No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 71: Matt Every

Episode Date: March 15, 2017

Matt Every joins the No Laying Up podcast to talk about the Arnold Palmer Invitational, his success there, the current struggles he’s facing, and what he’d change about the PGA Tour. Matt gives an... unfiltered... The post NLU Podcast, Episode 71: Matt Every appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's Arnold Palmer Invitational Week and Callaway took a tour through the King's office at Bay Hill showed some incredible memorabilia including Arnie's handwritten master's yardage book. Check out the full video for yourself at facebook.com slash Callaway. Let's go. I'm going to be the right club today. That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most.
Starting point is 00:00:42 Expect anything different. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No-Lang Up podcast. I'm Chris Solomon, joined by a two-time winner of the Arnold Palmer Invitational, which is this week, obviously, starting this Thursday, Matt, every mat. Thanks for joining us. What's going on, man? Yeah, thanks for having me.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Matt and me, I'm excited. My first to know the interview of the week. You had no interview request after I'd been winning this event twice. You were scared of me, and then the others just don't know. It's my poor play, so I kind of slide right by him. So what is the vibe down there like this week? I mean, obviously you've had an incredible history there, and you've had a lot of struggles with your play recently.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Does going back to a place like Bay Hill, bring back those memories and kind of give you, some kind of boost of confidence going into the week? Yeah, I'm searching for whatever, or whatever. It's always a good vibe rolling into the park and my hair have, I do have a lot of good memories here. As far as my game, it's pretty weird.
Starting point is 00:01:55 It's good on the range and then I get to the course and I kind of just, I don't know what happens. I just, sometimes I lock up over it. sometimes things are going decent for like four or five holes, and then some bad happens, and I've tried to keep a good attitude through it all, because I know career isn't one year. And I know there's going to be a light at the end of the tunnel, and I don't really give a crap about making cuts.
Starting point is 00:02:28 I want to win out here. I know I can. Having two wins, the list of guys have two wins, that's a big deal. Having three wins and the PGTour. So that's kind of my goal is to get another win. So it doesn't bother you as much to miss miss a cut is maybe some of your peers, you think. I could give a fuck. Seriously, it happens. I'm not planning to make cuts. I'm not. It's just it's part of part of the game, man.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Yeah, I'm not I'm not here to try and finish 30th every week, you know? I was wondering what, I mean, you've made at least on the course alone, almost $9 million in your career. You've missed several cuts in a row going into this week. I mean, obviously, the tour players have plenty of sponsorship money. Does anything change from you, like, from a financial perspective when you aren't making actual money is there any like do you feel like pressure
Starting point is 00:03:29 you should be making money for your caddy or anything like that is anything change in that regard that's a really good question right now no i have having i say that's not no it's not you could say you have a lot of money. You're a tourbook.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I don't have a lot. I don't have a lot of money, but I also don't need to look in my bank account. Got you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, of course. I hate money. Ever since I was a kid, I just don't like talking about it, whatever. Yes, I do feel, I do feel, and I have kids, and I do feel pressured to make money for my caddy, because he's a friend, and I know he's out there trying hard, but my life has not changed because of my recent struggles enough. I mean, when you won for the first time, there was a huge amount of emotion that came from you in your interview. And I think it's pretty easy to kind of piece together for somebody watching that, how much
Starting point is 00:04:37 kind of goes into that win, right, getting all the way to the top. What changed for you just in general on your outlook on golf life or anything after winning for the first time? Well, it's definitely the highest I've ever been in my life after I won. And, you know, I was completely sober. You know, so it was, I was completely sober. It was a very weird, it had the most substance ever winning. It can become addictive and you almost kind of, after that, I don't know if my expectations changed from myself. I was like, I'm going to do this again and this is awesome. Or what?
