No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 747: Friday Ryder Cup Recap

Episode Date: September 29, 2023

The Euros were dominant, the Americans - and the TV coverage - stunk, and we've got a 6.5 to 1.5 score after day one of the Ryder Cup. We break it all down, make some apologies, and look ahead to the remaining two days of competition in Rome. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah. That is better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most. the Fedora slash pork pie hat. The preview show last night we said we ever had the worst takes. I would have to at least don it to address those takes. I'm just going to wear it for the whole show because we have a lot to address.

I'm sure TC is going to want to discuss that. We have if you are tuning in live, you just saw an opening that seem a little clips a few clips out of context, but address a lot of stuff from two years ago. DJ Pies here to help me address these as well. Hello, pie, man. You sound a little like Windom Clark. You know, some of my comments were taken out of out of context as well. Hello, pie, man. You sound a little like Wyndham Clark. You know, some of my comments were taken out of out of context, but you know, I stay alive. I stay alive. Hey, good to be with you. Exciting day nonetheless, no matter how much, you know,

carbonara we have in our face right now. God, they cut the part where I said they knew the switch to six captains picks out of that and they did that. It looks like the task force and the change in process that I called for work for your TC. How are you feeling right now? Feeling great. I would encourage everybody to go back and listen to that whole podcast episode, whole live show. If they'd like to, there's plenty of context in there. I think it makes you look even worse, Sally, if I'm being honest.

I love it. My favorite part of that is like two weeks before that, you were saying, Burnt Veeceberger was going to lead Europe to victory. It was like straight switch. We can check the tapes. Oh, that was as well. But I have to admit to what was in front of me, right? At the time, I'm no different than you in that regard. T.C. If you are just a tequila lover who was never satisfied with malt based hard celtzer offerings, you are going to love the new high new tequila celtzer. Really wish we had something that I'm going to do today. It is for alcohol. Really wish we had some of that over here that is now available nationwide made with real tequila and real juice. It's got a clean finish because it's made with real blanco tequila.

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Yeah, he was very, very vague about it. If it's not COVID, it's something else, some sort of bug running through it, which makes complete sense that he's... Do we have guys coppin' in or no? We have somebody as broke and tain on this live show. Hold on a second. Has anybody sent anything out here? Hold on. Did you send the live show. Hold on a second. Has anybody sent anything

out here? Hold on. Did you send the live show link out, TC? I might have put the wrong link out. You put the string. Come on. We got to, we can't be doing this. Yeah, we're kicking people out. TC, sorry. You're sick. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie.

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Not good. I'll let you guys have the floor. No, I'll let you have the floor. Let's start at the top. Your boys got and sweep the first session. They have a, like, basically historic little mini-Montana in the afternoon where they flip three matches in a row. TC, what, please, the floor is yours to start here.

What's going through your mind? Yeah, definitely an interesting kind of, I don't know, some interesting decision making there in the Friday morning for some. Roman Hatten looked awesome. Sheffler and Burns, I think the only reason that Burns is on the team is because, you know, he's friends with Scotty, like true buddy system.

Everybody wants to be pissed off at JT when Burns is really the buddy system guy and Burns looks like a total lemon and, you know, they didn't play him with Scotty in the afternoon. And I'm not, you know, I'm not sure what they can do moving forward if he plays again until Sunday singles. So that's how it got started. Ramen hadn't looked awesome. I loved what Luke said right off the jump.

He said, I sent these guys out because they understand the context and the significance of this tournament, just awesome stuff there. And then yeah, and then we go to Hoveland and Ludwig. People thought Ludwig was, you know, a little bit nervous at first. I think he probably was. Um, hit, you know, but he had a, he piped a drive, not that we

would have known on to and then hit other good shots. Put it really, really well. Uh, bring it together here. TC went to what's the, what's the takeaway here? It was a beast. I mean, I don't know. You'll be talking about the first session or you will be talking about like, I thought you're just going to close for a session. No, there's like, it's just like, like, LD was calling, calling plays, man, he was calling explosives. He was calling shots. They fucking rocked him. I mean, it was, you know, the first two matches were, were like over before they started. Shane and Sep look great. I think DJ, you and I were all out front on that one. We were we rock them on that one.

DJ and TC. And then and then and then Rory and Tommy kind of, you know, Tommy didn't, Tommy potted well, I thought they weren't falling. Rory made a couple stupid mistakes, but they closed out Xander and and P and then they sat P in the afternoon. they broke up the US Dream team there. It was awesome. I was glowing after the morning session. Meanwhile, ZJ is riding around shots of his crotch up there on the TV. They had this crotch cam going.

It was great. It's just, like the body language from the wall day, all of it, the communications, the interviews, all of it. He just looked like a shook, shook little kitten. So I feel like I'd be pretty shook if my team went out and laid the egg that they went out and laid. It was, it was the fastest, oh shit moment of any of the European Ryder cups.

It seems like, you know, I think it started with Victor's chip in on number one on the very first hole. That was a very tough scene that happened right off the bat. And it very early momentum. There was absolutely nothing that went right in the early session. Every pairing on the US side had an anchor. I mean, San Burns was awful. Brian Harmon was awful.

We can talk about him and Max are going back out together tomorrow morning. The more a cow, a fowler pairing was one that I was kind of like, I'll trust a process on this one. Don't know if that was a rogue pairing or if they went against the data or where that one came together, but they had absolutely nothing. And then Xandarin can't lay just kind of fell all over each other and made mistakes at the absolute worst times and it was a fast whitewash. It was a otherwise great like afternoon of golf was fantastic. We can get into into the afternoon part, but holy shit to the morning go as bad as it possibly could. I think in the first 50 holes they played the US made six birdies in for some which is like a ridiculously low birdie rate. Pros make birdies at like 18 to 20%.

That's awful. It's just you have to make birdies early in these formats. And none of the matches made it to 18. And I could not have pictured the opening session going worse. I really could tell you the most shocking moment for me was when can't like can't lay, they have like one the fucking hole like they're in the middle of the fairway. I made it.

Just one 14 to get it to one down. That's what they blow it. Roy blows it away right off the tee. Tommy's got a punch out into the fairway. They played the whole perfect. Xander hit it in the middle of the green. Can't lay runs as putt five feet. But I'm not even talking about that one.

I'm talking about one earlier. I think I think same one you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. So on a tail, I just don't want to the middle of the water. It was one of the word just golf shots. You do not see professional golfers hit happened on repeat today. It was so pathetic.

Thank God. I need a camera. We have drinks arriving courtesy of KVV who has just arrived for the media center. I need I need to find out what Brian Harmon did off the second team Max has like driving iron into the second hole while love it. It just in every time that they made a little tiny run, they felt like there was a crazy flip of the euros draining a long putt and the USD making a short putt. That flip on 15 was devastating. They were had a chance to get it to even and they walk off that green two down.

After already losing the first three matches, like it was just a perfect comedy of errors. I still can't believe it. I think my macro takeaway from the day, if you really want to like very quick post mortem, is we can do all T.C. We can do all the pairings stuff. We can do all the I hate analytics stuff. We can do all the who wants it more stuff. I don't know. No, no, no, no, I know. I'm just saying I see all the all the feedback

right. If like all these guys are doing the data there, you know, all these pairings are shitty. All the captains pick. They should have taken this guy. But we can do all the second, third, fourth, fifth guessing if we want. That's fine. Guys played like absolute shit ass like Scottie Schaeffler is chunking chips. Windom Clark is, I forget who that was in the, oh, San Bernard is pulling shots into the middle of ponds from the middle of the fairway. Like they just played fucking awful. They played it awful. Ricky can't make a putt from four feet. It was, it's the kind of stuff where it's like, I think like the data and the pairings

and all that stuff like largely, I didn't really have that much of a problem with. But your data like, is not based on that. So you guys are blaming the player. It's not just to be clear, you're blaming the players. Yeah. It's my favorite. T.C., I would love to blame the golf course. I would love to blame ZJ. You know,

I would love to do all of these things. People don't take me seriously on the golf course stuff about how much I hated the golf national. Marcos and money had absolutely nothing to fucking do with today. Absolutely none of it. I thought I thought it was great too. And I wish you a full minute couple and that we'll get to that. I it's funny. That's like the fifth minute. Culpa that's not even going to register. I think I'll be giving it out now. I don't know. It's just more people listen to the Sunday. But I, I think you can fairly critique the San Burns pick. You could, you could critique it at the time. I kind of had, again, I had some faith in the process. I think you could critique, you know, sending

them out in force. If his game wasn't really there, we said on the live show Thursday, he was one of the last guys on the range after play on, on Thursday, sending him out in force. If his game wasn't really there, we said on the live show Thursday, he was one of the last guys on the range after play on on Thursday, which is not usually a good sign. I think that's a very fair critique. I don't, you know, Max, you're going to send Brian Harmon out, right? I got a lot of shit from people after the open championship when I was like, Hey, I don't know if I put him right on the immediately on the Ryder Cup team and everyone's screaming. He's going to absolutely crush guys.

And that did not happen. We too. I thought Harmon was a sure thing. And that was a good, a good example of watching that match was like, and first of all, that was my first real taste in a while of like coming back in afterwards and like opening Twitter for the first time and seeing people's reaction versus like, well, I just like watched all the shots. He's like, Max stunk. Max couldn't do anything. Oh my God. No, he did you see where he was playing from by chance?

Did you see like Brian Harman didn't make a thing. Like, that's why he's on this team is to make 10, 12, 15, 20 footers. And God, he wasn't even close, man. And the driver's like gets wayward and it's wayward and short. And the irons are bad. It was just it was everybody on a pretty much everybody played bad in that in that morning. I think today is total vindication for Tom Watson because he was right. You guys stink at ForSums. Like he was totally right on this one. KV is going to be joining us shortly,

but we got there's a lot of stuff we got to get out of the way that you know, it's basically just formalities. One of those things is of course he begged to come on the podcast tonight. He was super happy. You know, you didn't, you didn't, Europe was way up when it happened, but Mr. Jamie Weir would like to, would like to I believe address a few things Cody, if you want to bring him in. Hello, Jamie, how are you? Hello. Ciao, Tutti. Come and style. I love hang on. Chowtooti. Motive.

Are we all I can barely hear you guys by the way the audio quality is shocking. I think it's my Wi-Fi. But are we all doing it is you so why don't you know we'll send you you can say what you like to say and then we'll send you underway. We are. We're struggling with your connection here. But believe me, we really want to hear what you have to say. What a day. I mean, an incredible day. I don't think anybody saw it coming. Yeah, thanks for the airports. Not as I can do with that. And look, yeah, I just think it was one of those days

when it went beyond Luke Donald's wildest dreams. Obviously, so much meticulous preparation goes into the pairings and pouring over the data and the analytics and all that kind of thing. And they go all the big calls right this morning, just could not have gone better for them. But you still got to, once you've done all that and you've prepared your team as best you can, they still got to go out there and hit the shots and Europe just told a ton of parts and they looked happy out there,

like they were enjoying a childish company and the Americans by contrast just didn't have it for whatever reason. And that last half hour of the day, when it looked as if the top three matches were all going to go the US's way and Europe to some high salvaged half a point from each of them was huge. Again, your connection is tough and we're going to send you out on this, but is it over, Jamie? Are you willing to declare it over? Are you willing to fly the banner? No, no, no, look, sorry about the connection or something, I can do with that, but look, there's 20 of 28 points to play for and I think Zac Johnson, I don't know what he's going to tell us team this evening and there's a lot of issues with that team clearly, but

if he will have to say to his team, look, if Europe can win a day six and a half to one and a half, there's no reason why we can't, We've got 12 studs in our team. Go out there and just give it full all glans guns blazing from the word go and who knows if they get back to within three points that we know historically the US are always stronger to come singles. I definitely don't think it's over at all but obviously it's looking pretty nice at the moment. All right, well, my connection. I was expecting more gloting from you. And maybe if you get it, I'll miss you. It's not my style, so I'll let you. No, you know what the no-gloting is somehow almost work.

I'm very gracious and vitrate. I'm gracious and defeat. Amen. Oh, so you're going to be able to declare victory. That's OK. So you did declare victory. That's great. All right.

Well, I know you're going to pay for the premium upgrade to internet to be able to glow on Sunday night. So we'll maybe speak to you then. I'll see your smug face walking around the grounds of Marco Simone tomorrow. Guys, real big. That's the that's it. Ciao. Guys, real quick, a couple of things.

I got word that that Zach Johnson has been communicating with Kirk Ferenc in the lead up to this. The Iowa head football coach. He went with like very, that's some I need to know before. A lot of things. He said despite the four were multiple cat time captains. I'm still extenuating proud of what they've done. The rust was evident. I mean, none of these guys other than JT and Brooks have played in like four weeks, which like would you would you prepare for a major? Not not playing for three or four weeks prior? Probably not, but I don't want to I don't I almost feels like that's an excuse, right? Like they

knew very very well that they needed to have their games in shape to get off the bus, right? And they did not get off the bus even a little bit. And Luke looks like a genius for going for some first. I'm not sure what it mattered. I really don't think it would have mattered. I mean, I think they definitely set more of a tone, though. Like it's tougher to like play your way into game shape, into fighting shape in in for some versus fourall, right? What was the stat that was going around? They've won a half point in ForSums on the road in the last like three sessions or something like that. It's truly pathetic. KBV is joining us now as well. He's arrived drinks in hand. Thank you very much for bringing these there.

