No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 703: Travelers & KPMG Women's PGA Recap

Episode Date: June 26, 2023

We're pulling double duty on this week's recap pod with Ruoning Yin claiming the KPMG Women's PGA Championship and Keegan Bradley winning the Travelers. We start at Baltusrol with Yin's first major championship, the close calls for some of the contenders on the leaderboard, our thoughts on Baltusrol as a host for a women's major and the television coverage from the weekend. Then it's on to the Travelers (56:15) where Keegan Bradley took advantage of the home game models and won with a whopping 23 under par at TPC River Highlands. We're joined by friend of the program Zac Blair (1:02:45), fresh off his T-2 finish, for his take on the course and what it's like competing in elevated purse events. We close with some of the rumblings and remaining unknowns around the PGA Tour and the potential deal with the Saudi PIF (1:37:30). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes. That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Expect anything different. Better than most. He's in gentlemen. Welcome back to the No Laying a Podcast slash live show. Sally here ready to talk KPMG women's PGA and travelers championship. TCS here. Hello, Mr. Tron Carter. Greetings. Greetings. Mule season is upon us. Mule season is upon us.

Didn't get any Ludwig updates in the chat today. I just realized that as we got to the travelers, but I'm sure we'll get into that. We saw his floor. I'm sure we'll get there. Big Randy is here. He is thrilled with everything that went on at the KPMG Women's PGA today. He loves the direction the women's golf and how it's being presented on television and how it's the future of being a golf fan. Hello, big Randy. How are you? Hello, hello. Happy to be here. Turned out to be a nice KPMG tournament. I got some thoughts. Otherwise, can't wait to get it into them. Summer time is officially here. And it is high noon SCN. And also means the limited edition high noon pool pack is back. It has peach. it has lime,

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So when it greets me, if I didn't have cases and cases of it in my garage, I would be shopping there very frequently for it. So we appreciate high-news sponsorship of the show and our live shows all year long. Randy Ruining-Yin has won the KPMG Women's PGA. She is out from underneath the rule of her, you know, very, very, very, very strict landlord. Janet Lindsay, you Lynn, however you would like to call her. And she has one of major championship at the age of 20. What's your reaction to what we witnessed today? I think first and foremost, this is a win for the renters, you know, I hand up. I know you guys

certainly aren't renters anymore. You're living the C-suite life, you're big shots, but today reminded people, sometimes the little man, the little woman can rise up and overcome the capitalistic landlord overlords. And so I congratulate Roon and Yen. In all sincerity, it was a hell of a performance. Bogey free today, we'll get into it, but 37 consecutive greens in regulation

to close the tournament for her. I'm guessing she's not a name. A lot of people know. I mean, certainly the LPGA diehards. Which point I end up here. We did an hour and a half long preview and I don't think we mentioned her name. So that's, yeah, that's on us as well here.

For sure. She, and that's only the fault of ours. That's no fault of hers. What I was getting ready to say is she's 20 years old. She's the same age as Rosang, the tie atidicum. She won earlier this year on the LPGA tour has, has been playing very well and now has a major championship. I think as everybody saw tons of game, very worthy winner,

I think it's another young talentic golfer that we're seeing emerge on the LPGA tour, which is fantastic for the future of the game. So I think, you know, is 20 young? We confirm that. I think we have to ask that question. I think we, I would still consider that to be quite young. Yes, it just you never know how long these runs are going to last for players.

And then I maybe it shouldn't have taken me until Sunday. And I, that may be a coverage take for me to like look up at the screen and be like, holy shit, what a golf swing. Like what a move. Incredible. Like lack of effort of getting that club, the club faced through the zone. Really great divot taker, which I, you know what, you know me, I love and always

respect somebody that takes really nice peltz. She hit as Justin Ray pointed out, and as you said, Randy, 37 straight greens to close out a major championship on a big test. Like, both of us are all, I think at one point was playing longer than TPC river Highlands was this week, which is sick. We can talk a little bit about that, but really, really tough test to golf. I really like the flow of the tournament, tough, tough. And then towards the end, there was a chance

to make runs today. And we saw a lot of runs happen. We got an exciting finish, a lot happening, maybe too much happening for the lack of cameras that they had out there and a little bit of confusion. What was going on very much near the end, but overall, a really good tournament. They got a little done dirty with the weather and kind of sucked a little bit of the crowd

energy out of it by the end of it, unfortunately. But nonetheless, it was a really good golf tournament. Yeah. Jins got some, sort of, banks of serious wins on good courses. I'll suspend my ball to throw a bit, that ball to throw played great, but one at Wilshire earlier this year and, you know, like very, very impressive, uh, dual, uh, wasn't, was that, was that she wanted, didn't, didn't she went to palace Verde? She wanted palace Verde. And you're, I don't blame you for getting confused there. TC because they flipped the court. They flipped, uh,

because Wilshire hosted a different tournament this year. Oh, they did. Yeah. Actually. So yeah, palas Verdes was probably more similar to Balters Raw as far as like the actual, you had to drive the ball well. You had to do all that. Uh, and well, T.C. she finished tied for fourth at Wilshire. There we go. So sure. Uh, Wilshire. Wilshire. Wilshire. Yeah. Wilshire is my local Denver muni that I like. Shout out to C. C. C. Sir, I try to keep us Dave in the running for memberships out there. After flaming the LACC members last week, he's got to keep his

options open. But no, just a couple of more notes on runin' in as Justin Ray pointed out, you know, he's spearheading this KPMG performance insight stuff. Runin' in Yen came into this week, foreign away the leader in shots gained T-degree on the LPGA tour at 2.64 per round. The next closest, Jin Young Co at 1.95. And then shots gained approach. She leading the tour coming into this week at 1.71.

Next closest, Jin Young co at 1.4. The relative weaknesses of her game had been putting. She was negative 1.07 shots, shots gained putting per round, which is not great. And just kind of right at like, neutrals the row shots gained around the green. So I think where she excelled, obviously hit the ball, excellent,

excellent iron play approach play and, you know, made enough putts or avoided enough three putts to take it home this weekend. I'll say to the final little three-hole stretch at Baltic Roll, it banged a little bit. That was a really intriguing stretch, really tough part three. Good left pin today was interesting to watch players try to go after it. You could sass so got bit by it. Missed too far left. Rose Zhang got bit by it. Missed too far left. And then the back to back. Par five finished with the Sahara Desert in on the 17th hole, unreachable, but a really fun front pin. And it was interesting to watch players attack that one. And no one seemed to be able to make any puts on that pin up front. And then

18 with the tee up in the proper spot. Risk reward off the tee a little bit in terms watch players attack that one and no one seemed to be able to make any puts on that pin up front. And then 18 with the tee up in the proper spot risk reward off the tee a little bit in terms of you drive it closer. I don't know if you needed to drive it close to the water, but a lot of water balls off the tee is always an interesting element. ZU Lynn ended up finishing at 602 shots back. Trow it in the water off the tee on the 72nd hole. And then watching running in missed the fairway on the right in the rough and then laid up

from a hundred, laid up to a hundred yards, hit a great wedge shot to 10 feet. And I don't know if they quite delivered on the moment that that putt was for the to win a major, but then calmly rolled in a 10 footer in the middle of the cup to win a major championship. Which shout out to our girl LC Lauren Cogland, refused, refused to give Rooninyan the the read on that put, you know, she just kind of misread it. I don't know if she hit like a little cut putt, but she was not going to she was not going to give her an easy read on that last one. They set it up a lot easier today. Like I couldn't quite put my finger on it. And maybe it was just because the

conditions were, you know, a little bit less spicy with, with the delay and all that. But like, there were a lot more low scores out there than there were yesterday or Friday for that matter. For sure, a lot more low scores, 264s, Carlota Segonda, who honestly has to be kicking herself a little bit. I mean, she, she had it to six under for the tournament with five holes to play, including both of those part fives, but couldn't make any birdies. Perine Delacore, also shout out to 64. T.C., I think it must be some combination of probably a little easier setup combined with, you know, just more moisture,. I was, I was thinking the same thing. But

then it's like, you look at Jin Young co who went backwards, you know, Leonna McGuire, really that whole final group was struggling. So guys, yardage was the same. It was 65, 33, which again, it was, it was not playing longer than River Highlands, which I was, somebody sent me a screenshot that may have been not, not very accurate. So I apologize for that misinformation earlier. But yeah, 65, 33, which is, I mean, they've never played it outside of 6500 yards the entire week. They never moved around. They moved around a little bit of stuff, but almost none of the, no, look at the Yardges day by day. They didn't look like they moved around a single T-box all week, which yeah,

I guess maybe a little more accessible pins, a little more fun, a adjacent pins today, but in reality it was just a little softer golf course and they could get after a little bit today. I was expecting a little bit more firework so I'm back to back closing, par five this week. I was too. That's maybe my one complaint was, 17 was just a three-shotter, which is fine.

I would have liked to have seen 18 a bit more, hey, with two really good shots, you can have a good eagle look. I think there was one eagle on 18 today, Lynn Grant, I saw proper player though. Yeah. From a bomb to a hell of a putt. I will say this for 17 and 18 being back to back part five, like 17 today playing 532, 18 playing 500 wet. Like you're not getting on 18. You're not getting any balls to like feed up from the green. They're all hidden three woods in like it just doesn't really set up for that. Which is funny because you saw you cassaso on 18. Oh my god. She I assume it was maybe three wood that she hid in, but it's a good thing. The bunker caught that because that thing was going to be 20 yards long in the green.

She was the only person I saw that was anywhere close to being able to fly it whole high. Rose, after Rose's drop, I mean, she flew it, she didn't fly it, but it ended up behind the green, tried to hit a decent ship to get out there and try to salvage it. But there are the only two. Lin's Paul was absolutely incredible. I know like the cameras don't justice, but that green is severely counted on the left hand side feeding all the way down to like the back right. And it's cool when that the front area is super firm because you can

get it to run and chase all the way back up to that right corner. But with the amount of water that they had, just wasn't going to happen. I liked how it played, right? It was not a gimmie. Everyone can get there. It took a really well executed tee shot and a well executed second shot. And it was, it was, it was, Birdie was an earned score on 18 today. There was not like it was a feast.

I kind of thought at one point, you know, I thought Rose needed to get to nine to win it. And that would have won by one. I thought more people would have gotten to eight, but it was not handing out birdies. like it was not a free crack giveaway. You could say so. Snuck up on everybody, especially the production crew. And I was stunned that she almost won this golf tournament, but had an awesome up and down from the left bunker, from the, you know, long bunker. I I probably 40 yard bunker shot down the hill to this slippery slide a little pin.

Uh, I need to get it up and down to maybe get into a playoff and did it. And, but, uh, ruining you and just came through in the end. It's a shame we don't have Neil here. Neal's, Neal's won a couple, uh, couple member guests at the straw. They, Neil has a plaque out there somewhere, I think. Him and Mr. Nicholas. Yes, I agree. I think beginning of the day, I would have said, I love how they've set up 17, 18, 18 specifically.

I think once we got to the back nine and seeing so many people kind of around the lead within a shot or two, I kept being like, ah, damn, it'd be really cool if Eagle was really a possibility on 18, but no way to know that. I think overall impressions though, I really like Baltic draw. I thought it was a great test. Again, banging on the strum, playing these courses that are part of the American golf landscape and hold such a lofty place.

It's wonderful that the women are getting there and playing. I think it was a course that there was such a fine line between being confident and aggressive and like playing offense versus getting a little bit on your back foot starting to be defensive and then almost you know, almost putting to avoid three puts. I thought that was kind of the dynamic at play all week. And it was just curious to see players going from one to the other. And, you know, Leon

McGuire looked like a totally different golfer today. I mean, she showed a little bits of signs yesterday on the back nine. But, man, she was, I'm guessing she was both out of gas and just could not get it going, but it looked like she was playing with no confidence from the get go. And she ended up at T8 and not that close to winning it, three shots back, but the Rose Zang run today was very real. I'm skipping down leaderboard a little bit here, TC to say it was a very serious buzz that was going on in Watching her make a run. She should goes out in 31

Thumbs over birdies the 11th hole almost birdies 12 a long par three hit it say absolute seed to the back left pin That just rolled past Didn't birdie there had a sloppy bogey on 13 which set her back turns right around and birdies 14 Had a good look on 15 couldn't cash it. And then the bogey on 16 really kind of sank her hopes there. And I had a good look again for birdie on 17 just missed it a little bit low. Hit it in the water off the tee on 18, but was able to scramble and make par after taking a drop.

