No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 788: LIVE Wednesday from the Pebble Beach Pro-Am

Episode Date: January 31, 2024

We're back and live from the range again at the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am, chatting with Lucas Glover, Maverick McNealy, tournament director Steve John, Sahith Theegala, and Justin Thomas. The Beluga also gives us big board for the entire tournament, we make some picks, react to the Tour investment announcement, player quotes, and a ton more. Thanks a ton to AT&T for having us out to do a show from the range, it was an absolute blast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Music Be the right club, be the right club today. Music I mean that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Music Expect anything different? Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up Live show brought to you by our

friends at AT&T here live at the range at the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro Am. I'm Sully here. Mr. Pyman is here. Hello, Pyman. Good morning, guys. I have so many freaking layers on this morning. It's getting colder. It's getting cold. The weather's coming in atmospheric river coming in today. TC. I know

we're going to get to that. Happy to be with you guys. TC's got so many models, weather models cooking over here just off screen. He's got the mitts ready. Hello TC. Hello gentlemen. Excited to be with you. Mr. Icarito is here. AKA Neil McShea. We're going to be getting to the Icarito big board here for the entire tournament. Neil has ranked the players 80 through 1 in the field. Maybe 81. Possibly 81.

He's like, how many players in the field? 80. Let's drag to see if you guys know the field. The blue is big board. We'll be reviewing that shortly. Fired up to be on the hot corner today. It's kind of a Jolinardi bracketology. That's more of a.

Todd, Todd, Todd, Todd. This guy projects really well. Great agility. We're going to be talking mutters. We got some trivia. We got some guests rolling through. Maybe some surprise guests. We don't even know who our first guest is,

but we are going to be surprised with that somewhere around 9 AM Pacific time, I believe. But we give a shout out to our friends at AT&T. Connecting changes everything. Today, being connected is essential. Here on the range, being able to broadcast this live is pretty essential. Connectivity is truly the bridge to possibility,

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After all, connecting people is what AT&T does best, and each connection leads to greater possibility. Connecting changes everything AT&T. One other quick note. We are running a scavenger hunt this week. I placed a no-laying-up sticker out on the Pebble Beach golf course in an undefined or unmarked location. If you see that picture out there

and we will flash it up on screen here later in the show and I will tweet it out as well. There is a signed Jordan Speed staff bag from the Pebble Beach Pro Am up for grabs. Second place we're gonna sign Pin Flag. Third place are fired. So go look for that sticker. Did you look to DJ when you said that?

That was fun. And yeah, you got to tweet a picture outstanding next to the sticker. And the first person to do that gets the staff bag. So sanctioned ambush marketing sanctioned ambush marketing. Come all the way around. Total full full circle moment. Of a Treasure Island situation out there too. Pretty cool. All sorts of tech layoffs this week and you'll see those out here firing people on air. I hate that man. Well it was a Glenn Geary. It was a threat. He didn't fire anybody tech

people. You know you don't have that kind of authority. Little news of the day. This is going to probably permeate through a lot of the show this week but we figured we'd start right off the top of this. Announcement that came out this morning the PGA Tour in partnership with strategic sports group SSG. Today announced the launch of PGA Tour Enterprises, a new commercial venture under the PGA Tours control. And in a first of its kind program, nearly 200 PGA Tour members will have the opportunity to become equity holders in this new company.

PGA Tour Enterprises is also considering participation by future PGA Tour players that would allow them to benefit from the business's commercial growth. And under this program, players would collectively access over $1.5 billion in equity in PGA Tour enterprises. And these grants, which vest over time, will be based on career accomplishments, recent achievements, future participation in services, and PGA Tour member status. And grants are only available to qualified PGA tour players. I put that in bold there at the bottom

because I think that is going to be a point of conversation. What is the criteria? No, what is a qualified PGA tour player, right? Like what, who kept their membership, who resigned their membership? What happens to the guys that resigned their membership till they get a bypass straight back to the tour? I think is a huge question that I've not heard

a lot of people talking about, but what's the reaction to the to the announcement this morning? I think maybe first let's do a layman explanation of like what does all that mean? That's very press release, right? And I think I was setting you up to do that, but I can do it please. I would say the things that stuck out to me is it values a tour at 12 billion, which is finally a number that has been put on the on the tour on the on the league if you want to say that a number of billions a number of Billions a lot of billions well no nine billion ten billion has been tossed no right, but we have a number saying 12 12

Billion The other thing that sticks out to me are the four classes of equity as I understand them. There's the current dogs Current current, you know thoroughbreds, So the dudes, there's the current members, which we could call the mules, the legends. So the guys that made the tour, what it is. And then future players. I'm curious how long that class lasts of, of echo. Is there a time limit on future players? You know, do the guys in 10 years have to buy in? Like how does all that work? So a lot of unanswered questions, but those were the first two things that stuck out to me.

Do you think the tour is going to brand the different classes of equity? Probably. Kind of like the A on X5 and the low Cinco and all of those things. Maybe they'll do an ETF. Velocity global is coming in, I'm sure. Equity is only worth something if it's liquid, right? If you can trade it.

Is there a marketplace? Is somebody going to try to consolidate more equity? Like, is Grayson Murray going to sell his equity to Mac Hootcher? What's the exit for the PGA Tour? We'll get back to what I think all this kind of means. So basically, this is what we've been talking about for the last, what?

I mean, this specifically the last six months, at least really since June 6th. for the last, what, I mean, this specifically the last 15 years, I think six months, at least really since like June 6th. This is kind of the, the culmination of, Hey, we are going to start a new company that sits on top of the knot for profit company that allows outside investors to come in. I think what it's not is quote, the Saudi deal that, that has not happened yet. I saw a lot of, yeah, there was a lot, I think coming out like the last couple of days about like all the Saudi deals being announced this week. This is not it. I feel like it's feels like step. What would you say step three of, you know, seven

that were that we're on right now? Phil's 32 to 37 might be some pretty pretty drastic changes. I think also, I mean, it's something that was laid out by Andy Gardner with the PGR. Do you want to go straight to that? In that scenario as well, the players got a heck of a lot more equity than the. Again, going back to how this could have been prevented, back in 2021, I believe it was, Andy Gardner

created the Premier Golf League, which laid out a plan to realize $10 billion in equity in the professional golf world that included all players, that included collaboration with the PGA Tour. That was viewed to be not feasible by Allen and Co. Despite them not actually reviewing the actual real proposal, nothing was ever sent to them. The Allen and Co. CEOs in the field this week.

Yeah, and so sure enough. Maybe we can get him on the show today. If you want to come sit on the hot corner, I'd be happy to give him my chair. So sure enough, today it's announced $12 billion yet with half the players missing. It's fair to say half the valuable players in golf missing from this deal as it stands now. So I feel like this could have all been avoided with a couple meetings back in 2021. But we've been saying that for quite some time now.

And this to see that kind of realize today is probably I know the last couple years have probably been really frustrating for Andy Gardner, but today has got to just be like, guys, I feel like I kind of propose this to you. No huge surprises in the announcement. It's pretty much what everybody's been talking about the last couple of months. And then I assume they'll bring the Saudis in through the side door to purchase equity from the SSG guys. Correct? That's what I understand it to be, right? There's a purchase of, I guess, you know, is it 25% of SSG that they would be selling

around 49% of their stake to the Saudis, to the PIF, as, yeah, a way potentially of sidestepping the regulatory part of this, yet at the same time, everyone knows that that is just that, right? So how do you actually sidestep it? Does that end up with, you know, kind of of again, what we've been talking about where is there a PGA tour or whatever this new venture looks like section of the year where the PGA tour plays say January to July, January to August, and then team golf, which I would guess is

probably not going to be branded as live golf, but team golf series that is more PIF focused, that happens in the next part of the year. Does that help you avoid anti competitive concerns? That would be my guess as to how this all plays out as of now, because I think it's still kind of, if I had regrets about any reaction to June 6th, it was like assuming that this thing was going to go through. I think we all kind of thought with your own CNBC,

this thing is like a done deal, which having all the- The host of the CNBC show also in the field this week. Having only gone through this for the first time, that is, oh, a bag just blew over here on the rage with a huge wind gust. But you know- I think it's going to get a lot worse before they get better. I could cover both of these topics.

It is, I still want to hold a wait and see thing. We can speculate on a lot of what's going to happen here, but you know, it's still definitely a wait and see on the regulatory front. I've not, I don't feel great that that is like done and dusted. I think one thing that's interesting on that front, just, you know, TCN, you got all kinds of sources everywhere. I don't know what the, I don't know what the timeline looks like on the DOJ approval. I can't imagine that's a, uh, Hey man, we got nothing going on. We can knock that out this afternoon. If you guys got all your paperwork dialed,

gotta imagine that takes a while, which I don't know if that means like, like I don't know how quickly things come back together. Right. So does that mean rom and hat and then all these guys are now playing live for like an extra year while that's getting sorted out? Does it like, I don't know. A lot more questions than answers on that front. Neil, I would be stunned if this was, I don't think there's any world that this could be arranged by 2025, I think 2026 at the earliest now, at this point. So sick. Other takeaways. I think, uh, you know what, like this $12 billion valuation,

the narrative is that these guys, Steve Cohen, Arthur Blank, the Fenway guys, your boy Mark on Atenacio, all those guys. Big deal getting the Brewer Stadium pushed through, you know. Also Cody, what are your Red Sox going to do? You know, they're not spending money in free agency, but they're throwing all kinds of money around at pro golf leagues. I just, that's interesting. We got the producer cam here today.

So all these guys evidently think that there's, golf is undervalued, right? Why is golf undervalued? Is that because the current product is relatively poor? Is that because leadership has done an extremely poor job? Like, all right, cool. How are we gonna fix those things?

What's the plan? Is there gonna be a change in leadership at the top? Jay looked extremely haggard in that Instagram post that the tour put out this morning. Like he's aged 20 years in the last two. What's got TC on his ass the whole time? I could definitely see why. He's following around Potta Viedra, the bullhorn.

So a question here. That's the torch, Jay. How should the golf fan feel about this? I think with the same apathy, we've kind of felt about all this stuff. Maybe this is a path forward, but until someone starts prioritizing and laying out, there's nothing about fans anywhere in that press release.

This is, again, still all about the players. Until the product and the competitive product, until that changes, until the television product changes, I have no excitement towards anything, until that becomes clear. Colin Morcau talked about that. We'll get to there. Talked about that a little bit in his presser. I think to some guys that's starting to get through of like, Hey, the only way this thing becomes worth this is if more people are watching

it and the only way more people are going to watch it is one, if we all get back together and start playing and two, the television product becomes more entertaining. Like that's incredibly simplified, but that is the only way this is this valuable. I feel like it's been really interesting to see the players tone kind of shift on that. I mean, JT is the example. We always would point that as like, oh, the product needs to improve the product, the product, the product, which I think, you know, as you like to point out was like, are you just talking about like purses? Cause like that's not the product. It does seem like a lot of the players have had the light kind of go off. I feel like Rory's

talked about it a lot. More Cowboys press conference yesterday was super interesting. He talked about a lot of TV stuff, shown more golf shots. A lot of that we'll get into. Max has said a lot of the same stuff. I think publicly, I think what's going to be really interesting and what I think some of these guys probably need to be pressed on. I mean, I know there's a, the perfect scenario would be the, you know, everything gets way more valuable because the product gets so much better

and all boats rise and everybody makes more money and everybody enjoys the product more to your point is like, okay, well, what's like stopping that from happening? How much of that was the structure of the PGA tour being this 501 C six membership organization that needs to take care of everybody and can't do guaranteed contracts. Which is still in place by the Underneath this PGA enterprises. So that's where I'm kind of like man. What like What is a three billion dollar infusion do is still pretty Unclear to me on how you make televised golf more much better or hardcamps people are just they're crying in the streets

Neil about like I just I can't wait to watch the golf this week Maybe that happens, but God it feels it's I don't know. I'm just a little dubious. Short term, it, maybe it, it plugs holes with that cash infusion, but the, you know, the people that are investing in this, I don't think they like to invest in businesses that they don't have a return of some kind. So Steve Cohen seems like a relatively serious individual. Yeah. This, this is not like a PIF. No, no, no. It's just like this money or fire thing. So it's still a pitchers. It's still an ad based business.

It's still a, you know, a TV rights business. So until that, you know, I don't know how you like move away from that long term. If some if these investors are looking for a return, that's what it. Yeah, there must be a couple or global. Is there just a folder somewhere with full of ideas that like none of us are thinking about? Yeah, we're jet lag, of course we're jet lag Morning, how we doing? We've got KVV out on the range doing his doing a little work sources. Working some sources. So we'll bring him in a little bit.

One other thing is these guys, like, so part of the undervalued thing as well is global tour. That was Andy Gardner's thing. That's been Rory's thing. That's been, you know, certain sponsors want to sponsor. Like they're not even getting in the boat because they want the whole global budget to you know go against this PGA tours primarily a North American product. So I think on that front There's a there's gonna be a lot of unhappy guys if they turn this into a global thing Which hey, maybe they're conditioning the next wave of PGA tour players to say hey, you're gonna have to play globally, you know Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You know, I kind of am moving with the winds of smart people that are that are talking through all this and the guys that run data golf or tweeting a lot about, you know, call Porter throughout a tweet of what would pro golf look like if you guys could draw it up from scratch now and they made a good point of like, you know, a global tour and I've been kind of I've been a proponent for the global tour is like, if they global tour of Maybach economic sense It probably would have happened by now dude. It's like yeah, good point like that's what I keep coming back to is like what it

What's this like magic bullet that is just gonna take it from here to here? I think there's unrealized global value like the sure best golf I think in the world is probably played in the British Isles like there should be more golf professional golf played it at you know In those locations. That's a huge market there and well You have to create a spectacle if you want to take the F1 example It can't be like it the global thing earlier was like we're gonna go do an Asia swing I think it needs to be like an Asian event. Yeah, like we're going we're an Australian event We're going the whole circus is going, you know, and then there's maybe some supplementary stuff

Oh, there's a tournament the week before, the week after, and then, you know, it comes back to North America. I know it gets like poo pooed and laughed at, but like that was the live Australia. Yes. Right. It was like that. Which was a success. Yeah. Big time. Because of Saudi Prince money, right? Well, yeah, but you,

but also proof that there is a desire for that down. And if you have investment maybe you can On top of that skip the you do a good TV product you have a cogent social team like you have capable World-class people working for you. It's not just like hey, we're going no offense to the wind of like hey We're going to Greensboro this week like that's not getting People in London excited to watch PGA and that's running with it with the Asia swing It was always silly season kind of like golf in the fall. Yeah, it's an afterthought not getting people in London excited to watch P3. And that was a thing with the Asia Swing.

It was always silly season, kind of like golf in the fall. Yeah, it's an afterthought. So if you're going to do it, you got to do it right. But I think what's hard is a lot of what we said about this event that we're sitting at right now is like we're right in the middle of that fabric ripping where it's like this entire event was built on the Monterey Peninsula Foundation, celebrities,

pro-am, parties, dinners, all that stuff. Like nobody in London is going to care about that either. Good on them, they ripped the band in. Right, and that's where it's just going to be an ugly kind of, like to your point, like what does the fan think? It's like, dude, it's just going to be clunky and like kind of shitty for a while while everybody's figuring it out. Sure. And then we have just kind of these almost, I don't want to call them lane duck seasons, but it's just like, I was pretty amped on like how the,

hey, to even say it, the FedEx Cup season was on playing last year with the designated event model. It was like easier to get hyped for the bigger events. Like the FedEx Cup leaderboard, like halfway through the year looked like it should instead of, you know, the guys that won fall events kind of being represented at the top and all that. And then when the mergers announced, it's kind of like,

all right, well, if this isn't the future of how golf's going to look like, it's really hard like, all right, well, if this isn't the future of how golf's going to look like, it's really hard to get really amped for these individual seasons and what. So that's a challenge they're going to have to overcome right now as well. It's going to get worse before it gets better. These guys are not going to all be playing in the same tournaments

again any time very soon. Which, I mean, we can talk about how that all gets rolled back in. But taking a quick break. So we're going to take a quick break for that. We're going to bring KVV in shortly. Yeah, we don talk about how that all gets rolled back in, but. Taking a quick break. So I'm going to break for that. We're going to. Yeah, we don't want this to be too serious. We're going to bring KVV in to get some player reactions.

But first, we're going to we're going to run through our first power rankings on the blue is big board. Tell us who's just joining us. We're going worse to first. Tell us what this is. So the blue is big board is a proprietary model. It's forward looking. It's predictive.

We have a kind of have a data lake. Thank you for asking. Strokes gained heart goes into this. Okay. The eye test? The eye test, of course. Strokes gained stoke levels, are stoke levels high on the range.

Are my sources out here telling me this guy's flushing it? You know, are we getting word? How do you choose your sources? That's also proprietary. Okay. History repeats itself, that goes into this. It doesn't repeat itself, I thought it echoes. Well, it echoes. That, thank a proprietary. History repeats itself. That goes into this. It doesn't repeat itself.

I thought it echoes. Well, it echoes. That, thank you. Thank you. So that goes into this. Of course, meltwater metrics go into this. And this week, specifically, we have to adjust the model. What are we looking for this week?

We're looking for mutters. OK? We're looking for. Because of the upcoming conditions? Because of the upcoming conditions. Will you be releasing the individual components of your model to support? Absolutely not a lot of players Transparency a lot of these guys are looking for they're looking for transparency man or doesn't you won't do it

You won't live your truth We're looking for good approach play We're looking for we're you know, we're not looking for we're not looking for driving distance These are all things that are going into that hurt you out here doesn't hurt you but it's not it's not as much a non-factor it's a non-factor so my beautiful boys grown up I just want to let you guys know he was working on this last night because this will be a test for you guys I have 81 names and my power rankings I believe there's only 80 there's only 80 in the field so it's gonna be up to you to figure out who

that you know name is. Do you know? I might. What we're gonna find out. So, kicking it off. Mr. Relevant. Mr. Relevant, Mr. 81. SH Kim.

Oh. I'm just not sure. Can confirm he's in the field. He is in the field. So am I. I might need to apologize to him, not familiar with this game. We're gonna go through the first ten math

Matthew Pavan he won last I know it's a hangover week. Oh, it's just low on my board But but he's French who's probably drinking the good stuff. So he's probably not Wow, I also I just think he's gonna have he's got too much on his mind actively put him down the list he's playing with the Head of like the French golf Yeah, he's got too much going on I have a direct shot at you two. Taylor Montgomery, gotta prove it. Way down my list.

79. I'm a little worried about this one because he's won on Poe before. But haven't seen much from him lately. So he's down the list. What I respect from Neal is he's doing this really loud. For sure. Anybody else?

Yeah, sure. Kurt Kidiyama, just not seeing it right now. I think Kurt Kidiyama is right there. His bag is literally. We got Adam Scott right behind us. We got Patrick Rogers over here. They could come sit in the hot seat. He's right there. He's right there. His bag is literally. We got Adam Scott right behind us. We got Patrick Rogers over here. They could come sit in the hot seat. We could go over.