Greatly, greatly needed. You're welcome. I've come many, many moons from away to bring these drinks to you. It's been a journey to get the F home. So it is a little bit of a journey here. It is a bit of a struggle. We'll get to some afternoon matches as well. We can talk more the morning as well. I got to go back to the opening T shots though, opening T scene. The first Ryder Cup that you went to dig was the Wistling Straits one, which I believe I've been hyping this event a little bit, the in-person experience a little bit. Wistling left all of us wanting on a lot of fronts. You're not just the first T-scene, but just the crowd atmosphere in general. Said, oh, it's going to be different in Europe. It's going to be different in Europe. What do you think of the first T-C today? You know what? Massive letdown. Massive letdown, I need to apologize to the people of Wisconsin to DJ Chana of the Milwaukee Bucks who was out there pumping tunes. There was

no music there today. The fans all got in there way too late, which was really weird and we don't have to do a whole infrastructure podcast because obviously it didn't seem the first the atmosphere didn't really seem to affect the Europeans too much, but you blame the bus drivers. I going to blame the bus drivers. I'm not blame the bus drivers. I'm blaming how they there was too much or so nothing here has any order. That's like the whole charm, right? It's like, I don't know, things just happen when they happen.

The way they ordered the filling the seats was almost like too order to yeah, you know, like they filled, they filled them really slow and and then tell with 10 minutes to go half the stands were I mean a third of the stands were still empty. It was crazy. They did not like rushing that they still needed to like rush people in and I I would 10 minutes go before first. So I think is it like reserve seating or was it just that that's what I'm worried about TC is that they're selling some like crazy overpriced first T experience and I think a lot of those people are getting on the shuttle just like, oh, just wait. Like we're going to get there and all the loud people are going to be there just way. And it's like, oh, I think maybe you're sitting

in the loud person's seat. I think that's LACC. Yeah, it's, you know, I don't have the numbers to back that up, but that was certainly how it felt. I did hear that TC from couple of British journalists who were like, this is, they sold out some of these seeds to some high rollers. Yeah. The fans were not allowed to kind of fill up that spot. Yeah, it was a discipline. I mean, France was outrageous. It was truly rocking huge steep grandstands, awesome chairs. And that first he was just kind of more like whistling straights than it was, you know, France. That's for sure. So it was a bit of a tough scene. But man, it was beautiful like that morning, the sun rising over the hills. Like it was a, by

the time it filled up, it was an awesome, awesome scene. Um, I still got chills. Like when the players would come out, yeah, and everybody, and the whole thing swells and everybody realizes what's going on. And Nicholas Cole starts is out there doing the big like, you know, the big overhead clap stuff. That like, there were a couple of cool moments, but it was not as I was led to believe, not by you, but by the content industrial complex. Put it on the list, the things I'll apologize for on this show. Guys, can I ask you for permission?

Can I take the door off? It is really difficult to keep the headphones on and my ears are starting to hear. Sure. I think if you have any of these, you gotta put it back on. You may put it on, but you do have to sure. I think if you have you may you may put it on you do have to post a selfie later in it. Okay. Okay, that's fine. Sure. I can't get any more humility.

I also blocky blocky blocky blocky blocky is posting from a rollo troubuco. As of the last two hours still there is not on his way to Rome as of this moment, unless this is just misdirection for him. Well, it's all fantastic. He might need to join the team. Oh my God. Can you imagine? Blockies the man in the envelope. He talked to me about ZJ's presser.

It was honestly pretty lame. Look, this is not going to surprise you. ZJ went, you know, full. Like I'm so proud of my guys. I mean, he used proud like 11 times, you know, which is like probably more times in the score points today. I feel like a good follow up would have been what's specifically are you proud of? Because I thought everything was really shitty.

Yeah. I look, I think you might have seen this on Twitter. He alluded to the fact that they have had a sickness that has been running through the team. I, who knows what the sickness is? He kept saying, I'm just not going to get into that real football coachy behavior. But I want you guys to know, I want to get not excuses, but you know, we, and so a couple of people grilled him a little bit was Ricky, one of the people who was sick. And well, I'm just not really going to go into that whole deal. So I don't know. I mean, look, I think that they just got absolutely hoodwinked in terms of like strategy.

Like I, I, I understand we're having to talk about, you know, for some of the pair of things, whatever. If you're going to bring Justin Thomas, if he's your whole emotional powder keg or whatever, and you don't have him out there for that first session. I don't want to care if you feel like you can't put speech in appearing with in four sums, put him with somebody else, put him with with Max, put him with more cow or whatever, but not having him out there, it would became very evident when JT played in the afternoon. What a big mistake that was to me.

I agree with that, but I also think it's problem 3B of what happened. You know what I mean? Like I definitely, definitely agree. And I felt immediately as the matches went off, like, man, why are JTN speaking out here? But then you look at every other match and it's like, well, that wouldn't have fixed chunking chips. That wouldn't have fixed missing parts. That wouldn't have fixed like all this other stuff where I agree that was an issue, but I think of a larger issue was like guys just stuck. I think though

that like think about four sons in Paris, like JT and Jordan won their friggin match and at least gave them a fighting chance. Yeah. We if they wouldn't not not Friday, they lost their match on Friday. Okay. Four sons match. Yeah. Okay. But like I lost the whole session again, but they didn't get swept in the enforcements. It's right. So receiving words. I mean, like if they go three in one this morning, or you know, it's at least have like a chance in the afternoon to be like, all right, you know, we just we if we even if the worst we split this, but it was just so deflating to see them out there for the second session. They're like, okay, okay, well, it became so clear. Real quick, real quick too.

I think that's some of the, that was great. Some of the, some of the data boys are even turning on Zach. They said that the pairings that Zach sent out for the four sums this morning were in the bottom third, this is a very like credible dude here, I guess. Bottom third of teams he could have chosen. It sounds like the four ball teams were fine overall, but it just,

it just reeks of like, you know, analytics, analytics, but like not knowing even how to use the fucking analytics. But now this is where this is the part where you have an issue with like, this dude straight up is just saying, here's what the data says, right? When there's personalities involved in this, which has been well documented in this thing. And there's like judgments and scenario planning that goes into putting a like a pairing sheet together for that morning is dude, I just feel like I don't know what you're solving like what you could have solved for it. Does the US have eight guys that

can play golf right now? That's where I'm at is like, do they have it? I think that there's so many different. There's a lot of the US. I don't know that. Right now. That's my, my how this shit has changed. Oh, it's just for sure. Eight guys.

You're going to play golf right now. I think the US had negative strokes game. Like they were below average professional golfers like on this day. Like they played such fucking bad golf today. Like I don't know how to solve for that, right? Like I there's a point I definitely will own that I thought they were going to play way better than that. I just I get I almost feels like cop outish to blame. I would love to pin this on ZJ. But like, yes, it's like, all right, Sam Burns like your pick the team. Go play today. Brian Harman, you earned your way

onto this team. Like, don't top your drive off to or whatever you, like, don't do that. Patrick Kelly, you're one of the best players in the world. Like, don't chunk the ball from the middle of a fairway. That's where I'm at is I think this strategy stuff is, is almost like the tiebreaker, right? Where it's like, there's so many different ways that a session can be like one or lost, right? And you could have four really, really close matches and weird shit happens, like happening the afternoon. And they all get flipped and it turns out instead of two, two, it becomes four zero. Yeah. This was four zero a half hour into the first session. Like, there was no chance. That's where it's like, dude, don't spare me like the, if they only would

have just crunched the numbers a little differently. I'm like, no, no, but, but it's actually those guys with any of those guys and that would have happened today. Like some of us who you're sending out though, right? Like Brooks, like, all right, there's there's however many majors on the bench with JT. Brooks not playing for session, I think is a legitimate great. Brooks also did make a birdie in his first 13 holes in four ball. So like he might have laid it as well. But also, also I will say like more credit than to Luke for growing for some's out first, like totally on their back. I mean, I think they got hood. They back footed the US right away. Yes. I ultimately

that like my biggest takeaway of this is they should never, ever, ever be favored or even considered like a coin flip chance in Europe, ever fucking again. All right. That's the one thing that I said, as I thought I said 15, 13 Europe would win. They'll, they're having, I'm, if the US gets to 10, they'll be fucking, they would be an amazing miracle type run. They should never ever ever be fucking like considered. Not how coin flip again in Europe until they do it. Could I could I let a little Marco vehicle? Could I please have the floor of this? There's a great parks and wreck episode where Ron Swanson is,

he's made himself a video for when the next time he tries to get back together with his ex wife, it's like a very coldly rational like, like, hey, this person is terrible for you. Do not do this. You're going to play this at an intervention. We'll make this this part right now. For a dare manor in 2027. Don't let me get hyped on the US team.

Don't let me do it. All right. What's going to happen? Well, exactly what just happened. If I fall into this trap again, I'm not going to fall forward again. And what were your mistakes? Let's just talk it out. Thinking the US was going to play differently this time.

I still stick to it's a totally different team. I do still appreciate the process that has gone into this. They're losing it in a totally different way and worse than they ever have. But for once, I don't have a problem with how it's all come together. It's just like, you guys just stunk today. Like you truly stunk. And I don't want to, like, we're going to do this whole show assuming they don't have COVID and that's not a legitimate excuse. But like, the bright, stunk today. Like you truly stunk. And I don't want to like, we're going to do this whole show assuming they don't have

COVID and that's not a legitimate excuse, but like the right, it's going to be a huge, just huge bummer for everyone involved the right of cup. If it turns out the whole team has COVID, right? Like that's, that is an explainer for playing truly, truly awful golf. Just like there's, there's the first excuse right there. Love it. As a caveat or we could just run into the brick wall. You're up used COVID as an excuse all in 2021 when they lost 19 to 9. So, uh, yeah, it

we simply don't know what I mean. There's other things though here too. There's other things in play like ZJ sounds like there was like no vibe whatsoever. Teamroom wise LD's, live whatsoever team room wise. LD's, you know, got baby pictures, childhood pictures. Team room looks awesome. No, it was a great moment today. When Rose made that putt, when Rose made that putt and he pointed it at every person on the European team.

It's like, you, you, and you, and you, he was like, that was, I was like, oh, these dudes are like bonded together. Meanwhile, Rose said his president never had a moment like that. And he finally felt like that was a moment. And I wanted to shout out every single person who had like had my, and you know what?

Oh, damn, I'm getting kind of chills out that. He was so cool. He was so cool. I know I was so embarrassed today when my race started playing on like, fuck yeah, team Rose. Oh, you got to own that, TST. Guys, guys, I will say as well. I'm hearing all sorts of rumors that like Xander

and Kent, like could be cancerous, right? Like they've, a lot of rumors that they've been walking around this week, Xander's dad, all sorts of stuff allegedly saying they're pissy that they're not getting paid this week as well. Pissie that they're not getting, you know, that's the vibe on the US side. I'm getting it's a bunch of, you know, but they're not even wolves. We say, allegedly, I'm the strongest the one alleging it. This is all a legend.

I'm going to suck that they suck. I'm going to try to find it in this lack where TC literally said, am I going to try to so dissent in the US team room? Yes, I am. When it comes to the standard, I was weeks ago. I think the rose, the rose thing is spot on. I had the same thought over that part. And even before that one, Shane Lowry wasn't, wasn't playing in the afternoon, right?

Yeah. When he's out there, like whipping up the crowd, going out on the green. And I know, I know it's different. That's true. Just don't buy marks everywhere. You don't do that, TC. Like, I didn't see any of the team USA guys out there. I know maybe Ricky was out there, but didn't see Harmon, didn't see Burns.

Didn't see definitely, he can't lay. And I know it's different when it's the home crowd, but like those guys were down in all three of those matches or they either tied or down. And it was so clear like, hey, let's go fucking flip this. And Lowry shows up in the key match, Fleetwood shows up in the key match, all the caddies are out there. Everybody is just hyping up the crowd, getting starting chance. All the wives, various princes and gang. Dude, it's so cool. It's joyous.

It's so fucking cool. And it's really hard to root for the US. They're the TV really hard. It's awful losers. Like when they lose, it's. How about the body language on 18? The five is horrific. I mean, like those guys.

I mean, Rook's is already acting like a piece. We've talked about Rook's comment, yeah. We have it. we'll get there. But the like right before Rose hits that pot every member of team Europe, other than Ludwig, who was weirdly standing by himself, is standing behind that green, standing up at attention, ready to go nuts when it goes in. The entire team USA sitting back there, like sitting on the ground, just like, just just louched into the earth.

Like, don't look, look like they want to be anywhere else. That's who they are. I had, I was talking to a friend of the program who played the majors for a long time, and he was talking about like hitting slumps. And he's like, he's like a scout now. And I was asking what it looks for and whatever. He's like the whole thing with baseball is like, man,

if you're in a slump, I wanna see you go get invested in somebody else's game. Get out of your own head, like figure out, if you're playing like shitty, you know, if you're playing like shit, go pick a guy for a game and just get invested and like, man, you're gonna go two for three today. You're gonna go three for four.

I'm gonna help my team in some way. And God, these guys are so the opposite. They just don't, like, I'm sure they do care. I'm, you know, maybe they don't know how to show they care, you know, but it's, it's so bleak and miserable watching them. And that's where I felt like honestly and truly, and this is where it's like, painting clown makeup on your face. Like I truly believe the getting rid of the tiger fill aspect, like gave this group of

guys that actually like each other and got, have know each other really well and get along really well Would take care of that part of the of the team competition, right? What sucks is and you called this at the Soulheim Cup I know and you've said it about the Ryder Cup too and I totally agree is they're just such front runners It's like when it's all going well. It just becomes oh Look at our hit tonight. There's such front runners man man. And when it goes bad, there's such bitches. Yeah. And it's so hard to root for. Guys, real quick, one, one thing, like we're talking a lot about the US team. I think we need to be talking more about like, whether it's the morning session or the afternoon session, the European guys played so fucking good. But Vicki went straight, tracked them down.

