No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 683: Thursday PGA Championship Recap

Episode Date: May 19, 2023

We recap a fun opener at Oak Hill, including Bryson's unlikely resurgence, Rory's up and down day, Rahm's disaster, DJ, Oak Hill, Tom Kim's mud excursion, what KVV saw out of Bryson in person, Phil, a...nd a ton more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah. That is better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most. Expect anything different is right. Eric Cole is leading the PGA championship at the end of Thursday. Sala here. Welcome to the no laying up live show presented as always
Starting point is 00:00:41 by our friends at high noon. There it is DJ Pius here. Hello, Pymin. Hello, guys. Happy to be with you. Happy PJ Championship week. Great day. Big Randy is here. So you know it's a big time major. Hello, big Randy. Hey, guys, excited to be here. Excited to talk some golf. Love the course. We'll get into all of it. Wow. That's expected anything different on that as well. Was not ready for that. I think that's a first out here. As I always mentioned, the no-ling-up live show presented by High Noon, the moment everyone has been waiting for, especially that I've been waiting for, the High Noon Pool Pack. It is back. Grab a case, text the group and get your
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Starting point is 00:02:07 A lot of, a lot of directions we can go with this. No disrespect to Eric Cole. He's got a fantastic round of golf going on in the golf course. I'm tempted to say Scotty Schaeffler after all the disrespect you guys put on him in the preview show. But I think it, I think it's got to be the artist formerly known as the big golfer. Bryson, proof of life is back. He's, what, 28 pounds lighter. He's got a new caddy. He's got a new swing coach. He looks like a new golfer. It's just absolutely riveting.
Starting point is 00:02:36 I know we're going to bring in our own big golfer here shortly to talk about what he saw from Bryson out there. But I mean, I think it's got to Bryson. Randy, am I missing anybody? No, I mean, I think the afternoon wave, it certainly seemed like the course, and I don't have the stats, Holly, maybe you have stats here. It certainly seemed like the course got a little bit more gettable in the evening.
Starting point is 00:03:02 It seemed like there were more birdies out there. I don't know if that's just coincidence or maybe my perception. But DJ, I think you're right. I think Bryson for most of the day was the big story. And then we saw guys kind of getting up to that four under mark late and making runs. But I would give it to Bryson. You know, we always say courage is probably an overused word, bravery, perseverance. So it's, it's just really commendable what all he's overcome to put himself in this position. Many people are saying, you know, it's yo kill out there, but, you know, I got a reminding Bryson has cut out eggs. He's cut out weed.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Yo, free. He's cut out all of those. It's not yo kill. You know, we're going to have to think of something else. I would, I would, I'll push back on it being the story of the day, because I got to say I love my ESPN guys, I love my CPS guys, they've been doing a great job. They were late getting to this.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Bryson was, you know, six, seven, eight holes into his round and I know that the broadcast was really focused on, you know, the feature groups and they didn't have enough cameras out there to really cover all that. But I like, I like looked up, was holy shit, is Bryson really doing this? I mean mean this is
Starting point is 00:04:09 We made some comparisons to wing foot a lot of people have made comparisons on this golf course to wing foot I think there's some similarities. There's a lot of differences But you know, it wasn't like screaming off the charts of like the only thing that matters here is distance So Bryson makes a ton of sense here like you still have to hit some proper proper golf shots And some of the stuff that he said about what he's got going on or what he's doing more from an ulnar position and all I mean, Bryson is so back in terms of all the dumb stuff he's going to say. I'm very ready for all this diet stuff to be totally fake. Like I've I've been through enough of these Bryson storylines to know. Supposedly he was eating a sandwich during one of these pressers.
Starting point is 00:04:41 So I don't know if he's got gluten free bread to do all that, but I'm ready for this all to start crumbling down like almost every Bryson storyline has but I know we know a guy that I think before Wabe almost kind of like he was gonna do it the masters, which was like I kind of want to follow Phil and see what this guy that Can't break 70 anymore. We'll shoot sure enough Phil finished his time for seconds. So KVV says you know what? I'm gonna fall Bryson around on Thursday and I have a feeling he's the live whisperer. I have a feeling he, he saw some stuff out there today. So why don't we bring it our guy from the media center here at the PGA Championship at Wilk Hill, Mr. KVV.
Starting point is 00:05:15 How's your day, man? Hello, Lads. I'm doing fabulous. I had just a lovely day following the once big golfer. I did. I texted DJ last night. I said, you know what? We'll be a great story story no matter what happens is Bryson what happened to Bryson I miss Bryson and then like by the end of the day everybody wanted to write Bryson But we were there right from the start hell yeah, we did you have fallen C1 came tomorrow get to the bottom of that story
Starting point is 00:05:38 It's going on no one's telling these stories what was live knows live knows my price They know how to read out reach out to my people. Uh, KVV, what was kind of the, you know, sum it up. What's the headline of the day for you from, from following, following Bryson Graham? I think the headline for me, Dej is just, I'm grateful that Bryson is back. You guys touch on a little bit. It's just more fun when Bryson is in the mix, right? It's, he's, he's telling stories about older deviation
Starting point is 00:06:05 and he's getting deep into the, you know, I've, my body was inflamed. They did all sorts of blood tests. I was so dizzy at the masters. And this is what I dug into. I was just like, man, this is fun. This is so great to have him just back in our lives doing weird stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:21 And honestly, the walking the round with him, I was like, this seems really disciplined. Like he just didn't make any dumbass decisions. He just was like, I'm gonna hammer it right down the middle. I'm gonna hit a sweet like soft wedge right to five feet. I'm gonna make this butt. So honestly, I was like, this is kind of, I mean, we kept making the wing foot comparison
Starting point is 00:06:40 and he was like, you know, it's more new he wants than that. There's some water out here, you can't just pound driver, you can't just blast it down there, go as far as you can. You have to be a little bit more thoughtful about it. And even that was interesting to hear from Bryson that he was basically like, yeah, my strategy at Wingfoot was just to nuke the shit out of it and go find it. And that's, it's different here.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I think it, you know, we don't have to go through Bryson's whole huge timeline of his career. But one thing I would say, it know, we don't have to go through Bryson's whole huge timeline of his career, but one thing I would say, it's amazing that he's done all the stuff that he's done, and we still are like, he couldn't be less likable as a person, and I'm still like, fuck yeah, let's go, shoot a number out there. I'm ready for this, I don't know what he would have to do for me to start rooting against him on the golf course,
Starting point is 00:07:21 because he's already done everything possible, I think, to have possibly activated that but when Bryson activated this extra speed thing the one comment a lot of people have made and that we have made as well is to say like this was kind of a one guy situation he's kind of the only one that can build off of you know the gosh what's the golf golf machine swing that he has formulated that was going to make this work somehow and it's easy to forget how good of an iron player and striker of the ball. Bryson was prior to that.
Starting point is 00:07:50 It wasn't just, you know, he was kind of getting past that part of the game, dumbing down that part of the game for a long time, even though he was a decent iron player. And but he's still crafting the shots, still getting close to the hole and still putting well when he was playing really good golf. And man, it all of those got activated today. Number two in Stroke's game off the tee. Number eight in Stroke's game approach the green and 17 in putting, which is, you know, gaining over two shots on the greens. How sustainable is it? I don't know, but that was a sight to be seen today, and I'm very excited about it. So I mean, he was more than a half a stroke better off the tee. I know you like the data. So I tried to look up some of the data.
Starting point is 00:08:27 More than half a stroke better off the tee than anybody else. That's a big number to be gaining every time. And he didn't really make any mistakes. I made a couple of bogies, but everybody's making them. And he just kept, I probably could have shot a couple more under if a couple more punts had gone. And he had really good punts a couple times that just kind of burned burn the edges and I think what was interesting is I put this in the column for tomorrow But there was a couple times when there was a few stray people who tried to kind of get under his skin in the old
Starting point is 00:08:55 Hey, Bruxy, you know you heard that once or twice or you know a couple people making comments about the rope stuff But he was like just super joyful He kept kind of like smiling at the crowd and of, hey, thank you, thank you. Every time somebody'd say a good shot, like, I don't know, man, it's the happiest I've seen this dude in like a year. I mean, obviously I haven't seen a ton of him because it's been off at live,
Starting point is 00:09:12 but I don't know, I mean, maybe Liv has been good for him. Maybe Liv is the answer for Bryson. Do you think it's not, it's gonna be a very live positive evening, I feel like, with him playing well, Dustin playing well, I think, there's a lot of, a lot of positives for live tonight, but do you think it's live or do you
Starting point is 00:09:28 think it's kind of like just being out of the spotlight? And I don't even mean that as like a backhanded, you know, backhanded thing towards live, but like he's, he's kind of just been a relevant for a year, right? And I don't know if it's that or if it's, you know, I don't know that the crushers are really filling up his tank, maybe, maybe they are, but it kind of seems to me like he's just been able to like put the pieces back together and reset his life a little bit. He doesn't have to go from, you know, the memorial to what it like to the US open to all of these event event event. And it's like, hey, Bryson, like say something, say something.
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Starting point is 00:10:43 There's golf has been horrific. It's not like people were sleeping on them. No one really noticed. Is that even fit than Tulsa, Saul? I'm like, well, how am I supposed to know what that means? Randy can out of here with that, okay? This baby? So I don't feel like, we were sleeping on them.
Starting point is 00:10:57 And we talked about them in the preview pod, but again, I'm very, very stoked about all of this. I kind of wonder, I mean, you could look, we've talked our share of shit about Liv, but I wonder if you can make the case that, it's easier to figure out and find things if you've got bigger gaps in between long stuff. If you're not in this cut.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Missy cut on the tour for a while, you miss a cut. It's compounding, right? Your negative vibes are compounding. You feel like, oh, catch it. I gotta go to another city. I got to figure this out He very touched talked about that how he just needed to practice he needed more time to sort of stuff He actually said something kind of interesting is like I know you guys kind of joked about how it's always out on the range until like midnight But he was like I had to do that because I had to and I think that's part of Bryce's kind of I had to
Starting point is 00:11:42 Retroactively retroactively making excuses for stuff, but like he's like I had to figure out what I was doing. I couldn't figure out how to swing drivers. I was like, risk hurting so much. Yeah, drivers just sucks. And so he was very much, he's flexing his wrist and showing us the bone and stuff and talking about how it's so much more stable through impact. And he doesn't have a, you know, a high left miss or a low right push or whatever and stuff. So, I mean, I was just kind of like, I felt kind of a little bit happy for him. I was like, ah, Bryson, man, you've taken your share of shit.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I was right there, you guys probably remember. I was a person who witnessed when he went after a fan at the BMW few years ago and that turned into such a big deal with their banning, yelling, you know, brooksy for that stuff. And so I've seen Bryson at his lowest. So to see him kind of rise back again was kind of fun. A little bit of rage maybe in that if I remember from the BMW, I wonder what could possibly cause that? I you know, he had to do that too. He had to what
Starting point is 00:12:38 was your phrase, DJ, waterboard himself with protein shakes. That was, yeah, that was my first thing that was just thrown at him. That was the only option he was given at that point. He was going to try to truly break the game, hack the game. That was that was his only option. Brandy, what would you feel watching watching Bryson today? I've not just in this whole conversation.
