No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 804: Thursday Players Live Show

Episode Date: March 15, 2024

The first round of the Players is in the books, Rory, Xander, and Wyndham all shoot 65 to race out to the lead, Vik and Jordan confront Rory about a couple of drops, TPC Sawgrass plays benign, and eve...rything else from our day on site at the Players. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Be the right club. Be the right club today. Yes! That's better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most! Expect anything different Ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the no laying up live show presented as always by our friends at high noon Thursday players
Starting point is 00:00:39 recap Solly here TC here hello TC Hello Solly Thank you hitting the dab for those that are listening in the car tomorrow morning Big Randy here, hello TC. Hello Sali. Thank you, hitting the dab for those that are listening in the car tomorrow morning. Big Randy's here, hello Mr. Big. I still, I've seen you guys dabbing ironically for months now. I don't know where it started. I brought it back.
Starting point is 00:00:57 I'll be able to take credit for that. I brought the dab back, kind of ironically. Are we matching tonight by the way TC? We might have the same hoodie on. Are you wearing the Tempo series? I am, yeah, and this is my fault. I just took it out. I got my fishing outfit on. Ironically, are we matching tonight by the way TC it we might have the same hoodie on it's over in the tempo series I am yeah, and this is my fault. I just thought I got my fishing outfit on DJ Pies here as well. Hello. Mr. Pied. Hello guys jealous of what looked like a bluebird day down in Jacksonville there It was a good one. It was a good one
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Starting point is 00:01:57 That's of course foot joy the official shoe glove and rainwear partner of no laying up feel the joy at foot joy Dot-com a lot of joy at footjoy.com. A lot of joyous moments out there today. That's gonna be an easy segment today. But TC, I'll throw to you first. Where were you feeling the flow today? Feeling the flow or feeling the joy? Well, the moment of joy section is later.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Oh, that's later. Yeah, give me what you're vibing on there today. You know, I'm gonna say- Doing the pole dance. Energy, harness, good good block pad, right? There was a lot of blocking the bat around and around. Uh, you know what guys, I'm feeling the joy on, I was out there with Max this evening. It's gorgeous here. I'm just feeling the joy on the weather. It's like 78 degrees and not a cloud in the sky and just so delightful.
Starting point is 00:02:46 The greens are a little too soft. They're fast. And guys went out and shot numbers. But the golf courses, it's not going to give it away. You still got to earn it. And just a delightful day watching golf out there. No crazy, you know, nothing crazy went on. We'll talk about some drop stuff. And there's some pace of play
Starting point is 00:03:07 stuff going on here. But overall, I just I'm feeling positive and joyous. And I got a shout out my guy, JT Poston as well. He's in at three under I think right now I think he's the best pound for pound golfer in the world. Splits have the best golf in the world. It was, TC, it felt like a big event out there. And I had to come home for some childcare duties in the afternoon, watch it on television. On television felt like a lot bigger event,
Starting point is 00:03:34 just graphics, music, less commercials, just everything felt different about all of this. And it's been a tough couple of years and tough start to the year, if I may say. It was really good to be out there in person and to feel like some very real buzz and energy around it. Honestly, if I can say, Scotty's kind of little pump up speech that he gave in his presser earlier this week kind of like flipped me a little bit too. It was like, yeah, why am I mad at the actual PGA Tour guys here?
Starting point is 00:04:00 They're doing the best they can in all of this amidst some bad leadership and everyone else jump and ship and I don't know I'm viewing it all through a different lens now and it helps also to have the leaderboard that we have including Rory Zander and Wyndham Clark at the very top of the leaderboard but guys with the watch on TV what were your impressions well I can I can report from Denver where it started snowing last night we're probably we're nearing a foot of snow here. So, Randy, are you going to get out tomorrow? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I TC. We simply do not know. Over 800 flights canceled today at Denver International Airport. But I say all that because there's day for being honest. If you're not going to be out there enjoying the 78 degree weather, what better day to be parked on the couch watching golf? You know, a very guilt free day spent in front of the television. It was a, it's all like you said, it, you know, certainly the, the leaderboard will, we'll talk about that. That helps. Um, but NBC predictably, you know, they step up their game for the
Starting point is 00:05:00 players and yeah, just, it, it felt like a good big golf tournament to watch and I feel like you know you got to take them where you can get them. Roy McIlroy made 10 birdies. I feel like anytime you know anytime that happens it's it's tough to have too bad of a day at the office. They weren't in a row. They weren't in a row. No they weren't in a row. TC maybe you give him some tips on how to stack more of them in a row. But, uh, you know, we spent a lot of time on the Monday preview podcast or the podcast that came out on Tuesday talking about what this week,
Starting point is 00:05:34 what this week means for Rory. And you know, he just had a lot of, a lot of kind of flop in the first few tournaments of the year. And you know, we were kind of saying, Hey, we're getting into the time of the season now where it's it's kind of time to stop f-ing around a little bit and start to stack some good rounds of golf and he seemed to respond to that same thought he had a good quote I don't know if you guys saw anything he said after the round but he talked about you know obviously he shot 76 in the final round at Bay Hill and I think that was kind of a, he called it a wake up call, like big wake up call
Starting point is 00:06:06 for, you know, if I would've shot 70, he's been playing all these tournaments. So he's, he by his admission is like not practicing in the same way that he has been. And so he said, you know, I went and shot 76 and if I had shot 70, I probably would have just come in, taken Monday off, you know, kind of kept, kept cruising, kept trying to, you know, just, just just find it that way and instead I shot 76 It was like man I got a lot of like technical problems in my golf game right now that I need to go fix and I think he just hit balls for like five hours on Monday and
Starting point is 00:06:35 really went and figured it out and seemed to get some good feels and just Stacked up a shitload of birdies and it's you know, I hope that that means good things going forward. I'm laughing. I'm laughing because I'm just thinking, you know, it sounds like Rory was a little overdue on the the rent payments for success. Got a little behind. It's crazy. Get 15 that 30 you know, he can come in a little later. Solly and I were looking at the stats. He's shot 65.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I think he's like 120th in the field in strokes gained off the tee and he's first in putting. So. Yeah, I mean hitting two balls in the water will do that for you. Yeah, so we're a little concerned about some of the sustainability models. You know what TC, I don't know if I am.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Second in strokes gain approach and two bad swings with driver that have really big punishment in that strokes game category like I followed him for 13 holes today and it was prolific aside from the two balls two left balls off the tee which ironically he was saying you know, I've had this great field with driver and it's irons that I'm flipping left because of this feel and It was two drives that went left that cost him at least three shots probably Today the left miss is in play, but he hit the ball really, really well.
Starting point is 00:07:48 The putts were just, they didn't feel fluky at all. It just was like he was hitting him right to that mid range and he was pouring them in the center, man. It looked really, really, really tidy, confident and tidy. He looks swole. He looks enormous. Like he's, he was out driving speed by wide wide margins. It was I'm over using this one lately, but it was like The Derek Henry mark Ingram meme on repeat just with how far far past he was hitting him
Starting point is 00:08:14 You can see it on shot tracer 35 yards 40 yards But when you see it in person as you're seeing out right here on the screen like he had speed that 210 into 16 They both had driver and Rory had 176. Like that's just a- Rory almost hit into the crosswalk. It was- People were walking by the crosswalk and he almost hit into the crosswalk.