Rom, Vic, your friend, Dr. Leo Chappin, he was in there quite a bit. Two of his gracious. Rom had just chipped in everything. Yeah. Three chippens and an eagle on the final hold to flip a match for the half a point. Like the balls won 60 by. But he knew what he knew what the job was. The job was don't leave

this short, like give it a chance. The other two guys have very makeable birdie puts, give it a freaking chance. Well, he did it. One of the most visceral memories of the days. So morning sessions wrapping up last match on the course is Fleetwood and Rory again, Zander and Cantlay, which funny story I was talking to Finno afterwards. He's coming over to obviously gloat about about everything and all of our bad takes on the podcast. And he goes, man, that club left or that ball left roise club face on 17 spoiler alert, he hits it to two feet. And Finno goes, I've never done this. And as soon as it came off the club face, I was just like, Oh, be good. And Harry's like, shut up. Don't say it. And of course, it's two feet. And they're walking up there. And the whole fucking

continent is chanting their names and going left out there. Yeah, go to the media center. You're. You know, it was funny. They, they, they, they, they had, so Tommy's got two feet to win the match. And can't lay has like a 15 footer, 20 footer leaves it short. What are we doing, man? What's the standard putting? Yeah, that's what I said. Zander. Oh, sorry, Zander, Zander put it. Yeah, yeah. Just miserable, man. And that's why you see the difference between that and all the romchippans. Rom's putt that blew out the O'Rain on 18. What he had to win it. I mean, it's just, I don't know.

God, that's brutal. It's like, they made a bunch of putt. We don't get the putts to the fucking hole. It doesn't matter. Like you don't. You're no situational awareness,

right? It's just like, man, like, what are, you know, what are we doing? I felt like, you know, Fleetwood didn't make it a whole lot of putts. He was putting there were good pots. They were getting to the hole. They were just a little bit outside the hole. And then when Rory missed that, that approach shot, I can't remember which hole it was. It was kind of

mid-round. Missed the approach shot. It kind of spun it off the front of the green and it came like, you know, 25 yards back off the front of that green. There's so many cool run-offs and and kind of crowned fronts on some of this stuff. And then Tommy puts the chip to like cool. I don't know. That's not cool. It's easy. It's not cool. But it's fine. There's some now with you. There's a public treasure. There's some cool stuff. There's some subtle stuff. Oh, there's some cool stuff because oh, like so. So two things on the greens. There's some good stuff in that like good shots are good and bad shots or like mediocre shots get penalized. Like there's a very big distinction with, with, you know, each shot

to speed last five holes. Yeah, even the slopes on the greens, just whether you're on the green on the, on the right side of the slope or not, these are big ass slopes. You got to, you got to hit with conviction both into the green and your pots. All right. I got to, I got to, I don't know when we're going to get these in because we got still so much to talk about, but we got to give a shout out to our friends at title is the number one ball at the 44th Ryder Cup Victor Ludwig J T Scotty Fitsy. The list, the list goes on. That was good.

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It's completely over. Let me let's hold out teeny bit of hope, like the first six holes of four sums will know within six holes. That's a nice thing. We'll know tomorrow early early. That's a great format for them too. That's what we're saying. Either they sweep it and they like figure something out in four sums are. It's definitely over. That did not do the I got a feeling.

We don't know how much shit we're not gonna go to do this at all. Oh, you're doing the sick thing again. Okay, cool. That's what he said. That's his quote, TC. I'm running back what he said. All right, speaking of quotes, can we talk about the Brooks quote? Sure. Yeah. All right. So running back what he said. All right, speaking of quotes, can we talk about the Brooks quote? Sure. Yeah. All right. So I cannot emphasize how weird this quote is considering who asked the question. All right. So at the end of the writer cup, it's hard to get players like for media people. So the writer cup has what I would consider essentially like, you know, interns asking questions with a tape recorder, like green

side, just get a couple quick quotes from the players. Both sides played hard. Both sides played hard. I'm here to find a really think a cap and do a nice job. What happened in this, they green side interview with Brooks Keppka was an, I've seen the transcript. How did you feel things went out there today. Good morning, Mr. Claire. Brooks's quote was, I mean, I want to hit a board and Pout like John Rom just did, but you know, it is what it is. Act like a child, but we're adults. We move on.

The that was the first quote. All right, a couple of us in the media center were like, wait, why wasn't there like a follow up question? I was like, cuz it's a fucking intern for like the writer cup hit a communication. It was a mean hit a board. So there was a lot of confusion about what this meant. Like, did John punch a

wall or something, whatever. Ultimately, it was a sort of explained to some of the people in the media that what he meant was like, he said it was shakurri part of the glitch. He was talking about Rome's putt that like hit the back of the hole, popped up in the air and went, which makes it even more bitchy and like loser dumb shit about say, oh, I wish I could just like hit a board hit like you bang it off the board and like the backboard and knock it in. So what are the adult comment? What the actual child?

I don't know. They shook hands after the match. Like it was, it wasn't like you sort of pissy and powder I mean, I was like a net sir like a let like I know when you get like a net point tennis Just like a Here's what I will say I did it was not video of this happening so it's very possible that Brooks Could have been like kind of laughing or kidding about it and sort of like been smirking and joking, you know, act like a child, you know, that teasing ROM or whatever, who I don't know, they're not

close, but I think they're, they don't have any like animosity towards each other. But man, like what a fucking quote to basically look like a complete dork. Yeah. After you which I'll give the US team credit for this. This is the first time they've turned the guns on Europe because they just turn the guns on each other. Usually when things go really poorly, I think we're just so early. There's so much time left for that. Well, I think this thing's going to disintegrate so quickly, like, especially if they get their asses beat early tomorrow, like we're going to see. It's 1990. And for sure. Yeah, for sure. Sure.

Yeah. But all right. So what I think is okay to have what they could they clinch? I think it would be more interesting if they got if all they needed on Sunday was a half. So it was like they were still

some sad hope that the US could sweep all 12 matches. I think it could feel it pretty good. It's pretty good. It signals. Listen, miracles do. I think it'll be really fucking funny. So, all right, Brooks though, like, like, so,

so, so, ROM coming down the stretch. ROM hits, you know, 16 makes the Eagle 17 hits, like, almost, almost makes the fucking shot on 17. I mean, that was absolutely T.C. That was lashes such a good shot. That was such a good shot. There were so many good shots in there. All those guys, it was, it was wild. How many good shots were in there? Oh, God is just as good. It's kind of just even better.

Yeah, yeah, both of them were. They were. Yeah, I mean, hadn't had a good shot in there too. Like they, like it was, it was, and then, but then, Ram knows that those other two guys are, are in there. There's two makeable birdie or two. Almost like, I think one of them was almost a gimme birdie pot. Great. No, both of them were definitely like over 60 to 60. I think I had to put it. Okay. But it's got to have to put his outside the hole.

It was not like an easy. Yeah. Well, like, like Brooks, but like, Rob knows he has to get it there. No, he has to get it to the hole and just fucking buries it. And it's like, there's no, there's nothing sheepish or shameful about that, you know, it's just when the shot that he hit in there too. That was great. But when the pup was rolling, I was like, Oh, shit, he's open the door. Like because I don't, I did not know if if Brooks or Scotty was going to make the one that was birdie putts.

They were not, that was those new those with give me. So I was like, Oh my god, he's going to have six or eight feet coming back. And it just went vertical and dropped in the hole. Also, we're glossing over a hollains putt from like a difficulty standpoint. It was going to that match. Oh my God, that was a hard part. We can go match by match here. I mean, if we want to look in the afternoon, like starting with the JT

spieth match in the afternoon, but against a lot of golf of golf we watched that who Victor and Hatton. Victor and Hatton that match was just I mean, I watched almost all the back nine of that match followed it like I picked it up around 12 both JT and spieth are credited with birdies on those holes that they won that one. Spieth rolls in a 20 footer for birdie on 13 and it was like it was the first momentum shift. It felt like they were two up at that point. They flip over and Jordan speed did not hold didn't finish a hole after he made that birdie. He did not finish any of the

remaining five holes. That looks like our video Marcus Mone, which is where I come back to like, you know, challenge it. We put he was going to say it. Go get out there. Go see how that's going to go. He's going to watch it. Yeah. Speed. I'm not even going to hold my whole. He speaks like totally vacated himself for the remaining five holes.

JT's in the middle of 14 fairway and couldn't decide on a club to hit. And it was like, I was listening to the TV announcer before he hit the ball. He's like, this is too much in decision. This is not going to go well. Close it right. Makes Bogey there. Now they're only one up. But JT made a 10 foot sliding putt

down the hill on 15. Great moment from solid. We were sitting there behind 15. Great. He just looks at me like so defeated. He's like, hey, he's going to. I'm going to apologize for whatever JT does after he makes his fight. I'm so aware about this.

It's not going to be good. And said, and said, God, like, like, hey, that's why you haven't won the team. But be like, that was, it's just, he's so good at it, but it's also so cringe. Do you see? I got to say, I'm so fucking in on JT. That was a good looking. Looking at, looking at the rest of the team, especially. So it's like, dude, he's the only one that comes even close

to treating this event the same way that you're doing. I will not argue that whatsoever. It's so fun watching it. And can I set the scene for that? I don't know how much of this was on TV from what my mentions look like, probably not a lot. So we will get the hands on him. I'm excited for that.

I'm excited for that. It's the worst coverage I've ever seen in my life. So we will get there. Well, coming up to the green and Shane Lowry comes out there and is kind of standing behind us and the crowds are kind of excited. And let me be clear on this. This is totally fair game, like totally fair game. I'm slash like massive positive. I was this is what makes the writer cup fun, right? What I don't always enjoy whenever it was an American writer cup, just the total fake outrage over everything the Americans do. And if this happened with

the Americans, the British media would have a field day with it. But Jane Littleer excuse goes out on the green and is pumping up all the crowd getting everybody's so amped. And it carried on so long that they were still like, amped up when speed was hitting a shot. Now listen, speed was out of the hole probably. Like, like, like, JT and speed are trying to like calm the crowd down so he can like hit a shot. And so that, that sets the state. That's one. And then at JT's stand over the 10 footer. And there's a bug that flies around his ball. And he like, like, steps out there, steps off to wave the bug off the ball. And the whole crowd booze him. And so that's when he made the plot and turned to like, taunt the crowd. That's

where that came from. I can say this because the US hit a lot of balls in the water. The myth about European fans, not cherry would you. Busted many, many times today. Many, many, many times. Again, totally fun. Yeah. There were so many fun little hazards next to greens and in spots. I didn't even know that little creek was over there. That's sick. Nick, I just he noticed out of the some of them like when fits in more a cowable hit it OB on 14.

Like that. I was standing next to Fino and we were watching and he's like, oh my god. I got to know there was out about it. It's right to 14 like I was like, oh, yeah, bro. I got hit over there. Yeah, you got to avoid that.

That's got to be your head. So that match goes and. No quick. I thought, I thought, Speed played really well the first, first like 12 or 13 holes in this match. It was not like speed, like speed kind of carried the match for the first.

He made one of like four birdies in the first 12 holes. Uh, I think it was three. But he, I won four holes or something, but he was, he was much better than JT until JT sort of found his rhythm that made two straight birdies. And that's when the match sort of flipped for them.

It looked like it was going to be kind of what we've said about them. Like dude, it's not always like pretty, but like they truly make each other better. They ham and egg it better than anyone. Like that's what they, if you look at like their numbers, they weren't great. And they walked off, they walked off 13 green being two up. It was just like, yeah, dude, like they do this best player problem. Yeah, they do this is what they do, but it's really, really hard and foreball when you have to do it all on your own. Like it's just the final sequence was just absolutely brutal. JT missed a very makeable birdie on 16, 17 the birdie putt. He had a great shot in there when speed that already,

uh, no, yeah, and vacate himself. Yeah, but he was not in the conversation at all. That putt wasn't that easy. And then JT, it's two good shots into 18 and chips it to six feet. That chip was so hard. So, and that pin on 18. I don't know how well you can see on on TV, turn on a bit like that pin was like sitting on the top of like two different slopes. And everybody was leaving a short right. And you had to like, you had to hit this little low nippy putt that would run up to the top of the hill without running over that plateau into that backwater. And oh my God, was that a hard shot?

Jay-T broke both. Both hit. Brooks was in the crowd and did it. Oh, so hard. The chips that Jay-T hit down the stretch, like three of the last five or six holes, or some of the best chips I've ever seen. They were, they were some of you who had to like study his like stroke, gain stuff this year. He's actually been a truly top 10 player this year around the Greens. Like he's been, he's fallen off, driving, falling

off, putting, but he's like, absolutely like scrambling and stuff has been really, really good. He, I mean, it looks like he's trying to, he's, his game's still not fully there. And today, as the slowest I've ever seen in play, he's like truly trying to channel something. It's like, I'm just going to slow the game down. A couple of U.S. guys maybe need to get put on the clock, if I may say. And, but it, it, he was totally laboring out there and got the absolute most out of, kind of a scrappy dead that he could have. Dude, I mean, some of those chips were just like he was hitting these, these, like most

commitment I've ever seen somebody hit a chip with and just, like, trusting it to spin, trusting it to just, just absolutely cut the legs out from under it. It was fascinating. And then I will say on the chipping front too, had off to Hoveland. I mean, Hoveland, like, you're like, you're giving me the chip on one. The day start the day. It's insane. He so the first two holes, he almost chipped or susa. Yeah, it was the

first hole. Then it was I think the third hole, the second hole, he almost chips in again. He I was watching this thing on YouTube. The other day, it was talking about his like chipping technique and the guy who basically like remade his whole chipping technique. And it's we were talking about lunch and you guys were like, that's can't we were not going to talk to see about this because it's good. This could reinvent this whole game. Yeah. Well, that's behind the paywall.

