No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 746: Ryder Cup Pairings Preview

Episode Date: September 28, 2023

Pairings are out for the first session of the 2023 Ryder Cup, and we break down each match, each grouping, what we think happens in the afternoon, our reaction from seeing Marco Simone on Thursday, an...d try to contain our excitement for the best event of the year. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 That's better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most. here. Hello, Pie Band. Hello, guys. Happy to be with you. Happy to be in Italy. Happy to be at this table. Happy to get this fucking thing going. Let's go. Let's go. I've never had to hold DJ back, like I have right before the show. KVV is here to break some normalcy and some journalistic integrity of the show. Hello, Kevin. Hello, so the last time you and I recorded a podcast in Europe, we sat knee to knee and you pulled up the voice memo app on your phone. It was real intimate experience and our flat in England. So this is real glow up for us. And I think it's really France.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Yes, France. Yeah. Okay. I was going to say I don't think we did any of the bell-free losses, but that's for a future podcast of ours. The no-bang-up live shows of course brought to you by our friends at high noon. I do hate to report. We do not have high noon here in Italy. We're close. We're just good as we could. Our guy Cody, he's got it in the shot if we have, when he, when he's going to pop in, of course, there's a lot on that. He's got it here, but you know, you can enjoy high new tequila. If you are a tequila lover, if you were never satisfied with malt based hard, seltzer offings, you're going to love the brand new high new tequila seltzer. It's available nationwide now made with real tequila, real juice. It's got a clean finish because it's made with that real blanco tequila.
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Starting point is 00:02:17 Dej, what are you so buzzing about, man? You could not wait to get this show started. I don't know what it was. You know what? I've been very fortunate. I've worked in golf for a decade plus now. I've done a lot of things. I've been to a lot. I've been to a lot of tournaments. One thing on my list, European Ryder Cup have never done it. Today was the first day I've ever been on site at a European Ryder Cup. The only Ryder Cup I've ever been to was last year or two
Starting point is 00:02:39 years ago, it was something straights, which I obviously liked. I've moved to Wisconsin, but be that as it May bad rhetoric. Energy wasn't very high, not good. And I was walking around that whole week kind of being like, man, solid really loves this thing, but I don't know if I really see it. Being out there today was very much an icy moment. I was getting goosebumps here in the cheers.
Starting point is 00:02:58 I was like, I was not familiar with your game situation. Truly. Truly. The golf course we're gonna get to it, but looks like a completely different golf course than the one that we played in May. I think there's going to be a ton of birdies. I think there's going to be a ton of just X's blowups in your pocket, holes.
Starting point is 00:03:14 And I don't know, man, great teams, really good pairings. It's just all is kind of aligned. Good weather, good crowds, good everything. I think this is, you know what it really is, is like, so I've been sure to say Europe is one up. I think the game is one up right now. It's kind of, it's kind of where I'm at. But what I really was thinking about was like, man, it's been so, like the last year plus two years,
Starting point is 00:03:36 three years just been so cynical in the world of competitive golf, pro golf, and I don't know this year, like it feels like every week you're kind of talking yourself into you're kind of squinting at like well I guess this is kind of exciting right I mean how you know howveland he's winning the playoffs you know that's that's kind of cool right you know that's that's kind of cool and then being out there today is just like no every square inch of this is fucking awesome and I cannot wait to get it going hard so I'm ready I'm ready JD JD
Starting point is 00:04:01 I cannot wait to get it going. My heart is so full. I'm ready. I'm ready. JD, JD, JD, JD, JD. I don't know how the yours, you would fans would do your name, Chair. I don't know if we're in the nest, they really only have like three years,
Starting point is 00:04:13 but that's, there'll be no slander in the European cheering. That's the thing. It's great, it's great, it's simple. But if I will say, there was it, not once but twice, Ola Chants, while Zach Johnson was giving him speeches, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Giving his speech at the opening ceremonies. Wow. What do you think would have happened if there'd been a USH chance during Europe's Captain speech? I mean, they've been worse than the Brooklyn tragedy. Oh, way worse. Uh, yeah. There's going to be some, some people who have to have some me a
Starting point is 00:04:39 cop, may a copas in the Euro media here for this because this is on except it was classless. It was thugggest jingoism It was all the above. We're gonna reference it a hundred times But you've talked about other podcasts before the Bernard Gallagher his book where he was talking about you know So what George Bush was that which which one? It wore the shore the war by the shore I did a deep dive into that podcast and Bernard Gallagher wrote a book about it I don't really know why it's like a book of grievances. It's like an email, basically.
Starting point is 00:05:05 It was not- Please read. It was not meant to be read by anybody outside of Europe. I don't think it just bitches about the most petty stuff to not distribute. The hotel rooms weren't up to snuff, like every little thing possible that he could complain about.
Starting point is 00:05:19 And one of the things he complained about, some of it was very justified, but some of the stuff was way too granular. But one of the things was, yeah, George Bush spoke at the opening ceremonies, who was the setting president, and he wished the US team luck on the way to victory, which the country that he was leading. Yeah, I hope that that country wins the competition. Yeah, and Bernard Gallagher of the book said that just something, you just don't do that.
Starting point is 00:05:40 So, it's saying that I have 400 times today, probably. Every time there'd be a chance or something while somebody's trying to put you just don't do that. You just don't do that. You just don't do that. But yeah, I'd know where on if George was called himself a man of God, but we did see the man of God top-layed in last night as well, but maybe I runs on the green at Brooklyn. He calls himself a man of God. How are you feeling? I feel good.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I'm good. I've been doing around Rome a little bit. Just getting into sort of working media mode now, you know, that my my boss is an early word nice enough to let me and my wife spend a little honeymoon. We never got a honeymoon after we got married during Western Straits. Sorry. Talks about the tough stuff scheduling. So this was actually our honeymoon. So we got to start with a bounce around a little bit before the term. missing straights. Sorry. Tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, tows, t suggest that they might be as good of a player as Roy McAroy or how dare anyone suggests that they might be a little more mentally sharp than your
Starting point is 00:06:47 nose. You just don't do that. You just don't do that. Just don't do that. So how are you feeling, man? I'm very, so we planned this a little better than we did with Stray. It's something we got there way too early last year. This was one of our Rory at Augusta. Yeah. I'm just not even thinking about it. You know, just treating it like any other tournament. Showed up hungover as well as you said. It's always juggling. He's doing crosswear. Is he's just not thinking about it?
Starting point is 00:07:09 We went to the Ryder Cup Gallows. Ryder Cup is at this week. I think there's some photos of that. If Cody has access to those. But I spent a couple hours to the course today. I was very much like I'm ready to go. Okay, let's go back home. There's not much to see or do during the practice rounds.
Starting point is 00:07:23 And so I've got peak energy. I'm ready to go. Okay, let's go back home. I don't there's not much to see or do during the practice rounds and So I've got peak energy. I'm ready to roll into tomorrow. There was a genuine buzz That's that's us trying to do the Kevin James meme which DJ did not get that I was like yeah, this thing's gonna last another Like two days. I'm not doing this but it's the best meme I've ever seen. I think it was historical record you Do this fucking mockery historical record you to use. Yeah, I caught up in the moment. Like, dude, it's fucking macarena. Macarena is still big, though.
Starting point is 00:07:49 But I feel very, very excited, little, some surprises in the opening pairings. But the buzz on the ground is just phenomenal. And I threw some major, major cold water all over this venue and all over this event going into it. Will you apologize? I will semi-apologize on the front end. will, I will semi-apologize on the front. Wow.
Starting point is 00:08:07 I will semi-apologize. Breaking news here. Your honor, the public defender will seed the rest of his time. All right. You know, one of the, one of the just absolute biggest courtroom victories in the history of the world with this heavyweight white shoe legal team coming back around. You're already twisting this. You're already twisting it.
Starting point is 00:08:24 So what was your complaint upfront and what changed? A lot of complaints upfront. So we played it two days after the Italian open. And so the goal was like, all right, I don't want to see this course in shape that's dissimilar to like a tournament. I want to see it as close to tournament shape as possible. And I was stunned that they had just played the Italian open on this course because the rough was unlike anything I'd ever seen.
Starting point is 00:08:46 There was just like nowhere for fans to stand. It was just a, you know, five yards off the fairway. You might lose a golf ball. We lost plenty of them, five yards off the fairway on top of being a not very good design, well design golf course. Like it's just narrow fairways, crazy undulations up to the greens, greens with really weird runoffs, just not a lot of strategy to it, it's an execution only golf course. So combine that with the conditioning and the rough that we saw, I was quite worried about this event. I thought it's not really
Starting point is 00:09:12 worthy of holding it. They've done an incredible job with the staging, like all of the signage, all of the bleachers, all the hospitality, like all of the viewpoints, they've shaved down all of the very, very thick rough that I was like, where are people going to stand? Well, it's on top of where this thick rough used to be. It's awesome. Like, it all makes sense now. Remember it's in the 90s where there was like 14 movies where the Dorky Girl like takes off her glasses and everyone's like, whoa, that was what that was walking into the golf course today.
Starting point is 00:09:40 It's like, what hole is this? Shout out to really cook. Yeah. It was not familiar with your game. Mark or Coach Simone had a glow up. They had a total glow up between May to now. And I think it's not the age in where I can be able to take some solace in that. Perhaps I was not a good fit for this course.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Probably not. I doubt he sees it that way. But again, I want to be very clear. There's still some extremely stinky holes out there. That does not change the third hole, 14, 15. I mean, eight, nine, eight. There's plenty of holes out there that are just be very clear. There's still some extremely stinky holes out there. That does not change the third hole 14 15 I mean eight Nine it there's plenty of holes out there that are just not very good But there's also some that are going to be really really fun to watch
Starting point is 00:10:11 Especially because the environment's like I've been this my fifth rider cup haven't been to anything I haven't seen a hill like we saw in 17 that surrounding that green I mean there's gonna be there's a lot of like stadium golf aspects to it Right like big big gradual sweeping hills that are just gonna be a lot of stadium golf aspects to it. Like big, big gradual sweeping hills that are just gonna be packed to the gills with people. I mean, one of the biggest takeaways from people that go to Ryder cups is like, dude, you can't see anything and there's no vantage points.
