No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 697: Friday US Open Recap

Episode Date: June 17, 2023

LACC fights back as the sun comes out, Rickie takes the solo lead into the weekend, Rory has given himself another shot, how different the course played today, what's reasonable to expect from a US Open, another cathartic Hamsterdam, and a ton more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah! That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. to be with you. We were on the edge for a little while there, but I think we we saved it at the end and I'm ready for a big weekend at the US Open. We flipped it at the bottom. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, yes, saved at the bottom like a Scotty Sheffler hold on golf swing. KBV is calling in from the media center. Hello KBV.

Gang, I'm excited to give live show viewers an inside look at the weirdness of the media center tonight. If you're watching on the live show right now you can see all of America's dorkiest sports riders including myself hanging in there. Remember when they used to do the live shots at the USO or the Torch Aviation stuff they'd have like the steady cave go through the media center just for like a second. That's basically what this is. We haven't seen it in a while. Totally. The podcast booth that has been reserved I believe has been hijacked so he is calling in from his desk and we appreciate that kvv and is there a special occasion tonight mr.

tron card or i see you have dressed formally for the occasion uh... any any kind of hints as to why you uh... you you are wearing what you're wearing. uh... i was actually invited to blockies black tie uh... reception at uh... l.a. cc with an after party at the doheny room. So, you know, let's keep this tight tonight guys, all right? Well, I think we need to kick the, let's kick it down the road a little bit. We all know why he's wearing the tux. We know there's an apology coming. I think we need to let some more people trickle in.

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to find it near you. Heading into the weekend at LACC Ricky Fowler is 10 under. Windom Clark, a shot behind it. Nine under, Rory and Zander at eight under par. A lot of other people behind them hunting. DJ, I'm going to throw it to you first. What's your story of the day? Big takeaway of the day.

I had already filled out my notes by the time I saw Tron in the Tuxedo. So that was already, obviously, that's kind of become my story of the day big takeaway of the day? I had already filled out my notes by the time I saw Tron in the Tuxedo. So that was already, obviously, that's kind of become my story of the day. No, it's got to be big dick Rick, man. Ricky Fowler just fighting it a little bit. Sorry, medium dick Rick, potentially big dick Rick. Potentially. Yeah, 36. The artist grow.

But yeah, Ricky Fowler, man, just battling it a little bit, but still pouring in what, seven birdies today, eight birdies today again. And just, I don't know, man, I had a blast watching it, TCU flag this earlier, but just, whenever you get a player like that that has the juice on those mid-range puts, where it just looks like they're going to make everything, it just makes the telecast so much more fun. So I cannot wait to watch Ricky this weekend. That's by far my story of the day today. Do you see what's your biggest takeaway?

I think we preached patience. I think the patience paid off. You know, it was a little bit juiceless this morning. And son came out, things dried out a little bit. I think some of it's just aesthetic. Place just sings in the sun, in the bright sun, even like 15, having those layers there and seeing the contrast between the bunkers and the, you know, sharp rough there.

And then the green, I think it's just, the course looks a lot better in the sun. I think tomorrow is going, the course looks a lot better in the sun. I think tomorrow is gonna be freaking awesome. I think it's setting up for an awesome, awesome third round Saturday. And yeah, Ricky, great, great stuff. Hope it continues. Really, really happy for him.

And, you know, kind of a true full circle moment. KVV, you spent the day out there. You've been doing some writing, been doing asking some questions, you followed some golf. What is your big story of the day out there, you've been doing some writing, been doing asking some questions, you followed some golf, what is your big story of the day? I feel like the setup getting firmer is the big story of the day. We'll have some comments about that in general. We were sort of talking in our slack about what do you want a US open to be

in this day and era when, as we talked about last night, you have frying pans to hit the ball with. And so we're going to examine that a little bit in our written piece, but I don't know the secondary in this day and era when, as we talked about last night, you have frying pans to hit the ball with. And so we're going to examine that a little bit in our written piece. But I don't know the secondary story for me was Rory. Getting sort of a 30 on his back nine was the front nine of the golf course. Looked really good for a good stretch there.

And seems kind of like this might be, you know, the best chances had for a while. We'll see. KVV sounds off on LSU. Just like my media criticism might be the second biggest story. If you're listening on the putt, oh, look who just joined the party. What's the say hello? It was a lot of poor poppin'in. Yeah, I talked to Brooks briefly after his round. There were other reporters certainly there

But I sort of mentioned, you know, what do you think of the course and he was like, yeah, not the biggest fan You know, it's just I don't really love blind shots But you know, it's fine. It's what it is essentially and some other media kind of took that and said Brookes sounds off about the us open Brits ribs the course which got it and said brook sounds off about the us open brits rips the course which uh... caused me to put on my media on buds been at and uh... get a little chippy on twitter so t-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c It's a true true blue on black Kenny Wayne Shepherd situation here guys Shout out to my guy blocky. We got way too many vowels up here though

If we if we can be fair to Brooks I will I will read the quotes if you if you don't mind KVV said I think it should be around par When explaining what is ideal US setup should yield. Yeah, I mean I'm not a huge fan of this place I just think that there's a I'm not a huge fan of blind t-shots. And then I think there's just some spots that no matter what you hit the ball ends up in the same spot. I think it would be more fun to play on just like a regular round that it would be a US open. I mean, there's what two eights yesterday. That doesn't happen, referring to two scores at eight under par. My guy Ben Cully was quick to point out that the 2017 US Open that Brooks won. There was both a nine and a seven on one of the days.

And Brooks said, I love this course. I think it's great. It's not easy by any means. It's the US Open. So when he played well on a wide open course that had the lowest score in US Open history, he seemed to like it, but does not like the low scores this time around, which just, listen, we've all walked off golf courses that we didn't play well and not like them. But I did find that a little bit ironic as a reaction.

Sure. He did say to, I'll say, he's like, I just didn't have my game. Like, I'm not, it's not the set up for anything. I'm just not playing very well. He's weirdly though, he did say, I think I'm playing better than I did at Oak Hill, which was truly sick. That was the chef's kiss. I didn't really have it on Saturday and Sunday, but I think I'm playing better than I did that.

You know, it's my home Brooks. My story of the days and you've covered it basically with Rick and Rory. Those were two of my big ones. Scotty, we're going to talk a lot about I think is a story of the day as well, but I think like what I'm really happy about and really excited about is we got a Preview of the start of the US open, right? It was the shift in the weather this afternoon was the beginning of the real golf. I've preached a little bit of caution on some of the guys at the top just saying like, hey, I'm going to be convinced on Rory when I see him controlling the ball when it's bouncing firm. Rory got to play in the good side of the wave. It's played really good golf. Ricky played on the on the bad side of the wave, which is not, it was not definitely not drastic on day one, but was, I mean, a shot and a half on day two is a pretty decent size wave. And Ricky controlled his golf ball in when the greens got firm.

He made a ton of birdies. He played really, he played big dick golf, if I may say. And I think the rest of the, everyone's going to have to go through 36 holes on the real golf course, not the soft one, that's gone, that's not coming back, the sun is gonna be out, and it's a totally different question than what we've had to date, and again, I stress just like the legal stuff were so early in this. Solly, how much did JT score?

Oh, you were just chomping at the bit, you just couldn't wait, couldn't wait to get it in. You've been wanting to bitch about the waves in the draw all day. You've been setting this up all day. Tough round for me. Well, what part of any of that was bitching? I believe you're the one bitching to start this off.

I'm just saying, you're the one bringing up the draw. I'm just saying. I'm saying like, I like to see Scottie Sheffler playing well on this side of the draw and being like the guy, the real booey right now. He's the dude that's slowly climbing the leaderboard this afternoon, not doing anything special,

wasn't really draining puts, still sitting there at five under, five shots back. And he's my pick to win and he's still my pick to win. I think he's sitting very, very, very primed right now. But. I think another guy, another, we haven't mentioned yet. Windham Clark was really freaking impressive this morning. Yeah, he was awesome.

I know it was, you know, I know it was wetter and cloudier and all that, but, you know, just nails, especially on that harder back nine as well. So, shout out to him. I'm sure we'll talk more about him, but, you know but very, very impressive what I saw. If you were tuning in for a record low US open and Ricky Fowler in the lead, expecting to hear Big Randy, we do regret to report that there was a death, Randy had a

death in the family. If you listened to the show last night, we mentioned that as well, but he will not be joining shows this week. So he would have gladly been here at the situation was any different. But Ricky's been in this situation before. Does this feel, TCL ask you first. Does this feel any different to you? Does, do you have any more hope? What do you typically think when you see Ricky in contention at a major?

And what do you think right now? Yeah, I mean, when was the last time we saw him in contention at a major, right? Like five years ago? When was the last time we saw him? I know he's been playing really good golf and I don't have a photographic memory of this stuff by any means,

but has he really been in contention contention or has he just kind of been hovering around like T12, T15, T7? You know, I know he's finished top 20 a bunch, but I don't know that he's really threatened to win. Definitely not after the first two rounds. He even in this stretch, I'm really good. 2018. Yeah, I know he won 2019, Phoenix Open, right?

Just speaking major perspective. Like the solo second at the Masters in 2018, Dueling T-5s at US Open and PGA in 2017. I think the 2019 ones were a little bit not, you know, like he wasn't contending. He was just kind of sneaking in the back door, I think the 2019 ones were a little bit not, you know, like he wasn't contending. He was just kind of sneaking in the back door, I think. So you know what's kind of interesting is when was the last time? Have we ever seen Ricky contend like as an underdog, right?

Because that don't, to me, almost feels a little different where it's like, I feel like people are always rooting for him to win, but they're rooting for him to win in a way that's like, man, you should have won 15 of these by now, right? And that was kind of the whole, the players championship in 15 when it, you know, they had like the, whatever it was, the SI poll or the golf.com poll that was like, who's the most overrated player?

And he's been like viewed through that lens a little bit. But I don't know the last time, like it felt like a true like underdog coming up 18 today. And it was really cool. It's a totally different feeling for Ricky. Yeah, I think solid to your question. Like even when Ricky hasn't gotten it done in majors, it's not because he's necessarily choked

because he just got tracked down and like somebody else beat him. You know, I think there's something to that. Like yeah, you gotta be able to go out and get it and close the deal. I certainly don't wanna make excuses for the guy, but I don't know, I feel really good. I feel like his mid-Irns look great. That shot he hit into 17, a few minutes ago was just exceptional. I thought the shot he was between clubs on a few holes, like 12,, 13, 14 it seemed like and he made the right decisions.