We'll talk about it. But it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable like how confident he has suddenly become with a wedged in his hand, like using the bounce, like basically, you know, no forward shaft lean, just nipping it so perfectly. And the first, I think it set the whole tone for the rider cup when he chipped in. Oh, I'm not sure. His fist was pumping before that ball had touched the bottom of the cup. And he was going bonkers. And it was like, that was the, I think that was the biggest roar of the day. And it's just like,

Oh, this is dude has come to fucking play. I think also from like a Ludwig perspective. It's like, dude, I fucking got you, man. Yep. Yeah. I'm good. Like, you had a kind of nervous iron in the first, like, you know, I probably should have to put this away away from the whole. No, no, no, I'm going to just ship this in with like, nah, I got you 20 feet of break and we'll be fine. And T.C. Ludwig played totally fine. I'm not going to get over my skis. He played totally fine. The driver is as advertised. It's a fucking weapon, but I'll put his coin to. Yeah.

How one could have won that point with any of us as his partner today. I totally with you, but also like, you know, Ludwig did his part and didn't play his best golf, especially with his irons. Um, and, you know, he had three or four, like, like a really bad putt there that didn't get down the slope. And then tug the iron to credit to him, like, like compare him to what 90, 80% of the US team like, shitting the bed. And that like, it's not a given that you would play totally fine. He figured the putting out to he made some good clutch parts too. Oh, he made like three massive pots. I also think like he's he's coming for scouts tomorrow. Like Ludwig's going to he's going to fuck some people up tomorrow. He's going to I guarantee you he's going to play 36 holes. I'm fast enough to see who they

play him with in the afternoon. Ludwig's coming tomorrow guys. Mark, you know what I was thinking about was I know this is fairly obvious, but think about the energy, like the difference in, in energy or vibe or whatever between his afternoon and Ricky's afternoon, Harman's afternoon, Burns's afternoon where it's like, Hey, Ludwig, I know you say don't get nervous. You're probably pretty nervous. You're going out super early in a massive spot to go win a massive point. And he finishes and by lunchtime, it's like, Hey man, mission accomplished. You fucking did it. Go take the rest of the day off and just go think about how awesome you were versus the

US team of just like, Hey man, we really needed you and you totally fucking bonus. You sucked it for some Sprite Harman. You want to go do it again? Why don't you go back to the team room and just think like think about that for the next six hours, right? And how different that just I don't know. I know these guys are mental kind of freaks and they can get over stuff very quickly, but I don't think that can be ignored. Which like again, this is, you know, if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle, situation here, but what unfolds to end the day, but like, careful, don't get it. But listen, like, I get it was a total almost a total Medina

situation of like all the things that had to go wrong for this the the afternoon session to end two and a half, one and a half for Europe, all happened like it's a, like a true close to a miracle that all those went that way, five to three, which is how it should have been if the US would have taken care of business. Europe stole one of the points and and and Max and they made two 30 plus footers on the final green. They stole the still the wrong point. They stole those points for sure. And and Max and went to need to close that match out that that I won't say they stole that one. But five to three is such an interesting night.

Like tonight is super interesting. If it's five to three, and it's not that interesting. It's even before we get there, like Nikolai comes out. Oh, he's so good. Birdies five of his first eight holes in his fucking debut. Are you kidding me? You don't know what's great. I was standing next to a couple of the T-boxes. I followed that group

for a lot, a lot of the back nine. And we talked about this with Rory in the preview where it was like, man, how, you know, how much is Rory going to have to be like the babysitter and how much is he going to have to take the new guy and how much is he going to have to kind of like, you know, look go look after these rookies and does that take him away from being Rory and yada, yada, yada. And instead they put Rory with Fleetwood, which was just like, no, just go be Rory and like, this is probably our new, you know, one of our new like star pairings. Like you guys just go have a really fun time. I think Rom totally embraced the like quote unquote babysitter role. Like he's out there giving clubs to Nikolai. He's out there talking, talking them through shots and I don't know Nikolai's caddy at all. And I saw a small sample size,

but I think he was kind of along for the ride a little bit. I think I think it was Adam and John that were kind of like, Hey man, here's what we're doing. Here's your club. Go, go, hit it. When he went and did it at this time, that's what I'm saying. It was awesome. Yeah. It was great. Yeah. Props. Which again is, I know. Yeah, it was great. Yeah, props. Rob, which again is turn this remind me again. You take this. You take this. It's KVV. That's that's a great.

That's a great point. Like speaking of which like, Rasmus should be on this fucking team. And then we got Adrian do live in Card. It's just start. We got Albert Hansen coming. We got Vincent Norman coming. Got DC. They might never lose again. Yeah, I wouldn't feel yourself too much.

T.C. That was that was a once in a lifetime call you, man. I'm terrible. I just chased that one. I was talking to some of the Euro guys about it today. We got we got the horses truly in the back for this for this thing. We got well-rested guys going out tomorrow. Do you think you can do it?

I just see. And then I think Beth Page, I think I would run it back with LD. I really would. I think LD. You win, Beth Page. I do. Yes. Okay.

Unless it's just an absolute abortion of a setup, because I think Beth Page has the potential to be a generational stinker. I mean, that's, we, I thought we had about the course now. I thought we had a good conversation with Jamie Weir last night. He was almost ready to agree to it. Like, hey, why don't you just give us the victory at Beth Page. We'll run it back. Everybody, everybody stay home for safety reasons for a lot of morale. Everybody skip that. You just give us the win and then we go to a dare bed in 25. Yeah. Like we just skip the US one and just play it again back in 25. I think it's setting up for a dare man or to be like the goat like one of the

best riders of all time, which I'll I'll do this now. I I didn't put the hat on. Sure, I will put that I'll put the hat on for this. I gave a bit of a man of Coppa last night on Marco Simone, like a kind of a look. The design is still very much just okay. The set up Marco Simone was a striker for AC. Can I just do it one time? They send that on the radio today. It's crazy. No, it's named after a guy for the 50th century. Okay. The design is not brilliant, but I've been consistent on this to say like, I don't, you don't need architectural perfect. You know, I care about like architecture a lot more when in a stroke play event, right?

And like strategy and things like that. I want a good stage for a competition. Marcos Simone checks all the boxes. I think they should have another writer cup. I think it's freaking awesome viewpoints. The crowd noise is awesome. And I give credit to the Europeans, man, this is not a manipulated setup in any way.

Like there's no excuse making in any of this. Like they just flat out beat the US. I don't eat I there's nothing to complain about on the on the setup front. I thought The golf national was dull. I thought almost all of it was just dull. Just not fun golf to watch None of that afternoon the afternoon was exciting thanks to a a favorable setup to a setting up exciting golf shots Yeah, right? And I I can totally just a bunch of wedges, right? No, not well. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of like drivable holes and cool like risk reward and all that, like a lot of birdie opportunities out there. And I give full credit to that. And I think it's been a

really, the atmosphere has been way better than the golf national. It's been a way more fun event, even just getting your app as absolutely handed to you. So for all those who say I just make excuses about the golf course every time that's not the case here, it's COVID. There you go. Can I remove the hat? Yeah, that was great. That was great. Thank you. You're great. Clip that shit, TC. Yeah, I agree to May, but that's a whole other thing. No, you don't know. I was like, oh, it's not that good, but who cares? It's fine. All right, let's keep going through the matches. Let's keep going through the matches. We saw Mark of in tournament condition. That's what it was alarming.

It was like, whoa, they just played the Italian open on this. This is miserable. But can I share a quick story about Big Bob, Big Chat Bob? That's a perfect T.C. It is. I could not be more disappointed after I've got this one. Peacocking and wanting to be on this team more than anybody on the planet.

And then granted he got you got settled with team Rose out there. But Bob, I don't want to see you until Sunday singles. Get the fuck out. Wow. Okay. Well, this is a little bit of a different story. No, he's need to not play great. But he was in the press conference. He's got that great Scott is accent at which I will not do. But he was basically saying, I thought about that T shop for two months straight. And I just was absolutely like completely obsessed with it. I typed it. Yeah,

and he absolutely piped it. And he was like, this is why I play golf. This is the whole reason why I play golf right here. This moment. And like between him and Rose, like talking about, you know, Rose pointing to people, I was like, God, there's so much more likeable. So they're just so much more likeable. They, they're willing to share in those that way that makes you kind of like hold them in. I mean, just I've never

thought Justin Rose was likeable. And yet in that moment, I was like, I have to like, it's yeah, I totally would pull. If you were the Ryder Cup captain in their manner, you're probably going to, you know, only play for you coach. Yeah. Yeah. Run through a wall for you too. I feel so bad going after Bob. I do because he's my guy.

Big, you know, I was hoping he was going to turn into big knob, Bob today. And he's my favorite obonite. I love the people up and open. And some open eyes just off of the ear that he just didn't, he just didn't bring it, man. Like he's just like, he's just not on this level. I don't think he's a very, very good European tour player. I don't like, he just didn't raise his game. Like I thought, I thought the heart. I thought Bob's got all that dog in him. I didn't see the dog today. I didn't. Well, will you apologize to me on that one then? I feel like that's exactly what I said.

That he's telling that level. Oh, thank you too. Yes, makes my day. Oh, yeah. I thought I was just talking to the guys about it. You know, I talked to some other guys that are on the Euro team about it. And they're like, yeah, man, like, you know, statistically,

he's not there. Wow. So we can send our own data. Hopefully they're in bed now, not listening. Who is the mole? Can I tell you a quick quick story? I forgot to, I should have mentioned this earlier, but after I've won of the huge pups that you're made, I guess I'm probably just in rows at the end. I or big scrum there afterwards and kind of from pretty far away, like 30 to 40 feet away. I don't know if he was seeking me out or what,

but I locked eyes with Rory and I just kind of made a face like, I don't know, man. And he just, he just, like, I kind of nudged his wife out of the way a little bit and just did the full, like, Santa's cell. Cone, he's moved right at me. That's, that was like the Vince Carter part. Like, I was saying, this marks two out of the last four runner cup that Rory has trolled you Derring the actual matches. Yes, so I was happy to see Rory and Tommy. That was really fun. That was joyous. That was joyous. I'm a two and two no worries. Rory's good for it. Can we talk about Fitsy? Yeah, yeah. Yes. I mean, he he blacked out six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six. I think setting one last text on 50 is like he like talking to people who he's talked to or hearing him reading between the lines, whatever. I think he's been internally fucking screaming.

Let me play my own lead please for the love of God. Let me play my own ball. So this is his first time he's played four ball at the rider cup. He has a winless record, right? And he goes out and he's six under three six with an eagle, right? And it's like, oh my God, that's, that's, that's, that's back in it up big dick stuff. Yeah, he sent his presser. I was like, yeah, I made it clear to Patrick that I really want to play my own ball and didn't happen. And he's like, this Luke's communication has been really great. If there's one thing he's been really great is communicating to us.

God, that was an ass beating. I can't believe that. If Luke, like Luke should, Luke should basically go from this. You should run for office in the UK. You should fix Brexit. He's straight up. He's straight up. He looks labor is he.

I don't know. He might be, he might be. He might be, he might have a ball of party. It's might be just exactly. He's a great communicator. He's inspirational. I loved his interviews today. And like guys, I'm to the point where I'm I'm going to call a lifetime truce with team Rose. I will never

have a bad word about team Rose ever again. Love you. That's easy. That's bad. My shot into 17 today was was among the best I saw all day. The put on 18, you know, well, it was, I think he was an absolute seed that he hit off the tee on 18 that shouldn't have done in that bunker. And yeah, that's that fair was not good. We need to talk about the slow motion car crash. That was the, the 18th. Oh, yeah. In that last match because that was, that was when them hit maybe back to 17. Then, yeah. So, well, even going back to 16, like, the shop Bob led him off the hook. He drove the green, but then three inexplicably three-putted par. That was probably the toughest scene for,

for Bob. And then Mac steps up. I didn't see this shot, but I heard it on the radio. I heard it. It was just like, here, the shot and just here. Fuck. Like he hooked it into the water left of 17, which is not close. It was in that moment where you just can't miss left there. Like anywhere on the right, you're probably going to make a par. You're at least going to make them make a birdie to beat you. Hooking that shot left is pretty bad. And then when them had to basically hit it right, just to give them a chance at, you know, getting up and down there. That was a tough, tough moment. So they bogie that whole rose pars it. And so now they go, all right, it's one, one up playing the 18th hole. Wyndham, Max blows one way right has to lay up and Wyndham

absolutely threaded a huge drive. He had like 225 in on this on this, on this 245 in 40. Yeah, something and probably a six iron going down that hill. Any cold fucking shanked it like they did absolutely shanked it in the 72nd fairway and or 18th fairway, whatever you want to call it, the final hole of a match. Like all you had to hit that green side and two put it and that's not difficult for a golfer of that level. And you think that shank would have found the fairway at Ellie at least he's not. I it feels the same thing my man and I was I was so peacocking. I almost said that to you to where it's just like man what vindication on all the 72nd hole bullshit you know it steps up that's

probably the best drive I've like I saw a day he played really well. So that's that's a bit of a ton of birdie. That's the hard part, right? Also, I'm kind of shocked. Windom's not going out to one. Same. I know. Yeah. He birdied the fifth hole. He birdied the seventh hole. He birdied nine birdied 11 birdied 12 birdied 13 birdied 16. Yeah. That's playing. I think if you're Zach and you're sending out your best guys tomorrow morning, like your guys that are going to get you back into this thing. I have a hard time believing that wind and Clark's not not one of those guys. What the fuck are they doing? T.C. They're

sticking to a plan that's been. Oh, Brian Harman's got to play. You know, for herb stomp today, like maybe the plan should change. All right. Why why we? I listen. I think Zach is a like you guys know my stance on Zach. I think I don't think Zach should ever be allowed to even be an assistant captain. Ever again, he might have to move out of C Island after this. I was thinking about this to T.C. Like strikers right there, like walking with them, making decisions for couples is there. It's not like it's diversified.