So she did have her chances, man. She could have easily got it to 800, especially with those two par fives coming in. I know. Don't you think it was that put on 15? Like, if that goes, I think, I wonder if she hit the shot. She wanted to hit on 16. She missed left of that green, short-sighted herself in that bunker.

But I'm just curious if not getting the birdie on 15. She felt like she had to go at the flag to get to. Again, we were all saying, like, eight under, probably playoff, but maybe you got to get to nine. I just felt like, man, missing that put on 15 was in hindsight kind of what did her in. I think in hindsight too, some of the stuff from Friday, like coming in those last few holes in the big, double, like that's where she shot 74 on Friday. That was really where it seemed to get away. She wasn't as big, you know, like as big a part of the tournament as you would have expected going into Saturday.

She's going to post a lot of yellow Wikipedia. She's going to have a lot of yellow Wikipedia squares in her career. She's going to be in a round a lot of these. Like I don't know if she's going to win 13. I don't know if the projection change. I don't know if Neil wants to change his overrun her down to 12 now that she did. I don't know if he was caching this one. Lock's ticking. Yeah, counting this one, but it, uh, yeah, I don't know. We'll be waiting to see, but she's going to be around a lot of these. I don't think her odds are going to be much longer than they were.

She was 21 coming into this week. I think that I think those days are over. I guess long gone already. Uh, are you guys going to get a call some people out for their backdoor top 10s? So you mean you seem to love doing that with Tommy. So that's you doing that. That's the whole thing. Like you hate the backdoor top 10s and you flipped it on Tommy. Like don't put this on our top five for Tommy. We're trying to hold you to the same standards that you should be holding yourself. TC, come on, I expect a little bit more ingenuity there. TC, I think we got to, I think we got to do it to the

suite, the big suite in a Nord quiz. 66, 65 on the weekend after 74, 73. This started out. Yeah, true backdoor. And then I, I mean, Megan Kang, too. I mean, 67,, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean of this tournament than you probably did this week. I feel like I watched a ton of it. If you, if you, like if somebody would have asked you like today at like three p like when they restarted the golf, did Anonork West make the cut this week? What would your, what would your answer have been? I've been like, I don't know.

I did. I don't know. I don't think she did. The only thing I knew she, I knew she did only because I knew she shot 66 yesterday. I didn't see a single shot of hers yesterday. And I think I saw a few puts of hers today, but yeah, point taken. She was nowhere in the broadcast really.

Like I'm thinking about Megan Kang and I'm wondering if she gets down with the round of golf and it's like, man, I made an incredible run. I can't wait to go back and watch this on TV and just be like, her family would be like, yeah. I showed a couple of putts. Like, they went in, good job. Like really good job. They almost had a winner sneak up on them.

I don't know if we want to start hampsing him just now, but they almost had a winner completely sneak up on him. You know, we also have that three wood on AT and she'll be able to reach out one day. It wasn't the worst true. The worst three wood that we saw today. Sorry, it's that metal, but Megan's three wood was making. Megan's going to win one of these things soon.

Like I'm going to keep it's it's shocking to me that she hasn't yet. And you know, I know it's all like she's 25 and she's she's not young. It's not okay. Not. Can you not young. Not. Not tonight. But you know, like that's back to back top 10s and majors and and put like played well in two or three of them last year as well. So. Well, I'm going to give you a chance. Go down leaderboard here shortly. And we're going to talk of course some PGA tour golf here, but it's worth pointing out the weekend and week out on the PGA tour. The most popular driver

among the best players in the world is a title. The tour's favorite model is the TSR3. And while that may be true, the key to greater speed and accuracy looks different for every player. So whether you need to improve your spin control, your launch angle, impact point, all that stuff works together, right? This is definitely not something you should be self-diagnosing or trying to figure out on your own. I would consider myself a pretty relatively advanced level golfer.

And I have no business even setting whatever settings I would be setting on my own club. Like I don't change the setting on my club without consulting somebody or having some data in front of me to do it. It really is that specific, and it really will make that big of a difference. As I should have mentioned, a Titles Fitter can configure your TSR driver that delivers exactly what you need. The combination of Titles, unique Sure Fit system and four head designs from TSR1 all the way to TSR4, you need to be stepping up

to the tee with a driver, custom tune. So your swing is TC likes to say, after your TSR fitting, you'll feel like you're playing offense. I'm not gonna give you anything to add there. I played yesterday. I feel like I kind of validated. I've raised my floor. I shot 72 yesterday, double in the the pouring rain on the easy part five and then

three birdies coming in. And I'm like, you know what? I'm not afraid to go low anymore, guys. 1.7. Oh, yeah, I'm really getting popped from TC here, soon. I also played my third round of golf in eight weeks yesterday. And I hit 13 of 14 fairways. So I found a little something straight left arm is very straight down.

I'm a one point. I was at 1.9. I don't know what I went down to today. So you can head to tidalist.com to find a tidalist fitter near you. And I will turn it over to you. So you see to go down the leaderboard as far as you'd like to get. No, that's not true. You can go down the leaderboard a little bit here.

Any other performances you want to shout out specifically? A yaka furu-ey. Foot away. Did I say a crooked? No, you did not. I didn't. Foot away. No, foot away.

Think about putting the food away. Foot away. Nope. That's even worse. Food away. Foot away. Foot away. That's closer.

That's a good one. All right. 69, 66 on the weekend. T8. Guys, we got to talk about Jenny Shins. Pretty sure routine. She was also there at T8. That kind of took over most of the commercial free last 54 minutes. Hey, that's brutal. I hate, let me just say something nice about Jenny. Really enjoyed her overall. Just enjoy it. She seems like she had going on.

Yes, great attitude. Enjoyed, I mean, good swing. Enjoyed watching her play golf. But it's one of those things. It's like once you see something, you can't unsee it. Once you hear something, you can't unhear it. And once I kind of got sucked into her pre-shot routine, it started to annoy me a little bit.

Do you know how hard it is to get put on the clock when you're in contention on the final round of a major? Yeah. I wonder how much that plays, that final group just had absolutely no juice. Yeah, she was struggling, grinding out there, didn't really do anything outside of the birdie to start out around, but reached out for comment, of course.

She knows this, she knows this is an issue. She's trying to work on it, but man, it was really bad because for ever watching her round, it felt like one putt's gonna drop and then she's going to be right back You know obviously the bogeon 15 took her out of it, but like Man she played really really good golf. She should not be taking that long though. It's fucking painful That final three ball combined for four birdies

That's tough. Yeah, I was really disappointed in Leona like you know like we don't need to talk about Perine Delacor's Final round 64 didn't didn't get her in the top 10, T 11 there. Uh, Leona, this sucks. Let me, yeah, sorry, go ahead, T C. Oh, I was just shocked. Like that's like, I, I, I, I hold Leona up as a killer. Yes. Like I, that's how I view her because of her soul, hum cup performance and all of that. Like I've seen her kill up close and how she carries herself too. And she had different look on her face by the end of today. I mean, I know getting beat down a little bit will do that to you, but it was not the same stride in her step.

And I know she won last week in fatigue was probably probably a factor and cited often on the broadcast. I don't disagree with that. Like that's part of the reason why I picked her not to win this week was like, yeah, it's tough to go back to back. Like that's an emotional, a lot of emotional energy spent last week rolling into this and holding the lead for so long this week. It was, I honestly wasn't that surprised. And I don't mean that was a slight to her at all. I think that's just a big ask. It's also got to be exhausting like when the weather sucks. And you don't know what time you're going out and you're getting delayed and you're going out earlier than expected and all that. I'd be remiss if

we didn't shout out Stephanie Meadow as well. She stuck around and like, you know, finished T3. I mean, very good. We mentioned it in passing. She had a chance. She needed to eagle the 18th hole to get into a playoff and hit the fairway on 18 and cold topped it on top of the water. Did not go into the water, skipped off the water and cleared the fairway on 18 and cold topped it on top of the water, did not go into the water, skipped off the water and cleared the pond, which was sick. It was like a good five skipper. I guess she had absolutely nukah three would to get there and just this side, I'm going to go for whatever, which I will support. We're not making fun of it. But it was well, which call back to Albein Valensweil at the Chevron in a somewhat similar position, more carryover

water. But Albein laid up, took her nice top five finish. Stephanie was going for it. So I respect that. I want to shout out Grace Kim. She's playing really, really good golf this season and, you know, on the heels of her, her win in Hawaii at the low, T, uh, 14th, cleared 147,000 dollars. That's a big check. 10 million bucks this week. Shout out to KPMG, continuing to just keep one-uping themselves in terms of, uh, you know, I don't know what their competition is for this purse. It's, it's the other majors, but they're just continuing to top everyone else in, in supporting women's golf, buying extra TV hours, which we'll get into and all that. But yeah, I'm shout KPMG for that because the next name I think you're probably going to get

to is Lauren Cogland, who made 125K for her. Listen, I wasn't, you know what, I was going to shout out Brooke Henderson first, I was going to shout out Alice and Corpus. And then yes. Okay, now you're just literally reading names on the on the let's go. We got to pick out some names here. TC, good week or disappointing week for disappointing week. I I mean she she got 67. She was the first round leader You know and then back and then backed up with a 74 on on Friday. So you know strong finish, but I think Part of what we talked about a couple weeks ago with Brooke though is like Like you want to see how higher floor out of her right and I think a T15 and a majors Well, I'm I'm not begrudging that. I think that's progress.

I don't want to argue she has the floor. I have concerns about the top end. And I know that silly. She's won two majors, yada, yada, yada. But I don't know. She doesn't, she doesn't quite do it for me. She doesn't instill confidence that you have more confidence in Nelly or Brooke. That's a good question. Probably Nelly. Yeah, definitely Nelly. I'd like to congratulate Lauren for not once, but twice making it into the six figures of pay within from KPMG, something in nine years that I failed to do even once. So I want to congratulate her for cleaning up at this championship for back-to-back seasons. Yeah, 125K. And really hung tough today. I think you bogeyed the first hole, put a party the second.

I was talking to him one of the earlier, she's like, yeah, like that rain delay, like was a big asset for me. Like that allowed me to really, you know, be able to kind of go in, hit the reset button, and, you know, do better. So, yeah, proud of her for sticking around and shooting 72 when it looked like it could have been at 76 today.

I'd say on our Friday show, we put, I think almost everyone picked either Jin Young, Koeh or Minji lead a win this championship. And they both finished an tie for 20th. Minji went 75 69. Jin Young went 69 73 on the weekend and vacated the premises, which makes the, the performances the very top stand out a little bit more. Just knowing that the two players of that caliber absolutely did not get it done this weekend.

I was going to say hitters only at the T20. Yeah. You joke him. Lynn Grant, Minjuli, Jinyunco. Like, Paula. Guys, I, I, I don't think I'm quite ready to officially announce this, but look for it at the conclusion of US Open Week, if need be. Uh-oh.

Who you put on notice? Jinyunco. Fuck yeah, Randy. So Tisey caught her back in the preview. I said, that's disrespectful to Genie on co. So disappointing when seemingly everybody's making a move for the world number one to go backwards. I can't have it. I can't stand. I can't stand by and watch that. She hasn't won a major since 2019. She's on notice.

She's on notice through the end of 2023. And also, she has the two kind of fake majors. She's won the Chevron, which was the A&A and the Evion. Like I, those count if you've won, like they will all count retroactively if you've won one of the real majors. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so that's Gabby Ruffles T24.

I just want to take a victory lap on that one. You know, tried to warn y'all. Gabby C24 is coming. Gabby's got game. You know, Gabby Rhymes, we have Megan Kang where there's just something where when things get tough, I feel like she's got the type of game. Yeah. She's an athlete.

She's a grinder. I dig it. Angel Yen kind of faded a little bit Saturday, but closed out strong. Mel Reed, a Saturday, 77, like set her, otherwise she'd have been in the hunt in this championship. Liam Pace, she did not stick around as we had hoped. The inability models weren't more. One more name. You see, and then we got to move on here, bud. Uh,

Tuesday. Why is there so many good ones? I know. We got a lot to get to tonight. Uh, tough, tough day for Alexa panel. T 61, 5178. She's someone who I'm, I'm keen to see what her career looks like the straight from you know high school to To absent an LP Gator

The yeah, so I saw you feel allowing tough tough weekend for three of the rookies Pano as TC mentioned Lucy Lee had a very tough weekend 78 78 and Selene Borga went 74 75 75, which none of them surprising. You know, certainly Selene had never been in contention at a major like this. But yeah, tough, tough weekend for the rookies. Hopefully they all learn from it. Well, the main event I want to turn it over to is it's time to let Randy cook on on hamster damn because I think you have maybe a thought or two about what has went down this past week. I do let me real quick you got real quick yet. You go ahead. You go. Same thing going on as genuine co is one that when the Evian won the Chevron or the ANA.

