No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 804: Thursday Players Live Show
Episode Date: March 15, 2024The first round of the Players is in the books, Rory, Xander, and Wyndham all shoot 65 to race out to the lead, Vik and Jordan confront Rory about a couple of drops, TPC Sawgrass plays benign, and eve...rything else from our day on site at the Players. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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A lot of joyous moments out there today.
That's gonna be an easy segment today.
But TC, I'll throw to you first.
Where were you feeling the flow today?
Feeling the flow or feeling the joy?
Well, the moment of joy section is later.
Oh, that's later.
Yeah, give me what you're vibing on there today.
You know, I'm gonna say-
Doing the pole dance.
Energy, harness, good good block pad, right?
There was a lot of blocking the bat around and around.
Uh, you know what guys, I'm feeling the joy on, I was out there with Max this evening.
It's gorgeous here. I'm just feeling the joy on the weather. It's like 78 degrees and not a cloud in the sky and just so delightful.
The greens are a little too soft.
They're fast.
And guys went out and shot numbers.
But the golf courses, it's not going to give it away.
You still got to earn it.
And just a delightful day watching golf out there.
No crazy, you know, nothing crazy went on.
We'll talk about some drop stuff. And there's some pace of play
stuff going on here. But overall, I just I'm feeling
positive and joyous. And I got a shout out my guy, JT Poston as
well. He's in at three under I think right now I think he's the
best pound for pound golfer in the world.
Splits have the best golf in the world. It was, TC, it felt like a big event out there.
And I had to come home for some childcare duties
in the afternoon, watch it on television.
On television felt like a lot bigger event,
just graphics, music, less commercials,
just everything felt different about all of this.
And it's been a tough couple of years
and tough start to the year, if I may say.
It was really good to be out there in person and to feel like some very real buzz and energy around it.
Honestly, if I can say, Scotty's kind of little pump up speech that he gave in his presser earlier this week
kind of like flipped me a little bit too.
It was like, yeah, why am I mad at the actual PGA Tour guys here?
They're doing the best they can in all of this amidst some bad leadership and everyone else jump and ship and I don't know I'm viewing it all
through a different lens now and it helps also to have the leaderboard that
we have including Rory Zander and Wyndham Clark at the very top of the
leaderboard but guys with the watch on TV what were your impressions well I can
I can report from Denver where it started snowing last night we're
probably we're nearing a foot of snow here.
So, Randy, are you going to get out tomorrow?
I don't know.
I TC.
We simply do not know.
Over 800 flights canceled today at Denver International Airport.
But I say all that because there's day for being honest.
If you're not going to be out there enjoying the 78 degree weather, what better day to
be parked on the couch watching golf? You know, a very guilt free day spent in front of the television. It was
a, it's all like you said, it, you know, certainly the, the leaderboard will, we'll talk about
that. That helps. Um, but NBC predictably, you know, they step up their game for the
players and yeah, just, it, it felt like a good big golf tournament to watch and I feel like
you know you got to take them where you can get them. Roy McIlroy made 10 birdies. I feel like
anytime you know anytime that happens it's it's tough to have too bad of a day at the office.
They weren't in a row. They weren't in a row. No they weren't in a row. TC maybe you give him some
tips on how to stack more of them in a row. But, uh,
you know,
we spent a lot of time on the Monday preview podcast or the podcast that came
out on Tuesday talking about what this week,
what this week means for Rory. And you know, he just had a lot of,
a lot of kind of flop in the first few tournaments of the year. And you know,
we were kind of saying, Hey,
we're getting into the time of the season now where it's it's kind of time to stop f-ing
around a little bit and start to stack some good rounds of golf and he seemed
to respond to that same thought he had a good quote I don't know if you guys saw
anything he said after the round but he talked about you know obviously he shot
76 in the final round at Bay Hill and I think that was kind of a, he called it a wake up call, like big wake up call
for, you know, if I would've shot 70, he's been playing all these tournaments.
So he's, he by his admission is like not practicing in the same way that he has
been. And so he said, you know, I went and shot 76 and if I had shot 70, I
probably would have just come in, taken Monday off, you know, kind of kept, kept
cruising, kept trying to, you know, just, just just find it that way and instead I shot 76
It was like man
I got a lot of like technical problems in my golf game right now that I need to go fix and
I think he just hit balls for like five hours on Monday and
really went and figured it out and seemed to get some good feels and just
Stacked up a shitload of birdies and it's you know, I hope that that means good things going forward.
I'm laughing. I'm laughing because I'm just thinking, you
know, it sounds like Rory was a little overdue on the the rent
payments for success. Got a little behind.
It's crazy.
Get 15 that 30 you know, he can come in a little later.
Solly and I were looking at the stats. He's shot 65.
I think he's like 120th in the field
in strokes gained off the tee and he's first in putting.
So.
Yeah, I mean hitting two balls in the water
will do that for you.
Yeah, so we're a little concerned
about some of the sustainability models.
You know what TC, I don't know if I am.
Second in strokes gain approach
and two bad swings with driver
that have really big punishment in that strokes
game category like I followed him for
13 holes today and it was prolific aside from the two balls two left balls off the tee which ironically he was saying
you know, I've had this great field with driver and it's irons that I'm flipping left because of this feel and
It was two drives that went left that cost him at least three shots probably
Today the left miss is in play, but he hit the ball really, really well.
The putts were just, they didn't feel fluky at all.
It just was like he was hitting him right to that mid range and he was pouring them
in the center, man.
It looked really, really, really tidy, confident and tidy.
He looks swole.
He looks enormous.
Like he's, he was out driving speed by wide wide margins. It was I'm over using this one lately, but it was like
The Derek Henry mark Ingram meme on repeat just with how far far past he was hitting him
You can see it on shot tracer 35 yards 40 yards
But when you see it in person as you're seeing out right here on the screen like he had speed that 210 into 16
They both had driver and Rory had 176.
Like that's just a-
Rory almost hit into the crosswalk.
It was-
People were walking by the crosswalk
and he almost hit into the crosswalk.
It was-
There's people in danger.
The Rory that we've been wanting to see
for a long, long, long time, you know,
a long, long time, whatever.
For a few months, we have not seen this out of Rory
and we saw it today.
But not without a
bit of controversy, a little bit of a little bit of interesting, probably the
most interesting stretch of the day I would think there was an eight-ish minute
clip published on the PGA Tour social handles highlighting the second drop
incident of the day which happened on his on the seventh hole which was his
sixteenth hole after an incident on the 18th hole which one
do you want to start with i know it'd make more sense to start with the first one but i think the
the more recent one was the one that more people may have seen which one do we start with you think
let's let's start with the first one because i feel like like i think chronologically first of all
we're at sawgrass how do we not have something going on on 14 16 18, 18. I think we'll get to that.
We'll eventually end up at that.
I think it first, we got a question from J Neil 11.
Will you apologize for the tweet?
I threatened to do it.
I called my shots and I was going to do it
after Roy birdied 17.
I of course had to hit him with the Rory coming.
He proceeded to hit the very next shot
directly into the water on 18,
like directly into the water.
I mean, it was.
I can't tell you, man.
I was trying to say on Slack today,
like Randy, you probably saw it too,
but just the biggest grandest shot,
like the big crane shot of 18, Rory had just birdied 17.
He's leading the golf tournament.
I literally, these two thoughts back to back in my head
as I was watching, I was like,
man, Sawgrass fucking rules.
