No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 68: Tron Carter

Episode Date: February 28, 2017

Tron Carter joins the podcast to chat about Rickie’s recent win, what we think of him, Jason Day’s WD, Bryson’s delicate genius-ness, white belts, and a lot more. Thanks a ton for all the listener... The post NLU Podcast, Episode 68: Tron Carter appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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For the first time as a father, Tron Carter, he's fired up to get out. You ready to go? I'm ready, Sully. Oh man, I'm ready. One of those days, man. Are we gonna spar a little bit on the Richthater? I think we kind of are. We might. I'm fired up today, dude. It's been, it's been one of those days, woke up. Actually, really didn't even wake up.

Kid was screaming all night. Just not getting enough milk, I guess. And then we get, you know, my coffee machine broke this morning. I went and did taxes at lunch. My favorite taco place closed. You need release, you need a release. And then I've been doing expense reports all afternoon. So I'm just like, oh my god.

It's boiling over at the bit. All right, let's do it. Ricky, I don't, I think we, you said it today best on Twitter. We're kind of like me you and randy are spread out across the spectrum i've been fluffing him uh... for a solid three years now actually randles on the other end of the spectrum where do you lie on the spectrum for ricky father

uh... i'm kind of agnostic you know i'm just i don't know what that word means actually had to google that today i saw you type that i don't know what that means it's like uh... it's kind of like how speed is with pop. He's like post pop. Like I'm like post Ricky. Like it's, he, like, speed neither possesses nor lax pop. Like Ricky, neither, like I neither like him nor hate him.

I'm just kind of whatever. Like I acknowledge the fact that he exists, but he needs to show me more So you're just like truly objective on on Ricky's like I understand where Randy's coming from I mean, I think he's he's as harsh as anybody on him But not like in a mean spirited way. It's just like hey man. He's he's the most probably you know if not the Most probably top three most promoted dudes on tour, you know, outside of cat and, you know, is that necessarily right or deserve maybe not, you know, probably not,

but but then again, like that's just Ricky being smart and having good endorsements and all that. So, you know, I'm not really going to hold that against him. But then I was just coming from too. So. That's where I kind of try my best to separate all these things out. Exactly what you just said though. Like he's very smart the way he's marketed himself. And I think Randy even said that, you know,

his Q rating may be higher than deserve for his actual play. But I think I just think, and I get that, if you want to hold him to where he's promoted at in the game compared to his resume, obviously he's never won a major. He's won four times by the age of 28 though. I think if you just separated out, some people I feel like try to make him out to be

kind of just this guy that doesn't win or can't win. I know that was the narrative before he won the players because he only had one win, and you know, and he'd been out on tour for five, I think that was his fifth or 60 year when he won the players. So I just, I don't know, I think like a guy, he's not like a guy that lingers in the mid 50s or so

in the in the World Golf rankings. And I know we have, we have plenty of issues in the World Golf rankings, but he's been a top 10, top 15, 20 player for a long time. Now, I know 14, he slid, he was weighed down, and then he had that major run. And then, I think he maybe even fell back down after, when did he switch to Butch?

I don't remember the timelines here. Uh, I want to say it was like 2014, or maybe before that winter winter after 2014 season. That was it. I think it was. Yeah, it was. It was. When we started the website, actually, it's when he switched because then he had the 2014

season. Yeah. So I don't know. Since then, he's been a serious world class player. I thought he got a really raw break to not win the farmers last year. You know, I just, I don't get the wrap on him not closing a, he's 0 for 4 on 54 whole leads going into this week. Since when do we care how a guy wins a tournament?

First of all, 50, that comes back to Tiger, right? Yeah, because 54 whole leads are converted at like a, I'd pulling this out of my ass, but like a 36% rate or something like that. I'm pretty sure I've seen before. So the fact that he's over four, it's not that large of a sample size. And I don't know, so you just like the other three wins that he came from behind on, don't count. Yeah, well, I don't know.

I just feel like people get upset about overexposure. Yeah. And it's something where I was sparring with, shimmy a little bit about this earlier It's like I don't even like I don't even have this strong opinion whether he's elite or not I don't think he is you know, but like I only think there's like two guys in the world that are elite or three guys in the world that are elite right now But like I like the fact that we have to have that entire conversation Every time he does something is what bothers me.

Like, why can't we just say, all right, like Ricky won, he's playing well right now. Like, just leave it at that, you know. I'm with you. That's the frustrating thing. It's just, we just can beat the death with the, is so and so elite. Well, I don't know who cares, you know. Is he a elite player? Yeah.

Yeah. Exactly. I mean, yeah, he's not in the Rory DJ day, speed, category. He's not. That's why I put as much as I've a fan of Fowler, I pushed that narrative away as quickly as I possibly could when, you know, he won an Abu Dhabi last year and people were trying to say that it's a big four and all that stupid shit. But I think we, I thought we have successfully quelled that. I don't feel like

people are really trying to push that narrative right now, do you? I don't, I mean, but I think it's just residual because it got pushed so hard last year or two years ago that people have kind of weaned off of it. You know, it's, I mean, people are almost scared to cross that bridge. Like I was talking to DJ earlier, DJ Fahaski, he was saying how,

like he was making the argument that Phil Mikkelson is a lead. And I was like, I don't know, man, like, he tied her one more recently in Phil, right? Or if you said like the current, the current steps. Yeah, I mean, I guess I was thinking of it from the current mentality. Whereas DJ was like, no, man, just like you say like, speed is post pop, like, you know, or moneys like a post impressionist. It's like, Nicholson is like post elite. Like he would have won three or four times in the last couple of years if he really cared that much, but he would just rather, you know, do whatever. I don't know, that was his take, but I guess into the day, it's like, I just like watch these guys play golf. I'm not so concerned about who's elite and who's not.

I just want to know who has pop and who doesn't. Yeah, maybe I'm, it might be a straw man that I'm arguing or that I'm still like facing the critics are kind of trying to shut the critics up on foul at this point because I think, I think we at least kind of know where he is on the spectrum. And there's not really much argument on that. I don't think there's like a good comp for him. Or do you have a good comp for him? I think Arnold Palmer.

Man. I saw you say that. That was so repressive. I know I'm going to get just absolutely mad out of it. But I was compared to the 2000s tiger. So go ahead. But like Palmer never, I don't think he wanted his first major until he was like 28 or 29.

Granted, he, is that right? He didn't, well, he didn't turn Pro to, he was like 24. He didn't win one after 32 though, so. He thanked a bunch of them though, like right in between. Hold on. Just pounded in the laptop. Yeah, I'm pretty sure you won one younger than that, but.

All right, it was born in 1929, and his first major was 58. 58, so he was 28 at that time in April of 28, or in April of, I want all of his majors between 1958 and 1964. That's pretty you guys actually pretty amazing. Yeah. Yeah, he won three four five seven. Yeah, he once said and then he had he had four top fives or four four top two finishes five top two finishes in those Or four top two finishes, five top two finishes in those from 1960 to 1964.