Starting point is 00:10:33 There's not enough golf being played out there. I mean, TPC Marcus Abonet. There are vantage points out there. 16, a ton, 17, a ton, 15's gonna have some really good viewing. I mean, there's a lot of places to watch golf, and man, it just, it does hit different. I mean, listen, I'm a huge fan of this event, and I was adamant at Wyslick Straits,
Starting point is 00:10:51 and this was not the atmosphere. Going into it, I said, this is the wrong place to have. Un-un-believeable photos, unbelievable, like images, but man, when the lake is cutting off an entire half of the golf course, like that's gonna kill, like it sounds so dumb, but like, that's gonna kill the audio, right? Like the cheers just going around,
Starting point is 00:11:08 it's like man, they kinda are just gonna drift off into this big open space. My friend Jamie Weirson, that was worth it, at least a touchdown for the Americans. If the Euro fans are able to come, it's six or seven more points. The Euro's gonna work. They would have got within your shot,
Starting point is 00:11:22 but they'd feel golf at least. Unfair advantage. So, yeah, I think putting it back into your atmosphere puts them up to Nill, right? Yeah, I think put them up. Well, in that press conference that Shane Ryan referenced in our last party, that's that's a point. That's three.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I think this is going to be at least two or three. Europe's up a bunch. I'm sure by the time we finish this pod, they'll have dropped another banger video. That'll put them up another point. But no, it, I don't know, the European fans are so freaking good at just like welcoming their players to the range and getting them excited, get a big smile out of them. And the first C atmosphere today for the European team was awesome. I'm freaking
Starting point is 00:11:57 practice rap. Like junior writer. Yeah. The atmosphere is like pretty, pretty electric. I think, here's my taking the junior writer cup. Those kids should, these kids, I'm all for it, but they should have to face hard questions from the media. It's like we should get to grill this. You have to go in the trap draw with trot. Listen, you guys saw some TikToks that you posted about your captain being sort of an incompetent, having no plan, you know. So we could just comment on why did you choose that song? That takes us really disappointed. So Again, I will apologize for not giving Marcos Simone enough time or I guess judging it too early. That's big of you.
Starting point is 00:12:31 That's all, that's all. The rough is still a factor. It's still like weird, not really golf grass. And then ball start still going to bury in it. It's not typical, I don't know, like northern blue grass or anything you'd see in the Midwest. And it's not permute. It's mostly like St. Augustine, if anybody knows what that grass is like,
Starting point is 00:12:47 which is not really golf grass. So it's still weird, especially with how much there's elevation changes between the fairways and the greens and with how narrow the fairways are. Like all that, I'm still way out on. But the word on the street is the Europeans when they showed up for their practice round, we're like, yo, this is not it.
Starting point is 00:13:02 And they shaved the rough down at that point. There's some reports going around that it's graduated unlike with golf national, the golf national was graduated rough as well. And there is still graduated rough out there. But I don't know, it's just a picture in totally different competition than what we walked up when we walked off that course in May. Yeah. That was a tough scene. I know you're public defender, but you're with me. That was a tough scene. That was a tough scene. But you know, we were not trying that day. We were trying the writer.
Starting point is 00:13:29 I was trying to convince 12 of my peers to give the writer a cup of chance and give Margot Simone a chance. You have five months for surprise evidence. Exactly. You didn't have to declare it in discovery for some reason the judge allowed it. And all of a sudden, banger.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Exactly. The jury was like, ooh. Oh. It dropped it in their lap. Anything else you guys want to get into pairings? I'm sure people are excited to get into pairings, but anything else will be noted from the course that could factor in. I was just surprised.
Starting point is 00:13:59 I mean, this is my first time to it, how much it was literally in the middle of farmland. Like just nothing to be said for in terms of, you know. Which also speaking to when we were in May, the roads are different. They've paved new roads out there. I mean, it was kind of like one way in, one way out, and now there's four lane wide roads going to and from the golf course, which is totally different. And I will say, I, you're going to hear people talk about this, and I think it is a factor
Starting point is 00:14:20 again. This is the shuttle. The shuttle. The time is a concept here. It's kind of like like the theory, right? It's like in theory, the time is three o'clock, which is great at dinner. It's great when they don't rush you. Yeah. They're bringing more wine. Not so great when you're trying to run a golf tournament and like, you know, the shuttles were, they were like, stop running yesterday because the drivers like, we're good. We're good.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Yeah, we're just kind of sick. I think it's going to be a dead positive. But as we get into pairings, this is going to play a role, I think, and it's a really hilly golf course. You've heard a lot about that. But dude, it is hot. I get really hot out there. In the 80s, upper 80s going to be
Starting point is 00:14:57 scheduled for every day. And when that sun hits even right around noon, it starts getting really hot. Do you think that factors into whether or not the guys are going to go five sessions? OK, not a professional athlete. I think it might affect. It's certainly a factor, but I don't think it's going to affect it.
Starting point is 00:15:15 I don't see a world could be totally wrong. And maybe they go up big early, but I don't see a world on the European side where hovelin, rom, and or Rory, like those three guys like, man, that seems like they're going to have to go five. It seems like Zach has an opposite right totally approach, though. So he's going to bank on the fact that though it's like fresh tires. Horses in the back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I was talking to my friend Carlos signs about that. Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen. What before you guys get going? First of all, KVV, I need you to talk directly in the mic or juice them on the board. We got juice all the way. Weeds, everything speaking in the mic. Second of all, to make this as fair and balanced as this you'll possibly can, I had to do something.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Oh no. Oh god. You have a motivational video. I know. I know. I know it's a team Europe video. I have a motivational video. I know. I know. I know that the team Europe video. I have a feeling I know what's about to come playing for your country. I have a feeling he's fine. Hey, miss we got this was going so well. We can't tell me. It's the epitome of nobody. T.C. I'm entering the live show.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Cody was saying people were getting frustrated. They're getting fed up with this jingoistic thugishness. You know, I got all the guys for that. What happened in the opening ceremony? T.C. That was that was thugish. You don't do that. I got some do that. I got some notes from them.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Try them. I got some notes from them. Try them. I got some notes from European family. They said they had to turn off the Tuesday podcasts because it was so one sided. We've got Sally now, now saying how great Marcos Simone is, listen, Sally, that was all part of the plan, my man. We're playing chess out there. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:17:04 This is what happens when we do a live T.C. They just can't stand it. I don't know what's going on. Are we back? Are we back? Yeah, we are. We are. We talked about it. I think that was a great point. Whatever you said, Trot. That was forced to be a dog. Yeah. Rip it out. Sorry. Your European family was saying. rip it out the car. Sorry, your European family was saying. They were saying that they'd turn off the podcast after about 25 minutes on Tuesday because it was so one sided. Now we've got Sali ranting and raving about how great the venue is after all he did was
Starting point is 00:17:37 denigrate it for the last three months. The space is yours. What did we miss about Team Europe? We really need to do more rehashing of past things said with your GC on Radar Cup stuff. That's what people want to hear. Thank you for- I'm rehashing stuff you said like 20 minutes ago, man.
Starting point is 00:17:54 You know? All right, let's move on. What are we missing about Team Europe? Please, the floor is yours. Fill it in. I think I'm so stoked. Let's talk about the match. I think there's sex, man.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Let's talk about the matches, man. I mean, LD's playing chess out there. Playing chess. Crazy. Nice. We got, what are we going to do? You're setting out ramen hat in first. How do you feel about that?
Starting point is 00:18:16 I love it. It's tone setter. Big tone setter right there versus Sheffler and Burns, the buddy system on full display. Right there. They got the fast pass, the Disney fast pass to the front of the line. Body system, I work in Europe though, TC. That's true.
Starting point is 00:18:33 You can't discount the fact that the body system is huge in Europe. Yeah, you think Italy is ignored the body system over the years? I think the shuttle system works. That's like, they have brothers and captains. What do you expect from each of them? I think the shuttle system works. That's like, they have two brothers. It's captains. What do you expect from these people? Uh, the shuttle, yeah, we can maybe put that behind the paywall, but the shuttles are tough.
Starting point is 00:18:52 But, you know, it, it, talk about something that's just outside your control. You know, we're just, we're, we're rolled with it. We, we have the benefit of good time zones in terms of getting back here, when getting back to doing shows. But listen, no one wants to hear about our commute. But let's, let's talk about the ROM hat and match up. I talk into some people who talk to some people. I think like the chemistry between these two
Starting point is 00:19:12 is really fun in that what we heard was basically, I think these guys love giggling about the other one getting really riled up, which is something that is really delightful to me. I think like Hatten thrown clubs or whatever, it's almost like loosening ROM up to be like, ah, that's like, that's pretty fun. And then ROM does the same thing,
Starting point is 00:19:29 it hadn't chuckled at him. So like, I weirdly think those two, like our guests, they're super combustible. But in a way, like might almost just like even each other out. I love that pairing, I think it's really fun. Hadn't made a great point of it, why doesn't ROM swear in Spanish?
