No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 689: Charles Schwab Challenge Recap

Episode Date: May 29, 2023

Emiliano Grillo wins at Colonial, and we recap our week on site, the final dramatics, Colonial's renovation, Michael Block, more Michael Block, Claude Harmon's comments, LPGA Match Play, news and notes from around the world of golf, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah! That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Expect anything different! Better than most. V is here. Sorry, Kevin. There are no holiday weekends now when you work for a golf media company because golf never stops. Welcome to the Sunday night Memorial Day episode, which is I know

is exactly where you want to be. Hello, Kevin. I'm feeling so patriotic right now. So I'm ready to just run through a wall. People can't see this, but your face is very red. I assume you're just going for a red, white and blue theme of some kind, but he's been out doing the barbecue scene. It looks like today. Yes, I feel like my face has been red since about, like I was turned 40, so I'm a little bit worried that it's like a permanent thing, but yeah, I did a little play a little golf,

they put a little family scramble. The family and I shot two under on our course through nine holes, so. Is that a personal record? No, no father's day, we shot four under. So we like to keep track about that. My little my little one is a bit of a psycho golfer these days and so she Really wants to go out all the time and play basically got her roped into women's league tomorrow in our club

She's about there with like the older ladies and just absolutely Just flushing them. I imagine what she could shoot from where Roy drives it. I think we'll probably get to that. Even the world class all around. You guys are classless, classless to go after Blocky this early in the show. This episode is brought to you by our friends at Titleist and the most played drivers on the PGA tour at the Titleist T SR. Titleles drivers have been the Taurus top choice for the last four seasons and counting with six of the top 11 players in the corrupt O. W. G. R.

Currently gaming a title as driver I editorialize the word corrupt in there that was not at the end copy. But it's the same story this week amongst the best players in division one men's college golf with title is making up 40% of the drivers in play at the at the NCAA championship. Titles is also the number one ball. We know that and most played equipment brand at the NCAA's from drivers and irons to voki wedges and Scotty Cameron putters.

And one thing is for sure, these guys are dialed into their equipment with the with their TSR driver family. Titles has designed four different models to ensure every player can maximize their speed and performance off the tee. I've played like nine holes total. I think this whole month, aside from like two filming trips, I think I found a little something with the driver. I was setting up way too close, but more on that later, we're I feel like every three weeks, I find something different every time I

never stick with anything. It's it's really, really exciting. I do get I get a lot of mental reps lately. So no matter where you tend to strike it on the face, a titles fitter can dial in the T. S. R. driver that's right for your game If you haven't been fit you aren't playing your best golf It really is that simple head to titleist calm and find a titleist fitter near you TC you and I both we we didn't see each other out there But we both spent a little time and for it worth this week at the Charles Schwab challenge. How was how was your trip? You know what my trip was good. I want to thank American Airlines right off the

top. Wow. Not me there. I I I bit the bullet took the direct flight there and back. Got in 25 minutes early granted it took me about 45 minutes to 50 minutes to get my bag. That's inflation is setting in because it was 40 minutes on the slack as of this weekend. So by the end of this week, but after tomorrow, it's good. Wasn't trip back, although we do have to talk about all the airlines, and it's on the slack as of this weekend. So by the end of this week, but after tomorrow, it's gonna be a hour. It's gonna be awesome then to get your way back. It wasn't trip back, although we do have to talk about all the airlines just promoting their credit cards

on the, yeah, during the flight, it's bad. But anyway, I survived DFW. I survived a brief visit to Dallas. The people are thirsty for my blood over there. I made a quick stop in Dallas, Willow Golf, and then headed over to Fort Worth. And yeah, it's always great to be back out at Colonial. I'm really excited to go back next year and see what the changes are. They're getting ready to rip it all up. But yeah, good week. Got some TC Vision Fund scouting going.

week, got some TC Vision Fund scouting going, walked around with Austin Eckroat, Carson Young, quite a bit yesterday, walked around late on Friday as well with some groups. Yeah, just like, it's just what I think of when I think of the PGA tour 30 years ago in the best possible way. It's just such a throwback event. The community comes out for it. It's a social event for the community. And I don't know. It's just like, I don't feel like it quite came through on TV this year.

It was kind of hazy and like kind of gray there. And they're, you know, they kind of pushed the course a lot this year. But usually I'm cheering on and I don't know if I loved it. It just didn't, I, it made the golf look really bad. Today, I didn't think there was good golf played. And yet, we're watching Scotty Sheffler and Victor Hovelin and Max Homo go backwards a fair amount this week. So it's like, it's not like the golf was actually bad

and just the course really kind of made it look that way. Yet, we root for hard golf courses. I'm struggling to marry up my thoughts on that. Totally. I'm like, what am I saying here? I want them to ease up on the set, but like, like, walk it around yesterday, I was like, that pins too hard, that pins too hard. Like, it was, it was just a lot of really, really difficult pins. There's gonna be some rules

officials listening to this. They're like, this motherfucker, I swear to God, there's nothing we could do to please this guy. And you know, like they, the greens were very firm, so they kind of had a free roll with the course, right? Because they're getting ready to rip the whole place up, redo the greens, put all the, you know, temperature control underneath the greens, reroute some holes, all that stuff. So free roll, they could push the,

push the course as hard as they wanted to. Very, very firm. Greens were a little bit inconsistently firm and just, you know, bent like, they're just ready for a redo, right? So the Greens just got a little bit bumpy. I think it was tough for guys to make putts. And yeah, like we saw a lot of guys,

I mean, shockingly good field for the week after a major. And, you know, guys like Big Tone, Speed, you know, guys like that missing the cut to kind of hurt the juice in the weekend a little bit. So we got a good finish though. It was a good finish. I feel like this event kind of exposed a little bit

of where like live hurt the PGA Tour the most, which is like second and third tier players. And so it was kind of a top-ish heavy field and just I don't know what the middle class really is on the PGA Tour now. It looks like it's Adam Schenk is what it is because you know I don't think it's an enormous loss to every tournament to lose a Jason co-crack to lose an Abraham answer. A Camtron, Gale, a campulch.

You cannot replace. You cannot replace a Jason co-crack. But like there was some familiarity there that's going to take a long time to build up, build back up on the PGA tour that you know it's going to make weekends like this feel a little bit more bleak it's going to make it feel more 2014 with you know it's exciting to watch you know a hairy hall make it run at it and the meal on a grill get back into the winter circle and things like that but I was done walking around Tuesday I'm like oh shit of course Scotty's here I'll speed this here also damn more a cow to Max is here like it was an

impressive top half the victors here after what he just went through last week. And it was very much a, it's always a, it's a, of course, Tommy Ladd. It was a trip that I'm always like, oh man, week after major, I don't know if I want to do this. And as soon as you get there, you're like, this place is great.

It's just comfortable. Fort Worth is the proper size town. We're sponsored by Schwab, of course, so you can throw all this out if you want to, but it is the proper size town. We're sponsored by Schwab, of course, so you can throw all of this out if you want to, but it is always a delightful week. Great restaurant scene, great tournament. I agree with you. I don't know if it's going to shine through on TV.

We talked about that a little bit with the Nelson, though, too, of like, this is a local event. This is for the people of Fort Worth, and they do show out, and I enjoy this tournament every year. And we're thrilled to work with them and thrilled that Schwab has kind of saved this event. That's kind of part of the story that we got involved with them six years ago now at this point.

But it's been an overall positive, I think. It's just man tough spot on the calendar. Totally. Loved hearing about how the dude Chuck like helped won the program that won't ever advance. That was pretty dope. I think he was close again this year. I overheard that in the media center.

And I was like, that could be, that could be a little bit of a problem going on there. But it did, uh, it, uh, chuck and blocky team up. Oh, we got, we're going to get to blocky. Let's at least give a meleado, Grilo subcredit here. Um, he has, back of the winner's circle first time in eight years. He won the fries.com, uh,

a long, long, long time. I'm going to his first start as a PGA tour member. I believe I heard today. Um, great boss strike. A really, really struggle with this putting there for a couple, long, long time ago his first start as a PGA tour member, I believe I heard today. Great ball striker really, really struggled with this putting there for a couple of years, 2019, 2020, 2021, right around that. It was a bit of a tough scene when it comes to his putting and he is better now. It's a lot better now. He's played some really good golf.

He had a top 10 at the Heritage, top 10 at Mexico open leading up into this. Has had some good success at this course. Kind of wish I would have seen this. I literally Cody texted me right before we came on the air. He was like, good call with Grilo. We were watching him put on the putting green early in the week. And I was like, this feels like an Emiliano Grilo week. I literally said that of course places zero nuggies on him in our in our betting pool this week. But I did call it out.

I was hope I couldn't remember who I said that to. I was so thankful Cody reminded me that I said that. But huge birdie on 16 in regulation, awesome putt on that made a bunch of just good eight footers that I would imagine was what had plagued him for so long. And then we get to 18 and gets up there pretty quickly blows it way right. Get sick. Gets in the man made via doctors, what they're calling it, the man made concrete creek with the ball trick like down there for like Five minutes. It was a bizarre sequence of events goes on to make double and looks like he's just blown his chance to win it, but It was a lot of other melting down going on behind him and he gets into playoff in birdies 16 to beat Adam Shane

It's just such a weird week where like Harry Halls. It should 62 66 the first two days. You think he's 12 under through two rounds, backs up a little bit on Saturday, shoot 72, and you think, all right, like comes out Sunday, it looks a lot more comfortable this morning. Or he's one and two. You're like, all right, man, this is going to be, this is going to be a snooze fest this afternoon if this guy runs away from it. He looks like if Eddie Pepperall and Bryson had a baby. It's terrifying. Sure enough, like it just got, it just kept getting more and more interesting and they kept going back and back and back and all the sudden eight under is in it. And Grilo just was nails down the stretch, played great golf. I mean, four under on his last 12 holes.

And we always say golf is really, really exciting when the ball is on the ground. I think the viaduct would count as on the ground. That went on for shot to that cameraman. That dude was not going to give up on that shot. They were going to follow that all the way down. I will say it feels like TV networks have maybe dug a little too far into the ruling aspects of stuff like they're spending so much time on routine drops and

like following this golf ball all the way down when it's like dude he's going to have to take the drop like we don't this is this this part is gone like we can carry on from this part of it but he goes on to make double hairy Hall steps up on 18 and the only two balls, the entire week that went into the water off the tee on the 18th hole all week, 382 drives or something like that. Milano Grillo and Harry Hall on the 18th hole. He drove it in the way.