Starting point is 00:12:57 I've never thought Bryson and Neil Schuster have been so much alike. Just with you know backing themselves into their their own corner and then somehow convincing themselves this is outside adversity. Remember when Diel switched to the steel driver? That's the driver. Playing that course in Ireland without a driver. You got to experiment. You got to be willing to dare and change the gear. I had to do that. I had to be out there doing that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I think my big takeaway is what you touched on just is the tempo and format of live more beneficial for certain guys. I think that's really interesting. And I don't have an answer to that. It seems like just conjecture at this point. We don't have a ton of, you know, years of data to go off,
Starting point is 00:13:50 but I think it's something, you know, KVV and I were talking earlier in the week about, well, it was about John Morant and just, you know, sometimes these guys, it's like, you know, you get all the money and with it comes the pressure and the expectations and I think it's like, you get all the money and with it comes the pressure and the expectations. And I think it's a fair question. And ask like, are some of these guys actually happy?
Starting point is 00:14:10 And perhaps getting out of the limelight week to week of the tour and getting to a setting like, live has really helped them. I don't know. He also could shoot 76 tomorrow and we kind of forget that he ever led after the first round. I do not know what to explain. A lot of golf left. A lot, a lot, a lot of golf left. And I'll say this on the kind of forget that he ever led after the first round. I do not know what to explain. A lot of golf left.
Starting point is 00:14:25 A lot, a lot, a lot of golf left. And I'll say this on the kind of live front, just so people are understanding, I think, of the position. And feel free to disagree with any of this because Shane Ryan wrote a great piece just saying, like, look, guys, I think if a live guy wins one of these tournaments, it's not going to mean maybe what the live boys will think it means. It's not going to change the fact that no one's watching live. It's not going to change the fact.
Starting point is 00:14:47 There's no live transitive property. It's the right. The ratings weren't through the roof in Tulsa because Brooks and Phil played great at the master. It's almost yeah. It almost makes more of the point of like, dude, I wish we were just watching these dudes play against each other more often and the majors are totally elevated by this and it's not going to mean anything if a live guy doesn't win one of these. It's not going to mean much if they none of them finish in the top 15. I think we
Starting point is 00:15:11 all are able to separate and feel free to disagree with this, able to separate out what PGA Tour Golf is versus major championship golf. And like I don't literally the only reason I wouldn't want to live guy to lose or to win is what the idiots on Twitter would say, which is a very, very, very dumb reason to root for or against anyone. Yeah, I think if you're rooting for like a story and just what's fun to talk about and what's going to make you feel something and what's going to like gluer eyes to the TV. I mean, every time they're like, let's go over to his seven. Here's Bryson to Shambon.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Oh, my hell. Yes. Feed me. I cannot get enough. every time they're like, let's go over to his seven. Here's Bryson to Shambon. Oh my hell. Yes. Feed me. I cannot get enough. KVV, I was going to ask you. I read the piece that you put up or is either going up or should be up shortly
Starting point is 00:15:55 on nolingup.com. And there was kind of a reference at the end towards the kids being all over Bryson. I always thought about that. I know we all kind of feel. He's the Nickelodeon golfer. About him. And we all kind of feel like a little bit of not him. And I'm always curious like what the kids reaction is to it. So that sounds like it was like a very real thing
Starting point is 00:16:10 out there today. Yeah, it was neat to kind of watch that. Like, you know, PJ Tours, you need major tournaments are always like a huge cluster of fucking terms of like trying to be out by the rope line and stuff and trying to get to seeing. And so kids always didn't often get kind of disadvantaged in that. And so I was kind't often get kind of disadvantaged in that.
Starting point is 00:16:25 And so I was kind of just like hanging back and outside the ropes for a little bit, just to sort of see people watch people watching Bryson. And I watched these two kids, these two like, you know, tween age boys kind of about the same age as my girls, like just eagerly, like trying to peek around just to try to get a look at, you know, seeing the big golfer hit bombs and stuff. And they were just sort of speaking of it in awe. And you realize like, you look around and you see,
Starting point is 00:16:47 like, you know, we're part of this too. Like a lot of kids grow up just watching golf on the internet. You know, they're watching good good, they're watching Mars, they're watching us, or whatever. And that's their experience. And Bryson is closer to that than a lot of like these PGA tour guys. Like they understand Bryson's arc more than they understand
Starting point is 00:17:02 Tigers. And so to see them sort of feel in wonder of him, I was like, man, that's kind of neat thing. I even call that Cornball or two earnests or whatever, but I'm in, man, I love that. See, watching kids get all geeked out. Bryson talks about that stuff all the time. Oh, I want to go over the game with kids.
Starting point is 00:17:17 And I was like, here's a real example of that. I got to push, well, I got to throw some cold water on that. Kids are stupid. Please do. I'm too excited. Kids are stupid. Please. I'm too sad. Kids are very stupid. I think you could also make the case Bryson's pretty close to Jake Paul and Mr. Bees.
Starting point is 00:17:33 It wouldn't shock me in two years if Bryson was what you're doing. You're in a hundred kids of deafness or something. So I don't know. I mean, God bless the kids, but they're dumb. But does it every one of Bryce's decisions, like at the way he acts at videos and everything, he's the Nickelodeon golfer.
Starting point is 00:17:52 It's all meant for like 15-year-olds. It's like the caddy announcement, where his caddy jumped in the pool, and then of course Bryce and fired him. But it's all Nickelodeon. So it makes sense that he'd be big with kids. Can I ask you, KVV, you're out of Oak Hill all day today. What's your impression?
Starting point is 00:18:07 We're going to talk to golf course here, but after we let you go, but what's been your impression of the test at hand here? Rough is really tough. I'm honestly like you can see guys, I think Rory alluded to this and his president, like, yeah, if you're in the fairway, you've got a lot of options and you can go at things,
Starting point is 00:18:25 but if you're in the rough, you're not boned, but you know, there's just very few people who can advance it up around the green. It's not, it's, you know, it's interesting. It's kind of low key. It doesn't feel like a super intense major at the moment. I think it'll probably kind of ramp up slowly over time, but the crowd is, is pretty chill. There's not a huge crowd out here. So it's not like you're pushing to get to the front.
Starting point is 00:18:48 There's no tiger, which always kind of makes it a little bit interesting in terms of its intensity. It does feel like a big test. It feels like a big track. It feels like there's hard shots out here, but it doesn't feel like stupid. It feels like there are cool approaches and degrees. There's some really weird pins today. I mean, I'm weird by
Starting point is 00:19:07 meaning like way tucked in these tight corners. That was kind of cool to see. And I don't know. I mean, I'm enjoying it. I don't know that it's like blowing me away. I don't know. I think I would want to play here. But I think it's like a very stout test, which I think is what you probably want. Bonafide. Anything else? Any other big takeaways from today? Anything you saw or want to get off your chest here as before we let you go? You know our guy Rory just doesn't look like he's got it. He's coming down with something.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Come on, let's make excuses for him. He's not feeling, he's a little on the weather. 22% whoops score. Feels like he's not protein shake. Gotta have a look. to be breaking his mind. I'm not sure if he's going to be breaking his mind. I'm not sure if he's going to break his mind.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I'm not sure if he's going to break his mind. I'm not sure if he's going to break his mind. I'm not sure if he's going to break his mind. I'm not sure if he's going to break his mind.
Starting point is 00:19:58 I'm not sure if he's going to break his mind. I'm not sure if he's going to break his mind. I'm not sure if he's going to break his mind. I'm not sure if he's going to break his mind. I'm not sure if he's going to break his mind. I'm not one pro-keygan guy on the unallocated. Keygan might be a threat.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Keygan's hitting the ball really good. And he's vibing a few times out there, I gotta say. That's definitely a side to let you go then. If you're going to start riding for Keygan, then you go find yourself a garbage plate. Kevin, if I know people on the podcast can't see you, but a lot of comments on your all-white fit. I was curious if you had an early wibble-ton pick. God, I got to go with Alcaras, but I'm just trying. I got a lot of Ken bone comments when
Starting point is 00:20:37 I wore the red sweater, the players, so I'm working my way through the fashion choices, and hopefully the crispy whites are a good Thursday choice, you know, we'll see what you're going. You'll be a dud and dirty by the white backdrop. That's a great idea. We're going to let you re-assend back into heaven and thank you so much for joining us and have a wonderful rest of the week at O.K. We'll see you.
Starting point is 00:21:01 We'll see. It's all a good luck to Hannah. You know, congrats to her. I don't know if that won't see you tomorrow, but congrats to there. Thank you very much KVV. I want to give a shout out to our friends at Misen and Maine. They are famous for their performance fabric dress shirts.
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Starting point is 00:22:52 Super comfortable, breathable. Can't wait to wear it on the course. Uh, do you guys want to talk more golfers? Or do you want to talk, oh, kill yet? Right to your call. Uh, why don't you go, oh, kill your, okay, you're passionate about this golf course. I'm ready to hear you say nice things about a golf course and I want to hear why. I thought it looked cool. I thought for me it was the KVV just mentioned it briefly, but I really,
Starting point is 00:23:18 that the green complexes were super interesting and I loved some of the pin locations. It seemed like little tongues and they were they were able to tuck it and I just I don't know. I think with the PGA championship, I felt very similar at Southern Hills last year. These two iterations where you know I don't get myself as worked up as I do with the US Open and wanting it to just be a total blood bath. as I do with the US Open and wanting it to just be a total blood bath. I thought it was like, Sully, I feel like it hit exactly where you're always kind of trying to convince me a major championship course should reside, which is, you know, hit the fairway, you're going to get rewarded. God, the ball was bouncing. I saw guys hitting driver and those
Starting point is 00:24:05 bounces were literally what you'd see in Scotland, like, you know, head high bounces on the first bounce and with rollout. And it just was, you know, a huge advantage to have 25, 30, 35 extra yards of roll, maybe get a wedge in your hand instead of a midiron. And yeah, I just thought it was, I don't know how else to say it. Like I wish I had better words to describe why I like to work for you. If it kept you visually, it just was interesting. And I, and I just enjoyed watching guys hit shots. The word that kept coming back to me, Randy, was proportion. Like it felt like a very proportional test, meaning like you had to not only drive it
Starting point is 00:24:47 pretty long, but you had to drive it straight. And the rough was not out of control. You got punished like the right amount if you hit it in the rough, but you also, like, because the greens, you know, there were openings in the front of the greens, the stronger faster players could hack it up there and like speed was a definite advantage, but it wasn't the only advantage. The pins were talked like you were saying. So it was like you still had to be a great iron player to put up a good round. Lots of cool short game stuff. It was like a very, very balanced test.