Starting point is 00:19:43 I know, he can get away with it. Just absolutely dropping nuclear F-bombs. He had made a great point of it. Why doesn't Ron swear in Spanish? I know. He can get a slug. Just absolutely dropping nuclear F-babs. You'd think that that would, you know, he would want to go and finish, but no. I feel like they're both guys that vented out, right? They get it out and then they move on to the next hole. Hadden had a great pressure.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yeah, he hadn't totally, he totally moves on and doesn't do it again on the very next shot at all. Like he totally, he puts it behind him and we just never hear it again. If he didn't do it again on the very next shot at all. Like he totally let's he puts it behind him and we just never hear it. And that's if he didn't get it out though, he would he would explode on a rules official or a T marker or somebody else, which will leave that to Ron, which I think that's what I'm saying. They balance each other out.
Starting point is 00:20:18 And then on the US side, Scotty and and Burns, I think was a, you know, pretty natural pairing. I think everybody kind of saw that one. Saw that one coming quietly. I don't know that like I should say quietly, you know, pretty natural pairing. I think everybody kind of saw that one coming quietly. I don't know that, like, I should say quietly because I haven't read anything. So maybe people are very well talking about this. But Scotty working with Phil Kenyon,
Starting point is 00:20:33 starting at the tour championship, I think is a really fun thing. We haven't seen him play that much golf. Like he might have, might have figured something out. Well, honestly, if he got 5% better, like, what's that worth five points? If I may say two things you don't want to see, like on a Wednesday, the P got 5% better, what's that worth? Five points. If I may say two things you don't want to see,
Starting point is 00:20:48 like on a Wednesday, the PGA Tour event, when you stroll the driving range, you don't want to see somebody grinding it 430 right before the tournament starts, like that, you just cross that guy off the list. Walking around after the prex round, I saw one Scotty Sheffler working with his putting with Phil Kenyon yet again on Wednesday afternoon,
Starting point is 00:21:04 I saw San Burns on the range. So listen, maybe not the best signs to see that. I played nine holes today. They're probably trying to avoid another gala or something. I was just, you know, probably trying to stay the golf board. Um, not surprised to see this one go out first. Um, I'm guessing Sheffler is odds. He would hit off the odds if we want his iron play on most of the part threes and, yeah, Sam Burns would be more of the putter, which I think is more of the events in theory. But I mean, let's, Ron was incredible with Sergio in 2021. Now he's, I think he's even upgraded the partnership.
Starting point is 00:21:34 I mean, Sergio played a very good specific role in 2021, but Hatton can put a whole hell of a lot better than Sergio can. Really tough team. I'm not surprised to see Europe kind of do some chip pushing in this kind of first session and say, you know, afternoons getting a lot more interesting, I think, for Europe. They're trying to come out really strong. And do you have any any word to see on what you think is going to have a big shot Bob? I don't yet. I've heard that the early returns from him out on the range on the course, not good.
Starting point is 00:22:07 But, you know, it could be a Carolina headwall situation, right? Where we truly have heart in the back, ready to rock. We just got to give him a couple more days to get ready. So what do we like in this match? It's tough not to like Europe in that one. Ramen hadn't, yeah. I'm going to go, I'm going to go USA. like in this match. It's tough not to like Europe in that one. Robin Hatton. Yeah. I'm going to go, I'm going to go USA. I'm going to go Scotty and Sam. I think Scotty's going to, you know, ball out in a big way.
Starting point is 00:22:32 DJ, that makes me feel even better. You've been wishy washed in your picks all week, saying one thing, probably saying another thing privately. Oh, come on. That's unfair. That's untruthful. Kevin, first match, who you taking? I'm going to take here. Speak up. Speak up. I think I'm gonna take Europe. I think that leaving actually, I know, I know, I know, I think they're gonna go down. Actually Europe's gonna go down early because they're gonna come out too hot, too hyped up, then they're gonna settle in, then over time, Rahm is gonna go bonkers on the back nine and
Starting point is 00:23:07 win like four straight holes for them. And that's gonna be that. I know this is not the content anybody wants to hear, but I've never, I could absolutely see Europe winning 4-0 in the morning and I can see US going totally. I have not thought what makes it so fun. What's good about that? I know, I'm so hyped.
Starting point is 00:23:20 There was not, I did not feel like there was a ton of mystery at Whistling Straits. There was, there was a fair amount of mystery going into France. And if anything, I did not feel like there was a ton of mystery at Wistling Straits. There was, there was a fair amount of mystery going into France. And if anything, I thought the US would do better than they did, obviously, and it did not. But I would be stunned by absolutely nothing. Like, absolutely nothing would surprise me at this point.
Starting point is 00:23:34 It's so weird to me still how quickly it flipped in France. Like, you know, three one for session, everyone thinks that Europe is on tilt and it was like, oh, fuck. Like, this was not going the way that I thought it would in the afternoon. So it was over. Anything that's going to happen earlier this year where we've got the ForSums matches out in the morning, this time it's Saturday afternoon. I think early momentum and then keep it rolling.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I don't think this team is going to get too high on their own supply and get too hyped. I really don't. I think they're like, it's interesting, right? Like you could have put, I was thinking about it today. I mean, I think obviously the Rory, Tommy group would have been the one that just would get people frothing like the most. And I think it's good to not put that one out first if you're here. You know, because you put that team out and they get beat or something that it just takes a ton of wind out of the sales. We'll get into all the matches, but if I'm looking at the whole, the slate is a whole, I think it's pretty important for you're up to win this opening morning session because I think if they're planning to run everyone play everyone tomorrow, I do not see a way where the it does not line up very well for the US to close
Starting point is 00:24:40 the day. Are they planning on playing everyone tomorrow? Is that a thing? I would think everybody in the U.S. plays for sure. Honestly, I think the U.S. will definitely play everyone. I don't know about Europe, and I don't have anything to back this up, just total gut feel. It wouldn't surprise me if McIntyre didn't play until singles. I know that has not happened since 99,
Starting point is 00:25:01 but I feel like he's coming in play in that poorly. It's tough. Could very well eat my words on 99, but I feel like he's coming in playing that poorly. It's all good very well. You my words on that. But I yeah, God, that's going to go so well. If he comes out and goes like three and oh, I just have to totally find out. If he comes out and goes three and oh, again, it shows how nothing in this event is predictable. I think we're going to say, Sally had a really good idea. TC, I know you're going to love this, but I think maybe when we're walking around tonight, we're gonna buy a fedora. Yes, I think whoever's takes are the worst as a whole
Starting point is 00:25:30 We're just gonna have to wear the fedora on the white show of misery So TC I don't know if you can overnight us one of yours Yeah, or if we should just buy one over here or whatever you think is it's easier if the US is down six two Going into the Mara. I'll wear it for the whole show. Right? I mean, that's that's my, but I think you, T.C. is going to have to do the same. I think if, uh, if Europe's down six, guys are bad, bad guys. All right. Next match, second match. Um, I don't have it in front of me. There's Max. Oh gosh. This is the big dog. Max, hola and Brian Harmon against Victor, Hovlin and Lou Vig Albecht. I don't know. I've heard it for 35 different ways.
Starting point is 00:26:05 All bra. Alba air. This is such a fantastic matchup. I think Harmon, I can't wait to watch Harmon play alternate shot. I think Max is a great counterbalance to him. And then, yeah, then you got the two skin and avians that are here to fuck shit up, guys. It's talking to Max a little bit out there today. I think him and Brian had a really, really good time at the practice session. I think they played four ball. So I was a little surprised to see them go out
Starting point is 00:26:34 and four sums together. I know we were talking about Harmon seems like he would be a really good four ball guy. I mean, I think he'd be good in both formats. I said that on the preview pod. I think he's gonna ball out. I bet today they'd be ready to lean on him a lot. I think so. Well, I think that's what we said it on Tuesday, but like I think he can hit driver everywhere. He's going to be
Starting point is 00:26:50 short of all the hazards. He obviously puts the lights out. I think he's just going to be very, very steady, right? I mean, I don't think he's going to be super wayward off the tee. You know, I think it as long as he's in play, he's going to be hitting first into a lot of greens. If he starts sticking it, I mean, I don't know, man, we saw it getting out in the open field at the open. Like he looked very, very, very comfortable. My prediction at the end of the day, tomorrow is a TC is going to be all,
Starting point is 00:27:13 it's going to go all-benhogue and talk about how putting is unfair, putting is not fairly valued, that you know, should be about ball strikers, should be about driving, that it's just, it's at the disgrace how much putting is valued in the game. No KVV. I'm probably going to be the vision about pace of play with that. That's true. That's true. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, and, and, uh, Harmon together. That's, that's tough. I think I think you turn on max like this. It's, uh, it's, uh, it's, it's, it's the aim point
Starting point is 00:27:39 in issue, man. People are talking about here. I'm not, I'm not turning over. I'm not turning on him at all. He's one of my favorite players on Earth. I just, he's my guy. I just, you know, this is a team competition. You know, you're all famous. He's coming for my legs. I'm coming for his legs. I'm a cool guy.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Who's everybody's coming for Brooks's legs? Fanta going to his knees. Do you see how do you think, glad they go handle the pressure? I don't think it's gonna face in one minute. I wonder what he's gonna say here. I just wanna get it on record. Okay, so he's gonna go say.
Starting point is 00:28:07 I mean, look at his whole record. Like it's not, like there's been no semblance of any time it went worth it. Just all these different events. It's been no semblance of him being shook at all by the bright lights. And I think one of the... And I think one of the...
