No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 721: Open Championship Recap

Episode Date: July 23, 2023

Brian Harman is the Champion Golfer of the Year with a six-shot victory at Royal Liverpool in the 151st Open Championship. It's an all-hands-on-deck recap pod tonight as we cover the week at Hoylake. We'll start with the champ and take stock of Harman's dominant performance for his first major championship and his potential spot on the Ryder Cup team. Then it's time to hear from TC who joined KVV from on-site after Tron flew to the UK before today's final round to support Tommy-Lad (36:00). Then it's on to a neutral's perspective on Tommy and the rest of the leaderboard (59:45) as well as some thoughts on this season's majors as a whole, the upcoming Ryder Cup, and a few coverage takes to close us out. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Lang Up live show presented as always by our friends at high noon. Sully here. We have made it through the open championship. And I am here for the show tonight.

Neil is here with us. Hello, Neil. How are you? Good afternoon, Mr. Sully. Good to see you. Hi, man. It's here. Thank you for. Neil is here with us. Hello, Neil. How are you? Good afternoon, Mr. Salie. Good to see you. Hi, man. It's here. Thank you for holding down the fort all week.

We greatly appreciate it. How are you, buddy? My absolute pleasure. Happy to be here. Happy you're still, you know, still on watch, Salie. It's good to have you. We joke a long time that this was going to be the most epic open championship because surely I was going to miss this one and it didn't end up happening.

And we got Brian Harmon winning by a touchdown. Big Randy is here to celebrate Brian Harmon, the biggest Brian Harmon fan that I know. Hello, Mr. Big. Hello, guys. Uh, well, I guess it is noon officially now, but I still have some coffee left this morning, but you know, I'll be hitting those high noons. Uh, ace app because you're a party boy, Randy. You got a piece of hot dog. Apple pie, loving American right there. Hell yeah. Listen, the moment everyone has been waiting for is here.

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And this was certainly one of those. It's real vodka, real juice, 100 calories, gluten free, no added sugar. You can find it on drizzly or wherever you buy high-new and visit high-newsperits.com to find it near you. Hi, man. I'm a thirties you first. Why don't you, uh, well, how would you eulogize the, uh, 151st playing of the Open Championship? I will start with this. Was it my first choice of, of winter? No, it wasn't, but you know what? I'm absolute every hat I have. I'm I'm taking it off for Brian Harmon. I actually really enjoyed today I enjoyed yesterday. I think we spend a lot of time talking about what a dream it would

be if we had you know players of different ability levels different skill sets able to compete at major championships and I think we're glossed in by the fact that Brian Harmon did just that he has every like advantage stacked against him in the world of modern pro golf. And he went out and won a major by a million shots. And it's incredibly impressive. I really enjoyed his post-round interview with Toreco. I thought it was great. He seems genuinely just totally over the moon.

I know he's trying to suppress a lot of that personality on the golf course. And I think he's really like like he talked a little bit about that Trying not to get too far ahead of himself trying to really stay locked in and I think you saw that bunker shot on 18 I mean, it's obvious to say like how much it means to him. He's been working for his whole life But it was really cool to see that come out and I mean God dude. You just got a got a hand at him unbelievable Unbelievable performance with the putter hit a ton of fairways. He just you know And I mean, God, dude, you just got to, got a hand at to him, unbelievable, unbelievable performance. With the potter, hit a ton of fairways, he just, you know, we were saying it yesterday,

it's like he got off to a really bad start yesterday and watching him steady himself kind of in real time was so impressive and then he did it again today. So I'm super, super impressed by Brian Harmon, I hope he makes the Ryder Cup team and I have nothing else. I'll see the rest of my time. That was really well said.

Really well said. I would echo, I wanna give Brian Harmon all the credit in the world. I feel like being from Atlanta playing in Georgia golf tournaments, Brian Harmon was a killer as a junior golfer. He was Tron's year. He beat up both at Lannond, Southeastern junior golf, American junior golf, you name it.

He was the dude as a kid. And he don't often hear of a lot of guys, especially that aren't, you know, freak athletes taking that into professional golf and winning a major championship. And being just like a consistent top 10, top 20 guy with like you said, every disadvantage against them. So massive shout out. It was not an exciting tournament to watch, but I do appreciate watching someone with a lead,

play experienced clinical golf, right? He had hit all the right spots. He was swinging. What did I think they said at conservative targets, aggressive swings was kind of like your mantra out there. And it felt like he executed that. And then just the guys are freak with the putter this week. And you know, credit to him. I think if I was going to make an analogy, it's like watching the option in football, the wishbone. You know what? It's not exciting, but when it's run properly, it's like that, that system is kind of fun to watch.

Six yards and six yards by man. Come on. Working. You gotta give it to them. So shout out to Brian Harmon. Good on him. Randy, you got to have something else. Oh, I mean, he hated it. Yeah. Like listen, everything you guys said is true, but it also was pretty much horrendously boring from Friday afternoon on. I blame the dudes for that though. I don't blame Brian Harmon. I bring the guys that didn't go track his ass down. Sure. That's not Brian Harmon's fault at all. You know, I think I said Friday, he's either going to win or he's not. And he won. And you're right. You rocked it, man. But should we apologize? I got to. Well, I just got to, you know, this is, we're going to be a pro at the moment. I'm not going to be a pro at the

moment. I'm not going to be a pro at the moment. I'm not going to be a pro at the moment. I'm not going to be a pro at the moment. I'm not going to be a pro at the

moment. I'm not going to be a pro at the moment. I'm not going to be a pro at the last major of a year, it's a big letdown, and now we have nine months off till Augusta. So I don't know. Solly, what do you got to add? I think you guys covered it a lot. It's hard when somebody gets a lead like that.

I have no reason to dislike Brian Harmon at all. I wouldn't say he's hugely a huge favor to mine. I literally have no take on it. So I don't feel the urge to root against him. I don't want to see him come back to the field necessarily. So it's weird when they get that big of a lead where like, yeah, I felt myself perk up a couple times today. I mean, there were a couple times where guys got within a year shot of it. Steps, Draka made a decent run, young Tom Kim, of course, made a decent run. And it just never materialized, and you do just gotta tip your cap and say,

like that was just an imperious performance. It really was, and by someone that doesn't have the most incredible physical skills yet. And just, Harmon too, like, he doesn't care what you think, or what, if you like him, or he doesn't care, like put on a show for the cameras or anything. He's not even barely acknowledges the crowd. And he doesn't care what you think of it.

Doesn't shake the volunteers hands on his way to the first tea. But he doesn't. Randy hates that. Yeah. He did think the supers though. Second in the, in the post game. But he just like doesn't, he doesn't give a shit about any of that. I respect that to a certain extent.

He's not trying to win any popularity contest. Just wants to show up and play golf. And he just who doesn't, he doesn't give a shit about any of that. I respect that to a certain extent. He's not trying to win any popularity contest. Just wants to show up and play golf and he just whooped everyone's ass. Like I, I don't put as much on the group. Like clearly the level of play, like the realistic level of play was around 7, 6, 500 par because that's where everyone settled. And he just put a kind of nearly once in a generation performance together, like non-tyker. Louis Ustazins is up there of course, but no one runs away and wins majors by six shots other than that dude that was where's red on Sunday?

So, uh, now Vin just had a good one. Harmon is actually who Neil thinks Ches is. That's a great take. Go accurate. And I will say this. I have put a lot of nuggies on Harmon and he has he has paid off. I think we're in the positive on that over the last few years. I wore my snow candle hat for for Harmon too he has paid off. I think we're in the positive on that over the last few years. I won my snow candle hat for Harmon too.

I love it. We talked about dogs and killers. I mean, here's a killer right here. Absolutely. I think the other lasting memory I'll have of watching golf, especially today was how frustrated all these horses were getting. Trying to, and it's just, you know, like little Brian Harmon just like ran away and hid and they're like, oh, get to him. And I think that's

what makes golf so good. Is it like, Ram was freaking out. Cam Young was being so bitchy. I saw myself and Cam Young all day. Couldn't believe these putts are, I can't make these putts, man. I can't, you know, that's where I think I'm starting from, right? It's like ready to your point. Like I'm not trying to put lipstick on this. There's pretend that it was, you know, Rory versus Cam at the old course, right? And I think it wasn't. It was, but I think squinting and trying to look

at all the positives, you know, that's what I took away is like watching people try to chase them down and not be able to was really pretty captivating. I think from a personal perspective, I talked about this a little bit last night, but when I first started covering golf was like 2008, 2009, I mean, he was like, he was the dude. And in that stretch of covering a lot of like junior and amateur golf, at least to me, there was kind of like two guys that that almost like broke into that crazy stratosphere. It was like Brian Harmon and Jordan

Spieth and watching like how those two careers have gone differently is where you almost kind of I don't know you see a guy like Harmon and it's like man I If you guys it's seen what I saw like at the beginning like this guy is supposed to be winning a lot more and it just hasn't happened and that's why it's just it's a very long you know decades long payoff here to To kind of see it all come for full circle that was that was kind of cool to watch. I was very happy for This was a perfect open before the advent of television. Like yeah, I this would have been a great one to read about in sports Illustrated. Yes next week. I think that's I think that's right did not need to spend however many hours watching it You didn't enjoy well. I still even with the results not end out for the most part. I still greatly enjoyed watching it. I thought about this today. I desperately wanted to fall asleep on the couch. It was the perfect nap tournament. And I was like, God, I'm going to be on the live show later.

Like I think I got to stay awake, you know, but there were some moments there. Like, whole six to 12 or I was like, I could just, I could just check out, man. I don't think anyone I don't think anyone's going to do anything. But exactly what happened, like, but you got to have the hope of it, man. Like, if there was a charge mounted every time, then it wouldn't be excited when there is a charge mounted, there were hints at charges mounted that just that feeling of like wanting to believe was there with Rory making three birdies in the first five holes. feeling of like wanting to believe was there with Rory making three birdies in the first five holes. That's Draca made a run. Young Tom Kim had a putt to get within three on the 17th green.

Like there was some stuff percolating. It just never, it just didn't come. I never, that none of those felt real to me. Just because Harmon didn't show any sign of doing anything but hitting the fairway and making 20 footers. I mean, the potter, he was changed the bunkers. God, it was, it was, we're going to get there. We got that we got a second hour of the show. It's going to be all about the bunkers. Yeah. And I think the amount of like long irons he was hitting from like two 10 plus also can't really be overstated, right? Like something happens on TV where every shot kind of like always looks like it's the same distance.

And he, he had so many like three, four, five irons that he just is hitting to the fat parts of greens, the perfect like away from bunkers. It's just, it's really boring golf, but it's so fucking impressive, man, to do that under the most pressure possible. And right now you're not taking that any of that away. No, no, that's where I want to be abundantly clear. This was a hell of a performance. It was impressive as all get out, but what you said there, it was rather boring most of the time, which listen, there's one guy, there's one guy that breathes so much life into this golf tournament for me. Trond, honestly, like Trond doing what he did. And I apparently

is going to be on the show any moment here. I was the first thing I thought about when I woke up this morning. It was just like, oh my god. I didn't sleep. I did, I did he get there? How did he get there? I had to go, I went and saw Oppenheimer alone last night, because I had to get my mind off of like, did my brother just fly to the UK? He knows.

He missed last night's show. And you know what I literally, what I, on the walk home last night, what I thought about was what, what, what, what would I want to hear more about the dream? What was T.C.'s dream? What, what, what what what did he see in a dream? He said he had a dream and I don't know if I don't think this was the dream. So I would like to dig into the the subconscious a little bit and and understand a little more of what he was seeing. I think it was a genius move for some of it. It has a lot of airline miles and we'll take like rather than fly direct on a non-united partner airline, we'll take three different flights to get somewhere

on a united partner. Like this was a dream for him to be able to avoid having to face the music on the Tommy takes to just totally obfuscate Ed to to to totally deflect it in this way as genius. Everyone's singing his praise is all of a sudden instead of riding him for his Tommy. I would say this bottom another what at least three months maybe to be into the year with the vision fund. Totally. I think for the LPs kick them out. Maybe, maybe come into the day to day on our slack was a, the soli say we're, you know, really putting the screws to soli about his years and years of sep struck a hate. Yes. And we said soli.

For the guards. I can't, you know, it's it's it's destructive. It's it's solid. This is this is gonna be impossible for you to come back from. He's just he's sticking it in you right now and he said, you know, I've got so much egg on my face. I'm gonna have to fly across the Atlantic Ocean just to distract everybody from out there. It's the good is which I thought was pretty. And then to tell you how boring the turn over is the truck harder than I hit him with at least the food's good over there. And we got into like a 20 minute discussion about how bad English food is. So be fully tuned and stroke it off. Things of that nature.

It just bear it. It needs to be said too, that Tommy played Friday, Saturday and Sunday and it combined. What are we doing? Not what are we doing? No, it's DC. I'm going to fucking change this. No, I's DC. I'm going to fucking change this. No, I'm going to, I, I, we're going the other way, baby.

