No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 70: David Feherty

Episode Date: March 13, 2017

David Feherty joins the podcast to talk about the 6th season of his show “Feherty” on Golf Channel, what it’s like to interview Phil Mickelson, how his new role at NBC is treating him, and... The post NLU Podcast, Episode 70: David Feherty appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Got a special guest today We'll get to him got a very non-special guest at the moment Tron what's happening I thought man, I thought I was a special guy. No, even on three straight podcasts. I know I know it's good We need to do this we need to mix in we need to mix in the vibes with the with the interviews as well, so Nothing man. I'm just southbound in 1975. I drove down to Atlanta from Boston yesterday, about 16 and a half hours.

Knocked that out. The dogs dropped them off with my parents in Atlanta. And then just crossed over into the land of low cost goods and services across across the Florida state line here about five minutes ago. Are you gonna tell everyone what you're up to this week? I'm going to be who I'm gonna be on roaming roaming premises. Just losing your virginity in the media center. Yeah yeah yeah so I'm gonna be I haven't really I've been kind of coy about being in the media center so hopefully you know I mean I may have to I may have to

hire like personal security or something like that if if you know some of the some of my repeated victims are on property. Don't be surprised don't be surprised if you get warned like to behave yourself like every time I've been in there They're like oh, oh, okay, well, well just just just like be good. Okay, remember like we're watching. Okay, so yeah It's pretty entertaining But yeah, Alex is headed down. She's fine down with the baby. I'm gonna meet her in Naples. Supposed to meet her on Tuesday, but we're supposed to get like 16 inches of snow in Boston on Tuesday. So she might not be coming down till Friday or Saturday, which means I might be hanging on the Rally end all week. So but yeah, so we're gonna play Winter Park tomorrow, I think, with Sean Martin.

Try to uh... That'll be today for anybody listen to this Monday. Yeah. Monday. I think poor ass plan in the, in the pro am tomorrow too. So I'm going to follow him around, make fun of him. Of course. Uh, yeah, that's gonna be a good week.

That's good. Well, let's recap, uh, Valspar a little bit, even though neither of us barely watched any of it. You followed along on radio and I got to see the back nine basically. You tried to bury Adam Hadwin and Canada just showed all up in your mentions and he came back, battled after almost getting swallowed by the snake pit first career win. What did you think of this weekend? I mean, I love this course.

It's one of my favorites on tour. People forget on that iguana gift, getting chased by the snakes, that iguana survives. The iguana survive. The iguana survive. Now I mean, I was under the impression, we had went up until like the 12 to 13 holy wood, like he was really shaky all day,

and then he just turned him into jets. I think that he had a plot on the front line that really kind of steadied him. But yeah, I can't lay it was fantastic all day. Will Hasket on the PGA Tour radio coverage was just getting me amped in the car. Like I was rolling through like, making and water ravans, like just South Georgia, you know, nothing going on. And I'm just all juiceed up. So, um, but, uh, fiend out today, man, he played his, he played his butt off too, huh?

In a t-shirt, a guy wouldn't even be allowed in the clubhouse in that thing. Oh, really? I didn't see that. Oh, you know, you would have hated it. I heard West Bryant had some awful pants on too. He's going with the pink pants like every Sunday now. Apparently that's a thing here. Yeah. Uh, I try to be nice to him today, because, uh, some awful pants on too. He's going with the pink pants like every Sunday now. Apparently that's a thing here. I try to be nice to him today, because he's

on a pretty impressive run, man. It's like three straight turns. I think, and I threw it out there. I think the president's cup. I know nobody cares about the president's cup. I think it's in play for him. You are. I love my international team events.

I know. I know. I know. I know. I know i know i'm getting more and about the president's cup like bring that same passion you have to write a cup like i never met anybody likes anything as much as you like the writer that's fair i actually i kind of want the u.s. to lose the president's cup this year to bring it back i get needs to be needs to be lost at some point or else this thing is it's not worth playing anymore and we're not talking about the president's

cup in march that's for sure but well yeah well, yeah, well, actually, they were talking about it on the thing, they were saying how how to win pretty much like locked up a spot today. I think it's can't be that hard to make the international team cannon. I don't know. I mean, always just, Tong Chai Jai D is not walking through that door, okay? But, but yeah, and that one then then like they were saying all the halftick commercials on that they were like yeah like like prestigious or like legendary Liberty Nationals like yeah Liberty National legendary course we

really we really are just still talking about the president's cup now did they yeah what do they do to it they read they read they used it was voted like the worst course on tour like back in like 2011. What was the renovation like pretty big on that? I mean, I don't think people hated it as much as they used to. Uh, I'm not sure. It's a good question. I know Bob Cup designed it. He's like, I really, I've enjoyed most of the courses I've played from him. He is on like pumpkin, ranger, a couple of them, Oregon and then nice course in Atlanta, setting down. Um, but so he's always been pretty well regarded in my book, but I think it's just more of like

it's a landfill, you know? Yeah, I think the classic quote that everyone loves to do when there's a shitty course built on a landfill is like it was better left as a landfill. I definitely have heard that quote about Liberty National, but that should be good vibes up there. This can be a pretty good warm up for Beth Page in 2024. Yeah. Is it fair to call Patrick Cantlay, a post-hype sleeper?

Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, everybody seems like he's universally regarded too. You know, everybody on Twitter was like rooting for the guy the last couple days. So, yeah, I think for sure he was, God, he made some big ass puts today too. You know, kind of cooled off down the stretch, but from, you know, at the end of the front nine to maybe 14 or 15, he was on fire.

I think it'll be around 2020 that we actually like stop talking about the back injury and his redemption story I think I can already see it the narrative that the story is I mean it is an incredible story But like they can't show him on screen without talking about his back and about talking about the comeback But yeah the guy and I don't even dislike it He is like an as like a movie assassin on the course. He is completely emotionless Like he like almost bowed to to had to win after he like after had one made the winning putt again with a

completely straight face. It was like a Japanese bow like I have succumb to you sir. Congratulations. Completely emotionless but I don't know I kind of like it. Yeah I generally I I'm kind of out on most of those guys, but I've really anybody that can go and shoot, what do you shoot like 60 or 61 at the Traveler? 60 years back? 60 as an amateur. Yeah, I mean that's just insane. It's one of the more insane things maybe in the last 10 years of the PGA tour. Yeah, the talent is undeniable. I don't think we were expecting to come back from it quite this quickly, but man, another intriguing young name to add to the mix for what's been a pretty lit season so far.

Your boy Bryson showed out this week. He did. I tweeted earlier, I thought he was going to eject WD today. Just try to get off the course early and try to fly down the South by Southwest. The DJ Pie and a couple other people speak down there because, because Bryson's a thought leader. But yeah, you know, I mean, yeah, he played well.

I mean, it's a good course for him. I think he's in Bay Hill this week too. So, I may have to, may have to shout him up. That might be one of the guys you want to avoid down there. He did get a little swallowed up by the snake pit on Saturday. I think you were reveled in that a little bit. I did. I did. I'm surprised. He didn't like claim he's been slowly injecting himself with venom like in small doses throughout his life. Yeah, to build up an immunity to the snake pit.

All right, I think that's good for the Valspar. I want to get to our interview I did with David Ferriti. I recorded it with him yesterday, Saturday afternoon, right before he was going on air the Valspar. We do have a short clip from the episode with Phil Mickelson, part two that's airing tonight if you're listening to this on Monday. And then we get to the interview. I was told I was going to have about 30 to 40 minutes with David, and I only ended up getting about 15 and I stretch it out to 20. So I did kind of rush through a few of the questions but I wanna clarify one thing on that

that I felt really bad about afterwards because I was kind of going way too fast. We talked a bit about just the vibe on tour and some of the demons that David has faced in the past and his drinking problems. And I made the passing comment that I thought, I said, you know, the drinking problems, those days are behind you and blah, blah, blah.

And he kind of stopped me and said, that's not the way this works. Like it's something you're always battling. And I kind of felt bad about that because I've never, obviously, can't really relate having not gone through that personal experience. So I didn't want anyone listening to kind of take my,

the way I asked the question and passing. I'm probably overthinking it but I felt pretty bad about it but without further ado let's get to the recording with David Faraday. You've always thought that way very analytical. There's a lot that I process on every shot and there's a lot of detail. Do you want me to touch on it or do you really, is it, boy? Hey, tell me about it. Well, in my practice, I build a reference.

So I hit the same shot over and over building a 9.0 that goes 145 yards, let's say. Now that will vary based on temperature and altitude, which will change with time of day and whatnot, as well as wind and those effects. But one of the things people will say is I hit my I hit my wedge you know 120. Well you might hit 120 under certain conditions but in the morning ball is not going to go 120 maybe in the afternoon when it's warmer and ball heats up but it's going to go 5 to 10 yards shorter in the morning. People don't factor that in. If you get a little bit of water in between the club face and the ball people don't know it actually. If you get a little bit of water in between the club face and the ball, people don't know. It actually increases spin, causes it to go

shorter. The first cut always comes out six to eight yards dead. If the grain is into you, it's going to launch and hit lower on the face, launch lower, have more spin. If it's down grain, the club slides a little bit quicker, you'll get more out of it. If it's sitting up on Zoysia or off of a T, always goes five yards farther with each iron based on the fact that the center gravity is underneath the ball and it launches higher, a little bit less spin. All these things, I have to factor in when I look at the lie. Okay, how is the lie and how is the ball going to come out relative to my 145 nine iron. Now, that's 10 off a stock, so I have a normal swing. Right. And then I have a second swing for every iron shot. And that's, it's a little bit shorter back

swing with the same acceleration. So I have a 145 and a 155 air shot. What is the lie going to do? What's the temperature? What's the wind? How do I want the ball coming into the green? If you choke down an inch, three yards comes off of it. One degree of law, off to three yards. So if you open the face a degree, that's three yards. So if I have a reference of 145, I want to fly 142, I can choke down an inch. It'll come in a little bit lower, a little bit flatter and release. Or I can just open it up and hit a little bit of a cut. That'll be three yards, but it'll back up.