Starting point is 00:05:36 I might have started trying to do it a little too hard after I won. Before I won the first time, I played really well going into Bay Hill. I felt like I had a few good looks to win on the West Coast. When we rolled in the Florida and I think I picked decent, either on or Tampa, and then Bay Hill rolled around and just had a feeling, I knew I was going to be there. You know, you know, you know, you know, you can say I knew I was going to win that week, right? You're a tiger, you know, but I mean, it just, it just, I knew I was going to be around it. And then next year, and then I, and then I kind of struggled after that, after the first win, it's kind of when my struggles started. And then I randomly won the next year. I was playing terrible going into 2015. Yeah, terrible. And it just, it, I don't know
Starting point is 00:06:33 what happened. It just worked out. And then I really haven't played good since that. I mean, maybe it's expectations in those. And so let's go back going back to 2014. Like it puts you, this win just puts you in a whole different kind of category as far as you know you're going to be playing the majors for sure now you're getting into Augusta. So that first time at Augusta what was that experience? What about that experience was kind of maybe surprise into you something you weren't expecting or something that just kind of stuck out to you like Was there it was a really that much of a different environment when you teed up for the first time in the in the masters
Starting point is 00:07:11 Well the time the timing of my win. I only had two weeks right Before Augusta so it's and I didn't play I don't think I played the next week. So going into it my last turn that I'd won. And I believe in myself. Well, I still believe in myself. I believe in myself a lot more than I was 14. I mean, I was freaking. I was rolling. I was like, they're masters. I'm going to give this a go.
Starting point is 00:07:47 You know what I'm saying? And there's a lot more that goes in, you know, for me, when I qualified two weeks before, I'm scrambling for houses. I got all my friends asking me for tickets, extended family, asking me for tickets. It was a relief when the tournament started, put it that way. And if I get into the Masters again, which my hope I do, I swear to God, I'm going up by myself on Tuesday. I'm curious.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Too much of a circus? It is. It is. There'm too much of a circus. It is, it is, there's too much. It's a beautiful place. I just, any week I've ever played good. I've never been like, oh man, you know, I played good this week, because Tuesday I had a really good practice round.
Starting point is 00:08:43 You know, it's never been that way. So you get to a gust and you start playing all these holes and everyone's telling you you can't mess here and you get all these practice plots in the greens and that shit's a lot the window once the tournament starts. I mean, it's almost completely forget it, you know. So yeah, that was different. I wish I, I wish I think I went up Saturday before and like I said, I'd cut Tuesday now. Yeah, that's a long time, especially. And that's kind of, did you, I imagine that's not
Starting point is 00:09:15 like you would approach any other tournament. So you get a little bit out of your routine going with that route. No, I mean, it's a miracle, if I play an 18-hole practice round. It's like nine holes at that. Are you a golf nut? Like do you love the game of golf? I used to. I don't anymore. I used to love the personalities and the off when I was growing up. I was a sports fan growing up, but I'd played golf, so I followed golf too. And I feel like there were more characters.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Now it seems like I'm 33. I feel like everybody younger than me pretty much played once off growing up and that's it. That's on the BJ tour. Um, none of that's a bad thing. I'm just, you know, just kind of how I think. Think of it right now. A little bit more robotic and uh... It is. Yeah, track man, you know. You're not a track man guy.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I mean, I've used it. It's probably made me worse. I was telling someone the other day, I feel like Trackman, you can't see my hands. But if Trackman, I feel like, has a problem. So if you put like the best, you could probably throw a dustin out the window in in this because he's just a freak but you put athletes up here and Guys who have only played golf down here, and I feel like track man brings them right in the middle, you know It just brings the guys who are naturals down and brings the The guy who looks and nerds and brings them up to the middle of interesting Because I feel like I'm back to what you're saying just about you know the younger guys coming out and a little bit less
Starting point is 00:11:06 Personality I feel like golf the way the media treats it kind of the way to media treats any story Anything that's out. Yeah, that's my point is everything that's even remotely outside the lines or you know If the you know people get upset and say all of it such boring interview, take it one shot at a time and whatnot. But if you don't fall in line with that, you're making headlines on every website. So do you think that's a very fair point? Well, you're not only answering for yourself, you're answering for your sponsors too. I mean, I can't. I mean, I'll say what I want and whatever,
Starting point is 00:11:47 I'm not that big a deal, but I understand if, Justin Thomas can't say what he really wants to, I get that, you know, or, you know, Daniel Berger, or whatever. But, yeah, I mean, and how cool it'd be if we didn't have to answer to any. Yeah. Yeah, it's a double-edged sword, right?