Which is clearly, Fowler's got a crazy long way to go to getting that category. But I mean, I meant like in today's game, there's not like a player that, and he's just kind of a unique player in what we just talked about about the marketability, the curating, the popularity,

and where that stands as far as a game comparison. But like, are you taking, like, Fowler or Justin Rose? I don't wanna say going for it because Rose is much older, but like the next two seasons, who would you rather have Justin Rose or Ricky Fowler? It's not a good question to ask me. I'm not a Justin Rose guy. Well, I'm not as a fan, but as actual results results who's going to put out better results of the next two seasons Ricky I think

Roses, I mean, I'm not a big rose obviously not a big rose fan But like he put he like I produces like every single year I think if he if Ricky matches roses output for the next two seasons, that's a good two-year stretch Oh for sure. Yeah, I mean Rose won a major too I mean, I think And he's won some big time events to it big time courses. Yeah So okay, I think that covers Ricky. Or do you have anything left on that? No, I mean, I think you know overall It's just it just comes down to exposure, but it also like let's these like, we need to let these guys marinate a little bit, you know? I mean, DJ, look at DJ, everybody's on his nuts now,

but like I remember two years ago when people were saying, oh, he guy can't pot, he can't finish, like he'd won the rain short and pebble a couple of times, like, you know, he'd, like shit his pants at pebble one year in the US open in the final round. But like, the guy just didn't, didn't let it bug him. Just kept going back to the well. I think Ricky's the same way. You know, he seems like a pretty determined guy. So I don't, I don't, I just think it's tough to compare these guys historically too,

because there, there's just so much more depth out there now, you know. You're so right on that DJ, like go back to when I tweeted the photoshop of him holding the US Open Trophy before the US Open last year, the replies to that. Yeah. We're flaming. Like, oh, is it a 54-hole tournament or not a chance, he can't put it. And like now no one says any of those things about DJ. So you're exactly right that we just keep shifting and we kind of forget about all those stupid things

that not we, but people had said about those guys before they became super successful. So it just doesn't even, like, we don't even deserve DJ as a human race. Like he's how he announces the gender of his baby. No, I didn't see that. He had like a exploding golf ball in the beach or something and then hit it in this blue.

Was the first one a girl? No, they have a son. They have a son, okay. Sorry, yeah, I don't follow the personal life of DJ T2 Crusley. I try to keep the spirit of single pre-polling a DJ alive in my head There is enough to cover an entire podcast on that but

Tyrell Hattens spike mark blame the sauce performance on 17. Have we seen better performance art in this decade really? No, that was that was Monty asked. He owned it. He saw the video tweet and he owned it. So that was pretty special though. I was very impressed. I loved it. That's got to be spectacular. We've had a lot of sauce so far in the year.

The sauces this year are going to be highly, highly populated. Yeah. I think you might have to do a mid-year update. I might have to. Yeah. Like a primaries or something like that. Exactly. Yeah.

A caucus. A caucus. We should caucus. Speaking of downcock, Gary Woodland, I don't think you mentioned a few things to me this week. You don't seem to be the biggest fan of this guy. I like him a lot. He's so talented and obviously hits the shit out of it, but

Man like the guy is incapable of hitting a half shot. I Feel like his entire game is like an 80% shot now though I feel like he was the guy that was swinging out of his shoes that years ago and now he is 80% guy or maybe like or so Maybe he's like trying to saw you know, saw that 80% shot, choke down a little bit, but like, he still hits that full shot when he should just hit. You know, it's like he, he looks totally lost when he has to hit, you know, like a half shot or a 3-4 shot when, like, it's always like, he always swings the same speed to me.

And he just seems so mechanical. Do the numbers support this or are you going to get chirped at for this? Oh, definitely. I get chirped at for everything. I mean, it's part of the field player though. I know what I see, you know, you don't need the specific yardages. You're going off field. I don't know. I just, I mean, I was blown away yesterday, he was making some pots down the stretch,

like I always root for him and then sure enough, like, you know, he missed a couple of pots on those last few holes and then going into 18, he just butchered that, that, you know, layup. Yeah. You're onto something, approaches from 50 to 125 yards, he's 164th, I mean, this is like 35 attempts on the season, so it's kind of a small sample.

But, and then you get him further away from 125 to 150, he's eighth, and then 60th, and you know. I was just straight up Venice with his long arms and his driver, but it is, you know. Yeah, I just feel like you can't, you get him inside 120, I mean, it's kind of like my game. I mean, you get me inside 120 yards, and I feel like I swing with my hands around my neck So that's the best comp I could have come up with for Gary Woodland's game is drawn. That's what I was going for

He's 20th and strokes game putting so far this year again. These are that's 15 measured rounds But that that's the biggest difference for me. He does look like a robot standing over a putt. He looks so uncomfortable. I don't know how he makes putts because he just, he looks like he's about to squat about 600 pounds off the rack. He is a specimen. Yeah, I mean, he's a friend. He is like post pop, whatever you want to call it. Like he was the man in 2011. He was the young guy that came out that was Absolutely bomb in the ball. I remember the 2010 US open. I was there on that Friday at Pebble and on the second hole It was a par five and it was downwind, but he hit I well I never heard of this guy He teed off and just hit the sound of that ball coming off that driver

But both my dad and my friend that we were with, oh the Colonel. We were like, look who is this guy? We followed him down that hole, he had sand wedge into that par-five that day. And that's what Gary Woodland got on my radar. And then he won in 11 and then just kind of disappeared there for a while. So I don't really know what to make him at this point. He's kind of the pre-no-lang update is like bomber young fan, fanboy of mine. So it's always disappointing when you see him in person though because I feel like he looks so big on TV. Like I mean I swear to God that he looks like he's six three or six four on TV and he's seen him in person and he's not that tall. He just kind of stacked, you know?

I can't tell if he's like jacked or if he's kind of dad bodish. I can't really figure that out. Oh, I think he's jacked. I think he's, and then he's like the precursor to the Justin Thomas' Jordan Spees friend thing where like every time they showed him for those first three years or so, he was like, oh Gary Woodland Like played coach basketball. I Swear to God that the cheat sheets on these guys is like three lines long if that and they don't go pass line one

It's unbeatable. Yeah, I don't think it goes beyond line two for anybody. Oh, it's unbelievable I mean, thank God the PJ toward live guys at least like you know They cover a guy for 18 holes They go deeper than that But man when they come on the main network TV screens. It's just it's absolutely unbelievable. You know DJ can dunk a basketball They were watching PJ Tort Live on Thursday Friday Craig Perks was on and He and whoever was was doing the the lead on it They went into a college football discussion for like 20 minutes

It was better. It was it was almost better insight than anything. I've heard on ESPN of late Like those guys they know their stuff on there and not just golf which the pace of that is just so good like those guys Yeah, you're kind of I honestly just opened up in a win-win and I'm listening to it while at work and not really even watching it. And it's just kind of soothing. Like, you know, you don't need to be watching every shot on the screen. They're telling you what's going on. And we agree. We were going to give them any more free promotion, but apparently we can't resist ourselves.