All these variables, like all process, like that, when I look at the lie and assess the situation, see what kind of grass it is. And those are the nuances that allow me to be so precise with my wedges and my my short irons and my distance controlling and that's why iron play has been such a strength for for my game is that I'm able to be precise to within a yard or two and in my practice sessions because I hit 1500 balls every month to those specific numbers. My reference is pretty on. If I hit a shot at 145 and I feel like I nailed it, it usually, it used where it goes.

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We have some really fun stuff coming with Calaway this year. I promise you that more details on that to come. But for now let's get to David Farrity. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Lang Up podcast. I'm Chris Solomon, joined today by a guy I've been following for many years. Great thrill to have him on. You know him from the golf channel from NBC and from his own show on the golf channel, David Farrity. David, how are you today, man? I'm doing great, thank you although I fainted yesterday in Minneapolis Airport. Do you want to explain that or are we just supposed to guess what happened there? Not much, I had to explain it, you know, I mean I've been losing a little weight recently

and I was hunkered down with my back against a pillar and I stood up and it's kind of I saw stars and the next thing I knew I was lying done in an airport with the blood coming out of my head You know, so there you are. That's the end of that story. Did you have any treatment? I don't think that's the end of that story. Did you have to get any treatment after that or what happened after that? No, I got a napkin and I flew to Tampa. You didn't have anyone check on you after that. No, hell no I've had so many blows to the head that really mean this is this all you've got bring it on i wasn't prepared for that but uh... i don't have a lot of time we're recording

this right before you're about to go on the air for the uh... valspar today but uh... i just want to know you you said it's been six years in the making for this film michaelson interview that aired on golf channel part one was last week did it did the interview live up to your expectation it did and more chris it was uh... it was amazing after twenty something years of following film michaelson and knowing him as a friend i really thought that i knew uh... or had a handle on how his mind worked

but not so much this lot going on in there that uh... that i didn't realize that uh... folks won't uh... or they will be absolutely gobsmacked by uh... the way that he thinks about playing golf and each individual shot is remarkable and uh... he's just uh... unique human being it was so much fun we had to do it over two episodes does it is a little bit theatrics with him i know he he seems to want to prove how smart he is every single chance

He gets I love it don't get me wrong, but is he really like that in real life as well? He really is yeah, I get this you know asked me all the time is still really like that or is it kind of an act? No, he really is like that. In fact, he's more like that than then he acts He's one of the smartest human beings i've ever met uh... the way that he thinks of things and and the analytical nature of how he goes through it uh... it would uh... defeat an m it is scientist how did you keep a straight face when you saw the leather jacket for the first time

i didn't yeah it was some sniggering yeah no question i didn't yeah you're some sniggering yeah no question what what is what got left on the cutting room floor from this interview that will never see that uh... that is your that your favorite part that you would have wish would have made it in

well i mean i'm not involved in the cutting room uh... uh... procedure i i don't uh... look at the editor and like that but for off the top my head you know we were uh... we were talking about You can be really smart or really dumb You know to play this game and and each one is an advantage, you know, so we left the really dumb ones out Well, I was gonna say that was one of my questions that we the quote I think was something to be good at golf. You have to be really smart or really dumb

I was gonna ask who is he talking about in that scenario You're not willing to give the answer? No, no, I can't do that. Yeah, yeah, because they're not dumb enough not to kick my ass I know I whenever I ask this question people their answer answer number one is usually listen, but If that is the answer number one, what's answer number two when i ask what's your group your best interview tip yep your dad right uh... when it when it comes to listen that's for sure uh... it's uh... you know try to find someone uh... something in the person you're interviewing that that you like

uh... at least that's my uh... my mo uh... on this. I don't have victims, I have guests, and I can be criticized from time to time for not asking, you know, I didn't ask President Clinton any monica-luensky questions. I don't care about that. I think it's been asked over and over, and we spend enough money and enough of our emotional well-being and trying to find out the answer to that. I'm more interested in the person and what makes them tick. I want to like them. To this date, 100 interviews coming up on that mark. I haven't interviewed anyone that afterwards I don't i don't like

you you know these guys pretty well you've been following you've been you know working on the tour for about twenty one years now if i'm counting right you know a lot of stories do you ever go over what you're gonna discuss before you ask them and ask if it's okay to bring up certain things are diver run into situation where you ask something they're like i don't want to talk about that no no we never go over anything. What I do say to them, and this is something that best of my knowledge hasn't happened.

If there's something in here that you don't like the answer to, or we'll take it out, you know, because you are a guest here. If you don't like an answer that you've given for whatever reason, we'll figure something out. I'll ask the question differently or we'll do that. But to this date, I've never had to do that. What's the most interesting thing you've learned from an interview on your golf channel show that you didn't already know about that person?

