No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 787: LIVE from the range at the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
Episode Date: January 30, 2024Live from the range at Pebble Beach for the first time, the guys chat about the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am, welcome some guests including Kira K. Dixon and Max Homa, chat about their Australia tip, and ...what they've seen on the range here at Pebble. We'll be back for another live show from Pebble on Wednesday from 11PM ET to 2PM ET. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Expect anything different. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the No Laying Up live show
for the first time ever live at the range at the AT&T
Pebble Beach Pro Am.
Salih here, to my right.
Mr. Icarito, Neil Schuster.
Hello, Neil.
How are you?
Good morning, Chris.
Great being with you, as always.
TC is here. Good morning, TC. Early on the West Coast. We got our guy Cody on the ones and twos back here.
Bought some influencer lights last night. Yeah, we got the whole influencer kit. It's early on the West Coast.
It's late on the Australian coast, so the boys' bodies are a little in disarray, but we're here. We're excited.
Under 45 seconds on the first Australia mention,
we're going to talk about our golf trip for the next five hours and 45 minutes
in this golf tournament for probably 15 minutes. No, but we are out here.
Of course, at the Pell Beach Pro,
and we're going to be doing this live show. If you're listening to your podcast,
this is done very live and very informally.
We're going to be bringing some guests in. We have two schedule for that.
Or maybe we don't know.
I don't know if they're going to show up or not're gonna pit points right we're gonna be we have a five
o'clock free crack giveaway for pit points here at the range for anyone
that wants to vibe I think we just have to put everyone through the vibe test as
they walk by if we yell at them I think we just stare at them just stop talking
and kind of stare at them as they go by maybe they'll come through and be like
oh am I supposed to if you're waiting for me am I supposed to be yeah yeah you're
supposed to be a few a few things to watch for.
We've got the range bathroom right here.
Some people are going to be walking into the shot here.
Say, hey, come on, come through.
Come through.
Come get involved.
We've got a seat for you.
Be a lot of these.
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.
We'll be kind of milling about bringing in guests
and DJ's chair.
The requirement is, if you go out to the range,
you have to come back with three nuggets.
Yeah, nuggies. Nuggies, three nuggets of information. Can't come back. Can't have to come back with three nuggets. Yeah, nuggies.
Nuggies, three nuggets of information.
Can come back and kill you.
In tangible nuggies.
Yeah, can be anything.
There's a guy out here chasing crows away.
Or real nuggies.
If you find real nuggies, you can bring those back too.
True.
The guy chasing crows has the best job on the range.
Yeah, real nuggies.
I think, uh, Smeeth is playing with the CEO of McDonald's this week.
That's true.
Exactly.
Some chicken mick nuggies.
We've always wanted to do this, a live show from the range.
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changes everything AT&T Cody Cody. What do we go from 30 upload?
Megabits per second to 800 once we put that hard wire in I mean we might be plugged into the mothership out here
It's faster than TCS in his in his garage. Definitely faster than Randy's definitely that's why Randy wasn't allowed
ATT was like now man. You're good. Your connections gonna make us look bad
Guys pelwich pro aims gonna look a little different this year teach He was like, no, man, your connection's going to make us look bad. Can't do that. Guys, Pebble Beach Pro-Aim is going
to look a little different this year.
Deige, why don't you give for those that aren't caught up
as to what's happening here this week?
Why don't you?
Of course, we are out at a designated signature elevated
event here at Pebble Beach for the first time.
We're going to see the best players in the world.
I think a field of 80, I believe.
No cut, as Neil found out as we were coming on the air.
Is it gas?
Didn't find out.
Reminded myself doing a little read
through the scouting report this morning.
It's going to be very different.
There's far, far, far fewer celebrities.
We're going to see some athletes, some pretty premier
athletes, I would say, in the field this week.
We're going to still see a lot of people who paid big ticket
cost to play.
Will we see them on TV as the question? We might not see them as much. And we know, cost to play them on TV is the
question. We might not see them as much and we're only going to see them
Thursday and Friday. So no amateurs on Saturday and Sunday. We're down to two
golf courses, just pebble and spyglass, which is, I mean, I love MPCC, but it's
less moving parts, probably a better TV product, probably a better like player
experience. Just should be, should be Dallas, kind of a lot of the stuff we've
been really asking for, I think at this tournament begging for last decade. Well, I think Gary Muldier
Although we haven't gotten the amateur list. No Kenny G. I love his music
TBD on Kenny G
Ray Romano, sir your friend bill. Well, yeah, my friend bill and I both did not make the cut on getting invites this year
but I Sure. Your friend Bill? Well, yeah, my friend Bill and I both did not make the cut on getting invites this year.
But this event has kind of always been a shining example, I think, in terms of what the PGA tour
started out as versus what it has become. It's an amalgamation of hyper-local events
that they're trying their best to make into one big package media product.
And so, you've said this for years and years
we've you know kind of ribbed on this tournament a little bit and
And you've said that's a free. Yeah, exactly when you've always said when you're there
It's incredible and like that's kind of representative of what's always been like everybody watch on TV
Just fly out there and go incredible celebrity flow and all these things
But like on television it was kind of like a bit of a struggle, but
We have an update from the code man
oh thank you gosh I'm in the middle of a speech here we'll get to mustache content
I take care of second but anyways kind of maybe maybe the the new look PGA Tour more is thinking of things as it's going to be.
Sometimes it's time for a change, you know?
Is going to be looking a little bit more
like a made for television product, right?
This structure of golf tournament is more made
for television than PGA Tour events have been in the past.
Which I think is interesting and I hate to say complicated,
but I mean, so we're talking to our guy, Matt Golden, who's here, help us out with some video
stuff. Happy birthday, by the way.
Happy birthday, Matthew.
Birthday.
Uh, he was talking about his Uber driver on the way over.
She's like, I'm protesting the tournament.
There's no celebrities this year.
Like I'm out on that.
That's what this is all about.
And I think it's like easy to kind of like roll your eyes when
you have only watched it on TV, right?
And you've only say like, hey, build it for me.
This is a TV product.
It is very much one of those things
that's caught in the middle between the old PJ Tour
and where I think the new PJ Tour is probably going.
So it's a bit of a weird kind of transition spot,
but I think as far as the vast, vast, vast, massive majority
of golf fans, I think it's about to get a lot better.
I certainly hope so.
I mean, there's what?
30,000 people in attendance, 15,000 people in attendance, and there's a couple million
people watching throughout the week.
So I think, you know, that balance.
Yeah.
But it's a weird balance between like, I mean, you saw probably playing in it last year,
like between the host organizations and who puts on the tournament and why they put it on
and what they get out of it is, like, very different than what
the TV, you know, consumer gets out of it.
So it's just an interesting thing.
You got Cam Young.
Cam Young.
Welcome in.
Cam Young.
Hell yeah.
Great flow.
Yeah, it does have a great flow.
Got some of the Ams warming up behind DJ over here.
Some decent swings.
We're going to be a musician or cameras.
Nothing but Ams swings.
It's going to be the best players in the world if we see some of these swings over DJ's shoulder.
We've got a tanimal out here.
This guy on the right here, dressed in all tan,
looks like he must be some sort of high-powered CEO
with the tourvisor on.
Just kidding.
It's game middle.
I'm excited for this week, man.
Well, just, Pebble Beach is incredible.
Like, it is a course that a lot of people
have a lot of memories of, either playing or watching on television or watching the
U.s. Open or Tigers U.s. Open and it just didn't make sense to like come to this tournament every year and not have the best players in
The world play in it, right? Like we're gonna see Roy McIlroy play six seven eight at Pebble Beach this year, right?
And that just feels like it feels like it should happen more at least once a year
You have to worry JT
Max oh
Speed like speed always played but Scotty yeah guys that wouldn't normally play
Hopefully pace of plays a little bit better this year with this with a smaller field
But yeah, it's you know, hopefully the weather cooperates forecast looking a little dicey
I think there's we're gonna get to atmosphere river content later in the show
I think you were maybe making it was I think it was you saying this yesterday about like they might be able to do some
Different things with setup so I haven't gotten to watch much the walk much of the golf course
But I was blown away
We drove walk past number four yesterday and four is usually a very wide fairway with kind of a not quite centerline bunker
But left center bunker and you kind of got to figure out
You got a couple of different
options as to how you want to play it.
The rough is brought in for the U.S.
opens and it was brought in for the U.S.
women's open.
So that centerline bunker actually sits in the rough and it looks kind of
silly because there's a bunker way down the left that is way deep in the rough.
But I don't know if they either never move that rough back after the U.S.
women's open or if they grew it in intentionally, but that was the only
hole I saw that it was like the rough is inside the bunker line On the fourth hole
It's all right
Regis as Braintal said that's the only way to test the players is is more thick rough. So I think not good
I think there's something interesting about Saturday Sunday. No Am's
Maybe they can make it a little more dicey and a little more, you know, just no more whatsoever on Saturday Sunday
Yeah, it's Thursday Friday Friday on the, yeah.
A lot of news flowing to this part of the table so far.
I knew that.
Don't pin that one on me.
It's tough.
It's like, I feel like some of this
I forgot about the no cut thing.
A few months ago, but it was never really announced announced,
and it's just drift out over the last.
It is hard that PJ Tour in general right now just
kind of feels like a, yeah, when I hear that for the the third time I'll let it sink into my head but the first time
I'm like yeah that's probably gonna change. It was super easy to get excited
about this format when it would look like you know when we when we that was
like okay here's the plan for the future the PJ Tour now we're still kind of like
I don't know what Progolf's gonna look like in two years so it's hey I really
hope these signature events work I I struggle to come up with a better way
than just like,
oh yeah, let's get the best players in the biggest events.
Like that still sounds like a really good idea to me.
Like a good start.
Yeah, that's a definitely good start.
And no, I don't think there's any names left out of this,
other than obviously the names that have gone to live.
But I don't think there's many names left out that I'm like,
man, this field needed to be bigger than 80 guys.
Like Hayden Buckley was the last man.
That is no offense to Mr. Buckley.
No, Keith Mitchell was the last guy in.
I think Keith Mitchell got in and bumped Hayden Buckley.
There's still a lot of like, he got in via the Aon Next Five.
He got in via World Ranking.
The Swing 10.
The Swing, yeah.
There's still a lot of, the erector said,
is somebody tore it all down.
And somebody started to slowly build it back up.
It's a lot of tech debt.
Concerning, but yeah, it would be nice if bad code on the on the qualifications
I read out among the additions to the eight man
Pro-M event or five players via the a on swing five Saturday's winner Matthew Pavon
Sony open champ Grayson Murray Christian Buzaden who Kevin you aka the soldier boy
And Steven Yeager, 54-hole leader this week
before a closing 72 knocked him out to a T3.
In Yeager's case, however, he was already
in pebble courtesy of his FedEx Cup
ranking after last fall.
Because pebble draws from number 61 and beyond in points
to get to 80 players, Yeager at number 61
was guaranteed a spot.
But with him taking a swing five exempts,
and Keith Mitchell is the beneficiary. Jager at number 61 was guaranteed a spot. But with him taking a swing five exemption,
Keith Mitchell is the beneficiary.
Mitchell at number 69, shout out to Adam Long,
is the last man in with Hayden Buckley, the first alternate.
Alex Noran, Thomas Dietre, Mark Hubbard, Eric Van Royen,
Brandon Wu, Davis Riley, and SH Kim
also qualified via last year's points.
Jake Nath and Nate Lashley, both T3 at Torrey
were the first two left out of the swing five.
Nashley tied for seventh in the race with Justin Thomas.
Thomas though will fill out the pebble field on Monday
through the OWGR World Golf Ranking updates.
Crooked OWG.
I don't know.
Did you get all that?
Just put the golf on TV.
So any mules out there that are unhappy that you didn't get in
here, there's a lot of guys in this field.
Seems like a lot of entry points.
Cub talk to TC.
Swing five.
Swing five.
A on swing five.
But all, God.
I'm gonna quote our guy, Mike Juan,
governance is hard.
It is, sir.
It's hard to keep a lot of people happy,
but it kind of seems like they're doing a pretty good job.
At least there is a process.
And at least there's like,
I mean, if it was a closed shop,
I think we'd be bitching about that, right?
If Matthew Pavon wins last week and he doesn't somehow get into this,
like everybody's bitching about that, Grace and Murray, same thing.
It's like, you gotta create all these doors and I think it does make for the best product.
Speaking of entry points.
We did, yeah.
We're gonna send DJ on his way a little bit.
We have three nuggies.
DJ's gonna go down the range, he's gonna come back with three nuggies.
We have a guest who I believe is going to be joining us.
We did have to make all the guests walk this
so people can slowly.
Traumatic who could it be?
Who could it be?
Of who is coming to join us.
We'll see you.
We'll see you.
We'll enjoy the walk.
Three nuggies.
Four sponsor exemptions this week out of Scott.
We'll talk about that.
We'll come back to that, I think.
Hogecoin's walking in as well.
Here we go.
Pass winner.
First guest coming on the show, Miss Keira K. Dixon from the Golf Channel in NBC.
Welcome, Kira. How are we doing?
This is actually AT&T Influencer.
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We have our influencer lights on.
Part two of this will be on Kira's channel. Make sure you like and subscribe.
Well, we're going to shift you a little this way and right into the mic.
We're doing it live here, folks. How are we doing? We're live. Yeah, we're live. We're live on the air right now. Did you not know that? Hi, guys. gonna shift you a little this way and right into the mic. We're doing it live here, folks. How we doing? We're live.
Yeah, we're live.
We're live on the air right now.
Did you not know that?
Hi, guys, how are you?
Good morning.
Thanks for having me.
I'm actually gonna take this off.
Yeah, that's probably best.
You all know.
That's probably best.
Yeah.
What are you up to this week?
So I'm just here today.
I was here yesterday.
I got to play in a golf event up at the Preserve.
Have you ever been up there?
Never been up there.
It is, they have like a 10 mile driveway.
It was beautiful.
So I highly recommend it.
I played in a little golf event up there
and today I'm hanging with you guys.
I got some stuff with AT&T and then I'm out of here.
But it's nice to do a quick drive by to see
my favorite place in the world.
And you've played in the past, correct?
Here.
Who did you play with last year?
Harry Hall, is that right?
I had Harry Hall last year.
I've had Zach Blair, Seth Reeves, and Ryan Armour.
And then there was the COVID year.
We, I didn't have a partner, but it was me,
Macklemore, Bill Murray, and Catherine Newton,
and maybe one other person, maybe Larry Fitzgerald,
just like the six of us, and we did a whiskey loop,
and that was pretty sick too.
That's, the request from our producers producers you pull this microphone just a little
bit closer to you. Here's the McRib is joining us.
Oh I love that.
The animal outfit.
Full animal outfit going here. How we doing?
Good to see you.
Channeling my 2010 Tiger Woods.
Oh that's exactly right underneath the tree.
Three wood under the tree.
You're gonna come join us today?
No.
Okay, that's a good one.
I figured that much.
Yeah, we're kind of set right now.
I'll come by.
All right.
Yeah, I mean, I think we could just spend the next three
hours just regaling our tails from playing in this.
I think that's what people want to listen to, probably.
All our stories.
Well, what's your favorite part of Pebble Beach?
The week.
Oh my goodness. Well, Sali your favorite favorite part of Pebble Beach the week oh my goodness
Well, sorry as you know, it's a pretty magical
experience when you're standing on
17t or you're standing under the tree on
18 fairway, and you're just looking out at this in the most beautiful place in the world And it's one of those like what did I do to deserve this? How did I get here?
place in the world and it's one of those like what did I do to deserve this? How did I get here?
That's the power of golf. That's the pinch me moment of like I've gotten to do so many things. I have no business doing just because of golf. There's no reason why I of all people should
be standing out on that fairway looking out at the most gorgeous thing in the world. So that's
probably my favorite part about Pebble Beach. And then you get to, so in my life, in my job,
I talk to these guys in a reporting sense,
and we're talking about their game,
or whatever's happening in the game of golf.
But in this case, I can actually play
and get to know them in a different way
and show them that I have this other side
that I actually play golf.
And so that gets you a different side of them
and then they can see a different side of me.
You're a golf junkie.
You got some, what have you been working on in your game?
I've been seeing some lessons on your Instagram lately.
You've been into it.
Okay, so.
How much time you got?
So if anybody out there is like a super arms-y player,
a la me, There's this groundbreaking thing
where if you use your core and some ground force,
you can actually get a lot more distance.
You gotta use the big ball, the earth.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
So I've been working really hard
on just keeping everything together on the takeaway
and then using my core and keep,
yeah, imagine there's a stick right here,
just like keeping everything under the stick here
so that I can not flip it and then,
you know, do bad things over to the left.
So that's what I'm working on.
How'd you play when you played in the event?
I made the cut.
You super nervous or you made the cut?
Three times.
Wow.
And like shaking can't hear anything,
my heart beats in my ears.
I don't know, how did you feel
when you were playing in the event?
I mean, it was like the most fun
you could have playing golf.
I was playing with Bill Murray,
so there was a big crowd out watch,
but nobody was watching me at all.
So it was actually like,
So you're like,
God, this is great,
I'm by myself over here.
There's a great photo one of my friends took
that I'm teeing off on 14
and like I'm hitting this great drive around the corner
and everybody's eyes are on Bill
who's on the back of the tee box.
It's like, okay, well no one's here to see.
I didn't get nervous,
because no one was actually there to watch me play.
You've probably had some people chirping you though.
Oh yeah, everybody was yelling.
It's like, who the hell is this guy?
So who do we have in the field this week,
celebrity-wise?
Because there's what, there's like five or six?
There's, I believe, Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers,
Larry Fitzgerald, Tom Brady, Buster Posey, and I'm sorry for whoever I've
made it.
Pau Gasol.
Pau Gasol, maybe one more?
Those are A-listers.
Yeah, Tom Brady.
I mean, he was just in Melbourne.
Yeah, Brady.
He might have been on our flight.
I mean, he's probably on a different flight.
Wait, you guys just came straight from Australia?
A few thousand feet above us.
How's it going?
We're doing okay. We're good. We're good. West Coast is easy. This is better than going
back to the East Coast so it's a little bit of a cold pun. You got your coffee.
It's been good. I'm cold though. A little cold. This is like Florida cold.
Have you ever been to a refuge? It's the hot and cold tub spa about 15 minutes away.
No, but that's personal sponsorship with ref.
I don't.
But we named our message board after it
because it's kind of the center of the maze.
So that's that's good to know.
Yeah, I'll check that out on my next trip.
Yeah.
There's Josh Allen walking in.
Yeah, here he comes.
That's exactly right.
I saw him yesterday at the preserve.
He was playing. He's a golf junkie. Do you know him at all? Did you talk to him at the clusters?
I mean I see him around at the AT&T. It's a great place.
Do you go hang out in the tap room and just just yeah hobnob?
Yeah hang out in the tap room.
Who am I to not hang out in the tap room? Yeah, you stop by and there's that person there's that person.
You end up not actually sitting and really having dinner
because you're just bopping around to different tables
and saying hello.
So that's the scene.
If you can ever come to the AT&T,
just go just sit in the tap room
and people watch, great people watching.
What do you think of the start
to the PGA Tour season's been?
Some kind of long shot, a lot of long shot winners.
What's got you excited about what's coming in this year on the PGA Tour season's been some kind of long shot, a lot of long shot winners. What's got you excited about what's coming in this year on the PGA Tour?
So I'll start this by saying I've had some meaningful time off from my regular
nine to five job, which is reporting on the golf channel from, so from November.
So my first start back is going to be waste management,
which I've never worked before. I've never been to, but in the meantime,
I've gotten to actually consume golf as a fan. Like seeing Nick Dunlap
win those types of stories actually get people excited and you know things are
different these days. So I've really enjoyed getting to consume golf as a
fan and kind of seeing can can we keep that going?
As my hope, but I wanna see how all these things,
I mean, I'm excited to see how the format this week,
it's completely different than anything
we've ever been used to, usually you see 156 players,
but I wanna see Rory play Pebble Beach,
I wanna see Justin Thomas and Colin Warakawa,
Colin's never played the tournament before,
to be able to...