Starting point is 00:08:31 It was- There's people in danger. The Rory that we've been wanting to see for a long, long, long time, you know, a long, long time, whatever. For a few months, we have not seen this out of Rory and we saw it today. But not without a
Starting point is 00:08:45 bit of controversy, a little bit of a little bit of interesting, probably the most interesting stretch of the day I would think there was an eight-ish minute clip published on the PGA Tour social handles highlighting the second drop incident of the day which happened on his on the seventh hole which was his sixteenth hole after an incident on the 18th hole which one do you want to start with i know it'd make more sense to start with the first one but i think the the more recent one was the one that more people may have seen which one do we start with you think let's let's start with the first one because i feel like like i think chronologically first of all
Starting point is 00:09:17 we're at sawgrass how do we not have something going on on 14 16 18, 18. I think we'll get to that. We'll eventually end up at that. I think it first, we got a question from J Neil 11. Will you apologize for the tweet? I threatened to do it. I called my shots and I was going to do it after Roy birdied 17. I of course had to hit him with the Rory coming.
Starting point is 00:09:39 He proceeded to hit the very next shot directly into the water on 18, like directly into the water. I mean, it was. I can't tell you, man. I was trying to say on Slack today, like Randy, you probably saw it too, but just the biggest grandest shot,
Starting point is 00:09:53 like the big crane shot of 18, Rory had just birdied 17. He's leading the golf tournament. I literally, these two thoughts back to back in my head as I was watching, I was like, man, Sawgrass fucking rules. Like this is so cool. Also Rory's definitely hitting this this in the water. There's nowhere else that this ball is going. And just a massive hook. I want to give a shout out real quick to, I think it was Ryan Burr and Matt Every on the call. Just really electric stuff throughout that whole stretch. Every's
Starting point is 00:10:19 awesome. That's not going to come to any, as a surprise, anybody listening. But Ryan Burr just deadpan hit him with like a, you know, Matt, you've you've hit it in the water hundreds and hundreds of times on this whole. What's about to happen here? Talk us through this process. Just just good stuff. I was having a good morning. So we're going to talk a lot of, you know, where did it cross Twitter? Ball flight laws. Where were you? You know lot of, you know, where did it cross Twitter, ball flight laws, where were you, you know, what do you know here situation there's a lot of fine we a lot of
Starting point is 00:10:52 uncomfortable uncomfortable stuff that Tommy Lee Jones in the future that we don't care. A lot of just uncomfortable stuff that's like Rory said afterwards seems to only happen at TPC Sawgrass and I mean he hit this ball left on 18 and man I got it I gotta say my gut instinct was almost immediately like that covered maybe the tee box right in front of you and and did not cover in any land up there and They kind of wait on the tee for a while So he pulls it and it draws left they wait on the tee for a while so he
Starting point is 00:11:25 pulls it and it draws left they wait on the tee for a while they're talking it through I couldn't hear anything that was going on and I'm just sitting there like dude don't do this don't don't do this don't do this they start walking up keep going farther and I don't know what they're doing and some people in the media center were talking about this afterwards they're like apparently they were using radar to figure out where it crossed and I was like no no no no no Radar that I've never seen him do that before how did they did they get the track man?
Starting point is 00:11:52 How did they do that and I had to say TC no no no radar Wayne Riley from Sky Sports Comes up and says oh, yeah, it crossed way up here and he he was not on the tee, like he was up in the fairway. So, Hovland and Spieth are saying like, you know, they're not, you know, they're not buying what Rory's kind of selling here and I'm in their camp on this first one. I don't need to explain that I'm a massive Rory fan. This is an uncomfortable spot in terms of like, all these are dudes that I like in this whole situation. So it actually makes it a little bit easier if it was like Reed that had done it into the water and you know Spieth would have held him accountable it would have been you know easier to punch down but anyways he
Starting point is 00:12:34 ends up taking this drop on 18 that I thought was too far down there I definitely did but like I'm also now questioning like do we how could anyone know exactly where this stuff crosses and the look like ball flight laws and how far the ball actually is when it's crossing land how it comes down to players to determine all this is is kind of where I walk away from like dude there's 25 million dollars on the line here there should be a better way of figuring this out all that to say when this stuff happens almost always you default default to the most conservative approach.
Starting point is 00:13:06 And especially if your playing partners are gonna say, I don't really think it crossed up there, you gotta have some damn strong evidence that it did. And so that's kind of the basis of this. He hits this like a fairway wood onto the green, two putts and makes bogey and gets out of there. So the drop really helped him on 18. Simply don't know where it crossed.
Starting point is 00:13:26 And so we get to, you know, he flips over to the other side, he's tearing it up, he birdies six and flips over to seven. No, it hits like one of those shots of the day after he takes the drop on 18 from like 300 yards, knocks it on the green. Just like, we got a double click, just linger on how good that shot was for a sec. That was unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Makes a bunch of birdies in the front and flips over to seven and looks like he's like kind of trying to hit like a knockdown cut driver that just starts left and doesn't really come all the way back and there's water all down this left and it's another awkward Pete Die hole that, you know, creates these awkward situations and it's into the wind and I'm standing right behind the tee, like I'm watching this and there's no camera angle from back there and like it's into the wind and I'm standing right behind the tee,
Starting point is 00:14:05 like I'm watching this and there's no camera angle from back there and like it's in the air and like I'm again, I'm always rooting for Rory. I'm rooting for this thing like cover, like go, oh, that's gotta go, go, go. And it hits the bank and goes right in and my immediate like from what I saw, I'm 99% sure that it did not cover the red line
Starting point is 00:14:23 on the bounce. Like it just, in my head I was like, ah shit, that bounce below the line. And Spieth's caddy felt the same way, Michael Greller, Victor Hovland felt the same way, Victor Hovland's caddy felt the same way. Spieth seemed to feel the same way, yet he also said I didn't, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:40 I was looking 15 yards ahead when it happened, all that. And Rory, as soon as it happens, Rory says, like, that covered, right? And Harry says, yes. And no one really corrects or says anything there. And then they get off the team, they start walking, and they just kinda start jawing back and forth about what happened here.
Starting point is 00:14:58 And it was the second time of the day that Rory put, I think Rory put his playing partners in a really tough spot of like, it takes a lot for these guys, we've seen this a lot, takes a lot for them to speak up on one of these things. And for it to happen twice, I think there was some genuine frustration, not out of spite towards Rory,
Starting point is 00:15:14 like both Hovland and Spieth were not in contention with Rory, like pretty much from the jump today. And it just becomes like a really tough spot to have to step up and be like, I don't really think it covered. And man, I, I'm sitting here questioning, like if I, if my own eyes are deceiving me on all this, because I watched, I watched it bounce below that line and bounce back in and Rory and Harry, I don't think they're lying. I think they are, I think they truly believe it bounced above the line, but it also comes down to how we don't have a
Starting point is 00:15:41 camera there, how there's no technology, how there's not a spotter there. How do we not have a referee stand on some of these awkward holes to't have a camera there how there's no technology how there's not a spotter there How do we not have a referee? Stand on some of these awkward holes to like help dictate this if there's you know We're if Roy got two favorable drops today Which from my naked eye watching it it looked like he did and he goes on to win this tournament like that Has an added impact on things right and it's just it leaves me to really it's this is not the first time to happen to TBC Sawgrass and just felt very uncomfortable all around. And I was really surprised that Rory was as aggressive
Starting point is 00:16:07 about it as he was. Yeah, above the line, under arrest. In my opinion. No, I don't know. It's, yeah, it leaves a sour taste in my mouth too. And if your player, like if your playing partners aren't great with it, then, you know I don't know like it's it's uh, It's tricky. I just yeah, I just don't understand like like Tiger on 14
Starting point is 00:16:31 Like how do we not have a better system for this or how is there not a spotter on the holes where it's it's not? Yeah, that's not first time this has happened, right? This is yeah Yeah, like we watched that with Tiger and Casey Wittenberg in 2013. Soly, would you call it cavalier? I think I kind of have to. I mean, I don't think it was with malintent. It just was like, dude, if you can't, if you're not picking up on kind of the vibe of the rest of the guy,
Starting point is 00:17:01 it's a very emotional thing when you like hit a ball in the water. Like there's a lot flowing through your brain. And like when it happens to me, I feel like I almost default to like, you guys were watching those with clear eyes and I'm like, begging for this ball to cross. I don't know if I saw it all the way. I just feel like you default to the group in that situation. And again, like I said, it's a big hurdle for these guys to speak up in that bold of a manner to slow down play for several minutes to like say this. And it's like a certain point, like you got to kind of place a little bit of trust in
Starting point is 00:17:29 into what they feel on that. I was it was really demonstrative to yeah, he was gesturing all over the place props to the tour for for posting it. Yeah. And he just went live from laying out three or four years ago would never have even dreamt of posting that. I'm gonna step on my future moment of joy, TC, because this is the spot for it.