Mr. 63. Can you imagine if he would have though? Can you imagine? I know. Truly, but then it was one of those things where he was only thinking about the upside. And then I'm sure he got there. And I mean, I can, I wish I could have been next to him on 17 when it was Mr. 63 turned into Mr. Six on a part three like Jesus and a Jackson like top top scene.

He missed that like five footer, which was just like on repeat all day long. People are guys, we're, we're, we're bearing like the lead of this, I think, which is we heard from Tommy after the Canadian open that he was literally like thinking about Tron on the back nine of trying to win a PGA course. Which I'm still trying to process that. Yeah, I would like to talk to Tommy and say, stop doing that. Stop doing that. My brother TC the night before one of his most important round of his career flies across

the country to go support him. As if Tommy didn't have enough on his mind. Like how distracting is that? If you really love Tommy that much, he's got to own this decision. He does have to own it. I would say maybe TC's trying to take all of that inner pain and tension on the grounds there. He's flashed the photo of the who's in pain.

Who's in more pain? Here it is. There is talk to me talking to Tron at that for the round. Oh, God. Show us the other one. The one the one that's going viral on social media right now, which is Tron in full smile while Tommy laments the the round that he had today. I'm putting this picture up. I'm going to frame it, mat it, put it, put it up on

my wall. I can't think of a photo that's going to make me happier in my office every day to look at is that just that right there of Tommy and T.C. Just the entire, all the joy that this has brought me. Two is possible overstate right before he hopped on the live show last night from Dallas. I can't believe I'm saying that out loud. I was talking about how like, you know, I'm not a good sports fan. Like I don't really care that much. And so it's like my brother is the exact opposite. Like, no, dude, a fuck that I I'm gonna go help Tommy make this happen.

You know, here I am. I'm following Max on Thursday. I'm trying to like, don't look at him, wear your sunglasses, don't get him out of his process. Like I'm not here, you know. Max, I know you're playing the open, but I just kind of find a place to charge my phone, man. Sorry.

Yeah, I just don't want any trouble, you know, and T.C. is like, fuck that. Like we're, we're going, we're marching on Liverpool. Like Cornwallis style, unbelievable. Reverse Cornwallis. We're, we're, we're, we're scoring wallets. God. I can't wait to hear from him.

We don't have to save some of that. Uh, we're getting reports. He's in player dining right now. Is that, is that accurate? Well, so there was a, uh, the next to the media center, there was the, uh, the, uh, the next to the media center, there was the like club like the open clubhouse where all the players and player families

and caddies would all go. And, uh, I'm sure he's in there behind the chipping green, just probably housing some more derves, probably hoisting a couple of points. Who knows what he's doing in there?

Can we, before I'm trying to get Jason Day to apologize to him about something figured his chest. We, I'm sure we're going to get cut off on the harming conversation. So I got at least effort this in there. Ryder Cup, Sully, how, how we look at no brainer. I have not seen updated points, but I would imagine if you win a major, like you're in based on the point system. And I have, I have some thoughts here, all right, if you'll, if you'll humor me here for a second. That's why I asked. I want to be clear on this. I have to put some tent poles around this part of the conversation. Actually, T.C. is not here. He's not going to, you know, twist

my words here or anything. But I'm not saying Harman shouldn't be on the Ryder Cup team. I'm not saying I wouldn't want him. I'm not saying I wouldn't want him in Rome. It's not what I'm saying. That's not what I'm saying. But you can go back seven years, I think. I started writing about this back when I actually wrote for the website, pointing out just enormous flaws in the point system in general, not just on the US side, but just how the point system works in these rider cups,

and how Jimmy Walker in 2016, when he allegedly won the PGA championship, went from 29th to fourth on that points list, right? and how Jimmy Walker in 2016, when he allegedly won the PJ championship, went from 29th to fourth on that points list, right? And here's my overall stance on this. It's, if you want Brian Harmon on your Ryder Cup team, I want the captain to be able to in charge of making that decision, right?

Like I want that endorsement of like, hey, you're my guy, I'm taking you across the pond, come on. And I think Harmon's gonna get in on points now. And I just think for a player that, Hey, you're my guy. I'm taking you across the pond. Come on. And I think Harmon's going to get in on points now. And I just think for a player that, listen, before this week, we weren't like screaming for him to be on the team. And two months from now, he could play great golf that week. He could play mediocre golf that week. He could play horrible golf that week. But it has completely flipped the scenario because of one week of golf two months out from the writer cup. And I just don't think that's how you form the 12 best players on your team, right? I mean, if he has a stinker month and a half leading up to this

and he's stuck on the team on points, then you have a player over there that you that you don't want to be taking across the pond in that time, right? I don't know if that's going to happen or not, but I just like with the flex, I like six captains picks. That's a lot, but he still makes it in that top six on points. It's just like not the way to fill out 12 best players on your team. Am I I think I've been on the record for years for 12 cap.

12 cap. Yes. I'm very much with you. I have no issue with that, but I would say it doesn't feel like there's a ton of guys trending on the US side. I think there's more guys trending on the Euro side. Brian Harman, it's not like he came out of nowhere. Like he had a tea. I think he's had some really good finishes the last three months. He's been doing things to use. He's always doing things. He's always doing things. And I think he's a fantastic course fit, right? Like he hits every fucking fairway. And you're talking about how they're going to make this a skinny Mickey Mouse golf course. Like I don't have any issue with that. That's not, it's not a skinny Mickey mouse golf course. It's like, it's not the golf national. It is, it is equally rewarding driving distance and driving accuracy so far from like the data that's out there, right? So it's

not the same as as what we saw in France in 2018. Like you're just going to be a good driver of the golf ball. And he is an above average driver of the golf ball when you combine his accuracy and his distance. And his great match play record. Again, I'm not even like advocating not to have him. Just like, dude, I don't feel differently about who to take over after this week of golf on a playing style. That's not the same as what we're going to see this fall. And it's two months away. Like it's great that he proved that this week and had an incredible performance. But that just still doesn't mean that that is going to be the guy that you want two months out from now. And it's complicated. Oh, hold on. I think you're your your general point is good. I think you're making it in the wrong way though.

Like I think Harman should be on the team. If he wins the the open and he's trending and he's playing well and the body of work, he's been around for a long time. Like he feels like one of the top Americans. Like it's hard to argue. He's been 20th over the last three months. He's not even in the top 30 of Americans in the last six months. And he's probably about 20th, 25th around that. So like the problem real Americans though. Where's he on the got that dog in the hot dogs and Americans? Yeah, I didn't think about that. I he should get extra points for that. But it's just like a small town. Try to try to tell him right in a small town.

Yeah, why don't you go fuck a try it? See what happens. It the way again, the way the points works, like it's a counting stat, it's not a blend of your your performance across, you know, multiple, you know, you know, months of performance. And it just, it could expose a little bit on the US side. Again, he might be like, who they want to take in two months. But like it just having that locked in, you know, this far out, this, it's still a long ways away.

Having that locked in now is not, not ideal in my opinion. Yeah, I'm, I'm with you on all of the changed point system. All of that. But right now, if you got to make the team, what, what are you doing? Yes or no? Are we playing next week? are we playing in two months? We're playing in two months. Yeah. Come on. I would, I would say I would know. I would like big. I would say no. I would not have taken them to start this week. And I would, I know this week. It doesn't take anything away from the performance. It doesn't like

it. It's incredible. It's not been it's not been the same like leap that when the Clark has taken like when the Clark went in the open got him on the team for sure, but also dominant the Wells Fargo and has been really freaking good outside of those two events, right? Like that's kind of what I'm talking about. Harmon's been just a guy for quite some time. I think that's, you know, I just happens like every every single week we're going to do this where somebody if somebody goes and wins next week. It's like the only thing I think. Yeah, I guess my

team, my point would be it's a little different. What else are we supposed to do? I think there's two thing. There's, there's, is there someone that says next week we're not going to do that. It's not the it's not the open championship. Somebody he just went out and won a major by what five shots, six shots. Like that's fina wins. He's going to be on the top of the team championship. Somebody he just went out and won a major by what five shots, six shots. Like that's female wins. He's going to be on the team now. No, someone runs through the FedEx cup, like Billy Ho did a long time ago. You're like, yo, that guy just won like two of his last four events.

And he balled out like he's trending. He should go. But I don't think if someone just wins next week, it's not the same as what Harmon just did. That's the argument I'm making here. Like I wouldn't I wouldn't I would not feel that way. I wouldn't be like, oh, he's on the team now because he won, you know, regular PGA tournament. I agree with you. I mean, I'm in on Harmon. So all I see where you're coming from. I respect your opinion, but I, uh, I think your opinion on the point system is great. I'm like, well, Captain's picks, but I guess you're trying

to avoid favoritism. Like what, you know, is there, they want to reward guys for like, you know, black and white performance, I guess, which is ironic because like just I tweeted something about this. But his everybody talks about his walker cup and he played two walker cups and all the stuff. The thing people forget is that they were non like consecutive walker cups. Like he loves the team events so much that he literally stayed amateur in order to play that second one. So he played no five Missed the team in 07 which I think I would have to check all of this

But I think that was like the peak of the usga politicized picks like picking the right guys who have the right look and the right fit and We need you know, we need a leader in the locker room type guys and so he didn't get picked in 07 state amateur instead of turning pro so he could play on the O9 team and balled out again. And I don't know. I think and then now has kind of been like trying to go his whole career like to make a USA team president's cup or Ryder Cup. And so I don't know. I think there's just a lot of it's very unscientific. But I think there's a lot of context towards like I just think he's going to be a really

good Ryder Cup. I think also he's probably shot like he seems like a guy that could play with. He's, he's got to play with. He's going to hit fairways and he's going to get you out of trouble with his putter. Like he seems like a malleable member of the team. I will am valuable. Thank you, Randy. I need, I need you to pick up, but I was putting down. If you made that, that take like last Sunday, I'd be like, yeah, I could see that. I would not change. I would not have your opinion change on Harmon on the team based on his past week.

What if he misses the cut two weeks from now or the first, at the first playoff event? Does that? Why does the peak week outweigh a bad week, right? You don't know what you mean. Because it's the open. That doesn't. And ran away with six shots. And he also would be a valuable member of the team because he's pretty like versatile and easy to play with. Like he doesn't

have to play all five matches. And then the correlation of major wins to record in the rider cup. I don't know if there is one. Well, I then come up with a better format for me because you don't like the point system, but you're not going to pick the guy that like, yeah, the eye test. He passes the fucking eye test for me. That's fun. That's totally fine. I just saying, like, not a lot of people were saying that before this past week. And if your opinions totally flipped on this past week, that's fine. I'm mine would not have. If somebody had brought up Harmon last week, I probably would have thought about it straight up because I've always felt like he's always doing things.

Like, yeah, it's kind of like people's argument for Kisner. Like, oh, man, Kis always plays well in the dog. He's a dog, right? Like, that's crazy. He's a killer. Hard drive. He's a killer. People's argument for Kisner like all man kids always plays well in the dog I'm with you Like big tone first Harman right That's what I was gonna ask who who's watching the TV today like most upset that Harman won Like I would throw out like JT now or Keegan probably. Yeah. Right.

I don't know. Keegan's already on the team because he won an event. If you want to get a suitcase pack, he's got a suitcase pack. Where do you stand there and saw him on JT and Harman? Will you apologize to JT?

Like that's, so like that's how that kind of like egregious to me if you're like, no, I'm taking JT over Harman. I like a fuck man. Like I get it. He's got he's done it. Oh, wow. But he's kind of the wilderness. We're doing what I get accused of doing, which is only looking at past, past results.

It is assuming that means the same for the right or cup future, right? Like if JT continues to not be able to break 80 over the next month, I probably am not going to go take him across the pond, right? Like I, I get, I just see some sign of golf from him, some sign of coming out of whatever this is over the next month. But we have that time, like form ebbs and flows and being in great form two months out does not guarantee anything for the writer cup, not one single thing. So I don't know. I just would say I mean, Harmon feels like a, yeah, we got it. I got it. I got to before we get to this because I have feeling this next part might take a little while.

We are brought to you by title us the choice of the champion golfer, the year Brian Harmon from his ProVi won golf ball to his fairway finding TSI driver to his CB Irons and the Voki design wedges he used to scramble his way around Royal Liverpool. Listen to this quote from Brian prior to last year's Open at St Andrews. The reason I switched back to title us was because of windy days and with open championships and major championships in mind to flight the ball and not have to worry about getting up and getting out of getting out of hand was a big deal. Prior to the start of 2017, Harmon had been playing a competitive golf ball in Palm Springs having played a similar set as a junior and in college. And three months later, Johnson Wagner asked Harmon if he wanted to team up the

Zurich Classic. The first year the Zurich went to the team format. Harmon had played a title scuffle on college and had no problem playing Wagner's Pro V1 during all turn it shot. He said, we had a nice tournament, especially the last day. I got really windy. I was hit some shots with Johnson's ball shots. I couldn't hit with the ball. I'm playing. How about that indoor? So Harmon switched to the ProV1 following the following week at the Wells Fargo. He birded the final two holes on Sunday and won by a shot. The effects were immediate. The way I flight iron shots the way I control it around the green. It saves me. I don't know how many shots it saved me. Harmon signed with tiles in 2018. The rest is history. Yeah. Johnson Wagner at Brian Harmon, just a couple of

couple of dogs. Pretty good vibes in that group. I'd like to tell you that group. I think that'd be a lot of fun. We've got a very wet man trying to get into our chat, but it looks like his service is is really struggling. So I will, I'm going to milk the clock here by saying, what, what's our outlook for for harming going forward.