He drove it in the left water needing just par to get into a playoff. He makes bogey. I was gutted for him. He had at the 12 under par through two holes today. And the playoff was at minus eight and he did not make it into it. Like that's a long slow bleed that's just tough to watch. So I have a question here because I was reading the the PGA tour.com story about this. And it says about Grillo is options included

playing the moving ball or taking a drop and a penalty stroke. And I was like, wait a minute, like that doesn't make any sense. Like, what the fuck are we talking about here? Like playing the moving ball? Like, why would it say that on the thing? It's like, that's an actual option? That's no way that's true. I'm gonna stand down on this one. I'm not the... Listen, I know some of the rules, but I don't know all the rules. I do not think you'd be able to play the moving ball. I know Mark Dusbobick, I love when he gets involved.

He stepped in and said like You can't at a certain point the referee can decide that you can't Continue to wait and see if it rolls into an advantageous situation So at some point they had ruled that the ball was dead and then he was gonna have to take a drop anyways That's what it's crazy. You can't hit a moving ball, but yet after 10 seconds, it's dead if it's rolling into the cup. Correct. What a fucked up game man.

Correct. I have been vindicated on that. I have not received proper apologies for you guys roasting me on ESPN. You did such a good job. I listen. I want to say, that was really, you stuck your neck out there in that moment.

It's like, nope, nope. You were so definitive in that. The pie man and I were talking about that. We were just hanging out in Virginia this week and he was like, oh, what a, what a bold call by Saulian. It completely, you were completely vindicated. It turns out the DJ's whole thing, if I want to be able to selectively enforce the rules whenever I think it looks bad and when I think it looks good, turns out,

doesn't hold up that well in court. So, yeah, I stuck my nutout there and I got roasted for it and I was right apparently, so sorry, apologies. Harry Hall had kind of a weird week. Didn't really hit it that well. Oh, he hit it. Negative strokes gave ball striking and almost won the golf tournament.

That's weird golfer. That was so hard to do. He was every time I looked up, he was like, I'm just kidding. He was a shitty shot. Yeah, he needs like, I don't not, apologies I'm not familiar with your game, Shaq Voice here,

but it looks like he needs an analytics coach because some questionable off the tee decisions where it's like, yeah, it was hitting fairways and I know that it was firm and you needed to be able to hit fairways but he left himself five iron into 14 today. He just kept hitting hybrids off the tee, kept laying way too far back off the tee. If you're trying to win a golf tournament,

I just don't think that's the right, it's been proven that that's not the right path to do it. I know you got to go with what you got that week and what your fields are and all that, but that is, that was a, Adam Shank was blowing at 60 yards past him off the tee like, vol, and he's volunteering, he's volunteering to lay back that far. And- But then he doesn't lay back on 18. He hits driver 340 into the water on 18. Yeah. Look, I feel like I follow golf fairly closely. I had not heard of Harry Hall.

Like I'm the hand up, I'm sorry. Like you want to rip me here for that? Like Harry Hall is not a dude who I was familiar with. I watch way too much corn fairy. So like I'm familiar with him, but like even I'm like other than like the hat and You know him looking like off brand Bryson like Like truly like an England or Alabama situation there too He's great. I met him out of pebble. He was great like I got a root for

One LV guy. Yeah, he's a he's a nice down to earth guy And he was gutted, you know shout to him for doing the interview with Amanda afterward and kind of stand up. Look, he was on the verge of tears like dude shots like that. I said this on Twitter like shots like that to engulf tournaments. Don't present themselves that frequently and it's just got to comfortable. So. Which that might be the last time we ever see 18. I think they're gonna flip the nines. You know what? I didn't know that until I read the USA Today article today. And I was literally thinking that yesterday I was like, they should flip the nines on this course.

I think it would be. Nine would be a, yeah, nine is 18 would be a sick finishing hole. A lot of birdies can happen there, but a lot of disasters can definitely happen there. And then you get the horrible horseshoe on the back nine. Exactly. And you get like eights gonna be a signature part three now.

Sevens are really cool. Like sevens of a cool green. I think like two is one of the most underrated holes out there where like guys bomb it down the right over those trees and then they have like a 50 yard wedge in a whole imposing bunkers. There's just so many cool little shots out there that like it's like do or die like cool man you gotta execute here. I gotta put a hand up too. I tweeted I think I thought scores were gonna be low this week because it was soft in the practice rounds

and with the overseed around the greens they have some fresh overseed around the greens. I was like these guys are gonna get it up and down from everywhere and scores would be crazy low and I was wrong there because scores were absolutely not low as eight under par got into a playoff which almost never happens on tour. Yeah, I'm told that the over seed was because they want like it makes it easier to kill off the bermuda. You got to do a lot of rounds of killing off greenside bermuda to make sure like doesn't creep through and all yeah like three rounds around up.

So that's probably, that's why they had to, to oversee it, but not the best. Not the best look as it overseed only around the greens and not from T to green, but it's a transition here. This is, Gil Hans has talked about this, this being a total nightmare situation in terms of a renovation because of the timeline of this tournament, where I was like,

they're gonna, I wish they'd done the memorial thing where they start digging up the holes as play is still finishing up. Are you believe this? Yeah. But the timeline of, we got to tear the whole golf course up and get grass down in time to get some growing in this year

before the growing season ends in the fall and like grass not growing a ton in the lead upsups into May. It's, they've gone back and forth on all these different plans for how to do it and they've finally got one. But I hope it goes well, they're going to need weather to cooperate because this is a tight, tight timeline. Do we have a sense of what Gill is going to do to the course? Like what do you do to claim to it?

It remake the greens. Are we talking about different T's? What's the sort of plan? Any insight there? Funny enough. Sounds like there's, yeah, there's not any plans to add like a bunch of new teas or like a bunch of not the answer now. Yeah, length is not it. Like an crazy stat on the broadcast today. It's a shorter golf course now than the last time Hogan won in 46 and I think yeah. Funny enough, I've talked to him about it like eight times and I still don't know if I can properly relay the answer. I've never seen the plan.

I'm super curious, it's for Gild to get his hands on a course that I know really well. And I've seen a lot in person because when I walk off courses, I don't see like, oh, they should do this. They should change this. That's not how my brain works. I know it's how his brain works. And I'm really curious to see how he's gonna do it.

But he's talked about how a lot of places he goes, he takes trees out. Like that's a normal thing is like take trees out, take trees out. But the trees are such an integral part of the golf course. It's like a dark golf course. How he's described it. It's not meant to be one big giant open playing field. And I, I mean, I don't want to, I could be wrong here, but I don't think he's playing to take out any number of trees that are in play. They've already cleared out a bunch between seven and eight and, and done some stuff. But he think he's playing to take out any number of trees that are in play. They've already cleared out a bunch between seven and eight and and done some stuff. But he said he's adding trees in spots. I believe that. Yeah, it's like.

Adding trees. Yeah. It's not something that you're no longer so proud. Yeah. That's Simpson's going nuts, man. He's he's he's loving it. Um, and yeah, adding that I'm guessing they'll probably expand some greens and add some more corners to greens and put some penable space up there, bring bunkers maybe a little closer to the greens a little bit and just touch ups. I mean, it just, it looks a little bit dated

at this point and they've just not been able, again, the timeline has been so bad, they're renovated in like 20 or 30 years. I think the greens are like close to 30 years old, which is not a normal thing to have greens that are that old. So, actually, yeah. So, especially bent. Yeah. So, I'm curious to see it. I don't, it doesn't jump off the page to me as like here's exactly what they should

do. So, I'm very curious. I'm surprised how much guys like this course. It doesn't jump off the page to me, but dudes show up and are really excited to play it and are excited for this tournament and speak very highly about it. And they're not the one sponsor, by Schwab. I am hand up here like we are. But you know Joel and Max and everyone I ran into like really looks forward to playing

this golf tournament week after major. So I think says a lot. So it kind of burns Max that he's never had a top 10 here. Did he have a top 10 this way? Yeah, T9. T9, okay. Yeah. Kind of backed into the T9 with some guys falling down the leaderboard there.

But yeah, he and Joe were like, this place is awesome. You got to hit all the shots. You got to like, you know, like Max was saying, he didn't hit any fairways on Saturday and still played well. He's like, this is, he's like, I don't know how I did that. Like, you can't figure it around here. Real quick, just to tie the loop on Grilo here. He is 130 something in putting this

year. So I don't I don't think things are things aren't going great with the putter. That's bad. This year. Oh, totally. It's totally better. He's he's he's 134. Minus 0.154. Now that that could mean anything. It means his bad weeks are probably better than they were. His good weeks are probably much better than they were. But yeah, props to him for sticking the shot in the playoff. It's a very tough tee shot and just puts it right in there. And I remember seeing it as like, oh shit, like Grilla with a five footer. Like I've seen this movie before and. And, you know, sure enough.

And then a couple more shots. Should we do, can I download a board now? Real quick on the putting TC. I mean, going back to the beginning of this year, Sony, American Express, farmers, Phoenix Open, Genesis, and Arnold Palmer, the putting was horrific. Absolutely horrific, close to a shot,

per round lost, which is like, if you over the course of a year, you'd be almost close to last on tour. Like a very, very bad. He was plus 1.5 at the players, plus barely plus at the Valero, plus 0.8 at Heritage, plus 0.96 at Mexico, basically flat at Wells Fargo, positive to PGA and positive this week. He found something in his putting as of the players beginning of March, which is put him back in, you know, the ball striking has been very, very,

very consistent over the course of his whole career. Positive of the tee, positive with approaches, really bad with putting, and I'm excited that he's got it back. He's a great dude. I love him. He's one of the nicest dudes out there. And he's a wildly good iron player.

Yeah. It's insane to watch him hit irons. Really good. So can I do a down, a little down the leaderboard action? I want to get to block you. Really good. So, can I do a little down the leaderboard action? I want to get to block you. That's going to take a while if we go down the leaderboard. So, I just want to Scotty Schaeffler, good week, backed up on Saturday, but 67, 67, 72, 67.

That's strong. That's strong from Mr. Schaeffler. Do we need to learn about the Scotty putting it all? For sure. Absolutely. That's trying to scream about it. I know. I know.

I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.

I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. see no second to last a bohossler. See, I was trying to say the same thing during the PGA and DJ and Randy had already given him the title on Saturday night saying that he was going to run away with it.

Not have been Friday night. I said, guys, put the putters in issue here. The putters in issue. So I think it has skewed though how we have not fully appreciated it and listen, there's no one that gets in the data and the weeds more than me. I went to his page today to look at the strokes. Holy shit, it blew me away. The ball striking, I've undersold it.

We've all undersold how good the ball striking spend. He is crazy. Like maybe the best driver considering his length and accuracy. And also, he's a better iron player now over the last six months than Colin Moore Coway. He's the best iron player on the planet. Over the last six months, that's not a small sample. And he is close to

if not the top driver of the golf ball over the same period of time. Is that a good combination? It's crazy. Crazy, man. The ceiling is the floor. What is the like? What's the feeling? Is the ceiling is the roof? That sounds more like it.