Starting point is 00:17:52 That was it for me, was just sitting and watching that full eight minute clip. I mean, you guys know how I feel about this issue largely, I feel like, which is, listen, I wasn't there either. I, like, where it always gets to me is like Either call somebody out or don't right? Like I don't know. I can't fucking see what he's doing. I Anything? Yeah, I'm like, I don't know but this whole thing with like It's just such a bad situation and solid to your points like nobody's
Starting point is 00:18:21 Nobody's doing anything wrong Necessarily like I think everybody's doing what they're supposed to be doing, but it just puts Spieth in a weird spot where he's like, I don't know, man. Like they're all saying it didn't, but like it depends what you say, but like, but you're saying this and I don't know. But again, like that now radar, that's what radar said. And it's, and like Spieth is in a weird spot where he can't just come out and say like,
Starting point is 00:18:45 well, I don't, you know, he doesn't know definitively that it didn't cross. And it's just, I don't know. It's just a bad spot, which is where I circle back to my moment of joy was just sitting and watching them all trying to figure it out was pure joy. Truly. It's like when my homes was pissed off about that spot this year. Yeah. You remember that? And it's like, all right, the NFL's a, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:07 a hundred, you know, or $500 billion entity and they can't figure out like how to put RFID in the ball or figure out spatial, you know, sensor stuff. That's where it comes back to like, depending on how tight you want to like zoom into this issue to like try to get an answer. It's like, well, having pay and volunteers out there is probably not like a great way to legislate this $25 million event, right? We're like that poor guy like again, I would be doing the same thing if I was him. But like he's standing
Starting point is 00:19:38 there like just in the middle of these three athletes try to like figure it out. He's just kind of like, Yeah, no, I'll support I'm with you guys. Whatever you guys, whatever you guys think, that's what I think happened. And it's, it's just the worst, I don't know, it's just the worst possible way to like do it. But I don't necessarily know what the other ways around it would be. So it's, it's just kind of a, I think you just got to look at it as like more of a funny situation than anything, because I, you know, certainly can't tell you where it crossed or who's right or who's wrong or whatever. Protect the field, baby.
Starting point is 00:20:09 I'll say it. Which they're trying, but I don't know what they can do differently. If I'm wrong about what I saw on those two, I have been wrong about hundreds of these over the years. How I would normally practice, like TC, if you try to take those drops, if we're in a match together,
Starting point is 00:20:25 you'd be hearing about a Cavalier drop for the next six to seven years, I think. Like it would be- So that says it all then, Sahli. Like to me, that says it all. Well, when we're playing a match, like we would almost always default to like, yeah. We're not playing for 25 million dollars.
Starting point is 00:20:38 I know. That's where like, I don't know, that's where again, I don't need to explain that I'm a massive Roy fan. Like if Patrick Reed took that drop, I would be standing up right now just shouting from the rooftop. I'm trying to give this to Patrick Reed lens of like, you know, this is obviously one of my favorite players. How do I feel like to truly how I feel about it?
Starting point is 00:20:57 And it was just like, I don't know. But then I'm like questioning my own sanity. Like, did I did I see the ball bounce below the red line? Like when I saw it, I, I, you know, now I've thought about it for three hours afterwards. I'm like, dude, I mean, I assume I did. Do I need my eyes checked? Like, I was 275 yards away. Like, did I see what I think I saw? It just, it just then ultimately, again, like I said, like, how do you end up? How do
Starting point is 00:21:18 these guys have to decide? And then Roy says we should split the difference on- I'm glad you said that. And- I'm like, well, that's not it either. That makes everybody wrong. Vic said it's back by the turtles. And so, yeah. What a stupid story.
Starting point is 00:21:33 And there's no rules official for any of this? There's no one there. Someone came over and it all just comes back to like, Roy, it's whatever you think, man. Which again is like Yeah, I don't know how you do it differently necessarily But unless you just make that whole left side OB or something, but it's it's just a lot. It's just wild I don't know. I mean could they not
Starting point is 00:21:58 Put a camera somewhere either up closer to the green looking back like down the hazard line or you know near the t-box looking down the hazard line. With how much that bank just cuts out it's like impossible to see where the hazard line is unless you have a camera like pointing at it yeah like pointing at it like you'd have to almost have a camera i don't even know if that is still like an island like in the middle of the of six and seven there, right? Where you'd almost have to have like a camera facing back that way just in case something like this happens, which again, like sounds silly as you're saying it,
Starting point is 00:22:33 but I guess in a $25 million event, you kind of do need to have something like that. If I was trying to really Zapruder it, and I was trying to break it down, it took a pretty big bounce on TV. And that's where it's like, trust me, have hit it up. Thank you. I have, much like Matt Everett,
Starting point is 00:22:50 I have hit it in the water there hundreds of times back when I worked for the PJ Tour. And that whole bank is so steep and the red line does appear to be at the bottom of that bank to where like, if it was going to take a bounce that big, I know I only took one year of engineering school, but if it did take a bounce that big,
Starting point is 00:23:07 it seemed like it would have had to hit on the top rather than if it hit below the line, it just seemed like it would have bounced straight left. Cody, you feeling me? I thank you for saying that, DJ. I agree with you 100,000%. And that's where I was like, Sully, you gotta stick with your guns here.
Starting point is 00:23:21 It's impossible for that ball to land below the red line and get that bounce that it got. It's not impossible because that is like what it did. Like that is what I saw it do. Like again, I was hoping that it would cross. So you're saying it hit below the red line. In my mind, from what I saw, that ball hit below the red line.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Like, and again, I didn't like commit it to memory. I can't like replay it. It was just like, I want it to carry. Like cover, cover, cover hits. And I was like, fuck, that did not cover. And I don't replay it, it was just like, I want it to carry, cover, cover, cover hits, and I was like, fuck, that did not cover. And I don't know, I saw the same angle later, I saw the same image and I was like, huh, maybe I am fucking crazy, but everyone,
Starting point is 00:23:56 there was standing with three or four other media members, we all talked about it like five minutes afterwards, because again, what happened, it was so obvious to me, but five minutes later, I'm like, that did not cross, right? And they're like, no, that did not cross cross that did not and but like yeah I watched the film and I'm kind of like well shit did I have the line totally wrong am I looking at it I don't know that's where it's just like all right I've been conspiracy theory is Rory trying to put some some kindling on the fire like some some, some, uh, I need a chip on my shoulder.
Starting point is 00:24:26 I'm wearing all black today. I'm going to be a villain. I'm gearing up for Augusta. You think he was just trying to alpha them with, with the drop? Just, I'm just saying, you know, maybe, maybe he's like, you know what? Nobody believes me. Right. I'm going to go win Augusta.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Maybe, maybe, maybe. Yeah. Maybe I didn't to go win Augusta. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah, maybe. I didn't have that was my first. Sorry, were you close to anybody? Anybody want to hear what Rory has to say? Like, is anybody interested in that? Sure. Seen on the seventh, was that necessary in your eyes?