Starting point is 00:28:22 And I think one of the... And I think one of the great partner for him. One of the things I think back on all the time is when so we were at barsebeck Last summer doing our tour saw set up and Ludwig joined us and we were having lunch afterwards And I forget how it came up or whatever but the quote was something like and he's like thinking about how to phrase it He's like, yeah, I don't know how to say it. I just like I just like don't ever get like nervous Like do you guys have that like I just I don't know like I just I was like never't ever get nervous.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Like do you guys have that? Like I just, I don't know. I was just like never anxious or like nervous. I was like, oh, sure. Yeah, no, save totally, man. That's great. I was talking to Jack Clark, who is the fiance of our young hitter, Matt on Sagsstrom,
Starting point is 00:29:00 who caddies for Ludwig now, which first of all was like, yeah, did you like picture this? He's like, yeah, when I took the job two months ago, no, didn't really see this coming. Why are you yelling at him, TC? He didn't see this coming. It's a caddy. That's true. That's true. TC, you need to get on to him about that. But he was telling me a story about when they, they want to cron and, you know, they're getting to that back nine and Tron remind me what it, Ludwig, Bertie, like 13 through 18 or something like
Starting point is 00:29:24 that or 12 through 17. Yeah. He had five or six in a row. And I think he had one part I mean, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, honestly, man, he's like, we talked to each other like once. And all that we saw was like, we looked at the leaderboard, we saw that we were tied. And Jack was like, yeah, I think it's, I think it's time to go. A lot of things like, yeah, I think it's time to go to. And then he brings next five. He's like, that's all we, that's always said. Like, he's gonna be fine. You know what? I'll say, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Every single player who has talked a lot of shit and not not the boy weeks talking shit, but has said like, oh, I'm not going to be phased by this has said like I when I pulled the club back, it was heavier than I've ever felt a club in my entire life. I felt like it was King, Roy McRoy truly like Ludwig would be absolutely blessed to have Roy McRoy's career at this point or block or windy. Or windie. Yeah. And when Rory like pulled back his club, club he said I eat the first time after sort of being like I won't be faced
Starting point is 00:30:30 But this was completely overwhelmed by the motion of it. So we'll say we'll say I just want on the record Ludwig said none of that. That was TC that was not Not really at all. So you know KVV put an accusations on Ludwig there That was not him that came from TC you know, KVB put in accusations on Ludwig there. That was not him that came from TC. God, just want that notice. None of this was in the context of the Ryder Cup either. Like it, like, it's not like he's sitting there talking shit,
Starting point is 00:30:52 like Wyndham Clark has been talking shit all week. Oh, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, was pretty clear, my guy. What? Wait, please. Oh my god. Oh my god. Are you really gonna dial this out? He literally was like, I have the utmost respect for Rory. Would love to have his career. Oh my god, but like, I want to believe that I'm better than them.
Starting point is 00:31:14 That's the full context of it. Who is actually mad about that? I mean, who is better at the ocean? I was told he was talking to you. And then he was saying that everybody was gonna be exhausted coming off the European side and all that. So, they can buy people. Oh, it's in more material for us.
Starting point is 00:31:26 I won European player has intimated it as much already to someone else and said, what is big shop? It's a big shop. Bob played like seven weeks in a row. Was that working out? Let's listen. We got to put big shop Bob off. It kind of into his own category.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Here's what I do want to say about Levy. We were talking about on the shuttle ride home. There's something that happens with these young guys when they come out and they don't have scar tissue and they don't have a lot. Like they, you see it when like a lot of these guys just like catapult up the world rankings immediately after college.
Starting point is 00:31:58 And even like when they're in college sometimes, you know, you start like Michael Thorbeer and Sid where it's just like, yeah, I don't know. I'll just like almost win a tour of it. Sure. Like, is that a bit, I'm here? Like, is that what we're supposed to do? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:09 I think that's what I love so much about like putting Ludwig with Hoveland, putting him out early, just no dancing around like, oh, he's going to have to ease into it or he's going to have to really learn his way and, you know, look around and watch the morning session. Like, no, man, just fuck throw him in there. I love it. Ryder Cup is a young man's game. It has been for quite some time.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Rookie's do way better than this than everyone, like, understands. The experience means almost nothing in this event. It does not translate to more success. So it's this uncharted territory for some of this. Never played a major to be teeing it up in a Ryder Cup. It's outrageous, but it's really, really hard to see how he's going to handle it. But I think it's a great pairing with Victor Victor. Victor's got some monkeys to get off his back in terms of the rider cup.
Starting point is 00:32:52 He had a very poor rider cup. It was interesting. Straight some, don't think you got more pairings. I know it didn't work out great, but it's something you think about when you go into the next one. He also it's worth mentioning almost became a member of the brotherhood. Almost. He made an ace on the par four fifth was with a second ball
Starting point is 00:33:09 But still I would say quality golf shot where we're monitoring the situation about his membership into brotherhood Were you saying that Jay Haas was not a great pick when he was 50 years old? You're not on record about that. I'd never heard I don't think he did that well I don't think I teed to that well I might look that up who who we going with say that. I don't think he did that well. I don't think I teed that well. I might look that up. Who who we going with? Raymond Floyd was a good pick when he was two years old because Raymond Floyd is bad as well. Who we going with in this match? I I'm going with the Viby boys. I'm going Max and Brian in this one. I'm
Starting point is 00:33:40 going to go same. Yeah. Oh man. I'm gonna go half. I think it's gonna be halved. Okay. That's that's fence setting. It is. It is fence setting. That's what I truly don't know. I want it.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Do we need to do TCs or do you want to? Guys, I'm gonna shock you here. Whoa. I'm gonna go to have as well. It's really. I think this is gonna be the best. I like them all, man. And I think both teams are gonna come to play in this one.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Both teams play. I keep in notes on these. So what I have there, DJ, it's going to be a half TC is going to be a half solid team USA KVV team USA for match one. I had DJ team USA KVV team Europe, or a TC team Europe and Sali was Europe team Europe. Okay. You guys are ready. Match three. Match three is Shane Lowry and Sep Waka Strockaflaim up against Richard Flower and Colin Morakawa. First of all, Sali, it's it's it's Strockaflaka flame. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:45 That walker. It's not a lot of apologies. Appreciate the fact checking. That's an important part of knowing it was fact checking. Sally is turning into a dad in front of your very eyes. These rap guys, I can't keep up with them. They call it music. I don't I don't have a whole hell of a lot to say on this one.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Other than I feel like TC please, I would never want to be an unfair, jingoistic American. I don't know that people have talked about a couple things. Lowry has not been playing very good. Lowry's only played one rider cup. And I think people kind of for whatever reason, look at him as like this, this veteran savior of this, like, this European stalwart. I'm like, yeah, I'd,
Starting point is 00:35:27 if he plays great tomorrow, we'd love to see it. I think steps gonna play really good. But I, I don't know, I'm not feeling a ton of inspo. Wow. Team Europe on this one. Lower has not earned the benefit of doubt that some of the European lions have had. That's kind of what I'm thinking. That's kind of what I'm thinking. And, and granted, I think you could say the same thing about the, the American side here. I was just saying it's not like we're talking about, you know, the, like the guys with the two best records here, especially
Starting point is 00:35:52 for some wise, right? More Callos undefeated at, at, at, at, at, at, at, was extreme. So, you know, that he had a fantastic first rider cup, Ricky, not so much. Ricky, one of the guys I'm worried about on the US side, but going up against two guys that I would consider to be in like the eight to 12 range from Europe to the guys that frankly, I'm just not that worried about. I could obviously be proving quite wrong on that. But if I was a European fan, I'd be just worried about this part. I've been weirdly invested in struck and not having a great Ryder Cup. And I might as well double down on that one at this point. But I don't love this one for Europe. I
Starting point is 00:36:24 think more Kawa fits this golf course really, really, really well. And if they can get the balance right on, on holes and getting him hitting long iron shots, which is going to be plenty of, I like the US in this one. I'm going to, I'm going to go team Europe. I think SEP comes out strong, carries the day. I, for whatever reason, I'm just not feeling the US on on this one. I don't really know what it is, but I think steps going to be kind of a breakout star here. So I'm going to go. So I think that puts me one and a half, one and a half right now. I'm going to go flip. I'm going to say actually steps a double agent. And I think that the US is going to win this one.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Who said he looked like Kirby smarts that was really good. Do you see what you're picked? I'm going Lowry's Staka here. I think it's going to be a one plus one equals three situation for them. I think I'm buying on set, but I'm buying on Lowry, especially in Orsum's play. I think it's a good course for Ricky. If Ricky has this match, I want to know what's going on there. He's allergic to winning or losing. Truly, just no idea what to expect from Ricky.
Starting point is 00:37:25 I don't know why that is. Seven career halves, right? Or eight career halves, like in these five career halves. Five career halves, okay. Well, that was a save by me. It's wild how good these first, like these opening four matches are. I don't think I've ever, like it's just, it's all gas, man. I think if this one, the only thing I would have improved, I guess guess from a viewability standpoint is really weird to see JT and speak sit.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Well, it gets format which I'll get there, but I would have loved to see them in this spot instead. Final match Roy McKillroy against Tommy or and Tommy lad against Zander Shoffley and Patrick Cantley. This match is just okay for me. Zander Shoffley and Patrick Cantley. This match is just okay for me. I dream dramatic overstatement here. I think a path to victory for the US would start with like, if you win this match, the path to victory for the US looks a lot clearer than if you don't. I think if Rory and Tommy go out and lose this first match, oh shit. Yeah, it's a no shit loss.
