No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 779: Sentry Recap

Episode Date: January 8, 2024

Chris Kirk kicks off the 2024 PGA Tour season by winning the Sentry at 29 under par after a bogey-free 65 on Sunday. We look at Kirk's week at Kapalua with a clip from his prior appearance on the pod - NLU Episode 326 - detailing his struggles with anxiety and alcoholism (8:10). We also cover the close calls for Sahith and Spieth (21:00), what to make of Scheffler's week (30:00), Kisner's broadcasting debut (40:30), Rahm lurking on Maui (49:30) and Jason Day's new look (53:00). In the final half hour we look at the off course news including the Rory interview from this week and various reactions to his comments, the curious schedule for the PGA Tour's rookie orientation, some early dubs for us in 2024, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes. That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another year of recaps on the No Laying Up podcast slash live show brought to you by our friends at high noon Mitch Campbell already in the chat, saying, Bangalang, Sally is here. That is of course, Neil on the ones and twos with his Bangalang

button. Hello, Neil. Gentlemen, good to be with you from bleak, cold, sleety New York City. DJ Pie, what a difference 12 months makes, baby. You know, we're seeing a lot of, a lot of shots out there in the telecast. Oh, that's where that's where we were last. I'll never have. You were out there. We were out there. Remember, and then JT got up and now from there. Yeah, he's about to hit the father to any ball of 18 T unbelievable. There's small a guy. That was the voice of DJ Pi as well as an expanded field this year at the century. They moved to 59 players and we are expanding our field as well to include big rand uses a highlight event for him. Hello, Mr. Pigs. There used to be winners. Oh,

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or liquor store. You can find all locations at highnoonspirates.com. Quick question. Yeah, Randy. I know you're a big fruit connoisseur. Where do plums rank? Yeah, it's a great question, you know. I'm glad we're starting there. Plums, I don't eat enough of them.

Of course, they're great for the digestive system, keeping you on time and regular. It's a bit of a blind spot for me. I'm not going to lie. I do not know the deliciousness and the joy of a wonderful plum. I'm sorry to admit that. Neil, you're absolutely killing our ad rate per minute ratio here after I went and yelled at a brand new in Joe and curiosity for me.

I mean, I think Randy's some homework for us. Maybe we explore the space. Yeah, you know, go get a little jack corner on. Yeah. I love you're taking your thumbs and some pies. If you're so anxious to talk, then Neil, take us to Chris Kirk's one shot win here at the century. I know you're absolutely stoked over this. I mean, one of the few guys left that works the ball right to left. I mean, just towering draws all day. It felt like he was picking up his tee at the apex. I want to give a shout

out to Kisner. I thought he was excellent. That was a breath of fresh air on the broadcast. Chris Kirk, not the most exciting guy. I seem to manage his energy, almost seems like he's half asleep, but that usually leads to pretty good golf. And he seems like a great dude. Imagine when $3.6 million you live in an Athens, Georgia.

I mean, you know, he might be, you might have the, you know, the cheat codes going right now. What's this? Is this his third win? Oh, more than that. This is his sixth win, actually. Sixth win, excuse me. First, I looked at up just getting where this was. In fact, his sixth year three. Yeah, he won the Viking classic. He won the McGladry, won the Duits Bank. He won Colonial and he won the Honda Classic last year. There was an eight-year gap in between that, the Colonial and the Honda Classic. But okay, the Duke can take it deep. I know he won, he won the Cornfair event as well during the middle of COVID, the King and Bear Classic, right, when

they came back from COVID. He's got 2600 to win that and does this at 29 under par. Randy, you got a problem with the low scores at the century. I know you do. No, I know what it is. You got to expect it. I mean, par 73 plays plays in a par 73. It is not number five. Does not need to be a par five. Just make it a par four. Listen, this is this is the season opening event. Everybody's on vacation. This is not the event where I get worked up about the low scores. That will come later in the year I promise. So I'm almost thinking they should rather than making five into a par four, maybe just make it like a par, par 78, like take it the other way.

You know, just like, because like with the wind, like it just changes all the time, right? Either 12's gonna be drivable, 14's gonna be drivable. Maybe you can get sneak up on three, maybe you can get close to this one. So, you know, just take it the other way. It's part 78 winners at, you know, 47 under par, 5200 par or something like that.

You could, you could let guys, you could let guys declare their own par. I like that too. Yeah. That's interesting. Cause we're just counting shots at the end of the day. Let them play whatever par, of course they want to play. We did an office hours about this. And Wolfie was talking about how the British open they used to, they would change the par every day.

It was almost like surf conditions. They would just tell you, you get your scorecard, like the par today is X. They should do that. Rolf should set the par based on where the wind. He might change it mid-round. You know, if the wind, if the wind shipped's right, he dropped a comment in there today. You don't get the wind direction they got today. You don't get more than 10 days a year out of 365.

Very rare. He was fired up about that. Roll for rules. Roll for rules. Hey, can I say something about Chris Kirk? I see a lot of, I saw a lot of people in this comment. Absolutely not. Thank you.

We can move back to plums, if you like. I saw a lot of people in the comments calling him the king of the mules. I resent that. No. Guys don't weigh too much. I think he's become a pretty world class player over the last couple of years. I don't think he's a top five player in the world,

but he's been a guy that has just been around. He's been a very solid top 30, top 25 guy in the world. And I know it's, we're kind of almost bordering on the like Dustin Johnson Condon, Dustin's been working on his wedges like the whole like come back from alcoholism depression is almost becoming like a one-line bio for him. But man, when you really like stop and think about that, I was thinking about today. So, you know, we're all about the same age as Chris Kirk, he's maybe a little older, but thinking about your career and your livelihood

and kind of this whole thing you've really devoted your whole life to, like almost being taken away from you at the age of 34, 35, not even taken away from you, I guess just kind of like kicked away yourself almost is probably more how it feels. Like all of this stuff has to feel like such gravy to him to get this like second act in his career to totally turn his life around and to like basically become like start playing the best

golf of his life. I think that's a very, you know, what I've rather seen saw his win, what I've rather seen spieth win. Sure. But the Chris Kirk story, I'm here for it, man. I hope he wins. I hope he wins three times this year. I'm, I, every time he does, I'm, I'm happy to see him out there thriving. I love it. That's well said, Dij. I, you know, we got a chance to interview him summer. I think of 2020 right around that time and kind of he was finding his game. He was just kind of coming out with his story and what it was. And man, it, he details it really, really, you know, in some tough details in that about like what anxiety is like in terms of, I mean, the guys made a boatload of money. there's so much money playing golf already.

And he would, you know, miss a cut and come to the, he would get into his hotel room and think like, I can't pay my bills this week. And that was that anxiety. He would lead him to drink and he just be drinking alone in a hotel room. And it just like started this spiral that was kind of out of control. And man, you just, you never like would ever know that by watching somebody play golf on TV. And it was pretty vulnerable.

You're right. It does kind of just become that everybody knows his story of recovering from alcoholism. But man, let's into the details. And there's a lot to be gleaned from that. Well, I mean, first of all, I had always been someone who really liked to drink and, you know, like to drink socially. And it was all for a party whenever. But I think that it changed when my anxiety kind of got worse.

And so the way I look at it is that I would, when it started getting bad, I would take a very rational thought, something that I would be worried about you know worried about that that I played bad one day or or worried about whatever it doesn't matter something You know, we all worry about stuff. It's very very natural So I would take that thought and then I would that would change to something else and then that would change to something else and that would change something else and it would be sort of a snowball effect and and within be sort of a snowball effect and within the matter of a few hours I would get to the point where I was like I've got to sell my house. I need to quit and find another job. I've got to do, you know, I'm not going to be able to afford

to pair electricity bill next month and all these things that when I look at it now and if you looked at it from the outside then you would say that makes no sense. It's completely irrational, but at the time it was very, very real, just as real as the first thought was. the first thought was. So as that kind of continued to happen, I just was basically searching for a way to shut my brain off and stop all that. And so that was that was what I did. You know, and I remember it very well, just liked to be able to drink to the point where I could just sit there and stare at the wall if I wanted to and not think about anything. And so it was effective medicine for a while, but then eventually it stops working and it can make it even worse. And so that's that kind of touches on where, when I did stop drinking the first time and tried to,

then, you know, a lot of that anxiety was able to kind of flow out without anything to slow it down. We talk about this on the pot all the time, but everything just gets flattened, right? Where you hear this like, oh, he's overcoming adversity. And that could mean, depending on those guys in the field, it could mean everything from like, he hit it in a bunker on 18 last week to like, his life almost became unraveled

due to alcoholism and depression. And that all gets flattened into like, oh, he's overcoming adversity. And it's really worth in my opinion, like stopping and, you know, double clicking Neil on the, the shades of gray contained therein on Chris Kirk and his story and how much different it is than a lot of the other guys out there. So I'm a big fan.

I would agree with you that he is definitely not a mule, but I wouldn't put him the thorough red category. This is where we get into the dressage horse, the, you know, what is that in between? Might have to call him Cody for a ruling on what type of horse or horse adjacent. He's just a way, he's a, he's a working horse. You know, you, you saddle him up, you take him out, you take a look at your property, you check your fence lines. I mean, Cody knows all this stuff, especially in this, the year of reaping, right? Like, I mean, he's kind of a horse that just strap the plow to him, get him out, get him out there, sowing some stuff.

a horse that just strap the plow to him, get him out there sowing some stuff. If, if you're still doing your harvesting that way, sure. You know, you need horses I can just, every day horses. So all your thoughts. I was, I was going to say something about winning on two different golf courses like Coppola and PGA national. I'm guessing the, I haven't pulled it up here on data golf. I'm guessing the similarity scores of those two golf courses is not, uh, not overly, uh, compatible. It's two very, very vastly different, uh, wins on two different golf courses. I don't think I've done both.

Come on. There's come on. You guys can come up with one. There's gotta be somebody who's done it. Besides the cat cat. Yeah. I try to ignore Honda as much as possible. And you know what?