And then the putter looks awesome. So putter cooled off for, you know, a spell there and he recovered from it and got right back in the game. So I'm really, really excited. I'm 100% rooting for Ricky here. I don't know. Oh, a mildly push pushback on that TC that he didn't choke. Like I was at the Aaron Hills, US Open. He opened with a 65, he was the leader, it's the first day, he was right there, the second day. And it was just sort of, it was a slow sort of sad bleed. And on the last day when he shot 72,

he was just like in neutral all day. He was, he was still taking three wood off some teas. And I remember asking him that day, like, hey, why didn't you get a little more aggressive? Why didn't you start to start to press a little bit? And he was like, no, just stuck the game plan, not unhappy. And I wrote a column being like, okay,

shouldn't you try to, I don't know, is this hurt a little bit more? And that was the kind of right around the time that would charm him throughout the, does hech harming throughout the you know does he want to be a Kardashian or does he want to be like an actual helper sick which is interesting because he brought up butch you know I he brought up butch this week and talked about how much butch has meant to him not just as a swing coach but as a mental coach which you know shows you that like

if you're good enough of a teacher of golf coach life coach life life KVB sounds like claw hard yeah kind of runs in the family it's 100% does is a family of a teacher of golf coach. So life coach, life coach, life coach, but a little respect on the cloud. Yeah, kind of runs in the family. It's 100% does as a family business. All right. Yeah.

No, I think KVV, I think that's a really, really good point. I think also though, like, unless Ricky goes out and shoots, was that a part 72? There it was. Yeah, I think it was. Yes. So unless he goes out and shoots 66 or better, he's in a playoff. Like I do remember being disappointed in that instance, but I guess what I'm getting at is there's not some long history of choking things away here.

It's just like he just lost his game, right? And you know, like, I mean, the guy finished top five and four majors in the same year, which is one of the more impressive things I think that's happened in the last 10 years or so. I was going to say, he plays smart golf too, right? It seems like his game is built for majors. I obviously don't mean that over the last three years. He hasn't been a major championship contender, but the style of golf that he plays, it feels to me a little bit like the, you know, like the Zalatoris model.

And like, you know, some of those guys that are like, he's not going to go win, you know, the Bob Hope and he's not going to go win when it's 30 under par. But when it gets tough, he tends to, tends to rise at least a little bit or his skills are kind of on more display, I think. I feel like Ricky has been of the course of his career simultaneously overrated and simultaneously underrated. I think he is extremely talented player, especially in his prime. He has returned pretty much like if you again, if you check the numbers, he looks exactly

like the dude that he was, you know, not quite fully peak Ricky, but like what you would expect from an above average year in his career. And he has gotten a rap for not winning a lot. He's won with five six times,, which is not a small amount. It's just the profile has always outweighed the accomplishments on the course. We have a commercial load that big. People are going to nitpick you a little bit. I don't really have a problem with that.

That's just part of the reality. But I don't know why this does feel a little different. It does. It feels like he's really, really quick to the gas pedal and is not afraid of the moment. And I don't know, it meant a lot to me today to see him do that in those conditions because I think it really was a little harder than people probably were even given the credit for.

Kevin. Tell your rider cup take for Ricky is looking pretty good about now. There was a lot of people talking some shit when you brought that up, but no. I already apologized yesterday. Put him on the team. Did you? I didn't get that, I already apologized yesterday. Put them all on the team. Did you?

I didn't get that, maybe it was gone. TC didn't apologize, because I used models for that and he hated that. So he had a review with us. I was like that with you on the Ricky stuff. I didn't hate on that one, so ever. Now I do think you need to evaluate whether JT should be on the team,

but that's another conversation. We will get to that tonight. The majority of the questions we need, the conversation. When I asked for questions tonight was was about JT. I was surprised by that. I mean, obviously the 81 is a very, very bad sign, but was surprised. Real quick, I think Ricky was. I think there's a larger conversation in that he seems like a really fitting winner for this. You know,

I'm not going to give it to him 36 holes in in But if we did have him as a winner he would be a very fitting apropos winner for LA country club, right? A bit of a Derek Derek Jeter at Yankee Stadium kind of kind of fit. I mean, I mean do you think like it makes sense? The Bane Capitol US open earlier like just just very very for liquor, like just very, very, you know, you got Goldman Sachs and, and city and, you know, a bunch of investment firms hanging out in the clubhouse by the first tee there. It's a win for the brand. Yeah, you know, everybody's tough.

It's tough. Like all the, all the stands are empty on 17 and 18 when the leaders are coming through the end of the day because people are trying to miss traffic. It's tough. Right? Like I will defend LACC the golf course a lot, but if we're talking overall as a venue, it coming up this short on vibe and atmosphere and grandstands and publicly available tickets and being this much of a C-suite open and it really shining through on television. I'm here for that argument. That argument stands here in terms of how much of a letdown

that's been. But we, I don't know, we were prepared for this. We mentioned this on the preview podcast. We talked about this last night. I was surprised to get how many questions came through of what's up at the crowd. Listen, I know not everyone's got all the time in the world to listen to all the content we put out, but this was planned for. This was a really tough logistical US open. The US open footprint has grown and grown and grown over the years. And it's really hard just to get, if you just look on a map at where LACC is, imagine getting 40,000 people a day into this property. And out of this property safely is a tough go around.

It's tough to get in between the holes out there. There's a reason why they plan it to be this way. Does it does it suck? Sure, but for me, it still adds up to a very worthy major destination because I think the golf course really is that cool. And the playing style is that cool. And I think these next two days are going to be really good. It's not been perfect to date, but I think it's we have a chance for it to be really, really good to finish. Just to, to I guess title loop on this a little bit. We say this about the PGA championship all the time, and I think you could say it about the USGA too in the US open, but one of these majors would have such a good chance to carve

out. We talked a little bit earlier today on Slack about identity and does the tournament have an identity? Does it need an identity? Is that stupid? Is that smart? One of these tournaments would be so smart, I think, to carve out the identity of just only going to, like, the best public golf courses in the country.

And it just seems like we're getting so much farther and farther away from that. Looking at, like, and I guess the USGA, you could absolutely also convince me that their identity is we only go to the best golf courses because we are running the best golf tournament to find the best player. Like I can get on board with that too.

But like the PJ championship, I think like it's just the courses that they're going to. It just ends up being like a diet, you know, no as per tame us open. And it's like, man, it just seems like you could like, Beth Page is not my thing, but like, do I think for the game of golf, it's better to go to Beth Page than it is fucking Quill Hollow. Like, yes, a for the game of golf, it's better to go to Beth Page than it is fucking Quill Hollow? Like, yes, of 100 times out of 100. Ditto for Tory Pines, Ditto for, you know, they're doing good stuff with the Frisco, Texas event,

so I don't know. It seems like that's just always been a pet peeve. And it's... James Burr's Bay. Yeah, James Burr's Bay. James Burr's Bay. That's James Burr's Bay. So it's kind of an own goal from the USGA.

Who said James Burr's Bay? Who said So it's kind of an own goal from the USGA. Who said James Burst? Who said that? Who said that? They set up revenue this year where the club was like, hey, we'll give you all the gate in the USGA. It was like sick, but we get all that corporate hospitality. They're like, all right, cool deal. They're saying LACC is getting all the hospitality.

LACC gets all the hospitality money, almost $50 million. 100% of the... I can't understand how bankers and lawyers and hedgemen people were able to negotiate such a good deal. How do they outsmart the USGA? It's crazy, right? And then yeah, there's what, you know, 15, 20,000 tickets a day,

and I don't think that adds up to, you know, in total to $48 million. So it reminds me of like Arnold Palmer and, was it Arnold Jack that like split the gate during the famous playoffs? Yes. It's like, oh, don't worry, we're gonna split the gate for this.

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KVV is a guy that knows a thing or two about front porches. He glossed the Omni home set the best front porch in America. Wow. It's really great. That's no joke. Yeah. Dijon and I had some, I brought some beers

that the gas station up the road. We sat out on the front porch. We did that game where you pass around the phone and each could have picked a song. It was a big DJ picked tonight tonight, whether it's Magic Pumpkins, like four times in a row. It's amazing, truly in all time night. Any more leaderboard names that we that we haven't gotten to yet. T.C.

I mean, I want to see I want to issue an apology. I want to issue an apology because I I limited you to 10 yesterday. I've never seen so much feedback. Like this. That's a like trance. That's the best part of much feedback. It's like this. That's a lot of electrons. That's the best part of the show. That's the beast. That's the beast.

It's so many. There's so many electrons out there, though. So like they're probably making a 4,000 of the 6,000 people watching live right now. So you know what? You're wearing your dumb ass tuxedo. Go ahead, man. Just just cook for a while.

Nice tuxedo, okay? It's the time. First of all, tip your weighters tonight, folks. Okay. God, where do we, okay? This is time. First of all, tip your weighters tonight folks, okay? God, where do we start? I think you guys owe an apology to Dustin Johnson. This was, I remind you this was confidential privilege conversation that you're referencing here.

I don't think I said, I did say I was selling Dustin Johnson and then he made an eight on the second hole. So I don't feel really bad about that. In the easy way too. Like let's be clear here. And then he went on eight on the second hole. So I don't really feel really bad about that. Easy way to let's be clear here. And then he went on to play the rest of the round in like four under. So, you know, DJ, you did say that, yeah, Dustin wants no part of this grind. I did. I said he'd be the best best member guest player in the history of the world right now. So, do we want to reevaluate the stock today?

Cause I'm still need to see a stock is flat to yesterday. It's completely flat to yesterday. So you know, you guys do with that. What you will I already sold online. Are you buying more? Yeah, you can have fine. All right. I'm going to get a little dabble and put in my ETF plays.

Harris English flushing it. 66 today. H, H, H the flutter. H, he's going to be in the shallay with the original H, E, uh, Min Woo Lee guys 65 today. Uh, this, this guy's showing up a lot in big tournaments. I didn't see his fit today. Was it good? It was fine. Okay. I didn't see his fit today. Was it good? It was fine.

OK. It was kind of bring by his standards. He could bring that mock-turtle back, that rashi. All the rashi? Yeah. If I was to make the media, it would just just mun min, mun min, the unmin will real quick. Media was asking him, what do you think about the setups?

It's like a fair setup or what do you should, you know, and he was like, I don't know, it's my second US Open, so I'm gonna be a good best next. It was pretty sweet. If I, I hate to do this to Menwu, if I had to pick a name, knew the top is leaderboard likely to not be there by the end, Menwu would be my pick.

Really? Yeah, I think, I mean, I'm coming. I'm coming. I'm not. I mean, it just feels like he's got explosive tendencies. And he's an unstable compound. Yeah. I think the more the firmer and drier it gets though,

the more... The more... Vibranium or whatever, all those things. It's like, it's like a 107th element. Why, I don't know why that hit me so hard. What's the, what's the gas from the rock? VX poison gas We wish we could we could uninvent it

Unstable was the problem queen You see don't know what minu has Guys Sam Bennett like You want to talk about a virus or a gas or something? Get him out of here. Get him out. I'm gonna need to see. I was gonna say, I need to see more here to join you on this.

