping off the green up there. Cantley was involved at that point. And then the bogey on 14 like, that's not a bad bogey. I mean, that that whole so hard like from where he was chipping
Starting point is 00:11:57 and shit. I mean, Cantley damn near pretty much chipped in the water from from the same spot. Spieth had a great, you know, great ship from there. Shitty putt after you had to wait for Patrick to hit, you know, seven or eight minutes from the hit. And then, you know, good shot on 16 from the rough, really safe shot. 17's given him trouble all week, got in there and then 18, you know, not a great second shot in there on 18, but, you know, played well in the playoff too. 66, 66 on the weekend and didn't win. What do we call that? We call that. That is the official Mackenzie Hughes. It was a great, really, that was the best I've seen. Speed. Look, it was the most
Starting point is 00:12:36 in control. As I mentioned, it just didn't feel bandated together. It didn't feel unsustainable. Didn't feel like it was going to fall apart in it at any moment. It wasn't like three steps forward than two steps back. It was just really solid built golf. He looked extremely comfortable in those greens. My only, like, nitpick is, I still think he's got some fear over the 18 inches to four footers. I don't think he's comfortable.
Starting point is 00:13:00 And I think if he didn't fear those at all, one of those two puts that he missed in the playoff gets to the hole. Like like takes the breakout and goes in the back. Like I certainly very stiff over, you know, his posture looks a lot stiffer over the putter for many length than it did early in his career. It, right? But he's not. It's better than it looked earlier in the season. TC.
Starting point is 00:13:20 I know it's going to chime in here that we're off of Poa, you know, we're on the view to invent grass. He was eighth and putting this week. It was a good putting week overall. But again, I'm not even saying, I'm not even critiquing this short putts as much as it is. Like, I need those putts getting to the hole. He was short on a couple of other putts today. He was short on a ton on the West coast and it was short on 16. I know he was short on 16. That one was right in the heart. That was a slow putts straight up the hill though. And it just feels like, again, that's my point. It's like, if I felt like he did not fear those putts as much, we would see the long range putts that we
Starting point is 00:13:50 saw go in for so long with this guy. When he won tournaments, he was making those bombs and we're still nursing him back to health here. But I just think I told you to trust the process. Let's get off. Poah, a doctor's team, they said, let's just get them off. Poah, we got them off. Poah. And the results are manifesting themselves. I'm also not going to be okay with just punty on the West Coast swing for a time. I'm with you, Sally. I'm a you can't give a pass on this last player. You got to be able to play on all types of grasses. That's a player. He's evolving. He's evolving. I know what he knows. The answer that you guys are going to give me, but I'm going to ask the question anyway. Do you think
Starting point is 00:14:24 that spieth like this, does that loss today create scar tissue? Or does he come away with momentum from this event? No, that was great. He was the defending champ. Yeah, I know, but I feel like you let one get away. Like I worry a little bit about, you know, him. I think fits. It's just straight up beat him in the playoff.
Starting point is 00:14:42 That was some of the best golf I've seen. Anybody play over three or four whole stretch. I mean, really, from the time it's stepped on 17 or on 16 at the end of round four all the way through the playoff, that was unbelievable golf. I'll say, I mean, I missed 12 footer and a missed 10 foot putt where you hit the edge of the hole on both of them is like, you just rub, you chalk that up to like, that's just kind of how, how it happens sometimes. You, he didn't hit bad putts. He didn't choke on the putts.
Starting point is 00:15:08 It just didn't go in. And I think he takes a, can take a time from that. That's a really, really good field. A golf course, it's really hard to separate front. I get really hard to separate from the rest of the field. And he outlasted. He beat a shitload of players this week and was like a couple lips away from winning this thing back to back years.
Starting point is 00:15:26 So I would feel great. Everybody. Those are. Those are. You know, you guys know I had to ask the question though, right? You know, I had to address it. Now I want to make a macro point about the tournament the week. Personally speaking, tough, exhausted coming off masters.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Tough. Didn't watch a lot of golf Thursday, Friday, kind of felt like maybe it's been ingrained in me. I'm like, God, I'm gonna turn on heritage. Like, I like this tournament, but it's always a little bit of like, man, I could take a week off here and not watch golf. It was, I'm sure it's like seeing just horses on the leaderboard, right? Like this designated event thing, like you can sign me up for it.
Starting point is 00:16:05 And this is the first test of it for me of like, I was expecting to see many ponies and other type mules and just like names, you're like Walker, like, you know, whatever, whatever. And Thursday, Friday, Saturday, the leaderboard had a mix of both. Come Sunday though, you're looking at that leaderboard in the bottom, right?
Starting point is 00:16:23 And it just looks really like, you know, there's some horse power on there and that's, uh, that's, that's good. I think that's good for golf. That's good for the PGA tour. You guys feel the same way? Hell yeah. I mean, it just, there's so much, um, we obviously got to talk Rory and we will be talking plenty of Rory here. We want to get a lot of stuff out of the way here as we go into that, but it is a part, a big part of the reason of why I've been optimistic and excited about the designated event model is what happened today, what happened this entire week of like,
Starting point is 00:16:53 it's not a, you know, we got Cantlay, Spieth and Fitz up there at the top and our guys that we're already playing this tournament, Cantlay and Spieth were in the playoff last year, Fitz plays it every year. So it's not like these guys got added to the field that wouldn't have been there. But what you do is increase the probability of getting big names at the, at the very top. It's just, but then you got Sheffler up there.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Oh, yeah. And he's not playing great. So it's kind of, it's honestly fun to watch him, like struggle a little bit, but you got sung Jay, you got Zander, you know, with a backdoor top five or top 10, like, it's just like, you're like, man, the cream is rising here over four days. And I think that's really, really good to see in a kind of a regular stop event. It's dudes who are like good at, like good at their irons, too. Like real golfers, like real, real golfers, speed, can't lay, softly, saw, hith, Brian Harman. It's just a fun, it's a fun. Sung Jerry. Well, that balls in the air on this golf course. It's fun, right?
Starting point is 00:17:48 I mean, I don't really want to play this course that badly. I think it'd be such a horrible fit for me. I think it, I don't want to say it's so bad. It's good. I don't mean that. It's just the greens are so well designed. I don't like, you know, trees over hanging fairways in general, but the greens are so well designed that it just requires enough artistry when you're semi behind a tree and it just puts a little extra weight on all the tee shots. I, I'm with
Starting point is 00:18:07 you Neil. I always am like, heritage week. I'm kind of ready for some downtime. And by the time the weekend rolls around, I'm like, dude, I'm vibing with this tournament. I never get excited for it, but I always enjoy watching it. And CBS has done such a good job covering it the last few years. I think they've really, like this is where they really elevated their game coming out of the pandemic and said, Hey, we're doing some different stuff here. And they've kept on like, I thought the camera angles were awesome today. I thought they had some good commentary on there. They weren't afraid to pull point. Like they weren't pulling any punches. You know, some great down the line, putting shots. Just it was, it was awesome. I mean, yeah,
Starting point is 00:18:44 the commercial load is what it is on a PGA tour event. But yeah, I don't know. This is one of my favorite tournaments of the schedule all year, even when Satoshi Kadyra or Brian Gay or CT Pan wins. It's just awesome. I love it.
Starting point is 00:19:00 This course, there's such a great cadence to it. You got to kind of pin your ears back early with two and was that two and five or like the two easy par-fives on the front there. Seven such a tough, sorry, four such a tough one to get to. And then you've got 11, 12, 13, like look alike. And then they end up being just a little bit different from one another. You got to shape the ball both ways. 13 such an awesome hole.
Starting point is 00:19:26 14. You got it. You can't fake it there. There's nowhere to bail out. And then 15's just like such a cool like watching guys rip high draws around that corner or over that corner. 16's a cool dicey little hole. 17 got to step up and hit a golf shot.
Starting point is 00:19:41 And then 18 is like different from anything else in the course. I love this tournament. I feel like as many beefs as we have with the PGA tour, they get their back. Nines right. Like the majority of the courses, maybe it just built up historical knowledge that we have of the holes, but some of the front nines and some of the courses are very forgettable. But the back nines are like, dude, there's elements to everyone. I will say, I think it's five years now since we had like the seminal moment in the shittery that was golf coverage at the time, which was Satoshi Kadyra, the year he won, they bumped up teatimes because of weather. And it wasn't live anywhere. You had to follow it on
Starting point is 00:20:13 the app if you wanted and everything was taped away. And that was the last time they tried to pretend that it wasn't live. Now they do online stuff and do all kinds of weird stuff. But I think just thinking about how far it's come today with John Rom in the booth talking golf at a designated event at RBC versus Satoshi Kadira winning on tape to lay five years ago. It's like, holy shit, as this event had an incredible glow up. And I was, I mean, for the sponsors that are stepping up to pay the big money for the designated events as somebody that's kind of, again, rooting for these things to be entertaining that delivered on that front today. So which I'm super curious on that because like RBC, I would assume they would want the Canadian open to be a designated
Starting point is 00:20:49 event, but I think just proximity to US open and the fact that it's like a national open and they have qualifying for it and all that, they can't make it one, I think. I think it would have to do with the run of between memorial, US open travelers all happening in June as it is, that that would be a factor there. I don't know. I still I want to talk about that. But before we get to there, the no, laying a podcast of course brought to you by our friends at titles. The number one ball and golf and the choice of RBC Heritage Champion, Matt Fitzpatrick. They sent this copy over early. I mean, they were confident that Fitz was going to win this thing. This week at Harvard, down 102 players, teed up a pro v one or pro v one x model. I've got to put that
Starting point is 00:21:28 number in there instead of just saying the number one played ball out there because that's 102 out of how everybody guys were in this field. That's a lot. 40 or whatever. Yeah. That's 48 played the pro v 54 played the x 71% of the field, including each of the top three finishers and 12 of the top 14. Good news for your TC. We are going to run down a very early run down the leaderboard here. Fitzpatrick plays the Provi 1x as the spieth and can't lay. Saw, Hith, Hayden Buckley and Brian Harmer.
