No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 702: KPMG Women's PGA Friday Live Show

Episode Date: June 24, 2023

We're halfway through the KPMG Women's PGA at Baltusrol. We check in on a stacked leaderboard, a difficult golf course, Leona Maguire, Minjee Lee, Nelly Korda, more names that missed the cut, the disappointment from Peacock, and a lot more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah! That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome into the No-Lang-Up podcast. My name is Randy Joining me colleagues will go around the horn starting on top of me if you're watching live Mr. Solomon Chris Solomon. Hello, Sally. How are you today? Happy Friday night.

Reds are down five, nothing. But it's only the second inning that a long ways to go here. Like this golf tournament. That's so much baseball game to go. So early in this. TC, how are you tonight, sir? Your dog has just, has been a menace leading up to going live.

What's the report on peppers? He's sitting right now. He's sitting laying now. He's sitting laying down behind me. I'm just reviewing the models for the weekend. They're not in agreement for Baltic role. It could be drenched city again tomorrow. And also, Mr. Cody McBride, Cody, I have to imagine you have at least one eye on what's going on in Russia, supposedly this evening. Of course, been monitoring it all day big. And we have crazy storms today here in Dallas.

It's just been a lot going on, but happy to be here with you buddy. Yeah, yeah, let's have some fun tonight boys. We thank everybody for tuning in live. Hello to everyone. And of course, everybody listening on the podcast. If this is Saturday morning, it's a wonderful weekend of golf ahead of us. The women's second major. Let's start here, boys. Let's go around the horns.

All right. I'll kick it to you. Who won the day? What's the big takeaway? We can even extend that to Thursday. If you want to say who won the first two days? I got to say, I mean, it's the name of the top leaderboard. My pick not to win. I've been floored a dangerously close last week with Rory at LACC. I picked Leonna McGuire to not win. Her major championship record, but a little bit spotty to this point.

I think it's fair to say. And she shoots 69-68 to lead the golf tournament heading into the weekend. And looking really good doing it. It doesn't seem like it's very fluke. He just absolutely stiff in the hybrids. And I have a rooting rooting, I don't care if I get that one wrong. I have a rooting interest in Leona already, not just to please the Irish, but I will definitely be, definitely be rooting for her this weekend.

Yeah, yeah. Strong, strong follow up to her win last week. T, anything different? I mean, tough to argue with Leona. Who's your winner? Yeah, tough to argue with that. You could possibly nominate Minji up there as well for, you know, climbing up low round of the day as of now. Tie with Mel Reed on that front. I got pepper breathing in my side here. You know what?

Upset though. The winner of the day is anybody who who wants to shit on NBC and people. The cock. Not even like, like, like, not trying. Can I give a shout out to one of a goat tweet we got tonight from at Yinka double there said the cock does not care whether the women finish. As the cock went off the air before the cut line actually happened on a paid subscription streaming service that didn't need to get to another programming. What I just pointed the contracts on this one guys. It's so bad. I mean, it's like, if you're going to cover golf, cover golf and have some pride.

I know it costs money, but like, you know, the other thing that costs money is like pissing people off and turning fans away and like shrinking the game. That also costs money too. Holding it hostage. They're holding the game hostage at this point. There's nothing else we can do about it.

They literally couldn't watch the golf finish. That's fucking sick. It's solid. I do think that might be a former George Washington stand out big man, Yinka Dare, Yinka double Dare. That's on that one. Okay, that one's on me. We'll allow that one. Code man, who won the first two days for you? Probably the Baldest Roles new sub-air system that they have out there just trying to suck all the moisture possible out of those greens. Uh, you could hear it buzzing the entire

time. And you know, I still have a little, uh, I'm like PTSD from last week and all the audible noises that I picked up. Once again, thank you to, uh, this fine station. But, you know, honestly, I think this course, the way it's set up, the conditions, it truly is just like separating the field like before they even tee off and they're like, okay, you're prepared, you have the mental, you know, fortitude to stand up and actually compete in these versus everybody else who's just like injected themselves. So I'll say overall the conditions so far. Yeah, for, you know, I'm very excited about the leaderboard. And we're going to get into that. And I think with that, though, number of big names that have missed

the cut, played themselves out of it, which we will also touch upon. I have one more candidate. This is late breaking across the wire. I believe she's currently playing the par five. I did an adjacent. I know our young currently playing the par five. I didn't want to jinx her. I know. I know our young hitter working on a bogey. He's running around Lauren Coglin. If she can birdie the last, she'll move up into a tie for eighth at one under par going into the weekend. So I hope I am not jinxing her, but man, she's got a look at Bogey for 66, which would be the round of the day, and certainly would receive my vote for winner of the day.

Many people are saying big that she is potentially not a horse for course, but a potential monster for sponsor. I mean, a lot of people have been saying that out there. I mean, she finished, what, T16 last year made a huge $114,000 paycheck in this event last year, moves to a different location and is still balling out. Many people are saying this online. Now, I know what you were saying earlier. Okay, it makes sense.

And I might agree with you. I like that. I'm trying to get the first sponsor. Max is the original one. Wells Fargo, he won the Wells Fargo in two different locations. He's a monster for sponsors. So it's anyone that follows an event around to any different golf course and continues to play well. Speaking of sponsor. Do we have one? TC we do. You just throw them up. I'm at the rim. I'm going to slam them down. We want to thank

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to find a fitter or a fitting event near you and go get it taken care of in person. So thank, thank Tidal S for being a consistent, great sponsor for everything we do. Yeah, let's start here. Leonna McGuire, you know, I was, I was already to kind of talk about the, the tie at four under. And then Leonna finishes late with a birdie to get in the house at five under solo lead. Sala, you said 69 68.

I think this is, this is what we've all been waiting for. For years, it feels like, right? She, Leona, really, really decorated amateur player has been highly thought of, had a tremendous Soulheim Cup a couple years ago in Toledo at Inverness. And I think everybody was waiting for, well, we need to win on the LPGA tour. She's done that twice now.

And now the next step is really contend and hopefully knock off a major. And she looks to be on her way to doing that. Yeah, I think it's, I'm all in. If I made it, I decided her just a little bit. She had two top 10s in majors last year. But I mean, it was a T8 at the US women's open T4 at the women's British open last year. But you know, it's a T8 at the US women's open T4 at the women's British Open last year. But you know, it's, it's, it's not big.

I mean, she's got three top 10s and 22 career starts in majors. And I, I'd like to think she's capable of more than that. So, you know, maybe not quite can't lay level of disappointment in the majors yet. T.C., I'll take the words out of your mouth. But it's, it's on my radar. It's like, hey, what, come on. It's time to go do something and she's doing it right now. She's hitting it so close.

It's crazy. Like her feet of putts made, I'm concerned about her feet of putts made. It's not long enough. Yeah. It's a good sign. That's where you, the sustainability models would love this right now. See, if we had any of the women's game. And that's the, yeah.

That's, we got a little bit this week, a little bit better than usual, but yeah, it's, we got a long way to go. I know, just to reinforce the point folks, you know, like think about watching any men's major, certainly any men's week to week PJ tour event and just the breadth and depth of stats that are available. And now take those all away and try to figure out

like, oh, who's actually good at what? Just by going off like their scorecard and the I test. They're at the I test, which we do love the I test. But it just leaves us swimming. We're just blind. We're kind of walking around every tournament. The lights are off. We don't really know exactly what's going on performance-wise.

So KPMG's trying to get better. They're doing the KPMG performance insights, which kind of track yearly stats. Some of those stats though are reliant upon the human eye and caddies, and it's just upon the human eye and caddies and it's just not the same as having shot link and radar data. So yeah, for a little light on stats, that's the reason why as far as the eye test goes, though, TC, you're exactly right. She's, she's hitting the ball great. She's really not putting a bad step forward.