Tee-ee, I don't see it. I'm kind of down with Sam. I mean, showing up at the masters like he did, showing up at the US Open playin' like this. I know you don't like the routine. Showin' up on January 6th. Potentially. Maybe.

We're not know that this is artists Funky tweeted this early I we do not know this I'm not joining you yet I I I've adjoins what Sam and it has made a lot of a lot of long-time professionals made like look like little boys And a couple make a championship this year. Let's give him proper credit You want to talk about a guy that just is taking down BDE's Tron Guys guys kind of only you know, he's beating the shit out a lot of boys. He's part of the reason you got to wear a tux right now That's exactly right so we'll get some little in person. I don't know if you guys have seen him in person

But he's like I bet he wears like 28 waist like first palace I just the go to the pace of play person, but he's like, I bet he wears like 28 waist like first palace. I just the go to the pace of play. Just take it all the way guys. I can't do it. I can't do it. As we know, go to a great reason to rally thousands of fans against this guy. That go to is bad. Bad man. We'll talk Scotty. Cam Smith got it, got a handed to him.

Yeah. Great round. You guys are the biggest haters out there, Pam. Oh, I hate it. Gotta, gotta hand the to him. Two things on that. Easy wave, however, nominate somebody for that will benefit greatly in a harder wave

would be Cam Smith for sure. Like his creativity around the greens and short shots. Like this, again, Cam's dressing up how different all of this shit is about short shots. So again, I can't stress enough how different all of this shit is about to get. My guy picked one. Yeah, I don't think we needed to. Solid, will you apologize?

You said when majors come around, quote, you don't look to big tone. I mean, we're talking about winning right now, right? Where he's not not picking him to win. And no, I've, you should apologize for years and years and years of doubting. I've been on, no, now I've been in his corner for years. I think I got Charlie Charlie Hoffman. I was not aware of this

first appearance involved. We'll take that away. We'll get to the coverage. Some I suppose Brian Harman, he had an interesting situation today with a rules official. I miss the. Oh, yeah, he was it was on what seven. He was trying to get TIO relief from like like almost lost on seven and the guy held his ground didn't give it to him.

It was great. Harmon kept kept coming at him and he was like, no man like you're not getting it. So really really appreciated that. That was that. Yeah. Justin saw one of my top 10 picks for the week, 69, 69, just as expected, T12. Re-U-Taro Nagano. Give me something on Nagano. What, what, here is this is going to be thoughts on you. This is going to be start calling for you. All right, this is it. All right. All right. I don't have any of these pitch counts getting up there, man. Let's get someone warming up. A couple of guys I want to shout out.

I want to shout out Nick Hardy, 7069. He's right there in the mix. Nick was banged up last year. I talked to him some this week. I am buying a lot of Nick Hardy stock. I think he's. I know we need to see it, man. I know it's what everybody keeps saying. I'm I'm I think he's totally freed up now having him all in one

the the Zurich this year. He's he's locked up on tour now. I've forgotten about three years. That's a huge thing. Another guy I think is really like starting to show some serious signs of like BD tendencies. Austin Eckrope. I think Austin Eckrope is going to play well this weekend. 71-68. He's right there with Sam Burns, Keith Mitchell. One of the hottest players in the world, Ryan Gerard. You skim my guy, Jenny McCarthy playing some of the best golf in the world. I did. Yeah. Danny McCarthy.

The big golfer. The big golfer was loitering. He got cited for loitering today. And they took him back to minus one. NBC was getting a little too much joy out of drive by his own Bryson today. It was it was like all tape shots of him making bogeys was pretty much the only time we saw it today. Yeah. Otherwise, I don't know.

I mean, see, we kind of melted down there the stretch. Victor's hanging in. Doesn't seem like he's got his best stuff hanging in. Pretty subdued outfit there. Joaquin, I was expected more out of him today. Sawhith, 66 today, liked it. I don't know what to do. Sawhith, man. I just talk about somebody just, you can't predict at all. I thought this was going to be his week of Super wide fairways drive it wherever you want and I just I don't know There's a bummer of the edge, but he could be another volatile element for sure. Yeah very Billy Horschl went from not being able to find the clubface but also being very close at memorial a few weeks ago

To shot 67 today and made the cut T30 and I think that's admirable and just shows you how fine the margins are in professional golf tied with Brooks who you know seemingly had the world figured out over the last month and a half. Otherwise I want to shout out the Sarge, not our Sarge, the other Sarge, the Young Sarge, Gordon Sarge, the Sarge, not our Sarge, the other Sarge, the young Sarge, Gordon Sargent, uh, low am 71, low am, uh, tie with the likes of Brooks and Tom Kim, uh, Colin Worcawa, who showed some grit down the stretch I think today. I would like shout out more cow as well. There was, there was a grind there to make the cut, uh, obviously not at full strength

with his back and comes in strabs. Who birdie six hits a sick five wood or three, but I'm not sure what it was into seven mixed birdie there. Then flips over and birdies eight made a pretty gritty putt to do that to get to even par. And I've just I want to shout that out. Didn't go as well for our boy Max Holman, his group, which we'll talk about at some point as well.

Yeah. Yeah. See, I'm just serving stuff up on a platter tonight. I see that? I'm trying to. We're about to hit 6,000 live viewers, which will be that will be time for you to hit your apology. And there it is.

6,000 official viewers. D.C. with the telephone is over. Made Cut for Sergio P. got shadow band on the telecast this evening. They refused to show him. All they wanted to show was. Allegedly. This is gonna end up in court if you're gonna make statements

like that. I wish I could see. I'm on P. He's defending P. Oh my god, we're gonna end up on the go shot. We're gonna end up on the plaintiff's side of a suit. All right, we can't be having that. We can't afford that.

I'm an experienced federal witness. I'm okay. We're okay. P needs to start paying to have his posts boosted. On the telecast, I think. He needs to pay for that blue check mark. Yeah. Yeah.

I wish you could have seen Lady J's outfit this week. You know what? Somebody sent me a picture of us this morning. Oh, did you? Okay. Good. I didn't even need a cup of coffee this morning. He was so good. Oh, my God. Not this similar to my outfit right now, KVB. It was honestly it was.

It was like she had cut it to like taking a pair of scissors, cut up a tux, sewn it back together in a random thing with a blindfold on and then wore it to the course. Yeah. Surgey, I made the cut. I didn't see that coming. A couple of amps, Maxwell, Moldovan,

and Aldrich Hotgeider, both made the cut as well, Ben Carr, as well with the Wave God, Willie Wilcox on the bag for him. I want to give a shout out to, I want to give a shout out to Patrick Cantley for making the cut really, really solidifying his major resume there.

That's strong. Who's the title? He's tied with John Rom. Okay. And who's daddy? Yeah. Is John wrong? You have a tux on? No, Tommy. Tommy Fleetwood is why I have a tux on right now. And Listen, I apologize that that my Tommy takes have offended you guys. I apologize if if you guys are uncomfortable with these takes, I apologize if... I don't think doing apologies for getting offended.

I don't think that's not doing. Yeah, I don't think apologize. You were good at it, not a spirit. Yeah, that's not it. What do you guys want me to apologize for? What? Supporting my guy? We want you to be sorry.

We don't want you to apologize for it. We want you to, sorry for what? I'm asking. I think just a little self-awareness of the reality of the situation of like this is TC I hate this More than anybody is he's been a pretty middleing pretty middleing player and I think maybe you've you've gotten your You've had your fan hood just color color your takes on all of this for years now

I think that might have been well. It might have been waging Tommy down. I mean, he admitted that last week that your support perhaps got pushed him to make some mistakes. I'm in the can open. I don't think we're ever going to burn. It's a big burden. Apologize for rooting for your guy. That's beautiful. I think you just maybe have lost perception a little bit.

Yeah, for sure. I mean, you know, he was top top five and two of the four majors last year. I think you just maybe have lost perception a little bit. Yeah, for sure. I mean, you know, he was top top five and two of the four majors last year. You know, he was until this week, he had, he had shot the lowest score in US Open history. I would like to do one other guy. Yeah, but, you know, it just, you know, T five last year, the PGA, T four, the Open Championship, the old course, things of that nature lost in a playoff last week at a, at a provincial open.

So you know, so you know what, on behalf of Tommy and Finno and everybody in the greater liver pool area, I want to apologize. I'm sorry, sorry for, for sorry for fluffing Tommy. And I have full confidence in him to make this apology look silly in the long run, okay? That's great. That was heartfelt. That's, I feel like what we needed.

I was hoping that, I was hoping you saved at the end. You flipped it at the bottom. I was hoping you do the, was it the Michael Bluth or whatever it is from the big short to say, like, I'm not wrong. I'm just early. I was really totally hoping you flip that in there. Yeah. No, I mean, that's, that kind of goes without saying.

He's still in the models. You know, a lot of other guys that probably should be on the, on the chopping block or on the apology circuit here prior to Tommy Tommy's done nothing but produce. So, you know, that's that's all I have to say about that. Thank you, TC. We we greatly appreciate that that brings to a conclusion the the down leader board section of tonight's show. But Kevin, you did some writing today. There's been a hot, hot debate on LACC, what is a major setup, what is a US open? We've lost, have we lost a US open? What did you find in your writing today?

What conclusions did you reach? You tweeted some very interesting stuff today, and I'm wondering if you could take me there. Yeah, so I was thinking a lot about this this morning, and if you're one of these people who's tired of talking about Us with the rollback stuff that that you know you want to mute me every time we bring that up You might want to mute this section because we're gonna go there. I think because I do not think that logically You can support a position of that the US open should be hard

But also like I'm against the rollback because the line is just too thin for the USGA to go from a stupid setup to an easy setup with the equipment like this. It's impossible for them. You could see when John Bowden-Hammer got on live from last night, that he was almost just resigned. I don't know what do you guys think we should do because we're kind of screwed. Like the weather didn't wind on blow and it rains a little bit. It's moist. We got no no defense. And it isn't just LACC. It's pretty much any course. And the players have bitched and complained so much when they do press it really hard that they lit. I don't know if people remember this, but they literally golf digest for part of this three years ago. The players talked about boycotting the US open.

They said they had 15 to 20 people. Both DJ and Rory were allegedly among them. They never came out and denied it. So I just can't lay it. It was probably leading the charge, probably. Allegedly. So I think that the USG is just in an impossible sort of position. I mean, we got Brandyl online from talking about how,

we need to be implanting trees because that's how golf courses used to have trees so that they could burn them for firewood. We're just completely inventing things. Yeah, we're just inventing things now, I think, to sort of fight this take. I mean, I don't know what you do. It look either if you're okay with the scores being low, if you look at this board and you think like, yeah, 10, oh, 10 under that's fine. If you look at this board and you think, yeah, 10 under, that's fine. And you are also like, I don't want to see them roll back the ball. Then I think that's a consistent position.