Starting point is 00:25:15 And I know that's not like the sexiest thing in the world, but it was just, God, it was really doing it for me today. I had a blast watching today. I think it's an awesome major championship golf course. I think for this style of golf course, Northeast, kind of big field, rolling terrain, trees, just everything that this is about, and a course with rough, it's about as good as you can get it. I still, I will slightly say, I just still don't love narrow-ish fairways
Starting point is 00:25:43 with very thick rough balls that run into that. I don't recall seeing maybe three, maybe four interesting shots out of the rough today. It's an appropriate punishment for the shots going offline and that's an interesting element. They did a great job covering t-shots, which is kind of a beef I usually have is like, hey, if you're going to like put this much emphasis off the tee and you don't show the shots, I'm not really going to enjoy this path to getting to a winner by the end of day Sunday, but they showed so many tee shots today.
Starting point is 00:26:09 You knew what to look out for. They covered the holes so well. You knew what sides, you know, were bad sides to be on. That just is so engaging. I thought the broadcast and look, you can throw out our opinions this week since we're doing ESPN coverage this week that maybe we're by maybe we are bias in this, but I've we've long said for years that ESPN coverage is some of our favorite and golf well before we got brought on to do coverage this weekend, but it was working for me as well. I have
Starting point is 00:26:32 nothing but strong things to say about Oak Hill that the test that it provides and man, it feels just frickin thorough. Like there was no one that played iffy golf today that is near the top of this leaderboard. And there this today feels as much like a formation lap as any tournament. I can remember watching in recent history. Maybe last year's JT's come back last year with nine holes to go. It really set the tone for me of like dude, PGA championships. There's there's just really long tournaments. Even.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Rob may have played himself out of it, but I wouldn't go as far as like, Roy did not play himself out of it today. It looked really bad, but he did not play himself out of the golf term. There's so, so, so much golf left to play. I think Roy's around kind of a good example of, of where, in a weird way, the rough was kind of working for me was you could, you saw a lot of players go on, like, it was a very streaky day in that, like, you could, if you were driving it well and you hit three, four fairways in a row, all of a sudden, it sudden it's like, oh man, like the green is not,
Starting point is 00:27:27 you know, it's not like asphalt greens, like you can hit it close. You can because the fairways are running out so much, you're going to have a lot of like wedges, nine irons, eight irons, into a lot of these greens. So like you can make a couple of birdies, but as soon as you get offline at all, you're going to make two bogies and four holes or a double in the bogie or whatever. And you saw that with like, hegan's round, you obviously saw it with Fienau, the way he started and the way he kind of bounced back.
Starting point is 00:27:52 You saw it with like a couple of guys where there were all these like very, a lot of like ebbs and flows throughout the round. And it was just, I don't know, it was just really, really fun to watch. And I thought on top of that DJ too, with the whole locations today, a good chance to either, hey, if you want to play it safe and hit it to the middle of the green and, you know, have a 35 foot birdie putt and
Starting point is 00:28:16 try to just make a comfy four, go for it. But it it seemed like guys were getting tempted to try to get at some of these flags, which I thought was great. You know, I, exactly, I was just going to say like max home on number two hit, you know, if that greens a little softer or if that ball just checks a little bit more, he's five feet and instead it just keeps rolling and goes down a little path, but it was playable down there and he put it up and ended up making a par. But you could kind of see guys having to do that decision where, okay,
Starting point is 00:28:48 do I need to try to go for this one? Am I just trying to stay patient? And I like that aspect of it. Well, I think even a whole like 15 like the part three, right? Whereas like you've probably played like such a long day that you're just like, God, I'm so fucking sick of hitting to the middle of these greens. Like I have to make a birdie, I have to make a birdie, and you finally get to this like 150 yard shot,
Starting point is 00:29:09 which anybody who's ever picked up a golf club, if you said like, hey, where do you not want to hit it on this hole? It's like, okay, 100% cannot hit it left. And guys just kept doing it because they were just trying to get into that little finger and trying to get it back to that pin and trying to take advantage of the
Starting point is 00:29:25 one birdie chance. And it was just such a cool line, like it was a very, very great dividing line today. Oh, it was awesome watching. I was so excited to watch more. Kawa get to the 15th tee today, which if you missed any of the coverage today, it's a long kind of skinny green with a death bunker left and a big runoff down the right side. And the pen couldn't have been tucked farther in the back left. And Morakawa is literally the best iron player in the world,
Starting point is 00:29:49 but plays a fade on every shot. And so, you know, his six iron accuracy is like the nine iron accuracy of the rest of the tour players. So what's he going to do to a back left pin, a Patrick Reed pin in the back left, is he going to just bail out to the center of the green, is he going to go for it? Started a ball just left of that pin and it didn't cut. It's the bank kicks into the bunker, total death spot.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Like he went after the pen, could not pull it off. I really, really enjoyed watching dudes try to get after this pen and watching some, you know, everyone to get caught up in the left came Smith got caught up in that left bunker, but hit an unreal bunker shot that I thought they didn't really properly give you a good idea of as to how good that bunker shot was. But that was what that little stretch there really activated me. And I loved every single moment they showed to the 15th hole. It looked like only two people got up and down from that left side. And there was a good like 15, 20 people over there.
Starting point is 00:30:40 It looks like, I mean, it's just just death. Let's just just in terms of course, I know there's some rain in the forecast. Have you guys been checking? Do we know is Oak Hill due to get a little wet? Because I'm so killed. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Because that would be a bummer. I saw Andy Johnson say, you know, let's hope Oak Hill avoids the bulk of the rain because I mean, I'm trying to think the last time I've seen balls bounce that high in the fairway off of some of those
Starting point is 00:31:12 drives I saw, it was really impressive. And it also, Randy, we say this, you know, it usually turns into a heated argument every year during the US Open, but it kind of feels like they're in total control of the golf course, like rain notwithstanding, right? Like it almost feels like they could just keep edging it a little harder, a little harder, a little harder, a little harder, which is so fun. So yeah, hopefully the rain stays away. And last thing, sorry, last thing on those whole location, someone were like, damn, this is what I would have expected on a Sunday. Like, I don't know what you'll have in store. Like, where are we putting some of these on Sunday?
Starting point is 00:31:47 I can't wait. That was, they chose violence on some of those pins. I mean, there was some of them were the hardest ones you could possibly put on. You know, watching a few of them, like 10 was pretty accessible. There were a couple accessible ones, but yeah, they've used up some really hard pins as it is.
Starting point is 00:32:01 But some of the part three, the longer part three is they can get a lot more difficult if they want to. They're in total control what they want to do. I don't think the rain, my phone showing 90% chance of rain Saturday. So I think we still get at least two full rounds of it. And I don't know, it looks like during the day rain on Saturday and not like cancel play rain. So that's another element of, you know, I don't want to see it's off and up either. But They reign. So that's another element of, you know, I don't want to see it soften up either, but good time to plug the ESPN mega cast. That could be fun to talk. And that'd be a deal.
Starting point is 00:32:30 I'd love to, I'd really love to get tomorrow's round, like as similar conditions as possible, just to really have an even late early, early, late wave because I think it'll be really interesting watching these guys in the afternoon who had, you know, benign wind and I'm not sure of stuff softened a touch. I don't know it just seemed like there were more birdies to be had. I'm really curious how they're going to fair early tomorrow morning. What you guys think of the 14th hole. Took the words out of my mouth. I was going to ask you that question too. out of my mouth. I was going to ask you that question too. Randy, please, I liked it today. Now, if it's kind of that they're all playing the same way for another three days, I might change my opinion, but for today only, I enjoyed it. I think it's cool when it's such a hard golf course that you're giving one, essentially glorified,
Starting point is 00:33:25 really, really long par three, right? Where it's kind of everybody's gonna hit it up. I don't love like, I don't think there are a bunch of like great options in play, right? It's kind of everybody just bashing it up into those bunkers and trying to get up and down. I think they were, they asked Fina a good question during the mic'd up segment, right?
Starting point is 00:33:41 Like trying to at least get something like if they move the pin, you know, if they really tuck it like up against those bunkers, like, do you think then maybe guys will lay up and try to spin one off the back? And he's like, now we're like, all really good bunker players. And we have a backstop. Like, well, that's ain't going to be a problem. I think, yeah, sorry, sorry.
Starting point is 00:34:00 I'll throw it to you, but I was just going to say I think it'd be a little bit more interesting of a hole if they maybe moved up a tee box and made it like a 280, 285-ish yard hole, just to really give guys a shot to hit that green and perhaps hold it. But yeah, sorry, what did you think of it? I love the same thing. I was really excited to watch this haul.
Starting point is 00:34:21 I thought it was pretty dull today. I don't know if it gets more exciting with a little different wind and a front pin. Like Fina said, though, you can kind of get to that for those front pins, maybe even easier than these back pins. I don't know if there is a T-box, is possibly in play to move up. I'd like to see the same thing you're talking about though, Randy, in terms of, hey, I'd like to at least tempt these guys to try to land one on and hold it because long is death and really interesting if you go long. And it's not punishing enough to hit, you can hit towards the end of that fairway, it can roll into the rough and it's not that bad, it can roll into the bunker and it's not that
Starting point is 00:34:56 bad. And I didn't see anybody get screwed. Some of those bunker phases are steep, they're crazy. And I thought we would get some total landmine lies in some of those and that just never really happened with any of the key players today. So kind of blew my mind just the idea of somebody stopping it on that green. Like I obviously haven't been there, but when you see the photos of just how uphill and like you
Starting point is 00:35:17 mentioned, it's almost like a volcano hole. It's like it's luck bouncing it through the bunkers. Yeah, it's just crazy. The idea that a ball would would stop on that thing. I think they could have done some more interesting things in terms It's lucky bouncing it through the bunkers. Yeah, it's just crazy. The idea that a ball would would stop on that thing. I think they could have done some more interesting things in terms of making those, if you make those pop bunkers, like real hazards, like real bunkers, then maybe guys aren't just hitting it up there
Starting point is 00:35:36 in aiming for them or do like the southern hills thing and put like no sand in that bunker and make that a totally different shot. Otherwise, that's just two stock of a shot for this level of player. And I didn't like how it played today or no rakes is my associate. And I have you know lobbied for the that's what shackleford said. It's maybe some of these guys are playing with no rakes.