Starting point is 00:21:54 All Provi 1 guys, Sung J, Provi 1x, Cam Davis, Provi 1. I'm not letting you get a word in here TC because we're going to save your segment for later. Fitz was in complete control of his ball all week gaining nearly 11 shots, T-degree, with more than nine of those coming on approach shots and around the green not to mention the final approach in the playoff. From 187 yards to five inches, Fitz's own words on why he plays ProB1X.
Starting point is 00:22:16 There's obviously so many different variables with a golf ball. I've always been kind of a lower flight player, but I'm kind of high spin. So that's where I feel like my game is out with the golf ball. To be able to rely on the golf ball and know that it's going to do what I want it to do, have a consistent flight, consistent spin
Starting point is 00:22:28 with every shot that I hit. That's so important. Having that ability to know what your ball is going to do rather than second guessing makes a hell of a difference and obviously makes you more comfortable. And from there, you're going to hit better golf shots. I love the golf ball that I'm in. It works perfectly for my game.
Starting point is 00:22:40 It's end quote. Choosing the right golf balls all about flight spin and feel head over to titles.com to start the fitting process and find out which pro v one is right for you. 12 of the top 14. That's insane. So what including chess when they on this RBC note, you see when they came out with this thing and they said that the heritage is going to be elevated the week after the masters. I mean, I think like most golf fans immediate red flag of like, huh, and I really, I remember thinking to myself, like, they must know something I don't. They, they must say, let's jam these in. We want to get these out of
Starting point is 00:23:12 the way. We want to play back to back. We want to try to peak for these weeks and take more time off. Didn't get the feeling rolling into this week that there were a bunch of dudes that were especially happy to be there. Do you want to do Rory now? Or do you want to address a, no, let's wait. Let's wait. Can we go, we got plenty to talk. Can we go down the leaderboard a little bit because we got to talk. All right, first of all, when do we want to do Cantlay? Go ahead. You can't lay. We gotta do the one that you're doing right now. Well, yeah, I mean, good playing today. Shot 68, 66, 68 on the weekend. I don't know. I mean, he slow played the hell out of the guys on 13. Did it again on 14? Made him wait 15 TIO on purpose over the green. So did FIS.
Starting point is 00:23:51 So did FIS. TIO on purpose on nine as well. And then, you know, Billy Foster, standing on 16T, I think, just, you know, about to gouge his eyes out. Patrick had a, in an ace this week, made a self-deprecating joke on there about trying to play faster, which I thought, you know, maybe a little bit of an opening there. Maybe the first shred of self-awareness we've seen from him on this issue before, but man, it was tough. Dottie, you know, even IBF was getting in on the fun today. Frank was getting in on the fun.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Trevor, I applaud him for bringing it up. Yeah, it's just not, it's not good, man. It's not good. Like at some point, like, this is conduct on becoming of a professional and the, and the tour needs to step in. It's, it's, it's tough. It certainly is. I think the, the one that really stuck out the worst. First of all, I think CBS and networks have gone back to doing him no favors. They're showing too much of the pre-shot routine. I feel like as they should, the commentary's totally fine, but they used to be, they kind
Starting point is 00:24:51 of, there's a time period like five years ago when they would cut to them and he would shuffle, shuffle, shuffle, shuffle, shuffle, shuffle, shuffle. And drove everyone mad and he has gotten better with the shuffle, I must say. And I think networks got better at like, do we don't need to show this guy until he's hit the shot? And then we can go back. And now that he's been more in the mix, it's kind of there into his pre-shot routine
Starting point is 00:25:08 and like really showing the drag and it's not good for viewers. It's gonna drive viewers crazy. One, it shouldn't be happening. And two, like they don't need to show it. Like we don't need to go through all that and wanna gouge our eyes out. Three sums on a Sunday is not great. Like the group really wasn't far behind.
Starting point is 00:25:24 So I don't mean to excuse it. Totally the fifth, the what happened on 14 was horrible. Like he waited five minutes to hit that shot off the, off the woodworking. He got, he got his orbital sander out or saws all. They had a reciprocating saw, I think for that one. But that was really bad. That's when Doddy got in on it and spief, it said spief
Starting point is 00:25:43 and and and fits were visibly upset at getting slow played in that. And it's an extremely tough scene and he's got to address it. And if the announcer's going to be that hard on you, everyone on social media is that hard on you. Like it's probably you. That's the problem here and not some grand conspiracy against you and a self deprecating tweet doesn't really address it.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Now at the same time, I still remain direct all slow play complaints at John Carter NOU. I don't want to be tagged on any of them. That's fine. I just think it's starting to get into the mainstream, right? It's all the Boko Haram meme accounts were picking it up this week. You know, I saw Ryan Whitney tweeting about it. I saw I saw all sorts of people that don't normally tweet about a bunch of golf starting to pick up on this and he's starting to get all sorts of vitriol that, you know, is, it's not gonna get any better until he publicly and forthrightly address.
Starting point is 00:26:34 He's, he is such an easy target just by his, it's the demeanor too, right? It's the way he goes about. Like there's some other guys that are, it's the slow walks in the deliberate walking in between. It's the expressions on his face. It's kind of the whole package. So it's not doing himself any favors, which I think it's probably, in some ways, I don't know if it's conduct unbecoming. I don't know if I'm ready to go that far, T.C. But what doesn't help his case is when they go to the playoff and Speed and Fitzpatrick are playing like I mean what a breath of fresh air those guys are playing so fast and they're it's just back and forth and the action is awesome So as a viewer like it's a it's a great AB test of like you having can't lay in that group sucked
Starting point is 00:27:18 It's basically like what it comes down to so that doesn't help his his case of like oh I'm not playing any slower. Look at the shot link data, which is I'm sure it would be his response. And space not quick pass in the ice. Let me put it that way. Space not quick, but like I don't think he's a gregiously slow and he's he's like, yes, he makes decisions and everything slowly and deliberately, but like he's pretty decisive once he's over the ball and once he's, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:46 Like that's what I mean. That's what I'm in between shots. That's what I'm getting at is speed slow play is almost engaging as a fan. Like his conversation with Greller in 18 fairway in the, on the first hole to play off was like the best part of the broadcast today. Like he picks seven. No, he goes back. That's, or he had eight iron.
Starting point is 00:28:02 That's not going to get there. He goes back and gets it. And we got the whole conversation. So shout out to the telecast for laying out on that whole sequence, whereas Cantlet's taking just as much time, but he's doing it all in his head. He's dead silent, he's not talking anyway, he's not letting you in on his process.
Starting point is 00:28:17 So like, in some ways, it's just his, you know, the way he goes about his business is not as entertaining for fans. Therefore, he's probably gonna get some, some heat if he's also slow at the same time. So is that fair? I don't know, but that's a fact. Yeah, it's just something to I mean, people are turning up to see speed as well. And like, Patrick's 10 times slower than speed is. I'm not I'm not even going to put him in the same universe of buckets. Also, Neil, people are asking what I meant by the Boca
Starting point is 00:28:48 Haram meme accounts. I thought I'd split that one in. It's, we're talking about low-level terrorist groups here. Like Al Shabab and Boca were. People that are militarizing the youth with golf memes. It's a deep cut joke. Well, unpacked that at some other time. You should write a blog on it, aren't on our newly resuscitated website. Maybe I will. There's a whole
Starting point is 00:29:13 terror network to the golf influencers. We'll get into that at a later date. I don't want to dive headfirst. We've talked a lot of slow play stuff over the years and I don't want to regurgitate everything, but I will say two things on this. Two ways to improve the pace issue on the PGA Tour. One is field size limitation, which we're going to see in the designated events in the future. Second thing, a rollback would also contribute to that. And it would contribute to less in theory, less spicy greens, less hidden pin placements,
Starting point is 00:29:43 less time to have them go out in three sums, three sums are what bogs everything down. It's a, it's a bigger traffic problem than it is. A bunch of, like with TIO and grandstands and ropes and cables and people in the way, it is just natural that three sums are gonna get bogged the fuck down on repeat. We've seen it literally like every single round
Starting point is 00:30:02 that three sums happen. That nothing's gonna change. People can play faster, but there's still a traffic problem in golf. I'm yet to have here somebody come up with a better idea than my green light, yellow light, red light idea, which is the only way to reward the and punish the slow players as making play with other slow players. So they can't screw over the fast players and they give them the worst t times, the worst draws and give them, you know, then basically you start the round on the clock when you are a red light player when you're one of the bottom third in pace in
Starting point is 00:30:29 the field and let the green light go guys get out in front and go run. That's the best thing I've heard other than just like go penalty like shot clock and go penalize players. No, you're not giving my, my theory is you got a mystery shop these guys. You got to have rules officials in playing clothes, air martial style. Just okay. You never know if you're paranoid that you could be on the clock at any point, then you know what, it's the same, it works the same way with getting a speeding ticket. Like, there might be a cop up there with a radar gun. It seems to be effective for making people
Starting point is 00:30:58 drive the speed limit most of the time. But 99% of the people that are commenting on slow play, I can't really do not sign up and play tournament golf. Like they don't understand that there is no point in rushing to go wait on the next shot, right? So that's why the rules that are in place are what they are. If you're not behind, like you don't need to play a shot under 40 seconds. If somebody comes up to you and say, Hey, you guys are behind.
Starting point is 00:31:19 You need to hurry the fuck up. You got to play a shot in 40 seconds. That's what the rule is, right? So every, so every, what you do is a good job with this? Right. But like, they don't set like a better way to do it. Also, USGA dumped a ton of money in studying pace of play that one of their biggest conclusions, you got to space out teatimes more, right? Like that. So three sends 11 minutes apart. Like it was today, guaranteed bog down reachable par five's going to bog it down. Anytime you're gonna make pros hit shots between
Starting point is 00:31:46 220 and 270 yards in the green guaranteed to bog the whole down like that's just like man. Yeah, the mules are bogging it down like I ain't in the mud. It's a trail. Complicate a problem. The comments in there that say just enforce the rules. I promise you if that solved the problem, the PGA Tour would have dressed this 20 years ago. But it just, however, though, solid, however, KVD put in his article this week, there's been one player in the last 10 years penalized for slow play in a major. That's almost 20,000 rounds.