Today she made what, six, five birdies, two bogies. I mean, just solid, solid, solid. Cody, do you expect, is there reason, let me frame it this way, is there any reason not to expect this to continue over the weekend? Eventually, a little bit of fatigue, is going to catch in just based off for when busy, busy week, last week,

that obviously carried over a little bit, change of travel schedules, everything getting into ball to straw. But, man, as close as she's hidden it, she keeps rolling the rock. I mean, I don't know. Maybe I get, I don't know if like the conditions are helping somebody like her or help or or making it worse, but she has a lot of really good momentum going on right now. You know, the last she missed the cut at the L.A. championship at Wilshire. She took or excuse me took founders off, which was a strange decision at the time. T three in match play. She should have been in that championship match. Came back, played in the Mizzouho T seven there, then took the other Jersey course off and then came

back last week with a win. Like, form wise, she's absolutely rounding into it. It's just another one of those things. Like, how long is momentum going to carry you before like fatigue actually sets in? That's an interesting, yeah. Obviously, I don't know the answer to that. It would seem like the conditions though suit her. I mean, I'm gonna be very stereotypical of like Irish people, but right? Like little right.

She could have been these conditions. Exactly. Exactly. I mean, I do have to be concerned a little bit. I'll take the word try to out of Sally's mouth. She's 28. You know, she's not, she's not Ludwig. She's 28, you know, she's not, she's not Ludwig. She's not a screen. Is that old T.C.? All right. I mean, Sally, Sally is saying 23 is old. Lynn Gran at 24 is old. So 28 is, is ancient by Sally standards. What a bad guy. You've created the Lynn Gran is old thing.

Nobody said, oh, damn, worried about that. That is all I'm putting that one on you. You were just trying to get ahead of it. I'm putting that on TC. TC is the one calling Lynn Grant old. He knew you were coming. Anything else you we need to hit on with Leon or can we start? It's not officially down the leaderboard with TC yet, but should we move on from Leon at least? How about you? I think I read Mel. Yeah.

Mel reads sitting 400 par shoot 67 today. That was the Nazi that one coming. That's some pretty serious golf and some serious conditions. I know. And she's another one that strikes me as when I think of Mel Reed, right? I think of Grindr, you know, I would think she would play better on a difficult setup if she, you know, is on form and she proved that. Yeah, you're exactly right. 67 finds herself one back is on a medical this year, you know, coming off a pretty disastrous because of injuries 2022. I don't know. She feels a little, it's going to be tough for me to trust it for two more days. But curious if you guys feel differently. I mean, you want to talk about somebody who's like a fighter who like will not give up relentlessly continuing to just dig herself out of every situation.

Like that's that's Mel. Like it just feels like like you give the girl an opportunity and she's not going to let it slip away. It's I hope we get I mean, Mel and Leona were the dynamite soul I'm comparing it at Inverness. They were incredible. They were so much fun to watch. And they're very, very different personalities. And I'm, I hope we get a, I hope we get a duel between those two this weekend. That will be very fun. I think there's some, there's some horses lurking. And you know what? I want to, I want to give a shout out to Saline. Is it Saline Borrier? Borger. Borger. Borger. Borger. Yeah. I think our guy Graham been really enjoyed saying that. He needs a more of a challenge than that. Borger is too easy for him. She

almost ace the whole coming down the stretch there, which like wildly, wildly good shot into 16 to 14, part of three like, whoa. She had a great quote yesterday about her caddy. She took a club caddy. She said a paraphrasing here, but you know, all I really want is for somebody to carry the bag and he's doing a really good job at the which I enjoyed. So yeah, just quietly going out of business, 69, 69, 400 par, T2. And I think for anybody that's not really familiar with that name, that's for good reason.

This is her rookie year. She is an Epson Tour graduate. She won one time on the Epson Tour last year, finished six in their season long points race, earned her graduate. She won one time on the Epson tour last year, finished six in their season long points race, earned her card that way. And has had some decent results this year. I don't really know her prior to just kind of seeing her name pop up on leaderboards.

And it's really, I've been impressed. Like she looks comfortable. She looks like she puts a nice move on the ball. Wales on it hits. Yeah. Yeah. That's a little different. There's not much there that I don't like. I'm I'm very curious to see how she handles the weekend because this is obviously uncharted territory for her. She's never made a cut in a major before. She did play Chevron earlier this year, but missed the cut. So very, very curious how she comes out, either in the last group tomorrow

or the penultimate group tomorrow. Yeah, she's the defending champ of the Tuscaloosa Toyota Classic. It's her only professional win prior to the Norwegian National Golf Championship in 2020. Which I do, I do remember, I think the data golf boys, we're saying the Toyota, the Tuscaloosa Toyota Classic was a course fit this week with Boltz's RAW.

I gotta give them props. Something all, I think from a set up perspective, I think part of the reason, like, it's kind of context for this leaderboard is the setup's been good. I've been very critical of Kerry Hague in the past of both at congressional last year, but just more broadly of, like, he gets a lot of, like, undo credit for just staying out of the way

in men's majors and like letting the USGA mess stuff up over the last decade or two and you know just kind of by being the quiet guy under the radar, he gets you know slurped. And I think this has been a really good setup. I'll say that. And I think Baltersrall looks good. There's a lot of variety out there. They're mixing T boxes up. I think it I think they've done a good job of's a lot of variety out there. They're mixing T-boxes up. I think

it I think they've done a good job of identifying like who's playing good golf so far. I agree with you. I I sent that note across earlier this week. It I think the highest compliment I can pay a major is it like it looks proper and and the course, it just feels like, okay, this is a major venue. I agree everything about the setup TC, the scores are where I like them for a tournament. You know, anything under par is a really, really good day. Yeah. Cody, you had a good bit of experience with Baltic Rol prior to this week. Has it kind of lived up to things for you? Yeah. And I don't know why you keep throwing that on me. You were also there. Big toe. You went back twice. Sensing. I want to say this. Well, that's true. So I haven't played

there twice. Beautiful rooms up above. And you applied for membership, I think. Me in the 2000 other members. Yeah. When you brought up the local caddy thing, I don't know if you remember this big, but when you're there, we had local caddies, of course, my caddy was an old Vietnam, but he called me a big old sissy the entire day. I think I ended up shooting 70, which I was like pumped about. And man, he was writing me the entire time, but he could read this shit out of these greens. I was so impressed with him.

And that's the first thing I thought about this week. Of course, it like these women hardly ever see you. It's how much time they're actually putting in with local caddies, because these guys truly know what they're going on. And obviously, they have no issues given shit back and forth. But I think it's been awesome.

The weather feels exactly the same conditions that you and I played in a big. I don't know if you remember that. I was going to say that. Yeah. It feels like the same conditions that you and I played in a big. I don't know if you remember that. I was going to say that. Yeah. It feels like the same conditions that big text Jimmy Walker wanted. Yeah, for sure. It didn't like you really didn't take your waterproof soft the entire time.

The difference now is that they've drastically improved their drainage. They have so much money invested in the sub-air system on the lower course and make it so like, yeah, it's super thick rough, but you're not seeing like crazy like mud balls or any weirdness going on out there. So I thought it's showing it's showing pretty good. There's there's so much teeth in that course that it's a big course. Like, you know, they're playing it from 66 hundred 66 50, but that's a long fucking way. And also, we'll we'll eat you up really, really quick as soon as like you get out of the fairway. This is going to sound backwards from a lot of the ways I evaluate men's golf courses,

but I was a little worried of it being too wide just because I mean the women just hit it on a string like what's the challenge off the tee? And on a course of this scale does it really fit the challenge? And I've seen a lot of balls in fairway bunkers. I've seen a lot of balls in the rough off the tee running into the fairways are running firm enough that like a less than perfect shot shape that's going the wrong way on some of these dog legs is going to end up in some trouble. It seems it seems really proper so far, tough, proper and it weeded out some really good players.

I mean, you know, I feel like we're kind of at the halfway point of the chevron too. Randy, you were saying I'm thrilled with this leaderboard. I'm looking at the names of Mr. Cut and I'm like, damn, like this is, there's a lot of, a lot of big names that shot some pretty damn high scores this week. Yeah. Well, let's, I, we will get there. I promise. Yeah, let's see.