It's not like the captain C where Zach is like saying, oh, we got to do this guys. Like I'm overruling that they're all not confident. The successful captains, Davis Love is walking with it, riding with those matches. They're all like communicating and making these decisions together. It's just really that they're getting their ass kicked. That's where I'm like, these guys have proven themselves before. It's not like they're incapable of it. Just as total bullshit. I think task force is total bullshit. I think they've been crowned by, by having better players.

I've seen many wins. Long time. Too many wins. And they've said, oh, we figured this out. I don't know. You even figured shit out. Go win one more soil. Big day for big week for soil. People love

mentioning the soil. And how was it this afternoon? Was it high? It got pretty hot. Yesterday was worse. Yeah, it was probably mid 80s. They were starting to talk about high creation levels and all that sort of thing. Yeah. Do you want to talk about the pro? Sure. You saw a lot of them today. I watched a lot of them this morning. I didn't watch a ton of the afternoon.

This morning I thought he was pretty solid. I thought he hyped his T-shirt on one. I know that's like a very fun, you know, it's like clearly a three wood and everybody except for our hit driver on number one in that morning session. But I thought he had from head three wood out and switched the driver.

Yeah, I thought a lot of guys were, I don't know, I thought Max played pretty well. I think he was carrying Harman around in the morning. And I think Wyndon might have been carrying him a little bit in the afternoon, although Max did apparently hit the stick on 16 out of the bunker. We never saw it on the TV coverage, but Azinger sort of let us know, oh, by the way, we don't have any footage of this, but Max almost hold out for Eagle off the stick. And I have a feeling that's going to take us into our next topic unless you have more you want to know. No, I was just going to say the 18 things tough.

I think that was, but realistically, like a good putt, not a good t-shot, but got to make it pretty good wedge in there and a pretty good putt, but it's still a 12 15 footer. I mean, it's, you know, it's not like it's an auto make, but I see what I do tomorrow. Yeah, like very keen. I'm sorry. T.C. as a kid. Hold on. I got one second. I need one thing. You guys kind of move past it, but Fitsy, absolutely incredible day. I know you guys said that, but I want to talk a little bit about the glow up from last writer cup with I understand all the swing speed, training and everything else like that. But the dude is absolutely like pounding it out there. It's so impressive to see the braces somehow are gone.

We talked about braces last night, don't a picture. But between him and Hovlin's short game, like the work that he's doing with Joe Mayo, these dudes are just like, they're vibing their absolute faces off. And you wanna talk, I know we talked about like, the biggest difference here is

they're just fucking getting outplayed. And it goes back to Wyndham's comments about like, this rust and like, oh, not the rust, but like maybe them being gas because they all played went worth and everything else like that. It just makes them sound so fucking silly.

And TC brought it up about like prep before a major championship. If you're gonna treat this like a big boy event, like I know the guys are all playing at home but playing under competition is a hell of a lot different than playing it, you know, still relief for fucking Jupe National or Panther Lake, whatever. Panther.

Panther National. My first ever Ryder Cup leadership. Yeah. I love, I love on a like Thursday of a Ryder Cup, like going out on the course and when it's most like the fans are kind of filtered out and it's mostly all done and seeing who's out there still. And I remember at Hazelteen, it's Fizzy's first rider cup.

He was so nervous and was so felt so lost. And he was like nervous about being around people that like he and his Caddy went on like one of the holes on the course instead of the driving range so that he could work on driver because he was just like like shaking. And that's always been one of my favorite memories about like what the rider cup does to people. I was part of why I thought all this talk of like Ludwig will handle it super fine. He'll be totally like and see Fitsy come like full circle from that moment of being looking like a scared little kid in Hazel team to basically being like, yeah, I'm going to go out and

birdie like five or the first six holes and then make an eagle to. Roy, I'll let you know if I need you. That was really kind of cool. And Fitz is just such an interesting, like, you know, he always gives such thoughtful answers. I think he's a pretty genuinely nice person. I love asking him questions. I love hearing him answer them. He's just a smart dude.

And to see someone, he obviously bugged him a lot that he was, you know, at Ben and his Ryder cups and had laid an egg and he'd get all the guy bunches of shit from the English press for it. And now that's off his back, which is awesome. Totally agree. I think also just like seeing the swing speed, like you said, Cody, I mean, it's almost like this, like the swing speed that that Victor is generating and the commitment with the driver, it's a similar look with what Fitz is doing as well.

I also want to shout out Phil Kenyon because Scottie's putter looked a lot, a hell of a lot better. Yeah, Scottie played well. It felt like, yeah, he made it. He made it. He made it. Yeah, Fitz and Rory let them, like I was hoping they were gonna end that by like 10 or 11 and then.

Yeah, I don't know how that made it to 15. Hunter rests this up and then basically say, all right, like we don't even how that made it to 15. I'm gonna rest this up and then basically say, all right, like we don't even have to rest for Roy tomorrow because I'm super keen to see who Luke rests tomorrow afternoon. If he does, you know, Rory or Tom or, you know, whomever, but like they kind of let him hang around for a while there, it was weird, right?

Can we go through pairings for tomorrow? If you have them, Cody, I don't have them handy in front of me, but the U.S. is doing some very similar things. Match one tomorrow, McAroy and Fleetwood against speed and JT. Woodwalk. I'm going to watch match. I'm going to, I'm going to probably watch that. It seems like a great match.

Hovlin and Ludwig Ulberg. I don't know how to say it now. I've been more confused as ever to have to say it, Scottie Sheffler and Brooks Keppka. Listen, we'll watch that too. That's a very nice match. Shane Lowry and Sep Strocka against Max Homa and Brian Harmon. Can we pause?

Can we double click on that one a little bit? Why is Harmon going back out? I don't know what I don't. Again. Who's daring that's sitting? Wind him. Yeah, I don't know why wind him. I don't know what I don't again. Yeah. Who's daring that's sitting? Wind him. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know why wind him. I don't know. And so sitting is more a cava wind him. Oh, what's the last match? So last match last match is ramen hot and and can't lay in Shoffley. So Ricky, what happened to the max calling like magical paring?

So what happened to the max calling like magical pairing? Colin is somebody we haven't mentioned yet who was listing today. Not not not his best golf today. It's calling ever going to be great again. I know it's like a sample size of giant, make the rider cup and the sweeping things, but like I don't know. It hasn't been really good for quite a while. He's he's not had great finishes. It's like statistically and nobody likes this stuff, but statistically is best here. He's

been his most consistent like in his approach place to really get it. He just not had the peak weeks at all to like have any memories of any kind of this past year. And he's not at the major championship moments. That's what like his major championship moment still stick out like a sore thumb of like, whoa, dude, like where where to fuck did that come from, right? Because you do not do this on a consistent basis. But he was great. Obviously, Wilson Straits. And again, it's just like, I, if you're, if you're ZJ, I just don't, I don't know what the

captains can do about more of how well I'm playing awful today. I don't think it OB on 14. Yeah. If you were paired with so and so, you would have played better. I, I don't, I struggled with that a lot. I think there's a lot of things you can do to get guys in a position to play well. And a lot of those things are stuff that like the task force is taking really seriously. Like, hey, yeah, we're not going to, if you don't like want, like,

you're in charge of kind of your own schedule in a lot of ways for the week, right? If you don't want to like do something, you don't want to do a million galas and all that. If you want to get your rest, if you don't want to be at the course at 7 a.m. when you're only playing the afternoon, you don't do a million galas and all that. If you want to get your rest, if you don't want to be at the course at 7am when you're only playing the afternoon, you don't have to. That's their way of doing it. It's very different than Europe's way, but their way of trying to set it up is how do we make each of our guys the most comfortable they possibly can be? So there's no excuse for the players to play poorly anymore.

You're not forced to, of course, you got to do some stuff with Ryder Cup, but you're not forced into doing the same, all the exhausting stuff that maybe you once were forced to do. All the team building events and makes everything that the Euro team, you know, comes together and forms this cohesive bond. Yeah, you should sit in your hotel room by yourself, man, with we'd love that. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, but also like one of them are showing up to do, I don't know, like all 12 guys on the European team

showed up to one worth to play. Guys flew over to play and check or play and Swiss like there's there's leadership there of America are not same organization and like dudes are exhausted and this is not an excuse but the the writer cup is at a very convenient time for Europeans that have their two weeks after their flagship event and not the most convenient time to have it a month after the end of the FedEx cup playoffs. I think man I feel like I've seen enough in that like Europeans just carry more about this fan straighter. Oh, I think I think that's I think that's a big part of it. In Cody, I think that speaks to your thing is like they get here and like the galas and the team building and the bus rides are not an inconvenience. They're like a fucking privilege. They treasure this. And and for the US to fall back on like, oh, well, the reason we lost is because we're I can't work out at nine. I have to work out at seven. So why I want to bring Kagan Bradley?

Is what? Yeah, buddy. I just don't think that would help. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do cared so much that it would have pissed off everybody else even more. Like it would have been bad. Yeah. But I think that we literally and though that we left we they left three of the best drivers in the world at home. Bryson, Cam Young and King and Bradley. You can say, oh, well, there's never they were never going to take Bryson. That's fine. I understand. But that's dude. That's the facts. Okay. They thought that it was going to they thought they could outthink it. Not one of the

best drivers in the world. Absolutely. He is. He's hitting it straight and accurate. That in terms of length. Yes. I would put I would put money on Keegan versus half the guys on this team to drive the ball well and and hit these dog legs and do weird shit there. You know, Cam Young's same thing, right? If they'd left Harmon at home, I know he's an automatic qualifier. If they let Harmon at home, people would be saying that right now,

like, and Harmon just laid a fucking accident. You don't know. You don't know. I'm just saying that. But that's the craziest part to me is like, they're trotting along. I don't know. Right back out there tomorrow,

all of the discussions that we had about JT, the endless content, the two columns that I wrote should have been about Sanvers. I really think that he should not have been on this team. And I think that that did not it like Scotty needs a security blanket that badly. Like I what has Sam done? I mean, played pretty well on the president's couple. What did he do this season to deserve to be on this team? One match play. I think he played well on the president's cup, but went Owen, you did play well in the

party and the fucking four sons. I think I can get to I'm not refuting that take at all, but also sandburges like not the dude that we saw today. Sandburges is still a fucking good professional golfer. And that guy looked like

a totally different person. And that's inexplicable. This one is right. I knowable. This won't play golf. T.C. I know this won't play, but like it's still remains something over here. A fact that it's not a boys club thing of like the reason why San Bernard's on this team. Like there was a lot of people that have put a lot of thought and a lot of effort into it. And a lot of decision making going into like, Hey, this guy gives us this option because of this, this, and this. Him playing horrific golf today. Like, again, you make this decision, what, in early September, and he showed up and was not ready to play golf.

I agree, but that's, you gotta realize how frustrating it is to be like, okay, show us the stats. Oh, that's proprietary. You can't do that. Okay, well, what the, how do we not sell these MBAs locked in the club? Oh, sorry, that's proprietary. We can't show that information. We just have to trust us that Sam Burns was the best guy to bring. And I think what's so, it's gotta be so frustrating. What's so sick about that too is all that data

is based on his play at the Valspar and his play at the, I'm good at the Valspar. And his play at whatever went up. And this is what I was trying to say, like to you and Porter, when we were standing by the range the other day, it's like, dude, I got no qualms with any of the calculations.

I got no qualms with any of the data. I got no qualms with any of this. Also none of these guys have played a Ryder Cup in Europe. Like what if they just fucking suck? Yeah. Granted, that's why I'm just working through some feelings. All right. Let me.

What's your name again? My daughter's name is Kagan. Nine years ago, Kagan and Phil threw up a stinker on the opening day in four So it's like again, there's just no guarantee with any of it. It's back up quarterback syndrome I think of all all golf fans of like the 13th man on the team. It's uncapered it 13th man would have gone three. What a I mean, I think Gordon Sargent Could be on the team versus some of the guys.

So many of them I mentioned saying they should have brought Tom Kim, which was a very good bucket of T.C. Got to call that. He's more American than a lot of these people. Again, I don't know if Kegan Solves Zayet are going to go in two today. Like, I know, but I see that you're going to be that hard. If you're going to be that hard on Burns, you got to talk about Ricky too, because I think you say, Oh, well, your pins care more, whatever. No, you're really fucking. You're totally

really cares. You wanted this more than anything. But I think you need to like, nah, which could be a problem for Keegan, right? Care about the other shit. And then this stuff comes with it. Yeah. I mean, guys, I'm really keen to see tomorrow, who cares when it's like, you know, 11 to, you know, whatever, 11 to four and a half or 11 to five. And these guys are getting fucking boat raced. You know, they're out there tomorrow afternoon. Yeah. You know, I think what's interesting about the key, you're, you're selling me on the spirit of the key gun argument in that like I'm with you and that like he would have been a totally different person than a lot of the guys

that we saw today. He would have been more fired up, he would have been more into it, he would have more locked into all the whole, more bought into the whole thing, I think. But what does it say about like the US team that like you almost don't have enough critical mass of Keegan's to like flip things in that direction

because you have to cater to having more of like the other guys. You know what I mean? And you know, I don't think inserting kegans into that helps. And you can't keep me into it, but I think everybody else would kind of be like, yeah, I don't want to play a kegans. You can't love how the euros do. They need to throw the fuck up. That's what I'm saying. That's like, where the fuck do we go from here? Because he's, I'm just the anti-kegans argument. But because he's, I, I, is he just the anti-Keykin argument. Baffling to me.

