No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 715: Scottish Open Recap

Episode Date: July 17, 2023

Rory wins the Scottish Open and we're left wondering if that's a good thing for his chances in next week's Open Championship. We take stock of McIlroy's win, Big Shot Bob MacIntyre's incredible shot into 18 in his home open, Tommy-lad, Scottie, Lord Tyrrell and everything else from the week at the Renaissance Club. After some Hamsterdam on the CBS sports app coverage, we take a sneak peek at the captains pick options for the Euro and US Ryder Cup teams (42:30), some additional reaction to Tuesday's Senate hearing, Linn Grant's win on the LPGA Tour, plus DJ's epic two-day run of ten rounds on Wisconsin's ten top-100 public courses. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying a podcast, Sully here, joined by my guy, Mr. DJ Pye. I feel like it's been a while, Pye, man. How are you, bud?

It has been a while. I'm happy to be back with you, Bon Giorno. Just, you know, excited to be here and excited to talk golf, man. Great weekend to golf. Great weekend to not golf. be here and excited to talk golf, man. Great weekend at golf. Great weekend of not golf. Great weekend, uh, just across the board, man. It was it was a great weekend to be on the couch. Not a lot of bullshit to talk about this week. I'm ready to talk about the golf that we actually witnessed and watched. And the birdies and bogies and the fun that we had. I want to get your thoughts a little bit

on some things that happened, uh, this past week and how you see things playing out a little bit. But let's, let's start start with first of all, this episode of course brought to you by our friends at title and the PJ tours, most play drivers title is TS are more than one third of the field at the sky to show, including half the guys who finished T19 or better had a title as driver in the bag with more TSR models and play than any of the brand and not to go unnoticed. Our very own Mr. DJ Pihowski also had a TSR2 driver in play for, I believe, 10 rounds of golf in just under 48 hours earlier this weekend Wisconsin. Is that right? Just under 40 hours technically. Okay. If you'd like to take off, you know, get it on a technicality there.

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golf to talk about. It was a fun morning watching the golf, but how my brain works, he was going to be my pick going into Liverpool. And now I'm like, no, that's not going to happen now. Like you can't win the week before it rolled out when an age of the next week. That's, I, I, I, and part of me thinks Rory might think that way as well. Maybe, you know, if you're looking at the history that didn't in in 14 when he wanted this very golf course, didn't he go bridge stone Liverpool PGA back to back to back, A A U national champions. Yeah, he went a Manski, but that was a different.

That was an F U Rory. Like, that's only a decade ago. Yeah. You know, what could have changed since that big. I will be optimistic and just say, I don't think winning a tournament is a bad thing. I'll go out on that limb and I'll say, it's a positive to win a tournament. I think what sticks with me most is gonna be,

you tweeted it, I tweeted it, but the clip from the DP World Tour, the down the line, like DSLR shot of the, you know, where you can hear the compression of that two iron, you can see how like somehow was like low and soft and floaty at the same time. I don't like just your favorite ball striker's favorite ball striker kind of shot there and just that shot into 18, man, just to absolutely blew my doors off. Part of it is because that was kind of the limit of what I was able to watch today. I was all pumped. I thought I had did, you know, as a

golf fan, you know this, you got to do a lot of homework the night before to watch today. I was, I was all pumped. I thought I had did, you know, as a golf fan, you know this, you got to do a lot of homework the night before to figure out how the fuck you can even watch this product. I got a chart depends. You got to look at the wind forecast. You got to do all kinds of stuff. So before I went to bed, I did my normal thing. I looked at the times.

I looked at like, okay, when can I watch this? Where should I be watching this? Where do I set my DVR? What do I have to set my alarm? All these things. And I thought I saw they were doing a replay of the round from nine to 11 or something like that. So I was like, I perfect. I'll flip it on at nine. No worries. Like I'll leave my phone in the other room. I'm not going to have it spoiled for me. Flip

it on at nine. Of course, it was it was wit wats and do you're never going to believe what Robert McIntyre's we're not going to show it to you. You'll show you eventually, but it's everybody's crying. This is unbelievable. I'm like, oh, great. All right. Well, that's cool. So then, you know, trying to click around and like it's almost like the movie, Memento. I'm just trying to like fucking piece together. What has happened now over the last four four hours that I didn't see. And so all of that is is a long way of, not the ideal experience to watch a Rory victory, but I think I've pretty much pieced together

what happened and, you know, kind of served here on this podcast that it was an unbelievably gutty impressive victory from our guy, the rib, gutty week from our guy, Robert McIntyre as well, which I know we'll get to, but that's a lot. Let me flip it back to you. What stuck to you so much?

Well, let's just go through the play by play here for people that did not have the CBS sports app up and running early on this Sunday morning in the United States, or maybe didn't catch the replay version on television. Listen, we call it Hamster Dan for a reason, but you can't let your coverage take steep into our golf show here, all right?

We got to set that aside. All right, we're not going to do that here today, all right? But Bobby McIntyre was awesome. He played awesome, awesome golf. He eagle the 10th hole after hitting it to about six feet from two of three. He hit this just brilliant, proper shot into the par three, 14th and made the 12 footer. And then he laid back off the tee. We saw a couple guys mess up the 15th hole, either driving it too close to that fairway bunker

that was like at 385 or something like that. Tommy Fleet would drove one way down there and mess up the wedge shot. I saw guys just not having control of their spin. He lays back off that tee to hit a full shot in and get the proper spin to stuff one in there. Birdies 15. He gets up to 18. And the wind is absolutely howling. I mean, this was they moved key times up for this wind, which we can talk about. But for as far as I can remember, at least for a Sunday at Renee Sons, for as long as it's been there, I don't recall ever seeing it look like this. I don't require the shots that were required. I don't remember seeing the shots like this that were required on the stretch.

And there was nowhere to hide on 17 exposed part of the golf course. And he steps up and hits the mega wipe way into the crowd. A lot of people making the joke. If it was LACC, it's still would have been in the fairway, but way, way, way left and somehow finds a walking path over there amongst all the Scottish home crowd. I'm just saying. Let's not come on. We're not doing that. I was crazy. It was crazy luck. But he's back and forth on what to hit and he steps up and hits lumber of some kind and just carves this low fade out of the rough, not a bad lie, but an incredible,

incredible shot. It is home open, stuff's in there to four feet and makes the birdie and it looks like he might be winning the Scottish open. And it was awesome. He's walking off the 18th, green, crying, just in tears after what just happened and we didn't see that because we're in commercial. Of course, sorry, I'd get my one little part in there. But it's back to Rory who had the 54 whole lead, had the 36 whole lead as well, I believe. And he just was kind of sputtering a little bit. He had to play in a lot of the worst of the wind. It just didn't seem to be really adding up for him. He shot two over

37 on the front nine flips over and makes a birdie on 11 and then makes a hits a bad, bad shot into 12 goes into pop bunker hits like 10 feet and we hits the putt and he doesn't think it's in and it goes in and that was not the only time that this happened on this day. He somehow makes part there and then turns around and makes a bomb birdie on the for 37 footer of her birdie on the 37 footer over birdie on 14. Missed an eight foot birdie on 16. The par five that was playing back into the win. Steps up and stuffed one. Awesome shot on the par 317th, a hole that was playing over par on the day. Hits at the 4 1 1 2, feet makes the birdie.

Gets 18. The wind is whipping again for him. He's uncomfortable. He backs off, hits driver and into the light rough down the left. And he goes back from two oh two goes back from more club. And just hits the shot like the shot. He hit the proper wind cheater. Get it. Had it float. Like you said, I've seen so many different angles from it. The angle from behind the green highlights just how how he controlled his trash. The trash was a little late hitting the screen when you're watching it live. And as soon as I hit it, I'm like, oh, oh, and it goes up rolls it up there to 10 feet, eight inches. And weird stuff going on with coverage will get to a

horrible angle of the putt, but he hits the putt. And he just like stands up as if he's missed the putt. And I don't know if it was wind or first he watches Tom Kim, like six putt in front of him for about a three putt, but felt like it's tried to ice him a little bit, but hits did not look like he hit a good putt. He didn't think he had a good putt and the wind blows it in the hole. I guess and it goes and he got a sense backs and laughs and he wins the Scottish open by a shot. And again, I just left it like dude, he's not going to ever accidentally make a putt in a major. He wants it so bad. Like he would trade 20 of these wins for one more major and he gets all the

luck in the break on top of some incredible play. But the luck in the breaks that you need to go win it by one shot. And it's just kind of been the story of Rory's last decade. His first win in Scotland as well, which is kind of hard to believe. Yeah. I don't think I'd fully read it. First win in European soil in seven years, they said, which I get he doesn't play there a whole lot anymore. But man, that was, that was a little bit shocking. I mean, I know not to take anything away from Rory. I know he's headed into a major, you know, as, as seemingly the, the favorite, although we can certainly talk about Scotty story of the day, Rory or Bobby Mac today.

It's so weird how I can be all morning, just as soon as I woke up, like, come on, Rory, let's get this done. Come on. All right. Come on, Rory. Let's go. Let's go. And as soon as Bobby Mac emerged, I was like, let him have this one, Rory. I mean, come on. This would be a pretty damn cool story. Please, like, don't go rip his heart out after that. Charge, he made it to the back nine, hometown win. Drizzle delightful, delightful bloke or so would appear. We've Robert back a tire and he just ripped his heart out.

But yeah, it's, it goes to show that there's just a lot of, some weird freaky, fiena-ish stuff can happen. You can play a great tournament and just get edged out by one shot. And I was feeling it for Mac entire. It really was. Roy went up and hugged him afterwards. I'm assuming to kind of sort of apologize for beating him by one shot. I was looking forward to a playout.