Yeah. She is in the house at 67. Hell yeah. Okay. L season was 67, even par total T 16 Helber rounds that round of the day tied for tied for you I have to think I didn't see Mel's maybe the only bogey free round today

I'm not sure if there were other bogey free rounds now made a bogey I'll have a bogey yeah so Impressive take that Randy do Bogey. Yeah. So, Impressive. Take that, Randy. Do better research. Impressive, impressive stuff. No, I wanted to, Cody, you mentioned the greens,

and I think that's one thing that I have seen playing out is, they've made players look bad at times. Yeah. They've been a number of three putts that are like, whoa, whoa. that looks ugly. But I think TV doesn't quite do it justice. How much slopes and ripples and yes, you know, the commentators Morgan's been doing a good job and some of the other analysts just talking about, you know, they're just little

ripples and waves in these greens. And I think that's gets a little washed out on TV. But you can tell they're there because, uh, saw that you said that one rose putt. I think it was on six, maybe five. Uh, it just looked awful. And it's like, ooh, that wasn't close. And, and Jin Young co three putted three of her last 11 holes today. Um, you want to talk about three puts. I know we're going to get to her, but in the same round, I don't think I've ever seen somebody like I declared this player to be the worst putter I've ever seen. And then also at the same time, I'm jumping them down. I'm like, Oh my God, that's

one of the best puts I've ever seen. And that's Alex. And oh my goodness. She made there at the end. Absolutely. Dancing on the haters and losers. That was that was that was one of the worst like lag putts I've ever seen of which of which there are many That yeah, I'm raised my hand. I think like I'm I'm good. I don't need to watch her play golf on TV I do know what the bad thing about it's so comfortable You guys have seen this if you've seen videos Lexi puts like me. That's the scary thing Is that we suck it reading greens. We're horrible at pace and sometimes like our putters completely closed before impact and everything just goes hard left. Do you put the glove on? Please tell me I put one on. Okay. I might if it'll help me try it.

But that's not what it's part about. It's part of the, like, you know, a brief or the the full of yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's brutal. God, that put she hit her earlier in her round today. I tweeted a video. I don't even know if I'm allowed to tweet the video, but I was like, that's the worst part I've ever seen. Molly's come. Yeah. I know. I got to put that up regardless. And then yeah, she makes a ton of herty. She's going to make the cut. Let me, T.C., I wanna get you cooking here.

Let me just mention, because I'm not sure we're gonna spend much time talking about her, but there is one other player at four under tied for second, and that's China's G.U. Lin. She's actually been in good form. And as much as like just me personally, I'm not in any hurry to see your win this tournament. I do think we have to acknowledge like there's a chance that she could still be around Sunday and you know, might have a look here. The landlord, taking over for HV3 is the landlord. She's of course the the owns the home that, uh, Rooning in, uh, uh, rents from her. So that's, that's gonna be a narrative.

If it's fighting through massive drainage issues, send their post-run interview. And now they're in the, we can share a meal here soon. And they're in the rain soaked both baltaseral, which is not having drainage issues. But, uh, that's a fun little story. Yeah, yeah.

Uh, yeah, Rooning in her Chinese teammate, uh, I I believe is that 200. She's having a heck of a weekend, but T.C Let's go down the board, baby. Let's let's start with some really interesting chasers. I mentioned how much I like the leaderboard I think we got to start right here with Minji Lee at three under. Yeah, Minji Lee three under She was 400 to the 67 everybody seems to be having trouble with one. One is causing a lot of issues for scorecards. She bogged it, one of two bogies for the day and was four under on her back down today. So I think Minji, her outfit was sharp

and that kind of animal type sweater. Hannah commented on that one. She said, I love this sweater. Yes, that got her attention. Yeah, the only thing she said about it all. She plays really well in like dry conditions. So this is a little bit of an anomaly for her. But I think, you know, in good form heading into Pebble Beach

in a couple of weeks. So look out there. That's, it's just so crazy. They have back-to-back majors. I know there's a week off in between. But like, if you're playing well now, you can, you can hoover up so much money. It's just so crazy they have to back to back majors. I know there's a week off in between, but like if you're playing well now, you can hoover up so much money. It's crazy.

Leanne Pace, I mean, you were chuffed by this one. Yeah, let me just say on Minji, we had mentioned it in the preview show, but has played exceptionally well at the founders cup, which is as good of a course fit as we could identify. No surprise, Minji is playing well. I think I'm confident, Leonna is going to have a good weekend, but I'm also confident Minji is not going away. I feel very strongly somebody's going to have to go beat her. Yeah, Liam pace. I think this might be the end of the story arc for

for Liam pace. This is the standard ability model. I'm not liking this one. No, you know, she's she's in her, I believe she's in her 40s 42. Yeah, Bethan Nichols had a had a little nugget. She was essentially ready to retire a few years ago. And one of her friends called her up and told her like, hey, you have a shot to win the Aeon risk reward challenge. Like, for a million dollars, you need to keep going. She did not end up winning the Aeon risk reward challenge, but she's kept at golf. And here she is. Two shots off the lead of a major. Pretty incredible story, but yeah, I don't see it continuing very long into Saturday. We've got Stephanie Meadow at T8, Nina Harigai at T8 and Jin Young Co.

There as well. I think Jin Young Co lurking for shots back. One of those is not like the other. If we're going SAT question style. I'm pretty sure yesterday morning there was an early, you know, JYK Cia call a little too early in our in our slack. I don't like it. Who ejected her? I'll go back and check the tapes, but I know there was an attire call. Well, that's we will get there. I was me hand up. Yeah. Yeah. It's so bad. I did not I didn't see that coming. And I know you guys could not have seen that coming. I she was my pick not to win. Yeah. She was all over that. Well, listen, I mean, not to win and like completely like

strapping yourself to a rocket to get out of it. Is like completely too different. Trying to rest up for pebble. Rest up. She wants to get out of here. She's trying to rest up for Pebble. Rest up. She wants to get to Pebble before everybody else, I guess. Gina Kim playing good golf. She's T.A. as well. My girl, Celine Boutier, Alison Corpus. She continues to just...

I'm... Yeah. I simmer under the surface. I think we need to pay attention to Alison corpus She played really well at chevron for most of that tournament She's lurking as a soulheim cup member. She she seems pretty slow. I don't necessarily like watching her play But she is playing good golf Yeah, Jenny shin t8 as well. She was

good golf. Yeah. Jenny Shin T8 as well. She was, she, she made double on 17. The back-to-back par five is to finish it is, is, is electric. I mean, it's, it's, like, it's such a shame that, that, that Jimmy Walker was going to say. This, did you say that in 2016 when you try to take away Jimmy Walker's major. Yeah Brooke Henderson. Let's talk Brooke Came out firing yesterday 67 Four bird four bogies one birdie today Did not play particularly well 74 She is currently four back T8 lurking like there's a that that group at T8 is is heavy weights I agree I and I was gonna ask like obviously. I think Brooke That group at T8 is heavy weights.

I agree. And I was gonna ask, like obviously I think Brooke is lurking, has a shot to win. I would say, Junionco lurking, has a shot. Selene, obviously good player. I can kind of, you can kind of take the rest. I'm not sure if there's really any true. No, Lynn Grant, you're calling off the search. You're saying, you're saying the rest of the people at T8 or the rest of the people? The rest of the people at T8 at one under. Gotcha. I don't know if you guys feel differently. Nobody really does much for

me besides those three at one under. You've been highly critical of broken the past. So, you know. Yeah. And you're a big step metal fan, so I don't, I don't, I don't get it. No, no. I will say Randy, like normally I would do this on the men's side pretty quickly, like dismiss a group, but there are some random ass winners that come from, like that happen on the LPGA tour, right?

Like a bunch of names that are just like, whoa, Ashley Buhai, I know she's had a good season following up her win last year, but like, so some really surprising names that at the halfway point, we would have dismissed that sometimes just last and keep going and sprint through the finish line. Yeah, I know. So if you pop off is a random one. Yeah, I would still be shocked though. I'd still be shocked.

Mina Harige, Stephanie Meadow, they would shock me. But we'll see, we'll see. Guys, I think the main event is at T16 right now. Even we got Lauren, we got Amy Yang Yang Lynn Grant 71 71 Lynn Lynn is not potted well as far she's she's there you cassaso siding hell yeah call her out of the preview putt I called her out on the preview said where you been and she gave a little bit of a little bit of a glimpse as she had it to she started she didn't start on the back today She had it to

400 part one point and came home and four over on the back to get all the way back to Even par for the tournament which is disappointing but good good sign at least that she's you know I feel like she needs golf courses stretched out like this to really put her like ball striking on full display and her distance on full display and I'm excited to see her back in the mix somewhat. Amen. Can we talk about Lynn real quick? Yeah, please. Oh, you don't have to ask me.