But. Yeah, it's like the best, the best qualities of European tour coverage and PGA tour action. Yeah, put it up there. Yeah, and then you just, when you get into that CBS broadcast, it just makes it that, it makes it that much more painful. It really does. Did you listen to the U-line podcast yet? I haven't fired it up yet.

It's been- He tried to bait me into, he said something like, you know, I just like to sit back and watch a CBS broadcast. Like, he was totally in on it. So, To tell his dad, it to stop spending so much money with him. Yeah, that's a good point. That's a fair point. All right.

Speaking of telecast, the, uh, the, uh, I was really disappointed. So NBC was great on Saturday. Yeah. And then they just, man, Sunday was, that was painfully usher day. They lost it Yeah, it was the Jack thing was horrible timing lasted 45 minutes. It was unbelievable You nailed it. They asked him for it. They asked about the ice cream of course Oh God yeah, it was it was I do you have those stats that Kevin Jackson tweeted in front of you

I mean I know we we need to and I think you're working on something like this Yeah accumulating on what the how the stats compare like across an NBC versus CBS broadcast But yeah, I'm gonna get the Toshwan a open this weekend too on the Euro tour try to chart some of this Wow, it's gonna just blow the PGA tour shots out of the water But I saw somebody respond to that tweet too saying, like, yeah, when there's only two guys that have a chance to win, of course, they're gonna show less golf. Like, I don't buy into that at all.

Like, you can. Yeah, I totally disagree with that. You can tell, you can absolutely, like, what's his name? Chad Collins. I mean, I'm not pining to see Chad Collins shots on television, but he finished fourth, and he had like two shots shown.

Like, I don't, again, that's usually a criticism that we direct in CBS's in CBS's direction, but yeah, little disappointed with Sunday NBC, but it's so much it's so good to have them back. I feel like they do such a better job of presenting the drama. And maybe that's just yeah, Johnny Miller factor, but um, um, Johnny was salty yesterday, huh? What was that, man? The extra salty. I embrace. I do. Like I like to make fun of Johnny, but I think he's like the best So what was that about you know Ricky not winning that in style not to go back on Ricky, but what was that comment? I don't know. I mean, that was just totally over the top But it was like you you were there a couple of you know a couple years ago at

but it was like you were there a couple years ago at sawgrass, like that was about as stylish as I've ever seen anybody win. He won by four and like the course is playing hard. Like he should he be better than the field did on Sunday, which is all you need to do when you're going with a four shot lead in the final round. I thought that was really unfounded, but I mean for the most part Johnny does add add, I know a lot of people out there really dislike him. And I make, I'll go continue to make fun of him, but still love having him on the broadcast. And you didn't even mention me.

You made the point that like, Faraday seems to be like in a lot better rhythm now with NBC this year. For sure. Yeah, that was a big takeaway for me on Saturday that and just how sweet those that protracer graphic thing they've got is the 3D. Like, uh, that's awesome.

Yeah. It's gonna be good to see. I think they'll learn from Sunday. I think they saw some of the criticism. I think I'm not too worried about it, but yeah, Saturday was really good. All right, I've been just chomping at the bit to get to this one.

I think 99% of the listeners that downloaded this podcast are wanting to hear this take exactly right now. You can stretch out a bit if you want, but we want to hear it on the delicate genius, Bryson Deschenbo. I'm kind of coming full circle, man. I talked to a lot of people last week. Everybody kind of says the same thing. They say, everybody that knows him a little bit says he's not a bad dude

So Sometimes I feel bad for going in on him But like the guy just can't stay out of his own way like like like Bubba style, you know Like just whatever is the complete wrong thing to say he says it and then Like and then he nukes the usga like so he I guess puddings that are awful this year, right? And then he nukes the USGA. I guess putting stats are awful this year, right? And then he nukes the USGA, blames them for the putting woes when the side saddles obviously not working anyway.

And maybe that was part of it. He couldn't commit to it or whatever. He had some indecision in his head. But then he walks the USGA comments back and says we we're all, you know, part of a family. I'm like, dude, just like, if you're going to say that, like, I thought the USGA comments were probably pretty accurate. Like, but if you're going to say that, like, stand by it. You know, don't walk it back. Um, I don't know. My sense is that he's just, it's not helping his cause that going back to the exposure thing, that

we see him in that data commercial, every commercial break. He's talking about not laying up in the commercial. He's got to be sure about that. That's true. But yeah, I mean, that's not helping him out, but I feel like he's just, he's got a bunch of endorsements, there's a ton of pressure on him. And from what it sounds like, he's got a really young agent that sounds like Bob Schudger from from Jerry McGuire. So, you're not, you're not off on any of it. You mentioned the Bubba comp. I'm definitely not there as far as disdain for him yet, like is at the Bubba level. He came in as,

and for him yet, like at the bubble level. He came in as, he marketed himself as this quirky dude, right? So you gotta play well if you're gonna be this dude. Or else it's all gonna spiral on you. And I think it is spiraling on him a bit and he's kind of, maybe he's got too much of an ear to the media and to the criticism he's taking. But man, at least you were supposed to be the guy that matches, right?

I mean, that ball striking display he put on the masters and then subsequently at the heritage, like, I think I've put him in my fantasy lineup every chance I get just because of how, like, intrigued I was at that point. I really, I mean, it personality wise, I don't, there's not, like, that seemed to be a whole lot to like there, but I was intrigued by this guy. And, you know, I, at the time, like, it don't rush to judgment on this guy. And I completely overreacted and also maybe mentioned that I wanted him on the writer cup team at one point.

Yeah, but I feel like you, I don't know, I mean, you get so jolly with the writer. That's just standard procedure for me, really. So, um, but yeah, I mean, I feel like he's got, like, go back to your point about the master Masters last year, I followed him for like almost the whole practice on an Augusta, and I mean, I love his game. Like, he eats the hell out of the ball. I like his swing even. You know, a lot of people don't like his swing. I like his swing.

Just a matter of like, the other thing is, if you're gonna talk to the media and be this zany quirky guy all the time, like when things are going well and you're gonna embrace that the media and be this zany quirky guy all the time, like when things are going well and you're gonna embrace that, then when things aren't going well, you gotta, you gotta man up and talk to the media as well. You know, like I've heard multiple instances of him just, you know, as soon as somebody asks him about the putting,

he's like, no comment, not gonna talk about the putting. That's like, alright, come on man, it goes both ways, you know? It goes both ways. The thing is he was supposed to be the guy that things aren't supposed to go poorly because of this robotic motion that he basically invented, right? That was supposed to be, his swing was supposed to be the ultimate slumpbuster and really he's not, I mean, the putting has been awful this year,

but he's just been a mediocre, I mean, not mediocre. He's been like an average ball striker basically since he came out on tour. And I mean, for what, for, you know, being the US amateur champ, you know, that carries some weight and some notoriety that comes with it and the sponsorships and being so out there with all the things that he's talking about changing the game and all this stuff.