Does she need to validate as well? I would totally agree with that. I'm just throwing it out there. It could be it could be a co problem. It could be anybody last name co. It's on notice at the end of this year. Yeah, or quarter like that. Co, I mean, co, co, Florida, or

or at least now he's one of real major. That's that's that's the defense. I'll put up there. I ran it. Yeah. coverage. You guys, you guys tell me if I'm off base. I just, I had an issue with a few things, a few things upset me. The first thing that upset me was, and if you listen to the Friday show, we're probably going to repeat some of that, but not everyone listened to our, our cut show probably on Friday. I just just wanna get that disclaimer out there. But Rani, please cook.

Well, the thing that upset me today was, you have the final round of a major on peacock, which on the surface, what's the problem, Randy? Well, here's my problem, okay? They move the T times up even earlier today, which means less time that this tournament and the meat of the tournament

is gonna be on network television on NBC. So we're gonna put everything on peacock, which is a streaming service. You know, some people, if you have certain cable, you get it, other people you have to pay to access it. And which, if I can consult a weatherman quickly here, TC late June, what's, what do you think? 40% chance, 30, 40% chance when you plan this event that there's going to be weather delay of some point, especially at Baltas roll.

We know the history of Baltas roll. But like not, not unforeseen weather delay, right? Like this is not a thing that is a rarity in golf of like moving teatimes up because that's a fallback that they're going to have of well, we move the teatimes blah, blah, blah, you don't understand contracts, blah, blah, blah. But please go ahead. But I just want to set that up like this is not an outrageous event that happened. Let me just just nut tap peacock a little bit here too. It's one of the worst user interfaces of all time. That's actually gotten better.

I don't even, they've got the collapsible window now, shorter, they've gotten it closer, I would say. That's not, that's not my beef. I'm sorry, TC, I actually have to stand up for them on that one. I'll stand up for the crowd. Go ahead, Rady. Okay, so this is a women's major. I'd say one of like the three quote unquote real ones. Okay. It's it's got cachet. It's at Boltz is

all like I said earlier in the show, you know, a lofty national historic landmark of a golf course. We have Rose Zhang in contention. And it just, it struck me that NBC has owns a property called golf channel, which they've shortened to golf uppercase golf. which we all pay for through our various cable subscriptions anyway. Okay. Rainy, there must have been something fantastic on golf channel to preempt this women's major. Major, you know, are you Sunday? Sunday, final round major. Again, not like people out of it teeing off. They move the T times up, meaning, you know, we saw half of the leaders rounds on peacock before the weather delay. It would have been more than that. Had the weather delay not come around. So we're talking about essentially the front nine for the whole tournament is on peacock.

And I'm out of curiosity. I'm like, what's on golf channel? It's golf central pregame. You know, you got Brandyl in the studio, apparently trying to explain what aim point is. I go, that's interesting. I wonder what's on NBC. Maybe it's, you know, one of their Sunday political shows.

I look up what's on NBC. It's info-mershals. So the decision has been made and granted. My frustration stems from, you know, you'll read about occasionally they bring together, you know, the leaders in golf and they'll do these summits where they kind of all just pat each other on the back and part of that are certain NBC sports executives. Saw the Uriamp Molly, TCR guy, Mayor Pete Bavakua going to South Bend.

And you know, they're so quick to congratulate themselves on what they're doing for the women's game. You know, we're, oh my God, we are, we are the leaders in elevating the women's game. And it just occurs to me, how could today, final round of one of your three best events on the calendar? How can that at least not go on golf channel?

Like I have people who are very casual golf fans, they know the name Rose Zhang, which listen, for women's golf to have somebody that people know their name. And for that person to conceivably be in the hunt with a shot today, people are seeking that out. They want to know what it's all about. And it's, Peacock is just such a barrier to get casual fans into the women's game, to show off the women's game, to show off what really is like the best of the women's game. Again, today at Bal Again, today at Bal

Toshra, all the course was great. You know, it was, it was a fine line between birdies and bogies. It just is such a missed opportunity. And I'm so sick of it in light of, you know, you'll hear people just bragging about what they're doing for the women's game. And you know, we've almost double coverage this year. Well, yeah, most of that's on peacock, though. And that, frankly, it kind of sucks. Well, yeah, most of that's on peacock though. And that frankly,

it kind of sucks. And to not at least bump golf channel programming this morning for the final round of a women's major, it just, I don't know, it just pisses me off. But again, I might be off base. I'm curious, if I'm crazy, if you guys feel similarly, I don't know. It's like all decisions that it seems like when it comes to NBC golf channel and that whole family is like on a per like event like cold rational basis of like profit and loss for this event. Like no, we're not putting another camera out there. Randy, like no, we're not adding another analyst out there. No, we're not having like camera out there. Randy, like, no, we're not adding another analyst out there. No, we're not having like multiple crews.

We can rotate in for all these coverage windows. Like, no, we're not like time. Yeah, no, we're not going to actually like do. And why would we, why would we, we're doing the absolute bare minimum that we're required to do, not barely even that sometimes. And like, that's what you're going to get because we've bought the rights we can do whatever we want with it. Why would we do more than the absolute bare minimum of that?

And that's the part that frustrates me is the hope I've lost, the things are ever going to change. I remember looking at the future of the major venues for the women's events and being like, all right, we're going to have some juice going on these things. Finally, it's time. I know we've been kind of evangelizing this stuff for about five years now because we're genuinely intrigued by the ladies game. And like, man, we got one of the biggest audiences you could possibly, we have one of the biggest audiences in golf of any media company. And like it's still hard to get people fired up for the women's game because a lot of the reason being like they're just a bare minimum front of the office presentation

of how to watch it. Like honestly, I feel a little guilty like pointing people towards it at times. Like I felt really dumb today tweeting out like I assumed I made the assumption that the commercial free final hour would have been moved up because the t times got moved up and I sent people there because they tweeted out like the commercial free final hour is coming. I was like, okay, like everyone gets to NBC now because it's finally the commercial load that destroys your soul is over. And it kept going. It just kept going.

And they didn't start the commercial free part until the leaders were basically on 16, maybe even 17. And the final group, I think, was on 15 at that point. And I just feel like an idiot sometimes. So like recommending this to people because golf is already hard enough to watch on TV and then they just mail it in on the women's side and I just don't see it getting any better

as long as NBC has the rights. I think that's right. A few things to react to there. So people tweeting me, Randy, there's no juice. This is the final round of a major. There's no juice. And listen, we're the crowds at Balterstraw. Great. Like to my eyes and my ears, like they weren't great. You know, we had KC on the ground. And I think the storm caused a bit of a mass exodus. They actually flew in some of the members from LACC. Yeah. Christ. So say what's what about the members of LACC, but they showed up for their

event. The members of both of us are all did not. So it starts a little bit there, you know, the crowds admittedly weren't great, which sucks. You know, I wish I had a way to fix that, just not a ton of juice. But then it's just compounded solid to to your point, by what I sense is always, I'm trying to think, once the last time you've tuned into a women's broadcast and felt like real energy anywhere out of like the broadcast booth, and I hate kind of poking at Dan Hicks,

and I think Morgan Pressle is good. Yeah, Morgan's improved drastically your returner way. Yeah. Like I like the people, but man, like you said, when Roon and Yin has like an eight foot putt to win a major as a 20-year-old, that's a big moment. And it just, it consistently, when I watch the telecasts, I just never quite feel like they make the moment as big as I think it should be and as big as it deserves to be. And that rubs me the wrong way.

And then you just compound again, like I talk about, they just, no, I think you said, I think we got like a little intro essay package, maybe at one point at the start of NBC, but think about all the men's majors that they do, and think about everything that's added around the broadcast to just elevate the feel and the sense of like this is a big event. And now think about like the lack of really all of that at a women's event, right? From, you know,

setting up the most important shots of the tournament, like, you know, how are you going to play this whole? Here are the factors that play. Here's what needs to be considered. Here's a cloak close up of Rooning Yens ball in the rough off of her drive on 18. There's just none of that. And so at the end of the day, like it's just such a obviously inferior product that is being trotted out. And I just think it sucks because I'm of the belief that if an investment was made into the women's game and if in fact a minimum it was brought up

to days like today, a final round major, if the presentation was on par with what we see for the men's majors, like it's good golf, it's exciting golf, people will tune in. Like you can, I believe you can make money off of broadcasting women's golf. I just feel like NBC specifically is in this cycle where it's like, well, it's a shitty product.

So not many people watch it. So therefore, we're not going to invest in it. And it's just this doom loop that they're in. And it sucks. Like sometimes I feel like I feel like an idiot sometimes because I want to get people into the women's game. I'm like, it's so damn hard sometimes to be a fan of women's golf. And it just sucks and it shouldn't be like that.

And to your point, Randy, at a point we've made many, many times over the years on this, is like, all right, they don't hit it as far as the men. But that's pretty much where the lack of comparison stop, right? It is 100% not about the talent level. That's not what I can't really. I don't turn the WNBA. I don't watch the WNBA, right? But I don't think it does very well.

Rating's wise, it's subsidized by the NBA. I can understand why people don't find that an appealing product. You're also not a big basketball guy, though. I don't know. You're not tuning in for every single NBA game. Like that's where the compare components and stop. And I think we can always go back to like tennis. And I think that's what I was getting to. If you'll let me finish Cody. Come on. Let me cook. We let big cook here was like, I don't think the WNBA does great. I think it, you know, has the subsidy. But I look at like women's tennis. women's tennis. And the per sizes are what,

you pointed this out once, or any of the winner of the Australian opening, it's like five million bucks or something on the women's side. The interest level and the marketing, it's a marketing thing with the interest level around women's tennis. Despite the fact that a lot of the top men

would beat the top women in the same sport, the same way it would work with golf. The interest level seems to be there. And I don't, I'm not an expert in marketing, but I don't understand why golf has made almost no progress on the women's front. I know it's not a talent issue because they tellivize the Little League World Series. Like give me a fucking great way. Okay.

Think about the investment they've made in the Little League World Series. To your point about tennis, when have you ever turned on a, uh, uh, with a grand slam broadcast of a women's tennis match in, and even notice one thing different. If it would be for a men's broadcast, they're the exact same. I think it's, yeah. I think you can say that about that. That's a problem. I absolutely don't think you can say that about that.

Right, and I think there's something too where like going back to product, I think in my mind, interesting stuff tends to happen in women's golf down the stretch. From time to time, like there's more variables. There's more, not everything is completely optimized, right? Like you're gonna have weird shots,

you're gonna have that Stephanie Meadow, you know, a skipper today, like you're gonna have, like and that to me is interesting. What, like, most frustrating thing for me when I tune into a golf tournament, mens or women's is when I feel like the outcome is already figured out, right? It's like, oh, yeah, like clearly, like he's he's not going to make two doubles

coming in. It was like Keegan today. Like, there's nothing that Keegan's going to do with a foreshot leader, whatever, where I feel like women's wise, there's, there's like, whether it was Hawaii this year or the, or both the LA events, like there's, there's good finishes. I think the finishes are like really, really interesting and they're topsy-turvy and there's people moving all around the leaderboard. Cause it's, yeah, it's not as optimized. It's not as like, there's more chance.

There's more, you know, like, and it comes back to swing speed. And, you know, that stuff is allowed to happen, you know. Which is, what brings like wondering, I've been wondering this out loud all week. Cause like, do we have the distance thing totally backwards? And that like, all right, the women's game is not ruined by distance at all. Like there is a ton of more variables, like you're mentioning TC yet, the interest level is way lower. And like there's a

probably a million other factors and it can't be reduced to to that specifically. But it's like, I don't think driving distance is the answer, that's not what I'm saying, but it's hard to like point and be like, all right, roll back the ball over here guys, because it's gonna make it more like the women's game. Let's like, well, man, like people aren't really paying attention here

in it, just so. I think on the crowd thing too, I tend to think that go into these major metropolitan areas for both men and women is like the wrong move. I think especially in the women's game, like US women's open is going to landcaster next year. That's going to be awesome. Going to a completely underserved golf market in the Pacific Northwest next year with

the KPMG going to Sahali, right? Like, when the Soulheim Cup was in Iowa, going to places that are starved for great professional golf, I think is something that they need to lean into, just like they need to lean into going to places that are too short for the men, you know, to play at now. And that's, that's you, the golf fan speaking TC and I agree with you. I think it comes down to like KPMG's putting up a massive check. Like, yeah, they want to go over. They can go host their clients, right?