Starting point is 00:32:20 One guy, the whole, the whole out of position thing thing they need to rewrite that part of it They need to publish the shot link data on who is slow and who is not because I'm you know what we're starting to put malicious together rules Rules and pace of play malicious and we're gonna start taking the shit into our own hands as fans It's getting to that point their peers also need to stand up and call this shit out Yes, yeah, that does seem like not lead. They cannot lean on the tour and say what's going on? Where are the rules? How come nobody's enforcing it?
Starting point is 00:32:49 It's their tour. So they want to stand behind it. Somebody's got to call them out. Because we obviously sought today. We heard it last week. People are fed up with it. And fucking say something about it. It's like, what happened?
Starting point is 00:33:00 You speak. Keep talking about the product. The fucking product is also a pace of play. One of your favorite moments today, Neil, what happens with speech? Speech took like two about the product. The fucking product is also a piece of play. One of your favorite moments today, Neil, what happens with speech? Speech took like two minutes to hit that shot into 18. What happens there?
Starting point is 00:33:09 Is that penalty? Well, I disagree with the, I think there's a, that's why it's a good question. I don't think that's a penalty, so I'll answer your question. But it's, there's context there, right? There are two, the two some in a playoff, I think there needs to be like, if you want to take, this is where rewriting the rules makes sense. If you want to take two minutes on that
Starting point is 00:33:31 shot, that's fine. But then you can't take two minutes on the putt. And you know what, when Jordan stepped up to the green, he's playing quick, right? So if I feel like there should be an allotment for the whole, if that's possible, or if there were, you know, guys out there that were actually looking for slow play and looking to call penalty, the mystery shoppers, as I said earlier, they would take that context into account. If someone had to walk back to the tee, it's like, hey, man, you got to do it. Like, sometimes that happens in golf, but like, if you continue to play slow and deliberately
Starting point is 00:33:59 and make no effort to speed up, you should be penalized for it. And say what you want about Jack? Like, Jack used to, you know, be super slow and then he got knocked for a slow play penalty in a tour of it. And from then on, he was like, you know what, you're right. Like he took it like a champ and said, you know what, you're right.
Starting point is 00:34:15 And he and Arnie and other veterans helped enforce it, player to player, right? There needs to be shame involved. There needs to be like, we need to make these guys where Scarlett fucking letters. I would say it in his way. We are not the bad people for this. We are not the ones that are playing slow. We might be the ones talking about it and having the conversation about it. But I hope to see that their peers actually say something. Yeah. Then what happened. So again, what you just laid out, Neil, like I would say, good luck writing that rule, right? Like the kind of an high test situation, right? I got you.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I know. And I'm not. It's hard. It's complicated, but I'm like, or pretending it's not complicated. I, I understand. I'm, I'm sorry, I understand that the rule, I don't think the rules written very well. But there is a problem. And I think that it should be, it doesn't feel like they're addressing it in any meaningful way. Exactly. It's just like, it's a big, let's throw our hands up. And it's like, there's, there are, let's get a jam session going. Let's whiteboard some stuff here, right?
Starting point is 00:35:13 Because it's like a good example is, when Kent Light chipped it onto the railroad ties on 14. I agree with, KVV had it in his piece, Andy Johnson said it, like, there is some skill and part of being an athlete is can you make quicker decisions? It's like, you'll hit this shot or take a drop. Like you don't get to take six clubs out of your bag and take 50 backswings and think about
Starting point is 00:35:39 it for five minutes. I just think that that's egregious. And there should be some type, we should be able to come up with a rule for something like that, where it's like, okay, if you, like a good opportunity, sometimes when it's in a vacuum, from the minute the rules official shows up,
Starting point is 00:35:55 like, and you ask for a ruling, there should be a clock on that, where it's like, once the ruling's over, you have X amount of time, because that's almost in a, like you could start addressing specific situations, where it like, Hey, man. And then other, other situations, it's like, no, you're not out of position and you took more time on that shot. Like, yeah, we can't police every single shot in a golf tournament. But when a rule is official shows
Starting point is 00:36:16 up, that's usually where things slow down. The whole group has to stay. It's like, Hey, man, now you asked for a ruling, you got a speed back up. And that's exactly that's part of it. That's part of it. You should have a shitty spot. You asked for a ruling you got a speed back up and that's exactly that's part of it that's part of it you know shitty spot you asked for a ruling now speed the fuck up only two rulings per round like it should be like a challenge in football like you should like knowing the fucking rules is a part of the game of being a pro golfer I agree with that Tc you shouldn't call in the rules is called for everything for fucking everything it's call for everything. He's got to call for everything. He's got to call for everything. He's got to call for everything.
Starting point is 00:36:46 He's got to call for everything. He's got to call for everything. He's got to call for everything. He's got to call for everything. He's got to call for everything. He's got to call for everything. He's got to call for everything. He's got to call for everything.
Starting point is 00:36:54 He's got to call for everything. He's got to call for everything. He's got to call for everything. He's got to call for everything. He's got to call for everything. He's got to call for everything. He's got to call for everything. He's got to call for everything.
Starting point is 00:37:02 He's got to call for everything. He's got to call for everything. He's got to call for everything. He's got to call for everything. He's got to call for everything. He whether the players want us to or not, because it matters for the product of the game and the product of the tournament. I mean, how much spicer would it make it if they're doling out slow play penalties? That's more volatility on the leaderboard. That's entertaining. And to that, all that to say, almost always, there's nowhere to go on the PGA tour. There's somebody right in front of you, right? So that's where it's like, again, it's an enormous traffic problem that in a 70 to 80 person tournament, maybe we do have these issues where it's like, dude, if you are way behind, if you're falling behind now, this should not be happening. Here's a problem. Here's,
Starting point is 00:37:36 you're on the clock. Let's get this solved, right? But it is a combination of like, there's literally trying to get as many people in the golf course as possible at the same time, right? Like that's the goal. Like Gary Young said this at the players were a membership organization trying to create as many playing opportunities as possible. It's not a priority for him. Like it's not a priority to get him on the weekend. What about on the weekend? Like what about the masters last weekend? Like they let Hadecki and and Henley just get behind Willie Nilly. They let like same thing at the players sometimes. Like it's it's like even when there's only 60 to 65 guys on the weekend, they're still not fucking enforcing it.
Starting point is 00:38:11 And there's no, there shouldn't be any traffic jams. So I'd like to go back and answer your question again about speed in the fairway. Like yeah, I'd be cool. Honestly, if they did, you could have a, like they have a standard bear out there. Have a kid out there with a shot clock. He can make that decision. Have a kid out there with an shot clock. He can make that decision for a second. They were then air horn as As somebody I was walking to his ball like they'll adjust like just like pictures having baseball Like have a have a clock have a shot clock in the background every shot every shot on the PJ tour has a shot clock
Starting point is 00:38:39 For 156. Have a kid in the group with a big clock. I mean, it's not I they could definitely do that That's not the big of a deal. They have a kid out there with the freaking scoreboard, right? So what happened? There's a reset it. Okay. But there's a ruling on the group in front. So you still all because it's going to be a jam. It's like, you know, there's a rules official. There's a score in every group. It's like, all right, start the clock, kid. They're on the clock. Like the shot. Or you do it, you do it, you know, just on the weekends when there's only 30 groups out there. And so, you know, or you just do it in the designated events.
Starting point is 00:39:08 We got to start somewhere. We can't let the excuses derail progress. So here's where you got to publish who the slow players are. The issue is the biggest issue is if you are a medium to fast player and another player in your group is causing your group to be close to falling behind or fall off the pace because the slow player doesn't give a shit and the fast player, that's all I think about, right? I'm on the faster end and I fucking hate when I'm playing the slow player that makes
Starting point is 00:39:38 me anxious about the brigade coming behind us. What do you call them? The the the back of your day, I live in fear of that every time I play golf. It's the worst. I've played in an event where somebody has taken two and a half minutes of it on a shot and caused us to be that guy. And I'm the only one that suffered for that. Right. So I don't, and I get, I don't know how to write that rule though. It's just not. It's, that's where I'm like, they should be penalized. Like if you had the clock and they start, I think it would start to show that like it's this person that is slowing us down. He is the one that continues to take it down to the buzzer, right? And if there's a ruling,
Starting point is 00:40:10 yeah, there needs to be exceptions. I asked for a ruling. Well, cool. You gotta then, you know, there needs to be like, we're going to be on you then, right? Like they should really hard to get back in the positions. That's like what a, that that's what a rule. That's why you're fucking rules of that they would tell you like I can't write a rule like it's a judgment call like I can't I will move it on we'll move it on but sorry. Somebody else here. You're throwing your hands up just like the best idea. Make the red light players play with each other. Make the slowest players have to play with each other. Then they screw each other over what do you do on the weekend then I mean make them make them do that still. But don't even give them
Starting point is 00:40:44 the ideal pairings on the weekend. Make them play in the red light pairings on the weekend then? I mean, we do make them do that still. But don't even give them the ideal pairings on the weekend. Make them play in the red light pairings on the weekend. So somebody had a great idea in here. Somebody had a great idea in here. They said they said they should just put the entire field on the clock. And if the entire field finishes too slowly, everybody gets de-cute. Whole field, purse, purse rolls over to next week. I've heard, I've heard a lot of great ideas. That's that's certainly one of them.
Starting point is 00:41:07 I might I might unpack my shot clock idea. I think that's sweet. Get another Evan scholar involved. They tried that. They've done that on the European tour. Yeah, I know. And it was cool. Do try it again. Just try something. Do something. I cannot stress how big of a like how big of a undertaking this to shot clock every shot that happens in a PGA tour of it. All right, we're falling behind. We're at a position right now. What are we going to next?