Starting point is 00:38:23 That's a tough one where it's like, I don't know, there's a lot riding on that match. That's probably a little bit dramatic, but at a no shit loss. That's that's a that's a tough one where it's like I don't know. There's a lot riding on that match. That's probably a little bit dramatic but at the same time I feel like that's a really important match for them to win. Yeah. I love I love these guys in the anchor spot too for what I was saying about like getting people really really frothed. I love like this one boiling all day and and really like fans who've been out there since 5 30 waiting in line knowing that this is the last match going off. It's really really fun. T.C. how will you handle it emotionally if if can't lay like just absolutely like slow blaze everything. Lays the hammer is a shit out of you would just then Xander and Patrick do what they do. Yeah, I would that would be a tough that would be really tough. I don't think I'd be able to come back from that one at least for a few hours. This is kind of a referendum on your whole thing, T.C.
Starting point is 00:39:09 This is really... I know. This is a big, big spot for T.C. guys. I'm well aware of it, okay? You know, we've got Patrick, aka the hammer, can't lay. T.B.D. on if he goes hatless, he's bringing one hatless and all the photos, which we can talk uniforms here in a sec. But hopefully the European fans are all over him for the slow play for which he's improved upon. I'll give him credit there. But basically these two are you encouraging from the European.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Absolutely. You don't do that. You don't do that. You don't do that, TC. These two malcontents, these two inseparable malcontents. They probably have against the bachelor parties, though. The best the best that team Europe has to offer as far as Rory and just a glowing Tommy Fleetwood. So I'm stoked, man. And you know what, it's really, really generous and magnanimous
Starting point is 00:40:05 of Tommy to share Phil Kenyon with Scotty as well. So you know what? I forgot he helps Tommy with his potting. Am I change that first match? Actually, this is somebody rooting for the US. God, it's really hard to root for Zander. I know. I'm not even going to pretend to root for the US. That's really tough. That's really tough. Those are the four matches. You want to do odds real quick for these? No, who are you taking to this?
Starting point is 00:40:31 Yeah, who can pick? I think Xander and Kenley get it done. I think that's the best the US has to offer. My head's saying Xander and Kenley, but every other inch of me is saying Rory and Tommy. I got to go with Rory and Tommy in that one. I got to go with Xory and Tommy in that one. I gotta go with Santa Kelly. I think they have this weird, like, good energy
Starting point is 00:40:48 between them for Ryder Cup shit. And I think they just, they figured out how to feed off each other. I think that that's, that's key. Many people are saying that they didn't put them together in the, they were, they were sitting or standing apart from one another in the team photo. They posted, they did.
Starting point is 00:41:04 I saw some between about that. Yeah, I think it was at Tron Carter NLU. They didn't attend the practice session. They flew over separate from the team. All sorts of very, very, very discouraging signals from these two. It's disgusting. God, you could, you could learn a lot of goodwill by picking Zander and KLA here. T.C.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Yeah, what's your plan? Can't do it. Can't do it. Can't do it. Rory and Tommy jump out to an early lead and do not relinquish it. So what are our totals? I think I'm two and a half, one and a half Europe right now. I was three, one USA. I mean, for some Europe, which I feel great.
Starting point is 00:41:39 I feel great. That's where I was trying to get a head up. I was like, all right, what is this all going to add up to? Because Europe is definitely going to be leading. I think I was like, all right, what is this all going to add up to? Because Europe is definitely going to be leading. I think I was too, too. I can't remember. Maybe Cody can help. The odds, yeah, what do I have for us on these matches.
Starting point is 00:41:54 In the first matches, this is from Cursey Drafting Sportsbook. Scotty and San Burns are minus 110, Ramen Hat and are minus 120. This is the two-way winner. You can do the three-way winners and have a tie bet in there as well. But second match, Homa and Harmon are plus 110, Ludwig and Hovlin are minus 145. Woo!
Starting point is 00:42:15 Ludwig never played a major. It's just again, never played a major. That's wild. Well-endowed Rick and Colin Moorcawa are minus 150 against Lowering Stratka who are plus 110. And then Zander and Cantler minus 105, Rory and Fleetwood minus 130. That's the same.
Starting point is 00:42:36 There's some large thug as Jago is for the Javkigs. Well, the large Vig is for the large possibility of haps. You can do the three way. The three way betting would be a little bit different than that. But so favored in this are, holland and Ludwig are favored in their match. Ramen hadn't are barely favored.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Ricky and Moorakawa are favored and then Fleetwood and Rory are favored. So three, one Europe, if you go to the sky, with your boy. Yeah. All right. So we talk about JT and Jordan sitting kept the sitting like kept them not surprised. And JT and Jordan, I'm a bit surprised, I think, but I think it's also so let's break this down a little bit. So JT is going to play something tomorrow. You would think if they sit them all day tomorrow. That's shocking. Yeah. Right. Why did you take him if you were sitting in the pool?
Starting point is 00:43:25 What is your biggest big Bob McIntyre Caroline head wall? I just got to use the brain. Just slamming you to Levin Chela. Is that the first day? What's your philosophy on like the, so let's just say it's somebody who's kind of slightly out of form, right? Like JT, we don't really know. He played, played well in his last start.
Starting point is 00:43:43 He's kind of had like five weeks off. we don't look great on the range today. Looks great. Some some some big high rights. I'll go on on the range but don't forget the high at left and the high left is well. Oh that's right. I forgot about that. He's got it. He's got his work in it both way. What's your guys this philosophy because we talked a lot about like if in four ball like if you're not making birdies, like you're kind of an anchor. The more I think about JT, the more I'm like, well, making birdies hasn't really been the problem, right? It's been the straight triple or double or whatever.
Starting point is 00:44:13 So I am confident in him coming out and making a bunch of birdies in four ball, but it's still weird to not see him in four sets. My thinking was, I thought he was picked on this team to play this format with Jordan, right? I mean, because they didn't play all of their four ball matches together at Wishing Straits. They separated. Speed and Capca play together, JT and Cantley played together at Wishing Straits and Speed and JT played the both of the four sem sessions together.
Starting point is 00:44:37 So, and they played every match together at Quill Hollow last year. So this tells me a couple of factors here. First session doesn't have to be like a message sending thing. It's so like nobody's probably gonna play five, which is the other thing to mention. That's where I'm at here, right? So do you not wanna push your chips in with JT in the first session?
Starting point is 00:44:58 You wanna see how he plays in the afternoon on Friday and then if he plays well, are you putting him in speed out on Saturday? Probably. The horse is in the back situation. Could be. Again, this is where the modeling and the scenario building gets really, really boring in terms of, you know, whatever the odds would say of,
Starting point is 00:45:14 if we set this for some, that means you're more likely to blah, blah, blah. And I don't know exactly what the scenario plan would be, but I am surprised a little bit by this. I kind of thought Max and Morakow would play together based on nothing but gut, but it's a little bit by this. I kind of thought Max and Moore Cowell would play together based on nothing but gut, but so a little surprise to see that pairing in there instead of, yeah, of JT and speed. I was, what do I expect to see it?
Starting point is 00:45:34 Obviously, Zach was reading Twitter. He's just refreshing over and over. He was mad about the pick. God, I got to listen to the Lezidia's out here. They're so right and I'm so wrong. I should sit JD and maybe I should have you brought him. T.C., I just, solid you mentioned this in the car but I can't think about how how electric it would be if we have Lucas Glover walking to that first tee tomorrow. Amen brother. Where's good bring it Cody in here he want to Lucas Glover. I want to tell you're sick you're sitting the guy that you wanted to anyway it It's a long way to go, brother. A long way to go.
Starting point is 00:46:07 A lot of sessions to be played. Try and how we feel. And so we've got Rose, Hoi Garge, Big Shot Bob, and Fitsy on the bench. You like that? Yeah, I think that's the right thing. I think it'll be our CC. Oh, yeah. Well, no, I think, I think, Rory and I think you probably send three of those four
Starting point is 00:46:26 right back out for for for ball as well. Like you send. Harry and Fleetwood right back out. I think Ludwig and and Vic are going right back out. Like, you know, I'm cautiously optimistic for Ludwig. I'm just seeing this come across the wild wire, Dylan to chair, tweeted hard to overstate the buzz for Ludwig Aberg. Sorry, Ludwig Obaugh from from someone close to Team Europe. I think it's an
Starting point is 00:46:52 advantage that he hasn't really played with guys on the US side yet. I've never been so intimidated by a golfer in my life. Those guys are going to be in for a fucking shock. Wow, Europe's five up now. Five up, five up, because that tweet. I didn't really tell that. That is true. How rare do you have a guy that's just like, like kind of a total unknown? I mean, he's played in like,
Starting point is 00:47:14 you're not an old half a dozen who's not doing it to our fans. First day. Yeah, but they're all like John Deere and Rocket Mortgage and a lot of the stuff around him. All I'm saying is, yeah. Yeah, all I'm saying is, yeah. Yeah, all like like, all I'm saying is I think that that these,
Starting point is 00:47:29 these four sums, like I'm cautious, the optimistic for, for Ludwig in, in four sums, I think for four ball, like, I'm going to put the house on him for four ball, you know, I can understand why you said, well, to be fair, you lost the house already. Yeah, I believe, right. Uh, brock. Making. I was sold. I was sold. I was sold a bill of goods there. I don't understand why you said rose for.