Starting point is 00:24:59 It was all a bit needless. Um, I think Jordan was just trying to make sure that I was doing the right thing. I mean I was pretty sure that my ball had crossed where I was sort of dropping it and and it's so hard right because it's there was no TV evidence I was adamant but you know I think again Henke was just trying to make sure that I was going to do the right thing. If anything, I was being conservative with it. I think at the end of the day, we're all trying to protect ourselves, protect the field as well. I wouldn't say it was needless. I think he was just trying to make sure that what happened was the right thing.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I think what we need is, is when there's a punt or a kick that goes out of bounds and the ref runs up to the spot, like this, like that's what we need. And we need like a zebra. What's the guy's name on live DJ on the Tonyeletubby? Tony's are fully Tony's are fully a bunch of Tony's are bullies out there. And Zebra, maybe that's the kind of shit that we can be using this SSG money for. That's it. Three billion dollars sitting in the bank account. Get a couple of zebras out there. It doesn't make you
Starting point is 00:26:18 wonder how they're not positioning volunteers a little bit more strategically on some of these holes. Right? I think it's got to be a rules official though. Like it's a players like there's several holes where this can happen like a lot at TPC right? I mean having a rules official on 18 T for the 72nd hole especially like set feels like it could be really important come Sunday if this if this happens to somebody that has a one-shot lead Or a two-shot lead and is taking a Cavalier drop, right? Like, it just feels like, again, I feel bad for all the players involved here because I think Rory truly believes this.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Like, you just don't do that unless, you just don't do that. You don't do that unless you have some serious conviction that it did. And like at the same time, the other guys playing there, playing with them did not see it that way. And it's just really, really fricking hard to do from 275 to 300 yards away.
Starting point is 00:27:05 You know which player I feel bad for, Solly? Wyndham Clark, who continues to show up and now is getting overshadowed again by Dropgate. The only guy that keeps showing up when the lights are the brightest. He comes in, shoots another 65 today, ties the lead and you know, just got to give him his due. I believe he him his due. I believe he got his due on the Wednesday show when someone picked him to win this week. So, and might've even been able to
Starting point is 00:27:31 a little personal dabble going into this. I sprinkle it. I did a little, just a little, just sprinkled a little bit on there. I mean, I think it was 55 to one. Like it just did not make sense. It's crazy. He's played.
Starting point is 00:27:42 It don't make sense, Big. Have you seen how high Bitcoin is? Of course, I'm like, of course, I guys splash and splash and outright winners. Thank you, Rainier. That's the first time you've you've acknowledged how high Bitcoin is. That means a lot to me. Yeah, guys, I'll say somebody else I feel bad for.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Tommy, who hit it, who was absolutely flashing. It was five under at the the time goes to seven. It's in the water there and he makes triple, but he dropped it almost all the way back at the tee. Makes you think, makes you think. Maybe he's not alpha. Yeah. He respects the field.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Um, yeah, I know TC wants to move on from Wyndham Clark, but I do think we should pause on that for just this for just a second. He respects the game, he respects the field. I know TC wants to move on from Wyndham Clark, but I do think we should pause on that for just a second. You could set that out then, because the dude is, like as we've mentioned multiple times over the last several weeks, continues to flash in all facets of the game. You know, not a course that in theory
Starting point is 00:28:41 would jump off the page to be a perfect fit for him. It kind of throttles driver a little bit But eighth and approach today and third in putting that's gonna play anywhere hit eight fairways He had 175 into the 16th hole like he is he's a birdie force right now, and I'm obviously really liking where he's sitting. I have no issue with with Wyndham personally it's it's just like the way he plays the game. And I feel like he just aims 30 yards left and hits driver as hard as he possibly can with a 30 yard, you know, spinny cut on it.
Starting point is 00:29:13 And it goes 340. Like everything that I don't like about the modern game rolled into one player. I can't discount any of that. And what you feel watching him, I feel like I largely feel the same, but this would be at least like we talk about venues. It's pretty dramatically different venues. Yeah. If he was to go on and win here, it's like Quail Hollow, LACC, Pebble, Sawgrass is like,
Starting point is 00:29:35 well, that's kind of a golfer. And almost Bay Hill. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we got a lot of time between then and now. Yeah, well we got a lot of time between then and now. And you know, speaking of guys, everybody loves to watch Xander as well. Just like, dude has been, you know, you might not like it, but you must admit, guy is playing some absolute golf right now. Clean card too.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Yeah, dude, he's just, you know, I feel like some of the Chris Como stuff has been a little under the radar just cause he doesn't, you know, he doesn't, you know, he doesn't hashtag win very much, but it seems like he's made some sizable changes in his golf swing and it seems to be quite sustainable because he's playing really freaking good golf right now.
Starting point is 00:30:18 We have a lot of leaderboard stuff to get to, but before we do that, I want to, let's pause and we'll do our, let's bring some more joy back to the show. I know coming off Xander and Wyndham TC it's a it's a tough thing for you to this is for you the joy is for you brought to you by our friends at Footjoy as a reminder these are moments that occurred somewhere in the golf world including our own experiences that had us feeling the joy we're gonna go around the horn here's some feel the joy
Starting point is 00:30:42 moments from the team Randy I'm gonna start it with you. What was your moment? Well, I think we should end with me, Solly. So why don't we go clockwise around our screen? Okay, I'll go first then. My moment of joy today, this was highly distributed on the social channels, but our guy Adam Hadwin just really like almost like it was a drill like a throwing the club drill absolutely hooked his club into the water
Starting point is 00:31:12 on the 18th hole the iconic 18th hole at TPC Sawgrass knowing that was going to make the rounds on social. Where did the club cross? Where did it cross Twitter? He took an egregious drop on the next one, of course, but no it was a fantastic huck and I just wanted to celebrate that Do you see golf clubs sink right? That's a stupid question, but they sink Okay, or metal get water in the shaft. Well, I just didn't know how dense or buoyant, you know Yeah, mine, you know a lot of different ways we could go with this.
Starting point is 00:31:47 I walked out today and immediately saw Ludwig Eagle number two, but my moment of joy was coming back in from watching Max and others on the back nine this evening, gorgeous weather and everything. And, you know, I come back in and two individuals are playing, are hucking something else. They're hucking a pigskin back in the flash area near the media center just in a big patch of grass. Caleb Williams? It was a well, that was my first thought. So I like this guy,
Starting point is 00:32:22 just an absolute rocket arm. And I'm thinking, oh my gosh, this is Caleb Williams. Solly walked around with Caleb Williams all day was giving him all sorts of Chicago tips. Wrigleyville, Lincoln Park, all sorts of local joints up there. But no, it was, it was just throwing the pigskin with his, with his son. And I said, Chesson, what'd you shoot today? He said, not good, but it doesn't matter. Look at this, man. Look at us. What kind of quarterback you think Chesson would be? Brock Osweiler. That's what I call Chesson would be like, uh, I'm trying to think who was like a super skinny, like kind of, you know, kind kind of loopy, long motion, not the quickest release, but that just made me happy.
Starting point is 00:33:11 He was out there, his son's probably- Daniel Rodabaugh TC from our Miami, Ohio days. Yeah, I could see some of that. Yeah. Indoor legend now. But yeah, I don't know. That just made me happy. I love, like that's my favorite thing to do with my son is throw the football.
Starting point is 00:33:28 I think Chesson shot two or three over today. For him to just be hanging out throwing the football, having a beer is sweet. I love it. I kind of mentioned mine with watching the eight minute full uncut gems just word worded it across conversation. But I'll also throw out micro moment of joy. The feeling I had watching Scottie finish off his round today was like, you know what? I got a guy that I'm rooting for to dominate right now.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And that was, I feel like we haven't had that in a while and watching him make bogey at the first and then just kind of turn that into like the most boring, you know, 67 you've ever seen in your life was like, all right, that's cool. We haven't had one of those guys for quite a while and it made me very happy that Scotty's doing it. Can we get you to root for Scotty TC?