Starting point is 00:41:32 We need a rule like where do you want to go? Where do you guys want to go next? All right, so you were talking about it earlier, Solid. What do you think thoughts on Harbor Town as a designated event? Do they move this tournament from this spot? Like what do they do? So again, I was confused as to why they were doing this right after a major. I'm still confused reading everything and seeing the reaction, seeing the Rory thing happen.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Yet, if you look at the tentative schedule for next year, there is something marked for the week after the Masters for a designated event. I would assume this is on the slate to be a designated event again next year. So I don't know if that changes after this week. I don't, I don't think the situation has changed. I would think guys have plenty of experience coming off the week of a major and knowing what tournament they've signed up for or not signed up for the week after it. A lot of dudes play the travelers the week after the US open.
Starting point is 00:42:24 A lot of dudes have, have, have, have played this event in the past as well. So maybe just to lead up to the masters is different and not as many designated events in the run up to it based on the schedule. I've seen that looks to be the case and maybe it does. It's a lot in bed. Play goes away. Yeah, maybe the 2023 bridge year, which we all kind of knew was a problem year in general, isn't the blueprint going forward and dudes come with a little bit more energy and maybe fans aren't as burned out leading into this week. But it works.
Starting point is 00:42:51 And they're not mandatory next year either. Like that's the other thing, right? Correct, but it certainly seems like it, the incentive naturally is going to be there at a higher level between points and money for next year, right? I mean, I would struggle to see you guys skipping designated events. I don't know. I mean, I think, you know, like we're playing fucking golf here, guys. We're not like, we're not shipping these guys off to war. We're not like, you know, like we're, we're sending you to Hilton head.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Yeah. To go to Pro Am to play a couple of million rounds for $20 million. And you know what? Like if you don't like it, like you can miss the cut or like you can sit at home and not play for the $20 million, whatever. But like, Ram showed up this week after, I mean, having one of the craziest weeks of his life, we're directing this at Rory now, right? Because by all accounts, everyone else showed up. I mean, they, some comments on fatigue and playing a lot of golf, but one of them came from speed even leading up into the sports too, right? Is fatigue and playing a lot of golf and like the, you know, baseball is 162 game season,
Starting point is 00:43:49 load management and all that stuff. But like you still got to show up and play the games at some point. Does that mean it's time to worry? You got making they should get together as it, as it, you know, making adjustment. If you guys
Starting point is 00:44:01 want to stack tournaments, there's probably an argument for like, let's just, you know, there's probably an argument for like, let's just, let's play back to back. Or, and then we have more weeks off in between, or do you wanna have a week off and then a designated event and then a week off? Like, you guys, it's your tour, make the rules,
Starting point is 00:44:15 but if you're, if you're gonna show up, then show up. So, for next year, that's better for the product. The plan is to bunch two with three full field events in between, right? That's the plan. So, there's spacing should be better for next year, right? But they also 2023 was always a hybrid year. It was not going to be the blueprint to be followed. But at the same time, these guys voted for and wanted this structure. They rushed these four extra elevated events into happening. And this is one of them, right? So it's not
Starting point is 00:44:44 like this was sprung on them or kind of forced upon them. On the Rory front, I think first off, an obvious disclaimer here, we don't officially know why he withdrew, right? I want, if it's something personal, something with his family, something with his parents, his wife, his daughter,
Starting point is 00:44:59 obviously something that takes precedence over golf, we, I think that's, could be understood, if that's the case. Now the lack of reasoning for a withdrawal leaves a lot of room for speculation. And I think we are okay to speculate. At this point, he had a whole week to kind of provide a reason for it. If you know, he could even something as simple as like if it was personal, hey, I just want some privacy right now. Got a lot going on. Here's why we didn't get any of that this week. I think there would have been some leeway and understanding among amongst golf fans fans if that was the case.
Starting point is 00:45:27 And I just want to leave space for the disclaimer because if it turns out like there was an obvious reason for him to miss a golf tournament in that, you know, when we do hear why, that we've at least had that part of the discussion, right? There's a lot of things that take precedence over golf. If not, however, if not, if he's burned out, if he's just, you know, withdrawing because he didn't feel like playing this week, it's obviously
Starting point is 00:45:51 very, very, very bad. I, I, I do think when we hear from Rory, he will acknowledge this. I think if he was a less self-aware person, he may try to downplay it and, you know, kind of play it off, but I would guess when we do hear from Rory, he may try to downplay it and, you know, kind of play it off. But I would guess when we do hear from Rory, it's going to come with very serious kind of perspective of like, you know, I think that's kind of one of the reasons we admire Rory is he is self-aware. And I'd be stunned if like any of what we're going to say about this has to be explained to him.
Starting point is 00:46:19 He knows exactly that, you know, what he's set himself up for here. This is what you wanted. This is what you've been leading. You said in the next Netflix series, if I can do it, then so can you and talking about making personal sacrifices for the schedule, you skipped Capulua and left yourself no wiggle room in the remaining part of the schedule.
Starting point is 00:46:36 And everyone's been, you know, pretty much shouting that you've been pouring yourself into this thing. They don't burn yourself out out like manage your energy. And when they came out with the schedule for a designated event after the masters, again, I thought maybe they knew something that we didn't like who could have this was a very obvious thing to see coming of like not wanting to show up for one of these things. And I it may just all may have back fired max at one point compared to Harvey Dent last June.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Harvey Dent also said the phrase either a a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. And all of a sudden, it's like kind of flipped on. I'm very quickly. It's an enormous blow, the entire structure, the designated event schedule. It was built off guys making sacrifices. And he's going to have to take some, take some heat for this one. Completely agree. And, and I would say this is 90% his fault. And, you know, I think I still think it's bullshit that he was put into the position
Starting point is 00:47:29 of having to speak for the tour and for Jay Monahan at places like Bay Hill and other places where Monahan like have an informal scrum with reporters or let more people in and drip some of this stuff out and have casual conversations. Instead of relying upon guys like Rory to carry the weight of the entire tour from a communications perspective. And that was the case for the last six to eight months. But more than anything, I'm with you, Sally on the skipping Kapalua, not a good, not a good look there, especially knowing
Starting point is 00:48:02 that, hey, you know what, if you know you were Zapped after major weeks where also he didn't play the week before the Masters and by the weekend he's played Yeah, exactly like you missed the cut like man. I mean just like you you rode so hard for this and Like you can't just show up and you know what like I know Ram had some quotes that we'll get to and all that, but like, it's fucking Hilton head, man. Like it's, it's like the most low key casual tournament on the entire tour. It's like something out of the late 70s as far as the crowds and everything. It's great. I'll say this though, like he knows all of this.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Like, you know, that's what makes it more alarming, I think, in terms of like, I would not be surprised. This is pure speculation if we don't see him for a little while. I, if he's willing to do this, it might be like, I truly need a mental break at a point where, again, that's speculation, but it's freaking alarming that this would happen. And it's a cause for, again, if it was someone, I don't want to pull a name out of a hat. If it was someone different than Rory that wasn't so integral in planning this, it might be a little lost on that person as to why
Starting point is 00:49:13 they can't do this. And it's, but it just sucks when guys like you're, he's saying over and over again for guys to trust him and guys to, you know, he's taken the baton and making guys almost turn on each other a little bit of like, Hey, you know, he's taking the baton and making guys almost turn on each other. They're a little bit of like, hey, you know what, we're the top players. We need to get together. Trust me on this and all that. And then like, you know, you're going into battle with your guys and you just kind of bail. Like that sucks.
Starting point is 00:49:36 And I get that there's that there's extenuating stuff there, but like, you know what, man, like everybody's busy and you got to, you got to take one for the team here. And like, I know, you know know he lost $3 million or whatever because of this, Roy doesn't give you shit about $3 million. But I'll tell you what Roy does care about, his credibility in the locker room. And guys were throwing shade at him,
Starting point is 00:49:58 Zander was throwing shade. Other guys, and it's like, Rob stepped up and did the CBS thing today. After showing up, grinding his ass off to make the cut and then playing really well on the weekend. And Rory can't be bothered to show up for three or four fucking days. Come on, man. I got a kick out of that.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Like, you know, I mean, it's like, John, we know how exhausted, how tired you are. Like I can't believe what, what a world when it's been now just have a seat and do 45 minutes of analysis for us here. You basically just do our jobs for us for the next 45 minutes, which I loved, but I just thought that was a funny flip on things. I would say I agree with you both. I don't really think it matters what we think, but T.C., I think you nailed it with that last point.
Starting point is 00:50:38 And I liked that golf is starting to operate like other sports. It reminded me of the Harto on a college football team. team is like, oh, we got a we got a grind. We got to work so hard. We got to hit these morning runs and and then you know, they're the first one jumping out like during morning runs with a, you know, I just, yeah, man, I'm overheating or whatever. It's like, well, you can't say all that stuff. You got to back it up with with some action for this to happen this early in the designated event calendar is what's tough. Now I guess the good side of that for him is winning fixes a lot of stuff that's a long
Starting point is 00:51:12 season. So, you know, if he comes back out and he is self-aware about this and he does, you know, kind of step up to the mic and explain himself for whatever. More so to his colleagues, less so to us. I don't think he owes us anything, but more so to his colleagues, then I think he's, you know, like, yeah, man, I needed a minute and I know how it looks. And, you know, that's it is what it is. And I'm going to grind the rest of the year.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Then I will, I will wait for that to happen because we, you know, he hasn't said anything about it. But like as of right now, I agree with you. It doesn't look good. Well, he could have also done that this week. And from what I've gathered that was not been communicated even to the fellow players, right? I reached out to a couple of guys like, also showed up and just not said much to, you know, like, yeah, you're going to have to answer some questions because you played like shit last week. But at the end of the day, man, you really could just go about your business. It's Hilton head. It's pretty low key. Like, I don't know. It
Starting point is 00:52:02 feels like, you know, he hadn't seen the family in a while. Maybe he could bring the family. It's a pretty, it's a beach environment. Like, I don't want to, you know, make too many assumptions about that stuff, but it just felt, it felt like an own goal. Like a short term, like, I don't want to play this week. And sometimes how I feel on Mondays, I don't want to, I don't want to friggin, you know, work today. And then you know what? Sometimes if you just beast it on Monday, then you're like, you know what, I knocked out a bunch of stuff. And now I feel better about Tuesday instead of doing nothing on Monday and having a boatload of shit the rest of the week.