I mean, very quiet, excellent first two days for her writing contention. I want to see it tomorrow. Like if there's a day, I want to see Lynn go out and shoot 68 or better. Randy, I do too, and I think she will. Or, you know, if the best round of the day is 68, she'll shoot, you know, one or two shots off of that. And just think if she wasn't giving up two shots to the field, she'd be right back in the mix in this thing.

We're not doing that. We're not doing that. Thank you, Solid. I just think if she wasn't giving up two shots to the field, she'd be right back in the mix in this thing. We're not doing that. We're not doing that. Thank you, Solid. A couple of other interesting names right there, right behind plus one, Padjury Anon Narukanan. We did this in the preview, but. I know, I know.

76, 67. That's, that's heady. Maria Fasi. How about that? Well, loving that sighting. Yeah. Angel Yen. Uh huh. Sick. I don't know if she started on the first whole or the 10th whole today. But triple number one, bogey number three, about about four birdies in a row. Shot 70 with a triple. So that's where we're going. She started on 10. Okay.

She did. And it gets better TC. She made a triple. She made a triple Thursday too. She's played 34 holes in 500 par and two holes in six over par. So she should be like pretty much leading the tournament. Or yeah, she should be like two under at worst. Which as we talked about in the preview,

like such an awesome sign. She is showing up in the biggest weeks. I'm so happy for her. It's awesome. And I think to your point about Yuka too, it's like she needs these courses that are a little bit more difficult. Yep. That you know, if you can hit the ball further, put it in different spots,

we'll really favor her. We got linear strom right behind her. Another promising, promising, sweet. I'm not going to lay you can't just skim bass, Jen, Jasmine, so on. Jasmine, so on a perra. She hasn't so on a perra. Yeah, she has the best headshot on this website.

So every time it's across past, we got to call that out. All right, you can keep it going. Better than Lucy Lee's headshot. Well, actually, I think hold on. I'll find a good one for you. But you keep cooking, Chef. Megan Kang kind of fought back after 74 yesterday. 7470.

Got Madeline T29, 7371. Gabby Ruffles called her out in the preview. You get the cut. Lian Well. Let me just say Madeline. Let me jump in with Madeline. She's so frustrating. One, they're not really showing.

I think they showed like two of her birdie puts today. But you know, it's, it's simply just refreshing the scorecard to try to keep up with her. She birdies the first two and it's immediately like, oh no, I know something bad is about to happen. And Cherenov, she bogused three of her next five. Like it just is a roller coaster ride for her. It's infuriating, it's exhilarating.

I just, one of these days I wanted to shoot just like a bogey free round, you know? Anyway, go ahead, Chef. No, that was great. We talk Rose. Rose and Alexa Pano and Ayaka Fruway. Fruway, Fruway. Fruway.

Fruway. Or Tidedle away. Fuddle away. Or are tied. Rose made a mess coming in. It was, it was, it was on becoming. Disappointed. I know she birdied nine, nine to close it out, but the bogey, the double bogey on eight was like unacceptable.

Yeah, a bad bogey on the par five seventh too. Like that's, that's the most gettable of the par fives. She just got out of position in the rough, never got it back onto the fairway, bad chip to, you know, just, yeah, disappointing, hated scene around like that. She missed her last two fairways there after hitting 12 in a row, I think. The putting, I'm worried about the putting. I know Sally is too. I think that's fair. I do, you guys made some good points on the Greens and how it doesn't really seem like anybody's rolling puts with a lot of confidence and they are, they do seem so fast that it's

like, how do you, the kind of puts that if you're not a great putter, it becomes a nightmare. And how do you even start online when they're that fast? But yeah, a lot of just, a lot of really bad bricks, you know, like not not burning edges on some of these putts. And it's got me, it's got me a little stressed over as I watch it. Can you imagine playing 36 holes with Lexi though? I mean, would you be, how would you feel standing over putts? I actually call it like live only. What are you talking about? I'll just say I almost like Lexi Bore. It's something like this.

It's freaky fast. You know, they said the aprons on the lead ups into the greens that is the approach areas are running at a 10-5 stimp. So I don't know what that means. The greens are running out, but it's psycho. Some of it I think too is like these greens are so big that unless you're hitting your irons really well,

you're not gonna put that well. Because you're gonna have so many really well, you're not going to put that well. Because you're going to have so many weird lags, right? I think that's right. Yeah. So I mean, props to Lexi, man. But what's not let Rose off the hook? I mean, I think Rose, she didn't pump particularly well coming down the stretch at the Mizzouo to win.

Like, you made her win even more impressive in my opinion that she. Struck the ball quite well and yeah, I think she had I heard she had negative shots gain putting that week. The week that she won, which is crazy. I think you're right. Like definitely the weakness of her game is her putting right now. but definitely the weakness of her game is her putting right now. It's not so much, it's interesting though,

because you guys tell me what you think. It's not that she looks shaky over four and five footers. It's more like she just hits some bad putts out of nowhere. It's kind of how I see it. It's a little rowy syndrome of like these, you know, you get so many 15 footers when you hit it as good as she does, and it probably feels like she's worse at putting

than the numbers will actually tell out, right? You're not supposed to make 15 footers, but she's got so many of those looks that you feel like more of these should go in, and she's on TV a lot, and you just see a lot of those misses, and I don't know, maybe I'm overreacting a little bit to a six round sample size, but I'm not a big technique guy.

I shouldn't be critiquing anyone's technique. I don't love or stroke. I don't love the pause in it or the slow motion backswing. I just doesn't look, doesn't look stress-free. It doesn't agree with me. Yeah. And anybody that's like, oh, I think Rose is doing great. Let's just chill out on Rose.

It's like, well, she's already is doing great. Like, let's just chill out on Rose. It's like, well, we're, she's already in the mix for like a freaking S.B. Her blocky, you know, like we need to, we need to hold her to a high standard here. Well, no, I think it's fair. Yeah. That's like, crown, you know, if, yeah, if, if, if she wants to be talked about among the best in the game, then it's totally fair. And I definitely think you guys are on the right track. Like the putting seems to be a little bit of an Achilles heel right now, which when we went out for that Stanford

documentary last February, she was going through some putter changes. And I mean, I think it's been a question and an issue for for a little while now for sure. Anything else on Rose? We get some some miscut names here. I mean yeah I think I think before we get there I want to shout out any park. Made the cut she's she's been struggling little bit. I think I want to see a good weekend out of her. I think this is a big chance. Stephanie Kiriaku.

We had our man, Zoot, one of the on-course osteos in the chat, saying that she wasn't an IV drip for two and a half hours before around today. Goes out and shoots 71. So be where the sick. There. Yeah, be where the sick golfer food poisoning allegedly. Which that seems So be where the sick there. Yeah, be where the sick golf her food poisoning allegedly. Which that seems to be going around up there. No, we were

warmed at this like last week or the week prior of some maybe something got in the kitchen up there and they can't really quite put it out yet. But I guess it from it's everywhere. It's a tough scene right now. Lydia co T64. 74 73 now we're looking for now. Not really clicking seems like I don't know D plus game for her right now. Yeah. Moria and Arya both both made the cut until the cashier made the cut. I'm dying to see more out of her. both made the cut until the cash turn made the cut. I'm dying to see more out of her. But yeah, I think it's there's a lot of players that surprisingly didn't make the cut. I think shout out to Stacey Lewis real quick. I'll make it the cut as well. Soulheim Cup captain in the US

side. She has 72 75 to make the cut. But marina, that's gotta be disappointing for her to, you know, go home to New Jersey for a major. I made the cut. Can we talk about all a hooligans mist cut, by the way? Yeah. She's that was a top. She set five over par needs to make a par on the par 518th hole to make the cut dead tops it out of the fairway, trickles it into the water, like a very sick cold top trickles it into the water drops Like a very sick cold top trickles it into the water. Drops

hits it up on the green has like a 15, you know, 20 footer, maybe to make, to save part to make the cut misses it misses the cut by one. Extremely extremely sick. Yeah, hit a very good but that was a tough way to miss a cut. That says that mean the, the oof levels were very large. Yeah, first name that jumps out of me there is is is lilyavu. Yeah. Yeah. Tough. Not a good week. Great podcast, guess, great podcast, guess, I hate to do this. Honestly, calls the chevron's major credibility into question. No, no, no, no, I did a little research post the preview pod. She has been

dealing with a back injury. That's the reason why she basically didn't play post anything on the West Coast. She's been out trying to heal clearly not there yet. Hopefully she gets a little bit more time this week next week and then US Open. We see it again. Good intel there. and we see it again. Okay. Good intel there. Um, let's see. I was a horror miss in the cut. We've got the, uh,

Cup show. I know. That's our previous VC. I'm sorry. I was devastated. Patty T. Uh, Georgia Hall is officially like, the heat is like the, the, the,

the streak is, is gone. Yeah. The magic is lost, um magic is lost from the West Coast swing. And like it, but it's just crazy how far down the leaderboard, we have to go for like Andrea Lee plus 10. There's some enormous numbers from some big names that are we haven't gotten to yet. Yeah. Plus 10, a tie at it, a whom plus 10, like, you know, we've got a tie was the favorite. And she missed a cup by five. I don't, I, and I don't know. Plus 11. Yeah.