There's no shade to anybody. You've got to rank them. We have to do it. We've got Nick Hardy. Oh, that's a direct shot. I think Nick Hardy, he's an elite iron player. I think not only does he make the cut because there's no cut this week,

he's going to finish. I think Nick Hardy finishes top 10 this week. There you go, Sam Ryder, Hayden Buckley, Lee Hodges, Thomas Dietre, Nick Dunlap, Christian Bzadenhote, and the soldier boy himself. Yo! Kevin Yu coming in at 70. Can't confirm all of those guys are in the field. All of those guys are in the field.

That is my 81 to 70 list. I don't want to pick too much of that, but just talk to me. You haven't seen enough from Dunlap. You're not feeling his form. Another guy feels a little bit like it's life's coming at him pretty fast. I'm not. I almost think this takes the pressure off of him, but in the Balugas power rankings, you know, I feel like he might be coasting a little bit right now. Tim Tucker just just flashes the nasty look after the Kirk. Wow He's a little guy. You want to be in the conditions. He's got he's got rabbit ears. Kurt Kidiyama, the power plant. He's a little too wild off

the tee for me. And I feel like in the conditions out here, I don't think that's going to play well this week. And it's no shade to any of these guys. I'm so proud of our beautiful boy. He was last night. He's getting ready to do the big board. He comes to me. He says, hey, how do I figure out what skills are on display here? Well, no, I look at data golf. I looked at the course fit tool. But it wasn't really calling out to me like what is the factor.

So Sully, help me out a little bit. That's a factor in your models. You're just not going to be blind to the data like some people. No, there's a lot more eye tests. And there's strokes gained heart. And for these guys on this list, I haven't seen that. Yeah, sure, Dunlap. But there's other factors involved.

I haven't seen the heart from Dunlap and Pavon this year. I'll let you guys think that over. We're going to bring KVV in now. All right, let's bring it to get back to more pressing topics. Thank you, Neil. Bringing in our very own. That was interesting. Kevin Vedd-Valkenberg has been doing some journalistic work out on the range, getting

reaction hours. Thank you. To what's been going on. Neil, you are blocking the camera. Why don't you tell us a little bit about what you heard? Yeah, I talked to Adam Scott, you know, figured he would be the best source to get to. And he was like, I'm excited. Like I'm not exhausted. I am feeling like this is the next step in the future of the PGA Tour iconic American brand. Let's celebrate this. And I was like, okay, like, hear me out. Like what's, what is the benefit for fans in this?

And I think he was very, you know, Adam Scott takes us long pauses and then thinks about what he says. And I said, you know what, you're gonna see. You're gonna actually see some benefit going forward for the fans. There's the only way to sort of figure out the future of what the tour is gonna look like is to do this.

And then the next step is making the product better. And so, you know, look, I think Adam's very diplomatic. He has to kind of be very measured in what he's saying. Calmore Cowah, on the other hand, who I grabbed, sort of, he was actually wearing shorts today. Full tan will short out. It was impressive. That's a guy who's ready. He might have four layers on right now. Neil needs to move him up the big board. Stay tuned for that. I have some more dogged of them than we thought. You know Markowa obviously followed up a little bit on his comments yesterday about the fan stuff because I think that's kind of the most important thing from my perspective is like how

does this benefit anybody who cares about golf and he I think a really great comment is like we all need to stop complaining yes yes and he's not a nice not complaining no he put it on himself he's like I need to like I. He's like, I need to like, I've done something complaining and I need to like get over it and I need to basically make this. He's like, if there's a product doesn't grow, then none of this matters. And I thought that was like super mature

and a good perspective from him. And he was like, we don't know, we know how to play golf. We needed to bring in people who know how to, it's singing your tune, TC. We need people who know how to build teams, build leagues. It's like, that's not what we've been good at. And so my hope is that these people aren't just smart at business.

They know what they're doing in the larger sports world. And that's what golf can benefit from. Sounds like he's calling for regime change as well. Could be. I mean, I think we don't know what Jay's job is going to be, right, in this next sort of thing. But it's not going to be the same job. And there's going to be a lot more people who are going to say,

hey, maybe all these players should be at this tournament. Hey, maybe all these players should do these media obligations. Hey, maybe stop acting like you're an independent contractor on every single aspect of what you do and start looking at it as a larger picture of, OK, we have a responsibility to all of the shareholders and we need to like all start rowing in that direction.

Can we put this to the test today? Can we get Colin Markow to come sit down with us right here? Great question. I do not know. He hit for about 15 minutes and I don't know that he would have like sat here in shorts and froze his ass off for us as much as he loves us. One other thing, equity is only valuable if it's growing.

Otherwise, they might as well just give these guys cash and let them manage it themselves. I'll also be very curious to see how they do the tax ramifications of giving equity that you can't cash out immediately. Like, you have to put a valuation on that, and then you have to pay taxes on that. I'm sure we'll get some winching from guys on that too. I think the like one of my biggest like takeaways from this morning is hey if you

thought that like this was gonna be the first step in like those two you know leagues coming back together, you're right. If you thought that like next week you might see John Rahman at a PGA Tour event, you're dead wrong and like we're like maybe a year from an actual more than that, like reunification. Like the Department of Justice is gonna sit here and like pick this apart and probably make them tweak it and make them sort of, you know, bend the knee a little bit.

And I don't think that really matters what administration is, you know, is next around the corner. It's the first, I guess, like step and probably what, you know, has been 50 steps. The chess move. Arthur Blank is a big concessions prices guy. We may see concessions prices at PGA tour events go way down, but back to again, there's a giant gaping hole in the side of the size of the ship that you can't

patch over. Like when a new competitor entered the marketplace and created this new market for players It can't go away now like you can't that was the whole point of the PGL was like no We're doing this all within the same umbrella within cooperation And now you can't within the regulatory purposes of for anti competitive reasons this league can't go away So it's gonna exist in some way and so that that's a whole factor in this as well And that's what's gonna to be probably tough to stomach for some of the guys out here is, like, do you have,

like, do this Jordan Spieth, despite, you know, being on the PGA Tour board and being, like, strongly on this side, so you're going to have to play a event in Saudi Arabia in 2026, is like, a question that is going to have to be answered, and it's going to be pretty uncomfortable for a lot of people involved in this. Because PIP is going to put a billion and a half dollars into this. They're going to have their way in a lot of people involved in this because Piff is gonna put a billion and a half dollars into this they're gonna have their way in a

lot of ways this is not I don't think today is a huge enormous victory for the Pgh or and I'll tell you what like if you think you're gonna sit here and tell me that this whole thing is worth 12 billion dollars because joking with DJ on the way here okay like that's as much as like the Dodgers and the Yankees combined are worth so haha like professional golfers really worth that much you better show me like how it's going to be worth that much. And if it's that means big like playing on a global tour, like, okay, like you better be willing to fricking drag your butt to, you know, wherever I came up to a laptop in Hong City and you

have to, you know, do those things that are going to serve buddy better start learning Arabic. I do. I think you're probably undervaluing in the current inflated sure. Blansky's price, Elford, 10 billion. But like the daughter, the Orioles just sold for $1.75 billion. Like it's worth two professional like sports teams in a successful professional sports league. And those are, those are baseball teams that have 162 game season.

That's a ton of inventory. That's what the PGA tour. That's part of the value of the PGA tour is It's a how many you know, there's 47 events or whatever There's a ton of commercial inventory there and it's it's gonna be really interesting to see who gets squeezed in this Is it the charities? Is it the I just I think for the first time like talking to more cows this morning hearing him a little bit Yesterday and it's the first time the players maybe the light started to go off of like, yo, like we can't just like, Hoover up all the cash in the, you know, in all this

and not think that there's something that has to come back to the actual fans. Like, you look, if you want, if you think that Saudi Arabia can just subsidize this thing forever, and we can all kind of like play like a three card Monty and just keep moving money around and pretend like nobody will ever have a say in it. Then I get your perspective, but I think you're wrong.

Like eventually you have to actually reward the people who are investing in it other than the Saudis who obviously have their purposes behind it. But like John Henry wants to make a profit. So he's gonna wanna like have more Red Sox fans become golf fans, right? Or talk to Pittsburgh Penguins fans or they own Liverpool, right?

Like, you know, how is that going? And this is where though, the little bit of faith I do have in this is like bringing in all of these successful owners from other sports to like start informing and start like taking over of, giving some actual advice into how to do this from outside of Panavidra is what is clearly desperately

needed, right? Like it, that's the one part that I'm kind of like, do I trust like we've been clamoring for 10 years for certain kinds of changes that are more fan centric from the PJ Toran is clearly not come. It hasn't come and it's not going to come. And so having somebody else come in to be like, hey, can we maybe look to how other sports are doing this?

Like you want to talk to Adam Silver about how they manage social media and fan interaction of highlights and how House of Highlights that has 40 million Instagram followers just takes NBA highlights and redistributes them to fans and interacts with fans around the world instead of, you know, just crowing over every single little detail

of teeny tiny little contracts that nobody is caring about that is sinking the ships instead of raising all boats. Like somebody from outside of golf coming in to like help with that part is gonna be, that's the one lone part that I'm like, all right, there's a little bit of a path here. It's not just fans that are getting squeezed too. Sponsors are pissed as well.

Like bringing people from the NFL or from other places that can help these sponsors leverage their dollars so it doesn't just seem like they're throwing good money after bad. Like we've already seen Wells Fargo walk away, farmers is walking away. And with the move from the model being, hey, this is just a corporate entertainment product and we're going to get our best clients here and everything else on the media side is gravy to, it's a big transition to, hey, this is a media first, global rights, you know, brand marketing exercise.

Which, what if I told you they don't own the five biggest events in the sport? Exactly. Where I keep coming, right. So that is a part of this as well. Like, what is all this money for? It's not just to like, let's pay the sponsors to go away and not air commercials. Like, that's not it. But like, what are they going to do in terms of buying up real estate,

if you will, around the world of golf? That's something worth keeping an eye on. I think so. I have a prior point about the House of Highlights stuff. The right way to do it would be to look at what baseball did and basketball did and say, hey, we need young people to be interested in this. That's where young people live in on the online world.

Let's bring them all in. The wrong way to do it, and I'm not going to be pretending that this might not be the way the golf goes, would be like, you know what? Let's charge people more for their access. Let's basically squeeze the OEMs to basically say, oh yeah, the only thing that you can shoot at events is in this tiny window, and you owe us this much money

if you want to have that access. That could be That's what they're already doing. I don't think you do it more. Yeah. Well, meanwhile This is a tour Twitter account is tweeting a video of Xander is and deer shawfully Hitting a shot of a spy glass with a deer in the background. Do you get it? I mean I'm dare there's a meta joke, but I, you know, it just opened it up more, right? Like, the whole, like, hard knocks thing for the NFL.

Imagine if we had like a real documentary program that wasn't full swing, that wasn't sort of sanitized, that wasn't kind of like, hey, everybody's great. So can I stop you on that? Because you're raving about more, how he talked about this specifically yesterday about like, you know, being mic'd up and everything. He was like, he shut that down. I'm like, you know, five hours being out there.

And I understand a little bit of this. Like some of our conversations are not meant for public air. Like they still don't see it that way. Right. If George Kittle gets mic'd up, you know, in an NFC championship game for the whole game, like that's kind of part of that's collective bargaining, though, right? And that's like, you're going to do this. I think, but also like sound effects, like they're not going to air George Kittle out. Right. And that's what it has to be some trust.

It has to say some of that stuff is just seeing the ball go through the hoop. Right. And like some brave heroic player being the first one to do it has to prove like, oh yeah. Hey, I actually said this and they cut it out. And like I wanted to cut this out. Access tournament where it's like, like all right everything in this thing We're gonna show you the inside working as of this everybody's gonna be mic'd up You know we're gonna turn this into a movie That's gonna be like all right we get a real look at it

And then you know go back to your other model and see how popular that one is yeah Kevin you the soldier boy Just walked by Bad look on his face after nailsiels. After Niels, pretty much bodied him. So we kind of glanced past this earlier. Again, also issued in the statement today was, you know, the transaction announced today allows for a co-investment from the Public Investment Fund in the future subject to all necessary regulatory approvals. And they talk a couple times in the press release about regulatory approvals. And as part of PGA Tour Enterprises, SSG, a consortium of American sports team owners

led by Fenway Sports Group today closed on a major financial and strategic investment of up to $3 billion. SSG is investing an initial $1.5 billion into PGA Tour Enterprises and provides strategic focus on maximizing revenue generation for the benefit of the players and on finding opportunities to enhance the game of golf across the world. Where's the 1.5 billion going? Like what are you like? All right, 1.5 billion dollars in cash is coming through the door.

What are you doing with it? Bitcoin, baby, let's go to the moon. Or if they say, hey, we need more than 1.5. Let's say we get two years down the road, we need more than 1.5. Let's say we get two years down the road We need more than 1.5 is that underpinning purses to keep these guys happy is that building out your own? Production that's far and away better than what ABC golf channels doing is it building tiger like an exoskeleton Does it build a better dumb I'm trying to let yeah, I think what the people want is like jet lagged real-time analysis here of Moving around billions of dollars. So that's what I'm gonna give you But like does some of that truly come to like reducing the need for commercial?

Interruptions right do you almost like subsidize like hey you know, for the, for the season to cut commercials by 40% is going to cost whatever, however many millions of dollars, like you legitimately take some of that and hope that like the product just improves that way, which even like saying that out loud is like, can I answer that part though? There is, I would say there is, let's, let's say there's 40% of the commercial inventory going down. There is 40% that's going to waste, right? It is part of these packages that are antiquated packages that you have to buy

if you're a title sponsor and all this stuff. And most of the sponsors that we've talked to have been like, yeah, they run too many of our ads. Like that's not as valuable. The more you run, they're not all created equal, right? So can we, can you modernize these deals a little bit to diminish a little bit of that? So your commercial space you're actually using is like, instead of like glazing over when it happens,

recognizing who the sponsors are that are supported in the competitive product, instead of ending up hating those sponsors, like that is where the progress can be made. No one is saying there shouldn't be commercials, no one is saying there shouldn't be revenue, but if you trim it from, call it 100 spots you use throughout the year to 60, and you're charging more for it, and it's in more consequential spots or whatever, there is a way to do it that's not clearly dumb,

that pisses off the viewers and pisses off the sponsors. It's just, I can already see this happening in slow motion because there's such a, there's this infrastructure already in place, the media right steel runs through what, 20, 20, or 2032. And so that's basically giving CBS and Golf Channel and NBC a check and saying, hey, we're buying out 40% of your inventory, but like be creative.

Hey, say, all right, if you're a title sponsor, I know we're asking you for more money. With that money, you're also gonna, you're gonna be a title sponsor, I know we're asking you for more money. With that money, you're also going to be the title sponsor of the hour commercial free on Sundays or, you know, like find some little sticks and carrots here as well. So I just think it's the song. It's the song of the summer model, right? The first time you hear like the song of the summer, you're like, oh,

that's a banger. Like it's awesome. When you hear it 50 times and you cannot get escape from it, you're like, this song sucks. And I have a negative opinion towards Taylor Swift or Zach Bryan or whomever because. I hate my A1C. I don't need my A1C any lower than it already is. I've seen it all enough.

It's tough. I think we're going to bring Neil back in. All right, we are going to rotate you out. Go get Oosty. We can jump up there. Go get some more scoops, Kev. Go get some more. I'm talking about this guy right here.

It's me simultaneously amped up and like so mad at the current leadership that's put us in this position. And it all just comes down to how long of a view, how long of a, you know, a curve are they looking at here? Is this a five year thing or is this a 20 year thing for Colin and blank and Werner and the boys. Neil, what did you drum up out there? Awesome, good stuff. It was cool to see the Beluga's models working in real time right there.

Unknown cat, unnamed catty, came over whispered into the Beluga's ear. Yes. And you could see him go to the notepad and change the models. I was asking who are the mutters out here? Turns out it might be a bunch of pampered bucks. He was drawing a blank. He's like, I got to look up the field list. I don't know.

He's just scrolling, scrolling. No, scroll, scroll, scroll. It was tough. It's fun. But these are like top tier mutters. So we're not going to get to those till the end. Stay tuned for that, folks. We're going 69 down to six. You are shot. Shot a really nasty look at a soldier boy.

He was sweet. Did you do 11 last time? Yeah, I did. Make sure we're not missing any. We haven't gotten the Easter egg. So coming in at 69, this could be controversial, but Hideki Matsuyama definitely in the field. We saw him. Who knows. Right. I don't feel like we've heard much out of Hideki world class player. Obviously. What's the highest he's ever gotten in the beluga index? Like retroactively, we'd have to go back and look in the archives when he won the masters. I gotta think he was probably in the top five. Yeah. Yeah. Back when Neil was using the SI golf rankings. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Just distance per shot factor into the rankings. I would say with Hideki

He he ranks low in in strokes gain stoke level. Yeah, and his do outfits factor in any of this It's almost so small percentage 68 Eric van ruin ruin Wow, Roy Roy He's in DJ's band. Yeah, he walked by and gave me a little... I'm a big fan of him. We're gonna try to shred later this week. No track record here. Next, 67, Alex Smalley. 66, Nick Taylor.

All right, if we threw up 10 pictures, could you pick Alex Smalley out of a lineup? I could. I don't think so. I don't think I could either. I joined you on that block, my friend. Nick Taylor. Saw him. Nick Taylor saw him he's here He's here Ben Griffin is at 65. We're just listening for the people for the guy's out of the field Adam shank

Stop and Griffin enjoying a nice bowl of chili. He also you know what I would put him higher than the ring Absolutely his hat sponsor is definitely running this year for prestige World Wide Award Who's that sorry like XRP or something like something. Like who knows? Shank, right? Oh, shank. Yeah. Electron. No clue what that is. It's a crypto, isn't it?

Really? Yeah. I'm not sure. Crypto or logistics. I heard. Isn't that Ripple? I've got Andrew Putnam at 63. I do want to shout out Andrew Putnam's trapezoid data golf

shape. He hits it. He's like minus three strokes gained on distance, but then he's just like excelling at everything else. So I feel like this one might burn me. I felt like I needed to put him a little higher. He's at 63. He's from the Pacific Northwest too. Okay, it could be a mutter. So that's one that the Beluga could get wrong here. When the new rankings come out later today. There's the sensation. Country Music Star, Eric Cole.

Stay tuned for his name. He's coming up later. He's on the other stage later. Neil's looking over his shoulder for like, oh, I'm about to drop somebody's name. He's got an upcoming EP. Again, there's no shade in these. You have to rank everybody.

That was the mission here. Cam Davis at 62. Saw him. This one's going to shock some people. Cam Davis at 62. Wow, this one's gonna shock some people. Cam Davis at 62. That's some shade. I haven't noted. Could burn me. And we've got exposure here. Four of four of spire index.