The answer is almost always like the money. That's what's super like deflating. But like, yeah, teacher, I have a question. I have a question real quick. Why the fuck does KPMG have to put up any money? Why up until in 2007, we want it, we always go back to tennis and comparing it.

In 2007, the leading grand slam, so every grand slam on the tennis schedule said, we're gonna have equal prize money for men and women. Why in the world does the KPMG have to put up money for a PGA championship? Where is the PGA of American all this? Why is it not equal to the men's major? Where, like, the USGA has done amazing things? Why is it not equal to the men's major? The USGA has done

amazing things with the US women's open. There's a huge purse there. You're going to see it's going to be a completely different coverage package because of it. I guess what I'm saying for both the Women's Open Championship, the PGA Championship, the Women's PGA Championship, and the US Open and the US women's open, like why did the women have to go to a sponsor? They're forced to do it. I mean, you have to do that too. Why is this to be fair with the program?

Or with the other thing? But like, where I understand a lot of this right now falls on NBC because there's a ton of easy shit that they can do, like, and props to CalA and props to KPMG for buying this extra airtime. But there's a ton of easy shit that they can do. And props to CalA, and props to KPMG for buying this extra airtime. But there's normal routine things that make majors elevated outside of entry music

and entry segments and essays and everything else like that. But like, where the fuck is life from? Even if it's not the normal life from crew, why send somebody, have fucking grant and Tom like sit there and do live from, even if it's only 30 minutes and have the same thing on the, on the back end of it, like do something to make it feel elevated NBC. They tried to do that with like a golf central on location thing.

And I'm not sure if it was just because of the weather, but like, it looked like they were in a broom closet. I mean, it was, it was, it was was shocking. That was on Thursday or Friday. I remember tuning in for that. It was kind of like where they put them during the players. Balls just were all as one of the largest clubhouses I've ever been in my life. Like you're telling me that there's not a single spot that they could go. But that's the little thing. And I understand they did like an hour of call central pregame and everything. And that's great. But like, that's just another thing. And I understand they did like an hour of called Central Pre-Game and everything. And that's great.

But like, that's just another studio show that I can watch on Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday. Like do something to make it feel like that. And I would say a lot of this goes back to the PJ of America, the USGA. Like if this is the route that we wanna go and you wanna talk about like how it's, you know, we're all in this together,

then these the large organizations need to step up and say, here we are. We're going to do this. It will be equal on both sides. And I understand, even if you go down and look at like professional tennis, there's a huge difference between normal tour stuff. And that's where the LPGA and the PGA tour and like, there are different sourcings come in. I understand that. But these are the major fucking golf championships where they're ran by the organizations that control all of golf. Like why are we not holding their feet to the fire

and asking them, like where the fuck is the equality at here guys? Where I'm sorry, but like Suzy Waley, you are the president of the PGA of America. For two years. For two years. And we wanna talk about equality and we're on board. We're the ones who are like, we are supporting this with you.

We want to help. We will want to tear our fucking services for this. But like, where's the change at? The RNA, like, wasn't even involved in the women's open. It wasn't a major. Yeah. Yeah. Like, they said that on the broadcast.

It was like, what? It's, it's okay. Yeah. Like, for sure. That's what I was like, I was like, I'll tell you a bit. It's, it's, it's Cody, you're exactly right. And I'm sure some people are like, oh, ratings ratings, you know, it's circular. I'm sure that, I'm sure that tennis grand slams, I'm sure they negotiate on behalf of both events.

And, and that's, you know, they, they build in the purses through their negotiation with both events. PJ have America. Why can't you do that? USGA, why can't you do that? It just, and, yes, sorry, back to the point of like, well, nobody has ever really even tried to invest in women's golf. So we don't really even know, right? It's like, oh, yeah, this like, shittiest product isn't the most popular. Big shock there.

Like what if we tried to do things a little differently? Quick one. But Cody, yeah, quick. What do you think? So 2014 US women's open was at Pinehurst the week after the 2014 US men's open. What do you think the rating difference was between 2013 US women's open and 2014? I just looked this up. I double. 92% higher, drafting off the pioneers from the week before. Yeah. And they just like a band, all they get is a band in that. Like, well, they did a great job promoting that too. I will say, plus I think I made 10 grand

that month or that week for renting out my house. So thank you for everything. Thank you. Cody, those congratulations. If I may a little bit further, Cody, you said about like the intro essays. And I mean, we're not even talking about the lack of streaming options, right? Like there's no way I can go onto PGA or ESPN or LPGA or Pcock and watch like a feature group,

all 18 holes, like I can at these other majors, right? They're putting the whole broadcast on streaming, but they don't have a built out streaming platform for feature groups, featured holes on the range. There's none of that. Even the television coverage this week, you'll notice it's essentially feature groups, which if you go to the LPGA Instagram, they'll tell you what feature groups they are at the start of the week. They have just enough cameras to kind of cover, you

know, four groups in the morning wave, four groups in the afternoon wave. And besides that, you're getting tower shots of a lot of people putting in a few approach shots. It's just such a scaled down bare bones operation. It just cannot be underlined or highlighted enough that the lack of investment taking place in the women's game. It's almost essentially a corn fairy tour broadcast. As we, I think we could go hours on this, but I'm going to, I'm going gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna say we've said what we can and we're gonna, we're gonna move on from this.

We have, and I do want to say Dan Hicks, double clutching when he said a commercial free final stands instead of hour was just chefs kids. Thank you for that radio. And waiting, waiting until the, the tournament is basically already already decided to do said, you know, commercial free, which also is like bought like they sold that so Cali bought that which shout out to Cali for supporting that. Listen, I hope they pray for it here. Yeah, I have. But that's not like an NBC like you don't get to toe. You don't get to brag about that. Somebody paid for that. Like that's something you sold. So that's what I don't understand.

It's like, I know we started with this, but they're patting themselves on their back for doing all this, but like they did, it's not like they did anything. They, they made money off of it. No, I asked somebody in the know, I was like, why is there a coverage gap? The first couple of days between golf channel and peacock in, in the afternoon, they say, well, every additional hour we're on costs a huge chunk of cash. So NBC, it's not an outlet of cash for NBC. And so it's a matter of if KPMG's willing to pony up more money to buy more hours. And shout out to all the people that will reply like, duh, it's a business man.

It's like, man, like you have some, you have some rights here as a fan. Like, you have a standing, you have a standing here as a stakeholder to be like upset about the game kind of being held hostage, right? Like, I think it, I don't know, it's, you know, they suck at covering the game, renounce the rights, let other people try it. They announced commercial for you.

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Who you rooting for out of those two. I was rooting for Keegan. I mean, I was rooting for like the field to rise up, but I mean, Keegan, he wasn't gonna fritter that thing away. He's by far the lesser of two evils. You know, I'm not a Keegan guy. I can't stand it like watching him.

He gives me an anxiety. All of it. Take it all away. That said, like the people of New England show out for this event. And it's a pretty big, you know, like travelers does a great job with it. I like TPC River Highlands. It's a cool winter for them. And, you know, there's no ifsans or butts about it. I can put my objective hat on and say, all right, that's a good winner and a much better winner than I can't let it would have been. This is way more rational than I was expecting. I did not see this coming.

Do you see if you got soft on us here? I've gone woke. These woke. These woke. So I only have one question for you guys. As Keegan unpacked that suitcase from 2012 Ryder Cup at Medina. I hope he makes it on the Ryder Cup team because he's got to be a terrible course fit. Why do you say that?

Why do you say that? I don't know. I assume you're like, you're going to have to hit fairways and, you know, I think it's just like good drivers will be a course fit there. I think I'm, I need to do a little ride up on this. It's not, again, it's not the golf national. It's not like strictly driving accuracy. It is like driving distance and accuracy. It's like, it's, I need to dive in that a little bit more, but I don't think you'd be a bad course fit. But I also don't think this play is quite risen to the level of deserving a spot on the team necessarily. He's seven in the points now. I totally, I'm totally

down to like, let's take stock of this as we get closer to it to see how this, how this plays out because it's not making it at this point. Like, they got, they could choose in between a lot of good options right now. But like if I get I don't know his numbers don't like scream it. It's not quite like the level of rise like the wind him Clark has had throwing. I again, I throw out the winds like I don't care really what you one. It's how good a guy are you beaten dudes on a consistent basis? He can like he is a candidate for one of the bottom spots, I would say, but it does not rise to the top of that with that performance this week.

Because again, the golf course they're gonna play is very different than this one. I mean, it's all about rough. And this was, I don't know what the hell happened at River Highlands this week, but man, it was just an all out onslaught. And it was honestly tough to fall and watch. Tough to get hyped for, just watching dude

sprint out that hard. It's tough to square like that TV, like just watching that on TV and having been to this tournament a couple times, like I like this golf course. I like it. I think I do too. It's like the anti TPC course. It's like a real, it's like an old classic golf course and there's some really interesting fun shots down the stretch. There's, there's some stuff that probably needs to be touched up at this point and they could probably add some yardage in spots, but it's just so depressing

when you see like, dude sitting lob wedge into 18, which is like used to be one of the better finishing holes on tour. It just kind of dumbs things down a little bit. This felt a little bit to me. I forget what year it was, maybe like 2011, the waste management. What was the year that Phil shot 59 and a half, uh, uh, flipped out any, he went out and shot like 30 under par and won the tournament and it was like, all right. Yeah. Time to redo this golf

course. Like time to time to change it up for PGA tour. But that's a little bit like what this year felt like. I mean, it's like, it's like, you know, it's similar to like what Padre said about LACC, right? Like, bank greens and smooth bank greens, guys are gonna go a million under par because they're making every pot, you know, which credits them. But, you know, like it's,

it's also cool to see like, I guess a leaderboard like that, there's all sorts of variety up there, right? You got it. Yeah, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, sorts of variety up there, right? You got it. Yeah. It's this is the, this is the designated event for the mules because our boy, Zach Blair, cashed a $1.8,000, $1.78 million check for a T2 finish.

This week's travelers, he needed 271 points or needs 271 points playing on the medical exemption to wrap up his PGA tour card. I think you got 245, I believe we've heard for this T2 finish, but an enormous, enormous weekend for ZB shot 68, 62 again, to make so much money. The comfort stations at the tree farm are going to be absolutely fire after this cash. I would have to imagine. Man, it was so fun watching Cantler. Just hand money back to Zach the last three holes,

that three thought on 18, the bogey on, I think 16. I was like, oh, there's another 300 K for Zach, and there's another 400 K for Zach, the light full. Hey, did it for guys, I got a question. Have we been saying Chez wrong the whole time? Is it Chez? Because that's what Faxon calls it. And I think we Have we been saying Chez wrong the whole time? Is it Chez? Because that's what Faxon calls it. And I think we might have been saying it wrong. The whole either he's saying it wrong or we've been saying it wrong the whole time. How about

Chez going to the cheesecake factory? That broke my heart a little bit. I thought you be a man, a man of more culture than that. But watch the video circulating on Twitter this week. If you didn't see it. Thanks to the trackers. Yeah, the tracker was all over watching, watching his own round on the replay while sitting at the bar at the Cheesecake Factory on Saturday night. But man, bad, one too many cheesecakes there because he did not put up a good, fine, around unfortunately, 71. I think one of my favorite tidbits of this week was Andrew Putnam tied for 45th shot

in the 60s every single day. It's crazy. It's tough. It's golf broken. It's just crazy where you got like Keegan, Scotty, Rory, and then you feel like ZB, Chess, and Brian Harmon. Danny McCarthy up there too. Lee Harvey Oswald, what got out right now to a 60 65 on the first two days, then finished finished horribly shooting 70 67 to fall all

the way back to T7 after taking the 36 hole lead. It was tough. But we got it before we move on, we got to somebody that that cashed a big check, I think is willing to give us a few minutes of his time, if you'll allow allow it here Randy, but I think we got him looks like he's in transport right now. Mr. ZB, what are you going to do with your money, man? Seki. Yeah, man. Yeah, we're trying to figure it out right now.

You had just an epic, epic preparation for this week. Wingedfoot, Eastward hoe, fishers, fishers, trifecta, instead of playing practice rounds, that's delightful. Tell us about that. I mean, I used to kind of do it a little bit and then kind of got away from it. And I played those, you know, those three days

and I messaged one of my friends and I was like, I'm not going to guarantee that I'm going to play good, but I'm really excited to play golf. I kind of stayed away from the circus out there. It was fun to go play some cold places and fill the tank out for sure. What is it about TPC River Highlands that can make it so that you and Rory are both contending for the same title. Like there's so much variety on that leaderboard and you know, you're one of the shorter players out there.