So for a tie, I did not see this coming, had, had been in good form. Again, had played well at the founders cup. Everything was pointing to should have a big week and just straight up came out and laid an egg. I don't know if it's anything other than that. Very surprising and disappointing for your boy. I was talking about shots earlier TC. A Charlie whole. We all know we're big fans of Charlie Hall, but I don't think this is actually a picture of Charlie Hall. I don't know maybe I haven't seen her with their glasses. Sans visors or anything else like that, but these headshots sometimes they just don't match up. Hey guys, I got a special guest. Charlie whole getting beat by Laura Davies. Like come on. Well, it's by one. At least it was a close a really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really from the locker room. It is our very young young hitter. So pumped to be joined now.

Hey, Lord Cogland, how are you? How are you? How are you? Hey, Lord Cogland. How are you? How are you? Thank you. Yeah, I was telling Cody I was like, I think that was like,

probably the best round in my life. But there, it was pretty crazy. Why do you put it up that high? How do you, what gives you reason to put it up that high? I mean, both stores are so hard. And you just have to really, I mean, you just have to get good, good golf shots. Like if you get in the rough, it's brutal judging lies and everything like that. Um, so you have to really take your medicine.

The greens are so firm that if you are in the rough, like some of the pains you can't really get to, but then there's so much going on in the greens that like, yeah, you may hit the green, but a two- so much going on in the greens that like, yeah, you might hit the green, but a two pups not guaranteed either. So yeah, I think I just took my medicine really well today, and got up and down, whereas yesterday I didn't feel like I played like that bad. I mean, I hit 15 greens. I just had a couple of three puts and my speed guy and it got a little, got a little off towards the last few, last few holes and yeah, and I hit it in the rough, which again, like chipping how the rough is very difficult

to just judging how it's gonna come out and all that is not fun. So yeah, I think that's probably why. I just, I hit a lot of really good drives, took my medicine, made a lot of really good, like five, six footers for par and a few for birdie today as well. So I mean, I was just, yeah, I felt like I was, I knew I was going to have a good round from the start.

Um, I just kind of can feel it, wasn't really nervous at all. Kind of just stayed super neutral and yeah, that's, I think that's kind of what it was. But yeah, it was just, yeah, like all the pencil, I would say it's more the pencil than the claw, but yeah. Lauren's gonna try to make more money from KPMG in two years than I made in nine years working for that actual company. I wouldn't even be mad about it. I'm not even gonna be mad about it. I'll see. I love it. I love it. I love it. And then the conditions too, I mean, I kind of, it was brutal yesterday when I was playing in the morning, just the wind, judging the wind and the temperature and it's misting off

and on, just trying to figure out how far everything's going and then taking into account how far it's going to release on the green. That kind of got to me a little bit yesterday. There wasn't really any wind and I drizzled a little bit for like two holes today. That's a kind of got pretty lucky in terms of the wave too. I was gonna ask you, you're kind of touching on it, but how has the course either changed

or held up from earlier in the week with this rain and kind of the weather system? Has it played still pretty firm and fast and is it you know is it pretty representative of the course that they were hoping for? Yeah I think so it's not a long golf course like congressional last year was very long even though it's firm and fast so it was very long. I didn't feel like this as long as you were hitting fairways I didn't feel like it was that long. It's also not sure either like I don't have any wedges into anything except for like

two of the par-fives are like reachable, but other than that like I don't really have so I don't really hit any wedges like all week so far but a lot of like mid-iron and the par-three's are long, but I would say it's playing pretty close to what it was early in the week. The only difference is the ball was flying a little bit further earlier in the week. And the fairways, although they're still firm, I mean, they do have a little bit of wetness to them, so they're not quite releasing like in the fairways, but the greens are definitely still just as firm. Any holes we should be on the lookout for this weekend that you think will be particularly like based on where they can put a pen or if they move up a T here or there.

Yeah, I mean 16 spruodle. It's just so long. I mean I had three hybrid in it today. And you know it's two 14. They can put some if they put it in the front, that's really, really tough. Try to think. Three is a really tough hole because if you, you try to want to, you kind of have to, you're trying to take off as much as you can in terms of getting it a little bit left to try to get into like a speed slot. But if you hit too far left, you go on the rough and then you're, so you, it doesn't, you still have like 180 yards into this par four where the green is super severe up until like 15 yards on in the green and even though you're coming out of the rough it doesn't go all the way up it and it comes all the way back down but you also don't want

to go long so it's it's really really that's a really tough hole that great it's so far below like the fairway. It doesn't show up on TV at all, but it's crazy how much lower that green is. Yeah, they moved, although the rough isn't like thick over in that left side. Apparently I heard from someone where like they didn't guilt and touch that side, so the rough wasn't too bad. So it's not like it's super thick, like some of the other stuff, but still you're coming out of the rough trying to judge it and all that. For as a fun hole, if they move, like, there's definitely, there definitely could be some hole in ones if they put it up in the front and move the tee up and even probably if they don't have the tee up, yeah.

We talking fun open. Yeah, big time. Yeah, big time. How are the, the, the two-fives to close it out? How does that work psychologically for you? You kind of have to paste yourself a little bit or be patient or I'm sure your eyes get real big. Two par-fives in a row, let's go. I think today when I got through 16, I was like, oh yes, I have 17 and 18, two par-fives coming in. It was definitely like a sigh really

But but 17 super long means like 550 and kind of into the win yesterday They moved the key box up like 40 50 yards and its girls were still not able to cover The like buzzers. Yeah Like both the girls I played with hit it in there yesterday. Well, today I hit it left, they moved it back today. I hit it left in the left fairway bunker, hit it into another one of the fairway bunkers in the great hazard, like 188 yards, and I hit it like five feet for birdie.

That'll work. I want your cooking, you're cooking, it's all good. Yeah, yeah. My caddy was like, I think you just saved us That'll work. When you're cooking, it's all good. Yeah. My caddy was like, I think you just saved us from getting chewed out by husband John there, by hitting it really close. I took on a little too much trying to get over the hazard, trying to not to lay up. Yeah, I have to tell that drill sergeant to calm down a little bit. He didn't even go to the clubhouse and just check out, man.

This is a big week for him. He's a big person. We can't. No. What, Lauren, what's, what's, if you don't mind, take us into kind of how you'll approach tomorrow, you know, you find yourself,

you're coming off an excellent second round. How do you like to approach round three? Is it, you know, just try to stay patient, just just make good swings. I'm sure, but is it like, is there a number you want to go out and chase? Do you think about it in terms of that at all? And also just compare, like, does it feel different having been there and done it last year and competed and sprinted through the finish line in this event last year? Yeah, I think definitely to answer your question, Saul, it definitely helps that I've been in the position a little bit before. But I don't think I

would necessarily have a number. I think saying patient is the biggest thing. I know I went bogey free today, but that was again, round my life, probably going to make a bogey too for sure this weekend, and not letting them bother me like they bothered me yesterday. It was kind of going to be the big key. Yeah, I just got to keep staying patient and take my medicine when I need to. I mean, I've thought a lot about what Brooks has been saying about how like, just, you know, just make your bogey and, you know, you can make a birdie coming back. It's okay, like, I didn't do a good job of that yesterday and it caught up to me because I felt like I was playing

so much better and I definitely got frustrated having a couple of three puts on two and four yesterday and then it just kind of spiraled, which is kind of a theme that's happened this whole year for me. So just trying not to spiral and let anything get to me is going to be my big key for the weekend and see how low I can go. Well, that's what makes Major Championship golf fun because I flipped back over to the

travelers and it was like just a sprint. The leaders are at 1500. It's a sprint. I watch like can't lay miss a putt. Like you need to fall eight back. I'm like, okay, well his week is done and like and majors. You can make a bogey. You can miss a putt and you never feel like you're out of it. Like it just you can make a bogey, you can miss a putt, and you never feel like you're out of it. You can scrap, you can claw, you can fight your way up a lead aboard so much easier than these tournaments where you can just get out and sprint. I think that's what makes them fun.