Starting point is 00:47:55 He seems like a force. Absolutely. The only thing I could think is if they're really high on having him with fits. Yeah. For some reason, and that that's been fits his whole thing, right? It's like not playing his own ball. It's not, he's just been stuck in ForSums with kind of bad partners and has this like,
Starting point is 00:48:09 winless records. I would assume we're definitely, definitely, definitely gonna see him in four ball tomorrow afternoon. And maybe Rose was kind of the, they just randomly, like, had those guys stuck together. I don't know. So, T.C., if you think three teams from Europe go back out, then who sits all of day one for Europe,
Starting point is 00:48:24 then at least that would be Bob and Gregard and Oigard? So T.C., if you think three teams from Europe go back out, then who sits all of day one for Europe then? At least that would be Bob and Gregard and Gregard. I think they may bring Hoigard out and play him. I could see Hoigard, like I'm super good at birding. He wants to, right? Yeah, who they pair him with. I could definitely see Big Shot Bob sitting. I could even see, like I could see Hoigard and Fitzpatrick or Fitzpatrick and Rose
Starting point is 00:48:47 and then maybe they sit, sit Hoigard. I don't know. It'll be interesting. Maybe Hoigard plays, plays one session, you know, on Saturday. You sit at it. Sit, happen in the afternoon, maybe. Can you even do like, one thing that's interesting, I was talking to some, I mentioned this on the the preview pod to but having Rory Rory has been this kind of like babysitter of the of the new guys for a lot of years right like having them with with Thomas Peters and having with all these these kind of like rookies and I didn't know if we're gonna see that again this year and it's really cool to see him with like Tommy
Starting point is 00:49:19 Fleetwood who is you know maybe gets the second biggest cheer on on the team when they're announcing names I think that's a very different spot for Rory. And I wonder if you see someone like Ram or someone like, I mean, Hovelin obviously with Aberg, but I wonder if you see Ram play with Hoigard or you see Ram play with like one of these young guys in the afternoon. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:38 I'm really curious where the, like, what game they're playing now. I think they're pass playing chess. Like there's this whole like, I know that we know that you know that we know. So what are we gonna do? So I'm gonna flip up this pairing. I was surprised with what the US did in four ball
Starting point is 00:49:52 at Wysung Strait. So like I could see any number of things. I think listen, sitting here, if I'm even at the first session does not go great for the US. If you can pull JT's, Speed and Brooks Keppka and Wyndham Clark who won a major this year off the bench for the afternoon session, like you got to be feeling pretty good. And that's where it's like,
Starting point is 00:50:09 that's where I think this whole thing is going to come down to honestly, Rahm, Hovlin, and throw Ludwig in there and and Rory. Like those guys, it like have to play all really well. And they're have to play a lot of golf. And man, it's just that's going to be so. And I love it. The Ludwig hype might, might be too much for even me. But I think they're going to, I think they're going to rely on him a lot of golf. And man, it's just that's going to be so loving. The lot of me, my hype might be too much for even me, but I think
Starting point is 00:50:27 they're going to I think they're going to rely on him a lot. I think they're going to play him a lot. Like I think he has to play really, really well. He's going to play at least three team sessions, right? And I think Rom, Hovlin and Rory, do the try. I mean, do you try to send them all five is like the big question right now, Almost always in these things. If you are asking your top, like multiple of your top guys to go five sessions, it doesn't tend to go end up that well.
Starting point is 00:50:53 That's where like where you call it thuggish ginguism, if you want where some of my optimism for the US lies and like, I think there's a reason literally one guy from Europe in the history of this event has ever gone five a no. Yeah. We saw passing out gelato on the range. But see, which I saw, I mean, I guess some of it comes down to do you believe, I guess Luke said in his press that all that all 12 are going to play first day. So some of that comes back to do.
Starting point is 00:51:24 I miss that. I missed that. So, you know, it could be him playing four dimensional chess, kind of like he's, he's already been playing four dimensional chess with you. He already spooked you on all the setup stuff and all the rough and all that. Like I've been texting with a couple of guys in the Euro team today and they were, they were all laughing about it. They're like, yeah, of course you're laughing. Yeah, unfortunately. And they were they were all laughing about it. They're like, yeah, of course, they're laughing. They're laughing. Yeah, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:51:45 In a team, but we laugh. And that's all we got. It's so we got them so good. That's shit. I mean, they're like, of course, we didn't cut the rough down and we, and we totally messed with their heads and all that. It's, you know, you better. Oh, they just caught with their, like, they got caught red handed.
Starting point is 00:52:02 I mean, they, there's no chance that you us had any, would have been able to prepare this week with this new golf course. They got thrown in front of no chance. Like what a incredible rope. It don't pull by Europe. It would have been sick if Shane Ryan mentioned that on the preview, but a couple years ago when they really locked it like the course has to be locked on Sunday or whatever, it would be sick if that was no longer a thing. If they're out there, you can hear the mowers out there. And now I cut it down tonight. What if it was? Sorry, we're getting reports with their mowing. We got to get out there.
Starting point is 00:52:30 We're really, we got to figure we got the roles and pots. Man, I love this event so much. There's nothing else like it where you can sit here. We've got 18 preview podcasts I think for this thing. And we could probably go several more hours tonight. But yeah, we know a couple of things, couple of concerns on my end. I do wanna get out in front of this.
Starting point is 00:52:52 The Euro uniforms, at least the first few days, have been unadulterated ass. I got one of my favorite lines of the day where you're talking with Kyle Porter on the rage. I was like, what the fuck is up with all this? Like, burn orange. He's like, oh, that's like, that's a tribute to Sergio. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 00:53:11 It's like when they had the Sevy logos on the sleeves, you know, that's, they're keeping Sergio out there. They love that stupid burn orange TZ. It's all for you. Unbecoming. I'll say, yeah, I think we tweeted sort sort of like a good lock to the Eurowriters. The other, you know, Sergio Westwood, no such thing. Then that yet. So hopefully they'll step up. Do the right. The Polter's probably still trying to get on the team. I'm not being too late.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Trying to line up the captain's day. If Bob can't hit his driver, like, I never thought about that. Do you have to have your team locked? What do you mean? Like, what if they just switched a team? What was the deal? If they switched to player? Remember the Kewo one, the guy got in the car accident.
Starting point is 00:53:48 The might and they were like, man in the envelope. Yeah. So how it works, if you get injured during, and you can't play like your singles match, the other team has to put a guy, I don't forget when you do it. I don't know if that's changed over the years, but you put a man in the envelope, the might, that's who, if it was, you know, the US side or Europe, if there's's an injury on the other side the 12th guy has to sit and doesn't get to play singles So if you lost got on the chance to play because some other guy got injured that would seem entirely it was all that's to say guys like Rasmus could be there right now and they may be Rasmus in already
Starting point is 00:54:20 Parent but like what if they like Rasmus tonight., because like rassumous played really well last week. And nickel hasn't been playing great Makes you think right? I hope you'll do the right thing to see if you find out about the honorable thing It'll be a big journalist and actually tell us which toy guard is playing Loose toy guard You practice some real journalism in the soulheim now, so I hope we'll continue to move forward with that God people are still buzzing about the soul. I'm cup here to great job That's a whole other at DC
Starting point is 00:54:50 I haven't talked to you have a great job over there. You guys did awesome. It's fun really made us nothing My daughters were screaming crying over the result. They were they were so into it I was so proud of them for getting invested in it and some of that was just our we got the W You know, like. People are buzzing over here. So, do you have an official stance on that as we go into this rider cup and if there is a tie? Hell yeah, I've got an official stance on it.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I think if the US, if there's a tie, the US retains the cup, one team is celebrating and one team has the cup. And I think that was, you know, Rory said it in his press or the other day, he was saying like, hey And I think that was, you know, Rory said it in his presser the other day. He was saying like, Hey, I think back to Medina, when we got that 14th point, we were all celebrating. We were all psyched.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I think that's a, the retained thing is like, you got to come take it, man. So let's say the US and Europe tie this week, it's, and the US retains the cup, they should celebrate like they won. I think I will, I will will go on a limb and say that So I thought you cook up something more than that TC. I will disappoint it. We'll see DC I agree I never grind my feet out I grew that stance. I feel like it's like boxing you have have to take the tie from someone. You can't just like, Tiger had a three foot put at Medina
Starting point is 00:56:07 to like have the rider cup and nobody care. Like it was already over. Like it just, I'm with you. Like I think it, the better it's care. I remember a lot of people were pissed about the betting aspect of it. Tiger totally hit that putt. But I think if you could,
Starting point is 00:56:22 you could entertain the theory of like, if it's the tie goes to the road team There's such an enormous home field advantage now like a tie should go to the road team regardless of who holds it I think the home fans would really that would go But it's like all right, you got to be able to beat the team at home like you got a writer cup riot But that would be sick. I don't know that's a week is early one more one more thing from the soul home cup Thank you for the kind words. I do just want to say's a week is early. One more thing from the Soulheim Cup. Thank you for the kind words. I do just want to say one more time.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Like I think that the ladies European tour CEO and the leadership there, like they should fucking clean house. It was one of the most disgraceful, disorganized, like, they should be driving by the convenience store right now. It's so, it was so bad and like it was, it was shameful. And I, I, I, like, Randy and I wrote story of it. It's so it was so bad and like it was it was shameful. And I like Randy and I wrote something about it. Go read that on nolingup.com.
Starting point is 00:57:12 KVV, I just read your your preview piece that you just just wrote that I think we're getting up right now. Awesome stuff there. Go to nolingup.com. Plenty of writing there. But go read what we wrote about Soul Heimkup. It's nolangup.com. Plenty of writing there, but go read what we wrote about SoulHum cup. It's like a sleeping giant and the ladies European tour is absolutely frittering in a way. It is sad to see what they came out with in Spain. I love that. Hold on to the works to task.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Yeah. I was going to say people are still buzzing about the SoulHum cup. They're also still talking about the TV stuff. it was a very real real feeling. It's a lot of a lot of stuff from golf channel people about missed golf shots that I do see we got Doddy Pepper on our side. That could go a lot of ways going forward. Through enemy of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Shit, go it on.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Everybody seems to be coming around. Gosh, man. So I don't we don't know the pairings, but just, you know, let's get on the record. Where are we thinking four balls going to go in the afternoon? Any any surprises? I don't think there's going to be a ton of surprises. I mean, I think we might be tied at the end of tomorrow. I think Europe wins morning.