Like this is so cool. Also Rory's definitely hitting this this in the water. There's nowhere else that this ball is
going. And just a massive hook. I want to give a shout out real quick to, I think it was Ryan Burr
and Matt Every on the call. Just really electric stuff throughout that whole stretch. Every's
awesome. That's not going to come to any, as a surprise, anybody listening. But Ryan Burr just deadpan hit him with like a, you know, Matt,
you've you've hit it in the water hundreds and hundreds of times on this whole.
What's about to happen here?
Talk us through this process. Just just good stuff.
I was having a good morning.
So we're going to talk a lot of, you know, where did it cross Twitter?
Ball flight laws. Where were you? You know lot of, you know, where did it cross Twitter, ball flight laws, where
were you, you know, what do you know here situation there's a lot of fine we a lot of
uncomfortable uncomfortable stuff that Tommy Lee Jones in the future that we don't care.
A lot of just uncomfortable stuff that's like Rory said afterwards seems to only happen at TPC Sawgrass
and I mean he hit this ball left on 18 and man
I got it
I gotta say my gut instinct was almost immediately like that covered maybe the tee box right in front of you and
and did not cover in any land up there and
They kind of wait on the tee for a while
So he pulls it and it draws left they wait on the tee for a while so he
pulls it and it draws left they wait on the tee for a while they're talking it
through I couldn't hear anything that was going on and I'm just sitting there
like dude don't do this don't don't do this don't do this they start walking up
keep going farther and I don't know what they're doing and some people in the
media center were talking about this afterwards they're like apparently they
were using radar to figure out where it crossed and I was like no no no no no
Radar that
I've never seen him do that before how did they did they get the track man?
How did they do that and I had to say TC no no no radar Wayne Riley from Sky Sports
Comes up and says oh, yeah, it crossed way up here and he he was not on the tee, like he was up in the fairway.
So, Hovland and Spieth are saying like, you know, they're not, you know, they're not buying what
Rory's kind of selling here and I'm in their camp on this first one. I don't need to explain that
I'm a massive Rory fan. This is an uncomfortable spot in terms of like, all these are dudes that
I like in this whole situation. So it actually makes it a little bit easier if it was like Reed
that had done it into the water and you know Spieth would have held him
accountable it would have been you know easier to punch down but anyways he
ends up taking this drop on 18 that I thought was too far down there I
definitely did but like I'm also now questioning like do we how could anyone
know exactly where this stuff crosses
and the look like ball flight laws and how far the ball actually is when it's
crossing land how it comes down to players to determine all this is is kind
of where I walk away from like dude there's 25 million dollars on the line
here there should be a better way of figuring this out all that to say when
this stuff happens almost always you default default to the most conservative approach.
And especially if your playing partners are gonna say,
I don't really think it crossed up there,
you gotta have some damn strong evidence that it did.
And so that's kind of the basis of this.
He hits this like a fairway wood onto the green,
two putts and makes bogey and gets out of there.
So the drop really helped him on 18.
Simply don't know where it crossed.
And so we get to, you know, he flips over to the other side,
he's tearing it up, he birdies six and flips over to seven.
No, it hits like one of those shots of the day
after he takes the drop on 18
from like 300 yards, knocks it on the green.
Just like, we got a double click,
just linger on how good that shot was for a sec.
That was unbelievable.
Makes a bunch of birdies in the front
and flips over to seven and looks like he's like
kind of trying to hit like a knockdown cut driver
that just starts left and doesn't really come
all the way back and there's water all down this left
and it's another awkward Pete Die hole that, you know,
creates these awkward situations and it's into the wind
and I'm standing right behind the tee, like I'm watching this and there's no camera angle from back there and like it's into the wind and I'm standing right behind the tee,
like I'm watching this and there's no camera angle
from back there and like it's in the air
and like I'm again, I'm always rooting for Rory.
I'm rooting for this thing like cover, like go,
oh, that's gotta go, go, go.
And it hits the bank and goes right in
and my immediate like from what I saw,
I'm 99% sure that it did not cover the red line
on the bounce.
Like it just, in my head I was like,
ah shit, that bounce below the line.
And Spieth's caddy felt the same way, Michael Greller,
Victor Hovland felt the same way,
Victor Hovland's caddy felt the same way.
Spieth seemed to feel the same way,
yet he also said I didn't, you know,
I was looking 15 yards ahead when it happened, all that.
And Rory, as soon as it happens,
Rory says, like, that covered, right?
And Harry says, yes.
And no one really corrects or says anything there.
And then they get off the team, they start walking,
and they just kinda start jawing back and forth
about what happened here.
And it was the second time of the day that Rory put,
I think Rory put his playing partners
in a really tough spot of like,
it takes a lot for these guys, we've seen this a lot,
takes a lot for them to speak up on one of these things.
And for it to happen twice,
I think there was some genuine frustration,
not out of spite towards Rory,
like both Hovland and Spieth were not in contention
with Rory, like pretty much from the jump today.
And it just becomes like a really tough spot
to have to step up and be like,
I don't really think it covered. And man, I, I'm sitting here questioning, like if I, if my own eyes
are deceiving me on all this, because I watched, I watched it bounce below that line and bounce
back in and Rory and Harry, I don't think they're lying. I think they are, I think they
truly believe it bounced above the line, but it also comes down to how we don't have a
camera there, how there's no technology, how there's not a spotter there. How do we not
have a referee stand on some of these awkward holes to't have a camera there how there's no technology how there's not a spotter there How do we not have a referee?
Stand on some of these awkward holes to like help dictate this if there's you know
We're if Roy got two favorable drops today
Which from my naked eye watching it it looked like he did and he goes on to win this tournament like that
Has an added impact on things right and it's just it leaves me to really it's this is not the first time to happen to TBC
Sawgrass and just felt very uncomfortable all around.
And I was really surprised that Rory was as aggressive
about it as he was.
Yeah, above the line, under arrest.
In my opinion.
No, I don't know.
It's, yeah, it leaves a sour taste in my mouth too.
And if your player, like if your playing partners
aren't great with it, then, you know I don't know like it's it's uh,
It's tricky. I just yeah, I just don't understand like like Tiger on 14
Like how do we not have a better system for this or how is there not a spotter on the holes where it's it's not?
Yeah, that's not first time this has happened, right? This is yeah
Yeah, like we watched that with Tiger and Casey Wittenberg in 2013. Soly, would you call it cavalier?
I think I kind of have to.
I mean, I don't think it was with malintent.
It just was like, dude, if you can't,
if you're not picking up on kind of the vibe
of the rest of the guy,
it's a very emotional thing
when you like hit a ball in the water.
Like there's a lot flowing through your brain. And like when it happens to me, I feel like I almost default
to like, you guys were watching those with clear eyes and I'm like, begging for this
ball to cross. I don't know if I saw it all the way. I just feel like you default to the
group in that situation. And again, like I said, it's a big hurdle for these guys to
speak up in that bold of a manner to slow down play for several minutes to like say this.
And it's like a certain point, like you got to kind of place a little bit of trust in
into what they feel on that.
I was it was really demonstrative to yeah, he was gesturing all over the place props
to the tour for for posting it.
Yeah.
And he just went live from laying out three or four years ago would never have even dreamt
of posting that.
I'm gonna step on my future moment of joy, TC,
because this is the spot for it.
That was it for me, was just sitting
and watching that full eight minute clip.
I mean, you guys know how I feel about this issue largely,
I feel like, which is, listen, I wasn't there either.