That's safe. But so much of what I see out there is the same people who are like, the rollback is just lame, man. That's so stupid. Also, I want to see carnage, man. I want to see these guys just absolutely getting absolutely just raked over the bunkers.

And it's not just ball rollback. No. Like, let's not just demonize the ball. It's like, the driver and all sorts of stuff. Like, let's just regulate golf, right? And again, we've covered a lot of this, but it's like, it's such a trickle down effect of so many things.

And when you have, they've discussed this online, from they've discussed it on the telecast, when you have lofted clubs coming into some of these greens, you need the perfect amount of firmness or it just doesn't matter. It just bypasses so much of what the intended challenge of these shots is supposed to be. Seventh hole has been great to watch all week

because like Rory's stuff won in there and made birdie. Colin Moore cow has stuffed one in there and made birdie because the longer the shot, the more likely there is to be dispersion and more likely is to be separation among golf shots. And the more often the drives go far and everyone ends up with shorter clubs, you're gonna get tighter dispersions

and you're gonna get less separation and you're gonna get less identification of the skill. That's kind of the whole thing and it just trickles so frickin hard, so quickly into everything. And it's on display, is on full display this week. There's not a golf course that is, with no wind that these guys will not pick the fuck apart.

So I could not agree with you more on the seventh hole, but I gotta enter into the record that it's 300 fucking yards. That's my point though. It's like they have no, no, no, no. I don't know. I agree with you more on the seventh hole, but I gotta enter into the record that it's 300 fucking yards. That's my point though. It's like they have no, no, I don't do yards. I'm with you. It's just like, man, we can't, like that's gotta be bullet point number one.

Yes. Like, yeah, this is what we have to do. Like this is, like they're testing it in proportion now. Yes. And but like that proportion means that it has to be fucking 300 yards. I think one of the things I'm worried about it gave you, like, it's so long. Or grow the rough up, like, it's so long, it has to be fucking 300 yards. I think one of the things that I'm pretty joking about

it gave you be like, it's so awesome. It's like a lot of golf ball on a part three. Three, yeah. The course is both playing too easy and you can lose the golf ball on a part three. That's the sort of position that the USJ has found themselves. And I think a safe place to be also in this argument is like, hey, I want it narrow fairways

and thick ass rough. Like, I disagree with that. Yes. I don't like watching that. I think it makes the test very monotonous. And that is called a penal style of architecture. That is, you know, basically hit it here or else you're going to pay a price.

I don't find that to be the most entertaining golf. I think this kind of exploratory nature of golf is much more entertaining. I think it would be way more entertaining with a golf ball that didn't go as far, right? So look, I'm not even going to argue with you. If you like Torrey Pines more and you want to see the thick rough and you want to see the narrow fairways, I'm not going to tell you you're wrong. That's kind of, that's the whole thing of this. But if you're looking at what the USGA is saying, what Bowdoin Hammer was saying going into this,

what Mike, Mike Wan has said going into this? What everyone has said is like, this is not gonna be your grandfather's, like, US open. We don't care about even hard. They keep advertising that it is. That's a bad thing. I'll get all of them. I will say that, that's more on the shitty commercials and the house ads that they're running

that should not be happening. But like, they're clearly communicating. If you listen to our preview pod, we said what, there'd be 64s out there. I didn't think there'd be 62s or two eighths as Brooks refers to it. I thought there would be 64s because it's just like you can do it with wide fairways.

That's just math. And it's not solving the equation just to grow the rough up and to, it doesn't address the distance issue. You're talking about a different test. And like, again, it's this whole web of same conversation but like, it's on display. I don't know what more evidence you need to see that the ball shouldn't,

it shouldn't be this easy to hit the ball this far. Think of like what are the three most iconic US open venues in the country? That will be Oakmont, Pinehurst. How dramatically different are those three courses? You could never make those courses play the same, even if you had an absolute unlimited budget. So part of like the USGA isGA's pitch ought to be like, hey, the course determines what the score is going to be.

It's going to be hard, but sometimes it's just going to be out of our control that we're going to have 12 under is going to win. And that's okay. I think we ought to talk about that. Defans in general will be like, hey, quit asking that every US Open be even par because under current conditions and with equipment, that's not possible. Or support the rollback.

And maybe it will be. Yeah, I'm with you, KBV. I think that's smart. I think to your point, Tron, it's just going to take a decade to unwind the messaging that has been going on here, though, right? And the USGA, it's really hard, man. It's hard for them to do that, but the first step would probably be to stop selling hats

with fucking grit on them. And all these commercials about the toughest test and golf and all that stuff, which, I don't know. That's where I think it's like, well, yeah, man, that's why people who only watch for golf tournaments here are all fired up about red numbers numbers like that that makes total sense to me It's just Kevin. I'm with you that like an identity to me if we wanted to like get that You know kind of on the nose about it is like man

We're just gonna go to the best golf courses we can find and we're gonna put on the best test possible That's honestly what I think like the PJ championship has done a pretty good job of the last couple years I can't really speak to the venues that they're going to, you know, the next like four or five. There's some real stinkers in there, I think, but I think the US Open has a good chance to make that their identity. And it's just gonna take a while to get the rest of the public there, I think.

I think there's a lot of weirdos in my mentions today being like, you guys need to admit that this course sucks. It sucks. I was like, I am not going to admit that because you're a fucking idiot if that's your take is that this course sucks like I feel confident in saying that. So what the men vend it was whatever you wanted to be, but there was a lot of calls that you guys should apologize. You should be accountable for this.

Yeah, I think I'm just going to go ahead and enjoy this course. Like I'm feel pretty comfortable on that island. It's like when I chime in on the Jags Play calling, like I don't know what I'm talking about. Like I don't, like I can get mad when they call a draw play on third and eight, but like I don't know fucking. The play calling is pretty good.

I got no problem so that. Right, but I'm specifically criticizing it without any bit of information about it. And it's like also the second drive of the game Then yeah, maybe maybe that's not the the best insight right and even even when it wasn't firm this week Like how could you look at what was happening out there and not see that like good golf? I again, maybe we're a little bit I Don't want to say bias. I want to say like informed in terms of

Standing on the 11th tee and seeing these shots, standing on the 17th and seeing that shot, seeing how blind the shot is on six, seeing how difficult it is to wrap that around and thread the needle on the shot into eight, seeing how difficult it is to hold the 17th green in person, is like, dude, it's not set up too easy. Let me take that back.

Yesterday was set up a bit too easy with some of the pins, but it's not like this golf course cannot contain the best pros. Like it is still rewarding good shots. It's punishing bad ones. It's just the scores were lower in relation to part of them, what people wanted. And there was just no patience yesterday. That's solid. That's my thing is like there's different ways to test guys. Yes. Right? Like you still got to get the ball in the hole. You still got to, but we got to make more birdies this week. It doesn't necessarily mean that it's necessarily easy or that the margins aren't thin or that, but cool, you got to make more birdies this week. It doesn't necessarily mean that it's necessarily easy

or that the margins aren't thin or that, you know, I think we're going to see that kind of reverse tomorrow of like, it's really tough to go from playing offense to tomorrow. These guys are teeing off at, like, Wyndham Clark and Ricky Fowler go off at 3.40 pm, specific time tomorrow. Like, that's a full day of sun before that and a full day of dry wind.

Like that it's going to be fiery as fuck tomorrow afternoon. And the appetizer for it is going to be huge. Yeah, and these guys are flipping to playing defense a little bit. And I think there's there's sorry for anybody listening on the pod. The cloud, not a good comment. So T.C. company is going to surely tipple. But like, and I'm sure the USJ is going to get cute with the setup tomorrow, which I think they should. Tomorrow should be, I hopefully the day

that they're going to do the short thing on the par three, 15th, and that they're gonna do some really tucked pins. You know, like shit today, I thought the, the whole location on 14 was awesome. Thought there were some other really, really good the whole locations, like on 12th, that was a good one. I got a stamp, I got a pen sheet that I'll get to you Cody here if you can display it. Can we talk about 15 for a quick sec before we move on?

Real quick, one other thing I've got, Faxon's tweet was so stupid. Did you guys see that one? No, what was it? It was basically just like, yeah, like if you guys rule about the ball, like Roy's still gonna be the best driver. And it's like, yeah, that's the point, man.

Like that actually means some, a little bit more. It means something. I think he was saying that a lot of the guys that are contending are outside the top 60 in driving distance. After one round, which is like, I'm happy to reevaluate that after four rounds. And also it's distracting from the conversation, I think.

Because it's not like, it's just bad faith, right? It is bad faith. Which like I expect a lot more like from fax and than that. The pins, go ahead. Go ahead, go ahead. 15 has been such a disappointment so far. It's been so tame and I'm not not even from just like the shop perspective but like Maffit's Patrick made a hole in one today and he was like yeah it barely like anybody was excited like they barely cheered and I thought it was kind of weird. And I was like that's what a indictment of this like terrible crowd that like there's a hole in one and they're just basically like,

oh, what happened there? They bought the all pulled a blocky. Did it go in? I'll lock you was out there doing a doing a do in multiple activations. I'll say 75 to 80% of the time I agree with that KVV until this afternoon when there was a little bit of wind coming off the left and some firmness. It activated that pin so quickly. It was like it became. All in it. We're coming through there. Yes. Really good. It added the suspense of like, can you land it on this backstop and get to come back or did you go too far and like have a three putt? It was the birdie bogey dividing line that we've been hoping for at this championship. It finally came. It just took a little while to get there. It was, I was amazed how just a little bit of firmness really

shifted how that 15th whole played. But I've been, I agree. It's been like, look at the, at earlier this morning, it was like the first 28 guys hit the green this morning on 15. And it's like, damn, I can't not a whole lot. You can do about that when there's no wind, but it was just a little tough to, tough to see that. But I can't. Maybe don't like put it down that tongue. I was going to say you don't burn like the middle pin position. Hell yeah. Like there was some sick three puts towards the end of the day there, but I want to see it front and then I want to see some weird shit in the back.

Can confirm it is front right six on five from the right. I'll thank you to Michael Kim for sending this over again, six from the right, six from the left five from the right. Thank you to Michael Kim for sending this over again. Six from the right. Six from the left five from the right in the front right corner on 15 today. We are assuming that it'll be about 78 to 82 yards somewhere in that. That's where Ricky said he would lay up if it was there. Leave that up real quick. Can we go down the pin sheet here? Oh God. No, two, I mean two is pretty similar. It's like it's same side of the green, just a little bit closer. Like, that's a really tough pin on two, especially if the greens firm up to keep it there.