Starting point is 00:34:22 Can we get you on board? I root for Scotty. You can get me to root, well, yeah, yeah, I mean, you know. I'm close, solid. I to root for Scotty TC? Can we get you on board? I root for Scotty. You can get me to root. Well, yeah. I mean, it's, you know. I'll root for history, right? If he's, that's kind of where it's at, but it's got to, we got to, it's got to be majors and that sort of thing. We got to be cognizant and very sure that we're witnessing history. Also, a lot of people in the comments saying, I witnessed Mike Glennon out there. Yeah, Mike Glennon's a good one. Passing the ball with his son. That's good.
Starting point is 00:34:48 And somebody else said, golf the only sport we can tell where a ball crossed from 280, but we can confuse Chess and Hadley with Caleb Williams for 40 yards. Chip, that was a joke, my man. So. Big guy, bring us home.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Oh, I'll segue us. Cause I told Cody, I'm like, man, you know what my moment of joy was? Was just looking at the leaderboard and seeing a lot of good, interesting names in the mix. We've talked about the guys at Seven Under, Rory, and Xander, and Wyndham. But you go deeper into the leaderboard and finally, we're starting to like Matt Fitzpatrick.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Welcome back buddy. Former US Open champion shoots six under. Jason Day, Ludwig, loves seeing Ludwig. Very curious what he's gonna do the next three days. Scheffler feels like, you know, we're near the floor of his abilities, but he's five under. You get deeper there. You got Max Holma at four under.
Starting point is 00:35:44 You got Hideki at three under, we know he can get hot around here. So it's finally, it felt like a leaderboard commensurate with a big event. And again, that's a nice place to be and brought me a little bit moment of joy this evening. The one name that I wanna add there too is Michael Kim's in the chat
Starting point is 00:36:05 right now he's also there at 400 big I know you just blew past his name you don't care about him at all. I didn't think he'd be in the chat. I appreciate him. Almost had a hole-in-one on 17 but keep it up buddy. Apparently Johnson Wagner's also out hucking balls off the bank on 7 trying to identify a pattern and how they're bouncing which I may have to check out that segment a bit later. This is what you people are asking for, what you're doing with where did it cross Twitter. Just let the professionals do their job and move on.
Starting point is 00:36:38 I felt like Scottie's round today, it's wild how 67 feels like even par for him now. That truly was just like, oh. Well, hold hold on you're just gonna totally skip over Nick Taylor I was he brought up Scotty he brought up Scotty you can bring you we can talk about Nick tell what do you have a clean card to you hate can card committee that's a tough look Sally take it away you can you can have it TC no actually I don't have that I pull that back I pull actually, I forgot that. I pull that back. I pull that back. I pull that back. Solid round from Ludwig.
Starting point is 00:37:08 He's five under par. You got Foxy hole in one on 17 today. Very cool. Core setup. Let's talk a little bit about that. It's rained a lot here, but I've, you know, all week have been saying. It hasn't rained a lot. It's been a little bit wet lately.
Starting point is 00:37:24 It's spring. It rained on Saturday. It hasn't rained a lot. It's been a little bit wet lately. It's spring, it rained on Saturday. It hasn't rained since then. The fucking greens are like soup. To clarify, it's been a very wet winter and it dumped rain on Saturday night. And we talked about that on Monday and it was like, okay, it's very soft now. I think they'll dry out.
Starting point is 00:37:37 I think they'll dry out. I think they'll dry out. And they have not dried out. And apparently- They haven't turned the sub-airs on. Apparently it's called precision air. And I don't know if they've been in use. Can you confirm that they have not turned them on TC?
Starting point is 00:37:50 Many people are saying sources are saying I cannot confirm. I haven't confirmed with the tour. You gotta remember this is our first players championship post-pastor as well. So there's a new sheriff in town, right? And all that stuff. So we don't know how they're doing it there. But between the greens, it was actually kind of interesting on
Starting point is 00:38:09 17 today, because there's, there's so soft that guys are worried about ripping the ball all the way off. But a lot of guys getting saved by the strips of rough when there's bumper around bumpers in the lanes. Yeah, it takes a little bit of the edge off of it, though. I feel like we should reheat just super quick in case people haven't heard it, the wash camo idea where they should shave like dashes into the green where like, almost like gates.
Starting point is 00:38:37 You know, you have three feet of heavy rough that will stop a ball and then you have three feet of clean mode directly into the water. And I just, I was thinking about that today. I think, you know, for instance, I forget who that was. Uh, it looks like Kevin, you, uh, soldier soldier boy, that that could have, you know, it's a 50 50 ball. Maybe it gets caught up in the rough and maybe it spins right, you know, right through one of the, the wickets, but I'm sorry. Continue.
Starting point is 00:39:03 The only, so I think that there's some bad uses, usage of these rough strips, obviously. I think the one left of 18 is like, you could speath blew away right today, tried to punch out and got totally saved by the rough from going in there. Adam Scott apparently had an incident this morning, blowing one over the green on 12, got saved,
Starting point is 00:39:20 gets up and down easily for par, that's a problem. 17, I think I'm okay with that to a certain extent because if it's not, otherwise you're just gonna end up with the most boring shots at that hole. Like everyone's gonna bail long up to that top tier and not take on trying to stick one into the front if the penalty is that severe.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Like, cause so many balls would have rolled in the water today and it would have led to almost no shots at that one. I think that whole green should be blown up. It'd be sick. And redone. I just don't think it's a very good green itself. And so in combination, I think there's a way to do it without that rough,
Starting point is 00:39:57 but the way the current green is constructed, I think that could have been not so good today. Can you imagine how much money we're talking to blow it up? Just with like lost revenue and cost of the construction and everything. I would love to see like an itemized sheet on how much that would cost.