Is this a thing though, is the putting in his head yet though? I mean, clearly it was like kind of pissed at Augusta. He was pissed that people were asking about it. He was pissed a little bit that it became like a thing. He was talking, I listened a little bit. He was talking, you know, like Amanda, like, oh, I figured it out. I've got working on things and it feels much better now,

but stats are showing back and that up, man. Like I, I figured it out. I've got working on things and it feels much better now, but Stats sharing back in that up, man. Like I, I don't know. I thought it'd be in the year. This dude is relentless. He is impossible to kill. He's like a movie villain. He just is always going to come back and always be in it. And that's been true, but the difference, I think, between,

it's like when Roy was a great wedge player in 2014. Like, maybe that was the outlier. What if the outlier was Scott? He's putting in 2022 Like that he was such a great putter for one year and now this is kind of more back to like it probably won't be this bad for a while But what if he's kind of like never gets back to 2022 again? He has lost a quarter. He gets like halfway back there I know he lost a quarter of He gets like halfway back there. I know. He's lost a quarter of a stroke in putting from last year.

It feels like a lot worse and it's been. It's been. Yeah, the I test. The I test says some alarms going off. So it does. I will say it's not yippy. It's not like when speed loses the putter. It's way worse than this.

It really does kind of seem like he is hitting good putts relatively. I'm hesitant to say this. If really does kind of seem like he's hitting good puts relatively. I'm hesitant to say this. If Scotty found aim point, it might be game over for everyone. Oh, God. It's the, it's not how hard that is for you to say, Sally. It's, again, the comment I have about aim point

is not that it's not effective. I think it's extremely effective. It's probably a part of the reason why it should be banned. But like, it doesn't seem like he's reading greens great and to hear guys that have talked about how simple it is to read Greens after learning this, it is a little bit scary, so. I would think you better apologize to Teddy.

Teddy's not gonna be happy. Why is that? Is that an indictment of Teddy as well? Is it usually reading Puts form? I don't know, I don't know their process that well, but is Teddy like giving him reads? I don't know. I don't know their process that well, but is Teddy giving him reads? Oh, I mean, I think Teddy was probably consulting on the pots.

All right, I'm sorry to distract with this T.C. Keep going out a little more please. The floor is yours. Michael Kim, guys. The rest of you guys continue. I'm just a really well-rounded week. Like, he's not doing anything like there's no outlier. He's just doing everything solid.

T6 this week with our guy medium dick Rick Really really strong 69 67 on the weekend for Ricky for Muta Burns Didn't quite win this week just because I think they sprinkled some of the overseas in the back greens right in there. Yeah My kids, I don't know if Sam Burns has been dying his hair blonde. I was like no, I think he's just growing it out a little bit He's now got a naturally blonde. So this is a different look for him. Mark Hubbard really, really nice week. 69 69 69 69 69.

I see what you're doing here. I see what you're doing. Team Rose continues doing it. Hair is singlish. Really, really disappointing Sunday. 65 66 first two days. I thought he was going to run away with this thing. Comes out in like a modified animal outfit on Saturday. She's even poorer than 76 today. It was tough.

So, uh, Hovland, again, props to him. T16 after a really draining week. Bad, bad final round and then Justin saw as well. I think his tank was probably pretty close to low after Oak Hill and played quite well. So otherwise, you know, Moorkawa made the cut, didn't really make a lot of noise. I followed Peter Monotti for a little bit. Guys, my worldview is like demonstrably better

after 45 minutes. I like seeing you come around with him. Just positive, you know, just positivity. Chez had a great first two rounds and I scaled off on Saturday. That's good. And then last one, get one name. Last name, whatever you want.

Choose well. Well, I'll give you this. You can do this after in one minute because you all know rowback. These guys understand quality. There's only one way to describe rowback that is best fit, best feel. And we are kicking off the summer. It is the perfect time to load up with the best gear that we own. First of all, their performance polos, they just hit different whether it's the USA theme designs. They're just in time for Memorial Day weekend. Listen, maybe too late for this part of the copy. But, or the 4th of July or their classic solids and stripes, these

polos are clean. They've got four-way stretch. Moisture-wicking fabric. They will get you through a warm summer day on the golf course. The performance hoodies are the stretchiest softest hoodies in golf. If you want to be comfortable and relaxed on the course and wear a rowback hoodie, you guys know we cannot take them off. And if you want to start your day right, start it in a rowback hoodie. Lastly, the performance QZips are a game changer. Nothing beats rockin' a QZip for an early round of golf. They're soft, they're stretchy, comfortable.

It's a tough decision every morning. I'm sad that hoodie and QZip season is coming to an end here in Florida. Also, at Darden, a UVA, I know that the founders of rowback are from there absolutely blown away with how huge Roweback is there. It was incredible. I saw like an 85 year old guy wearing Roweback at Darden.

It is absolutely popping off. We can't go anywhere without seeing Roweback. And Father's Day is approaching. You can use code NLU at Roweback.com for a generous 20% off your first order through the end of this week. That's rhoback.com, 20% off polo quzips hoodies and more with code NLU summer is calling. So make sure to check them out now. You have a final name for us. T.C. Your final. Vincent. Vincent Norman followed him a little bit.

It was impressed. I think I'm buying. I'm just I'm sprinkling it into my portfolio for for down the line and then now now we can talk blocky Okay, it's it's time. It's time. It's the main event. Oh gosh Where do you where do you guys want to start here? Where do you want to start? I listen, I will say this After everything that transpired which we will talk about The guy who was standing there on Friday afternoon. I'm like up on the bridge and I look down and I see this whole scrum of people. Probably a hundred people around them.

And I look down and I'm like, who, what's down there, who's down there? Sure enough, it's blocky, taking pictures with people, drinking beer, just mingling. Like it was, it was like, honestly I've never seen anything like it. It was crazy.

It had on backwards, just sign an autographs. And it was, the guy looked dead behind the eyes. He was so, he was so tired. And then he finally just kind of exited stage left. And it was like, God, I can't wait to get back for Canadian Open, baby. My feelings are so complicated on everything from this past week. And it's not it's not black or white.

I don't I don't love blocky. I don't hate blocky. So I'm just going to say a lot of things I think about the whole situation. I was extremely and it was very interesting to experience the PGA on the periphery. I thought like the first walk and talk he did. I've I caught that live. I was like, Oh, hell yeah. Like this is a periphery. I thought the like the first walk and talk he did, I caught that live. I was like, oh hell yeah, like this is a great story. I love this dude.

This is great, great speaker, great example for the PGA of America to put out there. Probably gonna fall apart here as this tournament finishes, but this is cool. And it never fell apart. It's a freaking miracle that he got it all the way across that finish line. It really is the whole in one up and down on 18,

all should have been celebrating the way that it was. I don't agree with Randy through Sunday of last week. I don't think he was right on that. I, he with, he, KVV made the joke that he was like Leonardo DiCaprio from Don't Look Up in terms of warning people about what was coming. I don't thought that Schwab for giving up an exemption. The blog.

That was the best use of an exemption they possibly could have had. That's why you have unrestricted. You played the game. Sponsored exemptions. They got all the buzz around that. It was real on the grounds. It was extremely real. I was joking.

I walked up one of the days on Tuesday. There was a huge mob around the putting green on Tuesday. I was like, oh shit, that must be speed. Like I thought he wasn't here today. It was blocky. Like there was a huge mob around the putting green on Tuesday. I was like, oh shit, that must be speed. Like I thought he wasn't here today. It was blocky. There was a legitimate throng of people out there to see blocky. But then I'll also say what he did from Sunday on was certainly his own decision. All of it was his own decision and maybe doing by his count 30 interviews wasn't going

to be the best way to prepare for the tournament that gave you an exemption like again The buzz was very real and it was because the spectacle he made of himself after Oak Hill I think and I think people were still willing to give him a ton of leeway before the comments on the menary pod He claimed they were out of context Can I just play the clip for you guys and we can decide if you find these tips to be anywhere out of context. Can I just play the clip for you guys? And we can decide if you find these steps to be anywhere out of context. For reference, this is from the Ripper McGoo podcast. This is from the Ripper McGoo podcast.

Hat tip, Ripper McGoo. I mean, it's intimidating. So what's the difference between his game on? Would you, I mean, you just assume that Rory is a better golf than you are? He's a lot longer than I am. That's what it is. OK, so the length is the big thing.

Oh my god. What I would shoot from where Rory hits it would be stupid. I think I'd be one of the best players in the world. How? Really? Hands down. Oh, if I had that stupid length all day. My iron game, wedge game around the greens

and my putting is world class. It's just that the distance I'm not two or distance, you know these guys are in it 300 yards in there. I hit it 275 in the air maybe here when it My my my wedge game my short game is world-class what I would shoot from where Rory hits it It would be a joke. He thinks it'd be one of the best players in the world if you could play from where Rory played That is where that's where it played. That is where it ended. That's where it ended.

I don't know. I listened to everything around that part of the conversation for the context that he was referring to on Instagram. Didn't hear it. That's where it turned very quickly. And I think it, that's where it turned for me. I'm like, oh my God, I don't know about this. Maybe when you do 30 interviews,

you're bound to say stupid, I'm willing to give him leeway on that. But that is just not true, man. It's really not. And that's kind of part of like, well, if that's the case, then the charm of the whole weekend before kind of loses its luster, right? Are you this like tour player, faking like you're a club pro or a club pro that gets to play the role of tour player for a couple of weeks?

And this is your 25th FG tour start. So let me, I have some thoughts here. I think that the media industrial complex is so like impossible to wrangle and impossible to sort of like navigate these days. As debating a little bit with Big about this, because obviously, you know, he was really one of the first people I think to sort of sense that like, hey,

this is getting a little bit overdone. I think it must be so impossible to become instantly overnight famous in this environment because there is no one to tell you like, hey, man, like maybe you shouldn't do this interview or maybe you should do this interview. You're sort of navigating it all. You're trying to sort of, I think like be a good person. You're trying to be like, oh, yeah, like here,, you're trying to be like, oh yeah, like here, you want me an interview, like I'm happy to do that.

I'll, let me like say yes to as many of these things possible because I want people to sort of feel like I'm a yes person, like I'm willing to sort of give them. And you get, I think, especially out over your skis a little bit in terms of like what you're thinking about yourself versus what the reality is. Like I doubt that Michael Block really believes that he would be the sort of you know a world class player if he could hit as far as Rory, but I don't know like could he be like 125th on tour if

he could hit as far as Rory? Yeah, probably actually like because like if that's such an outlandish skill in the game today, then anybody could sort of like do that. So I'll be like, you might be able to sort of compete on tour if you could hit it 340, 350. You know, this is where I'm waving the flag of like, we can rip on Rory for his short game and his wedge play. Like you don't have any idea how good Rory actually is with the wedge. Oh, 100% of you do that. I'm just saying, that skill is so essential to being a great golfer today. That is a 100% of skill that you have to develop over time. So there is no like waving a magic wand of like,

oh yeah, if I could do this one thing. Yeah, man, if I could run really fast, I could play in the NFL. Well, essentially running really run really fast, like I could play in the NFL, well, like essentially running really fast is an important part of like playing in the NFL. So there is no like if I could do that, I think that's sort of a, you know, an essential part of it. I just, I feel a little bit bad for him because I don't think, I don't think the backlash is maybe as huge as we really think. I think for the most part, people would be like, oh, what a fun story. Like, you know, they don't really get plugged into golf Twitter that much.