Like to lay it on the green and keep it there. I didn't get to hit on three today. You were saying that, too, John. I was right in the middle of the green. Yeah, I did not understand why I was just in the middle of the green just waiting to be attacked after. It was attacked yesterday in the back left. It felt like it was time to ramp that up.

They have it, 21 on three from the right tomorrow. So I'm guessing we'll see how we fight back a little bit on that. And I'm assuming they'll put it in the molar like front right on Sunday then on three. I assume so too. And it is front right, four on, four from the left, four from the right on the fifth hole tomorrow,

which is six. That is very sick. That hole is completely changing. Six is all the way on the left, four from the right on the fifth hole tomorrow, which is six. That is very sick. That whole is completely changing. Six is all the way on the left and in the back, five on and five from the left. So that will be a very different hole than what we've seen so far. That is the narrowest part of that green eye. Imagine we'll see a lot more shots to the right tomorrow than we do. Then we have so far this week, especially if it does get firm.

That is where a lot of guys are hitting like three wood down into that right spot there though. So you might see some more guys go for it too. We watched it, I'm sorry. I'm sorry I'm sorry. I'm sorry I'm sorry. Yeah, so I'm saying, but they're gonna hit it far like over there to have the angle

and they're gonna like go for that pin. I think looking elsewhere. Nine, I think is is an interesting one, a little bit farther back, bringing that bunker and some of that stuff over the green into play. 10 front left. That's a tough pin. Like kind of very, very blind. 11 should be a really cool one for using that kicker off the hill, right? Down in the front, right? We're going to see a lot of a lot of putts back at it from, you know, kind of the back part of the green. Also, 34 on and eight from the right and on seven.

I imagine that I imagine that one to be up tomorrow because otherwise that's going to be the longest part three, I think in US Open history. I hope they do. That'd be sweet. Which to it, I think 14 is interesting where, you know, back left, probably the most accessible of the whole locations there, unless there's some crazy slope back there. And I think that, that's interesting because it kind of allows guys to get a little bit more aggressive there. And I'd like to see a little bit more fireworks. And there's some short grass run off there with a tough tough pitch there I was watching

Sheffler practice that one early and as we mentioned front right on 15 Pretty accessible on 16 it looks like 17 kind of front front leftish and then 18 Middle left so nothing nothing crazier, but that's ramping up us open style on for the weekend And I'm guessing they'll get a little funky with some of the teas and some of the setup. Usually they try to get through those first two rounds with a somewhat similar setup to try to get the waves as even as they possibly can, but that is exciting.

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I think we I think we got to talk about the pro guys. It's time. It brings me no pleasure. But we got to we got to talk about that. That's that's just not what you're looking for today out of our guy Max John Homa. That's tough. He looked so good on day one. Like he held it together and I was with that whole round. He felt like he had sort of gotten over the hump and I didn't get to see a lot of his round, but every time I looked up, he was just in a bunker out of position, boning himself in bad spots. I don't know. I was hoping to take some positives from yesterday and in the kind of like he didn't seem to have his best stuff and he still put up a good score and Today he didn't seem to have his best stuff and put up a pretty bad score 76 today

So I don't know what to say man. I mean we were talking about it a little bit offline and it is just so clearly a mental thing with Max He talked about it a lot in his Pre-tunament press conference. KVV, I don't know if you were in there for that. If you want to summarize maybe some of what he said, but I thought he was very vulnerable and kind of almost set a lot of the quiet parts out loud as far as what ended up happening.

Yeah, I missed his presser, so I just kind of read the transcript. So it might be better for you to sum it up. But I mean, I just, I feel firm because I think we're in that stage where the wanting it is what prevents the thing from happening. And I think you see a lot of guys who they don't win a major by a certain age and all of a sudden it just every single time around feels like, you know, a millstone around their neck. And that's where our max is right now. And, you know, I'm not going to say it's not going to happen because he's got, you know, a millstone around their neck. And that's where our max is right now. And, you know, I'm not going to say it's not going to happen because he's got, you know, another 10 years of,

I'm sure, like, pretty good golf to be played. And that's a lot of majors. But, you know, he's going to have to sort of have something where he plays great and he clicks. And all of a sudden, like, he's able to sort of erase, you know, a lot of mental demons, I think. Yeah, we can't, you know, he's, I don't wanna say, we can't treat him with kick gloves,

because I don't think we have. We've talked about his major record a lot, and it's nothing that he doesn't know, right? He's pressing now in majors and he's trying to, I don't know, I didn't feel on day one, like he was pressing, right? But then today, it just felt like as soon as he got behind the A-Ball, he was pressing. I saw him throw his putter on seven, which I don't think I day one like he was pressing, right? But then today it just felt like as soon as he got behind the eight ball, he was pressing.

I saw him throw his putter on seven, which I don't think I've ever seen him do in a tournament. But the frustration is just, it's very obviously there. I think back to like six months ago or so, maybe less than that when he was talking about after the farmers, and especially with his hot start to the year, how great his mental golf battle had been and working with the sports psychologist, Julie's her name I forget her last name,

but how much that had helped him? And it, you know, when I talked to him a lot of weeks ago and just like kind of seeing his demeanor out there today, like I don't, didn't feel like he was still carrying that same energy, right? And that just shows the pressure of major championship golf. And it's why we hold the guys that go show up

in these events. I've used this phrase a lot. When everyone wants to play their best the most, who actually rises to the occasion. And I think that's why the dudes that we've seen do it so often over their career, we kind of maybe shredsander a little too much for his major record. And it's like, dude, that guy shows up in the majors. When the golf gets hard, he shows up and plays better. And that's not happened for Max yet.

And I hope it changes. It's just, I really hate to end this on the biggest cliche imaginable, but it just doesn't feel like he's playing at one shot at a time right now. And he would probably just... And that was his whole thing in the pre-tournament presser. He was so conscious of, man, in these majors, you just gotta be aware that everybody's gonna make bogus

and I make a bogie and I start pressing and it turns into the end of the world. And it's, I don't know, you don't know if that's what was going on today, maybe just didn't have it today and it was, that happens too. But yeah. I don't know, I feel today like, like we're talking about him, like he, you know, he went out and shot 81 like JT. He had, he doubled the last two holes. Yeah, right otherwise he's inside the cut now He that was his front nine. He he all right. They wipe they they wiped the asterisks when they

When they did it. Yeah, he battled a little bit on the front made three birdies on the front was kind of just going back and forth and back and forth and double on That makes more sense. I was I was watching him down the stretch and seeing birdies. Okay, but yeah, I mean, it's like, you made three doubles today, right? Like you just can't do that. It's, I'm sure he's pressing. I'm sure he's trying to make birdies and it's just not there. And I'm sure it's like Rory at Port Rush or, yeah, sure. Or, you know, any number of other guys that play their hometown event.

And, you know, and, but it's weird where, like he won his hometown event at Riviera, right? So they're like, what's the disconnect between a major and, you know, a massive, massive, like the genesis at, at, at Riv, right? Let me say though, when like he won his first, you know, one that Riviera, but like he was never like the favorite that day. And the one was like thinking like, oh, his max is is Max gonna win like he came flying up the board, you know Tony probably played, you know just bad enough to kind of let him

64 he shot that's not do that cave 64 when when all the expectation was when he really wanted to win win riv two years later That's when he felt like he was, win, rid of two years later, that's when he felt like he was pressing a little bit. I think people always like use that home game model of like, oh, it's gonna help this person. I almost always think, I thought it was such a funny take when people were like,

Groy's gonna win a Port Rush, because it's back coming back home. Now that is like such a misunderstanding of Groy's like emotional sort of makeup. Like nothing could have been sort of harder on Groy than playing at Fort Rush. And I think Max has some of that same kind of sense. I though just like to pivot to Rom here because think about like how good Max and John

were at the beginning of the year when they had that battle at Rive. And now look what happened to the both of them here in this like. Rom has slowly kind of been the sort of leak in air for a couple, you know, a month and a half. And now both of them, I mean, Ron made the cut, I think, but I'm not sure. I'm not sure, like barely. I just, I don't know, I've had people in my mansion so I'll ask you to apologize for the problem.

I will apologize. I will apologize. I don't know if you do it. It's a touch apology, but I would be there with you. I thought for sure this was gonna be the ground slam. I know. I mean, I thought he would be great. be the ground slam. I know. Week. I thought he would be great.

Yeah. Why not? So close. It's, yeah. I mean, you need constant reminder of it, like three times a year, every year, that just those streaks don't last forever, man. And that's where again, where like, Scotty says lasted so freaking long. And it just keeps going and keeps going and keeps going.

And like, I kind of, not the skip to that that part but I kind of think he's gonna win it It's gonna win Scotty I don't trust I don't trust the putter one bit. He was whining and seven today He's always whining. Yeah, I know it's how you know it's hard Exactly. I mean I might take a second look up You know what his stroke scheme was putting today. He was fairly above, he was basically neutral. So, which is great for him. Yeah, it is. It's great for him.

I don't know. He made a clutch parcer. He made a clutch parcer. On two today, he did miss a couple decent putting looks. And he shot 32 coming in without really making much of anything. Honestly, he had a two putt birdie on eight, stuffed it in there tied on six, two putt birdie on one.

The par saver on two was really the only putt he made on that back, his back nine, the front nine, and he made a clutch birdie on 16 today, which not a lot of guys were making birdie on that one. But again, we're tossing the ball back up, and it's a totally different ball game. And that's where I've been just hand up on Scotty this whole time, is like, I trust the dude

that's in the most control of his golf. But he didn't drive it great today, but when it gets really hard, I think it's gonna be so perfect for Scotty. And I'd be very surprised if he doesn't make a run. All right, all right, I got some action then for you, big chief. Let's go, came and Scotty are playing together tomorrow.

I was hoping you're actually that. Sure. What do you want to do? Apology better. You want to go more than that. Straight up. I'll wear the tux again tomorrow night. If I don't, you got to go out and rent a tux. I'm not renting a tux. I'm not rent a tux. All right. I own a tux. This is this is no. Here's the back. Do you have a tux? Here's the back. You're neighbors now, you can wear TCs. Here's the bet. We will end the show tomorrow night and we'll do the thing where neighbors now

for people that don't know. We'll end the show and you can go down the leaderboard for as long as you want until I get to your house. And so I will run from my studio to your studio and I will have to manually stop you and that's how we'll end the show tomorrow night. I think that's shorter than I went tonight. But that's the second day. That would be your second 30 seconds. That's nothing.