Yeah, that definitely is like my strength. When parsed a good score, the good score is definitely something that placed what I'm really good at. So, this is the, I mean, last year at KPMG was really the first time I played well in a major. And so I'm hoping I'm not, I'm like second alternate from my site for you. So open at Pebble in two weeks. So fingers crossed, I can maybe get get into that. But yeah, I'm, I was looking forward to this week because I knew it could play to what I do really good.

But we'll see how it goes this weekend. Any insight into the weather forecast before we let you go? I haven't looked to be honest outside of this today and tomorrow. I mean, yesterday and today, and I haven't really been on my, it's played, it takes super long to play this golf course. And so I like had just gotten some food real quick. Um, you know, I saw the golf. Oh, no, why are you eating the food in the club?

Oh, I know we heard a bug going around stomach, but yeah, but it's like Cincinnati all over again. My caddy, um, caddy John is back on the back for me this week. He had for me for like two and a half years, um, up until quarters of a year. But he got sick on Wednesday. So husband John had to caddy on Wednesday. But he was all excited because now he has a caddy badge which gets him into dining. He's going to be the next one down. Yeah. Yeah. No, I honestly haven't looked. I think it's probably going pretty similar to that. Yeah, pretty similar. Saying showers with a chance that thunderstorms,

some thunderstorms made pretty heavy rainfall. You know, humid with highs in the lower 80s, low winds, like five-mount hour winds, and pretty much the same thing for for Sunday Sunday looks a little bit more sunny, but she's one major Championships and worst conditions in this and I teach That's true. That's right. That's right. He's fine. I will never I will never play in rain like rain and wind I think like that ever again in my whole life. Glad we could have prepared you for this weekend. I feel really good about that That's a great feeling. Yeah Well, Lauren, I know it's been a long day for you Congrats awesome awesome second round

We all know you know the job's not done. So get out of here get some rest and have a great weekend, okay? Thanks. I'll see you guys later. Thanks Lauren. Okay. Thanks Lauren. Good luck. I'm strong. Thanks. Bye How about that? That's pretty cool pretty cool big pretty cool sometimes like You guys later. Thanks Lauren. Thanks Lauren. Good luck. Thanks. Bye. How about that? That's pretty cool. Pretty cool, big. Pretty cool. Sometimes life's pretty cool. Life be like that sometimes.

What does she need to get into US Open? Well, I was already closed. I almost asked her. Yeah, it feels like the way she made it, the way she was talking, it seems like she can't play her way and she just need somebody a couple people to drop out. I bet she could if she won. Right. That's true. That would work. I'll look that up. You guys can vape.

Yeah, I think they'd let a major winner in that that's right. Well, T.C. we were, I think we've gotten through. I think we pretty much vank our points. Yeah. I mean, Nelly, we got to talk Nelly. We do have to talk Nelly. Nelly claimed she was healthy this week, had had taken the last several, I don't know exactly what Cody three, four weeks off, because of a back issue, claims she was fully healthy coming into this week. And she goes 76, 77, complete non-factor. I think a couple things. It's a shame for her. I think it's a shame for us as viewers. I think it's doubly a shame if the back is bothering her.

We've talked about the US Open coming up in two weeks. That's tough. But TC, I think the conversation, if she is healthy, I think it brings up an interesting question that has kind of been circling around Nelly. And that's just like, is she a baddler? Like is she willing to go out and grind? Bad weather day, slow, you know, kind of slow pace of play. Like, does she want to be out there? Does she

want to, is she, is she looking for the battle? Is she looking for the fight? I'm not seeing it. If I can chime in real quick, I will get right back to this top three finishers among the top 10 at the KPMG women's PGA that are not already exempt is would get her in so okay Got a shot On the netherthing. I think it's it's all right coming off a back injury, but like available to play But being like ready to play are two different things right like a can you be as sharp as you want to be are you tournament ready to play are two different things. Can you be as sharp as you want to be? Are you tournament ready to come back? It looks like the answer to that is no.

I don't mean to make an excuse for it because I still think her major record deserves some scrutiny, if you will. But this is one that I'm kind of like, ah, that probably should have been on the models. Listen to I pick her as one of my picks to win. Sure, do I regret it? Absolutely, but yeah, I thought she'd be more prepared,

just did not look very well prepared for this. Yeah. What's your take? I'm trying, I know it's lower back, and I know this is the same thing that she dealt with last time. I was going back and trying to pull up her transcript to see what she actually said on Tuesday during her interview, because this, it seems like if she's still injured,

like, fix the injury, there's no real need to do this and come out. It could be a, are you hurt, are you injured in a situation? Very much so, but this is a, you know, one year ago, this time is, this is the exact same thing that she did. She just kind of showed up and pined needles and balled out.

And then it seemed like everything was okay. That's clearly got the case this year. Obviously that was leading up to the US Women's Open when it was at the beginning of June. But yeah, it just seems like she didn't have it and then she just kind of laid down kind of the same thing that honestly I thought the Lexi was going to do just because how poorly that's like she was playing. But Lexi got that fight in her man and she's like, hell no, like I'm gonna make the cut. From the cut line to like where the leaders are at it's not that big of like a distance

at all. I can make this shit up. And it seems like Nelly was just like poo-poo and just let it completely get away from her. All right. One thing about Nelly, looking at all of her wins, even her win at Atlanta athletic club, the KPMG, they're all at like, deep, big time, double digit under par. Kind of rowing style.

Yeah, like, I mean, exactly what I was saying. Taiwan, 13 under, Australia and open, 17 under, Taiwan again, 18 under, game bridge, 16 under, Meyer LPGA, 25 under, women's PGA at Atlanta Athletic Club, 19 under, and then both of the Republicans, 17 and 14 under. Like that's, that's a radically different style of golf than what's being played here. Yeah, I'm gonna make a sweeping generalization along those lines T.C. is she If we're Is she playing golf swing or is she playing golf and to me it feels like she is so wrapped up in her swing the mechanics of it the aesthetics of it

I don't know if that leads to somebody that's able to grind and build, like, squeeze the most out of, like, a bad ball striking day. It's got a new swing coach for those that don't know. I forget his name at the moment, but the head pro at Jupiter Hills is her new swing coach. Only thing I'll point out, and what you pointed out in the record of the wins is at the Cape, the major that she did win. She won 19 under her and Lizette's house with the only players that were better than 10 under in that tournament, right? Like they kind of ran away. A true Rory situation. Like Rory was like, well, I was

the only one. I was the only one under, you know, double digits under par. Like congressional pretty much. Yeah. I won by eight, but I was the only one that doubled the thunder. But even the stuff that she's like, you know, she won the French Open. She won the Aramco series in Spain. That was 15 under, 13 under. Some extra tors.

She won a 14 under Olympics. She won a 17 under. And I know there's probably not that many tournaments on the LPGA tour that are, you know, not double digits under par. But this is very clearly, like, especially when you look at her US women's open record as well. Yeah.

She's got a T8, a T10, and then some mishcuts and kind of some no-shows. But and if you drill down, which I was just doing TC, that's a great point because her T8 last year was at Pine Needles, which we all said was like, why is this not more difficult? Right? And her ms cuts were at Olympic Club in San Francisco, where four under was the winning score. Champions Golf Club three under was the winning score.

It just, yeah, God. Whether there's true correlation at the bottom of it, I don't know, but the, or true causation, I should say, but it's at least a very interesting coincidence that, you know, she kind of struggles when par is a really good score. She's not, she's not buoyant. She does not float, right? And she's definitely not the buoy on the on the women's side. And looking at future venues, like I don't see a whole lot of easing up as far as women's PGA, US women's open, you know, always got the chevron. Got it. You've always got the chevron. She She's never never done much at Evion either. So it's

I don't know if they traveled Evion. I'll see the her best women's British open was in 2019 when Hadoca, Shabuna won at 18 under. Yeah, which was like not a link score. I think scores. Yeah. Yeah. We're cooking. We're cooking, baby. I love it. It's not early for Nelly, you know, like it's, it's, it's, we're, it's, she's 24, solid. She's, she's, she's, she's older than Ludwig. That's old.