Starting point is 00:35:55 They're leaving shitty rake jobs behind on purpose. Some of the live guys potentially. That's a legend. I could not confirm that. I need that. That's a dog whistle. We see you DJ and Randy. We got you.
Starting point is 00:36:05 You want to glow a little bit on Scotty? I'm in. Yeah, you know, I'm happy to say that I was on that block, you know, choosing the arguably the number one player in the world to play well at a major championship. I'm not, you know, I don't need validation from you guys on how brave of a call that was, but he just, you know, he looked like he has the last 18 months, like he just doesn't make mistakes and he drives it better than everybody else and he hits his irons in all the right spots and, you know, he made some puts today, which he hasn't done the last the last couple months, despite the fact that he just continues to finish in the top 10. So as you said, he might be putting the Jason Duffner playbook into action,
Starting point is 00:36:46 just hit it close enough that it doesn't even matter how bad you put it. So if he does that, I mean, I think pretty by like, I think by a pretty wide margin, he's the quote unquote leader of this golf tournament in my mind right now. I'd not to take anything away from Bryson, but it's been quite a while since we've seen him play four days of very, very solid golf. I, you know, especially on a course like this, it's as demanding as it is. I think I'm taking Scotty over Bryson for the next 54 holes, but anybody disagree with that?
Starting point is 00:37:18 No, I don't disagree at all. I don't know if you wanna reheat my I test, but but I will say, you know, DJ, it's, it's no sure thing. Pick in some of these top 10 guys and I gotta give, I gotta give Scotty credit. He, he just delivers. He, he is a cut above even a lot of his peers within that top 10, even top five in the world. In my opinion, he just is so damn steady. It is crazy. It's so tier A is ramen Scotty. Let's just let's put that out.
Starting point is 00:37:56 There's two of them. There's two of them and there's no third, which is nuts because Ram did shoot 76, but I do can see that. It's kind of ramen Scotty right now and the rest is you never quite know what you're gonna get. It's certainly major to major. It's just kind of the story of my picks for quite some time. I picked Scotty at the Masters and ROM wanted. I picked a play on ROM to win this one. Skyd is probably going to win this one. He would definitely be my pick. Going, you know, if we're making the plays now, let's do this now. This segment is brought to you by our partners, Draft King Sportsbook, Draft King's offers nearly endless ways to get in on all the golf betting action. Be sure to check them out and get some skin in the game. Let's look at
Starting point is 00:38:36 the live odds because I love doing this. I looked at this like 25 times during the course of this day. I've just like, what are the betting markets say about what this person is currently doing? And if you look at it, Scotty Schaeffler is plus 230 to win this tournament. He was plus 700 as the favorite. The trafficking's just as brave as me. They're willing to say that he is the favorite of this tournament.
Starting point is 00:38:57 DJ is plus 700. We haven't got the DJ yet. Hovelin plus 1200 and Bryson plus 1200. So despite, you know, I hope this math works out right, but despite Bryson being one shot lower than Scotty, they think Scotty's about six times more likely to win this golf tournament, or the markets would say that he is.
Starting point is 00:39:14 So what's your reaction to see in this board? That's a lot of respect for Scotty. And I guess based on everything I just said, it's probably deserved, I guess. Yeah, I think not a reaction as much as kind of a thought. It's, we keep talking about the live stuff, but man, imagine like handicapping, like fuck, like what the hell is Bryson gonna do?
Starting point is 00:39:36 Oh my God, for you, it's gonna directly financially impact our company. Like you better make the right bet. It's just fascinating, trying to hit a cap him and Dustin to an extent too. I mean, I think Dustin's probably a little safer bet. Obviously, he's been a much better form for the last year. But yeah, it's really interesting.
Starting point is 00:39:52 I think the guy, Roy, still up there. How about that? Yeah, Roy. I feel like that's like, you know, you always just have to re-mall you the rake in some cash. The part of those racing losses. I was going to say the one that's a little have to re-mall you the rake in some cash. The part of those racing losses. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:07 I was going to say the one that's a little surprising to me is Adam Scott at plus 2,500. He doubled 18. I don't know if you saw that before the coverage ended. I know that's, I am just now receiving word that he did double 18. Okay. That makes more sense. Thank you. Is Adam Scott on PDs?
Starting point is 00:40:24 He is just pounding drives out there, absolutely destroying them. But, um, yeah, I would be, it's, I don't know what to expect. I don't know if the masters taught us anything about the live guys. I don't think it really did. I mean, Phil ascended on Sunday, 52-year-old Phil ascended to a runner-up finished to John Rom at the masters while Brooks faded like maybe Brooks is serving his energy not talking all week. That's true. And he seems to be running the opposite of that. Definitely look this week.
Starting point is 00:40:52 And we know Bryson's going to talk, but I found that this is surprisingly just big reshuffle of everything, I think, and that anything else you guys want to add on DJ. I mean, he looked like pretty, I don't want to say the DJ evolved, but like at least 80% of the DJ evolved. I think, you know, Salia, I know you love talking sustainability models. Salia's sustainability corner. That's right.
Starting point is 00:41:17 I think he kind of scrambled his face off a little bit today. He was, he kind of had a little bit of the Brooks. That driver was getting shaky down the straight. Yeah, a little bit of the Brooks model going of kind of hitting it all over the ballpark and making a lot of eight footers for par and a lot of a lot of saves. So while it's awesome, I set this on the preview pod. Like I can't remember the last time I was like Dustin was always like almost such a kind of, I don't know, just like kind of a nothing thing in my head going into majors.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Like I was never really excited if, you know, he was gonna blow the doors off everybody or if he was gonna miss the cut, he was just kind of there and if he was around on Sunday, it was great to watch. But coming into this week, I'm like, God, I have no idea what he's gonna do
Starting point is 00:41:59 and that is thrilling. And so from that perspective, it was really fun to see him up there today and it's, you know, he looks great. I think he's got, I hate to say it. I think four Aces stuff is, his kit looks good, you know, he's, he's decked out. It looks like maybe he's slimming down a little bit from his, from his, his peak. But yeah, I don't know. I hope he continues to play well, but I think he played a very, very different round of golf than Scotty Sheffler today. It's a really good point.
Starting point is 00:42:26 And the sustainability models are always a sustainability corner leading the field and putting so far. This surprised me as I pulled this up. Max Homa leading the field at four strokes game putting DJ is two, Fee now three. Ryan Fox is up there. Keegan's up there. Cory Conner's up there. Eric Cole up there up there, Corey Conner's up there, Eric Cole up there. So, Corey Conner's up there. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:42:49 That's interesting. Corey Conner's is seventh in putting so far. So, we know, we know how that movie ends. If you're unfamiliar with this segment of the show, it's, you know, if somebody has a really hot putting round, you know, in round one, usually that doesn't last four rounds and usually you're looking for the guys that strike it a little bit better and are really playing well T-Degre into last 72 holes on a major championship. So yeah, there are some sustainability concerns around DJ But not not around Bryson if I may say I mean is I put it pretty average did kind of everything else good He he struck the shit out of it. Sorry. How did Kegan put Kegan was
Starting point is 00:43:24 Sixth and strokes game putty today at plus 3.4. But this feels, I got to ride with KVV. This really, I don't know, I can't put my finger on why. I guess going back to some of the, like, it feels like a very complete test. Feels like a very Kagan golf course. I know that's not what a lot of people are going to want to hear, but he kind of seems like he's going to be around. Yeah, that was just going back to our good friends at draft kings.
Starting point is 00:43:48 They have keegan at plus 2,500. That's that's interesting and ties me a little bit. I not that I necessarily trust him. God, it just feels like in this kind of sucks, but it doesn't it feel like man, if Scotty goes out and shoots 67 or 66 tomorrow, like it's going to suck all the excitement out of the weekend. It really feels like it's on his club tomorrow. And this is where I feel like I was fighting with Andy Johnson about this,
Starting point is 00:44:16 but like he's 100% right. He says it all the time that like the best golf courses in the world are the best at really separating like who's playing the best golf and they're going to really create separation on the leaderboard and I'm like, yeah, but that kind of sucks. That's great from a like we are here to identify the best golfer and that is like the goal of this committee. But I'm so with you that like it also feels like Scotty could go win by six. But this also why I freaking love majors is again, you have to play so bad in round one to be out of it. Like if you play bad in round one of a PGA Tour event, a normal PGA Tour stop, if you're like eight, nine back, it's over.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Like you're not going to, you have no chance of winning the tournament. And again, maybe just JT's come back is really fresh in my mind from last year. But like, if we want to play how far back is too fresh in my mind from last year, but like, if we want to play how far back is too far back, which I don't know if it's that, of course, we want to play. I know we do it at some point. I don't know if we want to do it now, but it's a better Friday game, but I mean, dude, I would go way down before I would say somebody is too far back to win this golf tournament.
Starting point is 00:45:19 So, you made an interesting point, Randy, about the pin locations where I almost think that if I was reading into that just a little bit, like you want to make them pretty equitable So you made an interesting point, Randy, about the pin locations where I almost think that if I was reading into that just a little bit like you want to make them pretty equitable between Friday and Thursday and Friday, right, before you make the cut. So I'd imagine they'd be really hard Thursday, really hard Friday. And then the PGA to almost like to my TV point is I think has a good habit of and Randy and Tron may disagree, but of almost like setting it up a little easier, like setting it up a little easier, like setting it up for chasing on the weekend, which to your point, Sally, like opens it up for those comebacks and all of that, which is, which is really interesting.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Uh, so yeah, a long way of saying I'm with you, I think I think it's still pretty, pretty wide open because the scoring should almost get better as the week goes on. If you were guys, Sally, though, if, because there's some obviously there's some big names at well everywhere, but let's take like plus three, for instance, what would you tell a guy there? Like what's the number in mind? Because I don't think even par, you don't really want a 70 tomorrow, right? I mean, what are you trying to get to at the end of the day tomorrow, I guess, is my question. It'll depend on how much the wind blows, but I don't think are you trying to get to at the end of the day tomorrow? I guess is my question. It'll depend on how much the wind blows, but I don't think any, if you get to plus one by
Starting point is 00:46:30 two end of day tomorrow, I still don't think you're out of it. I mean, maybe if one guy gets out and runs and runs away with it potentially, but like, that's what if I may, like shoehorn this into, I was ready to apologize for Rory at Malt. When he's putting for par from long of two today from 35 feet long of that green to that pin. I was ready to apologize. And he was awful to that. Oh, he was awful.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Riff. He was missing fairways with iron. So he hit two fairways today, two fairways today and shot one over par in his T 27. And he's got a bug of some kind. He's under the weather and I don't know if he's going to battle through it. I don't know if, you know, if I'm predicting, I got a good feeling about this other than I want to say, like, that dude battled his ass off when it looked horrific and it was, he had glimpses of that just unreal talent that we just don't see enough on Thursdays
Starting point is 00:47:22 at majors and he didn't shoot the 75 that always plays him out of these tournaments. He got it in at 71 and I just, I want to just acknowledge that and say like as we stand in here, he's one, two, three, four, five, sixth favorite on the board ahead of Colin Markow ahead of Fee now, head of Keppka, head of Rose, head of Max, head of JT, Cam Smith, Hadecki, like go down the list, can't lay plus 9,000 speed fleet. What all these dudes pretty much like out of it, and Roy did not play himself out of it today.