Like what is it that you think kind of brings everybody together? I mean, the course is pretty short, especially, you know, this week it was playing fairly firm, like the fairways will run and out before it rained on Friday night because Saturday is getting pretty bouncy out there. So, you know, probably taking driver out of some of their hands, more often than not, I think, you know, they're probably not hitting driver. One, they're probably not hitting it on two. Some of them hit it on three. They kind of blow it over the corner on four. hit it on three, they kind of blow it over the corner on four. You know, they're probably not hitting it on seven and now,

no, that been in 12 and, you know, they don't hit a lot. And I was hit driver a lot and I was hitting good. So that's a nice little equalizer for sure. Zach, did you get that hat in the Fisher's Island Pro Shop this week? What's that logo up there? Zach, did you get that hat in the Fisher's Island Pro Shop this week? What's that logo up there? I did. I did. This is a, I, I, I, I did purchase that. That's cool, man.

What a thrill for you to get in the play a couple of top one or a trio of top 100s. Yeah. No, it was, it was awesome. You know, good weather, good golf courses, good people. Again, got to stay away from the depth march out there on Tuesday. It was crazy. We had emailed somebody about going to play fishers on that like Monday night and we were like, it's like it's pretty late. We emailed the person that really late. We're like, maybe we'll see an email, you know, back tomorrow morning early. never saw anything. And we're like, well, we'll just head out to the golf course, went out, hit a couple of pods, hit a couple of drives,

walked over to the 10th tee, Justin Thomas was over there, pulled out my phone, got the email, and we were like, yeah, we gotta go. And we took off. CB, at what point at this event? Are you? Does it hit you? The, at what point is it happened early in the week? Or does it happen at some point today?

We're like, Oh, shit, this is an elevated purse this week. Like, does that affect anything coming in down the stretch? You had to know you had to be thinking a little bit about dollar bills on that back night. Eagle birdie birdie on this tear. You had to be thinking about that. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, like going into the week, not really,

you know, you're just kind of trying to play good. Obviously got off to a good start on Thursday and Friday, which was fine. Then, you know, played fine on Saturday, but, you know, fell down the lead a more to the bit, but got off to a really good start, you know, today, birdie birdie on one and two. It was kind of like, okay, you know, maybe, maybe we can get after it today and then then gave a few back. But definitely, you know, like the, the ego on 13, birdie on 14, it was kind of like, all right, it's getting expensive,

you know, coming down the stretch. And then on that, make the, make the birdie on 15 and 16 and it's kind of like, hey, these are like, million dollar pots coming in, you know, if we can's kind of like, hey, these are like million dollar pots coming in, you know, if we can make one of these, I kind of felt like I saw where I was on the leaderboard and it got super lucky, obviously, you know, that that's people kind of screwed up coming in for me. And I knew on 17 and 18, I told my caddy I was kind of like, yeah, these are like, if we could make one,

there is a million dollar pot. And all the points are obviously big and everything like that. At the same time, I was like, also like, please like, don't three or four pot, don't edit in the water on 17. Like, don't plug it in the bunker on 18. It was all kind of, it was moving pretty fast, but you know, could steer the ship home.

So it was wish, wish one more would have fallen. But how much of a weight off your shoulders is it knowing like you're out of major medical, kind of fighting back to form and takes pressure off of your summer and fall quite a bit, I imagine. Yeah, I mean, it would have been nice to lock it up. I think the solo second would have done it. But in a position now, at least, to just go have a couple of

solid weeks, hopefully go up to the future. Take care of business. But I think it puts me in a spot where I can at least play out of the 126 to 150 throughout the rest of the year. So I can go kind of play out as many events as I want. But at the same time, I started on like the, you know, at the start of this season. So I was kind of running off this season's point totals too. So I've kind of got two different ones that are probably going to be fairly similar in terms of

totals, but yeah, again, it's obviously good when you're kind of entering the week, like in the 150s or whatever I was. Keep it rolling, man. Yeah, man. It's freaking awesome. We're at an exciting senior name up there and senior little strut on the golf course and the freaking designated event, it's tied for second is awesome. So we're stoked for it and congratulations.

But we appreciate you calling in from deep under the Atlantic. And it's a tough connection, my man. So we're gonna let you go, but we greatly appreciate it. Shout out to you in the Russian for a great week and hope to talk to you soon after a win. Yeah, thank you guys. See ya.

Shout out to Chez at the cheesecake factory too. Shout to the Fuzz, eternal shout to the Fuzz. Oh, man, that's great. That's a guy I'm glad you called it. You know what's hit me? It's a damn shame. Blocky could get a sponsors invite to the travelers. Can blocky go deep though? Can you take it low? He's kind of one of those guys. He's like Brooks. He likes the tough conditions. I feel like blocky. to play Detroit. Like if blockies on plan rock and mortgage, I don't know what we're doing up there. Yeah. What's anything? Blocky would be just the conquering hero at the rock and mortgage, I would think. Couple other shout outs from this week. Yeah, as I mentioned, Danny McCarthy shot 60 almost hold a shot for 59. From the grassy.

No, Ricky bounced off the grassy. No, the grassy. No, did not get the help from the grassy. No, that he needed to finish the job. Ricky Fowler shot 60. Guys, I got admit, is 59 done? Like there's, there's like no buzz online at all about like guys threatening to break 16y more. Is it over? Like is it over? Do we do we care about that number anymore?

It's definitely been. It's over and I don't care. Yeah. I think, you know, Jim Furek shooting 58 at this event and playing pretty mediocre like the last six holes back now. It'll last six holes 100 to shoot 58. It's a horrible 58. It's about the worst. He could have shot. If you think about it, it was 11 under 312. This golf course. I mean, what's the par out there this weekend? 66 67. I mean, 15's a par three, right? It's a one shoter for essentially everyone. 13 is a 530 yard par five. That's not a par five for these guys anymore. Everyone hits it basically into now.

What is par anymore? I don't know. Like this, this tournament, and I don't know if it's maybe just a little bit of fatigue coming off a major in straight into designated event. And I don't know if the designated event tag kind of has worn off rather quickly. Like for me personally, like learning that it's an unsustainable model

has me way less excited about watching the actual event. Like I kind of thought it was like hopeful that this would maybe be the future of the tour is like, you know, getting the stars together would be what kind of drives these things and whatnot. And like it feels like whatever make balloon balloon, make believe balloon I had floating after the last few successful ones has been popped by this whole like, oh yeah, we are bleeding money, it could never sustain that.

They've done, it hurt. They've done nothing to differentiate them either. Like, you know, which is tough. I mean, yeah, it's cool to see like role-replained travelers, right? Like role-replied well or, you know, to see JT and Hadecki and Ricky and like, you know, like I do think it's, it's cool and impactful for long time. Like this is the GHO, right?

Like long time solid positive tournaments on the PGA tour to get an infusion of big time field. But again, the sponsor is paying out the ass for that. So I'd answer your question. Didn't move the needle for me hardly at all. I'm really curious if a week like this week, you know, I think you had asked is golf broken before ZB called in. And I think it's just all a matter of perspective. And I truly don't know

if you if you could sample the greater golf fandom, like do people like a week like this where it's just ears back, make as many birdies as you can, you know, is that fun? Cause it's not really that enjoyable for me. But I do recognize I certainly, I could be in the minority. I don't know. I'd like to hear from the people that are here in the live chat, like, what did you like that?

Right? Do you like with the pinback birdies, you know, approach? I don't necessarily, I did not particularly enjoy watching this week didn't feel the need to get to a TV for a lot of it. And I mean, Keegan had such a, I mean, Keegan and Chez kind of lifting and separating after Saturday didn't, didn't help the situation. I think probably a lot of people are just burned out in general. It's June 25th.

Yeah. People are doing other stuff. Like, it's just tough to like, it's tough once the majors start to pretend like the designated events are a big deal, right? And again, I don't care about the money, I don't care about the points, whatever it is. It's just like, dude, is it? Do I, do I feel the need to rush to a TV? I feel, I felt that in the run up to the masters.

I really did. I thought those event like, Riv was incredible. I thought, waste management was great. Bay Hill delivered. Players kind of down this year, but I just felt like it, it worked a lot. And man, I just, I don't know, I kind of threw some stuff at you guys in the chat today of, uh, I've recently gotten pretty reinvested in baseball after some time of like being driven away from it pretty hard. Amazing. What's some winning? I'll do for you. Well, but like,

it's amazing what changes to the rules have done for what it feels like to watch a game now. Like the pitch clock is legitimately fantastic. Like I can sit through a game. I don't feel like I'm wasting my time watching dude step off and watching minutes in between pitches. It just, it was really hard to justify watching baseball when it was going to take that long. And the style of play had changed a lot. And the shift was kind of ruining things. And like all this stuff, like non technology related stuff that really and the style of play had changed a lot. And the shift was kind of ruining things. And like all this stuff,

the like non technology related stuff, they really affected the way baseball was played and made it a worse product, got changed this year. Like they made some, and maybe it took a really long time, but through some rule changes, the excitement of a ball in play is back in baseball. And I equate that to like the ball being on the ground or like where the parts that make golf

Interesting have been eviscerated by technology or the ball or the ball curving. Yeah Well, so take if you don't want to hear the technology debate I'll take that part out for right now. Let's fix something right and just say like let's assume It's all human progress that has led to these advances at how golf is played Let's assume the track man and all of the data related stuff, all the analytics, all the science behind how to hit it farther, all the gym stuff, all of that that has led to distance gains. And I think technology has had a tremendous impact on that as well.

But put all that aside for a second to say, like, I don't care anymore if it is about the equipment. Like something needs to change. Like if the ball is going to go that far, even if it's human progress, it needs to change for the product to be interesting. And like the baseball product has completely changed. And golf is like heading the wrong direction. It has been for like 20 years. And there's no sign of any of it. I mean, I guess there's sign now that a proposed model local rule, but PGA tour is basically middle fingering that. And it dawned on me this week. It's like, if anyone that could benefit more from a model local rule, it's the PGA

tour more than the majors that go to more places, they have more places like River Highlands that are 6,800 yards and 7,200 yards that don't have the options to go back. And I don't know, it just kind of clicked for me this week of like being reinvigorated as sport that I really used to love watching and faded from for a lot of reasons. It's kind of back thanks to some rule changes that have made it way more tolerable and I don't know if it take me a long time to make that that comp to golf. Ranyam curious to reaction to that. Yeah, I think it's valid. I think hand in hand with that is the rule changes in baseball as is being evidence by our beloved Cincinnati Reds, it just, it shows off the talent and skill of the players a lot better than what was happening for the last decade plus

in baseball. And I think the comments, I think, I think the majority of people are kind of like, yeah, this week doesn't do much for me at all. I realize this is a small sample size, but just for me personally watching PJ tour golf week to week, you know, not taking out the majors, it's just I don't know who is truly good at what. Like, I feel like golf has narrowed the variance of skill. When everybody's a good driver, nobody's a good driver. And that's just very boring, I guess, to watch. It's not enticing, it's not enthralling. And so I think that's where, for me, golf finds itself a little bit. I don't

think the product does as good a job as it should, highlighting and showcasing the absolute skill of its players. And then, you know, the pace of play, the time of it, I think that's a real consideration as well. I would be all for trying some type of shot clock or some type of mechanism in which to speed up play and make guys make decisions faster or make shots under more uncertainty like if the winds up you know I when we're talking PGA tour golf I just think it's a little bit needed week to week to hold my attention. I think face collapse. Yeah, Peter Costas is a suggested limited swings with the driver and you know, you got to you got to put that into your models, you got to put that it's just like the margins are so thin

right and it's it's just feels like it yeah like a week like this just evolves into a putting contest right and whoever makes the most 15 to 20 footers has a shot to win, you know, and everything else gets kind of squeezed out in that equation. I'm again, so we've gone to the part of pro golf where the companies are no longer telling us like, oh, it's the distance gains year to year are not happening anymore, right? It's not that it's becoming hard and hard to convince people on that yet. We it's the distance gains year to year are not happening anymore, right? It's not, it's becoming harder and harder to convince people on that. Yet we, it's become a self-selecting cycle of like, it now, you know, when there was 10 long drivers in 2012, now there was, you know, there was, you know, there was 20 in 2018 and now there's 40 or whatever you want to call, wherever the cutoff

is, but like it has grown to the like the average ball speed on the PGA tour in 2011 was 166.81. And this year on the PGA tour, it's the highest that's ever been shockingly 173.04. That's a massive leap. That is an enormous, enormously, just in ball speed in the last 12 years when post pro v1, post 460 cc drivers, like it is going to become a bomber's game more and more and more in the future, even with no more technology changes. And like the end result is if you didn't like this, what you saw this week and your anti-rollback,

like I don't know how you net out there at this point, I really don't. They go hand in hand. Do you, like I know the, I know baseballs use the miners to test stuff out. Do you do that with, you like, I know the, I know baseballs use the minors to test stuff out. Do you do that with, you know, McKenzie tour or corn fairy tour or, you know, America? They should. That's really hard.