Which should be a good fit for him.
Yeah, yeah.
So, you know, things are changing,
but I want to see how it evolves.
Solly's been furious at all these European tour guys
coming in, playing well, taking up spots from...
Just putting words directly in my mouth.
Well, sorry, tell me more.
No, no. Come on, winning last week,
Huygard in the field.
You know, he just, he has a...
This is going back four years when the OWGR
was skewed towards European tour players.
Oh, there we go, right?
So you just missed...
OWGR.
That's all fixed, and now the top 10 players
from the DP World Tour get PGA Tour cards,
which I think is a great development.
I said it when it happened, and I'm happy for all these players that have come
and represented their game on the PGA Tour.
And one, that's a great thing.
We're connecting the Tour.
That's a great thing.
Yeah, they're not only showing up,
but they're winning, they're finishing top five.
Matthew Pavon created this incredible drama down the stretch.
He decides to take that shot.
He could have finished T10 after landing in that rough,
and then he walks away with the win.
I mean, come on, that's great.
That's great, so he's literally making this up.
He's totally making this up.
I hate it.
I did not like when you could only play the European tour
and get your way to the top.
I was kidding.
Yeah.
I don't want to, the Europeans are awake right now.
I don't want to send them after us.
I'm seeing a lot of Malbon stuff out here.
What did you think of Jason Day's,
have you seen Jason Day's outfits?
Are you pro?
I think they're great.
I think it's great to have something
a little bit different on the golf course.
But does it look good on Jason Day is the question.
I mean, I think we're just so used to seeing Jason Day
in super tight Nike,
you know, that kind of 2010 to 2020 Nike era look, which is a
look. I mean, I like a bag of your pants, and that kind of, that's not like a new thing.
I like the sweater. I want to, I don't know that the sweater is going to be great for
hot weather for him.
Supposedly he's got some overalls working at some point.
I think it wastes management.
Listen, I thought he looked great yesterday
at some black, like kind of Tiger circa 1998 style
corals.
We were calling it like the NBA draft collection.
Like the Tracy McGrady pick.
You're getting his shoes.
I think that to have anything different in golf is like,
please, like, let's do that and it represents
And there's so much fashion in street wear and like there's so much
You know life outside of golf fashion so that if we can have any of that we can we're talking about clothing
Yeah, but on a golf podcast. That's great. Like it's to be embraced and this might not be for everyone
But I think he's doing I mean for him to for him to rock it, like go for it.
I'm a little jealous.
I really liked wearing baggy, like,
corduroy's in college, was not in.
This was the skinny jean era, and so I missed my window.
I missed the come around.
Well, you know what, it's coming back.
I know, I really might embrace the baggy life.
Over at Mirfield and like all the RNA,
I say, you are the shabbiest corduroy's ever. race the baggy life. Over at Mirfield and all the RNA guys,
they were the shabbiest quarter-writers ever.
There's some wind action there with the quarter.
Yeah, so live your life, OK?
Live your truth.
I like what is going on with some of the Rose and Charlie
Hall, that their looks with the Malvin Adidas event.
I need to be proven to be on J.J.
I wore them yesterday.
Oh, yeah.
And that was the Malvin Adidas event
They were sick. I'll show you some pictures. I liked roses bottoms. I didn't think the top matched
Quite as well. We can work on that
We're gonna so just one one last question what's your what's your best memory or favorite memory from the AT&T?
Or I guess us open, just from Pebble.
Like, outside of you playing.
So I tell this story a lot, but I
can connect so much of my professional, kind of personal
life back to the opportunity of having played in the AT&T.
I'll never forget.
I was in Orlando sitting at a random work dinner.
And I got a phone call from Steve John,
the tournament director at the AT&T.
Somebody had a back injury
and he called two days before the tournament.
Kira, any chance that you'd be available
and wanna play in the AT&T?
I don't know, I'm sorry.
Yeah, I'm sorry, what?
I'm sorry, say that again.
I got on a plane, called my husband,
fire up the car, find a hotel room, whatever.
We got down here and it was the best week of my life.
Ryan Armour was my partner and I think that he,
like I was terrified and had no idea
what I was getting into.
I wasn't as versed in the golf scene as I am now
and it was one of those moments of like,
this is gonna completely change my life trajectory and then that gave me so many opportunities to then work and
golf and what I'm doing now
But I mean pebble is
It's magic. Yeah, it's really really special place and
Yeah, and I'm from San Francisco. So I've always come down here as
You know, this is where we anytime somebody visits like you bring them to Pebble Beach like you drive
down to Big Sur and I think AT&T has done a really great job with the
tournament and just giving this great fan experience all the hospitality so
it's top top shelf. Are you a Ninersman? I am a Ninersman. We're gonna send you out of here on this.
What's up you have a pick you have a pick to win
You can only take name one name who's gonna win this week. We're gonna ask this for everyone
I mentioned him earlier. I like Colin more cow Colin more cow. Okay. All right. We are gonna send you on your way
I know you got some influencing to do so best of luck with that
And I believe DJ pies back hopefully with his three nuggets that he got from the range. So thanks
Thank you
Street sweeper.
It's getting busy out here, gang.
There's some buzzing.
A literal buzz.
Oh, here comes MrKVV.
A sad Baltimore fan.
All right, dudes, what have you got for us?
What have you got for us?
First of all, it was fun to be able to pop into the comments,
people clowning on your matching vest,
which I tried to get ahead of yesterday.
I said we don't want to look like we have school uniforms on.
Speaking of vest.
But the vest is functional right now.
The vest is great.
It's very functional.
I didn't pack a whole lot of cold weather gear in Australia either.
All right, three things.
That's not a clown on though.
Yeah, that's fair.
I got you the rib cameo.
I think that counts for something.
So what order?
This isn't really a thing.
I'll give you four.
Just saw Melnotti and Rory, just a fun body language
interaction to watch, with obviously both being
PJ Tour board members.
A lot of just kind of like former.
But those are some of the podcasts that's not going to help.
You know, a lot of really, wow.
Making room for a while.
Yeah, so just, you know, that was a fun interaction to watch.
I'm receiving word, your guy Tommy might be trying some new iron shafts.
That was second hand. I don't know if that's, you know.
We were talking to him about coming on. He said, well, Sally asked him and he's like, I don't know if that's you know we were talking to him about coming on he said so solid asked him and he's like I don't trust you solid yeah you know I
only go to the people that you only goes to the favorable journalist that give him
a fan yeah I don't love that he's testing new irons out I think iron shaft he
might win oh you might win this week he was gonna be my pick to win now I have
to think about that a little bit I was gonna gonna pick him to win Oh my god. I know it's he's gonna. He's gonna bust it at some point
I have nothing but faith that he's gonna win at some point. It's just time. I thought it was Rory at first
Looks like Jerry Tarny going with another tan animal outfit. I would say the fourth thing so I was I was uh
Always love running into Michael Bamberger who's who's out here this week
I hope he doesn't mind me airing this out, but his cell phone went off and his ring tone
Oh, no was a ring tone that I would love for you guys to guess
What what song Michael Bamberger's ring tone is forgot about Jarray hit me baby one more time young American boy
Young Americans, oh young ever Americans. Bad to the bone.
Which I've only heard.
Which was like a stock ring on the old Nokia's.
And that might have been what it was.
I didn't see it again.
Michael, I'm sorry if you don't want me airing that out.
But I've only heard two people with that ring tone.
One is the famous The Shock and Start Boys Love 2
references all the time, which actually was right here at Pebble, the US Open.
We're sitting in the media center, it's dead quiet and just the loudest ringtone
you've ever heard, bad to the bone, just keeps going off.
And we look back and it's Andy North. We laughed for 45 minutes probably.
And so that was quite an echo. You
know history doesn't repeat itself but it echoes Neil. Sure. Those are my three things.
Okay.
About 18 to. That's good stuff. I love it. Neil you want to go on a lap? I feel like we
can send you on a lap. We have our next guest coming in here shortly. I don't know. I allegedly
he's going to allegedly be here at some point. We're going to keep the seat open. Neil's
really good at going on these PGA tour ranges and seat open. It feels really good I'm gonna keep you posted. We'll keep you posted.
We'll keep you posted.
And just kind of lawn-like-
Yeah, I don't know what I'm doing. I'll probably get in someone's way.
I'm sorry.
Can I try that? Can I try that?
Let me show you the big right miss.
Um, yeah, we have a-
Allegedly have a guest coming in sometime around 8.30. Have not heard back.
But listen, we're gonna- we're gonna be doing it live here this week.
What did I miss? What'd you guys talk about? Oh, we just talked about Kira's experiences on the, at the, uh, at the
AT&T pebble beach pro and playing in it, special pebble memories, even though,
you know, you guys don't think pebble is beautiful, but you know, that's fine.
Never said that.
You don't want to, if you want to talk about it, we'll talk about it.
You, you brought it up.
You brought it up.
It still has to be here for this.
Stay tuned in hour two for that, for that conversation.
What a clean look that is. The, uh, head of the us g a president president yeah keeps the perp by the pound are we gonna get any news
anytime soon on this pga tour investment thing we've got a couple bluffs it felt
like it was gonna come Monday that was basically floated a month ago or a few
weeks back the strategic sports group is going to,
you know, Steve Cohen, Arthur Blank, Fenway,
things of that, Mark Lazar, your guideage.
Things of that nature are gonna invest in.
They previously announced that they're moving forward
exclusively with that group,
and we're waiting on the announcement to drop
that that agreement has been reached,
which it sounds like it has,
or it's extremely close to happening, uh you know we don't know when that
we might it might get announced with LaBalle we're live on the air um at some point today for all
we know but and then as far as we know that's not going to preclude the piff involvement but that's
phase two to come down the pike after they get the strategic sports group into the mix.
That is what we are hearing at this point.
I'm kind of, not only disillusioned by it all, but until we have a schedule or a plan
for what competitive golf looks like, I'm kind of good on whatever details.
I don't need to hear more financials of all how all this stuff is going down.
I just care about how these golf tournaments are going to start coming together.
Here, here.
Totally agree.
Yeah, I certainly not as well-versed as I was before our Australia trip, probably,
so I need to spend some time catching up on what's going on.
So basically how easy it all was to forget, it really was.
Which I think, I don't know, if you're trying to read for something, it's like, I think
it goes back to KVV's column and what he talked about a couple weeks ago before we left
is just like, man, how easy is it to just check out?
Why are people supposed to be kind of hanging on every word
of this thing?
I think people are here to stick a true stick to sports
situation.
Just kind of want to watch the golf, man.
I don't really want to know how the business corporate structure of it all works, but I don't know
We will see we will see what do you remember most from playing this tournament last year?
I remember the most is
The final morning so we
Weather is kind of always an issue right and something that's going to be an issue this week
And we got to you know, we're playing the back nine on Saturday at Pebble Beach, which was like, and I'm playing with Bill Murray
again. And this was like, there was a buzz going on, right? So we turn when you get to 14, like the
crowd really starts to gather 14, 15, 16 were nuts. It was so fun. And we get 17 and we get delayed.
And so we just go and sit in a car. And I'm sitting in a car with because team Rose wouldn't
because they would not hit a putt,
because there was a green that was getting out of control,
I guess, at NPCC.
There won't be an issue this year.
Will not be an issue of being told this year.
So I end up sitting in a car with Charles Kelly, the musician
and his friend for hours and hours,
just waiting by the 17T, hoping to go out and play
two more holes.
Didn't end up happening.
So we come back the next morning and play 17 and 18 at Pebble.
Just totally peaceful morning.
Chris Straub was my partner.
And DA points were both going to miss the cut.
Like they could have easily just bail.
But they came out to make sure we got to finish
and play the last two holes.
Get one hole in.
It starts hailing.
So we have a hail delay on the 18th tee.
And then go play.
Like the hail lifts and the sun starts to rise a little bit.
And you played the 18th hole coming in down the stretch into the wind 45
degrees in the cold but like getting to walk up the 18th fairway with my dad and
Bill Murray for some reason and and all these guys and birdie in the last hole
for us to have made the cut was like just one of my favorite golf memories ever
and listen I'm happy to give up my spot so we can you know kind of have a
have a designated event I'm happy to do that for all you guys at home to be able
to watch the.
What do you think got your spot? Buster Posey?
I hope not, man. I still remember the Grand Slam and Game 5, the 2012 NLDS that
kind of ruined my baseball fandom for quite some time. So there were kind of
some offers like, yeah, we can get some of the players to come through if you want.
And I was like, no Buster Posey. I'm not ready to face it I'm not ready to hold the grudge. Yeah, what's your posey rules?
That was huge. What's the aging period for a grand playoff grand slam against you 12 years is not long enough
I'm still holding a grudge against Kirby pocket Joe Carter Joe Kirby pocket went to Bradley for a little while really yeah
And then he got drafted or yeah, I believe so, okay
I'm
receiving word just got word that our
guest is on his way I'm gonna be coming
here shortly so I think people like him
I think people have heard from him and
you could probably guess who it is it's
always crazy like the just seeing the
parking lot and all the tour trucks like
the tour industrial complex it's well
that's what I was kind of thinking about
the guy's shoe and crows like Well that's where I was kind of thinking about the guy shoeing crows.
Man that's somebody's job, huh?
It's a job.
Hey, we have a pro, a professional, is coming in live.
He's got his track man apparatus.
Hey buddy.
What's creepy?
Look at his hand.
We're live on the air right now, just for the market.
He became an artist.
You like the mustache?
Oh, we haven't talked about the mustache yet.
You're not a fan.
Max almost joined the show.
Hey.
I don't know.
Well, it's a little overgrown now.
You should see when we first got to Australia,
it looked like the bunker edges at Metropolitan and Rome
Albert now, it's kind of shaggy.
You should see Neil's hair overgrown.
Is this how timelines are going to work from now on?
Yeah.
Two months since Australia.
Yes, that's basically how we started the show.
Do you have any questions for us about Australia?
I would actually like to know about land.
Have you played down there?
No, I've never been.
I was in between when I went to Africa this year.
I was kind of in between doing Africa or Australia.
I'm glad I chose Africa.
You won that major.
I would love to go. You're my that major. I would love to go.
You're my first major.
I would love to go dodge really.
It looks like the most proper of golf.
Yeah, I think it would really suit your game to be honest.
All right, thanks.
You like just the elite iron play.
Y'all just played just a ton of golf.
A lot of golf.
A lot of golf.
What's been going on in golf?
Can you update us on what's been going on in the pro circuits?
What did you miss?
I did read if you're, Colin told me if you put a dollar on each winter and kept
rolling it over, you'd have 3.8 billion dollars.
So who do we bet on this week?
I'm not allowed to say.
Yeah, do not.
But yeah, not a whole lot's been going on in golf.
Just waiting for Tor suss to come out.
I heard you had a good weekend at Tori.
You're kind of starting to trend a little bit.
Half a weekend.
We only get to Saturday.
Oh, that's right.
I mean, Friday's the weekend too.
Yeah, it was good.
I didn't really play well Wednesday, which
was cool to shoot two under at South.
And then I just screwed the pooch on Thursday.
I putt terrible at North.
People are so good at golf.
I don't understand how to cut on those two courses
can be three under, you know?
So I go out there and shoot two under, which was fine.
It just didn't make anything in your miles back.
So it's a professional golf these days.
People are just getting better.
Obviously, you see people like Nick Dunlap win.
Just everybody's just ready to go low. It's nuts.
How has that changed since you've been on tour? Like from
your first year on the PGA tour to now, like what, how much
the level of play changed?
It's hard to say because I was so bad. So I kind of just
noticed it more on like the median. I don't think the
lead like the wins, the winning scores don't feel crazy. I
know that they've been really low, but like, Capalui, you could see it.
You know, there just was no defense.
And I would say that like the winning score
around Tori made sense.
It's just like the average seems to be going up.
So yeah, it's hard to say,
but you still know when you play well,
you're typically in a similar position
As far as where the lead is but you might be in like 20th instead of 10th. That's what it feels like at some weeks
It's interesting like with these elevated events last year definitely noticed that there were weeks We're going playing pretty good and you would be again more like 18th instead of
11th 12th 10th
of 11th, 12th, 10th. The Tories, the non-elevated still have a similar feel,
but I just the cuts keep getting lower and lower.
That's what I've noticed the most.
So BigFamily's no cut events then?
Sure, yeah, I don't know.
I will say, I mean, I was one of the few to vote,
or I guess talk about how I like the cut thing.
A lot of it goes to Tigers record is,
I think that's the greatest record in sports history.
So to kind of take some opportunity away
from that was kind of a shame,
but I get the business side of it,
I get the product entertainment side of it.
I do think it's better,
but there's something about cuts I think that is,
it's a fascinating part of this,
is you think about it.
And if you think about it,
that means it's, you know,
it's has some value when you're playing. You think about it. And if you think about it, that means it has some value
when you're playing.
I think talking about Torrey Pines, talking about cuts,
all I can think of is a Spencer Levine story
for when you were a rookie.
I don't know if you want to share that,
or if you want me to paraphrase it.
Paraphrase it.
As I understand it, this may not even be funny,
but I've thought about it for, I don't know, five years,
six years now.
But as I understood, you had a lot of family and practically a home game Southern, California
I think maybe you missed the cup by one. Yeah, I missed a four footer on eight and Spencer Levine who I've never met a
Legendary figure in my favorite in my mind
It's like playing with Tiger Lee's.
Max is despondent about missing the cut by one
in front of all his friends and family.
And Spencer comes over and he's like, are you OK?
Like, what's going on?
I was like, I just bogeyed the last and missed the cut by one.
Spencer's going, fuck, man.
I'm sorry, dude.
If there's a guy you want to ride for you, you need Spence in your life. Sp since it's like I swear he is the biggest heart there is in golf
I'm really glad to see him playing so much better because
He's both entertaining and just like as good a dude as you'll ever meet. He I remember you know to me
You are right like he I probably probably look like my dog
It just passed away and he felt that but he I didn't give the answer as to what I probably look like But dog had just passed away. He felt that, but I didn't give the answer
as to what I probably look like,
but he matched me and it was really cool.
Sorry, man.
How's dad life?
Good, it's hard, man.
Solly's in it, yeah.
Traveling is just so different.
When we're home for stretches,
I'm like, oh, I could really, really get good at this.
It's time for another one.
Yeah, and then you get traveling,
and it's just like holy cow.
We didn't bring his bath the other day.
My wife's probably gonna be embarrassed.
I told her the story.
But we didn't bring his bath,
because it's in our bin, so we get it today.
And I need to give him a bath,
so my first took a shower with my kid.
And your arm just feels like it's gonna break at some point.
Like I'm holding him all, he doesn't like to be down,
he likes to be up and he doesn't seem to grasp it
like when dad sits down and holds him
that that's just so much worse.
Dude, I know, but what am I gonna do?
Not hold my kids.
So I was fishing for some excuses from Speeth yesterday
about his wrist.
How do you get that?
Do you think that's a dad thing?
Cause I got my wrist to sort too, man.
I don't know. I get the back more than the wrist. Dad you think that's a dad thing? Because I got my wrist a sore too, man.
I don't know.
I get the back more than the wrist.
Dad back is brutal, dude.
Low left.
Any part would have been good for God.
See, he told you.
I have four different parts of the back hurting right now.
It's brutal, man, but such is life.
I enjoy getting to do it, but it is funny when you're on the road
because you're just tired after playing golf,
and it's just my wife is exhausted.
So then I get home, and it's my turn, and I'm just like, oh, man,
I'm just not sure I'm ready for this right now.
How do you do for golf courses, events that have two golf courses?
How do you, I'm sure that's easier than three now that we're down to two.
But how do you prepare for two different golf courses?
Obviously, one of them you're only going to see once.
So is it like, do you put 75% of your time in on pebble this week versus spyglass? How do you prepare for two different golf courses? Obviously, one of them you're only going to see once. So is it like you put 75% of your time in on Pebble
this week versus Spyglass?
How do you do it?