I'm wrong. This is like, it is the eighth most similar course to the PlayStation course a couple of it. So it's just on like what kind of players succeed there? No, it's like, it's a correlation to like what, you know, what players have success there. The style of the courses are vastly different, but I kind of reward the same kind of stuff. But one other thing I'll chat out. I know, a lot of times they bring up the kind of special interest is the him playing lefty. Like so sick. But that kind of blew me away. I mean, to look him up with TC, he's shot 82 lefty, like back in the fall, like I am, I would love to know more about that. So, yeah, and I want to get into, you know, NBC pulled that great video of him.

He's getting his caddy in the batting cage. You see that earlier? Yeah. Yeah. That one is caddy had time to get out of the way of that one. That wasn't you thought the same thing. It was an 88. Yeah.

65. Yeah. That looks like you and me. We were throwing the baddy kids that wriggly back in 2017. But dude, Kappeloo, I, I keep saying this. Kappeloo, a frig saying this, Kappeloo, a friggin' rules. And if you got a problem with the low scoring, I'm sorry,

we just are two different people because it requires, and I thought it was the most elevated effort NBC gave to explain the details of each shot, right? Because it is not textbook shots out there. Everybody knows about the massive elevation changes, but all the considerations of the grain and the slopes and all this and it helped just to have kids during the booth talking about all this stuff as well. But all of like the dividing line considerations of each shot were highlighted so well. And I don't know, I thought this was really good

viewing. We were chatting before we came on. It sounded like you, some people thought this was a bit of a snoozer, but I was, I was, for a golf nerd, I thought like they honestly, obviously the commercial load is a total disgrace. We don't need to rehash that, but felt like they up their effort. And I first down as I was on this event on Wednesday show, I really actually enjoyed watching that this week. I don't disagree with anything you said. I didn't, I don't think I said it was snoozer. I said, I said, I felt like wrong would have won by four.

This is what I, it's what it felt like to me. And there's no way to put that in the way. Now that he's on live, he's a lot better. Yeah, he's a lot better. Yeah, he's a lot better. Well, this is the first time I think I'm going to reach across the island, kind of agree with some of them. I'll give them some fodder to use. I see you guys. I hear you. I feel for you. Ram would have won by four this week. This is this is throw these results out. These don't even count. What do you have beaten Taylor Gouge?

Tournament. Well, that's hard to know. It's hard to know that for sure. No. But I don't know. Hey, I want to, I got two things for Chris Kirk before we, I'm since we're going to go other places soon. One very much enjoyed that his kids' names are Foster, Sawyer, and Wilder. Those are peak Georgia names, Neil, maybe some future of the Maris school students, among that group,

they scream SA, SAE's at UGA one day to me. But then also, I wanted to ask you guys, one shot lead, this is where I think Kapalua is a little, this is my only knit to pick with Kapalua is if somebody has the lead going into 18, it's just such an easy hole. And I was gonna say, what confidence interval would you guys place upon yourselves to hold a one shot lead playing 18? Cause I think all four of us could do it. I legitimately think that in my heart of hearts.

Oh, it could do what? It could make a par when you need to. Yeah, it could make par. I would worry a little bit about the grainy B need to. Yeah, can make par. I worry a little bit about the grainy bermuda. Yeah, that touchy chip. It's scary to me as rope in a three wood in from from up top. No, because you just you just can't skull it. You just got a chunk and it'll run out. I mean, you're going to have at worst like a 20 foot pot. So I guess it's, you know, can you lag a 20 footer up there? I think the biggest fair feedback. I think the biggest case against, against

Cabelo would be like, there's so many balls rolling down in the same spots. Okay, DJ, I was going to say these exact same thing. It's 15 is where it bothers me. Where they, like, I, I, 15 stinks. No, no, it doesn't stink. But I wish there was a way for them to create a wider land, like flatten out a little bit more land down there so that within a, you know, 100 yard radius, if you catch that hill, like what happened? Speed and Harris English's balls, like, like, hitting next to each other in a divot, like, it, it's just kind of, it's frustrating when there's just a magnet.

Like when I'm playing golf on a course like that, I get a little frustrated by that when they all end up in the same three by three area. Seven's kind of like that. But I weirdly, it weirdly works for me because it's like, all right, do you want to hit play from up top or do you want to hit the shot that risks going into the right rough and maybe goes in a divot where everybody else is at, right? There's like a little strategy about like, do it. It might end up in a divot if you hit it out into that spot. I don't know. It's a weird course. It's a weird and that's what I like about it because it kind of, for as far as the ball goes out there, it kind of is not a course that's ruined by distance because everything is just about, it's all, it's a lot of half-parholes and it's a lot of like touchy wedge shots, but there's so many considerations that go into them that it's just not stock

golf shots. That's what I love about. There's not, I'm trying to think of maybe, maybe number two, the part three, is the only like stock-ish golf shot I can think of on that course. Yeah, I think that's right. I love watching it because it's purely unique and totally different than anything else. And I feel like it's from, I feel like we've said this before, but for like a mountain golf course, it's the best example of like mountain golf that I can think of, right? Because at a lot of those mountain types of golf courses, you have balls all funneling to the same direction. At least out there, you have enough width,

solid to where what you're saying on 15, like there is a dividing line between staying up top and coming down to the bottom, but it does kind of seem like those are maybe the only two options, right? It's like you're either going to be in A or B. There's no real like C. And that's where if there are a few more ledges where maybe ball gets hung up here halfway down the hill. I know that maybe that sounds artificial. These are this is a nitpick. I mean, it's a couple holes, but they end up being holes that matter down the stretch and kind of like what Randy saying.

You're seeing them in some ways it's good like 18. You see the guys hit the same shot, which is an awesome shot. Then on 15, it's not really an awesome shot. It's like, oh, yeah, that's going to roll down to the right. And that's kind of boring. I totally agree. What do you guys think the this scoring average was on the fifth hole this week? It'll led to the apar 5. Like 3.9. 4.1. there were 174 birdies and 36 bars. It's a par four. Speaking of birdies, I want to give a special shout out to SunJM for making 34 birdies this week. Randy, how many did you make in your quest, your 2023 birdie

quest for the year? 25 birdies. And an eagle. And an eagle. How are you? I don. 25 birdies and an eagle. And so how are you? I don't know if I'm doing many angles. We could have we can put our research team on that. But how does that make you feel? You know, honestly, fine.

It kind of gets back to like some J. That's his job. He should be out there making birdies. Right. I nobody's paying me to make birdies. So I know he thinks that's okay. That's true. I mean, no Eagles. I mean, no Eagles. So I got that on them. Yeah.

Do you guys think if I gave you 34 birdies out of 72 holes, what do you think? Neil, what do you think you shoot for the week? If I started 34 under, yeah. And you only had to play 38 holes. Oh, okay. Um, I think I go, I think I finished it like minus 20. That sounds about right. I mean, it's still like a, I guess 77 rated course. Like it's, what I mean, like it's still hard. I'm just like, I'm going to shoot 78, 78 out of like, if I'm feeling great out there. So I feel like even part is a great bet. If for Neil, no, well for yeah. So these are going to go 34 over in 38 holes. Shot fired. Be the most like shocking thing in the world. I mean, Neil and

I part of me, I thought you had a little more confidence in me. Did you guys watch those guys putt out there? They're befuddled by the greens. You guys watch strapped when the other bar. Damn. Multi-play by Bernie. This was called my way. Oh, son, I'm just catching straight in here. What's going on? Neil and I all shot Bernie. We buried 17 and 18 when we were playing all shot. That's true. I forgot about that. That was a major tour. And then that's so much course knowledge too now after playing it once. All right, let's move on. So I got my shirt on, I put it on for the back nine

and of course it did not end up working out for my guy. But I have to take the words of Mr. Tagalog here, I'm really, really proud of what he's accomplished for sure, for sure. Yeah, so another, this dude is just seems destined to lose like 12 tournaments by just the hair like the thinnest possible margin. I brutal lip out on 18 keeps him out of a playoff. Who knows Kirk had a birdie obviously on top of him if he needed to but the the juxtaposition

of watching Jordan saw his and Chris Kirk all come down the stretch was was quite jarring and Let me to think Neil we were talking about a little bit before like Sawhith might be destined for the for Jordan's crown of the best bad golfer in the world Like it's there there's some truly jarring jarring shots that he hits The T-shirt what was that 13 or 10 one of the ones going up that hill was just the T-Shirt was at 13 or 10. One of the ones going up that hill was just horrendous. I think the kids in the city might have hit it off the

hosle, like 5,000 RPMs, a spin or something. It's just so it's there's some bad, bad, bad shot. Oh, he's got, I mean, he's really, really touchy around the greens. Like, I enjoy watching his, his bag off. He might be having whiffs of the kid. That's interesting. You know, he's kind of, he's swaggy, fans love him. You know, he's, he's kind of wearing his emotions on his sleeve. He gets out of trouble after he hits a

bad shot like that. Like if, if, if not, if not him, who? I mean, Tom, well, we've tossed around young Tom Kim, which I think is a total John the Baptist situation. I do not think he is the next kid, but he's been tossed around a lot. I think that that would be the media telling you that, uh, I think side might sneaky be like the true kid. How fun is it to watch saw his play a golf course with wide fairways like it, it just where he can go be free swing. His his drive on 17. He just looked about, uh, like Fred couples level of tempo and looseness in that. Just absolutely wailed on it. Uh, I don't know. be free swing. His drive on 17, he just looked about like Fred couple's level of tempo and looseness in that. Just absolutely wailed on it. I don't know. This feels like I was rude. I thought we were going to get a speech. Saw hits one of the two because this is one

of both from each of them. One of the best chances they have to win a golf tournament all year, right? Like the longer and more narrow it gets for both of them, the worse it gets and the more it can be about creativity and creative shots and not just about, you know, the driving skill that their chances to win go down. So it just feels like a missed opportunity for both of them. I mean, Sauth also shot ten hundred today. So, Saulie speaking of that, do you have Tony Fienaus average driving distance for this week. If there was ever a week where we could see the vaunted extra 40 that Tony has, why? What have you ever pulled? What a random shot here. It's over on the big smash. He's probably worried about it. It's probably worried

about hitting the hazard on 18. What are you talking about? You know, isn't it so fun to see him on these wide fairways? He can just grip and rip and you can see it in the right way. Yeah, if we're not seeing Fina, you know, flying at 380 this week, what are we doing? What's he saving it for? You don't need to fly at 380. Use the slopes out there. Come on. He was sixth and total in driving distance on all holes this week at 321. Okay. So you're still not dipping into that. I'm sure. I'm afraid though. Be fun to see the big smash. I wonder what he's saving it for. I mean, he was hitting, he had 183 ball speed off the first of the first tee today. Like that's, that's getting out there.