Starting point is 00:52:33 It's just like, it's just short-sighted a little bit. Well, it sucks too, because like, you know, I get, he plays DP World Tour events. He's doing all this stuff. He's signed up for all this stuff. But when you sign up for all that stuff and to be the face and voice of the PGA tour and and to talk extra shit to Greg Norman and other people, you gotta like think through it and say, you know what? Like am I ready? Like am I do I have enough capability to do this? We're always only played seven events this year. This is the 15th week of the year. Like he hasn't teed it up in over half of the weeks in 2023. And like, can't really kind of mailed it into waste management. Just like his attitude was very like, yeah, I'm pretty excited to be here.
Starting point is 00:53:15 And I kind of took him to task a little bit after that happened too. I was like, no dude, like we need some freaking enthusiasm going into these things. If I were to like, again, there's a lot of theories we can throw out as to what has happened here. If I would say he is invested so much of his time in energy into the future success of the PGA tour, right, which he's also pretty much meeting said.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Yeah. He's also pretty much said not that important to him. Like I believe Rory when I say that he wants to leave the game in a better place. He has been, he's one of the leaders of the generation. He wants to be loved. But he has also said, like, dude, when the rollback happens, if the tour doesn't adopt it, like I'm still going to play the rollback ball and tour events because, like, all I care about is the majors. I think he got to the first major, felt maybe under-prepared, felt maybe too much pressure,
Starting point is 00:53:59 whatever it was, all built up. And when he missed the cut at the majors, like, dude, I have invested way too much of my life into this PGA tour struggle here. And I was, and I'm not best prepared to play major championship golf right now. And it's an own goal. It's an own goal for, it's his own fault. That's not anybody's fault, but his own. But maybe now he's saying, like, you know what, I've carried the burden to this point.
Starting point is 00:54:20 I'm not going to carry it right now. I needed a week. I'll be back for Wells Fargo. And I'll play the PGA championship and we'll go from there, but I needed to get back on track to succeed in major championships. That's his best possible chance of an explanation with all the owning that we've already discussed, right? Because it is, this is one of the more symbolic withdrawals.
Starting point is 00:54:38 This is not somebody, you know, missing a tournament. It's not normal, right? Because there's a new agreement in place for these guys to like combine their value and get the most out of it in a, see, in a time period when they're in a fight is not normal, right? Because there's a new agreement in place for these guys to combine their value and get the most out of it. In a time period when they're trying to get people to buy into this model into the future, right? Like the whole future of the tour kind of depends on this. So it's a lot, I kept waiting all week for like,
Starting point is 00:54:58 I'm hopeful that something is just this and not something really personal in his life. Hardly being at a good comment in there, he says, Roy's quiet quitting. Like it sucks too, because it's a course that I was actually excited for, like to see him play, you know? Roy, as much as, again, as much as we like him,
Starting point is 00:55:16 he does some dumb stuff. And he's usually pretty reflective on. He's done a lot of dumb stuff in his career, and he's just able to make a joke about it. And it's probably not a joking time, really. Again, I think he's probably lost. I wouldn't say he's just able to make a joke about it and it's probably not a joking time really. Again, I think he's probably lost. I wouldn't say he's lost the locker room. I think a lot of people are kind of like, huh. All right. Well, that's, that's, that's kind of a tough scene. I don't think it. Great.
Starting point is 00:55:36 It's like when you're, when you're, when you're, when you're quarterback is out like Saturday and I before the big game party. Yeah. A little bit. You know what, man? Like, or like they're, they're down on Bourbon Street for the sugar bowl and a couple of guys get arrested. Or when the Jags went to London and Ronnie Harris and a couple of other guys got arrested and London for getting to a fight in one of the bars. It's like, dude, like you can't be doing that shit, man. And I will say this for Rory, this event, it was like it never even happened, which brings, which brings me to our next sponsor.
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Starting point is 00:57:13 Spees, Spees par on 10 was like it never even happened either. That was pretty good. Rinses it off the tee and then, you know, just the magic eraser. To tie a bow in the Rory thing, Brahms comments leading up into it. He said I was talking to Kelly. I put myself in the shoes of not only the spectators, but the magic eraser. It's a tie-up bow in the Roy thing. Brahms comments leading up into it. He said, I was talking to Kelly. I put myself in the shoes of not only the spectators, but the kids as well. If I was one of those kids,
Starting point is 00:57:30 I would want to see the recent Masters champion play good, bad, just want to be there. And then Zander had a comment, said, rules are rules. So I mean, for the most part, a lot of what he wanted is what's happening and the irony is that he's not here. Brahms said, he said there's a line out the door of people waiting on their on their prime
Starting point is 00:57:45 meets and I, you know, I have to turn that close sign to open, you know, we have a job to do here in the butcher shop. Um, it's good. A brilliant interest to see what the fallout is from this. Um, again, he lost three million of his $12 million pit money. He should 100% lose that. I don't want to see any waivers for that. I think that the torch should be transparent
Starting point is 00:58:05 about losing that. And again, unless there's very extenuating circumstances that were not been made aware of yet, I don't think he should deserve a pass, but it doesn't really matter. That's crisis management, right? Like get out in front of it and be up front and say, hey, you know what, like I've had some unexpected things
Starting point is 00:58:21 happen in my personal life. And like it's something too, where like I don't want to talk out of both sides of my mouth. Where like mental health is important and all that. But like, Roy's pretty well adjusted, dude. Like people get tired and worn down and exhausted. That's different, you know, that's different from having a mental breakdown, you know.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Yeah, and maybe again, like looking for just a little bit just this way. I hope that's not the case. I hope he just yeah didn't feel I hope we everything what we're speculating about is is the reason and that he just didn't feel like playing like yeah that sucks, but like I hope it's not like something serious. So yeah, that would be working. Having to sit here and like talk ill on Rory, because I love Rory. He's my dude. But the reason I love him is he can take it also.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Like you expect spare critiques. Like we've given critiques of him many times in the past and he can take it. So it's also a good thing he didn't go to live because you can't skip tournaments on live. Very true. Very true. You know, I heard some stories about dudes
Starting point is 00:59:23 that have tried to go home during tournament week to family situations they've had and not been successful at that. So again, maybe just looking at it schedule this week off Zurich and Mexico open all off in a row before Wells Fargo and the run up. Rob. Rob team it up in Mexico again, defending his title. Man, that's like playing a lot of golf before the PGA. Airprost, right? And you know, and like I'm sure Roy is looking ahead at PGA championship.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Erica's wife is from Rochester. I think he owns a, like owns a home up there. Like that's a home game models are off the charts for Rory up in Rochester. L.A. is going to be a zoo. He's one at Liverpool. He's looking at the, the upcoming major schedule and saying, you know what? Yeah, this is this is great. I need to be well-rested for these. But like, again, think about that before you try to white night for the tour, you know.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Tough scene all around. T.C. you want to do a little down the leaderboard? I'll let you have a couple of things. You would would never ask you would just call out what you think are no worthy performances. I'll start with one saw hit the golla T5 performance, shot 60 65 today, costly bogey on 18, but he made himself a $770,000 this weekend. So was happy for. Yeah. Yeah. Xander kind of an uncompetitive top top five. Yeah, saw his, saw as the man, dude. I love watching him play golf, shipped in a few times today. So speedy. Hayden. He's so speedy. Yeah. Hayden Buckley 66, 67 on the weekend up to 33rd in the FedEx cup. He's putting together a nice little season. Neil Brian Harman, our mega court brother. There we go. Um, um, SungJM course fit for Harman.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Yeah. SungJ is just a stud, man. He needs to stop wearing that wipe belt with all black outfit though. Can I pause you TC? I'll let you have your time on the back in here just to photo question here. With this designated event model, do you guys find yourself at all, even slightly, even a point one percent slightly more interested in the FedEx Cup race this year. Yes. I totally. I totally. 100% more. Right. Interesting. It's not really even taken full effect yet. Like next year
Starting point is 01:01:32 when they have the different weighted points and all that, I'm like, it just, it took maybe it taken 15 years, but it dawned on me today. I'm like, God, I should fucking care who wins the championship at the end of the year. I never have. I really should care. And it feels like this is progress. It's hard to when all the events are super flat, but now that we have the tears, it just feels a little bit more worth following. And I'm curious to see how stuff shakes out near the very top now. More than I have in the past, I should say. Totally. Low key to like Hayden Buckley, guy like him, T five, $772,000.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Crazy. This week. Grillo, little T seven action as well, 600K for Grillo. He's I always love watching him. I just, yeah, Cam Davis, T 70 and a really good weekend, 66, 68. Scotty Sheplow, let's talk some Scotty real quick. He was extra bitchy today. I probably would have been too if I couldn't get the ball in the hole like that.
Starting point is 01:02:31 I was like watching, watching me in high school. He said he got a hot mic's pretty hard in a bunker. It came up with a, with a fried egg and he, well, I think the quote was some, so much to be fine for that. He had not, what do you say, a punch eight iron turns into a fried egg. I so it wasn't for the rake job.
Starting point is 01:02:47 It was for the amount of sand in the bunker. Yeah. Yeah, it was for how much sand was in the bunker, which yeah, I, I don't know. I forget what whole that was on was that on eight. I think it was, but I don't, I don't think if he'd hit the green, it would have plugged, right? I don't think it would have been that big of an issue. So he hit it into a green side hazard and had a bad lie.