61 is Sam Burns. Whoa. It's not Bermuda. Wow. Can't pick him. I think he had one, he had pretty good finish earlier in the season, but I'm going out on a ledge here and saying 61. And then 60 is Si Woo Kim. Saw him.

What are you have the most issue with guys? I mean, Sam Burns is definitely a world class player. Obviously, Taylor Montgomery doesn't feel great for me and TC, but I understand that. Cam Davis. Don't love the Cam Davis. Don't love. Putnam seems low to be honest. Obviously Taylor Montgomery doesn't feel great for me and TC, but I understand that Don't love the Cam Davis don't love Putnam seems to be honest. Yeah, I think I feel like Putnam and Cam couple of the I don't think Sam Burns gonna play that well today couple of the Hardy boys We're not wild about about his rankings the heart Hardy boys

Yeah, not wild about that. But you know, I'm personally offended by the Nick Hardy thing. And actually, I'm going to walk you up later to introduce you to Nick Hardy. Hey, man, you might have heard there's some stuff going around. The blue rankings are we try to be unbiased, right? No, there's no, not necessarily how they're going to finish in the tournament or is it? No, it's how they're going to finish. I would like to help you out. I'd lay up, you know, I'd love to see, see you guys power rank. I need to. This might need to be an assignment. You're doing a great job.

We're going to be an assignment for all the majors going forward. So we get to the rankings. 156 dudes. Yeah. Build the beluga index this week. We should have Neilville, the whole SEO thing around it. Let me get this week's beluga index public. We need to publish it on Wednesday night. You want to get into a little of Mick Ribbs comments yesterday that made some headlines. He said, I think life is about choices. Guys made choices to go and play live guys made

choices to stay here. This was an ad read. It sounds like it sounds like an AT&T commercial. Or a Morgan Stanley commercial. Life is not choices. You have to have people to help make those choices. If people still have eligibility on this tour, there's that phrase again. If people still have eligibility on this tour and they want to come back and play,

or you want to try and do something different, let them come back. I mean, I don't think it's hard. I think it's hard to punish people. I don't think there should be punishment for, obviously, I've changed my tune on that because I see where golf is and I see that having a diminished PGA tour and having a diminished live tour or anything else is bad for both parties.

It'd be much better being together and moving forward together for the good of the game. That's my opinion of it. JT and Bones both just walked by. They both have a blue on black, Kenny Wayne Shepherd look going on. I love that. Yeah. That sounds a lot like he's going to, like they're going to try to make the guys that don't have status,

like the gooches of the world who want to come back, play corn fairy tour or go to Q school, which is sick. I don't see how there is any other way. I mean, what's what's the criteria to just bypass and let guys come right back? If you've given up tour membership, I don't know how you just automatically get it back. Your live accomplishments are not going to count towards that.

But I mean, like who, I don't even have the list in front of me of guys that did not resign their toward membership, right? Dustin Johnson was a lifetime member and he resigned his membership. He did, I remember him saying that specifically. So does that end up playing a factor in how it all unfolds? I don't know, but the key part of this is this worry saying here, like this is obviously I've changed my tune on that.

What is your guys reaction to this stance of like, yes, guys should be able to come back without being punished. And I think punished and being qualified are two different things here. And I think that's kind of important. And he spells that out in this and that was spelled out in the press release today. I feel like, I feel like he would probably like, I don't know. I think it becomes pretty obvious that like you lose the ability to punish when like you lose the leverage and you lost the leverage when like you lost all these guys slowly over the last 18 months

and when you announced on June 6th that you were partnering with, right? And that's where it's like sanction me with who is a bit of a is a bit like yeah Go ahead and sanction me man like I feel like I Don't know changing your tune and like admitting I don't want to say admitting defeat But I don't know if he would put it that way but that's kind of how it feels is like being a realist about the situation and Digging your heels in and just saying like this is bullshit. We need to keep punishing these guys when that's not really possible feels pointless needless, like, is this different necessarily like this different from banning guys from playing PJ tour events that left for live like initially,

I think so. Yeah. Again, the live bots are in purposefully confusing that part of it. Right? Well, this could have been, this could have been done three years ago. It's like, well, no, it's not quite the same thing. I feel like a lot of those are all like defense tactics, right? And now it's like, I mean, the outcome is, is kind of determined. We have to end up with that. Right. So it's like, this whole thing is such a, it's going to be such an interesting test case in governance. So the strategic sports advisor, SSG guys get four board spots. If Yasser buys 20, 25% of their stake from them,

Yasser gets one board spot. Yasser gets outvoted on, hey, we're gonna make it really difficult for these guys to fold in or whatever. And Yasser gets outvoted on stuff. How is he gonna take that? Like that, it, oh, and- I would think he wouldn't structure it that way.

And who is going to, like it's still PGA Tour making the decisions on how to discipline the membership versus PGA Tour Enterprises is a totally different thing too, right? Well, I understood that PIP will be buying up to 49% of the SSG stake, not 25% of the stake. Maybe two board seats then. So even then on the, but that's still PGA Tour Enterprises,

which then flows into the you know, the PGA tour advisory board or whatever. Yeah. But it is a reversal. I think from when we initially started like June 6th last year, the plan was with whatever that framework agreement was, and this has been reported by SI since then, was like a billion dollars worth of an equalization fund, right? So no, I wouldn't call that punishment to the live guys, but a fund to top up the PGA Tour players that did not leave for live to kind of help stomach. Like, yeah, the guys that left are going to be coming back,

and you're all going to be playing together again. But also, here's $50 million. Is that sound like a fair deal? But that is now off the table. And I think that's what's kind of worry is waving the white flag here on. Like, no, that's not going to be a part of this. We have this equity. That's

what the equity is for. But also like the guys that have not resigned their membership, again, that's how I'm reading that. The guys that are qualified and eligible to still be on the tour will be able to come back. But I think that list is a lot shorter than people realize. Even myself. Saw-Hiff's got the big mitts on. Oh, Saw-Hiff is ready to go. What's up? What's up? How we doing? Keeping the hands warm. full saw head is ready to go. What's up? What's up? How we doing? Let's go.

Keeping the hands warm. My, I guess, take for a better, lack of a better term with Rory's seems like just exhausted. They're like, yeah. Kind of all over the place. And shooting from the hip at this point. A little bit. Kind of like, yeah, if you guys want

to take a victory lap on me, that's great. I think people can, you know? It is, I think admitting like, yeah, man, whatever, just like, let's get on with it at this point. But there's also an element of like, do it or don't, I got places to be. Yeah, basically. New facts can, new scenarios can change how you feel on something. Sure.

Instead of like digging his heels in. Yeah. Like, you know, instead of digging his heels in and like drawing a hard line, which leads to a continued fractured golf world is a bad thing. He's like the one person so far is willing to be like, yeah, dude, we lost. Like whatever we lost, let's get everyone back together. Can we please get everything? Like he, that's his main through line is getting everyone back together, playing golf again.

Sort of feels like everybody lost a little bit. Totally. Whatever the dude's cash. Yeah, totally. That's where that's where it comes back to like, yeah, if you're going to stunt on us on anything, it's like, yeah, those guys who did that, like, look, look pretty great right now. Sure. Congratulations.

Like I wasn't rooting for that. Like I'm not happy for you. I don't care. Like sure. But like they're like the kind of, I hope they send you a check if you're tweeting it, if you're tweeting about it, I'm trying to do be like, hopefully they top you guys up on, you know, seeing this coming. Yeah.

And then, you know, I, I, as always would give Roy credit for saying what he thinks. Sometimes I wonder, now it's more of evidence of like, why does any pro athlete say what they think? But I appreciate that he's doing it. It's not doing himself any favors with it, but, but I respect it. But now on the back end

We're henceforth going to ask all these guys to say what they think even more and be more more open accessible and open and talkative. Yeah, it's a very much double-edged sword there. So Yeah, it's like get on with it is I feel like his attitude and he seems at peace with it. So that's good. Yeah. I mean, again, it comes from a reaching a new conclusion of like, do whatever we got to do to like, not damage the sport any further in terms of like, two tours bickering and fighting and separate separating the talent. Like, I don't care how this makes me look anymore.

Like we've just done enough damage to like the golf fan. We need to start piecing this thing back together. So he's fine to, he's not, he's not going to come out of this looking great in a lot of people's eyes. Uh, you know, he's been a little inconsistent, a little bit here and there, but at the same time, it's kind of like, I still feel that he is one of few guys that has had the best interest of the game of golf at heart. Um, and he's in a position to be able to do that. And he said that like, I have the financial means that, you know, I judged the other guys too harshly that made this decision

and I'm in a different financial position than a lot of guys. But if I was going to be honest, too, I find his comments and his, you know, kind of back and forth. Some of the whiplash stuff of like he's talking out of both sides of his mouth. He's changing his tune. Find it relatable over the last two years. I really struggled with that. Like, oh, man, I need to be an expert

on this really complex topic. It's like, some days I feel like, man, I just, yeah, I don't really care. That like, ah, man, like, you know, it's just, it's just, it's truly exhausting. So to ask him to have the answers on all this stuff, every time there's a mic in front of him is, you know, it's a pretty heavy load.

Is Roy a mutter? Sources are telling me no, but he's also just really good, so you can't drop him too far down the power ranking. He's playing with the CEO of McDonald's this week. Have it your way. I'm going to ask him if the McRib is back. Oh, that's interesting. Even following the price of pork? I haven't. That's when it comes back. Why don't they just have the McRib is back. Oh, that's interesting. Even following the price of pork?

That's when it comes back. Why don't they just have the McRib? Is that right? Yeah. I think there's a correlation to it. Let me ask you guys, as just a discussion, who do you think the top three mutters are on the field? Because I've asked a couple in the field,

which is the top guys on the PGA tour right now. That's a few, a few caddy sources out here. I have some names. I got two. I'm trying to think of my third. I'm going to say Scott Schaeffler was told he's not a mutter. Really? I don't think he's a mutter. Yes. That, that like known non-mutter. I say, I remember like Oak Hill. That was, that did not go great for him. And I had Oak Hill, which surprised me, Deige. Interesting. Tommy, Tommy's a mutter.

Tommy's definitely named and come up, but can't confirm or deny. Uh, Brian Harmon named and come up, but a good, I think that's a good answer. I think Harmon's a mutter. Who else? What names came up? It's Ricky a mutter. Uh, named and come up. I think back to a mutter. Who else? What names came up? It's Ricky a mutter. Name didn't come up. I think back to that open championship. Right. That's where he's wearing that bright blue. Yeah. What name came up immediately? Spieth, Spieth. Hmm. Uh, that he's much he's on his best behavior. When it's muddy, he's a bit when the weather's like this price of pork.

It's been a bit like being on the road for three weeks. Just like listening and things are getting stressful. If we need to, I did say that, that that that event at Potomac was gnarly. And a name that surprised me. That was rain. And then in the wind, Riviera, he's done quite well. Remember that rainy when he's chip and drivers, like two 35. I could see Chris Kirk being a mutter.

That's interesting. Name didn't come up. Uh, Xander. I had number one name on that list. I had a feeling about that one too. Two, two corroborated sources there. And then, uh, the last one is big tone. Big tones of mutter.

Big tone. Really? It's a name that came up interesting very interesting yeah huh hmm we'll see we shall see key guys not a mutter really we have a new England I would expect Keegan Keegan to be a mega mutter there we want to take a quick quick little break here before we welcome a guest in here I believe shortly we were told a guest might be coming at 9. This might be our window.

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We will be back shortly, right after that. No, we are not ready to take a break, sorry. I sprung that on code. I we are not ready to take a break. Sorry. I Sprung that on I think Russell Henley is probably a mutter Sure, I would buy that I might just start walking up to guys are you a mutter? You should I think that's I think they're all gonna say Yes, a great question. It's like, oh, I don't play slow I don't play slow water. It's Kutcher. I'm out for sure. Don't know. I think definitely ask him. Yeah What's up, Briancher a mutter? For sure. Don't know. I think definitely. Maybe we should ask him. Yeah. What's up, Brian?

Kutcher, you a mutter? Inconclusive. Yeah. He shrugged. We're waiting on word from that. It depends on what kind of mutter it is. This would be the worst possible range to, like, win to hit balls in on the range. Win straight off the left right now.

That's how it was the whole time in Australia. He's coming off the ocean. Does Brian Harmon move up in the models, being a left-hander warming up today in this south wind? And a mutter. I feel like he's definitely going to be doing stuff this week. And he doesn't hit it far, which helps. That's a smaller diversion. Big time course fit.

Love that. He played extremely well at the open. Yes. A slop fest And I would say just he seems like a guy that will's putts in which on poa in attitude grass Of course, it's Josh Allen a mother I'd say so I flow yeah, but isn't that the whole thing with the thing with the whole thing to be there like a dome team that plays in Buffalo We shall know is told me anyways. We shall see all right

We're gonna take a we're gonna take me anyways. We shall see. All right. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back hopefully with a guest here shortly. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the channel. We sent our resident, you know, recruiter. He solid went out to the range to do some recruiting. Insider. Don't come back without a guest.

Yeah. Until he does come back. TC, I know one of your favorite things about this event. Always the, used to be the celebrity pairings now, pretty much just the amateur pairings. Very few celebrities in the field, mostly athletes. Your Josh Allen's Buster Poseys, Alex Smith's. Harris Barton. Harris Barton.

Steve Young's in the field. Aaron Rodgers. Yeah. Paul Gasol. Paul Gasol, looks like Solly's dad. However, there's a number of people who paid the high ticket price to play two rounds of golf in this year's event. What were some of the highlights you really rattled off? I always find some of the business people to be more interesting than the celebrities

or the musicians or the actors and actresses themselves. So first one off the top for me was Ludwig playing with Dermot Desmond. Whoa. JP McManus is not in the field this year. I don't know why. That's very concerning for me. But Dermot Desmond is JP's best friend.

Dermot is a huge supporter of the European Ryder Cup team. So very happy to see him playing with Ludwig. Paired with Rory. Yes, they are paired with Rory. Rory's playing with a guy from TPG. Oh, there you go. A financier. Next, we've got Hogecoin playing with DJ DeSol.

David Solomon. David Solomon of Goldman Sachs. David Tom Hoge. Which very, very, you know, you got to wonder if the, you know, can't lay. I wonder if he was spinning it spinning it at the pairings party. It's interesting. So for those that don't know, just like, to stop. It was distracting. But he was a DJ. And yeah, there's a good article in The New Yorker about David Solomon. Came out, I want to say last year. Interesting. I wouldn't say he fit the Goldman profile when he became CEO.

But he did win the Game of Thrones take over for Lloyd Blank fine. He's been under fire from shareholders. A lot of the employees are unhappy with the back to back to the office mandate as well. So we'll see what happens there. Uh, but very interesting to see him playing with Tom Hogi. Yeah, I don't know that I would have crossed those two on my list. Oh, Oh, Oh,

maybe that's interesting. Bitcoin, It's an unstable coin. Maybe that's interesting. The Bitcoin ETF. It's an unstable coin. I don't know if the shareholders are going to love that. Next, we've got JT playing with Vivek Sankaran, which he actually blew up one of our shots yesterday, which was great. I actually appreciated that. Asked him to come on the show.

He declined politely. You know what Vivek does? He's the CEO of Albertsons. Really? Yeah, which you know they're in their merger with potential merger with Kroger right now. Potentially, you know, some some some anti trust stuff going on there. Yes. I may need to get an audience with him. Talk to him about Kroger versus Erdogan. Sure. Maybe a trap draw

sidebar. Yeah. Emiliano. It's on the on the celebrity kind of athlete front. Emiliano Grillo playing with Pau Gasol. I was a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit

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Exactly. I'd like to hear a little bit about how some of these things come together. And we have the guy that might be able to help us with that. Tournament director Steve John, I believe, is going to join us here very shortly. Neil, go flag him down here. I think he's going to help us with that. Tournament director Steve John, I believe is going to join us here very shortly. Neil, go flag him down here. I think he's going to take your spot here.

Welcoming in the famed tournament director of the Pebble Beach, AT&T Pebble Beach Pro. I'm Mr. Steve John. How are we doing today, Steve? Hello, fellas. Hey. I'm situated with Mike. He's right there in his face there.

Just get it right there in his face. There we go. There we go. Perfect. Little different vibe here this year, huh? Wow. This is crazy. We have honestly the 80 best players that could possibly be here are here.

It's nuts. I mean, last year it was a little different, right? It was very, the weather seems kind of similar. It might be kind of similar. I was not going to invite you back for that reason. Now it's really cool. The vibe is amazing. You know, we go from a celebrity aspect

where everybody's all excited about seeing celebrities to this, which is so Uber golf focused, you think we might lose it. We're actually gaining it. It's really something that AT&T deserves, the foundation deserves. We're the most charitable golf team in the PGA Tour. And Pebble Beach deserves it.

I mean, it's Pebble Beach for God's sakes, right? So it's really cool. Having the best players play at Pebble Beach seems like something that should definitely happen, right? So it seems obvious. With the weather, it's Pebble Beach for God's sakes, right? So it's really, having the best players play at Pebble Beach seems like something that should definitely happen, right? So it seems obvious. With the weather, it's also nice that you don't have to worry about nine, is it nine green over at Monterey Peninsula? Oh, the drive, the drive out to 10 for these people,

as you know, it's a John out. I mean, it's just, it's a commitment. And that whole run is when we stopped golf last year, because the balls were rolling on. Was it 9 or 10? One of those two, I know. I think it was like the limiting factor. So we love Monterey, MPCC.

But we had to drop one golf course. And it just made sense. That's just a short runway to work with. Logistics are much easier with Spai and Pebble. They're right next to each other. Yeah, it just seems like it's simplified things. Players love Spai. You like Spai? Yeah. It's tough. Super Super excited to see spy on TV a little bit more too. It sounds like they're gonna have some

handheld cameras out there for the first time. They do. They've got four cameras out there for the league groups, whatever, feature groups I guess. So yeah, you'll see a lot of spy, which we had spy last year in the rotation with cameras, so it was good. I mean, there was some shots at Monterey. I've never noticed before What hole where is that? That was pretty cool. We're just going through the some of the pairings We love to break down the pairings whenever that that sheet comes out between the pros and yeah Can you give some insight into how these kind of come together to people kind of make some requests? Do you try to pair up personalities? How does it work? Yes a great question guaranteed amateurs are not allowed to make a request You didn't make a request last year.

Did not. It was random. Yours was a setup. So, no, it's really cool. So the pros can request players. Many have relationships with their, you know, Rory's got the workday connection, right? So others, I mean, Keith Mitchell's got Josh because they're buddies.

But there's Jim Cavanaugh, he has a relationship with Ben Griffin, who's a worldwide technology. So some of that, I'd say, I don't know, 8 to 10, maybe 12. And then others are just good friends, Alex Smith and Mackenzie Hughes, became friends over the AT&T. And they've kept their friendship for a couple of years now. And others are completely random. We try to match, you know, the tournament committee,

this year was easy with 80 teams, 156 is a little more challenging. So we try to pick guys that we think will get along. The pros we match up according to their categories. So that's kind of preset. But then we try to put the average, it would fit, good fit really. David Solomon and Tom Hogi, I didn't see that one.