Maybe they've been part of his negotiations with that other tour. That's a good sign me and I'll, I'll show you. I'll show you. We need to talk about speaking of someone having an extra 40 in the tank. We have a new longest drive in the history of the PJ tour, shot link era hit by the pro Max Homa, or 77. And he thoughts on that. Did he make birdie at least? If not, we have to hit him with the made part though.

That's the only, that's the only possible response to that. I, I missed his what, what hole on the seventh hole? This was the seventh hole yesterday. Yeah. Is that right? I can report. He did make birdie. Okay. Yes. Yeah. He hit it. So I think when it was either playing downwind or hit the right spot of the of the hill or whatever, but that hole plays like five 25, I think. And he hit it all the way down the hill. It forced 77. It's every yard to the pitch. Edged Davis love who hit day. I'm going to go to the next day. I'm going to go to the next day.

I'm going to go to the next day. I'm going to go to the next day. I'm going to go to the next day. I'm going to go to the next day. I'm going to go to the next day. I'm going to go to the next day. I'm going to go to the next day. I'm going to go to the next day.

I'm going to go to the next day. I'm going to go to the next day. So our heartfelt congratulations. That's sweet. Yeah. The disrespect. Disrespect for you. Good bounce back for him this week. Kind of, kind of buoy tendencies. Not as best start and just kind of kept steadily rising. I think he finished, he finished top 10. T14, he finished. Along with country music sensation, Eric Cole, the validating,

decisive, just putting Ludwig in a body bag. I know. Just software album sounds like it might be a chart topper. That's second record sensation. Second record's hard to do, man. And, uh, you know, to come back and in your sophomore campaign is, is quite interesting. Ludwig shot 10 under, uh, to save some face today. But, uh, T 47 out of 59 players this week, despite a 63 today. People are asking if that's why T.C. called in sick. Can I confirm or deny after I have to ask I would encourage you to tweet at Tron. What do you think of the speed thrill ride? Are we this, is this a sign of things to come for Jordan in 2024 for that's the year,

right? Yeah. What year is this? I hope so. I mean, he put it a great, right? I mean, that was, that's always the, the do or die. It seems like drove it. It kind of seemed like he at last glance did was doing everything else kind of pretty average,

but he got some plus to go in. I don't know. It's hard to say with like a golf course like this, you know, it's again, it's everything super wide and it all kind of funnels to the same spot. So we'll see, uh, we'd love to see the next, the next test would love to see another proof of concept before we make any sweeping declarations, I think. I'd love to get rid of just like three foot misses too. Sure. You know, just like just maybe one of these days we're not going to do that and, you know, end up a shot or two from a playoff.

So his kind of bottom line did form a couple times. He's like, just make it. Yeah. And what do you do? I'm taking so long. Like, make it. Just make it. It's three footer.

Just make it. That was painful. What what hole is that on that on 17? I think it was on 15 or 15. Yes, that's right. That's right. 15. And he was he he's crashed down behind. It's a two footer, three footer. Crashed down behind it stands up, backs up, goes and looks at it from the other side, comes back, crashes behind it, stands up, backs up, looks at it again, and then looks at the hole, misses the whole, and just awful, awful stuff.

And kids was, We know how grainy those are though. But, you know, and you think you're gonna just make all those three footers? Okay, I don't think I'm gonna miss 34 of them. I wanna, I wanna preface this with, I do believe that Jordan and Justin could read the Greens a couple of them

a lot better than we can. For sure. Did you have any reaction of how dramatic some of their reads were on some of these like three like two and three footage like like this is outside the hole. And I'm like, I don't know if this is outside the hole. It's like they had, they really wanted to read a ton of. They they seem, they were taking it very like the grain was, was on their minds. Like they were, it was, they were insisting about what a factor it was.

So I'm, listen, I'm going to take their word for it. I would tend to as well. It just was shocking. I was like, you want me to say this outside of the hole? Anyways, but quick note here, before we move on this episode, of course, brought to you by our friends at title is the number one ball in golf and the overwhelming number one ball on the PJ tour. This week in Maui, the 2024 season started with 41 players in the centuries, 59 player field team it up with a title as golf ball as more than five times the nearest competitor.

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I think you're, uh, this is, this is going to become your blood support for 2024 is watching this one particular player, uh, try to get the golf ball in the hole. Yeah, I didn't know where we're going. I wasn't looking at the agenda, but that obviously tips it. I, I, let me preface this with all the normal preface is, uh, I have nothing against Scotty. Scotty seems like an absolute great guy. He's, I think by far the best player in the world. But man is it rich and compelling to watch him hit four, five, three, two foot puts right now because it just feels like I don't know, man, it just feels like a Greek myth or something.

Dory and Gray type stuff. Like I'll give you everything you want. You're just going to have to struggle over these three footers. I'll let you you can you can hit every green for all I care, hit every fairway, you could shape it, you could hit the driver low, you could hit the driver eye, I'll give you all the shots, man, but you're going to have to, you're going to rip your hair out because of these four footers. And I just, I don't know what, that is golf right there. That's is, that's why golf is, is the sport it is. It's like it is, you cannot just do one thing and go win the tournament. It also, I haven't checked the updated numbers, but I was thinking about it last year

and they set it again on the broadcast today. How much, like it's always so funny that like, whatever Scottie's negative strokes game putting is, is how many he loses by like almost every single week. It's always like, oh, he's, you know, he's, he's minus four and a half this week. I've agreed that he's five back or he's four back or whatever. And it's just, it's just awesome. Kids is, kids is this whole thing. I don't know if that was right or not.

Like the whole shoulders being open, feet being closed or feet being at the target. Shoulders open, you know, the same way. I believe he said like this, he lines up to a putt, the same way he lines up to a drive. The problem is like you can't hit a cut with your puts. So that's why he's either pulling or pushing things. I would have to think just to flag this, I got to think Phil Kenyon's probably good at

looking for that stuff as well. I got to think that's probably something he's noticed if that's a recurring thing. But I don't doubt that that's maybe part of what was going on today. But yeah, can't look away. It's reaching zalatoris levels, right? Like it doesn't look like YBG. I'll come on. No, just as far as like how much I'm leaning forward

in my couch when it comes on screen. Like it's just, it's awesome. It's a big highlight and I know that seems cynical or negative, but like in the times in which we're living with, you know, this bleak state of pro golf, the telecast is always awful. Like I got to look for something that's going to really make me glue my eyes to the screen. And right now it's it's got his putting. So I'm sorry for him, but that's the way that's the way it is. The DJ I could not coast on that anymore. It's like the puts don't look bad though. No, I'm not saying that close at

BMW. I watched him, you know, for 12 holes and it's like they they're high side. They just don't go in. They just never go in and he's just, you know, endlessly flimics by it. I think we're going to find out if he's going to be, you know, is Scotty and

ESB? Is he going to be an emotionally strong boy this year? Because I think he's you're right. He's going to start shout out to TC trying to raise some ESBs. Yeah. This could, this could be very difficult for him. Are we going to get a freak out like at some point? Solid, do you think we're going to get a freak out? Probably at some point. I've decided though, I'm going to do like what he does, which is like pretend it's not an issue. And I'm just going

to deny it all the way down. Like I think he looks better actually. I think his putting action looks a lot better. I really do believe that. Whatever the new putter he's got. And yeah, I'd be curious his reaction to Kiss' comments. Like I'm wondering if, I'm sure that's, I wonder if that's something they work at in practice. But when he gets into competition, he has a tendency to wanna open his shoulders to the line.

But I don't know. It did actually look better at times. I know his numbers were not very good over the weekend, but he put it well the first couple of days. And it is a weird course to put on. So I don't I feel like it's going to be I put it in my predictions for the year. I said he's going to end the year with positive stroke, skin putting. And I'm I'm going to still ride with that despite a tough opening week. We're 45th of 59 players in putting this week. But I think

you're right. I think that's a good flag to throw. So I always that couple of those weird places, especially for shortputs, like weird grainy stuff. There's a lot of foul tips going on out there, I think. But it's, watch this space, because, you know, if he slays the dragon and he totally fixes it, and he, you know, just runs away and hides as the best player in the world, he wins five times, like, gotta take your hat off to that too.

But I'm here for either one. I just, that's what I'm trying to say. Well, the Bermuda's finicky, but hey, we're going to we're going to Poa pretty soon, right? Right. And attitude grass, DJ. And I don't know if he's got a good attitude right now. And so I mean, I think he's I think that's what Sali saying. It all seems to roll off his back. I mean, which is well, that's his whole thing. And that happened for so long. It's like a year and a half. I'm gonna just know it's not. It's not even been a year. I don't know the strokes gains chart does not look great like over from basically the beginning of last year. It looks just a downward

gradual, you know, maybe a two degree decrease there. Not good. It's so sick. Dej, what did you think? I think they were talking about it maybe Thursday or Friday. I forget early in the week. The the announcers were making a big deal. You of course are a process maven. And they were talking about Scotty. The two things every week, he just needs two things. He has to go in feeling like he's prepared. And then he has to have a good attitude. And then come what may,

it's a successful week for him if he can have those two things. I actually kind of dug that. Keep it simple. It's why I think this pudding thing, I'm not sure if he's gonna have a freak out. I think he's just trying to stay positive. But I think Randy that to me is what makes it so interesting.