They don't really, they would be surprised to hear that there was an actual backlash. But I think, and there was enough that like, block felt he had to like, address it and say, like, ah, you know, guys, like I wasn't being that serious or whatever. And I just think modern fame is such a mind-fuck that you have to sort of have someone who understands the environment and be like, ah, man, maybe don't do 13 podcasts or whatever. You're gonna eventually say something stupid. I mean, I've said stupid shit here,

doing podcasts like once a week with us, like about my own fucking... Tonight? Yeah, you just did. Exactly. Like, somebody was like, oh, this is, I just recently, like on an Instagram thing was like, this is the guy who thinks he had to play the ProV1 instead of the ProV1X

because he had too much speed. I said that shit on like the trap draw, like as a joke and people are like taking it seriously. I'm like, oh my God, like what are you? Like I can see how this shit gets totally out of control and people think that like you're an asshole. Just basically when you start talking, it gets insane. I don't think he's an asshole. I think he has taken his role as like, I'm an entertainer in this,

like people should be more like that. I think it just truly goes from like, if you go into, before you go into a tournament and say, my short game's world class, and then I'm gonna go, I'm out there following him. He had made a tough bogey at the first hole, and then from the, he pulls a drive left on the second hole hole hits a tree and bounces back into the middle of the fairway and he hit the middle of the golf ball with a wedge. He did not hit it thin.

He's sculled a wedge 57 yards. It said 42 on shot tracker. It was not I stepped it off. It was 57 yards long of the second green. I stepped it off. It was 57 yards long of the second green. And then when he got done, said, we've all had days like that, where the lies are bad and all that.

And I've shot 59 before I may shoot 58 or 59 tomorrow. It's tough to say your comments on Roy were taking out a contest, because DJ Pysent was, quotes over in the transcript, and I literally thought he made that as a joke. I thought, because we were memein' pretty hard in the comments of like it turned into such a spectacle that like, dude, it's kind of stopped being a little

bit fun this part of the story. Like you've kind of turned yourself into a meme. And then there's think pieces on the backlash and then the backlash to the backlash and the media cycle. And it's just like, oh, man, did it all of a sudden was was big Randy sitting there like Mikkelsen up on top of the hill with the smirk on his face as he washed it all and Folded one of my favorite beeps because Randy, Randy made some money off the best cut this week. Who couldn't end it?

Randy up on the grassy Nola of Endalis You know what blocky like I think everything's in moderation, right? I'm sure he felt like all right, they gave me a sponsor exemption. I need to pay this off with as much publicity as possible. But he was going to get that sort of reaction. And with all the stuff, the tour and the PGA of America was doing to gas him up all week, like maybe don't do the Ripper McGoo podcast. Maybe do sports center. And I couldn't get all 30. Here's the only 13 I could come up with of what I believe he was on the river McGoo. He's on Pat McAfee.

He was on four play. He was on Dan Patrick, Jim Rome, Rich Eisen. I think I saw Pierce Morgan interviewed him somewhere. There's more CNN. Good morning, America. Today's show. I think another morning show, but I don't remember what the other one is. Okay.

On the ABC one, I think he was on that one too. Golf Channel, of course, ESPN. And also, I believe I heard he was on the ticket with Sturm in Dallas. He was. He was. But yeah, it's like, you know what? Like maybe, maybe just say, you know what?

It's like Monday afternoon or Tuesday, I'm fucking exhausted. I'm going to take a day or two to like refresh, because I actually want to play well in this tournament. And like, you know, I think, like, because it's a good, like, of all the courses on tour, yeah. It's one of the few that, like, you could, like, he upclub pro could rock up and compete if they had their good stuff. And I get it, like, you know,

I don't blame him for not playing well or what. No. And he came back and played well, and you know, played better on Friday and all that. Like, I can't imagine what's going on from like chemical and emotional and and just Psychological perspective not to mention just being exhausted after playing four rounds up at Oak Hill and all that but you know, it's it's like

This thing's just getting started to guys. Yeah, we got Canadian open Week after next, we've got, I guess he's going to the Omega European Masters in Switzerland. He dropped that. He signed with WME as well. T.C. here's the part that I kind of, I was like, man, I don't know about this. He kind of turned into Bill Murray out there

like during a PJ Tour event. When you, I get, again, you're trying to entertain, you're trying to do your thing, but like, do it all of this. That's your boy. All of this, see, but Bill Murray is there to be Bill Murray. Like, it works in a Pebble Beach Pro Am. When you get a sponsor's exemption into an invitational,

like doing all your gyrations and gestures after a miss and like, hamming up to the crowd and all that. It's like, there's a spot for that. And and then there's when you're on your way to 81 It just kind of looks pretty silly. It does and I don't know if that's what I don't know sponsors are signed up for it It just seemed a little bit off putting combine that with the comments and then to get off the off the golf course and say you might shoot 58 or 59 tomorrow I like the eight or fifty nine tomorrow, I like my fuck around to 58. Who knows? Props to Minwulee for shooting 67 paired up with him for trash seriously.

Kind of kind of a tough deal. We got to make sure Ludwig steers clear of him during Canadian Open Week because I know Pearson Coody was a sponsor exemption this week and he did not make the cut this week. He was pretty I was blocky as well. I will Pearson Kudinot. That ball's different. That ball's a little different coming off that club face. It was not, it wasn't like bomber.

It was just, it came out of a really, really nice window with a nice like pro fade. He had some really creative shots. His little he like a stinger cut driver around the corner on five that was just like, whoo, like it was I mean, I watched a lot of golf this week and saw a lot of golf shots and a lot of swings and I will follow a female around for a while, followed max around. And I'm not saying he's better player than those guys. I'm just saying like, it stuck out even amongst

watching those two guys play golf. So again, how you piece that in together to a pro golf career and how well you get the ball in the hole is a totally separate question. But really high ceiling, I would say with Pearson Cudi, because he can do some things with the golf ball that I didn't, I wasn't quite expecting in person. So just filling in some more blocky stuff in the week, because there was a lot I was at dinner on Friday night. And he was getting dragged by L Duncan on ESPN. Didn't even have the sound on them. and some more blocky stuff in the week, because there was a lot I was at dinner on Friday night,

and he was getting dragged by Elle Duncan on ESPN, didn't even have the sound on, but she compared him to Uncle Rico. She put Uncle Rico graphic up on Sports Center. 90% of the bets on Bet MGM were on block to make the cut at plus 225. Like 90% of the total bets for the week, or just blocky related bets, I believe. We're the total bets for the week. Oh, just it's just just blocky related just blocky related bets

I believe we're on him to miss the block. I mean blocky had better odds than like Kevin Kiesner to win the tournament And like I know that's not how Vegas works and they're trying to spread their risk accordingly and everything but man like That's like like he was he was a couple hundred better than Kevin Kizner when the I know Kevin there's a reason why I like 10 cup the movie like and where it does and it doesn't that's not really a series or you like Fawcens and the spots are excited. No he got those exemptions into the next year of the US open and

And the mass-repeated has like a definitive ending. It doesn't sort of like winliger in linger. And so that's like, I, we're on chapter two. It's gonna be a while too, Ben. Guys, just wait till Blocky gets to the senior tour. We got like four or five more years until he gets to the senior tour and this thing's gonna take off again.

Crazy. How much money do you think he's made off course? Like obviously that's a reason to do all the interviews and to hire an agent and to do all these things is to, uh, you know, help with some of that. But what do we think he's made off course? Like in the last week or like just that he's projected to make over the course of this. Sure. I'm sure he got a bonus from Taylor made. I'm sure he got some sort of bonus from Nike.

He got the Raising Cain sponsorship. Although, he's playing a game playing Probe once despite being a Taylor mate guy. He's plucking Probe once out of the hole. He makes a hole in one. He was plucking Probe once out of the Taylor made box. That's the best part. I'll do respect.

I know we're like sponsored by Timeless, but I legitimately during the tournament for anyone who brought this up, I was like, wait, dude, that dude's definitely playing Probe once. Like, I thought he was a tailor made dude. Like, he talked in that I was literally in the press conference where he's talking about, oh yeah, I have why not, why not me

or whatever, what it was stamped on my tailor made Tp5s, I was like, wait, but you're not playing though. Like, I don't get this. Yeah, it's my shag bag at home. Yeah, yeah, cool. First thing, for literally first interaction, I go from the airport straight to the golf course, shuttle driver, I'm the only one on the shuttle

and he's driving me over and he's like, so you excited about this, Michael Block thing? Man, we hit the jackpot there. Like I kind of thought, again, I was just coming off BJ kind of missing it and I didn't realize how big the buzz was. And I think the idea, so if you're the RBC Canadian Tournament Director, right now, after you hear, get word of the 81, you got to, oh, shit.

Like what do we have on our hands? I think for all future exemptions, they should let him play from where Rory drives it. I think that is how they should use the exemption spot is to let's put that to the test. Let's see if all you had to do was walk back that comment too. All you had to do is be like, yeah, I got carried away like that was silly. He tried to. He tried to a little bit. He went on Instagram. He said, you know, that's not what I meant guys. Like a lot of haters out there. I still love you. You know, I still love the haters to all that stuff. I tweeted something. I said, like he dumped it in the bunker

from, he just, and then he, so he was like 30 or 40 yards out on 15, dumps it in the bunker, then has a sedom, makes six. And I'm like, does this look like a world class wedge player, world class short game guy? Like, you know, there's different, there's varying levels of world class. And I got picked up into every single algorithm there was, it was like, guys, I was out on blocky.

Now I'm back in on blocky, because it's gotten so outrageous that I'm rooting for the guy to surprise us again. Right? We get sort of accused sometimes of this, like, oh, you guys are like raining on the party or sort of cynical fox or whatever. But I think that it's sort of sometimes is right. Sometimes, maybe.

I think this, what, what, man, maybe it's even right in this situation. But what I also think is sort of embarrassing is like the blatant sort of pandering, like pandering, riding the blocky wave of like in this story. Like, there's a lot of people who don't give one shit about golf, who are like trying to use this as a sort of like an every man's story and trying to sort of like ride that wave of it.