I feel like I've played Pebble more
and I've played it really well.
Spy, to me, is a bit trickier.
I feel like Pebble, once you kind of get an eye for it,
you know what to do.
It's a little more in front of you.
There's a few blind shots, but for the most part you know what you're doing. Spy feels a
little more awkward. Just tee shots are a little bit weirder. So I walked
the front at Pebble on Sunday with Colin. He played. So at least I got to watch him
play and see what he was hitting and then played the front nine at Spy. Today
I might actually go play the back at Spy. So I might you know with how bad it looks tomorrow
I might not end up playing any holes at pebble, but at least got to walk it
But I just feel like I know that golf course really well, so I guess it to answer your question
It's probably just depends on which ones you feel the most comfortable on
But I mean with the way the weather looks it's kind of kind of just be like hitting a low punch on most every golf shot
And then try to get up and down so I'm not sure
I'm not sure there's a real great way to prepare for that one.
Do you change your bag at all or do anything special if you know the weather's going to
suck for a couple days?
Yeah, so I always travel with a three iron and my seven wood.
There's definitely a world.
It's like you.
Is that what you do?
Nice.
Anna T grind and an A grind.
Nice, I have L and A, yeah, because that's where I'm from.
But yeah, so I might throw a three-iron in,
like if it's crazy windy.
But with the rain, I'd rather hit a seven wood.
So I doubt I'll change much.
But I always bring them just in case, especially
with two courses, I mean, there might be,
Joe sometimes in the morning, even if we've played the course
twice with a seven wood.
He might be like, hey, they moved the tee up or back
or whatever.
We're probably not even going to hit this seven wood. So maybe put the three-iron in a few, he might be like, hey, they moved the tee up or back or whatever, we're probably not even gonna hit
this seven one, so maybe put the three iron in a few,
because that's more of like my off the tee club.
So if we're never gonna hit into a par five,
sometimes we'll just throw the seven,
or the three iron in, just to have like an option
if I feel uncomfortable on a tee shot.
That's fun.
Do you know what you're playing with?
I do not, no nothing.
Really?
Yeah, we find out tonight.
Exciting.
Well that's why the amateur
field hasn't come out yet what do you mean I just haven't seen I haven't seen anyone keeps asking
me like who you're playing with when you're I have no idea I gotta feel like you're like a darling of
the you know they might pair you with a celebrity yeah I don't know my my last partner I had here
Aaron Rogers won last year with Ben Silverman. And so I had that. Suspicious circumstances.
Yeah, I heard him.
I got a bad rap for it.
But I mean, wins a win.
I mean, Keith Mitchell was calling him out on air,
saying he was.
Yeah, he was.
He used the S word, which is aggressive.
But there's something about like if you,
maybe people don't care about this, but if you enter the,
whenever you enter the tournament, if you play it again,
you stay at the same handicap you were at prior
Allegedly, oh if you think I know the rules for what they am no, no, I don't think you do
What are you playing off this week?
Scrubs what is your head you keep a handicap?
Whisperock actually keeps our handicaps for us. I'm sure they're not super legit
But I know that rom got to like a plus nine and a half. I think I'm a plus seven five
Rom's gonna give you two. I think when he won the USO point, he went on a
crazy tear that that part. I mean, he's always on a tear when he went on a crazy
tear. I remember it was like pushing 10. This is nice.
I heard roms staying at the lodge. How do you, how would you equate so there's been
some chat, obviously there's been a lot of TIO chatter lately
In a in a tour event because of bleachers because of trampled down rough whatever it could be people have said this
I don't know if I agree like it could be two shots easier to play on the beach
Just completely Shane you completely forgot about the pin
What was his quote what did he say he said to yell at him. So much just completely, Shane, you completely forgot about the pin lock. That's what I was getting at, right?
So anything else.
What was his quote?
What did he say?
He said that.
I obviously I listened.
Of course.
Because you can't lose a ball because of the volunteers
and because of the few grandstands that might help you.
Professional golf for the average golfer
would actually be two shots easier.
That's interesting.
Not any harder
He said if you took out the fans and the nerves which again
It's like what we were saying the other day is somebody said that like Cypress wouldn't be that great of a golf course if it wasn't on the water
Max you're currently playing off a plus 8.6
Your low handicap index was plus 9.0.
Jeez.
So how much harder is a PGA TORS setup?
Rom's up.
Rom's up with plus 9.5.
You should stand back this week.
Try to get that handicap up.
I'm not going to say it.
But what is the offset of how much harder a TORS setup
is versus the hardest day at Whisper Rock? Yeah, I mean, it's just. What is the offset of how much harder a tour setup is versus like the hardest day at whisper rock?
Yeah, I mean it's just
What what is like one of the individual parts?
I just don't think people understand like the the big difference between even cornfury to a tour event
is different because
four paces from an edge three paces from an edge
Versus five or six. I know it sounds like nothing if I see five
Paces like last week. There was a pan. I think it was one I see five paces, like last week, there was a, I think it was one.
One was five paces from the right.
I had a nine iron in it and I'm like,
oh, I'm gonna draw it in off the right.
Cause you're just better at,
like when you get better at golf, it's like five.
That's 15 feet.
Like I feel like I have a lot of room over there.
So you start to feel comfy.
If I saw three, it starts to get like,
eh, I'm gonna cut it from the middle
and take my 18 feet.
So it's stuff like that.
I think that people don't grasp.
And then, especially for the average golfer, if you get short sided with 12 feet versus 18 feet. So it's stuff like that, I think that people don't grasp. And then, especially for the average golfer,
if you get short-sided with 12 feet versus 18 feet,
that's a big difference.
So I just think that stuff, and it messes with your eyes.
There's certain pins you'll look at and you're like,
that's not on the green.
That's a big thing too.
It feels like that stuff has gone back to like,
how things have changed since you turned pro.
Like, has those keep getting pushed further and further
to the edges or has that always been like that?
No, it's always been like that.
I actually have this like,
what did the galaxy brain thought that to speed up play
and make golf maybe slightly harder is do what they do
overseas, make the greens a lot slower,
but then don't care so much about the three pace rule.
You could put pins on hills.
But then it'll speed things up.
It's like Griffith Park.
It's exactly like Griffith Park.
And the ball strikers.
Like this far off the edge.
I did it closer, and I just don't think.
I think one part of, I've been really
thinking about the space play thing lately, because it's
awful.
Well, it's not going to get any better.
This week should be good.
You put pins on hills, that's not going to make a better.
I'm just saying, if the greens were slower,
you wouldn't have to mark all your three footers.
I don't think. I mean, it's just a problem.
If you run a putt two and a half feet by
and you have a putt that's gonna be right edge to outside,
I mean, you're gonna mark it, read it, whatever.
When I played over at like St. Andrews was a good example,
you could have three feet,
they're almost always very straight.
And even if they're not, it's,
they're slow enough where you're gonna play it
inside the hole.
You start playing these greens at like 12s
and you have to play it outside.
And I'm just, I'm gonna take my time and it sucks
Can I run one of my ideas by you please teeny tiny chalk line that you can't see on TV
But it's about two and a half feet around the circle of the hole anything inside that you scoop
It's like the mr. Hogan
Joel off a plus 5.1
See so she's you got to give Joel like
Money go play Joel or Brandon Harkins at Mesa the other day
We played and Mesa Country Club and I was playing pretty good and was a couple under through eight
Maybe three under Joel was like five under and I was just the best coffee ever imagine
Harkins is in the group in front of us and it was seven or three
You guys are truly the two best golfers ever at this golf course do we talk about your Dodgers
please yeah how do you feel do you feel do you feel good about this do you feel
good about in your soul about all this congratulations man really really cool
really cool I tax avoid that part general malfeasance I would like it to be known first and foremost that it's not my money we've spent, so I don't care about that part.
It is a little bit weird.
I don't know.
It's a bizarre thing.
I don't like it mostly as a fan because I feel like now it's if they don't win.
100%.
Totally.
Can you imagine how much the pressure in that first five
game series sucks.
But yeah, I mean, also it'll be super fun.
So I'm excited about all of it, but it has been wild.
I'm actually the most stoked about Glassnau,
because Glassnau is from my hometown,
and obviously LA guy because of that.
And that'll be pretty cool to see him get to play
in the blue and white
Is this the only?
California event you haven't won
Mx you haven't won that one am ex yeah, and I'm sure I mean there's gotta be more But I feel like if you know that's gotta be a career. That's a way
Trinity
This is the third the third big one. Yeah, it's been really weighing on me. I came up here just thinking man
Yeah, I need to start winning
Come on in Florida, man. It's like 5% of the keep go back to like the Dodgers
Gallery then maybe I feel better about all this. You pay for Otani's tax breaks
I saw TC's guy Lud Ludwig, walk by.
Obviously got to see him up close at the Ryder Cup.
Have you guys compared notes yet about what she saw?
Yeah, we took it offline.
Yeah, he's good.
He's really good.
I also lived with him at the century.
He was very good there.
I think I beat him by like seven.
But he's got a bad caddy now.
He's got scover.
He's given back to us.
He's playing off his own handicap now. Let me let me see if he's in the bar the back bar
is about club this is like the plane tracking but for golf exactly I had no
idea that so many pros were in the gym app oh yeah whisperer does a cool thing
I think it's awesome I mean we don't play off of it ever, but it's like kind of nice to know.
What do you play off of? Usually plus five or six.
That's so scummy. Every pro. Yeah, I'm like a plus four.
I'll give you the real answer. If we played stroke play, I'd play you to my handicap. But the fact that I can make a four and you can make a six and it's just one or I can make a three and you can make a six and it's just more and probably changes things a little bit.
Sure.
But I think it's calculated to be for match play.
I don't like, I don't know how it works.
I do not like how this, the calculation for the handicap stuff works these days.
Like, here maybe you can answer this question.
Whisperot we play off the backtees every single time.
Skav as I was just joking about, he plays off the backtees every time we play together.
He's playing. Yeah, well every time we go his handicap adjusts because of the backtees
Why would that be if that's what we're playing off of every single day?
Hmm, you have like an index that adjusts for the difficulty of the course right?
So your index plays everywhere and that adjusts for whatever difficulty of the courses scovins got a but his handicap is based on
I mean, but the index is like on a neutral setup.
I guess it's got a 4.2.
That's becoming.
He's better players.
He's got a 92 on there from December.
He hit a wall.
He's been struggling.
He puts left handed.
Shout out to you.
Really?
Yeah.
And he's gotten a lot better.
So I feel like that handicaps, the scores are going
to go down a little bit.
Any changes in any techniques or anything you're doing this year for 2024 any process changes any swing changes putting changes grips
anything left-handed
Not a whole lot still working on I found out recently my body's a disaster. So a lot of my swing
Issues things I don't like are probably
a lot of my swing issues, things I don't like are probably... Fuck!
Man!
How'd you find out these bodies are disgusting?
I went to TBI.
Okay.
What'd you learn?
Um...
I've always known my hips are really immobile.
I kind of thought that...
I hate that you keep like comparing it.
Like I'm doing this part as a favor before I go warm up.
I'm gonna go play my perforation.
I'm gonna try to unlock my hips, man. I can show you some techniques.
We can share them.
But yeah, so I always felt my hips are a disaster
and worked around it.
I didn't realize how bad my shoulder mobility was
and didn't realize how much that affects my back swing.
So my back swings's been getting short
because it's comfier and I thought
that there was something like I was doing wrong.
So I've been chasing a look.
Do not lean back, right?
There's water just pouring down behind your head, DJ.
We're in the elements here.
They're trying to cancel me.
So now, just knowing that actually
has been a nice piece of mind.
So when I see my backswing,
sometimes I get in a really good spot
and then it'll kinda hook towards across the line.
And I'm realizing that I just run out of range of motion,
which is actually kind of good for my head
cause I like stay up at night thinking about why
you can't figure this stupid thing out.
So hopefully work on all of that
and get to actually save some time hitting balls
and get a little bit better, you know, in the gym
or off the golf course, I guess.
So I think that would be goal number one
and then see what that entails.
But as far as swing thoughts and whatnot,
it's very similar to last year.
I liked how I swung it.
I liked how I hit it.
I liked all my feels.
So I'm trying to keep those as, I don't know,
as similar as possible.
And I've been really stoked.
My short game's gotten so much better in the last,
even like four months, six months.
So that was fun to see last week to really chip the ball well
and keep myself in a bad round and then end up almost
like sneaking into a 13th place finish.
That I didn't have that before.
So I kind of just keep doing the same stuff
and hopefully get a little bit better.
You said you're about to go warm up.
Do you have the same warm up routine every day?
Not today.
I mean, today I'm going gonna do a full grind with my coach
Mark Blackburn but yeah typically have a number one teacher what's that you know
one teacher can you send him over here
he's busy because he coaches TC what's
just like you yeah you doing the T Maybe, yeah. You might as well.
You're doing the TPS.
Max and I are working on this thing.
He came with me.
Greg Rose helped me out a lot.
And then, yeah, so now I'm going to, I'm just going to dive more.
I just didn't know anything about that world.
I felt like I was in a sweet spot.
The kids come out these days.
The kids.
The kids.
The kids.
The 20-year-old Nick Dunlaps.
People ask me, you know, all of us, like, how is that happening?
Like, why are these guys so ready to win?
And I used to say a lot of his prime mentality,
which is true, you know, you watch Tiger
and all it was ever about is winning.
And I think that was different.
Shout out to the Curtis Strange interview
that like prior, it was just like play well
and like have a good life.
And then Tiger really made it like,
if you don't win, it's a failure.
So I think that helped.
But the college golf scene is so much more specialized now.
I just watch how like ASU practices, because they're obviously by me.
I mean, they have like, it's way different than how we did it.
And also the technology of like trackmans and quads and all that stuff is different.
But
Everything's optimized.
But then even like the training is specialized to like the person.
Whereas when we were in college, my first year was terrible.
My second year, we got a real trainer, but he was still the football trainer.
And we were working out, but I don't think any of it was for me.
I don't think I got any better at golf because of it.
And I felt like I was just in that sweet spot where like more people were going
out of their way to learn about it. And I didn't like was just in that sweet spot where like, more people were going out of their way to learn about it
and I didn't like know about all that.
And then as I've gone through this like last 10 years
as a pro or whatever it's been,
like I know people do stuff and I've done a little bit more
but I never realized just how like impactful it could be.
So that was what was fun about going to TPI
and working with Greg is being like, dang,
like I said about my shoulder.
Like there's an area in my golf swing I struggle with
and I am banging my head against it.
So I'll try and figure out what swing technique to do to fix it
You start to realize
You know, I'm hurt dog
That is that's super interesting
I think that that has helped the the younger
Crew be like so ready because I feel like I'm just learning about that stuff
Maybe in the last couple years and these guys that's just like how they're brought up
All right, we're gonna send you on your way.
We appreciate you spending some time with us.
We got you out of here right on time, which is a rarity.
It's so big.
You guys are on the schedules.
Come on, after all the stuff that Sali was talking about,
Kobe was the faster one.
The least favorite is so aggressive.
That's not going to be Sali's worst take of this podcast.
Just wait until we get to some of the other ones. Because I'm in with not liking him. That's not even going to be Sally's worst take of this podcast. Just wait until we get to some of the other ones.
Because I'm in with not liking him.
That's fair.
Yeah, just least favorite.
It's mostly not his fault.
But it was like my friend's fault that made me really dislike him.
How deflecting.
The six for 24, that was deflecting off the rim.
That's what that's all about.
That was a good one.
Are you going to sit back down?
No.
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You got Dermot Desmond out there in the range.
Sure.
Legendary mustache.
You should go compare notes with them.
I should.
I don't know if the muscle is...
Can we talk about...
I guess this has been a hot topic of conversation in the comments.
We haven't really visited what's going on here.
I don't really speak about it publicly, but I'm happy to use this forum if people are curious.
We're going to take a very short little break here. We're going to go to hold screen. We're going to do some camera adjusting for the lighting situation.
Turns out the sun came up. We didn't see that coming.
Yeah, the sun totally sunned it on us here, but we're going to do a little adjusting. We'll be right back here shortly in about 60 seconds.
Two. All right, we are back and a little bit better lit here at the range here at the
AT&T Pebble Beach Pro Am. We are recruiting guests to come along and we
managed to track one down a young, he was out riding the thermals on the range
of young Icarito Neil Schuster. What do you got for us?
I'm Star.
It's good to be back with you guys. I heard that Max doesn't like DJ's mustache, which is tough. Oh, I think he was just taking it back
All right, so I got a couple things one. I'm never gonna be comfortable out there
Don't look comfortable out there. You look like you look like you are
Are you're gonna get pulled your credentials gonna get pulled it?
Thank you solid for instilling some confidence. No, I want you to like you have that well. No, that's in. Thank you, Sally, for instilling some confidence. No, I want you to, like, you have that, well, no, that's helpful. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you for reinforcing my insecurity.
Mahalo, learn about brotherhood. That's really cool. So first off, I did talk to Rory for a little while.
He said, watch some YouTube videos on how to be a dad. Really? He was like, yeah, how to change a
diaper. YouTube's great for that stuff. I said, I appreciate that nugget. Um, swaddling.
One of my favorite things.
I think I've mentioned this before, but we all kind of share like the, the.
We're all logged into the YouTube account.
Sure.
And so you can always see like the recent searches.
So I'll always be on there looking, you know, I look for any weird stuff like
anybody else, but looking for like camera settings or how to fix this in DaVinci
or how to do whatever. Goose moss. And then the recent searches are always like
Goose Christmas special and then like how to swaddle a baby. Something
Bitcoin related. It's always very funny. Yeah. Which is good stuff. So what did I
get? So Josh Allen and I believe his brother are down here over TC shoulder
warming up next to the tool man.
They were having the most relatable warmup I've ever seen.
Is that right?
Chunking, first one chunked 58 degree,
just kinda like, huh, just that's weird.
And then moving into the, like it's probably a six iron,
just catching it like three grooves low
with the Fred McGriff kind of follow through
of like, oh man, that's not it.
Just the low, you know, the low skier.
Sure, not good.
Man, I just feel like I've had that warm up
so, so many times, but I would say Josh Allen's move
looks pretty good.
It does, I've been watching this one,
this looks really good.
It's hit or miss on, as far as, you know,
smash factor goes.
There's speed.
There is speed though.
I would say that Cam Young has an outrageous fit on.
Black joggers with like, what look like black basketball
shoes and he's got some out.
Yeah, it is a blow by alert.
Potential blow by alert.
He's got great flow though.
He's really growing the hair out.
So he just looks like a stud.
Nick Hardy walking in behind the end.
Josh Allen coming by behind us here.
Yeah.
What else did I get?
I would like to report that Jason Day's fit today is
It looks awesome.
It's fantastic today.
It's really, really good.
I will die on the hill that he did not look good at century.
And then he looks very good today.
Yeah, he's got some nice almost like tweed pants
on with a green pullover.
Looks really good. What else did I get?
What are we on? Two? Three? That was three. Well, the last thing is I was talking to
Harrison Sheet. He runs the track man stuff and he was showing me these guys are doing like a lot of
them are setting up shots. Like they're basically playing the course on the track man.
So like he can set up like little wedge.
Like you want to hit 75, 85 wedges to a back left pin.
Sure.
And basically they can set it up for him on the range
so they can practice the shots they're
about to hit on the course.
Shots, shots.
I thought that was like a little bit too much data for me,
but very interesting that the technology's getting out of hand.
So those are my four.
It sounds like you thrived out there.
That was great.
Yeah, you're doing a great job.
What do we have to do to put you in a succeed
out on the range?
No, I just don't want to get in anyone's way.
Like, I don't want to, I don't like to pretend.
I think you were just milling it out.
No, I will say this.
Tommy had the largest team out there.
Oh, he had five guys lingering.
He actually knew Iron Shaffs, I'm told.
I mean, I don't think I was in anybody's way. Oh, we had five guys lingering new iron shafts. I'm told
I mean, I don't think I was in anybody's way
Yeah, but I'm just you know just gonna call it I would say I'm comfortable out there sure well, that's good You can be though. I'm trying to how was how are you max?