He's like, I totally agree with that. And I think that's what he's done for the last year, right? Is like, is show up and accomplish those two things. And it's led to a bunch of wins. He was player of the year. He's the number one player in the world. All this stuff and like, how long can that keep going? How long can you keep showing up with the positive attitude as, you know, these Greek

gods keep pushing you in like these unforeseen ways? It's just it's so it's so entertaining. You guys want to hear something grow test. I just pulled up his last 25 starts on his data golf page. Not once in his last 25 starts has he had a tournament where he lost strokes off the tee or with approach. Not not one single tournament has he not and he has only lost strokes around the green in three tournaments out of the last 25. So like of those 75 possible opportunities to go green or red, he is 72 of 75 and making those green. Now in putting he is one, two, three, four, five,

six, seven, eight, nine positive putting weeks out of 25. And his last 25 starts not counting this week. And still what 20 of 25 on top 10s? Dude, really, I, this may take a while. And I'm sorry. I'm going to go back to November 6, 2022 and read you his results because it is, it's still absolutely ridiculous. T3 T9 second T7 T11 win T12 T4 win. Fourth T10 T11 T5 T2 T3, three, three T4 T3 T23 T3 T31 T2 T6 win. And this week was T5. And this is like the best part, I think, is ready to your point about like attitude and you know, show it up. Like he gets home from those tournaments

and sure Meredith is like, man, that's a great week. You finished first. Awesome. Now, where'd it go? Well, you're killing it. You're so consistent. This is so impressive.

Like how does he not just lose his mind after all of those start to run together and he just, like, isn't winning. It's just, God, it's awesome. I can't even think of anything like it, honestly. I think, I think he's, he's still fine. I don't even know what you guys are talking about. I think, well, I would say I, and that's, I'm saying, that's what, sorry, Neil, that's what I'm not here for. It's just pretending like this is not a thing. Like, I'm with you, Deed. Not us. I'm talking about him. That's the one thing that I can't abide by because like,

or maybe Randy, maybe that's part of the process. And like, we'll see who's will break faster here. But like, as soon as he keeps showing up, just like, yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. No, I'm not really concerned about it at all. No, I don't even think about it is, is that I can't I can't really, I don't know how long I can do that. I am happy to see that Ted Scott's not behind them reading Puts anymore because I do agree with not that he's a bad green reader, but you gotta,

I think at that level, you gotta pick your line and go. And if you start blending opinions and stuff, I thought that was kind of clouding his putting last year. So we'll see what happens with that. He had some interesting comments before the week started. You know, he said, you know, last year, my ball striking was obviously very good. My putting wasn't as good as I think it needed to be, which I believe we can confirm. I just check you with the sources that that that does check out. He says, some years it's my diet, some years it's been some time I want to put in the gym. One year it was creating different shots.

And this year, uh, kind of emphasis was placed on putting. I put in a lot of work with Phil over the off season. I'm excited. I saw a little bit of the fruits of that at the hero. I had a nice putting week and I feel like it's the balls coming off. The blade really nicely now. And I'm looking forward to coming out this week and seeing where I'm at. Go ahead.

He's at least talking about it. And like, at least says like this was a focus. Yeah. There's no way in no world in which he would ever do this nor should he. But man, all I just want to hear about it, I just want to hear about what they've tried, what's going on behind the scenes, what are they working on,

what, how is he actually feeling? How is he actually thinking about this stuff? Like, I think that might be my, if a genie gave me, you know, you could, you could have eight beers with a tour player and like ask him any topic. I think that's, that's where I'm cashing in my chips right there. I just, I can't get enough of it.

He also, what he went to my, my favorite excuse for good ball strikers that can't putt very well of when you're hitting the green a ton of times and you're putting from between 10 and 15 feet, you can't really control what part of the green you're putting it on. So you're probably leaving yourself one of the harder putts. It's not like the dudes that miss greens and are chipping nearby leave themselves like the easiest pots because you're in a little bit more control where you can leave it. But I was interested in here and say that.

Sure. Sure. Can we zoom in on the kisser thing? Other players don't seem to struggle with that. Yeah. They don't hit it. They don't have to be greens. That's that's that's true.

That's that's true. No, thank you. That's the point. Can we zoom in on the kisser thing? Because I was I was a little apprehensive of this just because I mean, I'm a fan of kisser. I think he's a fantastic personality. I was a little apprehensive of this just because I mean, I'm a fan of Kisner. I think he's a fantastic personality. And I was a little worried.

It was going to be a little ham and up too much. Not necessarily out of Kisner, but more amongst like co-hosts, like really trying to egg him on and just like overly laugh at everything that he says as if it was really outlandish. But man, was he just super measured and gave great quips and insights, a little story about each guy, but a little bit of technical stuff mixed into, like on Friday when he was on for the first time, I think it was, he was talking about what made Brian Harmon a really good chipper,

and he just, yeah, I mean, watch how fast he hinges his wrists right here, and like does, that was great. And I was like, whoa, man, that is a really good nugget. Like I watch golf all the time, I don't ever think about these factors. I need somebody to explain that to me. And man, to just have somebody that has relationships with all these players, his max note was fantastic

about what he was helping max with his putting or some point. And he's like, well, yeah, you aim wrong. You don't aim where you say you're aiming. And then you don't aim it. You don't hit it where you're trying to aim. So yeah, that's a tough. That is good. No.

It is not going about K.A. It came up to an hour and a half for the president's cup. I'm like, Hey, give me a lesson on putting on Bermuda. He's like, Oh, okay, well, shit. I don't know. I thought he was, that was about as good of a vibe in the booth as you could imagine. Kurt Byrum and him are a good combination too, just in kind of golf nerd and it out and smiley been on the ground as well. That was, this is as hard as we've been on NBC.

That was a very, very, very strong step in the right direction. And I know he's not done playing, but the more we can hear of kids in the booth, the better. As you were saying that, I was kind of thinking about it. I didn't love the idea of at first. I didn't love the idea of, oh, they're only having them here and Phoenix, I think, is the other one that he's doing

and like, are we going to get any consistency and yada, yada yada yada and seeing that and just hearing what you're saying about having a nugget about each guy and whatever. I think it's easy to run through those nuggets really fast if you're doing it every week. Tripot, where I almost, I almost, this is half baked but like I would almost think NBC maybe should just get

like a rotating cast of dudes. Like taking the pressure off of somebody signing up to do 25 weeks a year or whatever it is. Like get guys on three, four, five week stretches and kind of rotate them in and out. I know that's tough from like a production standpoint and not all the events are quite as laid back as Maui or whatever. But when you have them in the tower like that and talking so much like dude, that's a

big lift on these guys just as far as like Not saying the same things over and over not falling back into like oh shoot if he was playing me He'd make this one which is like too much Clearly, I was the one but that's what I mean is like that's probably the fallback right because he's just has to be talking all the time I almost wonder if they should just get multiple guys in there and like Get a you know you get five guys and maybe you get five times the stories and insight. And who knows? But I, but worthwhile experiment for sure.

Just depends if you can get four other guys that are, are good at it. Or else it's going to be tough on the, you know, you're going to be like, well, just bring kids in or back, right? If somebody's not as good. Sure. This is such a good idea. DJ, I remember when Joel sat in for one of the matches or the Netflix cup or something like that, I think he would be perfect

for this and like just literally forming the stable and rotating people through figuring out how it works with their schedule and making sure that they're fresh because it is extremely hard to have like fresh takes. We can't wake out. Even bring him in Thursday, Friday. I mean, solid. A lot of that shit you were just saying was that came from like, I believe like the Friday broadcast. When they had him in for like a short period on Friday, like even just something to spice up those, you know, those rounds because like I didn't, he was great today. I loved having him.

But I think that's weirdly like Sunday is almost the last time you need him when like the drama is kind of the drama. And you know, it's, you know, Chris Kirk or Speed him. When like the drama is kind of the drama and you know, it's, you know, Chris Kirk or Speed or Saw Heath, like let's just let the golf play out. But I think Thursday, Friday, it's hard to find a reason to watch with the current commercial load with all, you know,

all the things we've been talking about for a year and a half. It is a hard sell to get me to like sit down and watch in a player or somebody with a lot more insight would really help. I love him today, though, man. It was, he brought the right kind of, I don't know what the word is, but he would just, I remember him teeing up Kirk's putt on 16. I mean, it was just like the right amount of drama of like he's gonna, he's gonna put this right in the back. He didn't, but it was kind of like that, that kind of lead in anticipation is just, I don't know, I just,

I was, I was, and he didn't do an impression of an announcer, that kind of lead in anticipation is just, I don't know, I just, I was, I was, I was, and he didn't do an impression of an answer. Like he was just himself. And I don't know, I thought that was a really strong step in the right. Yeah, and it seemed like good chemistry with John Wood too. Yeah, yeah, would give me a read here. And there's a little bit of player caddy dynamic with that, which is cool. I feel like CBS was doing a pretty good job of this last year when they would bring in like, they brought in ROM. I can't remember which tournament and he ended up like staying on for like an hour, you know, 45 minutes and just kind of giving his insights to Nance and

Imelmond. I think, D. I agree with you, there's probably some different ways you could just get current players that maybe aren't playing quite as much. Like, yeah, fire them up for, you know, on a rotating basis. Max will be sweet. I mean, just when you finish around going the booth, it'll help you're pip rating. They really will. But I a couple of other things for NBC. I thought the graphics were really good with the elevation stuff. And you know, the hour, the commercial free thing at the end is awesome.

And I just don't understand why we can't do that graphic where they were popping up the Callaway like the kind of screen takeover. Why can't we do that with to replace a commercial? I almost think it's more valuable to sponsor. Stop. Stop giving them this idea, Neil. Oh, I'm saying.

No, this is what they're gonna do. It's not that intrusive. And it's better than playing through. through like I don't need to, you know, I drove on my years every every 15 minutes. I we've said this a bunch to about like particularly with the title sponsors when you go on and you see how much of the TV ad inventory is for the title sponsors like century insurance is yes, they're you they're doing this title sponsorship for, for part of that. But a lot of its entertaining clients, a lot of it is like the, you know,

being on site, a lot of that stuff, like, God, if they took half their TV ad inventory out, they would, like, nobody would notice a difference, right? And it just gives you so much more golf back and so much more chance to do, you know, on screen stuff, like you're saying, you know, but the only way that's going to go is they're just going to do that in addition to the current ad load. They're not going to take away ads. Like they're going to see that as a green light. If like, oh, we could just twist this in here as well and do it on top of everything else we're doing. That's the only way NBC would ever do that. So that's what I'm saying. Don't give them any ideas. But I will say it looked like they stepped up their give a shit a

little bit this week. Better camera angles. The drone stuff was really good. The plane stuff was really good. All their stuff they did on the Hina as well. And, you know, the, obviously, of the tragedy that happened there, the disaster that happened there five months ago and kind of all the stuff that's sentries doing. All that was working. I don't know.