That had been a great playoff hole to go see. What a loss. And not to roll this right into a rollback take. But man, was it awesome to see some huge long irons, hybrids and woods, like being the deciding shots into the final hole. Like that's what made it impressive that they stuffed those shots because of how unlikely it was. I mean, I know everything changes when, you know, you're different flights and different

trajectories and different wind and different everything, but that had to be like a 240 club where it was holding at the end there. And just stepping up and hitting that, like figuring out a way to hit that to 10 feet. I mean, there's nothing more impressive to me than when kind of all the Trackman stuff goes out the window, right? And it's almost like, I know we've talked about this

and JT talked about it in our couple of video. And I just love getting pros going on this stuff, but when you can kind of just stand up there and it's like it's not really a chart or it's not even math. Really, you're just kind of looking at it and you're like, I don't know, man, like, I know it says it should be this, but like my brain in my eye is just telling me it's this club. And I don't, I can't really explain how I'm about to make it work. I'm just going to make it work. That's what that last shot felt like to me. And it's just, man, you don't get to see that enough on the PJ tour.

And I don't, like my mind doesn't go immediately to Rory when I think about the shots that were acquired like that. But when I feel like he's at his best when it is, that is the requirement of everyone. I haven't made that fully make sense, but like when Rory has to do that stuff, I feel like he can do it, right? When there's just, when there's no like in the middle

of like, should I need to play a stock shot or do I need to just feel something out? When he's totally committed to feeling something out, he turns into a different kind of athlete and I felt that's what I felt like we were watching all day. Like he was not ever trying to hit the high shot and ever trying to hit the PGA tour shot. He was in Lynx mode the entire day.

That's interesting to think about it that way. Do you, do you think that, I know this is all speculation, but like, do you think he's the kind of guy that can do that for four days or do you think he's the kind of guy that does that for a day? You know what I mean? Like he can almost like get out there and build his lead over the first three days playing like, Hey, let's just play the numbers. I'm going to hit it better than everybody else. It's almost like, you know, I know we both watched a lot of Wimbledon today, but it's almost like, yeah, the best player's just going to be there at the end of this over a big enough sample size.

And then when you get to like that 18 hole shoot out, it's almost like, okay, now let's start being an artist and let's start, you know, playing a little more artistic golf because I feel like over a 72 hole, you know, when we've seen like 72 hole tests set up that way, it hasn't really gone great. Do you know what I'm getting at there? Not really. I'm just my brain, my own brains in a pretzel of like what to expect now, because we've just seen this to me like, there's been so many majors over the last

decade where Rory comes in with this hype and expectation. And it just, it always, like the air comes out of the balloon quickly, right? So how does he maybe had a little bit of a chance to roll up to this major with slightly little expectation less expectation, but when you win the week before and you won the last time, the event was there. It's just all back like it's all there. Any kind of one the last major. Yeah.

And you've been playing just like historically good golf for like five years. Yeah. I think he's going to be the dude rocket up there. I know. And it's all of all of what we've talked about this dude just wants it really badly. We all want it for him really badly. And I don't think that's always a good thing for him. And I don't know what to make of it. You're right. It's silly to sit here and pretend like this could possibly be a bad thing for Rory. It's great to see him, you know, acclimated to the Scottish golf play a proper day in these conditions that, you know, they required this and I think it'd be different to if it's no offense to

to anyone, of course, but it's different if it's Bob McIntyre and the emotional release of winning the Scottish Open the Week before major. That's when I think I might be like, I don't know if I love him at I think Rory is pretty fucking good at managing his time, managing his energy, managing like, you know, his output and what he says yes to and what he says no to, especially on these weeks, like I think I think he'll be okay. I think listen, if he doesn't win this week, I don't think it's because he won it. Renee Sons. A couple of questions we got from ANGC burner, Augusta National Golf Club burner who had some

great tweets this week, if I may say, why do you all hate renaissance so much? Seems like a cool place for a turning on TV. First of all, pronunciation, I think is. Yeah, I'll do it. 90% of it for me. Let me flip this one to you. I think you probably watched more than I did this week. I always, I, we do this every year, every year that the Scottish opens every naissance, which seems to be the case. And I always like struggle to get all the way there to describe it, but there's so much freaking amazing

links golf in that area and in Scotland in general. And this is just a bit of an imitation of links golf. I mean, there's a lot of Tom Doke courses that I like, but he is not a preeminent links golf designer. Like it just feels a little manufactured in a lot of places. When the win buck today, a lot of the features were really accentuated, a lot of the shots started to make links sense a little bit of like, all right, now think about that bunker at 385,

that run out, the strategy elements of playing the win and things like that kind of brought out the best of Renaissance. So we've seen to this point, I think, but when it doesn't blow, it just is best of Renaissance. So we've seen to this point, I think, but when it doesn't blow, it just is kind of mad. The whole thing's kind of mad. It doesn't invoke a lot of the same feelings I get about watching Link's Golf. A lot of what we'll see at Liverpool is more subtle.

It doesn't smack you in the face, but just the way that bunkers are used to protect pins, to protect people just pounding driver in a lot of places is something that the best links courses bring out more than Renee Saunce does. Am I conjuring anything, any feelings in your mind? Yeah, I think that's fair. I would need to check the tape. So if someone could feel free to check the tape for me,

but I don't think I've ever really bashed on this place too hard. I think it's, like you said, I think it's more wind and conditions related than anything. I feel like it's, it's played a little like, I feel like it's played weirdly softer. Maybe that's just the wind wasn't blowing and it felt a little softer in years past. And that doesn't, you know, the ball doesn't feel like it's on the ground as much. It feels like it's, it's kind of played a little more through the air than, then what we'll see this week at, at Hoileck. And I just, I've, I've never walked, I guess maybe the way to say it

is like other than 18 and I guess 17. Like I can't really name that many holes from there and we've gone there quite a few times, right? And I just kind of walks away as like pretty forgettable to me at least on TV, right? And that's a lot of golf courses. And I'm sure that if I went and played it and saw it in person, I would feel totally different and I never have. So very much both hands up by me

there. I need to, I need to go see it in person. But it's, it doesn't bother me. It's not offensive to me. It's a, it's a warm up for the open, which it should be, right? So like, would I prefer that they went, you know, a couple of miles down the road and played North Barrett? Sure. Is that realistic? No. No, it's, you know, going was good. They they they've done it. We're going right down the street. That's like proper old school links, right? And there's I mean, there's a million reasons why that I mean, literally like tens of millions of reasons why like it's a,

it's a money thing. This is the the club wants to host this tournament is willing to host this tournament. It has the infrastructure capabilities, all the reasons that pro golf ends up like at, one of the reasons things I love about this week is the social media we get out of people going to go play the real links golf around it. It is, it seems like it's kind of this artificial stage

where they're going to go have this competition on, but the best of it is all in the surrounding parts of it. And it's so weird. I can't fully get behind it. And it's so weird. I can't fully get behind it. I would rather watch them play a lot of other golf courses in Scotland, but like I said, this was the best we've seen it.

And if the wind blows, a lot of what we want to see at a link's golf does happen. And guys look silly, hitting wedges. And can't figure stuff out and place strategies wrong. And different bunkers come into play. But I just don't think it's a brilliantly designed golf course. It's, it's just very, very mad to me. I think maybe just kind of dotting one more I, as we're talking about

Rory and we're talking about what you just said about all the wind and things blowing and everything. Lot of, a lot of talk on this podcast and others about, uh, about Rory being, you know, more of a thrower that a pitcher, a lot of conversation about him being a daft American golfer these days. I just wanna say that's not the guy we saw today. So for all the haters and losers of which there are many, I would encourage you to do like I did

and go track down some illegal stream replay of that back nine, because it was impossible to find, and watch what we saw out there, because there were some very different golf shots, man. And that's the guy that everybody hopes to see. And that's the guy we saw. So he's in there, man. He is absolutely in there.

Led the field and Stroke's game T degree in this week was best ball striker in the field and got some by his own. I haven't heard him say it, but by the laughing that he was doing after a couple of these puts, I would assume by his own admission, some lucky puts, which just, yeah, it feels like gosh, it was the wrong week to burn it. It really was the wrong week to burn it. But obviously a very, very good sign. So I was just great to watch some proper conditions today. And you know what? Like was a little bit like upsetting and I know T.C. is not here to defend himself for this one. But like, it was a day that like screamed Tommy Fleetwood. It was his way to backdoor a PGA tour win by having it be in Scotland

and have it be a co-sanctioned event in conditions that he should thrive in. Like he is built for this exact condition and he went out and shot two over part of the day and it was available there for him. And he was, he had some very poor wedges and just did not seem to have his best stuff today. It's a, it's a final round thing, man. It's totally a thing. He has played awesome golf this year, full credit to him. He's been way more in contention. He is, like, by all accounts back, like, he is back to being a world class player that he kind of, he definitely dipped on there for a few years. But this fourth round thing is, well, I love watching the Vision Fund crash and burn is just tough to watch, because I

still love rooting for Tommy Flewwood. Here, here, I don't have anything to add, man. I mean, what, you know, I hate to kick a guy while he's down in T.C. of course, that is. And I just, I don't know what else, you know, I don't know what you can say that has been said hundreds and hundreds of times at this point. So, you know, you hate it. You hate to see it Kind of love to see it not because of Tommy not because of Tommy Just because of the the acolytes that have hitched their wagon to him I wouldn't be surprised. I need TC to get it there and start like you know, I think between some of the

You know, Rory Some of these pots that went in I think there needs to be some conspiracies floating out there about the PJ tour rigging this thing for for Rory victory, co-sanctioned Scottish open, you know, the the Pied Piper of the PJ tour wins. I'd like to see TC start to go that route and just embrace full on conspiracies, I think. There was, was it a rogue Scottish fan that set up Robert McIntyre with that? Yeah, I could have maybe miscommunication. Maybe they didn't know, you know, both Taylor made golf balls I would assume they didn't get to script. Yeah, I did. Going around just a little confusion, some cross wires, maybe that should be one of the live bots next bit. That's what I'm saying. Is it all faked on this? Yeah, that would be one of the more believable bits that they could come up with. It's been a tough week

for that one. They just good. Yeah. I thought about floating that one out there and just, you know, with some of the audio glitches that were out there. Maybe it was, maybe it was fake reach. Maybe it was all done in a sound stage. We got a lot of this AI stuff going on with the writer strike. You know, maybe Rory went in for his one day as, as an extra, they scanned his face. And now they can just, you know, kind of use him in perpetuity for all these, all these fake victories. We can take that offline, certainly, but I think it's something that I've, I've got my

finger on the pulse of we can guarantee if that was the case that Excel was involved in it. That's because all the way to the top. That's the only thing we can guarantee. Few more leaderboard notes, Scotty Sheffler just doesn't really seem to have it going right now. I hate it seeing that. It was beat by multiple golfers as we two of them, in fact.