I know. It's really hard to be like, you guys play a different equipment than the, we'll play that, that you're going to be judged on when you make it to the big leagues. That's, that's a tough one. That's a tough one. It's, I mean, baseball, it's, the comps are not perfect, right? Like you, you, baseball is played with one ball, and it's the same game at each level. And like the, the product is watching that one ball. The ball's different this year in AA. They have a much tackier ball. Like they, the, the, the equipment is not uniform throughout the minor leagues of baseball. But we,

it's worth acknowledging like the situation is very different in when it comes to golf, right? Like there's different golf ball offerings and it's the stakeholders have a say here. Look, whether or not we like want that to rule out is sure is ignoring the obvious that they have a lot of it. If I were the PJ tour, though, I would look at, uh, what is it? The Canadian to is that the McKenzie? Are they the same thing? McKenzie tore out, you know, America, like the same thing. Now they're PJ tour Americas. I think it is.

Yeah. That's the type of tour I would absolutely identify to try some of this stuff out. And it's like guys might complain. And I think my response to him would be tough shit. Like you want, you want to play on the PJ tour Play better, but for the overall sake of the game, we need to we need to Test some of this stuff because otherwise it's all just it's always just gonna be theoretical Yeah, I mean college baseball these aluminum bats, right? These metal bats like

Yeah, I mean college baseball these aluminum bats, right? They use metal bats like I guess I'm already defeated by the fact that like the tour doesn't even want this rollback, right? I know I don't think whoever will But that's the funny thing about the tour is like the tour was to talk product product product all that means is like packaging and money, right? The actual product actual on-course product the tour doesn't give fuck about having that conversation. Everything's all too much to do with this. They have guys fleeing for a rival league.

The ratings, you can't make a ratings argument that week to week PGA tour golf is like excellent. I don't know what you can really point to to be like, this, this board is super healthy, which all of my baseball went through, right? Baseball resisted this for a pretty decent amount of time, but you had fans saying, the guys, this is broken, this isn't fun, this isn't good. And, and slowly to their credit, baseball, you know,

starts testing some of this stuff, and lo and behold, what, what they find through testing, they implement some of the things that they think are gonna be be positive rule changes and now here we are with a product that literally buy and large everybody I've talked to like baseball so much better baseball so much better. And to get the shlong and Cameron Young to bring man from the table to deliver the commit. And I think if golf, if golf just refuses to even do some of that stuff, I think it just goes back to some of this myopic, like, it's, it's what we've seen through the whole live stuff. Like they just refuse to get out in front of stuff. They are so reactionary. No vision, no planning for the future. It's just everything is just meeting short-term goals. And they're just

in a web of shit now. And that's not even talking about all the other stuff going on that. Yeah. Anyways, move on a little bit. TCL, you cook a little bit here as we acknowledge a few performances down the leaderboard here. body chefler. What number two overall in ball striking this week. Yeah, he was off a little bit this week with the ball striking. What's going on there? I don't know. It's, will he make it to Rome? Is the question, I think. I don't think his spot is safe because he fell all the way to, all the way to sixth and stroke scan approach this week in 15th off the tee. So he put a pretty neutral this week, 42nd and putting close to neutral, but of course, another top five finish for Skyseer. The thing, Porter's been tracking. Sheffler's lost to 63 golfers total internaments so far this year. And he may be, he may not lose to 100 golfers total and golf tournaments this year.

That's insane. It's without putting well, without putting well. That's a recipe for madness though, too. It really is. That's a great call. That's a recipe for madness though, too. Yeah, it really is. That's a great call. Minwuli T9 just wanted to shout that out. JT. It's JT. Signs of life there 62 in the third round for him.

It's signs that maybe maybe it's not a health issue, which I don't know what to make of last week. Then I don't know. I think we as public and media and fans can tend to overreact when scores are that bad to say like it's irreversibly broken. JT didn't seem overly heartbroken by it all or overly flustered. And I don't know, I go back to Horseshoes interview he did. We have to shoot in 84. I'm just being like, dude, I'm not that far off. Like, I'm really not. I know that may not seem like it, but he's reached back and found something pretty

quickly. I don't know if it says something to the setup and does it identify the best play and what he've gotten kind of ejected more on a tougher setup. I don't know the answer to that, but he moves up to 66th in the FedEx Cup, which is kind of crazy to say at this point in the season. But medium dig Rick, T13 shot 60 in the third round. Uh, that's, I think that's news to me. I was in a short 60. I learned, I've learned you guys. Guess what? He was at a chip for 59. No one was talking about it. I was like, man, this really might be dead. Uh, I shot out Carson Young T 15 continues to play good golf. Uh, who else? Eric Cole. Eric Cole continuing to shot 73 on Saturday, but otherwise 64 65 65

the other three days. Eric Cole taking over for, uh, who did I say was the hottest golfer? One of the hottest golfers in the world. Is it Ryan Gerard? Is that what it was? Ryan Gerard. Yeah. Eric Cole is now the now out of hottest golfers in the world anywhere. So Chess and Hadley moves up to 154th. Hopefully he he he felt recognized and rewarded for his loyalty with this purse. Austin Eckert played well T24. Another guy T24 at Ludwig Aberg. Ludwig's listen T24. I think we saw his floor this week. Guys, he bogeyed as, you know, he had a tough start to the week. Shot 65, 65 on Friday and Saturday. He didn't like, I don't know, it was, it was strange.

He didn't really hit his, I earned all that well. He lost three, almost three and a half shots to the field approaching the green. He was third and strokes gained off the tee. Fourth and strokes gained approaching the green. He was third and strokes gained off the tee. Fourth and strokes gained around the green. Sally, I know, I know you put stock in both of those numbers, huddled pretty well. But just, you know, overall, I think Ludwig, I think he's figured out how to chip. I'm told that he's shallowed out his attack on his chips.

Again, we're bummed that we didn't get the top 10. We're bummed that we didn't get the win this week. I think the win's coming. I wouldn't be shocked to see it next weekend Detroit. He's in the field. But, you know, like the floor is so high, guys. Any comment on the white belt? He's Swedish. Okay, you know, it's going to happen from time to time. Okay, for the Swedes. I thought, you know, and we're not even

mentioning here, a bunch of people sent me videos of him playing with Sam Bennett Thursday Friday. Bennett wadled like 14 times in a row. I mean, just really like depraved shit. They put the cooler on them. That was, that was pretty gutless from the tour. I think pairing those two together. Um, can I, can we call it truce on Ludwig? Uh, nothing but the nicest things to say about him ever. And I'm getting bullied in our slack when he, for every good shot that he hits. And I just would like to declare my support for Ludwig in his career. I'm very excited about him. I want to be excited about him. You are making me rude against him. And I just want to,

I want to call off whatever beef we have over Ludwig and just, I want to call for a truce here. Do you apologize for calling him old? I don't. He's really old. I don't, I don't apologize at all. Do you apologize for fluffing Tom Kim? Absolutely not. And that's what I'm gonna talk to you. I don't know what Tom Kim has to do with this.

We might be at an impasse there. I don't know what he has to do with this. Like the Wagner group and that. One big is an incredible talent. I'm excited that he's, I like the path to the PGA, it's worth through PGA tour you. I like the immediate, like, I agree with you that this wasn't even a special week for him

and he finishes T24 and I just, I wanna be able to enjoy it. And I don't want you, you don't want that either. You don't want to deprive me of the joy of rooting for Ludwig. So I just will ask that we get to that right here right now. It's us against the world, baby, you know? No, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, true, Sally. Thank you. We can. That's big. That's thank you. You know, you're a gentleman. Thank you. Speaking of PGA tour, you, Ricker, Ricky Castillo, T 11, again, this week, just backed up his, his win from last week. He's playing quite well on the

Corn Ferry tour, anything else on the leaderboard? I was going to Roy Manonase. I feel like that's worth noting his first ace on the PGA tour. He finished a tie for seven hit a three hundred and eighty something yard drive off the 18th hole today on a non firm golf course. So that was that was cool as well. But it it's almost makes me upset to see Roy play well the week after major. Go ahead, Randy. Yeah. Oh no, code man, bring that leaderboard back up for me.

If you can. Sorry. I'm putting you on the spot here. And just just pick a guy, maybe Kevin Tway, just to drive home something that we talked about Friday night. Kevin Tway, yeah. Gaines, is he the swole monkey or whatever? The gains with the mz.

Yeah, the gains. And then click on stats for the people who listen on the podcast. This is just the P with the games. Yeah, yeah, the gains. And then click on stats for the people listen on the podcast. This is just the PJ tour site. It's incredible. I can go in, I can go in on any player, I can click on their stats, and I can see their strokes gain performance for every round this week. This is a designated event, but I could do this for any event throughout the year on the PJ tour. And just to kind of loop back to what we're talking about with the Women's Game, their major championship this week, there's no stats package like this for for fans. KPMG, again, to their credit is trying, they've instituted kind of their performance insights portal,

which gets updated after the week. But to get granular stats on the women's game is impossible. But I do want to shout out at the US women's open at Pebble for the first time they're going to have shot link all across the course on every player. So we will get stats packages like this. But when we talk about the disparities between the two tours and just what what are the little things that make the men's game a lot more approachable interesting to talk about think about discuss, et cetera, et cetera. It's just stuff like this. So thank you, Cody.

That's all I see. I see. You should think the volunteers as well. They make the one's out there doing it. Oh, we got a shout out to volunteer that picked up Leonna McGuire's team mark. Like during the rain delay, she marked her ball with a T and volunteer to say, Oh, I'll pick these up and picked up. She didn't know where to put her ball back. And we got to shout out fake Seth law.

Well, fake Seth law, the rules official was on the first day today as well. So any concerns about the pro guys. Not yet. No, don't you think he's exhausted? I, yes, he's like a, you know, has young kid at home. Father. Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm not concerned. We're monitoring. We're not concerned yet. Of course. More cow. I missed the cut. John Rom, missed the cut this week as well. Yeah, I think it's due. This was a tough one. After all the shit that's going on in the last month, coming off the West Coast, US Open open flying to this for a designated event.

I think any any any any week performances is weak. I think we're under or understandable. I think if you gentlemen. Yeah, this was the 13th designated event of the year. This is the final designated event of the regular season. How do we think that they've been so far? It's like pretty uninspired. I hand up. I literally would have said, Randy, how many designated events have been played thus far? I've been like, I don't know, six. Well, I think you're counting majors in the players, right? I am.

Yep. Right. Yeah. So 17 total. Okay. Yeah. I mean, the PCI Tory years almost, we're almost done with golf. I think they're overall a positive. I think it's still better than what was before, right? I still

just have a harder time like getting up for it knowing like, hey, this was never sustainable. This is like, I don't, it's hard to like see them just throw everything up in the air and you know, whatever the hell is going on with the Saudis, which I don't think anyone's really know what's going on. Everything just feels like, how do I say it? They're just running in place until we find out what the future of golf looks like. I've lost enthusiasm for this season,

which has been a really good season, a really good Scotty, Ram, like duel. I actually, for once, think I kind of care about who wins the title at the end of the year. I don't even want to say wins a FedEx cup because I don't actually care about that. But I want to know who emerges as the champion between those two by the end of the year. And I feel like I've gotten just cold water thrown on it by the last several weeks. I don't know if you guys feel that at all. I feel that too.