Like you're gonna, you're gonna feel the heat if you don't back it up with good play. So I don't feel that bad. I'm still still intrigued I still would love to have a conversation with the Guy about golf I don't I'm still I'm rooting for him. Are you like do you feel like you're I am too no I just want him to like you know I just want him to go weeny that's what I take I mean you know I'm kind of looking at it like I like I think there needs to be more variety on tour there needs to be more characters out there I'm all for. I just think the guy needs to

you know quit talking out of both sides of his mouth. Yeah, I don't want to get to it in the questions just yet, but we had a good one. Frank, Frank Villa floor said, what on your real take on him? Is it like a tough love thing with you kind of like the sea sweet with speed or do you have a genuine dislike for him? I think it's more of a genuine dislike. I feel like he's a well-actually guy. That well-actually guy on Twitter personified. Yeah, not a good look. All right, very fair. Bit of old news at this point,

but I do want to at least talk out loud about the whole Pat Perez big cat thing from last week Did this register for you? I mean like did you did it? You know Did you think that people overreacted to it? Did you think what he said was legitimate? What do you what you're overall take on that? I liked what PP said I agreed with pretty much all of it. I thought he was a little bit harsh. I mean obviously PP owns a bunch of tiger tax. A lot. Yeah, but you know, I mean, PP doesn't care about what people think. I don't think that's anything that anybody hasn't been sending in private.

And then I just want to know, my big question is how the guy is in Dubai got Tiger. Like what kind of dirt or what did they have to hold above Tiger's head to get him to fly it to Dubai on a commercial jet when like the guy can barely even stand up and then do a sit down interview with Peter Dawson over there. It was just that whole thing to me. It's just like there needs to be a 30 for 30 or something on that. Was it you that said, gave me, that mentioned something about a rumor about that, or where did I hear something about that? Yeah, I think, yeah, some people have said that, I mean, basically just saying the same

thing, like there's just, there's got to be something there. We're like, he owed somebody some sort of big-ass favor to get over there, you know? But I mean, think about that. That's, I mean, it's not like he went over there thinking that his back was in great shape and thinking that he can compete, you know? Yeah, it's all just doesn't add up.

He came from the moment he stepped on the first D. Yeah, the whole thing doesn't add up. You're right. And I wish I don't know. I don't have a take on what's going on with Tiger other than it's bad. It's it's it's it's it's it's really bad. It's bad. It's like the step brothers on the.

And then I'm so. It's so bad. Uh, no, I mean, I, I, I, I, I'm not to Not to I've not tweeted anything about this because I hate that that that guy that has some information but can't share it But I really do and it's it's not good. I mean, there's a reason why he missed, you know the press conference last week and why We haven't really heard from him in a while and it's it's really not good. So I'm kind of, I was excited for the comeback and it's just been, you know, it's not happening, but I'm not, that, I can kind of push it to the side and be fine with that just because of how good this season has really been so far. But I thought, I think that's my biggest frustration.

Is it just such a distraction? It's such a distraction unnecessarily so. And then, and then Steini makes it that much worse. And we have, we have JT, Hadecki, what DJ, Speed, Ricky, and Hudson Swafford win tournaments that should have I missed somebody, but that's pretty ridiculous first two months of the season. So it's not, I mean, first of all,

it's also, I think, is it a requirement to say when you talk about Tiger and his impact on the game, you have to say he's the needle, right? Like, that's the exact word you have to say at this point, right? He's the needle. I mean, are you suggesting PED? Do you see? Is that what, is that the underlying tone of everyone?

Every single person says he moves the needle. I mean, the guy, think about the guy moves the needle Why does everyone say the exact same phrase? I'm sure I've said it before but my god, it's unbelievable You even Perez in this statement said that exact thing, but yeah I just didn't get the people that can't like this such a lazy lazy take to be like who is paparez to have this opinion He has two wins Tigers got 79 like no who fed youaresto have this opinion? He has two wins. Tigers got 79, like, no who fed you. It's, I mean, it's accurate, but I mean, that doesn't mean that he's not right about what he said.

I mean, I get the tone. I get the kind of, yeah, like he, he's tiger of in front of a line. I know. They, they, they're on good, I mean, I have been, he was pretty effusive and is crazy for the first, you know, 20 or 30 seconds that he's talking. I didn't, I didn't have a problem

with anything he said. Again, it was probably a little bit harsh, but at the end of the day, I think somebody needed to say it because this has been a whole big charade that's been going on. And, you know, I mean, shit, after Dubai, like half the reporters that were over there basically called Mark Steinberg a liar. Right. Straight up. Who do you think's telling Mark Steinberg to lie? Tiger. Come on. Yeah.

So. Yeah, and it's 100% what guys, he's not alone in what he's, in what he's said. He's alone in saying it, but other guys are saying this as well privately. I know that for a fact. Yeah. It is. It's not a false to say it in public. Exactly. Yeah. So he did it, and I'm glad he did. I mean that for a fact. Like it yeah, it is it's not a lost certain public. Exactly. Yeah, so

He did it and I'm glad he did. I mean that sucks. He got that bad a backlash And yeah, I tweeted that you know make the tweet is quote along with effect this profile was deleted I wasn't didn't do any homework on when he deleted his profile I know I got a I got a I was told I would I will not be taken serious in the media Because if I didn't report on the time that one cut deep Because I didn't report on the timing of when Pat Perez deleted his Twitter account, but the God damn people it's unbelievable Mick rib is back this week at 7300 feet are we gonna see a 450 yard drive this week at seventy three hundred feet are we gonna see if four hundred fifty yard drive this week broadric make rib I hope so and I

really are to jump there I don't know I got to look that guy up that we had some guy emails from Mexico City let's see here club day golf dates up Holtapet beautiful place like sweet looks kind of old school makes me just one like a it opened in 1928 so Gentle bends one there before Jay Haas one there in 91 I don't I can't find much about the actual course. Is this gonna be in a preview? Like I know you just had a But I mean yeah, no, I'm gonna do a preview the people want the previews Well, and there's just so much to talk about like even without diving into politics like the fact that the tour

Move the derailleur From Trump's course in deraille to Mexico like that's hilarious That was like they literally outsourced the tournament to Mexico I think that was when Trump was about like a hundred to one to win the presidency. Like, I'm sure. But the fact that like that, that's, that's still like that happened. And now all of this has happened. Like, that's so rich.

I haven't said anything on this yet. Mostly because I was waiting for Rory to have his presser and we'll post this on Tuesday. So it'll be the day of Rory's presser. I assume he's going to get asked a lot about the round with Trump. But I forget where I saw a red and informal poll. Somebody said that 90% of tour players were pulled and asked if they would play with Trump

if given the opportunity. And they said yes. So where did you lie on the whole controversy that stem from Roy playing 18 holes a golf with Trump? Well, first of all, 90% of tour players are probably also like staunchly Republican. Accurate. That's kind of to my point. That's probably a low number, right?

I don't. That's where I, yeah, that's where I don't get where this criticism is, but I'm hardly objective on this topic. So I would probably. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't, a Roy's not even an American citizen. A, yeah. You know, B, I don't think, yeah, you know, the guy at the same time, I don't know. I don't, a, Roy's not even an American citizen. A, yeah.