I really like Tom Hogi. I really like him. And you know, David Solomon's a DJ. We were just discussing that. He's really good. I mean seriously. Was he spinning last night at the party? No, no, but I wanted to do it last year. Remember the party we had, the Friday night party which was insane with cool with schoolboy Macklemore and Alenium and I said I said some solid like get up there do it

No, no, I'm not going with those guys The other Solomon not me. Yeah, you could you could do it Speak country roads. Yes. He's he's he's got that he's got that town But Tom Hoguey is just one of those great, great guys. And I thought it'd be a good pairing. Any word on the the allegations that were rampant last year of sandbagging by Aaron Rodgers, any tournament official statement? Yes, I will make a official statement.

I I retrieved the scorecards from the from the scoring booth. I reviewed them. He didn't play the back nine at Pebble Beach. Did not post one score. Lightning struck for those guys. Aaron's been a nine-handy cap for seven years. He may have made the cut once. I don't even think he actually did. He's really never helped very much. And this year he just had, if Ben made a bogey or something, Aaron made it. He's hammering an egg.

He made two birdies around. Maybe one round he had three. But he didn't really compete a lot, honestly. I mean, full disclosure, cards reflect that. So no, I can defend him. And I will defend him. It seems tough to sandbag coming off in Achilles injury as well.

That's true. He just made a hole in one for God's sake. I saw there's an orthopedic surgeon in his group this week. The team doctor for the random pairing. I saw there's an orthopedic surgeon in his group this week. The team doctor for the... That was a random pairing. That was random? Random pairing.

I don't know how that happened. His doctor was paired with doctor patient. Yes. Yeah. It's a good pairing. How, what has been the vibe, kind of the, you know, shifting away from a more traditional format for a long, long, long running tournament? What was kind of that process like?

Were there growing pains in shifting kind of to this new designated signature event model and kind of this new structure of this event? What's that change been like for you around here? I really think it's, you know, change is difficult. And 77 years of history of this format, being started at Clint continued it. And to change, you know, so dramatically, it's tough. But as I said to Barry, it's the right thing to do.

We needed to do this for Pavel Beech and the Foundation and AT&T. Transitioning from what we were to what we are now is difficult, a lot of hard phone calls to people that had played in the past that aren't playing this year. There's simply not enough room. I didn't get a phone call. I didn't even get a phone call.

You know, I like the message. It was too difficult. You didn't get my text? The phone's been all weird. It's tough, but we worked closely with AT&T and Pavel to make sure that we're doing the right thing. We're communicating it properly, get out ahead of it. And honestly, everybody was fine with it.

Every phone call that the tournament committee made, I made a few others made calls. They understand it. We're all about charity. I like care about it. At the end of the day, we can push as many dollars as we can in the community. Last year, 18 million. We hope to do the same this year. If we can't do that, then we shouldn't do it and we can.

So this model is working. What you've been in this role for quite a while, right? I mean, a dozen years. We've talked about on this pot a lot where I used to work for the tour and I would come out to this event and these guys would watch it on TV and their experience on TV was not always their favorite. You know, the celebrities thing didn't really work as like enthusiasts golfers. Yeah. Hardcore golfers in the world. And my take was always like, man, on site, it's like, it's really fun, man. It's really cool. People are pumped to see Ray Romano and Bill Murray and like they,

they love it. And I'm just curious from your perspective, what that balance has been like between like this being a community event and now all of a sudden it's like, we kind of need to make it like a worldwide entertainment product, you know, almost like outward facing, you know? Yeah, I think you think about it. 99% of our tickets were sold for people that wanted to come

and see a celebrity athlete. Right. 99 for how many years? Yeah. Now we have eight notable amateurs on Thursday and Thursday and Friday. Sorry, it's completely different. I don't know what's going to show up here tomorrow and Friday. Sorry, it's completely different.

I don't know what's going to show up here tomorrow to watch golf, but it's a golf-centric crowd. I would imagine. If anybody's always wanted to see great golf at Hell Beach, this is your year to do it. And I think we'll see the takeaway from the spectator. We do a spectator survey every year. And there's always people who complain no matter what we do, right? But there are a lot of people that were really positive about, you know, the celebrities playing last year, they love it, others would say, oh, they're not in the best pros are coming here, which isn't really true because the best, we do, we had a great four.

The field's been improving for a while. We had a great four group and I took great pride myself in building the celebrity field. We tried to get five new celebrities a year to keep it fresh. Canelo came in, you know, we just, we did it. And getting, so then to fill that all the way and go to what we're doing now is tough. It's not been easy, but we know it and getting, so then to throw that all the way and go to what we're doing now is tough. It's not been easy, but, but we know it's the right thing to do. So what's your, what's your pitch? I guess what was your pitch to the celebrities when you're, when you're going to them and, you know, they're busy, they get asked to do a lot of things.

What's, what's the selling point from you to get them to play or get them to get them to play? To get them to play. To get them to play is it's the greatest, greatest amateur experience them to play. To get them to play is the greatest amateur experience in golf. There's nothing like it. You can't walk on Wrigley Field and jump on the outfield and catch balls, right? Can't go catch passes from Aaron Rodgers.

You can do it here. You can walk side by side as you did with great players. I mean, these guys are even the field we had last year. They're incredible. They're out here for a reason. They're pretty darn good. So that is an easy sell. We had guys call

us every, honestly, every week we get people reaching out celebrities, hey, can I play? And the committee looks at it and there's only so many spots. We had basically 22, 25, and then we'd have a few other notables like you to get us to about 30. Seat fillings. Right? And so it's not an easy ticket. And we really did, we tried to rotate, as I said, five. But it's hard to say no. When the signature event model is coming out, is this kind of a decision?

Did that, like, did you put your hand up immediately to say, like, this event should be in that? Or is that a decision that's made more at the AT&T sponsor level? Or kind of what was your role in making this become a signature event? Really clear. a decision that's made more like the AT&T sponsor level? Or kind of what was your role in making this become a signature event? Really clear, my role is to be a coordinator.

I don't make decisions. The tournament committee makes decisions. The board makes decisions. But what happened? When there was discussion of elevated, designated, and signature, it's obvious that Pebble Beach should be part of it. It's one of the greatest golf courses in the world.

And we deserve it because we're the most charitable organization in the world, and AT&T deserves it because they're the best title sponsor, 39 years with us. So when we heard that, we absolutely raised our hands and said we want to be part of it, the tour want to be part of it and AT&T want to be part of it. So collaborative decision, here's what we're going to do and this is how it's going to happen. And that's where it got difficult because we had cut the field and tremendously cut it back, make some changes some changes But again all for the right reasons How are we looking on the weather from?

Why'd you bring that up? And what does that do to your week? Like how does that make your week harder? You know I've done this now. I've had three really really bad years last year was horrendous 19 Sunday and Monday were two of the nicest That does that right? It just does that to you. Just to stick it your side. So 19 was a bad year. We had hail. Other than that, we've had great year. 2020 was the most incredible year. This is El Nino year.

We knew it coming into it. You can only do so much. The golf courses were in great shape coming in. We didn't have a ton of rain. So it can absorb a lot. I don't know if they can absorb, if they say three inches, which is who knows if that's the case. We're on the coast and we could get a high pressurepressure system or something to buffer it, move it left to

right, north or south. We hope that's the case in this situation. But everything's in place. Evacuations, as you well know, they're out there. We've had the same number of EVAC vans that we had with three golf courses, so we should be fine with two. And security, you know, our primary goal is to keep our fans secure and safe. So we get them off the course quickly as we've done in the past, we have the same plan. That's why there's nobody on the course today. It just didn't make sense to let anybody out there,

so it's just the players that wanna play, no spectators. We communicated that message out. We can't have anything happen. The wind's that high. And the weather's rolling through this afternoon. It's bad at three. weather's rolling through this afternoon. It's bad at three. It's what my latest report, which I get from a guy in Tahoe,

is most reliable. Is that it's three? He's gonna want to get in touch with that. He's a weather guy. I'm on the windy, I'm on the windy. I'm gonna send you the email. The guy's name is Robin Baggett. He's one of the greatest wine producers,

Alpha Omega Wine. This sounds like you got it. How are you not on this guy? I get my weather report from Robin Bagg. It's guys got a guy. I'll send it. I'll send it to you guys. It's it's it's bad. Yeah, three o'clock is bad.

It looks like it looks like a hurricane. Very red. It's gonna blow through quick. Yeah, it's gonna drop a lot of rain. They say it's gonna blow through quick. So tomorrow it's not going to be. It's not going to be hot and dusty anytime soon. But I think it's going to stabilize a little bit. That's what the,

that's what all the indicators are. Who, who in your celebrity experience, who took the golf the most seriously? Jake Owen. Really? That's, I mean, that's a quick answer. The guy that took it to another level as far as obsession is Macklemore. Really? The guy is obsessed with a game of golf. He came down when we had our, our 2021 year when we didn't have a program. We had a special day on Wednesday and I brought in, I think I brought six celebrities in. He was one of them.

He got here on Sunday. He played golf every single day. Played Wednesday, played Thursday. He was supposed to leave Thursday. He stayed all the way through Sunday. Played every single day. He's totally obsessed. But Jake Owens, Jake Owens is passionate about the game and we just had a we did have a collaborative event

with him on Sunday called the Hey Jake which is his foundation, our foundation and had nine pros play in the Hey at 72 degrees on Sunday, very nice. Jake is an incredibly giving guy. We split the pros he's the first two years and this year he said if you send me a check I'm sending it back. It's a $200,000 check, so it's not something like $5 check. But he's an incredible guy. What's something that the viewers at home may not know? A tournament director's job. What's something about your job that people may not know?

How a tournament comes together? You're going to clean toilets at some point in time. You're going to change the diaper. There's nothing too low. I mean, you do what you've got to do. You've going to change the diaper. There's nothing too low. You do what you've got to do. You've got to get it done. I'm so fortunate I've got a staff of 12 incredibly talented ladies. They keep me grounded. They're motivated, they're driven, they're hard working, they know what our role and responsibility truly is at the Foundation. It's about giving back and I love what I do. I enjoy it and and you just do what you got to do. You do everything.

You got to pick to win. It's got to be a mutter. So we're just gussing. I think, I mean, honestly, God, like Jordan Spieth, you need a veteran. I think you need a veteran. Guys, play to your bunch. And a guy that can deal with elements in a worry. Rory can deal with elements, but I don't know. I mean, I, it's, that feels so deep. Yeah. I, I, the beluga likes the, like that ranking over there. What's yours?

Yeah. We got the whole field, 80 to one. 81 to 81. We got a lot of time to kill. Wow. He's not in the field. And we have to find the person who's actually not. I bet you could do that. I could tell you he's not going to win.

Terrell Hatton. Yeah, that's true. He's not going to win. But. Don't like his chances. No, not good. I think Jordan, I really do. He's playing well.

You know what else? It doesn't play here at all. Justin Thomas, I think he actually, look at what he's done. Two and one. I think he's in the mother the mother category. I can't unsee that that year at The players max homa, California. Yeah, the California more cow was never played nor Cal guy I think you need to look at a nor Cal guy that's used to Poana and Compliant shit weather homo played really well when it was awful at TPC Avenue. There you go.

Wells Fargo moved there a couple of years ago. It's going to be going to get like that. Love it. And I'll pick the wrong guy. Well, I know your phone's probably blowing up just from spending 20 minutes with us. So thanks so much for spending some time. Thanks for having us out.

It's been a lot of fun. OK, thanks guys. Thank you very much. See you Steve. And it's tournament director Steve John here at the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am. We are welcoming the beluga back in. How about couple other pairings I wanted to shout out. Max homo playing with the guy that was in the background of our shot yesterday Ryan Lance. He's the head of Conoco Phillips. If you missed it

yesterday one of the all time great moments I I think, of the show was he was not hitting the goods. I don't think. I mean, you saw it in person. Good 90 minutes. He was putting the work in. And who was Stephen Yeager? Stephen Yeager was next to him doing the towel drill, where you pinched that elbow in.

And he was like, huh, that looks like an interesting drill. He started doing the towel drill. And then I think he realized he thought maybe he was on this he's like oh my god of my be in my camera it was sweet yeah Patrick Cantley playing with Egon Durbin mm-hmm which that might be you know just move 12 and kills some absolute deals does they perhaps they're out today playing a plan to practice around with DJ D'sall. Perhaps. Mav McNeely playing with Condi Rice.

Dr. Rice. I'm shocked that she's not interviewing for NFL front office or head coaching positions. Still in season. And then we've got, you know, in honor of our owner's podcast on the trap draw, we've got three owners or co-owners of professional sports franchises. We've got Coltricks Ryan Ryan Smith the owner of my Los jazz Take note. He's also you had take note. He's also in the process I think with with the NHL trying to bring a NHL team to Salt Lake City, which seems like a no-brainer, right? and then you've got Greg Penner, who is the one of the owners of the Denver Broncos, you

know, Fresh Rock. Broncos country. Probably going to cut Mr. Unlimited here soon. And then Josh Cronkey, who kind of the managing dude for a lot of teams. Yeah, Los Nuggets among them. So that's exciting. Thank you, TC. Do we want to continue with the big board? Do we want to get to some trivia? What do you guys want to do next?

Let's do a shot of the big board and then we'll do a big trip. Yeah, we're going 59 to 50 here. Mr. 59. So Mr. 59 is aptly named Adam Hadwin. How about that? I love it. And if you're just joining us, Neil is ranking the field from 81 to one, even though there's only 80 players. Paul McGinley says hello. Hello Paul. Patrick Rogers at 58. He just saw him. We

know he's here. I think Hadwin is going to punch above that 59th. Fair enough. I think Hadwin might be a mutter. Yeah, he's's Canadian guy. Yeah. Grayson Murray at 57. We saw him yesterday. We know he's here. Uh, one of TC's many boys, Nikolai Hoygard saw him. I think I'm selling on Hoygard this week. At 56. Corey Connors at 55. I wanted to put him higher. I feel like it's a decent course fit. He hasn't played sure here or maybe played once But it was back in I think 2018

Davis Riley Riley Davis at 54 don't really have a note for this one. Sure saw him Alex Noran at 53 And then Adam Svensson at 52 And then Adam Svensson at 52 Taylor Moore who was the first man on the range? No second guy on the range yesterday and today I'm really today too at 51. I just wants it. Oh, you know what? I think I figured out why I have 82 names. I have Adam had one twice Which one you know what Adam had one let's let's divide that by two Adam had one should be probably in the High 20s low, so we're gonna delete row 50 and that should

Sorry if our if our guy that's on the field is gonna be in the top 50. That's a tough look for the index Lucas Glover's been hitting balls for a solid Two hours stay tuned for that Team Rose has has come out on the range now. He's a massive team. Team Rose is five to six or seven people out there. And Jason Day just walked by. It's getting better.

Looking good. I like his fit today. It kind of looks like he's wearing some tweed pants again, which is great. To hook him, kind of. He looks comfortable. Yeah. That's like big checks.

Sergio collection. Guys, I prepared some very fun pebble beach trivia for you guys. And I would like to go through that if you guys are ready for it. Would you guys want to start with the trivia or we could do past winter or not past winter? Let's do past winter. Yeah, okay. I feel good about this. Okay. That's good to start with that because it'll help with some of the trivia as well. But Kevin Striegelman is he a past winner of of the Pel Beach program? He is not a past winner of the. Yes, a past winner.

No, he is not a past winner of the program. I got a shield. I'm not cheating. You know, you know, his best finish runner up in 2017. Mark Kalkovecchia. Yes, he is a past winner. Yeah, he is not a past. He's not. No, you didn't let me finish.

And it keeps saying yes. Just because it's Craig Stadler. Yes. Yes. I have a memory of this also not a pass. Please share. Just feel like the walrus out by the retaining well might be happy. Gilmore. Well, Kevin Stadler. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no a charger. We can only fit so much fucking gear in this trip. VJ saying has he won the 18th? He pel Beach Pro. I'm saying no. Yes, he has one. This is a tough look for the index.

David Duvall has he won the pel Beach Pro. No. Yes. Which one is it? T.C. Yes. Yes. No, he's a three time runner. Really? Yes. Marco Mira has he won the pel Beach Pro. Yes. Yes. Yes. Five, he's a three time runner up. Really? Yes. Marco Mira, has he won the Pel Beach Pro League? Yes.

Yes. Five times actually. Really? Yes. That's fun Chris. I was hoping somebody would say no. That's fun. That's fun.

Chris, that's fun. You and I can reminisce. A horse for the course. Jack Nicklaus. Yes. Yes. Yes. That is correct.

Ben Hogan. No. Yes. Yes. Yes. He has one Charlie we oh There were some bleak in a mix yeah, there were some bleak years I think yes, he did No Yes, no he did. Ah No, yes. No, he did. Ah Payne Stewart. Yes. Yes. Yes. That is correct Matt Gogol Did he lose to tie he was runner up to Tiger he was runner up to Tiger wasn't he it's good enough for me. I'm gonna say no

I'm gonna say yes. See I'm gonna say no You are right that he was runner up to Tiger, but wrong but he also won the Bell Beach Pro have Kevin Sutherland. No, no, I think he won the champions event here. No, no, no. It's classic. Yeah. Brett Ogle. Yes. Nineteen. Nineteen. Ninety three. You know why I know that? Because OJ Simpson played that year. You just learned that this week. I'm going to say yes based on that Intel. That is correct. Bradley Harris. Never heard of Bradley Harris. I'm going to say yes.

Otherwise, I don't know why you put him on the list. I made up that name. It's not even a real golf. No, he is not on the beach. Oh, okay. Seven courses have hosted the Pebble Beach Pro M. Can you name them all? Let's go slow. Go slow. Pebble Beach. M. Can you name them all? Let's go slow go slow pebble Beach

Got it spy glass poppy hills sloppy hills Cypress point Cypress point both the courses at Monterey Peninsula and PCC country is the Spanish Bay That's how Monta No This is a tough. This is a tough pull. This is I don't even know if this course still exists. Is it very old back in the day from the 30s and 40s? So it's not Del Monte Country Club or Del Monte? The answer is Rancho Santa Fe. Not the one that Phil will.

That's the seventh course that is hosted at Pebble Beach Pro Am. TC's already helped us with the next one. Tiger Woods ran down someone in a Monday finish the 2018 Pebble Beach Pro Am. Who was it? Mr. Gogol? That was Matt Gogol. Matt, don't call me Goggin Gogol.

Can you tell me what was unique about the 1996 Pebble Beach Pro Am? 96. It's gonna lead. Precat. It's gonna lead to an interesting fact about the 1998 Pebble Beach Pro Am. 96.

It was a 36 hole event. TC nailed it. It's canceled after 36 holes due to weather, but get this. I bet Dustin Johnson won that. In 1998, weather conditions prevented the tournament from being finished on schedule. Nine holes were played Thursday, nine on Friday, 18 Saturday, rain Sunday and Monday.