I think it's really tough to do these designated events a week after a major. Yeah. Like that's, you know, heritage felt flat. And I love it. Like, and like, I like that they're going to some courses that are, there's a little bit of variety there. And they're not just these massive ball parks that they usually have, you know, the WGC's on or playoff events on and all that. Like there's some, there's some cork and stuff there. I like that, but man, it's just it's really tough to like, all right, this event's important this week because you're telling me it's important this week, and there's this arbitrary person, all that, and

everybody's just kind of got to hang over from the week prior. That's that's where I am. I I think designated events work in the winter, the West Coast swing, the lead up to the majors, and put them later in the fall. But just to me, they don't really work as much around the major championships because the majors just take up so much oxygen and attention. For me, I'd look to how to capitalize a little bit on the fall season, but that like the January through March should be like sweepstakes time. Yeah, like the Torah owns that and kind of, you know, try to abdicate a little bit in the

summer. I want to get your thoughts on this Cody, but this kind of dawned on me relatively recent. I'm like, why do I feel like the memorial is losing some steam? And the more I think about it, the move made in 2019 to move the PGA to May and move the the players back up to March. Like that stretch from masters to US open, I feel like was way better on the PGA tour than it is now, right? And now the majors are so way tighter, you know, in ending in July, it seems like it's really hard to get up for anything in between those, right? When there actually was a little room to run between the masters in the US open and then a tight run between, you know, the summer months and kind of going later into the summer, I don't know. It just is hard to, it's

harder to get up for regular events in the new major layout. I've found it. Took me a while to kind of realize that, but I really see the engagement on our social media die down on these events as they go on, and I'm really starting to feel that in recent weeks. Cody, what are your thoughts? Yeah, completely agree. I think that moving that stuff around is not only hampered overall fan enjoyment, but I think some of these tournaments themselves. Like the memorial is the memorial because it was like that big may event. You know, and then if we look at things, you know, how it's been the last three years, but even this year, if we look at the calendar, so they're telling us from the masters that we need to get hyped for RBC Heritage,

we need to get hyped for Wells Fargo, then we get to the memorial. And then memorial turnaround is, you know, a week off and then we're going to US Open and now travelers. Like, it's just a lot that you're telling fans like, this is really important. And I don't know like, I don't think that's worked. I think the last like elevated event that I think has has stuck out in my mind really is like the Genesis. And I think that would probably fit into whatever the legacy events that they're going to move forward calling them anyway. Like API didn't feel any different to me. I can't even really remember like

the most fun API I remember is like Bryson hitting like big balls. You know, I outside of the fact that I know that like Kurt Kiteyama came out of nowhere and wanted this year, I don't remember anything else about it. I don't think it's worked. They started Peter and off from me at Wells Fargo. That was kind of where it was like. Yeah, that's postmasters, right? Like everything leading up to the masters. I feel like I do feel like it worked. The ratings were up. It was just like, it's a simple formula, right? Like, you're more likely to get a bigger name winner if you have more bigger names in there. And we got a lot of them.

Kiteyama was kind of a good, I don't know, it was a good surprise one in terms of like, dude, I mean, we don't want to see Max first happen when every week, like what's happening in formula one right now. Like you want to have a little bit of writing. You want to at least have the hope that the mules can, can, I'd say he's above a mule, but you want to have some hope that the mules can do something. But yeah, as the majors hit, it's just, it's way harder to get hyped about the PJ tour and it's Detroit week. And this, it's going to be a tough scene probably, probably this week. I would, I would have to, I would have to imagine. Did you guys see the, the Aiman Lynch article on, uh, column on Patrick Cantley on he?

I did. Do you want to tell us about it? Yeah. I mean, I got it. I thought it was just a great like I first two graphs. I was kind of like shit. It was kind of a lawn zone warning gift. They were like, you know, first two graphs, it's kind of. It's tough to feign any sort of pity or can you set us up?

What's what's what's going on here? So Aiman basically lays it out and he's like, yeah, like, Monahan, like, like, why would he rush back to this job when you've got people like Patrick Cantlay basically trying to stage a coup and trying to, you know, undo this deal or undo other deals, but not not because of any any moral or ethical, you know, pushback on it, it's simply because Patrick can't lay things that he's worth tens of millions of dollars and people are lining up to watch him in golf tournaments. And I mean, Aiman had some absolute fucking zingers in there at Patrick. It was great. Like, just an art list, you know, just,

I mean, shit on his business acumen because he's like, yeah, like, thinks he could be a partner at Goldman because he's got Goldman on his hat kind of thing. Or so, yeah, basically, Aimee was just saying how broken this model is that like, a rational market isn't valuing, going back to what we're talking about on the designated events. A rational market isn't valuing these guys as they're valuing themselves.

And I think can't lays the poster child for that. It probably will forever change the path of professional golf, like having somebody come in and total like markets work in a very efficient way. Like forever, the PGA tour was about how much money you brought in and how they got distributed to the players. And then all of a sudden, it, it's totally flipped on its head by something that doesn't make any actual sense from a dollar and sense standpoint and it has me like fearful of like truly like the whole structure of Progolf could fall apart in the next couple of months years and it's feeling

more and more likely that's going to happen than it is like this deal going through to me at this point Yeah, and it's basically like he said, you know multiple sources say can't lay his romance live for some time including while being a sitting member of the Tours policy board all me all while maintaining a gymnast balance as a fence sitter in public Basically saying that can't lay wanted to You know, there there there is a market out there right now because there's two competing Parties for his services and he's trying to extract the most value as he can out of the PJ tour and if live goes away, you know, it doesn't have that. But it's, it's just, I mean, Patrick can't let him meet like, he represents everything

that is wrong with sports in the 21st century. Just, just an absolute shud. Yeah, no sympathy for me for Patrick. I, Tron, we had gone back a little bit. I think the thing about the aim and piece that just caught me a little off guard or kind of scratching my head was, one, it seemed pretty sympathetic to Jay, which, listen, Jay is a human. I hope he's dealing with whatever happened

and, you know, tending to his own health. But Jay is like a leader and a CEO of the PGA tour. Like, I didn't think it necessarily deserved any sympathy that way. And then I thought he was kind of just brushing aside the fact that like nobody knows anything about what this deal actually is. And so I just, I could never be upset at a player

for I don't know, like who is strong words. But if I don't know what's in this deal and the tour hasn't like worked with me at all, and I don't blame guys for being Suspicious or seeking outside counsel, which I thought Aiman just kind of brushed aside a little too conveniently for my taste and I was I was kind of like hoping for hey here is the coup that is being discussed here like why I kind of glances past that I don't feel like that was really reported this week like Patrick can can't least staging a coup of some kind. And maybe I maybe I missed that. They're honestly, I'm hesitant, especially hasn't to do this part of the show live. And I'm hesitant to like comment

on anything this week because and in recent weeks, because I feel like all of us and players included. I don't mean to say us as in players, but like all of us sitting here plus the players don't know what the fuck is going on. Or there's something going on that has been kept very secret, right? We're trying to dig in on a bunch of different things, not really gaining much traction, but I have a ton of outstanding questions that are so high level that it's really hard to dig into any serious details. Like, how does this get approved by the players? When does that happen? Like, something happened with the board vote that was supposed to happen on the 27th of June.

Multiple sources had mentioned that to us. That got quietly changed. I would imagine because there's just no details to vote on at this point. I imagine Jay's health may have changed some of that. But how does this get past DOJ? Jay and or someone from the PGA tour will be going to Congress on July 11th for an open hearing with stolen valor Richard Blumenthal on this Richard Blumenthal has summoned them for that. What is that spectacle

going to look like? What is that? There's a whole level of geopolitics of somebody's going to have to green light this at the at the government level. For a reason that I can't fully explain yet, for this to go through from an anti-trust perspective. And then there's a great article in the Washington Post this week about all of the other leagues, how they have gone away from their nonprofits and how they've gone into, you know, how they've gotten anti-trust exemptions and things like that. And I, it doesn't feel pending or eminent on the PGA tour side. And I don't understand enough about that world to present any kind of story to the

audience on that. It's just fucking good. But also on another note, like the, the lawsuits just evaporated. They went away, which, yeah, now that that happened, right? So the lawsuits are dropped without prejudice. It feels like we're at an entirely different negotiating table now. And without prejudice means they can't, as I understand it, they can't get picked back up. Even if this deal doesn't go through live, can't now sue the PGA tour, which like doesn't, I can't even tell who that benefits. Like I don't have the game theory here to just believe that there's got to be some sort of breakup fee in there or because otherwise,

it's like, yeah, like, I mean, I guess, I guess the Saudis got what they wanted with the, you know, Jay and Yasser sitting on CNBC next to one another and that's the tacit approval that they wanted, just, you know, from a visibility perspective. But at some point, it's like, you know, you look at that and then you kind of play it out. And if this looks as unlikely to follow through on so many different levels, then like, hey, you kind of can't blame the tour for doing the job, like doing the deal. If it got rid of the the pending litigation and there's no, there's seemingly not that much downside risk. I said without prejudice, it's with prejudice, which means it can't be picked up apologies.

But that's where I'm like, is the tour capable of playing chess? And I know that's every end clean I had says no. Maybe Hurley, he and Don are, but like, I don't know. I just like the lack of info forthcoming on anything, you know, whether it's J or the timeline for this stuff or the like internal communications of the tour, like, like they're leaving their their tour employees dangling in the wind. They have no idea what's going on, which again, like smartest, like level that it possibly could be would be, again, I'm just like left to speculate on all this stuff would be like, Hey, guys, like we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna take barrel fire, barrel

fire for now. We know it's not gonna go through, but we'll be in a more advantageous situation when it doesn't go through. And I'm fine to take the barrel fire in the meantime. And we can't say that part out loud to you guys, but that's like best case scenario, I think, for them at this point. But again, then, so like, what had like, it's something that's going to take a while, no matter what, right? So when we initially, when all this stuff came out, I think we were, I don't think we emphasized it enough, yet I think we were one of the leaders in saying like, Hey, we're early in this. This is not a done deal. Like a lot of people thought it was a done deal when they went out on CNBC and said, this is, we're merging operations here. And it sounded like it was

done. That was what the big shock to all of us was. It was like, how do you even get it through player approval when they don't know about it, all this stuff. But it's, if it's going to take a while, that means it sounds like live is going to continue into 2024, which I did not think that on June 6. It sounded like live was over because I think I had assumed this thing was gonna be fast tracked, a lot faster than it will be. Absolutely. And that's like, what does cat think? How have we not heard a word from Tiger on any of that? I mean, I guess again, if you don't know any details,

what's the benefit in speaking out on it? Well, I don't know. At some point, like, it's Tiger just rolling in his eyes at these guys, like a can't lay or they're like, hey, like, I left you this shit. Like you've said this before, so I like, I left you this and like, this is what you did with it. There's a great, and I'm sorry you got canceled in Louis CK bit about,

like God coming back to, to the world after seeing like what we've done with it. And it's like, what the fuck did you guys do with this place? Huh? Like, what, what do you, what do you, I need, I need oil. Like, what the fuck do you need oil for? place? Huh? What do you, I need oil. What the fuck do you need oil for? Like I give you food in the ground. What do you need? And I listened back to that and thinking of it as tiger, what he left the PJ tour guys with and it may be laugh really,

really hard. And it's just, it's like, yeah, even from like a governmental perspective, Congress, and then also like the DOJ, like there's still like a major's investigation out there as well. Like there's all sorts of collusion and wage fixing there. Like there's, like it's not just the tour, right? Like the the entirety of golf is kind of potentially getting up ended here.

Well, it feels to me a bit like, I don't know, I was a little too young for this, but I remember the 1994 strike in baseball of like, you guys played it really fast and loose with the trust of the fans here. Like you bitched and you fought over the money side of this and you middle fingered all the people that drive the value of this. It's a little bit how I feel as a golf fan of like, dude, it is soup a huge turnoff to watch all of this play out over the last couple years. And has greatly messed with what I love about golf. And what I would think a lot of people love about golf, like you don't, it's a little bit interesting to like follow the ups and downs of this

from week to week. But we all are here because we like the sport and we like the game and we like the competition at the highest level. And they are really flirting slash maybe have ruined people's trust in this competitive level of this sport. That's where back to Amin's thing, his last paragraph, it said, it's unclear whether Monahan will return to the PGA tour. It would be understandable if he opted out because what is the appeal of the job? It's been reduced scavenging in order to meet the gross, pesky inflated price tags as players put on their own charisma, a value that a rational market has shown no sign of supporting.

What are the chances? Go ahead, Rene. No, I, I like that. Yeah. I, there were bits and pieces of his article I love. And how do you titled it? Patrick Greed is a chode. And here's why I like you can't like. We chode. And here's why I can't let you. We can't we can't we can't. We can't. We can't.

No. Oh, no. Oh, no. We're done. We're going bankrupt. We're done. We're done. Lady J. I am not a sorry. Lady J. I am sorry. Patrick can't lay. Yeah. Two thumbs up. Like great article. We'll we'll gladly read like why is it showed. Yeah, I don't know. I honestly, I don't have a whole lot more to add just because I think it just comes back to we don't know so much. So it's just hard to, it's hard.

Hard to comment. I hate to say this, but I kind of read it and view it as like, it's almost the end of June and I have to get something written for this month and I don't really know what's going on and we know this can'tly thing's been like the worst like hidden secret forever. I can write about that and try to do a little bit

of like dancing around in support of the tour in J and put this article out there. Like I'm all about. There's no, there's no depth there. Like this is just, well, I think it's safe for months. I think all about there's no, there's no depth there. Like this is just, oh, I think it's safe for months. I think it's extremely valuable to get the can't lay stuff out there. True. But I mean, still there's no, there's not a lot of depth there. There's no depth there. Do you think it's weird? The lack of reporting around the monohan situation.