And dipped all the way to second in Strokes Gay and T to Green this past week. He made only made 468K for his T3 finish, which lowers his average earnings per start this year. As he is over $19 million earned so far on the broke-ass PGA tour that doesn't pay its players well enough. Now hasn't finished outside the top five since the heritage and hasn't finished outside the top 12 since the C.J. Cup in October. And if we're not counting silly season events, he hasn't finished outside the top 12 since the playoffs last year, since like Memphis or something, he missed the cut. So Ben,

well, I mean, his putting was was is what it is T62 lost two and like 2.2 strokes on the greens this week. So it wasn't quite that if he just put it average, he would have won this week, but he would have finished still with third if he had put it average. But then on Nikolai Hoigard and David Lingmurth or in the final three spots into the open championship, got a shout out my guy, David Lingmurth had missed the cut in nine of his, either with drawn or missed the cut in nine of his last 10 starts, he's been battling some back injuries, goes, makes the trip across the pond, shoots 66, 68 in the worst of the conditions over the weekend and plays his way into the open championship. So congrats to him.

What a grinder, man. I would, I would pay, maybe not a lot, but I would pay some money to just see all 18 holes of his, his round today. Like just show me commentary of like, what club, what yardage, what everything. I would love to just watch a 30 minute supercut of David Lakemer's round from today. A lot of like you said, just five iron from 155, a lot of drivers rolling out to 260. Like just truly like, hey, what would it look like if you got every part of your game to click in a PJ tour of it? Like that's what it would be out there would be. David Lakemer just around today. And that's it's so awesome when he plays well,

man. It's just it's almost unfathomable. His drive on 18 with 233 yards. He left himself 223 in into the win. But he also drove the 13th green today, which was playing down when he drove it 343 yards to 20 feet and two putted for birdie there after hitting a very poor putt if I may say on the first putt. But yeah, it was just proper golf as a fun watching dudes hit, you know, four irons on the par three on the back nine. I'm drawing a blank on what the number is right now. It is the 14th hole watching.

I glory hit six iron today and kind of mishit it and he was yelling at it to go and it barely did get there. But Tom Kim hit four iron, watch another guy say five irons, it's just putting me in a good links mood. Had me checking the forecast for this upcoming week. Doesn't look like we're going to get that kind of wind over again. We might see some gusts around 20 miles an hour, but honestly at this point might be a good thing since we can't even like play golf when it's windy anyways, because the greens are so fast. Yeah. The greens were only like a nine this week. Really?

That's where we're told, like by the end of by Sunday, they were only up at nine and I guess they had not cut them since Friday. I hope I have that right in anticipation of the weather that they got this weekend. But what did you think of moving the, moving the tee times up for the, the win that was coming this afternoon? I mean, it's kind of the classic, like, fence sitting difference between, like, practicality and, and what I would like to see, right? Where it's like, do I ever want to see a tournament move because of wind in fucking Scotland? Like, no, that's kind of what we wait the whole year for is, is like

biblical conditions and watching these guys figure it out and all the things that we praised at the top of the show that we just love when all the, you know, the yardage book numbers go out the window and you're just kind of feeling it out there. Like that's by far the most fun to go off to watch, but also by the time they got to 18, balls are rolling around and, you know, they're not staying still and it would have been you know six hour rounds of golf and then if it goes to Monday now all of a sudden you're pushing into open championship prep which is a net negative I would say and so it's like I get why it happened I guess if it was the open maybe I'd feel a little stronger but if it's kind of a prelude to the open I don't know maybe I guess it is what it is and they got to keep things moving. It's just kind of a bitter pill to swallow, but I understand swallowing it, I suppose.

I think I'd be more upset if they moved it up into a time period that didn't have wind. I mean, they had proper wind today. There was no like easier conditions. I think it's just, if you got to a point at any point where finishing was in danger. I mean, you have a lot of daylight this time of year. So you move it up to the morning. And if you got a delay, middle, like they were close to having a delay near the end, I would think. I mean, Tom Kim's put on 18 started rolling away from him as Roy's getting ready to put for the win. And if more golf had to happen at different parts of the golf course during that part of the day, I could have seen a situation where they would have had to call it. So you

got to move it up in the grand scheme of things. This tournament's not important compared to what's about to happen. Like Monday finish is not an option. It's just not under no circumstances. Because it's like Monday at a major championship is a big deal. It's a big deal from the jump and you cannot let a PJ Torven or DP World Torven roll into major championship week at all costs. Like again, green speeds are, I got a control and golf and have been for quite some time

as a way to combat distance gains. Like it's another trickle down effect of all of this stuff that we've talked about for a long time. And I thought they did a decent job managing it. I think those greens there are a little funkier than a lot of links greens. A lot of links greens are flat and designed to play in a lot of hostile wins. And these are not. And it broke offers aren't used to playing on on slow green.

So it's less than perfect. It's not ideal, but I don't know. It's really hard to fault it if you ask me because we saw it at the end. Roy's hat blew off during the trophy ceremony. Like, there's such a thing as too much wind to play golf in at the highest level. And that was probably pretty close to it. I agree. Want to give a shout out to our friends at Roeback.

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I when you miss a 40 foot putt when the wind is whipping 30 miles an hour, like everyone's playing in these conditions. They were not outrageous. It's just he's flicking off the whole. It's too much. It's past being entertaining to me. And I think I'm kind of done with the stick. It's now it's not working for me anymore.

Well, I appreciate you saying that. I think it's a brave block to be on possibly an unpopular block. I think I certainly get a thrill out of watching it. I think, you know, if you're pro golfers, pro golf is very boring. I think I'd rather somebody miss on the high side. Sure. I see where you're coming from, but I'm going to encourage him to possibly keep swearing even more, you know?

I think I think keep pushing it further and further. It's not swearing. It's like, you don't, there's no possible chance that this is all someone else's fault. Every missed putt, just total exasperation, just blaming something, getting mad at something. I know it's like a coping mechanism for him or whatever he wants to describe, but dude, it's tired now. It's just not, it's not that, it's gone from funny to not that funny anymore. Never, never like playing with that guy. Right. No.

The guy who's like throwing clubs and blaming everything else like that. If I was in the group, I think I would be just right deeply over it. But I think as a fan, when I, you know, I see it maybe once a day, once every couple rounds, once every couple tournaments, you know, I'm in, but I certainly see where you're coming from. All right. Well, I just, O'Neill Matty said, do you know if there's anything we can do to arrange for Tyrrell Hatten to take a flight with Ernie L's? It's about time.

And kid is asked. Someone took into task for behavior like a complete showed. Do we think he purposely plays it up to the cameras now? It's interesting. Is he eligible for the PIP? I would think he would be, right? He would be, right? Yeah. It's interesting. Is he eligible for the PIP? I would think it would be right for remember. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. I don't think that's quite working for him. But I agree. Listen, I'm kind of past the point of caring who we direct the blame at at this point.

It covered sucked this morning. It was not good. I want to start it with this. I for from what you've gathered from your sources, the people you know from the where you see the future of the game. Do you do you think the game will continue to be played outdoors? I mean, this is hard. It's a hard. You're really pinning me to the wall making me make a take on this one bit. I mean, honestly, if you want to get into some of the TGL stuff, and we can we can certainly have a conversation. I don't think it's a non zero chance. But I would say largely, you're going to pin me down. I'm going to say, yes, it will be outdoors. So there's probably going to be scenarios where they have to move the tee times around. Yeah, likely. And they probably still plan to broadcast these events. Right. Do I understand that properly? Do I have that sequence of events?

I think that's right. So we have this thing now that happens when often happens in the summer, especially when there are storms and a lot more stuff seems to happen with weather, where t-times have to be moved. And it is a complete joke to try to find the ways to watch the golf when that happens. Like there was no way to watch live golf, the live finish of the Scottish open on your television today. Like you had to have the CBS sports app. And like, listen, for the diehards out there, it's not that hard to find. We, you know, this is not the first go around with out of this.