Starting point is 00:40:13 What if they built a second island? Because I had to play the right way. Or if they connected it to the intercoastal, they could bring in like an aircraft carrier and have you hit to that and then. That'd be fun. Or I think the concert going up there. Easy answer is take the tree out, build a temporary green there,
Starting point is 00:40:29 let everybody play that for a while while you redo the other. Be truly an island green. I will say the other thing that bugged me about the rough and just some of the setup today was this is nitpicking, but it seems like the rough right off of the fairways, I was talking to a couple of players after they finished about this, today was just the misses nitpicking, but it seems like the rough right off of the fairways. I was talking to a couple of players after they finished about this, the rough right off of the fairways seems to be some of the thickest stuff out there. So you miss by six inches and you're in. I've actually called for that before. I actually kind of like that. The reverse graded rough,
Starting point is 00:41:01 where if you're going for the fairway, you better hit the fairway. And if you, if you're going for the fairway you better hit the fairway and if you if you're gonna miss you better miss big-time left or right but a key stoop this thing I've ever it's well a key for sawgrass though is they're gonna have the bank about it if they have bad rough on one side they almost certainly have something else on the other side pine straw bunkers moguls there's like something else that's like instead of the Bay Hill thick rough down both sides, like there's always you know there's an angle to the fairway and there's always like a other different place you could hit it that is not thick rough. Like I don't know if
Starting point is 00:41:35 you go into the thick rough left of five it's because you know you're bailing away from the bunker that runs along the right side. Well I think part of it almost yeah is some of the moguls on some of the greens like on you know the right side of five or right side of nine different spots there where it's like yeah it just feels like all right like your ball can start running down you know bounces and bounces and it gets caught in the last three inches of rough and you're gouging it out right I'll say the greens are not firm enough though to like this is a rare case where like I don't mind the long rough because if the greens are going to be soft having short rough would just it would be very easy like the shots around the green would be extremely easy. Forecast looks good I mean we're in for really like nice, you know, low tonight at 62, high
Starting point is 00:42:29 tomorrow. It's gonna be exactly the same tomorrow. 78 degrees high, partly sunny, light south winds. Saturday 79 degrees, possibly up into the mid 80s, west winds. So it's gonna be hot and dry for this time of year. It's gonna be awesome taking the wife out tomorrow. We're gonna you know Non working capacity tomorrow margaritas only tomorrow. So a question we got from W Gordon 28 Any observation from watching spieth in person today seems like now the putter is working the ball striking is all over the place Spieth in person today seems like now the putter is working the ball striking is all over the place Yeah, I'm wondering if Spieth's play contributed to like a You know if it was kind of a cyclical thing of kind of the couple squabbles He had you know
Starting point is 00:43:14 he's a little frustrated to begin with and and it definitely seemed like it was a distraction of some kind and I kind of Feel for him in that regard. It's kind of it It's kind of an incident where it's just gonna get your heart rate up a little bit something You don't really want to deal with while you're trying to grind out around the golf. But I overheard him talking to Greller a little bit about their tee shot when he kind of missed right on seven. And he's like, I wish I could tell you that I was bailing over here, but I'm just that off. I felt like that was going to be a good swing, and I was just that off. He does not inspire a lot of confidence in the way he's talking in the middle of some of these rounds. So no, I was I've been
Starting point is 00:43:49 a little discouraged on the on the Lynx master and from what I witnessed up close again just like watching him I'm just like looking around the landscape of like dude he couldn't like hold a candle to Rory today you know Scotty like you're gonna go beat that guy right now like Wyndham Clark like they're just there's guys that are in a different Tier and category Uh and jordan it's gonna take a lot for him to lead to get back up into that category and like win like we Expect him to so
Starting point is 00:44:15 You gotta remember this is not a lynx Uh, it's a florida lynx. Yeah, and he's probably you know, this means he's probably gonna win the masters by like six I hope so words right out of my mouth I'm curious from you guys. Give me give me one name who's going forward tomorrow. Who's going backwards tomorrow? I think scottie is gonna keep coming. Wow Do it look at look at big randy out there on on his own on that limb get that in writing I bet Rory goes backwards. Well, don't game the system. Come on, you know the spirit of what I'm asking I think it's gonna get tougher as the day goes along tomorrow
Starting point is 00:44:56 Like I think the guys that were early late are probably a little bit of a disadvantage I'm looking for max to go out early and kind of post something, put it up there, set it, you know, put it on the board, shoot 64, 65 in the morning and then go kick his feet up in the afternoon. Go fiesta time. If I may, I'm gonna, I'm gonna attach onto that bandwagon here TC with with Max, I got dinner with him last night, and I've never seen him so.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Like cocky is not the right word, the truly confident was the right word in terms of like where he was at mentally and like feels like he's on like the 300 level class of, you know, advancing mentally and his approach and everything was the big key for him is just like getting off the bus, getting out and playing well on a Thursday, like he gets, you know, gets going and in contention, like he we've seen him play really, really well. He just sometimes struggles to get off the bus, and when he got off the bus today, that's like, okay, it might be go time for Max this week.
Starting point is 00:45:51 I'm buying. Backwards, listen, I'm just gonna say it. I'm gonna say Hogecoin goes backwards. I mean, it's a bull market, I get it. Everyone's getting you know, happy Fat and happy off all these cryptos that are on the rise, but hoes coin It's a scam. It's a scam. I'm not buying record holder Sally 62 I'm going down the board. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say Mark Hubbard goes forward tomorrow
Starting point is 00:46:25 Guy ball struck the shit out of it today. Third in ball striking almost lasted putting we might have a homeless problem in ball county St. John's. I think that's a fun one to watch. You know, whenever you have somebody with a big big Delta like that, that's a fun, you know, can't wait to see what happens tomorrow. I'll throw another one out there. I think Kadecki makes a move. You know, he boge he bogeyed two today that's a bad bogey. I think his round tomorrow's starting off should be two shots better automatically. I'm looking for Kadeki to make a little move. You know you got to worry about his mindset though Randy that Japanese rocket blew up. That is right. That might be weighing heavily. I'm about to transition us to a positive Amsterdam segment but I'll start it with a negative of let's cool
Starting point is 00:47:09 it on the Ponte Vedra commercials. Like we are full here. There's a lot of traffic down here now. We don't need you telling people about how incredible Jack's Beach and Ponte Vedra are. It really did stunt today. The images were incredible. They got some really good plane shots of showing the proximity of TPPC. I've never seen that on the air from them, like a proximity shot of showing where TPC Sawgrass sits in relation to the ocean, showed some images upon a VDrennen club and the other golf in the area. It was like a lot of people saying a lot of great things about Jack's right now, which I'm joking about a little bit to say like it. Appreciate the shout outs
Starting point is 00:47:42 here because it's not your typical Florida city. This is a great, great place to live and visit. And I'm truly happy for a lot of people that work so hard at this tournament that they get a great week because they've gotten dealt a couple of tough hands in the last several years. Yeah, including COVID.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Just to say the Amsterdam, you know, if you're new to the show, this is where we try to isolate when we usually complain about coverage of golf tournaments. I have nothing negative to say the hamster damn, you know our if you're new to the show This is where we try to isolate when we usually complain about coverage of golf tournaments I have nothing negative to say literally other than the column or cow commercial was on quite a bit But it's limited commercials. It's more announcers more tech more tracers more stuff to show off Mike Torey co always elevates an event it they they just did an excellent job of on a, making it feel like an important event. And the branding of it is just very, very strong.
Starting point is 00:48:28 And probably added to the fact of just, I really enjoyed going to the tournament and always have great memories of this week. But just felt like they did it justice and it all seemed to fit. And it was like, if golf coverage looked like this, we would not complain the way we do. Hear, hear.
Starting point is 00:48:44 From afar, it was a from afar. It was. It was a delightful watch. I was, you know, I were kind of. Kind of saying when the when the fifth major conversation starts to come around, it's like you know both things are true. Like all that matters is the majors and also this week feels like it matters.
Starting point is 00:48:58 So it's like I'm not saying it is a major, but I'm saying it is getting treated like one from a NBC perspective at least. And it's, it's much appreciated. I'll say just the negative, you know, Sally, I think pulling that thread, I, weeks like this, just what they do is drive home, like what a difference there is between the other weeks when NBC is is responsible for coverage and it's just I don't know it's not a great look for the coverage to be that different when it's the
Starting point is 00:49:34 same broadcast part like I'm struggling to think of other examples around sports where it's like oh this week ah the coverage is going to be kind of shitty you know because you're just not going to show you the second quarter of the game. Yeah, they just don't think it's that big of a deal and whatever. But like this week, this will be sweet because they're actually like trying. I it's really weird. Are there any cops to tennis? There's gotta be some similarities now.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Well, this is such a fixed, you know, one ball and one court. It's you can't really change all that much. Yeah, I know. Like there's a big tennis event going on this week the big Indian Wells event which is like honestly one of their biggest non majors and You know tennis channel has it and it's great, but I don't really notice. You know a huge difference Well, I shouldn't say that because they have people on site So I guess yeah, you can draw a little bit of a comparison with tennis. But if any of the big networks or ESPN were to do tennis, it would not look different
Starting point is 00:50:34 week to week. It's more like a tennis channel thing, which I don't want to make the comparison to golf channel per se. Just it feels like it's a reasonable request that elevated signature, whatever you wanna call the events like should be on par with this, right? Like that's like regular, like the cognizant, do I think it needs to have this level of investment?