It seemed like a, if there's was as, you know, not optimistic as I was about them going into this year, it was a nice start to the year. So I want to shout out my guy, uh, the CEO of century Pete McPartland. That guy was an absolute electric factory on the screen. I would, I would even consider him for one of those rotating analysts. Kodeman, you were going to flash it. Good, good time to mention. I, we had talked about it in the preview, just what an opportunity it would be for the tour, you know, some guys to highlight the actual charitable work going on, in part because of the, the horrible fire, not that long ago.

And I did think the the column more a cow a angle was was interesting on his Instagram. He shared he went and worked at this local farm. But I think more than that. He is sewing. I didn't realize Collins parents were from the area. His grandparents were born there. So just kind of tied it in. He hit the first t-shot Thursday morning. So it was it was a big week for for Colin and nice to see him at least getting out into the community and kind of embracing and highlighting some of the charitable work that goes on. And I should say, you know, I, I, I poked fun at the century CEO, but it really does seem like century is made a huge effort in and around that community. So good on them as well.

I didn't think you were poked fun at all. I thought that was genuinely. He was electric. I did like him. Sentry seems like an awesome tournament sponsor. I hope the tour doesn't, you know, own them and like Jack to rate up and they're like, we're not gonna do this anymore. They seem like they're pretty easy to work with. I wonder how that's gonna go, deal. I really, very, very, very, very, very, very, very good. I know. I'm worried.

Work should be, we'll love for you guys to come see the flower hole in Steven's point Wisconsin at, at Century World. It's a site to behold. Um, we, we touched on this first reported by No Layup on our Wednesday happy hour show, but John Rom and his family were vacationing on Maui around the resort, near the resort at the resort, uh, over this past week, uh, which was, was eventually picked up on by the, the, uh, crooked mainstream media. But, uh, did you call this one of the most sociopathic moves of our time? Do you? Maybe a bit of an exaggeration, but did you call this one of the most sociopathic moves of our time?

Do you? Maybe a bit of an exaggeration, but just I feel like there's a lot of people looking at this as like putting themselves in John Rom's shoes, which is, you know, a great, that's a great function of human empathy in most cases. But I would say most people didn't just sign a $600 million contract. And that's kind of more where I was coming from. It's like, hey, I know a lot of the players in this field have been working really hard, really hard to try to keep the PJ tour together and try to go out of their way to try to

go to meetings and try to bring in other investors and really try to like take control back for the players. But I'm going to go like the total opposite direction. I'm going to sign this contract with the people you guys are fighting against. And I'm just very publicly. I'm going to put the letterman jacket on. I'm going to do the whole thing. And then like anybody who thinks like, Oh, what's the big deal? Like he was just like going on vacation. Has never been to like this tournament. There's what, it's all like 17 other people there at a time. Like you run into everybody everywhere constantly and by reports, like, I don't know if they're like

beating up the tournament staff for like, like dinner reservations and stuff, just like really weird, really, really weird stuff. And so I would think if you just came into hyper-generational wealth, maybe eat that, eat that deposit. And- No, Deach, this is the perfect example of the pros they're just like us.

It's like, no man, we're- You got it already. It's alright, you know what I mean? There's no refund policy. Cancelation policy, we're outside the window, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, these specific days. It's hard to, you know, it's hard to move that around, I guess. I thought that's very weird. Am I the only one? It's like, I, no, it was extremely weird. Yes. And as it was reported, who was it? Fergie or maybe Dylan DeChair had a tweet about, you know, some, some mixed reactions with Rom running into guys. They didn't name names, but yeah, it's, I don't know, it struck me as very weird as well.

You're definitely not alone there. Can also report not all cool with all the players. Trust me. Yeah, it is not all cool. Yeah, that's, I mean, I think it'd be like the, the, the, the prodo typical, like you see Rom there. And it's like, like if ever there was a time for just like a cool man, like I think guys should just be hitting Ram with a cool man all week.

Like, oh, hey guys, yo, I ended up coming. Yeah, the family. It's like, oh, cool man. I'll buy the ball hanging out. I have a dad. Yeah. Good luck out there, guys. What'd you guys make of of Jay Day's new fit? Oh, man. I'm gonna press stand down on this one. Let me put this one. I think I'm gonna direct all comments to Tron Carter. I think it's accomplishing exactly what it's supposed to giving us the flash of picture of his pajamas up on the screen right here. I mean, I think they're going for the baggy look, but like, I don't know, just with the the default and the motive, there's just a lot, a lot of weird stuff going on. Just just across his sponsorship. I think this is, this is not directed to anybody in particular.

And I'm happy to be a whipping, you know, a whipping post for, for people who don't like this take. But there's a, there's a big, like, group of like the streetwear golf is like golf's getting cooler. And you just need to accept it type of people that are like just really, I don't know if they're trying, they might be trying to convince themselves at this point that like this is really happening and anybody who's mad at it, like you need to just take that shit elsewhere.

This is coming, if it is like, I don't know, Cody, if you want to put that back up, it looks very stupid to me, but what do I know, right? Like you don't have to listen to me, but I just, I feel like that's not it to, uh, to borrow phrase and I'm happy that they're out there trying it though. Good. Yeah, the, like, lunar pants on today, like, lunar gray. Like, like, just a little land on the moon.

I don't know. It's spices things. It doesn't offend me. I mean, I, I, I'm not gonna, I wouldn't probably wear what he's wearing. It's not, I don't want to go buy Alwin clothing. I don't think it's the offense is not what I'm worried about here. It's like, does it look good? No, it just, it flat out doesn't. I know part of the goal is, I'm out on the whole vibe of like, well, you're talking about it now, right? See, Major, look, you look at the ad bench, Randy, I know there's a favor. A lot of blue in there for you though, Sully. I'm surprised to be so out on it. I mean, it just whiffs of the hoodies on the golf course 2.0 to me. It was just like, God, people are so mad about these hoodies, man. They're so mad.

They're so mad that people are wearing hoodies, but they're just going to keep doing it. Like, I don't think anybody's mad. Nobody can't look. Like, they're just fucking stupid pants. Like, I don't, I'm not mad. I just think they look dumb. I just like, and a certain, like just, maybe he does.

Jason, do you enjoy looking like this? Like is this what you want to look like into your late thirties? If you do, that's fine. But if not, like isn't there an amount of money that you've made in your life that would make you want to say, like, no, I want to dress the way I want to dress. That would be my question, as it relates to this.

But maybe I just don't get it. Maybe I'll, I bet Dash is like, this is what all kids are doing. Dad, you should are they though? You know I'm bored, but he's also old. Dash is like, what do you think is funny? I'm not sure. That's why I think dash is some influence on this. Yeah.

I measure the passage of time by how old Dash day looks. Couple of, I will say here's maybe the last thing I would say. If Minwu Lee was wearing that, I think I would feel differently. I think I'd be like, ah day looks. Couple of I will say here's maybe the last thing I would say. If Min Wu Lee was wearing that, I think I would feel differently. I think I'd be like, ah, fuck. Okay, that's interesting. Because like, I think there's something there's something just aspirational

about fashion when you see somebody wearing something that like, ah, man, you know what, I couldn't do that. There's definitely no way I could do that. I feel that way about Adam Scott as well. When he does these crazy tonal pat, like, you know, palettes with unique love. I'm like, man, I could never pull that off. But he's like, Jason Day is not that guy in the world. So who would Jason Day is like, that's what I would look like if I wore those pants. Like, it's just a dumb.

Who would be the funniest to wear that outfit that, like his fit? Who would be the funniest guy? And is it wrong? Because it might be probably. Or or Seb Strocka. No, that came to mind for me too. Kind of like a call back to leash and all the like horrible eyes odd stuff he used to wear. Brendan Todd. Brian Harman, that would that would be pretty funny probably. That would look kind of cool. Look like cowboy. Like, can you picture like speed wear and something like that? I kind of wish speed would because I think like his shirt today from underarmament, they continue to what's going on to color? What

is this? What they're doing to our beautiful boys is a disgrace. It's an American tragedy really. The stuff that they've dressed and dressed. It's truly like fifth grade picture day on repeat. It's just not it's not good enough. It's not good enough. Clean enough the rest of our PGA tour news. Victor Hovlin has split with short game coach Joe Mayo. Um, don't really know. He Victor did not want to get into the details of that. I believe he told Todd Lewis. Um, don't really know. Obviously don't know any details because he didn't want to get into it. But that was very interesting, considering the enormously, he made in his short game. Um, but interesting one. Of course, the clip of him,

sculling one over the 14th green out of the bunker, made its rounds after he agreed to part ways with Joe Mayo. But don't know another story here, but that one might be worth keeping an eye on. So there's a weird thing that's going on just in sports writing culture, at least in golf, because I feel like in other sports,

like this story would just get found out. And in golf, it just never will. People are like, I don't know, I guess they doesn't want to talk about it. Well, it's not going to go away forever. Like imagine, you know, whatever. Imagine if some quarterback like splits with their quarterback coach,

like that guy's kindergarten teacher gets tracked down. And golf is just like, I don't know, man, I guess he just, I don't know. That's exactly back to your Scotty Shephler. You know, what have you been trying putting convert, you know, hypothetical conversation? Like if in other high profile sports, if like the best player in the league is really struggling with one facet of their game, they're going to be asked about it every day. You know, we're going to get the story.

I don't know. Right. I mean, he's trying. Like, I don't even know what to do. He's trying. I think it's getting better. Can I give you my total guess on this whole situation? Could not be less informed.