Yeah, he was incensed about Sally's it was stunting on TC. That's what I heard
I don't know what happened here buzz what so's Kobe takes Kobe takes. Yeah, that's tough. I might be
Device of issue for you guys. That's totally fine. I'm comfortable with that least favorite athlete of all time
Yeah, probably that's a who was your answer for the least favorite out John L. Way
John expand on that. Yeah, just he beat the Falcons in the Super Bowl. I never liked the way he looks.
I thought he was a pretty boy.
You're not a big badger guy.
I hate his restaurant in the Denver Airport.
I think it's overrated bad service.
Well, I always just wonder what that badger commercial was.
He gives the guy a ride on the flight,
and then he leaves him at the airport,
and the guy has to get his own car
Yeah, that's he's selfish selfish individual. Thank you
YTK walking in who was who was your least favorite athlete?
Some cub I freed who I said changes are prior. No, I think it no mark prior were sweet I thought he was a close second. I was a brahno was up there for me. It's a brahno sucked. Moises. I'll Lou
He was kind of cool. He done his hands
No batting gloves peas on his hands
Yeah, I don't get to see who's gonna go down the leaderboard of all the athletes he hates
Cam Newton and now cam
James
The other thing I'd say the toolman has the best spot
on the range, just deep in the corner.
No hat, Pat.
No, he's wearing a hat.
He's like Mr. Hogan jammed over on the left side.
Yeah.
No, Mr. Hogan was on the other side.
So he didn't have to watch anybody.
Oh, maybe that's what it was.
He was always on the right side, like the long side.
Maybe early in his career when he was hitting hooks,
he was on the left side.
I think it switched.
Almost every time I go to the range I think about this the
story furick told at the 1997 Sony that his first one of his first his first
rookie like his earlier than 97 probably maybe it was 97 but who was it was
Lanny Watkins who was hitting balls next to I think yeah as Lanny or like
Larry Nelson or someone like very very yeah it's like a right to left win and
he's in front of front of I think it was Lady Walkins he starts hitting shots
it just starts coating many walkins and diffits like I think he I think he did
it twice and I think it was Lanny just was like yeah but maybe hit another club
maybe move down a little bit like when Zach
PJ was one time at Colonial
Zack boy, so VJ was hitting there VJ made a V with his divots and Zach went in and made it a Z
VJ would take the only shady spot on the range and VJ came back and he's there you're in my spot
No On the range and BJ came back and he's there you're in my spot You got punch BJ in the face a little bit. Yeah, I think you loved it
I did promise the Twitter folks that I would get in we have a lot of a lot of time on the air today
I promise we'd get some Twitter questions in so I'm gonna throw a couple to
I'll start with D. You've been to this tournament probably the most and Neil's probably be the second most to this tournament, but
I'll start with D. You've been to this tournament probably the most and Neil's probably be the second most to this tournament But Steven Jule is asking what are the three best places to spectate for someone going for their first time that I might not
Expect for example not 70
70 you never gonna say 70 is great. Yeah, it's kind of a tough spot though. You don't really see a whole lot out there
I mean, it's it's such a hard
I'm not trying to cop out, but like,
the bangers are the bangers for reason.
I'm not gonna be like, oh dude, you know what's so sick?
It's 15. Super secret spot.
It's unbelievable.
You know, the good holes are the good holes.
Like, why would you come here and like not hang out
on the coastline, I think would be kind of a pretty
valid question.
There's not that many fans, right?
It's like not the easiest place in the world to get to,
so it's not like you're going to be overrun with four.
I got one.
Please.
Number four.
Four sick.
Like four T and three green.
Three green is awesome to sit there,
because they're all hitting cool little wedges,
and you really get a sense of guys touch.
I might be thinking of the US Open, but in years past it's been like a pretty high grandstand
right there too, where you can kind of watch like both at the same time.
You can probably see over the five.
If that exists, I would check that out.
Apologies if not.
The one I would offer is, I believe it's 10 green, where 11 starts to go up back up in
inland.
If you stand by 10 green and 11 you get the coastline
You can look back and and see
9 you can see up to 8 if you're willing to make the walk all the way out to the far side of the property
You're rewarded with a fantastic view and and some good golf watching
You know duck into the village of carmel and
Get a spot of lunch and come back in I will say I think three green is like it's fun to watch guys get the second
shot and three green especially because windy.
It's just very, very uncomfortable.
So that's there's a slightly more controversial and if anyone's interested,
you know, we will be running a scavenger hunt next couple days.
Maybe maybe we'll be maybe something out that direction.
We'll see. What does that mean?
Well, I have I have a sticker and I will put out on the
interwebs what the sticker will be, but I'm gonna tag something somewhere on the
course and if you find the tag, yeah, but approved. So we've totally flipped
them full circle here at TC. A proved ambush marketing. We're gonna tag or
respectfully tag something out on the course. And the first person to find it will receive a prize of some kind.
And we will be announcing that prize.
Hopefully by the end of the day today,
we're trying to make sure that we have all our ducks in a row
before we do that.
So there you have it.
Last spot I was going to throw was, if I remember right,
there's a place to eat between six, seven and eight.
Like basically between six and eight.
That is like the golden,
trying big platform.
I know that's you're asking for kind of secret places,
but if you're looking for a place to have a beverage
and be able to see some really, I mean, you could probably,
I would guess C down nine and 10 down the coast from there.
And I mean, the shot into eight is awesome.
Like behind eight green is a really freaking cool spot
to watch shots come in and watch guys navigate the wind and everything there but and yeah bonus of like that that 4
T areas you're right by 17 T as well you'll just see a lot of golf bonus like
kind of the one good thing about the amateur like like not the celebrities but
just the amateur spinning the field too is you you truly get the context of how
good these pros are because you get the full range the full full spectrum
That's what I was gonna say. It's like I think that plays into it
But just like go watch any of the part threes
I know people don't like five and it's not like a great hole and it's a weird kind of you know apologies to
apologies to mr. Nicholas
But I think just watching shots like rise up into the air
Against the like ocean backdrop and whatever and watching guys drop it onto that small green is very fun
And then like you said you also might get see some am shanking into the ocean a lot of guys are gonna hit it down in that ravine
Chuck Schwab's probably hanging out over probably stop by his house for coffee. Talk to Chuck
You guys want to talk a little bit of golf news that has come through this week.
We have not had a chance to debrief since Tirol Hatton has allegedly joined a live golf
tour that is reported by James Corgan at the Telegraph.
Corgan's been on it.
Oh, he's been breaking news left and right.
He's been on all the departures.
No, come on.
You want to come on the show?
No, come on in.
We've got a spot for you
What what's the what's the reaction set to Hatton's news?
like it seemed like
Maybe that was somebody was going to rely on
So it seemed like it was either gonna be a hat and or windham Clark seemingly so it seemed you know Hatton 11th hour
Seemingly so same you know hat and 11th hour
So he's joining ROMS team allegedly yes Legion 13 allegedly
My cliques you're most legion
You're totally papering over my cliques getting kai Samoya
Adrian simple question was what's the reaction to that?
It's what it's a big shrug. It's whatever. What I'll say is a couple things. One, again, it's going to be interesting to see
what happens with the deal, no deal.
Is there a deal?
Is there not a deal situation?
Shout out to Hallie Mandel.
Can I get some nukes?
Andrew Waterman is the banker up at the top,
just making the phone calls.
So again, it's like if these two things end up coming back together,
who knows what joining live even means.
In the short term, I think it's a big shrug.
I'm very much with you.
But I think the flip side of that that you got to be very honest about
is walking down this range doesn't feel like the event it should be.
If you say to all the best players in the world are going to be here,
that's just the reality of pro golf right now. I think it was it was very easy to shrug off when it was like
They've got three of the best players in the world and now like they do have a
Significant amount of the best players in the world and you can feel it walking down the range here
So it's like it's not a shrug for me like I love watching the PJ Tour
And it would be really cool to see like a capital A all
the best players at Pebble Beach, because we're straight up
not going to have that.
They have a significant, I was just
the only challenge there that have a significant amount
of like 25th through 50th ranked players.
They have like one top 25 player by any measurable,
that's wrong, like by any measurable data over the last year.
Like golf they've played over the last year,
strokes gained, whatever. there's like one guy
in the top 25.
Brooks is a big money player, of course.
I would say the guy that, I walk up and down this range
and I just, because he played this event every year
that I miss the most is Dustin.
Yeah, and there was the question as well from Corbisi
is asking, does the tour have a personality problem,
have most of the big compelling antagonists gone to live
Yes
All right, so so to that quite again a Jung infred and there's a massive yes
Enormous I got that well that's where I would say worse by the day with hat and like I know you got sick of his antics
But I always enjoyed it. It's something to talk about better for having is better for having him. You know, just opus day is no more.
I don't think that there's a point you can reach where it all of a sudden becomes like,
oh wow, now Liv has won. It's just like every win for Liv is just a bigger loss for the tour than it is a win for Liv.
Even the rom thing, I can be totally wrong. Maybe the ratings are going to go absolutely bonanza this week at Liv Mayakoba,
but I would be very surprised that
Who's on each team they haven't even announced although, you know, we still have the amateur parents here either
For the pro and portion of it seems like it seems like the the
You know the goal for live maybe hey, we're gonna load this up and then we're gonna make this the silly season thing
when this eventually comes back together.
So get these guys their money now
and then get them signed up for September
through January stuff globally.
And that kind of removes the anti-trust,
or anti-competitive pawn from the DOJs.
So you basically keep live alive in some format
so that you can argue that there is a competing tour
and there's no anti-trust issues.
Anti-competitive.
That's the glowing brain analysis.
It was easier maybe like two years ago when guys were jumping.
And it was like, I can understand exactly what this means.
Like this means this. And now I'm like, it was like, I can understand exactly what this means. Like this is, this means this.
And now I'm like, okay, I don't know what any of this means. I don't know.
First, I don't know why everyone hasn't jumped, right?
Well, so in that situation that you're just describing there,
so let's just tease that out and say like the PJ tour plays from January 1st to
September 1st, right? Individual stroke play golf,
playing real golf, Bay Hill, Memorial, Riviera, things of that nature.
And then from September 1st to December 31st is like a team sprint that to
your point, like I would assume if I don't know if that's, I don't know if
that's live branded specifically.
I think it is like Saudi branded.
Like, I don't know if it's going to be live golf.
I don't know.
I'd be honest.
Yeah.
That sounds kind of sick.
Yes. Totally. Dude, that sounds kind of sick. Yes
Totally dude the whole idea
This like stroke play portion for you know a big chunk of the year
That's always been like again people think we're moving the goalposts or whatever
I think if you go back and listen to some of those PGL conversations
The whole point was like dude if everybody got to have everybody into a coping DJ you're coping
If everybody got to have everybody into a coping DJ you're coping
Wine more if they if they time up like live Australia with you know the the
Australian open as well of like you know put this back to back weeks and it encourages more guys Joe
Oh my god, just a cold cold
Focus man. Yeah. Locked in.
Joe's locked in.
Hey, Joe.
Joe Griner back here, Max Homus-Caddy.
But you were on a good point there, TC.
Yeah, just time it up with other parts.
Try to lift up certain stuff.
That could be a good thing.
I have no idea how this would work with TGL.
Can you imagine all these guys going to Florida
between farmers and ball frogs? That's a huge loss for the ball frogs.
Shout out to Claire Rogers her tweet of the riots in the street of Boston
Common with the Tirol hat news that he was moving on. No again back to your
point of like the biggest issue we've had with live is like the total
disruption to the competitive golf structure and like you can't fracture this game into two
parts right the whole idea with the PGL was this it was gonna work together it's
gonna have everyone and work together with the PGA tour and it was all gonna
make sense this is the car obviously the current setup does not make any sense
and whatever agreement has to happen there has to be some continuity and it
still just doesn't make sense to be able to play all live golf events in Cherry pick
your own PGA Tour.
And that devastates the PGA Tour.
Even worse than it already has been devastated.
Can we speak of the PGA Tour?
Can we make this like the Tour Championship?
The AT&T, Pebble Beach, like late August, long sunsets,
great weather.
I think that take might age well this week,
as guys are putting on their slicks.
The rain comes in.
The water proofs.
Yeah.
Even walking around for three holes yesterday morning,
it was soggy.
Come on, Thur.
Yeah.
And the deluge hasn't even begun.
Just being the tour champion would be epic.
I think one thing kind of sort of related to this that we were talking about is
You know when you go back to like the tour has an identity or whatever you said identity problem personality problem
Where it doesn't have that is with courses, right? And that's where that's the main thing they do have
we were talking about that with somebody here this week of like do you think the you know
designated elevated signature event momentum runs out by the time you get to, you know, Quail Hollow
or Harbertown or whatever. And it's like, yes, because like the reason I think
everybody's so pumped about this is because of, you know, like that coastline
right there. If we were playing at Poppy Hills, we wouldn't be sitting here right now.
Yes, that's exactly right. And so it is just a weird, I don't know man,
it's just a weird situation that just feels like it's going to be weird for another five years.
I just got a text from someone who we're playing with later this week who said,
we'll probably be a bit wet on Thursday. It's February in Monterey. The tour never ceases to
amaze. Wet-est month of the year. Yeah, it would make a tradition. Again, if the whole, if you were just coming up
with a plan for golf, you would say, like, oh yeah,
we're going to finish the year at this setting, right?
But this event has always been held in this time of year,
and it's probably going to be there for us.
Listen, I love the West Coast Swing.
This is a great event.
Hey, why not?
You'd have two events here, right?
You can come back later in the year.
Totally agree.
Who's next to go make a
lap I'm happy to go make a lap you're gonna make a lot make one see if you
can recruit someone I don't know if anyone can recruit Tommy Latt I would
think it's you I don't know if he's coming out he went to play yeah with
this with his full team that's a worry left to stop the entourage shade I'm
just going on like I see him the full full team did not go because we had to see right here.
He's got to go catch up with them. I'm going to go make a laugh.
I'm going to go. I'm going to go.
Bring us back. Sub to T.C. Thank you.
I do want to call out. We were here to see sunrise.
We guaranteed sunrise this morning.
It was cotton candy sky. Absolutely beautiful.
We were taking some some picks on who's gonna be the first
one on the range i was thinking it was gonna be a a euro player maybe someone
with jet lag um who who was your pick dj i said rory you know
dubai florida still not really probably super acclimated to the west coast maybe
to be up early uh wasn't far off he was here early
solid who's your pick i don't't remember. Okay. I think you said
he's clever. No, he didn't say this clever because Lucas Glover was the first guy on
the range ready to work getting it in. And I thought that was that was cool to see.
That's cool, man. Yeah. Get there early, stay late. Who wants it more? A man of letters.
Lucas Glover is a fascinating guy. You got any more questions from Twitter for us? Well, we haven't, we haven't had a chance
to discuss the Anthony Kim situation yet. I don't really know entirely what it is. There's
a Dylan chair report that he's considering either coming back to the PGA tour or to live.
I know that they was talked about on our podcast on this past Sunday. We were not on that show
this past Sunday, but any, and I'm surprised at how little this, uh, this didn't make me move at all. This Anthony Kim news. And I
can tell you why. Please do. Please. There, I would say there's a reason why, like in
2014 we were, Anthony Kim was atop of a lot of conversations of like, we need this guy
back. It was the, I call it the song you'll know era of the PGA tour. There was a personality
problem back then. It was not brought on. I was at that Zurich class. You'll know one. You all don't even know about that
You don't know anything about that life
There is
First of all Jason day as it says golf is life on the back of it
I thought you couldn't do a message on shirts. I'm gonna have to look into that
I think it's too big for the PGA handbook. You know his source on that?
Anyways, he was still in, that was fresh then. Now he's what, 38 years old, hasn't played
professional golf in 12 years. I do not, I would be absolutely floored if we saw
anything that was reminiscent to 2009, 2010. Even his last, I know he was injured,
but his last couple of years playing the PJ Tour
were not very good.
He was not like the world leader that we people think he was.
I mean, he was a fun personality,
but like he wasn't like the most amazing player ever.
And I, we wanted him back 10 years ago,
and this feels very late to me, if it is real.
So my feelings on Anthony Kim,
it's less that I've always wanted to see him play again.
It's more that I would just love to see him sit down for a three hour interview and explain like,
is there an insurance policy? What happened?
Like it's less about like, can he make the comeback and more about like,
I don't know, being vulnerable is maybe the right word of like what so like what went wrong or like why'd you you know
Why'd you leave?
But it's hard to it's hard to believe that this
Yeah, it's like if anti Kim comes back and then it's he's missing cuts and you know or coming in last in a team event
You know in my a cobra. It's like it's it'd be fun for a couple weeks, but then it might just be a little like
Sad isn't the right word, but just a little bit meh a little black
But it also makes perfect sense for live like I I I don't think live needs it's a dopamine hit
I don't think you need to have like I said
You don't need to have like the 25th ranked through 50th ranked players in the world play live for that to make sense
Like if you want to make it a personality based thing, like we're one step closer to the Paul brothers.
Right?
Right.
You're going to take of signing somebody outside professional
golf.
I think that counts.
I would think that counts.
Lowercase dub on that one.
What's that?
His prediction for 2023 that was that Liv
was going to sign someone outside of professional golf.
We're on my block, though.
About what?
Well, because I was calling out the Paul brothers being out
there.
That's when we talked about it. A year brothers being out there like that's when we talked
About it. No, that was my take
We'll check the tape, but I feel pretty confident about that one. I think that Anthony Kim things weird
listen man time time moves on
start to state the very obvious take but
Nothing lasts forever, you know nobody not as young as we used to be Neil no we certainly aren't it feels a little like a smashing
pumpkin's reunion yeah just ah cool man like it it's not you know 1996 anymore
like it just doesn't really happen I think you know what would be a weird
comp maybe to make is like Ricky Fowler when Ricky Fowler was when Ricky Fowler
was 24 and he's breaking onto the PGA Tour and he's wearing bright colored
clothes, he's got these big belts and he's got the hats and everybody's dressing like him.
The players championship like most exciting, one of the most exciting like players and
eras of you know my time covering golf. He's not like that anymore man. Just time moves on.
So like would I rather see Anthony Kim Kim in fields than not in fields?
I guess probably.
I'm curious.
But do I think it's going to, you know,
do I think suddenly kids are wearing giant belt buckles
and everything is going to be the frenzy that it once was?
Probably not.
Oh, and I would caveat what I said earlier.
I wish him the best.
Like he is coming back.
I hope he plays awesome.
And I hope it's a ongoing story.
And I hope he makes a big comeback.
But it feels like maybe we missed the miss,
missed the window a little bit is what my gut tells me.
But by a lot, I'd say by a lot.
Like it going back to what we're talking about with Max,
the level of play has changed a lot on the PGA Tour
since he last competed on it.
And that's why I said, like Liv would,
I think Liv would make perfect sense for him.
Rather than like Kieran Vincent or whatever
is making up the bottom half of Liv,
like filling that out with Anthony Kimmel.
Is that a real person?
I don't know.
It feels like it is.
Could be.
That's why.
It's called Vincent, I think.
I thought there was another one
that qualified Kieran Vincent. Am I right Cody?
Yeah, I'm right really
Don't ever even word brothers
Brother another question we got from Rob Kowalski. This is a hypothetical one
But how will infusion of cash from investors change the tours product last week was a dud
Should we expect more week-to-week fluctuation?
Why tune in during the non elite events events dude that is like that's the question the
question yes it's a great question from Rob said and it's like what I've been
thinking about non-stop because like Neil you or TC or whoever was pointing
it out earlier like look around man it just doesn't feel like it's like a cash
issue just feels like it's like a robot issue. It feels like it's like a robot issue. Keep my voice down a little bit, but like,
just not that many people really inspiring
wild amounts of change.
I think what it would,
I think what you could probably look at
is more like business structure, right?
If it goes away from the membership organization,
that means you can change how you fill fields.
It means you can change how you do appearance fees.
Change how you make decisions.