Wow. That's a big question. Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure even. I have problems remembering each interview. Part of the reason is that I don't watch the show. I've watched one show out of 100. And that was the first one with Lee Trevino. And I felt that if I was going to do it, I'd better was the first one with lead for veno and I felt that if I was going to do it I'd better watch the first one. He was really important to me and my hero growing

up my hero to this day. But it creeps me out so badly watching myself on television that I don't watch it. So, you know, I don't know what the program looks like. I know what it felt like when I was doing it. You know, so it makes it difficult for me to answer that question. Well, I can tell you from what it looks like. The interviews are great, obviously, but you also have an outstanding production crew that, you know, when there's a story that's brought up, when there's a story brought up, they cut the clips in, they cut the audio or the video in that really helps with the storytelling I think I

thought the things those are the things I don't see yeah yeah you're missing out you should really tune in your own show it's really good but I need weeks of therapy afterwards you can't believe I look that fat or signed that stupid well you you at least have the benefit of having things cut out too see like a podcast you have like a podcast, there's not really that option. Have you ever had an interview that's been especially challenging? The subject wouldn't give you much, or maybe it was an indifferent kind of personal relationship there that made an interview especially challenging? I'm just trying to kill an ant on my desk. I got it.

I'm just trying to kill an ant on my desk. I got it. Yeah. There have been some that are more challenging than others. Larry David was one of my favorite interviews, but it was, you know, challenging. It was like interview in a mirror. And so he's more paranoid and, you know, terrified than I am. And, you know, he plays that kind of a character. I didn't expect him to be that way. There are, you know, interviews that I've done that, you know, you have difficulty getting going, but they've always got going. You know, once I get, break the ice, I kind of think, and I think it's probably because, you know, I interview from a position of weakness. My life has been such a freaking disaster from time to time that when I ask someone a question

that might be personal or whatever, they look at me and I think, hey, if he's willing to admit that, maybe I should. At least I think that's the way it works. I wanted to touch on that. I know you don't have a ton of time, but you've definitely detailed your struggles with alcohol in the past and those days are behind you. I would imagine the culture on tour back then kind of promoted that lifestyle a bit more than it does today. But do you see anyone kind of dealing with the same, as you call them, demons that you dealt with? And you definitely don't have the name names. I imagine you wouldn't do that.

But do you see any current active players, PGA tour, champions tour anywhere kind of dealing with the same thing that you dealt with? I don't, to be honest with you. And obviously, I wouldn't name names even if I did. Of course. I see people in the broadcast industry that might be struggling with it.

And you know, you were saying that my you know, my struggles are in the past. They're not, I mean, they're in the present. And that's the way that it works. And no, but on tour, things are a good deal more. I mean, I started to play golf for a living 41 years ago. And things were very different. It was a different time People looked at the game differently. There wasn't nearly as much money involved. I think in a in a certain sense

It might have been more fun to play you know plan in 20 different nations and you're up with you know 70 or 80 guys on the same airplane and almost everyone in the same hotel. It was almost impossible not to be some kind of a party animal. So, these days, there's a lot more money. It's a good deal more of a business atmosphere, but also, you can't underestimate the effect that microphones and cameras have with social media and everything has a you know you're always being watched you're always being listened to you know so a lot of these kids you know can't be who they really are

and it's only when you get them in an unguarded moment you see the character come out there are a lot of characters out here still. Well you mentioned you know be on the same airplane going around a 20 different nations playing the European tour. Did you have a favorite stop in those days, either for social reasons or a golf course reasons or just a notoriety that's turning it? What was your always your favorite event to play in on the Euro tour? Wow.

Yeah, I had a few. Madrid was always a great city for me. I won there, and I think I want to say 92. I love the site of France. We had great golf courses, great tournaments, great restaurants, good fun down there. Anywhere in the United Kingdom it was always nice to play at home and in Sweden. Wonderful. One of the great links, golf courses, links, golf course areas in the world is the Western, Northwestern coast of Europe, Belgium, Holland, Sweden, where people go to Ireland and Scotland and say, oh, we love the Gulf there.

Well, go to Belgium, Holland, and Sweden too. It's just as good. And we played there for so many years, and I had some success there. It was a great time in my life, and although it led me down a path that I wish I hadn't wandered, I'm not sure that I'd change anything. You were a CBS for 19 years.

You've been with NBC now a little over a year. What's been the biggest adjustment for you going from the CBS to NBC? the ground. I'm a little more involved in the entire broadcast now because I spend most of my time in a tower. I've gone from following the leaders and making the occasional sort of pithy comment or whatever to having four or five holes of my own and being able to jump in on other people's comments and give people a hard time. It's been a breath of fresh air for me, and it feels like I've kind of expanded my role here at NBC and maybe stretch myself a little more. How much easier is it to get a grasp of what's going on in the tournament

from the booth first being out on the golf course? Oh, that's a good question. It is much easier because for one thing, I have a picture in front of me. I have a monitor. In fact, at NBC, excuse me, I have five monitors, all the holes that I'm going to do. I've got real-time images of what's going on that whole and who it's happening to. So, it's much more detailed and in the moment picture of what's going on. In your days out on the course, what was the biggest blunder you ever made, saying accidentally

kicking a ball or have you ever gotten scolded by a player for talking or could they hear you? I remember reading a putt. It was Sergio Garcia at Bella Hala and this is oh geez, I'm just got to be 15 years ago. And the wind was in the wrong direction, you know, and I read it inside right. Unfortunately, he had read it inside right as well. But, you know, he turned around and looked, I was probably 40 yards away and he said really uh... i have uh... i've not stood on a ball or kicked it but uh...