Yo, like we talk about golf, week in and week out. I think we have a proper right to be like, okay, like this is pretty cool, like, but whatever, like it's not this and that. It's this sort of, this sort of rushing in to be like, what a cool, amazing story. And if you don't love this, you're sort of a cynical prick. Like, oh man, like this is kind of like our, if you said that to some day of the PGA, you are kind of a cynical prick. I'm looking at you, Randy. But maybe Randy would just knew what was about to happen. Because I think I like everything

for Monday to Wednesday was just like, dude, it's just a lot. Like you're putting yourself out there, I get it, but I'm trying to think what a comparable is of somebody that just doesn't have the resume. Like that's the whole point of making the story being amazing is that you don't have the resume to this, to then also say something like you did was just like, ah, man, imagine if I got some weird ass exemption

into some tournament and I was just like, ah, if I like imagine if I got some weird ass exemption into some tournament and I was just like, ah, if I get hot, like I could win this thing. How do you think the public's gonna react when I shoot 81, 81, right? Like, do you think people are gonna be like, dude, this was a cool story. He gave it a shot. Or they're gonna be like, fuck this dude. They're probably gonna be like the ladder. So like, you played in 26 PGA tour events at this point.

There's data out there about your short game about your wedges Like your wedge play from 100 to 125 yards 125 to 150 Like the book is out there now, man. Like that's a pretty big sample size Like the data says something else and I know like you have to have that self-belief and that that kind of for sure You know unhinged believe in, like believe in yourself attitude, even to do something like what he did at Oak Hill, which was remarkable. But like at some point, you can't say that shit out loud.

Yeah. Right? Like, I mean, like the New York Post picked it up and was like, Michael Bloch's cocky Roy, Roy McElroy Post may have gone too far. Michael Bloch may be buying into his own hype. And it's like when the New York Post picks that up, like, that's, that's in the mainstream, man. They're looking their chops to destroy you. Yeah. Again, it's, I, it's very gray for me, right?

It just like went a little too far. I blame the media partially for it. And, uh, yeah, it's, we're still a long ways from this being over. Last note I had from Schwab, awesome to see Joel and Geno. We did a great pod with them. Oh, this week I hope you guys get a chance to listen to it if you have any Joel Damon and Geno Benelli as Cadi. Man, the reaction, I drove them to the golf course

after we did the pod and you get stopped in a bunch of places and I'm not driving the tournament vehicle. So they're like, who the hell is in this car? Like Joel pops his head out and flashes his badge and like all the security people are like, oh, hey, what's up? Like the Netflix reaction to those guys now was so very real.

It kept happening every security guy that stopped us. It was like, oh, what's up, man? What's up? It was so excited to see Joel. And I just wanted to shout that out for them. Like putting themselves out there, they're getting a lot of reward for it and seem to begin a lot of support. And if you haven't gone and listen to the Joel, the Gino world record story, it's like

one of my favorite stories. I feel like I've ever heard and I've never miss so badly on a guess of something of like what it was. I mean, if you haven't listened to it, yeah, you can tease. I'll tease it here. Like, Gino, I said, a Guinness World Record for playing the most holes of golf in a single week. USGA, holding out all that stuff in one week,

go through the exercise of how many holes you think that was and then go back and listen to the podcast because it's just incredible story, an incredible data around. And we one thing to screw around and like, oh, I'm gonna play a bunch of holes, but I love that how you detailed. Like, no, you have to have like a person there

documenting and seeing every single thing. Like, that's how they get to smoke a World Records work. This isn't like, oh, you just say it, and then they like, they count for it. Like, no, no, this was real. It is, it's very real. It's very real. It's an awesome, awesome story.

Yeah, story about him playing through that, that same couple. Like four times. Four times. Eight. Twelve. Like four times. Or eight, 12, 17. Like when he comes back around and plays through him again, a couple of whos there? And he's under par.

Like, what are you doing? I'm just pulling the whole story. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. That's the main thing. Yeah. But you got to go listen. Our next partner is athletic greens.

I take AG1 by athletic greens literally every day. I gave it a try because I wanted some better gut health. I wanted an energy boost. I take AG1 in the morning before starting my day. Makes me feel ready to go, makes me feel energized. Feels like I'm doing something good for my body. I'm given that body to nutrition at craves. I'm an okay eater.

I'm not the best eater. But just, when's it ever gonna hurt you to put a little extra nutrition in your body? The answer to that is it's not going to. It's comprehensive. Well, you certainly don't put enough greens in your body. That's not true. I do a green smoothie almost every morning.

So that's not true. And I eat Broadway. At least not in the traditional way. So yeah, I don't like lettuce. That's my, that's my flaw. Didn't know that much. It's comprehensive health and the power of habit in one, AG1 empowers the gut for whole body health.

AG1 is much more than a green's powder. It's all of your the power of habit in one AG1. Empowers the gut for whole body health. AG1 is much more than a green's powder. It's all of your key health products in one covering my nutritional basis for the day could not be easier, which is why I trust athletic greens. One small scoop of AG1 and 12 ounces of water in the morning costs like three bucks a day. It's a really effective daily habit with the highest quality sourced ingredients. If a comprehensive solution is what you need from your supplement routine,

then Athletic Greens is giving you a free one-year supply, vitamin D and five free travel packs with your first purchase. Go to afletagreens.com-sush-NOU at afletagreens.com-sush-NOU and check it out. Live KBB, one more question. Did Blocky send beers to the media center at Oak Hill

after his ace? I'm reluctant to report that no. There was no, there was no beers like, listen, it's possible, look, there's always beers in the media center, okay? So like from four to six, that makes always beers in the media center. Okay, so like from four to six, that makes some beers available. I guess that's just sort of part of how the PGA of America

does it. I think it's a little bit weird that are like this specific happy hour you're allowed to, they literally put a chain around the cooler and so you cannot access it, but between those two hours. Came back from reporting about the kept good stuff. We'll talk a little bit about it. I had a very heated conversation with one of Brooks kept good people. I'm sitting down and I'm just really like processing. I'd heard blocky made a whole

whole and one, but I was like, oh, well, that's have a beer. I had been to PGA tour or PGA majors, really, where someone made a hole in one, and there was always like a, hey, this fear of so- Currency of so- Currency of so-and-so, there was not that. Now I don't wanna say, I don't wanna blame that it was a blocky, it was involved,

but no one set that up. We're not accusing anybody of anything. We can't, I can't go there. I'm sure there's some people who'd be like, well, the media doesn't deserve this, whatever, Listen, the deal is, you buy drinks for everyone. It often trickles down to the media. There was not that. So, you know, I did not get a drink courtesy of Mr. Block.

He may not know at all. I think the deal is when you're a tour player on a tour player salary, you pay it, right? Like that, whatever it is. Not even if they do pay it. I'm sure the events pick it up. I don't think he could pay into the insurance. Like we do it a country fund for $5 a month and you get, you know, listen, somebody, like, Capca was like, oh, I heard Blocky made a hole in one.

That's awesome. Everybody should run up his tab, whatever. And he was joking about it. His press comments. And I kind of thought like maybe Brooks would be like, ah, it's on me. Like, I'll pick that up. whatever. No, that did not happen, but Yeah, there wasn't a I'm sorry there wasn't a drink for us. That's fine. I'm not I'm not upset about it at all I was I needed to write my story

Maybe you know, maybe it would have been better the class yeah, just ask about that That's my I'm clarifying it for you. So I did not have We of course needed a second men's golf event state side this week. One over Memorial Day weekend was not enough. There was live golf Washington DC. I don't know if there's anything to this, but just on my YouTube TV, it's literally the program was just called Washington DC on CW. I don't know if they're trying to hide that it's golf and trying to trick people into watching it or not, but... NCIS DC. It's just called watched to DC.

I don't know, yeah, maybe they thought it was a, they could have done a documentary on the fake civil war battle that was claimed to have been fought at... Many died here in this river. Their blood stained this river. How about the barge? There was a huge barge.

Barge with somebody doing a cookout on the Potomac River there, but. I was hoping to go to this event, I gotta say. And I just didn't work out for my schedule. I've only been to one live event. I got accused recently of some having some anti-live bias. And I was like, to this person who will talk about in a minute, I was like, I've literally been to a live event.

Like there's a lot of people who have not been to a live event. So how dare you say that I don't know what live events are like? I was hoping to check into this one, didn't get a chance to, hopefully I'll get to go to the Jersey one. Just I feel it's important to sort of, you know, see what's going on there, see what's like. Let's quickly run down the results. Harold Varner won, Brandon Grace finished second,

Mito Pera finished third on the team side. Torque. Team Torque won. Stinger and the range goats were second and third. Tough week for the aces, of course, they've finished all the way down in sixth. Blah blah blah. Do you want to, let's just get to the Cloud Harman stuff because he made some huge waves. An article that came out from Adam Schupac at golf week this past week with some quotes that we'll get to. It was ringing through the golf course on Tuesday.

A lot of people did you see what the cloud said? Did you see this? Did you see the article guys reading on the putting green? Guys reading it out on the golf course. It pissed some people off on the PGA tour side with some of the quotes in there. But KV, take me to your side of the story here on Sunday of the PGA

championship part of the story that you and we have not told yet. Yeah. So, uh, all listen, I'll do credit for Adam for publishing that. I'm not, I don't want the need to succumb across like, uh, you know, I'm shooting on any of that because I think that's super essential to the sort of dialogue. I spotted Claude after he was walking back from something and I went and grabbed him. I said, hey, you know what you might be able to talk about Brooks or whatever. This is before he had talked to Adam and my laughter and a couple other people.

And we had, I would say, a 20 minute, I don't wanna say heated, but it was kind of heated discussion where we talked a lot about some of these similar things. And I had sort of been weighing about what to do with all of this. He said a lot of very similar things to me that he said to Adam. He was very worked up, very, I wanna say like saving, he'd been saving up a lot of takes about the media about knowing up in particular. I wanted to, he kept ranting and ranting and ranting about how, you know, how poor the

journalism was, how dishonest we were. And I was like, are you talking about like the media in general? Are you talking about the media in general? Or are you talking about like, no, laying up? He's like, no, no, like you guys, and you specifically, Kevin, like you've said a lot of really harmful things. And I was like, oh, okay, well, I literally didn't even know who you knew who I was, but I'm happy to sit here and talk to you about it.

Claude said, you know, a lot of the similar sort of things about, you know, you guys, you just fished his narrative about how the live guys were terrible. And, you know, I, I, he said, I saw the shit you wrote about Brooks when he missed the cut in Oman, the way that you jumped on the bandwagon. You guys forced a narrative that wasn't there. You guys to pretend like these guys took bid money, took big money and they went to live. And that meant they couldn't play.

And that you used particular, he said to me, you've said some pretty tough things about live. And you've painted this narrative that was self-serving for you guys and the talking points basically that the PGA tour has been giving you. And you beat up a bunch of players that haven't done anything. And I'm not generally, I think, like I'm willing to listen to anyone who has any sort of frustrations or issue with my journalism. I'm in a little bit of a different sort of position, I think, than I was at ESPN, where I was more of like an adeptive reporter.