Means you can change like everything about your, your process.
But even then is like, okay, that best case scenario probably looks pretty
similar to this. Right? Like all the top guys are here with less commercials.
And it is going to be different and it's going to be better and it's going to
feel bigger. But like, I don't know if it, if we're going from like a, a three to
a 10, like I think we're going from a three to a five,
is what it feels like.
Still golf.
To me, right?
And that's kind of the whole thing,
is like you throw as much cash at it as you want,
it is still like, let me preface this,
nobody loves golf more than me.
Very hard to understand, very hard to get access to,
very slow, very hard to televised.
There's just a lot of constants that are like,
which is like, I think the best case for the TGL stuff.
Was like, man, that as stupid as it might sound to us,
like at least was getting around some of the like,
inflexible things that makes golf really hard.
I think what the cash would help you do is,
you don't have to burn some of these sponsors
that are like absolutely necessary for these
big events. And you can keep that business model running. And you have cash to experiment
with potentially a team thing in the fall or TGL. So that the season feels like it isn't
just 52 weeks of the same thing. It's maybe 30 weeks and with 10 of those weeks being very, very big weeks and 20 of those being like for the diehards and for us to maybe
get some new stars, some fresh blood in the mix. But what's been hard is we're
asking for change from the PGA tour, but it's very hard to change things when you
have these, a lot of long-term contracts with sponsors and they all, you're gonna
elevate one event, but you're gonna burn somebody else.
And it's hard to secure your long-term business
and totally up in your business at the same time.
And so hopefully the cash is almost a little bit of a,
that infusion allows you to, you know,
put together a little skunk works over here.
You know, we're gonna experiment with some things.
Google 10% program.
100, yeah, the moon shots, right?
What was your 10% project? Oh man, what was my 10% program 100. Yeah. The moon shots. Exactly. Right. Yeah. What was your 10% project?
Oh, man. What was my 10% project? I did redesign the Google onboarding logo. Those that don't know
Google when you work there, 10% but it kind of went away. All the consultants had taken over. So
it wasn't as like, you know, jolly, but hate that we can take that offline. Okay. Thank you.
I love what you guys are talking about
there. I think it is one like the number one thing we've talked about. I believe it's
come up on this podcast before is got to figure out how to broadcast this thing. So it's entertaining
and not be riddled down with commercials. I don't know if cash helps that, but for somebody
to come in and reimagine how you present the product would be helpful. I don't I don't
think the private equity investors are coming in and being like, okay, well,
that part's fine, let's just move on
to the next thing we need to solve here.
They would look at that and say,
this product needs to become,
the ratings are gonna be what generates interest,
which is what's gonna generate revenue,
what's just gonna generate the return
on this investment from the investors.
And I was talking to a player on the range yesterday,
which is making it, it's just bottom line,
and he's like, here's what you do.
You're going to take the most sustainable tournaments,
the tournaments that you have a title sponsor,
but if they're not do or die, if you have a title sponsor,
as to whether or not the tournament is going to make money.
And you pick those.
And that becomes your events instead
of relying so hard on so many different title sponsors.
The model just shifts a little bit
towards the most profitable tournaments,
plus outside investment
and getting return out of those tournaments and that's where it gets above my pay grade
But like that again makes it to a lot more sense then I think what's hard
I think like the right way to say this, but if I still really know what like the goal is of all this
Is the goal just to like make the players more money is the goal to make golf like the biggest
televised product in the world.
Is it you don't think it would be.
I think the goal would be to capture the unrealized value in golf, which I think
is there.
It I think is there.
It is held back.
The fucking value like floating around.
That's what I'm saying, but it's too much, but it's spread out too thin.
Like it's an, you know, an inch deep and a mile wide in terms of,
again, going all the way back to the structure of 200 members
on this tour, and that being how decisions get made.
Look how hard it was just to get the limited field events
started.
If you start making more decisions, again,
the 501C6 charitable aspect, whatever you want,
the trade organization, not-for-profit organization
that the PJ Tour is, is made under the charter of, like, I forget what
the exact mission is, but it's like growing the game of golf through the
lens of professional golf or something like that, or something for professional
golfers, right? Like, the tour is for the players. It is their trade organization,
their independent contractors. It's how a lot of decisions get made. There's
no collective bargaining, there's no collective bargaining.
There is no group of owners that are trying
to maximize the top funnel, like the PGA Tour executives
are doing what they can to maximize that funnel,
but there's no plan sketched out for how this whole league
works because it's all made up of these individual events
for these individual players and independent contractors.
And there's a lot of value that sifts through that model,
is what my take would be.
And DGS, great question. I think the goal for the last up until three years ago was
let's keep the gravy train rolling. Like if it's like has been rolling, yeah, like let's not mess
it up. And so now it's like, Oh, wait, that's not going to work anymore. So it probably does need
to be some reflection on what's the goal now. Yeah. It's interesting. I mean, you know, because one thing that's at odds with like, you know, the mandate for
the tour is to get as many playing opportunities as possible for all the members.
Right.
So you have a problem there because maybe you have too many members and because you're
trying to get as many playing opportunities for them, you have to have too many tournaments
where they all get kind of watered down.
So trying to figure that out is tough.
It's really, really tough.
And you walk down this range.
And again, you can talk to five different players,
and you'll get a lot of different reactions, which
kind of speaks to how difficult it's
been to get decisions pushed through.
And I don't see that changing any time in the very near future.
I think that's still going to be quite difficult.
What's going on behind us? You guys are you guys are
Ted Scott was was a
Holden cord you know just kind of given giving a buddy some
Gonna look back and start just not a T.C. Which was a strange visual
Yeah, I'm getting where the TC has quote sparkles in his eyes while talking to Luddy on the range
Which would be a right Ludwig O'Bear
See I'm committed now to doing this Swedish pronunciation Cody like that in his eyes while talking to Luddy on the range, which would be Ludwig O'Bear.
See, I'm committed now to doing the Swedish pronunciation. Cody liked that one.
Cody's face is lit up.
Yeah.
Neil's ragging on me for calling me.
Well, no, it was more of a,
sorry, whenever we go abroad,
he likes to adopt the local pronunciation of things.
You know, we're down under, it's like,
how are you guys getting on?
Oh, good, Bundy! Yeah! It's like, how you guys getting on?
Oh, good, Bundy!
Yeah!
How you going?
How you going?
How you going?
How you going?
Oh, hey!
Cheers, cheers, cheers!
And so then all of a sudden.
Three long blocks for takeaway, please.
Yeah.
All of a sudden, when it's Ludwig saying his name right,
he's just going to die on the hill of Aberg.
No, I'm sitting at the American way.
It's like, well, wait a second.
It's like if you're going to count fringe putts, his put as putts or you're gonna count them as up and down right?
We got a we got a miss on the same side. No, I'll tell you you go with what the person asks and he did a video
Where he's like yeah in Sweden. This is what they call me, but everybody in America calls me well then why wouldn't you say?
Mel born instead of Melbourne, but you say Melbourne see you pronounce it as a local does say Melbourne.
Speaking of Melbourne, I think just a tease.
This is a tease.
I don't think we need to do it now, Cody,
but we do have a little bit of a sizzle for season nine.
Season nine.
Return to Australia.
We were not in Argentina, despite Cody and TC's
misdirection attempts.
That was bad faith.
We did go to Australia for tour sauce.
I think we got some visuals from that.
Maybe we roll those in a little bit.
We've got another thing.
We're talking about a lot of PJ Tour decision making.
We shot a video with one of those decision makers
yesterday, Jordon Spieth, as well as his caddy, Michael
Greller.
We got a video coming out.
Matt, what do you think that video is going to be done tonight?
Tonight.
Happy birthday, Matt.
Can't rush great. That video will be. Happy birthday. Now what do you think that video is gonna be done tonight? Tonight
Fill you up with a bachi and then drop you back at the hotel and finish editing
Do we want to drop the Australia trailer? Do we need to wait for it for any reason in particular? Oh, it's supposed to be a right, you know, I don't stick around
Next plenty of people are sticking around.
The numbers keep going up.
People tune in to the live stream.
If you are just now tuning in, we
are live from the range, of course, at the AT&T Pebble
Beach Pro Am.
TC is out walking the range right now,
trying to recruit some guests for us.
He's talking to Aaron Dill.
He's probably trying to get new guests.
He's not.
He is not trying to recruit guests for us.
He's trying to get his stuff done.
Nobody was available. Dill's sending me three new wedges. He's going to stamp his stuff done. I don't know what he was available.
Jill's sending me three new wedges.
He's going to stamp them.
I saw it was supposed to rain on Thursday,
so I had to get a new wedge set up.
Let's talk a little Spyglass Hill.
In prior versions of this tournament,
there was you played Pebble Beach, you played Spyglass Hill,
you played Monterey Peninsula, then first three rounds.
This year you will Cypress Point. It was this year. Cypress Point, long ago.
Cypress Point.
Long time ago, Cypress Point.
Now it is just Pebble Beach and Spyglass Hill.
When it was three courses, it's already a huge logistical challenge to broadcast this
event, but getting cameras out to three different courses was a challenge.
You kind of just got a little snippet of the courses here and there.
Allegedly, we're hearing that now that they're just down
to two courses, Spyglass Hill might be getting a little bit
extra run on the telecast this week, which I hope so.
And good for everybody.
Well, as somebody who's been to this event,
third time, I still have yet to make it over to Spyglass.
You don't see it a lot on TV, but the players rave about it.
I asked Rory, I was like, what do you think of Spyglass?
I've played it once before.
He thinks it's harder.
It's really hard.
You have to be very tactical, precise out there.
So he said he was looking forward to playing it this week.
What was your takeaway from playing it?
Championship golf course is what it is.
It is, I mean, deep bunkers, big mounding,
and a lot of elevation change, and it's thick rough,
and narrowish fairways,
a lot of slopes kind of working against you off the tee.
You just stand on a bunch of those holes,
and you're like, ooh, this looks like a pro golf hole.
The first four holes are, and we have some videos that
have been rolling out this week, profiling each of the first four
holes.
We have two of them released so far.
We'll do holes three and four tomorrow,
but are just set in this awesome sandy landscape.
Like, it's all the pictures you would see of spyglass come from those first four or five holes.
A great downhill.
Par 5 opener bends way to the left.
You got to really hit a draw around the corner on that one, and then hit a ball off a hanging
lie down to this little green that's actually elevated at the bottom of the hill, which
is kind of funky.
It's just really, really, really hard to hold that green.
And there's a par 5 that played over par last year at the, at the, in the event,
which you don't see very often on the PGA tour. And you go up the second hole,
plays this like kind of bite off as much as you want into the fairway,
play up to this little elevated green, this tiny little green that like, hey,
if you hit the green, you're going to obviously have a very good look at birdie.
And if you miss it, because the green is so small, if you miss it,
like you're going to have a really hard time getting up and down
What if I told you we have video of of these exact? Oh gosh, I didn't even know we do well
Well, just good because I gotta use a bath. We can maybe we can roll those right now
Wow whoever put those together did an excellent job. That's where that was a fantastic tour and first fantastic mr. TC back with us
We got three need three nuggies. What do you got for us? Well, on the subject of spyglass, I was talking to our friend Ludwig
and his cat, Joe Scovron. Ludwig said quote spyglass is sick.
Oh, wow. That is late 18 out there yesterday. He was a little late
for his tea time. He was supposed to have at 931. He was he was
not at his tea time at 931.
So he's going to hop on the show tomorrow with us.
But he did say Spyglas is sick.
I told him, look out for our videos,
help you to know the course a little bit better.
That'll probably help more than him playing the course,
I'm sure.
Ludwig went back to Sweden for the holidays.
I asked him if he was tired after the grueling 2023 season
across multiple different levels of golf.
He said, quote, yes, he was tired.
Great insight there, TC.
And then I asked him how he got from Sweden to Hawaii.
He flew from Copenhagen to LAX to Maui.
I thought for sure he was going to go Stockholm to New York
to Maui.
But he didn't.
He went Copenhagen through LAX.
There you have it.
Believe that.
So three Ludwig nuggies.
Yeah.
Scovrin also said that he can back Max up when Max said
that Scovrin's not playing good golf right now.
Scovvy said, I am not playing good golf right now.
A second source that Joe Scovrin is not
playing good golf right now.
Danny McCarthy is walking past right now.
We got Ben on.
I didn't realize how much of a unit he is.
Oh, yeah. I was talking to Aaron much of a unit he is. Oh yeah.
I was talking to Aaron Dill a little bit about...
Yeah, we were thinking you were just not going to get nuggies and go get some new wedges.
Mr. Hat is walking by Brandon Woo right now, but Aaron Dill was saying, you know, a couple
grind changes, but most guys were kind of focusing on things being wet here anyway.
So no biggie there.
OK.
Our Kevin VanValkenburg has been roaming the range,
and we're going to bring him in for a little bit of a guest
appearance here yet.
First, Cody is going to drop in to say.
I haven't made a culpa.
I just messed up, and the chat is all over me.
We missed the beginning of your take
when you said I was talking to Lutty on the range. And what he said, Spyglass is sick, but that's pretty much it.
He said Spyglass, he said quote. I apologize everyone. We're doing it live, we're trying
to get it figured out, but KVV. That's unfortunate. Listen, but that's gonna happen.
This is what happens when you try to do it live here.
KVV. Shout out to TC for doing some on-site reporting.
What did you think of his shirtless show?
Introduced him to Scalvy and Scovrun.
So we're helping each other out.
Influencers and reporters, meeting in the middle.
How does your range routine work, KVV, when you come to a tournament?
How do you get little nuggets?
It's a real awkward sort of feel, right?
You have to kind of gauge, like, is someone open to talking?
Or is that there's that 30-second spot,
but kind of when they're done doing their workout,
and then they're going to walk to the putting green,
where you can grab them?
Or sometimes some guys are like, if you catch their eye,
and they're kind of like, give you a nod, that means, like,
hey, come over and say, you know, ask me a question,
or introduce yourself or whatever.
And so it's a, I don't know, a lot of reporting is just being intuitive.
And I guess just feeling like you are able to read people.
I've definitely read people wrong and gotten it out of here.
I'm doing this is my office.
How dare you come into my office?
And, but yeah, that's, I think that's always a delicate line to bounce.
But you can, every, if there's like a track man out and somebody's looking at a
screen and kind of like, ah, it's probably not the right
time. This is serious grinding time. But it's also like, ah, he's got, you got three
minutes to talk to me. And then you realize there's 12 people behind there.
Like, oh yeah, he's, that all fake. He's got three minutes to talk to me. Yeah.
That's that leading to your insecurity on the range. There is, I have some of that
too. Well, it's just, it's just reps, right? But there's an art to, we were
talking about it,
working a locker room in football or basketball.
Baker Mayfield once MF'd me.
I think I've still told this on the trap door a few times
when I walked up to him and was like,
hey, I'm in a, from ESPN,
I'm gonna write a feature about you.
And he's like, get the F away from me.
Like you, how dare you come up to me right now?
It was like in the hallway.
And it was somehow like I had violated it.
How dare you?
I don't think Baker Mayfield's good enough to do that. Yeah, I mean, I've like gone up to Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and they give you a polite decline to me right now. It was like in the hallway and it was somehow like I had violated his figure.
I mean I've like gone up to Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and they give you a polite
decline and this was Baker's I think rookie year and so to get MF'd by him was like.
That's tough.
He hearing that.
Yeah. But you know what? I don't hold it against him. You can't.
Who's the meanest athlete you've, or the hardest somebody has been to you when you have put in a request.
Sam Adams for the Ravens, he was a big defensive lineman.
The Brewer?
Yeah, he was.
And the Patriot?
I don't, was he on the Patriots?
No, he was the Sam Adams.
Oh Sam.
Sorry, DC.
He's kind of the founding father.
Yeah, he was a grumpy, he didn't like to talk,
so sometimes when you try to get him,
one time Ray Lewis screamed at me because he felt like I was
Oh my God, that's the wrong guy to scream at you.
Taken up too much of Shannon Sharpe's time,
and I think they were going off to have Thanksgiving dinner.
And I was talking to Shannon, and Shannon could just talk.
Like, before his media career, he'd already launched his media career,
like, you know, even before he retired.
And Ray Lewis was real like, come on, man!
Like, hey, Jenna's an old Peyton Manning,
because I was talking about talking to him
about Peyton it was like Peyton was a
rookie I think so why is Peyton not
playing this that's a great question I
don't know he did with his brother right
Peyton you ever played this for a while
yeah he played it Bellachick played it
in you think remember Bellachick was playing
with Ricky Barnes I remember my favorite
rainy jokes ever was,
man, I love that one week after the season
and he's already scouting tight ends.
Ricky Barnes dad played for the Patriots.
Did he really?
I did not know that.
I did play tight ends for the Patriots.
That makes a lot of sense.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, but just working the range, saying hello to some people,
getting some, hopefully some insight.
Any residual sadness from your Ravens?
You know, some sadness about the game plan, TC.
Like, they ran six times.
That's the lowest they ran all year.
That's insane.
Like, how do you come out?
You know how many freaking yards
like Chiefs gave up the previous week?
Like, 190.
So, like, the idea that the Ravens would come out
and just throw it all over and think that, you know,
they were trying to prove a point somehow was ridiculous.
Mm. Yeah, I don't know. I was sad as a ball knower that the Chiefs are.
Well congrats to Kyle.
I know that there was some dark times for the ball knowers in that moment but we turned
it around.
We flipped it at the bottom.
Optimism rules the day.
And congrats to me for winning the draft this year.
For real.
You won last year, I believe.
Is that right?
I did.
Resoundingly.
Yeah, one championship here, one championship there.
What's your stoke level like for this week?
You went to the US Women's Open out here last year.
This is the first time we've seen Pebble Beach in this light
as a signature designated elevated event.
Has it got you genuinely excited?
Yeah, at least.
I think yeah, yeah. No, I'm always Yeah, at least. I think yeah.
I'm always stoked for Pebble. I think it's what a like own goal that for years the tour
didn't have like a regular like event with all the best players here at this course,
right? It's the one course that everybody knows, you know, is a casual golf fan and
wants to sort of have really good players be at. I'm psyched to see Rory here. Rory
has said he hasn't played here. He was talking to him yesterday. Said he hadn't been here since the US Open.
And that's crazy to go five years without one
of your most marquee players playing
one of your best courses.
And I want to see Scotty hit some shots here
that I think will be pretty cool.
I mean, it's just a no-brainer, right,
to have to see some of the most famous shots across eight
or down to seven.
It feels like it's a no-brainer to have more professional golf on the ocean
For sure, so you got here yet Hawaii obviously Tori could argue on the ocean
The ocean course Kiyoa. What else what am I missing? That's you see a good amount of
Like you know, I'm always frustrated.'s not an event in the North Pacific Northwest.
It feels like chambers could be a really good recurring location.
Chambers needs to get another major.
I'm gonna build some infrastructure.
But if you're thinking about the tour and the personnel...
What's the first thing you think of when you think of Chambers?
It's a tragedy!
It's actually a tragedy!
But you're talking about the tour having a personality issue out here.
I'm saying one thing that's a pro is they do have some context and history with courses and if
and if the ocean ones it's such it's just it's great for TV and the fact that
we don't have more tournaments that you know just have striking coastline is
Neil think something could be improved. Another tournament, the Mexico Open, presented by Vedanta.
Yeah.
Ocean.
Yeah, I was going to say, I think what works best for the tour,
honestly, is familiarity.
If you're talking about getting the most amount of people
to tune in, it's familiar courses.
People tune in to watch RIV, and it's not on the ocean.
So I don't know.
I like watching Ocean Golf as well.
I'm not saying every course should be, but there's probably a room in the road up for a few more because it's a lot early
With Sony and with Kapaluah and then Tori and here and then we don't see it again
Until maybe you get you know the PGA at the ocean course or something
But otherwise you basically till the open championship
You're even gonna see that a body of water again other than a you know
Well, you get back to to see a body of water again other than a, you know.
Well, we can get back to the realities of pro golf,
though.