Starting point is 00:58:21 I think it might be four or four. I'm I I know we just did individual picks. I don't feel good about the US going three and one in the morning on the whole. I, because I also, that's a sick place. I would, I feel very good about the US winning four ball, like doing very well in football. Okay. Um, I think of the US as leading at the end of the first day. That's a, I mean, I know this is a brand old type of take, but I don't have any concerns then
Starting point is 00:58:46 after that. I think they need to absolutely weather the initial storm. And that's just what they've over and over and over again, they've been behind the April in Europe. If at the end of day two, if it's Europe seven, US nine, I would still feel good about being in that spot. Like that's, that's the line of like with the way singles, I think would potentially shake out, that would still feel okay. Worse than that would be a pretty big disaster.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Yeah, I would just want a close one, right? I mean, I don't have as a capital J journalist, I don't really have an investment in one side of the other. Same. Same. Yeah, it's totally. But I just want to, I mean, the last two have just been told blowouts. And so it's been like a miracle hoping for on Sunday signals But we can get a good one that's super intense down the stretch. Oh, man
Starting point is 00:59:30 I don't see how this golf course like doesn't produce a tight one Yeah, I mean where it's like kind of agree. That's where whistling straights was. It's where Hazel teen has been That's where Paris you know, well, I mean that all kind of makes sense after the fact It's like of course seven and oh Like a group of bugs my situation was playing multiple matches at one that could change things after the fact that of course seven and oh like a good multiple matches that one that could change thing. But I just I feel like this golf course just is destined to produce a tight one. But
Starting point is 00:59:52 what do you think sits for the US in the afternoon? Because if we've got I think all four of those guys are going to play Brooks Windham. Who else we miss Jordan and Justin Harmonium Max sit. I think Max is going to play a play. and Justin. Harmon and Max sit. I think Max is going to play. Play a play. Okay. I think Harmon will sit.
Starting point is 01:00:08 I think Fowler will sit. I think Burns will sit. And I think I'm going to back out with totally off the cuff. I could see Scotty sitting in the afternoon if no one's playing five. Yeah. I can go down with that. I would, I would think they're going to go Scotty. The big days of golf on Friday and then sit the
Starting point is 01:00:26 afternoon session maybe on Saturday lose it. You're sitting Scotty? No. Well, on Saturday, you mean? Yeah. We'll see how he plays. That's part of what is Scotty's balls out. I know.
Starting point is 01:00:37 That's the most talented player likely that he'll lay in an egg. The narrative around him is guy. And that's where TC is going to have to apologize for inventing it. People like despite the bad putter, he's still been the best player by far. Like it's said, and I don't know if it's going to turn around, but he's that good of a ball striker. He really is. Yeah. I think Scotty, Scotty should be a predator, especially in, in, in, in, in, uh, four ball. Um, I, like I'm kind of in this weird thing where I think it's almost switched
Starting point is 01:01:04 a little bit where I could see Europe being really good in Forbal and I could see the US Kind of being stronger than they have been historically in for some's Interesting. I think there's something weird about I know this is all you know talk radio who wants it more type of shit But if you've got all this like it you know, it's been 30 years, right? Like you know what you guys are all this, you know it's been 30 years, right? Like, you know what you guys are trying to do? You know how hard it's gonna be, right? You know how no US team ever does this.
Starting point is 01:01:30 If they, this is kind of what we're saying on the preview too, of like playing ForSums in the morning, if your up comes out and like takes a 3-1 lead or something like that, how do you not go out in four ball and just feel like you are like, all right, fucking foot on the gas. Everybody has to press.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Every pot has to go in. How do you not like press too hard to try to make birdies? Yeah. Again, I think the four ball, almost no matter what happens, the four ball line up is going to shake out better for them. I don't know. It's a format that have been more comfortable in Europe. And it's at the end of halfway through tomorrow,
Starting point is 01:02:02 four of 28 points will be decided. Like it's not, it's not press time. It's still one shot at a time. It's still these guys have a process. Like, these guys still have a approach to this thing that I don't, I don't think it's going to get decided in the first session. Will Brexit, P.F. You look at Brexit.
Starting point is 01:02:18 No, I got Brexit. That was Paul McGillian. Those guys are talking a lot on cameras. I got it. Yeah. We had to talk that much. I think we too much time. I got it. Yeah. There might be too much. We had to talk that much. I think we too much airtime to fill. Yeah. Speaking of which, can we talk about the junior rider cup and how
Starting point is 01:02:30 badly the US got their passes kicked? Way beyond KVV was say that before you jumped on that those kitchen ask you answers tough questions. Give him his a knife. They're captain for a paving. We were walking by some people today and we heard that they were like, they every time they see Corey Pavan, they're like, oh, is this rain gear? Like, is it permeable?
Starting point is 01:02:49 I'm not sure. The US pants today, TC, I didn't hear you mention this yet. The US pants were disgrace. With like the long pants, but they have like the silk screen print on them. Like get that. They look like rain pants. I was gonna say, I don't even think they look like rain pants.
Starting point is 01:03:05 It looked like sweatpants. Yeah, just get them to get them out of here. You don't do that. You know, you know, you've got some bad stuff. I was totally fine with today. I like the shorts better. It's like senior long around. Has the junior writer cup been around?
Starting point is 01:03:18 And like we certainly have in 27. Yeah. If you asked T.C. Since 2023, but the US has won like the last 25 of these. But we haven't had anybody play in the junior Ryder Cup who played later in the Ryder Cup. Yeah, KTV the junior Ryder Cup. Okay. The junior Ryder Cup has been around since 97. Okay. US is one, the last six of them and before that, Europe won the last, the previous four.
Starting point is 01:03:42 So, yeah. Now guys, I will say like, did anybody expect ZJ to come out with, there was all sorts of stripes going on on the shirts and get two different color blues? Going on, did you catch one of the socks? A hat on both sides are some of the worst, like the most ill-fitting things I've ever seen. Max had a good, the rope hat that Max had
Starting point is 01:04:04 was good today. The US team photo with the striped on the middle, but everybody's a different height, so the line did not go straight across. That was a very tough one. Did you see the ZJ Soxie is wearing today, T.C.? He's wearing shorts with like high striped socks. It was just, it was bad. How about the, you say, found a new sock.
Starting point is 01:04:20 He was sent to know where Sox was for the Gallo as a tribute to like, Italian summer. Like, fine, if you don't have like a ridiculously ugly sock, I'm not where socks for the gala is a tribute to like Italian summer like Fine if you don't have like a ridiculously ugly sock and line like a golfers sock Dan line But I think the no you know cancel me for this take if you want but the I think the loafers with no socks is called to far. I'm out now granted that was that was the look for Niels wedding Everybody got to say I will say that was that was the quality play because I got some of the worst blisters Exactly, it's just not worth it DC Yeah, now granted on the on the European side for the gala their tailoring on their suits was fucking horrific
Starting point is 01:04:58 So it was awful like a pants bunching at the ankles all sorts of stuff there I will say. I worked with Monahan's guy. Yeah. Monahan was like hitting in the back in that big group picture too. I think that if the US loses, I think Zach Johnson should have to shave his head. Wow. He is, he is a disgrace to the baldest. Europe loses, you got to shave your head. He is he is a disgrace to the baldest
Starting point is 01:05:27 Europe loses you got a shave your head Yeah, I think you know you got JT speed Zach There could be others that are Obviously I'm not proud of I'm proud of my Everyone has to follow your route. They they've chosen a different route. Okay, you know Brian Erlacher's probably probably an assistant captain Do you think cat is is wired in on like a headset? Sure. I think he's I think he's running North American comms I would love to see the comms comm set up like a whole control room and stuff like
Starting point is 01:05:59 Like Batman's control room in the dark He's got an Oculus on. Stevie, Streck, Streck. They're they're cutting the grass down on 14. I told those guys were socks. I'm gonna get pushed. Jesus. Okay, things are falling apart here.
Starting point is 01:06:18 That's going to make the recap pod in 2045. We look back at the 2023 rider. Cuz this is what things turned. When the mic stage fell, anything else we got to get to you. You're giving me a good, good prediction, just a hot. I think we just know that we're scorching one though. Like what are we, what are we going to see? Who's going to, you know, five and a half, two and a half U.S.
Starting point is 01:06:40 after day one? Fuck yeah. Four and a half, three and a half Europe. I said, four, four on the score already. I'm a half, three and a half, Europe. I said four. Way better prediction. I said four, four on the score already. I'm trying to think of something, something toasty. God, who's going to lay an egg?
Starting point is 01:06:54 Someone's going to lay an egg tomorrow. I mean, Phil. Phil might lay an egg. A question. When does like the, the moment happen where I have the inevitable? Oh, kind of, I'm trying to get it. I forgot about it. Yeah, that's kind of what I'm trying to get at is it like 7 58 a.m. Like is it happened before 9 a.m.? I'm gonna say my hot take will be I think Lowry and Strocka. I think it could be decisive. I think it's gonna be like four and three. Wow. Okay. Win or lose
Starting point is 01:07:22 Oh, with win. Will any live players act out to get the starved retention a little bit want to sort of turn it back Themself, not not on Friday. Okay, maybe Saturday or Sunday T.C. You think we're gonna see climate protesters. Yes Yes, I do I'm trying to think of like kind of already said I'm I think Harman I I think Harman's gonna have a good week. I think Seps gonna have a good week. I think Ludwig goes like, it wins at least three points,
Starting point is 01:07:52 if not three and a half. Tomorrow. But you're gonna say lose five. No, I think Ludwig probably sits Saturday morning, but plays both four ball sessions and then, obviously playing with with Vic and not one and then I'm super keen to see what happens with with with Ram. Ram's been kind of up and down lately.