This is literally happened at the rocket mortgage. Like we know how to do that. But if there's ever any hope for this game to grow, then literally there's people like, they're trying to watch Rory win a golf tournament today and can't find it. Like imagine, to me, I wanted to go like watch Wimbledon and I know it's a grand slam event

and that's different, whatever. It was pretty easy for me to find that today. Like, and I'm not a really a tennis fan. Imagine like a non golf game like, oh yeah, I wanna kind of, I'm gonna see if Rory can do this. Like yeah, you got download the CBS Sports app after you got to download, you know, it's not on the PCAP, PCoc app, not on the PGA tour app.

Blah, blah, blah. It's you have to find, it's just such a joke, man. And it was a commercial fest. And I guess the CBS had to have the, the world feed. And there was some major disconnects I felt like between the commercial load and the energy flow, they messed up a bunch of audio. It was just a mess. This morning was a total mess and I hated every second of it. Yeah, I haven't done much research as far as like how they staffed it or any of that stuff. But Nance, you know, felt like he was 5,000 miles away. I'm guessing that's because

he was. I don't know if he actually was on site or not, but he just really felt very, very far away and distant and like he was calling it on a computer. And it just, yeah, it just wasn't good. And I'm sure there are myriad reasons and like every Monday morning, I'm sure we'll hear about them tomorrow morning. I'm sure they'll flood our inbox.

And I'm not, again, I'm not even like, I don't know who to blame. It may not be CBS's fault, but like PGA tour, everyone involved all the networks and everything, all the contracts that you guys signed that everyone like came up with this plan to cover golf. That's who I blame. I don't care where the blame lies. I really don't. I'm not trying to assign it. Can we just listen to golf fans that are desperately trying to tell you all we literally want to do is watch your sport on television? Okay. And yes, the weather is going to throw things for a loop every now and then. What was the point of tying hands behind your back with these contracts if you can't do the most basic thing that sports fans are asking you to do?

Especially, and I know this is gross over simplification for many reasons, but especially when you just have a channel called the golf channel. It's tough. That's only supposed to be there to broadcast golf tournaments and just not being able to like flex to that whenever you need to flex to that is brutal. And this archaic idea that you're just going to have people watch tape delayed coverage eight hours later and it's just. It's all green. It's all just ad sales and all this bullshit. It's all this fluff numbers that are all still driven by the 65 year old people that nap on their couch and watch golf on CBS. Which I would think are going to watch either way, right? Is not like the whole point? Is they're going to watch CBS either way? So who cares if it's on golf channel earlier in the morning? Yeah, I can hear somebody saying,

like, no, you don't understand. Like, we don't care. Like, we're going to get the rating, the minimum rating to be able to sell ads and make money for our shareholders. That's the bull. It's just why does CBS have to have this event? Like if NBC is going over to broadcast the open championship, and again, I don't pretend to know like there's no need to have two different networks covering this one, like the two, the UK swing. Yeah, I have no idea how works. I don't know if there's minimums with like the number of network, like the number of events each network has. And if maybe some of that got jostled around with majors or maybe it was women's majors or maybe it was, I don't know, the American

Century championship. That's literally probably why probably they had it. They had it surrounded this week. That's what the, that's what the press really said that that BC will surround the American Century Championship this week. Congrats. In a week that there's two PGA tournaments and a LP sort of, and that's a whole other conversation about that. But I don't know if we want to get into the barbersol or not, but this week it really just, I kind of slammed into the median on, on that one of like, man, if I'm not watching fucking Senate hearings and the barbassol, like we've got too much, I just too much fucking shit on me at this point. I can't breathe. We're just not, we're not doing that. So I'm

not going to be really acknowledging the barbol. I don't think beyond this rant, I think there's plenty of like, oh, but DJ, that's where the good stories are. And that's where these guys are just grinding. And I'm like, you know what? We lost that privilege just years ago here with all this other extraneous bullshit that's going on.

We just can't do both. It's impossible. It's impossible. And all these guys are fighting for a tour that we don't even know if it's going to exist. Like 12 months from now, like who fucking cares at this point? And all due respect, I know, you know, deepest apologies to everybody in the field. I know it's a big deal to win a PJ Tor event, but like, man, you got to see this from my perspective. I just, I can't do it. I can't do it. I won't do it.

That's a, a, a concernately good point about whether or not this tour will even exist in the near future. But these guys are fighting for cards. I'm what fucking tour? Who knows? Who knows, man? How am I supposed to care about any of this? I'm like trying to care about the top 50 for the, you know, the, we've got the playoffs and BMW and all worried about relegation. This is going to lead to designated events and oh my god, this is going to change everything for 24. Who fucking knows? I don't know about any of it. We don't know what any, what's going to happen with any of it.

Like, how does any of this have any context whatsoever, which all I know sounds depressing, but is all just like a big large point to just flash again in the brightest possible lights, the only thing that matters is the majors. And I've never cared more in my life about who wins the open than I do like right now. And I've never cared less about who wins or what is the barbersol than I do right now. I'm just, I'm not, I'm done man.

I don't think we can have all this stuff going on at once. It's just impossible. Definitely at this point of the year. Again, once major start, I still, I will stand for the January through March part of the PGA season. Like, I can, I'm genuinely interested in that. I want to see how that shakes out. I like Heritage. I mean, Memorial has its, has its time, but like once the majors hit, it's seriously hard to get excited about a lot of it. I think I was weirdly excited for the playoffs this year, and that has faded. That's what I'm saying.

Well, now we don't even, like I'm with you, that's where like the whole, when there's context to what these events mean, it changes everything, right? Where it's like, when it was a big deal to say, like, hey, whoever's top 50 after, I guess it would be after going into BMW, right? Like after the first lap of it, whoever's top 50, that makes a huge difference because they're into all the designated events for 24.

And now, like, I can get behind all of that. And like, that makes the chase for all of this make a lot more sense. And it makes whoever's going to rock it up the rankings at the barbersaw. Like, oh, man, now that at least there's a reason to care. Where it's like, yeah, they might get into the top 50 for, you know, for next season. But now it's like, who knows what that's going to be. Players are pissed at Jay and is Jay even around? What's going on with that?

What does 24 look like? How are the live players coming back? It maybe it's just all live. Maybe it's maybe live is the only thing that's going to go. It's like, I guess just kind of wake me up at some point. Like wake me up kind of when it's over and we know what's going on. If I could help you at that,

I would be surprised at this point if there wasn't PJ tour going as planned next year and live going as planned for next year. Like I don't think this is get through. I would also be surprised, I wouldn't be surprised if live totally be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised if live totally goes away. I wouldn't be surprised if I'd be surprised. I'd be surprised if we weren't everything. I wouldn't

like right now I'd be surprised if it went away for next year. I do not think they can get a deal done in time. I don't think they're getting it through justice to part. I just don't I that's they seem really far away from actually getting this thing done. And I'd be surprised if live was gone. I'd be surprised it existed past 24, but I would also be surprised if it didn't make it to 24. Backing up all that, I still think the sky to show up in blueprint is great. The coast

action event between the PGA tour and DP World Tour makes all the sense in the world, coverage, whatever aside from whatever the world feed and the ever the disconnect is getting it, the relay back to the States. It's great seeing like Robert McIntyre would not be going up against Roy McElroy. If that wasn't a coast-nation event because he plays, he is not a PJ tour. I remember it is not put on the PJ tour. And just seeing some some other names, Grant Forest, Jordan Smith, you and Ferguson, they're in the top 12. They're DP World Tour guys.

Just a good mix points, points happen on the FedEx cup and the race to Dubai at the same time. I think it has a ton of potential and I want to see more of these. I want to see a swing in the UK. I want the Irish open lined up against this. I want that to be co sanctioned and have all the guys play in that one. Uh, I don't know what they got to do to get it done. I'm sure there's all the reasons why it doesn't happen, but it just makes too much sense.

It really does. And this is one of the best couple of weeks stretches of the year of golf. Totally agree with with all of that. I'm fully on board. This segment brought to you by our friends at BMW, a worldwide partner of the 2023 rider cup. BMW will be electrifying the rider cup with a fully electric fleet of vehicles for players and officials this September. I hope that includes us. I didn't thought about that. I hope we can hitch a ride in some of those things. But that'd be great. Let's start with Team Europe here.

Let's take a look in. This is our July look in at the standings at what we think is going to shake out. I've reached out to a couple people just to see what they think. I'm where things are going to go. I'm just going to reach the standing. So if you don't know how this works, the top three players will qualify from the European points list. This is only European towards EP World Tour events that count for this. The top three currently are Rory,

Rom and Big Shot Bob McIntyre after this week. He is up eight spots from 11th into third. So he's in the last qualifying spot right now. They four behind him are Janik Paul, DJ's guy, Adrian Moronk, aka the big Moronkowski. Rasmus Hoygard is sixth and Victor Perez is seventh. We can get into some of that. I think it just a no worthy thing is where I could see Europe being vulnerable is the third spot on that list, getting grabbed by one of the guys there

that may fall out of form by that time. But the next three that are not qualified on the Europoints list come from the world points list, which is all the golf world wide. Those three spots are now Victor Hovlin, Tyrrell Hatton, and Fitzpatrick. So again, the six spots, if I'm reading them off, Rory, Rom, Macintyre, Hovlin, Hatton, and Fitzpatrick will be the six auto qualifiers right now. That leads on the outside looking in Tommy Fleetwood, Sep Strocka, Shane Lowry, Justin Rose,

Adrian Moronkas is also there on the world points list and Shamist Power would be making through the rest of that world points list. What are you doing a few year after right now? How are you feeling if you're up? And what does your team look like if you are a Luke Donald? I feel cautiously optimistic. I feel like if this is a little slider,

right, like you're kind of like how do you feel? If that's a slider starting in January, I think it was slid way, way, way further towards the US, then it maybe is now on January 16th or 17th whenever you're listening to this. I do feel like the Euro teams kind of taken shape a little bit. I kind of put together,

like I guess it'd be like my one to 12 and we can get into like the different points lists and kind of how they shake out, but this is kind of my like one to 12, I guess power rankings of how they, how they're gonna shake out. Would you like me to read them? Absolutely.