Starting point is 01:03:05 I think the policy going forward should be every good lie you get in a bunker, you should be thanking the golf gods. Like that's the baseline, right? Yes. It's a hazard for con hazard and we've covered this. I mean, every time you've got no patients for the for complaining about bad bunker, which lies. That's not that's take that away.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Listen, I should not get up on, you know, my high chair and preach about being bitchy doing rounds of golf. I'm guilty. When, when boss not going in the hole, I get freaking bitchy. Like I, when he said that, I was like, dude, I've been there. I've totally been that guy that's just, you know, got another bad, like a bad ish break on top of, you know, not playing your best golf. And you just want to take it out on someone. But it wasn't the most likable moment for Scotty, if I will say. It's just crazy. Scotty was 79th in the field and putting round one third and round two. 55th and round three 70th and round four. He shot, he shot 70 today, losing 2.6 strokes to the field and make any bucks and he was he was first off the T and
Starting point is 01:04:08 fourth in approaching the green today. You're stuffing it and he couldn't make fucking anything on the ground. Unbelievable. I had a I mean, shittys stuffed it on six and like you know to like 10 inches and just looked glumly and he's like oh like fuck can't miss that one. looked glumly and he's like, oh, like fuck. Can't miss that one. Again, I've been, I've been, that got, that sounds a lot like me. You know, biggest man, just a, a biggest story of the week, I think we can all agree.
Starting point is 01:04:34 And you know, I hate to see him falling back with a 72, 73 on the weekend. Big text. Big text, Jimmy Walker, T25 finish. 10 time major champion, as you'd be led to believe by a telecast this week with, you know, a fan favorite. Somebody started crying.
Starting point is 01:04:47 So many fun. A story of redemption, guys. You know, that's, that is just, it's just that true American story right there. So many fun. I thought about a shitty attitude. Like someone who had a shitty attitude for years on end there and then they're lauding him for not, not complaining and not, and it's like, dude, like we get it, man, like he's he's fought back so much adversity. He got to use his top 50 career
Starting point is 01:05:14 money list exemption this year and just just a brave story. I get it. He had like, he had Lyme disease. There's some adversity there, but also like, it's like, it's really what, like, it sounds very tough. Like, yeah, that part I don't want to make fun of. I'm not making fun of it at all. I'm just saying like, yes, that's part of the story, but also like, yeah, I guess credit to him for not mailing it in and retiring, but also like, they just lingered on it for a while.
Starting point is 01:05:43 I just thought everything was just over the top. It just felt weird like that. If you want to like play that up if he's in contention on Sunday, it's just like they went right to it on like Friday, Thursday and Friday. It's like, you know, there's a lot of golf left and sure enough like he kind of fell down the leaderboard and wasn't a factor on Sunday. So it just felt like a weird story to to a glom lawn too when it's like, yeah, the guy, you know, he's a professional golfer. Like, I hope he's back in the mix and clearly a very talented one. So it's it, but I don't know. They have it. I guess they've done that
Starting point is 01:06:13 a little bit with with Ricky, you know, that he's playing better this year. So it's been whenever he's like up towards the top of the leaderboard. It's like, oh, Ricky's back, you know, but Ricky's also one of the little more truly one of the most popular players in the entire game. Yeah, he might deserve it a little bit more, but it just felt like premature for them to go hard on the big tech stuff on Friday. Yeah, and yeah, like Jimmy always talking about like, oh, you know what? Like I just was miserable out here and like dude, like I get it yet some adversity, but like your attitudes on you, right? And like if you were miserable out here, like I'm happy that you're happy out on tour now, but like that's a choice as well to be miserable
Starting point is 01:06:49 and you know, all that. I had a couple. I'm sure about that major win if it even happened, T.C. as I know you've been on record for discussing. It's an alleged major. Neil, I wanted to give a little shine to Chez. Please. As well.
Starting point is 01:07:04 T11 for Chez. Big ass payday for Chez. $445,000. He's been in the wilderness a little bit to start the year off. So that's that's really good stuff. Of course, you know, of course, it favors ball strikers. Of course, Chez is going to be up there, you know, competing. That's what he does.
Starting point is 01:07:20 He competes. Taylor Moore continued his, his strong play. 13th in the FedEx cup, T11, homeless hubs kind of kind of faltered a little bit on the weekend. Bermuda burns playing well on Bermuda. We talked about Ram a little bit Ricky T15 Ricky's tied with my guy. Ricky's 25th Ricky's back FedEx cup, you know, as again, as we get into locking up that top 50 and exemption into all the designated events for next year that dude is playing some not outrageous golf, but just very, very solid high floor golf. Speaking of someone who's playing high floor golf, Tommy Fleetwood, T15 minus 11, well,
Starting point is 01:08:01 even part of the day, kind of peed her down. Could make any puts kind of a classic and a story for our guy, Tommy. You know what, Neil, he's unlucky. Sure. As Sally would say with he was 61st in putting today, unlucky. No, that's that's out of character for him. That's very him being 61st in putting feels like I've never seen that before on Sunday. That's not what the luck factor is here at all. I don't, I don't, don't do this. T. TC. You don't want this, you don't want this heat. I also want to give a shout out to Carson Young. Shout out to, to Finnow and Fleetwood. I, you're one of my fair players.
Starting point is 01:08:32 I love you and I love rooting for you and I root for you at all times. This, any hate that goes towards Fleetwood is directed strictly and solely at TC. That is just, I want that stated for the record. Carson Young, friend of the program, T19, pretty good year. He's inside the top 125. Matt Koocher booked his top 20. He's like, I said on our preview show this week, he's like a utility or like a railroad stock.
Starting point is 01:08:56 He just does it. JT made the cut, all 66 and the fun around this week. You know, kind of a shop maker. I'd like to see JT win this tournament at some point. I think that would be an interesting deal. I think that's all I've got. That's, that's easy. Well, again, track again, JT is not at risk of not being in the designated events because of his OWGR ranking, but 65th and FedEx cup as we are, you know, over halfway through the PGA tour season again, just worth following. He just has not, has not stuff the pinata has not had high finishes. It's not been horrible golf. It's just been very mediocre.
Starting point is 01:09:27 He's back right in the mules. He's he's in the pellet. I fell fell back in the peloton with all the mules. It seemed it seemed like a lot of the mules fell back this weekend. There were there were quite a few mules up there on the leaderboard and you know, he's kind of peered out. So that's how pretty much all the designated events have gone. Really, you know, I mean, it's, you know, the, I guess with Kurt Kidiama winning, I don't know if he's, he's not quite mule tear. Is he a mini horse, mini pony, Neil, probably? I would say he's definitely firmly in that mini pony, like second tier, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:59 some people, I think it was drafting horses. Some people were saying, you know, like they're not the thoroughbreds, but they're kind of Cody, I might need was drafting horses. Some people were saying, you know, like they're not the thoroughbreds, but they're kind of Cody. I might need Cody to chime in here. He's our resident horse expert. But I don't know. He's not coming in. He doesn't want the smoke.
Starting point is 01:10:14 He doesn't want. There he is. I'm continuing my moment of silence for Jimmy Walker right now. Okay. I'm still a little bit bothered. Jimmy's here for a while. We will. This is horse talk.
Starting point is 01:10:23 So I'd have to call up Aaron right now too. To get it done. Don't. Don to call up Aaron Ray now to get it. Don't who are not even go out there? Nope. Nope. Nope. Will Sal Taurus out with back surgery will miss the remainder of the season. That is a tough blow for Will tough blow for the US Radar Cup team. We'll we'll be doing some Radar Cup segments here in the future. And what's the what's the timeline on a microdice? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:47 He says he's already reaped the benefits of it. It already feels better, but I think it's a total wash in the season, and I'm guessing January would be when that's back, but good to have it addressed and not have it linger if that is the case, but yeah, it's a tough scene. The only thing that I have to add on it is any concern that like a week prior,
Starting point is 01:11:03 he's like, I am like almost a hundred percent We are good to go and then immediately like less than week later is like I'm done Like did a new appointment is he does get dial up somebody and like oh we got you in for next week He's like oh shit. Well, I just made these comments. You can't wait till August now. It's not good. That's all I know I couldn't Couldn't tell you. That's all you even you've been parroting that line a lot lately. It's not good. Do you see? I don't I don't support it. It's not every time something bad happens on American. You want me to apologize. I don't support like I don't support any bad things that happen on the airlines. Not good. Don't love it. This one was for you Neil at Chapp Todd said, well, you issue a formal
Starting point is 01:11:42 apologize formal thank you to live for forcing RBC to get rid of the DJ commercial and make a new one because we've been hard on that one in the past. Yes. You know, I kind of maybe Stockholm center missed it. I mean, the new one that they started running is just I can't really make fun of it. It's very stock. I do want to get the telecast to shout out though. I thought that was a fantastic day with CBS. I feel like they're firing on all cylinders. Trevor's fitting in really well. We already knew that after Augusta, I think Nance has some renewed energy in
Starting point is 01:12:11 the booth working with a new partner. And I feel like, you know, Doddy's been great and the camera angles they got, they layin' out on caddy conversations, the commercial load feels manageable. And then bring in ramen. I thought that was a really nice touch. Like, you know, did he do some crazy, you know, analysis? No, but it's just nice to get like real-time feedback from the number one golfer in the world on how he would play shots that these guys are playing and what he thinks of, can't lay and what he thinks of speed's game.
Starting point is 01:12:40 It's just, you know, it's fun to listen to. And it's a change-up for you when you're watching the coverage. So shout out to CBS. I thought they did an excellent job today. I said that at Bay Hill, I literally, Tweedles, like, this would be a great Sunday. Ram's off the golf course. He's number one player in the world. Like, this would be a great time to bring him in the booth. I know he's shown interest in wanting to do this. Like, this is what, again, part of the reason we've been excited about this designated event model is like the light bulb has gone off for these guys. We got to dance a little bit.