Yeah, that's really interesting, really interesting. Who's like the PGA tour equivalent to that? Of Nelly? Just can't win when it's not a birdie fest. It's Rory, right? I mean, it's Rory prior to his seemingly, like, it seems like Rory's evolved a bit. Right? He hasn't gotten to done in a major, obviously, but it seems like he's, he's learned how to grind or he's learned how to tape something together a little bit.

From the swing, from the swing standpoint, we had, I feel like I've thrown the name Adam Scott out there just in terms of like, it's so good, right? When it's's on it's so good, but it's not It's like the results are never gonna be as good as we expect given like how good they play and how good their swing is when they're like on top of their game Is it is it can't live? I? Mean their game. Is it is it can't let? I mean, she's one of major. That's that's that's no, just in general like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can say can we like this is, you know, American Express championship all over there. They're, they're, you know, they're fast little bloggers to get out there quick to 20 under par. They're like comfy in that 15 to 22 under

par range. So when you stack up all those, you know, the PJ tour events that he thrives at, I was gonna say a little bit of Xander too because sometimes Xander has issues like he can run out but you put them on a big boy course and he just kind of doesn't show up all the time. Real good at making top 20s. But should I be JT Post and? Hmm, that's interesting.

The Postman just goes out and Litz is the field every once in a while goes way under but Guys, yeah, we don't we don't need to do a whole cut watch on travelers, but TPC hard for its under attack guys. It's it's it's being picked apart The two I just saw Bacon tweeted there's five bogies total from the top five on the leaderboard so far this week. So for the week. Yeah, one from McCarthy, one from Keegan, one from Chez, one from Eric Cole, one from ZB. Five bogies. Nice tour.

Nice tour. It's such a good golf course too. I really enjoy the golf course. And it's just like guys are hitting like, you know, lob wedge into 18. It's like what are we doing? Still. But golf might be broken. Well, let's uh, we got a little bit more time. Do we want to unload on NBC? And then before we get out of here, I want to play, we got to play how far back is too far back and we should probably put some picks on the record for the Sunday show.

So let's start with the, let's go to TV coverage. Guys, can I give the company line that NBC would try to out, that KPMG would try to out, and then you guys just blast them to hell please? Go ahead. Last year, this tournament had 14 hours of coverage. I believe it had no peacock. This year, there are 26 hours of coverage, almost doubling the amount of coverage from from last year. They've, they've incorporated peacock to deliver most all of

those extra hours of, of programming. What more could you guys possibly want? We're doubling, we're almost doubling the coverage load, and you guys still aren't happy. Can't believe it. I think there should be a mandatory clause in the contracts that says that you have to carry it through the end of the round. If you're going to start coverage, who's round? What's the way to- What's the way to-

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What's the way to- What's the way to- What's the way to- What's the way to- What's the way to- What's the way to- What's the way to- What's the way to- What was announced on peacock was that we were literally just watching the Lexi Rose group Well, there's feature coverage at the start of the week if you see on Instagram the LPGA will publish their feature groups And they just happened to be the groups that they put the mobile cameras with and then Pretty much everything else you'll see from a tower. That's why you get a lot of put

And then pretty much everything else you'll see from a tower. That's why you get a lot of putts, some approach shots. Now I do think today they took some of those cameras from early groups and got them out to, for instance, we saw some Mel Reed, we saw some Selene Borga. So they did redeploy some of those cameras, but that's why we saw so much of Lexi, Minji and Rose. I mean besides being like three really interesting, you know players worthy of coverage Yeah, they just it's such a scale down operation from anything you would see on the men's side Even like champion store. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so the crazy thing about it is that the LPGA tour KPMG and NBC and whatever you could wrap all that in from peacock to golf channel everything like that I don't know what else they need like rose is the future of the women's professional game

I don't care what investment you need to make like and where that money from. If you're not showing her complete round on fucking TV somewhere, you're doing yourselves a company to service. 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever you need to do, however you need to parse it up between Peacock, between, I mean, the fucking corn fairy

tour does Twitter live, whatever it is. Put her in front of fucking people so they can watch your fucking generational golfer play golf. That's where I'm at Cody is is are things to at what point do we walk away from the notion that things have to look a certain way and that the broadcast has to be on all this this certain type of camera and all of that, especially if it's on peacock anyway. It was a stripped down to, you know, just show the golf and do it, figure out how to do it cost effectively and efficiently with less people if that's the thing because they're not

looking at it like an investment. That's the problem. They're looking at it like a massive liability. So for people who don't know how this shit works, like legitimately with NBC, if you want, like to, when they do the aerial coverage brought to you by way star, like NBC how this works, I hope I had this right, this is what I've been told,

but they will just send, like here's what it costs and they send that bill to that company to pay the expense. Like it's not like, they will not fly the plane. If they don't, so that's what I'm saying. It's like, they, I guarantee what happened this year. I don't know this for a fact, but I bet KPMG, like, put up these peacock hours. I bet you anything, they paid for this, right?

So, it's hard not to, like, it's hard to, I get worked up about this every year for this tournament, but I guarantee it's KPMG, with all they've done for this tournament, $10 million per person. It's a tournament to tour everything. It's a huge investment on their part, and they've probably bought these hours online, right? It's like literally NBC, the cock, and golf channel have just, they're holding golf hostage right now.

They've bought up these rights, and they're holding it hostage. They're charging more to run more hours on it. If you want to watch golf, you've got to go through them and it is also they can make their special, it's time to make profits off this. It's just like they're not willing to invest in the product. You're talking about the future of their tour. MBC doesn't give a shit about any of that at any level and everything is so short term based.

It is just like late stage capitalism that just like really frustrates me and like makes me not want to watch sports. Like it sucks. I'm in worth watching though, right? Right, that's what we go back to. You know, they took Rose saying after she won her pro debut in New Jersey, put her on the NBC Today show in front of millions and millions of people.

Now, how many of those people who, hey, she seems like a delightful young lady, you know, I want to track her progress. By some miracle, maybe they found out that there's a tournament this week that's a major. By some miracle, maybe they found golf channel for early morning coverage, but the majority of roses round today is on peacock premium, right? And then, e-min. Which we're paying for.

Like I'm paying for a service. I'm paying you to, like, I pay for golf channel. All right, this isn't gonna be on golf channel. Like that's part of the expense of like, some of it's subscriber based, right? It's not just advertiser based, subscriber based. Right, and now that person, I've managed to find peacock, I've paid for it,

and now, oh, we have a hard out at seven, Rose has what, like one more hole to play, we can't stick around to a single hole not only rose But fucking minji who's like hard three Yeah, what when we talk about growing the game and bringing in new like do you think that ecosystem brings in any Casual would be golf fan. There's not a chance in hell not a chance in hell It I'm trying to think of like what the comparable is here, but it might be like there's not a chance in hell, not a chance in hell. I'm trying to think of what the comparable is here, but it might be like, so if we ran a podcast

that had exclusive rights to cover a tournament and we charged ads for it, also charged a subscription to watch it, and also charged the event more money for us to talk about it for an extended period of time. Like, that'd be so sick. But it didn't even finish the job. And be so sick and then didn't finish the job And then yeah, and then kind of half-ass the actual we met our contract

I'll be the Asian guys. Oh, they're not done tough shit. I mean what what would they done if they would have been an actual like weather delay They had well well, you know when Rose actually won the pro debut a few weeks ago, they had like scrambled the jets just to like find extra coverage to show hurt like to show her then And they extended they they brought out streaming coverage on the front end of that too They it actually seemed like change was a foot Right, we I'm hesitant to go any farther on this because we need to say this for the Sunday show where we're going to get more lessons to it anyways. Like we needed to go through this whole thing all over again because I guarantee they heard our feedback from

Chevron because now they have a pack like they at least haven't like an opening package like a major championship like here we go to ball to crawl and this trophy in the history of this event and I don't like they actually have a package that's exactly what we said I just got the whole, this is what happened. Uh, at the Chevron, they had that all loaded up, right? But something, you know, this, this Texas thing where vehicles just randomly catch on fire, I think the production truck caught on fire on the track. No, no, no, no, no, no, somebody stole all the gas out of it

when it was parked in the compound. Yeah, somebody, well, well, going to Texas, man. Yeah. But guys, like, well, gonna dex his man. Yeah, but guys like so all right Crazy how that never happens at a men's major, you know, I feel like they would figure something out if it was a men's LACC they didn't have back up And up I was not watching much of the LACC. How do they televised the women's PGA or the women's PGA, or the women's NCAAs in their entirety?