Number one, Rory, number two, ROM, those are interchangeable. Obviously, number three, Haveland, four, Hatton, five fits Patrick, six, Fleetwood, seven, Lowry, I think quietly playing like pretty solid golf, like very high floor right now, even though he hasn't really made a lot of noise. Number eight, unfortunately, team Rose. Number nine, I got Sep Strocca coming off his, his win at the John Deere playing pretty good golf drives it really straight. I think just kind of a good course fit. Number

10, I don't know if he's going to make it on either of those points list, but I think Maronke is his in. I really like him. I think he's played great at Marcos Mone. It just feels like a great, great fit, new, young blood. Number 11, give me big shot Bob. I know it's like, you know, I know it's Reasonsy Bias. I know it's a lot of things, but I do feel like there is something I'm gonna sound like Tron here, but there's something about when you get into this part of the season and you know that like every start counts towards the rider cup, and you just you have to show up. And I love seeing them show up in a really freaking big way today. I thought that was that was a blast. He's won at Marco Simone in the past. I think you won the Italian Open what last year? Out there. And so, you know, I love to see it again. It's it's one

of those guys that seems like everybody loves them. Seems like it'd be a great kind of, you know, locker room guys, stupid as that is, but a good guy to pair with. And, you know, it's kind of an exciting one. Number 12, who do you think I'm going with? Ludwig. Number 12 is Ludwig, I'm my team. And I think we've talked about this a lot in the past. And it's like, do you want to gear towards young blood or do you want to gear towards, you know, the numbers and the stats and all of those things? Certainly that's Luke Donald's choice

and the analysts that he works with and all of that. But I think like, man, if you're building towards the future and you're building towards trying to make another superstar and trying to make another Victor Hovelin and trying to make another, you know, Fleetwood and Fitzpatrick and these guys that I know Fitzpatrick hasn't played great in the Ryder Cup, but you know what I'm saying, you're trying to do player now. Yeah, you're trying to build a future kind of monster in these events. Like, do I think it's Yonic Paul?

I don't. Do I think it's Victor Perez? I don't. Do I think it's one of the like Rasmus Whiteguard? Maybe. I don't, do I think it's Victor Perez? I don't, do I think it's one of the like Rasmus toy guard? Maybe, but like I legitimately think Ludwig's floor is kind of as high as, as high as a lot of these guys, right? And I think it's sealing his way higher. And there's just some irrational confidence

that happens to these guys when they first come out of college. Ludwig hasn't missed a cut on the PGA tour, which is fucking unbelievable until this week until this week. Sorry. Data golf had an updated yet, but it's unbelievable to come out and like just start swinging like a lot of these guys do and I think harnessing that and And just getting that on the team is is nothing but good. I mean, I think that 12 spots kind of a kind of a craps you anyways I know Billy Bean and you know, money balls gonna me differently. And you're just scrapping and clawing. So every every bit of, you know, don't see. You see this stuff, but that's, that's where I'm going with. Dude, Ludwig's number nine on my list. Like he's not even 12. No, he's not 12 spot. Like, no way.

Absolutely not. I mean, my, my list goes. Rom, Rory, Hofflin, Hatton, Fitz, Tommy, Lowry, Rose is the top eight. I think that's, I don't think anyone's going to have that. Same with you. Yeah, same with you. Ludwig is a no-brainer. Like, there's no, almost nothing he could do between now and then that I wouldn't want to take him on the team.

Like, the talent is obvious. And you are not going to have four other guys beat down the door and play that good golf that have his high of a ceiling and could have the week he possibly has. And it's going to be a huge part of the future of this team as as a burguis. There's there's he's he's he's dying to get to the rider cup. He's so old. He's never been a part of one of these teams. Like it's time to get him in one of these. It look, I don't even think it's a discussion at this point really because looking back on this, they're going to look so dumb by 2025, because he's going to be probably one of the top 10 players in the world by that point that they didn't have him on this team when they had an underdog team

and they had no one that they just don't have the depth. Would Ludwig make the US team is an interesting question right now. That would be a close call, but he's that level talent. And he just, you know, if he had enough starts to get it, to get it done, he would take care of it. So he's right. Let me pause you there. Do you think that's going to happen though? Who seems very stupid decisions made in the past year?

It's it's not, we're in a different era, man, of, of, you can't, the, you can't hide the numbers that he's already come up with in terms of how he drives the golf ball. I guess this is going to be a driving contest. Again, it's not the accuracy contest that LaGolf National was like, this is based on the number crunching that I've seen. It's a combo of power and accuracy. We're rewarded around the same amount.

Whereas LaGolf National was way down and powered in distance and way up in accuracy, right? So you got to do both of those things. He is long and accurate. Do you like put them on the team? Yeah, if he has a good iron week and good wedge, we can good putting week. He's gonna do some serious damage. So that's over I'm putting Adrian Moronkin that 10 spot right now. I'm winning at the Italian Open definitely sealed the deal for that one. I hate pointing to the peak weeks. I think it's a major flaw a ton of people have and filling up these fictitious teams that don't really matter anyways. It is when and get in SCN, which is a bit of a it's tough for they were saying, I'm surely Robert McAdar's locked up a rider cup spot was performance this week. It's like, yeah, I mean, guys, like he's he's been a below

average professional golfer for for the season. I mean, let's let's not one week doesn't snap you into automatically having one of those spots. So if we are going next week, I'm taking Robert McIntyre coming off this week and given his history at the at this golf course at Marcos Simone. So I would put him in 11. I would res I'm reserving though the final two spots until we get closer because it can cycle many, many times. Well, that's no fun. I know. I'm going to give you the names, but like, yeah, okay. I'm not saying I'm fully committed to taking Big Shot Bob to Marco Simone. But last but same justification as the Ludwig one, I'm going Nikolai Hoigard.

No step, Shraka. No, I don't know how you how you trust him. I really don't. It's so up and down it I know he just I mean it was very interesting that you you kind of led there like how you're good you're feeling about team Europe after you know Siting the win at the John Deere as a big tiebreaker there like that's great like he that was a great final round and a great performance But like I don't know why that means more than the T64 T38 and cut great performance, but like I don't know why that means more than the T64 T38 and cut

in the three weeks before that cut being at the US open on a relatively big stage. I know he finished T7th the Master or at the PGA this year. That's obviously a great finish, but I just I don't know. I don't know if I trusted the accuracy is an interesting thing. Maybe they bring them on the team to play a specific role when it comes to four sums and you know the accuracy holes or whatever that I haven't worked out how that's going to work, but still would need to see more from step. I think he's on the radar, but I would need to see a little bit more pretty similar teams. I think so. I love it. That's exciting. I asked Jamie. He has Jamie Weir, of course, of course, sports. His final two spots are stepstroata and Bob McIntyre. So he was the same exact team as you, I believe. So really with moronke Ludwig strata and McIntyre filling out the bottom. So which I know

that's hard for him to trim that down to just 12 players because he wants to take about 35 guys there. Is the US side as fun as team Europe right now to figure out? Uh, I think there's a little bit of fun down towards the bottom, just if you really, depending on how much weight you want to put on current form, right? So I think we can probably go blow for blow here. I'd be curious, did you do one through 12 as well? Yes, I think so. I can do it on the spot. Okay. Number one, number one, Scott, obviously, Galei. Scotty number one. I put Brooks at number two just because I think I'm team. Yeah. Feels right. Uh, can't lay Xander, whatever choice, whatever option you want to put them in three and four. Uh, I think wind them Clark at five. I think a big dick Rick at six. Wow.

Just because we're look now we're starting to get into current form, SZN. And I think we're looking at SpeedJT and our beloved Max and Moorakawa. It's not going to be great. Max is starting to show a little more form, which is exciting. And I certainly wouldn't mind another scare of another W for our guy. It's been a little bit of a lean summer for Max. But Speed's been fine.

JT's been, it's not kind of totally MIA. More Kala, a little bit of injury, flashed a little bit of form, but not great. So that, I think that's what made me put Ricky ahead of all those guys just because he, you know, until I bet on him, seems like he can't lose. Ricky's been the second best American in stroke, skated over the last three months, only to Scottie, Shephler. Yeah, he's, he, Sheffler. Yeah.

He's going to be on this team. Unless it totally falls apart. But he was already going to be on it before winning the Rocket Mortgage, and that was a deal sealer, and pretty much everyone's eyes. I have to think. You got any changes to those top 10, and you feel solid there? Was that 10? Our names already?

That was 10. Okay. If you include JT, Spieth, Moor, Kawa, and Homa. Yeah. Oh, now I thinkawa, and Homa. Yeah. Oh, now I think 11 and 12 kinda is interesting. I think it's also worth saying are JT and Max, are they on the team? Are they in?

I think JT is, because he's JT, and I think I don't know who in that room is saying, like leave JT at home. You know, I think they're gonna be big big like he'll figure out the putter, he'll figure out everything when he gets there. Like, and you know, for better or worse, I think that's gonna be the prevailing thought. I think you should be on the team.

I think you know, this is kind of the thing that I've seen before for a long time is like, I think guys do tend to find it over a small sample size on these types of events, but I don't know. I think there's a Jimmy Chitwood. I'll make a good shit kind of. Yeah, I think that's, I think that's right, which could totally like, again, as somebody who doesn't really root super hard for the US or for Europe in this event, and I feel a little bit like a man without a continent here, I think JT going over is really good content, right?