It's like when you, like, whistling straights,
when you are cut off on the entire side of the golf course,
if not being able to get fans in or out of there or seated
there, like, it just becomes that much harder for logistical.
I think the one that I'm speaking of personality
in PGA tour venues, the one that I'm most bummed about,
that they're getting, that they've gotten rid of is Chipotle peck
Yeah, it was such a weird house of mirrors that you know would make for fun golf
The first to announce her who's just got you so hyped
This is probably the closest to some of those weird shots
They had to hit at Chipotle peck with you know, and it's on kind of bouncy greens here and really small
Shrunk in and like they got it it They got to expand these greens back out
Although I am excited for them to go to
Castle pines this year for the BMW get guys playing at altitude. I think the players are gonna
Complain like crazy about the walk there though. Love it. That's great. I'm watching some of these these
about the walk there though. Love it.
That's great.
I'm watching some of these AMs warm up.
And it's like I recognize a few of these high powered CEOs.
I don't know who they are.
I'm like, have I seen him on CNBC?
Maybe.
Probably.
You know what I mean?
It's like I recognize that guy's face,
but I have no idea who he is.
DC's played golf with most of these guys.
I'm sure he could help you with the list here.
Yeah.
Can't Lace grinding with JJ and Beason Beck down on that one.
No, that's not, that's...
That's JJ right there.
JJ right there.
Nils, as a business guy, do you think any business ever gets done with the...
No, that's Windham down there.
Oh, that's Windham down there?
Yeah.
Sorry.
Do you think any business ever gets done in a program like where relationships are formed
at the development?
Nils, I think...
Well, it sounds...
I think some sponsorships get done I would say like it sounds like
The Megacorp was a bright Harman's initial deal was a pro-am with the CEO. I think a lot
I will probably just a no, I think a regular program. Yeah
What I feel like you're not you're not like doing the business turning the round
I don't think like you're working you might you know talk about it But it's more round. I don't think you're like, you're working. You might, you know, talk about it,
but it's more about the forming of the relationship.
And it's just, you get me in this pro and I'll take you out to Cyprus and that
whole network of how stuff gets done seems to be very real.
I'm kind of bummed that, uh, Andrew Waterman is not playing this year.
Yeah. You think that it would have been a great opportunity to get him to know some
of the people. Yeah.
Pie man, you got three.
I'm going to sub out and see if we can do some recruiting.
I know Pie Man has dug up some probably just bombastic nuggets.
Don't forget to take your headphones off.
Do you want to know if they're going to be better than my love big nuggets?
Do you want to take a quick break to do to run the spy holes or do you want?
We're going to we're going to give you a preview of holes three, four,
take a quick little break and then we'll be right back.
We're going to give you a preview of holes 3-4, take a quick little break, and then we'll be right back.
The third hole at Spyglass Hill is another dramatic one,
both with the views and the elevation change
from T to green.
This is the most exposed part of the property.
So you can essentially guarantee that you're going to need
to navigate some sort of wind on this shot.
This is where the downhill nature of the hole
makes it difficult, is the ball is going to be
in the air a long time.
It's just really tough to get the right number here.
It's just worth taking a second to admire the scenery here, hitting shots right at the
ocean is just always a thrill.
And if you strain your eyes a little bit, you can see Cypress Point just on the other
side of this ridge.
I love the fourth hole.
It's by Glass Hill.
It's a short par four and the last hole in the course that's set in this ridiculously
cool landscape. It's just got a wildly unique green. It's only a 370 yard hole.
Of course, the wind is likely going to dictate how you want to play it. You can try to drive it
all the way up close to the green, but actually if you get it too far, you've got no shot at the
pin because this green banks from back to front or from right to left. If you're looking at it,
kind of from the fairway, fairway also narrows the farther up you go
and the car path and all that bad stuff on the right
really creeps in the more you try to bite off.
And oh yeah, it's about as narrow of a green
as you'll ever see.
The camera is not deceiving you here.
It is that narrow.
It's actually probably feels even smaller
when you actually stand on it.
You have to be precise here.
If the greens have even a little bit of bounciness to them,
the angle you come in at to this green
is gonna be important.
What's up guys? Welcome back to the channel.
Sitting in for Solly.
Look at me. Look at me. How was that? I'm the captain now. Exactly.
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Shout out to Ramon.
I don't know if, it's not for me,
it's for my daughter, Lisette.
Yes.
The, I don't know if my nuggets are super hyper
electric. Here's what I would say.
Saw Christian Bazaiden, Hote out there unit much bigger than I
thought that's on me. Obviously he's been around for a while.
I was not familiar with your game.
True. I was not familiar with your game much, much bigger than
I thought. That's not a very good one. Second one.
I don't know if you can see it.
I was trying to really want to sit here
because over my right shoulder here, your left,
if I move this way, you can maybe see him he's moving.
There's an amateur back there
and just an electric monochromatic maroon fit.
Oh yeah, way back there.
Anything I've ever seen, I don't know who it is.
I was trying to effort, you know, find out who that was.
But just if, I got to think,
I don't know how much of a collection
I got from the twisted mind of Stephen Malbac.
This is raw.
Exactly.
I don't know who that is, but you know,
I really respect if you're gonna pay,
I don't know what the amount is to pay,
you know, to play in this event.
If you're gonna do it,
you might as well show up wearing something like that.
So I wanted to shout that guy out.
The third thing, well-timed,
because I know you were just talking about, you know,
sponsors and things of that nature.
Any of you guys, no cheating if you saw this
on your last walk around,
who the bag sponsor is for Mark Hubbard, homeless hubs.
Dude wipes?
No.
I think he used to be a dude wipes guy.
Is it a housing corporation?
This is going to be really dystopian for you, KVV.
I think I know it, so I won't answer,
but unless you want me to answer.
Is it USA Sports?
USA Today Sports.
Yeah, really?
Yeah.
In the header, Gannett.
Is it Gannett or Gannett?
Yeah.
I got to imagine.
Your people, KV.
With the state of media going around,
to throw some money towards a bag sponsor.
What we should do is take health care away from our reporters
and get a bag sponsor.
Just I thought that was a really interesting one.
Maybe we can get some more clarity on that.
Cody, I think maybe we're going to run a little bit more video.
We talked about this earlier.
We had a chance to sit down with the Lynx, I guess, really
stand up with the Lynx master, Jordan Spieth, yesterday
here on the range at the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro Am.
No real structure to the video.
It was kind of like, hey, how about we just roll the mics
for about a half hour, and we're just
going to ask you and Greller a bunch of
questions. I think that video is gonna be ready tonight. Cody, you want to get just
a little sampling for the people of what they might expect.
Michael, what's Jordan's nervous tick when you can tell he's really kind of on
edge? Probably when I'm start walking like this.
What do you remember about the first time cadding for him?
First time cadding for Jordan, I boned him over the green at Gold Mountain on number 10.
US Junior Amp 2011.
When you disagree with something on the golf course, how do you communicate that?
For a while I was getting V-toes, but Jordan gave me unlimited V-toes.
Ah, so it's like unlimited PTO.
It's not really more valuable.
I'm not going to recognize it.
I think when I got to my fifth straight Vito and he re-Vtode me, we went away from the
Vtos.
Lots of good stuff in there.
Look out for that later on the YouTube channel.
I would just say, what I love about Spieth is just he, you want to ask him good questions
because he really makes an effort to give you good answers. And having Greller there
too was a great back and forth with both of them.
I heard TC made it put some Cowboys questions too.
I did ask him who his favorite cowboy of all time was and he said Roger Stavak which felt which that was that's
what we opened up with a little bit like all right let's be real who's really
who's your hero Neil Armstrong right there. Jay Novichok is right there and I
asked him about you know what he would do a deck and he declined to answer he said
TC that's too good of a question. That too good. We simply can't answer it. Maybe he's come on the ball knowers
Kind of a ball no, there was a lot of
It's like the temp drops about 10 degrees
15 minutes and starting to get the shivers out cover rolling in TC your atmospheric river might be
Show some tributaries
You know, I was going to ask you guys?
I don't know if you guys talked about this while I was gone.
Apologies if you did.
Who's your DreamPro amp partner?
JP McManus.
Really?
Oh, yeah.
Why?
Like, if I'm the pro, who do I want to have my amp?
Yeah.
Yeah, JP McManus.
He's got all the stories.
He'll get done. Yeah. Yeah. J. Fee McManus. He's got all the stories. He'll get done. He'll
probably have a good side game going. He's just like a freaking legend. The guy, what?
He shorted the British pound, I think, and then made all his money in horse racing. He
used to be a stable hand basically I think.
Patrick Rogers walking in. He's kind of had a nice career resurgence. Sure.
Year of late. Who would your guy be? Man. I don't know. It's hard to... I know I asked
this question so I can make up the rules but I don't know if we have to limit it to
like a golfer. Right? Just have to be somebody that we know plays golfer or could it just be anybody
You just want to you know, Bob Ross hours a day with maybe Bob Ross
I don't think he's playing much golf these days in the rules again. Are you the pro and you're the pro business?
Yeah, I'm with any am yeah, I think that's the question right yeah, I think so
What Pro do you want to play? Elon Musk, right?
I think after this doesn't come out yet, but with? What pro do you want to play with? I think yours would be like Elon Musk, right? Musk would say, I think after this
doesn't come out yet, but our owner's pot at Steve Pashotti
would be a great.
Oh, that's a great answer.
Steve Pashotti is a really enjoyable, I think,
is he the owner of?
The Ravens.
Los Ravens.
It's kind of stud, too.
I was really impressed after we did him.
I'm excited for that owner's pot to drop.
That spoiler, he's one of the owners that we did.
We even dropped that one.
No, we haven't.
It's coming out this week, I think the shoddy and who else would do
tepper tepper tepper would also be I honestly I think tepper would be one
that I would put on seven balls into the ocean. Yeah. It's a rage. It's fired three
caddies. Yeah. Yeah. You know who would be a good one. This is this is not an
exciting answer. I'll think of something better. But you know, I really enjoy
talking to know they're super
deep in a golf massive business catalog to draw on your guy Tim Boyle.
Oh, yeah, the true merch are the true merch are the guys started
Columbia sports where we had it had a couple of a couple of Miller lights
with him. I think your heart is mom. His mom and dad started right. And then he
took over when his dad passed away Just an interesting business interesting guy
Flies around does everything but seems like a very normal beer drinking beer drinking man. Yes, that's it
I'm very glad that tepper's not involved with the strategic sports group. Yeah
You'd be a pretty poisonous addition to that my answer
I think he would
want you to try to bully us out of the room. He would not be the kind of like even tempered
person. You want to buy the piss. Yeah. Fire you. My answer is, you know, I might get
some some hate in the comments because no, it's divisive, but Dave Matthews drummer Carter
Bofert is a massive golfer. He's a divisive. Well, no, Dave is. I know there's a lot of
Dave haters probably in the chat.
There's also some worse guys from the band you could have picked.
Well, for sure.
But he's probably my favorite drummer of all time.
And I just feel like I would have a lot to talk to him about.
And the fact that he loves golf and always smiling feels like he'd be a great energy out there on the golf course.
Who would be the worst? I mean it's
got to be someone that doesn't really want to I think you're interact. It has to be a
golfer. Somebody who takes themselves wildly seriously I think would not be
fun. I feel like maybe somebody like Jim Kramer the guy on you know the mad money
guy I think I would kind of be like dude shut up number one wrong like yeah you have a bunch of oh you know you know this place
was founded in 1862 it's like you guys if you get it early call it though yeah
for sure yeah you're gonna love that great Jack great Jack great Jack great
Jack great Jack great Jack like no shut up my brakes right I'm making it
break yeah great job you're gonna love that. I don't know how those guys put up with him on on CNBC
Like shit. You know, what is it? Carl Kintanilla? The other guy just always like a big what's what are they gonna?
Like what's he gonna say next? God, I did not see that one coming. That's really you like that one. Don't really really good
I know you're a big rep bear guy. He's you know Marist guy huge burning tree massive golfer
I'm sure he'd be low key
I mean, I don't think you know another good one Kenny G would be tough
I don't think he seems like he takes himself very seriously. He does have great hair, but I
Don't know if I'm I'd be in for that. I think you're doing Kenny G dirty
Maybe talk about continuous breathing with him the ability to blow out and breathe in through your nose is something
It's always fascinated me. Yeah yeah that's how you got your nose thing Kenny G has
the Guinness World Record for the longest note ever played is like 54 minutes
because he just can do it there's certain guys that can yeah alright see I
didn't know this is why these conversations are helpful so you can
talk to him about how you can train yourself to do it but it's very
difficult but a lot of like the good trumpet players, you know, who else can do it is a trombone shorty. Oh yeah. He's, he's a trombone player. Obviously
he'd be a good pro amp partner. I don't know. He plays golf. He wasn't in my top five. Yeah.
We've gotten a little off the rails. How are the comments looking? Good?
Great. Fantastic. I'm doing fantastic. Who's doing better than I'm trying to think of who
my worst would be. I mean, to think of who my worst would be I
Mean, I think I think Elon would be up there as like if you could get like a bad CEO
Like he would be a very very tough. Well, I think you imagine trying to disrupt the whole time
Hey guys, okay?
Should I buy this course or what?
Should I buy this course or what? Huh?
Huh?
All right.
That's the debut of my A-Lon impression.
You know what?
You know what?
Jim Dolan.
Jim Dolan would be tough.
Jim Dolan would be bad.
Cody's throwing out Zuck as well.
Zuck?
Yeah.
I think Zuck would just be wakeboarding out in the world.
T.C. would talk about smoking meats with him.
I could have his sunscreen on.
Oh, god.
Suck.
TC, do we want to...
You know what?
I'm debating whether we should just talk about Sally's pebble take while he's not here.
We should.
We should.
We should.
We should.
We should.
We should.
We should.
We should.
We should.
We should. We should. We should. We should. We should. No, all right. So can you lay it out?
Well, we were talking, it started as we were going through the top 100 golf courses
and Lofoten Lynx is on that list.
And we're unsure if it's a top 100
from a golf course standpoint,
but I was arguing that the landscape that it's in,
and it's probably the most striking coastline
I've ever seen.
And Solly said that he felt like Pebble Beach
was more striking than Lofoten Lynx
Which listen and being out here it is very striking coastland, but I feel like coastline excuse me
but I feel like
Being at the end of the world with less development around sure puts Lofoten ahead of
of pebble and
You know that the artificial retaining walls
and things like that make the landscape a little bit less.
I know the mowing line is really buggy.
And the mowing line.
Yeah.
Well, we thought, I think the tape would show
that he said it's the most striking coastline anywhere.
We'd had a lot of wine at this point as well.
Yes.
But we'll say that it was golf.
I will argue though, in Solid's defense,
if you go down the coast about 20 to 50 miles,
Big Sur probably is some of the most incredible coastline
in the world.
So I don't think he's as far off.
I'm starting to.
Is it true, TC?
Maybe the best coastline in the world,
but not necessarily in the county.
But I do disagree with him saying that from a golf
standpoint, it's the most striking.
I would disagree.
No old hat? Well, he's going to the most striking. I would disagree. No old hat?
Well, he's moving the golf post a little bit.
You're in.
You're in.
Striking coastline on the Monterey Peninsula.
You were doing so well.
I did not say it was the most striking.
You said Lufthun was the most striking setting for golf
you've ever played in.
I feel that way.
I mean, like, Pebble's a better location than that.
That was not to say it is the number one
Spectacle
We'll stand down we'll put a pin in that one for now. I felt like that was that's a good opening date on we can
Pebbles specific Bay is the best coastline in the area
I was just giving an example. Yeah, you don't like still water. Hey, it's the water. I don't hate it
I just don't think it's the best water cove question. Why do you guys like like why did Tiger not this is a great idea
Privacy is yacht during the US Open TC was going into hyper description yesterday about what he would do if he was playing in the tournament Park a yacht out there potentially either dingy or jet ski back to the
Shower sauna 40 or 50 oysters. Maybe that's what happened to DJ between rounds three and four at the 2010 US Open
We convinced Neil that that was Ron Jeremy's house. No, not we you all of a sudden you convinced all of us that that was
I was like
so dead you never do this. Yeah, it was not a conversation. And he goes you know whose house that is.
I was like, you know what? Honestly, I don't know who did I get. I guess somebody good Papa John.
Yeah, he's like, oh, you're not for office Ron Jeremy's house. Like what really? No,
it's like, whoa, what? what it just guy just really
Seriously, why wouldn't you like if you had a big ass yacht? Why wouldn't you park it out in stillwater cove and just hang out on your yacht might be some ordinances?
They're big on ordinance. Oh, there's no question. I've had to ask myself
Yeah, where do you park your Airbnb? No, I've looked believe me
Because when we rent the house for US Women's Open,
it would cost the same to have a yacht.
I promise.
We Airbnb'd the house this week.
Both those Airbnbs, there's an Airbnb
that they will drive this yacht up the coast.
It's not the nicest yacht, but it's a yacht.
And it hangs out in Stillwater Cove
and you can ding you back and forth.
That's awesome.
I thought about proposing it to you.
We have an Aaron Rodgers sighting behind us.
I need three nuggets out of you.
A great one. I was intrigued.
Sam Ryder was over there hitting golf balls on only his left foot
with his right holding the club only with his left hand
and holding his left arm with his right hand.
And he was flushing balls only off his left foot doing that.
Like almost crosshanded.
I don't know what that drill is, but that one definitely
come out.
He was left foot.
Off his left foot.
With his right hand.
Only holding the club with his left hand.
Holding his left arm with his right hand.
So not quite crosshanded.
The right hand was not on the club.
He's holding it like that and doing a drill,
hitting balls like that.
Had not seen that one before.
And he was flushing it.
That's one.
Should try that.
Also, breaking news.
Max potentially trying out a new lob wedge.
Wow.
He's overheard that part.
That was not.
He probably heard.
It's not to hear.
That was not.
Her TC was in the T-grind.
I thought it was going to be good for his game, too.
All of our golf coaches, Corey Lundberg,
who's out there working with homeless hubs,
wants to come and chat about Kyle Shanahan.
He might swim by here.
Really?
He wants to talk to you about the ball knower.
He specifically called out the ball knowers
and said he wanted to come have a chat.
Great day to be a ball knower.
Trying to convince Steven Yeager to join.
It was quite noncommittal, but he's going to try.
And I counted 61 non-playing people out on this drive.
Does that include you?
62.
That makes I am in that group as well.
Are they running out?
Who's got this other DeWalt bag here?
That's Jason Day.
Day.
Oh, that's Day still.
OK.
We've got amateurs are supposed to be down here.
Pros are supposed to be down here.
It's totally fine.
I'm not sure where the amateurs are supposed to go go how long TCC CEO friends are no space on the
range
and Aaron Rodgers walking in together both units This specific range might be the flushiest range.
We get to go to a lot of these places.
We've heard impact.
Listening to like Cam Davis and Max hit balls down there,
I was like, holy shit.
Man, like, sounds so incredible coming off
the clubface right now.
Oh, god.
You might need to get, like, destroying the ball.
I'm workshopping this on the fly,
but Saul, you might need to start some sort of turf index.
Ooh. I like that. What is pebble on the fly, but so you might need to start some sort of turf index. Oh
I like you know like what is pebble over here right on the turf index is this like a
8.2 I would say it's like that. Oh and interesting natural follow-up. What's the highest turf index you've ever seen?
I'm gonna have to think on that a little bit
Just for ranges or anything anything I'm assuming is what you're asking. I mean sand belt
Turf was it's it's interesting a little sticky though. So I'm not gonna be a little bouncy So it's like the common cooch like the bounce of the ball. Yeah, that's that. No, but I like the way talking about flush. Yeah
The flushiness meter right she con queso. Yeah, well, it's your index. I mean you take it up with it
You gotta help me help me workshop it. Yeah. I would say there's a lot of good
ones on the West Coast of just like the I this again might be sound really dumb.
I truly think the ball comes off the club straighter on grass like this than
like Bermuda. What? Overseeded? Right. Just right. Yeah. Just any almost northern grass.