This is, couldn't be more anecdotal either. But Mayo's, he followed Hoffman around like attached at the hip, like really, really tight, following him every step of every practice route and all around the range and all that, like to an uncomfortable degree from what every time I saw it. And I saw him once the players with Victor was making the turn. And he was just like up on the rope line. And he's like, come on, Victor, new more nine, new nine, new nine, like screaming at him as he went to the 10th team. I was like, oh, this is a weird vibe here. And I,

I just wonder if that had eventually gotten to God to hovel. But whatever. No, of course, as you mentioned, so which listen, hand up like should, should we as the fake news media be working on these things? Yes, we should. And we'll, we'll effort that. We have a place to do that as well. It's not like that's all on everybody else. But I would also say shout out to Joe. I mean, he did good work with them. Hopefully the, you know, the chipping remains good this season. But what a turnaround story. Um, do you want to take us to another Hawaiian island this past weekend where I think the Luehels about to start here in a few hours actually, but T.C. was all worked up about

this this past week. This was a true must credit T.C. was all worked up about this this past week. This was a true must credit T.C. I believe from the desk of Tron Carter, but I hope I get this right. It wasn't officially, I don't know, I think he tweeted about it, but the PJ Tour has to do a rookie orientation every year for all the new players.

And this year, they chose to do that in at the Sony, which in most years would be no big deal and would be a great place to chose to do that in at the Sony, which in most years would be no big deal and would be a great place to do it because everybody gets into the Sony. It's, you know, got room for all the players in that category. This year, I forget what the exact numbers are, but isn't it something like 13 of 27 or something? Don't get in.

I think only 13 or 14 of 30 got in of the few school grads in the 25 corn fairy grads, which means that all those people who did not get in have to fly to Honolulu to go sit in a conference room for this meeting the day before then going to play the Monday qualifier to try to get into the event. Just a, you know, I'm sure there's a reason. I'm sure the the tour would be happy to provide a number of, you know, justifications for this. I believe they did cover their economy travel to Hawaii to go do this.

But man, just from a, like, just take like three steps back and just look at the big picture here, probably not what the rookies want to be doing. This is fly-no-y to go sit in this conference room. I think we saw the schedule. It was like nine, 10 hours of meetings or something. And a lot of this is like media training. And you know, like, where does the money come from?

Where's the money come from? Where's the money go? PGA tour 101, like how does the business work type of like pretty bureaucratic stuff? And then yeah, I believe there's a lieu out that starts just about now in the afternoon, just a really peculiar decision. I don't know if there's something in the bylaws

that like they would have to do this before the first event or something. I don't know why you wouldn't wait until next week at the AMACs when I'm guessing most like all of these guys get in, but just a really weird situation all the way around. I don't know if he gives any more thoughts on that. It's a real good microcosm of just how like just unsustainable, inefficient.

What are we doing? Like, why fly everyone in the middle of the Pacific when we could wait one week? What are we doing? Or why didn't we do this like in Jacksonville like two weeks ago? You know what I mean? Three weeks ago? Yeah. You know what I mean? Three weeks ago. I don't know. I mean, I guess we had, I don't remember when Q school was.

That was like mid-December. Why not do it like the Monday after Q school? You got your cards like just linger for another day. We're going to do this orientation. I don't know. It just seems like not a good decision. But maybe the, I guess they're probably looking at it as, I mean, we're paying you

to come out and do your Monday call fire. Basically, and what would have been an expensive trip now is paid for by the tour, I guess, but like, I don't know, but a huge flaw in like all this stuff is like, they don't, there is no week where everyone's all together. Like, there just isn't one. Like, that's just not how professional golf works at the highest level. And I don't know how this typically works. Is this a new thing that they do? Or is it always this week and just everyone is in the field at Sony is?

I don't know. I don't know the answer to that. So. Good make video conference. That's my missing something. That would be my first question as a rookie. Guys, I'll just dial in. Do you guys have a Zoom? Yeah, share the link with me. Yeah. Um, this camera off. Yeah. This was from Andrew Pantazzi on Twitter.

Uh, he had, uh, released that a Jacksonville federal judge ruled today. The Patrick Reed will have to pay brandel shambly and new outlets. Uh, I'm as soon as supposed to news to say news outlets, who he sued for alleged defamation when he was criticized for his involvement with Liv. The court found Reid brought the meritless lawsuits in order to stifle free speech. Mr. Clayman has made it very clear that they will be appealing, of course, but absolutely shocked to hear that this claim was meritless and that they will have to be paying the attorney fees of all the people he tried to sue.

So this is going back to our awards that we did on, you know, the preview pod Larry claimant first half all star trying to, you know, he's now gone to another he's he's gone 11 hitless games now, Randy. And he's he's out there talking afterwards. But like, no, don't worry. I'm close. We're going to find this. But it's just you can't argue with the results, man. There's just no production. No, no. I'm not the risk of catching a lawsuit. Yeah, I'm not really in a big mood to the comment on any of this. So I have everything's alleged. Of course, everyone's on. I'm on claimant's email list somehow. And he's he's real big on all caps home homey homie sends everything and all caps with big long paragraph subject life. Let you know the news of the day. That is interesting.

It's interesting. Yeah. I wonder where that should we head to a new segment. We've got for this year. I'm excited about this one. I guess you know, it's early in the year. We don't have too many Mulligans to have just yet, but listen and golf. When bad shots happen, there's a Mulligan ball. When fire, water or other damage happens, there's serve pro. Thankfully, the pros at serve pro know how to make any mess both on and off the course, like it never even happened. We're going to use this segment all year long to check in to request Mulligan's when we want a call back, a May a culpa, if you will, on a take that we've had. And I'll go first and this one, I'll volunteer, I'll stand up here and apologize, if you

will, or ask for a Mulligan to say, when I come in a Wednesday on the Rory interview, I read all the trans, all aggregation of Rory's appearance on the stick to football podcast. I saw the bizarre victory laps on Twitter. And now I'm even more confused. I went and actually listened to the episode this past weekend. Golf.com called it a stunning reversal of Rory's stance on live. There's almost nothing at all

representing any kind of reversal on live. There's almost nothing at all representing any kind of reversal on this. Phil, of course, took to social media to take a victory lap on this. This is the part that he was taking a victory lap on, which was worried saying, I think what live has done, it's exposed the flaws in the system of what golf has because we're all supposed to be independent contractors and we can pick and choose what tournaments we want to play. But I think what live in the Saudis have exposed is that you're asking for millions of dollars to sponsor these events and you're not able to guarantee to the sponsors that the players are going to show up.

I can't believe the PGA tour has done so well for so long. End quote. This is not new. Like they said this as of like August of 2022 when they came up with a new structure for PGA tour events to say like, Hey, we are going to go to sponsors and say, here's who's going to show up for your events. And here's how we're going to create value and all of this. Like this was not a stunning reversal. So Phil took that and quoted and said, this quote, and many others made by Roy today probably weren't easy to say, let's not use this as an opportunity to pile on. Rather, it's time

for me and others to let go of our hostilities and work towards a positive future. Rom signing is turning into a bridge to bring both sides together as evidenced by the many comments today and a month ago about changing the rules for the rider cup so John and others can play. So let's use it as such. Until an agreement is reached, it will be business as usual for both sides, but hopefully without the needless disdain.

So the guy who drew up the bylaws of this breakaway league and the guy that started a lawsuit titled Michelson at all, uh, verse the PGA tour now wants to let go of all the hostilities because of this stunning reversal, um, from Roy McElroy. Greg Norman, uh, said the reason I say I appreciate Rory to fall on his sword to some degree is the fact that he did judge us by not knowing the facts. He judged us on other people's thoughts and opinions. I say, Hey, thank you, Rory. This is a significant turning point for everybody. And Brooks Capca also took the social media to do a sipping team meme, the Kermit sipping team meme as if Rory had changed his stance on

all this. But man, guys, if you list that interview, that was not what was included in there at all. The one comment he did say was the one thing he kind of reflected on. He said, I was maybe a little judge, mental of the guys who went to live golf at the start. And I think it was a bit of mistake on my part because now I now realize that not everyone is in my position or in Tiger Woods' position. So I think that he's speaking to the polters or GMax or whatever it might be to say, like, look, maybe I was a little hard on you guys for going.

You're not getting bank, making bank like your boy over here is and maybe you need that stenson. Stenson was broke, he had to go, we know that. But he also said this, I don't begrudge anyone for going and taking the money and doing something different but don't try to burn the place down on your way out. I think it's just created this division that will hopefully stop soon because I think it's the best thing for golf too.

So to that, I would ask Mr. Mikkelsen, which of these two categories do you think you would fit in in terms of, you know, maybe the guys that aren't financially well off, you recently took to Twitter to claim you're almost a billionaire now, or maybe like, also is referring to the guys like don't burn the place down in your way out. Like Mikkelsen at all might have, you know, I would tend to think you might fall into that category. So I'm ready for this, this weird, just grandstanding propaganda machine to just, I'm ready for all this to be over and done. It's so nauseating to just the the ounce of grace that Rory showed in this to bikes. Look back and like, you know what? I was, you know, a little bit, you know, high on my own horse, a little bit of paraphrasing, of course,

on kind of my stance on I viewed things through the lens. I wanted to see them. He never complimented live. He never complimented the format. Never said a positive thing about the league. Never said anything about the hope for the future other than say, maybe it'll be its own separate part of the season at some point, like a two-month sprint. At some point, it was not to say live golf is taking over or that it's been a positive thing for the golf world at all. He said competition was good for the PGA tour, but it was not a reversal in any means. And I would like my mold again, because I definitely, I read the aggregation going into Wednesday and did not represent it very fairly. So hand up on. I appreciate you whipping that around the entire time. I'm like, what is, what are you?

I apologize if you're not having this information when we went to Arrow Wednesday. I was only reading the headlines. He's not reading the articles. I apologize for only reading the headlines. That's my fault. I'm supposed to be above that. And I was not, I hate when people do that with our show and take the context out of it. And I strongly recommend that everyone go and actually listen to it if you want to have an opinion on this story. So hand up, guys, that's on me.

I'll, I'll, I'll look at mold again on that. Well, you never even happened. Exactly. Well done. All right, I can go next. I'm not, my mind's not nearly as serious, but I did, I did credit on our trap draw goals podcast. It is the reapier. I credit it, Clarence Thomas with the quote, I know it when I see it in reference

to what constitutes pornography. That was in fact, Justice Potter Stewart's quote from his opinion on the 1964 Supreme Court case, Jaco Bellis versus Ohio Randy. So I just want to, I want to issue an apology. I would like a mulligan with with Justice Stewart and shout out to his family. Yeah. And I, I almost would take half of my mulligan on that. I feel like we should have known that too. You know, we should have called you off that one and that, that's, that's a tough one. I always thought that was a Clarence Thomas. You know, I thought that I heard you say it so many times. I thought that wouldn't that one to do existence, but it's just as hot or steward. So I wanted to correct the record there.