Like no matter what happens, I think it's going to be captivating. We'll watch. I feel the exact way I've said multiple times in this pod, it was like, dude, I mean, you took Sergio in years where he was down and he he balled out the Ryder Cup. JT is 16, 5 and 3 in US team player, something like that. 6, 2 and 1 in the Ryder Cup was the best player on the team in France. It's weird to say like, yeah, I made the cut this week. See, he's not totally dead, which is not the strongest endorsement.

But a lot of time between now, yeah, not a lot of time, but there's time to kind of get some stuff sorted over the coming weeks and months. Max has never been on the Ryder Cup team. Obviously, he was on the president's cup team and was successful. Is it a harder hurdle for him to clear to make this team? I think it is. Obviously, I think it is, obviously. I think he's the kind of guy that I think they're dying to make it easy for him to be on the team.

I think he's taken all the pre-req classes. I think he's a shoe in if he's just got any kind of form going in, which again, it was 20th or 21st and Detroit. And then I think he was what top 15 this week in Scotland. So he seems like he's, he's kind of got his feet back under him. Big week at the open would help a ton. We've, we've talked at Nazim about the majors and putting too much pressure on the majors

and not being able to back it up and missing too many cuts at the majors and being irrelevant at the majors and like a lot of that stuff is is not nothing certainly, but I don't know who's jumping off the page ahead of him as far as like players that that guys want to be in the locker room with players that guys want to be paired with elite ball strikers really good drivers of the ball. Like I mean, I think he's he's got every possible box check to we just you know, he kind of needs to needs to have some solid form over the next month or so here. And that's where I get the sense again,

just from, as I say it out loud, probably not the best way to do it, but just from reading Twitter that people maybe don't have the most appreciation for, at least how it feels like the US team process works now currently is, it's a group of dudes are going to figure this out more than it is. Zach Johnson, I have a feeling like they're going to, it's going to be, uh, you know, if

you're considering Jordan's speed on this team, who's not playing some good golf in recent weeks, like he's going to want JT on that team. And like the rest of the guys are going to want JT on that team. And if it comes down to like max or Taylor Gooch, I know exactly how that's going to go, right? A guy that they're going to look forward to having in the team room versus a dude that, you know, left the PJ Torren sued these guys on the way out in his playing 54 whole events to test himself now. Like that's not I think if it's no or I think if it's some of these other guys and this is no disrespect to, you know, Danny McCarty or Kurt Kiyama or Harris English or,

I mean, even Sam Burns is like being wildly inconsistent. Cam Young, who knows what's going on with him? Like, I just, I feel like Max is a stronger, stronger case than a lot of these guys. So we've thrown out a lot of names. And I think if we're agreeing on the same tenant and putting JT, Speed, and Max all on the team, we have to pick two between Cam Young, Sam Burns, Tony Fienau, Danny McCarthy, hair singlet. Like we're basically if we, we're leaving one of Cam Young, Sam Burns or Fienau out. Is that right? That's, that's

correct. I had who's your 11? You go first. Oh, God, they're not, they're all training the wrong way. That's what I'm saying. It's getting more interesting, man. Cameron Young has been bad. Like not, yeah, not like ready to be there. Uh, females not been very good. Sam Burns has just been pretty mad. Um, I don't think they're playing a bermuda either in Margas, I'm going to, I'll, I'll give you my 11.

You know how hard I ride for my guy. Oh, God. Let's do a big tone. I think big tone still has the highest floor of kind of the chest pieces on the board. I think so too. I think Finaus Finaus on the team in that spot. I think McCarthy is going to have to really beat down the door. And if I'm looking over the last three months, he has. There's another guy you're looking over that you haven't mentioned yet. Who's, it was in my number 12 spot, which is, uh, T.C.

Boy, Keegan. Yeah. I think Keegan's, I think Keegan's on right now. I think Keegan would make it over. It's so tough. Like I feel like Keegan's playing at his ceiling. And I don't know if he will be come September and I know, but we know burns and we know young half more in the tank, right?

So do you think you're going to get that out of the 12 spot or do you want? I don't know. I don't know what to do with that. It's hard. It's getting interesting. Would you would you agree my your theoretical ball is moving? Your probability or your your gut or whatever you want to call it. Yeah.

Some I think I still think the US has a talent depth over the Europeans, but obviously when you add in the European factor that seems to be a huge entrance, it's certainly interesting. Bears repeating to the listeners, they haven't won on European soil in what? 31 years, 32, 93. Yeah, it's 1993. Oh, there goes that ball again. It just moved just inched a little bit, a little over to the right. Again, these numbers don't mean anything, but to start the year, data golf had the US winning at 61% Europe at 32. The spread got as high as 65 to 28 at one point in mid April. And it is now 59% US 33% Europe. So it's it's the data matches the eye test.

Yeah. It's definitely it's getting closer. It really is. I'm getting upset to get excited. And a little out of that's because of all the other bullshit. I think that's going on. But man, I can focus on this for the next couple of months. I don't know how many more Senate hearings I can do. I just hope it's close. I hope it's interesting. I don't want either. I wouldn't mind the US blowing them out, but I don't want to. I definitely don't

want the American skip blown out. You haven't got a chance to, we did a recording, we did a podcast on the Senate hearings on Tuesday. Do you have anything to kind of add or anything that any gut feelings after what we learned this past week? Feels like a forever ago already. It does feel like a forever ago. I really don't have much to add.

I kind of thought I would and I kind of thought I would have a whole notebook full of thoughts and this person said this and what this meant was actually this and blah blah blah blah and I'm kind of hitting the wall of man, I just I'm I'm losing steam about how much I can give a shit about the the back room stuff at this point, like I think what was what was always firing me up about a lot of the like palace intrigue stuff was how it was going to affect the product like on the field, so to speak, right? And I think when we get into like the Delaware stuff, it's like, oh man, we're reshaping how this is going to look and how these playing opportunities are going to be and what event, what, you know, the heritage is going to look like five years from now and what, you know, how cards are going to be distributed and all of these things and now we're just getting into like, just all the other bullshit in every other industry in the whole world, right? Like it's just turning into everything else

and it's conspiracies now and it's like, all these, you know, senators talking about all their stupid ass pet issues and it's just like, I just kind of felt like really numb and dystopian watching it. And from like a golf perspective, I just, I don't give a shit anymore. I think it's kind of how I feel. I still really care about like what happens and what tours do guys play on. And, you know, I like, what happens if the deal falls apart. And like the X is a nose. I still care about it. Like, man, that like what happens if the deal falls apart and like the X is a nose I still care about but like, man, the like who's in front of what subcommittee

of day by day stuff is where I'm like, I think I got other shit to do with my time. I just I really don't care anymore. And that's, that feels like kind of packing, packing up my toys and going home, but it's a little like, like what do you want me to do? Like what do you want me to weigh in on, on some of this stuff, right? It's like, oh, well, when fucking Ron Johnson said this, like, what that could actually be connected to is this. And this is like,

who fucking cares? Like, just tell me what's going to happen with with some of the golf stuff, because it just feels like we're, we've never been farther from that being the case. You know, and it's, it's fun and it's kind of, it's fun to get into the drama and, you know, how, how, uh, you know, Jimmy Don answered questions versus Ron Price versus like all these, it's, but other than that, it's like, it just feels kind of empty and hollow and gross. Yeah. I, uh, I've said this many times since June 6th, that I don't really know what I'm rooting for. I don't feel like I understand what is happening or what is going to happen or what golf is going to look like.

Or that's again, why we've at least I've been accused many times of being a PGA tour shill was like, dude, I can pretty decide pretty easily between the PGA tour and live as to which one I think is more interesting. That was not a difficult decision, which was truly choosing between the lesser of two evils of an organization that we've taken to task for many, many, many times

over the years. And now it's like, I don't know what, I'm totally with you that when the designated event stuff came out and it was like, do it all the best players going to play together. Here's how we're improving the product. This is going to be better. I'm like, do this is better for golf fans. And I just, I don't look at no one is talking about any of the ways this is going to be better for golf fans. They're on the one inch line of their own territory. As far as moving this forward,

players haven't approved it. DOJ hasn't approved it. It's at the fucking Senate hearings now on the floor. You know, Josh Holly demanding that Ron Price renounce China. It's like, that's the stage of this that we're at. Like, how are we supposed to believe that this is going to end with entertaining golf? And it just seems like an absolute minefield to get it through player approval that are that are pissed, players are pissed. Jordan Speath made comments in the public this week about trust issues. Scottie Sheffler made made comments. They enter sharply made comments and I don't, yeah, the news that came out with the, this since we recorded that was that the clause of, or the, whatever part of the agreement

that said the tours couldn't poach players from the other tour that has been removed from the framework agreement. So we've gone backwards in terms of things that are actually agreed upon. Now this came at a request of the DOJ basically saying like you can't have this in there. I was surprised there wasn't more reaction to this when it happened. I thought the the live bots would have ran with us and said open season like we're about to see everyone flood flood for the exits but I didn't really see a whole lot of that. And I think it it does at least go to show that we've learned in the last week that like both sides want this deal to happen. Or I should say the tour executive team and the Saudis want this to happen. I don't know if the players do yet. If they know enough about it to want it,

but it clearly signals the that lives in the Saudis intentions are to, to, to merge this thing. It seems like it. And I think from the reaction standpoint, what you mentioned, I mean, I think everybody's, like nobody can agree on anything other than the fact that, like, nobody really knows what's gonna happen. I feel like everybody's almost, it feels a little bit like a,

you know, the end of the good bat in the ugly with the three-way standoff going on. Like nobody quite wants to fire because they're gonna, you know, nobody wants to get on old takes exposed, I think. But it truly, it goes back to what we're saying half hour ago. It's like, like I have no idea what's gonna happen. None of it would surprise me at any point. None of it would shock me. I just feel like I just feel pretty numb about all of it.