I think the ball comes off straighter. It always feels like you're taking a
training wheel off when you, uh,
or that's wrong analogy.
When you're taking like the donut off after getting off the on deck circle,
when you go north and you're hitting, go from Bermuda to like hitting off grass
like this.
Will you anything for like, I would say Bermuda versus anything.
Yeah.
You brought up the Australian turf.
I don't, we've danced around it.
We haven't really talked about our Australia trip at all.
I know we have some tour sauce footage. We're gonna roll in shortly
TC do you have anything to say about our travel in?
Specifically, you know how things ended up. I just want to apologize for that form
Do you have anything to say about our travel out? I stand you know I stand with you in good times and bad
I'm just I'm asking the questions as yeah, we had a we had an hour delay
I'm just I'm asking the questions as yeah, we we had a we had an hour delay
Boeing maintenance issue on the seven eight was closer at two hours. No, it was an hour. It was an hour leaving and then somehow it was
We didn't make up the time in the air. We missed another Boeing issue. We missed our connection at LAX We probably should have booked through SFO. That's on me. We're gonna get better from it
We ended up driving from LA what was our
you didn't say anything about the airline I'm just looking I don't know if
Ed Bastion the Delta CEO might be in the field this week I know he's been in the
past I'll try to get him on the live show yeah listen I apologize on behalf of
everybody thank you well 13 fall in a 13-day trip down to Australia different parts of Australia Sydney Adelaide
Melbourne
Melbourne King Island
King Island back to Melbourne
Melbourne however you want to say it so nobody's saying Melbourne a bird Melbourne
I think ready to say Melbourne
Aberg, Melbourne. I think Rady said Melbourne, what?
Well, T.C., I feel like this was kind of your baby
putting this thing together.
Talk to me about why going back to Australia.
I'm sure the haters and losers of which there are many
are going to say you already did that.
We don't need to see that again.
This looks like Qualtrics Ryan rocking up.
Oh, yeah.
I thought Jack and the owner.
Yeah, you know what?
People were saying, why back to Australia?
You guys already did that.
We really didn't do it.
Like, we were down there for five and a half days
and filming it on cell phones.
It didn't do it justice.
I think it's truly the best golf in the world.
I haven't played a lot around London.
I think that's probably the only other place
that would compare.
But overall, I think we wanted to go do it.
We wanted to show more of Australia.
Last time we just went to Melbourne and a little bit
of Barbougal, Tasmania action.
So we wanted to go a level deeper.
And we did we were 12 or 13 days instead of five and a half.
And what, only two, three of the same courses?
Yeah, we went to St. Andrew's Beach,
which was the first course we went to
the first time we were there.
We played all 18.
Played all 18 instead of just a jet laggy nine,
Kingston Heath and Royal Melbourne West.
And then everything else is brand new,
which, you know what, I don't think we have all the-
We had to get Randy there.
And Randy was not there last time as well.
Was not able to.
Cody, I think we have a clip. Maybe we can roll. This is just a couple of the
scenes. There's no rhyme or reason to this made this on the plane when I
should have been sleeping. But here's what it looks like. And it's, you can tell
it looks quite different than last time we were there. All right. I watched. I got
an absolute treat. I got to watch the pie man put that together while we were
pretty cool flying off.
I was, it was great to see your process
and how a video all comes together.
But yeah, that will be out here in a few months.
KV, are you excited we're back?
What was hosting duties like on Sunday nights?
Yeah, a little stressful.
You know, I had some good co-pilots with me.
It was definitely a strange experience
to be in the captain's chair.
I mean, also, I realized just how easy it is.
So I was like, just was like, this guy, come on.
Anybody could do this.
Putting together an agenda.
You know, I'm making sure you want to cover all your bases.
I got a few nasty emails from people saying,
you didn't talk about this.
I'm like, dude, we talked for two hours.
I think we covered like.
Welcome to the party.
Yeah.
But you know, it's good. Wait till we hear about all the things we missed in this three like, well, we'll go to the party. Yeah. But you know, it's,
wait, wait till we hear about all the things we missed
in this three hour show that we're trying to fill time.
Somebody got on me hard saying that I had mispronounced
Nick Dunlop's name.
Just did it as well.
No, Dunlop.
It's that's my month.
It's, that's like how Montana's say Dunlop.
He's gonna die on this.
It's not Dunlop.
It's Dunlop.
Like that's just how the Dunlop.
Dunlop, you're saying Dunlop.
You're saying Dunlop. I'm not. I'm done lap. Like that's just done lap. Done lap. You're saying done. You're saying done lap.
I'm not.
I'm truly not.
Great. It is a great.
It's just out my kind of like Rocky Mountain accent.
I'm not trying to say done lop.
Done lop.
I don't know if you're hearing the difference here,
but you're saying two different things.
We're excited to be back.
You had that. You had the Gary player pod that came out,
which is something very new. It seemed like people were very into yeah a lot of positive feedback on that
was really you know you and I had talked about that for months about
You know how would a fun thing that would be to do to just basically like educate people on the actual like crazy story of Gary player and
It's it's fascinating. I hope people who haven't gotten a chance to listen to it yet
give it a chance because it's really just fun storytelling.
It's not like a lot of the pods that we've done before.
We get to sort of mix in a little music with it
and some sound bites from Gary's crazy interviews
that he's done over the years and stuff.
And it's a master's footage even in there.
So it was a lot of fun.
Was there anything not to get too deep into your process,
but anything you would
do differently? Is that the first thing you've done for like a straight up audio
medium that has to be a different process than like just full on writing,
writing? Yeah. I mean,
it definitely is a little awkward in some like, you know,
a lot of the quotes came straight from Gary player's autobiography, right?
And so if like an audio book had existed,
which is always weird when someone writes their autobiography
like 50 years, like it was written in like 1964.
It's like written the year that the Beatles
were on the Ed Sullivan show.
A bunch of stuff's happened.
A lot of it changed.
Imagine how many miles he's flown since then.
I don't know.
I mean, I think we'd mixed in audio where we could
and that was a nice little pop in there,
but obviously it'd be great in the future
if you had just every quote that was in there
was just the audio of the quote, right?
And that's kind of how some of those podcasts
like Serial and This American Life do.
There's nobody's like reading quotes there,
but I don't know, I think it's,
I definitely think we picked the right subject
for the reasons of doing it.
And part of the reason we joked in the beginning was like, we've been doing stupid Gary player jokes for a decade
now. And that's in some ways like how part of our friendship sort of all came
together. And so you can trace it all the way back to Chambers Bay, which is a
sort of a seminal moment. It did really make me laugh. United talked about this,
whether we should like point this out or whether we should just kind of let it
hang there. But that the end of
the pod is like him winning the Masters in 1978 and he's shitting all over Robert Trent Jones.
In the beginning of the pod is him shitting on Robert Trent Jones Jr. So he's like for like 50 years.
He's had like this feud with the Jones family.
Which I, I respect that. I can get down with that.
One of his best takes.
Although, you know, according to Ludwig, Spyglass is fire.
It's sick.
It's sick.
That's what I hear.
Anyway, I think there's a not-zero chance
that Gary Player might come on the pot someday.
So, you know, it's.
That'd be incredible.
That'd be great.
I think he would be.
It would be fun.
Fascinating.
Who knows?
As I said, it's impossible to fact check a lot of Gary
Player's story.
I was going to say, if he claims to be the world's most
traveled man, like in human history,
no one has flown more miles. No one on the planet has flown more miles
than him. So a reader looked this up and it was like, that's gotta be bullshit.
There's astronauts that have traveled a lot more like miles than Gary
player, like back and forth from the space station. So there's no way that he can
claim that he's the most traveled human in history, much less than moon. Yeah.
Not to be spin in the moon. Who has not left the atmosphere?
I mean, who knows?
I mean, one of the things he said is he used to fly like,
you know, what did you do?
You were talking about, you met somebody,
Rome Elburn, who said this like, he would fly.
Oh, so the day we were at Rome Elburn East,
was actually the day I got this haircut,
which was the day.
Which is sick.
I like haircut.
Which is the day that we posted the Gary Player pod. And the first photo that many people may have seen if you took to social media was him day that we posted the Gary Player pod.
And the first photo that many people may have seen
if you took to social media was him
with that like super high flat top.
And I had like really long hair on top.
I was like, we could go there.
I was like, man, I could go with that.
And I was kind of chickened out and didn't stick to landing.
But the point is that photo was taken at Rome,
Melbourne East, which is where we happened to be that day that the pod went up.
And the guy that we were playing with,
I think it was Matt Malica that was telling us this.
He was like, oh, Gary Player won the,
he's like, I listened to the pod, it was awesome.
Did you know he won the Australian Open here
at Rome, Melbourne East?
And he's like, in order to get here,
he was playing the World Cup, which is sick,
on the list of things that are sick.
Used to be sick.
Well, right.
But in its totality is sick.
He was playing the World Cup in Paris the week before.
The week before.
Had to fly from Paris to New York.
I think it was Paris to New York.
Paris to New York.
Stop in Newfoundland or something on the line.
Might have been maybe.
He might have done his stop in the Azores or wherever it
was, where he's running up and down the Canary Islands.
He's running down the, he's running down the runway.
He flew Paris to New York, New York to LA, LA to Hawaii, Hawaii to Sydney,
Sydney to Melbourne, had to take a helicopter to the first T to make his
tee time. No practice rounds, went out and won the Australian over by seven.
Like, man, that's kind of, that's it.
Like that's the guy striking thing and doing that podcast was this like
reminding yourself, even though you've heard it before,
that Gary play were really, really freaking cool. So when you said in there,
like what did you say in there? Like,
like possibly the best golfer ever
from outside the United States?
It's like, whoa, yeah, I never thought about that.
You know, you say like, oh, besides Tommy.
Top 10 players of all time.
And people will constantly rank Gary Player near the bottom,
like 10, you know, 9 or whatever.
And they're like, no, no, Hogan was better.
Nelson was better.
Man, Gary Player went everywhere and kicked everyone's ass.
Like, and he did it in a really spectacular way. Yeah did it in an era when like the big dick swingers were out there,
like winning a lot of majors.
Now it's so much easier and these guys bitch about like, oh, I got to go to Japan or I got,
I'm not going to Australia ever.
He and his wife would load their five, six kids into the airport.
That's the other thing.
Like, ship them across the world. We need to get thing. You know, like ship them across the world.
We need to get Gary Player and TC just
chop it up on airports.
Totally.
He needs to go on the airport spot.
But he's going through all sorts of local,
the fixed base, the private terminals.
OK.
I don't know.
I don't think back in the day he was, though.
I'm sure he could educate us on airports in the 60s and the 70s.
Travel, air travel in the 60s and 70s with five kids across the world is like
truly mind-blowing. So, but check it out. Is there a fun pod?
I think we're gonna do great work. To everyone who said, oh please do more of that.
Yes, more is coming. Yeah. We, you know, I know you've talked about some of these
things. We haven't had a chance to talk with you about some
of the things that have come down.
Obviously, we had the Nick Dunlap victory at the AMX
and the subsequent decision this past week to turn pro.
Was it a no-brainer to turn pro after winning a PGA tour event?
It took a couple of days to do, but he did it.
I think so.
Right?
I mean, it has to be.
I feel like people were just making something up in terms to talk about of like,
hey, you might stay in college.
The NIL stuff is the only thing that gave a little bit
of pause.
And PJ Tour you, right?
You can kind of.
Can you make that make sense to me though,
like a college golfer?
What kind of NIL?
I think it's different on the women's side
than it would be on the men's.
I think the scales are different.
Like I think.
If you're at a university that has a lot of booster money and it's like really you got somebody who's a billionaire who's like really wants to see the
Just got freed up really wants to see them was paying him
Who really wants to see him winning in so like championship
Maybe haven't wanted an insult championship in a long time, you know
It says like hey, I'd love to sort of sign it to a $3 million
name and just like this, just to stay through the incident of delays.
Is it someone for I'm sure there's listeners out there that don't know
quite how the NIL actually works. Is it that simple?
Like so you have to go through the official like collective of it, right?
You can't just like hand him a check or whatever.
I'm just a little bit more regulated.
Yeah. So, you know, get him to to be more and more regulated. Exchange of services or something to it.
So, you know, get him to sign autographs,
get him to do appearances, get him to do something like that.
I mean, I'm sure that they could, you know,
fake it in some sense of like,
hey, show up for, you know, do a clinic
and give sign autographs and all of a sudden
we'll hand you your check.
But, you know, I don't think it was a,
it was a no-brainer in the sense of,
yeah, you gotta do this.
But I'm sure it was like overwhelming for him.
I was like, holy crap, I was not thinking about
doing this right now, and now I have really kind of,
it's the best possible thing to do.
I mean, you see him walking around here,
just a little bit ago, like, he's not exactly,
like, it's a lot different, I think,
to show up at an AM, and you're kind of anonymous, right?
No one's expecting you to, and now you're like,
everyone's looking at you, like, oh man, like, great,
great week, like, awesome.
You gotta go be a pro. You gotta go do interview
You gotta like do a whole bunch of different stuff like it's a it's your career now
I mean even if you're you know, obviously you're planning on that being the case
But it's different when it actually becomes it
I thought about going up to him just introduce myself be like you're me seeing a lot of me
So you might as well like see my face more often who finish second
Zadenhote yeah, I was a note Zadenhout better take him out to a really nice like a nice dinner
He you guys don't get to see it
But Zadenhout made an unbelievable birdie on 18 to put the pressure on him like he done like done lap came to the
18th tee thinking oh, I have a two-star Gleed
I'm gonna just blow it away right and by the time they got there ball
They're like oh shit like Christian made a birdie. Now we actually have to make par to win.
He used to cover swimming.
Were you calling him like swimming lops?
That's a great point.
Listen, I'm just telling you.
He is lopping the field.
It's the rare instance of where my Montana accent comes out.
Yeah, I mean, so,
Bisedenhood made first place money.
Yep. That's wild. Couldn't take it. There's all these people who were like, no, no, heizadenhood made first place money. Yep. Finished.
Yeah, that's wild.
Couldn't take it.
There's all these people who are like, no, no,
he really gets to get the money, right?
Like, there's no way that Nick has to like give.
No, he straight up had to give the money to,
you know, or not give the money,
but he straight up just didn't get the money.
Maybe he'll get a $1,000 is what he could accept.
Maybe they'll top him up in the PIP, which, by the way.
PIP points are coming out right here.
Come on.
Getting them getting shut even now.
A couple of guys I was talking to out there said, oh, yeah, I love this show. Yeah, nobody's coming coming out right here. Come on. Getting shut even though.
Some guys I was talking to out there said,
Oh yeah, I love this show.
Yeah, nobody's coming by.
Way be over.
I've definitely come to your party.
Yeah.
Now, send me the address, man.
I'd love to come through.
Speaking of tomorrow,
I'm waiting on the mid-morning,
you know, National Weather Service
office forecast.
But the update was currently mild and dry across the
region with some lingering mist. It doesn't feel mild. It's cold. It's cold. It just got
really cold. Today will be the last warm and dry day with it before an
impactful atmospheric river makes its way into our area tonight. Otherwise,
forecast remains on track with no updates anticipated. Afternoon forecast
will focus heavily on the time of arrival and intensity of rainfall
Wind in the potential for thunderstorms. You know what suck?
It's just like a massive rain out of what should be an awesome week. That's tough
Fortunately it is in the models. So I have a question for you guys
We did at the end of the pod which I'm sure you haven't listened to last Sunday yet
We Kyle and Bacon and I talked about what are the essentials for a buddy's trip? Like what games should you play? What venues? How important are venues?
How important is the company? And I'm curious having just come off, not really a
buddy's trip, but like trip with friends, what already feel like you've done these
enough times, the essentials for? I think a lot of people asked us like dude I
want to go to Bandon, I want to go to San Valle, but I can't afford it. I don't
want to go just play my local course want to go to San Valle, but I can't afford it, I want to go just play
with my local course.
What are some things that can make my buddy's trip
feel like the best possible use of my money or time?
Well, I think it probably starts with what kind of crew
are you going with?
Are you going with a competitive crew?
Or are you going with a drinking crew?
Are you going with beginner, is it everybody
around the same level?
How serious is everybody taking this trip? and so I would I like to do competitions and
gambling and you know shit talking and things like that but is everybody kind
of on that wavelength is question number one right and is everyone just after
checking off top 100 courses or do you want to find the off the radar stuff
that you know like the chances I love getting to places where you're like
dude I don't know if I'm ever gonna stand on this T-Box ever again.
I don't know if I'm ever gonna go to the Ballerina Peninsula.
I don't know if I'm ever gonna be in front of this microphone.
Yeah.
That's a man of faith.
So those are important questions, I think, to answer on that, right?
I mean, I've had a lot of different golf trips of, you know,
you go with four dudes that are not the craziest golfers ever, only want to play 18 holes a day and don't want to
compete and just want to, you know, see the sights more than the golf. And I've been with people
that want to play 49 holes a day or whatever possible maximum amount you can get in. So,
knowing your crew, I was thinking of the band and day where Randy fainted because we played 36 plus
13 on preserves. I would echo that. I think it's all about who you're with because we played 36 plus 13 on preserve. I would echo that.
I think it's all about who you're with,
because we've had trips.
A lot of this past tour sauce trip was like, holy shit,
we're playing Royal Melbourne West,
and they basically just told us to lock up,
and we're the only ones here, and this is truly surreal.
But then, Neil and Randy and I have gone on strap trips, which
are basically like Buddy's golf trips that, you know, we're playing Forest Park, which
I wouldn't say is an architectural wonder of the world. But, you know, you still have
like just as good of a time because you're with the right people. And, you know, if you
come up with a good game, you're chasing the mega bonus, something like that, it can
be funny either way. So not a lot of insight, kind of just a lot of hot air
coming from me, but I think it's a true pick your adventure.
That sounds corny, but it's accurate.
Like, if you, I don't know, I've had rounds
at really, really nice courses with people
I've not enjoyed playing with,
and I don't remember those days very fondly,
whereas, I don't know, some days at, like,
Cullen was not the most pristine golf course I've ever played
but it was with these dudes and on a really fun adventure trip and I remember
that round very very vivid. That was gonna be my take was hey if you're going
to let's say you're going to Scotland or you're going to Ireland like don't buy
off more than you can do. Don't be a hero. Because you're gonna spend more time getting between places than you are having fun in pubs and you know hanging out and stuff.
Unless you're part of the youth
If you're a young person you could do it you should do it once but then looking back on some of the trips
We've all taken together. I'm like oh we would die if you don't do more than two regions of Scotland the same trip
But I think the other thing is yeah dig a level deeper like don't just go play top 100 or bucket list big name courses
like even if shit if you're coming to the Monterey Peninsula
And you're playing pebble and you're playing Cyprus and you're playing MPCC make sure you go play Pacific Grove and
You know bayonet or black horse or because it'll make you appreciate
Those other court like those top level courses that much more like when you go to the to
UK and you play open rota courses part of the
like part of what makes you realize what setting those open rota courses apart is
playing the non open rota courses and you can kind of compare and contrast I
think to like what one thing that I've found with my friends we've done bandin
twice and I think the the element really is like the people you're with right
like I think you have to have a team competition interwoven with an individual
competition. That way, like someone's sucking. I would say a week long, like a
week long competition is so much fun. Yeah, it's like a Ryder Cup style thing
that like you can have an individual trophy. And so that way, if somebody really
wants to like post a score every time, they're great. But if somebody's sucking,
like there are formats where you can yeah You can basically say like okay
We're gonna play like well my friends and I play a lot a point for the low and the point for total
So like yeah, if you if one guy has a three and one guy has a seven like you might still be in the hole with two
Fives on the other side. So like it's I think that's an element that keeps the shittier handy high hanging at players
Involved and also like I've had a golf trip in Frederick, Maryland.
That's not anybody's destination to play.
We had an absolute time.
It came down to the last hole of the whole last deal.
And it was so freaking tense.
And it was like, this is the stupidest thing ever.