One in overunders. I think so. What the hell? What the hell is the podcast for? Does anybody want to set an over under over six and a half? I'm gonna go under. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna disgrace the bit with this. I don't think harming's gonna win another major, but I do think he's gonna win. What about just regular events? disgrace the bit with this. I don't think Harman's gonna win another major, but I do think he's gonna win. What about just regular events over under? He's got what for now?

Three. I think three. Three. So this is a third. You guys think he gets to five. That's what I'll set the number at. There's something really interesting because I think that you can make an argument

that like this, I don't think it's a controversial argument. Like this golf course and this open championship like sets up so much better for him than week to week golf on the PJ tour. Yeah. Right? Where he's running it out on fairways. It's much more position play.

It's much more kind of outlasting, making a lot of pars than it is, you know, who can bomb at 340 and flip wedges closer and make more puts in everybody else, right? So I, in a way, it's like, I definitely am not saying it's easier for him to go out and win a puts in everybody else, right? So I in a way, it's like, I definitely am not saying it's easier for him to go out and win a major than it is, you know, a regular PJ Torvitt. But I do think it's like a closer gap than it is for a lot of other players.

Does that make sense? You should play more links golf. That's what you're saying. What if the Abyssaic? What if he became a, well, deep, well, we've already talked about this. The D.P. World goal, but doesn't play links golf. What if he just becomes like a, you know, just trying to win a bunch of club championships over there? Is he the links master? Potentially.

It's really like a link to the links of apprentice, maybe. You're fired. Sure. Four and a half is an interesting overrunner for total wins for for Brian Harmon. That's what you said. I think so too. Like, yeah, does he get the five? I think I'm going to say he does. I think he wins two more events because I think his game is

It's not like it. He's not gonna lose his magic power of hitting it far as he gets older like I think he's gonna He's got some probably five good years ahead of him. He's what 35 36 Six so I could see I could see him winning, you know Getting two more wins. Yeah, I think he I'm gonna say yes to that. I think that's a good line. No, 40 events. It's good line. That's you said that's a, that's a good line. Please, but 40 PGA tour events in one three times. I will say like we guys were talking about watching the golf this week. I will say it was a delight to watch not a driving contest. In general, just as just a delight to watch that part of this golf course and that for that reason, I will say under and that like PGA tour golf goes back to being a driving contest in general, just as just to delight to watch that part of this golf course. And that for that reason, I will say under and that like PJ Tore golf goes back to being a driving

contest so much of the time. And he's just playing at such a disadvantage when it comes to that. And like the tour continues to cycle longer and longer players coming up every single year. And it's just going to be even more difficult for him to win and watch a lot of Torvins going forward. It's totally different style play. What any Torvins that particularly set up well for him to win and watch the auditorium is going forward. It's totally different style play. What any tour events that particularly set up well for him? Is there anything that jumps off the page? I'm trying to like they truly are feel like they're going extinct. I know. He would say Hilton head. You would say Valspar. Yeah, but colonial maybe colonial. I mean, he has played well. He didn't win colonial. Is that right? Or one Wells Fargo and he won one. I One wind him maybe. I think you won wind him in John Deere. Does that sound right? Well, Wells Fargo,

Wells Fargo, Wilmington. Yeah. You right. Well, it seems like we've got TC is, you know, he's running into Wi-Fi issues over in player dining. So we've got, we're bringing in a bringing another guest, I think Ben bringing in KVB KVB, not as wet as we were hoping. Oh, I mean, I've had like a little bit to time to dry off. And I had like a dry place to go. I don't know about TC. He was out, you know, rummaging in the garbage cans for an extra win, win breaker or something. But yeah, it was, it was freaking wet out there today. But we sold your dawn. You know, we good. How does it feel knowing that TC was like setting on his couch yesterday morning and made

it too Liverpool faster than your golf clubs did, having a week, having a week to make it there? I would be honest, I had spread pressing. My golf clubs are currently stranded in the new castle airport. They were like, please let us know if you can take delivery of these clubs in two to four days. I will be leaving in the morning. So some old British couple that we rented the Airbnb from is going to get a brand new set of tireless.

I hope they play well with them, because I don't know that I'll ever see them again. Yeah. How was your day? Where were you most of the day? And what did you say? I followed Mr. Harmon most of the day, an enjoyable stroll just to sort of a little bit of tension early on.

I think when it looked like he, I want to say it was on four, I hit it right there and had a pretty tough up and down. Made that part. I thought that was kind of the moment when he just like really sort of stealed himself and then, you know, follows that up with two straight birdies. At the first he hit, he's the next hole he hit it into the goers. But then, you know, birdies six and seven. I was like, God, you mean, follows that up with two straight birdies. At the first he, he was the next hole he hit it into the goers, but then you know, birdies six and seven.

I was like, God, man, like this is, this is just clutch stuff. He had a great quote. Just came out of his press conference. He said that, you know, some guy on Saturday night said to him as he was walking after one of his bogus. He said, Brian, you don't have the stones for this. And you brought that piss him off so bad. He was like, I don't want to give that guy like too much credit, but like that snapped me right back into it. And I was, I was good from there. So it was

like if you want to play well, you should have been, listen, this is a good quote. You said, if you don't want me to play well, all you really need to do is be nice to me because then I don't focus. But if you're, if you are our nasty to him, he dials it. So that's Try that I really really hope Harman and TC don't get to spend any time together You can become just a dynamic to a Zurich pairing for sure dynamic to you. Zeric pairing for sure.

What the guys got it's the elder. Yeah, I believe so. That was sort of the way that, you know, I mean, that might be my interpretation of things, but I gotta say we had yet another press conference where people were very, very confused by Ryan Harman's side of red neck nature. He talks about buying a tractor and you could have like, it was people were just baffled. Like they could not believe that an open champion was gonna ride around

on his tractor next week. Which is a little, I'm, you know, supposed to be the best fans in golf here. I think that was Louise, I think that was Louise like crowning thing, right? Wasn't that his whole thing? Is like, I can't just,

retired in my farm. I'm not the match for the British fans yesterday saying they were. I guess this is more than media. Well, I do think that if I was going to adjust my take from yesterday, it feels like the British fans are very locked in, but they're locked in for their guys. They can get, they can get nasty. If it's not going their way for, for Tommy Ladd, it's like, well, then I'm going to fucking take it out on you, man. Kev, what's going to be, what's going to be the lasting memory from this week?

I think, you know, honestly, it's just Harman like waggling and waggling and waggling and waggling and then striping shots. Like, it's, you know, you think that that was a sign of like nervousness or a sign that he was, the moment was too big. And really, it was just like him, you know, whatever eccentric sees he has. he was just going to find it. The moment until he felt a feel was right and then he was going to, you know, stripe it. So, God, I actually got TC here in the, in the media center. This is what I had you sneak him in that security there was, was locked tight. Oh my, I don't know, but look at this. We're. I'm going to go ahead and give him one of my earbuds so that he can hear the audio. And we'll see if this works.

We're going to do a little like in the field correspondent, as Jimmy Weaver was called lollipopin with the mic. So please, KVV, you asked the questions. Okay. T.C., you've come back from, I think, some time with Mr. No, that's my thing. and you should put that in your ear. Okay. Kevin, that was mine that was not working. Over there and I ran over in the rain. It is like a monsoon out there. Not a huge monsoon.

So I did see a picture of you and Tommy together. If you could maybe tell us how that came about. Yeah. Tommy, I apologize for fuselusing over and over and over again. Big, really big of him. And I said Tommy, I apologize to you. I should have been here earlier.

And yeah, I don't know. It was just the guy tried really hard. And he had a bunch of pressure on him this week. And I was pissed that he didn't get the ball to the hole. He ran, he shut up. I think I tried really hard. And he had a bunch of pressure on him this week. And I was pissed that he didn't get the ball to the hole. Randy shut off. Can you imagine PC saying this about anybody else? I know.

I'm going to imagine. He tried really hard. I really wanted to. But it's not your fault, Tommy. He's not. Let him go. So he was using. We can use this audio for anything.

Let him finish it. I want to hear the whole finish take. We can use it forever. T.C. you are under oath, by the way, right now. That's true. All right, I feel like things, if we got this weather yesterday, we're not having this conversation. All right, things just didn't break our way straight up. They didn't break our way.

I know we made a triple on 17. I didn't see it. I broke off after 14. You bailed. You didn't see them into the clubhouse. I bail he made a triple on 17. I didn't see it. I broke off after 14. You failed. You didn't see him into the clubhouse. I was trying to get back here and then. Yeah, the job to do. I told him he had to be ready. Especially when you, like, it turns out the RNA isn't very friendly. It's a journalist who show up, you know, morning of the final round. No, I know that. It's tough. It's tough. So I'm proud of TC referring to myself as a journalist now.

We've come a long way, baby. A lot of people about me, a lot of beers today, guys. Took a lot of selfies with people. Very unjournalistic on my part. I apologize for that. I'm so wet. Like it was, I mean, like anybody in the States, this would have been a, like a third full.

Everybody stuck around till the end. Like I've never been to the open before. I had an awesome day. It was so much fun. People were, you wanna talk about the best fans in golf? These are the best fans in golf, Randy. You would love it. You would eat it up.

You heard it here. I mean, what a, what a field report we have there. TC, as TC, if, if you, if he can, um, give us a little bit of detail about that dreamy had last night. Oh, yeah. They want to know what the dream guys. The dream was on Friday night. Okay.

Excuse me. Yes. I slept on the plane last night, Randy. Right. Right. It dream was on Friday night. Okay. Excuse me. Yes. I slept on the plane last night, Randy. Right. Right. Just to, you know, like, I want to see you believe in something like I believed in Tommy. Which by the way, I feel closer than ever. I feel like we are, we are so close.

He's raised his floor. He might win the FedEx cup, which. Which would be cool for you. I can't imagine how cool though. I know you've always celebrated that. And I, yeah, this FedEx Cup should be the fifth major, as you've always said. I don't know. I talk to you. You can't, you can't win the FedEx Cup anymore without winning a tournament. I could see this like pre 2019, but unfortunately, you do have to win a tournament to do that.

Which is, you know what, it's all that makes it even cooler. Let's get back to the dream. What what was in the dream? What what convinced you that you needed to hop on this plane? Did he was going to win the FedEx Cup? No, no, absolutely not. Uh, no, it was it was going to be like one of the greatest sporting moments of all time.

He was like he was up on everybody's shoulders. I don't know. It was just it was very vivid. Okay. I'm very vivid. I was just, it was very vivid, okay? It was very vivid. I feel like this dream is like letter boxed in like four three aspects, like one of the 1977, you know, old BBC broadcasts.

It's all like, it's all kind of washed out and I would imagine that's probably how it looked, TC. I don't know, man. I just sat with Finno for like an hour. Finno and his wife when we recapped like the last three rounds and like, I don't, man like I just sat with Finno for like an hour Finno and it's why when we recapped like the last three rounds and like I don't like he got fooled by the wind on one hole He just it was like The pups just didn't go in man and like I know they haven't gone in and a lot of the majors

But a lot of tournaments in general. I'm gonna I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep betting on Tommy and the people that are fans of the Vision Fund or shareholders, like you guys, I took money out of my own pocket to come here. If that doesn't tell you exactly where my heart is and where my head is, I don't know what to tell you. I can't do any better than that. Like, and I just talked to Rom too.

I told him I was the TIO guy. And he was like, oh, yeah, you know, I agree with you. I agree with you TC. Yeah, you keep coming in here. You keep talking about the TIO. Like I who does the impression, so I kill him if I ever see you. Exactly. Yeah, he said, he said the butcher stuff. Not cool, Neil. It's a bad take. Respect. I mean, that's a bad take. I just could disagree with John on that. I like, I had Rom this week. I had Tommy this week.

I had Victor this week. I feel like we were all over, all over the board. We're peppering the board. It's just, we just didn't get it done. Harman, to his credit, awesome job. I mean, like, I don't know. I feel like his, I'm not sure what you guys have talked about

on this podcast thus far. Brian Harmon, like, I think the Southern stuff gets kind of misplaced a little bit. Like people think that he's, he's like this arrogant C. Island Southern guy and he's probably the opposite of that. He's like, like the caddies like him. Like, I mean, Finno was just singing his praises.