I, like, where it always gets to me is like
Either call somebody out or don't right? Like I don't know. I can't fucking see what he's doing. I
Anything? Yeah, I'm like, I don't know but this whole thing with like
It's just such a bad situation and solid to your points like nobody's
Nobody's doing anything
wrong
Necessarily like I think everybody's doing what they're supposed to be doing,
but it just puts Spieth in a weird spot where he's like, I don't know, man.
Like they're all saying it didn't, but like it depends what you say, but like,
but you're saying this and I don't know. But again, like that now radar,
that's what radar said. And it's,
and like Spieth is in a weird spot where he can't just come out and say like,
well, I don't, you know, he doesn't know definitively that it didn't cross.
And it's just, I don't know.
It's just a bad spot, which is where I circle back to my moment of joy was just sitting
and watching them all trying to figure it out was pure joy.
Truly.
It's like when my homes was pissed off about that spot this year.
Yeah.
You remember that? And it's like, all right, the NFL's a, you know,
a hundred, you know, or $500 billion entity
and they can't figure out like how to put RFID in the ball
or figure out spatial, you know, sensor stuff.
That's where it comes back to like,
depending on how tight you want to like zoom
into this issue to like try to get an answer. It's like, well, having pay and volunteers out there is probably
not like a great way to legislate this $25 million event, right? We're like that poor
guy like again, I would be doing the same thing if I was him. But like he's standing
there like just in the middle of these three athletes try to like figure it out. He's just
kind of like, Yeah, no, I'll support I'm with you guys. Whatever you guys, whatever you guys think, that's what I think
happened. And it's, it's just the worst, I don't know, it's just the worst possible way to like
do it. But I don't necessarily know what the other ways around it would be. So it's, it's just kind
of a, I think you just got to look at it as like more of a funny situation than anything, because I,
you know, certainly can't tell you
where it crossed or who's right or who's wrong or whatever.
Protect the field, baby.
I'll say it.
Which they're trying,
but I don't know what they can do differently.
If I'm wrong about what I saw on those two,
I have been wrong about hundreds of these over the years.
How I would normally practice,
like TC, if you try to take those drops,
if we're in a match together,
you'd be hearing about a Cavalier drop
for the next six to seven years, I think.
Like it would be-
So that says it all then, Sahli.
Like to me, that says it all.
Well, when we're playing a match,
like we would almost always default to like, yeah.
We're not playing for 25 million dollars.
I know.
That's where like, I don't know, that's where again,
I don't need to explain that I'm a massive Roy fan.
Like if Patrick Reed took that drop, I would be standing up right now just
shouting from the rooftop.
I'm trying to give this to Patrick Reed lens of like, you know,
this is obviously one of my favorite players.
How do I feel like to truly how I feel about it?
And it was just like, I don't know.
But then I'm like questioning my own sanity.
Like, did I did I see the ball bounce below the red line?
Like when I saw it, I, I, you know, now I've thought about it
for three hours afterwards. I'm like, dude, I mean, I assume I
did. Do I need my eyes checked? Like, I was 275 yards away.
Like, did I see what I think I saw? It just, it just then
ultimately, again, like I said, like, how do you end up? How do
these guys have to decide? And then Roy says we should split
the difference on-
I'm glad you said that. And-
I'm like, well, that's not it either.
That makes everybody wrong.
Vic said it's back by the turtles.
And so, yeah.
What a stupid story.
And there's no rules official for any of this?
There's no one there.
Someone came over and it all just comes back to like,
Roy, it's whatever you think, man.
Which again is like
Yeah, I don't know how you do it differently necessarily
But unless you just make that whole left side OB or something, but it's it's just a lot. It's just wild
I don't know. I mean could they not
Put a camera somewhere either up closer to the green looking back like down the hazard line or you know near the t-box
looking down the hazard line. With how much that bank just cuts out it's like impossible to see
where the hazard line is unless you have a camera like pointing at it yeah like pointing at it like
you'd have to almost have a camera i don't even know if that is still like an island like in the
middle of the of six and seven there, right?
Where you'd almost have to have like a camera facing back
that way just in case something like this happens,
which again, like sounds silly as you're saying it,
but I guess in a $25 million event,
you kind of do need to have something like that.
If I was trying to really Zapruder it,
and I was trying to break it down,
it took a pretty big bounce on TV.
And that's where it's like, trust me,
have hit it up. Thank you.
I have, much like Matt Everett,
I have hit it in the water there hundreds of times
back when I worked for the PJ Tour.
And that whole bank is so steep
and the red line does appear to be
at the bottom of that bank to where like,
if it was going to take a bounce that big,
I know I only took one year of engineering school,
but if it did take a bounce that big,
it seemed like it would have had to hit on the top
rather than if it hit below the line,
it just seemed like it would have bounced straight left.
Cody, you feeling me?
I thank you for saying that, DJ.
I agree with you 100,000%.
And that's where I was like,
Sully, you gotta stick with your guns here.
It's impossible for that ball to land below the red line
and get that bounce that it got.
It's not impossible because that is like what it did.
Like that is what I saw it do.
Like again, I was hoping that it would cross.
So you're saying it hit below the red line.
In my mind, from what I saw,
that ball hit below the red line.
Like, and again, I didn't like commit it to memory.
I can't like replay it.
It was just like, I want it to carry.
Like cover, cover, cover hits.
And I was like, fuck, that did not cover. And I don't replay it, it was just like, I want it to carry, cover, cover, cover hits, and I was like, fuck, that did not cover.
And I don't know, I saw the same angle later,
I saw the same image and I was like, huh,
maybe I am fucking crazy, but everyone,
there was standing with three or four other media members,
we all talked about it like five minutes afterwards,
because again, what happened, it was so obvious to me,
but five minutes later, I'm like, that did not cross, right?
And they're like, no, that did not cross cross that did not and but like yeah I watched the film
and I'm kind of like well shit did I have the line totally wrong am I looking at it I don't know
that's where it's just like all right I've been conspiracy theory is Rory trying to
put some some kindling on the fire like some some, some, uh, I need a chip on my shoulder.
I'm wearing all black today.
I'm going to be a villain.
I'm gearing up for Augusta.
You think he was just trying to alpha them with, with the drop?
Just, I'm just saying, you know, maybe, maybe he's like, you know what?
Nobody believes me.
Right.
I'm going to go win Augusta.
Maybe, maybe, maybe. Yeah. Maybe I didn't to go win Augusta. Maybe.
Maybe.
Yeah, maybe. I didn't have that was my first.
Sorry, were you close to anybody?
Anybody want to hear what Rory has to say?
Like, is anybody interested in that?
Sure.
Seen on the seventh, was that necessary in your eyes?
It was all a bit needless.
Um, I think Jordan was just trying to make sure that I was doing the right thing.
I mean I was pretty sure that my ball had crossed where I was sort of dropping it and
and it's so hard right because it's there was no TV evidence I was adamant but you know I think
again Henke was just trying to make sure that I was going to do the right thing.
If anything, I was being conservative with it.
I think at the end of the day, we're all trying to protect ourselves, protect the field as well.
I wouldn't say it was needless. I think he was just trying to make sure that what happened was the right thing.
I think what we need is, is when there's a punt or a kick that goes out of bounds and the ref runs up to the spot, like this, like that's what we need.
And we need like a zebra.