That's second going down the leaderboard. You get a second bonus going down the leaderboard section that I will have to manually stop and I will I'll put it I'll go live on my phone too so I'll film the whole run to your house at like one in the morning whenever it'll be. All right. I think that's a great bet. Okay. That's that's straight up That's that's their round tomorrow. I don't start Tomorrow straight up. Are you getting any strokes or no? They play a stroke? Okay, no strokes. No, I'm fucking Camps one as many majors as Scotty everybody fluff Scotty like he's one five fucking majors or something. It's ridiculous TCU invented Scotty.

I know I did. So I should know better than anybody. Yeah. Yeah. You guys should be at it and then you should see one more. Why is TCU off of Scotty, you know? So anyway, Queen's all right. Mick, let's just quote, quote of the year.

We have such a thing. Was that the vasters? Was that the vasters pod? Yeah. I think it's the worst thing that could happen at golf. Scotty wins his tournament. He has a back down of that. That's that's so

fucking sick. It's time for spieth. It's time for spieth. One do that. JT. Real quick. Real quick. Real quick. We haven't even talked about Rory and I kind of like it that way and I kind of like like maybe we just like just not talk about

it. And I'm not talking about that. I just kind of like like maybe we just like just not talk about Knowledge it like we fairly talked about it, but all right, okay, just not let's just not talk about all right Rory's beef or JT who should we talk the majority of questions were about JT I feel like this needs to be acknowledged. He shot an 81. He beat one person as I tweet I didn't want to tweet out who that was, but Hank Lebiota did in fact reply self-identified self-identified himself. So he ended up beating David Horsey and Brandon Valdez as well. So he was T152 I believe Final second round 81 finished with made a birdie on eight and almost birdied nine to get it in the house, but

Deadlast in the field, strokes came off the T, one 42nd in approach and one 40th in putting, it's all wrong, it's all bad. KVV, I think to my knowledge, you've been the only one to report that he's injured. I have not seen that anywhere else. You mentioned this five, four months ago,

maybe that a hip injury, I've not seen this picked up anywhere, I've not seen him comment on it. I haven't asked him about it. I don't talk to him nearly as much as people think I talk to him, but you see a player of his level, shoot 81, it feels a lot more injury related than it does something else, but it's obviously combining to something horrific right now.

And I'd be curious if we see him continue to suit up if he really is that hurt. I've had two different people tell me that there's an entry issue and I feel pretty confident in both of who they are. So I don't know what maybe he just doesn't want to talk about it. Maybe it's not as serious as a thing and it's sort of combination of things but man golf kind of like has a way of breaking a lot of people and you know I don't want to get in hot water again for sort of saying things about JT because he did a nice job of sticking to me once,

but I just, I hope that there's a reset for him. Like I think, you know, he's been honestly, he's been on this weird diet all year that he's not eating any wheat, not eating any any sort of stuff. It sounds like solid. Sugar like, man, I want to be like, let's get him a candy bar.

I'll say if something's, you know, can help because everything seems off. I mean, hopefully there's a long payoff with all this, but, you know, he talked about how you literally kill someone for a pizza with ranch and whatever because it was pretty bad. But he was committed to a whole year of this new approach. I don't know.

I mean, what I honestly think is, is it a fair take to say like, your dad's been your coach forever? Should he continue to be like, you know, you're 30 years old now? Like your dad's always around? Like, is it maybe time for some other voices? Like, I don't know. I think it's a fair question asked. Like, he, I don't know. And it's not like a, like, an adversarial or antagonistic question. Like it doesn't have to be right. It's just like, Hey, man, like at some point, like do you need more space? Yeah. Or like, well, let's just your best friend Ricky is just went and saw Bush Harman, like maybe like you should go and just have, but you have a talk

with you and see like what you need to work on. I wonder and this is total speculation because again, I don't talk to him about the stuff nearly as much people maybe think, but right before Liv started, JT was the number one player in the world, Data Golfwise, in terms of straight up production on the course, he was number one in the world. So I struggle a year later to be like,

hey, you need to change coaches immediately. That's where it's like, dude, something is going on here, more than it is, A multi-year streak. Eric Sutherland replies here, blocky is only $150 an hour. Well, we don't know that. Yeah. Well, it's. So, now that he's fallen to 23rd in the rankings, that's a huge fall for him. And it's been, you know, he's having the worst year of his career easily since he arrived on the scene really and took the leap in 2017.

But is it across the board too? Like is it mostly approach play, but the putting has taken a pretty solid drop. I mean, he was one of the top three iron players on tour for like a solid four or five year stretch. And it's, he's lost half the strokes. He's gained with approach play and the driver, the driver distance is down just a little bit, but not a ton. It's just really, it just, as the year has gone on,

it is getting worse, missed the cut at the memorial, and now this miss cut, T65 to PGA, was pretty much down-existent there, missed the cut at the masters. It's just really not been a good trend. I'm seeing people calling for his rider cup spot right now, and like if it's, I well, you're not taking a spot or you're saying no, no, go.

No, I want him on the Ryder Cup team. I don't, I think that experience matters. And I think that he and Jordan should continue to be like, you make him the fourth pairing or whatever, the fifth pairing, like, but they should still be like on that team. I'm not as like obsessed with the rankings of as much as some people in terms of filling out my team. I want a team. I said, it would as much as some people in terms of filling out my team. I want a team

I said it would take some drastically bad play for him to fall out of a spot and I think this qualifies right and Luckily, we have a lot of time to figure that out between now and then but if this continues whatever just happened there I'm fine with taking the spot away But I also said like hey, I mean he could be like he's like the US team Sergio I mean, it's kind of a I don't really care how your season is going. You're going to be on that team to play match play. And it would take something injury related to, to really, really, really bad play like this. Like we saw today to tie that spot being questioned.

He's one of the leaders of the team. They have a duo that's been incredible. He's 16, five and three or something in US team sports or team matches so far. Like that, that's a dude that's going to be really hard to pry from that spot unless he has something serious going on. So I hope it's not serious. Man, I think it's like as somebody who kind of just roots for the chaos of the Ryder Cup and, you know, the US team is going to be overwhelmingly paper favorites and all that stuff. Like bringing a really auto form JTE just to kind of see what happens is compelling.

That will be very fun to watch. It's also kind of sounds like KVV with year of the blade stuff going on. Maybe needs to change. It needs to change up to those T200s or something. He's never been the same since I took his custom blades and pretended to shave with them. I'm during our title of shoot. It. Maybe I'm again to blame for right to. Yeah. Yeah. Which if we can get to his, uh, his partner on the US Radar Cup teams, Jordan's spieth is not around for the weekend. Is he, uh, shot plus three, which is, uh, I think

a cause for Mr. Cut on the number, you know, I think we're talking about Jordan like in the past tense guys 29 Who who's talking about Jordan in the past tense? You were today Yeah, come on man. He's just like it's like he's 29 and you were really looking for enemies today I'd select right did you second master's or third of the masters? Right, like, like, like, like, like, Salis, like, acting like he, like, you know what, the magic is gone, the flame is extinguished, all this shit. And I'm like, what are you talking about, man? You're having a try to spoke it.

The magic is definitely, we haven't seen the magic for speed than quite some time. It's like, it's wishful at this point. And I hate that. I want, I want it to feel like he's a force. I said this in the preview pod. You were trying to talk yourself into him in the preview pod.

I said it doesn't feel like his window's open right now. T.C. What was I trying to talk myself into him? I was fully committed. Okay. Here's how you do it, if I may. Jordan is one of my favorite players on the planet. Me too.

I hope he wins every single week, but like he's kind of another guy right now. Totally. That's fine. And I believe in him. Sure. And that's great of another guy right now. Totally. That's fine. And I believe in him. Sure. And that's great. And that's great.

And I will continue to pick him. I hope he, I can't wait to see what he shoots every time he tees it up, but he's kind of just another guy, right? And here's where, here's where I'll fight you T.C. He'll call Paul's and strike. Every time this comes up, you accuse me of just looking at the data. And I've been saying for like literally years,

like the vibes on the course are not it. Like he's way too volatile, he's living and dying with every single shot. He is like throwing a little tantra, it's entertaining. But he does not look a guy that's like stable with his own game right now, confident in his own game. It never feels like it's gonna last 72 holes. It never feels like it's all there.

It feels like he goes on great eight hole runs, but it comes on Man, he's a dad just let him let him be even a boss right now, all right? That's true. He didn't see all we don't know about that We don't know exactly where the bus is after hasn't been very much bus chatter Did it go to Cal did it go to Canada and then make its way back like where's it? Hey? Is it? Yeah, yeah, can we task you with that maybe fighting actually I mean the trackers are fucking fighting man very curious about on Twitter today I want an update on

their beast bus and I also want an update on where Justin Rose's performance trailers at like where is that currently splattered across the United States all with a cold tub in it exactly a cold punch so everybody saw the the FU the big the like, where is that currently splattered across the United States? So all with the cold tub in it. Exactly. Like cold plunge. So everybody saw the FU, the big, the fuck bomb that he dropped, but I think the more someone was him, like taking his hat off and screaming into it

on like the 14th day. Guys, it's just so close, TC. No, he is. The night is darkest before the dawn. You've been sitting for five years now, TC. We've got a bit of a Scandinavian winter situation going on though, unfortunately. It's just it's been dark for a long time. Well, then, then we're, then we're, we're getting into the next season here. Sure. And when we get there, that, that's great.

It just doesn't seem like we're, I'd rather be too early than too late, baby. What bothers me about it feels too early and too late. What story. Is it feels disrespectful to one of the great runs? It's like we're gonna pretend like he's the same guy that he was in any way, even in flashes from 2015. Driving it better now than he was before. Nothing else is better. Like it's not been nearly this, it's not there. It's not sustainable.

We've nursed him back to health. It's the putting has not been something that you feel confident in week to week. I mean, you were all winner. You're just telling me, just got to get him off Poah, just get him off Poah. And then he missed the cut of the US open. He's been really bad at the US open for a streak here. He was T37 last year, T19 the year before cut the year before T65 the year before cut in 2018,

T35 and 17, T37 and 16. Any one and 15 obviously, but. This is solid, you're going down a leaderboard, all right? This is where T3 needs to break out. It's a bad course fit. That's right. However, read his open championship record because I just looked at that.

He's been much better. That's when the other than the masters that's been the place where he's content the most, I'm holding out hope that maybe we'll see something in Liverpool. And as Hoelakes gonna be a sweepstakes. It's going to be like a three way, Tommy, Rory, Spieth, you know.

Lusher's three ways. On the menu and I would T.C. Is it possible they could all win? I can see. I guess, potentially. Where I have a problem, KVV, it's like I hate feeling like I write off Spieth in two of the four majors every year. Obviously he's gonna do his thing in Augusta.