He's like, hey, like this guy's the real deal. He's always treated me well. He's always treated all the caddies well. He's been out here for 16 or 17 years. He's never once lost his card. Like that's a remarkable thing. And when you go from dominating to the level that he did in amateur and junior golf, it's a not to basically being at the bottom of the rung as far as distance goes and all that.

Like you want to talk about a dog. He's got that dog in him. Like he may not be a sexy champion. He may not be somebody that like, like, all right, holy like you guys were due. You guys had Tiger and Rory, where your last two champions, like cool, like Brian Harmon. Yeah, like that's fine, but it's not, it's not in the same vein of like a Ben Curtis or a Todd Hamilton. It's, it's a, it's a proper champion, I think, of like, the guy, the guy fucking like stole people's souls for four days. I mean, shit, today, like stole people's souls for four days.

I mean, shit, today like we were out there and he went from 12 to 10 under and then all of a sudden makes two birdies and it nasty up and down and it's like right back to where we started and just ripped every his heart out. So props to him, man. It was PC. Do you think Harvind should be on the Ryder Cup team?

I don't, it's not, it's not a think I should be, like I think he, I think this is the Ryder Cup team, right? And I think steps on the European Ryder Cup team too. So, would you, would you care to rebuttal? We've addressed this. He's gonna be on the team on points. We've discussed this. I asked your opinion though, not on what's gonna happen.

Do you think he should be on the team? I feel like we just covered this for like 20 minutes. Why are you both- Why was I was so- He was my middle model. I was gonna get middle models. I was gonna catch him on the- You might take as a European fan.

I feel like Harmon is actually like, you guys getting better in spite of yourselves. Whereas like Harmon's, Harmon's a guy, like he's a fucking dog, he's a match play killer. He's like what every thought Kevin Kizner was. And we're there with that. And like I think his game plays pretty much anywhere

unless it's like a bunch of 320 yard forced carries, which, Sally, that very well, I was walking around with a couple of Italians today. And they're like, yeah, like Marcos Simone, not a good golf course. And I said, we have a video coming out this week. Confirmate. Yeah. But I don't know.

I think like it's just he seems like a high floor guy to where Horman's going to be a good locker room guy. He's going to be a good team guy. You can mash him up with a lot of different. Paramaskotti guy. You can't put it. Param was Scotty. Param was like somebody who's a little bit wayward off the tee and, you know, get him on the par three or whatever. I don't know. I like it. You heard it here. TC, I want to, I want to first congratulate you

on your bravery and and Tommy to a lesser extent as well. But true man in the arena shit from you guys this week, you know, there's gonna be a lot of haters and losers saying why did he do this? You know, why is he over there? And I just I want to ride for you, my man. It's it's one of my favorite already one of my favorite memories of the open championship. I think it's up there with Jack Tiger. Roryker with John Daler. All of those things. I'm putting this right up there on that list. So I want to first congratulate you on doing this. And second, have you found a flight home? What's your game plan? I have.

I'm flying out of Heathrow tomorrow at 250, I believe. Direct to Denver. I got a lay flat. I believe I'm an 11G or 11 H and I will be in Denver and then DJ you will be picking me up in Denver. I'll see you there, brother. What's the mileage expense of a flight home? 130,000 miles I think for a lay flat for like 12 hour flight.

I've got three quarters of a million miles sitting in my United accounts. No big deal, Sally. That's not even considering my Delta account, which has even more bottom line though. I don't know. I just bullman. I am so amped up after spending the day with with the Brits and the English. It is This was proper golf. This was proper golf weather. This was like I so so people had umbrellas up and Brawley's kind of stopped. Yeah, Brawley's and and then the rain kind of stopped and the heckling like respectful but a sort of heckling It was like yeah down with that Bra yeah, down with that broly,

down with that broly lad. And yeah, down with that broly. And like, and then, and then the guy goes up and like, like takes the umbrella out of the guy's hand and then like takes the umbrella down. And he's like, yeah, nobody can fucking see it, right? Man, like, could be in a selfish prick. And I was like, God, this is, this is my kind of place.

Was it directed at you? As he said, fair. No, I didn't have an umbrella. I can confirm T.C. did not have an umbrella the entire day. If anybody wants T.C.'s joy right now, it's like, you know, we talked about no beef in 23. This is impossible T.C. right here.

Just, you know, apologizing for Tommy. There's just, you know, it's, it's all good. It's good vibes only. Neil, one thing, uh, just, you know, apologizing for Tommy. There's just, you know, it's all good. It's good vibes only. Neil, one thing, everybody, I saw some things on Twitter earlier. I couldn't keep my phone dry. First of all, I walked in and it was like, I put it with soaked. I couldn't even, I couldn't even answer a phone call. It just kept going everywhere with like the screen. But some of the Canadians were getting after me of like, hey, like look how the British are treating harmin. I was like, I think the British treated harmin fine. Like there was no outward disrespect, whereas some of the stuff that I've heard that the Canadian said

to Tommy, unbelievable, can't stand by that. Ask the journalist next to you when he reported about happened on the first tea. What happened on the first team. What happened on the first? Well, there he got booed on the first team, Brian did. And then as he hit the ball, some like I would say three or four people said, get in the bunker. Get in the bunker. Listen, don't support it. Just like just like solid with with, you know, a don't support it. Can't. No, it's not alcoholics anonymous. Just not before the 12 step program.

That's to have a quick thought for TC here. I was wondering if you how you felt about the young Tom Kim's heroic performance. He was yet crushes on after he was, he was limping around. Can I not be the bad guy on this? Like I was, no, you are the bad guy. No, I'm kind of with. I'll take, I'll run with him a little bit here. There's a little bit of I'll ride with that. There's some there's some thought. Sorry, sorry, Mr. Kim, but that maybe it was limping a little harder when

the Netflix cameras were around that the limp got progressive KBB. They gave him crutches. They gave him crutches after the round. For those that were not watching the golf, he was also like swinging like not even, like trying to win an open championship, not even transferring his weight to his left foot. So in spots, in spots, both of those need, only when the cameras were showing him. Yeah. He was making sure to show that he was not just saw him in the locker room and he like, I didn't see any of the crutches and run it long over his shoulder, perhaps. It is truly like, are you hurt or are you injured dog? And you're like, I don't even think you're hurt.

So I just want to just clarifying a previous question of T.C.s that he wanted answered, which I just wanted to know if you can answer after a T2 finish at the Open Championship. When are we going to have the discussion about whether Tom Kim is a fraud? I think we've already had it. What is your answer on it?

Do you think he's a fraud? No, I just, I don't know. I just want to see, I want to see less thirst. Hmm. Just see a little more, I guess. See, you can see me praising. You can see me praising some. You did me dirty with the Edwin,

the Edwin Rodriguez tweet today. Edwin Diaz, I believe or Edwin Diaz. I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and then you duck into the last five. Tc didn't want to get drowned in the estuary after Tommy hit it back there. So it's just a safety maneuver. It's tough. Tough scene. Tc, any other parting thoughts?

Did you bring a UK charger or converter? No, I didn't. I charged up my external portable charger battery. I don't do the the UK chargers. I'll do that. You just. We only hear for 24 hours. So I guess that's fine. I talked to the pro proud of him battle today. I'm not sure if you guys have talked the pro at all.

We haven't, but I'm very proud of him as well. He was fun to watch him on Thursday and it's fun to see him close it out on a good note. I think I gave him some shit. watch them on Thursday and it's fun to see them close it out on a good note. I think I gave him some shit. I said, you know, it's a T 10. It's like, you know, can't lay and zander plan together today. First one though. I think you get a pass for your first one. First one we celebrate. Also, next one, like it wasn't, it was very steady and it was, it was overseas in shitty weather. T.C. I mean, real much and you can, you know, judge of free zone, was there any moment today,

any shot when you were like, man, what the fuck did I do? Like, why did I, why did I make the trip? Like, no, Neil, most of that, the dream is not coming true. Yeah, most of that was, was probably overnight on the flight from Dallas to, you know, Dallas to Frankfurt. And then I connected in Frankfurt and I'm like, you know what, like, I didn't, see, you know, Dallas to Frankfurt.

And then I connected in Frankfurt and I'm like, you know what, like, I didn't see it. I didn't even see this. I didn't even know this. See, that's what I was wondering if you were standing there and like, you know, like, oh my God, what have I done? No, it was very much like, I don't know. All the doubt was probably yesterday

when I like at Dallas after I talked to you guys or whatever. And the more and more I got to it I was like this was a blast I walked around and like hung out with a bunch of cool people today and so many so many people were like TC like it means it it means a shit ton to us that you're here like with tears in their eyes. Yeah. Thank you TC TC champion journalist of the year you're a fucking the year. You're a fucking legend, mate. You're a fucking legend.

You're the fact that you're here. Mental, when is this called T.C.? Mental. So that's where we're at. Guys, I look forward to bringing you guys back here. And people are going to, we might get a ticker tape parade here. Guys. Do it live and true.

Do it live. Unreal. T.C. hats off I still alive and true. I still alive. Unreal. TC hats off, man. Like my media cap comes off to you. Just at all time, congratulations on the greatest, the greatest deflection of all time. I mean, truly, I'm so impressed. And I can't believe you pulled this off. I guess the podcast listeners didn't see them just holding up

Tommy's golf ball there. Did he sign it for you? No, no, he didn't need to sign it now. So I don't see you like traveling to to Minneapolis St. Paul for like big tone, you know, or do JT. JT. NG is right now. So maybe is the time to ride. So maybe you take him to Cyprus. I'll think if I take Brian Harmon to Cyprus, then I think it'll be worthy of being on the team. KVV FTC. Like he was eyes at Cyprus. Postmortem.

Does he want us to classify this, Tommy Result as a front door or back door top 10? Or both. Or he was in it out. Did he get a top 10? He did. He birdied the triple 17 and birdie 18 to get back at the top. He said, I can't believe you didn't fall all the way in.

That's tough. That's too many people. No, a lot of ways to follow like the last three or four weeks without a Robespas is very hard to follow. That's fair. That's fair. I battled so hard today, guys. Like I was up on top of mounds.

I was battling umbrellas. He was preaching to the people out there. Loves and fish is shit. I had to take so many selfies today. I was battling umbrellas. He was preaching to the people out there. Loves and fishes. I had to take so many selfies today. He was finding high-grub. The Brits love their selfies. I will say this. And it's going to come off as a cool man take.

But people saying, hi, on Thursday to me, it's like it didn't happen unless there was a picture. I swear to God, it was like the selfie culture in the UK is crazy. It was like the phone was out already. I was like, you want to get a picture, don't you? Yes, let's get a picture. I swear to God, it was like the selfie culture in the UK is crazy. It's like, okay, it was like the phone was out already. Like, I was like, you want to get a picture don't you? Yes, let's get a picture. It's crazy. It was like, every single person that says, hi, has to take a picture with you. It was, it was kind of bizarre because I feel like in the US, it's more like, sometimes somebody will be like, I mean, I know it's lame, but can I get a picture? It was like, no, no, do we have to get a picture? Or this didn't happen.

Where else is picture? Which is almost better. No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying, Deach. It's kind of almost, it's more like, hey, this is what it is. They're very upfront about it. Couple of people to shout out to, like, I put that up on Instagram yesterday

and a Nest member picked me up at the airport today and drove me from Manchester to there was a guy waiting waiting after I cleared customs there was a guy waiting to take a picture with me no like this was not the guy that like message me he was he was like an American kid. He's like, TC, I knew you were coming through. I was tracking your flight. And then and then from there to I don't know. It was just I knew you on that the fods of bird. Yeah. Oh my God. Wow. It was wild. So I don't know. It's been it's been a wild 24 hours. I'm glad I did it. This was this has been like really really fun and It's really fun to go to a golf tournament by yourself with no plan other than to like I'm gonna follow this guy And just I will echo that what happens. It was awesome

We coast on that man Hell yeah TC go on We're gonna go have some pints situations. We're going to go have some pints. I mean, Tommy's still going to run for the first. Yeah, I told me like he did not show up at his home course like Randy, I listen, I know you guys are going to say that. And honestly, I proud that you're saying that. I respect you for saying that. We're going to have the last word. Tommy is going to win a major. I am more hopeful now than I ever have been. Okay.

He where there is we. T.C. is on the squad. Yeah, fair. Fair. Or any other questions guys there. I think we'll send you guys on your way if you let's just do the other side of the guy to get off your chest. But no, I pick a deal. Are you going to hang out with Tommy now or is he is he out? I don't know. If he knows, like, yeah, I'm going home, like, like he was

staying at home in the last few nights, it's raining so. Hey, thanks for coming. Like it could be coming down. TCC is going to be at the red lobster kids. It's a treasure. I truly felt like the red lobster guy. I didn't have a credential or whatever. And I couldn't, like I couldn't get to him for like four holes.