Starting point is 00:50:55 Like, no, it doesn't really work that way. And it flattens, you know, but if you really want these big events to stand out, it needs to look a lot more like this, brand them different, do something different. Like it just, again, different leaderboard graphics makes it feel different. I know that sounds so petty, but like I really do think it,
Starting point is 00:51:11 you know, adds to the importance of the event. But I think that's it. I would say it's differentiate and then dimensionalize. D&D. I know this is where my internet cut out last time when I was making this point, but this is where like, it's just so hard when you don't Decide that it's two tours right when you're trying to convince
Starting point is 00:51:31 you know the cognizance and the Genesis is and The 3m's and the Wells Fargo's and all these people that like no no this is all the same thing And then behind closed doors like no no no yours is way bigger, don't worry. No, no, no, we still totally care about yours. We're gonna have a bunch of great players there. No, but trust me, the old big players only care about your tournament is where it's like, well, yeah, you just can't do that.
Starting point is 00:51:54 That's where, again, it's not unlike the drop situation. You wanna keep scrolling in. There's just, I don't know, it's a big fucking mess of ripped up wires, man. I think we need to just burn the house down. I will say on the positive thing too, earlier this week, the golf channel guys were getting a little chippy with the tour. They were shitting all over Jay and all the money talk and all
Starting point is 00:52:18 that stuff. And when you've got your broadcast partner slash somewhat state run media getting chippy like that. I like that. I'm for that. Like keep that up guys. Well, it's the best. I mean, it's even as simple as I know it's not necessarily one-to-one, but Randy, Sally, you guys know this.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Like MLB network is not like watching the golf channel, right? There's actual opinions being expressed. There's actual news being broken. And it's just like, I just keep coming back to like, why does golf have to feel different than other sports? It's so frustrating. I would say DJ, the first thing that comes to my mind is
Starting point is 00:53:00 in no other sport is the good guy class act narrative. Do they try to push that as much as they do? I feel like in golf. You know? Which, you know, praise progress. They did post the big, you know, the little where did it cross kerfuffle. So I guess it's, it seems like at least they're aware of it,
Starting point is 00:53:21 which I'm sure they always have been. It's just now they're feeling slightly more empowered to dip their toe into the waters of like, well, what if we posted it? What if we talked about it? What if we had that conversation on the golf channel? And hopefully they'll see that no one's gonna die. It's gonna be okay.
Starting point is 00:53:36 No one's gonna get dropped by their sponsors. So it's, you know, people might even be more interested. Worth noting, they have been doing this for a couple of years now. Like when the Reed incident happened, like as of like 2021, they started doing some of this, right, like they started posting some of the more controversial stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:53 I don't think this is like a live creation of like now they're doing that, yeah. No, I'm more speaking- There was a massive full scale conspiracy against Reed, so you gotta kind of throw that out. That's true, that's actually, I just think I just got, that's gonna be submitted as evidence. And there was all those right pins today too.
Starting point is 00:54:09 The, more speaking to the fact that like what TC was saying about Golf Channel, cause I feel like even in the past, especially players week, I mean, there's kind of like a guy standing, you know, off screen just basically being like, hey, what we gotta talk FedEx Cup points more. Hey, we gotta talk about this.
Starting point is 00:54:26 We gotta give some love to the proud partners. Hey, you mentioned the Masters. Yeah, maybe they're chilling about it, which is good. Two things I wanna add, DG gave a shout out to ESPN. Plus, I thought their crew was awesome. Again, Every is a rock star on that. Ryan Burr with one of the craziest lines today, shouting out Spies 2013 season. I was like
Starting point is 00:54:46 really? Yeah. John Deere. Yeah he's been one of the 10 best years in the history of the sport. I think he probably met 15 but that's you know. The only other thing is that again awesome job you know presenting this and it I agree with you guys all signature events should look like this But in a time when there's like lawsuits being thrown around and everything Within like NBC Comcast is pretty glaringly obvious that the only female voice that you'll see is a third chair from the live From C and that's when Anna steps in here is not on site. She's back in the studio You would think that they would find something. I love our guy Damon, but you know, where's Kira's not on site, she's back in the studio. You would think that they would find something. I love our guy Damon, but you know, where's Kira at?
Starting point is 00:55:28 Why does Kira like have to do all these mule events when you get to signature events season? Like she's nowhere to be found. I don't know. It's just crazy when you look at it, what they could be presenting and when you're trying to grow things again, you know, those voices matter.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Yeah, yeah, that's very hard. If you say that though, then that's what that's that's when they bring Christina Kim in. We can't have that either. Literally the back of my mind is like, I need to get over TZ soon as Cody mentioned is like, I know what's coming. I can see this from a mile away. I'm not that predictable. T.C., we've known each other a long time, brother. In a very teeny, Cody, just to extrapolate that a hair, I think it's interesting, like we were all texting today about Jeff Shackelford always, you know, a must read newsletter all the time, but he had a great line in there about how, you know, kind of the tour likes to take credit for like, oh, the game's growing. Must be us. Oh,
Starting point is 00:56:30 the game shrinking. Not our fault. You know, the pro games booming, you know, and like, I think they like to be front runners in that regard. And it is interesting to see like, oh my God, the game's being taken up by so many young women. This is amazing. This is the fastest growing element of the sport. We've never even acknowledged that they exist, but you know, we're rooting for it. We think that's great. And that's, I think to your point on the telecast, Cody, like there's probably a pretty low hanging dub to be had there. So I'm asking, I'm not, listen, I'm not the woke police out here. That's not what I'm
Starting point is 00:57:01 saying. But I'm saying that there's like, extremely competent people out there that can fucking do this thing. Yeah, you're not those you're not the little strips of rough. You're not woke like those. Ruff is woke. I want I want to jump in earlier because you are dead wrong on 17. I can't believe they let you get away with that to that rough it should be abolished. It's crazy that it's there right there.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Or make it a little bit shorter. What are we asking me? I was these guys are professionals. They're the best in the game. Come on guys. Can we shave it for the weekend? I would, maybe there's a compromise to be had. Like, let's get out there and shave it for the third and fourth rounds
Starting point is 00:57:37 when we have not as many guys playing. It's an entertainment product. Hit the fucking shot and control your spin, guys. Again, I have said this in years years past easily the most cartoonish manufactured hole in the history of humankind Brandy I feel like you should just have like artificial turf that you could either take up or put down depending on the wind Right if it's gonna be windy. Yeah, we'll put the put the strips down keep the balls on the green Oh, it's not gonna be a need dome golf today Yank them up. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Or to Sully's point, we're gonna put some fake grass up on the back part of the green to try to take away that long play. Shrink the green a little bit. We don't need the whole back portion of pins up front. You know, just make that, I don't know, make that sand or something back there. The only other crazy green thing was I guess there's was a groundhog issue or something like that on 10 green that they've been working on. It just messed up the back right and left portion
Starting point is 00:58:32 of that green. So you're not gonna get a pin back there at all this week. I might have to go put some groundhogs around 12 green if I can. Just see if they'll blow it up. It's a great risk reward hole. Do you see we learned that every year? I will say Max hit a really good one. He was in the left bunker. He had a bad tee shot.
Starting point is 00:58:50 He was in the left bunker, maybe 80 yards out and had an exceptional shot in there. He should he hit it. He was like 260 out on 11 and he had this three wood and he hits it 20 feet from the pine straw. Oh, like I was like, this is how they're gonna go really good or really bad. Hit it there, he hit some golf shots. I'm a stretch today. Again, not asking everyone to agree with golf course takes,
Starting point is 00:59:15 but like when we're angling at something, it's something like that to say like, this shot is possible, at least out of pine straw. Like if there was thick rough there, Max would have been punching out and like watching punch outs on repeat is not entertaining. Over water, over a bunker, to a green with like a ton of risk reward. You can bail left all you want but it's really hard up and down. Like that was a really earned golf shot. There was a lot of risk in that and you're able
Starting point is 00:59:37 to pull it off. That is the style of golf I like a lot more than than hacking out rough. I'm not telling you what you like but that that is the specific example of the conversation over the last several weeks. God, how good was Scottie's punch on 18? Did you see that? The one that got all the way up to the green. It was the one that, the one that lesser players like to like flip over
Starting point is 00:59:56 and punch into the water. He's like, no, I'll just take it. And, and I've even, I think, God, who was over there? And then, well, that was the most famous one for sure when Cam punched him. Who had it to, or I guess Max kind of did it on 16 where he just kind of punched it down the fairway.