Starting point is 00:12:09 I mean, everyone has a sponsorship, money flows. It is, it is, but I just, I don't know, someone is going to do it. That's, that's, that's, voice is, wants to be heard, you know? Like, my favorite musician is Noel Gallagher, and he gives the best interviews ever, because he literally doesn't care what people think about him. You know? Says whatever he wants.
Starting point is 00:12:38 I feel like you kind of feel the same way. Why do? Yes. I'm not a rock star. That's fair, but I could already like sense you kind of balancing the line here of, you know, you want to say things, and you're probably one of the more uncensored guys out there, but you're at the same time you have some things in mind like, okay, if I say that, this is going to really make some people upset yeah no I yeah I mean when
Starting point is 00:13:08 we're at dinner the other night I was told my agent also get me on it I'm gonna rest some people on here yeah there's you know I have to see people not that I'm scared of them but I mean I just you know awkwardness and stuff like that whatever yeah I mean back to the line you know, awkwardness and stuff like that. Whatever. I mean, back to the line with what you're saying, just kind of the guys coming out being a bit robotic. I feel like when we do have anybody that kind of breaks the mold in a certain way
Starting point is 00:13:35 that we don't see to our liking, they get kind of lambasted on, and just happens on social media and what. Let me talk about, yeah, let me talk about this social media stuff. All right. So, yeah, let me talk about this social media stuff. All right. So, yeah, if somebody comes out and says something, you know, they're not, you know, PC or whatever, you get hammered, right? Or I remember when I was coming out of school, I was cocky and arrogant.
Starting point is 00:14:01 And I'm not at all, like, I get along with everybody. I really do and if you don't get along I mean if something's wrong with you that's the way I think and and I don't mean that in a cocky way you know or an arrogant way I just I don't see I give you know what I mean I give anybody to find me day but to label someone for speaking their mind but then you got guys on Twitter who retweet nice things about them. That to me is like the all damn darsis.
Starting point is 00:14:36 It's disgusting and nobody calls anybody out over it. You know what, it's like wait. Like, you're saying, hey, you're patting yourself on the back, you know? It's, it's, it's, it sounds like you're on social media more than you, than you claim you are though. No, I used to, I used to have a Twitter and my agent, I mean, we get off of it because I'd start firing back at people
Starting point is 00:15:00 and, um, they got me in trouble. The worst is that there's now like the daily fantasy sports guys that will, if you mess up their lineup, like you personally, they'll be all over you. You will be receiving messages. Yeah, well, I do that in fantasy football, and I'm just gonna straight up. Maybe it is better that you don't have a Twitter account. No, I'm kidding. Definitely don't do that
Starting point is 00:15:33 Fantasy golf straight degenerate back and again with what you're saying about guys being different somebody like Bryce and DeChambo that's come out I feel like he's really ruffled a lot of feathers on tour just kind of this his entire approach You know towards making sure that everyone knows how scientific he is and what not. Is that something that's talked about on tour? Like our guys is upset with it as it seems like to me. Okay. I, he does not ruffle my feathers at all. Um, and he said, I don't need this with me. Um, so I'm alright with Bryson. I don't agree with how his whole putter thing was handled where they kind of like told him it was okay and then they just went out and said hey, actually it's not okay. You know, he is different and it's okay, you know like I he's he's fine with me. I'm a I'm more like I'm you know hey If he wants people to know he's a scientist and he's a scientist great, you know better than a doorquant and everyone I know thank you's cool
Starting point is 00:16:41 Are you someone is there any guys on tour that you've kind of older guys on tour that you have gravitated towards in the past, maybe that fit the mold more what you're saying and the less robotic and more free wheeling guys? Yeah, so my favorite golfer going up was Martin Calconecchi. I just liked the way he played to I mean this one hard and this big old cut I just liked everything about him. I like I mean if we're going older so we're just saying it just older than me Tom get less I really like And the people you know the guys that I roll without here like
Starting point is 00:17:26 Um, and then the people, you know, the guys that I roll without here, like, uh, Steve Murray, you know, well, McKenzie is great. Spencer Levine off the course is great. Um, why just off the course there? Why just off the course? I'm just a little intense. Um, um, I get along with everyone, man. I really do. The older, my age and up, it's a little easier to get along with.