But it's like it matters to us because like we've been doing this for 10 years
and we've had these teams for 10 years.
Like you don't have to go to Scotland or Ireland or whatever
to have a really good buddies golf trip.
You can go play role Melbourne in Illinois. Great point. We're in St. Andrews.
We don't have a royal decree in Illinois. I have to look into that. We gotta seek that out. Also,
don't be afraid to play Scotch Forrestons or Altschott in the afternoon. Formats is a huge,
I think. It takes off some of the grind of it so you're not, you know, you get in a field.
And then there's some people who just do not
want to play alternate shot because they're like,
oh, I got to have a score from Bannon or whatever.
And you're not coming on my trip.
But also, like, you should do different.
So I wouldn't take Randy to Australia the first time.
Well, Bacon was saying, in his golf trips,
the competition ends, and then there's one more day
where guys can play ultimate shot
or guys can face off each other.
They're on the same team, but they have this running belt that they're passing back and
forth, who's the best.
And that way, it's removed from the actual competition.
I also, sorry, real quick.
You can see this over KBB's shoulder.
There's an amateur that's been absolutely grinding on the range.
Oh, the towel drill.
So Stephen Jäger's been doing the towel drill under his arm. This amateur's been grinding. He's been absolutely grinding on the range. Oh, the towel. He's so Steven Yeager's been doing the towel drill under his arms.
This is him has been grinding. He's been. He's always been.
He's a but Steven Yeager officially an influencer because he is the now this
am has gone to the you know what I should just happen right next to him.
He said I can't just watch this unfold. You know, I was a big.
All right. You know, I was a big towel drill guy?
Massive towel drill guy? DA Points.
Oh yeah.
Who won here.
So maybe look at Steven Yeager this week.
That's interesting.
Also the last thing I'd say about the buddy strip, Cody,
I agree fully.
I think it should be 54 holes with music on the range.
That's the other thing I would say.
That is key to any format.
And you can wear shorts.
I was gonna say we had a bit of the game
Into the mic do as I do you know just just is am I good speak up? Yeah deliver right are you cold?
You're so cold
Nuggy
You could see it over still water cove
I went to use the Port of John down there walk
Having the purpose a place to go walking down the range is good like no no I'm on the way the bathroom guys like I'm not just lingering
I'm doing stuff. I'm doing stuff right now. Don't worry about me look like I'm going someplace
I belong you can see the fog rolling in it's gonna be epic
It's always epic until it gets here, and that's just great. That's just cold. Yeah. And it's starting to get very cold.
I was going to call out this am out here.
Was one hitting it great?
Yeah.
He saw the towel drill, got the towel under the arm.
So that's a good one.
That's it when you're hitting balls and just kind of like,
oh.
Max and Aaron Rodgers were down.
Just vibes were off the charts with that's
a comfy pairing for those two.
But the nuggie I have is the range ball attendance down the way.
We're like, yeah, that's Aaron Rodgers.
He's playing for the Jets now.
Packers don't miss him.
Jordan Love just replaced him.
Like they're just kind of talking some,
talking a little trash.
Really?
Bring him on the ball, though.
Say it to his face.
30 feet
away so I thought that was good stuff like yeah actors don't even need him
anymore how quickly they forget KVV right quickly and then down at this this end
of the range on the left side we had like the easy power alley you had wind
and bark next to Fitzpatrick I can't get over how well Fitzpatrick moves it I
mean swings out of his shoes at it.
He doesn't look like easy power.
But Windham next to him really kinda sets the,
it gives you a sense of like,
Windham's hitting like 183 and it looks like he's half swinging.
Windham's swinging in person is really nice to watch.
I'm sitting there watching him like, okay, with.
That's like, that's how you're supposed to do it.
It looks really different.
It looks different.
It's a really nice swing
So those are my three nuggies and I'm sticking to them. I kind of like the handheld mic
It's easy
You know I'm trying to talk into it
A lot of training aids on the thing is someone who just wrote about like their addiction to training aids
And I was like you're looking you're trying to offload some people? Like, hey, you look, what this,
no, like, obviously, like everyone has sticks.
Cause that's a, but a lot of like, you know,
pro senders, a lot of balls, a lot of things where you get,
you know, swing under this plane and stuff.
I was, you know, that's a little surprised to see as much as
there, there, AMS are all, pros are all as much of psychos
as we are. They're always trying to search
That was my favorite part of the right harm the Brian Harmon interviewers
Yeah, man
I'm just most of my days just sit on Instagram watching golf stuff. I order everything
I buy them all anything. I see I just I buy them
You want the open last year?
What am I supposed to do? It's probably the perfect concoction of all those training it might be
He said the reason one I'm on the open
is because he pulled out a putting mirror that he had
in his forever.
And he was like, ah, you know what?
I'll just try this putting mirror.
Do you have that one?
I do not.
Do you have any putting mirrors?
I have a putting mirror.
I have a putting mirror.
I have a putting mirror.
I don't have the one that's like he was learning how
to hit baby drawers with his putter.
And that's what I'm saying.
I also got my mom a putting mirror for Christmas.
She loved it.
Did she?
Really?
Yeah.
Where I see fire over the golf course.
Yeah, she's getting really into golf. She golf playing more golf than I am you kicking her ass
Yeah, we had an awesome match when Tron I were home in the fall. It was
My mom said I think she's at 34 handicapped or 37 handicapped trending them. So how many would Rahm have to give her?
two pops on every
Play from the red team I have to give her. She was getting two pops on every hole. There's too many. And then I got a lot. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not giving you 42 shots.
You're playing from the red team?
And then she had three pops on three holes.
It was awesome.
We ended up, the match, the handicap system works.
It was like a one up win on 18.
That's great.
Some rom quotes came out today.
Behind the brand of Legion 13, and it started with,
I wanted to go down the.
Stop your right there. I wanted to go down the warrior spirit mythology side for my
team's name. The term loyalty is very important to me. Totally. I think it
embodies the warrior spirit through its decisiveness and ready for battle
mindset. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, maybe part of his team name is
because he X. He's the captain plus three other guys says that's why he chose
13 notoriously lucky number
He'll switch approves. That's true going well for her
Good luck trolling at this point with the loyalty thing you have to be just just yeah, I just I can't wrap my head
No, who cares none of it matters. I guess but like I just can't wrap my head, no, who cares? None of it matters, I guess, but like,
I just can't wrap my head around like the Baltimore Orioles
three days before their season starts.
But like, yeah, I don't know.
We don't know who's gonna play second base.
I don't know, we'll figure it out.
Why is everybody asking?
But like, but also like nobody's asking.
Like nobody actually also like cares,
but the rom thing is changes everything,
but like he's on a team and nobody knows who's on his team.
I don't know.
Look at the shot behind us now with this. The Marine layer has officially arrived.
Fog is coming in.
Rolling in the deep.
We're asking a lot of these cameras today to deal with light changes.
A lot of it did more Adele reference.
It's doing a great shot.
But it had a lot of challenges coming in behind us.
What was your best San Francisco memory? great show that I thought, but it had a lot of challenges coming in behind us. But what was it?
What's your best San Francisco memory?
You lived here for what?
Three years?
Five years.
Well, I live in San Francisco.
Um, one thing that always sticks out to me when I look back at pictures is you're
wearing the same thing in every picture.
It's a lot of long sleeves.
Yeah.
That's why we're all in the same vest.
Yeah.
So it starts to be, uh, there can be a little bit of a groundhog day to that
Best memory though, I would say
Riding my bike around the city. I just used to love to make an excuse to go ride my bike through Golden Gate Park
That's I lived up by the park ride out to Ocean Beach take it across the bridge
My favorite thing about San Francisco is how quickly you can get out of the city to some of the best coastline in the world
You know north of Golden Gate Bridge
Not necessarily necessarily still water cove, but you know in this in the general vicinity
So yeah, I would say that and I think it's the best public golf town in the United States
Were you playing much golf back then?
I played a lot at Harding Park.
You can get a city car back when I was there.
It was like $50.
If you were a city resident.
And they don't, they honestly, pace of play out there
was really good.
They didn't stack up tee times too bad.
It was a good course to walk.
And then you always have Presidio.
They had the best deal in town.
The super twilight rate, you would pay like $30.
After, I think it was $2.30 or $3.00,
which was great in the summer, you could maybe get $18.00 in,
but the fog would roll in like this,
coming down the 17th and 18th holes.
So you basically had to have some great face awareness
of like, I think that went right.
You had no idea where the golf ball went.
Felt down the middle.
But it was Super Twilight was $30.00. You had no idea where the golf ball went. Felt down the middle. But it was super twilight.
It was $30.
You got a cart and two beers.
And you go play as many as you can at Presidio.
So you're looking at a super twilight after this podcast.
Yeah, for real.
Sharp Park?
Can we play a Sharp?
I played at Sharp Park twice.
Very scruffy.
Some fun holes.
Some not so good holes.
But you know, cool story.
A bit of a lost McKenzie, the good doctor,
put his hands on that place apparently.
Only McKenzie can play for 50 bucks
whatever in the world.
That's, I'm kind of reeling on that.
Best public golf city in the country.
Yeah, just I think because.
The city has to, there's gotta be some qualifiers on city.
Big city.
Yeah, like big urban area, just I would say based on price, based on proximity.
So the fact, and now that they've redone the Golden Gate
Park, Park 3, that was a goat track when I was in town.
I believe it once in Super Bowl.
So I'm very jealous of that for San Francisco residents.
But just in New York for me now,
it's an all day affair to go play golf. Like there is good public golf on the outskirts of New York City. I'd call
it Marine Park I think is a good probably the best muni if you want to
call it that or public course, but it's still like I live I think eight or nine
miles away and it probably takes 45 minutes to get there, right? You got to
go like Belt Parkway or you're just gonna kind of battle traffic on Flatbush Avenue. Once you're there it's good,
but it just, it was a lot easier to go from like work downtown and say like,
yo let's go, let's go to the Presidio and you can be there in you know 20 minutes
or whatever. You know what, Citi has sneaky like lots of good public golf is
Indianapolis. I spent a lot of time in Indianapolis for various like stories
like whether it's you know combine stuff or whatever and
There's always like a pretty good golf course like that's you know
You can roll up pay 40 bucks and shout out to
Indiana for having a pretty and it's Indianapolis is like a big
Metro city and so there's just like a lot of land there. You can fit in golf courses there. I was surprised to hear
That the a large population of our team here has not played Pebble Beach before.
I mean Pebble, you've been a bunch of times.
Walk all these holes twice.
Probably my eighth or tenth time here.
Losers could remedy that at some point.
Get me a spot at Pebble.
Put in a request.
Get a free one.
I don't know if that...
Send me an email.
Yeah, please. Get in line. I love to come by the line. Put in a request. Get a free one. I don't know if that... Send me an email.
Yeah, sure.
Please.
Get in line.
I'd love to come by the line.
I'd love to come by the line.
Maybe do you need a force of them?
I mean, you know, I'm a good player.
No, I have not played it.
Do you have the urge to play it?
There's some shots out there I'd love to hit.
Yeah, I think I would.
I definitely have the urge to play it.
But I remember...
You know, they say it's public.
And sometimes I'm like, is it accessible?
That's probably another conversation.
I think there's other courses in this area
that I would jump at the chance to play more, maybe.
But like, I would love to hit the shot on seven.
I would love to play number six.
I've always thought that was a really interesting golf hole.
Sounds like Tito's takes.
Yeah, of course.
Nothing, you know, not obvious.
I told my daughter that when she turns 18,
that I would bring her here to play
since we got to be here for the Women's US Open.
So I'm going to save up now, starting out that she's.
Yeah.
When I came here in 2011, I think I was 24, 25
on a golf trip with my dad.
And it was like, I was like, yeah, can we,
we were playing a bunch of places.
I was like, can we play pebble?
He's like, yeah, we might be able to.
And he, he, it's been a tremendous provider for me
along the way, but he hit me with that you can pay for it.
So if you really want to play pebble,
like you can, you can pay for it.
And I was like, OK, $495.
I paid it.
I kept that receipt in my wallet for like four years
after that. I saved up, I was like,
that was a ton of money to me back then.
Did you ever pull it out on someone?
Did you ever see that ear-pick bubble?
Are you guys golfers?
Hold on, I guess something I want to see.
Well, I dreamed of that as a kid.
I had this old piece of, this piece of pottery or clay
that I made in like whatever, fourth grade, seventh grade,
I don't know what, in some class of I made like in clay pottery
and made like an image of the 18th whole up hell beach.
And it's like still in my room as a kid. Like that was like the place I always
wanted to play the most like since then it's, it's no,
it's not number one on my list or the best place I've played, but it was,
I don't know. What is this important context that this would have helped in
our conversation the other night. What did your dad do on number one?
He he had a big draw that he was playing back then and he kind of aimed right for that to try to draw it in
And block pushed it into the parking lot
There's a tough start to the deer
I kind of want to go a little bit. We don't have to go blow by blow. What did he do on like six?
I don't remember this go blow by blow. What did he do on like six? I don't remember. This was 12 years ago. My favorite thing about his dad is that he hit his nine iron
one time, like 165.
So now it's nine iron.
It goes 165.
No, it's a nine iron.
I think a muscle at nine.
I can hit my six.
I know he's listening too.
I try to hit him like, I want one more.
There, maybe two more.
How did he do as a caddy?
Oh, he's great. We had such an awesome time. It was, yeah, I told the hit him like, I want one more there, maybe two more. How did he do as a caddy? I was great.
We had such an awesome time.
It was, yeah, I told the story last year,
but it was about a month after my grandfather passed away.
And it was just my main takeaway from when that happened
was reflecting on his dad's life was like,
I need to do more things with my dad.
And it was really easy momentum off that to like, all right,
we're doing this.
And I walked away from that one.
I was like, OK, we need to book an old course trip.
And we haven't done that yet.
And I need to get on that, because it's just
kind of one of those things that should just
go for these things while you have the opportunities to do
them.
And it was another fun special memory
that Pebble Beach's response.
I got an awesome email this week from a listener who basically
said, because of Toursauce at Bandin,
he was like, did the same thing, like,
dad, we need to go play banding.
His dad was like, inhaling health
and like, needed a blood transfusion before.
But they went and did banding and he was like,
you know, for that memory, like,
I thank you guys forever for that.
Cause that gave me just a nudge to go and do it.
And you don't get those like opportunities back, right?
You just gotta freaking do it.
And that's like, I think about this a lot of like,
dude, why have I decided to dedicate an enormous part of my life
to this like very silly game, right?
Like there has to be something beyond the competition.
It has to be something beyond, you know, playing,
I don't know, playing top 100 courses or being out there,
but like there's something weirdly spiritual about golf.
And I haven't like-
It's being able to wear street wear, man.
You know, that's what it's about for me.
For some people, for some people, sure.
Of course, you just don't want to get yelled at.
Yeah.
But you ever think about that?
I'm like, oh, I'd love to retire someday
and play five times a week.
And it's like, you think about that.
Like really, you just want to hit a ball around a field
for like, like that's what you want to do with your life.
And it's like, man, that is it. I don't know. But there's something
spiritual about golf, man.
I'm sitting in this chair right now instead of like grinding on some Ravens,
you know, wrap up story or 49ers story. Like eventually I just decided like,
I've had, I've said enough about football. Like I got more to say about golf and
I want to go and did the Ravens miss their window. I call them probably.
Was this it? Yeah.
Think this was it for the Ravens? Well, look, I think it's just so hard to get back to that moment that you think
like it's gonna, oh, we'll do it again next year. No good timing. We got a
Ball Noir coming in. Ball Noir. Come on in here. Take my seat. Take, you got five minutes.
Corey Lumberg dropping through the coach. He just wants to celebrate Kyle. How are you buddy?
He says thank you for bringing it believing in block in Brock and in Kyle
We'll wait until if it doesn't they don't get it done that there's gonna be a lot of people throwing daggers in it
All right, see you buddy
Where were we Ravens Ravens, you know, we're talking about the meaning of life and also the Ravens window
I believe I think some way yeah, exactly It dovetails with like what we're talking about like you got to do the things that you want to do because the opportunities might not come around again
Like you see so many NFL teams like oh, you know, we'll get them next year
They never make it back no that opportunity
So if like if you have a window to do something you better friggin get it done
What a circle that is to connect those two topics was impressive
That is impressive five minutes remaining here in the show anything else we want to make sure we get to before we go?
You guys got a favorite from, uh, well, I'm kind of
ordering out here on the range.
I think I want to, I got to rethink about it.
Like coming into this week, I was very much, like, I think
this would be perfect spot for Tommy to get his first PGA
tour win and think it's going to happen.
But I got to like recalibrate for like, who's like a mutter?
Like, mutter throws weird stuff into it that happens like the Derek Ernst year. I'm thinking of it
at a quail hollow. Again, I was around for that life. You guys don't know anything about that life.
Yeah, there was a different, different era. Yeah. Where I've been. Can Hedeki win?
It's right behind you. I don't think so. I mean, I haven't heard anything from a deck. I totally had forgotten about him until I saw him. Saw him today.
But I don't know. I gotta read. It could be a total, total crap shoot out there if
the weather is going to be as bad as they say. Guys are getting a lot of work in
today. Like guys going on playing 18 holes. Could be an outbreak of scurliosis
tomorrow. A lot of sitting around a lot of
people with time to come, come chat with us tomorrow. We're going to be live
again tomorrow from 8am to 11am here at Pacific time, which is 11am to 2pm
Eastern time. Or you can of course listen on the podcast feed as well.
The fog's rolling in heavier and heavier. You know what they say about the Monterey Peninsula.
You don't like the weather.
Just wait five days.
Microwave five days.
Microwave climate.
Yeah.
Please, we might be looking for that.
It's not like a macro climate.
It might be coming in.
What are we going to do this afternoon?
Should we try to get up to the grove?
We played the hay yesterday, which was great.
What video on that?
We have not mentioned that yet.
Yeah, we'll have another video later in the week here,
coming out about the Peter Haye,
the part three course designed by the cat and Bo Welling.
That was awesome.
I had a really fun time out there.
Pacific Grove could be fun.
Really fun.
Fun options afternoon.
Will you introduce me to Hedeky's translator?
He seems like the main...
I don't know that I know him.
I'm just a big fan of his work.
He's a huge fan.
Talk to Smarton.
He can hook you up with him. Big shot Bob Turner. I think he could hook you up interpreter. I must a translator is different than an interpreter
Yeah, that's that's a good note. Yeah. Yeah, it's a
Forget that mostly interpreters
Any other favorites you guys have for this week in case people don't turn into tomorrow
I'm trying to think who the muddy boys are. That's a good...
Nobody's talking about Cantley.
He's a threat to win.
The cold weather is back though. It doesn't feel like the best.
Xander kind of feels like a mutter.
Uh, the Poa would say this.
Scott Scheffler feels like a mutter.
Warikawa seems like a kind of a sexy pick right now.
I'm not I don't know if I'm feeling it on these green.
Honestly, maybe the Lynx master.
Yeah, can I just say nobody's going to.
I used to love doing this and kind of betting and whatnot
is like drafting off a guy that had a great week,
but like a tough final day coming back the next week.
Steven Yeager, the Kyle Stanley models.
Yeah, or the Martin Kimer.
That was the one that hit huge at the players.
Yeager's played well here before.
Yeah, I feel like someone in that class and value
would be interested. We know he's doing the towel drill.
The towel drill is the influence.
He's gonna be connected. He's getting the left side through.
Everybody else is doing the towel drill now.
Something we need to ask tomorrow is...
They connected.
That guy was also like,
wait, am I in camera?
He was asking somebody over there. Oh, yes. That guy was also like wait mine camera
Yes, we broke it all down for you my guy
You want to see replays of his swing is that why kind of barstool towel one thing I might do
After this our guy golden said there's there's also some ams just really grinding on the machine like the swing robot Maybe we look going to say I would like to try that myself.
Mr. Roboto.
Maybe we look into that.
One thing we need to ask is if the strategy changes at all for guys for a no-cut event
versus a cut event.
We can dive into that tomorrow and I believe that we will do that.
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