Starting point is 01:13:07 We got to entertain people. We got to do some additive stuff that makes people interested in our sport. The walkin' talks and something like this is, again, it makes it, what, 10, 15% better. It's not like, nothing's going viral from what John did in the booth. It wasn't amazing. He didn't have incredible insight. It's just engaging. It just like makes you feel like not being the mark while watching PGA Tour Golf on television,
Starting point is 01:13:29 which again, as of not that many years ago, I felt like a fucking mark every time I watched one of these events. And now I just feel like I'm treated with some respect. It feels worth my time to watch. I think there, I have been said, look, all right, with full swing, like you're going to have an opportunity to entertain a brand new set of fans. And I feel like they're getting the commercial loads a problem, but they are taking that obligation a lot more seriously and the whole golf road's better off for it.
Starting point is 01:13:55 So, amen. No, it feels like we're not the only ones that are invested. Yeah. You know, right? Like, well, and they, it just seems like good energy. Everybody seems to get along on the telecast, not that they didn't when Fowdo was around, but it just kind of looser. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Yeah. It feels looser. And I think Cole has something to do with that. You know, he's, you know, whether you like him or not, he drops in a good singer here and there. And it just feels like they have a good chemistry going. I also saw I just want to confer. Are you taking credit for the ROM interview or for the for the rom analysis?
Starting point is 01:14:27 I literally tweeted that on like May on March 5th, I literally said, bring rom in the booth right now. It's being credit everyone responded. Zero percent chance that would ever happen. He would never do that. All these guys want to all he want to do is leave town. I'm like, no, no, like, rom would do this. He would do this and be really good at it. Please, please credit the no laying it up. Twitter account. That's right. Why would I not take credit? I'm such a stud, man. Like who would have seen this coming from it's like he just continues to impress and do endearing positive thoughtful stuff over and over and over again. Like it's really cool. I like the guy. He's the best.
Starting point is 01:15:05 I think it is carried for golf fans maybe a bit too much. Just his, his still very strong tendency to just let out a very big, just walking off, walking off a greed, which he will still very much do. But I love Rob. He's the best. But now like even that becomes endearing.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Yeah, it's funnier now. You know, you're just getting it like, yo, I just got to get it out, man. It's very relatable. Um, I think some more, some more content with Ram is, is hopefully in the cards, but DC, when it gives a little preview of some of the pairings, some of the highlight pairings reserved next week. Yeah, I'd love to. Uh, we got to Fitzpatrick, bros.
Starting point is 01:15:44 I think that, that's pretty cool.. Alex kind of a newly minted pro here over the last year or two playing with his brother. Kalamora Kawa Max Holma playing together. Siwu and Tom Kim playing together. Sam Burns and Billy Horshaw as we found out in the full swing documentary, you know, very close friends. Of course, can't lay in Shoffley or defending. Gosh, who else we got? We got Tyler Duncan and Hank Lebiota, the the the nockety team from Northeast Florida here.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Hermi and Ryan Armor to to Ohio guys, couple mules team. Team the pack. Luke list, Henrik Norlander, a couple of noted Augusta. God, those are like those guys are mules. Those are team. I'm not. The pack. Luke list. Henrik Norlander. A couple of noted Augusta. God, those are like those guys are mules. Those are two oxen right there.
Starting point is 01:16:30 They've got the the yoke over them. Just ready to pull some shit. We got strepper and the profit. Troy Merritt. Oh, yeah. Playing together. Two of the just worst, worst dress people on tour. Not anymore. Not anymore for Troy Merritt. He's a rowback guy now. Come on. That's easy. You switch, really? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow. God expects some party boy patterns. I have not seen his
Starting point is 01:16:54 new fit. Uh, we've got Michael Thompson and Perez, a mean, uh, playing together. Cody, any, anything to add on Perez, a mean, just generally? Just generally, I think he's a former military guy, right? He is. Yeah, certain was in the Navy and an army for a long, long time. I know Poresha very well. You're goading me into San Sam, right now, TCM. I'm not going to do it though. I like seeing all veterans get opportunities out there.
Starting point is 01:17:24 This is clearly a big take your kid to school day. So hopefully he capitalizes on it, but all in all, he's like 42 years old, tried to turn pro after retiring and has horrible results on G pro and everything else like that. Like really, really, really bad. So we'll see how this goes. Brentley, Rowline tweets that he's 43-year-old sponsor of I just played 26G pro tour events the last three years with no made cuts. Shot 42 over for four days at Canada,
Starting point is 01:17:52 Canada, Q school this year. That's tough. That's tough. I would, that's bad. And you know what, if you wanna take a veteran to work, Michael, then like call up Kyle Westmoreland or Tom Whitney was finished sixth on the corn fairy tour this week. Call him up. He's playing great golf Is that how it works? Can these guys can one of the pro's just pick whoever they want?
Starting point is 01:18:17 I think so. I'm sure he like, is it kind of like a sponsor? Isn't he a sponsor invite this week too? I don't think so. I think he's probably in as a past champ. As long as you're a pro golfer, you can be like, hey, I'm going to pick. I have my if you I think as long as you're not a guy. Michael Thompson out of mule. I mean, he's one of few times, right? He's like a he's like a Clyde still.
Starting point is 01:18:43 Okay. I honestly think Michael Thompson's like a big gun guy down at C Island and Perez is another gun guy. I think this is what they they buy off of in the free time when they're not hitting the range up down there. So Michael Thompson finished one 36th and oh, sorry, he's one 36 in the FedEx cup this year. Did he win last year? It was that the year before he won the 2019. He won the 2023 M open. That was three years ago. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Yeah. Yeah. The false schedule was announced. Hold on. I got a couple of other teams. Sally. Damn it. Another down. I walked my chair.
Starting point is 01:19:21 This is my fault. Got some C.I.L. and Mafia guys. The captains are playing together. Zach Johnson and Steve Stricker. No, I thought you were going to say Zach Johnson Luke Donnell's like, Randy's got to hate this. Show some competitive balls guys. Come out. A big text Jimmy Walker playing with assistant DA points. The honorable assistant a lot of all system DA. Oh, listen, and Hoigard and a Danish team. All right, come on, T.C. I'm a special, you know, Ryder Cup team there.
Starting point is 01:19:50 John Daly and David Duval. Hell yeah. It's playing. I mean, they are already in the tournament. Yeah, this offense should rule. It really should rule. And I don't know why it doesn't.
Starting point is 01:20:01 It's not designated. So yet, you know what, you can do whatever the hell you want this week. I think that's great. I'm taking the week off. It's great. Ryan Palmer and Scott Pierci, Ryan Palmer taking a distinct downgrade from his last few partners. Right? Terrified to do any jokes live on that pairing.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Saw it and Justin saw. I think that's going to be a pretty, pretty dangerous team. They're Justin didn't play play well this weekend, but I think that's about it. Smow and Higgs, man, the pride of eternity for us comes from. Smow and Higgs, of course. Matthias Schwab, Vincent Norman, another potential. All right. So I want to say about the fall schedule.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Zach Blair and Marty Doe, the Doe boy, and I'm going to mute you. I'm going to mute you, TC. We're done with the teams for next week. All right. So the fall schedules announced the top 10, you know, the top 10 and the, what's called
Starting point is 01:20:52 being called the FedEx Cup Fall. God, a missed opportunity to include mules in this. Like this is the mule championship, right? The FedEx Cup Fall. If you finish in the top 10 in the, in the fall, the top 10 that are not otherwise eligible, get into the first designated events after the century. Looks like there's a fun little, like totally optional viewing schedule for this fall. It's, you know, not probably not as many big names showing up for it, but a ton of reshuffling to play for within. So I'm not going to get into
Starting point is 01:21:21 all the details of it. Ryan French at Monday Q info tweeted out all the info for it. We retweet it. It's on our timeline as well. But any idea, how big the, how big the fields are going to be for like the full field events, like like the Bermuda say or Shriners or Sanderson, because like, I don't know how they're going to fill these fields out with more than like 125 guys. Don't know the answer to that. Still, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:47 We should workshop it though. Like Fed, instead of FedEx Cupfall season, it should be like Fall Trail or like, you know, something mule, related to mules, I don't know. Like the, the, the, we'll work on the workshop. We'll think about, we'll come back to that. We'll come back to you on that one. So, yeah, we're not gonna the working. We'll think come back. We'll come back to that. We'll come back to you on that
Starting point is 01:22:05 one. So yeah, we're not going to break down all the details of it, but it's, it's, uh, it's good that they're separating out and not starting the new season this fall. That's a good one. Dom Dennoway. Juan Valdese false wing brought
Starting point is 01:22:16 to you by FedEx. We asked long ago if there are any, any companies with mules in their logo and Juan Valdese is, is, is, is it? Is it called? Valdez? Valdez is, is, is it, is it, is it about Desi Valdez? You know, I can't pronounce anything. So it's probably Valdez. Wilberg going me.
Starting point is 01:22:32 I mean, it's a default that I pronounce things wrong. So I think it's the fall hall. That's good. Presented by FedEx. TC, why don't you take us to the low-tay championship in Hawaii? Oh my gosh. I would love to. It played a lot harder than it has in past years. This is of course the LPGA event in Hawaii up at A.W.A.