And I was like, like he needs to know I'm here. He needs to, he needs to know that I've paid this all. Did he see you in any way, any moment, like during the rounds? Did he, you know, I tried and like, I couldn't, I couldn't. It's not right, but right before he hit that T-shirt, 17. Got it. Got a blast. Good, good, good, good, good. I'm not going to be a big fan of the big fan of the big fan of the big fan of the

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and they said, Oh, but you can't drink these in the the media center. You have to drink them in the lounge. So T.C. is breaking like 17 RNA rules here. I'm very proud of him. It's F the 30 RNA is like the US Marshalls man. They got it locked down. All right. Well, we're going to go ahead and send you guys out. Thank you both. F the 30 RNA is like the US Marshalls man, they got it locked down. All right, well, we're going to go ahead and send you guys out. Thank you both. They've traveled home and we look forward to catching up with you in your back. Shout out to both you guys rock and the rowback active where you all know

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I mean, I didn't like, like I said last night, I find Tommy very easy to root for. It's just like that wasn't hit today or yesterday. And like that's that's not good. Like that wasn't even close. It's not good. Like, no, you know, he's nice. Like I guess some the putts didn't look awful, but they just didn't.

No, I thought the putts were closer than the shorties were bad. Yeah. The one on 14 was really, really, really bad. And obviously the triple is, is not great. A lot of them were very close. That's what I will say. So I wanted to hit it, hit it pretty good. He was like, these seven shots back going.

I would like to put a question to you guys. Who do you think right now is the best current active player that has not won a major? And I'm not even to say not one tournament, but I would I would even say is Tommy. Is Tommy that guy? Or is it is it Zander? Like who do you put the top of that list? Man, that's a good question. We haven't really talked about that a long time. So a lot of contenders are, yeah. I think it's Zander. Because Tom, it's like again,

we have to remind ourselves, Tommy is not one PGA tour event. Why is Zander ever can't lay? Zander's got more, doesn't he have more wins? Or does he have more? I think he has more close calls and majors. He's got Loki kind of a lot of wind. Dej, I feel like Zander has has threatened more. Yeah, especially the masters to where you're like, oh, God, this guy, I feel like it's been like hits, it's, it's coming soon. It's coming

soon for three years. And then this year was kind of, I think a massive disappointment. He had some, Zander finishes in the majors this year, T10, T8, T10, T17. So like disappointing for his level of talent, but like not embarrassing, not horrible, but just memories. And I would say you could argue then that Cantlay has more like goes out and balls out in regular events

and but then like no shows in majors. So I would almost say that. So Cantler has eight wins, eight PGA Torweins, Zander has seven PGA Torweins and a gold medal, if that counts for anything. And Zander has six top fives in majors, and Cantler has one. So I'm gonna call Zander, I'm gonna,

yeah, executive order Zander over Canlay for best players to not want a major. Do you think anyone else is in this conversation? Ricky someone someone put up there on the board. I know that's going to make Randy happy, but Ricky's got a court pretty legit resume and and what for in one year for top five Types second wasn't he all in all four majors? No, no, no, no, no. Top five and all five.

I think a couple runners up. Jimmy Walker, I think, is in the conversation. Is it the best player like the best player right now or the most accomplished? I think I think active. So I was trying to get rid of Monti, right? Or somebody like from long ago that we're not But I guess it's how much are we looking at current form in this in this question, right? Because I like or am I think like Tommy's kind of up there, man

It's like Lee Westwood, right? Don't we have to say him? Don't have to do anything. I think that you can put that one in past tense. I'm pretty sure so Would you argue culture then if we're going back, we're moving, I think we're moving past the those guys. I think there's got to be a, you know, a component of current form. I like this one. Taylor Gooch, of course, got to put him up there with his favorite record, of course, is one of the best players, yeah, to not one of major. Yeah, I mean, Tiro Hatton, I guess that we're talking about like top players in the

world. Doesn't necessarily have the win resume. He's kind of falls in with Tommy for me, where it's like, yes, but it's almost like we're skipping a step here. Like I just didn't feel like Tommy was, yeah, his first win is going to be a major like

Tommy's seventh top five in a major. Would you put big tone up there, Sally? Uh, like Tommy's seventh top five in a major. Would you put big tone up there, Sally? Up like I put him above Tommy in terms of like resume and getting close to and like not having a major. I mean, I mean, Tommy's got zero PGA Tor wins, right? I mean, we've got to it's I know. I know. I'm getting at zero BDE wins. Uh, yeah, the playoff event that he won with all of the top players in the world,

there doesn't count for anything. No, people keep still coming to me in the streets about that bad win. That was amazing. Yeah, you only beat Cam Smith in a playoff. I'm sure that all 2019 fucking bark laser, whatever it was, delivered at, delivered in Northern playoffs. I was third at all. 2019 fucking barclays or whatever it was. Livered at the Liberty Northern trust. That was more like Cam Smith lost it anyway. Yeah, that's true. I don't know. I can't.

I can't. Victor is like going to be the best if he's not right now. Yeah. Tough day. I would say like I would like to apologize. I was riding for him last night. I thought he was going to have a big Sunday and he shot two over. So that was That's my mistake guys. I'm going to own that Appreciate that I just I would shout out his overall major year though. I mean that felt like a pretty decent-sized leap for Hovland

Tough final day, but I mean T7 the Masters T2 at the PGA obviously and then 19th at the US Open and then T13 this go around while shooting a million today at 73 today. So I, Havelin felt like when the golf got bigger this year, he played better, which is a strong, I'm strongly endorsed that. I agree. I agree. We did, we talked about, I mean, if you guys are going to accuse me of Sep Strocco, erasure, we haven't mentioned that name yet.

And he finished time for second at the open championship. I mean, what more is there to say? We've been so hard for a team. I mean, I think our point is a lot. Well, don't you guys get right at any harder filling up the cup. I mean, his cup with runneth over, sorry, he just, the guy is, he's a player. He's an absolute player. And just because he's a guard, you don't like him. And I think we need to talk about that.

Some of the bits have gone off the rails. I know. It's been a long week though. Listen, I'm still jet lag. Sorry. But no, I think he's a two top 10s of the major league here. Really good golf. T7 at the PGA. People forget that. And if you go back to last year, one last year, on the Honda, loss of a playoff to Zalatoris. I can't remember where, but I remember that happening. Like he's been playing good golf for 12 to 18 months.

Lost him. He lost them and Memphis to his outdoor son. Memphis, thank you. So I think, you know, he deserves, yeah, he does deserve a shout out for just for doing things. Harmon, Harmon, ask. Harmon style. Can I, can I ask a question that I just would like, like, answered, I don't, I don't, I truly, I'm, I'm genuinely curious here.

So he, like, missed the cut at the US open and finished his T2 at the open. Why does, like, why does the peak week count so much in your guys' minds? And the, and the, like, Miss cut means nothing in terms of like, put them on the team. Like, I genuinely curious here. It's, I have no defense. That's, it's a very, very good point. I totally agree with you. Whoa. Yeah. I don't know how to react to that, very good point. I totally agree. Whoa. Yeah. I don't know how to react to that. I've never, I've not heard that. I still think you should be on the team, but I, I see that's fine. I see what you're getting at.

And I agree that the peak weeks are, you know, they got to all be taken, taken into account. I don't know. I think the peak weeks, listen, everybody has bad weeks. Yeah. I was looking for what the, what the ceiling is. Are, are you though? Or I think salt, everybody has bad weeks. But we're looking for what the what the ceiling is. Are you though? I think so that's that's speak for my client. I think you'd be looking for like what the floor is, right? No, I think I think you want to make sure you find. Otherwise, you're trying to time it up, right?

You're trying to make sure like we have this guy whose floor is lower, but hopefully he has that dog. You only chance your I think the only chance your Europe has is for guys to hit their ceiling. If it's a floor competition, they're going to get smoked. Yeah, that's fair. I mean, I would say Sep has also erased his floor over the last three months, right? I mean, his play has been, he's been going up there among the top like 12 Europeans over the last three months.

It's, if you extrapolate that out over a larger sample size, it most certainly has not been and he's been close to an average professional over that time. But like if we're talking about somebody informed it's playing, we've we've long joked about him of being like very inconsistent. You have no idea what you're going to get weak to weak. That is starting to trend in a different direction. That is he's obviously over the last month has been playing fantastic golf. And he drives a really freaking good. And when you're looking at like a guy who's,

you know, I would say him and like who's got a higher ceiling? Him or Nick like Hoi Guard right now. Well, there's also I think it's probably Sep. I try to argue a lot better. It's like, what? I think it's kind of a done deal. Like, okay, if you go by the data, like, Hatton, and I'm a Hatton fan

He's a like top five machine the guy is consistent. He plays really good golf and the numbers bear it out Etc And then you got a guy like to struck a who's one? twice in the last 18 months and T2 at a major he's shown that he can like get the job done more than hat and can on the upside. I think that that deserves a lot of credit too is what I'm getting at. So like, do you just want a bunch of drones in there that don't win? I guess that's what I'm getting at with the upside.

Like, why does it matter that he is T2 at the open and he missed the cut? Because I think it's important that a guy can get all the way up there that can get the job done. And that's why like Harmon is like, yes, him winning the open championship is like that to me is like, yes, put him on the team like the dude can get it done. So that that the upside matters more to me than the downside. And it would be also for you saw the argument of like, why do you want JT? Like guy just shot 80 and two straight, you know, major champion. Well, he's proven that he can get there. Now, can he get back there in two months? I don't know.

But I would argue that the upside is more important with a team game like that. For me. Okay. I was genuinely curious for the answer on that. I believe question answers. Thank you for that. I think it might be incredibly obvious, but the thing I will always go back to is always you want to pick the guy that you're betting on playing the best golf that week, right? I mean, the Stroke's game stuff can tell a story, but it means absolutely nothing when the balls go in the air. Of course, so like if you

have, if the captain's feel like, Hey, JT is going to be a great option for this team to go play great golf, like that's who we want to take. And if you feel that way about Seb Strauk, I'll take him, I 100% take him. It's just, I don't think the answer would be like, ah, I mean, like at the US Open, he played really well. It's got to be like, no, I think he's ready to ball out at Marco Simone this week, this format.

That's, that's, that's the guy that, like that's a million birdies. The guy that makes a million, like does the stroke scheme, this a question. The stroke scheme worked the same for match play like a guy that is volatile is is good in match play in my in my head at least it's like yeah if you mix triple like it doesn't matter It's just worth like he's down one or and that's where like struck as a perfect example of like yeah I want him because he has the potential to make more birdies than anybody

You made more birdies this week, I think like the guy just has a knack for getting the ball in the hole and getting hot. Like that's a perfect rider cup guy. Here I'm in. I mean, just again, like birdie average on PJ Taurus struck as 66th, right? So like over the over it. I'm using this weekend as an example.

And last week at the John Deere where he went like Nuke sub 500 under So there's something to me there's something to that so but my question still remains like to You still want to look at strokes gained for a match play team event like is that I think it tells a story But it doesn't you know, it is a different format. It is a different, like, again, the match play events are going to be this, like, teeny, tiny sample size where like, yeah, I mean, Scottie, sheffler might go, oh, and four in, in Italy, but like, are we saying we shouldn't take them? No, like it, it, it, it tells a story, but it doesn't like perfectly predict anything, right? So I think you can get, like, walk

yourself into something like, oh, but he fills it up with birdies. And it's like, well, just that's this past week. He does, but over the course of the season does he, I don't know, you can twist yourself in a pretzel with no matter what. I think points wise, he looks to be in a lot better shape to make it anyways. Also, and if Rory is saying he's going to be on, then I think that's probably means a very good sign for him. So maybe that's what the points are for then is to like, almost give the captain's a little bit of breathing room. Like it would probably because they, they are probably twisting themselves into a pretzel on try to, if they had to make 12 picks, like, they'd be second guessing themselves so much on this stuff.

It would be sick. Like, we think it's sick. We'd be like, Oh, this is awesome. But they're probably like, fuck that, man. Like, make, make me take six. And then I'll worry about the rest. Yeah. Which is, again, how quickly we forget that it used to be like what 10 and two and eight and four and all like used to be way more. Tammy, but also I'm going to throw flag that I think we're going to probably continue to talk about the rider cup over the next. Sure. Sorry. The next couple of weeks.

I think we're, I think we're getting the move on. Look from Randy. What were you guys talking about? Randy, let me ask you this. What was your favorite major of the year? Major seasons over? Weirdly the PGA, but I say that with a caveat, was pretty out of pocket during all of the US open. So not a lot to go off there. So of the remaining three, I really enjoyed the PGA. I thought it was good theater. I enjoyed the course setup. I think that's the one I'm going to remember the most. I'm absolutely with you. I think that's when I'm looking back on the season. I mean,

the Ram Agusta stuff was awesome, but Brooks, like becoming the dude and, you know, moving ahead of Rory, given Rory another, you know, nine months to think about that. And I blocked it. And of course, I think it's a mock. Shout out to DJ Khaled too. I think Bokki's going to maybe join the show in a little bit. We try to get him on. But I'm with you.