Do you remember what happens after that? The third round was delayed until when? Thursday. August to prevent cancellation similar to 96 so guys had to come back kind of like a baseball thing when like yeah okay it's 43 of 168 players with drew rather than to return for the final round in 1998 I'd never heard that and so they just got last place money I would assume or maybe they missed the cut I would assume they all colluded together to raise

the last place money. How many how many times has the tournament been shortened to 54 holes? Seven. Dustin Johnson's win. Won every single one of those tournaments. He's actually only one one that was shortened, I think. Really?

I'll say here. I'll say here. I guess he's one of the other ones here. Also Hawaii. Based on your reaction, I'll say eight. It is six. He's the answer. He won at the other ones there. Also Hawaii reaction. I'll say eight. It is six is the answer. I'm going to have to shorten.

Which you think would be maybe an indicator of like, could we. It's just not a great time. Could we find a different spot on the calendar? I know it's if we can go back and forth to Texas so much, maybe we can go back and forth to the West Coast a little more. Some of this is like, again, like not to be beat a dead horse, but I think a lot of it goes back to like the community thing is like, it probably started as like almost like a polar plunge vibe, right?

Where it's like, oh, you know, the weather sucks, but everybody loves getting out here. I did a polar plunge this year. Justine was deep in the polar plunge situation. 74 degrees outside though. Thank you for your service. T.C. to answer your question, DJ won it in 09, which is 54 holes.

He won the 11 Barclays, which was 54 holes, and won the 2013 Tournament of Champions, and it was 54 holes. That is three 54 hole wins. Is it not counting as live events? It is. There you go. I just miss him this week.

Like I think of Pebble, I think of DJ, whether it's the US Open or, you know, him winning here or just like he could always rock up here. And to me, that was showed that he was such a proper player iron wise and doesn't know, you know, he's not a bombing gouge guy. He's a proper player. The US Open meltdown is so underrated. Yeah.

Oh, we'll get there. So sick. Um, there is a live golfer, a current live golfer who finished runner-up at the 2002 pebble Pro-am Not named Phil Mickelson. Who was that? Lee Westwood That is not correct What come join us? I had. Okay. He won't be back. No, he won't be back.

I don't know. So I had first question. Are you a mutter? Yeah, he is a mutter. Confirm mutter. Here. Sit down for two minutes. I know you're going to go play.

Yeah, they go play. Where are you playing today? What happened? I'm going to play Where you playing today? I'm gonna play and you go hop on ten on pebble ten on pebble. Yeah, have you been out here? You played out here. Yes played two years ago. I played the USM here Should took a trip here like two weeks ago get some reps in because I've never played well here So what's the key? What's the what? What did you learn in that trip?

Or what did you take from that like this is what I got to do better out here so like I've always thought I've I've always played really well in small greens with pebble being the exception and I've realized like a lot of the shots into pebble for some reason are like kind of chippy dry shots I don't know it's just if I'm it's where I'm hitting it off the tee or I literally went through hole-by-hole I'm like I have a lot of like smooth draws and a lot of these smooth draws are off of left to right slopes and one of the big things me and my coach have worked on is not trying to hit draws off

left to right slopes just because of the way my swing is I get the heel stuck and I hit like a flip hook So yeah, just trying to find ways to combat that interest. I'm hitting like this flighty Chippy slice off these lies now Yeah, I feel like that's something you don't really notice But there's a ton of slopes left to right on a lot of holes. 1315 right to left, but a lot of the other ones. It's like So yeah, historically I've missed a lot of greens long left, which is can't miss long at pebble. That's interesting What about spyglass any experience out there? Yeah, and Was it contred? I don't know the word not good about cab contra-addictively

Contra-ed whatever.'t know the word. Not good at vocab, Contraed Dictoli? Contraed? Whatever. Sure. We got what you were saying. I've played really well at Spy, even though it feels very similar to Pebble. I think I shot four under two years ago at Spy, and then played well there during the AM.

I don't really know why. I just really think. It's an awesome golf course It's a hell of a course and I guess they're playing I Could be wrong on this but like a US senior open there soon 2030 or something. Oh, I did not know that who's your amateur partner this week. Do you know? Adobe yeah, see you can get some deals done. Oh, yeah, I got it looks like we already got a deal Can you get some deals done? Oh, it looks like we already got a deal done.

Send him our regards. We use Photoshop and Premiere Pro. We use his suite of products. We're moving away from Premiere Pro. Don't tell him this. Maybe don't tell him this. This shoulder. You should have brought yourself up.

Our boys all grown up. Kind of back. I know. I'm trying to get a little risk, Kari. I'm close. Well, thanks for having me. Thanks for having me. We appreciate it.

Have a good week, man. We still have our trivia question here, which is there's a live golfer who finished runner up at the 2002 Pebble Beach Pro. I am not named Phil Mickelson, who is it? It was not Lee Westwood. Richard Bland. This is, speaks to his longevity, man.

We've talked about his longevity. Kalev Sirot. A lot. Before he left for live, this dude kept his card for 23 straight years or something like that. This is speaks to his longevity, man. We've talked about his longevity kills her a lot before he left for live. This dude kept his card for 23 straight years or something like Charles how the third? No, that's a good guess. That's a really good guess. That's not right. Oh, boy, this one just got me, man. Pat Perez. Oh, yeah. That was like one of his rookie years, too. He was a rookie in what, like 99 or 2000. Is this where he threw the club in the ocean on 18? On 18. On that note, there is a there's a player at the 1992 US

Open not Pat Perez that threw a putter into the ocean. Who was it? 1992. Yeah. I'm going to say Jerry paid the volcano. We've talked about this guy a lot as being a huge personality that we need to do a deep dive on. Oh, Raymond Floyd. Close, but no.

Big master's story. We did it on him a couple of years ago. Drinking a beer at the Masters with the King. Got in trouble. Got a letter from Augusta. Ken Green is the answer to that one. Sure. A three-time NCAA champion played in his first tournament

as a pro with the 1992 US Open missed the cut with a 68 81 that is correct You finished with flair on Friday using a driver to hit the ball 270 yards from the fairway onto the 18th green and to put it for Bertie Head nods walking up that fairway three time NCAA champions. That's a sick. That's a unique flex Yeah, I'm see a lot of those. Ernie L's finished runner-up to Tiger in 2000 alongside another player. It was a European.

Who finished second? I know this. Alex Chaca. He's got three names. Jose Maria Olfable. Per Ulrich Johansson. Miguel Anel Emineth. Is Per Ulrich Johansson a speed skater or a golfer?

I remember that I remember having as being That weren't those two over par and Tiger's the only one under par. I think so. Yeah I think Tiger was 12 under maybe Yeah, they were all like three over a What a Dustin Johnson shoot in the final round of the 2010 US Open 82 that is correct What could DJ have shot and still won the US Open? 78 76 Triple the second hole doubled triple the second and doubled the third I believe well

I had a chippy like swung right underneath question that one he tried to play it was just not for you guys as a Uneligible golf fan at the time that was a first my first experience with Dustin Johnson Was that yours or did was he doing stuff before that he had won the one the turning stone or was he doing stuff before that? He had won the turning stone. The bumper classic or the turning stone? He won the turning stone. That was like, oh, eight, maybe. Okay. Cause I'd never heard of him. I remember that. I was like, who is this guy? He's doing work at coastal Carolina before that. He was probably like, I'm trying to think who a good comp would be for him now. Like,

honestly, maybe saw his a little bit. Like probably wasn't quite the same like fanfare around the PGA tour. Everybody's been growing the game so much, but I think like a guy that everybody was kind of like, Oh yeah, that's like the real ones knew that guy's the dude's Alatoris. Yeah. But that was the first like one much earlier. Big major stage, like, okay, let's see if he can do it type of thing. Yeah. I'm going to go recruit some, some players. I'll let you out on the last question, which is what year was the first million dollar winner at the Pelvic Pro am? Well, you're the first million dollar. No. No. Yeah, that wouldn't make sense. Would

it? What's the answer? I'm hearing 1989 We're just a million dollar winner. I want a guy made a million dollars Yeah, I feel like They're ahead of the block who was the first guy to Curtis strange was the first guy to make a million dollars on tour in a season in a season Which was in the late 80s. I thought season in a season which was in the late 80s I thought Pebble Beach maybe that's a million dollar purse yeah that feels we might

have to get a massive apology from me on that one should we go back to the beluga's big board sure get happy to so we're going 49 to 40 here we have biong hunn and Ben on Ben on Ben on it's okay don't beat yourself up man tough I feel like he might have a lot on his mind. Oh, you might be getting kicked out. Oh Yeah Who's coming to say hi? Oh potentially Lucas potential mutter I've got 48 I've got shameless power plays well here. So this one could burn me as well But very Irish weather going on. Yeah, so I feel like he might have some mudder tendencies.

47, we got Brandon Woo. The Mr. Hat. Mr. Hat, senior hat. 46, we have a past winner, Mr. Matt Koucher. That sent him up my big board. Real quick, 2008 was the first million dollar winner. Can you tell me who that was? Phil Mickelson? Steve Lowry. Oh me who that was. Mickelson Steve Lowry.

Who beat my car. I'm not my playoff at minus 10. It's all you. You also may have called for million dollar winner. Massive typo was 2008 million dollar purse. Let me run through these last few and then I'll get out of here. Chris Kirk at 45 Tom Hogue at 44 Harris English at 43 Cam young at 42 web Simpson at 41 Wow, how about that congratulations? You're in his top 40 for this way my top 40 on my big board

Well, I have a some on it. Come on in welcoming in Lucas Glover and Neil is ranking the top the top 80 players in the field and he's not he's going starting from the bottom And he's not named you just yet. I noticed he took the computer away. Yeah, he does what he wants. They're proprietary models. Well, there's 81 through 120 for the rest of the week. Lucas, first question for you. What are you reading right now?

I took my question. Ken Follett's newest one. I haven't, I don't remember the name, I'm only a chapter in, so. I haven't, I think it might be Fallen, I think it might be the name of I'm only a chapter in. So haven't, I think it might be Fallen, I think it might be the name of it, but one chapter in. Do you alternate fiction, nonfiction, what do you? Yeah, I try to read like two books that actually have some substance to one that doesn't.

Yeah, that's a good rule. Like all those airport books, you grab them, you read them on the first flight and you're done. But no, Follett's kind of my guy lately. I've been on him for a few years now and he's good stuff. Historical fiction mostly. Any recommendations from lately?

Like, best book you read last year? I reread my favorite book, Pillars of the Earth, which is Ken Follett. I would suggest that one to anyone that has, you know, like 10 months to read a book, because it's like 1200 pages. I didn't finish. Lay of Mizorado.

Exactly. I got out for Christmas. I'm pretty excited. I've seen the play. But I got to get the right translation. That's a good point. Very good point. That'll fit in great with my 12% book completion rate.

Yeah. Made a list. I was like, what am I going to read now? And then, oh yeah, that's hard to have a 10 year old and eight year old reading thing. It goes away quick. So you, this, you had this hot streak last year and you're in the middle.

You're winning golf tournaments left and right. Are you in that moment? Are you doing something like, all right, can I jot down every thought and feel I have right now so I could channel this for the rest of my career? Are you aware of how crazy this hot streak is while it's happening? No, it was more like don't do anything outside of what

you're doing to maybe mess it up. And then reflect later. It was one of those, I was still working hard, but I was like, I'm not going to really just keep working on that stuff, keep doing that stuff. It's working and just go from there. And then we see how fickle golf is. I take a few weeks off after Atlanta and like, man,

what was I doing? Were you pretty worn down? Yeah, yeah, I got to Chicago there for BMW and I played, I'm never playing a practice round and just being like, who I'm beat. And then pro AM and it was just, yeah, I was, I was pretty beat up by the time I got there. It was like eight out of nine weeks and a bunch of weekends and contention and mentally as much as physically it just wears on you. When could you feel it coming? Like, did you feel something click and know you were on the, on the edge of of weekends and contention and mentally as much as physically it just wears on you.

When could you feel it coming? Like did you feel something click and know you were on the edge of something or is it truly like a the puth start to go in and you know? Well for me that was it. As everyone knows you know soon as I got confident in the broom putter making my short ones I was like alright now I can be a little more aggressive on a 10 footer. Now I can be a little more aggressive on a 20 footer. So now I can make a few of them and I'm not freaking out about missing the two footer coming back.

You know, honestly, that's that's a lot of it. I didn't hit it any different. My short game was nice and I just started making making making my short ones, confidence grew. And thus can be more aggressive with all parts of your game. And that was honestly it. Yeah. What was what was kind of the of the, had you tried the broom at all at any other point in your career? No, no, I never did.

I did some arm lock. Played nice and 21 with the arm lock, 19 as well. And I was down last spring when I went to the broom, it was that or left handed. I was going that drastic. And I just happened to pick the broom up first, honestly. I had some left handed putters on order and some brooms on order, I grabbed it first.

Wow. And uh. I've done the left handed putter before bro. Actually it was good. Nice. I played left handed for a while, but then when I went back to right handed I still putted left handed for a while.

Totally took my right hand out of it. My right hand was trying to take over the stroke. Interesting, interesting. I could see that. But for me, it was just, I had to do something just for a complete new brain function, complete new motor skill. It was so bad with a short standard conventional way.

Just a lot of scar tissue up there too. Well, exactly right. I'll say explain that, right? Because you know, watch on TV, you're like, just put it in the hole, man. But brain function is a thing. up there too. Yeah, that's exactly right. I'll say explain that, right? Because you know, watch on TV, you're like, just put it in the hole, man. But brain function is a thing. Yeah, brain. And then I've talked a lot about Jason Kuhn, the seal that's helped me

the last year or last year or so. And that was his thing is he finally explained to me, he goes, dude, this has got nothing to do with being mentally weak. This is like a thing. It's like an injury. Yeah. And we're and I was in a bit of a unique situation because I'm having to play to keep my job at the time and he goes, look, we're gonna have to work through this faster

than I would like while you're doing it. And in the middle of a lot of his time and lessons with me, I switched putters and he goes, I wasn't gonna mention it because I don't know enough about golf. He goes, but there's no way this can be bad. He goes, this is like reteaching yourself something you know how to do, but in a completely different way. He goes, you know, you've been putting since you were three years old. He goes, you still know how to read the greens. You still know how to roll the ball, but we're going to do it in a completely different way. And he didn't necessarily care. I did it, but he said, this can't hurt.

I was basically just using something different to do something I've done my whole life. And I had to reteach myself how to stroke that method. And so just a complete new brain function or motor skill, and it clicked. It worked. Any history for you here, Pebble? complete new brain function and it or motor skill and it just it clicked it worked. Any history for you here at Pebble? Played nice here a few years back. I think I don't know six or seventh and my partner and I finished fourth or fifth. I was more excited for him than that just because it's such a big deal for the Ams to play well. And he's and he was

a friend and became a good friend. And, uh, um, so new partner this week. So I look forward to, uh, hopefully he plays well. I'm sure you're going to be asked 50 times today, but no golf, no new deal, no new, uh, strategic deal. Oh, sure. Yeah. I got you. No worries. Yeah. I don't want to, I don't want to spew knowledge that I don't know about. Totally. So that's the right line to Chris on the way. Yeah, I need to read up this afternoon. Yeah when the weather gets nice I mean awful

You can make a whole career out of not reading up on things. Yeah, don't let that stop you How do you like that? Yeah, it's great. Yeah, I'm doing that I'm like, yeah, I'm just going to say stuff and see how it goes. And if I get any repercussions, maybe it was the wrong. Sure, exactly. Then you can dial it in from there. Yeah. Are you a mother?

Are you like, are you? He won the US in the 2000. I know. I'm trying to lead the shit. Resmee speaks for a while. Yeah, I don't mind it. I think it levels the playing field a little bit, a lot, maybe.

And yeah, I don't mind seeing wind up, and I don't mind fighting the ball and moving it around. You've got to do that around here a little anyway, just with the slopes and the way the golf course is set up. But yeah, I think it just kind of brings everybody back when it's bad. Is pebble, it's going to be kind of a weird, I never thought about that, but it's kind of the end

of your US open range, right? Coming back here and and yeah the next year was you know the cycle started over. What was that like? I could bring the trophy. Yeah, exactly Now it was cool. We were talking some guys earlier We had a different driving range and we were reminiscing it was up the hill a little bit and then it remembered I was like that's where I had to bring this had to wheel this the metal travel bag in with the, I don't know what you call it, with the trophy in it. Now that you're mentioning that, I like that a lot.

But. You're no glove, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like, do guys come up to you and they're like, I don't know how you do it. Like they got their ring gloves on and all that. Yeah, they're like, well, what about when it rains? I said, well, you know, I wipe my hands off and I got cord grips.

You don't do the moistest aloof pee on your hands. No, I never do that. I can see that being effective. It depends on your diet. How sticky you can be. Very true. All right, we'll send you on your way. We appreciate you stopping by on your way from the rain chair,

getting some practice in. Thanks for having me. Yeah, you bet. Anytime. And we'll be seeing you on your show here as well. Thanks. Appreciate it. Thanks, Lucas. Thanks, Lucas. Yeah, you bet. Anytime. And we'll be seeing you on your show here as well. Thanks. I appreciate it. Thanks, Lucas.

See you in a minute. All time. One of the all time good guys here on the PGA tour, Lucas Glover, if I may say. But welcoming them Beluga back in. Where are we at on the big board? Do we want to keep going? Do we need to double click on any of those 69 through 60

or 59 through 50? 59 through 40. Sorry, 49 through 40. We're moving through this. We're moving quick. We're moving fast and breaking stuff had some past winners in this in this set with with mr. Hogi with mr. Hodge so we're to 30 that's really starting to work we're at 39 now we are at 39 yeah okay would you like me to continue yeah please at 39, I sense a respawning.

Mr. JJ Spawn. I think I saw him right over there. I think you're overranking him. And possibly underranking Hoge. Potentially. I have a lot of it. Mr. Hoge. Sahith at 38, Sepshtraka at 37.

I mean, you heard it from Sahith himself. He doesn't play well here like he likes it though I mean he was saying he's like struggling with the the hook off of the lie hanging lies He literally from the horse's mouth. He's you can tell he's been focused on hey. I want to play well here This is an important tournament to me Sure, and we take that strokes gain heart and attitude into account But you know past history also factors into the big board. Yeah. And so he is where he is. He's 38th. My college football number.

There you go. He's off the tee here. You know what really fascinated me was your coach's attitude about numbers. You told me that in Australia, but if you asked to change numbers. Yeah. Shout out to Norris Wilson. If you asked to change numbers, it probably meant you were going to lose playing time. Just like Steve John was saying. You can't request a partner. No, I really enjoyed that that. Which is tough because I got the anonymous number 38 and stuck with it for four years. He plays. Are we on 38 right now? That was

what it was. And then set this 37. Keith Mitchell at 36 moved up 12 spots due to being the first man on the range. Just want that noted that he climbed the big board late. He loves this. He's working hard. Then we have 35. We have Richard Flower, Mr. Ricky Fowler. Seems kind of low.