You can't love what the euros do and then be like, Keegan and Bryson should be on the US side of the team. Like that's what you can't do. Like, there's a, there's a genuine love amongst guys in that team room. And like, I do, the dude that sued the tour and I do the, I don't like, like, doesn't, I get, doesn't it? Nobody liked Victor DeBoison. They fucking figured it out. What about DJ?

I figured it out. They played really well. That's they. What about DJ? I don't know. Yeah. Maybe guy guys Bryson would have struggled because the coefficient of restitution on these on these pins. I know. It's crazy. I know. It's crazy. When five and O last year, I don't think easy would have been at this. I don't think so.

I've seen a lot of DJ sloppy Europe writer Ryder Cup stuff and this would not have gone well for him today. The Keegan thing, like the souped up version of the Keegan thing would be like putting Billy Horschl in the team room. I'd say he would, he was super care. He was a better player than Billy Horschl's physically and he proved it this year. Yeah, he had a season literally that was kind of close to what Ricky showed and Ricky's fucking sucked today.

Ricky has sucked in Ryder Cubs over and over and over again. He should not get them melting down. This is so sick. Cause it's a boy club. And the whole record. He can did not have a season like Ricky did to. They did too. He did too.

It was similar. This is how I envisioned it. You guys team room. He can head. He can head seven top 20s. Ricky had 16 top 20s. Are we going to do stroke's game? Because that's what it was before. We was like point two worse than you. We can head. He can head seven top 20s. Ricky had 16 top 20s. Yeah. Are we going to do stroke game?

Because that's what it was before. We were like point two worse than you. We can do that one too. It's point five worse. I get it. It's not. I was worried about Ricky. I don't know how many wins it, Rick.

Have one. You had one. You can have two wins. You had one this year. Oh, it doesn't count. Then the other wind doesn't count. The wraparound season. You want to count it?

I win 12. Again, if we're if we're trying to like win a win three months months ago, doesn't count for anything. None of it counts for anything. You all right. All right. All right. All right. One guy. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. One guy that is going to stop. Stop. One guy that we are disappointed that did make the team that should have and you guys don't give enough credit. Cam Young, but he did make lots of appearances today via commercials. TC hamster, damn, what do you got? Yeah, real quick, real quick. First of all, I want to shit on the Europeans outfits today.

I thought the uniforms were awful. Somebody said they look like the- Did you see the little touch of the little touch of burn orange for big techs on the sleeves? Somebody said they looked like the 2008 Curacao Little League World Series team. No. No.

No. No. No. Also, I'm told this just coming in across the wire. Allegedly, the reason can't lay is not wearing a hat is he's, that's his protest for not getting paid.

He's pissed that the PGA of America's making so much money. That makes sense. I think it's got a three-line. Yes. Yeah. Let's listen for the, well, you're about to go down. I'm okay with all the PGA hopes and everything else that fucking the money goes to. So you can fuck off. So all right. I hope I hope he I hope can't like Sue like Reed tried to sue everybody. Again, this is all alleged. When this hit the court, all of us suits where it's independent directors of this company. The other four are not on board with DC's takes. I can't emphasize enough how, how malignant Cantley is though. You're going to go hamstered hamstered hamstered ham. I'm not a big fan of the thing. I'm not a big fan of the

thing. I'm not a big fan of the thing. I'm not a big fan of the thing. I'm not a big fan of the thing. I'm not a big fan of the thing. I'm not a big fan of the thing.

I'm not a big fan of the thing. I'm not a big fan of the thing. I'm like, I know you see it. And then Faxon's now trying to argue on there that on Twitter or X or whatever we're calling it these days that you see did you? To exercise. It's the world feed and da da da da. You know what guys?

I watched the world feed all afternoon. And the world feed was all wall wall wall wall. Guys Tommy Roy might be the the long lost son of the Roy family because he's he is fucking in net. I mean, we were this is gross, gross incompetence. They lost track, complete track of the second match in the course this morning at one 30 a.m. after I woke up. Like everybody's hyped, hyped this morning. They lost track of the course and like

there's three groups on the course. There's six balls out there and they just totally lost track. We're not seeing any of the approaches on two and three. No, like, like, there's no context whatsoever. There's squeezing commercials. I had people track in commercials all day. This and that. We're seeing half as many shots on US TV as, as on Sky. So that's a, that's a bona fide fact. We saw 80%.

So, all right. So going back to looking at the matches this morning. We saw 63 of 113 shots in match one. This is not this is taking concessions out of the mix. We saw 58 of 116 shots in match two. Only 50 of 132 shots in match three and 82 of 126 in match four. Guys, we saw seven golf swings in the Fienau, Anika, uh, middle of the bag. Stage Street ETFs commercial. We saw that commercial five times. We saw 35 swings from Onica and Big Tone. We saw 50 shots. We saw 50 shots in that entire fucking match. So that means we saw more

swings today of Onica and Big Tone than we did of Shane Lowry and Substrocka. Like that's, that's incredible. So that's not to the researcher that you had, I saw you asking to put out the call to the big head. I scored different researchers. I gave him some, it's been like a thousand dollars in shop credit

to get this done. I mean, I was talking to the rich. It was pretty. Riggs was, Riggs was talking to a rich. It was pretty. Riggs was pretty much about it. Riggs was all over it. Like, dude, I'm right there with you. And it's not just the commercials, man.

It's like the actual flow and storytelling. Like, and I feel bad for Hicks and Ganon and Byron and all these guys, because it's a fucking mess. I mean, they're not being put in a position to succeed. There's no flow. There's no narration. There's no nothing. They're missing.

They missed speech chip in. It's a bismill and they can't blame it on the world feed because the world feed's showing all this stuff. It's just Tommy Roy choosing the wrong stuff. The guy is fucking washed up. It's Commercial and commercial. Commercial.

Yeah. He's totally hamstung by that. And that I'm going to go a totally different direction with this. I got a hand at the NBC and golf channel. Like to hear like a decades worth of complaints which I had boy and just be like, I'm going to go. I'm going to pull. I can't pull over any harder. I'm going to go. I'm going to fuck you guys even harder. I'm going to go. I'm going to amp it up even a over any harder. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna fuck you guys even harder. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna amp it up even a little bit more. You can't get more mad, you're already maximum mad. You're a hostage audience, you cannot go anywhere else

to watch this. We've bought the rights. Why wouldn't I just slam a bunch more commercials in it? Tell me why I wouldn't, please tell me why I wouldn't. I'm gonna try to make more money off this. But it's crazy. Solly, like they're not even, like I get I get the commercial stuff. I get that.

But there's more commercials when they get all eight matches out there. And like in that kind of prime time, you know, like that, that core like two and a half three hour window, they load more commercials into that. And then and then all and then half these matches ended early. And they're just backfilling time on the back end. It's, whereas like I'm talking to people over in the UK and sky is going 25, 30, 35 minutes sky zone by Comcast. What's the difference? I'll pay for fucking pay per view for this. I'll pay for a red zone type channel. I'll pay for, for whatever you want me to pay for, I will pay for it. But I think that's so well. A number of people.

I think that's where the housing cards falls apart because a number of people won't, right? And that's where like their, their biggest gamble is just like, oh my God, network TV people can just turn on channel five and we're going to get massive, massive ratings. I think why do you think they've never published PJ tour live numbers? Like I just, I don't think people will pay. I think I think we'll pay. I think we'll pay. I think the, I think the people who got up at 130 will pay, but I don't think that comes even. But they don't need to be rolling in any any sort of puff piece, any sort of feature bullshit.

Any pre-pre-stuff in the middle of the night. When I think that's a fixable part of it. I'll say this as a someone who's been in these sort of like editorial type meetings. That's what they should do away with because there's no added value to that. They're trying to sort of appeal to a broader audience where it's like, hey, your wife is going to want to watch or you're someone who won 30 in the more doesn't really pick up that or you're trying to please your creative team who's like, hey, I don't really want to just call golf shots. I want to do something that's more interesting, got soft feature here myself. That's got to go because that's ruining part of the product. That's just pissing off the people who are actually watching it. We're

actually going to watch by the shit off your commercials with guys. commercial windows, you have time for that with the current could load. They have no time for that. Not there's only there's only eight balls on the course. T.C. I'm not I'm not going to hold on hold on hold on. Eight balls on the course. And they're basically doing this thing where they go.

They go seven eight nine minutes. Give or take some of golf. And then they go two and a half to three minutes of commercials. That's the cadence all morning, all day. That's the cadence, right? They showed 60% of the golf shots from, from, from, from, from, sorry,

from eight balls on the course this morning. So like that's just show more fucking golf shots. It's not that hard, like more quick cuts, more, just they were moving around so help or skelter and they can blame it on the world feed all they want, but it's not the world feed. Or, or then fucking invest in it and send your own camera people

and treat it like it's a product you give a shit about. It's disgusting. There's there's not even enough like they can't even tell where the balls are going. There's not even enough guys. As far as on-course commentary, there's no spotters. There's nobody telling them where these fucking balls are going. No, I don't think that's right. I think that I think there are on-course guys with every group. I just don't think they have time to go to those guys because they're like so far behind because of the commercials. Because NBC does not run, they don't like CBS,

like has Colt Nose and Doddy like walk around with monitors. So when they, when there's shots on tape, they call it on tape. Yeah, I did. So I'm, for the audience, I'm saying like, so when you, when they get so far behind, they don't have anyone to like add any context to anything because the shots already happen and they're pretending like it's live. And so they have the world feed playing at the right cup golf

is fucking exciting. In the, I couldn't even keep up with all the things that were going on. I want like my eyeballs are moving around in different matches. I'm trying to peek over hills to see different matches because I can hear and see what's going on on the screens and all that it is so action-packed and exciting and I've never I was barely even on like reading mentions on Twitter day. That was the most hostile I've ever seen any reaction to anything at any point in all of this, which is saying so much because it's such a pathetic display on a week to week basis. This is supposed to be one of the premier events in the world of golf and the world sports. I think what's so frustrating though is CBS gets it does it better, right?

They make it work. They don't. Yes. We'll fill people with rage on a daily basis. And it's just an NBC is like, Hey, we, I learned this in newspapers. It's like, Hey, we can cut this to the bone and we can still make a profit and you're fucked either way because either want to read the daily news or you don't. And're going to bet on the fact that out of habit you still will. And that's the NBC's business model right now. It's like, Hey, you think you got somewhere else to go? You don't

like the red guys. What are you going to watch? I can't lose that. Guys, that's the thing. In that eight or nine minutes, I can't tell you how poor the production was and how poor the directing was within those eight or nine or ten minute blocks of There's no there's no coherence whatsoever. They're not they're doing such a poor job and gave you a year point I looked up today Brian Roberts the CEO of Comcast is a member at Seminole MacArthur loss tree Let's see where else here. Los Angeles Country Club. Cypress Point.

I'm a farther Cypress Point. L.A.C.C. Pine Valley and Marion. These are clubs and memberships that espouse to give a fuck about the game of golf, generally speaking and specifically speaking, they host Walker Cups, they host, you know, Curtis Cups, they host USGA events. Comcast does not give a fuck about golf. Brian Roberts shame on you, shame on you.

This is it is disgusting. What you are doing. Should it be banned from those clubs? Do you see this might be your best legal argument ever? Your honor. I afforded your comments to throw shipping at your university. I like, I'm so fired up. It is, it is. I mean, like, I looked all that up just on the gin app today, but it's have some pride, have some self-respect. The, I would say the members of those clubs call him out when you see him in the grill room, when you see him in the bar, when you see him on the first tee.

Fuck these people, man, it's shameful. It's disgusting, I'm serious. I wasted eight hours on my fucking morning, just, with my dick in my hand this morning on the couch. It's it's it's unbelievable. So I'm glad you enjoyed the world for you. The one thing to add the TC not a lot that he's missed there, but the issue that they have producing and specifically directing wise is that the graphics on screen.

So what they would do is that they had the little match tracker or down at the bottom right that would update before they even showed the fucking shot. So kind of spoiler alert, like constantly for people. Again, people are waking up awfully early in the morning, die hards. That's clearly stated. I don't know why we're going to USA, but we're going to the USA Network and we're firing it up and we just beat over the fucking head. It is, it's, it's criminal. I mean, house ads, PGA works ads, all sorts of shit. It's like, I'm already watching the fucking Ryder Cup guys. You've got me hooked in. All right, it's, it's 2.30, it's 3am. Just show me the fucking golf. I don't need to see blocky for the fourth time. Come on. Make plays. It just might, it just might be fundamentally broken. Like, I don't even see blocky for the fourth time. Come on. Make plays.

It just might, it just might be fundamentally broken. Like, I don't think there's like an away to fix it. It's, it doesn't mean we should stop like talking about it. Only thing would be to get LD in the truck tomorrow, maybe T.C. Bring these people together. It, uh, honestly, part of the reason why I made sure I had come to this. I, I couldn't, I couldn't sit and watch on TV, right? It's just like American golf on television

has gotten to that point. Like, imagine if, again, there's plenty of reason to like get mad at the American team and dislike the American team on its own. But like, imagine like trying to root for this team and also like watching this product on TV just how uncontrollably upset you would get. Like, if you were actually a fan of this team,

like what reason would you have to do this? Shout out to Cody. Yeah. It'd be fun morning. Thank you. So you're a fan of like one of these players, or like you're like, I'd be pissed if I was the PGA tour even.

The fact that all of these are broadcast on the world feed and there's not some sort of pay-per-view red zone option is wild. It's crazy to me. So many people are like, well, just get a VPN or like, it's like, all right, cool. All right, I pay, I pay for USA. I pay for peacock premium. Why is that? A lot of shallow related group thing on, on, you know what? I, there is. There is believe me, they, they, they chose the worst groups of the day to put it on there. And then basically, like, it was like a total afterthought. I am going. So I have,

I have 18 T fiber in my office and I have calm cast in my house. I'm going to cancel my calm cast after this week. It was that bad. I'm going straight to YouTube TV and all that shit. Court cutting. Welcome. Court, poor, poor gasoline on it. Brian Roberts, you are a disgrace, a disgrace. We take a standard principle TC. Not a lot of people will affect their own lives with their stands, but you, you will. Hell yeah.