And that's like, I think what is kind of a bummer about it is like, I was talking to talking to somebody about this with regards to another industry. It was like movies and TV and stuff. And when you get into this world where it's like everything is either, it's just so hypersensationalized where like everything is either the Super Bowl, the only thing that matters, the pinnacle of everything, or it is like, this is totally irrelevant, this is bullshit, why would I care about this? It's kind of how golf has felt for like a really long time. And the hard truth about a lot of this is that most golf falls

in the middle of that. And I feel like I've just, I almost feel like I've just like eaten too much ice cream, right, with all the like drama that's going on. And now I just feel like I can't, can't just have like normal food anymore. Like when you want it, like you're talking about, you know, trying to get hyped for, like, what am I going to get hyped for the wind him and for like the wind number war. It's got wraps up that way. 3M coming up. It's like, what the hell do you want me to do with this, man? Like we've got, we've got a Senate hearings and the fate of humanity on on golf channel one day. And now you expect me to care about like Thursday at TPC,

whatever the hell it's called in Minnesota, like, no thanks. And that's where I don't know how the downstream effect of that doesn't just undermine like years and years of golf watching after this. Does that make sense? Yeah, I mean, it's kind of, I've made this analogy, but it's kind of like 1994 baseball strike of like dude, I mean, you take this away like you, you know, you have a bunch of the stars split for some time. The interesting golf is going to wane a little bit in that time period and like you bicker

and fight about this and you all this greed that has happened in pro golf people. It's going to lose their appetite for it. And it's not, it's more, it's like NBA free agency. It's been more fun and interesting to follow, you know, the ups and downs and the back and forths of the drama that is the actual golf. And for sure. And I think for their part, like the NBA, like Love It or Hate It has pretty clearly adopted

the role of like pretty nimble progressive nuanced league that's like willing to try new stuff and willing to kind of be at the cutting edge of things I do I think the PJ Dores that fuck no man like what I think they're gonna totally reinvent themselves and like win all these people back Like absolutely not and that's where I think I'm kind of almost I don't know try not to see around the corner too far, but it's almost like man to your point like what happens after the baseball strike I think it's gonna get like like pretty bleak for golf. And maybe not for the majors, right?

Like maybe I think interest in golf, and this is a whole other conversation that I think is like really interesting is we've said this all the time, like the golf between pro golf and golf has like never been bigger than it is right now. Like there's so much interest in the game of golf and I just don't know how you retain that in pro golf. And I don't know how you retain that in pro golf when it's this fractured and there's this much shit going on and there's this much shit to follow

and there's this many now we're gonna roll out TGL stuff and now we're gonna roll out another Netflix series and now we're gonna roll out. It's just like, God, man, it's just enough. I don't know how anybody could possibly in the right mind, like keep track of all this stuff. On the LPGA tour this past week, speaking of Moore golf, Lynn Grant announces her arrival on the LPGA tour stage, winning the Dana Open in Sloveniaia Ohio. I got a great kick. She went by one by three

shots over Alison Corpus, who might be on her way to world number one. She's absolutely ballin out. Lingerie shot 21 under Alison Corpus shot 18 under. 18th hole par five, back, back par fives to finish on this

golf course. The the penultimate group is on the green putting out and Lingerie hits good drive and just hits. I assume to be three wood as hard as she can from the fairway while they're still putting out lands it on the green and rolls up to like 25 feet, just totally hit into the group in front of them. I don't think she thought she could get there and was kind of surprised by it, but it was a funny moment as she burst through the door to a two putte to victory and win it by three and win

262,000 dollars. So it's time. It's Lynn Grant time. This happened very quickly. It is. And I'm looking forward to hearing Randy and Cody and the gang unpack it a little bit more on a future LPGA pod, but it's almost like kind of feels like that legend of that that kid that lives a couple towns over. Yeah. Right? That you've like you've heard about and you're like, oh God, when we get to the playoffs or we get to regional, we get to whatever, they're just gonna mop the floor with us.

That kind of feels like what Lynn Grant has been the last couple of years. It's like, man, if you know you know, she's coming and it's gonna be ugly. She's gonna win often, she's gonna win a lot. And now it seems like we're finally seeing it. I think this is what our third start in the US, which is, which is, you know, just awesome, kicking the kick in the damn door down. But she has kind of just been beating up the world

stage for the last like two years. And it's really fun to see your breakthrough stateside. Yeah, she was famously not able to compete in the US due to not being vaccinated. Now that has been lifted, she is able to and comes over and just she this is our first regular LPGA event. She put the match play. That was her first actual stateside one, then she put those two majors. Yeah, fourth one. And then first like stroke play non major event. And she goes on wins the pilot, almost shot 59 in round three and statement statement when Maria Fossi

citing on the leaderboard too she finished solo six so it's I never know when it when it's gonna happen with her but it's good to see her playing some good golf as well Lydia Cohen out in 44 today because she was playing lift clean in place even though that was not in play for today. She took a lot of penalties. I saw somebody, I forget who it was that commented on there. I think it was Lisa Cordell actually brought that to Randy's attention on Twitter. Randy's on a little Twitter. He did this week. I enjoyed shit out of that. He finally started fighting back a little bit. There's so funny stuff in there if you want to check that out.

Then speaking of fractured golf world, Nelly Cordo wins the Ramco team series event, which I did not know was happening in New York. So it's always fun to get everyone divided up and play in different locations and diluting the fields. That's working really great on both sides of the men's and women's side of professional golf. So any highlights from the, what was your favorite moment of the American Century championship

this past week? God, it's hard to pick one. It's so cool. No, I saw the Steph Curry Ace was, you know, he seemed very excited about that. I, I, be honest, that was the only thing I saw. Was there, was there anything else to add to the list? I don't know. T.C. wanted us to get to the list? I don't know.

TC wanted us to get mad about Onica playing in this thing. I don't have the energy to muster that up. TC, I think I'm so mad about it. I just had better not even address it because I don't know what I'm gonna say. I can't be held responsible for what I'm gonna say. I will say to the barbersault, I think to his point, he was very mad about her competing in majors and then also competing as a celebrity

in a competitive golf tournament. TC, I think I would, you know, you might have to fight that one on your own. Another cool development in the Barbosol was we're recording this Vincent Norman and Nathan Kimsey are going to a playoff right now, which is a Vincent Norman is a European, he's a sweet but plays on the PGA tour, and Nathan Kimsey plays on the DP World Tour, is in this event. He is from England,

and they're in a playoff in the Barbersolts. So seeing the strategic alliance kind of work out, that's a interesting little wrinkle of this thing. That's good. You know, I should on it earlier, but that seems like a net positive. Vincent Norma is a very solid player. Yes.

He's kind of, you always look for those, you know, the big deltas between like the data golf and the OWGR, right, like when the OWGR hasn't quite caught up yet or whatever, I think he's, he's 129 in data golf and 286 in the world rankings. So, and before I got to put some shackles on, before TC tries to claim him, I would like to go

back to a January podcast of 2021 after I watched him play the Tim Aquana collegiate, which he won. He was a, I think he came from Georgia, Southwestern state. In the early part of his career, it was extreme late bloomer transferred to Florida State for a senior year. It was a total world beater at Florida State. And I want he's just absolutely mashed the ball. It was screaming tour player as of when he was a senior in college.

And he is may have just gotten himself in trouble in the playoff. I couldn't know that was the other guy. Sorry. But he can mash it and he's someone to watch going forward. Steve's trick or when his third senior major of the year, that was news to me. He's not aware they his third senior major of the year. That was news to me. He's not aware they had a major this week. Yeah, Firestone one.

Hell yeah. Is that the senior players? I don't know. Good say, but you play a little golf this week. Why don't you tell us about that? I did. I did play a lot of golf this week. We did a, the fabulous people at the Wisconsin State Golf

Association, particularly Rob Janssen, the executive director. He does all kinds of like, he has like a very small kind of tourism budget that as he explained it is basically like, hey, let's, let's see what we can do each year to kind of shine a light on how much good golf there is in Wisconsin. Maybe get people planning their buddy's trips here, things of that nature. And this year, he was like,

you know, we've done this thing in the past where we've tried to show off, you know, there's 10 top 100 public golf courses in the state of Wisconsin. We've played them over 10 days. We've showed, you know, how much breadth and depth there is and in Wisconsin golf. Like, what if we played them in two days,

which made me laugh out loud when I heard it, but I was kind of like, man, that sounds impossible. Let's definitely do it a lot of way in. It was kind of one of those perfect challenges of like every time you told people about it, it was kind of like, yeah, I don't know if you could do that or not. I'm genuinely curious to see if that's possible. And Rob scheduled everything down to the minute. curious to see if that's possible. And Rob scheduled everything down to the minute, and we just, we had a blast, man. We had such a fun time running around

and trying to hit all of our deadlines because the big thing with it was like, you know, it's the middle of summer and Wisconsin, the weather's beautiful. It's not like you just wipe out T-sheets for like the whole day, right? So you're trying to like truly get it in where you can fit it in.

And if you miss a T-time anywhere, it's kind of like dominoes falling and it's just going to like screw up the whole the whole day. So there was a couple of things on the itinerary that just kind of almost like maybe breaking a cold sweat like for instance, day two started with we had to, according to Rob's itinerary, we had to walk mammoth dunes in an hour and 40 minutes, which is just a heavy sentence to like, let's sink it, right? Because not only do you got to walk it an hour or 40 minutes, you got to tee off at like 4.40 AM. Oh my God.