Starting point is 00:47:51 And I want to say I'm proud of him for that. I was going to say if you in a weird way, if you told me at the beginning of the day, Roy was going to be 90 second and Stroke's getting off the tee, like it's getting a lot worse than T27. It could have been a lot worse. It's only, it's only going to really. If he truly put, if the facial expression changes and he does the, I'm Roy fucking McElroy, like I'm not gonna do the hopeful thing.
Starting point is 00:48:12 He's hitting the 15 footers with hope. He wants them to go in. He's not making them go in. He is not doing it with conviction. I know, I know what the hopeful looks like and I know what the result is gonna be and I know what the mean looks looks like on his face and I know what that hopeful looks like and I know what the result is going to be and I know what the mean looks looks like on his face And I know what that result is going to be and it's not there as a right now
Starting point is 00:48:29 So I don't know if it's about to come but if you can find that in the next 54 holes I really do think he can back to our top five. There was a bit of mental miss going on early today, right? I mean it just looked uncommitted. It was I mean it was horrific that ball is flying way right It was not that close, but as soon as he gets out of his own way, it just, I feel like he has some, just shit. He has to get out of his, flush out of his system every major and then sometimes it runs. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:55 I don't, this could be because I put a DK Nuggie play on him. So I might just be biased and listening to my heart, but I Almost kind of love his first round today where he was so shitty and got one big momentum. Yeah, and he got one big momentum Turner and he looked freed like he looked much more freed up after that and You know came in after that par put on two, what do you do? Three birdies in a bogey, the rest of the way on his back nine, but what was the front nine?
Starting point is 00:49:32 I mean, if we're talking like, doggy, you were staring in the face of like worst case and you didn't die. And now here we are. I don't know. I look for him to play well tomorrow. I really do. And I know that's like the quintessential
Starting point is 00:49:50 for a pair to have your heart broken. But I weirdly think today was a good day for like it can't get worse. And he still managed to 21 or 71. I don't know. I think it was not bad. Nike kind of handed him and Big Tone the same playbook today. And Max, it was a very interesting, there are a lot of interesting guys that,
Starting point is 00:50:14 what was real, what clicked? Who's going to come out with momentum tomorrow? I can't wait. That's what I think this leaderboard's exciting. The only thing that's not going to make it exciting is if Scotty goes out and shoots like 66 tomorrow. Yeah, it's a good point. I'd say Rory's 3 put on 5 was like the only real heartbreak of the day. Because he flipped the momentum. He got the birdie on 3, got the birdie on 4 after saving par on 2. And he 3 putted from 35 feet on an uphill putt that he had no business with. That's God. I've seen Michelson do that's like the heat check like a man like back to earth a little
Starting point is 00:50:48 bit. Slowed out the offense. Okay. Which Brady, I got to give some credit to your guy, Michelson, by the way. Can we talk? Yeah. Out here. Out here.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Absolutely. Do it, man. He's doing it. He's going to be 53 next month. He. I mean, do you think he's got some distractions off the golf course going on right now? And for him to call, he looks so in control of his golf ball. It's so weird.
Starting point is 00:51:10 I don't understand. Making me Google these energy shoes. He's lunching on, you know, he is plus one at T 27 with two holes remaining for those that are listening. But he, I believe he's got a lengthy birdie put on 17 on 17. I think he's on that green. But it's what you said coming in on the preview pods. Allie, it's like, you know, he's essentially like defending his champion missing it last year. Finish that kid at the masters in the last major and coming to this. You're like, yeah, he's got no fucking
Starting point is 00:51:42 shit. And there's no way. And he just, I don't know. He just, he, he just, talk about just somebody who won't die. It's crazy. This driver doesn't look great, but. No. If he gets that figured out, which is kind of the story of his career, it's going to be really interesting.
Starting point is 00:51:58 But can I get a plug in for my guy, Vic Haudland? T6. You better do it now. That's what I'm saying. Smooth 68. The T-shirt. Yeah. I got him a little, a little nuggy play on him to win.
Starting point is 00:52:09 I had a really good feeling about him splitting some of these fairways and that was a really good round of golf for him. He could have made a big, big number on six when he drove it in the water there, but made a great five out of that. He had five, five birdies today, three bogies, 200 par 68, second in strokes gained approach to sustainability models. Absolutely. Love that. So what, what are the things about the security models feel about the Guy Fieri shirt? I'm, I'm ready to say I'm here. Load after the, after the round. It was really good. I mean, I'll paraphrase
Starting point is 00:52:43 it, but they're like, what's up with that shirt you're wearing today? He's like, I don't know, man. Like, I wear a lot of like, just blacks and grays when I'm not playing golf, and they pay me to wear this stuff, so I just show up and wear it. That's what I was wondering. I made a note to check on that, and I forgot,
Starting point is 00:52:59 but I figured he would say something like that. He kind of said the same thing at the Masters. You can tell he's so over, like just like the inverse Ricky. She's like, yo, this is not my personality. I don't know what you want me to say. I did not pick it. Like I like it feels basically like he's like, dude, as soon as this contract is over,
Starting point is 00:53:19 I am fucking out. But it's just, you know, Porter's tweet, it when asked to be dresses like this off the course and no, I wear a lot of gray black and that's about it. Jay Lindbergh, they give me this stuff and pay me money to do so. So I just show up and where would they want me to wear?
Starting point is 00:53:34 I got to say though, the polo was working for me. I don't know why, but the polo was actually working for me today. The polo was horrific. Jay Lindbergh needs to be stopped badly. But I don't know why, but the polo was working for me today. The pullover was horrific. Jaylen Brignese be stopped badly. But I don't know why, but the polo was working for me. That was one of his better. That's certainly your right.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Yeah. That's your within your right to feel that way. I just, you know, we don't have to necessarily support it. I like the comment right now. Victor shirt would melt Neil's wings. We should that should be a money round shirt for Neil. Can I throw out a nominee for garbage play to the day? And that's John Rom.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Yeah. Throat did not see this coming through up a one of the most uncharacteristic 76s. I feel like I can remember watching from Rom. I mean, it was just nothing there, not really even the fire in the anger. It was just kind of a resignation to just hitting it very bad, putting it very, very bad. And I don't like, I still don't want to say he's out of this golf tournament. I know that sounds absolutely insane.
Starting point is 00:54:37 I know it does. I know it does. I'm aware of it, but he's probably out of it. But if it's anyone that could make a ferocious come back from plus six, uh, six over it's from what what kind of odds would I have had to give you to say, uh, ramen, white Yang, we're going to be tied at the end of round one. Our guy, why it worries and beat Rob today. Club pro from from Gahanna hang your hang your hat on that.
Starting point is 00:55:00 He was fellow podcast star host, JJ Colleen West Texas, Trivigrage bro is beating wrong by four shots right now. Unbelievable. It's incredible. That's, you know, I don't really know what you can say other than, you know, sometimes life be like that. Like I think I think he's, he's earned one of those. So I feel for the Grand Slam.
Starting point is 00:55:20 I was certainly in an arrow. I'm not going to roll out the grandson, but I will say there's a very good chance that Sunday we're going to look back and be like, man, if rom could have just shot like 72. Like if you can just got it in the house like because I feel plausible. Right. He's going to do. He's not, I will bet he's not going to miss the cut. I really don't think he's going to miss the cut.
Starting point is 00:55:37 I think he's going to come out and do something tomorrow. You someone say you can't hold this guy down. Jay, I'm going to call in the question Jay Day strategy of playing zero practice rounds at this golf course. It was interesting. That was 76 for him today. It did not go great. I got, I got some bones to pick while we're here.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Oh, okay. And it doesn't quite look as good right now as it did. Let's say, you know, two and a half hours ago. But I pulled up the PGA tour app, Code Man, if you have that graphic, you can flash it. And I wanted to go to total stroke gain, you know, let's, let's look at the best, the best players on tour this year, right? And I'll leave Ram out of it. I think, I think 76 today was certainly abnormal for him. Sheffler of course, shot 67. But then starting at number three in strokes gained
Starting point is 00:56:34 on the tour this year through, we show through the 11 spot, not a single guy shot under par. And in fact, Ricky Fowler, what was he, who over? go on the bottom to top, some Jm nine over Fleetwood to over, home a one, just to double click on some day, you know, playing career last week, I think maybe I don't know, Neil liked it. He said the beluga is breaching. So I, you know, who might have believed that was it was an interesting strategy. If we're going to if we're going to clown Jason day, I'd
Starting point is 00:57:10 like to maybe can't lay shoes for over hat and shoot seven over zanders, two over females two over. And again, I say, you know, midway through a lot of those guys around, it looked much worse. And I just got to say guys, we we need, Sully, I know Data Golf tries to do this, but I'm calling for some type of multiplier in the stats when it comes to major tournaments. We got to separate out these guys like Patrick Cantlay, who just time it again, no show, Xander, not, you know, I have no, he's been and has some top tens. But these guys just Fleetwood, I'm sorry TC, but I got a call out Fleetwood. I'm sick of watching these guys become little boys when the lights get bright. I would subscribe to your sub stack that was an organization of strokes gained in the
Starting point is 00:58:03 majors. That seems that that's the like. And in that end, I would like to curate the list. Give me the four majors, give me Riviera. I don't think it's every LA elevated event, but certainly let's take like the premier events, the players. And those are the stats I want to see. I don't.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Stroke's getting real events. Yeah. Stroke's getting like, hey, the lights are bright. There. I got some great news for you, baby. Loomans. I got some great news. You can go to the major performers tab on the Data Golf website and you can look exactly at a plot that is fascinating to dig into, which is, you know, what do your strokes gain look like in majors versus
Starting point is 00:58:44 what do they look like in normal tor events? And unfortunately, I got Max Homa's heavily featured in the wrong side of the graph, which shows his strokes gain in non majors. And then to go up way up to the top there, Will's out torus jumps off the page of, hey, at big boy golf tournaments, I outperform as you might guess Brooks Kepp goes right up there with them. When the big boy golf tournaments come on, this is what I do in them. So this exists. This is out there Credit to them because I on a serious note isn't isn't that it's everything that what it's all about everything totally
Starting point is 00:59:16 I totally agree with you. There's there's four events a year That really matter to your legacy and your standing in the in the historical that really matter to your legacy and your standing in the historical context of the game. And I want to know who elevates for those events and who consistently underperforms because I don't have time for those underperformers. You know what I love, absolutely love seeing the overperformers, Randy. If you look kind of like the top left almost of the The Ricky Barnes Yeah, Ricky he would he would come out he would have great
Starting point is 00:59:55 Thank you Five at some random US open Ricky Barnes once led the US open by seven He had a seven shot lead at Beth Page in 09. I'll say this though. Dave Lingmer. Dog. Big time. I'll say this though.