What's the guy's name on live DJ on the Tonyeletubby? Tony's are fully Tony's are fully a
bunch of Tony's are bullies out there. And
Zebra, maybe that's the kind of shit that we can
be using this SSG money for. That's it. Three
billion dollars sitting in the bank account. Get
a couple of zebras out there. It doesn't make you
wonder how they're not positioning volunteers a
little bit more strategically on some of these
holes. Right? I think it's got to be a rules official though. Like it's a players like there's several holes where this can happen like a lot at
TPC right? I mean having a rules official on 18 T for the 72nd hole
especially like set feels like it could be really important come Sunday if this if this happens to somebody that has a one-shot lead
Or a two-shot lead and is taking a Cavalier drop, right? Like, it just feels like, again,
I feel bad for all the players involved here
because I think Rory truly believes this.
Like, you just don't do that unless,
you just don't do that.
You don't do that unless you have
some serious conviction that it did.
And like at the same time, the other guys playing there,
playing with them did not see it that way.
And it's just really, really fricking hard to do
from 275 to 300 yards away.
You know which player I feel bad for, Solly?
Wyndham Clark, who continues to show up and now is getting overshadowed again by Dropgate.
The only guy that keeps showing up when the lights are the brightest.
He comes in, shoots another 65 today, ties the lead and you know, just got to give him
his due.
I believe he him his due.
I believe he got his due on the Wednesday show when someone picked him to win this week.
So, and might've even been able to
a little personal dabble going into this.
I sprinkle it.
I did a little, just a little,
just sprinkled a little bit on there.
I mean, I think it was 55 to one.
Like it just did not make sense.
It's crazy.
He's played.
It don't make sense, Big.
Have you seen how high Bitcoin is?
Of course, I'm like, of course, I guys splash and
splash and outright winners.
Thank you, Rainier.
That's the first time you've you've acknowledged how high Bitcoin is.
That means a lot to me.
Yeah, guys, I'll say somebody else I feel bad for.
Tommy, who hit it, who was absolutely flashing.
It was five under at the the time goes to seven.
It's in the water there and he makes triple,
but he dropped it almost all the way back at the tee.
Makes you think, makes you think.
Maybe he's not alpha.
Yeah.
He respects the field.
Um, yeah, I know TC wants to move on from Wyndham Clark, but I do think we should pause on that for just this for just a second. He respects the game, he respects the field.
I know TC wants to move on from Wyndham Clark, but I do think we should pause on that
for just a second.
You could set that out then, because the dude is,
like as we've mentioned multiple times
over the last several weeks,
continues to flash in all facets of the game.
You know, not a course that in theory
would jump off the page to be a perfect fit for him.
It kind of throttles driver a little bit
But eighth and approach today and third in putting that's gonna play anywhere hit eight fairways
He had 175 into the 16th hole like he is he's a birdie force right now, and
I'm obviously really liking where he's sitting. I have no issue with with Wyndham personally
it's it's just like the way he plays the game. And I feel like he just aims 30 yards left
and hits driver as hard as he possibly can
with a 30 yard, you know, spinny cut on it.
And it goes 340.
Like everything that I don't like about the modern game
rolled into one player.
I can't discount any of that.
And what you feel watching him,
I feel like I largely feel the same,
but this would be at least like we talk about venues. It's pretty dramatically different venues.
Yeah. If he was to go on and win here, it's like Quail Hollow, LACC, Pebble, Sawgrass is like,
well, that's kind of a golfer. And almost Bay Hill.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, we got a lot of time between then and now.
Yeah, well we got a lot of time between then and now.
And you know, speaking of guys, everybody loves to watch Xander as well.
Just like, dude has been, you know, you might not like it,
but you must admit,
guy is playing some absolute golf right now.
Clean card too.
Yeah, dude, he's just, you know,
I feel like some of the Chris Como stuff
has been a little under the radar just cause he doesn't,
you know, he doesn't, you know,
he doesn't hashtag win very much,
but it seems like he's made some sizable changes
in his golf swing and it seems to be quite sustainable
because he's playing really freaking good golf right now.
We have a lot of leaderboard stuff to get to,
but before we do that, I want to, let's pause
and we'll do our, let's bring some more joy
back to the show. I know coming off Xander and
Wyndham TC it's a it's a tough thing for you to this is for you the joy is for
you brought to you by our friends at Footjoy as a reminder these are moments
that occurred somewhere in the golf world including our own experiences that
had us feeling the joy we're gonna go around the horn here's some feel the joy
moments from the team Randy I'm gonna start it with you. What was your moment?
Well, I think we should end with me, Solly.
So why don't we go clockwise around our screen?
Okay, I'll go first then.
My moment of joy today,
this was highly distributed on the social channels,
but our guy Adam Hadwin just really like almost like
it was a drill like a throwing the club drill absolutely hooked his club into the water
on the 18th hole the iconic 18th hole at TPC Sawgrass knowing that was going to make the
rounds on social.
Where did the club cross?
Where did it cross Twitter?
He took an egregious drop on the next one, of course, but no it was a fantastic huck and I just wanted to celebrate that
Do you see golf clubs sink right? That's a stupid question, but they sink
Okay, or metal get water in the shaft. Well, I just didn't know how dense or buoyant, you know
Yeah, mine, you know a lot of different ways we could go with this.
I walked out today and immediately saw Ludwig Eagle number two, but my moment of joy was
coming back in from watching Max and others on the back nine this evening, gorgeous weather
and everything. And, you know, I come back in and two individuals are playing,
are hucking something else. They're hucking a pigskin back
in the flash area near the media center just in a big patch of
grass.
Caleb Williams?
It was a well, that was my first thought. So I like this guy,
just an absolute rocket arm. And I'm thinking, oh my gosh, this is Caleb Williams. Solly walked around with Caleb Williams all
day was giving him all sorts of Chicago tips. Wrigleyville, Lincoln Park, all sorts of local
joints up there. But no, it was, it was just throwing the pigskin with his, with his son.
And I said, Chesson, what'd you shoot today? He said, not good, but it doesn't matter. Look
at this, man. Look at us. What kind of quarterback you think Chesson would be?
Brock Osweiler. That's what I call Chesson would be like, uh, I'm trying to think who was like a
super skinny, like kind of, you know, kind kind of loopy, long motion, not the quickest
release, but that just made me happy.
He was out there, his son's probably-
Daniel Rodabaugh TC from our Miami, Ohio days.
Yeah, I could see some of that.
Yeah.
Indoor legend now.
But yeah, I don't know.
That just made me happy.
I love, like that's my favorite thing to do with my son is throw the football.
I think Chesson shot two or three over today. For him to just
be hanging out throwing the football, having a beer is sweet.
I love it. I kind of mentioned mine with watching the eight minute
full uncut gems just word worded it across conversation.
But I'll also throw out micro moment of joy.
The feeling I had watching Scottie finish off his round
today was like, you know what?
I got a guy that I'm rooting for to dominate right now.
And that was, I feel like we haven't had that in a while
and watching him make bogey at the first
and then just kind of turn that into like the most boring,
you know, 67 you've ever seen in your life was like,
all right, that's cool.
We haven't had one of those guys for quite a while
and it made me very happy that Scotty's doing it.
Can we get you to root for Scotty TC?
Can we get you on board?
I root for Scotty.
You can get me to root, well, yeah, yeah, I mean, you know. I'm close, solid. I to root for Scotty TC? Can we get you on board? I root for Scotty. You can get me to root. Well, yeah. I mean, it's, you know. I'll root for history, right? If he's,
that's kind of where it's at, but it's got to, we got to, it's got to be majors and that sort of
thing. We got to be cognizant and very sure that we're witnessing history. Also, a lot of people
in the comments saying, I witnessed Mike Glennon out there. Yeah, Mike Glennon's a good one.