He's obviously always gonna be one of those favorites. A lot of good open shape and chip fits for him. He should definitely learn another open shape and chip in his career. But I hate what he's done for like quite some time now in the other domestic majors that rotate around. And like, I don't see a ton else that like adds up forms. Pinehurst should be good.

You can hate that though, but that might be who he is for the rest of his career. I do have to. I know there are players who historically though who just couldn't compete in certain places. Like, you know, whether it's Bubba, like Bubba was basically like a master's dude and then like, you know, a couple other, you know, maybe one us open thing and like, Lee Trevino, like, you know, was never a content content of the Masters, whether it was because he's skipping it. There's just some guys who are just frankly cannot play on certain setups

and maybe that's gonna be Jordan forever. Thank goodness for him. He got his us open. They know if he ever is gonna win the Grand Slam. I was gonna say the Chambers thing feels a lot like Rory and Congressional felt for about a decade, right? We're like, yeah, all right.

I'm glad we got that one under. You know, can we get for your shout out? I mean, I think I say this all the time, but he's become a really good US Open Player. Yeah, like the last five years been really good. He doesn't want, sure, but he's contended whether he had his good game or not. I'm going to take speech private. I'm going to, I'm going to take him on. I'm going to take a retake a public via SPAC. That seems like something you would put. You would pull off in that tape. Exactly.

Got your mouth polyapathy over here. I don't know what to do with Rory right now. I know we haven't talked a lot of Rory right now, but I thought we were gonna talk Rory. You can talk, I'm gonna play the favorite. Straight up, let's not talk Rory tonight. So I'll talk Rory with him, you wanna talk. I'm gonna plead to straight up. Let's not talk Roy tonight. So I'll talk about it. Have you wanna mute?

I think we can talk Roy tomorrow night. No, I think we've gotten to this halfway point in majors with him a ton lately. And I feel like whatever I've convinced myself has been wrong of what's about to happen. And I don't know what to think, right? I thought going into Southern Hills last year, which I thought was a really good chance for him.

He totally laid the egg that Saturday. There's been a bunch of these early, I think we can build it up in our heads that he always goes out and shoots a million on Thursday and never is never in it. But there's been several of these at the halfway point that's like, dude, Rory's right there. And the Saturdays contend to be a struggle.

I don't know what's gonna happen, but I'm still in wait and see. I need to see it. I think we'll know within four or five holes tomorrow. If like, Roy's in control of his golf ball on a firm golf course, because I can see it going the other way and the way he carries himself will know within a few holes, but I just don't know what we're going to get in those first few holes tomorrow. It's nice that the fairways are kind of wide. So even if he's a little off, I mean, he's driving it really well right now, at least visually. I mean, I wouldn't, I haven't have the stats to back it up, but it sure looks like he's just unloading on the ball and it's going where he wants.

I'd love to see it. I don't want to, I don't want to prognosticate or jinx it or whatever. I think the coolest thing that I can say right now is like, sorry, I'm so with you, I have no idea what's gonna happen tomorrow, which is awesome. Can't wait to watch. It's gonna be really good. It's, again, no predictions, complete coin flip. It's been a little bit of a chore.

I'm really good. Really good. A bit of a chore getting to this point. It's not been the most entertaining two days of golf. I blame the telecast more than I do the golf course on that, but I think it's going to be a dash to the finish. I think the USGA's appetite for a firm golf course is going to be really fucking high after a hell.

Like the question we got, Nick Price, 333, said over under eight and a half as the winning score. What do you guys think? We'll call over being more under part of that. I know that can be confusing. Say that one more time. Over under eight and a half for the winning score. I think it's still 10.

I think it's still 10. I think it is two. There's enough birdie. Even if it gets firm, there's enough birdie holes out there to just keep it. Somebody's gonna make a couple birdies. It's not gonna be a whole leaderboard coming backwards. But I think it is going to be scoring average tomorrow between 73 and 74 would be my expectation. Yeah. I mean, look at Zander today. He played pretty poorly in his

second nine and he's still shot 70. So I think that's a good indication of like you can go a little bit back, but even it's not going to like big time. Nobody's gonna shoot 75, I don't think. Well, that's not nobody, but you know. Man, that's interesting. If it's 10, that means Scotty has to go 67, 68 on the weekend to come back and win. That's a pretty big ass. Interesting.

Interesting. Pretty big ass. Unless, unless everybody else falters. I mean, if he's getting to 10. If it's 10, yeah. Yeah. Which makes me almost, I feel like they're probably right. I think 8 and 8 and 9 is, that's a really good,

it's a really good line, I think. I'll say under, I'll say 8. That's it. This is a good question, I think, because I think we talked about this a little bit on Twitter. Did the USGA make LACC too easy because they're trying to justify ruling the ball back. I'm here for that.

I don't think that's that wild of a conspiracy. I think it's just very much like a... Just the reality. But again, at this point, we're trying to convince Joe Schmo on Twitter. No one that follows the game closely can be this blind to this stuff going on. It's been going on for a long time. This didn't start this week at LACC, you know. Yeah. Yeah. It's a little glowing brain for me. But how far back is too far back? That's kind of what I'm getting at. I feel like. Man, is your boy, Cam, I'm going to go 66, 68. We could 67, 67.

That's a big ask T.C. If this golf course is going to do what we think it's going to do, I think I'm basing this based on names. I think two under is too far back. I think no one at 200 worst will win for sure. I would say I'm right between three and four. So Charlie Hoffman is in it is where he's saying no, he is not. He is 200. He is out. I think Tony is in it. Big Tony's guy that's in. Yeah. Okay.

So solo solo 11th right now. San Benet is in it. For sure. San Benet is at that. That'd be a fun story. I mean, San Benet might be a true baller. I saw Jordan was in the chat earlier taking you to task TC. If you're in the same bed, uh, thanks. Um, you guys want to do a little hamster, Dan? We've kind of say we've saved the tour. Yeah, can we do a lot of a lot of hamster? Sure. I feel like I did it last night, TC. You want to take it?

Yeah, just same, same shit as last night. Um, commercial load is atrocious. Uh, there's no flow to it. They don't seem to, like, it's not only the number of commercials, it's the way that they're managing said commercials. It's, you know, Jimmy Roberts fluff piece, two shots commercial, you know, that there's the buzzing noise that we're hearing. I need to call the FAA and get them to take care of the buzzing noise that's going on, I'm sure that's some sort of... It's another thing you gotta add to your list.

Aircraft, yeah. Their audio is terrible. So this is your thing of like, they're like laying out for Caddy Convos and they don't have the audio form. I'm so sick of what, I don't know what the proper audio term is. I keep kind of like reverb or whatever it is. Like the shots they play on tape, like it'll like play the sound and then it'll reverse it back afterwards

and just like suck the life out of it. They don't have the crowd noise in the right spots. They don't get the impact sound on a lot of shots. Like they're clearly doing this on a shoestring budget. While running thanks to our guy Cody McBride, counting commercials today. It got that baddy at 19 and a half minutes of commercials in a 60 minute window earlier.

That's 33% of the time being spent in commercials. They have how many 58? Again, 55 commercials, I believe, ran in a 60 minute in an hour long period. And it just concluded like on-screen stuff and playing through. And yeah, we're counting that. That is not commercial free time.

I will remind people that Fox, and I get, I'm comparing a Friday to a Saturday, we could miraculously go back to this tomorrow. Fox was paying $93 million a year and running nine and a half minutes, a per hour of commercials on Saturday of 2019, and they are paying like 40 million a year for this. They got it for pennies on the dollar

and are running double the commercials. And it's just, like Ricky would go on a run today and make a badass birdie and then it would just like be the most electric moment that we've gotten so far from this LA crowd, and it would go straight to commercial and it just sucks the life out of it. And maybe, again, it was like totally ejecting and they went to playing through and commercial

right in the middle of it. If Ron made an eagle in playing through, that I totally missed, because nobody actually watches when it's on playing through. Again, they've touted that it's gonna be 30% less commercials this weekend. Again, my reminder to that is how much of an abomination last year was. It's like 30% is probably not going to feel like enough.

And it's, it's just like golf sprang. I got more, I got more. Like all their camera angles are from towers. Like there's not enough like handheld cams. There's too many hard cams. Like there's, everything is just straight down There's too many hard cams. Everything is just straight down at the ground, like washing out, and you got these beautiful vistas and views and all this great stuff.

It's like, we're not getting any of that. And then when they do give us that, they cut away from it too quickly. Like they've got 15 cameras on number 15, right? And they can't seem to stick with that shot long enough Like they cut away too quickly in the wrong spots the the Deloitte bunker cams are disgrace They keep trying to force that in there that once I've Adam Scott's like barely in the shot He's the the the you tired of the rail camera the bunker cam the bunker cam I like the rail cam the rail cams sick. And like, they don't glitchy though still. They need a mule out there to grease it. It's got to be reloom for guys. None of this matters with this commercial load. I don't give a shit what happens

once they're actually in the golf like comparative to this commercial load. It's just a troche is Cody. I don't know what made you want to count them today, but I salute you for that. You're a better man than me. Well, so far it up yesterday that I actually, like, I sat down and I said, I want to figure out what the fuck is going on here. So I took a 60 minute period and it might sound like nothing, the 19 and a half minutes, but I did that for 10 hours. That means that I did this for over, I watched over three and a half hours of commercials today

Like a Lord of the Rings worth of three and a half hours of fucking commercials trying to watch the golf that I'm supposed to be fired up to watch and That you're probably paying for on peacock, dude God that's I literally was like they should have something that you have to pay for where you get to eliminate the commercials like I do I paid ten bucks a month for the cock and they still run that commercial load on it. It's fucking criminal We're getting robbed the worst thing about it is that over a hundred right now over 50% of the commercials We're a combination between house ads Either for NBC or whatever else fucking Nickelodeon and bullshit that they have going on. And USGA stuff.

It's so bad. And then like every playing through, almost had the same repetition of partners. Like it was just bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. And maybe that I finally realized the thing that actually got to me wasn't so much the time. That sucked obviously, right? But it was how many fucking ads, 55 ads in an hour.

It was nuts. It was like, I was getting, I felt like a punching bag, man. And they were just going, one, two, one, two, one, two. And it wouldn't let up. And then you come back from a playing through they show two fucking puts and then we go to a full commercial place. He shows so many puts and then we come back and we might watch one drive, one iron shot, one putt and then we go to another commercial break that isn't playing through.

It's just, oh yes, and this is presented by the USGA. Sign up for your gin app today, which I agree. Everybody go get it, but what the fuck, man? Like this all this stuff could be a ban or this could be whatever it is. Cook, cook, and then Cody, they keep advertising for the US open that we're watching this. This is US open. Check out the US open at Los Angeles Country Club.