PGA and Brooks, Brooks reclaiming his throne was really, really, really good stuff. Boys either riding for anything else? No, PGA was was a really, really freaking good major. And I'm springing this on you guys with no preparation for this, but this major season changed your opinions on what sticks out. Like who whose opinion was reformed by the major championships this season for you guys? I think Brooks for me for sure. Yeah, I think it's I know that's easy, but it's like, we didn't know what his status was when he went to live.

We didn't know how hard he was. We didn't know if he cared about golf anymore. We didn't know what was going on. And I think like at least personally, candidly, like I got it way wrong, I think, right? Like I would have guessed that he was taking a much easier way out. He was kind of trying to ride off and didn't know how much, you know, really super top of the world hyper competitive golf he had left in his career. And he absolutely stuffed me in a locker on that idea because we saw the opposite of

that at the PGA and it was really fun to watch. I don't think you had that wrong though. I mean, he flat out said that on the Netflix series. And he also said this year like, I guess it wasn't I'll permanently permanently set at that that setting, you know. But he said like his health was like a concern. If his health was different, he may have made a different decision. Yeah. Right. So I think it was very reasonable to come to that conclusion. I think because he had even reached that conclusion. But I would agree. It's all right. Well those four majors were not just like a hot run like you are like still that dude When it all clicks for you So the first question I would it's hard to argue with the pga. I think that was epic four days for a lot of reasons

Especially blockies hole in one But I think there was a moment there with the weather, there was a flip with the masters, where it was like it got delayed, the trees are falling, pets heads are falling off. Like it was just bad for like the first two days. And then it like flipped and went like fill and,

and speed were dueling and, you know, it was like, it was an epic Sunday of golf when they had to finish the Saturday round and play right into the Sunday round. I think that stands out to me as maybe a close second. So I think it was an under, like, people on its face, the masters didn't look like a fun one because there wasn't like a duel down the stretch,

but I really enjoyed the way that week like flipped a little bit for me. And then two, I think Hovlin would be a close second to Bruce. For me, I became a fan. I remember on the Master's live show, I mean, that guy's lingering. He's not a loiter. Like, he's a pretender.

Totally flipped my opinion. I feel like he's been, like you said it just earlier, Sally, like when the golf gets big, he's playing better. And at the PGA, I was like, I became a massive fan. Yeah, agree. I was gonna, I became a massive fan. Yeah, I agree. I was gonna give him an also receiving votes. Yeah, I was definitely havelin'. That's also receiving votes as Ram.

I mean, his profile was bigger than having one major. I think now the gun's kind of turned towards Scottie Shepfler. I'm like, dude, your profile's bigger than having one major and a win and a T2 finish for Ram. I mean, listen, he fell short of the grand slam that a lot of people were predicting for him, but barely, barely. But like, you know, winning a runner up in a major

at Granite kind of vacated the premises there for the middle part of the year and for the first couple rounds of this tournament. But that's, I mean, when two majors you start getting a pass on the... No, he just went under the waves and then just for a second. Buick comes for a he just went he just went under the waves. And then just for a second, boo, he comes for screaming back up to the surface. I would say I felt like it was Sunday at the PGA. I was like, man, we haven't had a random winner of a major in a long time. It was like got a big horse is only man. Brian Harman. Here you go. Like a win for mega corp. There we

should should, you know, receiving Hall of Fame votes as well, I probably should throw one to Wyndham Clark and, and Brian Harman, I didn't see that coming from me there to them, but I think Wyndham Clark, especially, solid to your point was like, man, that guy's still very young and seems like he has all the tools and could be an absolute factor for the next 10 years. Which like goes back to a lot of what I was discussing

with Harman earlier, like my, my expectation for Wyndham Clark going forward changed after you have opened. It was like, Oh, shit, big time player. And Harmon, I'm kind of like, do we have a career sample size here? This was an outstanding week that no one will ever take away from you. But like, does it really change how you project Brian Harmon going forward? Is the basis of a lot of the mean, mean, so mean comments. I'm seeing flash up on the screen from a listener. So I will stand by that. Another question again, without putting a ton of thought in this, there was a lot, a

lot of discussion over the last year, year and a half about players that are leaving for live. What is this going to mean for majors? Are they going to be ready to play? They're going to miss out on opportunities to play, looking back on the season of majors, the four majors. What is, what, what, what comes to mind in terms again, without looking at the data too closely as to how the live golfers performed in majors this past year? D, I'll start with you.

Uh, I said a lot about Brooks already. I mean, I think that was like the big, the big thing, right? Was like our, our, our any, do any of these guys care about majors? Do any of these guys, are they gonna take it seriously? Like, I'm on the most extreme end of the spectrum, which again, hand up. I certainly dipped my toe into that pool at times too. So I think him kind of slamming the door at least personally on that stuff was very, very interesting and compelling

and I think just made golf kind of in a year that like golf probably got shittier. I think that actually made things a little more interesting. At the same time, I think there was probably a lot of like these two tectonic plates are gonna just slam into each other at the majors and there's gonna be these, there's gonna be fireworks and it's gonna be good versus evil

and it's gonna be all this like these guys haven't seen each other and how are they going to treat each other. I think that all predictably probably fell pretty flat. Right. Like when you ask the question, it's kind of like, oh, I yeah, it didn't really like matriculate at all. It was kind of just another year of golf at the majors, right? And then I think on the other end of the spectrum, not to piss on the whole conversation here, but I think you have someone like Taylor Gooch who like the farthest end of the spectrum here is like, these guys are fucking dogs, these guys are killers, these tournaments are irrelevant. If these guys are not in the field, they're all asterisk majors.

And Taylor Gooch is late like the biggest, and egg, the likes of which we've never seen at the majors this year and it's like cool man like enjoy Joy-jetta enjoy you know, the room enjoy remaining years kind of conversation Not interested in and really anything that's going on there I think I would agree. Yeah, I think I would agree with most all of that. I, you know, I certainly, for instance, this week was not necessarily missing like Sergio or some of the guys that have not been able to get into majors. I think Brooks has been the biggest story probably for his resurgence, which we've talked about. I think pretty much other than that, though, it's been business as usual.

I mean, I'm struggling to think of anybody who really deviated from maybe what I was expecting or what I thought possible in either direction. I think it is much less of a story than we thought. And yeah, I don't have much more than that, I guess. Neil, do you feel any differently? I would say, or Brooks is doing a lot of the heavy lifting. All right.

If you're going to, you know, live guys as a unit, he gets a, a dub for him. Hey, listen, there's an argument to be made like these guys, these guys can all play, but overall, I would say like guys like Bryson, Gooch, like kind of disappointing in the majors. Cam. Cam is a, you know, top 10, though, which I had to look them up. I don't necessarily remember a wiki, a wiki well, you know.

So I think it's, it's everybody. But then it was almost like the guys you you expected the top guy like fills what he did at the Masters. I thought was like, man, that was I was sick. Like he's still got it. Like I would like to I hope he continues to play in the Masters because that was fun to watch. But if you're asking me like Charles, how the third, I think you won twice on the lift or this year. Like, do I think he was going to be a fucking killer this week at the open? Like, not really. You know, I don't really, I think about Abe answered today.

Like, yo, my guy, Jo Keen, you know, Keen's not, he was there. He didn't do much. You know, so that's a good guy. Like, guys like, oh, hey, man, you can't, you're hollowing out your depth. It's like, I don't know if we really are like, I don't think I'm missing much there. I don't know what's going on with Joaquin, but he's got to be the most disappointing. Yeah. Yeah. I think Neil, if I remember right, you predicted two live wins and majors at the start of

the year. I predicted one. I predicted one live win major. I thought, I thought Dustin would win one this year. I think DJ is probably my biggest disappointment. Granted, he had some disappointments kind of before he left for live. I expected one of Cam or DJ to win a major this year. I was not expecting. I thought Cam was going to come in and ball out the masters of the US Open and he just didn't do it. So, you know, I just don't I think it I feel like I initially very initially was like, dude, how are these guys ever going to compete in majors when they don't play nearly as much and they're playing 54 halterna minutes and shorts and stuff like that.

And I shifted pretty quickly, even before the major start, I was like, dude, I mean, they're world class players. Like they're going to figure out I would be surprised if we look back and said, wow, they totally shit the bed. And I think it was very quickly disproven in the early part of the year that they can't the, the notion that they maybe wouldn't be able to compete was disproven very quickly. And kind of ended with a whimper. I mean, really disappointing overall performance this week, but it also just at the end of it all, it still just made me sad and disappointed

of like, I miss watching camsmith play meaningful golf against against a lot of these dudes. And I miss watching Brooks play a lot more frequently. And I miss watching DJ play and. And I miss watching Cam Smith play meaningful golf against against a lot of these dudes. And I miss watching Brooks play a lot more frequently. And I miss watching DJ play and, uh, and I miss having to hear round and guys that in Bryson, Bryson, I said, like, it's fun to tweet about and, and, and, and, and, and, and criticize. I don't know. It's just kind of like they took their ball and one elsewhere, which is, you know, good for them.

I would say though, with maybe some of those guys have learned is there's definitely a next man up mentality. Like there's a lot of guys that are good at golf, like a Brian Harman that are like, yeah, man, I'll just kind of, I'll just take your spot. Yeah. You know, it's like the WPA, Deed, you know, if you're up there working on the Hoover Dam, you don't want to, yeah, there's a whole line of people down here. If you don't want to put it in concrete, they're going to come up and do it for you, man. No gratitude, Neil. Yeah. The Mule, the Mule line, the Mule caravan is long. So we, uh, shall we get to our Yeti Coltus moment of the week? Oh, hell yeah. Uh, why don't you, I don't have the, I was supposed to organize the line. I'm supposed to say in front

of this and I don't believe I did. So if somebody wants to go first with their Yeti Colt's moment of the week, I can grab that. Yes, I think I can go first or actually, why don't you throw a, well, throw Randy first. Yeah, mine's, uh, mine's Brian Harman. I found this old hunting photo of him and kind of looked like what he was doing across four days here at Hoy Lake. It just for those listening on the podcast just completely camoed out. He was ice cold, man. I, we've talked about it every time he, you thought, oh, is this the bogey that starts

the crack? He seemed to bounce back with Bertie, just never, never really gave anybody any hope. So I had a coldest moment was kind of across the final three days, honestly. We should have gotten TC one of those ghillie suits like that. Once Tommy, it became clear he wasn't going to win.

Just get him out there hiding in the dudes, he'd have to show his face everywhere. Rainy, let me go next because mine was also Harman related. I'm going to give it's I'm going to get really granular and really specific here. But I'm going to give the Yeti coldest moment of the week to Harman coming off the golf course after round three, just refusing to give any putting insights to car banks after the after his round, which he's like, oh, you know, you said you figured out something with the punter. Like, could you tell us what it is?

He's like, no. Just like, no, no, no, really? Yeah. No, I'm not going to tell you, I'm not going to tell you what I figured out. I'm just not done. Jobs not done. I'm just going to keep keep making putts. I thought that was, that was

a like weirdly took me off guard, but that also like kind of made me laugh. And I really respected it. So shout out to you. Neil, Neil, before we get to you, the Rambler 18 ounce bottles, your must have cold drinking vessel that should be immediately added to your bag. The tough bottle is double wall vacuum insulated to keep your water ice cold until the last sip at his dishwasher safe for easy cleaning and come standard with the chug cap, live the shatter

resistant drinking spout that allows for easy pulls on the go. I absolutely love this thing. Neil coldest moment of the week. Well, Rainy, that's a yonder ball. That's not a rambler. I know what I love it. It's my favorite. I actually use that one for camping. It's not quite as heavy. It doesn't keep this cold, but it's not quite as heavy. But it's good for golf. If I may, it's good for golf. When you use it, it's my favorite. I actually use that one for camping. It's not quite as heavy. It doesn't keep it as cold, but it's not quite as heavy. But it's good for golf. If I may, it's good for

golf. When you need something lighter, you can throw in your golf bag and you're churning through water so fast. Anyway, it doesn't really need to turn it. All right. Well, listen, I'm going to coast moment of the week is it's an easy one for me. It's this is a picture of me in my teepee. This is post shower. The coldest moment of the week was every time I had to walk the 200 yards to the showers and back. And it was, you know, like only 60 degrees, but it's one of those things where you're just like, God, man, I got to go in here. And it's one of those showers where you had to press the button and you got like max 15 seconds of water. So you got to like, there's no way to put your soap. And I didn't have soap for the first day. And I got some soap. And then you

got to like get the soap on your hands, like, it lather up and then like okay you know it's like just a countdown to when I'm going to be freezing my nuts off again and then he had to walk back and that's why I had on the the toe here. Was there any heat in the tent? No. So it's just just blanket and you didn't did you bring blankets? Did they have blankets for you? No, they had a blanket for me and I had to be cold overnight. Well, it was, it got really hot during the day. Actually, the TPs like retained heat really well. So, but temperature regulation was a struggle all week, not only in the TPs, but out on the course. It's that classic.