Good stuff. Randy, you want to go next? Sure. Mine is very much not serious. And in fact, has nothing to do with golf because I got nothing to walk back. Boys, I'm patten of thousand in lieu if if people are not familiar with the trap draw That's our other very serious podcasts would do here at no laying up this week is going to be another ball-nowers football edition Where we're gonna be talking a lot about the NFL and in that vein I need to make an apology to Jordan love quarterback of the Green Bay Packers He I

I have not believed the hype all year. I've gone on record saying I think he stinks. And I'm here to make a total 180. I want to walk that back over his last seven games this season, including today's victory over the Chicago Bears. My guys is complete in about 70% of his passes, 68.9 to be exact. He's throwing 16 touchdowns, one interception. I'm going to say that I'm going to play in the NBA. I'm going to say that I'm going to play in the NBA.

I'm going to say that I'm going to play in the NBA. I'm going to say that I'm going to play in the NBA. I'm going to say that I'm going to play in the NBA. I'm going to say that I'm going to play in the NBA.

I'm going to say that I'm going to play in the NBA. I'm going to say that I'm going to play in the NBA. I'm going to say that I'm going to play in the NBA. I'm going to say that I'm going to play in the NBA.

I'm going to say that I'm going to play in the NBA. I'm going to say that I'm going to play in the NBA. I'm going to say And I want to apologize to him, green bay Packers fans and our good friend Bob Sturm. I'm hoping my dis taste for Jordan love will go away like it never even happened. Neil. Wow. Well done. Hey, that's big of you, Randy. Well, that's good stuff from all of us in the day. Check out the trap for all this week. For more hot NFL takes. Mine, I honestly haven't had a bad taking it in a full year.

So I'm going to go all the way back to, you know what really stuck in my crawl, Neil is I'm going to go back and apologize. I would love to, to issue a May of Culpa for my play on the Bay course one year ago. I've been thinking about it. You know, my wife played exceptional golf in the match between Pihowski's versus Schuster's and I just completely let her down. It was my first round with new equipment. I'm top and drives.

I'm just, you know, I'm just beside myself, invasion of the body snatchers stuff out there, punted away, you know, took an L to the Schuster's and I just haven't stopped thinking about it. So I would like to issue a may a culprit apology for for my play. I know there's no way to really make this one. Like it never even happened. The video evidence is out there.

The only way to do that would be to challenge you to another match. Maybe we can get that on the books for this spring or summer. But that that really came back in full force. As I'm here in Kisner and smiley talking about going out to the Bay course and having a great time. I'm seeing all the, all the, you know, people posting photos from the Bay course. I'm like, ah, I got a, you know, I got to issue statement about this because I don't think I ever really did. And bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, that's what I had to say. It seems like Justin has been playing a lot more golf than and will continue to then my wife Carson. So you

I don't know if I want to schedule that match. I might need to do a. In that case, I would issue the public, public pressure on deal to get back in the arena to get his wife, you know, get her out to the range, you know, get that baby dialed and then get her out to the range and then, you know, we'll set it date. I'll pass along the note after this. All right, thanks. All right, Neil, we're going to

throw it to you next. You missed our our preview or happy our show on Wednesday. We did some superlatives from 2023. We did some predictions for 2024 and the people wanted to hear your superlatives and your predictions as well. So you're

going to give them to us right here now, which is of course Chris Kirk and win a signature event. I believe it was one of your predictions you had. No, it was not. Um, but I, I, I listed to the, to the season preview was bummed I couldn't make it on Wednesday, but I loved, I loved all the stuff you guys brought up the, uh, tiger,

tampon incident. I totally forgot about that. The first hat Larry claimant stuff was great. Randy, I, I had it on my list on Wednesday. I had a bagged milk award. And I just wanted to call out the Canadian Open for Nick Taylor making that putt. I think that was like kind of the lasting memory I had.

Like what an epic finish that tournament. And it was good to see the Canadian Open finally catch a dub after getting bodied by the PGA tour two years in a row. And you know, they're gonna, they're gonna get a lot of mileage out of this. They changed their logo and included the silhouette of Nick Taylor in there. And as they should, you know, normally I'd probably make fun of something like this of like,

oh, you've taken, you know, kind of whiffs of like, let's take the blocky stuff and run with it. But I think this was, this was kind of cool. And I like this logo and I like what they're doing here. So I just wanted to, uh, to give them the, uh, the bag milk award. I had another one, the Frato award, no graphic for this one, but basically, Ches, I can't believe that he signed the Mule letter, but let me down like that. It's like, I broke my heart, but, you know, it is what it is. So I have a couple of big Reno guy too,

chest. Didn't we know he got to watch his back? No, no, I know. So the brain, that's a spoiler for Godfather too. The two awards I do want to give out the first is the annual prestige worldwide award given to the sponsor with the like the name you have no idea what they do. So past winners, of course, mega corp is the original prestige worldwide award winner. I think they have graduated from this bracket just with Harmon, when the open like you're getting so much burn with JT post in play and well. So I think they're firmly like people know it's it's logistics company velocity global one last year. So normally you can just kind of follow Billy Horsel around.

This year it's really a toss up between lineage, which is JT's shirt sponsor. Do you guys know what lineage does? Yes, because you asked JT's 60 questions about it. That was a big five times. What an incredible highlight. So if it's a frozen food logistics company, unbelievable. They got a big ass warehouse right here after you come over the bridge from

Staten Island, unbelievable. But I think I'm going to give it to BDO, which is Horses, newest sponsor. Do you guys know what BDO does logistics? But what I think what I was going to come up with was not appropriate financial services, close tax accounting services. Yeah, but I you know, just BDO like what is that? It's just a big ass letter is on a hat like I just I cracks me up when I see big dick oversight. Yes, big organization. What are what are we doing? Yo, we got a guy that works at BDO in the chat. Oh, yeah,

Brian, I'm happy to have you giving your shout out But you guys are the 2023 prestige worldwide award winners. Please take that back to you. Get your executives and let them know um, and then I I do want to award the worst commercial of 2023, which I think is just a gotta be unanimous you guys come on What do you think it is? RBC. Oh, no, not really. Really? The worst. No, the Dustin Johnson season aggressive pin commercial was that was a funny play 2d. That was an old while ago.

I feel like Geter won G. Daniel. Yeah. And Geter won. Come on. Yeah. When the ball flights are grounded and then he runs into the wolf halfway through. Like, that was running into the wolf.

That's the whole thing. Sees the wolf and it's in the woods. I just can't believe it. It's so undercoming of the captain to do this commercial and the song is just like, my wife hates me because I just constantly go, I get stuck in my head. It's awful. It's worse commercial of 2023. You guys have any nominees for this category.

I would, did you think about budget? The budget commercial has always made me angry. Oh, with the guy from maybe a chart flight. The private flight one. Yeah, the shark tank. I think L way, you know, the kid and the L way one was especially gratuitous. No, I use badger a lot. So I. The discount comes great. I kind of cracks me up

that like a private aviation company has such a budget commercial. You know, it looked like it was filmed on an iPhone. Are we sure, like, have you heard of that place that's in LA where the like the guy like made up the inside of a fake plan, like a private jet and he rents it out to influencers? That might be what badge it actually is. Like if you just need to fake that you're taking a private flight, like that might be how you do it. I don't know if I saw any commercials in 23 other than the Gator commercial. Yeah. I'm trying to think if I saw anything else. Nothing about lowering your A1C because that's that's the audience. It's the audience. That one's with the whole Broadway skit that,

but that's more like on 60 minutes. I don't see that one as much on golf Anyway, you know who needs to get together on Liberty Mutual. What's going on here with the emu like the mustache guy Like there's no worse vibe than when the commercial thinks that their characters are more beloved than they know It's just letting I don't get about the emu and and the guy who's, I don't care if there's a new guy, just it's kind of like the flow industrial complex. So now there's like a hundred, there's a whole flow extended universe. I got another nominee. I'm sorry.

The state street where I took me like 25 watches to understand like the tournament where they take away the middle clubs and on a guy and Fee now try to play that's that that might be the worst one. That's you know, I think I would nom worst one. That's, you know what? You know, I think I would nominate Neal. It's been out for a couple of years now, and it seems like a great organization, so I hate to pick on them, but volunteers of America,

that commercial always kind of through. With the guy like fighting himself in the street. Yeah, I would always kind of takes me. Oh, that's tough. Yeah, I'm just, no, thanks. On a, on a teller, next, you got more categories? No, that's it, but I have some predictions. On a teller next you got into more categories. No, that's it, but I have some predictions I'd like to share with you. Oh, well, I can't.

Please, please, sorry. There was one more. The garbage plate. This is what I'm naming. This was just a superlative for Scotty Sheffler of kind of like how bad his putting was and how historic his ball striking was. And I kind of like it to the garbage plate of like, man, that looks horrible, but apparently it tastes really good. Like it, it's still like despite like how

ugly the pudding was, he still was able to have like a historic season and what he won four times. Like the guys are total menace. So, Sally, with you, based on your predictions, I'm kind of with you on that. I think Scotty might take over the world this year, even if his pudding sucks. It's kind of wild, but I don't think he's going anywhere because he's doing this and it's putting sucks. It feels even more sustainable, which is wild to me. Interesting. All right.

So I got a couple of predictions. You guys asked for newcomers. I have this on what is the scrap. So what the hell is happening award? Is that an award or that's a prediction? No, I'm going to move on to Cody. You can scrap that one. I don't even know that one.

That one's stupid. Why do I put that one on the table? Stupid. Thank you. Sam. No, you guys asked for who's going to be like kind of make a leap? I got my eyes on Leo Harvey Oswald from Danny McCarthy. I think he kind of strikes me as maybe the next country music sensation with Severic Cole.

He hits the ball great. Seems like he's got just enough distance to compete pretty much everywhere on tour. So I keep an eye on him. I also want to call out that I prediction can't be keeping eye on him. What's your prediction for him? Well, no, that was more of a newcomer. That's not a prediction yet. You guys, you said at the end of the pod, like, like pick a newcomer. I don't mean to hang out here.