you know i've uh... been in the wrong place at the wrong time especially with tiger uh... when tiger first came out may i'd been a pro for twenty something years i knew where to stand on a golf course and not being the way and then you know tiger showed up and all of sudden, I was in the way a couple of times because when I thought he was gonna chip out, he was gonna hit it on the same line,

but, you know, trying to hit it on the green, and, you know, there were a couple of awkward moments there as well. Go transitioning that with the Tiger comment. You said, about 10 years ago, you made a comment once where you said, if Tiger quit playing tomorrow tomorrow tens of thousands of people would lose their jobs How do you view I definitely don't think you're wrong? I just curious how how do you view that comment now as we're kind of maybe seemingly entering the post tiger era? Do you feel the same way about the future of the game?

Well, I don't feel the same way because it You know the way tiger has disappeared from the game has been a gradual thing and uh... as he is gradually sort of faded away from the game that we've had these amazing youngsters of jason day rory mackilroy jordan speed you know dustin johnson has been coming up ricky filer you know and and not one of them, singly, can fill that gap. And actually, if you add them all together, they still can't.

No one makes the needle move like Tiger Woods. My children aren't going to see the likes of that, and their children probably won't see the likes of Tiger Woods again. So it's not like all of a sudden vanished and the rug was pulled out from underneath us. We've had fantastic golfers come up in the interim golfers that grew up with tiger woods and, you know, as their role model, as what was possible, this is what we can do. And while they may not be dominant, you know, the way he was and nobody ever will, they really are remarkable to watch.

So it's a different time, that's all. In your playing career, I think you tend to like to make jokes at your own expense about your playing career. And as I was growing up as a kid, I had never really researched you, and I just always had assumed that you weren't much of a player. I think you vastly undersell how often you won, how competitive of a player you were.

You were on the 91 Ryder Cup team. How much has the Ryder Cup changed since that year? Well, I think that was one of the years that really changed it dramatically. It was the year of the Gulf War and there was tremendous pro-American sentiment in the crowd. And we had the European crowd there that were with the Ole, Ole, Ole, Ole, which was just the most mindless anthem the world has ever heard. I love the lyric.

But that sort of part is then feeling off behind the ropes. That was for sure. But on the golf course it's always been entirely different. The players, they adore the writer cup. There's something so special about it. This is one that caught the attention of the writer cup. There's something so special about it. And this is one that caught the attention of the American public. It came down to the last putt and the last grain in the last match with Bernhard Langer and Hail Irwin. And I think it really sort of teed up the writer cup for the next 20 or 25 years to this point

where it's arguably the most important golf event of every two years. It's certainly the most watchable and the most magnetic. It's about players going out there and playing for the reason that they started playing the golf. They just love the game. And you can't make the comparison between that and war, but when kids go to fight for the United States, it's not the United States that's in their mind. It's the guy to the right and the guy to the left of them.

And that's the writer cup as well. You really care about what your teammates think. And it's really the only opportunity of the year to feel that lot way because it's your ball, it's your game and it's a selfish game other than this one particular moment. Very good. I'll let you out here on two questions that I feel like I have to get to. I like this one a lot. Let's say it's the final show of Fairety Ever and the guest on the show is you.

You have to pick someone to host you on your show as you're going away. Who do you choose to host? Yikes, what a question. Who would I pick to interview me? And don't just pick the least the person that would be least upset with you. No, no, it might be Gary McCord, because he knows more about me than any person alive. I mean, I can't pick my wife. That would be just embarrassing. Yeah, I would say McCord. Yeah, the sick bastard. I'll tune into that one. All right. Last one. I know this is tough to put you on this spot, but I've told you have a lot of good Monty stories. What's your favorite go-to call and mug gum rey story? Oh wow. You know I'm not sure I can tell much of the go-to once there was a...

This is an uncensored podcast. You're welcome to tell anything you want. Yeah I know I understand. I was playing with them and mdred one uh... one year this is back in the middle nineties early nineties and uh... every time he was he was made a person and and and and mdred uh... the real club deported here or only the members were allowed into watch the tournament the very uh... i don't know, Posh Golf Club that was members of the parliament and the royalty and all sorts of things.

So there was only maybe, you know, 2,500 people on the golf course at any given time. And a lot of them, you know, were into Polo and things that, you know, the golf club had all sorts of things. The golf course was just, you know, one of the apps that one of the apps that they had there. So there were a lot of people out there that didn't really understand golf. And Monty, who could hear a butterfly fart from 200 yards, was up in the crowd, given them a hard time, every time anyone said anything or whatever, he was just being Monty. And every time he did it, I would take a golf ball from his bag

and give it to whatever child or person, you know, that he'd been upset with. And we get on the 12th hole, and Monty said to his County Alistair, he says, give me another ball. And Alistair says, we don't have any. He says, no, we do. I put a dozen in there on myself before we went out and I had to put my hand there and I said,

Monday, I'm sorry, you know, every time you've been shitty to someone, I've been given them a one of your buff balls. And he looks at me and he says, I couldn't have been that shitty. And Alistair too, his eternal credit looks at Monday and said, yeah, you pretty much won. How did he finish around? Yeah, well, we played the same type of golf balls, so I was able to land them a couple, you know, wow, that's fantastic. All right, we'll let you out of there on that. I took up more of your time than I was promised.