You got your layers, but then the sun comes out, so then I'm sweating. And then, but then the wind picks up. And so you just can't really figure out your proper layer technique. But we made it work. So this was a moment there. I think this is day three, where I was just like, man, I'd like to, uh, I'd like to find a bed. That'd be cool. How much would I have hated the 10th, Neil? I I'm you wouldn't fit on the cot, Randy. Yeah, I just It would not have been good for you. It looks fun for other people. I have zero personal interest. I'm sorry But I love doing it. I would like to send you a random action and shout out. Yeah, we get no pouch of misery Um, there's a lot of ways we could have gone with this. Of course, I got to do this for our guy TC. This was a fantastic tweet from five star preps. It was, it is, of course, from Goodwill hunting Photoshop.

There he said, sorry, I had to go see about a lad and signed it. Ron, that was an incredible, incredible Photoshop here. The coldest moment was TC spending his Saturday night overnight over the Atlantic, the coldest moment was TC spending his Saturday night overnight over the Atlantic and going to go show up, get drenched in the rain to watch Tommy Ladd fall apart on Sunday. It was just incredible stuff. So hopefully he's playing the Guinness game right now and he's hoisting a few pints, making it all worth it. We didn't talk any Rory. We didn't talk any Rory. Randy, you want to talk about Rory? I mean, listen, I think Rory is, he's, he's a mirror to your own self, you know, you can meet personally or just

everybody. No, I think everybody, you can look at his ear and be like, man, he played really well in the biggest events. And you could also say, well, he didn't win anything. And that was major droughts up to 10 years. Everybody knows what it is. I think it's firmly what side you want to come down on. I mean, I don't know. I guess the question would be more for you guys then. Yeah. I didn't run a block party this week. I just felt like it was supposed the right thing to do wasn't the right thing to do. The vibe wasn't right. The worst thing is you have a party and nobody has any fun, you know, and I, but I got it. He just when he made

those three birdies on the front nine today, it's just like what I hate about this is that I knew he was going to get stuck in neutral. And that's exactly what happened. He's like, he's going to go backwards now. And it's set of, you know, so it's a little, it was a tough ask today. I mean, it wasn't today that was the problem. It was yesterday and all the puts he missed, like 15 of them from inside 20 feet. So he's just put himself behind the eight ball and then it's just this, you're asking for a miracle kind of on Sunday. Can I give you? I want a root form. I do. I still, I still enjoy watching play golf.

And I'm hopeful for next year. Can I give you the most obvious take ever? Yeah. 18 holes is so many holes. It's so long to, to like keep that going. And it's what I think every single time is just like oh my god It's a good like two three four-hole stretch like that's it. We've got it. We've we've licked this thing, man And it's like no, no, we got like three and a half hours of this that we got to we got to keep going and it's just

I don't know he's he's maybe maybe because we see so many of his shots on TV Maybe because we follow his rounds so closely, but like, he's just the personification of man around a golf is just, it's so long and so hard. And it just, on a week like this, it makes you respect what Brian Harmon did, even more, just Mayo and Mustard and keeping it between and, you know, keeping that mentality for that long

is so impressive. Flip side of that, as you're saying, Randy, is like he keeps showing up in top 10 in majors, which is the hardest thing to do. We've seen how hard it is for someone like Max, right? Not to take up backhand, it's wipe it, Max. But it's like Max has been trying to gear up every single week for the last four or five years of like, man, I just, I got to crack one of these top 10s. And Roy just kind of seems like he does it with like his C game, right? Like he's just, he's always, always there except for the masters this year. Obviously, missed the cut, but it's, it's, uh, I don't know.

I don't really have a lot to, I don't know what else you can even say. I'll be there. I mean, Neil, I'll see your ass, you know, second week April. We'll get the, we'll get the, we'll get the picnic tables out. We'll get the, you know, I got out. We'll get the talk. I got a number for the teepee guy. Yeah. I give you those set up for the squad. A couple of big wavms maybe earlier the year. I would say I felt like for like for the most of the week, we're going to hit the ball really, really well. It seemed like especially for

I really Saturday. I thought he did. I really did. I thought he just couldn't make a putt. Maybe I'm zero in it on Saturday, but, um, I'm ready to go the up. So wait, because to me, it, it, it felt like on third, I think it was Thursday, when he got to 18 T, he took iron out and I was like, ah, shit, like he, he doesn't have his stuff. Like he, he drove the ball horribly on, and I don't, I don't even know what the strokes gain say because like he's always going to hit it far. So he's going to, you know, get some nice numbers out of that. But he just didn't look like he had his best stuff today. I

feel like in the last two years, we've, we've raised the floor like in majors for him. I also feel like that means almost nothing. Like I think like last year, I thought was a very serious, really good effort in the majors, a different style of golf than we saw 2019 through 2021 where he was just like another dude. I mean, just a non factor out of the gate almost every, every time in a major played himself out of it, like very quickly. Last year, really good year. This year played really obviously a very, very good effort at the U.S. Open, um, mediocre ish.

I mean, just kind of still didn't feel like he played his best at the PGA or this week had good finishes, but I, I mean, I know how he looks at it. It doesn't really mean anything to him at this point. T6 means the same as T30 probably to him and raising the floor just doesn't mean a whole lot. So overall, like I still think he's got to be asking himself the question, like why why in the in like the four weeks of the year when you want to play your best golf, do you not have your stuff? We haven't seen gas pedal rory in a decade now, and majors, and it's hard because it's every year, they just add one more layer of scar tissue

and he's gonna show up to the masters with the same expectations no matter what happens in the lead up. And it's just gonna be a fascinating thing to continue to follow. And we're all rooting for it. You know what, there with gas pedal, Roy, like when he had those three birdies on the front today, it's like, you just think, yeah, maybe maybe this is the time where he, you know, he hits the noss button. And it's like, fuck, I know he's not going to do

it. It's, it's still like, I say this after pretty much all these majors, I think, but like, there's just this, I call it hopeful, Roy, like, there's just that look when he hit the shot and he looks up at it and he's just like hoping it's going in the right place versus the one where it's like, dude, I know it's going right here. And this week felt hopeful. It just felt like he didn't really know where it was going. He didn't have the shots, you know, that they needed to fight the win when it was windy and just did not have the sustainable run in them this week. But I don't know what is great for the year. Be I would say a B in the majors probably

I mean three top 10s is in a really close. I think round two that's open. I think that's right. I think what's it's like how I know we just end up saying the same shit over and over. But it's like I wish you could explain just how incredible 10, or I'm sorry, 20 top 10s since his last win is, right? Like that graphic got flashed up there. And we said all the time with like long careers, but it's, dude, it's, it's, how many majors that is? It's leading up, you know, it's the flight there.

It's thinking about it. It's answering all the questions. It's round one. Well, what'd you do in round one. Well, what you doing round one? Okay, now we're on to round two just over and over and over and doing that and like coming up with 20 top 10s since his last win is So that's so many top 10s to not have a win 80 rounds worth of top 10s Yeah, just how hard it's driving in fucking insane. And it's so solid, you said fascinating. Like the dichotomy between like how well you have to play

to be that close and how frustrating that must be to not be able to break through is truly unbelievable. I wish I was smarter and could describe it in better terms. But I mean, it's a decade-long version of what we're seeing with Scotty, right? Where it's like, man, I'm just playing really, really good. I just can't seem to quite get over the hump, right? It's like, do that for a decade in the biggest events

that you care about. And it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. If I was, I know this is Randy's gonna cringe at this, but I'm just gonna throw something out at you guys, but Data Golf has a wonderful, a stat, basically. It's like, if you looked at all of your performance and all your majors,

you can see how many expected wins you would have in that. What do you think Rory's is? He's one four majors. What do you think is expected wins in majors is? So this is sorry, his whole career, since his last one. His whole career. His whole career.

Probably not that many, like, I mean, 6.7. Yeah, I was gonna say six. It's four. Really? Yeah. So like again, what were I like it was like, but if you think back to like 2011 through 2014, there was no close calls. Like, yeah, you don't got get 4 runs at it and get 4 trophies. Like it was maybe an outsized achievement in that time period. And yet at this time, as we've gone along, it's been just an evening out. There's like, I'm looking at his best performance in a major that it wasn't a win was at the US Open this year, which had a win expectancy of like 36% of the time with that stroke scale number, you would expect to win a major. But

like when he won the PGH Championship in 2014, that number was 42%. Right. So it's really close on those lines. I like, did you get a win out of this performance or did you not? And it is, that was the, yeah, this passed you as open, put them up to 4.3, which rounds down to four. So it's like incredibly spot on to this point. Really. I think there's, there's a way like you guys were talking about gas pedal. Interesting. It is. It really is. Very interesting. There's like you guys were talking about gas pedal. Interesting. It is. It really is. Very interesting. There's you guys were talking about gas pedal. Rory.

And I saw this in the comments earlier, but I do think it's almost like time to, it probably has been for a very long time, but it's time to almost like think of him as two different players, right? Like that guy is like that 25 year old dude or however he was when he, when he won at Hoi Lake, like they're, they're not the same guy right now. And I think he's like, we've talked about this a lot too. Like I think he's a much better like capital G golfer right now. Like I think he has so many more shots right now, but it is, it's almost gets more interesting.

Like think of them as two different, two different players. Like I think it's, if he does break the best player to never make, win a major. I think you can make that, make that argument. Certainly. Right to point out. Yeah. But I think like if he is going can make that argument, certainly. Right, two point out. Yeah, but I think if he is going to get it done, Neil, I guess my point with this is like,

I don't think it's going to be like, oh yeah, let me just, oh, that's right, I forgot to channel that thing that I did 11, 12, 13 years ago. Like, I don't think that's how it's going to happen, right? It's going to be a totally different style of winning, which is again, just kind of endlessly fascinating if we're trying to get inside these guys. Noggins.

I'll be there. I'll see you in April, DJ. I'll see you there, man. I'll see you there. And don't forget, we get the FedEx cup. Like I know, he's going to be joining us for the ball. I think TC's putting maybe a brisket on or something for the FedEx cup playoffs. I know he's going to be really jacked up for that. So, you know, everybody can come by his place for that, for that block party.

It, it was funny digging into those stats to like see who has overachieved a bit and who has underachieved a little bit or who's gotten lucky, who's gotten unlucky. Tiger, a little bit lucky, like expected major wins like between 12 and 13, meaning like he's got a couple that have. I think on his back though, there's a leaderboard gravity tiger effect. I can see that. That goes a bit of an ocean. I love this. Rainies go love it. No, got bone. The most of anyone that I found was Phil. Phil expected major wins of eight and all the only one six. Ernie had to be up there too. Including Phil has the greatest major performance ever to have not won the major of course 2016 at Trune. His

Win expectancy was 0.999. Got beat by Stenson. Which is got us to sick. Just feel about Phil is so good. I mean, talk about 53 years old finishing runner up at the Masters this year, winning a major past the age of 50. Like I that we're still kind of fill as part of this conversation with Rory and Jordan and like the guys who are in their primes. I don't know. The longer we go on, it just makes it clear like I don't see anybody today that's like on the level of fill level of tiger. And that's ultimately I think what we're after.

I guess Brooks has that chance, but you know, do we need to talk about the week to week stuff? He doesn't compare certainly. Can you talk about the links faster? Did you have super high expectations? Not really. Yeah, it's kind of where I'm at. You need to talk about Steve's thing on unfinished business. Well, we have a great quick on speed. He's kind of re finish his business. I will say business. Yeah, he was. He's going back for lifetime value. Correct. Upsell a new, correct customer. So I'll jump in here whenever you'd like.

Well, it's all that. What makes me a concerned, sad, whatever it is, feels like he's kind of down to like two majors a year where he's got a legitimate shot. And this being one of them, sink. And that feels like worrisome. Like when you put in that much pressure on the two weeks of the mate that you could possibly win a major, that's tough, right? And it felt like, I remember the Thursday Friday, I was like, dude, it is a crime that we don't get to watch this dude play the style of golf more than one week a year.

And when it went a ride this close out the week, it was just like, dude, it's, it's, he's just not the dude. So you're saying that the PGA and the US Open speed his game doesn't fit either of those It has not trended that way. It is not feel that I mean PGA's have just been long narrow fairway thick rough and has he's not had a good run in those And US opens I just don't go to these a lot of these courses and think like oh Jordan speed time, right? And I I should have thought that going into this week and I I didn't have that feeling. But it just, I mean, if you look at, he has not topped, he topped, he got T3 at best page in 2019. But the last eight PGAs in the US

opens his best finishes T19, which I think he is. I would almost run back at everything I've said about Rory 2.0 and apply that to Jordan as well, right? It's like trying to gauge him against, you know, 2015 masters, 2015 US Open Jordan is like, oh, this is a different human being, man. Like this. I feel like SuperFortgart issue, different golf swing. He's about to have two kids. Like, he is.