Starting point is 01:00:11 It's hard. I totally, totally agree with you, but it's hard because there's so much bigger sample size of the regular events of dudes that just show out and perform very consistently. And it is small sample size with majors. By the end of somebody's career, if they have a differing stat,
Starting point is 01:00:27 that's like, hey, you did the Brooks Keppka thing, like that's obviously noteworthy if you do. Like even Greg Norman, like he was slight under performer in majors over the course of his career. And So I 100% agree with that. That's completely rational.
Starting point is 01:00:45 And also though, and getting back to Mikkelsen, how much better is Mikkelsen's major record at 58, 50 years old and older than a lot of these guys that we're talking about who should presumably be in their prime. And it just speaks like, Mikkelsen's actually a great player. And I just think a lot of these guys are good players. But man, if you're not, if you're not elevating four times a year,
Starting point is 01:01:14 it just sucks. I'm, and I'm so sick of Patrick can't like get him out of here. I hate it. This, there's, there's, I'm trying to pissed at Kim Young too, sorry. There's a lot of guys that are good at offense, right? And in the playoffs, defense wins, right? And a lot of major championships are like, can you play both sides of the ball? Basically, can you scramble your ass off for par
Starting point is 01:01:36 and make parties? And like, Zander and Cantlay, Zander's got a good major record. I'm not going to slide him. Cantlay, good at playing offense and just has a truly horrific major championship record. It's stunning. Like Phil has more top two finishes. Phil's got two top two finishes in majors, post 50 years old, and Cantlay doesn't have any of them in his career. And he's
Starting point is 01:01:58 like obviously an incredible player and it's proven it, but falls like just totally is a non factor. Shame on you, DJ, for falling for the Cantlay. You and T.C. fell for Cantlay. I put a play on them too. Okay, shame on both of you. I know, I'm not immune. It's horrendous. I think there's something kind of funny.
Starting point is 01:02:16 This is a conversation for another day, maybe, but the, it's funny how differently these guys would be treated if this this if golf was any other sport Because Patrick can't lay is objectively one of by any measure like one of the 10 best players Like one of the 10 best golfers on the PJ tour Right and the fact that he just can has laid an egg in almost every major is like imagine if that was a Quarterback imagine if that was like one of the 10 most popular quarterbacks in in the NFL, it would be a fucking blood bath. And now it's just kind of like, ah, well, you know, Scottie's played well. So who cares? It's just me. Three top 10 in 24 major,
Starting point is 01:02:55 the public service. Three top 10s and 24 majors for Kale. And I realize, of course, I realize golf is a different sport of course, but it's the game they've signed up for. And yeah, DJ to your point, these guys want to, you know, we're real athletes. We want to be true like real athletes. Yeah, imagine if you were in a market and you just consistently shit the bed on the biggest stages, how would you handle that? I got a feeling Cantlay wouldn't enjoy the spotlight of the New York media. Adam Scott's outfit today.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Did we dig it? Do we approve? I think I'm in. I know that's going to maybe be unpopular, but T.C. and I were side-barring discussing it a little bit. And the best analogy I think I can come up with was like, whatever big tones doing was horrible, horrible was horrible, a horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible.
Starting point is 01:03:46 What? He was absolutely stunting on the haters. I thought big tones and Nike fit was the best of all the. He was pulling it off. Little kid going to Easter brunch. Oh, come on. Oh, come on. Come on.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Uh, whatever Adam Scott was doing was like, that's high fashion. Like, you don't have to like it, but you have to at least be like be like that's provocative. Let me I'm gonna have to sit with that for a second Big tone is loudmouth golf like let's just try to mess up the saturation on people's TVs It was just it was disgusting and I say that as as a huge big-tone fan I I always feel bad. Like I don't want to come. Adam Scott's outfit did not offend me.
Starting point is 01:04:28 I just figure it's like, oh, that must be like a European thing. And it'll probably get here in like four years. I don't know. It's one of those that like puts the bonus on you of just like, oh, maybe I'll be did. I don't know. Maybe I don't get it. It constantly makes me just feel like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:04:41 I'm just like not a good dresser. So I think tone is kind of a Supreme Court. I know what I see it situation. I think big tone is flexing and stunting because he's one of the only guys that can pull off something like that. He's just got the, the bill to pull off basically. That's true. That, there's a lot of truth to that.
Starting point is 01:04:58 And, and I commend big tone for, for going there because it would look doubly bad at anybody else. Yeah. I'd like to compliment TC who said on the first day that Fina will look fresh as hell. tone for going there because it would look doubly bad at anybody else. Yeah. I'd like to compliment TC who said on the first day that Finaal looked fresh as hell. And then by the 16th hole said he looked like a clown. I forget what the exact words were. But I had a-
Starting point is 01:05:14 No, but like the fifth hole. Yeah, like the sixth hole. Who's dressed at Big Toe? This is the or- I remember grinding my feet on Big Toe Tows moment from drop today in the slack. A fantastic booberyering on that one. But oh, we have talked about top, Kim. Gosh, that's the reason why you watch 14 hours of coverage was
Starting point is 01:05:33 there's ESPN's get ready to go to commercial break. And all of a sudden, Tom Kim emerges, uh, unwashed masses emerged from the Greek. He fell into the creek all the way up to his pockets of his pants. He was like getting sucked into the quicksand. He couldn't get out. Yeah. It's not, it's generally scary there for a second.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Emergence just we've lost young Tom Kim. I've never seen someone in the quicksand. Like he's gone. Oh, he's gone. We can't get him. He's done. They can't even send in a rescue team. It's too dangerous. Try to get a chopper. We could hover if it. No, he's he's toast. We've seen guys get like mud splattered on them after hitting a shot on them. I've never seen somebody caked in this much mud to play a golf tournament. He's stuck up to his waist.
Starting point is 01:06:21 just to play a golf tournament. Literally, some golf team was waste. You can get out. My only thought was like, God, damn, I wish we had a shot clock in golf. I wanted to see if Rush to try to hit a shot like that. He played the rest of the round with his pants rolled up in like Caprice. He took his shirt off and put his sweater on over top
Starting point is 01:06:40 with nothing underneath it. It was truly a fantastic ball, but he did not seem embarrassed by any of it, too, he kind of played it off like it was normal and was surprised that it was all over TV when he was done, but that was a fantastic ball. But he actually played decent golf once he had to roll up his pants, too.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Great graphic for me, SPN, that was like showing some stats with a little like qualifier on the bottom is after being stuck in mud. It's really maybe a lot. And they were ready to go commercial and they stayed all the way through Simi Sonic closing time. Yeah, they kept playing closing time.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Got through like the whole five minute song. It was just blaring. What a what a weird kind of is topian moment of the broadcast there. Very, very strange. That was fantastic. I love Patrick Taylor's comment on the screen is is avatars also John Van Develle standing in the water. Exactly. I was going to say the, you know, got to give credit to Tom Kim for going after that ball, though.
Starting point is 01:07:37 That's a guy that wants to can't wait to go and do it. Half two because it doesn't seem like it was the right call. I'm not going to get that ball. He sees these bad whatever he cares. We'll pack up and go home early. We'll get a couple days extra rest. We didn't play in this segment. So I'm putting you guys on the spot, but any other garbage plates of the day?
Starting point is 01:07:52 You guys want to throw out? You know, it's disappointing any any other disappointment. Fits. Yeah. It's I think 76, right? Not good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Can I can I throw attention on this? The Taylor Montgomery thing might be kind of over. Yeah. I know. Me and TC should have unloaded that stock. Well, we pump a dump. I know. Don't have a sitting on a pretty bad holding right now. What else? I said, Cam. Cam. Yeah. Was a big disappointment for me. I think think Cantla is well on his way to a garbage plate. Still got to play 17 and 18. And he's sitting in plus four. Not great. Sam Burns. We talked about whether it's Bermuda Burns time. This was clearly not not going to be on the course fit for for Torontoized models. Harris English. Anybody want to apologize for that? I apologize for TC for that.
Starting point is 01:08:47 If you want to. TC did not get that from my source. I want to be very clear about that. That was a rogue declaration that he was flushing in. Davis, love it. There's a false profit. Yeah, I'll tell you that. That is not my source on C.
Starting point is 01:09:01 I just want just for the record. Xander shot 72 today, too, over. And I just want to caution everyone for lumping those two in together when it comes to their major records. Okay. Because the I know I think my big thing was Xander is he's never, you know, we don't have to get into it. You're right, though. He's got 10 top 10s in 23 major starts to this point.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Whereas, but has he? What? Dej. Can you make a shot at the master's any content? Yeah, the Hadek you masters when he, when he hit the water. That was tough. And he, he, he was T2 at the 2019 masters to, to Tiger as well. So one shot behind him again. So well, just, just, just, just no worthy.
Starting point is 01:09:44 That's based on your numbers. Uh, Scotty Sheffler pays a play today. Uh, there's a video going around before I got DMCAed of him taking five minutes to hit a shot on 14. I believe it has been later, uh, source that the green had not been cleared for about two and a half minutes and that he didn't know his turn. It tends to happen on social media every now and again. Yeah, that's wild.
Starting point is 01:10:12 He's slow though. He is slow. He's slow. He's extremely slow. And that was not the only slow issue we have felt like we had watching him today. So just something worth monitoring. But any topics we've been light on to this point.