Because I think our claim to fame from this, that was my friend Steven Watson and I that did it. I think we had first tracks at two different golf courses, two days in a row. So we were the first off of two different golf courses, two days in a row, which was really impressive. So we went out and played, the first course we played was the Irish course

at Wistling Straits. We teed off there about 20 to five and had to be done in order to be the first group off at the Straits, which we did. And we finished the Straits by the time the first group of the day was finishing the ninth hole, which was pretty impressive. And then the next day was similar at San Valley. We had to play mammoth dunes and get done before the first public tee time on San Valley,

which was like 650. So it was like, yeah, whatever you, well, here's some global. I was like, if you want to start early, go ahead. You just, you got to be done by 647 and off the first tee at San Valley. And after that, you can do whatever you want to start early, go ahead. You just, you, you got to be done by 647 and, and off the first T at San Valley. And after that, you can do whatever you want. Are you, are you to your own bag at Mammothtoons? Are you seven clubs? Are you just walking up and hitting it?

Are you gun and yardages? How do you play in an hour or 40 minutes walking? I did a half set. I, we had a caddy. So Rob, you know, both for our own physical and mental health and also just to kind of show off the the fine offerings of all these places, arranged caddies for everywhere that we were walking. So we walked four of them, Wistling Straits, mammoth, sand valley and Aaron Hills, places that are walking only and then we took cards at the other places. And so wherever we were walking, he had caddies.

And so we had some some junior caddies at sand Valley for both the mammoth and San Valley round who totally knew what they were getting and getting into I had an amazing caddy name Rose who was phenomenal. We had such a blast. And she showed up she was there at, you know, ready to go. Actually, I think they met us on like the third hole because we found these global and we're like, let's just, let's just go. Like we need to earn every minute counts here. It's like the bear. Like, you know, every second counts, we got to get out there and just get moving. Just tell the caddies we're going to be at like number two. So we did half sets and a little like Sunday bag out there for that one.

What was the highlight? That round was probably the highlight, honestly. It was so fun. Like just knowing that you had to, like, there's no other option, right? Like it's, it's like, you can't really like, you don't want to be out there and like, all these people are paying all these money to play all these golf courses. You don't want to be like, hey, we're doing this like dumb gimmick. Can we play through you?

And you don't want to like ruin anybody else's experience. So you really, really want to hit your times. And not only that, just like, functionally, it's like, hey, Lasoni is holding a T-time for us at 1.30 pm. So we've got to get these three rounds of golf done, and this drive done by 1.30. Like, we've got to be there. We can't miss it. So it's like, your back almost feels against the wall

for 18 holes. It was like, weirdly, really fun. And it kind of like makes you lock in. And weirdly, play like really good golf. Both of us played really good. Steven played better than I did. We decided to play a hundred and eighty whole match. And I got beat 25 and 24, which was tough.

But that sounds like you ran out of holes though. I did run out of holes. Actually, it's funny. You say that because the other highlight, I think was Aaron Hills, which, you know, you could, if you're going to really pick nits at any part of this, any part of this plan, maybe ending with the walk at Aaron Hills was a little tough. I think it's a good like eight, eight and a half mile walk out there.

Anybody who's been out there knows what a big ballpark that is. So we got out there and played like awful, awful golf. The first nine, chopped 47, just, just like spirits were really low, especially after having played like pretty solid golf the first nine rounds. And then it was like, I don't know what it was, man. It was just the sun starts going down.

That place is so beautiful in the sunset. I think we started drinking that probably helped. But my wife, Justine showed up, because just functionally, because we needed to ride home. But she showed up and walked the back nine with us. A couple of Stevens friends showed up and then a couple of Ness members showed up.

And by the end of it, we had a pretty good gallery going. And so I started, I'm not gonna give you the whole blow by blow, but ended up three punting for Bogey number 10 and then played the rest of it in, I guess, two under after that. And so, I'm almost shot one under on the back and just like had had such a fun time, man. It was, it was awesome.

Damn, that's awesome. What a credible experience at the, I still don't like to talk aboutino when he set the world record for for most golf played in a week I still don't like can't physically picture it. I don't know how you get around in that short of time But I look forward to seeing the content that's gonna come from it. Yeah, we had a good crew with us Dylan block and Jason Yankee who who kind of captured the whole thing for what'll be kind of like a short film for the WSGA Websites should be should be really cool. So it was, it was fun, man. It will tell you what, it was going out and playing.

We played the Irish course and I think probably an hour and I don't know, 39 minutes, hour and 42 minutes, something like that was like our first round of golf and that was in carts, your cruise and like we each got your own cart. That's easy. You're not really waiting for the other guy to tee off. You're just kind of like hitting your shot, going back to the cart, taking off. So you get into like a pretty easy rhythm.

And then we played the Straits course in like 240 or something like that, which is no slouch of a walk either, but good caddies there as well. And by the time we got to Black Wolf run the river course, that was when we like ran into public play for the first time, interminable, just like unbelievable. We still played like 3.45, like they were fine, but it was like the difference between those two rounds

was just, I don't know how, all of this is building towards, like I don't know how a PJ tour player can like go play slow competitive golf. It is, it blows my mind. When I wasn't thinking about anything and I was truly just walking up, seeing it, hitting it, finding it, hitting it again, like, it's easy to play a good golf. But when you're just sitting there waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, it is such another skillset, man. I can't believe people can do it.

Do you keep some stats, water bottles, shoot changes, golf balls, anything? I tried to. I can tell you I wore a rotating cast of three different pairs of shoes, tried to change socks between every at least every walking round. I started keeping those stats through the first like round or two and then like we're just playing so fast that like actually like sitting there and like writing out the stats at the end of the hole was where it was like, yeah, this has got to go. We don't we don't have time for this. It was it was hard to actually like even just tweet out at the end of the rounds. Like, what our time was and what our, you know, what our scores were and all that stuff was like, God, it's gonna take me three holes

to like find a second to actually like post this tweet because we're trying to just fly and keep things moving. Did it make you wanna play more golf or wanna hang the clubs up for a while? No, I was, I was, felt totally rejuvenated about golf. I was ready. I could have done 36 more the next day. I was, I was feeling was felt totally rejuvenated about golf. I was ready. I could have done could have done 36 more the next day I was feeling feeling pretty good I feet were a little sore just from a lot of a lot of walking had a toenail that still doesn't look great

Where you know it's touching go on whether he's gonna get a hang on it But other than that like body felt body felt totally fine totally fine. Swing felt, felt pretty good. Like, you know, I think my swing, I was telling you guys on Slack this week, I don't, my swing might be ugly. It might not look great, but I don't think it's injury prone. I think it's, it's built to last, which I think is, is good. There was, there was no soreness the next day. I think you should send that toenail of the Wisconsin golf hall fame.

Maybe I will. That's a good idea. That would be an interesting thing. God, how cool of that, man. Document for history's sake. Yeah. New irons. How good are those? I don't even know if we can talk about them yet, but the new title of sirens, the T-Series are. Really, really solid. Yeah, I unfortunately was, my mouth got a little ahead of my brain, I thought that the rest of them were going to show up. All the shut up was the four iron.

And so I had some back ordered shafts. Don't cry for me. They'll be here soon, but I haven't gotten the 150s yet. So I did get fit into all T150s. So I'm very excited for that. I can report the T150s are dynamite. I'm so back that they glide through the turf. They're fantastic.

Shot my low round of the year last week. I'm back under par for the first time in a long time. I'm back. I'm feeling great. Nothing in my life is going to change the fact that I'm playing good golf right now. Nothing pending in my life is going to stop that. The newborn is like that Jason Mamoah meme right now.

How much of this do you think is credited to the fact that KVV just very casually put a bullet in your head on the internal slack about Ben being the best golfer at NLU? It was so, it was so matter of fact too. It was like he was like he was like you know, you know, you didn't even consider like there was any other option. He's like, I was talking to my kids about, you know, how Ben's obviously the best golfer at L.U. and blah, blah, blah. You're like, whoa. Oh, I just gave it the guy that does the blinking meme of just, oh, okay, I didn't know we're doing that. Okay. But, uh, yeah, joke about your alchoraz situation there. Maybe, you know, the youth is just past you by. I'm down to play any and all of you guys in matches. It made me think we need to have like an NLU club championship of just straight up no strokes.

You can compete if you want, but like it. If we want to do it, we can do it. That'd be fun. I think it'd be some good content, but you know, have a cut. And then if you got to film the fun alley, if you don't make the cut, something like that. I like it. That's a great idea.

Sign me up. No, yeah. I don't even care make the cut. Something like that. I like it. That's a great idea. Sign me up. No, yeah. I did. I don't I didn't care. I didn't even care at all. That he said that. I've got to get that. I've got to get that. I mean, yeah, I've forgotten to get about that up.

So all right, we said we keep it tight. No matter what, it's an hour and a half these days. We can't do it. Can't keep any tighter than that. Anything else before we depart. Nothing else. Excited for the open man. Big, big week preview coming, what what Tuesday and then live shows after that.

That is correct. We'll be recording on Monday and have all our picks and all the takes about Royal Liverpool and all that Count up in your inbox as of Tuesday morning. So thank you everyone for tuning in. Hi, man. Thank you for being here on a lovely Sunday evening. Time to go eat some back and feeling some pain again in baseball. Yeah. Welcome, man. Welcome. All right. Good night. Thanks, bye, man. See you.

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