You know, B, I don't think, yeah, you know, at the same time as President of the United States, he's, you know, I'm not trying to get into some political take here, but, you know, if, if Roy had a chance to have his ear and talk about shit that he wanted to talk about, why not? You know, I mean, that's, that's like, you know, I have an agenda like, I would play golf with Trump and I'd tell him,

hey, you need to outlaw white belts. You know, you need to, you know, you need to do this, this, this and this. But like, you know, that's shit that I would talk to him about. I would, you know, probably say some serious stuff too. But, you know, I don't think it's, I don't think it's ever a bad thing to open a conversation with someone. I guess this is my, what's, and that's where I don't think it's ever a bad thing to open a conversation with someone.

I guess is my... And that's where I don't get why people are looking to Rory for their political statements. You know, A, he's not a citizen. B, what did this change? Like, I know it's hard not to get really heavily political. But let's face it, Trump has come under a lot of criticism for a lot of things You know since being inaugurated et cetera. What did what did this change about anything? It's not like it's not like this was some big glorious moment for Trump if anything

It looked really badly on Trump because he is a it's lied about how much golf he was playing It's not like it would have been a bigger political statement if Roy said no to him for no real reason from his perspective. Like again, he's not an American citizen, he did not vote in this election. He has some kind of relationship with Trump. They've always been friendly from what I can gather and you get that experience to go play with a sitting president like come on, you're gonna take it and I mean why wouldn't you want to kind of like you said shoot the show with the guy on the golf course for a while and figure out what he's really about instead of just kind of the show that he's putting on

for the media yeah yeah so I mean I don't know I just don't get why why what Rory does has any influence on on your political beliefs or your understanding of politics or why that registers for anyone. I mean, I don't know. I think that's just asking way too much of the guy that for you, like just a fan or a media member or anyone to sit back and criticize him for, for, you know, going to go play around with one of the most powerful people on the planet, just because you want him to make a political statement out against it doesn't mean that it's something he's gonna act on.

And if nothing else, I mean Rory lives right on the street. That's exactly what happened. It was a last- Last planet thing. Like it wasn't like a planned thing. So I don't think he had a much time to think about it. I don't think he regrets it. I mean, I know he got a lot of crap for it, but I mean, yeah, it's kind of crazy week for last week. I will ride for the McRib on that one. Shout out to the way, how's his trip? Is his rib?

I feel good to go. He sounds good to go. He's been really like kind of soft spoken about the progress. Like it doesn't sound like he's been, you know, dialing up and ripping it, but he's a, he was effusive in saying that the, I'm trying to use your big vocabulary. I don't even know if I'm using effusive right, but he was adamant that this,

this week was a good week for him to come back from timing wise and he's never changed that. So I don't know, I don't have huge expectations for him in Mexico, but I think he wants to make sure he gets some reps in obviously before Augusta, but I just want to give a quick shout gets some reps in, obviously, before August it. But I just want to give a quick shout out to CNN for almost getting, uh, saying no laying upright, even the Anderson Cooper big shout out for, uh, we made it on CNN, but we got

called no laying it up, which close enough, you know, I mean, we got called a rounding error. But, uh, it sounds like Anderson Cooper needs to do a 180. Sorry, that was terrible. I'm going to be a guy. Club de golf trip, Polta Peck, 7267 yards. Part 72. So this might be...

Yeah, this might be... There's going to be a 58, a 1,400-par 58. I don't know. Absolutely nothing about the golf course. I've been in the yardage and the altitude that that's legitimately like That altitude it's like 20% isn't it? Yeah, it's like I think it's like Yeah, cuz what in Denver it's like seven or eight percent and then you add another I

In carado at like 15% 10 like okay. I don't know what it is actually Denver, but yeah 15% 10 like okay, I don't know what it is actually Denver, but yeah, yeah, that's fun I mean I've hit some like 220 yard aid iron such a that is that is really totally so with Neil and I went to Canada this summer Our last summer like for over a day for that wedding Up in Cranbrook Played a couple course players wild stone and then a couple other courses up there And like I didn't even realize till the third day, like I was flying the green on every approach shot. And it didn't even compute that. I don't even think we were at, we were like 4,000 feet.

But even that was... Reaching out all my irons. It makes a huge difference. All right, we made it 37 minutes before getting into your boy J. Day. Oh, all right. Do you want to just get the flame through our ready and go? How do you do this? I'm legitimately disappointed that he withdrew already.

I think you. I mean, you called it. That was pretty pretty epic. Yeah, but I wanted something better than a double ear infection slash the flu like I wanted Like I wanted altitude sickness or like narco terrorism or You know like something outside the box other than just I this is the fifth time He's used the flu in the past 24 months to withdraw from a golf tournament. How long can he?

flew in the past 24 months to withdraw from a golf tournament. How long can he, I'm not a doctor, how long can he live in Ohio? Like, is that a contributing factor, you think at all? In life, yeah. I mean, changing climates that often, I mean, he's spent a lot of time in the winter out in Palm Springs, like at the vintage club or somewhere? I have no idea.

I really don't know. I mean, according to the Nike commercial, he spends it practicing in the snow. It's been in Ohio. So it's cute. Yeah, I mean, the guy, it's kind of like the dishambo thing. He can't get out of his own way at this point. I mean, it's, it's ridiculous to be at this age and to be having this many health problems without like, you know, the, the, the history of somebody like Tiger, you know, or like the physical body and like the wear and tear of somebody like Tiger that he has withdrawing this so much

for, you know, back injuries and flu and vertigo and it's a new thing every week. And when you think it's gone too far, it goes like two steps further. I'm getting upset at this point. This is your, this is your beat. This is, I've been for your territory right now and to me it's like man it's just it's too far man. I want to like him. I really most of these guys almost all of my want to like you like we don't set out to dislike anybody but speaking of which do you want to talk about Wesley Bryan? Yeah we squashed the beef today.

to talk about Wesley Bryan. Yeah, we squashed the beef today. I did, my problem is there wasn't a beef for someone. No, yeah, there's no beef, but I just felt like a schedule. Yeah, it's fair. It goes after that whole, it's not really my style or anything, but I'm from Atlanta, like I'm used to that style, like that kind of that frat star Southern style, but like you can't wear a white belt and

sketches with that. Not yeah. But you know, like get some, like get a smatters and brand, like get a good belt. Let's classify this level of hate, though. I mean, we're talking like this is just this is fun. This is like, is this like mean we're talking like this is just this is fun. This is like oh yeah I like his game. It's a unbelievable play the history is absolutely incredible like that

Let's let's put all everything in perspective here Is this isn't like a even like a Bryson level of this like this is like? Oh, this is what we do like we poke fun at certain things here. This is not This is not a personal thing, but yeah, I mean, it's the pink pants and the white belt. And this guy's just like, we're gonna see you about it. This is just me just offering advice on like a consultant basis. Right. Free, free advisor.