So best of luck with the weekend at the Valspar and best of luck with the show. I'm looking forward to part two with Phil and the rest of the season as well. David, thank you so much for your time. All right, Chris, thank you. You bet. All right, Tron, let's talk about Bay Hill this week. Everyone is pounding a narrative into the ground about the field, the amount of players that are skipping the event. Do you have any thought on that? Are people on the right path with that? Do you dislike it? Do you have any thoughts?

To be honest, I don't really know. I mean, I know speed isn't playing, but I don't, he's ever played it. Who else is, I know JT skipping. Who else is skipping? Phil DJ. I think, I mean, it's just kind of, I don't know, maybe 10 of the top 25 players or something are playing in the event. I think I saw it's just kind of a lot I don't know maybe 10 of the top 25 players or something are playing in the event

I think I saw that tweeted out but What I'm kind of getting at is the way the schedule sets up this year. I was just saying so it's so tough It's especially with the WGC in Mexico and then And then match plays is next week correct Yes, it is and then Houston and then the Masters, right? Am I missing one? I think that's right. I think that's right.

I just don't get why. I've never been one to criticize a player for their scheduling unless you're like a guy that skips the entire West Coast swing or something kind of silly like that. I don't like culture. Yeah. A couple of years ago.

ZJ went Hawaii for like six weeks. And then they shoved those commercials. That are. I teed you up for that one. I was not intentional. I probably was. But I don't understand the armchair critique. I understand this is. There's a lot of emotion tied to this event

You know especially with Arnie passing away last year, but I just don't I don't understand holding players to a certain Expectation that they have to be playing in particular events I agree with that. I mean, I think you know, it's a nice gesture if you want to go out of your way to play in this this year But I think just with the Mexico thing and then, you know, I mean, Honda's almost become such a big tournament too, that, you know, it's just tough. I mean, there's not a good week to take off at this point, right? You know, especially with how you want to set yourself up to the majors, some of these guys like to play two or three weeks going into the major.

You know, it kind of, you know, I mean, it's just a matter of personal preference. But, you know, for me, it comes down to like, you know, like I like to go, I like to go to the bathroom after lunch, after my lunch break. Like, like people aren't criticizing me for that. You know what I mean? Where are you going? It's like a similar story. Where are you going with this one?

I mean, they have to, I don't know how easy this is to do. Probably not easy, but they have to flip Mexico and Honda. Like, they have to, there's no reason to go California. Florida, Mexico, Florida, because yeah, there's, you can't play all four of those events and then like for somebody like speed he's gonna play in Texas, he's gonna play the match play and he's gonna play in Mexico, he skipped Valsbar this week and it's of course he's won on in the last two years, like you can't these guys can't play every event, it's

not personal, I don't understand. It bothers me because it's dominating narrative for this week, I feel like, and people are saying this is kind of tarnished, it's kind of spitting on Arnie's grave, or it's disrespectful. I'm like, you guys are the ones that are making this, the story of the week, the story should be the golf tournament,

and this great event that he built, and we should just sit around and enjoy it. I really don't understand it. Yeah I think you know come Wednesday Thursday when they start playing and won't be the dominant narrative but until then it's kind of like nobody nobody has a whole lot to talk about. You know they'll be plenty of plenty of tributes and stuff to our'm sure. So my big question is, what's going to happen? Like, how's the schedule going to work when the players shifts back to March, like they're

saying? Is it for real going to happen, or is that only going to be Olympic years? Oh, I don't know. I, I, I, I, I had no other Olympic years thing. I was just, I was just assuming because I was thinking that like that course always plays better in March. It's a little bit cooler and you got some wind and all that. It's got a few more teeth in it.

So I thought that was kind of the overriding thing. And then trying to move the PGA to May. That's what I thought. That's why I thought they were moving the PGA to May for Olympics years when that would be in August. But I don't know. I could see that being 2020 being the first year they do that, if they are gonna make this change.

But I don't know. I think you have to like move and either remove an event from this schedule or move it to an entirely different part of the year. I don't know what, I have no idea what you squeeze out. Yeah, it's just weird, because this is like the Southern, the Southern swing is kind of the one that's got more or less pigeon hold into everything else. Right.

You know with New Orleans is all chopped up from the rest of it. There's no more. You know, there's no more bell south classic in Atlanta. You know, but it's just the bell sparse actually a pretty new tournament, you know. And I think they've got some pretty solid backing from the big paint lobbies. What up Kurt Schilling? What's the host? But yeah, I mean, I think, you know, there's like something's got to give, right? Why don't we take one of the WGCs?