Or kind of. I feel like that's good. That's good. I like that. We have Young Tom Kim, 33. Could be a really good like big good time. Kim, of course, you know, iron play. There's a lot of good players in the field.

33. I have Maverick McNeely his finishes here are really good. Really, really good. So I'm his form, maybe not so much coming off of medical, but it feels like good vibes only. We may hear from him in a little bit. We can ask, we can ask him that may impact the big board. Yeah. If news comes in late, you're not locking these rankings. When did they get locked with the

first T-ball goes in here? I mean, I guess I could. If anybody's interested, you should post on our website. 32 JT post in high ball hitter going to be Wendy. I don't know if I love it. 31 I have Ricky Fowler again. So I may have switched the name and forgot about. So we have to figure out. Absolutely.

Box. Somebody's missing from the field list. Yeah, I have potentially here. Potentially. I don't know. Things are in flux. We're moving things around on a big board. Sometimes typos have. And people know I have typo issues.

And then 30, another horse for the course. Who is it? T.C. Mr. Pebble Beach himself. Peter Mulnaudy. Yes. Peter Mulnaudy coming in at 30. There you have. You missed a pretty volatile section there. There's some interesting ones. Yeah. I think Sawtheth is saw is saw hit the 38. He waited until he left. I think Tom Hogi at 40 is interesting. We still haven't seen you.

He was at 44 or sorry. We still haven't seen Lucas. What? Really? Yeah. Then Hogi might be in there twice. No, he's at 44. I thought he was like 38 or 39. Cause I went through, I said pass winners were in the four and kind of couple of pass winners in the forties. Still haven't seen Lucas again. So I said himself that like yo, I just don't really play Well, I also can just like he fights the driver and he doesn't have to hit that many drivers here Hmm. This is true. Lucas Glover might move up with that lay Miz rec. No, he did

I just did it The right translation exactly talking to me 246 oh the right translation. Exactly. Talking to him is a little bit too far. So he's a lot of these caught some flak for the sponsor exemption. I will say like, if there's anybody that's like better at doing this, like glad handing and just being a positive energy in an amateur setting, it's probably Peter Monati and he supported the hell out of this, this tournament in the past. And I, you know,

I feel like they've, they've, they've rewarded guys who have come here in the past and, tournament in the past. And I feel like they've rewarded guys who have come here in the past and supported the event. Some of those guys happen to be PGA Tour Policy Board members. And also, those guys are working about as hard as you can to the point where it's probably detracting from their games. We've seen some of them walking up and down the range on their AirPods this week.

I think there's been a lot of phone calls. There's a lot of guys on the phone. You can tell who's on the phone about like something important. Yeah. There's a lot of guys that are like, that looks like he doesn't want to be on the phone. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of players on the phone. It's a lot of support staff on the phone. Like a lot of the policy board members are on the phone. The guys that are on the phone, it's like, okay, they're obviously it's important. The sponsor stuff too is connecting. It changes everything. Yeah. The not having the policy

board members here is would have been weird too. At the same time, it's a $20 million person. If you're a player who's playing really good, I also would be justifiably upset if you saw how those were given. So it's, I think for choose, choose your, choose your adventure. If you want to be mad or not, they're all going to get scrutinized this year. Right. And I think when we look back at the whole year, if the, if the only policy board members are getting all the budget exemption, that is probably something to double click on. At the same time,

I think when you zoom out for all of these, I find it a little bit insane that Gary Woodland's not in the field. Tough seeing a big picture of him in the tap room yesterday. And be like, God, no, sorry, you're not, not in the field. It's, a big picture of him in the tap room yesterday. Me like, Oh, no, sorry. You're not not in the field. It's tough. It is tough, but, um, I mean, it's almost the easier if they just didn't have sponsor exemptions into these signature events, but also business of golf.

Man, Tiger, Tiger, Tiger, any event he wants to for the, for, for all of time, probably welcoming in a guest here, hopefully in the next five minutes or so. Things are fluid out here on the range here at the 18th. They're getting chilly. They might get very fluid at about three p.m. You got those mittens. I do. You want them? Yeah, I'd love. You got two pairs of gloves? Yeah. This whole time sitting on the mittens. I thought Lucas was going to steal my mittens. The wind gusts are getting getting up there a little bit out there. There's a little little cloud formation.

As soon as you step out there, you start to see the maybe a little bit out there. There's a little cloud formation. As soon as you step out there, you start to see maybe a little something coming in. I'm not seeing a whole lot of amateurs on the range today. I'm wondering if they're taking things seriously. Are they mutters? That is the question we have right here. PaulTrix Ryan said he was going to come on the show today. Haven't seen him.

A lot of a, yeah, I'll catch you on my way back. Sure. We greatly, talking to Lucas Glover always just puts me in a great mood. Sure. We've had, we greatly, Luke's Club, talking to Luke's Club always just puts me in a great mood. He just got that big, booming Southern voice, one of the one of golf's great, great talkers. You ever been on the, yeah, no laying up live show? No, what I want to.

That I want to. Never done it. I didn't want to. He sounded so gassed when he's recounting like his, his last season, which I, you know, could have said this to his face, I guess, but it makes me feel better about the Ryder Cup pick. Yeah.

That he was like, yeah, I don't know if that was like the guy that would have made the, the difference in, in those six points or whatever, but yeah, I couldn't have made it worse. Probably couldn't have made it worse. That's, that's a fair point too. Shout out to Zach. Again, just a perpetual Shout out to Zach. Again, just a perpetual shout out to Zach.

Great job, man. That did not go great. Why don't we run? We have, we debuted this yesterday, but for those that maybe didn't catch it and catch all the live show yesterday, we of course just took a recent trip to Australia. And we have a little bit of a preview.

This will be season nine of Torah Sauce, which will a recent trip to Australia. And we have a little bit of a preview that this will be season nine of Torosauce, which will be out later this spring. But our guy, DJ, got in the lab and made a cut of some highlight clips from our trip to Australia, a bit of a trailer for that. So we'll play that now, and we'll probably have a guest popping in shortly after that. And we are back here live at the range at the AT&T

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One minute early, Maverick McNeely joining the show. How are you, Maverick? I'm good, can't miss your tea time the show. How are you, Maverick? We're going to have you. These mics are going to need you to be right up as close as possible here. But how's the week been so far? It's been great.

I mean, Pebble Beach, we had three days with short sleeves. And I said, there's nowhere better than Pebble Beach with short sleeves. And it's good to see you guys. Likewise. It's been a while. Yeah. First question, would you fly today?

I would not fly today. I'm a big chicken when it comes to conditions. Yeah, there's no reason to take on risk for that, but I'll leave that up to the professionals. Congratulations, by the way. Thank you. What is it? It's a big deal.

I mean, I had a big five months off. I got my pilot's license, my instrument rating. I got engaged and married kind of all in the last year, since the last time I was here since the last time we saw you definitely well congratulations on all that all those things what are these life Well, how does life changes all like that? How does it how does it have an effect on your your golf career? Like what what does it change it changes things? What does it change? So so people really think that we try and be a different guy inside of the ropes and outside of the ropes

But it's really just a piece of string like you really carry yourself Inside the ropes and you know it really feels nice to you know have flying be something that saves me time and and It's fun and kind of a release and a de-stressor now as opposed to stressing through check rides and stuff and you know having a personal life the best it's ever been and You know all settled in Vegas finally kicked my brothers out of the house. So that's a big life update too. But it's been really good and I've been really excited to be able to be back and healthy and fully able to focus on my golf game again.

And at time off really made me realize how much I missed a lot of aspects of the PGA Tour. You feel, strike me as a very high functioning guy and pretty much anything you pick up, was that the case in flying? And I'm curious if or if not, like what it was like to be a beginner at something for you. So I really liked it,

but flying's not something you want to be average at. Right, yeah. You know, I, like I said, if I haven't flown in a while, I'll take an instructor. I'll just take an instructor and go make it a fun learning experience. I'm not going to stress and push myself into conditions that I'm not comfortable with. But it was fun.

It was, I'll be honest, I was way more interested in studying for all that stuff than anything I did in school. Partly because it's really interesting and partly because it keeps me alive. But it's it's it's really cool. It's fun when When I'm up flying, I don't think of anything else. And you know, my coaches for years have been telling me that I need to find a hobby outside of golf. Something that I do other than golf and sleep. And I finally did. Will you fly from tournaments to tournament?

No, it's a lot to rent a plane for a whole week and they charge you two hours a day that you have it. So it wouldn't really make sense. Plus, I don't really want to stake being prepared for my job on the weather or my... And it's kind of nice to take a nap while someone else does the flying. But it was fun. I had a day off a couple of weeks ago and took an instructor. We went down to SoCal, got some fish tacos, and went back as a training flight. And it was just the best day ever away from golf.

I remember talking to Morgan Hoffman, who flies as well. And the story that blew my mind was like, some nights we're just like, yeah, we'll jump down, we'll fly down to Key West and get some Key Line Pie and then fly home. It's like, oh gosh, when you fly yourself, it's kind of- Shout out to Mr. Palmer. In the aviation world, they call it the $100 hamburger.

They hop into a plane, fly, and have a hamburger, and it costs you $100. Were you always an aviation enthusiast? So I mean, the name Top Gun, like, yeah, a little bit. That was my favorite movie when I was five. I named our first cat airplane. And then I think I got kind of wrapped up in ice hockey and golf and kind of forgot about airplanes.

And then I call him Uncle George. It was George McNeil that really sparked my interest in aviation again. I was going to the 3M championship in Minnesota, I think this is almost a year and a half ago now, and I was driving into the course and this little Cessna 172 flew right over my head as I was driving into the course. I go that, that looks like fun And I was paired with Uncle George that day and peppered in with questions about what it takes to get your pilot's license and had a rain delay. Kept asking him questions.

And that was kind of when I decided to think this is something I want to look into. George sounds like an interesting guy. He is one of the coolest people I've ever met. Cook, yeah. I mean, if I have like one-tenth of his coolness, it'd be amazing. No chance.

Can you take us in kind of the timeline of your injury? And for people that listen, a lot of guys keep track of out here. And I'm sure listeners at home probably don't have it off the top of their head what exactly what happened and kind of your return from injury and what that's been like trying to find in your form again after that. So it's been a year. Basically this tournament last year is when I tore the ligament that connects the sternum and collarbone. I did it in the

second round at Monterrey Peninsula. I barely finished that round. I tried to play again on Saturday and made it about nine holes. I thought it was gonna be okay. I tried to tee it up again the following week at Waste Management. I had to withdraw again. I ended up taking a couple weeks off, tried to play through it, through the Canadian Open, and it just got progressively worse. I wasn't able to practice as much as I wanted to, and that's when I kind of took a step back and said, okay, what are my main goals here?

I want to have full status to start the 2024 season. I want to be fully healthy. And so when I kind of learned it was just stuff that I was working on, actually on this driving range without consulting any swing coach that kind of caused me to get in a position to hurt myself. Basically I was getting super steep, body club, head of the ball and everything

and would have to shallow really hard late and there was an hour wait on the seventh tee at Monter Peninsula. And there was an hour wait on the 70 at Monterre Peninsula. And I made a really stuck hard swing, trying to muscle a six iron. And that's about four holes later. It felt like a knife was in my collar bone. So, you know, kind of take all that together.

I decided that I needed to take the major medical so that I would be guaranteed starts this year, get healthy and clean up that golf swing and kind of accomplish all three of those goals. We had Max Homa on the show yesterday and TC was comparing a lot of his golf game to Max. That actually sounds a lot more like it's relatable. I shallows myself out a lot. We're actually working on the same things right now. Yeah, there you go. I like it. Growing up in the Bay Area, like, did you play pebble growing up?

There seems to be a comfort level here with this course. Is that game related or is that experience related? I absolutely love pebble. This place is so special to me. I played way more rounds at the Peter Hay because it was free if you were under 12 and my dad would drop me and my brothers off, and we'd play there. And the first time I played pebble

was for my 16th birthday. It was my 16th birthday present. And there's just a comfort level on the West Coast with poa grass. I mean, I love when it gets a little bumpy and a little dicey. It becomes a speed contest. And that's the way I look at it. You've got to play the most amount of break you can

and dye it in there with the least amount of speed. And I spend more than half of my practice time putting, working on speed. So I think it plays into my advantage. But yeah, this is just, this grass feels like home. I come home and I don't have to learn how to chip out of the different lies, how to pitch, how the ball reacts. It just, it feels natural to me. What's been the biggest opposite to that on tour?

You've played a lot of different places now. What, what do you show up and you just feel kind of backwards at? Those greens at Bay Hill when you see dormant. All kinds of different colors going everywhere. Yeah, I wipe out. Half the time I try and fix a pitch mark, but putter shoots out. But yeah, I would say that a place like Sea Island,

you look at that leaderboard. I think Ryan Moore was the only guy in the top 20 that lived west of the Mississippi for a little bit there. And then you come out to a place like Sea Island. You look at that leaderboard. I think Ryan Moore was the only guy in the top 20 that lived west of the Mississippi for a little bit there and then you come out to a place like this it's the exact opposite. So I would say Sea Island's about as far away from my comfort zone as you can get and this is about as far in as you can be. How tough is it for guys who haven't played here before, Pesa plays an issue. It's cold. It's windy. He said, you know, an hour wait on 1T, you know, last year. Like how do you mentally prepare for that? You just make conversation with

the AMS. It's an all attitude thing, right? My partner this week is Dr. Condoleezza Rice. Like, there's a lot of questions I want to be asking her about the state of the world right now. I think it's going to be fascinating. Another Stanford Cardinal. It's a day at Powell Beach. I mean it doesn't get much better. We're on the PJ Tour. You have to keep that all in perspective. You can fight with everything. I think this is a little bit of perspective for my time off. I love being outside for five, six hours a day. I love walking five miles a day. I don't feel the same if I don't and I get to play on the best tour in the world,

and I love my job. So, I mean, yeah, it's going to be a long day. We might get some weather and conditions, but I wouldn't rather be anywhere else. You, on that note, you're playing with Dr. Condoleezza Rice this week. You are, can you explain kind of your role, you're on the pack, and you're running for chairman of the pack, currently voting in in a few weeks, do I have that right?

No, so I was last year. This year I'm stepping back and letting the experts do it a little bit. What did you learn? What did you see in that that makes you want to step back? It's a lot of time. I have a whole new respect for what those guys on the policy board are doing. You know at the end of the day you have to play good golf and for those guys to stick their necks out and get involved in some really complicated conversations while trying to be husbands and fathers and you know golfers and golfers yeah I mean there's a lot they're juggling and you know the way I'm looking at it right now is is the

next couple years no matter what direction the tour goes are the most important to really play my way into the better players group, or however you want to label it. And I just really want to focus on all golf and my team and my family and double down on that. So again, hats off to all the guys doing that, but I just really want to focus on golf right now. You mentioned someone mentioning to you you needed a hobby outside of golf. I'm curious

when you're injured and you can't play. Did that come to a head and how did you spend your time? Yeah, I mean I spent a lot of time, it's funny because my wife works in the PT clinic that I've been training at for the last three years so it perks the job right now. But no, I spent a lot of time in there rehabbing and working out. I was in there probably 15, 16 hours a week and I probably spent about 20 hours a week

just doing like the boring two pound weights and stretching and whatever else I needed to do. So huge thanks to all those guys for helping me through. And then I go and basically have to work to like a three out of ten discomfort with my golf swing every day. So it was one of those things where as the joint healed, I wanted it to heal and be strong in the way that I wanted it to move when I'm fully full power. So you know, three days I had a PRP injection in my SC joint to kind of

aid the recovery process. So two days after, as soon as I felt like I could hold the club, I was out there pushing it to a three out of ten. So day one, that was 20 golf balls from like knee to knee with an eight iron. And you just slowly built that up to one bag, two bags of balls. You know, the day that I hit 170 miles an hour in driver's speed, I was pumped. That was about three and a half months into the recovery. The day I hit 170 in my future life,

I'm going to be dead for as well. Nice. Nice. Well, Tori, last week, you play yourself into contention. And the shot I feel like I saw a couple of times, like, what's the trust level like now when going after a ball out of thick, rough like that? I imagine that's the exact kind of shot that all the stuff you're describing,

I'm like, dude, I saw him absolutely taking one out of the rough last week. Well, it's actually this going from a shallow position at the top of the backswing to steeper into the ball, helped me out of the rough. Because when I get the shoulder working down and around it decompresses the joint that I hurt when I get it working up and in not only is shallow at the ball bad out of the rough but contact so and the other thing is back to hitting cuts for the first time

in like eight years and same thing swinging left it you're working on that Yeah, see, eradicated the left miss last year. You guys need to spend some time together. I really want to get my pilot's license. Seriously. Oh, man. Yeah, do you want to interview TC about his golf game at all? Yeah, I love it. When you came out as a 16-year-old, what was your... Do you have an indelible memory or shot or anything that you hit out of Pebble?

I mean, I think I played the tips and it was the week before the Champions Tour event out here and I shot 75 and I was pumped. It was a pretty big deal for me But you know, I mean the seventh hole pull out all the phones take the videos It's you know, it's it's a special place like to this day. I get so excited stepping up on that first tee box It's it's such a treat to play this place And you know if anyone gets the chance to play it on a sunny short sleeve day, it is literally a bucket list item.

Any reaction, I know it just kind of rolled out today, but were you a part of the call this morning? Did you listen into the call this morning? What did you learn and what's kind of your reaction to how things are unfolding on the PGA Tour? I did listen to the call, but I feel like the media knows more than us. You know, I just, like I said, there's a lot of people that know a lot more about this stuff than I do.

And I trust, I'm a very optimistic guy. I trust that they're doing the right thing and they're making the right decisions. And you know, from the surface, I think giving the players an ownership stake in the PGA tour, you know, it's really our job to grow this business and it's really cool that we now have a part of it. However, that's going to look, I'm not sure, but I think there are some programs in the past that the Tour was trying to get us more involved and take more of an ownership in growing our business here. But now that it's set in stone, hopefully more guys are gonna do the things that really separate us

in our tour, like playing, say it's a Monday Pro Am, or doing a few extra things for sponsors, visiting tents, really making sure that the fans are in the media. Forcefully stopping by the live shows, yeah. Yes. No, but I think a lot of the times in these conversations, it's lost, all the players, we start thinking about the players, but

we're really one of four things that holds up this tour. It's the sponsors, it's the players, it's the media, and it's the fans. And all four of those have to be happy for us to do our best. It's really interesting. It's kind of like the more I've thought about this whole thing and the role as independent contractors and having no equity stake. And yeah, you are members and you kind of signed this thing like we're only going to play golf here except for waivers.