Starting point is 01:10:27 I think we didn't really mention, you know, it's not super relevant to the competition, but the fact that Bryson hit a fellow competitor with a golf ball. Forgot that. I can't. Can he pick me? Which the growth, like very quick to show the growth
Starting point is 01:10:42 of Bryson. He yelled for, and he Andy apologize like he's growing I'm just the pig man now Just roll it around in the void Well shout out to poor after you had the tweet of Bryson shirtless fried up the bacon and then you know you hit Kenny pig man Really good stuff Do you guys want to bring our Tom Kim discussion
Starting point is 01:11:06 to the airwaves? Feel like a lot of some guys are... John the Baptist one? You guys are sliding TK's resume to this point or projection. Yeah, no, no, no, no, that's not what we're doing at all. Okay. Rainy, my associate can speak on that.
Starting point is 01:11:21 So let me take a crack at it and you jump in where I have it wrong. I think TC.C. was obviously getting in the slack, getting on young Tom Kim. His quote was, when do we consider Tom Kim a fraud? He made a few puts at the president's cup and everyone fell in love with him. That was it. Two wins that I was going to get. So all I did was reply. I'm calling them a mule a little bit. Yeah, what the wids were.
Starting point is 01:11:46 So I just said, maybe we can reassess, you know, in three years when he gets to 23, which is lead book's age, which is, yeah, just to get him right up. It worked. It did. And to be fair to TC, I think his point is there's no more projection left with Tom Kim. He's he seems like a finished product.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Oh, come on. He's not even 21. And He seems like a finished product. Oh, come. He's not even 21. You're called a finished product. That's at least physically, right? I mean, I mean, I don't know. I want the record. T.C. was screenshot and stuff for his official record, you know, who knows? But I wanted to make it clear. If I am on team Ludwig, I think, you know, give me Ludwig over the next 10 years. Again, I think the big thing is like, I know, Sali has a bit of, I know he has a bit more distance than people realize. He's still very, very, very much on the shorter side of things. He's barely below average right now, barely below average.
Starting point is 01:12:46 But still, how many barely below average, you guys, like Randy, to your point, and sorry, I would love to hear your rebuttal to this. When we're talking about majors, we're talking about like really, really big ball parks. So like, do I think Tom Kim is could go win eight times on the PJ tour? Like, totally. Yeah. Like, so does Kantei. Like, that doesn't really do much for me, man. Like, do I think he's going to be beating up major championships? Like I kind of don't. And that's based on how his game sets up. And so if you want to ride for him to be an all-time like
Starting point is 01:13:16 middle of the pack, PJ tour player, like that's a thrilling conversation. I'd love to let I love to talk about that. All-time middle of the pack. I don't know what that means. That's that's kind of the joke is like I just what he like what are you projecting here? What do you think it's gonna happen? I just have an issue one with calling him a fraud to this point as a two-time PGA tour winner before turning 21. And Tron Tron Tron's had a busy week, you know? He's got his nose all restructured. He's he's running hot. Let's let's not linger on the on the Samam thing. Well, I just feel like the people are souring on him a little bit and haven't recognized that one. He has a supreme accuracy skill. He's one of the most
Starting point is 01:13:49 accurate drivers off the tee. And as you know, he was about seven yards below average and distance. He's now closer to two yards below average and distance, which is not a small leap that may sound small, but that's not a small leap. He's still developing some physically. He's got iron skill. He's got a very strong approach gain skill He does not maybe you know, maybe the putting isn't even fully developed this year, but he's gotten Basically doubled his strokes gained over the last year from a breakout season in 2020 I think there is still room to fill out here. Yes, he doesn't project well with the bombing and like the bombers are what's going to be the top 10 players in the world But it'd be a mistake to underrate his ability, just because it's like the era, the era of bombers.
Starting point is 01:14:30 And then he's not one of them. Because again, if we would be freaking out if it was like an American player that had one twice before turning 21 years old, like we would be freaking the fuck out. And like, speed does not dominate physically. Like he's not enormous build. And we weren't saying anywhere close to saying he's maxed out when he was 20 years old. Yeah. I mean, that's fair.
Starting point is 01:14:56 I don't think it's. He's smelling new stuff. I think he's picking up hints of Ricky Fowler that just weren't there before, you know, he had a surgery. I thought, and this could be a historically, historically bad take, but I thought Ryan Moore, I think like, Hey, man, a guy who just like these peaks don't last for very long. And I'm not saying, you know, that there was like, he had a bit of a spieth magic run there, right? And like, that doesn't last forever as we're seeing with the spieth now. And spieth happened to go out and get you know two majors during
Starting point is 01:15:29 his magic run. And maybe Tom Kim will will do that as well. But I think what's more likely is that you have a guy who just has a Supreme ability to drive the golf ball straight. Supreme ability like hit his long arms really well and he tends to put pretty good. Like I just don't see going and having a 20 year PJ tour career where you're not just like we just saw Luke Donald in Italy. Guy was number one in the world for a year and still was like, I need to like blow this up and get longer. Like I can't see somebody just like sitting out there for 20 years and not being like,
Starting point is 01:16:02 I just I really great to have a little more distance. Like, I think he's, if I'm being, maybe this is pessimistic, but if I'm looking at it like long term, I just kind of see the like really nice career and probably tries to flirt with raising his ceiling and, you know, maybe gets there, maybe doesn't. So I'll be a pessimist and say that he doesn't. But I still think he's got a great career ahead of him. I love watching him. Love his energy. I think he's really
Starting point is 01:16:28 funny. He's great to be around. Like I hope he wins everything. But I'm, you know, got a column like you see him. I love it that he doesn't win with Fee now. And then Tom Kim comes out wins twice before he turns 21. I didn't just see more. I just need to see more. Not that's not what I'm saying at all. It's unbelievably impressive. I just, you know, we're talking about the next 10 years here. I would say his club head speed is also. Not everybody, not everybody can be the top five player in the world.
Starting point is 01:16:53 There's only five of them. His club head speed's up two months, and that's not what you're sure. It's almost stink. It's almost stink. Yeah. I think that's really what it gets down to. Hey, I have a question for you guys, not on the agenda,
Starting point is 01:17:04 but I'm just going to toss it out. And it has to do with our boy Eric Cole. I mean, we are way overdue for a total out of left field, you know, one and done lightning strike winner. What if it's Eric Cole? It's funny. I looked up coming into this week. What Sean McKeele's world ranking was when he won. I think it was like 179 or something like that. Whatever it was. I think it was the same as Calum Terran who I've been keeping my eye on as well. T27. But Eric Cole could be a could be the guy Randy. I mean he's unfortunately been playing some really good golf. I think I read I read he won like 57 times on like mini tours. Which is sweet. I'm not making fun of you.
Starting point is 01:17:52 I know that you took Honda week off because he almost won the Honda. And like when you win, I, I, I, again, I'm not making fun of you. When Randy takes a week off, he's not like checking in on the golf. Like he, he missed all of this, what had happened. Like he literally almost won Honda.
Starting point is 01:18:07 And all of that came out. And like honestly, Randy heard of Eric Cole for the first time today. No, y'all literally could have pretend like he was a club pro. And I would have probably gone along with it. I kind of thought it was a bit when you, in our Slack where you're like,
Starting point is 01:18:21 oh yeah, who is Eric Cole? Is he a club pro? But I was a little bit, I'm like, dude, he totally missed Honda and has no idea what's going on right now. What, what is he kind of like a Ted Potter character? Just a big grind and forever? I think it's an interesting comp. Two famous parents, as you, as you probably heard on the broadcast, you know, Laura Baugh, the famous LPJ player, is his mom, is dad played on the PGA tour for a couple of years.
Starting point is 01:18:49 And then yeah, I think kind of a mini tour legend got through the corn fairy tour and got his card and nearly cashed it all in, which was kind of like the poster boy for the non elevated events, right? That was like when everybody walked away from that week, just being like, you know what, you can argue, this might even be better than the designated events. What a story. What a story.
Starting point is 01:19:09 And I kept making the joke that was like, everybody loves like the come up, right? And everybody loves watching like Eric Cole might change his life at the Honda. Like that's legitimately a really cool thing to watch on a Sunday afternoon when the fields not very good. And my joke the time was always like well like when the majors come around though like I don't want to watch Eric cold like you could you could like get him out of here and he's kind of throwing in my face this week so good for him I guess you know if we want to play by or sell we can we can do Eric cold tomorrow night you guys if he's at the top of leaderboard tomorrow night, we can we can do that. I'm not on the show tomorrow night.
Starting point is 01:19:46 So you guys can do that. So what what was the last dud major winner? Like who was the last mega outside the box major championship winner? It's not Gary Woodland depends on the metric. Yeah. Well, it's your own individual metric, I would say. Individual metric would be the homie Jimmy Walker, but sorry, he was really good. Oh, like for sure That's not an individual metric. I would say I'm like a Greg your own cutoff like Jimmy
Starting point is 01:20:18 Will it see people throw Danny Will in there all the time Danny will talk in the world 12th in the world Yeah, no, no, no. I didn't like him winning. Yeah, you don't have to like it, but you have to respect it. Yeah, let's take it. Let's leave it. Let's go. That's what it hasn't been. Has there been somebody outside the top 50 in the last 10 years?
Starting point is 01:20:36 Like what was Schwarzel? Schwarzel was up there too. He was beating up the Euro tour at the time. I remember picked him in my master's pool that year. Duffer. No, Duffer was. Oh, Duffer one like white. You would top 50 in the world. For sure. Oh, in 2013. Yeah. You won the Byron Nelson. He won, uh, what did he win Zurich? Maybe Cody? I think he was out of nowhere that right. The, the, the major he lost. Yeah, you're getting free apologize, Cody. the the major he lost. Yeah, you're getting free apologize Cody free apologize right now.
Starting point is 01:21:06 I got you Cody. Summer saying emblem in here. Yeah, that's a good one. How's a long time ago? We're going way back. Why Yang? For sure. I mean, that's that's I think you're kind of a car.
Starting point is 01:21:21 It's probably the answer. Duffner was eight in the world when he won. What? Yeah. Yeah, 2011. That's what he's like, yeah, sorry, mate. I guess I was in Syria that was. I'm.
Starting point is 01:21:33 I'm. What was that? Extraplated radio. Eric Cole's situation. 13. I was jumping into Benghazi. Darren Clark was 11 in the world at the beginning of July in 2011. Yeah, that's gotta be the first time.
Starting point is 01:21:49 It's hard to call him a dud winner, but yeah, it's that's what on his question. What was Rick Fowler? No, Phil was just still been pretty high up there. I was going to say what was Phil in 2021, but he probably would have still been top 50. Yeah, he was kind of far like 60ish or something 70 maybe. I will just say this though, I do not think we're going to get a dud winner. I don't either. I think it's going to be Scotty by maybe a two hands worth. Even if I say that is a dud winner.