Starting point is 00:17:56 I always, another thing about the young guys out here, I find it funny. I was in the locker room today talking with another guy. You see these guys that are like, you know, 20 to 25 and they're wearing metal spikes and it's like, I mean, I'm 33 and I barely, and I started golf early and I barely had a pair of metal spikes shoes. That's kind of funny to me. I just don't see the point in that. It's just trying too hard. A quick break to talk to you guys about the new Epic Driver from Callaway. You've already heard a lot about it.
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Starting point is 00:19:15 So let's say if you're if you're in charge of the tour like tomorrow, what are some of the first changes you're making? Oh my god. This is the best, this is the best question ever. Um, I have a bunch. One, no, if you're gonna wear glasses, wear them on your fucking face. Like your hat. You're gonna, that's the biggest pressing issue for you. It just bothers me.
Starting point is 00:19:40 It's like an accessory, you know. Um, we're, we're accessorizing out here now. You'd probably do something with pace of play out here. I'm not sure how it needs to be a level faster. But not before we get the the glass as thing figured out. Yeah, that's got to go first. It's got to go.
Starting point is 00:20:02 What else do we got? There's a lot skinless bikes. Get metal spikes, gotta go. Do they mess up the greens as much as... Does it have an effect on the greens? Can you tell when you're playing with a guy that has metal spikes? Yeah, you can. The difference in the market makes is very different yeah um what else? we got a new balance gosh is who wears those exactly I don't have seen some commercials and I've seen them on people.
Starting point is 00:20:47 What else? You asked me what I changed. You can't judge me for this. I'm not judging at all. I'm excited to develop all these. Are we okay with sketchers though? Oh no. I could actually have warned that I was talking about it. Okay. Sketchers got to go then well both but i mean he should be only all white rashes they go with everything it uh...
Starting point is 00:21:12 uh... uh... the lining has to go there's nothing wrong with a little rage but let it out. And then that's it. You know. It doesn't sound like these are rare. These aren't really, okay, fine. That's a good one. I was going to say these aren't really, these aren't necessarily rules based as
Starting point is 00:21:35 much as there's just things you want to just change about other people. I'm fine with that. They're changing things on the tour. Yeah. OK. All right, fine. How many times have you been fined? Well, I've appealed a lot of them. I've been fined a lot. Did you win any of the peals? Yeah, yeah. OK.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I mean, it's kind of, they're very broad. I mean, conduct and becoming is a very broad term. And most of mine have come from a volunteer to use me to chuck a club or something. I get, I don't know if they'd instruct volunteers at the start of the week to tell on people or what, but it's not only unless they got camped. Not seeing it, you know. And, you know, they're not allowed to talk about fine for people or whenever I get fine.
Starting point is 00:22:32 But I use someone on TV, you know, for a club. I'm like, okay, then you guys want this guy for this? And I'm like, yeah, no. You know, you have to find me for this. Two people saw it. Whole world saw that. Just kind of stuff like that. I've got now, I have, stuff like that. I've got no higher haphazard.
Starting point is 00:22:47 That's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. Is it, do you wish that they were just had an open policy about when they find people and, and suspend people or anything like that? I do it, I do. No, no. Suspensions, no. Find, yes yes, okay two separate categories there
Starting point is 00:23:09 two totally separate categories Is that all the things you change or are there more? There's probably more and if we're talking about a little more, you know So I make I like to make light of the fact that on So I like to make light of the fact that on whenever somebody comes on the broadcast for the first time that day or anything, the announcers tend to not go past the first sheet of information on the guy. When you see Sam Saunders on the screen, they're going to mention that he's on the Palmer's grandson. So what are the top items for whenever anybody is talking about you, like the three things things two or three things that are always the first that get mentioned you know mad every received florida
Starting point is 00:23:52 you know are the whole go to be held uh... but that i'm going to be a much like that i don't know well not that it doesn't have to be to tv it's like that the the narratives what are the the favorite narratives that people like to say about you uh-huh Well TV or these people like people just be it would be just great I mean if you just looked at yeah be University of Florida and
Starting point is 00:24:16 Three-time all-a-metre four-time all-american you know whatever I mean I don't know know. I'm like a pretty boring person. So I'm not, but getting into a little more details you touched on it very briefly earlier, just on your struggles, how you said, you know, when you're on the practice range, it's all there. And when you take it to the course, it's not really there. It is the same go for when you're playing practice rounds at home when you're not in an event? Um, yes, it does. It's a little weird. I'll be on my home course and I'll just be good, good, good, and then I'll hit a foul ball. And then like, you can't play. It's borderline. The last year and a half, it's been borderline driver yips. I don't know if I want to call it that, but it's close.