Starting point is 01:22:52 Beach. Ernie L.S. design course up there. Watch quite a bit of it. It was a Saturday night finish. I was a Wednesday to Saturday tournament to allow the ladies enough time to fly from Hawaii to Houston for this week. Chevron championship, the first major of the ladies schedule this year in Houston. Which, in Houston. How many of these people that are playing in the major were in this, this was not, this was a mule LPGA event. Usually like almost every event looks like a designated
Starting point is 01:23:20 event. And I was like looking for some top names. And not a lot of people showed for this one. Which is. Yeah, there was, I mean, it was, it was tough. There were, you know, Nasa Hataoka and Selene and Rick Henderson. Few other Georgia Hall continued her run of great play. But yeah, Grace Kim wanted to play off. Um, she was nails. Like she, she birded her last two holes to get into the playoff
Starting point is 01:23:41 and then made a, like a very routine birdie kind of pushed her t her her second shot. It was part five, kind of a little bit farther right than she would have wanted, but the other two ladies made a mess in the playoff Yulu and you John Eugene sung. And yeah, Grace Kim, she had a standout amateur career in Australia, graduated off the Epson Tour last year. She seems delightful. So very excited to see her plan well. Linya Strom played well. Yeah, Georgia Hall, like she's been in Fuego. She was T6 this week kind of cooled off on the weekend a little bit. I don't know, overall, like kind of a kind of a weird event in general. Like it always just feels kind of taped on to the LPGA Tour schedule. You know, they've got a big, big run coming up with Chevron Wilshire with God, they've got the founders
Starting point is 01:24:31 cup. They've got all sorts of like great, great tournaments coming up. So we've got plenty of great LPGA content coming this week too. We got an LPGA Chevron challenge. It was a Chevron championship now. What's it called? Chevron championship. Yeah. It is still the now. What's it called? Chevron Championship. Yeah. It is still the, but formally was the Dynastore, the major that was out the A&A inspiration. There has many different names that was held out West and Palm Springs is now held in Houston.
Starting point is 01:24:57 We'll have a preview of that kind of, we have an also an interview coming up with Daniel Kang coming out Thursday and then our preview episode I believe is going to be out Tuesday this week. So, uh, major championship season starting on the LPGA tour, which I'm holding out. I, I'm holding out for on judgment on the Chevron until, uh, well, I'm curious to see how this week goes because I'm wondering if we're, if we're giving a free pass on, on major championships. We, we've been hard on the avion and I need the Chevron.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Maybe it's not a major. Right. I need the, I need the Chevron here to have an identity. And I'm hoping it does. And I don't know what it is yet. We talked a lot about that on the preview pod, right? Cody. Yep. I'm look preview pod covers all of that. What the course is, who's perfect. You know, what they've been doing. I think they're doing a lot. The club and the membership is doing a ton. Chevron obviously is like a six year commitment, but five years here at this location in Houston,
Starting point is 01:25:45 cover it all on Tuesday. Like you said, Thursday we got Danielle interview that you did and then Friday, if you like your live shows, you will get your live shows. For the first time ever, we're doing a live show after the Friday evening conclusion of the telecast right here on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Love it. And I think, Sali, it's a, it's a Mr. Nicholas design. They have a Mr. Nicholas and a Mr. Fosio design there. Seems like it's pretty long, a lot of elevated greens, a lot of quadruple stuff, but a lot of short grass around greens as well, which we liked from this week at Harbor Town for sure. So it'll be interesting to see how they set it up for the ladies.
Starting point is 01:26:24 Mr. Nicholas is getting some, some love for taking part in the Harbor Town for sure. So it'll be interesting to see how they set it up for the ladies. Mr. Nicholas is getting some love for taking part in the Harbor Town design. What do you guys think about this idea? If they had, you could just do it one year, just as a trial. You do an eight round tournament, but it's spread out over two different weeks. So like you play Harbor Town and then you play Memorial.
Starting point is 01:26:44 They're both at the same, and they're same time slots that they usually are, but you just combine the results. So Harbour Town is the first four rounds. You get some Memorial eight weeks later or whatever. And, you know, wouldn't that be interesting? Let me stop right there. We don't care. That's a horrible idea. We'll let you get that out there. I was like, I answered it to a question. No one was asking. Nobody's asking that. But that's interesting. Thank you for that.
Starting point is 01:27:10 I'm asking. Helmsman, we're close to wrapping up, but I know you want to talk corn fairy tours. Yeah. Well, let's, well, let you take a victory lap here at TC with your boy. I do. Yeah. Corn fairy tour, Spencer Levine won, guys, his first win in a, in a PGA tour sanctioned event in his career It's amazing. 18 years 18 years like 350 events going to Monday Q info
Starting point is 01:27:32 We finally got it done. I'm just I'm I'm over the moon. He shots a bogey free 63 today And he's still using the happy Gilmore putter. It's amazing. It's incredible. It's He is like I was talking, I was texting with Alex Baldwin, the cornferri tour president earlier, and I was just like, man, I'm so happy for Spencer, I'm so happy for the cornferri tour.
Starting point is 01:27:54 So happy for us, because we get to potentially see him on the PJ tour next year. That's amazing. It's awesome. We need to have for Spencer, at least a trap draw, check in or something.
Starting point is 01:28:04 He's just seems like he's, he's just in a great place in his life now. And I don't know. I'm thrilled. I'm over the moon for him. Another friend of the program, Rico Hoey, a play with him in a cornferrey toward Pro Am. God, this was like five or six years ago now. Great guy.
Starting point is 01:28:21 Solo second or sorry, solo third there. I think he's he's looking very promising to lock up his PGA tour card for next year as well. One of the best drivers of the golf ball like on the planet. So back to back Eagles today, nine and 10. How about that in Texas. Cody, did you get there at all to the tournament? No, had too much stuff going on. Little one turn four. Happy birthday to her. I missed the the cake and candles for this show, but we'll make up for it later on. But I unfortunately did not get out there
Starting point is 01:28:49 or recording all this LPGA content for next week, but I love where they play, Rangers. It's crazy like going out there and playing it and seeing how low these guys take it because when I go out there and play, I'm like, I don't see 63s and 64s like on the reg. It's nuts. Awesome to see spents win and TC any comments on this Dallas golf course. It's far and you know, it's better than
Starting point is 01:29:14 TPC Craig Ranch. You know, I appreciate you teeing me up there. Props to Cornfairy Tour for like going live on the 72nd hole too. They didn't use to do that. They're doing that now. They've gotten around the TV contracts. Like that's fantastic being able to at least see the last hole of a non televised event. One other thing I wanted to bring to you guys attention. Niels guy Russell Wilson allegedly flipped a golf car. I thought you always do that. It's just slander. He hit for the cycle tonight. This has been impressive.
Starting point is 01:29:46 What is it? No, it's not. Mr. Unlimited is not my boy, T.C. That is untrue. So let's strike that from the record. Anyway, Russell Wilson flipped a golf card out at Arrowhead into a bunker. It looked like allegedly.
Starting point is 01:30:00 This is from the internet. So who knows if it's if it's true, but hate seeing that from from Mr. Unlimited. We all do. We all he honestly hate seeing everything from Mr. Unlimited. I do. Yeah. Shit, I mean, I think I had an office in the upstairs like in like next sort of the coaches. He's had his tough run the last 12 months. Things, it seems to be people who've catched up to his, his BS. Yeah. Sully, I also want to say,
Starting point is 01:30:30 I went to a baseball game last week. First baseball game I've been to in like, in years, like four, five, six years. The designated hitter thing is a disgrace. Oh, it's terrible. Go into a nationally game, went to the Reds Braves game. Braves hit a walkoff.
Starting point is 01:30:46 I was rooting for the Reds. Freddie was rooting for the Braves. All right, folks. Thank you, everyone, for tuning in. But I will say the pace of play was great. It was like a two hour and 15 minute ballgame. But I love the pitch clock. I just hate the DH.
Starting point is 01:31:02 There's no strategy anymore. TCC's a huge Savannah bananas guy. Yeah. Big time. Loves those big talks. Big entertainment. We got three. Successions coming on. Can't wait. Good good stuff tonight. Let's do it. I wanted to shut this down before succession. I'm glad you said that, Neil. But thank you, everyone for tuning in. Cody, thank you. We talk about we got housekeeping. Oh, we do.
Starting point is 01:31:22 That's right. I almost kicked us out. Well, three minutes. Come on. I'll say this. I'll make it quick. Basically, we made a big NIT announcement. So the next invitational tournament, that is our championship event. We will be going to Omni, Frisco, Frisco, Resort and Frisco, Texas, November, second, through Saturday, November, fourth. Again, this is our championship event. It's a season ending invitational. And there's opportunities to qualify for it throughout the year. So go to events.nolangup.com. If you want to get in on this big, I don't know, big celebration really. It's kind of the one time all of us get together. You know, the N community, partners, friends of the program, we save a few golden tickets for people,
Starting point is 01:32:09 but it is an event you qualify for and there's over 30 opportunities to qualify throughout the US and the UK, Canada. So go check out events.nolangup.com, but we're really pumped to take the event to basically a championship golf course, a future major venue, two courses there, and we'll play a lot of golf. Everybody gets three rounds at least, and then a championship, eight people from each
Starting point is 01:32:35 flight, dueling it out for the championship. It's a ton of fun. So this will be what the fourth year of it? Yeah. Yeah. So we're going to the Plex, go on to the Plex man. I still need a hotel room. It's just because it's in my city. It's on the other side of the city. So this goes wild. You can help you with that. So long way
Starting point is 01:32:52 up there. We can help you with that. They do have it. They have an Omni property there. So check out events.nolangu.com. Plenty more information on not only the NIT, but how to how to qualify for it. And listen, just get involved in all the events we got going on in the NAST and ROOSE community can find out more at events.nolangup.com. That's all I got. Love it. Thank you, everyone, for tuning in, Cody. Sorry, I had to miss the birthday candles and all of that,
Starting point is 01:33:20 but thank you for running the ones and twos. TC, Neil, all listeners, all the viewers. Sorry, we couldn't be live on Twitter. I hope they get that figured out. Very disappointed in that, but we will be back this coming weekend with more live shows, as mentioned, for the Chevron Championship. Thanks for joining us. And I'm going to use that Jim Coons here. Broncos Country. Let's ride as as our sign off tonight. We can fix slow play folks. Come on. We can fix it. We're done.
Starting point is 01:33:45 Good night. We're going to write club. Be the right club today. Yes. Be ready. That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most.
Starting point is 01:33:59 Better than most. That are the most.

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