I'm really sorry. I've probably given up some invites here, you know? I don't know if I'm ever going to some invites here, you know. I don't know if I'm ever going to put this headset out again. I'm a man of faith. Driving 11th of a Castillanos. There's another white, white Brian Harman wayer left. Brian Roberts baseball player too. Literally, we're making a four ball game.

So tired of it. I'm so tired of it. Like it's like I woke up it went to bed at 6 p.m. last night. Oh, fresh for this. Okay. I took like I cup of brewed a pot of coffee, all that. And I'm just sitting there and I'm like, this is unbelievable. Like they've already lost the plot. And there's like the second, the second group's not even into the third T. What are we doing? It's crazy. Yeah. Guys, what are we excited about tomorrow morning, huh? First match. That's about all I got for you. Again, like it's probably I feel really bad. Like I'm excited. I had a lot of fun.

The afternoon session was the probably the most fun I've had at any writer. Hazel team was really fun. In recent writer cups, the most fun session of any. I could the tension was very real. I couldn't even spit. It was really, really exciting. And I truly feel bad. I can't even like pretend like for people to get excited about watching this tomorrow morning,

like, based on what we just heard. Like it, it's not going to be better. It's going to be the same exact thing and it just fills you with rage. Like, it's not a good investment of your time. Like, it's a great morning to wake up it. If you want to wake up at six and fast forward through everything, it, you'll be caught up like really quickly, really quickly. I can't tell you how funny it up at six and fast forward through everything, you'll be caught up really quickly, really quickly. I can't tell you how funny it was at, let's see, what time was this?

It was roughly 10, 14 p.m. local time here, 10, 14 p.m. Getting a text from Big Randy, saying, I successfully avoided screens all day. I just saw the sweep in the morning. Unbelievable. One word. She was like, that might be the only play, man. Just DVR. Yeah. Socks were like live sleep and record it. Enjoyed live. I went to sleep. You've had to have about 17 minutes from like three. I think from like three 30 to five I went to sleep for 90 minutes I like went back to bed woke back up at five and it took me like 18 minutes to fast forward through everything it was it was crazy and and and and like all the brits too like I'm telling you

Comcast they're absolutely gonna come for your feed they're gonna come for your feed. They're going to come for your sky broadcast and they're going to hear about it from T.C. Tonight, they're like, oh, she'll be can put more ads on that one. Oh, they're coming. They're coming after you. Anything else I need to apologize for, I'm happy to just go ahead and take it all on one. I think one thing we were talking about out there today was, there's this whole phenomenon of like every scientist knows that some scientific assumptions that we have in the world right now are certainly gonna be wrong 100 years from now, right?

Everybody agrees 100%, that's the case. But nobody will go out and eliminate and say what they actually are, right? They'll never say like, yeah, gravity's like not actually real. But I think you kind of had that with your predictions yesterday where you were like, oh, fuck, I predicted three one. That's definitely not going to happen. I literally sound the show. I said, I'm like, I individual match.

I think three one US. I was like, it won't be three one US. I still feel that way about the individual matches, but it will not add up to three one. I mean, I, I, I sat on Sepstrakka like all year long and he won his match today. So I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll apologize for that. Thank you. Anything else?

I'm happy to, happy to continue to address any of them. Ah, I will not apologize for the process. Of course, stuff was, was, was really a big one. May I was pretty obvious? I mean, it's just, again, I, I, I cannot say enough about how much it has changed like drastically. Although Luke says not, bold look at Zach said not from two weeks ago. Yeah, the whole thing, they, it's not a rope it up for you.

Same thing. It was, it was fine. They didn't have any complaints about this. I mean, yeah, I'm sure they'll be plenty more tomorrow. I mean, do you want to get some more predictions on the on the books now? I do. I apologize for JT. I took a lot of shit and you took a lot of shit yourself, but I wrote two columns and defensive it. And he, he was by far like the best player today.

I think he should make another three teams automatically after, after today is like, I just keep, just keep. I say like, he's the only guy that wants to be out there. I say a lot of things about like put your name on something, stand for something you stood for that. I was you, you kind of whipped me back around on that and talking to and up to the other guys on the, uh, on the euro squad. They're like, Hey, like, like they're fucking crazy if they don't take

GT. Again, guys on the actual euro team. And again, I feel I love Lucas Glover. He's great, dude. I don't mean that he's regurgitated, resuscitated his career. And I'm really happy for him. I don't think I was a shirt today. They're careers today. Lucas is resuscitated. I don't mean this as the shot Tim that people think it is, but it's like, imagine if you lose the opening session today, 4-0, and then you're like, all right, time to turn to Lucasver and Jordan Speed, like send him out there like.

Pick up the phone. Yo, it's like, all right, JT is probably gonna ride. Hey, both Jordan though. He's like, go blazing, both of them. And if Jordan like doesn't vacate himself with the final five holes, like they win that point today. So, yeah, I mean, who knows, he could have gone 0-3 and 1. He could lose, yeah, and it's still might end up looking very bad.

But I think it's like, again, you make these decisions are not, it's really, really easy to do looking back, right? And that's why, maybe that's why I'm like, not as hard on the San Bernstein. I was like, dude, I guess there's probably good reason for it. And yeah, that's their mistake, but like, I didn't first guess it, right? And there's gonna be always the people,

this is the moment when I'm not saying present company, but like this is the moment where just like the pile on continues and the 15th guy would have gone for now at this point. And man, just sometimes you need like Xander, sharply not go over to this exactly happened Paris. DJ went one or four. How about Rory? How about Rory not giving Xander like the two foot or after he missed the five footer? That was great. Yeah, I enjoyed that. I was. How about Roy not giving Zander like the two footer after he missed the five footer?

That was great. Yeah, I enjoyed that. I was. Zander was. I don't know if you have the photo Cody, but Zander was having a solo late putting session as we were leaving the grounds this evening as the sun was setting. I think the speed was on the range too. I don't know if you guys saw that. I got late. I can't to the what's the score after four steps to our to. I don't know if you guys saw that. I can't to the what's the score after four. So far. We're at what six and a half one and a half right now. After four.

Some I would say they probably I feel like things got it. I think you're a little bit too and I wins two and a half the morning. That's what that that's where my head goes to. I would say nine to what nine to three. So then we need, so then we need three, one, just to get to the biggest come back ever. Ever last year, not 20, 21, I think was 11, five after two days. So you know what I was talking for you. So this is bad as Paris was. I think this is a lower moment now, apart because of what you said, like they did a better job of maybe like thinking their way through the process, whatever they didn't have to take the hot hand

or whatever. That should have been stacked for them. And they, and they just laid an even worse. I mean, dude, like almost relatively the same team as they had four, uh, two years ago that one 19 to nine, they big tone. That's what we miss. Big tone. I played horrible in between that. And over the last year, like not a lot of people were screaming for him to be on the team. Bryson, despite the wins on live golf as not statistically been

anywhere close to it. He's been much closer to DJ. He's not played a lot of great golf. Like it, it shouldn't be this bad. Like it is. I tell you what tell you, it would have been a really good fit. Stu. Will's Allataurus. Stu Sink. Zalator is a big stew. Stu Haggisad. Yeah. He wouldn't want it to be there.

He would have played hard. You know, but I think I think Will's Allataurus would have been a fantastic fit for this golf course off the tee, just team room wise, all that stuff. Cameron Young started to really fade and and Zalator's getting hurt, definitely hurt, but I mean, gosh, dude, again, I just come back to like, they didn't win a fucking match today. Not one of them. First time ever. First time ever. First time ever. They've got a full day without winning a match. If you strip out, if you strip out, J who, who's the heart and soul of this team? That's, that's, that's, God, TC. That's well put. I think that's the entire problem. And that's where like, dude, if you go back to Wishing Straits, it was like, Oh, we don't

need a can't lay. You're the seventh best player on this team and you're like undefeated right now, holy shit. It's, that's what makes them front runners. And that's what happens when they click. It's like, Oh, we don't really need a hard and soul TC. That's an interesting concept. But we just win everything. Yeah. It's where like, I'm like, now whistling it was like DJ's team. Yeah. You know, I don't know. I think he just had the best record. Like I think everybody's team, everything is going well. Right. Equal footing. I it's a like legitimately. I'm trying to think of the answer. I don't know. I think Jordan Jordan, in part because he's been on the most Ryder Cup teams of all

of the group that's still playing. He and Justin get along really well. They know. I mean, that's why I think like as long as one of them makes it, you might as well bring the other one because they're they're better together than I think they would probably be a part like it's what do we think is going on in the team room tonight? will be a part like it's what do we think is going on in the team room tonight? Since early. I mean, I, I bet I don't know. I have a lot of your actual guests. I think they're saying, oh, it's, it sucks.

We got sick. That's the only reason we're playing bad. I feel like it's that. I feel like it's a lot of guys like scrolling on their phones. All those in some tunes, maybe some ping pong, maybe a couple like, maybe they're looking at the live show chat. Maybe it'll be. Please call in some. Some G's. Maybe some ping pong maybe a couple like maybe there's a show chat maybe is what's calling some geez

that's a link earlier but I mean like it's so like like I could see Max being one of the cornerstones of the honestly I mean kind of like team environment comes to mind too but like it's like all right like Zander and can't like like that's that's what I'm getting at here with the Zander and can't lay stuff or burns are like these it's like, all right, like, Zander and Kant, like, that's what I'm getting at here with the Zander and Kant lay stuff or burns or like, these guys just like, like, nobody's gonna fucking rally around those guys when things aren't going well.

Like, you need some guys that are magnets that are, that are, that are sources of energy. I was saying it was a cool moment when Scottie made that put on 17 today and he went bonkers. Like, he just, that was a similar one on the, made that put on 17 today and he went bonkers like he just made a similar one on that. I wasn't seeing more since Scotty do that before with huge fist pomp, like, you know, looking at the crowd, feeling like I thought that was that was what the Ryder Cup gives

you is people whose personality is not like that. They feel invested. So I don't know. Maybe it's Scotty. I think Brooks on 15 was like this just says more about like his major championships and a lot of them have been like runaways, but that was like his bigger reactions I've literally ever seen from him.

And it was a random match on, you know, random hole, 15th hole on, you know, Friday. He was pumped, man. And that's, but there's just so few climbers of that. Yeah. God, the heart and soul question's gonna keep me up tonight. T.C. Brooks, good to see you.

Who do you think? I hope he gets a question in the presser when it's all over. What do you think about the process? Because he will be the one person who might be like, yeah, I thought it sucked. Like I shouldn't have. I've heard it down. Shouldn't have sat the first day, but you know, shit happens.

You're not gonna keep it. He might not even go back to the same tour with all these guys. Who are, man, man, give me a lot to think about, you know, one other question. Tomorrow afternoon, who do you think sits for the euros? I think the euros probably rest. I think they probably rest Rory. I think they probably rest.

Ram hands with the leaderboard looks like they send, they send Vic back out. Yeah, like assuming. I mean, if they're up, if they're up, I think, I think, I think, I think, Hatton sits, if they're up I think I think Hatton, I think Hatton sits, I think Rob sits, I think we're really sits. Yeah. And then and then US is like, it's

like in Europe's already more fresh because they've already sat some of their guys that are going to go out tomorrow morning. So here's what I'll say about the about the sitting thing is like as we said, as we were painfully reminded today, 4-0 session is a death knell, right? And so it's like even if it's like joking, but even if it's 9-3 and they decide like, oh, let's rest Rory,

let's rest Rom, let's rest Victor, let's rest two of the three, let's, you know, whatever. And then they give up a, it's very easy to give up an O4 in four balls. And all of a sudden it's 97 is like, two back, that team going back, you know, two down, going in singles is wild. That's almost like a coin flip, right? But that said, I don't see, I don't see Ludwig or,

or Sep or Tommy, like going and lay in an absolute egg tomorrow. Well, because all the good guy, all the best players would be like running alongside them, like high-fiving him, like getting the crowd and do it. Because they're giving those guys an emotionally to big news. It's back to what I said earlier. We'll know in the first like five or six holes, just like we did today. Like there is a chance again, cloud makeup going on a chance chance the US flips the momentum.

If they come out hot and they need like one fucking like rom chipped in three times today and made putts from everywhere and they flipped every single possible thing they could flip. They flipped if that flips tomorrow in the US's favor, which I have no like gut inkling that it will, it could snowball and that's like your only hope. But if they get out and fall behind early in the first couple of matches, I think it's sign or maybe think it's a my. We'll see what happens. We'll see what happens to you like guys, you guys need

to be prepared to like full scale youth movement heading into 25 or 27 of like, is it Nick Dunlap or Thor Bjornson or. But that's the thing T.C. is like going to Beth Page is just a redux of Hazelteen or Whistling Straits, right? Where it's like, no, we don't have to do that. It's like, no, just go back to the old game plan of just smash it all over, play your normal golf, do your thing. Everybody's gonna be cheering for you.