Starting point is 00:25:12 And it's not even close to which one I'd rather have putting yips every day of the week than driver yips. You can't play with a driver. You can't win your num. Quick audio cutout. Yeah, so if I had to choose, you know, driver, you know, I played with a guy who had to putting yips when I had the driver yips and you beat me by eight shots,
Starting point is 00:25:32 you know, and you just can't compete when you're not in play. You had mentioned, I think it was around this time last year that you were having issues where you're kind of somewhat blacking out over the ball. Does that something that having issues where you're kind of somewhat blacking out over the ball. Does that something that still happens to you? Um, a little bit. It's not, I'd probably explain that poorly.
Starting point is 00:25:54 It's not, it's not a complete blackout like I faint, but I just, my body just ceases up and I forget what I'm doing. And it's, it's the weirdest thing ever. I've gone and guy hypnotized, I've done. I've tried everything dude. Um, and it's just, I just gotta dig it out man. It'll come sooner or later, I just need one round to get me going. This is the kind of person I am. And then I'll be off and running again. That's what I was going to ask next is,
Starting point is 00:26:29 are you willing to try anything, changing coaching, changing sports psychologists, anything? You've done it all. Yeah, done it all. It's my fault. I mean, it's not like it's not, it all comes back down to me and the choices that I've made where I'm at now. I would never blame coach for anything.
Starting point is 00:26:56 You know, I'm the one that seeks their advice. It's not like they come to me and put their gun in my head and said, you have to let me coach you. You know? So I've learned a ton. I almost think I've learned too much. Too much information. Yeah, I wish I could forget a lot of stuff that I know. Now the golf swing, I feel like it'd be better. But I can't. So what is, when you're about to hit a shot, What are your swing thoughts? I know that can vary for a person. Depending on, you know, yeah, week to week, like for me, I try to think like two to three things.
Starting point is 00:27:34 And like I've talked to some guys that think about like 10 different things when they swing. So like right now when you're swinging, what are you thinking? Like today, I was all I thought about was keeping pressure on my left foot the whole swing on the whole way. And that was it. I'm to the point where I can't have three swing thoughts. There's just, I don't think you wouldn't be able to swing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Yeah. Yeah. So one is enough and I just stick to it and try and commit to it as much as I can. Um, and go from that. In talking, I'd spoke just with a, with another player today and kind of asked him who I think knows you pretty well. And I just asked him what, uh, you know, what, what I should ask you about anything in particular. And he described you as one of the more misunderstood guys on tour. Why would you say, well, first of all, how would you classify that and why do you think a tour pier might say that about you? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:41 I don't know if I come off as unapproachable. Maybe. Her what it is, I have a lot of really good friends out here. And maybe the ones that don't, you know, if you're judging on bookbides cover, maybe I don't know.ides kind of, maybe I don't know. I don't know. You're more of a... I feel like you're just kind of a straight shooter and that can kind of come off in this kind of environment on the course. I don't know if a loof is the right word or or what not is that is there anything to that or Is it something like do you you feel like you experience out on tour you feel like the most part people are very cool with you
Starting point is 00:29:34 No, I'm I'm I feel like people are very cool. Yeah Yeah, sure and if they're not Fuck them I could subscribe to that. There's a real strong internet movement right now to rid the game of white belts, but I didn't hear that in your list of things. Oh, that's on there. That's on there.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Okay, but when you won in 2014, three years ago, that was cool, but when you won in 2014, you had a white belt on. I'm saying. I'm wearing a white belt in that picture. I'm pretty sure I was watching the clips earlier and I think so. When did the white belt officially die? Maybe a better question. Well first of all, I've never been in the white belts. You probably will find a picture of me wearing one but for some reason my outfits used to get scripted and I'm in the
Starting point is 00:30:26 pit of people as close as I wore I hated when they threw white belts on them and they throw orange belts on there and shit and that's not me like I'm it's not me at all but I'm all for it I do not own a white belt now I own I wear a black belt every day and I wear white shoes every day and a white hat every day. Yeah, and white belt can go decent with some things, but God, I've seen it misused out here so bad sometimes. Where would you rank your club throwing abilities compared to the rest of the tour? Number one. That's not even close. What's the best, like, let go of a, just absolute throw you've had in an event?