Like I do want to recognize I'm sensitive people's health. Like I understand that, but his, his, his job and his stature and in light of the news that was just released at the beginning of the month, it does strike me a little strange that there's not more reporting around like, yeah, what is going on? Yeah, what is going on? What is the outlook? Yeah, yeah is going on? What is the outlook? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And to get the maybe I'll counter that and say like got it like we take the PGA tour very,

very seriously. This is our job. Like we we follow it very religiously, but I mean the PGA tour did everything that they're supposed to do. They immediately named two people who are going to take over and in his stead while he's recovering. It's obviously he has all the personal reasons in the world not to put more information out there.

And I would say it's more on the tour to communicate what a somewhat reintegration or come out plan is because there's also a lot of things that are out there that's like, he's not out, wins he coming back, like, what is it? And we see this from the player's point of view of what the fuck is actually going on. Like, you would think there will be something, but I also don't know like, would you rush some sort of speculation and then what happens if he misses that day?

What if he's not ready to come back? We don't even know what the fuck is. If he's not ready to come back? We don't even know what the fuck. If he's not ready to come back, then you need a leader. That's the real situation is like, you need a leader to, and I'm not, I don't think he was the right guy anyway to really to begin with, but like, at some point, you can't, you know, it's like when Oscar Munoz from my hitters at United Airlines,

he had a heart attack and he couldn't come back and it was like, hey man, like you got to step aside here. Like we need someone to lead this organization. I will say it's been two weeks. Yeah, it seems like it's a long time, but it's, we're relying upon the tour to be like communicate something effectively.

Like that's, like they're not capable of that. Like I would be more shocked if they communicated anything effectively than just about anything else they could possibly do. Well, and there's, there's something that stinks right now, something smells from where I'm sitting. Like we, we, we, something's rotten in Denmark. Well, again, we like, I know people hate this part, but like we, we hear a lot of things about shit going on. Players talk, like we just, we generally have a sense of like rumblings that are going on. And it's kind of hard to get information right now. Like I don't have a clear picture from

a lot of people of like exactly what's going on. And I can't piece the puzzles together, the pieces together myself as to what it is, like where the players stand on this. They're, they're all being suspiciously quiet in public. And I, I know they've had a lot of private meetings talking about this stuff and we've not gotten really the downloads from those meetings. And that's a rarity, right? And like, like, media, you know, gag orders or whatever internal stuff you want to put in to say, like, hey, let's not talk to the press about that. That happens. But everything that's gone down since like June 6 has been weirdly quiet and it's been hard for us to make sense of it. A lot of like our representations on this show, even if not sourced, are like filtered through multiple sources that are giving us information

that we feel comfortable representing through our opinions and things like that. And that is, for me, that's dried up a lot over the last several, several weeks. And it's been, it's, it's really weird. Maybe because no one else knows what the fuck is going on. So I can't wait for the congressional hearing. I hope it's lit. I hope it's, I don't know.

I hope, I hope we'd learn stuff from it. Cody, to your point, I think under any other circumstances, like I don't feel like I would need to know more about J or even want to know more about J, but I think given that this was like a sudden medical condition tied to likely, this hugely important piece of news in a potential agreement.

I just think it rises to a level of like, at the very least, we need better communication from the tour. Randy, can I ask you about your excited for July 11th, the hearing? What are you rooting for out of this? Like what do you, it's a good result. I don't know the answer myself. Like I, I don't either, I don't either.

Like are we rooting for like the government just be like wave them on through? Like come on down, Saudi, like take the money, go run the league and get off and run. Or are we rooting for everything to blow up and like see what's left of the scraps when it's all over? I hate to say it. I'm kind of rooting for stuff to blow up.

What does that look like? Like it's sometimes, you just know. You just start over. Right. Yeah. Like maybe we need a big reset. You guys have a lot more faith in the United States government than I do. Because keeping the Saudi happy for everything

in the overall GDP and world global politics is a hell of a lot more important in the United States of America than a PGA tour weekly event. I mean, there's massive deals with between the price of oil right now and everything else, like they want to keep Saudi Arabia happy. And there's a reason why all of this lined up the way that it did.

And if you want to tie other people who are running for president and and decisions on when he was is a rainman and everything else was like, this is all part of a bigger package to to keep them happy and to ensure that they are the number one ally of the United States of America in the overall golf region. So, golf. Golf. Which goes. Golf or golf? The Arab Gulf. So if the government kind of rolls over

and this green lighted and I at least won a little come up and it just rubs me the wrong way how this all went down, I guess. I don't know, I think that's what I'm left with is just, it doesn't quite make sense to me yet. And so I guess, maybe that's what I'm after. If the congressional hearings can help with, like, just help it make sense to me.

Which, like, because I think at one point, I got, I don't know, maybe still at this point, like, I don't care if the PGA tours are monopoly. Like, I don't care if they have anti-trust violations. If it means that we have a good strong competitive golf world, right? And like, do I do I think it's like they're the best and most, I think they're the best and most capable of anyone that exists currently to present that, right? Am I still a huge supporter of the PGL idea and the idea of team golf and like

all the best players in and well being on teams and Something I dream of a world better than the PGA tour. I do But I don't think like that it's that's like coming close I don't think that's the next thing on the docket if the PGA tour falls apart I think it's like fighting for scraps at that point. I don't know if they I don't know if people start their own tours I do not know what happens if this thing all falls apart At some point can we just get some fucking adults in the room? Right. Right. I think that's what Jimmy done supposed to be, right?

Like, I think that's the whole, I mean, he's not been there very long and he comes in to say like, all right, I'm gonna, I'm doing this deal now, guys. Like, this is, this is my, this is my thing. But he's still like, he's still a board member. He's not like the dude running the show. He's not, he's not the CEO. He's not the commissioner. He's not the deputy commissioner.

Does he become that? But I don't think he would have any, any desire to do that. Like Jimmy just wants to play golf and probably be the hero on this stuff, right? He wants to save the day, but he doesn't, he doesn't want to fly around

and beg Comcast and waste management for more money. Come on, big. Commissioner job pays really well, but it doesn't look like that front of a job. I'll say that. That's for sure. Big, I hate to say because I think that date is going to be like an extreme let down. Because what I think, what I think we're going to learn is that basically it went down the same, like the exact same way that we've

heard it so far, like, oh, yeah, Mr. Jimmy Don sent us a message. And then we flew in and had lunch a couple times and played golf. And he closes the deal because he closes the deal. He's like the expert negotiator, right? And then Ed came in and was like, okay, well, this is like structurally what we need to put together because that's what they're really fucking good at Do you think we maybe learn a little bit about this whatever the hell's new venture is on July 11th? Maybe like that's my hope like tell explain to me what the hell this thing is gonna mean How do you how does the tour plan to keep its nonprofit status and how do you not owe the back taxes from all the blah blah blah year? I it's yeah, that's a good fucking question.

That, I mean, that's so many questions. I wish I had answers for the audience, but I'm just dumping this out here of like where, how confused we are, Rani. The last thing I'll add, and we can get out of here because this is long, but I, in a vacuum, do I care about if the PJ tour is a monopoly? Like if we're just speaking to like pro golf,

it probably doesn't upset me more, but I think I do care in a wider sense about, you know, listen, if this administration is taking a stronger stance against monopolies and they are, they have, then I do think like if the PGA tour deal is rotten, then I kind of am like, be consistent. I want the rules applied consistently, which is like totally separate from my enjoyment of golf. But I do think it's like at some point, like, the monopoly stuff has to matter a little bit, I think. I think it, I don't know. I, again, I'm trying to think of this in terms of other sports and get nothing but makes golf different is, you know, there's an ownership group and there's a players union in what,

again, all the three major sports in the United States, right? And there's not that obviously for a member run organization where the owners, quote unquote owners are the PGA tour players, right? So what I worry about is what has happened over the last many, many years is the tour being the only option. And we're kind of stuck watching a stale product that has no incentive to improve in any way because it's not driven by any kind of competition. And we've seen all the things that have changed on the PGA tour, which we have screamed for for many, many years, just put the existence of live. And I guess I'm struggling to know where that blame gets put other than like on the players to like take some ownership

in the product, which is what I was so encouraged about the designated event model was like, this was the player saying, here's what we want. We're going to show up, enthused, excited. We're going to walk in talks. We're going to entertain you. Like we are here to entertain you. We've heard the criticism and we're going to do it. And I don't maybe, maybe, maybe golf can't be fixed in that way, right? Maybe, maybe that flame has burned out this quickly, but at least, at least it felt like

for a little while there that golf was trending a little bit in the right way, very slow progress, but I don't know, long winded now at this point. So can I get two shots before we go or one shout out and then one. Yeah. Shout to Patrick Harrington one for delivering a very memorable podcast experience, appearance this past week. Got a lot of great feedback from a lot of people and that please go listen to that. If you have not, also the podcast bump is alive and well because he won on the champ's tour this past week. When we give a shout out, Uncle Yost, my uncle Yost, Louton lost a tough one in Germany this week, Thurston Lawrence edged him out, but Uncle Yost is delivering him.

We do appreciate that from him. But he was a short putt. He missed short putt. He missed on the 71st hole. And then par 5 18th hole. He did, he did not birdie any law ended up losing by one, unfortunately. And long, long rumored and then had since been, I think we've even talked about this, but Riviera officially announced as the venue for the 2031 US Open. Yeah, there's LA golf fans, man, given what? Back. You guys see that feature or like that piece on port like hospitality and stuff or pine hers?

Yeah. I tweeted that out. Yeah, shout out to the pilot. Lozen news paper. I appreciate that TC supportive local. I'm a friend of journalists. I'm a friend of journalists everywhere. Yeah.

Except for the pilot, you only get like three free views and then they fucking, you know, you know, good information shouldn't be free. But yeah, it's just concerning like I get that maybe it wasn't the best experience in the last couple of times they've had it at Pinehurst because they had too many people like that's, we can talk about that as well. But when you consistently now are taking away grandstands and adding in like these premium viewing areas and like reducing the amount of juice from our national championship, that's not cool.

Not good. So the article just to explain some people who didn't read it basically said that for Pinehurst and where you travel like super high spectator numbers of Pinehurst in talking with USJ, they said that they are going to continue for next year, the model of having more of these high end, you know, venues instead of general spectators on. But I don't know if you guys quite remember this or not, but Pinehurst, North Carolina, the middle of June, number one, it's lightning storms every single afternoon. Number two, it's like a hundred degrees with like 90% of humanity. So maybe that is what's best for the fans out there,

is having a little bit more, you know, cover everything else like that. But I agree, I don't think it's gonna be like, as extreme as LACC of course was, but Pinehurst, you know, I understand it's like, we like to call it the cradle of American golf. You need to pack that place in. And the lack of overall GA is going to be rough.

Yeah, and it's one of those things, like I get it. Like it's not the easiest place to watch golf either. All the greens are elevated. You know, there's kind of some some tough viewing angles there. And I'm not anti-corporate hospitality either. Like nobody's, like nobody loves hospitality. You're talking to T.C. About the ultimate C-suite experience. You know, we just got to keep it in proportion, right?

Yeah, guys, I'm concerned about that. I'm happy that Rive, I think it's gonna be an awesome for a US Open venue, but we don't need to have these venues out like 40 years. It's a little ridiculous when like I filled in that name there and I looked at it, I was like, what the, I can't even think that far ahead. Like what the hell are we doing? I mean, Ludwig's gonna be like 70. Freddie's fucking kids gonna be run the podcast by the time we get to the end of the list.

I'll say that for another show on beat guys. It's just worked up about a lot of things as we go into rocket mortgage week, which I'm psyched for. It's the 313 challenge back this year. I'm assuming it is TC. I will keep you posted more. I learn about it. But code man, thank you for running the ones and tears TC. I know you're battling through a migraine today. We appreciate that Randy. Appreciate all the insights you brought into the men's and the women's game. Shout to all of our listeners and viewers that tune in live live comments. Shout

to high noon for sponsoring the show of course shout to title us shout to rowback shout to everybody. We greatly appreciate it store dot no laying up dot com if you want to shop for any merch offerings we have we want to join the nest no laying up dot com slash join. I think that is it. I am going to go rest up a little bit. It is time. It's a lot of golf watching this week. So, Sally, we're done with live shows for a little bit for on the men's side, but we're going to be back for the US women's open. We're going to be covering it all week long. Very, very excited to get out to pedal. Check it out. Watch the women's US open from there. Great to look forward to that. Thanks again for tuning in. We'll see you back here soon. Cheers.

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