This June, like we're literally fucking watching it, man. Like, what is it? Something. This reminds me of where we were at in like 2016, when I was sitting in an apartment in Boston doing the exact same thing, Cody, counting up like logging stuff on a spreadsheet and counting it up.

I was doing it at the area as well, TC. I was true brothers and arms out there. Exactly. And then, you know, but like the crazy part is. It's like the crazy part is. And the CBS has done that, like like CBS took it to heart. It took him a few years, but they took it to heart and they improved it. Yes.

And they took pride in their shit. And like now it's like seller shy in the gang. Like, yeah, best in their shit. And like now it's like seller shy in the gang, like best in the business. And NBC has zero pride. It's a disgrace. Like, and I feel bad for the people that work there because of the position that they're being put in by the people that are managing the show over there.

And as always, this part is not directed with the people in the truck, is like this has been decided that this amount of commercials is okay. I think the people in the truck could also like, this has been decided that this amount of commercials is still okay. I think the people in the truck could also do better. That's a separate thing though. It's like 90% of the problem is.

Yeah, they're told much but in the push. I get it like that. But even still like, okay, so if we're gonna watch the golf, I guess I don't really, I don't get it. Like, it seems like NBC and the golf channel have so many fucking golf personalities. Like, why am I listening to, why is Brando calling golf for me?

Like, he's not good at calling golf. Like, where are the rest of these personalities at? Like, where's our guy? I just don't understand where all these people you have, employees on employees on employees, but they're nowhere to be seen. It's bad. It's bad.

We got Aunt Molly and I will say one thing and shout out to Morgan though. Because Morgan's not a call on one of the peacock feature groups or something like that. She's doing an awesome job. I remember when one like was responding to your tweet, Sally, I'm the man who's going to fix this. Well, allegedly that's what's come in this weekend. And the, allegedly they have moved around all kinds of stuff to do it.

I'm like, dude, you shouldn't have changed the damn contract to begin with. You changed the parameters that you bought from Fox for pennies on the dollar. And like, I get it. It was a loss leader for Fox. Fox did a bad deal. It's the reason they wanted out of it. But like, one also inherited a lot of this shit too.

Correct. If we're gonna invoke his name. Correct. He's inheriting a lot of shit. He's got a lot of shit. He also inherited the corporate hospitality deal that they signed up for signed in the rollback thing.

One is doing his best. I do not put this on one as much as it is like this game has been taken. Like I was so looking forward to getting away from the bullshit of the merge and the PIF and the PGA tour that has let us down on so many different fronts and getting hype for major championship golf. And like just watching this get hijacked in a totally different way is just a nut punch. It's it's below the gut. It just is a Houdini nut punch that is really, really difficult of like I pulled five big randies in the last two days. I have taken five naps watching the golf. I have honestly.

I can't think of a fucking tournament to share that NBC's done that they've like we've been like, oh, that was good. Player's going to get Molly. That was a poly. Brian Roberts, Pete Bavocco, who's gal advancing off into the sunset to go be the idiot Notre Dame. Get the fuck out of here. It's a disgrace. He's been on the job three years and it's just constantly deteriorated and he just Waltz is off to his next gig like the last gig that he had with the pj of America before this it's disgusting Then you started painting the cameras with real gold TC But please it should be for Rolex and the proud people at Rolex

It should be embarrassing when they flash up on the screen that this telecast is presented by Rolex. And then they just fucking like literally sucker punch you a million times in the row with all these fucking other ads. Like what why are we getting so much? Why can't we just watch the fucking golf? And I appreciate the Canadians tell me, you got to check out TSN. I appreciate everybody overseas saying, oh, sky's been perfect. It's great.

I appreciate the Aussies coming in and something, for the business. I was just serious in company. That's not me right here. All right, I asked somebody, said, hey, this has been great. I have no issues on Skye's that perfect. Next year, I'm gonna come over and watch with you.

And also, if you work for some of these companies that are sponsoring this, like contact your marketing department and say, hey, we don't wanna be a part of this anymore, hey, we don't want to be a part of this anymore. Like you should not want your brand a part of this. Like it is. Party yasser. I end up hating your brands because of your advertisements on this because it just is ruining everything.

So next step on the ad read front is I'm just kidding. I'm going to change my pick, by the way. Can I hit you guys with a stat from, of course, from Justin Ray, 25 of the last 27 US open champions have been within three shots of the lead after 36 holes. That's cool, man. Don't pick Xander. It's not the kind of tournament that, you know, guys are not going 65, 65. I think I'm going to rescind my Scotty pick. I don't care. I'm gonna rescind my Scotty pick. Ah, I don't think he's having a back. Uh, I am taking... It's coin flip for me right now,

between the rib and big dick Rick. I'm taking a big dick Rick, so that way Rory will win. I said Scotty at 10, I'm sticking with it. T.C., I'm sticking with it. TC. Going Rick. I'm Rick. You're pick. I'm sticking with Scotty. Cody. I think there's 20. There's two chances in there when it 25 at the last 27. I think we'll have 25 at the last 28 by this time.

You know, I sent a note out today. I told my brother and arms to go get some ice. 25 out of the last 28 by this time. So you know, I sent a note out today. I told my brother and arms to go get some ice, maybe pull out some patties, get them deep frosting overnight, seeing what type of salads I need to bring over because boys from one Hollywood to another, it is fucking Rory McAroy. And that is it. That is happening right here.

Big Dick Rick. I'm sorry. He's still going to stay medium. That'll continue on. Wind him, great playing today. I just don't see it. And man, Scotty, I just don't believe in that putter. He's got some.

I do not think this is the worst of it. Hey, man, brother. Hey, one final question before we get out of here. Anybody that missed the cut other than Max that really kind of got scratched your head at, it kind of shook you. For me, it was Adam Scott. Adam Scott missing the cut other than Max that really kind of you guys scratched your head at it kind of shook you for me It was Adam Scott Adam Scott missing the cut. I was like damn. I didn't see that one coming We mentioned speed that I wouldn't say that that like it's shocking shocking Justin Rose

I just felt like this. Yeah would have been okay for him. I was surprised to see him shoot 70 60 yesterday. It came back with 68 today, but that'd be a surprise to me. I'm gonna shout out to my Andy Johnson. Yeah, I knew. Andy Johnson knows me five bucks because he said that Kurt Ketayama was gonna be in the top 10. And he was a couple of battling, so. Just missed. Kegan, I wouldn't say.

I was gonna say Kegan too. He's kind of felt like a big boy park, some that he would kind of rise up for. But also I was going to go with Phil. I'll just talk about all this preptity he's been putting in. The only guy that was here last week coming in, grinding it out, then going back home, buying up lots all over as mansion already,

and Rancho Cucamonger, whatever it is, and then coming back up. I'm kind of disappointed that Phil is not around for the weekend. Phil claimed that he was waiting until the tournament was over because he had more to say, but he didn't want to expend emotional energy. And now that the tournament is over, he beat Bald out of town and did not have anything to say. The media for you left. So perhaps we'll catch up with Phil at the open championship, which I assume is when we'll see him. Although I guess they probably play in the next live event, which is a bedman's turn, maybe.

Yeah, I thought you said you're going to be missing. It's Valderama's next year. Oh, you're right. It is Valderama. Oh, yeah, I'm going to Valderama today. I just expense that. Oh, Spain. Kim. Kim Davis kind of shook me too. I thought Cam Davis was gonna play well this week. I did too, as well. But guys, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Adrian Dumont, that your Sartt continues to lead

on the corn fairy tour. Oh gosh, you're a pro. And we're looking at him for a Ryder Cup spot. And for this year. Also, as we wrap up, we are trying to not do merge related stuff, but it's worth noting they actually broke in on the telecast to report that the, uh, it's official that the, the lawsuits have been dropped between the PGA tour and live slash the PIF dropped with prejudice, which means they can't be picked back up

extreme prejudice. Um, again, we probably needed to spend a lot of time trying to unpack exactly how what all that means. It seems like a great thing for the tour that even if this merge doesn't go through, they can't pick back up on the legislation, but I haven't put in the full thought to that. And we're kind of avoiding that topic this week just because we want to focus on the golf, but something to keep an eye on. Yeah, we get into that on Sunday, maybe. Yeah, we'll say that for a later date. Can we, I'll take on put on my dick right or hat for a second

here and just say that I hope Jay is doing well. I don't know if we've said that. I don't care how bad you think Jay is job. And certainly we have criticized him plenty. I would, if this happened to Greg Norman, I would feel the same. Like, guys got family and kids. and I've only met Jay, like twice. I don't have any, like, personal connection to him, but, you know, I really hope that his

health is okay, and he gets better. Hey, man. You're here. Hey, man, did that. Yeah. It, it, it, seeing the reaction online also just helped frame a lot of the things I've felt over the last year of like, yeah, seeing people just like shit on him for having a serious health condition I was like ah okay, we're truly dealing with some of the worst pieces of shit

Imaginable on the planet and like yeah makes a lot of the last year on Twitter make a lot more sense because it's been very Confusing to a lot of us and just watching that was just like ah that's a reminder of of where things are at in this in this world unfortunately so Trying to find a video. I guess there's a video that Scotty on the range afterwards of where things are at in this world, unfortunately. So. Trying to find a video, I guess there's a video that Scotty on the range afterwards, he's throwing clubs around. Oh, that's your guy's definitely gonna win.

Yeah. Definitely. Your guy's just boy. Definitely gonna win. He's a good all-out. Yeah, he's a decent singer, so. He's a decent, well, sorry about that. Hidden drivers, I don't think I'm gonna be able to show it,

but Hidden driver drivers not the best and literally just chucking them out there. Also, if anybody wants to watch any golf tomorrow morning, because the leaders don't tee off till like seven o'clock, or six o'clock, or time tomorrow night, is watch the R&AA the women's am is on Ingrid Lynn Blad. Uh it's it's it's streaming. They're in the the quarter

finals tomorrow. You're wittling down here as we go along but some pretty good golf there from princes. So. Oh I just haven't fun out there. Come on. That's that's totally innocent. We're fine. We're totally fine. That's like a walk-off home run.

Yeah, it's good to see you. That's a lot of angry. That's a guy's nearly. Maybe you're remembering the drive. Yeah. All right, thank you, everyone, for tuning in. Thank you, Hi, noon, athletic greens, and Omni, Cody, on the ones in twos, KVV, Huffinit, around on site,

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Cheers folks. Tip your waiters on the way at TC. I'm here and we got 86 to scallops man. Yeah, can you bring a 20 so I can push a tip TC? Thank you. Push the pitch. Push the pitch TC. It's a bit pushy, it's a bit sticky.

It's gonna be the right club. Be the right club today. That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. the most, better than most.