Passing the ball with his son.
That's good.
And somebody else said,
golf the only sport we can tell
where a ball crossed from 280,
but we can confuse Chess and Hadley
with Caleb Williams for 40 yards.
Chip, that was a joke, my man.
So.
Big guy, bring us home.
Oh, I'll segue us.
Cause I told Cody, I'm like, man, you know what my moment of joy was?
Was just looking at the leaderboard and seeing a lot of good,
interesting names in the mix.
We've talked about the guys at Seven Under,
Rory, and Xander, and Wyndham.
But you go deeper into the leaderboard and finally,
we're starting to like Matt Fitzpatrick.
Welcome back buddy.
Former US Open champion shoots six under.
Jason Day, Ludwig, loves seeing Ludwig.
Very curious what he's gonna do the next three days.
Scheffler feels like, you know,
we're near the floor of his abilities, but he's five under.
You get deeper there.
You got Max Holma at four under.
You got Hideki at three under,
we know he can get hot around here.
So it's finally, it felt like a leaderboard commensurate
with a big event.
And again, that's a nice place to be
and brought me a little bit moment of joy this evening.
The one name that I wanna add there too
is Michael Kim's in the chat
right now he's also there at 400 big I know you just blew past his name you
don't care about him at all. I didn't think he'd be in the chat. I appreciate him. Almost had a
hole-in-one on 17 but keep it up buddy. Apparently Johnson Wagner's also out
hucking balls off the bank on 7 trying to identify a pattern and how they're
bouncing which I may have to check out that segment a bit later.
This is what you people are asking for,
what you're doing with where did it cross Twitter.
Just let the professionals do their job and move on.
I felt like Scottie's round today,
it's wild how 67 feels like even par for him now.
That truly was just like, oh. Well, hold hold on you're just gonna totally skip over Nick Taylor I
was he brought up Scotty he brought up Scotty you can bring you we can talk
about Nick tell what do you have a clean card to you hate can card committee
that's a tough look Sally take it away you can you can have it TC no actually I
don't have that I pull that back I pull actually, I forgot that. I pull that back. I pull that back. I pull that back.
Solid round from Ludwig.
He's five under par.
You got Foxy hole in one on 17 today.
Very cool.
Core setup.
Let's talk a little bit about that.
It's rained a lot here, but I've, you know, all week have been saying.
It hasn't rained a lot.
It's been a little bit wet lately.
It's spring. It rained on Saturday. It hasn't rained a lot. It's been a little bit wet lately. It's spring, it rained on Saturday.
It hasn't rained since then.
The fucking greens are like soup.
To clarify, it's been a very wet winter
and it dumped rain on Saturday night.
And we talked about that on Monday and it was like,
okay, it's very soft now.
I think they'll dry out.
I think they'll dry out.
I think they'll dry out.
And they have not dried out.
And apparently-
They haven't turned the sub-airs on.
Apparently it's called precision air.
And I don't know if they've been in use.
Can you confirm that they have not turned them on TC?
Many people are saying sources are saying I cannot confirm.
I haven't confirmed with the tour.
You gotta remember this is our first players championship
post-pastor as well.
So there's a new sheriff in town, right?
And all that stuff.
So we don't know how they're doing it there. But
between the greens, it was actually kind of interesting on
17 today, because there's, there's so soft that guys are
worried about ripping the ball all the way off. But a lot of
guys getting saved by the strips of rough when there's bumper
around bumpers in the lanes. Yeah, it takes a little bit of
the edge off of it, though. I feel like we should reheat just super quick
in case people haven't heard it,
the wash camo idea where they should shave like dashes
into the green where like, almost like gates.
You know, you have three feet of heavy rough
that will stop a ball
and then you have three feet of clean mode
directly into the water. And I just, I was thinking about that today. I think,
you know, for instance, I forget who that was. Uh, it looks like Kevin, you,
uh, soldier soldier boy, that that could have, you know, it's a 50 50 ball.
Maybe it gets caught up in the rough and maybe it spins right, you know,
right through one of the, the wickets, but I'm sorry. Continue.
The only, so I think that there's some bad uses,
usage of these rough strips, obviously.
I think the one left of 18 is like,
you could speath blew away right today,
tried to punch out and got totally saved
by the rough from going in there.
Adam Scott apparently had an incident this morning,
blowing one over the green on 12, got saved,
gets up and down easily for par, that's a problem.
17, I think I'm okay with that to a certain extent
because if it's not,
otherwise you're just gonna end up
with the most boring shots at that hole.
Like everyone's gonna bail long up to that top tier
and not take on trying to stick one into the front
if the penalty is that severe.
Like, cause so many balls would have rolled in the water
today and it would have led to almost no shots at that one.
I think that whole green should be blown up.
It'd be sick.
And redone.
I just don't think it's a very good green itself.
And so in combination,
I think there's a way to do it without that rough,
but the way the current green is constructed,
I think that could have been not so good today.
Can you imagine how much money
we're talking to blow it up?
Just with like lost revenue
and cost of the construction and everything.
I would love to see like an itemized sheet
on how much that would cost.
What if they built a second island?
Because I had to play the right way.
Or if they connected it to the intercoastal,
they could bring in like an aircraft carrier
and have you hit to that and then.
That'd be fun.
Or I think the concert going up there.
Easy answer is take the tree out, build a temporary green there,
let everybody play that for a while while you redo the other.
Be truly an island green.
I will say the other thing that bugged me about the rough and just some of the setup today was
this is nitpicking, but it seems like the rough right off of the fairways,
I was talking to a couple of players after they finished about this, today was just the misses nitpicking, but it seems like the rough right off of the fairways.
I was talking to a couple of players after they finished about this, the rough right off of the
fairways seems to be some of the thickest stuff out there. So you miss by six inches and you're in.
I've actually called for that before. I actually kind of like that. The reverse graded rough,
where if you're going for the fairway, you better hit the fairway. And if you, if you're going for the fairway you better hit the fairway
and if you if you're gonna miss you better miss big-time left or right but a
key stoop this thing I've ever it's well a key for sawgrass though is they're
gonna have the bank about it if they have bad rough on one side they almost
certainly have something else on the other side pine straw bunkers moguls
there's like something else that's like instead of the Bay Hill thick
rough down both sides, like there's always you know there's an angle to the fairway and there's
always like a other different place you could hit it that is not thick rough. Like I don't know if
you go into the thick rough left of five it's because you know you're bailing away from the
bunker that runs along the right side. Well I think part of it almost yeah is some of the moguls on some of the greens like on you know the right side of five or right side of nine different spots
there where it's like yeah it just feels like all right like your ball can start running down you
know bounces and bounces and it gets caught in the last three inches of rough and you're gouging it
out right I'll say the greens are not firm enough though to
like this is a rare case where like I don't mind the long rough because if the greens are
going to be soft having short rough would just it would be very easy like the shots around the
green would be extremely easy. Forecast looks good I mean we're in for really like nice, you know, low tonight at 62, high
tomorrow. It's gonna be exactly the same tomorrow. 78 degrees high, partly sunny, light south
winds. Saturday 79 degrees, possibly up into the mid 80s, west winds. So it's gonna be
hot and dry for this time of year. It's gonna be awesome taking the wife out tomorrow. We're gonna you know
Non working capacity tomorrow margaritas only tomorrow. So a question we got from W Gordon 28
Any observation from watching spieth in person today seems like now the putter is working the ball striking is all over the place
Spieth in person today seems like now the putter is working the ball striking is all over the place
Yeah, I'm wondering if Spieth's play contributed to like a
You know if it was kind of a cyclical thing of kind of the couple squabbles He had you know
he's a little frustrated to begin with and and it definitely seemed like it was a distraction of some kind and I kind of
Feel for him in that regard. It's kind of it
It's kind of an incident where it's just gonna get your heart rate up a little bit something
You don't really want to deal with while you're trying to grind out around the golf. But I
overheard him talking to Greller a little bit about their tee shot when he kind of missed right on
seven. And he's like, I wish I could tell you that I was bailing over here, but I'm just that off.