I think this is all, I'm probably realizing a lot of us problems here, but like holding him to the same expectations is probably our problem there. I feel like speed should take a year and go play like when the Hickory National like world championship. A lot of people are saying that. Right. It's getting loud. What do you call sabbatical? Yeah, and go play with hickories for a year. Just get back to actually. I'm reborn. You know, maybe not even take the majors off. Just like, you know, take off like May through or maybe the fall, right? Like we don't know what the fuck's going to happen with the PJ tour.

We don't even know what like what tour these guys are going to be played on. You might as well just I don't want to get back to that. You guys just love it tonight. You guys just let me know where we're going to be. I would be played the play the national Hickory open. I got a sponsor's equipment. I will to your point there about the the comp to Rory. Like I would say speed has fallen way farther off of his like peak.

Then Rory has like definitely is still playing very good. He's staying golfing to week and Jordan is not the same. Yeah, it's thank you. I will apologize. Of course, DJ, we had a apology. Thanks, man. You took the big Maron Kowski. Yeah. Adrian Moronke. I had Hodgkin for some reason. And I don't know who T.C. had, but he had a apology. That's a very, he said it was not a fair bet. And basically I needed strokes. You know, I'm going to go foxy. It gets barunk. We're on.

Be this shit out of it. No one could talk. We'll apologize for that. I don't think anyone took big to one Rosner. I don't even know what the parameters were for this pick. I think it was just like an

alt the board. Just a head to head of certain odds. Got you. Like, uh, let's say you don't agree with it. I think I think I think us absolutely riding for Brian Harman in the preview pod, Digge. I think it absolves us for any other bad takes that that have happened this past. Yeah. I would encourage everybody to go seek

that out. I wouldn't look at who we actually bet on. I think that's the thing. In Conclave week for the boys. Yeah. That's an internal game that we're playing. That's what the podcast. But the podcast where we did list, like 56 players, I would encourage everybody to go look to go listen to that. I thought we fucking nailed it. As always, we named the winner during the preview podcast. Alex Fitzpatrick was a great story. week Tsep turning in and you know open qualified for this through the open qualifying and Partly that into a T17 finish Disappointing kind of he had a great start to the day and I'm shooting two over today But that was a really fun story

So it's gonna be so stoked that we drop in and beat his Also an sellman Great glad that came through just in time I was a JT's really close. You know, people are just beating him up unfairly. And I don't think I'm talking about withland enough. I really don't. And who knows what's going on with TGL, too?

You know, I think we did this right. It's talking about that. Thomas Peters used to be such a great player. He's just not anymore. I don't know what it is. Shout out to Paul Hurst in the comments. Matthew Jordan was a very cool story. He's a Liverpool member getting to hit the first shot this week and then falling out, playing really well, hanging around T10. That was, that was awesome, man. I can't imagine what I'm like for him. Imagine playing that during the club championship. And Randy shout out to your

boy, Christo, getting the low amateur. I know that that's a thrill for you. It's good for him. Only am to make the cut, right? Yeah. Yeah. Big shout to the big man. I, you, you, you, you breeze right past this one, DJ, but sub max one to congratulate me on back to back.

Second place finishes for my camp wind picks at the last two majors, which between Rory and Ram. So I'd like to celebrate that. I thought you might pick Tom Kim. You guys didn't didn't. All you know, all the broadside of history. No, I apologize for Tom Kim. Not, not apologize for kicking you out, but I apologize for Tom Kim, just a little bit that hell of a season at the majors. I think that was was my big massive critique was like, are you projecting massive major championship success on Tom Kim? If not, I do not give a shit.

And there was a pretty good stretch there where it looked like we didn't know. I thought he was gonna be a little bit of a Schreiner's hospitals for children open, you know, just to Hunter. And he showed up big in the majors, two top 10s of the majors this year. I'll all offered apology, Sally. Not apology for him being thirsty. Not going to apologize for that. That's not I won't either. I'll apologize for his game. I will apologize. What would have been if he could have been healthy, you know, I know like Paul, up there with Tiger

with O8 Dan Hicks that he there were there were concerns. He may not even play this week. Yeah. Again, we're referring to the back port of patio related injury. Yeah. To your to your thought, DJ about, you know, maybe it's a Shriner, he beats up the Shriner's. I would I would always as a consistent take I think I've had usually wait before people turn 21 before projecting out their career. That's just that's just what I would ask, right? That's that's you need to you do. If I may as your general counsel, I would try to get TC on the record about a like number

of PJ tour wins before age 26, but him and Ludwig. Oh, that'd be interesting. I think you could I think you could probably you could date them in that. I think you could probably put put TC away for a long time. Get them to get them to agree to one of those. Tax evasion. Yeah, you could get them on some entrapment. There's some mechanism, some levers you could pull to really. I have to in snare TC and something he doesn't want to be in. He might go to space the week before that bet comes to you. He just met Branson in the in the clubhouse. He's going to take a ride on Virgin Galactic. Oh,

I'm going to open AI guys. Everybody's coming through. They're saying Ludwig's performance at the 2022 John Deere should have counted. I'm going to a lot of cool people out here this week. I was on the bad side of the draw. I don't regret anything. Any final hamster, Dams? No, who gives a sh- I mean, yeah, I just started. I just honestly, I took my dog for like a 45 minute walk and just

paused it and then just watch it, which sucks because then I can't really like keep up with our slack thread. But I'm like, and I'm skipping through playing through, it playing through is disgrace. I'd rather just go to commercial. So all the other results of your poll on the footer of the other day. It was 87.

I asked a simple question, what are your thoughts on the way NBC covers? Golf favorable or unfavorable? We had, I believe last time looked it was over 15,000 people voted on it. And 87% voted for unfavorable. So take from that what you could mean anything really. I mean, they don't know what how hard cameras work. They don't know.

They don't know what they're talking about. Well, I will say to this, I want to give a big shout out to the open.com. A lot of people don't care about this, but they made for media available to be able to watch the world feed and just be able to watch the golf without commercials. And part of the reason I get very, very, very frustrated with golf on television, one is I feel like we, one, we have an opportunity to be a voice for fans. Like I want people to enjoy watching golf.

Like that helps us. That helps the whole sport if golf is watchable on TV. But two, I find it hard to do my job at times like cover golf tournaments when I can't focus on it because there's so many commercials in my eyes go to the second screen and I can't, I would never want to watch it like without fast-forwarding the commercials, but I have to kind of do it live.

Blah blah blah. But anyways, got to watch the actual golf and what it could look like without like a enormous commercial load and I'll kind of know all the bullshit and blah blah blah. They got to pay for it and all that. But it was like very, very, it was great to be able to watch that online. And I watched some skies. A lot of people sent sky passwords over. Thank you so much. I would never, you know, I would never subvert the laws and the rules around that to use that.

But thanks for the offers. But it's just broken. It's gone. It's toast. It's not going to turn around anytime soon. I'm a broken man. I'm beaten. It's cool that you freeze getting involved. I enjoyed all the randoms that got involved.

But dude, what is this? It's all commercials the whole time. So yeah, welcome to our life. And you guys watch this. How about that guy that was like, yo, you guys, you need to talk about this more. You need to, you need to hold him accountable. I say, hey, man, you must be new here. So I took it.

I was hoping Randy or somebody would get mad. It's, well, no. Like I said, Sully, I am beyond mad. I was going to say, you think this is tough. Try watching an LPGA event and compounded by the fact we don't really even have stats. Like you want to talk about a degree of difficulty there. So I'm beyond mad. I'm like, I go from mad as LPGA to this and I'm like, oh my god, this is like so much better. But yeah, you don't need stats here. an eye test guy anyway. NBC and golf channel.

They just, it's just not great. It's a good spot to be in that our best hope is that maybe the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia swoops in to provide some commercial free golf. That's kind of, I think, what we're, that's been the most taken on. That's really been the most compelling case that I've heard from anyone adjacent to power. It's like, well, you know, maybe this, this could really change things. It's like, oh, that's a good, sick. That's cool adjacent to power. He's like, well, you know, maybe this could really change things. It's like, oh, that's a good sick. That's cool spot to be.

It's crazy how much it's flipped in the last few years where CBS was awful and it was like, ah, at least NBC is doing a good job. And now it's like, dude, I kind of dread NBC weekends. Like, it's just not, it's usually not gonna be very enjoyable. Well, and it's CBS took some, like, decided to take some pride in their, and revamped a lot of shit, a lot, right? And it's, I don't know if the time of commercial, in time spent in commercial is different, but I know it feels different, right? So like, that's all we really have. I don't care what the actual time is. I just feel like I want the watching it, the golf on TV to not be a chore.

And sometimes it definitely is, and that's unfortunate. And yeah, we say this pretty much every, you know, I'd say like 90% of them like my beef or our beef, if you'll let me speak on behalf of the group, is like with the bean counters at the top that have sold an enormous, enormous ad load, an unrelenting ad load on what it takes to properly cover a golf tournament, and it's not on

the decision making in the truck of what to cover. They're just squeezed at a level that it just, they have no chance. They're beaten before they show up every week. This is not on the broadcasters. They're not perfect either, but like that's just not where the beef lies. And I want every week. It's not changed. I wanted, I really wanted to like Zinger. And I really wanted him to do a good job. But he just doesn't add anything to the broadcast for me. That's a big thing with NBC. I don't feel like he does much to. He's the least of my, not the least, but he's not, he's not my problem. I did a triage.

Well, there are other big problems, but yeah, you know, Johnny Miller was fun. Yeah. Johnny was dramatic. Johnny made you feel the drama and I, I feel like Zinger reaches back for the fast, but he doesn't know what's there when he starts a sentence. And sometimes it goes weird places. And it, it, it doesn't always just vibe with the moment. But again, and that's just like, we're not even close like worrying about that part. Like, man, Randy, you don't even know what pressure is. You know

the booth, trying to pull a zinger. You, you ever sat in my seat, you know, you couldn't even spit, boy. And yeah, so all the producers that yell of us, like, you try to sit in the truck and like, no, dude, like, you guys are boned before the tournament even starts. It's the people above you that have put you in this spot that is ruined it. And yeah, I'm sure there's a ton we don't know about how the finances of Comcast work, but last I looked at their 10K, they made $5 billion last year. So sure, make it make sense to me why you need to run six commercial breaks in an hour. Like, it's just not going to be worth people's time.

So it's live. This is the only thing anybody watches anymore. So that's where they can get that good ad rates, probably. That's fine. Sell the company. You can't be making that much money off these repeat ads. Can't be. Or show us the finances. I'm happy to be proven wrong there. Show us the show. Show us your money. That's it. That's all I have. Anything else? Anything to be missed? No, shout out to Ben for running the live shows this week.

Thanks Ben. Ben pop in here and say hello. Show us your face. I'm here. I know he's so nervous. He can't even spit. I didn't mess up these graphics, man, but Ben is American pie. It's fireworks. He's an F-150s American man. Yeah, I just want to apologize to everybody for the week.

I can't help your break. It's my fault. And you're in a cathedral as well. Yeah, your mic is just booming. Ben's actually at the airport. He's flying to go pick up Todd. Yeah, Got some. Got some British reporters behind me. So I'm going to, I'm going to wear that one for a while.

Well, good stuff this week, guys. That was solid. I best of luck this week, my man. Sure hope it's this week. Thanks to you guys for allowing me on your show. I was I'm sure hope it's this week. Thanks to you guys for allowing me on your show. I was greatly tuned in the whole week, and I was dying to get some takes in. I appreciate you working with my schedule as well. And I really fun. It's been awesome.

We want to thank High Noon for, and we're not done with these live shows for the rest of the year, but the big focus was around the biggest events of the year, the majors, and these were a blast to do. They're supportive of our show, as help make these possible and help give a lot of content and the listeners and all the people that tune in and send comments and send pictures of their high-noons and all the stuff like, all makes it work and we greatly appreciate that and we appreciate them and it's been a lot of fun. So I can't believe we're nine months ago.

Yeah, so I just want to go through the screen here and shaky. You're going to be a father, man. Don't worry about this NBC stuff. You're going to be a father. I'm glad to not be worried about that for some time. Yeah, you may not hear from me for a little while, which I'm very much OK with. But so I am sorry that we have. If you'll allow, we have the Evion on speaking of the LPGA major

week over there, we are not going to do our live shows because we do not really recognize it as a major. Now, we will, certain people win. We will retroactively recognize it for sure, which is in the playoffs. That's within our right. Correct. But we'll be back. Women's open early early August. Walton Heath outside London will be on site. We'll do live shows there. And then of course, Soulheim, Ryder Cup and the Fall. And then I think a few other live shows sprinkled in FedEx Cup,

of course, like word, yeah. Excel's making us do them for the FedEx. So enjoy it, fellas. That was a blast. Again, thanks everyone for tuning in. We'll be back. We'll have pods, regularly scheduled pods in the coming weeks, but be a little wild to rely.

But thank you all for tuning in. We'll see you next time. Cheers. Bangalong! Be the right club today. Yes! Yeah! Yeah!

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