How long is Mexico signed on for? Probably a few. I mean, I think I would think a few years that it have to be time for like three or four years I would think just to make it worth You know doing that what I'm on the opinion that they should move all the WGC's around well I was gonna say move one of them to a different part of the year and take it to Canada I mean yeah, you you can't play it in the South later in the summer like I'm that's what I'm thinking you can't play in Florida in July or August So if you're gonna you got it you got it if you're gonna squeeze one of those events out of the spring It's got to be one of the WGC's. I don't know what those contracts are like but

If you move that north you can play golf in Canada and July and August to Canada Canadian Australia to Australia to Australia needs another big event. No one's gonna go there in a little season. No, but like you do it kind of like December or January before Hawaii and all that, you know, kind of get things kicked off with that. You know, because like, I don't know, I just, I love watching the,

I'll show you an open and then the, like when they had the one down at Royal Melbourne, the World Cup down there. I mean, that's that's like appointment meetings for me That's so cool So when they need to move this China and they know and they won't I'm sure for financial reasons But nobody watches nobody goes to that and nobody watches that one When's the one in Korea this year? Is that this year? Or is it next year? I don't know. Maybe like silly season, too. Or like reach around schedule or whatever.

But I don't know. I don't know. I really should know more about that before I speak on it. Are we roasting you this week? I don't know. Are we doing you or me? That's I don't care. I don't care.

I mean, do we want to take a week off and just load up on swings from the UK here in a couple of weeks or or we can go for it i don't care well i mean people are going to accuse me of of taking a lesson a couple weeks ago to escape the wrath of the twitter of the twitter audio of the uh... you know the uh... masses with pitch forks you know coming after me but uh... but yeah i, I think let's definitely do one this week.

I'm happy to do mine. Probably be a good thing, being on site to get a little bit of commentary from people there, too. There you go. All right, let's do that. Anything else we miss from this week? Dude, Bay Hill, I still can't wrap my head around the fact that Matt every wanted to turn it back to that years, right?

Potential podcast guest this week. I might know I might be like that's just like I Mean I've always liked watching him and he's always kind of silent There needs to be more Matt every is in Spencer Levine's guys like that on tour, kind of real dudes. But yeah, I just can't wrap my head around that. It's so hard to repeat at any tournament, much less pretty good field normally at Bay Hill,

and pretty tough. I feel like there's a lot of number like big numbers at bayhil always baba like it's so much fun to watch this like to keep tabs on this time and on shot tracker because there's a there's so many like it's like a geometry dream

like with all. With all the forced carries and cut-offs over dog legs over water. But yeah, there's a lot of orange and brown out there on the scorecards. A lot of chance for the mushroom cloud graphic on the scorecards this week. Look at it. I love every one. I know we haven't. I loved every's quote after he won for the second time. It was something like, I think he's one of the second most times behind Tiger saying,

yeah, I told Tiger, I'd hold it down for him until he came back. All right, Pete. But, by the way, Tiger, I kind of missed that. He kind of flew under the radar. He officially withdrew from the tournament. And I was like, that was necessary. Like you had to actually announce something. I was just thinking that too. I was like, he announced I was like,

oh, oh, yeah, yeah, I forgot that you were okay. Yeah, yeah, oh, oh, better, better write up a post about this, because I guess he's announcing he's not coming back. Yeah, it's getting, all right. I guess that makes it official, man, I'm really disappointed. Take him off the board. back uh... i guess i think that's official really disappointed take them off the board

uh... it's not i mean you know he's not playing the masters right we don't need to discuss this uh... i don't know i mean i wouldn't put it past him you know i mean member of one year i know that at a gust of, you know, I mean, the dude played the USO but on a broken leg.

Like, this is different. Yeah, I mean, I could see him go into that Canadian doctor, Dr. Galea, and spin in some blood, and doing, you know, doing that sort of stuff, and pump him full of corduosone, and put him back together for four days, and he's got the rest of the year to, uh, you know, kind of recover. Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't see it, man. I hope I'm wrong. I think it'd be cool, but I don't see, even if you showed up, I can't see him making it to the weekend. But now we would have said the same thing in 2015 when he was in the third to last group. But no, I'm not getting, we're going to do the circus.

We'll do the big thing where we talk about it. Yeah, it really doesn't matter. The McRib, Roderick McRib is winning Masters this year. So, do you want to say it for a second time, how many majors you have in winning this year? He's winning three. He's winning three major. Okay, I think the McRib injury was the best thing that could have happened to him.

He's going to be so fresh. Came out, dig in down in Mexico. I think he's going to just kill it at Aaron Hills. And then Sergio and Spieth are going to share a birthday. They're going to share the title there. And then Rory's going to win by like 11 shots at Quill Hollow. Everyone's going to pick him at Quill Hollow, right? Yeah, I mean, I have to. Yeah, you know, so what is you had you we talked a little bit about you weren't too thrilled

with JT's antics in Mexico. Did we talk about that last week? I don't remember. I think we did. Yeah, I think we did. And then I got a couple of messages that he was kind of just acting a fool this week too. Yeah, he wasn't pleased this week. He wasn't too pleased.