I felt like that was going to be a good swing, and I was just that off. He does not inspire a lot of
confidence in the way he's talking in the middle of some of these rounds. So no, I was I've been
a little discouraged on the on the Lynx master and from what I witnessed up
close again just like watching him I'm just like looking around the landscape
of like dude he couldn't like hold a candle to Rory today you know Scotty
like you're gonna go beat that guy right now like Wyndham Clark like they're just
there's guys that are in a different
Tier and category
Uh and jordan it's gonna take a lot for him to lead to get back up into that category and like win like we
Expect him to so
You gotta remember this is not a lynx
Uh, it's a florida lynx. Yeah, and he's probably you know, this means he's probably gonna win the masters by like six
I hope so words right out of my mouth
I'm curious from you guys. Give me give me one name who's going forward tomorrow. Who's going backwards tomorrow?
I think scottie is gonna keep coming. Wow
Do it look at look at big randy out there on on his own on that limb get that in writing
I bet Rory goes backwards. Well, don't game the system. Come on, you know the spirit of what I'm asking
I think it's gonna get tougher as the day goes along tomorrow
Like I think the guys that were early late are probably a little bit of a disadvantage
I'm looking for max to go out early and
kind of
post something, put it up there, set it, you know, put it on the board, shoot 64, 65 in the morning and then go kick his
feet up in the afternoon. Go fiesta time.
If I may, I'm gonna, I'm gonna attach onto that bandwagon here
TC with with Max, I got dinner with him last night, and I've
never seen him so.
Like cocky is not the right word, the truly confident was the right word in terms of like where he was at mentally and like feels like he's on like the 300
level class of, you know, advancing mentally and his approach and everything
was the big key for him is just like getting off the bus, getting out and
playing well on a Thursday, like he gets, you know, gets going and in contention,
like he we've seen him play really, really well.
He just sometimes struggles to get off the bus,
and when he got off the bus today, that's like, okay,
it might be go time for Max this week.
I'm buying.
Backwards, listen, I'm just gonna say it.
I'm gonna say Hogecoin goes backwards.
I mean, it's a bull market, I get it.
Everyone's getting you know, happy
Fat and happy off all these cryptos that are on the rise, but hoes coin
It's a scam. It's a scam. I'm not buying record holder Sally 62
I'm going down the board. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say Mark Hubbard goes forward tomorrow
Guy ball struck the shit out of it today. Third in ball striking almost lasted putting we might have a homeless problem in ball county St. John's. I think that's a fun
one to watch. You know, whenever you have somebody with a big big Delta like that, that's
a fun, you know, can't wait to see what happens tomorrow. I'll throw another one out there.
I think Kadecki makes a move. You know, he boge he bogeyed two today that's a bad bogey.
I think his round tomorrow's starting off should be two shots better automatically. I'm looking for
Kadeki to make a little move. You know you got to worry about his mindset though Randy that
Japanese rocket blew up. That is right. That might be weighing heavily. I'm about to transition us to a
positive Amsterdam segment but I'll start it with a negative of let's cool
it on the Ponte Vedra commercials. Like we are full here. There's a lot of
traffic down here now. We don't need you telling people about how incredible
Jack's Beach and Ponte Vedra are. It really did stunt today. The images were
incredible. They got some really good plane shots of showing the proximity of TPPC. I've never seen that on the air from them, like a
proximity shot of showing where TPC Sawgrass sits in relation to the ocean,
showed some images upon a VDrennen club and the other golf in the area. It was
like a lot of people saying a lot of great things about Jack's right now,
which I'm joking about a little bit to say like it. Appreciate the shout outs
here because it's not your typical Florida city.
This is a great, great place to live and visit.
And I'm truly happy for a lot of people
that work so hard at this tournament
that they get a great week
because they've gotten dealt a couple of tough hands
in the last several years.
Yeah, including COVID.
Just to say the Amsterdam, you know,
if you're new to the show,
this is where we try to isolate
when we usually complain about coverage of golf tournaments. I have nothing negative to say the hamster damn, you know our if you're new to the show This is where we try to isolate when we usually complain about coverage of golf tournaments
I have nothing negative to say literally other than the column or cow commercial was on quite a bit
But it's limited commercials. It's more announcers more tech more tracers more stuff to show off Mike
Torey co always elevates an event it they they just did an excellent job of on a, making it feel like an important event.
And the branding of it is just very, very strong.
And probably added to the fact of just,
I really enjoyed going to the tournament
and always have great memories of this week.
But just felt like they did it justice
and it all seemed to fit.
And it was like, if golf coverage looked like this,
we would not complain the way we do.
Hear, hear.
From afar, it was a from afar. It was.
It was a delightful watch.
I was, you know, I were kind of.
Kind of saying when the when the fifth
major conversation starts to come around,
it's like you know both things are true.
Like all that matters is the majors
and also this week feels like it matters.
So it's like I'm not saying it is a major,
but I'm saying it is getting treated
like one from a NBC perspective at least.
And it's, it's much appreciated.
I'll say just the negative, you know, Sally, I think pulling that thread,
I, weeks like this, just what they do is drive home, like what a difference
there is between the other weeks when NBC is is responsible for coverage and it's just
I don't know it's not a great look for the coverage to be that different when it's the
same broadcast part like I'm struggling to think of other examples around sports where it's like
oh this week ah the coverage is going to be kind of shitty you know because you're just not going
to show you the second quarter of the game.
Yeah, they just don't think it's that big of a deal and whatever.
But like this week, this will be sweet because they're actually like trying.
I it's really weird.
Are there any cops to tennis?
There's gotta be some similarities now.
Well, this is such a fixed, you know, one ball and one court.
It's you can't really change all that much.
Yeah, I know. Like there's a big tennis event going on this week the big Indian Wells event
which is like honestly one of their biggest non majors and
You know tennis channel has it and it's great, but I don't really notice. You know a huge difference
Well, I shouldn't say that because they have people on site
So I guess yeah, you can draw a little bit of a comparison with tennis.
But if any of the big networks or ESPN were to do tennis, it would not look different
week to week.
It's more like a tennis channel thing, which I don't want to make the comparison to golf
channel per se.
Just it feels like it's a reasonable request
that elevated signature, whatever you wanna call the events
like should be on par with this, right?
Like that's like regular, like the cognizant,
do I think it needs to have this level of investment?
Like, no, it doesn't really work that way.
And it flattens, you know,
but if you really want these big events to stand out,
it needs to look a lot more like this,
brand them different, do something different.
Like it just, again, different leaderboard graphics
makes it feel different.
I know that sounds so petty, but like I really do think it,
you know, adds to the importance of the event.
But I think that's it.