Starting point is 01:00:12 But usually guys will just like lay it up to, you know, 80 yards, 90 yards, whatever. Scotty's like, no, I'll just take on the whole green. I'll just force it up there and two putt for my par in my little 67. Cool moment today on the ninth hole. It's kind of a sentence I never thought I would say for tonight, but I'm literally squatting right next to Caleb Williams and Rory's in the pine straw and
Starting point is 01:00:32 he's got to hit this. He's got this gap between these two trees to punch it over the water and into that second fairway, but he goes right of the far right tree and hooks it all around. And as he's getting set up for it, Caleb's like, what's he doing? What's he doing? And he like hits this ball and it takes off.
Starting point is 01:00:51 And he goes, oh shit. Like, there's just this huge banking right to left. This dude doesn't even know golf. And this huge banking right to left shot, like that stuck out in his mind of, you know, being a highly entertaining golf shot and that was that's brought to you by pine straw. Speaking of right of the far right trees Jack was on the broadcast today cool you guys probably missed that. Well actually that was gonna be my my second
Starting point is 01:01:18 moment of joy seeing Jack I heard I heard they wouldn't let him in the players club. Seeing Jack, I heard they wouldn't let him in the players club. You know, I want this tournament, right? Jason L. Schwartz said Gary Koch sounds great and adds a lot to the broadcast, hasn't lost a step. Well, NBC acknowledged this and bring him back into the rotation, even just for big events like the US Open. It sounds like not unless he wants to work for like, yeah, pay them. Yeah. Well, Gary, we'll tag you on Instagram. like, he's a pay them to work.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Yeah, well, Gary will tag you on Instagram. We're not gonna pay you any cash. I was over at the Marriott. I've always, always, full on Cokehead. You guys know this. Always been a Gary Coke guy. You don't like him? He said of course.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Oh, huge Cokehead. Oh, huge Cokehead. I was like, no. Always makes me. I was over at the Marriott yesterday. Carter always has good things to say. On Tuesday and Maltby was standing out front on the front drive smoking, ripping a heater. I was like, God, I miss Raj.
Starting point is 01:02:16 I know rules. I think for big events, if they're going to go for elevated crews, again, that's another way to make some stuff feel elevated. Right. I mean, I don't, I kind of like the youth movement that got going and some new voices, but for the big events, I think, you know, there's enough, they're, they're on the air enough to bring some of these voices back. So I like that. I texted every, I said, I said, the people are absolutely raving about your performance
Starting point is 01:02:39 today. He said, hell yeah. Love hearing that. They hide me, get me out there. He needs to make a play, get me out there, baby. He needs to make a play, get himself out there, insert himself into some of this drama. Guys, anybody that was a stinker today, you're just exceptionally disappointed in. I mean, Collin continues to just be kind of nothing. It should be the perfect golf course for him, right? We were curious about Zeltor. Yeah, Zeltor's for me. Zeltor's for me course for him, right? We were curious about our
Starting point is 01:03:10 As out towards really have it. It's out to me was he was in the tournament open for solid You're gonna address the Tom Kim WD Yeah, my god TK had to withdraw with an onus. He was plus five three dream dehydration Too thirsty TC hit me with that early. I was like, oh really I didn't know that he's like that fucking TC You want to talk about your boy Vic? That's a guy that that another stinker Yeah, I don't know and Valomaki Yeah, if all minds of the Finnish media, there's a lot of Finnish media in the Valomaki is such a unit so I never walking by on the other day. I was like, holy shit Can I ask you a question TC Nick Hardy also TC? also TC. When is he going to become the best player
Starting point is 01:03:48 in the world? I'm told this keep this is imminent. They doubled his last hole today. He doubled nine. We can't have that. He made a mess up by the green. Can I ask you a question? TC just not doing money. You may. We drafted six years out. We did that a couple of weeks ago in the pod, everybody got to pick, you know, we came up with a point system if you missed it, eight points for majors, two for signature events, blah, blah, blah. You had the first overall pick if you're drafting for production straight up over the next six years. You took Ludvig, or you, sorry, you took Victor Hovland, number one overall. Any regret on not taking Scottie Scheffler as we sit here just a couple weeks
Starting point is 01:04:25 later? No, no, none whatsoever. I think Scottie is much older than he's like one of those Cuban baseball players that we don't have his first certificate. Our pools? He might be much older than we know. Old legs. Yeah. I'm actually more worried about Nick Dunlap on my squad. It's not good. It's a very small sample size still. It's
Starting point is 01:04:48 only been a couple weeks, a couple months since he won his event. But there's something to be said for, you can't get everything right. And there's something to be said for getting these guys to the PGA Tour super, super fast and like really creating some on ramps and really getting, you know, getting turnover and making the product exciting. And also like these guys going through proper development and, you know, forging like the necessary skills over the requisite time that it takes. So I'm not saying by any stretch that that's what's happening in Nick Dunlap, but it's interesting to watch as that that happens a couple of times, I feel like.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Guys, I sense us getting towards the end of the show. We had a great, Sully gave a shout out to Adam Hadwin throwing in the ultimate chuck, and we got his wife's comments on that, obviously, flash them up on the screen. Nick Taylor absolutely like flushing it. I love watching him hit the golf ball. I think these Canadians are such crazy ball strikers, but I cannot get it out of my head, DJ.
Starting point is 01:05:47 After you said this, that he only wears those black Adidas shoes, does he only wear black pants too? Because it could be one of the worst fits possible. I can't get it out of my head. If Neil was here, he would say, blow by him. Yeah. Speaking of bad fits, I to give a reverse shout out
Starting point is 01:06:09 to Adidas for the hat that they keep putting Ludwig in. Yeah, look, he looks real good. Vicks got a small head. Like I you know, I have a small dome. Ludwig's got a small head and they keep putting him in. It's like a Brandon Wu special, but Brandon Wu's got a really big head. Ludwig, like the hat is I think I think he's back on like the third notch. It is so it's so big for his head. It's like, can we just get him in a proper hat? That's all the way down. That is the end of the show. Like that is totally the end of the show. If we're on the hat ring that Ludwig
Starting point is 01:06:45 is on, we are out of content for a Thursday. Who's gonna be the first golfer to wear one of those giant oversized hats the NFL guys like to wear? Tom Kim. Hey, Sally, did you give a comment on Big Tone's outfit today? Yeah. He had like 16 different shades of blue on he came but I told him I was like shades of blue I was like we can't wear Nike anymore you know come by clean up my closet take all the all the Nike stuff I have in there and that's what how he got dressed this morning so it were Nike anymore because you're not woke that's gonna do it for Thursday live show be back Friday Saturday and Sunday like I said TC and I will be out there with the wives tomorrow
Starting point is 01:07:27 If you see us say hello looking forward to another sunny day in Pontevedra pie man big Randy Cody. Thank you so much. Hi noon foot joy We thank you everyone for tuning in live everyone for listening on the pod We appreciate it got a brand new no laying up podcast channel. We will put the link in the description. I don't think it's up there just yet live as we're on there, but as soon as we're done here, it's gonna be in there. Subscribe to that, smash that subscribe button. Neil is demanding that we ask for that.
Starting point is 01:07:56 So thanks everyone for tuning in. And this one, thumbs up here too. Yeah, come on. Thumbs up, that really helps. I'm also receiving word that this Sawgrass commercial may be working too well. The Jags have signed Eric Armstead for my beloved Niners. He's coming to, you know.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Go ahead and give us that Cody. Thank you CC, thank you, good night. We will see you back here tomorrow, thank you.

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