And not, you know, like, who's paying him to do that, right? Like, what's the, what's the, the, like, that's, that's an, that's an example of, hey, this is a pretty good, they do good with product, we're putting out, we're doing a good job with it, we're showing it in its entirety. And like, I guess my big thing too is like, you don't have to have tower cameras

and this, like, we're not asking for the best coverage in the world with all sorts of Venice cams and drone shots and all this stuff. I'm fine if they wanna strip it down bare bones. I think what we're about is just show the golf. If there's a way to watch, even if it's a single camera following Rose, you know, Rose and her putts and all, you know, Rose and all of her shots

and all that, like do that. Like I'm not like, and then we'll get to, you know, like walk before you can run. Like I'd rather there be something than nothing. And all as always, this is not directed at the crew that we hear through the telecast. I feel like they're the R Kelly, like I'm fighting my fucking life out here, guys. Like we got like five cameras. I'm doing the best I can.

I think Morgan Pressle has been really good. Like I've really strong, she's come on really strong this year. And they're doing the people out there doing the best they can. They're just getting a cam strung. So bad for them. Yeah, they're like the people out there doing the best they can. They're just getting a camstrung. So bad for them. Yeah, they're like,

for the road every week. And you know, without the proper resources to do their jobs really. Yeah. Ryan Roberts, Aunt Molly, all you, Shane out. Okay, well, riddle me this and on PGA tour and the PGA Tour live deal.

How come it's on ESPN and not like on peacock? Because ESPN, ESPN, right steel? Yeah, ESPN plus pays. Yeah, so basically like the for the, if I think I have this right, when they like golf channel when they did one of the contracts way back in the day before PGA Tour live even existed,

had the digital rights and just like refused to do anything with it. And so they like bet went like the tour was basically like, can we like, I don't know, buy the rights back or can we put up our own in house PJ Tor live thing that eventually in the new TV deal was able to sell to ESPN. Right. Right. That's how it went from like PJ Tor live app to NBC sports gold to now ESPN plus whatever. I mean, these are this is the worst the worst managing this company. Like

truly, truly sick. I just wish like I'm saying this like we we've talked to Molly about this like just find find a partner and like, I'll smash not, not Molly. No, no, no, no. Commish like all fucking volunteer to do it. Like I would, I just want to see these women play golf. Again, you have like this generation super, like superstar on her second professional event.

Yeah, right? She wonder fucking debut. You're right? She won her fucking debut. You're right. I'm going to get to the end of the day. They did the entire fucking Rocha with this same company. And they're just not going to show her finished around. But Cody, they would have had to pay the crew to film the event.

They would have had to. The crew wants the fucking do it. They're just as invested into this as we are. It's nuts, man. All right. I'm going to give you guys real Friday. It's a weekend. We'll circle back Sunday. We'll couple things on my list real quick. Randy, there's a guy playing the British am. It looks just like you. Slenderman, Slenderman, you night. He looks like you had a dress even. It's crazy. Yeah. Add it to us.

Not in address. Yeah. Add it to us. That's what I said. Betty hit to the little further than I do. Probably more spin farther farther. Right. Solly congrats on Uncle Yost's ace today.

Almost almost six years to the day of my alleged ace. So thank you for that. Do You guys see Mike Lorenzo Vera tweeting about slow play during the round Save some stuff for the Sunday show. I know we're trying to let you cook your TC, but Yeah, and then we got you know, and then yeah, we got Danny McCarthy T1 With keegan Bradley. We got a potential Chezfest situation brewing Up in Hartford, Sack Blair on the

first page of the leaderboard at a designated event. Sick. Can I just point out something too that just is a little bit annoying to me. It just sticks in my crawl a little bit. There's a designated event against a woman's major. Yeah. Yeah. I think I do think that those were probably it's not like they they

Did all this planning on the designated events. Yeah, they're like true, you know, and so it's like net yet like next week Would have been a much better. All right Detroit right right instead or maybe we flip travelers and it just it just makes the the quote-unquote Strategic alliance. It just rings a little that's a sham. That doesn't I don't think can call the FPGA on a strategic alliance, do they? Yeah, they do. I think they, yeah, they trumpet it as such. Okay, let's get everybody out.

Let's go around how far back is too far back? Oh quick, Ludwig too. Yeah, sorry, just gotta say, Ludwig, 67, 65, he's currently T10 lurking. He hasn't even played good golf yet. Cool. Thank you, T.C. What do you think of our guy, James? Niddy's saying watch out for

the ADDC. I've been I've been I've been screaming out from the rooftops for a week to one literally a week. No, two weeks. Sorry sorry, two weeks when he won his first event. That's right. Four weeks. If you go find that, I'll acknowledge that on Sunday's show, but I'm going to challenge it. I actually funny story, guys.

Oh my gosh. I want to watch this game. This is an epic baseball game going on right now. I reached out to golf channel when they were doing like the bottom line for the PGA tour you for seven months they had Adrian Dumont that your Sartz names spelled wrong. Seven months I had to contact eight different people you know to finally change it. That's the lack of pride that these people have. Yeah. Yeah. So how far back is too far back? Too far back is plus two.

So we're eliminating everybody at plus two or worse. Correct. And only reason plus one is in it is because Angel Yen has been ballin' out. He's saying roses dead, maddening, dead, bad ones. He's saying roses dead, bad ones dead. They're not gonna win. I've accepted that. I'll apologize.

I think plus two is in this, man. I think plus three's too far back. Especially if it's rainy, they could do some funky things with the setup. They could ease up on them a little bit on a Saturday. There could be a 65 out there. Cardinalata, Nasa, Lexi,

going out shooting, 66 tomorrow. Really? Yeah, but she'll shoot like 79 on Sunday, so no matter. I know, would be sick, rooting for it. I agree, TC. I'm going to agree with you. Plus three, I'm going to eliminate everybody at plus three or worse, even though I just made the counter-argument. Cody, what's your two-four back?

Yep, plus three. I can't, It's all you didn't you have Rose? You're giving up already. I'll fade. I plus two still in it. You back me. There you go. There you go. That's fine. I can't. It's only seven back of one player. It's like six back of multiple. You're right. Plus two is in it. I overreacted. All right. Pick the win. We want to start.

Mindy Lee. Tough to argue. I'm gonna go with, I'm gonna go with Jin Youngco. Tough to argue. Yeah, I'm gonna go Mindy as well. But just because that's already stated, I'm gonna go with somebody who's sitting at T8 right now, one at a part, and that is the pride of Canada, Brooke Anderson. Wow. Actually, stated, I'm going to go with somebody who's sitting at T8 right now, wanted a part and that is the pride of Canada, Brooke Henderson. Wow. Actually, guys, I'm changing mind.

Win, Grant. I was prepared to not take genuine coba. I will backfill and take the vacated genuine code to win. I was going to just show some love for Leonardo McGuire. Would love to see here close this. That'd be awesome. That'd be awesome. That'd be awesome. That'd be awesome. That's what I'm rooting for. I'd say that's anything at the top there. Happy to be wrong here. All right. Well, boys appreciate you hopping on on a Friday. This was a lot of fun. Appreciate everybody watching live. We certainly are thankful for you guys.

Everybody listening. I hope you're able to catch as much coverage as possible. It's going to be on the COC this weekend, 11 a.m. Eastern until really all the way through. But NBC is going to pick up the broadcast at 3pm Eastern on Saturday and at 2pm Eastern on Sunday. So before that, it's a cock weekend. So, uh, they abandoned it prior. Like I bet we have a delay at some point this weekend. We ride it. It's going to be really interesting to see what happens schedule wise. And if I can

leave you guys with this, Votto's still banks. And whoa, get us out of here, Code Man. Cheers, Bangaloo. Final Lair. Be the right club, be the right club today. Yes. That is better than most.

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