He's been on torsons 2018. Okay. Number 35 ranked player in the world. And I was going to say, I was going to say that too. Isn't one, how could he turn into Eric Cole? When Eric Cole turned more into Danny McCarthy? Maybe. All right. bad take. You're going to apologize on the next month's shirt. Sorry. Okay, this is a prediction. I predict that these three guys are going to win this season. All three of them. Bo Hossler, SungJM and Russell Henley. Okay, sure. Okay. And I think I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm saying, just 25. I got it. I'm feeling maybe a breakout with sort of a breakout.

He's trending. He's playing really well. Yeah. Well this week played well in late in the fall. You know, people forgotten him to start doing stuff. He's got to go. Yeah, it's not. I'm ready to, you know, I'm more I'm like, we got to get hit the whole at this point. So, and I feel like Bo Haasler is also kind of sniffing around. Maybe a win and a kind of a second tier event at some point. And I think Russell Henley is just going to keep doing what he does. Like, oh, yeah, maybe go win the Honda and, you know, continue to, you guys won't recognize

me in the airport, but I'm going to make like $75 million over the course of my career. So those three guys are going to win. I predict, I think Justin Thomas is going to win at Valhalla. I think it fits. It to win at Valhalla. I think it fits narrative. Say again, crack, models are off the charts. I think, you know, kind of has a knack for the PGA championship. So I'm going to throw that one out there.

Randy, of course, I love your Rory prediction at Valhalla, but I feel like JT. I'm pretty bullish on JT next season. And I also predict that Matt Fitzpatrick is going to win his second US open at Pinehurst number two. I think it sets up really well for him when he likes to wail on driver. And obviously he's a grinder. I just kind of have a I got a feeling, a crunch off feeling about about it's he doing it again. He looked bulky this week. The speed, the speed training appears to be continuing.

Yeah, which I think sets up well for that course. And then of course, Nelly's going to win a major. So we're going to take another one on a year for 11, where years, baby. Hey, let's go slow and steady. And then I'm not ready to make a master's call. I'm really struggling with this one, but I've narrowed it down to four guys.

So that kind of a prediction, but I think Scotty, Rory, can't lay or Jason day. It can only be one of those four. The masters. And I will make a pick before the masters, but I kind of have a weird feeling about Jason day. I've always thought that Augusta fit his game really well.

He puts it well. I think he deserves a lot of credit for a comeback last year. And he seemed, you know, he played well this week. So well, maybe we'll see him in his in his lunar pants out at Augusta doing big things this year. I feel like he's finishing the top five like 10 times. That's it. That's all I got for you. Uh, good stuff one. Yeah, thank you, Neil. Thank you. No, I'm back on the SunJ thing. I almost gave SunJ a superlative. I had him. I was trying to think up Rick Barnes Memorial. Nobody does consistently. Does less with more. And SunJ was going to be my recipient for that. I agree with that. It's pretty frustrating. I mean, I feel like he, you know, we don't really, you know,

kind of I feel like Zander, same deal, right? I feel like I'm with you, Randy, he said it on the Wednesday show, like, can't lay. It's about the only thing left, he has to win a major. Like, there's not, yeah, like, I don't think winning the player is really makes him anymore, you know,

doesn't make him any more special. Like he's he's plateaued until he wins a major. So I feel like he has he's another guy that has to get one of those this year. I think that's right. Yeah. Um, on our goals pod, which you can also catch on the trap draw, we, uh, we made a point this year to, uh, just quote, celebrate dubs as they come along. We create a slack chain home about celebrating your dubs or your W's if you're, if you don't know what dubs stands for. But just maybe, I don't know if we do it weekly or whatnot, but we'll have to do a check

in as we can. Any, any dubs you want to celebrate this week? DJ, well, you, I don't want to steal your thunder, but guys, I, I want to pat myself on the, on the, on the back yesterday. I woke up at 4.45 a.m. on a Saturday in order to beat the traffic to drive up to Vale to ski a powder day yesterday. So that is me giving myself a dub. It was a great day. And it was a great day. Hell yeah, Randy. I'll see you for the lifelines. Beat the lifelines. Yeah. That's great, Randy. I'm on a, I'm on a seven day workout streak, 10 plus strain.

So we're, we're on our way to 31 straight, 10 plus days. And we're 14 miles into our 500 mile quest. So we're doing, we're doing some things. Randy, yeah, I'm sweating last night. I woke up this morning. I got to work out in the day, even though I didn't really want to. So starting to get the habit in there. Hell yeah. Dubs. Did you get a downward thing? Yeah, for a dub. I got, I got my first, or first official oil painting in the books for those

that haven't listened to the pot. I was, I was just a rapturous in my, in my, a claim for Bob Ross, apparently a big deal. 400 some episodes of the joy of painting. I stumbled upon one at my in-laws on Christmas even was just transfixed and so I was like, you know, I think I'm going to go to the paint store where we get back and just buy a bunch of stuff. And so I bought a bunch of stuff, went down to the basement for a couple of hours, crank some tunes, Neil, and spun up a, spun up a painting, one of 12. I was going to do one a month. And so, uh, yeah, just out there making, making some happy accidents, uh, down to the basement. So happy, happy with the results of number one.

Uh, D. D. I was very impressed with your painting. That was really good. That was really good. I would love to take more credit. I, this is the genuine situation of like, if you just follow the instructions, it's really hard to mess it up. I cannot. I will. What you do. I hope nobody does.

So nobody sees that like, oh, actually, that was way easier than it that it looked. Uh, but thank you. No, I will see. Cody, I don't know if you can whip that painting up in time, but that would be, I'm sure the people would love to see that. But guys, I had a dub today. I shot two under and I'm absolutely tickled. I, score is posted. It dropped my handicap by 0.6 shots. It was a hybrid tea. It wasn't even a blue. It wasn't an up tea. It was a hybrid tea, three-plated par and had a water ball in there too, but shot

37, 33 this morning at Tim Aquana and I it's, it's common. It's actually, it's two rounds in a row under par. I haven't done that in probably close to three years now, but it's starting to come out the window had a great lesson. And I'm, I'm really, I'm tickled with how it's going right now. But on a better note, Cody does have the photo of DJ's painting if you want to see it. It's oh, look at that. So good. Great podcast audio here for the car. I got to watch live.

You got to do both. Yeah, give us a view on both. Give us a download on both. It's just a view out DJ's house in Milwaukee. That is gorgeous. Like, like, Michigan's the Wisconsin River there. Is it actually did Bob say it was like a specific mountain? No, I think he's heavily influenced by Alaska and his time there.

But, you know, so I think it's just kind of a random. That's the other thing is there's 400-some episodes. They're pretty much all the same. They're usually mounted in some water, in some trees. But so I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to figure out a way to usually mounted in some water, in some trees. But so I'm gonna have to, I'm gonna have to figure out a way to keep it, you know, keep it interesting. Cody, did you know Bob Ross was a 20 year military guy?

Master Sergeant in the Air Force. Drill Sergeant. I did. I grew up watching Bob Ross like religiously. I think for me and my good friend Craig Miller, which he listens to the podcast, we're in shout out there. like religiously. I think for me and my, uh, my good friend Craig Miller, which, uh, he listens to the podcast, we're, we're shot out there. But we actually used to, uh, skip the period immediately after lunch, we would go get some taco johns, shot out to anybody

that get a shout down on some. Talk about it. Oh, like, yeah, Tater tots. Yeah. Potato lays respect. All right. And, uh, and we probably like smoke something that we weren't supposed to just watch Bob Rossini burritos. It was so fun. There's so many days I wish I could go back 20 years ago now and just be like, man, just put me right back there. It's, it's so relaxing. Can't we'll say this they're all on YouTube for free as well. DJ, I have attempted this one time, you're making it sound a lot easier than it actually is. This is a masterful job. And really thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I was pretty impressed by that. I'm going to I've been watching a lot of YouTube stuff. My goal by the end of the year, we're

adjusting for some sub goals. I think just to show like how untalented I am, I'm going to I'm going to do a portrait just to show what that looks like and embrace the full George W. Bush a Self-portrait I don't know about a self-portrait, but I'll do a portrait of someone Maybe I'll recreate his Putin portrait somebody's asking you to recreate the Icarito painting Icarito, yeah, yeah, I was gonna say like whoever wins the FedEx cup. You should do a portrait Maybe whoever wins maybe whoever wins Taurus FedEx, Cubby, you should do a portrait of everything. Maybe whoever wins, maybe whoever wins Taurus sauce.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. On that note, a bit of an announcement for our loyal listeners. We'll be taking a bit of a break on the Sunday recaps. I believe it's going to be three straight Sundays. The boys are- We will be taking a break.

The episodes- The episodes keep going. We will be turning the reins over to Kevin Van Volkenberg and a rotating crew that will be co-hosting with him on the Sunday nights. But we are off to film season nine of Taurus sauce. We are about six months behind when we usually film it. We usually space them out by one year. But this one for a variety of reasons is spaced out 18 months. So Taurusus was constant. We'll be kicking off here quite soon here to wrap out the round up the month of January episode. Stop timing, big snowstorm Kevin here.

They'll brought to you by our friends at Precision Pro episodes will be out in a few months, but if you don't hear from us for quite some time, the episodes will be here. Keep downloading, keep listening, but we will be rotating out and stepping away from pro golf for a little bit and much, much, much need to break and very excited to get to our destination, which is, of course, of course remaining a secret. We're not saying so quit asking. Yeah, we're quit asking. It's a total Scotty putting situation. I don't know what exactly right. Yeah. Or really a hovelin joe mayo situation. A couple other things we had to track.

But I mean, I mean, come on, use your imagination. It's it's fucking January 7th. It's like, where do you think we're going? Come on. You all ever seen the Red Sea? Yeah. Uh, trap draw goals podcast is live. It if you're wondering why we're calling out dubs,

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It's going to be a absolute banger this year. Very excited about that. So we'll have normal episodes coming out every week during the week as well as we'll as we mentioned continue to have Sunday night episodes. But we thank you guys for tuning in live. Cody, thank you for running the ones and twos. See everyone live in the chat. Everyone listening in their car,

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