But yeah, I'm fine with that. I'm all for it. I mean, I heard Spencer Levine like tossed one of those like you know trash can things like into the woods I'm all so lucky like I'm off. Yeah, like I'm all poor. That's like yeah, because he shot like he played real well and they won like 68 or like 67 or 68 first round and then just ejected on Friday and I heard he was relatively displeased during the round.

But yeah, I mean, Jay-C, I'm fine with acting a fool. It's just a matter of, I feel like he's all burned out, right? Yeah, four straight weeks and I think he admitted that. I was surprised he played this week after playing with three previous, but I think he knew he was going to play Bay Hill. That's why he'd probably added this. Hey, how about your boy SSP Chalraja? The battleship.

The battleship. Big win at the hero Indian Open by like 7 I think you want it. I got a bunch of messages. I think he laid up with like two wedges or something on the 18th hole. Yeah, so I made Bowie on 18 but yeah that course was just so Mickey Mouse. I mean I was texting with a player and he was just like, yeah, man, really the only thing that was missing was a clown's mouth on the 18th hole. Because it was just like Gary Player was just in a mood

when he designed that or when his associates designed it. But yeah, I mean just think. You could have clung out. Is Boba done? Like, like Yeah, yeah. Is Baba done? Like, like, done done? Is he done? Yeah, is Baba done. I wanted to clear him done.

I really want to. Oh my gosh. He's playing with putt putt balls. This should be a bigger story. Like, why? He hasn't made a cut yet. This was my thing a couple of years ago, where like, when Baba, like, you knew his puttter was going to get shaky.

You were on this. You said this along. Yeah, it's like, this is going to be so much fun to watch him, just basically get the yips and basically lose his marbles over not being able to putt. But he's what, like 39 now? Something like that, yeah, something around that. And I mean, I don't think he's had injuries or anything,

but I can't see him being the kind of guy that plays really well into his late 40s. The guy's not exactly a... A mental warrior. Well, he's not exactly a workout warrior either. No. All right, so let me ask you this. I think I misunderstood this.

So if I told you somebody was getting paid a million dollars a year to play a certain kind of golf ball, was that sound like somebody like at Bubba's caliber play, is that seemed like a lot of money to you or not a lot? If it was like titleist or cowboy playing like paying me to play a reputable ball, or like a ball that is kind of recognized as the industry standard. Then yeah, that would sound in the ballpark to me, but if somebody was asking me to play pink and neon green golf balls,

like no, like give me five million, like I'm a two-time major winner. Right, because I've already got one million, I've already got one point two million. That seemed like pennies to me for, I think, quite legitimately sacrifice strokes off of your game to give up that for not that much money just seemed absolutely crazy to me. Do you think, Bob, I mean, I could see him just straight up retired. It may be like being like semi like semi retired, like going to like

Steve Stricker style thing and then just going and hanging out at like his minor league baseball stadium with the candy shop and stuff. Like six months ago he was like the seventh ranked player in the world and now we're talking about him retiring. I'm trying to see what he's right now. He's like this 16th ranked player in the world. And you think he's gonna retire? Oh, I mean, kind of, like one was last time he did anything, like Riviera last year. He finished, I think I looked this up. He finished tie for second after,

he finished second in the WGC right after Riviera last year. And since then, he's like had one top 10 that was in China shortly after that. The shins in international. That was in April or something. Yeah, after the Masters. And since then, he had, he got tied for 10th to the Tor championship, 30 person field. That's it. It still blows my mind that he plays this

in that in those China events well apparently the guy like freaked out in Paris he's doing all he can to make sure he's not going to back to Paris for the Ryder Cup team next year oh yeah actually I might start rooting for him just so just so he goes back to the big tower. So All right, anything else we missed? My boy JT Poston. I didn't see what he did on the last few holes today, but another solid week. Yeah, seriously. He shaded him coming on the pod. Apologize for the audio. Next pod, well, that'll be sorted. That's the trap draw.

That's the trap draw. We got a few coming in. Yeah, you guys, make sure you're subscribed and following that as well. For people that say we don't put enough podcasts out, we do have a second one. And there's better be more of these. Cut yourself, cut out your work and then do it. Let's see some more trap draws. I'm excited to see what you guys got. Okay. Yeah, it's it's your favorite podcast favorite podcast All right, Tron Let you go and then you got a drive ahead of you. Yeah, I'm just just you know

Getting past people people hanging out in the left lane man. Not good. Not good It's mid-not good, and I've got a lot of editing to do tonight. So we'll get this up and post it from Monday. Thank you again to David Faraday for taking the time and coming on. That was awesome. Great thrill. This is a guy I've wanted to talk to you for a long time. I love doing again with him in person sometime and just do story time. I'd love some more time with him. But I think you guys are like like what we had. So, Tron, safe travels man. Thanks buddy. Thanks, Solid. Cheers. like what we had so. Tron, safe travels man, thanks buddy. Thanks solid. Cheers. I got in, it is better than most, better than most!