I would say it's differentiate and then dimensionalize.
D&D.
I know this is where my internet cut out last time
when I was making this point,
but this is where like, it's just so hard when you don't
Decide that it's two tours right when you're trying to convince
you know the cognizance and the Genesis is and
The 3m's and the Wells Fargo's and all these people that like no no this is all the same thing
And then behind closed doors like no no no yours is way bigger, don't worry.
No, no, no, we still totally care about yours.
We're gonna have a bunch of great players there.
No, but trust me, the old big players only care
about your tournament is where it's like,
well, yeah, you just can't do that.
That's where, again, it's not unlike the drop situation.
You wanna keep scrolling in.
There's just, I don't know, it's a big fucking mess
of ripped up wires, man.
I think we need to just burn
the house down.
I will say on the positive thing too, earlier this week, the golf channel guys were getting
a little chippy with the tour. They were shitting all over Jay and all the money talk and all
that stuff. And when you've got your broadcast partner slash somewhat state run media getting chippy like that.
I like that.
I'm for that.
Like keep that up guys.
Well, it's the best.
I mean, it's even as simple as I know
it's not necessarily one-to-one, but Randy,
Sally, you guys know this.
Like MLB network is not like watching the golf channel,
right?
There's actual opinions being expressed.
There's actual news being broken.
And it's just like, I just keep coming back to like,
why does golf have to feel different than other sports?
It's so frustrating.
I would say DJ, the first thing that comes to my mind is
in no other sport is the good guy class act narrative.
Do they try to push that as much as they do?
I feel like in golf.
You know?
Which, you know, praise progress.
They did post the big, you know,
the little where did it cross kerfuffle.
So I guess it's, it seems like at least they're aware of it,
which I'm sure they always have been.
It's just now they're feeling slightly more empowered
to dip their toe into the waters of like,
well, what if we posted it?
What if we talked about it?
What if we had that conversation on the golf channel?
And hopefully they'll see that no one's gonna die.
It's gonna be okay.
No one's gonna get dropped by their sponsors.
So it's, you know, people might even be more interested.
Worth noting, they have been doing this
for a couple of years now.
Like when the Reed incident happened,
like as of like 2021, they started doing some of this,
right, like they started posting
some of the more controversial stuff.
I don't think this is like a live creation
of like now they're doing that, yeah.
No, I'm more speaking-
There was a massive full scale conspiracy against Reed,
so you gotta kind of throw that out.
That's true, that's actually, I just think I just got,
that's gonna be submitted as evidence.
And there was all those right pins today too.
The, more speaking to the fact that like what TC was saying
about Golf Channel,
cause I feel like even in the past,
especially players week,
I mean, there's kind of like a guy standing, you know,
off screen just basically being like,
hey, what we gotta talk FedEx Cup points more.
Hey, we gotta talk about this.
We gotta give some love to the proud partners.
Hey, you mentioned the Masters.
Yeah, maybe they're chilling about it, which is good.
Two things I wanna add, DG gave a shout out to ESPN.
Plus, I thought their crew was awesome.
Again, Every is a rock star on that.
Ryan Burr with one of the craziest lines today,
shouting out Spies 2013 season. I was like
really? Yeah. John Deere. Yeah he's been one of the 10 best years in the history of the sport.
I think he probably met 15 but that's you know. The only other thing is that again awesome job
you know presenting this and it I agree with you guys all signature events should look like this
But in a time when there's like lawsuits being thrown around and everything
Within like NBC Comcast is pretty glaringly obvious that the only female voice that you'll see is a third chair from the live
From C and that's when Anna steps in here is not on site. She's back in the studio
You would think that they would find something. I love our guy Damon, but you know, where's Kira's not on site, she's back in the studio. You would think that they would find something.
I love our guy Damon, but you know, where's Kira at?
Why does Kira like have to do all these mule events
when you get to signature events season?
Like she's nowhere to be found.
I don't know.
It's just crazy when you look at it,
what they could be presenting
and when you're trying to grow things again,
you know, those voices matter.
Yeah, yeah, that's very hard. If you say that though, then that's what that's that's when they bring Christina Kim in. We can't have that either. Literally the back of my mind is like,
I need to get over TZ soon as Cody mentioned is like, I know what's coming. I can see this
from a mile away. I'm not that predictable.
T.C., we've known each other a long time, brother.
In a very teeny, Cody, just to extrapolate that a hair,
I think it's interesting, like we were all texting today about Jeff Shackelford always, you know,
a must read newsletter all the time,
but he had a great line in there about how, you know, kind of the tour likes to take credit for like, oh, the game's growing. Must be us. Oh,
the game shrinking. Not our fault. You know, the pro games booming, you know, and like, I think
they like to be front runners in that regard. And it is interesting to see like, oh my God,
the game's being taken up by so many young women. This is amazing. This is the fastest growing
element of the sport.
We've never even acknowledged that they exist, but you know, we're rooting for it. We think
that's great. And that's, I think to your point on the telecast, Cody, like there's
probably a pretty low hanging dub to be had there.
So I'm asking, I'm not, listen, I'm not the woke police out here. That's not what I'm
saying. But I'm saying that there's like, extremely competent people out there that
can fucking do this thing. Yeah, you're not those you're not the
little strips of rough. You're not woke like those.
Ruff is woke.
I want I want to jump in earlier because you are dead wrong on
17. I can't believe they let you get away with that to that rough
it should be abolished. It's crazy that it's there right
there.
Or make it a little bit shorter. What are we asking me?
I was these guys are professionals.
They're the best in the game.
Come on guys.
Can we shave it for the weekend?
I would, maybe there's a compromise to be had.
Like, let's get out there and shave it
for the third and fourth rounds
when we have not as many guys playing.
It's an entertainment product.
Hit the fucking shot and control your spin, guys.
Again, I have said this in years years past easily the most cartoonish manufactured hole in the history of humankind
Brandy I feel like you should just have like artificial turf that you could either take up or put down depending on the wind
Right if it's gonna be windy. Yeah, we'll put the put the strips down keep the balls on the green
Oh, it's not gonna be a need dome golf today
Yank them up. Let's see.
Or to Sully's point, we're gonna put some fake grass up on
the back part of the green to try to take away that long
play. Shrink the green a little bit. We don't need the whole
back portion of pins up front. You know, just make that, I
don't know, make that sand or something back there. The only
other crazy green thing was I guess there's was a groundhog issue or something like that
on 10 green that they've been working on.
It just messed up the back right and left portion
of that green.
So you're not gonna get a pin back there at all this week.
I might have to go put some groundhogs around 12 green
if I can.
Just see if they'll blow it up.
It's a great risk reward hole. Do you
see we learned that every year? I will say Max hit a really
good one. He was in the left bunker. He had a bad tee shot.
He was in the left bunker, maybe 80 yards out and had an
exceptional shot in there. He should he hit it. He was like
260 out on 11 and he had this three wood and he hits it 20
feet from the pine straw. Oh, like I was like, this is how they're gonna go
really good or really bad.
Hit it there, he hit some golf shots.
I'm a stretch today.
Again, not asking everyone to agree with golf course takes,
but like when we're angling at something,
it's something like that to say like,
this shot is possible, at least out of pine straw.
Like if there was thick rough there,
Max would have been punching out
and like watching punch outs on repeat is not entertaining. Over water, over a bunker,
to a green with like a ton of risk reward. You can bail left all you want but it's really hard up and
down. Like that was a really earned golf shot. There was a lot of risk in that and you're able
to pull it off. That is the style of golf I like a lot more than than hacking out rough. I'm not
telling you what you like but that that is the specific example of the conversation
over the last several weeks.