But you get injured, you start playing poorly. All of a sudden, like, you know, you don't have a place to play and kind of, yeah, what you just described there is super interesting in that regard. So the whole independent contractor thing, I think that's kind of going out the window. It's looking a little different now. But like I said, I love the PJ tour. I, uh, I hope a lot of the amazing things that separate us and that we stand for still happen. And, um, you know, I love, I love playing golf for a living.

We're going to talk favorite pebble memories in a minute. You got a favorite, favorite memory. I'm sure you've watched the tournament a lot. I'm sure you've obviously been here. I would guess you're shot on 18 a couple of years ago. It's probably up there personally, but, uh, both a personal memory and a Kind of viewing memory. So Personal memory. I'm actually gonna go back to my freshman year of college my dad was playing in this tournament as an amateur and I had just landed on a red eye from the Amir Ari

College event playing on the Stanford team and my dad called and said, hey, I'm paired with Phil Mickelson today. Do you want a caddy? So straight off the red eye. He's this lefty guy. Yeah. I just want to stop to my dorm, grab a change of clothes and a rain jacket and drove down here and met my dad 30 minutes before the tee time. And I remember Phil on the seventh tee was a little into the wind, not as much

as today, but he leaned to the shaft on this nine iron and it launched like a six iron right in the middle of the green. It was a really cool shot. So that's explained. Explain to you how to hit it after that. Come over here. It's really not that hard. It's not that hard shot, man. Let me show you how it goes. You're going to want to hear this part. Anybody else want to come on and listen in?

You're going to want to hear this part. I have the 80 guys here. I don't know how many have cat-eat pebble, but that's me. Well, that's kind of my viewing memory. And then, obviously, playing memory, being in contention, and really playing my way into that position for the first time on the PGA Tour. I remember standing up on that 18th tee. It was the first time in my life I was so nervous that I was numb from the elbow down. It was the weirdest feeling, but I was I was like okay let's just keep this club

outside and rotate and I absolutely mashed it. And then what'd you do after you mashed it? And then I hit a perfect utility iron and then the club just started spinning. You should never do another club tour on your life, because you're never going to beat that on the final home at the table. But there is no better feeling in my job than executing a shot under pressure. And it's just so much fun.

That's what we play and practice for. And there's really no feeling like it when your heart's pounding, you can't feel your hands, and you absolutely smoke one. It is so fun. There's something you said in a video we shot with you maybe five years ago that I thought I'd try to take with me when I go play golf.

You confidently said, I chip and put the lights out. And so when I'm struggling with my short game, I try to just go to the course and say, I chip and put the lights out. I don't. But I just remember that confidence that came from you of your short game. There's nothing like having a sketchy iron play for a couple years.

That will take you to short cave putting. But no, it's the one thing in common with the best putters in the world that they think they're the best putter in the world. I've never had a putt I don't think I'm going to make that actually goes in. It just never goes up. Well, as Mr. Quire said, we miss it left and right. It's either the equipment or the coach. And if you miss shorter, long, it's the caddy.

It's never our fault. I love that. All right, we're going to send you on your way. We appreciate you stopping by with us. Best of luck this week. And with the rest of the season, hope it's a solid season full health and everything. And congrats on everything going on in your life.

It's exciting updates. Thank you guys. Appreciate your time. Cheers. All right, we are going to do a quick break here. And then we are going to wrap up our final hour here on the range at the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro Am. Thank you so much for joining us.

Thanks to Matt McNeely for popping on. Had a lot of great guests today. It's been a lot of fun. We'll be back with the final 40 minutes here and the rest of the Beluga's big board, which people are just foaming at the mouth for and cannot wait to get to. Stay tuned, folks.

Here it comes. The top 29. And we are back. Thank you so much for being patient with us here live on the range at the AT&T pebble beach pro am. We're in the final hour here of our show. Hopefully welcoming in a couple more guests here as we wrap up. We want to thank mad McNeely saw his Tagala Lucas Glover Steve John have rolled through today have had a good time unveiling the Beluga big board which we're in the final hour. How many spots we have left to go? 29. 29 that we know of. 29 spots that we know of. I'm gonna toss it over to you. I'm gonna do

a go I'm gonna go roam the range a little bit. We didn't do our three bits thing. I might go get a couple bits and see if I can recruit some of them. I'm gonna do the final follow-ups on some people that have said they're going to come by and see if we can pin them down for this final. Sure. Love bigs out there. Tell them TC's looking for them.

OK, I will definitely do that. It's like, oh, not again. This guy. So coming in at 29, shout out to you, Solid. Steven Yeager. Wow. Really? A man that played well last week.

You know, sometimes when you get close, you're still hungry. You're still a little humble, but still hungry. Game's in a good spot. So I'm looking for a big week for him. He climbed the big board. Brendan Todd at 28. Like it's a good course fit for him. Ludwig O'Bear at 27.

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I feel like Russ gonna win this year. Okay. Don't necessarily mean here, but he's not another career that like I'd love to have Russ Hanley's career. Like he can walk through it right out here hitting balls. Maybe we can maybe not be ambushed him on his way. Recognized, but he's never lost his tour card. He's won what four or five times. I think 32 million dollars, something like that. To check me on this. He was low AM at one of these US opens maybe 2010 was he was he low am it?

Not sure, but he's never dropped outside the top 80 since he's had his tour card Talk about a stress-free career can still walk through the airport probably doesn't get recognized I mean that's kind of the lives where Charleston No, he lives in Columbus, Georgia. He lives in Columbus now Number 25 Matthew Fitzpatrick I was thinking maybe a mutter but honestly feel like he might be more track man guy these days sure chasing speed like he's He's a mutter in the wind. I think when you introduce moisture to the equation the letting goes away I think when you introduce moisture to the equation the flooding goes away

Adam Scott at 24. Okay, we have some flushers coming up. Wyndham Clark at 23 Justin Thomas at 22. I feel like he might hit the ball a little too high though. He is a mutter He's got all the shots. Yeah, fair enough too many shots. Um, can he putt on these greens? Okay, I don't know. I don't know you're looking to me. I don't have the answer to that He hasn't played here in 21 a guy. I'm excited about this year, Denny McCarthy. Hmm. That's part of the world. And number 20. Another guy I'm very excited about this year. And I think we'll have a big week this week is Bo Hossler. Talk to me. Bo is playing with Aaron Rodgers. Really? Yes. That is his, his, his partner. So that is the 29 to 20. Number 20. What? Bullhawk's was ahead of some solid days. I know. That's the Baluga's proprietary

model has sent him up the boards. There's, you know, there's going to be some differences with the data boys and the odds makers. Okay. This is, this is, have we heard about Eric Cushing Music sensation? No, you haven't. Wow. Stay tuned for that TC. Gosh, I'm kind of interested. So how'd it go out there? Any nuggets? Not, did not go well. Um, you haven't wow for that TC gosh. I'm kind of interesting Sorry how to go out there any nuggets not did not go well. It's getting cold. I see I saw I really wanted to crash I think it's Keegan and web simpson are having a really intimate chat over there I'm guessing the stick a microphone in their face. I guess that we got some policy stuff So I was kind of trying to eavesdrop a little bit, but it was very much down

Sure, I'll say maybe we got we got Russ Henley out here. Maybe we could ask him as he walks by if he wants to join. I'll probably say no, but that's cool. I got the one nugget I had. Sungjae has a fire sweater on today, but I just watched him absolutely chunk a hybrid. Like bad stuff. But I've also tricked myself into thinking

somebody's going to have a bad week by watching them hit one bad shot during practice. And it almost never works that way. So I need to move up in the models. I'm surprised that Hayden Buckley didn't move up in your models after we saw him flush that three, what on number three? Well, he, he, he bumped up from like 80, 79, 80 to like 71. Okay. So that did help.

It helped. Yeah. So I'm just playing with Greg Penner, the owner of the Denver Broncos. You got to be thinking they're talking about Mr. Unlimited. Sure. What to do there. They're paired up with Larry Fitzgerald and Adam Hadwin. That's a comfy pair. Did you guys ask Mav if he was a mutter?

I don't remember. No, I don't think we did. I assumed because he's played well here. Yeah, fair enough. Have you guys talked to any odds yet? We've not talked to odds. No. Who do you think is the favorite this week?

There are two favorites this week. Do you know who they, I gotta think it's Mr. Scott. We haven't talked about Scotty at all this week. No, we haven't. I tried to declare him a mutter. He just didn't like that. Yeah. I don't know. The models are, the models are spitting out that he might not be. Okay. Scotty, Sheffler and Rory are both plus 900. Victor Hovland comes in at plus 1200. Talked much about Victor. Talk much about the ticket. Victor.

Victor's been working hard. He's out here every night when we're leaving. He's been on the range working. Zandir Shafley is in at 14 to 1. Max Homa, 16. Oh, what an offer Gary Mielder. Max Homa and Jordan Spieth are 16 to 1. I like the 16 to 1.

I think there's a lot of value there. No hat, Pat, at 16 to 1. I like the 16 to 1. I think there's a lot of value there. No hat, Pat, at 18 to 1, and then the JT, Colin Moriakawa at 20 to 1. The books have adjusted back for Justin Thomas. He was dropping into that 50 to 60 to 1 in the back half, middle to back half of last year. And he's played some really good golf over the last several months.

He really has. Is JT? JT. There's chatter that he's poised to good golf over the last several months. He really has. He's JT. JT. There's, there's chatter that he's, he's poised to have a big year for a couple of reasons. One, game might be back in two, less distractions. Hmm. Doesn't, you know, maybe it may not be one of the guys on the phone out here. Sure.

Right now. May, may not. Not as much sponsored stuff going on. He's working with DJ to open up Panther National. Panther, TC does not want to hear this. TC will not. You might stop me. I'm unplugged. I'm like in the middle of this take. I saw a couple holes of Panther national.

When there's that a title of shoot, it looks pretty cool. That's all I said. I think it looks, I think it looks cool. I'm interested. I want to see more. And you're allowed to want that. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Granted, these are not BDEs, but his last, uh, you know his all this finishes in September. He finished fifth at the Fortinet He finished fourth at the Nedbank Africa's major

He finished third at the hero world challenge and t3 in his last start at the the American Express to get in under the gun to Get under in the top 30 in the OWGR to qualify for this event So guys, I just want to call it out now that the lower jaw starting to chatter. It's you. You are not in the call. I know. I'm just, you know, once it's in my dome that I'm holding. You've got a beanie on it.

Hold on. Not a mutter. Neil goes quick. Once the temperature gets below like 54, Neil's gone. I'm good with rain. Yeah. And I enjoy. I'm not good in the wind, but I enjoy playing in the wind.

It's when it gets cold that I start to fade pretty hard. How do you do in New York? It's gonna be tough Yeah What's up guys? We're doing the the books I say would say have adjusted back on Ludwig O'Bear if you will it got a little carried away at the century. Yeah He's probably gonna finish top ten he's probably not gonna win yeah, he's probably going to finish top 10. He's probably not going to win. Yeah. He's plus 2,800 to win this week.

That just feels like a better place. What are Tommy's odds? Tommy Fleetwood is plus 3,500 to win. And I like that TC. I like that TC. I don't like being in California where you cannot place anything, but I like plus 3,500 for Tommy Fleetwood. Who's someone that you think is a little bit down the board,

maybe 50 to 1, 75 to 1, but worse. But I want to pause on that. Fleetwood at 35, and Sung Jae and Fitz post at 35. That seems like the wrong category for Tommy. I know he hasn't won on the PGA Tour, but we all think that he's going to, right? 25 to 1, 27 to 1. We do think that it is going to happen.

Are we going to slag TC? This is a lot for me, guys. The odds makers, they look backwards. The Beluga is a forward forward. That's well said. Like the vision fund, which we take into account. A lot of fund managers here on this. Yes. Very true.

They're all whispered about TZ. Looking for his models. Did you see the blue? Oh my God, look at the pro. Karen is so bad. What do you think of the pros fit today? Untouched shirt. Are you a mutter? Standard, are you a mutter?

Are you a mutter? No, he nods. Big time nods. He's yet. No hesitation. You know who else was a mutter? Kobe. Kobe was a mutter.

Who were the biggest mutters of our time? Yeah. Well said. Pass at Sam Burns and JT Poston at plus 4,000 or 40 to one. We're invading that. We go Russ Henley, Jason Day, Cameron Young, Ben On at 45 to one. Tom Kim, Nikolai Hoygaard at 50, Beau Hausser 55, Wyndham Clark, plus 60.

Oh, Cameron, 50 feels attractive. Yeah, that's attractive. I'll bite at that apple. I'll split that play with you, TTC. bite at that apple I mean I got in the right place with that play at the at the PGA He was he was playing in the mud and we got through me the most boy He's muddy waters Windham, Hedekki and country music sensation Eric Cole all at six that's that's a disgrace The the sophomore albums sensational. I can't get behind that

Finally my guy Steven Yeager at 70 to one and saw it. He's sharing it with saw it Keegan and Brian Harmon. Got a Harman not getting any, any love. Couple of couple of interesting ones down the board. Open champion. I would think he would be a little higher. Can I test my theory on that? You know, maybe played out a little bit. Liverpool. We definitely saw play out at Kiowa when there's going to be a windy week,

just making a play on an opposite handedhanded golfer and in the case that the wind is more favorable to a lefty especially with a hole like 18 that you can hold it up against I'm looking down the list here's he the issue is with Harmon here if the winds coming off the ocean on on nine shoot you know for nine ten specifically but he's got to start it like out of the ocean that's a what if the winds what if the wind switches let's see when then what wind is supposed to be out of the southwest to west southwest on Thursday not good for Harman Friday is west not good Saturday is southeast and a little bit of West. It looks like and then Holy shit,

the wind is going to get Gus up to 50 miles an hour at night on Sunday night. But I'm going to be out of the southeast a little bit. It's one of those things to it. If everybody's missing the greens, because the greens are small. So I was talking about having to hit draws into them. I think if everybody's missing greens, then nobody's kind of missing greens. And who's the best chipper of the bunch?

Short game is heavily emphasized out here. Kev, are you calling for the ball? You got to nug it? You know, I'll wander a little bit. Hop in here, big guy. T.C. needs to go find Ludwig and follow up on his promise. Stay close. OK. We need to share the.

The microphones are where the audio is shared, Kevin. So why don't you come on here and tell us what you're saying here. Yeah, it just wouldn't want to around having fun conversations with various people. Come on in here, big guy. Come on, get closer to the fire. It's cold out.

Close that microphone. Come here. Chin should be touching the microphone. OK, I can do that. I've got a couple chins. I can touch the floor. What do you got for us? I had a really. OK, I can do that. I've got a couple of chins. I can touch the table. What do you got for us?

I had a really interesting conversation, I think, with somebody who's close to Rory, like has known him his whole career. Yeah, it's a lot like, actually. And they shared something, a really, I think, insightful thing. I said, I wish you guys would stop saying, like, oh, he's going to win the Masters a couple of times.

Like, he's definitely, he's a great fit for that course. So you know what you, you guys, not like us. Not even like us, I think media in general, like just, you know, broad public. I wish you would say you're never gonna win the fucking Masters. Just the, you are shit.

Reverse psychology? That he's like, watch, listen throughout LaRoy's career. He always plays his best when he's kind of pissed off, when he's got something to prove. Like as soon as what happened at the Ryder Cup this year, I knew he was gonna frickin' play great. I was like, he's got an edge and he needs that edge. There's a little bit of like the edges come back with Liv,

but like he's had his kind of his butt kissed in a lot of ways and he needs more people to tell him. Canadian Open was such. You know, like you suck. Randy killed him. Like Randy buried him. Maybe there's people who are ready to see more Red't know in the world I just thought that was interesting somebody who actually knows him well has you know Has been around him for a long time. We might need to really felt like just come on into shot

You're just like this is actually the key to unlocking Rory's it'd be like you're not gonna win another major like you you know certainly not gonna be invited to the block party That's what I was about to say. We might have to adjust the guest list to the block party. Maybe make it like a Brooks block party and then Roy is not invited. He wants to have to win. I'd like to be more of a rave. I think that's a good thought. I'm personally not convinced, convinced that Roy is going to win a masters.

I do not think that's a foregone conclusion. I do not think it's, oh yeah, he's for sure going to win one. I mean, I remember Tiger saying, Oh, he's going to win a couple of these. Yeah. And I thought that was like an that was actually not a good thing to say. Like if Tiger came out tomorrow, it was like he had his chances and you might miss him out. Maybe it's not going to happen for him. I'd probably piss Roy off enough to be like, you know what?

I've got to really go at this. We'll do that on the Masters live show leading up into the wake. We'll just declare he's not going to win one. We're going to have Randy back to rebarry him as well. Guys, it's windy out there. I don't I was watching walking the range a little bit. I had if you ever want to like really see how skilled professional golfers are, sit there and watch them hit like four different clubs to the same distance. I sat there and watch saw for you know, maybe 15 minutes, 20 minutes, try to hit a 140 shot with a six iron, a seven iron,

an eight iron, and then go through all different flights. Like, all right, I'm going to hit one now that balloons way up and try to see if I can get that the right distance. It's kind of art watching that. That's if you have no idea as a NAM, like, oh, 160. Like, yeah, I'll just hit my 160 club. No, dog. Let's hit five different shots. Yeah, this different trajectory trajectory is one of those things

I just haven't really figured out. Yeah, and Probably should put that on the list. Yeah, add it to the list. We're gonna have this afternoon. Yeah, see if we can get trajectory What are we gonna do this afternoon? Are we gonna be just some soup? Yeah, under a blanket. I believe Steve said three three p.m. It's it's looking like we need to batten down the hatches by the hurricane ish. Yeah. Hurricaney. Hate that. Yeah.

Yeah. Yes. You're he's come back for his gloves to walk the rain. Oh man. It is getting pretty pretty real out there. Well, who's the what are some of the fit highlights and lowlights you've seen out there, KVV? Fit highlights. Fit lights. Steven Malbon is standing right behind you guys.

So I can bring him over if you want. Thank you, TC. We appreciate that. No, I'd say it's kind of outerwear, rain gear season. Yeah, I know. I got mine on right here. But I don't know. It's hard to flash because it's more like the stuff that's just like in mine on right here. But I don't know. It's hard.

It's hard to flash because it's more like the stuff that's just like in the bag. Well, you don't want to flash on Wednesday. Yeah, exactly. Well said. So you got good stuff. A lot of days to go here. More cow and shorts. I mean, that's that's definitely a highlight.

Where it. Where did he go though? Did he go home? Yeah, the tanimal shorts. I did not see that. More cows were in shorts today. Okay. And was tan.