Like I think that's where it's like, no, we just gotta think about like a dare. That's where it's like, dude, I mean, if you look at the reasonable career of all these guys, except for Rory, Rory was on 12 and 10, and I guess Ricky goes back to 10 as well, but like, if anything, it's like, kind of, hey, that's all like,

kind of be worried about the Ryder Cup because home teams just blow the other team out like for over a decade now. And that's what's most, we were talking about this out there. That's what's most frustrating about that is a lot of that stuff has been golf course or weird like extraneous factors. And then today it was just like,

no, they were like sea and ghosts and chunking a bunch of shots. Yeah, but guys, 30 yard short. There's the counter points that the guys that are coming up on the Euro side, whether it's the Hoigards or Ludwig or you know, Albert Hansen in the

suite or, you know, ADDC, all these guys are like, they're, they're fucking predators with the driver and they're, they're almost like more American style players than the Americans are themselves. So if the Americans want to set Beth Page up a certain way, I don't think that that's going to favor, it's not like you got dinkers and dunkers like Molenare out there anymore. Like it's fighting fire with fire now. So, A, that, and then B, I'll also say the junior rider cup team that they're fucking asses beat. Junior soul on team, cup team that they're fucking asses beat. Like, we are entering a new era here. It's all to give me the hat. I got it. Oh, just real quick on that.

I think like for as much as we've talked about course setup, being a huge driver of home field advantage, I think maybe we've underrated just like what it's like to hit golf shots in front of a bunch of people that want you to hit it really shitty. Like I, it, there's enough evidence now to point to you. It's a yo guys like that was so fucking different to that. Xander backed off a shot because on 16 he got to the tee and you know, there's the like same cadence every time where it's like there's, you know, commotion, commotion, clap,

clap, let's go Europe, Europe, let's go Europe. And then it all kind of settles down and it gets quiet and there's those like five, six seconds before they hit the golf shot where it's just dead silent in that dead silence, somebody just point blank on on Zander just goes, Hey, man, don't fucking choke. I don't know if he said that. He said like, Hey, Zander, don't choke. And he backed off the shot. And it's like, yeah, I think he probably heard that, man. And I think he's probably thinking like, okay, don't think about that. Don't think about choking. No, no, no, come on. We're just don't reset. Just to do that. Yeah. Yeah. Of course, you don't do that. Opening T-shirt of the entire Ryder Cup. Yeah.

Scottie Shepfler's getting right ahead of shot. Somebody yells out clear as day. You stick Scott. Hey, and it just a big, I mean, again, it's the Americans yell dumb shit all the time. Again, don't pretend like it doesn't happen in Europe. That was the most heckling I've heard from a European crowd at any event. I'm bringing the Euros to Beth Page. They're coming with me. We are going to have a coalition of the willing. Inviting you as my guest. Yeah.

And you know what, guys, one more thing, too. I just think it's like, I just go back to, to, I think that the euros came in with such underdog over the last two years. And granted, it's normalized and they've kind of been accepted as like, oh no, this thing's a lot more even than we thought it was going to be over the last three to six months. But I think there's something psychologically that tells the euros, you know what?

Let's stick our next out. We can go in in the US. We are like our process and our system is better. And the US is totally shit the bed on any sort of preparation and process for this like preparation and readiness for flex leadership. And the US was not ready to play today. Period point blank. And I think that is on that is 100 like they shit the bad the players did, but I, but I think a 20% or 30% of that blame lays at the feet of Zach Johnson. I think he's a corn cob. I don't think he, I don't think he generates any sort of confidence whatsoever. And it showed that I feel like I feel like an apology for Mr. Morales.

I have a point that I think it'll bring us home, I think. I'd like to apologize to the pavons who I got a good laugh at. What's all I all throughout our sort of recap of the pavons? Mass reminded the closest European rider cup in the last, you know, 15, 20 years. Maybe the pavons knew what they were doing. Maybe all the good laughs that we got, you know, that we're going to shit on the captain. The next thing I would say is when did they call in the cat to be the captain because that's a judge might be a beth page, right? And might be beth page slash a dare. I'm sorry. Might be a might be an assistant captain.

Well, the cat might be in his calm center, like making calls anyway right now. We don't know. But I feel like that's the one sort of ace in the hole you still have where I'm about like rallying around something. Yeah. Like we're like, you're going to listen to me, you're going to do the shit my way. And if you don't, like, you're not going to be on the fucking team. So, you know, if you don't like me, like, make clear now, like I think that's the one last card they have to play. And I wonder when that came to this. KVV going back to the cap being the captain down down to the president's cup at Role Melbourne They almost fucking lost because they rolled in like straight off the plane from the fucking hero world challenge

Hidden Giggle and the Bahamas and then they flew in and they were totally combatose for the first three or four days of the week and Didn't have their strategy dialed at Role Melbourne and all. And then talent took over and they won. But like cats, not some, some panacea for, you know, oh, like, like, like a cover record. If not him, then who? I think that's the that's where it gets scary. That's where he gave me a lot to think about tonight. It's like, man, I don't know, like who's who are we not thinking of? Let's probably be like, well, maybe straight couples should get a shot straight. I think

they run striker back. Let's, let's just bust out of this whole buddy's club thing of like, all right, like, where's like Justin Leonard probably deserves a shot or like, there's certain guys that like haven't been assistant captain. It's just recycling the same assistant captain's over and over and over again. At some point, it's like, hey, man, like you got to, like it's a closed loop at this point. You got to get some new blood in there because it's just recycling the same fucking ideas over and over and over again. And like I think even the analytics guys seem stale, right? Well, recycling the same assistance over and over again is literally what Europe does. Like that's what they're copying off of. Like they're literally taking the European model. Yeah, but like, yeah, but like

all right. Coles sort of like, I don't think Coleserts has been a European assistant captain. Right. I know, I know Bjorns in there this week, but it has. Well, that's, I mean, ZJ was like the new, ZJ was the new blood. He was an assistant captain once. And then now, I like the head cap. He's a corn cob. Not a leader. GZ, I think one of the Mollinaries should get the next day. I don't like running like totally agree. Cause I like, I think it's, I like the one shot and you do your best with it and you dedicate your two years to it and then you're done.

I think it's that your dreams have always been better. Picking guys who weren't true like big time stars and they're, they cleaned out a shit ton of their captains, potentially with live stuff. And so now like give one of them on our Shutt or given both it, you know, a dual captain. But I really think that the way that this thing's working this year is I think it's, I think it's pretty equally shared between Luke, both the Molen R.I.s and Rory. Like that, and probably wrong to an extent. Like that seems like it's pretty evenly distributed.

And I'm sure they'll start using hoveling into that a little bit here as we go along. But you know like I, and shit I would like to see Robert Carlson some of the Swedes get a look as well because there's Swedes coming up through the pipeline and you want those Northern Europeans and I think they need to have a rider cup in Denmark or Denmark Norway or Sweden here in the next 15 years. Yeah I'm all for it. Hell yeah. He wants Pierre to get a pick. Folkie Captain, 2028. No, Carlson, Big Bob Carlson.

For sure. Yeah, Pierre is a good team room. Get T.C. If they hold the Netherlands, I might have to cheer for your squad. Because I then my meat. Come on over the phone. I'm in in that 26 right. Be down for that. Yeah. Right. T.C. I think I'm all in. This in 26 right down for that. Yeah. All right. She said, I think this is a contract year for me. My contract runs out as far as rooting for the US after this year.

So I will get through this year, but you can talk to my agent about future years. I've definitely made some calls. We got we got some cap space. Yeah. Covered up on lift guys. All right. We got to rat. This is the longest ever first round recap of anything we've ever covered, I think, but

made a lot to address. And I'm sure we'll have plenty more to address tomorrow and Sunday. And so it makes this event still the best as down tried and said about the result today. I had a lot of fun. And I wish it would just not even for the sake of the US, I just wish it would have finished closer today because we need a fucking close rider cup really badly. And we had almost had like some really interesting stuff going in tomorrow. I don't, I just can't see force in flipping at this point. I thought it was finally time this year to maybe flip

it. And I just don't see it. I don't know how we've been wrong about everything else. So that feels like a safe position to take. So T.C. my fedora is off to you, my man. You know, two years in the making, I know that had to be a fun. A lot of people were saying I'm a fore-hose T.C. fore-hose rod. Yeah, exactly. Guys, Jojo is right. Eduardo Molinari had off to him. Luke, great job. Francesco, Colzer, Bjorn, all, all you guys awesome stuff. I'm right there with you. TC stands with you guys. I can't get over the scene of of Francesco Molinar, the only guy, the only European to ever go 5 and 0 in the Ryder Cup out there passing

out gelato to the fans. And like, do you that kind of says it all? So the leadership baby, that's right. Cody, we're leading from the front, man. Can't let it do that. We're not pushing from the back. Maybe DJ can get that roll of that. That's where it's like, man, I just, I don't know. I don't, I don't see our, I don't see our side treating this event that way. They'll very, very last note on this. And we kind of did this show in, like in terms of like, all right, let's assume this is kind of bullshit.

Let's address it both ways, right? If the illness thing is just total bullshit, like that's just the lamest thing to throw out, right? I mean, but I'm also inclined to be like, you probably don't say that if it's not, you're not putting that thought out there. If it's not a real thing, like you don't want your team, if they're not sick, you don't throw that out after day one to pick, they're sick, they're sick,

that's what's wrong. All that to say, like, dude, if all of you as team has COVID, what happens? I don't know what happens. Like not to get like all like a, like tinful hat here, but how did it jump straight to COVID instead of like, hey, like the guys got the flu or like somebody has the bug and they're passing it around. I'm seeing you.

You know, again, all this is a legend, but, but ZJ was very, very vague and nebulous and kind of purposely. So it seems like enough talk to a few people that said this. Go commit yourself. There today. There you go. He was, he was hanging out. He was hanging out with Tommy and the boys.

So that's true. You know, but it, yeah, it just seems like if, if the US team is winning, they also don't mention it, even if they are sick. I think if this tough deal for Zach to like, it's, it's what happens. Somebody sort of heard some word of it. Like you don't lie in the press conference and be like, I'm, you know, there's nothing going on there. He was put in a little bit of weird spot where it's like, do you tell the truth or do you sort of kind of, it doesn't explain it, Ricky having at the worst

and sending him out in the first session. That's that one doesn't get explained unless it's like, dude, it's got worse to it. I'm choosing, yeah, or I'm choosing between six guys that aren't feeling good. And also Ricky was out following the matches in the afternoon, or at least at one point. So it's hard to make sense of. It's, it's, yeah, you're not, you're never going to carry favor amongst people if you put that out there though. I just hope ZJ can find, find a spot on the, on the Iowa football coaching staff after this. They had that, they had that rabdo outbreak a few years back when they were working the boys out too hard. The strength coach got that they had a lot of problems. What is it? It wasn't just these team events of the Walker Cup

team. I'll got food poisoning. Everyone's shit in their pants. Every that leadership, man, leadership. I'm Europe's doing. I don't know. I'm looking to it. All right. Let's wrap it. Cody, thank you for one of the ones and twos. T.C. Thank you for all the work that went to the hamstrings section, especially, especially the gin research on Brian. Robert. Thank you to all your analysts. Thank you to the Fedora that I ton for a lot of this episode. Are we trying to get any takes on the record as far as who, you know, you got to be accountable

for in the Fedora tomorrow? Who balls out? I mean, if you ask balls out, Who steps up for the US tomorrow morning? I think speed will play fine in alternate shot. I don't think he'll be as shitty as he is. There's all the take. I can't send him out there. Jordan's speed will play fine. It's alternate shot.

The whole reason you apparently didn't couldn't put him out there in the first part, where they've been the only good for some steam is because, oh, speed will hurt you inrin shot or JT L. Hurts you. I think they'll be fine. I think it'll be as good as the other. Which feels totally off base because Speed, like his drivers is best attribute these days, right? It's like it's not the speed of five numbers.

He and JT figure it out. Like if they hit it off the planet, they're like, all right, I got you. I'm gonna come in and they don't pout. They, you know, I'm, they just figure it out. And that's why they're, they're good, all right, I got you. I'm gonna, they don't pout. They, you know, they just figure it out. And that's why they're good preparing in this. If the US plays good tomorrow, I got to put it back on and apologize for giving up on them.

I mean, I really, the force and things is like, all right, I'm kind of done falling for it at this point. I mean, it's, you truly just thought. It's such a small, it's a small sample size like every two years and you're just kind of like, dude, it can't go this way. Because they used to suck at it in the US and they figured it out there. It was like, all right, at some point, they're going to figure out in Europe.

It's a whole new group of guys. They got a new way of looking at pairings and all that and it was literally the worst it could possibly be. Like I, I think I don't think they'll go foing for in four subs tomorrow. How about that? Oh, that's obviously bold. I think Brooks is, Brooks is the dude tomorrow. about that. Ooh, that's obviously bold. I think Brooks is Brooks is the dude tomorrow. I think Brooks is US team MVP tomorrow.

He's gonna use the board like Ram possibly. So a Shane Ryan found a video. I know we keep like saying last segment, where at the US Open, he punched like a board as he was walking into scoring and that thinks that it's a reference to that. That Ram, like when he's pissed off at the US Open that he threw a little tantrum there and that's what Brooks was mentioning. I don't know. We'll dig into that. So, DZ. Thank you. I really thought you were going to double down on Harman. I just, you know, a man I thought about it. I that was not it today. Did you do the Fedora for that one? No, I'll throw it on real quick so you can grab your screenshot. If there's an opening, that's where it today. Did you do the Fedora for that one? No, I'll throw it on real quick so you can grab your screenshot.

If there's an opening, that's where it is. Max and Harmon against Laura and Shraca, right? I think Max is going to play well. And Cody is for you. Brian Harmon that adding it today. I thought he was going to make a bunch of pots. He didn't even sniff any, you know, you're DJ. I'll wear that with you.

Thanks. I was right there with you. And I get to expunge my bad takes the awards that I got in the show notes for all of the Brian Harman on the writer cup. So yeah, those are a bunch of me records. Thanks for going to traffic school. Thank you. All right. For real rap. Let's go to bed. We up very shortly for first tea yet again. Robin Hatten against can't win. Nobody, nobody expressing any sort Hatten against can't live in softly. Nobody nobody

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