Did you expect to get a three-year-old feedback on a tire that you had on in an Instagram picture? No, that was pretty solid. Although I was coming through your Instagram because I remembered that blueberry that blueberry muffin out that you had on this white belt. So you wanted to know the worst part is like so I made some regrettable decisions in my solid. I would say your your your wardrobe has never been your strong suit nor have you tried to make it your strong suit. Well, that's kind of the problem. I kind of have. I put a little invested a little too much into it.

I really love the DJ All Blue with White Belt look like in the late, or like early 2010-11 phase. I kind of held onto it a little bit too long. And then I moved abroad and haven't shopped for golf clothes. It like really at all in the last like three years. So thank God we actually came out with some golf clothes. Because my golf clothes are really all I wear. It really is. It's all I wear as well. But yeah, I'm not the most fashionable.

And there's some there's some damning evidence. I will say though, I'm ready to discuss this. The white belt hate has gone too far. It's gone too really it well It's it's so like it's such a lazy like The amount of people that use it and like Verotiously rip on it makes me think that like all right like come this is this is past like a trendy thing to make fun of now And it makes me just want to wear it even more to be honest.

I think one a year in Bacon's bets this year needs to be. Oh, that's good. Yeah, whoever loses whatever your master's bet or whatever bet you guys want to do, then that person either has to wear sketchers like for the rest of the year every time they play golf or wear a white belt. That's a good bet.

I like which for you wouldn't be an issue. But it's not hard because I have a reversible blue and white belt that I've just dying to flip back over to the white. But I think I get your point. It's a lazy and I'm guilty of this too. It's a lazy move to just throw in a white belt without any sense of the, you know, just just it doesn't match anything else in the outfit, but it can at times look good. I don't like

the white belt white pants look, but I disagree. I think if you're European or Australian and you want to wear a white belt with white pants, cool that. Okay, you can't be American though. But yeah, you can't be American The rules have gone too far see I like I like matching the belt color regardless of it with the the shirt color So if you have like oh if you have like black pants on a white shirt, I think a white belt does not look bad with that Okay The greater disagreeing. Okay, that's fine. That's fine. I just wanted to voice that Oh, somebody asked a question earlier, they said, if they found an Albino Gator, it made a belt out of him or her.

Would you wear that? And I can't answer that. I'd have to see it. I don't know. Go find that Albino Gator. And we'll cross that for sure. Do you want the last topic item I had written down here was the reverse Camilo?

Do we want to talk about what happened to Cody, Cody, Gribble? Well, I just want to talk about like, can we get Justin Ray, the golf Channel stats guy, like, on the blower and get him to dig into that one? Because I think, like, so first of all, for those of you that don't know, the Camilo is when year, the first round leader and you miss the cut. So this was not a reverse, because a reverse Camilo would be being in last place and then going to first after the second round, right?

Right. So this one, what Codigribble was the first round leader and then made the cut, but finished DFL out of everybody that made the cut. And like absolutely jacked it on Sunday too. I think, I mean, it's kind of unprecedented. So we made us call it the Gribble, is that fair? That's fair, yeah. So it's kind of like a Camilo light.

Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's fair. But so what I want Justin to look up is how many times in the history of the tour, or say the last like 20 years, has somebody gone from being the first round leader to missing the cut, and of those instances, how many times does it think can be a little bit jagas? I want to know that too.

I bet he could look that up in like five minutes. Exactly. I will DM him as soon as we're done here. That's great. Do you want to, any other topics before we go into questions? Who you got to win this week? I haven't looked. I haven't I've not like tried to pick a winner. The WGC's are like the hardest the ones to pick. Like it's all the top the top players. It's like even pick filling out a fantasy

line up this week is not even any fun. Do you have somebody? Well, all right, so I'm kind of in my own head about this. This is kind of a different take, but Tiring some guys this weekend. So I looked up all the courses that Rodric McRid has won on and it's like he's won on Congressional like basically all the courses he's won on either have deep, Tom Fosio hands on them with redesigns or their Reese Jones redesigns or their Pete die, but they're basically very new age kind of bomb and gouged style courses. I mean, even Firestone, I think, was a Reese Jones, like, and then, and then, and then Nicholas courses too, Valhalla, and all those. And then, somebody else has said, and I think Andy from Friday was saying how

DJ really, like, every course that he's won on has been, like, because Kyle Horde tweeted that thing the other day about how DJs want to hurt like Riviera, Oakmont, like he's wanted some pretty gnarly tracks, Pebble, but then like every time he wins for the most part it's wet and soggy. But like Rory tends to win on courses that are a little bit more firm and fast What worries like the king of winning when it's wet the holla was wet congressional was wet There was wasn't the rain delay it Kiwis. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Okay. Okay, so but there I think we'll ever tweet that was saying the similarity and they both like it very soft

Who's gonna but like who's the Ferman Fast player? Like who plays well when it's Ferman Fast? Is it ZJ? I mean, he won it the one that's... It's Keith? I mean, it's Keith won it Chambers. Keith won it Chambers. ZJ won a 07 when Augusta was Ferman Fast.

I don't really think, I mean, St. Andrews, was that firm and fast in 15? I don't know. I was there. I mean, whether it was windy, though. They, they, they, it wasn't shitty weather, like they headed to delay because of wind. I don't remember being that firm and fast, but that's a good question.

I don't know who, there haven't been that many opens lately that have been firm and fast. Why can't I think up the Pinehurst was Kimer I was put firm and fast 13 where was 13? Oh Justin Rose Mary and that was that was pretty firm. I don't know. There's not a lot of events that are firm and fast these days I think that's the most disappointing thing I guess that is that we don't know Yeah, saw grass what last year remember dried out, day one that didn't even. Yeah, I was spectacular.

You love that day. God. They should do that every year for sawgrass. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if there is a guy. Is it supposed to play Ferman fast this week? No, I don't know. I have no idea why I asked that.

No reason whatsoever. I'm thinking about, well, I guess the reason I'm asking is it's been like super warm in Georgia. Like, my parents were saying these, the aliens are almost about to pop already, like a month early. They did, and they just said that's the, they're gonna be, they're gonna be,

yeah, they won't be showing up or whatever you say. They'll be past bloom, I don't know that flower guy Whatever they're not gonna be there for the masters. How about that? Yeah, which was it was like that a few years ago But I think it was pretty firm and fast that year so like I want to see the course get baked out and get you know Get like that. I think speed is probably a pretty good firm and fast guy too I mean it was pretty firm last year wasn't it? I mean, it was pretty firm last year, wasn't it? I mean, it was really windy. I think I dried it out a little bit last year.

But yeah. All right, let's do some questions. This is from Mackie Hopen. You get six live mics to distribute at the masters. Who are they going to? Mm. Ooh. Um. Ooh. DJ.

Just cause DJ, awesome. I'm sure he has some great quips. Mag I give one to speed. Yeah. Just, so I can hear him in griller arguing. Hashtag pray for griller. I mean, Nicholson. Yeah.

Obviously, you gotta give one to Nicholson. Um, who's like a freaking volcano? I mean, who costs this like crazy? Um, I mean, you gotta give one to Bob, all right? Yeah, but I mean, do you want one for two days? God, that's savage. It's true. Two times, yeah.