God, how good was Scottie's punch on 18?
Did you see that?
The one that got all the way up to the green.
It was the one that,
the one that lesser players like to like flip over
and punch into the water.
He's like, no, I'll just take it.
And, and I've even, I think,
God, who was over there?
And then, well, that was the most famous one for sure
when Cam punched him.
Who had it to, or I guess Max kind of did it on 16
where he just kind of punched it down the fairway.
But usually guys will just like lay it up to, you know,
80 yards, 90 yards, whatever.
Scotty's like, no, I'll just take on the whole green.
I'll just force it up there and two putt for my par
in my little 67.
Cool moment today on the ninth hole.
It's kind of a sentence I never thought I would say for tonight, but I'm
literally squatting right next to Caleb Williams and Rory's in the pine straw and
he's got to hit this.
He's got this gap between these two trees to punch it over the water and
into that second fairway, but he goes right of the far right tree and
hooks it all around.
And as he's getting set up for it,
Caleb's like, what's he doing?
What's he doing?
And he like hits this ball and it takes off.
And he goes, oh shit.
Like, there's just this huge banking right to left.
This dude doesn't even know golf.
And this huge banking right to left shot,
like that stuck out in his mind of, you know,
being a highly entertaining golf shot and that was
that's brought to you by pine straw. Speaking of right of the far right trees Jack was on the
broadcast today cool you guys probably missed that. Well actually that was gonna be my my second
moment of joy seeing Jack I heard I heard they wouldn't let him in the players club.
Seeing Jack, I heard they wouldn't let him in the players club.
You know, I want this tournament, right?
Jason L. Schwartz said Gary Koch sounds great and adds a lot to the broadcast, hasn't lost
a step. Well, NBC acknowledged this and bring him back into the rotation, even
just for big events like the US Open.
It sounds like not unless he wants to work for like, yeah,
pay them. Yeah. Well, Gary, we'll tag you on Instagram. like, he's a pay them to work.
Yeah, well, Gary will tag you on Instagram.
We're not gonna pay you any cash.
I was over at the Marriott.
I've always, always, full on Cokehead.
You guys know this.
Always been a Gary Coke guy.
You don't like him?
He said of course.
Oh, huge Cokehead.
Oh, huge Cokehead.
I was like, no.
Always makes me.
I was over at the Marriott yesterday.
Carter always has good things to say.
On Tuesday and Maltby was standing out front on the front drive smoking, ripping a heater.
I was like, God, I miss Raj.
I know rules.
I think for big events, if they're going to go for elevated crews, again, that's another
way to make some stuff feel elevated.
Right.
I mean, I don't, I kind of like the youth movement that got going and some new voices,
but for the big events, I think, you know, there's enough, they're, they're on the air
enough to bring some of these voices back. So I like that.
I texted every, I said, I said, the people are absolutely raving about your performance
today. He said, hell yeah. Love hearing that. They hide me, get me out there.
He needs to make a play, get me out there, baby.
He needs to make a play, get himself out there, insert himself into some of this drama.
Guys, anybody that was a stinker today,
you're just exceptionally disappointed in.
I mean, Collin continues to just be kind of nothing.
It should be the perfect golf course for him, right?
We were curious about Zeltor. Yeah, Zeltor's for me. Zeltor's for me course for him, right? We were curious about our
As out towards really have it. It's out to me was he was in the tournament open for solid You're gonna address the Tom Kim WD
Yeah, my god TK had to withdraw with an onus. He was plus five three dream dehydration
Too thirsty TC hit me with that early. I was like, oh really I didn't know that he's like that fucking TC
You want to talk about your boy Vic? That's a guy that that another stinker
Yeah, I don't know and Valomaki
Yeah, if all minds of the Finnish media, there's a lot of Finnish media in the
Valomaki is such a unit so I never walking by on the other day. I was like, holy shit
Can I ask you a question TC Nick Hardy also TC? also TC. When is he going to become the best player
in the world? I'm told this keep this is imminent.
They doubled his last hole today. He doubled nine. We can't have that. He made a mess up by the green.
Can I ask you a question? TC just not doing money. You may. We drafted six years out. We did that a
couple of weeks ago in the
pod, everybody got to pick, you know, we came up with a point system if you missed it, eight points
for majors, two for signature events, blah, blah, blah. You had the first overall pick if you're
drafting for production straight up over the next six years. You took Ludvig, or you, sorry, you took
Victor Hovland, number one overall. Any regret on not taking Scottie Scheffler as we sit here just a couple weeks
later?
No, no, none whatsoever. I think Scottie is much older than he's like one of those Cuban
baseball players that we don't have his first certificate.
Our pools?
He might be much older than we know.
Old legs.
Yeah. I'm actually more worried about Nick Dunlap on my squad.
It's not good. It's a very small sample size still. It's
only been a couple weeks, a couple months since he won his event. But there's something to be said
for, you can't get everything right. And there's something to be said for getting these guys to
the PGA Tour super, super fast and like really creating some on ramps and
really getting, you know, getting turnover and making the product exciting. And also
like these guys going through proper development and, you know, forging like the necessary
skills over the requisite time that it takes. So I'm not saying by any stretch that that's
what's happening in Nick Dunlap, but it's interesting to watch as that that happens
a couple of times, I feel like.
Guys, I sense us getting towards the end of the show. We had a great, Sully gave a shout out to Adam Hadwin
throwing in the ultimate chuck,
and we got his wife's comments on that,
obviously, flash them up on the screen.
Nick Taylor absolutely like flushing it.
I love watching him hit the golf ball.
I think these Canadians are such crazy ball strikers,
but I cannot get it out of my head, DJ.
After you said this,
that he only wears those black Adidas shoes,
does he only wear black pants too?
Because it could be one of the worst fits possible.
I can't get it out of my head.
If Neil was here, he would say, blow by him.
Yeah.
Speaking of bad fits, I to give a reverse shout out
to Adidas for the hat that they keep putting Ludwig in. Yeah, look, he looks real good.
Vicks got a small head. Like I you know, I have a small dome. Ludwig's got a small head
and they keep putting him in. It's like a Brandon Wu special, but Brandon Wu's got a really
big head. Ludwig, like the hat is I think I think he's back on
like the third notch. It is so it's so big for his head. It's
like, can we just get him in a proper hat?
That's all the way down. That is the end of the show. Like that
is totally the end of the show. If we're on the hat ring that Ludwig
is on, we are out of content for a Thursday. Who's gonna be the first golfer to wear one of those
giant oversized hats the NFL guys like to wear? Tom Kim. Hey, Sally, did you give a comment on
Big Tone's outfit today? Yeah. He had like 16 different shades of blue on he came
but I told him I was like shades of blue I was like we can't wear Nike anymore
you know come by clean up my closet take all the all the Nike stuff I have in
there and that's what how he got dressed this morning so it were Nike anymore
because you're not woke that's gonna do it for Thursday live show be back Friday
Saturday and Sunday like I said TC and I will be out there with the wives tomorrow
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Thumbs up, that really helps.
I'm also receiving word that this Sawgrass commercial
may be working too well.
The Jags have signed Eric Armstead for my beloved Niners.
He's coming to, you know.
Go ahead and give us that Cody.
Thank you CC, thank you, good night.
We will see you back here tomorrow, thank you.