I'm a little bit more of like straddling the line between commentary and game reporting and all that stuff. And so I was very much like, okay, like if you feel that like my commentary has been unfair, like what specifically are you upset about? And of course, like most of the time in these situations, they don't have like a really specific thing to say, it's just sort of a generalized feeling. It's hard to sort of argue with someone in those moments. I was like, well, you know, like we've, I think we've just expressed some fairly nuanced opinions about some of the stuff like Brooks himself has said. Yeah. Yeah. I was pretty washed. I wouldn't have gone to live if, you know, it maybe he

didn't quite come out and say I wouldn't have gone to live. But he really did say I would, I probably would have made a different decision or might have made a different decision if I thought that, you know, my health was different. All of our commentary, I think, about Brooks and Bryson, you know, was, which I think was part of what he was sort of growing about and trying to stick it to me was, was specific to those moments of like, hey, these guys are kind of lost. Like, they seem like they're, you know, really, out in the wilderness, which I think at both of them kind of have attested to like, yeah, like, you know, with Brooks, like, hey, my knee and my hip was completely screwed.

Did you know that you write the script for episode two of Full Swing? Was it you that wrote that? Was that your journalism? That was not me. That was not me. Yeah, that was definitely. Where did we get this idea that he was having a crisis and that he, you know, I, saying all of the clothes that supported like, hey, is he done? He heard that like when Bryson missed like four cuts at majors because he was mainlining protein shakes and that we would have thought that like,

oh, somehow that went, anyway. So, Claudine had an extensive, I would say, I don't, it wasn't an argument. That's not a fair characterization of it. It was a sort of a heated, intense discussion and back and forth between us. And, you know, I expressed like my views of like, hey, like I have some moral objections to this stuff.

And I said, he was like, oh, well, why do you care? You know, this, why don't you object to all the sponsors of like FedEx and all this stuff? And I was like, look, if you want to lit a genuinely 15 minutes after your guide, just won the PG Championship, have a heated debate here about what the difference is between riding in an Uber and like specifically doing PR for the person who murdered journalists. Like two years into this thing. We've been all over this.

I can have that discussion with you. I don't know that this is the appropriate time, but I'm okay with that discussion. And I think his response, which actually it was the one time I got sort of pissed off, was he was like, well, we do a lot of bad shit in this country. And I was like, that is a really bullshit thing to say. Like that is really unfair, I think, to sort of be like, oh well, this bad thing happens over,

the Saudis execute these gay people whatever. They're willing to torture people who are advocating for women who drive. His claim to me was you haven't lived in the Middle East. I've lived in the Middle East. I've seen the sort of progress that made there. And I said, Claude, have you talked to anybody's family who's been tortured? Because I have, I have done that. So you're claimed that like no one does good journalism

anymore to me rings a little hollow in that sense. And, you know, I do think that there are some fair points in what he said in the sense of like, you guys were so quick to write off some of these guys. Maybe that's true. Like I, he was clearly, I tweeted Maybe that's true. Like I he was clearly there. I tweeted once as sort of a I think a joke about when Brooks missed the cut in Oman, you know, maybe these guys are properly ranked in the OWGR where he was sort of falling

down thing. And look, Brooks said like that was a sort of a shitty day. I got a bad draw. Like the wind was blowing like crazy. I played poorly all these things like, you know, maybe those are that's an instance of me sort of acting, you know, irrationally and based off of one tournament or whatever. And look, I've been pretty like open about the fact that I love that Brooks is healthy again. And I love that Bryson is playing well again. And so this idea that like,

I'll hear you're up too. Like I underestimated these guys coming in a major change. I didn't expect this. I didn't expect this. And shit on these players. I thought they were like, I did end up too. Like I underestimated these guys coming in a major championship. So I didn't expect this. And shit on these players. I thought they are like, I did not underestimate them. I don't look. I don't think that live in its current format like deserves ODIB JBR points, but like, so you know, you and I know like we've had

discussion internally, like I do think there is some mechanism for figuring out a way to sort of, it's not under the current system because the current system was set up in a specific way by the majors of like, all right, here's how we give exemptions to these people. But if that changes, I think that there's a way for, you know, some points to be awarded somehow. It's just not this. You've been very specific about your example of like, this is basically like these guys left the NBA and to set up their own league and now want spots in like the playoffs. It's like the Clippers and the Lakers are like, Hey, we're going to go over here

and going to form this league. But damn it. Like we deserve like an automatic. We automatic entry into the playoffs. That's where I think it's a little bit absurd. Anyway, I still may sort of write something about like Clawd's in my discussion because I think it was cathartic for the both of us. I think it was a good exchange of ideas. I think he got so worked up during it that then he was even more willing to sort of, you know, go in with with shoe pack and talk about some of this stuff. But I mean, some of his points of like, you're, you know, what Brooks did or what Bryson did is no different than what Lamar Jackson did.

And I was like, hold on, buddy. Like, I, like, I covered the end of it for like 15 years. Don't bring a lamb lamb. These two things are not the same. Okay, like the NFL is very, like boxing and soccer are much more akin to like what golf is than like the NFL or I think he used in Adam's thing like an example of like the Mets or whatever, like they just paid out, you know, the, whoever it was, the Langer Mets. Yeah, very, very nice.

It's a weird analogies. He was struggling with analogies. That is not at all like. I got the Joseph Mangeley. Right. Yeah, well, the deep part about Bryson, I mean, he did say, you guys at, you know, and you are sort of basically getting your talking points

or whatever Jay wants to sort of say to you. And that frustrated me too, because when I was at ESPN, I got in some trouble for like tweeting some things that were sort of, you know, frustrations about the lives, excuse me, about the PGA tours, like COVID policy, how slow they were to react versus the rest of the world. And the PGA tour, like essentially went to my boss

and kind of scolded me. It was like, hey, you know, this guy is really actually your supposed to say, I was like, this is really frustrating to hear you sit in here and say that like, I'm willing to do the bidding of the PGA tour. Like, you are so clueless in this that the idea that the PGA tour feeds us like talking points or gives us any access based on this stuff.

It is clear that they, all of these guys, whether it's Claude or Phil, or who these guys who are really adamant about this stuff, that they kind of get in these little kind of, you know, groups and just feed off of each other's anger and frustration about this stuff. It always cracks me up to here. Yeah, you guys are getting your talking points from the PGA tour. Like, like, as I'm calling for Jmon and job, that's to throw you off to send. I cited you to see. I was like, nobody's been more and off to send. I cited you TC. I was like, nobody's been more and more critical

of J-Mana and than TC, which I was like, I hope Claude knows who TC is when I'm saying this. And our colleague Cody, who certainly hasn't spent any time in the Middle East. No, he would have any perspective on how things are in the Middle East, not one bit. So it's always weird a little bit like to talk about this stuff when, you know, Claude and I had our back and forth.

Like this was all on the record. Like none of this was, you know, shout out, Chipmunk and Phil. Like none of this was like implied as maybe it was on an author. I could, it was literally, I asked him questions. I had my phone in my hand recording. He knew what was, what was being discussed. Obviously this conversation with Adam, you know, he knew it was going forward. But I, you know, Claude is someone who likes to sort of, he likes to rant a little bit.

He likes to make his opinions known. He's been a defender of Brooks in these sort of things for a long time. I remember him getting so pissed off that Brooks wasn't asked any questions after the first round at Belrieve when he shot like even par. And he was like, you guys, you choose who were gonna be the sort of, you know, the darlings of the media, whatever. And I was like, look, I legitimately had this conversation

with Claude four years ago. I was like, look, you know, it was like, I was like, more than that. You know, Brooks has to give a little bit back too. Like, he has to sort of engage a little bit with the media and Claude was like, oh, you're so full of shit on that. I worked in broadcasting. I know how this works.

Like you guys choose this and that. So clearly this is someone who has some strong opinions about how the media shapes the narrative. But I did say I was like, look, I think you're, look, I love where I work. And I think we are sort of an important part of the discussion in golf. I think perhaps you're giving a little bit too much credit

to like our meeting company and podcast to think that like we have shaped the entire narrative of what live is. Like live has shaped the narrative of who they are. And we have talked about that. But thank you for thinking that we are so influential in that conversation, that we are able to make them out to be anti-heroes or whatever you sort of are suggesting that they are.

So it was an interesting conversation. It did not make it into my game story because I was like, this is not relevant to Brooks Keppka's winning of the PGA, but I would like to revisit this at some point down the road. It was, I don't know if we need it. We don't need to go through all the quotes, but it did get all very strong. Like, sir, this is a Wendy's vibe of just, just true off.

Like very first thing he gets out to is brand new as a paid actor by NBC and golf channel. Blah, blah, blah. Uh, who could, who could possibly say sports watching when the company they work for him in Aiman Lynch. They televised the last two winner Olympics in Russia and China. It's not like they were good leaders back. It's not like Putin was a good guy, right? It's like, oh, okay, this is going to be really good.

We're already on Putin. And listen, I'm here for the NBC, the anti-MBC stuff. We can go there, Claude, that's fine. Let's do it. I would still, I'm also here for that, but I also still would say there's a difference in working for NBC and being a paid spokesman for the Saudi government. I think there's a pretty big,

I don't think Brando and Aiman are paid spokesman for the Russian or Chinese governments, which is exactly what Brooks Kepp is. It's classic what about is him trying to make two, trying to make a false equivalence and make and smooth things out. And that's exactly the whole goal of live in the sports wash and all

that shit. I again, I put my hand up on like underestimating live guys. I will say I predicted that a live guy would win a major this year. That was in my preseason picks. Did not think it'd be Brooks. I did not. I thought that phase was kind of over for him and he the Netflix series did not make me feel

any differently about that. His play up through March of this year did not make me feel any differently about that. I am glad to see him back and competing. It's still one of the weirdest careers ever. We can talk about that on a separate episode, but like I don't. Brooks has not been all as nearly as all in on live as he would like to make us think in this. He's on Zoom calls all day and he's so blah, blah, blah. I was like, no, man, he's met with two separate people to talk about coming back to the PGA tour and what the path is like. And he said himself, I'm his competing authority. And I wish like, you know, I wish I could do that. And I might have made a different decision if my health was different. Don't put that on the media. All right, that's your

own guy saying and doing these things. And it is kind of a shame that he took this moment of Brooks, like, Brooks won this, okay, lived and not win the PGA. Brooks was the champion. Brooks is the champion. Brooks is the major champion of this generation. And like, take that time to like make this about your grievances with the media is kind of shitty. I ain't got broke. If I'm broke, I'm like, dude, what the hell, man? Like, come on, can we not get through this night? And then maybe maybe talk about this rationally, some of the stuff rationally the next day? I don't know, that was my reaction to it. How about the

drive-by on Zalatoris? That's where that's the stuff that really pissed a lot of people off in the PJ tour side saying, listen, there's a whole lot of people that have gone through this whole live versus PJ Tour thing. There are a lot of people that you guys on the tour side of this, I mean, blow smoke up their asses like fucking world beaters. I assume that's what the ex-lative is. And some of these guys haven't won tournaments in quite a long time. The fact that Will's outtours is top 10 in the world is laughable and has nothing to do with him.