Wow. More cow must be way. No, I'm, I'm, no, I'm sticking. I'm sticking. He's in the right spot. Do we want to keep continuing on? Yeah, sure. Or do you want to do pebble memories? I mean, let's do pebble memories. Okay. Who wants to start? Yeah. What's your, what's your number one pebble memory? Honestly, my number one pebble memory is tiger hitting the three wood around the tree on 18. Well, my number, number two pebble memory is watching that same year was open on Sunday and being told like while we were away at commercial, Phil Mickelson hit a shot off of the TV wires that were laying down around the

green, which is they didn't have it on TV. And I felt so robbed by that we missed like a fill moment. Cause his ball came to rest on the TV cables and he decided to just play it anyway. And they didn't have any like replay of that for us to, so that, that ranks way up there for me. It's like feeling personally hurt that I just robbed of that fill moment. I mean, there's a time you can pull from the 2000 us open, of course, but one that sticks in my mind that I, again,

try to channel when I can is, I mean, the only reason you were watching was to see like, all right, leads nine now, leads 10. Like, how big is he going to make it? And then he tripled number three. He like hit it up again in the thick fescue around one of the bunkers, whiffed one, chopped one, made triple. But the thing I remember about that

was he walked off that green from making triple and he was laughing. Like he literally was laughing after a triple bogey. And I was just like, oh my God, this dude is on such a different level. He realizes, you know, he's going to win this thing by, you know, double digits, but it just got hit by three. If he doesn't make a triple, he wins it by 18 shots.

I just, that performance, I mean, they can't be talked about enough. How about the revelation too that we learned years later that after he snapped one out in the ocean, that like he didn't have any more balls. They had one ball left. And that Stevie was like, if you lose this ball, I'm gonna have to run into it.

He didn't tell him though. He did not tell him. He wanted to hit another driver off the 18th tee and Stevie just had to stand there and just hope that that ball did not go into the ocean. And thankfully it did not. Same round. It's very almost benign shot.

He hit a seven iron on number six up the hill. And I think it was like 205. And it was just like, I remember as a kid being like 205. Seven iron. From deep rough. From deep rough. From the right side over the bunker. Is there a bunker on the corner there on the right?

Little on the right, yeah. Yeah, yeah there a bunker on the corner there on the right little on the right Yeah, yeah, so I just like have this like picture ingrained in my mind of Because they the telecast has this big wide shot of it and it was just like seven iron. Are you kidding me? Huh? I was such a classic Maltby call just hits the shot on the front of the green. It's just not a fair play. It's just not it's just not the age What do you got? Obviously, you know two 2000 is up there. Man.

Honestly, the Dustin, like if we're going pro golf, the Dustin Johnson meltdown is like pretty indelible. That's, that's your specific shot from that? Yeah. The whole meltdown on, on two and three. I'd like, I remember vividly watching every single, every shot of it. Right. Yeah. Like, and it happened so fast. I think he swung under one, like trying to hit like a little 60 degree on to the on to the green swung under one blew it way left on three like

just shocking shocked like holy shit like that can happen like I've heard you know I've heard about older guys blowing majors in spectacular fashion I think I've never watched the car crash. I remember that. I weirdly remember a lot of the 2010. I remember I was watching it at home with my dad. I had just graduated from college. It was like the week between graduating from college and moving to Florida to start my new jobs.

I remember I was watching that one at home with my parents. Gregory Havre, Grant McD McDowell things of that nature. I remember that one And then just like weird Amateur stuff. I remember Peter cost is breaking down more celebrity swings than I can like You know care to care to really remember, you know, here's the conic of an Ulta biz hub swing vision camera of Kenny G's Move on 17. I remember a lot of that. Yeah You know Clint Eastwood in the booth For a while that's Saturday tonic. Oh

You know what I really remember one is is G max dad on the 18th green after one coming up to him Say yeah, you are some kid. Yeah, you are some kid. And she met him with the happy father's day to. Yeah, I was like, oh my God, like that's the Irish dad thing to say. Like boy, you are some kid. Like not being able to quite say like I'm so proud of you. I love you, but just you are some kid. What a personal pebble memory.

We filmed a video here with Tommy Armand III the third, I was hoping he was, he took, it was the, uh, champions tour event, uh, nature valley had a, had a big presence, um, out on the ninth tee and, uh, TA three took the nature valley bars and just feeding the goals, just tossing and the goals were, were grabbing the nature valley bits out of the air. It was just like something out of a movie. He was basically like to me like, hey, come walk with me. I want to show you something. Just the birds following him. I'll have to dig that video up.

It exists on you. It was a seminal moment for the trap draw listeners. I feel like that's really the start of like the, you know, go to his birthday party. Yeah. TA4 and I came down. TA4, lightspeed, a lot of those things you've heard of the, the trap started right there. Fantastic. I remember he, he played, they played that event also at Poppy Hills. I think he hit 18 greens at Poppy Hills and shot like 71.

I saw him, I think I saw TA three miss like eight putts inside of 10 feet. It was, it was tough. About a Onika asking to speak to the manager at the women's US. Oh, God, I missed a lot of that. Yeah. Forget what else we were doing that week, but I know you guys were out here. Yeah. That's a tough memory. Very awkward. 20, not a ton of, not a lot of 2019 stuff has come up, but Kepke, Kepke came out of the gate and looked like it was going to be, I mean,

that was again, the period he won the 2017 and 18 PGA's. He won 20 or I'm sorry. I have that right. 2018 and 19 PGA's and 17 and 18 us open. This was for three in a row. Yeah. And to finish, he's like solo second, right? Correct. I remember he had a really great shot into one of the four. Yeah. They ripped all the way back. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, whew. I mean, he made it interesting. Like he, he didn't like flay down, let Woodland, you know, just have it. What's, I don't know.

That dude was on a US open heat, so that stretch. It's all a personal memory. I know you've told the story with your dad. Anything else? First shot, any cataclysmic shots you hit, your first time you played? The first time we played it,

we had a three three 10 tea time in May, which was the rounds that here at public not quick. So we played 18 completely in the dark and you just hit a tee shot nowhere to find it find it in the bunker dry fairway bunker hack one out and into another bunker hit up near the green. I had like a 10 footer for par totally in the dark just to par the whole again. I made it all the story yesterday, but I was maybe in whatever fifth or sixth grade and made like this clay pottery, you know, image of the 18th hole wrapping around still water. COVID I was just always look forward to playing that hole and made like a 10 footer in the dark to probably shoot 86, but I made made the par putt on 18.

That was a one of my in your blue period. No, I saw this is even is even worse. I was obsessed with white pants back. Yes. Yes. I was going to say white, bright blue shirt. My buddy called him painter pants. I got bought a pair of used just white pants. And they were not. They were not golf pants, but I wore them all the time to play golf. And that was my A plus outfit. And I could probably pull that photo up if you guess what. But these are not golf pants that I

wore in my first trip to Pebble Beach. while you do that. Maybe we go 19 to 10. I think it's time. Sure. I got a, I got a curve ball for you guys here. Mark Hubbard. Yeah. Whoa. That's a homeless hubs. Yeah. The data is telling us he was number one in strokes gained last week. Other than putting did not putt well, but he's striking it really well. gotta think that's what set these guys apart maybe he gets hot with the putter so we bumped them up the big board also got engaged here I believe so I was standing during my my pga tour days I didn't give I don't I don't know if Cody has this photo but I was one of my favorite memories I would I would say I hit a point at the tour where I was like man I've taken so many fucking like swing videos of these guys.

I've taken so many photos of like, here's the sixth hole. Here's the seventh hole. I was trying to come up with like, what's other weird stuff I could do. And I just Googled like how to do night photography. And I remember getting a tripod and I was like, what if I like went out? I think I have like an all access. I think I have like an all access pass. Maybe I can show up at night. Is there any security? Like I, I don't know. I didn't ask anybody like, Hey, what if I did this? Cause it would have been a disaster.

So I just went and camped out on the seventh tee by myself at probably like 11 at night for a good long time and took that photo. But anyways, I believe it was the same year. I Mark Hubbard, I think got engaged. I'm one of his practice. Strokes gained heart. Someone was like, Oh, do you have a camera? I think he's about to, I believe it was the same year. I Mark Hubbard, I think got engaged for one of his practice strokes gained heart. Someone was like, oh, do you have a camera? I think he's about to, I think he's about to, you're not proposing, are you?

Think about it, man. Number 18, Keegan Bradley. We're thinking he was a mutter, may not be a mutter. This is one that could get adjusted when we, when we locked these in. He won the rain soaked BMW 2018 at Aronamac. Okay. So very soft golf course. I think that qualifies as mudding.

17, a guy that's always, always doing stuff. Mr. Brian Harman. Champion golf for the year. True Mudder, open champion at a soggy Liverpool venue. And he's just always doing stuff. 16, he's falling out of the top 10. I don't feel like the weather bodes well for his back. He's whispering now, he's afraid.

Mr. Patrick Cantlay, he is a killer though, so that's going to keep him in the top 20. Justin Rose, he's right behind him. At 15, past winner, he also has a good team around him. Of course. Mackenzie Hughes has a good track record here, so I have him at 14. Coming in at 13 is Mr. Lucas Glover, who's right behind you,

working on his putting. I feel like he strikes me as a mutter, and I like his chances this week. Shout out to the 09 US Open. At 12, we have Tommy Fleetwood, a group favorite here, but not in my top 10. I've decided. Wow, slagging him off. a group favorite here, but not in my top 10. I've decided.

Wow, slagging them off. And then 11, he was the number one on the course fit tool, but not sure about how he plays in the mud. Brendan Todd. No, Jason Day. So we'll see. Okay, he's getting a lot of work in here. I don't know if the rain's gonna mess with the fit.

Do you think his new clothes will make it kind of hard to stand up and are kind of flappy? You know, they're going to carry a lot. It could be some wind sails. It could be sails. It's true. We didn't back to that. Say good backages.

Yeah. You could have in fact the follow through. Interesting. OK, it's nice sail, Mike. And number 10, my note here is it's time to see something. There's just too much talent. Sung Jae-im. Did you adjust it when you chunked that hybrid? Well, maybe I should. Maybe I should flip him and Keegan might be my switch there. So

never seen a pro bounce back from a bad shot. So I think you got you got a run. It's like Sanjay hits it pretty high though, but he just feels like a ball striker, man. I got to think he's going to win something big at some point or I'm going to be disappointed. Yeah, his career is not just it's not. I don't know. He came out so hot. He played so much. He was firing at pins and it just felt like he was on a, you know, a rising path and it just feels like it's really leveled off very quickly. He sees totally fine and capable PGA tour player, but not has not been an elite player that he was in like the Asian games or he finished second and he said that the military requirement is off the board.

I kind of thought that would be like, I mean, one of the national open last year. In Korea, I think Korea or Korean master something, something big. And then I picked him the next week to win, but I did factor in the jet lag. We talked more about this with like the number one player in the world. How like somebody gets I mean Lucas kind of talked about a little bit like you get on these like super hot streaks and like they don't last forever The same thing happens. You don't get to number one in the world. You know he is

How are you buddy? Well timed it we only get a date a guy how good is this yeah this Yeah, no JT. I got a question for you. Are you a guy? How good is this? Yeah, this website is amazing. Do you use this website? Yeah. Well, no, JT, I got a question for you. Are you a mutter? Am I what? A mutter.

Look at the weather. Do you play well in the elements? I like the elements. The rain, to me, is, I mean, it's not my favorite. So rain's better than, rain's worse than cold for you? I would take wind over any. Okay. But yeah, I mean, I'd prefer it to not be cold. But if I had to rank them, I'd go wind, cold rain shorts on today though. So you're

sort of flexing on my golf shorts. What are, what are the odds you're on the bad side of the draw this week? I'm playing with Jordan. So I know I'll hear it either way. Aren't you on like a nine straight open championship and chip run of, of being on the bad side of the draw? It's not my best, but, um, yeah, you know, I think, I actually think it's not only it's, I think it's a good week for the draw, but it's going to be a great year. I can feel for the draws. I mean, I, oh, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like plus 15 strokes game draw in the majors this year. Let's see if that's on data golf.

Well, let me toss you an unrelated to golf question. How do you feel about the new Bama coach? You want to sit? I don't know. Here, I'll just pop in between you guys. I don't know. I don't really know much about him. Everybody definitely seems to think

that I was like a part of the hire or something like that. But why weren't you? You were on the committee? Everyone's like, oh man, condolences. Like you would have thought a family member died when Saban retired. But I'm kind of curious for the beluga to finish his big board with with JT here.

Yeah, I'd be happy to. Neil ranked the field 80 to 1 according to his proprietary models. Let me guess. I think we're into the top 10. JT, I had you at 22. So we're in the top 10. 22? It doesn't sound like him in the top 10. No, we're into the top 10. JT, I had you at 22, so we're in the top 10. Oh, it's 22? It doesn't sound like I'm in the top 10.

No, we're into the top 10, but you weren't going to hear your name, so I was just going to get out in front of it. Okay, okay. There's no shade on this. You've got to rank them all, right? We're going off form here. You don't have a lot of course history here. So that factors into the models. You were ranking high and strokes gained heart. That's good.

And stoke level. So that's, I love to know what I was ranked if I didn't have a good heart. Um, then in the 40s, we could take that offline. Uh, but at 10, we had Sung Jae. So we talked about that. Number nine, we have Colin Morakawa. Um, I don't know if I'm buying this week. It seems to be a favorite around here, but he's a little Chippy in the press conference yesterday. I kind of like it Colin Well, he probably should be hot everybody else is putting him in like, you know top three, right? This one's gonna shock and all you guys country music sensation

Eric Cole is coming in at number eight. I feel like his platinum album coming soon is gonna be a banger JT's weighing in like putting that guy above me versus is it worth saying that? We got Worry at seven. Doesn't have a lot of course history here. We've got Victor at six. It seems like he's been grinding late. So that factors into the heart. Strokes gained heart.

Scotty Schaeffler at five. We thought he was a mutter. We're getting more that he may not be a mutter. That's all I need to know about that. Well, wait, stick around. There's more. We've got Jordan at four. Or no, man, my numbers are off.

So no, so Scotty's at four. I'm sorry. Because there's a title in my rows. There's two. Right. So that was also. The models did account for that. Didn't account for that.

Am I still at 22? You're 21. 21. 21. Yeah, congrats. We've got Jordan at three. We've got Xander at two. And we've got the pro max at one.

Wow. Fleetwood? Fleetwood, it was at 12. JT looks disgusted by your rankings. Well, have you ever done well when someone wrote you off JT? Like, you know, or is that something maybe you weren't good enough to win a tournament? So maybe this is a long game.

Yeah, I mean, I got to be honest. I have yet to make a cut at this golf course and my two tournaments here, but there's no cut this week. So supporting the big board rankings, you do do well at limited field, no cut events. How many of those have you won? Apparently not enough. 21. Okay, let's pull it up here. I mean, all of the all the CIMBs that you won or no cut limited field events, right? Mm-hmm. Did you win the century? I did. I've won it twice. You won the, won the century twice. Sony open was full field. PGA will give you credit for that. That was full. I got two CJ cups. There you go. CJ cups are limited field. Bridgestone Invitational. That sounds pretty limited field to me. Uh,

50 guys. Have you never realized that? We haven't locked in the, the, the big board yet. The limited field stuff could help you. That could help you. That might bump you up a few slots on the big board. It is fine. I get it. Yeah. I was, um, Jordan was briefly explaining the whole, you know, the situation what came out today and whatnot and equity. And I was like, are they determining like, you know, the equity? Are they putting like heavy weight on anything

that happens in Malaysia and Jeju Island? Like the ISU. He was like, he was like there in Quad Cities. Those are gonna be the big, the big. Certain metro areas, more important than others. Like, come on, we're a world tour. You see how big Kuala Lumpur is? We got it, David.

How much time do you have? What is your reaction to everything that came out today? I mean, I'm good with it. I think it's way above my pay grade in terms of the information and the depth that I know to it. That does not stop people from having an opinion on it, by the way. That's true.

And I think I've made that mistake before. So I am trying to grow up and learn a little bit from that. But no, I mean, it's, I think it's pretty cool. It's where the first, what I think, first professional organization where their players have equity in, you know, in their tour. So that's, I mean, that's pretty, pretty freaking cool. And I would not that I wouldn't think it would change much, but in terms of what guys will do, but at the same time,

I also would think that, you know, we feel like we're legitimately a part of it. And everybody can also earn more and play, play better and feel like they're a part of this PGA tour thing. So and make it more and make it more entertaining for the fans. Right. That's what you're going to finish with. Well, yeah, I mean, all of this is yeah. We need to and our fans need to continue to try to better our product because that's obviously the first, you know, it doesn't matter.

Deals are signed or who's making what whatever it is. If we don't, we need we need to. I mean, we're popular sport, but we don't hold a candle to to any of the other major sports and that's, you know, hopefully the opportunity and what we'll do I would I would think and and hope What's uh, what's on the schedule for today? Are you working out? Are you playing? I'm done. You're done. Yeah, I I've had a yeah a couple of good days of practice and kind of I mean I feel like I did what I wanted to do on the course and I was gonna honestly show up here at about eight and kind of hit some balls and practice a little in C

and I wasn't necessarily set on playing and with the wind blowing 30 off the left on the range, I quickly audibled and I just bones and I was like, let's just go, we played one, two, three, 17, 18. And it is comical. I'm actually, I actually was about to post an Instagram a couple of videos from today. I hit nine iron and 18 today.

Oh my God. With your third shot or second? Second. Okay. Is that downwind? It's yeah, it's down off the left. And it's yeah, I hit, I mean, 17 was 164 and just like roasted the four iron just short of the hole.

It was like, it was fun. I mean, it was like, it was way better than doing anything out here at least to me, so that's smart. All right, we're gonna get you out of here cause we're getting out of here as well. Thanks for popping by. Best of luck this week. Thanks, JT.

Find, just under the buzzer, find somewhere warm to take in some movies. I hope it fuels you. I hope it fuels you. Rematches the rest of my life. Luga doesn't play favorites, JT. That's what it is. That's what it is.

That's right. That's right. We beat their ass. That's right. We made a factored into the big board. Who can say, you know? Jordan's at four and JT's at 21. What? Everyone me Jordan's a mutter. So that, that factors in big time that he's, that he's on his best behavior when he's in the, uh, when he's in the elements,

he's easily influenced himself. I think we should get Growler's comments on that. That's a good, we'll take that one offline. So, see you. All right. That is going to bring our show here to a wrap. I want to thank everyone at AT&T that has hosted us this week and given us this opportunity to come to you live here from the range at the AT&T Pell Beach Pro. I'm connecting changes everything. Today being connected is essential. Connectivity is truly the bridge to possibility,

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I had going back in 2011. So pretty good. Hey, could one word, no, no, no explanation. Who's your pick? One word max. Fleetwood, Jordan, Fleetwood. Wow. That is it. Thank you everyone. That is not it. Cody is waving me out. Oh, you can see on screen. This is the sticker you're looking for. It is somewhere out on the Pebble Beach golf course. First person to take a picture with it and send it in on Twitter or

Instagram. Is it electric? That's it. It could be. Yeah, that's it. And you get a signed Jordan's beef staff bag, AT&T, pro M staff bag, limited edition baby. That is the Sarge, Cody McFried on the ones and twos. Matt Golden, birthday boy from yesterday. Shout out again to AT&T. We will be live again on Sunday night and thank you everyone for having us out. We'll be back here soon. Cheers.