I'm really doing to risk that. But I was done. Sorry, he's done. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Who else are you giving one to? I mean, if we can get a translator out there on how Cabrera to have one, I think. Okay.

I still want one on R Cabaret I have one, I think. Okay. Spare. I still want one on Rory. I want to hear what he has to say down the stretch. How many are we at then? I'll tell you who I'm not giving one to. Who already has, is Faldon. Oh, it's so bad bad it's so bad. I'm with you he's getting one. I read the question I was thinking that he was talking about actual announcers but no live mics I guess a really

good idea but that'll never happen at the masters but yeah Faldon's not getting in my in my booth. I'm distributing mics. Um, I'll tell you the last guy and give it one to go ahead Mike we're Like I want to hear what he says when he's 240 out Like I just want to hear his conversations and kind of like here here how an amateur Like plays the tournament. Oh Canada gonna be all up in your mentions just bait them. Actually I'd probably give one to one of the amateurs every year too. Either the mid-AM or the you know or the USM champ. We already did this. Kurt E. Ferg I just want to read this tweet anyways said you got to get your

take on the NBC coverage this week. Documentary preview during the coverage. Gonna be a no for me dog. I just like that. It's a little, a little pitchy dog. Little pitchy for me dog. Brandon Berry over under two and a half withdrawals for Jason Day, the rest of 17. Ooh, I'm going in the rest of 17. I'm gonna go over. I'm gonna go, I don't know, I mean, how many tournaments does he have left? Maybe 14 or 15? That's a lot of withdrawal. Three withdrawals. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say he's gonna go with two more withdrawals. Are we saying like what if he just like takes time? I don't know. Is it a term that he skips?

I would count as a withdrawal. I don't know. Yeah, very very slippery slope. Slippery slope. C.A. Adams 9-11 wants to know when the dad bought is going to kick in are we over under six months uh... I've got like frail bought right now I just totally stopped working out so I need to get my ass in the weight room I lack pop right now I'm not in the lot

we gotta get that you only have like a we'll see if this happens but we might be going to uh... England next month for a little little escape it is your game that you only have like a we'll see if this happens, but we might be going to England next month for a little little escape. It is your game. Yeah, I mean kind of shape. No man I'm played I put on New Year's Day here But yeah, I mean people are just gonna light light me up, but that's that's gonna be kind of a new thing now too, right? We're gonna start putting our swings on yeah, we're gonna do a thing like we're hours We're gonna start with us first. We need to do this like try tomorrow We're gonna start with us and we're gonna do like us first. We need to do this, like, try tomorrow. We're gonna start with us, and we're gonna do, like, a weekly roast my swing, and we're just gonna post it,

and then you guys can just have that, and just make fun of my white belts, or whatever you wanna make fun of. So we should do that, like, with this podcast, when we post it. So find a video that you find worthy of posting. All right. Dean Suarez asked, has your LPCP, basically has your LPCP, like top five changed it all and I had coach Donald, the Molenard brothers steel in Roberto Castro.

That's my top five last time. I think steel is now number one on my list. Number one Lacks pop can't play. You're giving away that title that easily. Yeah. OK, you have to rationalize this one. I just, and he's one of the longer players out there. I just, I can't do it.

Can't do it. Stinks. I'm also going to put Troy Merritt on there, too. And in lieu of Roberto Castro. Wow. I mean, your name is like, well, Brennan Steel's been playing pretty well, but like Troy and Mary Wooden, he won earlier this year. Was that this year?

I don't pay attention to the flop. He's a rapper. Yeah. Yeah. The what? What part of the season was it? All right. So, no, what did you call it?

Sorry, the reach around. There you go. But that's not fair for you to say, I don't pay attention to this time of the year. And then last year during the Ryder Cup stuff, you were like, oh, but JT1 in the, in the return season, and they don't count for anything. That's fair. But that is fair.

That's fair. Well, that's fair, but I don't remember like who wins the fall events unless it's somebody significant. Like Cody Grimmel, I was like, he won an event, which one did he win? Like I didn't remember him winning an event because I don't watch a lot of them.

But yeah, I did watch Malaysia both times when JT won. So yes, but no, I don't watch every second of the fall series, so I stand by that. It still should count in Ryder Cup standings. That's ridiculous. I don't get why it doesn't count for anything. So I agree, I think, I mean, if you're gonna make it part of the, part of the calendar, I mean, I guess that's where the PGA of America,

the PGA tour. What did Steel win? Did he win at Silverado? I think so. Yeah, I think that was one. Okay. All right, he can't, by the way. All right, he can't. He's done. Player, oh, this is a good one. Jim Bob, some are who player helped, player most helped by good apparel contract and player with potential most hindered by foreclothing.

It's a poorly phrased one. I'm going to say, I bag on him a lot, all right, I bang on him a lot, but Morgan Hoffman's got some good duds. Incredible, guys. He looks great out there. You need to explain your Morgan Hoffman take, too. I'm this good transit. He seems like a great guy. I can get so frustrated when some of these men on tour for four or five years and hasn't

really sniffed a win. I know it's tough to win, but like, it hasn't, I mean, I think you finished 125th on the FedEx couple this last year, but like, it hasn't accomplished any thing significant, and it's just there. Like, I don't think there's enough churn on the tour. I like it when, you know, it's set up to where it's too hard to lose your card

once you've had it for a couple of years. Yeah. Does that make sense? It makes sense. But I feel like if you're good enough of a web player, you can beat out a guy like Morgan Hoffman, right? I mean, you can get there. I don't think there's like the system's really holding down really, really talented players

that just don't have an opportunity, you know? I mean, it was prime's a good example of that. Yeah, you know. I mean, but he's the exception to the rule. Like Battlefield promotion and what he's accomplished in the last 12 months is ridiculous. But no, I don't know. I think that there's, we kind of, people

can lose appreciation for how many guys there are in that Morgan Hoffman bucket, right? And that, you know, Kyle Stanley is kind of in that category right now. I mean, he's making a lot of cuts. He's playing well. You're not seeing him on the top of leaderboards, but he's just kind of hanging around. And I don't know, I think there's something to be said for that, the guys that are really on their grind. And they may not be knocking down a ton of top tens, but I mean it's hard to maintain that consistency throughout the year without a few really good results.

It's hard to keep your card. It really is. So I kind of disagree a little bit. You need those top five finish to get you all those FedEx, Cup Points, and all that money to almost guarantee yourself a card. And to be able to keep your card without it just shows like a level consistency and making cuts and whatnot that not everyone does. But that's the thing, it doesn't make them any cut. He doesn't? I feel like he does.