What a drive by. First of all, Will was 12th in the world when Liv started. So... Well, and like the idea that like we've, like the somehow you, what things that we say are supposed to like influence Zalatorus being into the world right. World of Records.

Like I wouldn't have, the same thing to think. I saw Will Zalatorus like almost win a PGA, like literally in Southern Hills. Like what did that have to do with Liv? And like riding for Peter Eulin and throwing him into the same combo as Sawhith and Max. Peter Uline had every chance to make it on

YouTube tour. Many chances. Many chances. And probably had some advantages too, like based on where his background was. Like I don't understand exactly like him and Chase Kepka, like this idea that they were sort of like wronged or deprived of

Opportunities like those opportunities existed for them forever and Yeah, it's it's Uline is playing the best golf. He's played since he played on the European tour in 2017 and he was supposed to be the Do that came to the PGA tour and was gonna be wrecking shit He won the first corn fairy tour as a nation wide or web.com at the time when he came back in one there And was supposed to go straight to the PJ tour and dominate. It just never happened. It did not happen.

And all of a sudden he goes plays 54 holes events and is miraculously turned into a shot and a half better. Like, it's a different environment. If you want to compare that to Max winning farmers, yeah, that's, I'm going to need a little more evidence on that one. I'm going to need a few more results in some bigger events worldwide than just, you know, Peter Uline beating the same 47 guys week in a week out. It's just, it was tough.

Brando had a reply after being called a paid spokesman that was a tough scene. This is how I feel exactly about this as I do US politics. Like, hey, don't associate me with either of these two guys. Like these are not my guys here. Like, Phil start unblocking people. Which, what's the reasoning behind that? If I can, brando block Phil eventually and Phil called him soft. Oh, am I a conspiracy theorist?

If we wanna throw out here, like Phil started unblocking media people because he was calling brando soft for blocking people. I think that is accurate. I have to think that's in play. I don't think that like Phil was like, ah, I'm gonna give like NLU another chance. I'm gonna give Randy another chance to sort of,

you know, I love these dudes. They're great guys like, no, it was like, oh well. All right, I'm gonna sort of make my point here of like if you block somebody yourself. I never been blocked by Phil, I gotta say. I don't know why. I wore it like a badge of honor. I'm happy to be unblocked.

It makes it way easier to do my next section, which is to go through some of Phil's tweets for the week, which is Phil, of course, said this guy, his network covers Russia and China Olympics, his PGA tour funds the entire tour in China. You could not be serious, John McEnroe voice. Something tells me there was an email that was sent out with some talking points about covering the Russia and China Olympics between the live spokesman.

Honestly, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you same as getting a check from Putin. The idea that as a journalistic entity, you would go to Russia and cover the event there that that's the same as getting money directly from those people. That is such a bizarre old. This works. Read the replies. Good point, Phil.

Really good point. These stooges just follow this stuff and take these false equivalencies and rum with it. It's a joke. The part that really got me about many, many parts got me about Claude's comments. But blah, blah, blah. He says, I think you guys largely did that because you drank the Kool-Aid of everyone else, which he's that with me, you know, drinking the Kool-Aid is obviously a reference to Jim

Jones and Jones town and drinking the Kool- Cool Lake, committing a mass suicide because you're in a cult, all in a cult together and believing some outrageous stuff. Which side of this does that sound like, right? Again, there is a side here that's getting paid very heavily to represent all these thoughts and my check is not coming to the mail yet. My comments are free of being paid. It would have been a lot more lucrative for us to be on the live side of this. Oh, yeah.

That's what's in it. Way easier. Oh my God, it's just, but again, they're projecting so hard. And it's just sad. Some of the misinformation in our conversation, I think, was frustrating as he was like, you guys don't want these guys to be on the Ryder Cup team.

I was like, that's so not true. Like, I literally think that Brooks and DJ should be on the Ryder Cup team. I actually think that Phil should get to be a Ryder Cup captain. As much shit as Phil has done. That's crazy. You may say that's crazy, but that's how I feel.

That's how I feel. I think I want Sergio as a Ryder Cup captain. I want like Lee Westwood as a future Ryder Cup captain. I want Phil as a future Ryder Cup captain. Those are things that I think that is separate from like a we form a new tour like what I'm okay with that. They had good points on that. Well let's let's do that because it's just again worth noting if you're not following

the stuff religiously. Which good on you. Yeah. Your life is better than mine. The PGA of America runs the Ryder Cup from the United States side. It's not the PGA tour, it's the PGA of America. Brooks is still a PGA of America member. He is second in points.

If he qualifies on points, he is going to be on the team that has been said and that's out there. That is a difference between the US side and the European side. The European team is run by the DP World Tour and you have to be a member of the DP World Tour to be on the European Ryder Cup team. If you want to be a member of the European Ryder Cup team, if you want to be a part of the DP World Tour, you have to follow their rules and regulations, which says you need releases to go play events. These guys obviously didn't get it. They won the court case. All the guys except for surgery are the everybody resigning their membership,

everybody paid their fines except for Sergio Fill them like there. So those guys are not eligible to be on the team That's why Sergio will not be a captain on the team now So again the question is gonna come down again not on points qualifiers on the US side Brooks is gonna be on the team We know that but captain's picks wise well the US choose a lift player that they think is deserving of being on the team. That's a totally separate question of how do you evaluate results and and how do you evaluate how guys will fit into the team and all that. It's not a hard ban on the US side for live players to be on the Ryder Cup team. I'll say if DJ beats down the door to get on the team, that's a way different

decision than Bryson beating down the door to get on the team as far as guys wanting that person on the team. And I just get out in front of this now. There's going to be all kinds of conspiracy theories cooked up as to why these guys aren't on the team. Stay focused on what the actual golf looks like and how they fit into the team. I know I'm preaching to nobody because the people are going to troll and that's what it's going to be, but it is different on the two sides. And no, I don't think Phil should be a leader of this group. I think he should be a leader. I think blocky should be the captain. He should definitely be an assistant captain.

I got some, that's a perfect thing for them to do. Rubber blockies tummy after shots. That's what you do with Phil. By the way, Phil shot nine over this week. Second to last, just ahead of C1 Kim, who I thought, and you guys are shitting on him for it. Did you guys in the media don't realize how hard Trump DC was playing this week. You're drinking the cool ATC.

You know, Kieran Vincent, KVB's boy Kieran Vincent, potentially another KVB. I'm not sure what his middle name is, but just beat the shit out of him and rounds one and two, plus two and even there. My cleeks about to get out of the cellar there. So, you know, very bad golfing place. Phil's point about this is the best place to prepare for majors that's a fact. What does that say about live, right?

That like, oh, like, I mean, Brooks's whole point is like, hey, I don't give a shit about PGA tour tournaments. I don't really give a shit about live tournaments. Like, this helps me get it healthy. I'm not sure it quite makes the point that they think that they can do about promoting live. Like, it's come here and don't give a shit about these tournaments because the results

don't matter and you can get healthy and you can like, you know, prep your game for an adress. Right? We know like the fact is that there's no one that cares about this thing. That doesn't need to be debated. The ratings are so bad, they're not even going to report them anymore. Like no one's paying attention to this.

They get decent crowds out there. What was the YouTube thing? It's like the pay for the pay per view on YouTube this week? So they're not on TV on Fridays. You can only watch them on the CW app. But you could also watch on YouTube for $3 if you wanted to pay to watch the broadcast on Friday. It's wild.

A few bots put in that $3. Again, like another thing, I need people to stop falling for the parody accounts that are the people that are out there pricing these teams at $2 billion. Stop falling for it. It's a funny joke to stop falling for the parody accounts that are the people that are out there pricing these teams $2 billion stop falling for like it's a funny joke stop falling for like it's real though sending it my way There's people that see those and they're like literally like could this be true? The is smash GC worth two billion dollars Again, the real interest is not actually there everyone knows that I'm willing to have the conversation though about

Have we all underrated? How good live can be for guys major championship. Yeah, I think that's fair. That I I was kind of in the camp. I wasn't fully in the camp of like through these guys aren't going to be, you know, ready to compete because they're not used to competing weekend and week out. I was like, I think they can show up and kind of make some stuff happen. I think it's worth wondering if the live,

lets them peak at certain weeks. That's a good thing. So it's a good thing to live. Because you go to like, you know, fall in speed around this week or, you know, talking to like Finto, like, those guys are fucking exhausted. Sure.

Like they're wiped out over this, like, you know, the whole spring West Coast swing into the Florida swing into the masters in PGA like guys are are wiped out after the last eight to ten weeks of golf so it's kind of like you know yeah I think a lot of these live guys are probably going to be fresher now you know what's the live schedule look like the next, however? The schedule gets kind of weird. It goes, the next event is June 30th through July 2nd in Valderama, which on their website it shows that as completed.

I don't think it is completed. Then the next week they go to London, and then they're off for a month, the British Open is in between that, and they go to Greenbrire August 4th through 6th. They go to Bedminster next August 11th through 13th, then no events until September 22nd through the 24th. That is like a five or six week time period off. Also, worth noting that event is the week before the Ryder Cup.

Yeah, wow. Which at Rich Harvest's farm is just a great, great course. And then they go Miami October October 20 through 22nd, and then of course it says, Jett on the website, but we know it's King Abdullah economic city, November 3rd through 5th. It's kind of false advertising, huh? Oh, big time.

They totally have a ratio with King Abdullah economic city and do not give it the respect it deserves. I will say, listen, Brooks is gonna be on the router cup team, that's, that's, we've established that. I'll just say this now, because I'm going to say it probably a lot leading up to it. I have concerns about him being prepared for the Ryder Cup, both with it being two months after the last major championship of the season. His famous ability to turn it on and off at major championships. I will never, ever, ever disrespect him again when it comes to

a major champion. We've under underrated him in these events since way before he was on live. Outside of major championships, he is not achieved nearly the same amount of things. And two months after the last major, I wonder how sharp his game is going to be for Marco Simone and how good his course fit is. Just don't that out there. I don't know. Should be right around the time he's going to have a kid too. Like a lot of things going on in his life. So, yeah, all that. And I'm not sure I trust DJ either.

DJ is one of my favorite players of all time. It's not the playing good guy. It's a shame, but yeah. Like let's move past. Like he can turn on on a heartbeat. But DJ has not been playing good golf for quite some time. And he was not good at the PGA It's not been no worthy. He should not be as of right now filling in the last spot on that Ryder Cup team. I don't

I'll tell you playing good golf Andy Ogletree. Yeah made 613 $333 this week like I need some He's a chance. So is there any scenario in which Bryson, you would welcome Bryson on your Ryder Cup team? Not a single one. No. Wow.