Starting point is 01:08:14 I think Ram. Ram's a key linchpin for these for these Euro sessions. Europe goes the way of Ram, I think. I think. But on the flip side, I think this is a huge opportunity for Matt Fitzpatrick to prove that he's not unadulterated ass in these things. I'm bullish on him in singles, but I think it'd be massive if Fitz could get us two points They did him so dirty with just a massive braces photo up on the back of one of the grandstands. It looks like a 14 year old kid. It's really tough.
Starting point is 01:08:45 The screen, like if you're attending tomorrow or this week, the screens out on so many of the holes are fantastic. Like they're huge. There's gonna be awesome places to see. You want to mean bag zones out there to just veg the poke out. On the actual holes, if you want to get there early
Starting point is 01:09:00 and get a good spot on a back nine hole, you can watch the whole thing unfold on TV. Like it's a really freaking good set of way better than Paris. Paris was really tough logistically. You are you are ranting and raving about the build out the set of all this stuff. I it's got a great. It's an experience. Well, man, I love it.
Starting point is 01:09:18 It's a good. Hey, Paris was not a good fan experience. I went as a fan to Paris. It was I had just sit in front of a TV and watch it. I could not see any golf out there. It was not a good venue for Ryder Cup. This is like Spain last week. As much as I don't love the design of the course. I still like, again, I said this in our preview video. I don't care that much about architecture for a Ryder Cup. I want it to be a good stage for competition. I don't want to see hack out rough. I don't think that's a good for competition. I want to see, you know, the big, it's all about creating the atmosphere. Hazel
Starting point is 01:09:48 team, not an amazing golf course by any stretch. Perfect rider. Cup venue, like perfect in terms of Midwest crowd getting, you know, getting big, big groups of people into watch a lot of golf and create a loud atmosphere was fantastic. So whistling was not it. This is going to be it. And gosh, it's going to be fun to watch. Shout out to the GF America And our partners BMW Mussolini BMW has been an incredible partner. They are of course the they're electrifying the the rider cup this week and have provided us with all have much work to do It's already electric. It's very electric
Starting point is 01:10:20 They have clutch ride. We had home from the course. It was great fantastic I say that because they don't really like we don't really do like ad reads for them, but they do so much behind the scenes to support our content. For some reason they just help us out. That's amazing. They bring us to these events and they're a huge partner of the rider cup and they help elevate our content on many different fronts. So we huge outs of the MW for everything this week. So T.C. last question I have for you.. Yay or nay, do we see Blocky this week? I was gonna, you took the words right out of my mouth. I've heard no.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Really? DJ Khaled will be in Boulder. So we can call it the James Vokers. Which is a huge, huge W for everybody on both sides. This week and I think Blocky, I think Blocky shows up personally. I think I don't think he's going to be able to resist. And I think Lil Blocky probably shows up too. Maybe he just, maybe he stands up shop in Frisco and he leads like the watch part of your
Starting point is 01:11:19 son like that for Team USA. Lil Blocky should have been in the junior rider cup with like 195 hour ball speed for sure. Good point. Little blocky's like 23 or 24. Love like passing train to the surprise. Absolutely. Nobody Italy incredible play. Like this is it's a it's I don't know if it's like a perfect rider cup venue just because logistics are a problem here but man is it really cool to be here? Again, the surprising part that, you know, the part that's not surprising, the food is unbelievable. It is, we have had already had multiple contrary pepies, and there might be another one tonight. We might have run this in pizza here actually very soon, but it's so cool to see like this obviously historic city and this event blend. And I'm really, really excited for this weekend if you can't tell.
Starting point is 01:12:05 We'll be back doing live shows, of course, after every round. We're gonna get back to the hotel. Again, we are at the mercy of the shuttle schedule. Cannot promise when we'll be back. Time changes very much in our favor though. It is. It's not like people are staying up.
Starting point is 01:12:18 We've got some time. We can really just do it properly. We don't need to rush. And we'll have some writing. That's right. I really a couple pieces It will mail that mailbag is up and I wrote another little kind of personal essay kind of why the right maybe you wrote about crying I did just gonna I think move some people. Yeah, we'll solve this definitely cry I don't think I'm gonna read it
Starting point is 01:12:38 I read it Monday. I'm already gonna be crying when he has lipysis. It'll it'll just live It'll be you will realize put his cloud makeup on. It's Sunday. I said it was going to be different. 10, 6 going to the Sunday. He's put his uniform on. 10, 6, that was Brooklyn. We can do it.
Starting point is 01:12:55 I've got to feel it. I saw it. What do you think the pins tomorrow? What do you think they're going to do with those? What should we expect from us? They can never put them in the middle of the green of Justin roses on the ticket pro I'm a pro-m joke joke Someone said to me that my English accent was like a war crime. I mean, they wanted more of it
Starting point is 01:13:16 The expecting plenty of bad English in Italian. KV is like old man Italian accent last night at the Gallows It was really, really quality. You have to think of a way to work that character in. I have no idea on Penn's TC. Who does it help to really spice them up? I couldn't tell you. I feel like that's kind of, yeah, I don't know. I've always gone back and forth on this, right?
Starting point is 01:13:40 Where it's like, you would think the stronger team on paper is rooting for harder pins, right? But then the US always puts theirs right in the middle and I think I feel it just countertuitive. But obviously it's not drives a comeback in theory. Like that's what happened at Medina. The pins were on the edge and it drove a comeback. So Hazel team, they're like, you're not coming back and putting them in the middle. I guess if it's in the middle, then it's like it dulls it down.
Starting point is 01:13:59 I guess I don't know enough about that. I think half it does get to the it gets to the granular level of like, hey, you like to fade it into pins and you're gonna be hitting the approach out on the odd holes. Like we're gonna put pins on the right. I say that actually, I don't know if, do they have control of where they're pinning holes anymore? So I think they've already gotten the pins, like the pin sheets for like five,
Starting point is 01:14:24 it's like, hey, here are the five pins for each hole for the week. I don't think that they announce it until prior to each round, though. So I think they can prepare accordingly for, you know, to see that pin throughout the week, but they don't know which round it's gonna be. And I'll say this now, and I feel differently about this
Starting point is 01:14:42 even than I did last night just having seen the course I don't feel like this is like a horribly tilted setup And I don't expect that to be an excuse Sunday night. I can come up with an excuse You asked me to on Sunday night, but I would pre I'll preemptively call for I think the US should take the lead Starting back page that we should go back towards more neutral setups Whatever setup would drive an exciting close competition. It's been 11 years since we've had one single close rider cup. Like if Europe goes and blows this one out, I don't think that's good for the rider cup.
Starting point is 01:15:11 Which I think walking on that golf course today, cutting down a lot of that rough we were bitching about, changing a lot of that stuff. I'm like, oh, this feels like a normal golf course, man. It feels much more neutral than it did in May. More neutral than that. I would like to see the US get ahead of it. Take the lead and say we're moving the rider a couple of way from Beth page.
Starting point is 01:15:31 It's going to be horrific in 2025. Like what is awful right? Just tune around a day of manner. It's going to be indefensible. Like the save all of your takes about Fugus jingoism. Whatever happens this week, you will have all the media you want out of town. I honestly like high schools play in front of no fans because their fans have misbehaved.
Starting point is 01:15:51 So I was like, yeah, who would just have that? With TVV, I'm not even talking about that. I'm just talking about like just the course and getting there and a boring, a little walk in there. We'll get there in the next year. A lot of it is just like take it to Liberty National even. Go do that.
Starting point is 01:16:06 Guys, can I leave you with something? Some motivational quote. One of my team members is this week. He says, in life and in business, there are a few things that you need to look to new leaders. What would be great is if we can slip through that period of transition, unaffected and start to look to new leaders. What would be great is if we can slip through that period of transition, unaffected, start to look to the next generation
Starting point is 01:16:28 to come through and to have that winning culture. I thought that you'd do the Justin Rose commercial. That is team Rose. I couldn't tell whether he was Morgan Stanley commercial or whether he's talking about the Ryder Cup. But that said, I think almost work for about the rider cup, but that said I think almost work for word the conversion. I know that's why you need to lean on people to exactly exactly and I think it's foreshadowing for what we're going to see. It's a new dawn of on us gentlemen.
Starting point is 01:16:57 All right, we're going to go get lost in Rome a little bit in bed early because we will be on the 5 a.m. shuttle out to make it in time for the 7.25 or like a 6.15 shuttle. 7.25 opening t-shirt, but look for it. Hopefully people will be getting up. Hopefully you don't get absolutely putchered with commercials in the morning. I will not apologize for that. It's probably going to happen. For everybody tuning in, that's 1am Eastern on the USA Network. these characters were welcome. And then that's Friday Saturday. We're gonna go 1 a.m. start and then 3 a.m. which switching over to NBC and peacock.
Starting point is 01:17:32 And then we'll talk about final day stuff. But live show tomorrow afternoon, KVV, I just saw your new piece about weeping, go up so congratulations on that. Everybody go check it out on nolang it up.com and excited boys. Oh, I can't wait. It's gonna be great. Thanks for hopping on that was show life.
Starting point is 01:17:51 We will we will I'm sure see you tomorrow. If if Europe has a good day, I imagine we will see you. So looking forward to tomorrow. Thanks everyone for tuning in and we'll be back Friday. Saturday and Sunday. Thank you to high new thank you. BMW shout out. Cheers shout out USA Network Tony Shalube. and we'll be back Friday Saturday and Sunday. Thank you to Hanyun. Thank you, BMW. Shout out.
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