Starting point is 00:31:11 I've had a bunch. I've launched a few. I got a couple over the cliff on six at Pebble on the right. A couple? A canyon at, oh yeah, couple. I got a few in the canyon on a had one I don't know it was either last year was last year or Tory not so not like a year and a month ago or whatever. I hit one right on 14 and then I don't even know where I hit the next shot but I threw where I was playing playing with it through my club over their head
Starting point is 00:31:45 and they came down to their side. They just duck for cover? I cleared them by a ton. By a month. Yeah, no, I love just aggression. And then it's fine, and then I'll go talk to that person. It's out.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Then you're good. So, who's a guy that you play with out there ever that it just feels their game feels the most different than everyone else any any kind of aspect like that this guy drives the ball better than anyone I've ever seen. What skill of one player sticks out to you the most of a guy you've played with? Well, if I was going, you know, if I was a golf fan and I was going to range to watch someone I would watch Henry Extensive involves. His sound is just it's just totally different than anybody else's it's like it sounds like a rocket. And it goes for all the way through
Starting point is 00:32:39 the bag not just the three iron three wood right. He's a machine yeah I mean he he's like a machine but it doesn't have like a machine-looking swing you know yeah he's an absolute freak what's a favorite major that you've played in you played in I think you played in all eight in 2014 and 15 right well what what what events takes out the most of all of all those eight probably both British opens just the vibe over there it's just's so much, it's just real, man. First one I played it in. I was paired with Paris Singlesian, so I'm a Georgia boy.
Starting point is 00:33:18 You know, before I played in the majors, probably what I said, the masters is going to be my favorite. I remember walking to the first two with him. We were both like, man, this is way cooler than any other major. Little kids know your name over there. It's weird. Little kids over here don't know who I am. Even this week they don't know who I am. And that's fine.
Starting point is 00:33:40 They shouldn't. Over there, they know your name. It's crazy. It's just, it feels so much more authentic over there. Looking towards this week, obviously with your winning here twice, what about, and then I'm sure this is a question you get a lot, but what is it about this golf course in particular that really fits your eye? I don't know. I think some holes that kind of forces my hand off the tee to lay back and no laying up to lay back on the tee.
Starting point is 00:34:23 And when I'm playing good my eyes usually my strength so it's definitely a second shot golf course this place so the fairies are wide uh... maybe just giving myself a lot it gives it gives me a lot of opportunities to hit my irons where you know
Starting point is 00:34:43 when i'm struggling i don't forget to hit out of the fairway. I get to be out of the fairway a little more here. So what if someone asks for like your go-to good story what's the first one you're going for? Well I have a couple one involves Kristen Marko the other involves Pat Perez and Jeff Overton. That's probably the best one though. We got time for both, don't you worry? All right, all right, good.
Starting point is 00:35:11 So we're playing the Barclays at Liberty National when you're... And Pat has this image of a hard ass out here, and he couldn't be further from it. He's extremely soft. He's a great guy, but he's very soft. And he was, for example, he was, over to his name got brought up, and he was just, I don't know if he was lying about him or whatever. I don't know if Jeff was about him or whatever. I don't know if Jeff was annoying him or what.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Well, I just got a new phone number. And sitting at the bar with Martin Flores at that Hyatt and Jersey on the water. I said, what's fucking press? He didn't have my number yet. And so I texted him and I said, hey's fucking press? He didn't have my number yet. And so I texted him and I said, hey man, Jeff, this is Monday night. So hey man, Jeff, practice round with you tomorrow. And Pac goes, oh, sorry, I've got four, maybe another time.