Okay. Not a good course fit. When you see this place, it's not it. It's not it. And he's not the same team fit. I mean, they managed their way around his weirdness at the last Ryder Cup and it worked out really well. I don't think again, I'm totally projecting this. No one has said this to me. I think if your name is on the lawsuit, this is a totally different thing to consider whether or not guys want to be on your team. Like if

I know a lot of the trolls don't view it this way, but the guys on tour truly do view it this way. The live guys are suing the PJ tour players, there is no tour above them. Like they're suing the players. The amount of money that it has already cost the PGA tour, I talked to one player that was said that he was in shock as to how much it has already cost the PGA tour and it drives a lot of the frustration. The guys just can't go have their money from the Saudis. They have to go and sue their old tourmates on the back end as well.

And it's just is really maddening. And it's a factor when you go to fill out these teams. Anyone that pretends it's not is is lying to themselves. Boom. Yeah, I accept that reasoning. We did not make our goal of an hour 15 tonight. TCNH, you want to do some LPGA match play bank of hope. Yeah, that was the best event I watched all week Watch a lot of NCAA women play on a watch a lot of NCAA men

But the LPGA match play from Shadow Creek was wonderful. I'm gonna butcher this name But practiced it earlier and I don't I'm not ready for it. I was to Paduri Anana Rukinam. Anana Rukinam. I think. Yeah. Grand Boone absolutely slays these. I know. There were a few, there were a few pronunciations this week where I'm like, oh, like, like

Ayaka, Fujiyay. Furuay. Furuay. Furuay. Yeah, where I'm like, oh, like I didn't see that coming. I thought it was Furu. She, so I'm going to call her Pajary beat Ayaka, three and one in the finals. I was personally hoping for a Lynn Grant versus Leona McGuire final. They were the other two semi-finalists. Pajary beat Lynn 3 and 1.

Lynn was 300 through 6. She tried to 30 on the front nine. And they were tied. Damn. At the turn. She had, Pajary had eight birdies in 14 holes. And Leonna came out fire and it just kind of cooled off. So, Carlota Sugandha played great. Arlo and just kind of cooled off. So, um, Carlota, Segonda played great,

Arlo and Coglin played great. Any of the ladies could figure out 17 and 18. Any comment on Leonna blocking the Leonna Maguire tracker account? Oh, that was awesome. I thought she, she had a nowhere blocked the Leonna Maguire tracker account.

A lot of the trackers are upset about it. Uh, talking the tracker community. Yeah, I applaudly, I'm not a partaking of Brave Stand on that. That was great. Shadow Creek was awesome. I had kind of low expectations. It's always kind of seemed soulless when they've done matches and stuff there. It was like weirdly firm.

And the greens were very firm. They were fast The like the ladies could not like you couldn't be above the hole on 18 third round and Like like and really I mean everybody three put it from above the hole up there It was in a Nordquist made an awesome bogey Rinst one and then got up and down from you know 100 yards out to advance.

It was just a, I don't know, I really liked this event. I wish it had more juice. I wish it had fans like they don't allow spectators. Um, I wish it wasn't in late May, um, which is, you know, it's, it's a little bit hot out there as well. A reason they don't allow spectators is just the shadow. I think it's like a shadow creek thing. hot out there as well. A reason they don't have spectators is just the shadow. It's like a shadow creek thing.

Yeah, but you know, and I'm sure they're also like very tied in with whatever's going on in Vegas and different, you know, different sporting events and you got to avoid March madness and all sorts of high roller events that shadow creek and all that. So, um, but yeah, I don't know, it's just a it's a cool event. Um, ladies are about to have an awesome awesome stretch of golf here coming up. And, uh, yeah, we've got pro debut this week as well. Some Megagana got a sponsor exemption into the field as well. So yeah, stoked for that. It should be pretty good, pretty good, you know, viewing. And then, yeah, Corn Fairy Tour, Rico Hoey, one in Knoxville. Awesome video, Corn Fairy posted to him. Just like the outside on the putting greeners awesome

I'm so pumped for Rico. That's great. I played with him in a pro. I don't know. It was like five or six years ago 2017 we did the the little shoot or I was 2018 the fall we did shoot. I'm mad me neither was my teammate weren't you on Rico's team? Yeah, and Rico's like one of the foremost like driver off deck, like aficionados in the world. Used to wear these big diamond earrings, just like Sally. He's just such a nice guy. I've kind of followed him ever since. He's been lights out lately.

Like he's either, he said two or three missed cuts in the last couple months, and he's had like five top three finishes. It's crazy. So he's got his tour card locked up. We'll be seeing him out on the PGA tour. That'll be a welcome sight. He's just a just an exciting player out there. Beat Norman Jong to Norman Jong was going back in the next the panda and chase Seaford. Wait for us to win the women's NCAAs. They played well, hats I'm not sure if you're going to be able to get a

little bit of a way for us to one the women's NCAAs. They played well hats off to them beat our beat the USC lady Trojans. I was a little bit bummed. I was rooting for the Trojans. It's also rooting for Stanford as well. But,

you know, I don't know. I'm kind of. I'll reserve my take. I had some takes on our on our LPGA pod this week on that. Men's NCAA's guys Texas tech is in a playoff tomorrow morning with Oklahoma or with Ohio State AKA buck tech for the last spot in the final round. They cut it down to 15 teams. They're playing an aggregate. Ludwig Bogie, the final hole. He hit one dead down the middle. 380 into a pond,

and down the middle. I'm so glad they're not playing this event at Greyhawk next year. It's three years in a row at Greyhawk for both the men and the women. I'm tired of watching this course. It's not a good golf course. It takes driver out of a bunch of their hands.

It's gimmicky, it's bland. It's just, it just don't like it. I don't think it's fair that they allow one course to dictate players legacy, like collegiate legacies. So dumb. Like for like basically, you know, three quarters of their of their college experience, I think that's bullshit. So they're going to the cost the next year.

I think they're going there for three years as well. Gilles working on the cost right now. Hopefully that's, you know, hearing good things that that's gonna be a proper venue for it over the next three years. I wish they'd move it around a little bit more though. As far as the actual, you know, who's winning, Illinois is drumming everybody, peppered eye,

and Florida, North Carolina Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech guy's leading in the individual. So excited to watch that other next few days. That's always kind of a treat. I always love the insidably stuff. And then we've got, I think what else happened? We had Pablo let Lera Thobble one in the Netherlands, second-winning four weeks. Jamie, we have some respect for yourself, man.

You can't throw every guy that wins on a European Tour straight on the Ryder Cup team. Like, I have some respect. All right, like, have some pride. Man, all right, it just doesn't work that way. We're gonna do a Ryder Cup catch up, I think, this week. I'm gonna throw a little bait out there for a... With Rasmus. He's got 35 guys on this team. I might need 35 to win. I know for a fact that Ludwig's getting a serious long look. We'll talk about that more this week. US Open qualifying. There's qualifying in Dallas this week. Our guy, friend of the program Carson Young,

who played pretty well at Colonial this week, shot 63-62, 63 62 uh, adventure and northwood and Dallas. Did he get through? Get 19 birdies. Did he get through? Was that good enough to get through? He did. He won.

He won the qualifier. Uh, you know, Sergio. I'll say Sergio, one of the great assholes of our time still, but respect for at least going out and trying to qualify and getting through. Like that was the what we told guys like, hey, you're not going to get your OWGR exemptions, but go try to qualify and he did it. So I will hats off to that. You know what he shot? 6666. I mean, I was one of the only people who caught Taylor Gooch coming out of the PGA. He missed the cut at the PGA championship. No, he made the cut, but he was quite bad. of They didn't want me like good. I was just like, man, like you're allegedly playing some of the best golf in the world

According to all the the limboats in my timeline wouldn't it be like a breeze for you to just breeze through qualifying and like maybe Contained in the US open wouldn't that be like a big fuck you to the OWG are stuff No, I guess not huh? Last thing I had Hitch and Aid, senior PGH Championship. Frisco. Yeah, I caught a little bit of it. Stricker versus Padrick, which is, and Stu Sink was two behind,

which is a pretty good sign for, like, identifying decent players. Yeah, I wish I got to watch more. Padrick was 283 yards out on 18 and Like hit it like landed it pin high There was a Band yeah Strictor wanted to play off project bogey to 18 great great finishing all it's gonna be all

I'm so it's what 2026. Yeah, I think you know 27 yeah It's going to be all, I'm so, it's what, 2026. Yeah, I think. I think G.A. 27. Yeah, it's going to be awesome. So stoked for it. Let me Valhalla at you. And then, Quail, of course, get a great look at Quail after not being able to see it for some time. And then, Aronomic, and then, in PGA, Frisco, in 27.

So we'll get a little look at Frisco later this year. Well, Hall, like, I can't even shit on Valhalla that hard, because like, there's been good majors there. Great champions. They're lead of been good majors there. Great champions. They're lead of doing it right now. Great leader. Shout out to Belreif too, right? Uh, sometimes in the hall,

you get to like play through the group behind you. It's dark out. It's incredible. There is winter-winter holes out there. Yeah, they're redoing some things out there. I know they sold it and they're redoing some things. I don't know if Mr. Nicholas is involved or not. Can you imagine if Rory played through a group now

with all the live stuff going on? Oh my god. It's crazy. It can only happen. So what do we have going on this week? Anything special? I'd have to check schedule. I don't know.

It's a great question. I want to get to the succession final here. Come on guys, let's go. It's, yeah, we'll, more to come. I mean, we'll have a Radicup pod, hopefully come in this week. And I'm sure there'll be some video content. And I'm sure we'll get back to work here at some point.

But we're working on a holiday weekend here, right? We're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're together like we can. So, thank you anyway, anybody have anything else before we wrap? Oh, that's it. Let's ship it. Thanks guys.

Thank you everyone for tuning in. Hope you are getting home safely from whatever Memorial Day plans you had. Thank you KVV for being here. Thank you TC. I cannot wait to watch succession. I know you guys are going to have a trap draw on it very soon. I know that's coming up, but I got to get this edited and posted.

And we're going to go watch that. So thanks for watching. Thanks to the people of Fort Worth. Yeah, awesome time. Great. And not the people of Dallas, just the people of Fort Worth. You see, I love the way that you ride from Fort Worth, but continue to shoot on Dallas. It's one of my favorite things. Thanks everyone. We'll see you back next week. Cheers. I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah! That is better than most. How about in? That is better than most.

Better than most! That is better than most! That is better than most! That is better than most! That is better than most! That is better than most! That is better than most! That is better than most!

That is better than most! That is better than most! That is better than most! That is better than most! Oh Expect anything different