Starting point is 01:22:17 Not Corey Conner. Corey Conner's is moving the ball, man. Corey's getting a little hybrid in the bag. It's perfect. Poofing them out of the rough. I know he was in a couple of those heaven woods out of the rough. Phil was 116. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:22:32 I really think Ryan Fox is so damn good. And it just seems like not a lot really phases him. He's just like the dad who shows up for like little league practice and then has like men's league after that and crushes like it doesn't beers and then goes home and like cooks his old lady dinner and like snuggles with their own couch. Like he just seems like he's got everything working for him and not a lot of phases. I might need to spend tomorrow diving in on Ryan Fox, learning a little bit more because I'm with you every time he comes on the screen. I'm like, all right, like tell me more. I'm interested. You know, I couldn't tell you much of what's going on. I know he's kind of a legend amongst the the Kiwis, but he doesn't. He doesn't. We had a lot of fun in our in our slack today. Joking about. He doesn't look a lot like a Torpro. It looks like a dude that just
Starting point is 01:23:18 cleans up at like, you know, all of the area matches. Like he wins every he's won seven straight club championships. And like if you draw this thing, it, he played off a two. Yeah, he's played off a two. He's kind of just a fucking men as you know, he gets a he was probably going to make it on tour. He tours rotate or cuff playing softball. And like, he might give Q school a shot. He got drafted. I know. You got drafted by the pirate. He played rugby too in New Zealand. And yeah, he just, he just matched, absolutely matches on the ball. But look, I mean, these, these big boy majors, big boy golf courses, if he's there at fort, I will tip my hat if he's there after four rounds. But like, holy shit, we got so far to go, guys, so far to go. Hey, guys, you knew who I like. No, we got so far to go guys, so far to go. Hey guys, you knew I like, no, he better not freaking make me look bad tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:24:10 I love what I saw from the pro Max home today. TC made a comment in the Slack thread about man, I wish he'd settle down and take his, I love how intense Max was today. I he was, he was, he had some red asset times. I love seeing that Max was today. He was, he had some red asset times. I love seeing that out of him. That was great. I'm ready for him to shoot a 67 tomorrow. I think he's going to be, I think he's going to be in contention.
Starting point is 01:24:35 I really do. I set it in the preview pod too and it was not feeling great about it after the first three holes when he started with two bogies. But kind of what we set up front, like very complete golf course. I think Max is a very, very complete player, right? He drives it long enough. He drives it straight enough.
Starting point is 01:24:52 He hits Zyrens great. If he can make some putts, like I'm totally with you. I think he'll be there. I'm obligated as much as, you know, as much as I'm riding. I love to ride for the pro sustainability models. I would like to point out he's number one in the show's game putting to this point I just I'm obligated to point it out. I know I know that the counter to that is you got to have a hot week putting Sometimes the major I just got to see him strike the ball a little bit a lot better. That's right. That's what I was gonna say is the
Starting point is 01:25:16 Yeah, counter that way seven dreams doesn't usually hit it that bad, right? And hopefully you know He's I think the major things getting getting to him a little bit probably, right? And he's probably pressing a little hard and holding on a little tight and I think he wants it. And I love to see guys who look like they want it. I think that's what, sorry, but that's what so often is missing to me when I watch PGA tour golf. It's like, which one of you actually want this? I can't tell. Can I, can I, can I, can I devil's advocate here?
Starting point is 01:25:45 Can I, can I public defender this bit, Randy? Cause you're this hard on any golfer anywhere ever. Max, incredible player, abysmal major championship record and you're, you're giving me, I love this. I love this. I love this. What makes this different? Cause he wants it.
Starting point is 01:25:59 Doesn't mean he deserves your respect in this regard. Oh, I heard it. And with the radio, he knows it. That was, that was what today was about. And the ear test. God, I don't know. They're ready. He know of it. That was I test. That was what today was about. And the ear test. God, I heard him dog cussing himself. I forget what whole that was. Maybe after the bogey on it was somewhere on the front nine or his back nine. Or he played him in order. I it must have been 11 where he bogeyed that part three. He
Starting point is 01:26:20 was he was dog cussing himself came right back with a birdie on 12. Of course, I'm biased from Max. Like, you know, shocker He was he was dog cussing himself came right back with a birdie on 12 Of course I'm biased from max like you know shocker there, but I do love the compete I he showed me a lot of compete today and I think that's what I'm looking for and You know again, he might shoot 75 tomorrow and make me look terrible that you know We that's certainly a possibility But I think he's too talented. I think he knows because I tell him a lot, you know, his major record stinks. And I think he wants it really bad.
Starting point is 01:26:52 And I think it is going to happen. I think this is your fault then. I think you must be putting this in his head. I'm too much pressure on the boy. Yeah. And I saw he crushed the New York Times many today. The kids starting to feel himself. Which, let me ask this.
Starting point is 01:27:03 He, uh, he texted me before the round and he said, hey, I'm really feeling a grilled ham and cheese for lunch, but I don't want to call it that. Is there something else I could call it that would still get my order across? I was like, I don't know. I think you just call the grilled ham and cheese. I don't know if there's a swear clue.
Starting point is 01:27:22 I don't know if that. Oh. Yeah, that makes more sense more say yeah from the Wednesday. I got God We got we got him hooked on crosswords. It was a clue on the Wednesday That's gummy No, it's gummy. Yeah, I totally thought we were talking about lunch. I missed I missed that I'm talking about this deli right down the street from my house. I go there all the time. I always call it grill.
Starting point is 01:27:46 I have a cheese. Now it ended up being I see somebody say a Monty Christo in the New York times on Wednesday. It ended up being a Cuban, which technically is a grilled cheese. You got some other stuff on there and things of that nature. I do not like the pro play in the game that way. If you want to do that, if you want to do the crossword, it's got be on your own of course you do you're right you're right edge. You're right too hard for max here I got all the jack Warner in the comments max is a strap champion That's what today's round remind me of DJ. You remember how much you wanted it at Griffith Park for Neal and myself
Starting point is 01:28:19 That's what I will and you know what he did that day too. He potted well It's willing puts into the hole You know we shouldn't look at that like a bad thing. Hey max. I'm not gonna And you know what he did that day too? He potted well. He's willing puts into the hole. You know, we shouldn't look at that like a bad thing at the time. Hey, Max, I'm not going to treat you with kid gloves like these guys. These guys do. You're a bigger talent than what your major record shows. And I'm not going to, I'm not going to sit here and, and glad hand your, your T27 standing right now.
Starting point is 01:28:38 I know you're capable of a lot more. And these guys just don't believe in you the way that I believe in you. So I'll say that. Anything else before we wrap it tonight? No, I think RIP to Tom Kim, his family. You know, I think he had a great career. Adam, unfortunately, he's a cup of the blood out there. But you know, so that'll be hard for the players out there tomorrow to be played with a heavy heart,
Starting point is 01:29:04 but you know, so that'll be hard for the players out there tomorrow to be played with a heavy heart, but, you know, the show goes on. Oh, yeah, my guy, my guy with the blanket, kind of say for, for those who don't. If you're, if you're watching, we got a 25% off in the pro shot, I think. No, for those just listening on the podcast, God, there were two like just, this is probably unfair. It kind of look like maybe stoner. Not teens, but maybe early 20s. And one kid is just watching.
Starting point is 01:29:30 I think that's happened. He just has the biggest blanket around his shoulders with like an off kilter bucket hat. Love that look. I've never been this prepared for anything in my life as this kid was for this, this evening to cool off. He brought a blanket to a golf tournament out there. I'm guessing he was, you know, just in the neighborhood. And they're like, eh, just going on around the corner. You want to walk out there as a kid?
Starting point is 01:29:53 It's kind of cold. I was going to grab the blanket. That's great. I mean, and also you just spread it out. If you find a hole where nobody's watching, spread it out. Maybe take a snooze. I mean, that's great. Some programming notes.
Starting point is 01:30:06 Neil is going to be on ESPN. I think with Maddie and the Cadi, I believe it around two o'clock tomorrow. If you want to see that, he's going to give a little preview for. We are going to be on ESPN plus our own mega cast feed, whatever you want to call it, from 10 a.m. Eastern to 1 p.m. Eastern on both Saturday and Sunday,
Starting point is 01:30:27 only on ESPN Plus. Overseas people, I don't know how you watch it. However, you would watch ESPN Plus. I really don't know the answer to that. You need to reach out to Steven A. Smith. Yes, he will. All the information on that. He will give you everything you need there.
Starting point is 01:30:42 I am also out for the remainder of this week. I'm turning the keys over to the substitute teachers. My wife is getting is graduating this weekend. So I'll be at her graduation. If something crazy happens I'll be happy to call in but will not be watching the golf DJ. You're gonna man the Twitter? Are you gonna be on the ones and twos? Yes, suppose. Yeah, I can pop in. Pop in every now and again. It's not gonna to be prolific, but we'll keep the ship flow. Randy volunteer to do it if you don't go to do it. We love to.
Starting point is 01:31:14 Thank you everyone for tuning in. Cody, thank you for running the ones and twos. Thank you, high noon. Thank you, miss and in main. Thank you, draft kings. Pre-Thank you to Scotty Shephler for not running away with it. Let's just wheel that into existence. Thank you for Bryson to Bryson for being back. And I am very excited. I'm sad to miss this weekend. This has been a
Starting point is 01:31:34 great major through through 18 holes. And I'm going to miss a lot of it. But as part of growing up, I will say one thing, just so people are asking already, you will be their Saturday on the ESPN plus I will be from the hotel I'll be on Saturday, but will not be on any live shows the remainder of this week Correct that is that is that is the fact first major I've missed since I think 2013 So I'm very sad to do this but code man. I want the people to know I'm gonna be on the Sunday ESPN plus And I want people to know that's an 8 a.m. Start locally for
Starting point is 01:32:06 your boy, which is probably a 6 a.m. call time, which is a big, big sacrifice for me. So you're welcome. Well, we asked if you needed me to fly out to, uh, to be producer and, and weying for you there. If you needed a wake up buddy, but it's gonna be, it's gonna be a lot like our weekly Monday meetings where somebody would be trying to get a point off of you. Here, Rady's coffee grinder, the background. Oh, sorry, guys. Yeah, real quick. Oh, this is ready. Yeah, I'm on. All right. Thank you, everyone, for tuning in. This was a blast. I hope it is a wonderful major championship weekend and Friday and may have some guests. Maybe maybe a guest tomorrow. We're still working that out. But fun stuff to come. Thanks
Starting point is 01:32:50 for tuning in. We'll see you back here tomorrow night. Cheers.

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