Starting point is 00:36:19 It's not like that. I said, man, come on. I really wanted to play with you tomorrow. He goes, all right, fine. Teen off at 9.30, you'll see you out there. All right, thanks, man. All right, whatever. So I got there early.
Starting point is 00:36:32 I play nine holes. And I'm walking up the 9 pole. And down number one is Overton is coming. This is at like 9 o'clock. Down number one, Over 10's playing with with michael said so i get done with nine i walk on the putting green and pat is on the putting green
Starting point is 00:36:53 and he be lines over towards me and he goes you're gonna believe this fucking guy but yes he has to fucking play with me today and then i see him and he just walks right by me and goes to the first thing and plays as well. Now I was like, no way. I was like, that's terrible. I'm sitting there with, I'm sitting there with Flores again and I'll tell them about everything I like to have. And I text Pat and I go, hey man, sorry I bailed on you today. You know, Phil asked me to play and I just can't pass up playing with Phil. And some of the about, you know, Phil's got a lot of experience and Pat goes,
Starting point is 00:37:35 fuck you, I got experience and I was like, yeah, but not like Phil. And he was getting, he was getting riled up and then I go, I'm thinking about moving out the Scottsdale. Do you care if I come and stay at your place while I'm looking for houses for a couple days? And you go, yeah, that's fine, just let me know when. And I was like, oh my God, what is happening? So Thursday, there's another hotel in the city,
Starting point is 00:38:07 and you can take a ferry to it. There was a ferry that ran to Liberty. Well, this could have gone on forever, but I can overturn and Perez get on the same ferry on the way over. And Overtrand Perez goes up, goes, can't believe he's told on me yesterday. He's like, what do you talk about? And then, and then Jeff had already had my number and he pulled, he pulled out the, the, his phone and typed in the number and it was mine and he figured it out then. He's, he's, he's, it was, it was pretty good. Oh, that's, that's a damn good one. That's a damn good one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Yeah. Um, so who, who, The Marko one? Oh, yeah, of course, yeah. So we were the the Disney The Wally up maybe four or five years ago and Chris is a huge gator fan like he's like the stereotypical
Starting point is 00:39:04 gayer fan, you know. And I like, I mean I went there, I like, I'm not losing sleep with the failures, you know. We were struggling, the gators were struggling and we're playing and I came in, we're gonna lose this week, and we're playing Louisiana Lafayette. He's like, we're not gonna lose, I'll bet you whatever you want. Like, all right, you gotta give me some odds, you're not going to lose. I'll bet you whatever you want. Like, all right, fun. You got to give me some odds.
Starting point is 00:39:27 You could probably be 101 odds. Only if you do it for 100, thinking he's going to kill a quick 100 off of me, you know? And I'm like, yeah, I'll do it. No problem. So we agree to it. Saturday rolls around. And I see him in the locker room and he goes, hey, how about 50 to one? I'm like, fine, 50 to one, it's fine. So we're getting ready.
Starting point is 00:39:50 We're out planning, and I look at my phone, and we're losing. All right, and it's deep into the third quarter, and I think we're down by like two scores. And the guy I told the guy that was playing with about the bet, and they're like, you think Chris is looking and it's like, I can't get into use. So right when I said that, I look look at my phone and there's a text from them that says no bet can't concentrate like I'm never betting with you again
Starting point is 00:40:12 I'm yelling everyone about this what was the final of that game? oh dude we've blocked a punt with like a minute to go to score and score to touch down on a block punt to win by like two points. So you ended up cost them some hundred bucks but it went down wasn't great. You can't bail on a bet like that. That deserves to be out there in the public like that. So. So all right Matt I'm going to let you go on that man. Those are excellent stories and I appreciate you taking taking a big piece of your time this week and best of
Starting point is 00:40:45 luck at Bay Hill. I know it's a special place to you and best of luck getting your game back on track. I think I think you realize that it's definitely a possibility and you're taking the right steps towards it. So we'll be rooting for you. That's for sure. It is. Thanks, dear. Good luck with your stuff. Cheers, man. Appreciate it. Cheers man, appreciate it. Be the right club, be the right club today! That is better than most. How about in? That is better than most.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Better than most! Expect anything different? Better than most.

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