I don't think so. But then also, maybe my problem with him too lies in the fact that I feel like he has much better endorsements than he should, right? Yeah. What does he have? I don't even know what he has much better endorsements than he should, right? Yeah. What does he have? I don't even know what he has. He's got like, I mean, he's always had, and he was like polo for a while,

and then he went to this Grayson clothes, but he's always been with titleists, and I know he flies his own plane, which I know you know that too. That was definitely do know that. But yeah, I mean, it just seems like he's kind of outkicked his coverage as far as this endorsements have gone his whole career and I've been a little bit hyped for not you know not Not producing how did he keep his car this because last year was one thirty third in the FedEx

He was missed 14 cuts out 25 I don't know Gideota web tour finals Yes, maybe he did I, you must have. But I would say guy right now that's most hurt by his clothing. For me, I mean of like the guys in the top 20 would be WP. I mean that that will you Murray stuff is like I mean if somebody gave me that stuff, I would burn it. Logo, the logo looks good.

I'll give them that. I mean, this is, it looks very familiar and it looks good. They ironically followed us on Twitter this week after I was saying nice things about paparrez, but they're gonna feel the wrath here pretty soon. I'm pretty sure. Did you see any other, those are the ones I had flagged. I think I got to all of them.

Do you have any other questions that you wanted to get to? Oh, I was scrolling through and I just put my phone down. Oh, no. I have not been reading through the ones we've gotten since we started recording. Robbie Vogel asked if my kids nickname is gonna be boom boom. My kids nickname is actually, while his name is Freddie, it's actually gonna be the junk man. The junk man? Yeah. Only you would name your kid not after Freddie couples, but Freddie, Freddie, Jack who's in the junk. Jack who's in the junk.

Dude at a tournament wearing a full orange outfit, white belt and sketchers, what are you saying to that guy? I don't think that guy exists because the guy wearing a full orange outfit white belt and sketchers. What are you saying to that guy? I don't think that guy exists because the guy wearing a full orange outfit in terms of always wearing pumas. Yes. And I normally take a picture with him if I see that guy because it's unintentionally hilarious. All right, I like this question from earlier. What, like comparing golfers to NBA stars? Yeah, I saw that one. I feel like we needed to dive

and do some research on that. Yeah, it's a good one. I like Porter was saying earlier that Ricky is like Kyrie, something before. I like, we could do that. It's, it's, it's, it takes some dedication. I'm not ready to go off the cuff on that. Okay.

That's fair. Unless you buy. Uh, uh, oh, I, uh, damn it, I missed my chance to, uh, say on the, on the Terrell Hatton uh, Spike Mark blame. I, I, I, we were like a couple steps away. I thought he was going to run into the Spike Mark and then flop like a full LeBron. I thought he was actually gonna try to sell us on the spike mark, blame that badly. That would have worked a lot better like an hour ago in this podcast, but just yeah. Yeah. What's going on BK? Your boy. My boy. I don't know. I don't really know. I thought,

so JT is kind of having the breakout season that I thought Capco was gonna have. I don't know, it's two months in the season, I'm not too worried about it, but I mean, it's pretty hilarious that he snapped his driver in two before 8am on Thursday, but I don't know, I don't have anything flaming on that, we'll see. Okay. Do you take your dog's golfing? Is there any dog slash golf etiquette one should always follow? I have it. I really want to because I feel like people out in Cali do that all the time. That video that Neil had from Monrie Peninsula Country Club when he played out there, that's you had his dogs out with him too.

Do they chase the ball? Do dogs chase the ball when you hit it? Mine would. That's why I probably think I'm out but but I think that guy's dogs was just was just real chill could any LPGA player make it through us open qualifying and what PGA player wouldn't win an LPGA tournament I didn't see now you got to give credit to the who Andrew J Andrew like Andrew Jones, like spelled like that. Alan Wildwood.

I don't think an LPG player makes it through the US Open Qualifying. Do you? Um. Lexi would be the only one I feel like could. I think it would depend on the site. Like I think like there's a couple shorter ones out there. Like they always have it at Springfield Country Club and Ohio. Like if you drive it straight and put your ass off out there, it's not so much about distance

as it is about, you know, stiffening your irons. I don't know, man, that Arya, Jatuna Garn, I mean, she's- She's you for trying to say the name, I've never tried. Crushing it right now, man. Just like, she's in the zone zone so I wouldn't put it past her I have I'm a big big big broke Henderson fan too so but yeah and then as far as pga tour guys not playing well in LPGA again I think it would just depend on the track, right? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying I don't think like you just put a PGA tour player in an LPGA event and they Necessarily go win it. Is that what the question saying because I definitely don't think that's the case to you

Yeah, yeah, that's how I read it. But yeah, I think there's a lot more nuance to the I mean They hit a bigger variety of shots too. I feel like the LPGA Bigger variety of shots too like the LPGA I'm gonna do but I you know I go back to the US open thing I feel like the problem is just that their trajectory is so much lower. Yeah, you can't hold greens Yeah, I probably couldn't hold the greens as well with you D Dag and NYC biggest NLU achievement thus far debunking the president's lies and getting covered by CNN

Wait, since this is a two-part tweet, I only see one. I don't know what the second part of this was, but very dishonest. Very dishonest. Yeah, I say, I don't know what the biggest achievement was. I'd say, probably getting mispronounce on CNN was a good one. But Chad Buchanan wants to know why we aren't doing this full-time yet and what would it take for us to do so. Good question. Go find some stuff in the Pro Shop chat and we can make it happen.

No, so I think it's a good time to say it. We will be adding some sponsors to this show in an effort to move towards doing this. More frequently, if not full time in the future, that's all I can really say on the matter at the moment. It's all we got a drone. It's all about a drone. Oh, we got a drone. Drone life is coming to reality. So we're going to be going to, hopefully going to England next month playing at Brookdale if things work out right and documenting that and kind of really beven up our travel section. And I'm going to be doing a bunch of Scotland and Ireland stuff this year as well as a trip to Lofton links in Norway in June, which I'm pretty close to booking now

Which I could not be more excited for that place looks absolutely legit Yeah, and then I got some Florida stuff plan to yeah for next one. So yeah, we could are you gonna be going to the match play? TBD, but I don't think so because I think that would be When I'm in Florida. I'm either gonna do Bay Hill or match play, but I think match plays the same week that we were gonna go to Europe I was gonna go to England. What are you gonna do in Florida? Are you just going to the bay? Invitational I'm gonna I think I'm in charge of bay hill and then just playing it once you go off I got three or four rounds set up with people down there and then go to Atlanta and then I'm going to the Heritage

meet in Big Randy at the Heritage too. Alex and Freddie and I, so. That'll be the three year anniversary the last time I saw you would be the Heritage this year. Kurama, Kurama State Councilman. That's right, board of directors meeting. The Bashi, Tim Clark in the building. All right, let's wrap it in an hour and nine minutes.

That's a lot of podcasts this week, so. Yeah. The episode 60. People are getting their money for this. We need a good one for episode 69, which is the next one. So I think we may have a good one for that. We'll see if it happens. It might not be for about 10 days or so, but we'll see.

OK. Anything else? That's it, man. That's it. Keep on trucking. I know you're I know you're You're in the in the throws of busy season right now, so keep on trucking for a couple more weeks. Yeah, these next two weeks They're gonna be gonna be tough. This is midnight that we're now recording this for me. So Almost there almost there. We'll get there and then life life opens back up so yeah all right ready thank you all right man how exciting good talking later buddy beat a right club today

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